Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of January
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, we are continuing with Lost Season two, episode six,
Speaker 1: Abandoned Oh Boy, in which coming in hot, we have
Speaker 1: a challenger for all the bad bad dads. It's an
Speaker 1: evil stepmother, oh.
Speaker 2: Man, cold as ice that.
Speaker 1: One, yea. I honestly have we learned nothing from the
Speaker 1: parent trap. Don't marry somebody who's gonna hate your daughter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, Cinderella, Come on many tales of woe this
Speaker 1: very situation, mister Rutherford, What the bleep?
Speaker 2: What were you thinking?
Speaker 1: Dude? Although really, obviously Channon will never know this, but
Speaker 1: is Jack's decision not to treat her father first that
Speaker 1: put her on the path that eventually led to her
Speaker 1: untimely death. Yes, Oh that was a rough ending.
Speaker 2: That was I wasn't quite expecting.
Speaker 1: That, you know, even though wildly through the jungle enough times,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna get shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, although Alma Lucia having just said she only
Speaker 2: had one bullet like she was rather indiscriminate with it.
Speaker 1: She was, she's just making friends wherever she goes, and
Speaker 1: it's very nice to meet y'all. I just killed your friend.
Speaker 1: But hey, we're from the other part of the plane.
Speaker 2: Right, bring us take us to your leader.
Speaker 1: It's it possible Sawyer will now not be the most
Speaker 1: hated person.
Speaker 2: If Sawyer survives, which we may make.
Speaker 1: Sawyer survives, Yes, yes, but there's competition now. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was unfortunate, sad. And you know that stepmother maybe not
Speaker 1: quite as bad as Luck's dad because she did not
Speaker 1: like remove any internal organs from Shannon, but she made
Speaker 1: Shannon sympathetic mm hmm, which is not an easy task.
Speaker 1: This show has been setting us up against that girl
Speaker 1: for the entire season and a bird and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, oh, man, so that's why she's
Speaker 1: the way she is. That's why she was scamming for money, right,
Speaker 1: that is, you can't throw her some these people are
Speaker 1: pretty rich. I think they could, I know, write her
Speaker 1: a check.
Speaker 2: And it was like she was going, that's what she
Speaker 2: was trying to do, like I'm moving across the country.
Speaker 2: You will never see me again. Just let me go.
Speaker 1: What a yeah, pleasant lady.
Speaker 2: UN's mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she has no more children weighing her down now,
Speaker 1: So yeah, for wherever she whatever dimension she is in.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, we don't know much.
Speaker 1: Yeah that so Locke turns out to be the kind
Speaker 1: of person who writes a baby book.
Speaker 2: A baby whisperer.
Speaker 1: They're missing Sawyer, Clara and Charlie damn right, but Lock
Speaker 1: comes in with this waddling works every time? Did you
Speaker 1: I had I have no tiny baby experience? Is that true?
Speaker 2: I mean yes, I think I do. Think they like it,
Speaker 2: and I think it works when they are like very
Speaker 2: very very little, when they're the size of Aaron who
Speaker 2: even though he's supposed to be a newborn, is like
Speaker 2: a six month old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said on lost video was played by a
Speaker 1: six month old.
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't be doing that anymore. Like they're
Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna fight it. So yeah, yeah, And it's
Speaker 2: just it's just a way to wrap them up like
Speaker 2: tight and cozy. So I don't think it would necessarily
Speaker 2: have the inc that it does when locked did it
Speaker 2: like well.
Speaker 1: Because it's though, you know, yes, and and you know,
Speaker 1: the other person who sort of fancies himself a parenting
Speaker 1: expert would.
Speaker 2: Be Charlie right with.
Speaker 1: Claire just needs to slap him upside the head. What
Speaker 1: the heck? Yeah, dude, come on, he's telling Locke, you know,
Speaker 1: she doesn't know much about having.
Speaker 2: She was going to give him up, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Sir, yeah, just who are you rude? And then of
Speaker 1: course Claire just lets slip that maybe Charlie is a
Speaker 1: religious fanatic because he has a statue of Mary. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Locke is like, let me just file that way.
Speaker 1: Where possibly could he have gotten that? I wonder? Oh man,
Speaker 1: he's busted and he doesn't even know nope, I mean
Speaker 1: holding that information over his head for quite sometime.
Speaker 2: Now, theoretically it could be empty. He'd be like.
Speaker 1: It was empty, it was because it all went it's Charlie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then he'd be suffering again from its black.
Speaker 1: So that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this like you said the activity was going
Speaker 2: to pick up, and I would say that it did.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, yes it did. And much time spent here
Speaker 1: on Sayid trying to louse Shannon, and I keep thinking,
Speaker 1: wasn't there was it, Nadia? Wasn't there all in your
Speaker 1: life that you did all this stuff for? She just
Speaker 1: like pretty blond in from of me. I'll go for it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay. I mean I could see people being thrown
Speaker 1: together in a trying time and everything. But he seemed
Speaker 1: a little eager now, eager and love was a big
Speaker 1: word to use in this context.
Speaker 2: I would say, yes, everything is as crazy as it is.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so, but he made her a little a
Speaker 1: little hovel special tent with no ulterior motives about what
Speaker 1: they might do whatsoever. No, No, it was her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So twice in this episode Will appears right yes
Speaker 2: to Shannon. Now do we think the second time that
Speaker 2: Sayid really did see him?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't get that impression, or he
Speaker 1: just being like.
Speaker 2: Yes, Shannon, whatever you say, you know, trying to yes.
Speaker 1: I think that's what he was doing, right. I think
Speaker 1: he you know, his booty call was interrupted because he
Speaker 1: was so stupid as to say, you're making it all up,
Speaker 1: shut up, right, and maybe he can. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm losing a little respect for Sayid here, But Okay,
Speaker 1: the problem is I could not see Walt. I could
Speaker 1: not see anything that was going on in the dark.
Speaker 1: With my eyes on a TV screen across the room,
Speaker 1: I had no idea what was happening. I had to
Speaker 1: try to remember. I mean, I knew he was there.
Speaker 1: I knew Shannon was seeing her right, And honestly, how
Speaker 1: can anybody doubt that there's supernatural weirdness going on. Everybody
Speaker 1: has had some exposure supernatural weirdness on this island at
Speaker 1: that's this point, haven't they. Why Sayid would be so
Speaker 1: oh it's all in your head, honey, Yeah, there are
Speaker 1: people whispering out there.
Speaker 2: You were you hear that for sure?
Speaker 1: You didn't hear that side, No, you were just making
Speaker 1: it up. It's okay. Everybody is like should be accepting
Speaker 1: at this point that if somebody says I saw Walt,
Speaker 1: that Walt was indeed seen, and if they don't, well,
Speaker 1: then you know they deserve what's coming to him. But wow,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, yeah, the first person I can
Speaker 1: see saying no, I mean Jack has seen his dead dad.
Speaker 1: I guess he hasn't shared that information too. Yeah, lots
Speaker 1: of people have seen a lot of stuff, So I
Speaker 1: would think that the response to be instead of no, Shannon,
Speaker 1: it's all in your head, is well, what did he say?
Speaker 1: And what do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Tell me about it?
Speaker 1: What? Yeah? What experience have you had that you were
Speaker 1: applying to this? I don't know. Yeah, it's just it
Speaker 1: seems like we are well past the that's not real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also Walt, try somebody else like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was my other thought, is that Shannon, he's
Speaker 1: going to Shannon?
Speaker 2: Well, and even if if Shannon was his choice the
Speaker 2: first time, like, Okay, that didn't really work, so don't
Speaker 2: keep trying again.
Speaker 1: And it's right, Shannon, like.
Speaker 2: There's forty other people here that you.
Speaker 1: Who who would anybody believe?
Speaker 2: Though? I know?
Speaker 1: But just like any rose, he could appear to rows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that little boy. What a sweet child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's just I guess he's a
Speaker 1: test some attachment to Shannon, because Shannon has the dogs.
Speaker 1: Who was on the leash this time?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: We found out that amongst the uh, the new arrivals,
Speaker 1: the tail crew is us. Uh was she said, clinical
Speaker 1: clinical psychology.
Speaker 2: Well, honey, we need you. You're gonna be busy, get ready.
Speaker 1: Do you have any experience with daddy issues?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, yep, yep, yep, almost more than a surgeon. They need.
Speaker 1: She could set up one of those little lucy five
Speaker 1: cent booths on money. But bring me food, bring me
Speaker 1: a banana, or to some fish. Yes, yeah, yeah from
Speaker 1: the hatch. Yeah that's true. Well, no, not anymore because
Speaker 1: gives gave it all the way.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Never mind, Maybe find a candy bar someplace.
Speaker 2: Yes, some people may have squirreled theirs away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who will be useful? And uh we just uh
Speaker 1: we just got a little tiny bit of rose, just
Speaker 1: just to keep us reminded. Yes, she says, can't be
Speaker 1: easy losing the one person you love on the island.
Speaker 1: He's coming as we speak, unless he gets disappeared by
Speaker 1: the others like Cindy. She was right here right, So
Speaker 1: these are these are some people in need of uh
Speaker 1: psychological psychological help themselves. I wonder if if Libby has
Speaker 1: already been at work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well and doesn't see she's not exactly.
Speaker 1: What he freaked out. But soon they show Well, I
Speaker 1: guess they have come together now, although in an unfortunate way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but now we know that they're almost almost there,
Speaker 2: almost there.
Speaker 1: Sawyer is being dressed. They say they need a stretcher
Speaker 1: for Sawyer, and Michael says to mister Eco, can you
Speaker 1: help me? And then like in the next scene, there's
Speaker 1: it's extremely elaborate the stretcher. Basically since this basket that
Speaker 1: they made for him, I needed a little captain that
Speaker 1: said one weekly.
Speaker 2: Well, and they enlisted Bernard to go get some big sticks.
Speaker 1: M I just have that whole unless they like found
Speaker 1: a piece of netting in the jungle, I don't know
Speaker 1: how that rope thing in the middle, how they like together.
Speaker 2: Wove that all together.
Speaker 1: Some fiber art magic ipplies on the.
Speaker 2: Other, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, that was that was the way that
Speaker 1: we bring together the two island contingents, at least we
Speaker 1: assume there's only two island contingents. Wow, the bazillion.
Speaker 2: Two from the plane from the two flight what was it?
Speaker 2: Eight fifteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And next Tuesday we will continue with season two,
Speaker 1: episode seven of Lost the Other forty eight Days. What
Speaker 1: do you think that's going to be about?
Speaker 2: Well, I confess I know that it is about these
Speaker 2: tail section survivors and what happened to them in the
Speaker 2: same amount of time that we have been hanging out
Speaker 2: with everybody else. Yes, sounds like the body count is higher.
Speaker 1: It does sound that way, although maybe it's not exactly.
Speaker 2: They're not necessarily dead.
Speaker 1: Right that other because Claire was othered for a while
Speaker 1: and then she uh was got out. So we've lost
Speaker 1: our BodyCount. Well, now our body count of actual UH
Speaker 1: cast members we know is two at this.
Speaker 2: Point, right, Boone and Shannon?
Speaker 1: Did anybody else? I think the other ones have been
Speaker 1: like extras.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or the air Marshal that was a while ago,
Speaker 2: Marshal yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But of our our core cast, yeah, so they're doing
Speaker 1: a little better. What from the sound of it, right,
Speaker 1: we shall see UH and we will see you back
Speaker 1: here tomorrow to discuss a Man on the inside. Thank
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