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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, we are continuing with Lost Season two, episode six,

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<v Speaker 1>Abandoned Oh Boy, in which coming in hot, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a challenger for all the bad bad dads. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>evil stepmother, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, cold as ice that.

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<v Speaker 1>One, yea. I honestly have we learned nothing from the

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<v Speaker 1>parent trap. Don't marry somebody who's gonna hate your daughter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, Cinderella, Come on many tales of woe this

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<v Speaker 1>very situation, mister Rutherford, What the bleep?

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<v Speaker 2>What were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude? Although really, obviously Channon will never know this, but

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<v Speaker 1>is Jack's decision not to treat her father first that

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<v Speaker 1>put her on the path that eventually led to her

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<v Speaker 1>untimely death. Yes, Oh that was a rough ending.

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<v Speaker 2>That was I wasn't quite expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>That, you know, even though wildly through the jungle enough times,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna get shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, although Alma Lucia having just said she only

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<v Speaker 2>had one bullet like she was rather indiscriminate with it.

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<v Speaker 1>She was, she's just making friends wherever she goes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very nice to meet y'all. I just killed your friend.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, we're from the other part of the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, bring us take us to your leader.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it possible Sawyer will now not be the most

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<v Speaker 1>hated person.

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<v Speaker 2>If Sawyer survives, which we may make.

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<v Speaker 1>Sawyer survives, Yes, yes, but there's competition now. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was unfortunate, sad. And you know that stepmother maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>quite as bad as Luck's dad because she did not

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<v Speaker 1>like remove any internal organs from Shannon, but she made

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon sympathetic mm hmm, which is not an easy task.

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<v Speaker 1>This show has been setting us up against that girl

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<v Speaker 1>for the entire season and a bird and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, it's like, oh, man, so that's why she's

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<v Speaker 1>the way she is. That's why she was scamming for money, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, you can't throw her some these people are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty rich. I think they could, I know, write her

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<v Speaker 1>a check.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like she was going, that's what she

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to do, like I'm moving across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>You will never see me again. Just let me go.

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<v Speaker 1>What a yeah, pleasant lady.

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<v Speaker 2>UN's mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well she has no more children weighing her down now,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, for wherever she whatever dimension she is in.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, we don't know much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that so Locke turns out to be the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person who writes a baby book.

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<v Speaker 2>A baby whisperer.

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<v Speaker 1>They're missing Sawyer, Clara and Charlie damn right, but Lock

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<v Speaker 1>comes in with this waddling works every time? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>I had I have no tiny baby experience? Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yes, I think I do. Think they like it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it works when they are like very

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<v Speaker 2>very very little, when they're the size of Aaron who

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<v Speaker 2>even though he's supposed to be a newborn, is like

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<v Speaker 2>a six month old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he said on lost video was played by a

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<v Speaker 1>six month old.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't. You can't be doing that anymore. Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna they're gonna fight it. So yeah, yeah, And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just a way to wrap them up like

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<v Speaker 2>tight and cozy. So I don't think it would necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>have the inc that it does when locked did it

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<v Speaker 2>like well.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's though, you know, yes, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the other person who sort of fancies himself a parenting

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<v Speaker 2>Be Charlie right with.

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<v Speaker 1>Claire just needs to slap him upside the head. What

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<v Speaker 1>the heck? Yeah, dude, come on, he's telling Locke, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know much about having.

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<v Speaker 2>She was going to give him up, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, yeah, just who are you rude? And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course Claire just lets slip that maybe Charlie is a

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<v Speaker 1>religious fanatic because he has a statue of Mary. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Locke is like, let me just file that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Where possibly could he have gotten that? I wonder? Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>he's busted and he doesn't even know nope, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>holding that information over his head for quite sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, theoretically it could be empty. He'd be like.

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<v Speaker 1>It was empty, it was because it all went it's Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but then he'd be suffering again from its black.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, this like you said the activity was going

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up, and I would say that it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, indeed, yes it did. And much time spent here

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<v Speaker 1>on Sayid trying to louse Shannon, and I keep thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there was it, Nadia? Wasn't there all in your

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<v Speaker 1>life that you did all this stuff for? She just

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<v Speaker 1>like pretty blond in from of me. I'll go for it. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay. I mean I could see people being thrown

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<v Speaker 1>together in a trying time and everything. But he seemed

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<v Speaker 1>a little eager now, eager and love was a big

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<v Speaker 1>word to use in this context.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, yes, everything is as crazy as it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, so, but he made her a little a

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<v Speaker 1>little hovel special tent with no ulterior motives about what

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<v Speaker 1>they might do whatsoever. No, No, it was her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So twice in this episode Will appears right yes

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<v Speaker 2>to Shannon. Now do we think the second time that

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<v Speaker 2>Sayid really did see him?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I didn't get that impression, or he

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<v Speaker 1>just being like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Shannon, whatever you say, you know, trying to yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what he was doing, right. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, his booty call was interrupted because he

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<v Speaker 1>was so stupid as to say, you're making it all up,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up, right, and maybe he can. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm losing a little respect for Sayid here, But Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is I could not see Walt. I could

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<v Speaker 1>not see anything that was going on in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>With my eyes on a TV screen across the room,

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what was happening. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Shannon was seeing her right, And honestly, how

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<v Speaker 1>can anybody doubt that there's supernatural weirdness going on. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has had some exposure supernatural weirdness on this island at

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<v Speaker 1>that's this point, haven't they. Why Sayid would be so

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<v Speaker 1>oh it's all in your head, honey, Yeah, there are

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<v Speaker 1>people whispering out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You were you hear that for sure?

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't hear that side, No, you were just making

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<v Speaker 1>it up. It's okay. Everybody is like should be accepting

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<v Speaker 1>at this point that if somebody says I saw Walt,

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<v Speaker 1>that Walt was indeed seen, and if they don't, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know they deserve what's coming to him. But wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, yeah, the first person I can

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<v Speaker 1>see saying no, I mean Jack has seen his dead dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he hasn't shared that information too. Yeah, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people have seen a lot of stuff, So I

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<v Speaker 1>would think that the response to be instead of no, Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all in your head, is well, what did he say?

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Tell me about it?

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<v Speaker 1>What? Yeah? What experience have you had that you were

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<v Speaker 1>applying to this? I don't know. Yeah, it's just it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like we are well past the that's not real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also Walt, try somebody else like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was my other thought, is that Shannon, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to Shannon?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and even if if Shannon was his choice the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, like, Okay, that didn't really work, so don't

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<v Speaker 2>keep trying again.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's right, Shannon, like.

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<v Speaker 2>There's forty other people here that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Who who would anybody believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Though? I know?

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<v Speaker 1>But just like any rose, he could appear to rows.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw that little boy. What a sweet child.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. It's just I guess he's a

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<v Speaker 1>test some attachment to Shannon, because Shannon has the dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was on the leash this time?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>We found out that amongst the uh, the new arrivals,

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<v Speaker 1>the tail crew is us. Uh was she said, clinical

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<v Speaker 1>clinical psychology.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, honey, we need you. You're gonna be busy, get ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any experience with daddy issues?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, yep, yep, yep, almost more than a surgeon. They need.

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<v Speaker 1>She could set up one of those little lucy five

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<v Speaker 1>cent booths on money. But bring me food, bring me

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<v Speaker 1>a banana, or to some fish. Yes, yeah, yeah from

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<v Speaker 1>the hatch. Yeah that's true. Well, no, not anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>gives gave it all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind, Maybe find a candy bar someplace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, some people may have squirreled theirs away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who will be useful? And uh we just uh

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<v Speaker 1>we just got a little tiny bit of rose, just

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<v Speaker 1>just to keep us reminded. Yes, she says, can't be

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<v Speaker 1>easy losing the one person you love on the island.

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<v Speaker 1>He's coming as we speak, unless he gets disappeared by

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<v Speaker 1>the others like Cindy. She was right here right, So

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<v Speaker 1>these are these are some people in need of uh

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<v Speaker 1>psychological psychological help themselves. I wonder if if Libby has

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<v Speaker 1>already been at work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well and doesn't see she's not exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>What he freaked out. But soon they show Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they have come together now, although in an unfortunate way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but now we know that they're almost almost there,

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<v Speaker 2>almost there.

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<v Speaker 1>Sawyer is being dressed. They say they need a stretcher

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<v Speaker 1>for Sawyer, and Michael says to mister Eco, can you

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<v Speaker 1>help me? And then like in the next scene, there's

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<v Speaker 1>it's extremely elaborate the stretcher. Basically since this basket that

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<v Speaker 1>they made for him, I needed a little captain that

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<v Speaker 1>said one weekly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and they enlisted Bernard to go get some big sticks.

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<v Speaker 1>M I just have that whole unless they like found

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of netting in the jungle, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how that rope thing in the middle, how they like together.

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<v Speaker 2>Wove that all together.

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<v Speaker 1>Some fiber art magic ipplies on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Yeah, that was that was the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we bring together the two island contingents, at least we

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<v Speaker 1>assume there's only two island contingents. Wow, the bazillion.

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<v Speaker 2>Two from the plane from the two flight what was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Eight fifteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And next Tuesday we will continue with season two,

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<v Speaker 1>episode seven of Lost the Other forty eight Days. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that's going to be about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I confess I know that it is about these

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<v Speaker 2>tail section survivors and what happened to them in the

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<v Speaker 2>same amount of time that we have been hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody else. Yes, sounds like the body count is higher.

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<v Speaker 1>It does sound that way, although maybe it's not exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not necessarily dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that other because Claire was othered for a while

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<v Speaker 1>and then she uh was got out. So we've lost

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<v Speaker 1>our BodyCount. Well, now our body count of actual UH

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<v Speaker 1>cast members we know is two at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, right, Boone and Shannon?

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<v Speaker 1>Did anybody else? I think the other ones have been

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or the air Marshal that was a while ago,

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<v Speaker 2>Marshal yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But of our our core cast, yeah, so they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a little better. What from the sound of it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we shall see UH and we will see you back

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