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Speaker 3: Later with Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2: Let's go Beyond the box Score with Jackie Ray, Jackie
Speaker 2: Ray good even, let's jump right into this. I reached
Speaker 2: out to you over the weekend because I saw a
Speaker 2: rumor which popped up on social media, and it was
Speaker 2: that Dawn Staley, who is presently the coach of the
Speaker 2: three time in Citua champion South Carolina Gamecocks women and
Speaker 2: also a member of the Nasmith Basketball Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: also a member of the FOEBA Basketball Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: three time Olympic gold medalist player, also Olympic gold medalist,
Speaker 2: coach of the twenty twenty Olympics.
Speaker 3: Down Staley, just for contest?
Speaker 5: Come on now.
Speaker 2: She has been contacted by the New York Knicks. I
Speaker 2: can't say whether she's the front Raider runner, but it
Speaker 2: has been confirmed that there is an actual conversation and
Speaker 2: if it were to proceed, she could be and would
Speaker 2: be the first female head coach of an NBA team.
Speaker 2: What did you think about it when we first started
Speaker 2: seeing this information.
Speaker 4: When I first started seeing it, I definitely believed it
Speaker 4: was true. Just because of her caliber, who she is,
Speaker 4: the way that she can motivate both men and women.
Speaker 4: We've seen that her resume in that area is flawless.
Speaker 4: But I automatically said it's a no go for her.
Speaker 4: And the reason why I said that is because she
Speaker 4: really has a passion for shaping young women for the
Speaker 4: next level of their career and life. So it's not
Speaker 4: just shaping them for the WNBA.
Speaker 5: That's great.
Speaker 4: Obviously, she's shaping champions. I mean every time somebody wins
Speaker 4: a champion in the WNBA, don Staley's right there, you know,
Speaker 4: look at my protege, so I think, but it's more
Speaker 4: than that for her. For her, it really is preparing
Speaker 4: young women for the next level, even if that doesn't
Speaker 4: mean basketball, and.
Speaker 5: That's a true passion for her. It warms her heart.
Speaker 4: You can see it on her face every time she
Speaker 4: talks about one of the students that came through her program.
Speaker 5: So I just don't know.
Speaker 4: Now, Look, Money talks to Boloney walks though, right, I
Speaker 4: don't know what we're talking about financially.
Speaker 2: Let me give you some context. Give it her resume,
Speaker 2: which I read off intentionally. JJ Reddick, who is in
Speaker 2: the number two market rookie coach no experience Lakers gets
Speaker 2: eight million a year. Presently, Don Staley gets four million
Speaker 2: a year as coach of the game Cocks.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if.
Speaker 5: It's to make more than JJ she should.
Speaker 3: But you know, don't want to get ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 2: But she would stand and make at least probably double
Speaker 2: what she's making right now. And maybe after a certain point,
Speaker 2: could she conceivably have a conversation with herself and say,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: What I've done all I can do on this level.
Speaker 2: We talk about it with men all the time, who
Speaker 2: like a coach Skrzyzewski or someone who's done so much
Speaker 2: in college ball, there may be that pull to go
Speaker 2: to the next level.
Speaker 4: That's a little different though, because when you're talking about
Speaker 4: NC double A men's sports, where there it's basketball or football.
Speaker 4: NC DOUBLEA men's sports have long stay alumni fan base,
Speaker 4: so that is solidified. So if you succeed there, you
Speaker 4: definitely should be able to succeed at the next level.
Speaker 4: Right now, NCAA women's game is feeding the WNBA, so
Speaker 4: she still has work to do to help build the WNBA.
Speaker 4: If she wants to look at it now, look at
Speaker 4: it like that. But on the flip side, she might say,
Speaker 4: you know, there has to be a first at some point.
Speaker 4: It is it is not unusual for men to coach
Speaker 4: in the WNBA, which is right, which is very very
Speaker 4: odd to me that we have more men than women
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 5: But it's fine.
Speaker 4: But at some point somebody has to be the one
Speaker 4: that cracks that glass ceiling.
Speaker 5: So why not be the best to ever do it?
Speaker 2: And we know that there have been female coaches in
Speaker 2: the NBA, like Becky Hammond, right, but never a head coach.
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be Becky Hammon too,
Speaker 2: but she decided to go to the WNBA after coaching
Speaker 2: as an assistant under Great Popovich.
Speaker 5: Right, but respectfully, and I love Becky.
Speaker 4: Her contract is a problem because for her to make
Speaker 4: exponentially more than every single play, you know, the highest
Speaker 4: salary for players, what two hundred fifty thousand dollars if
Speaker 4: you're lucky, if you're lucky, and you know, for her
Speaker 4: to be making millions and the players and the w
Speaker 4: still don't have revenue sharing and things of that nature.
Speaker 4: There's not extra roster spots, so they're not having to
Speaker 4: kill themselves playing this game. So while I appreciate it,
Speaker 4: Becky saying no, I want to play. I want to
Speaker 4: coach in the W Like, don't play us, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like you're still getting If you really
Speaker 4: wanted to impact the league in that way, it would
Speaker 4: have been a more yes, I'm gonna do this, but
Speaker 4: you know, you would have to address that elephant in
Speaker 4: the room. So for don Staley, if she is going
Speaker 4: to go somewhere, I do think she'll go to the
Speaker 4: NBA because I think with her understanding and her players
Speaker 4: talk to her, they confide in her.
Speaker 5: She's like a godmom to a lot of them.
Speaker 4: I don't think she would take a million dollar whatever salary,
Speaker 4: even if it was. She makes four million right now,
Speaker 4: so if she made five or six million in the
Speaker 4: W I don't think she would take it because I
Speaker 4: think it would be a conviction for her. So if
Speaker 4: she is going to leave, it would be to the NBA.
Speaker 2: And I'm also hearing that the Knicks are speaking to
Speaker 2: They've had two interviews from what I understand and read
Speaker 2: with former Lakers coach Mike Brown former Cavaliers Mike Brown,
Speaker 2: I would not if I I don't because I don't
Speaker 2: think he's a talking about Don Staley, I don't think
Speaker 2: he's a leader of men. I don't know if people
Speaker 2: I agree with that for him. I think they would
Speaker 2: play for Don Steely. I really do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that because the way that she's
Speaker 4: able to speak, she has this uncanny ability, like I've
Speaker 4: seen her talk to to a multitude of different players.
Speaker 4: She has an uncanny ability to just meet you where
Speaker 4: you are, wherever, whatever that might be. Where you are
Speaker 4: is going to be different than where I am. And
Speaker 4: she's really good at that. And I think that the
Speaker 4: question that's always going to come up when you're talking
Speaker 4: about a woman coaching the men's game is can they
Speaker 4: respect her?
Speaker 3: That's why I read off that resume.
Speaker 5: Exactly, if you don't respect her, then.
Speaker 4: You don't respect the game, because she has set her
Speaker 4: name in stone in this game.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: anybody I'm being serious who has that resime right, Feeble
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, Nasmith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, three
Speaker 2: gold medals as a player, gold medal as a coach.
Speaker 4: I don't know, right, And then you have to talk
Speaker 4: about the intangibles. One of the things that comes in
Speaker 4: women's sports a lot more often than comes in men's sports.
Speaker 4: Is we have the social challenges with the set. In
Speaker 4: social media, we battle the transgender conversation, and she has
Speaker 4: handled all of those with grace and style. So if
Speaker 4: they come up in the NBA, she can definitely lead
Speaker 4: them in a way that they wouldn't be led by
Speaker 4: anyone else. And she fits in New York specific man,
Speaker 4: listen New York with love. She wouldn't pay nary a bill. Ever,
Speaker 4: she'd be walking down the street. Can you get in
Speaker 4: my car?
Speaker 2: Let me put it in another way for those who
Speaker 2: don't know Don Staley, she's already a living legend. She
Speaker 2: is and have a living legend in the number one
Speaker 2: media market in a legendary city with a legendary franchise.
Speaker 2: It fits in so many ways. But to your point,
Speaker 2: I don't know she wants that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if she wants.
Speaker 4: And when you talk about the Knicks specifically, because you
Speaker 4: know it was this is supposed to be the next
Speaker 4: year supposed to be and it wasn't, and then if
Speaker 4: she comes in do they blame her? Well, the bar
Speaker 4: is going to be set high regardless, right right, I
Speaker 4: mean if she if she makes the move. I don't
Speaker 4: think she'll make it, But if she makes the move, listen,
Speaker 4: I'm going to New York for the first game.
Speaker 3: It would be one of the biggest things in the
Speaker 3: history of sports.
Speaker 5: I would be there front row.
Speaker 2: When we come back. We have to talk about something
Speaker 2: which should surprise nobody. There's another NBA player. Let me
Speaker 2: just say, a professional sports figure who might be in
Speaker 2: trouble for gambling.
Speaker 5: Oh shocker.
Speaker 3: Who could have seen that? Who could have predicted that?
Speaker 3: Jackie Raise, other than I know that's coming up next.
Speaker 3: If I am six forty life everywhere in my Heart radio.
Speaker 1: App, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand
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Speaker 2: Six forty Later with mo Kelly. As we continue to
Speaker 2: go beyond the box Score with Jackie Ray and Jackie Ray.
Speaker 2: I can't speak for other talk shows, but I know
Speaker 2: that this particular talk show was on the story of
Speaker 2: sports and gambling and the inevitability of it long before
Speaker 2: probably anybody in the country. Yep, And we said that.
Speaker 2: We started obviously with the Otani controversy and his interpreter.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to impugne anyone's integrity. Wait wait, but
Speaker 2: we said that this is one of many across sports,
Speaker 2: because it's everywhere now and we've been proven right along
Speaker 2: the way. Now we have the Detroit Pistons Malik Beasley
Speaker 2: reportedly being investigated by the FEDS allegations of gambling. A
Speaker 2: prominent US sports book noticed unusual betting activity on prop
Speaker 2: bets for Beesley. If you don't know, prop bet is
Speaker 2: like those weird promotional best off. We bet that Mark
Speaker 2: Beasley will Malik Bisley will get six rebounds this game,
Speaker 2: or who will play twenty five minutes so you get
Speaker 2: three points?
Speaker 4: As in PubL it's like we'll have a streaker right
Speaker 4: at halftime.
Speaker 3: That's a prop bet.
Speaker 2: And they noticed unusual betting on prop bets beginning in
Speaker 2: January of last year, twenty twenty four. And this is
Speaker 2: according to ESPN gambling reporter David Perdue. Beasley was playing
Speaker 2: his loan season with the Bucks at that point. He
Speaker 2: started seventy seven games, scoring eleven point three points and
Speaker 2: shooting forty one percent on threes. Here's the thing. If
Speaker 2: they noticed it back in January of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: it is likely to me that there was a pattern
Speaker 2: that they noticed beyond January twenty twenty four in building
Speaker 2: this case. Now, he hasn't been charged with anything, but
Speaker 2: he is known to be under investigation, and I think, yes,
Speaker 2: this is what his lawyer said.
Speaker 3: Quote, an investigation is not a charge.
Speaker 2: Malik is afforded the same right of the presumption of
Speaker 2: it since as anyone else under the US Constitution. As
Speaker 2: of now, he has not been charged with anything close quote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for him to know.
Speaker 2: That he is under investigation usually and I just say
Speaker 2: this as someone who sat on a federal grand jury,
Speaker 2: so I know how the investigations go. As far as
Speaker 2: there's investigative and there's accusatory. Investigative ones go over the
Speaker 2: portion of weeks or months. Accusatory is just a one
Speaker 2: day thing when you have these investigative grand juries. And
Speaker 2: I have to believe it's at a grand jury point
Speaker 2: at this point, there present any evidence to the grand
Speaker 2: jury what they know?
Speaker 5: That says to me they got something.
Speaker 2: They already have him and they just haven't actually gone
Speaker 2: for the true bill the indictment.
Speaker 3: What would you what would you ascertain from this investigation
Speaker 3: so far?
Speaker 4: So I'm right there with you. You don't even mention this,
Speaker 4: This isn't even a talking point. If you don't, you
Speaker 4: haven't dited all the eye and cross all the tea's.
Speaker 4: They have what they need to have. If they wanted
Speaker 4: to drop an indictment today, they could could be other
Speaker 4: people involved. But you know, in my heart of hearts,
Speaker 4: and I've said this about this topic from day one,
Speaker 4: the relationship between professional sports and gambling is way too tight.
Speaker 4: It just you know, and trastics and yeah, like I'll
Speaker 4: go to what's the last game. Yeah, I've been to
Speaker 4: I want to say, an NBA game and seen FanDuel
Speaker 4: on the court or Draft Kings, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And so there's a relationship there so much so that
Speaker 4: I really just don't care because I think it's so
Speaker 4: hypocritical for you to say, we're gonna partner with we
Speaker 4: are you can't player, but us big establishment, we're gonna
Speaker 4: partner with this gambling thing over here. Not so much
Speaker 4: so that we're going to put their paraphernalia on our
Speaker 4: floor and we're gonna tell our fans you should gamble
Speaker 4: but not you player.
Speaker 2: Well, one step further, it also be able to use
Speaker 2: the names and likes the players.
Speaker 4: Yes, and I've seen that in the commercial. So for me,
Speaker 4: it's it's very very hypocritical because you can't how do
Speaker 4: you draw that line? You literally you're drawing a line
Speaker 4: in quicksand at this point, because you're saying do as
Speaker 4: I say, not do as I do. That doesn't work
Speaker 4: on kids. It's definitely not going to work on grown men.
Speaker 2: And I understand the distinction being made worth like the
Speaker 2: league making money is one thing. The players making money
Speaker 2: and then impugning the integrity of the game is something else.
Speaker 3: I get.
Speaker 2: And the argument is, well, you really can't have it
Speaker 2: both ways. If you don't want gambling in your sport,
Speaker 2: then you have to make sure it's not in your.
Speaker 4: Sport one percent, which means you sever this relationship because
Speaker 4: the only way that you can really come down on
Speaker 4: a player for gambling is if you don't take part
Speaker 4: in it. You can't say do as I say. Again,
Speaker 4: because it's very hypocritical. So now when you're telling and
Speaker 4: now there's endorsement deals, you know, with certain people, so
Speaker 4: you're literally telling the players, hey, we're bringing this this
Speaker 4: entity in so we can make money. You can make money.
Speaker 4: Let's build a partnership. I've been in partnerships that I've
Speaker 4: also supported that other partner, and that might mean purchasing
Speaker 4: something that they have distributed.
Speaker 5: That's just how it goes.
Speaker 2: It might be I don't know how the collective bargaining
Speaker 2: agreement reads. It may be something where you have, like
Speaker 2: you have a set aside or a carve out for
Speaker 2: merchandise or apparel which is sold. They get a piece
Speaker 2: of that, right, maybe they get a piece of the
Speaker 2: gambling as well. But it's too easy for a middle
Speaker 2: tier player to make money off these prop bets, because
Speaker 2: we've heard about this before. Where they don't have to
Speaker 2: throw a game or do something which is above the radar,
Speaker 2: but they can do something where, okay, the over underar
Speaker 2: is three points for me tonight, so let me just
Speaker 2: make sure I get hurt or I have to sit
Speaker 2: out the second half.
Speaker 4: Right, They could do something like that, or they could
Speaker 4: just make it. If it's if this is a person
Speaker 4: who doesn't typically shoot threes, let me just shoot if
Speaker 4: the percentages, so and so will shoot and make blah
Speaker 4: blah blah threes, whether I make it or not, nobody
Speaker 4: really afects me to shoot threes if I'm not a
Speaker 4: good three point shooter. So if I suddenly start shooting
Speaker 4: threes and I catch on fire when I've made this bet,
Speaker 4: that's a win win. That's one of those things where
Speaker 4: you can kind of get away with People are gonna
Speaker 4: be like, oh my gosh, Yeah, it's such an amazing night. No,
Speaker 4: they were gambling, but it's just too thin of a line.
Speaker 3: JB.
Speaker 2: Martinez in the chat says, the players already make millions,
Speaker 2: way more than the average fan will ever make. Might
Speaker 2: as well let the fans have some fun gambling.
Speaker 3: How would you respond?
Speaker 4: I think money creps absolutely, and I think once you
Speaker 4: get a taste of money and you can figure out
Speaker 4: a way to get money easily. To say that, oh,
Speaker 4: they shouldn't do that because they make so much money.
Speaker 4: I have never met a person who makes so much
Speaker 4: money and didn't want more.
Speaker 3: Well, there are two things. I think they are two
Speaker 3: parts of this.
Speaker 2: He's saying that the average fan will won't make the
Speaker 2: type of NBA money that the players make, so let
Speaker 2: the fans have some fun. I say, when when you
Speaker 2: introduce gambling into the sport, and there are too many
Speaker 2: ways that players can excuse me, fans can reach players
Speaker 2: can reach time about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, who can reach members?
Speaker 2: Of the organization and get inside information or somehow create
Speaker 2: a cooperative agreement. All I'm saying is this is another
Speaker 2: example of the story can only in one way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: with the scandal, which is going to impact the integrity
Speaker 2: or the perception of the sport forever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to your point, you know, never think that
Speaker 4: a player is untouchable. I cover the WNBA next season.
Speaker 4: I'm going to cover the Clippers as well. If I
Speaker 4: have rapport with a player and you say, hey, Jackie,
Speaker 4: do you think you can you know, nudge nudge, hint, hint,
Speaker 4: winky winky.
Speaker 5: Everyone's accessible. This is, you know, just a thing or not.
Speaker 2: Was a beat writer for the Clippers. You may just
Speaker 2: be in the locker room know some insider information. It's oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, yeah he's not playing tonight.
Speaker 4: Or they might see Sometimes they don't tell you. They
Speaker 4: might limit a player's minutes, and they don't tell you
Speaker 4: that because they don't want the They're like, this is
Speaker 4: an injury that we don't really know what it is.
Speaker 5: We might have to limit there.
Speaker 2: But I've learned some things just by being in the
Speaker 2: locker room before and after that game.
Speaker 4: They don't let us in the locker room anymore. They
Speaker 4: don't know, no, at least not in the W. We
Speaker 4: used to go in the locker room in the W
Speaker 4: they don't ever since COVID, they don't let us in
Speaker 4: the locker room anymore.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if it's like that in the NBA,
Speaker 5: but they don't.
Speaker 2: It probably is because they don't want to be responsible
Speaker 2: for you getting.
Speaker 4: Somewhere right right, So, because that's that was the best
Speaker 4: ear hustling place on the planet.
Speaker 2: You hear some stuff that, you see some stuff. This
Speaker 2: is very valuable in this daid age. But I think
Speaker 2: it's just a matter of time until we have another
Speaker 2: major gambling controversy in a major sport.
Speaker 4: But I think, to say face the best way to
Speaker 4: really be able to bring the hammer down morally on
Speaker 4: a player, you have to sever these ties with the
Speaker 4: gambling institutions.
Speaker 5: Will what happens that.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's not gonna happen. It's much
Speaker 2: money involved now, but it should it's later. With mo
Speaker 2: Kelly always good to see you, great to see you too, well.
Speaker 2: I see you Friday Chateau la moment.
Speaker 4: I shall be that I will not be making any
Speaker 4: dishes though okay, well, will you be I will bring Okay,
Speaker 4: sounds good.
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Speaker 2: Jaguary could run out the studio, I said, Jackie, Jackie,
Speaker 2: do not leave. Do not leave, because we need your
Speaker 2: expertise on this Tender dating app, very popular dating app.
Speaker 3: I don't know person.
Speaker 2: I've never been on Tender and that's also something I
Speaker 2: need Jackuarray to help me with. Tender is testing a
Speaker 2: height filter. It's a new feature that allows people who
Speaker 2: pay for the app to filter potential matches based on
Speaker 2: height and short Men around the world are up in
Speaker 2: arms about this controversial new feature. Literally, okay, up, okay,
Speaker 2: jack you Ray, how tall are you?
Speaker 5: Five eleven? I would pay the money for this. I
Speaker 5: would pay.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not five eleven. Mark are you five eleven?
Speaker 2: I'm six even?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Stephen are you five eleven?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I am Okay, good answer. I don't know is that
Speaker 2: are you really you seem taller than five eleven? No?
Speaker 5: I think you are just not five eleven.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we see problem. We're gonna take this to
Speaker 2: the hallway. Were gonna tell you the best. We're taking
Speaker 2: it the hallway and then we can all line each
Speaker 2: other up. Okay, okay, look, I'm not five eleven. Let
Speaker 2: me just say that. And I'm getting shorter by the
Speaker 2: day because you get older, your spine gets compacted.
Speaker 3: You get older. You ever see like your grandparents and
Speaker 3: they're like three foot two. I'm on my way down.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to be taller in the morning, so measure
Speaker 3: your say that.
Speaker 1: A lot of things supposed to happen, and I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze out nextra half an inch or so.
Speaker 3: Go for the morning.
Speaker 5: There's a lot you can do it there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just yeah, I'm just gonna keep on moving forward.
Speaker 2: But Jackie, right, speaking of tender you use you've used
Speaker 2: tender before, right, yes, I have one time? How do
Speaker 2: you go about matching with someone? What is something that
Speaker 2: you're looking for.
Speaker 4: So specifically on tender or just dating apps in general,
Speaker 4: because I've only used tender like once, Okay, specifically in general,
Speaker 4: I'm looking for somebody who's checked off relationship. I am
Speaker 4: looking for some So I typically do skip over men
Speaker 4: who don't list their height, but I am looking for
Speaker 4: somebody at least at least five to ten. You don't
Speaker 4: have to be taller than me, but you have to
Speaker 4: be at least five to ten. Five nine is probably
Speaker 4: the shortest I would go.
Speaker 2: Would you say that that's a general rule for women
Speaker 2: in your height range?
Speaker 5: I think it is. Well, let me say this, Okay,
Speaker 5: now we're getting in the weeds of it.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's a typical thing for women in
Speaker 4: my height range and who have the professional drive that
Speaker 4: I have, because when you're constantly in a world where
Speaker 4: you're dominating, dominating, dominating, sometimes it's hard to turn that off.
Speaker 5: And visuals help you turn that off.
Speaker 4: If I if I walk in and I have to
Speaker 4: lean down and be like, hey, honey, I'm not turning
Speaker 4: it like that.
Speaker 3: You should have seen that on YouTube your childhood.
Speaker 5: How you dealing, buddy?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're six one six two in heels. Yes,
Speaker 2: what's the tallest you've dated? Six'?
Speaker 5: Eight that was.
Speaker 2: Fantastic evidently not you didn't end up with it, facts
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 4: The pictures and WHAT i saw in my head happening were,
Speaker 4: good and THAT'S i probably stayed in that situation a
Speaker 4: little longer THAN i should, have just because of how
Speaker 4: good we look.
Speaker 2: Together all, right let me get a little bit deeper in,
Speaker 2: this and we're talking about tender AND i think people
Speaker 2: are honest in what they want right lie about who
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: Exactly so when you're.
Speaker 2: Honest in what you, want if we were to generalize for,
Speaker 2: women what is it about? Heights is it about the
Speaker 2: visual aesthetic or is it about the feeling of?
Speaker 3: Protection what is?
Speaker 4: It it's, Both it's it's the visual. Aesthetic you, know
Speaker 4: when you're thinking about future, pictures you just want to
Speaker 4: be that statue esque. Couple you don't want to you
Speaker 4: don't WANT i dated a guy one time that was five,
Speaker 4: seven AND i couldn't do it BECAUSE i felt LIKE
Speaker 4: i was holding the hand of a child the whole.
Speaker 4: Time so just, MENTALLY i, Know i'm just being real
Speaker 4: sight to be, Real that's Why i'm SO i just
Speaker 4: couldn't mentally do it BECAUSE i, mean and then there
Speaker 4: were times when he'd be LIKE i think you should
Speaker 4: And i'd be, like, okay But i'm, Not and like
Speaker 4: there was there was just a level in me AND
Speaker 4: i could be a me. Thing and, AGAIN i think
Speaker 4: some of that was Because i'm so used to like
Speaker 4: being in a space WHERE i have to be to,
Speaker 4: Dominate and the only Time i'm able to turn that
Speaker 4: off is WHEN i do feel safe with. Somebody and
Speaker 4: part of me feeling safe with you is a man
Speaker 4: is feeling that you can protect. Me IF i feel
Speaker 4: LIKE i got to scoop you up and run out the,
Speaker 4: DOOR i don't think you can portag.
Speaker 2: ME i got to ask, you is the other woman
Speaker 2: in this? Conversation have you ever used TENDER.
Speaker 5: I have in? College, okay.
Speaker 3: You're honest in what you're looking. For what were you
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Speaker 3: Out, okay IF i am six, forty well live everywhere
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