WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.360 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.280 KFI AM six forty. 3 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:07.719 Later with Mo Kelly. 4 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:10.279 Let's go Beyond the box Score with Jackie Ray, Jackie 5 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:13.039 Ray good even, let's jump right into this. I reached 6 00:00:13.039 --> 00:00:15.160 out to you over the weekend because I saw a 7 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:18.839 rumor which popped up on social media, and it was 8 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:23.239 that Dawn Staley, who is presently the coach of the 9 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:28.320 three time in Citua champion South Carolina Gamecocks women and 10 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:32.119 also a member of the Nasmith Basketball Hall of Fame, 11 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.280 also a member of the FOEBA Basketball Hall of Fame, 12 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:42.039 three time Olympic gold medalist player, also Olympic gold medalist, 13 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:43.640 coach of the twenty twenty Olympics. 14 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:45.520 Down Staley, just for contest? 15 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:46.079 Come on now. 16 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:51.240 She has been contacted by the New York Knicks. I 17 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:53.679 can't say whether she's the front Raider runner, but it 18 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:57.320 has been confirmed that there is an actual conversation and 19 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.479 if it were to proceed, she could be and would 20 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:04.239 be the first female head coach of an NBA team. 21 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.680 What did you think about it when we first started 22 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:07.680 seeing this information. 23 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:10.280 When I first started seeing it, I definitely believed it 24 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:12.599 was true. Just because of her caliber, who she is, 25 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:15.000 the way that she can motivate both men and women. 26 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:17.959 We've seen that her resume in that area is flawless. 27 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.040 But I automatically said it's a no go for her. 28 00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:22.840 And the reason why I said that is because she 29 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:26.760 really has a passion for shaping young women for the 30 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.400 next level of their career and life. So it's not 31 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:32.159 just shaping them for the WNBA. 32 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:32.760 That's great. 33 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:36.319 Obviously, she's shaping champions. I mean every time somebody wins 34 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.799 a champion in the WNBA, don Staley's right there, you know, 35 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.719 look at my protege, so I think, but it's more 36 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:44.480 than that for her. For her, it really is preparing 37 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.439 young women for the next level, even if that doesn't 38 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:48.959 mean basketball, and. 39 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.159 That's a true passion for her. It warms her heart. 40 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:52.760 You can see it on her face every time she 41 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:55.640 talks about one of the students that came through her program. 42 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:57.599 So I just don't know. 43 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.079 Now, Look, Money talks to Boloney walks though, right, I 44 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:01.840 don't know what we're talking about financially. 45 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.879 Let me give you some context. Give it her resume, 46 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:09.319 which I read off intentionally. JJ Reddick, who is in 47 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:14.319 the number two market rookie coach no experience Lakers gets 48 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:18.800 eight million a year. Presently, Don Staley gets four million 49 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.039 a year as coach of the game Cocks. 50 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:22.800 So I don't know if. 51 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:25.360 It's to make more than JJ she should. 52 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.199 But you know, don't want to get ahead of ourselves. 53 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:31.000 But she would stand and make at least probably double 54 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.879 what she's making right now. And maybe after a certain point, 55 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.879 could she conceivably have a conversation with herself and say, 56 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:37.120 you know. 57 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:41.639 What I've done all I can do on this level. 58 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:43.680 We talk about it with men all the time, who 59 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:47.319 like a coach Skrzyzewski or someone who's done so much 60 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.439 in college ball, there may be that pull to go 61 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:51.439 to the next level. 62 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:53.680 That's a little different though, because when you're talking about 63 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.560 NC double A men's sports, where there it's basketball or football. 64 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:02.240 NC DOUBLEA men's sports have long stay alumni fan base, 65 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:04.960 so that is solidified. So if you succeed there, you 66 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.319 definitely should be able to succeed at the next level. 67 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:12.360 Right now, NCAA women's game is feeding the WNBA, so 68 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.319 she still has work to do to help build the WNBA. 69 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.280 If she wants to look at it now, look at 70 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:19.680 it like that. But on the flip side, she might say, 71 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:21.919 you know, there has to be a first at some point. 72 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.479 It is it is not unusual for men to coach 73 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:26.639 in the WNBA, which is right, which is very very 74 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:29.319 odd to me that we have more men than women 75 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:29.680 right now. 76 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:30.759 But it's fine. 77 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.800 But at some point somebody has to be the one 78 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:34.360 that cracks that glass ceiling. 79 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.560 So why not be the best to ever do it? 80 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.639 And we know that there have been female coaches in 81 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:43.479 the NBA, like Becky Hammond, right, but never a head coach. 82 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.919 I thought it was going to be Becky Hammon too, 83 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.120 but she decided to go to the WNBA after coaching 84 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:52.159 as an assistant under Great Popovich. 85 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.759 Right, but respectfully, and I love Becky. 86 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:58.800 Her contract is a problem because for her to make 87 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:02.479 exponentially more than every single play, you know, the highest 88 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.800 salary for players, what two hundred fifty thousand dollars if 89 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:07.560 you're lucky, if you're lucky, and you know, for her 90 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:10.280 to be making millions and the players and the w 91 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.159 still don't have revenue sharing and things of that nature. 92 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:15.360 There's not extra roster spots, so they're not having to 93 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.839 kill themselves playing this game. So while I appreciate it, 94 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.199 Becky saying no, I want to play. I want to 95 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:24.480 coach in the W Like, don't play us, you know 96 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:26.639 what I mean, Like you're still getting If you really 97 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:28.920 wanted to impact the league in that way, it would 98 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.720 have been a more yes, I'm gonna do this, but 99 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:33.920 you know, you would have to address that elephant in 100 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:37.240 the room. So for don Staley, if she is going 101 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.560 to go somewhere, I do think she'll go to the 102 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.920 NBA because I think with her understanding and her players 103 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:44.360 talk to her, they confide in her. 104 00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:46.160 She's like a godmom to a lot of them. 105 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.319 I don't think she would take a million dollar whatever salary, 106 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:51.079 even if it was. She makes four million right now, 107 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.319 so if she made five or six million in the 108 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:54.959 W I don't think she would take it because I 109 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:56.560 think it would be a conviction for her. So if 110 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:59.480 she is going to leave, it would be to the NBA. 111 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.240 And I'm also hearing that the Knicks are speaking to 112 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:07.120 They've had two interviews from what I understand and read 113 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:11.560 with former Lakers coach Mike Brown former Cavaliers Mike Brown, 114 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.319 I would not if I I don't because I don't 115 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.040 think he's a talking about Don Staley, I don't think 116 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.399 he's a leader of men. I don't know if people 117 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.959 I agree with that for him. I think they would 118 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:25.639 play for Don Steely. I really do. 119 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:27.879 Yeah, I agree with that because the way that she's 120 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.600 able to speak, she has this uncanny ability, like I've 121 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:33.399 seen her talk to to a multitude of different players. 122 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.600 She has an uncanny ability to just meet you where 123 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.519 you are, wherever, whatever that might be. Where you are 124 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:40.360 is going to be different than where I am. And 125 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.199 she's really good at that. And I think that the 126 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:45.199 question that's always going to come up when you're talking 127 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.759 about a woman coaching the men's game is can they 128 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:48.519 respect her? 129 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:51.600 That's why I read off that resume. 130 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:53.879 Exactly, if you don't respect her, then. 131 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.560 You don't respect the game, because she has set her 132 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:58.480 name in stone in this game. 133 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.480 I don't know if there I don't know if there's 134 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:06.360 anybody I'm being serious who has that resime right, Feeble 135 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:10.240 Hall of Fame, Nasmith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame, three 136 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.160 gold medals as a player, gold medal as a coach. 137 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.160 I don't know, right, And then you have to talk 138 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:18.199 about the intangibles. One of the things that comes in 139 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.680 women's sports a lot more often than comes in men's sports. 140 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.600 Is we have the social challenges with the set. In 141 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:27.279 social media, we battle the transgender conversation, and she has 142 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:30.480 handled all of those with grace and style. So if 143 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.160 they come up in the NBA, she can definitely lead 144 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:34.720 them in a way that they wouldn't be led by 145 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.040 anyone else. And she fits in New York specific man, 146 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.959 listen New York with love. She wouldn't pay nary a bill. Ever, 147 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:43.639 she'd be walking down the street. Can you get in 148 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:44.000 my car? 149 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:46.680 Let me put it in another way for those who 150 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.319 don't know Don Staley, she's already a living legend. She 151 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:52.199 is and have a living legend in the number one 152 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:56.639 media market in a legendary city with a legendary franchise. 153 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.360 It fits in so many ways. But to your point, 154 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.120 I don't know she wants that. 155 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.240 Yeah, I don't know if she wants. 156 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.560 And when you talk about the Knicks specifically, because you 157 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:06.000 know it was this is supposed to be the next 158 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:08.480 year supposed to be and it wasn't, and then if 159 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:13.560 she comes in do they blame her? Well, the bar 160 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.040 is going to be set high regardless, right right, I 161 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.240 mean if she if she makes the move. I don't 162 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.519 think she'll make it, But if she makes the move, listen, 163 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:23.480 I'm going to New York for the first game. 164 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:26.240 It would be one of the biggest things in the 165 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:27.120 history of sports. 166 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:28.439 I would be there front row. 167 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:30.399 When we come back. We have to talk about something 168 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:34.959 which should surprise nobody. There's another NBA player. Let me 169 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.279 just say, a professional sports figure who might be in 170 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:39.839 trouble for gambling. 171 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:40.959 Oh shocker. 172 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.600 Who could have seen that? Who could have predicted that? 173 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.639 Jackie Raise, other than I know that's coming up next. 174 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.000 If I am six forty life everywhere in my Heart radio. 175 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.720 App, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand 176 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:56.000 from KFI AM six forty. 177 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.199 Six forty Later with mo Kelly. As we continue to 178 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.079 go beyond the box Score with Jackie Ray and Jackie Ray. 179 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:08.639 I can't speak for other talk shows, but I know 180 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:13.199 that this particular talk show was on the story of 181 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.839 sports and gambling and the inevitability of it long before 182 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:22.199 probably anybody in the country. Yep, And we said that. 183 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:28.120 We started obviously with the Otani controversy and his interpreter. 184 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:32.120 I'm not trying to impugne anyone's integrity. Wait wait, but 185 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:34.759 we said that this is one of many across sports, 186 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:38.679 because it's everywhere now and we've been proven right along 187 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:43.519 the way. Now we have the Detroit Pistons Malik Beasley 188 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:50.200 reportedly being investigated by the FEDS allegations of gambling. A 189 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:53.879 prominent US sports book noticed unusual betting activity on prop 190 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.080 bets for Beesley. If you don't know, prop bet is 191 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:59.759 like those weird promotional best off. We bet that Mark 192 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:04.600 Beasley will Malik Bisley will get six rebounds this game, 193 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:06.840 or who will play twenty five minutes so you get 194 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:07.360 three points? 195 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:09.559 As in PubL it's like we'll have a streaker right 196 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:10.120 at halftime. 197 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:11.200 That's a prop bet. 198 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.639 And they noticed unusual betting on prop bets beginning in 199 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.440 January of last year, twenty twenty four. And this is 200 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:23.399 according to ESPN gambling reporter David Perdue. Beasley was playing 201 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.759 his loan season with the Bucks at that point. He 202 00:09:25.840 --> 00:09:28.559 started seventy seven games, scoring eleven point three points and 203 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:32.320 shooting forty one percent on threes. Here's the thing. If 204 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:35.240 they noticed it back in January of twenty twenty four, 205 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.720 it is likely to me that there was a pattern 206 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:43.080 that they noticed beyond January twenty twenty four in building 207 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.639 this case. Now, he hasn't been charged with anything, but 208 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:52.759 he is known to be under investigation, and I think, yes, 209 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:54.320 this is what his lawyer said. 210 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.240 Quote, an investigation is not a charge. 211 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:59.840 Malik is afforded the same right of the presumption of 212 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:02.840 it since as anyone else under the US Constitution. As 213 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:07.600 of now, he has not been charged with anything close quote. 214 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:08.679 Yeah, but for him to know. 215 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:14.200 That he is under investigation usually and I just say 216 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.480 this as someone who sat on a federal grand jury, 217 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:21.039 so I know how the investigations go. As far as 218 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:26.279 there's investigative and there's accusatory. Investigative ones go over the 219 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.279 portion of weeks or months. Accusatory is just a one 220 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:32.679 day thing when you have these investigative grand juries. And 221 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.200 I have to believe it's at a grand jury point 222 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.399 at this point, there present any evidence to the grand 223 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:38.360 jury what they know? 224 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:42.039 That says to me they got something. 225 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:45.840 They already have him and they just haven't actually gone 226 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:47.519 for the true bill the indictment. 227 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:52.919 What would you what would you ascertain from this investigation 228 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:53.440 so far? 229 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.759 So I'm right there with you. You don't even mention this, 230 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.879 This isn't even a talking point. If you don't, you 231 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.960 haven't dited all the eye and cross all the tea's. 232 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:02.759 They have what they need to have. If they wanted 233 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:06.559 to drop an indictment today, they could could be other 234 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.519 people involved. But you know, in my heart of hearts, 235 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.679 and I've said this about this topic from day one, 236 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:17.960 the relationship between professional sports and gambling is way too tight. 237 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:23.799 It just you know, and trastics and yeah, like I'll 238 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:27.159 go to what's the last game. Yeah, I've been to 239 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:31.039 I want to say, an NBA game and seen FanDuel 240 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:34.159 on the court or Draft Kings, you know what I mean. 241 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:37.519 And so there's a relationship there so much so that 242 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.960 I really just don't care because I think it's so 243 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.240 hypocritical for you to say, we're gonna partner with we 244 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:47.039 are you can't player, but us big establishment, we're gonna 245 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.279 partner with this gambling thing over here. Not so much 246 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.440 so that we're going to put their paraphernalia on our 247 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.559 floor and we're gonna tell our fans you should gamble 248 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:54.679 but not you player. 249 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.200 Well, one step further, it also be able to use 250 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:00.840 the names and likes the players. 251 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.159 Yes, and I've seen that in the commercial. So for me, 252 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:08.440 it's it's very very hypocritical because you can't how do 253 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:10.840 you draw that line? You literally you're drawing a line 254 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:13.480 in quicksand at this point, because you're saying do as 255 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.840 I say, not do as I do. That doesn't work 256 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.279 on kids. It's definitely not going to work on grown men. 257 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.840 And I understand the distinction being made worth like the 258 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:25.480 league making money is one thing. The players making money 259 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.399 and then impugning the integrity of the game is something else. 260 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:29.000 I get. 261 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:31.720 And the argument is, well, you really can't have it 262 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.679 both ways. If you don't want gambling in your sport, 263 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.080 then you have to make sure it's not in your. 264 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:39.879 Sport one percent, which means you sever this relationship because 265 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:42.840 the only way that you can really come down on 266 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.240 a player for gambling is if you don't take part 267 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:47.960 in it. You can't say do as I say. Again, 268 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.360 because it's very hypocritical. So now when you're telling and 269 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:54.480 now there's endorsement deals, you know, with certain people, so 270 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:57.559 you're literally telling the players, hey, we're bringing this this 271 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.679 entity in so we can make money. You can make money. 272 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.960 Let's build a partnership. I've been in partnerships that I've 273 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:07.559 also supported that other partner, and that might mean purchasing 274 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:09.200 something that they have distributed. 275 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:10.159 That's just how it goes. 276 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.799 It might be I don't know how the collective bargaining 277 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:15.840 agreement reads. It may be something where you have, like 278 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.200 you have a set aside or a carve out for 279 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:21.480 merchandise or apparel which is sold. They get a piece 280 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.519 of that, right, maybe they get a piece of the 281 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:27.399 gambling as well. But it's too easy for a middle 282 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:30.720 tier player to make money off these prop bets, because 283 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.320 we've heard about this before. Where they don't have to 284 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.600 throw a game or do something which is above the radar, 285 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:40.559 but they can do something where, okay, the over underar 286 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:42.879 is three points for me tonight, so let me just 287 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:46.159 make sure I get hurt or I have to sit 288 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:47.159 out the second half. 289 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:49.200 Right, They could do something like that, or they could 290 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:50.639 just make it. If it's if this is a person 291 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.080 who doesn't typically shoot threes, let me just shoot if 292 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:57.279 the percentages, so and so will shoot and make blah 293 00:13:57.320 --> 00:13:59.559 blah blah threes, whether I make it or not, nobody 294 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.639 really afects me to shoot threes if I'm not a 295 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.279 good three point shooter. So if I suddenly start shooting 296 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.799 threes and I catch on fire when I've made this bet, 297 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:08.559 that's a win win. That's one of those things where 298 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.559 you can kind of get away with People are gonna 299 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:12.600 be like, oh my gosh, Yeah, it's such an amazing night. No, 300 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.279 they were gambling, but it's just too thin of a line. 301 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:16.960 JB. 302 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:19.919 Martinez in the chat says, the players already make millions, 303 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.200 way more than the average fan will ever make. Might 304 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.039 as well let the fans have some fun gambling. 305 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:28.080 How would you respond? 306 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.720 I think money creps absolutely, and I think once you 307 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:34.039 get a taste of money and you can figure out 308 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:36.799 a way to get money easily. To say that, oh, 309 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:39.879 they shouldn't do that because they make so much money. 310 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.600 I have never met a person who makes so much 311 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:44.159 money and didn't want more. 312 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:45.919 Well, there are two things. I think they are two 313 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:46.399 parts of this. 314 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.360 He's saying that the average fan will won't make the 315 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:51.600 type of NBA money that the players make, so let 316 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.559 the fans have some fun. I say, when when you 317 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.559 introduce gambling into the sport, and there are too many 318 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:02.240 ways that players can excuse me, fans can reach players 319 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:03.799 can reach time about that? 320 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:05.360 Yeah, who can reach members? 321 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.600 Of the organization and get inside information or somehow create 322 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.840 a cooperative agreement. All I'm saying is this is another 323 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:17.039 example of the story can only in one way. Yeah, 324 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.360 with the scandal, which is going to impact the integrity 325 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:20.720 or the perception of the sport forever. 326 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.000 Yeah, and to your point, you know, never think that 327 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:27.120 a player is untouchable. I cover the WNBA next season. 328 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.879 I'm going to cover the Clippers as well. If I 329 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.279 have rapport with a player and you say, hey, Jackie, 330 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.799 do you think you can you know, nudge nudge, hint, hint, 331 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:36.440 winky winky. 332 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.360 Everyone's accessible. This is, you know, just a thing or not. 333 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.799 Was a beat writer for the Clippers. You may just 334 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.600 be in the locker room know some insider information. It's oh, 335 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:49.840 by the way, yeah he's not playing tonight. 336 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:51.559 Or they might see Sometimes they don't tell you. They 337 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:53.559 might limit a player's minutes, and they don't tell you 338 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:55.840 that because they don't want the They're like, this is 339 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:57.799 an injury that we don't really know what it is. 340 00:15:58.159 --> 00:15:59.080 We might have to limit there. 341 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.279 But I've learned some things just by being in the 342 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:03.759 locker room before and after that game. 343 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.080 They don't let us in the locker room anymore. They 344 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:10.320 don't know, no, at least not in the W. We 345 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:11.559 used to go in the locker room in the W 346 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:13.639 they don't ever since COVID, they don't let us in 347 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:14.720 the locker room anymore. 348 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:15.360 That makes sense. 349 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:17.000 So I don't know if it's like that in the NBA, 350 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:17.399 but they don't. 351 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.399 It probably is because they don't want to be responsible 352 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:21.240 for you getting. 353 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:24.440 Somewhere right right, So, because that's that was the best 354 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:26.240 ear hustling place on the planet. 355 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:29.919 You hear some stuff that, you see some stuff. This 356 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.320 is very valuable in this daid age. But I think 357 00:16:33.559 --> 00:16:35.639 it's just a matter of time until we have another 358 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:40.399 major gambling controversy in a major sport. 359 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.480 But I think, to say face the best way to 360 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.639 really be able to bring the hammer down morally on 361 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.120 a player, you have to sever these ties with the 362 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:49.360 gambling institutions. 363 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:50.000 Will what happens that. 364 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:51.559 I was gonna say, that's not gonna happen. It's much 365 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.759 money involved now, but it should it's later. With mo 366 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:56.919 Kelly always good to see you, great to see you too, well. 367 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:58.399 I see you Friday Chateau la moment. 368 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:00.879 I shall be that I will not be making any 369 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.440 dishes though okay, well, will you be I will bring Okay, 370 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:06.039 sounds good. 371 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.680 We're live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and the iHeartRadio app. 372 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:13.799 You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from 373 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:15.960 KFI Am sixty. 374 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:28.000 Kelly six Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And before 375 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.559 Jaguary could run out the studio, I said, Jackie, Jackie, 376 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:33.599 do not leave. Do not leave, because we need your 377 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:38.039 expertise on this Tender dating app, very popular dating app. 378 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:38.759 I don't know person. 379 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:40.799 I've never been on Tender and that's also something I 380 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.119 need Jackuarray to help me with. Tender is testing a 381 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:48.200 height filter. It's a new feature that allows people who 382 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:52.039 pay for the app to filter potential matches based on 383 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.160 height and short Men around the world are up in 384 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.920 arms about this controversial new feature. Literally, okay, up, okay, 385 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:01.519 jack you Ray, how tall are you? 386 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:05.960 Five eleven? I would pay the money for this. I 387 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:06.759 would pay. 388 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.240 I'm not I'm not five eleven. Mark are you five eleven? 389 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:12.279 I'm six even? 390 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:14.880 Yeah? 391 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:16.559 Stephen are you five eleven? 392 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:16.839 Yeah? 393 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:21.920 I am Okay, good answer. I don't know is that 394 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:24.720 are you really you seem taller than five eleven? No? 395 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:28.440 I think you are just not five eleven. 396 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:31.640 Okay, here we see problem. We're gonna take this to 397 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:33.160 the hallway. Were gonna tell you the best. We're taking 398 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.119 it the hallway and then we can all line each 399 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:38.400 other up. Okay, okay, look, I'm not five eleven. Let 400 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.200 me just say that. And I'm getting shorter by the 401 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:42.480