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Speaker 2: I want to get into a little bit of world
of by sports but also college athletics.
Speaker 3: Did you buy chance here?
Speaker 2: See the words the quotes from Joel Klatt one of
the enemies public enemies number one for college football fans.
I think right now a lot of people are like,
it's funny. People don't realize. Let me just give you
a baseline foundation here. The more people talk, the more
they say that you can criticize period. That's why radio
so tough now with all these streaming things going on
right now with video and things. Kirk Hurbstreet has been
thrown under, Josh Pate has been thrown UNDERBLIC public anemy
number two.
Speaker 3: And number three. But I think the hated college.
Speaker 2: Football analyst right now maybe Joel Klatt, the former Boulder,
Colorado product the PAC twelve advocate that the defunct PAC
twelve advocate right because it no longer exists.
Speaker 3: He was not a friend to BYU during this process.
I don't know. In fact, I don't think any of
these guys were Peyton State.
Speaker 2: Joel Klatt as well as Kirk Kurtry, none of them
were advocating for by Did you hear, by chance what
he said about the NC Double A tournament?
Speaker 1: You know, I saw some of the headlines. I didn't
I didn't catch exactly what was said other than the
fact that he had some pretty terrible takes on just
the overall tournament itself.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna give it to you right here, let
me give you a quote, and then we're gonna play
the sound by I hopefully you can hear it. So
he stated this, This was a This was a few
days ago. He hopped onto I think the Jump sports
podcast and said, Uh, the NCAA Basketball Tournament is a joke.
It's the dumbest tournament in and the least fair tournament
in all of sports. We put teams at odd times
on neutral sites in a one game affair that doesn't
crown a true champion. Let's listen in he pontificates a
little bit further here.
Speaker 4: About that we don't want Cinderella's we want the best
teams playing each other at the end. In fact, hot take,
I mean, like the hottest of all takes that I've
ever had in my entire life. The NCAA Basketball Tournament
is a joke. It's it's the it's the dumbest tournament
and the least fair tournament in all of sports. We
go and we put we put teams at odd times
on neutral sites in a one game affair like that
doesn't crown a true champion.
Speaker 3: We're not We're not.
Speaker 4: Doing anything that tells us who's the best team over
the course of the entire season. You know, like, if anything,
the NCAA Basketball tournament should act exactly like the old
the old World Cup, which we should have groups. They
should all get guaranteed three games, and they should be
played at the higher seeds arena so that those seeds
are rewarded for a quality game. And that way we
don't just get to see, like you know, Kentucky won
and done against George Mason or something like that. Well,
that's stupid about that. We don't want cinderellas so late.
Speaker 3: Were you able to hear that by chance?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you heard it. What do you agree with?
Speaker 2: What do you disagree with from Joel Klatt about Cinderellu's
NCAA tournament grouping one and done type of situations, neutral sites.
Speaker 3: What stood out to you?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't know if there's much that I can't
agree on. I think I personally feel like March Madness
is the best tournament out there. This is from someone
who grew up in acc country watching Duke in Carolina
and NC State and all these teams compete. And that's
the beautiful thing about March madness is it levels out
that playing field on those neutral sites right where you
can see a team like Valparaiso go in and go
deep into the tournament, or Butler or you know, BYU,
you know where you know, college football doesn't have that
luxury right now. So I also kind of don't know
if I would necessarily put a lot of stock in
what he's saying. I mean, he is a he is
a college football guy, and so to say that that's
like one of the worst tournament formats is kind of
crazy in my opinion, because I think most people will disagree.
Speaker 2: With that well, and then foundationally just before he was
talking about that, like he doesn't like that. He's one
of those anti JMU, anti two lane guys. He doesn't
want a Cinderella in the college football Playoff. He doesn't
want automatic bids from teams that don't that aren't one
of the top twelve teams in college football per his
his purview, right, And I understand where he's coming from there.
It's like, you know, other teams should maybe be in
this college football playoff, and BYU like like byu' is
a better team than too Late, right, b Y is
a better team in JMU.
Speaker 3: They were one of the.
Speaker 2: First teams out, and so like, I understand this perspective
that he has on the college football playoff and even
how he views I actually think there is some I
think there's some valid points that he makes when you're
talking about crowning the one true champion and having the
best teams, you know, group together in those final few games,
et cetera. Football is different than basketball completely, and you
make a really good point. Typically the best team wins
in football. It's really hard to like just get hot
in a football game, No, because there's too many. There's
eleven players on the field, and you have to be
a really good team to win basketball.
Speaker 3: Someone can get hot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Ap and Ronnie pull up to the
local gym and someone's running. You know, they're really talented,
so we could you step in. I'm an old man.
Ap still has some vigoran vim. Ronnie Hill you know
his he can still get buckets. We could get hot
and knock off a good team, right like we in
the basketball world, it's a little bit different. He's an
idiot for saying we don't want cinderellas. What an ignorant
thing to say, you know, I think, But at the
same time, I do believe there is probably something to
the neutral side of things, the neutral games of the
NCAA tournament, right. I understand why they do it, but
if you've won the regular season or you won your
conference tournament, you're a higher seed, it'd be nice to
have a competitive advantage rather than a neutral site. So
I do think there's some credence now he backed The
thing that I think is so interesting is he backed
up and said that's a terrible take.
Speaker 3: Recently he said it was a bad take. It was
a terrible thing.
Speaker 2: This tells me everything I need to know about Joe Klatt.
He's thought about this, He's delved into this. He said,
we don't want cinderellas. In fact, the NCAA tournament's the
worst tournament because it doesn't crown the once tri trip.
Speaker 3: He's thought about this.
Speaker 2: This is something he believes, and just because there's bad
pr backlash, he's like, no, guys, I was wrong.
Speaker 3: This is the ultimate politician.
Speaker 2: Listen to this, watch him back it up, back it
up the truck saying I just want everyone to like me. Now,
don't hate on me, don't attack me. Listen to Joel Klatt.
Speaker 4: I had an interesting take. It was a bad take.
It was a terrible take. To be fair, what I
said on their show on Monday morning early was sloppy
and worded wrong, and so it was kind of like
I landed the plane, but it was in a cornfield
and so like we had to hit the eject and
it was like we kind of like the plane didn't
crash necessarily. Here's the deal the NCAA Basketball Tournament. If
the objective was to crown the best basketball team of
the college basketball season, then it's a bad format. And
because of that then it's not fair, is what I said.
And I said is a joke. It's the dumbest and
that's obviously going to grab headlines. And again that's stupid
of me to use those terms. But the structure of
the NCAA Basketball Tournament, it's objective is entertainment.
Speaker 3: It's meant to be a gauntlet.
Speaker 4: So the point is the best college basketball team for
the year doesn't always win the NCAA Basketball Tournament. That
tournament is set up to just crown its own champion.
It's a made for TV entertainment event and it's great.
And by the way, I do love the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
But if you're asking me, is it structured properly to
crown the best team of the season, then the answer
is no. It's a hot take. It's a bad take.
Not everyone's going to share that with me, because everyone
loves the entertainment value of cinderellas in the NCAA Basketball Tournament.
But here's the thing, if you're actually honest with yourself,
you love the cinderellas early late. You want to see
the best teams playing against each other. You want to
see incredible regional finals. You want to see Kentucky and
Duke with Latner hitting it at the buzzer. Why, because
that's greatness. Yes, you love cinderellas in the tournament because
you have sixty eight teams. But in college football, ours
is much more selective. We have twelve teams of one
hundred and thirty whatever teams in college football, and so
once we're down to twelve, well, now we don't really
want cinderellas. And I will maintain that opinion. That is
my opinion. You can disagree, and more power to you.
Speaker 3: All Right, there you go, Layne Alo game Day, Men's health.
What do you make of that? Is he backing it
up enough for you?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 3: What vibe do you get listening to Joel Klatt there?
Speaker 1: Well, he kind of said he's talking out of both
sides of his mouth right now. He's saying that no
one wants it, but then everyone wants wants it, and
it's like, well, which one is it? I personally love
the Cinderella story even like, here's the deal, Like I
think you said it perfectly. No one is expecting Tulane
to come out here and win the college football playoffs.
No one's expecting for a JAMU to do it. Could
they potentially get by a first round Navy, who knows,
But there's no way that they're going to win the
whole thing, right, And it's like you said, there's just
too many moving parts. But to say that people don't
want to Cinderella story, that's like patently false, right, Like
we love the Cinderella story. In fact, even outside of
this within the bowl season, right, we've had you know,
I don't know if you want to call it a
Cinderella story, but just think back to like Boise and
State in two thousand and seven and that Fiesta Bowl.
People loved that game.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 1: State was a huge underdog and that was a insanely
entertaining game to watch. So people do want do want
that because for how many Oklahoma fans there are who
were watching that game, there was a whole lot of
people in the country who were rooting against Oklahoma in
that game, and they love that.
Speaker 2: I'm right with you, Lane, So my thoughts, I'll give
you my thoughts here. I'll go let ap chime in
as well. I got used Carl's car salesman vibes outside
both speaking outside, both of his mouths, right both sides.
He's gonna tell you what he told you how he
really feels right off the bat, and then whenever he
got criticism, now he's backing it up. That's a politician
that to me, has been bought and paid for by
big business as well. That's the vibe that I get.
He got enough flack for it. He felt like it
was hurting his brand. He felt like he was getting,
you know, this constructive feedback and it could be you know,
some angry people too, and he's like, I gotta back this,
and I gotta soften it up a little bit. I
was too hyperbolic, but he told you exactly how he
felt right off the bat, Like that's his truth, that's
his reality of the NCAA tournament and how he feels
the college foot ball playoff should run jam you and
and Tulane shouldn't be in and you should.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a better format.
Speaker 2: He feels like the college football play iff is actually
still a better format than than college basketball. That's kind
of that's the vibe that I got, And I think
it's interesting, Like, now you know you can't really trust
Joel Klatt, is what I'm getting at, Like now I know,
like I I, he's going to be tossed a little
bit to and fro by either money or or public
relations backlash. So I'm like, now, I just like, Okay,
he's just a talking head that is going to say
whatever you know, he thinks he's going to be most
beneficial to his pocketbook. Your thoughts, ap, well, my thoughts
first and foremost. If you want a basketball tournament that's
like the World Cup where you have group stages, go
watch the NBA Cup.
Speaker 5: How successful has that been? I've never met.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I've met someone who gives a
rip about the NBA Cup. It's meaningless, it's not it's not.
Speaker 3: A great tournament. Let's be honest here.
Speaker 5: March Madnus is perfect.
Speaker 3: It is the best.
Speaker 5: Outside of the World Cup, which I love for personal reasons.
Outside of the World Cup, March Madus is the best
tournament out there because it gives everyone an opportunity to
earn it on the court. Okay, Loyola Chicago went to
the Final four, not because they got hot for one game.
They earned it on the court several times. But Joe
clad over here is saying we should never have let
them have a chance at this. Never because they're from
this little school. I don't trust where they're from.
Speaker 3: Never.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because he wants Duke and North Carolina. If you
want Duke in North Carolina, watch the regular season they
played twice. Okay, And so when it comes to football,
if you're applying that to football, you're probably going to
still get Ohio State, Texas Tech, Indiana in the National
Championship game, Chu Lane and Jmu they're gonna get They're
gonna get their but they're not gonna go all the way.
Let's be honest here, and if they do, then they've
earned it on the field and they deserve it. Okay,
And if I'll say this, if they do win the
national championship, then that's great. I think that then they've
earned it. They've earned it. That's the point here, is
that you need to give these little schools an actual
chance instead of just saying on the hypothetical field, on
my paper football team, we beat them by forty and
you might beat them by forty, but you might not.
Speaker 3: And we all know that.
Speaker 2: Utah, speaking of paper, they've never lost a game on paper.
Speaker 5: They have the greatest paper football team in the history
of paper football. The problem comes when they field their
actual football team.
Speaker 2: And they have to go to Lavelle Edwards Stadium and win,
and they couldn't do it. Lane, Hey, Lane, appreciate you.
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