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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Just follow me down this road.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm very monochromatic in my emotional diversity.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, and how that's not good. You got that

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<v Speaker 1>science says, you know, before you make a decision, write

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<v Speaker 1>down three emotions you're feeling, and your decision will be

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<v Speaker 1>less biased that way. And it kind of goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to what happened in France in eighteen sixty three when

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<v Speaker 1>the vineyards were dying because of a parasite and they

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<v Speaker 1>found out that they were only using one type of

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<v Speaker 1>vine or one type of planting of the vine okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they needed to diversify all of that in

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<v Speaker 1>order for the vineyards to achieve health again. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what it goes back to, is if you

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<v Speaker 1>have emotional diversity, your better mental health. You're happier. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not all good emotions. You don't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>all good emotions, but that it makes you more.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to write down three.

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<v Speaker 1>Rounded three, I know, I well, that's what I have.

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<v Speaker 1>It was at that point where I said, what would Gary.

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<v Speaker 2>Write down I would write one.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that one of the things you can do

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<v Speaker 1>to help with that is to expand your vocabulary of

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<v Speaker 1>like emotion.

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<v Speaker 3>My emotional vocabulary. Yeah, okay, well I don't come here

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<v Speaker 3>at nine every morning for therapy, but it sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly where I would find that kind of language,

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<v Speaker 3>an emotional my emotional vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you feeling right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Frustration and is that an emotion?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? And anticipation and an emotion?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it really yeah? Oh maybe?

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<v Speaker 3>Well maybe I already have the vocabulary. I'm just not

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<v Speaker 3>using it correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in there, You're just not reaching out and grabbing them.

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<v Speaker 3>The emotions that people in New Jersey are feeling right now, frustration, anticipation, fear.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe good.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of drones going over the skies in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know why, although it's been almost three weeks

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<v Speaker 3>now since we started seeing reports of some drones, some

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<v Speaker 3>of them very very large, at least in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>what we think of drones, some as big as minivans

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<v Speaker 3>or cars. New Jersey Congressman Jeff Van Drew started kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a firestorm when he said he has sources I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know where A congressman has sources that he's not

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<v Speaker 3>willing to reveal, but he has sources that suggest this

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<v Speaker 3>is Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>Iran launched them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>Iran launched a mothership, probably about a month ago that

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<v Speaker 4>contains these drones. That mothership is off I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 4>you the deal. It's off the east coast of the

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<v Speaker 4>United States of America. They've launched drones. Is everything that

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<v Speaker 4>we can see or hear. And again, these are from

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<v Speaker 4>high sources. I don't say this lightly. Know that Iran

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<v Speaker 4>made a deal with China to purchase drones, mothership and

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<v Speaker 4>technology in order to go forward. The sources I have

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<v Speaker 4>are good. They can't reveal who they are because they

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<v Speaker 4>are speaking to me in confidentiality. These drones should be

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<v Speaker 4>shot down, whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we

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<v Speaker 4>can't imagine, or whether it is Iran, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it very possibly could be, they should be shot down.

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<v Speaker 4>We are not getting the full deal and the military

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<v Speaker 4>is on alert with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting the way that you look at me when

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<v Speaker 1>I delve into my conspiracy theories over here in my

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<v Speaker 1>tin hat, he sounds cuckoo pants.

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<v Speaker 2>The sources are very high.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't talk to me, but because they're on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, what's his algorithm going

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<v Speaker 1>to reveal to us? Well, it sounds pretty great, cuckoo pants.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pentagon says it's not Iran. This is Sabrina seeing

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<v Speaker 1>one of the Pentagons spokespeople.

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<v Speaker 2>There is not any truth to that.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States, and there's no so called mothership launching drones

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<v Speaker 3>towards the United State. Okay, now that's from the Department

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<v Speaker 3>of Defense. Okay, if that's the case. If you're saying

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<v Speaker 3>it's not Iran, well that leaves open still eleven other

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<v Speaker 3>possibilities where this is not a good thing for the

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<v Speaker 1>There have been reports ranging from four to one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty sidings per night. If you and I were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here right now and we saw a drone out

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<v Speaker 1>the window the size of a van, we would shoot it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have any guns with it, or do we do?

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<v Speaker 6>We do?

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<v Speaker 7>We?

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<v Speaker 3>I want folks out there to know we're not listen.

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<v Speaker 7>You're frustrated, so are we.

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<v Speaker 3>But based on everything and we're going to stay at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you this is our top priority.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the governor of the state of New Jersey, who

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<v Speaker 3>does not know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem that they're not doing anything. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>responding to this. Again, if we saw a drone the

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<v Speaker 1>size of a van, I wouldn't rest until all of

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<v Speaker 1>Burbank police were here firing out it, shooting it down.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing we talked yesterday and the day before

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<v Speaker 3>about this concept of social banditry. When the government or

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<v Speaker 3>the people in power, yes, either don't or appear unable

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<v Speaker 3>to fix a situation, we looked social bandits to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Care of it. Get me Robin Hood.

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<v Speaker 3>I guarantee you someone's going to start peeling off shots.

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<v Speaker 2>At these things. I can't believe it hasn't happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And there was a story last week about a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say it was down in Florida, because Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was an old guy about seventy years old,

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<v Speaker 3>who started shooting at drones that were around his house.

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<v Speaker 3>In his case, it was a delivery drone, which also

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<v Speaker 3>would scare me. But he shot it out of the

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<v Speaker 3>sky and had to plead to some lesser charge other

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<v Speaker 3>than you know, like discharging a firearm in a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever he got.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not condoning it, but I'm saying, Hello government, Hello FAA,

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Department of Defense. If you can't tell the people

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<v Speaker 3>of New Jersey what is going on, the people of

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey are going to react in a potentially violent

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<v Speaker 3>way against these things.

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<v Speaker 2>This is New Jersey after all. Also it's New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the mayor of a town called Pequanic, Pequanic, Pequantic,

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<v Speaker 3>the mafia, Ryan Hurd.

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<v Speaker 9>My head is about to explode. Yep, they know nothing.

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<v Speaker 9>This is America. Are you telling me that somebody can

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<v Speaker 9>be flying drones over my town in Pequanic and nobody

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<v Speaker 9>has any idea what's going on? This is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, listens to the show he does.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a great Twilight Zone episode where the power goes out.

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<v Speaker 3>There's rumors of monsters in the next neighborhood over and

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<v Speaker 3>the lack of information was the dangerous part. Because we

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<v Speaker 3>humans are awful, like you said yesterday, We're awful at

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<v Speaker 3>figuring out what's good for us or doing the things

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<v Speaker 3>that are good for us. The things that are good

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<v Speaker 3>for us is as a nation, as a as a people,

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<v Speaker 3>as a neighborhood in Pequanic or wherever you are in

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<v Speaker 3>New Jersey is finding out what this is and fixing

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<v Speaker 3>the problem, solving this mystery. And if that means that

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<v Speaker 3>you have to take some of this, be more aggressive,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will, then that's what the people of New

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<v Speaker 3>Jersey are going to do. Don't shoot down a drone

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<v Speaker 3>in a neighborhood because it's going to fall on somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>or it could, and that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But people are going to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the government doesn't do anything about it, or doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>or appears completely inact completely.

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<v Speaker 1>What's worse not doing anything about it, or you can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it, or you're not smart enough to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're too big, the bureaucracy is too large. Bring

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<v Speaker 1>in Elon Musk, bring in.

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<v Speaker 3>The drone vigilantes to take care of this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next the Clemency Day for nearly fifteen one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred people, the biggest single day act of clemency in

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<v Speaker 1>modern history.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, check your email inbox. You might have gotten a

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<v Speaker 3>pardon today.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know, Gary advice, Yes, next time, Shannon kind

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<v Speaker 4>of ask you or give you some kind of emotional quiz.

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<v Speaker 1>Advice or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Take the bra off, pull your pants off, pull your

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<v Speaker 2>pants off. What get going man?

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<v Speaker 6>Pull up your pants, take off the pawn.

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<v Speaker 5>Be a man.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what he was going for. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>take your pants off. Here, everybody's take your pants off.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody is jeff an Encino six feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking this show, your.

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<v Speaker 5>Show has taken on a little bit of a Dan

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<v Speaker 5>Patrick bent. And technically Dan Patrick isn't associated you because

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<v Speaker 5>he's on your sister station, a sports channel. He refers

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<v Speaker 5>to ESPN as the mother ship. I think ESPN might

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<v Speaker 5>have anything to do with the drones.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, it would be interested that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that is a really good association from yesterday. One

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<v Speaker 1>guy calling in with the hype Wait yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>capitalizing on the mothership comment in the first segment and

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<v Speaker 1>correlating that and next.

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<v Speaker 3>Level nice guy also in the In the few times

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<v Speaker 3>that we've had any interaction with him.

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<v Speaker 2>We have never had interaction.

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<v Speaker 3>You've talked about meeting him in the elevator. No, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I know we talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're thinking of Colin Coward. Uh, not a nice guy. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding. I don't know. That's just come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>these drones.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're not from Iran or China or anywhere I

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<v Speaker 6>ran in China or whoever. They're not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Put a big drone up in the air that's flashing

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<v Speaker 2>lights in the middle of the night. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like to hide from everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because they're gathering secret information with their flashing lights.

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<v Speaker 2>Get at it with you. It's just some punk exactly, nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>Get excited about.

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<v Speaker 9>They'll arrest him.

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<v Speaker 7>That'll be it.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a nice flight.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, China and Iran are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be that conspicuous.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry. They're surveilling.

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't see it in the form of a van,

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<v Speaker 1>a drone the size of a van.

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<v Speaker 3>What about the giant spy balloon that floated over this

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<v Speaker 3>United States for eight days?

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was that and we just looked like

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<v Speaker 2>morons watching it. Can you see the balloon? I could

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<v Speaker 2>see the bloom.

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<v Speaker 1>We were too worried about which bathroom a transgender would

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go into. Transgender person, I'm sorry, President Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I know you're right. I appreciate that. I was

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<v Speaker 2>I know what you're doing. Okay, I see you.

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden announced he's commuting the sentences of some fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>He's making these moves.

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<v Speaker 3>That are absolutely eroding whatever legacy he thought he was

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<v Speaker 3>pardoning his own son for that massive blanket pardon that

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<v Speaker 1>Which is ridiculous because if they had long sentences, they

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a long sentence, a long prison sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not nonviolent.

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<v Speaker 2>They said.

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<v Speaker 3>shown a commitment to rehab and reintegration into their communities. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty nine people who are being pardon were pardoned

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<v Speaker 3>were also convicted of nonviolent crimes considered to have demonstrated

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<v Speaker 3>records of meaningful, meaningfully giving back to the country. We

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<v Speaker 3>have not yet seen a full list of names of

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<v Speaker 3>the clemency recipients, but you're going to find out that

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<v Speaker 3>some of them are donors, or some of them are

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<v Speaker 3>you know, family members of Congress, people that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole nonviolent crime thing is beloney burglary is

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<v Speaker 1>nonviolent crime, robbery, arson, harassment, embezzlement, theft, fraud. Think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the fraud that's gone on and all the fraud

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<v Speaker 1>targeting the elderly. I mean, these are not nonviolent crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an aggravated rape and murder. But people are

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<v Speaker 1>harmed by these crimes that result in long prison sentences.

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<v Speaker 3>The way the White House puts this out, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>is they only describe the positives. They don't describe necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't get a list of what these people were

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<v Speaker 3>in for One of the people pardoned a decorated military

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<v Speaker 3>veteran described as having devoted much of his time to

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<v Speaker 3>natural disasters, an addiction counselor recognized for his dedication to

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<v Speaker 3>mentoring young men of color. Again, those are all very

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<v Speaker 3>positive things, but they did very bad things to be

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<v Speaker 3>put in jail for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not you can't just you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And shame on CNN for not sitting down and digging

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it in any publication, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet really of Yeah, okay, they did good things in incarceration, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what they do to get inside. Don't you think as

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<v Speaker 1>It's inaccurate, it's in complete reporting.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Joe Moldonado as asking President to elect Trump

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<v Speaker 3>to use his powers once he gets back into office.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll do this. This is this is Joe exotic. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll do this because that's that's a good,

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<v Speaker 1>nice little headline. That's a nice little splash. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>Trump would like to do.

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<v Speaker 3>He's sentenced to twenty two years in prison. He appealed

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<v Speaker 3>and got it reduced to twenty one years.

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<v Speaker 2>Who didn't want to kill Carol Baskin?

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<v Speaker 3>Killing tigers, selling tiger cubs, falsifying records, those are the.

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<v Speaker 1>Things he's not trying to kill her, No, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Carol Baskin f and Carol Baskin.

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<v Speaker 3>Up next, the latest on the United Healthcare CEO murder.

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<v Speaker 1>So I read this article this morning actually out of MPR,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was to your point.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, yeah, this was a shooter who railed against

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<v Speaker 1>the healthcare industry. But he's missing a big thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>talks about life expectancy and how our life expectancy is

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<v Speaker 1>relatively a low for what we pay for healthcare compared

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<v Speaker 1>to other countries. But then they drill down on why

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<v Speaker 1>that is, and it's not because of our healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because of the way that we take care of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like we're moving towards a weird reckoning when

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<v Speaker 1>To healthcare, and I go back and forth because no

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the most compelling moves in college football we've

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't dug into this enough to understand all of

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<v Speaker 1>this decision, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's well, he clearly likes being around college age people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Girlfriend is fiveteen. Yeah. But they approved it last night,

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose North Carolina officials. So they agreed to a

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<v Speaker 3>five year deal. The board of trustees had to hold

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<v Speaker 3>an emergency meeting this morning to approve this contract. Al

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<v Speaker 3>Michaels is going to come back to Thursday Night Football

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<v Speaker 3>next year with Amazon Prime. He's seventy seven years old.

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<v Speaker 3>He was his current contract. He gets about fifteen million

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<v Speaker 3>a year from Amazon. They haven't said how much this

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Garay Shannon six foot one to twenty on graduating

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<v Speaker 6>Eagle Rock High School circa nineteen eighty three. I'm currently

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<v Speaker 6>containers eleven and I forgot why I even called Oh yeah, drums, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>those drums. When people are worried about the old What

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<v Speaker 6>about the TikTok? The China's staling all our information? Just

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<v Speaker 6>on that alone? Us is that every damn day.

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<v Speaker 1>The TikTok, TikTok, the drones and the TikTok and the

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know about the chemtrails. TikTok may be

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<v Speaker 2>shut down though, right, Yeah, why can't we shut down

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<v Speaker 2>these drones?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Hi, Gary and Shannon. Been listening to you guys

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<v Speaker 7>for a long time. I actually live in northern New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 7>We see these drones every night over our neighborhoods, over

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<v Speaker 7>our homes. They move around in clusters. They are enormous.

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<v Speaker 7>They are not hobby drones that you pick up at

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<v Speaker 7>the local Best Buy. These are very expensive pieces of equipment,

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<v Speaker 7>and they are frightening.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, I don't quite understand why people aren't taking

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why they've been able to do this

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks four to one hundred and eighty sidings a

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the wake of the killing of the United

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<v Speaker 1>Healthcare CEO, there's been a lot of talk online and

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere about the dysfunctional health care industry in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>And while they say it is true, it is uniquely

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<v Speaker 1>costly and frustrating. There is a reason our life expectancy

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<v Speaker 1>trails many comparable nations. The Centers for Disease Control and

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<v Speaker 1>Prevention's latest calculations put our life expectancy in America at

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven and a half years. That's far below the

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<v Speaker 1>average life expectancy for other high income countries, which is

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<v Speaker 1>eighty years. They say, well, problems with health care access

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<v Speaker 1>cause suffering. Healthcare is not the main factor behind poor

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<v Speaker 1>life expectancy. This is according to doctor Stephen Wolf. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor Emeritus at the Center on Society and Health

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<v Speaker 1>at Virginia Commonwealth. He says research shows at about ten to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of health outcomes are attributable to.

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<v Speaker 2>Health care, which is bad. That's bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It is bad, But that's not what drives that lower

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<v Speaker 3>life expectancy in the United States. They actually point to

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things. One of them, they say, is

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that firearms are so available in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, that's the NPR slant, right right, they just

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<v Speaker 1>like to wedge it into everything. But okay, fine, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>throw it in. But it's also us and our inability

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of ourselves. It's the food industry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's physical inactivity, it's child poverty, it's air pollution, it's

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<v Speaker 3>traffic fatalities. It's the fact that we are fat beyond

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<v Speaker 3>fat and that causes massive secondary problems.

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<v Speaker 1>And pharmaceuticals and pharmacutssed with pill popping.

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<v Speaker 2>Well think of listen.

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<v Speaker 3>conversations about RFK Junior becoming the head of Health and

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<v Speaker 3>Human Services and the fear that he brings because he

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<v Speaker 3>was a he was a heroin user for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>or he has crazy ideas that vaccine should be tested

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<v Speaker 3>before they're put into kids, or you know, the wackiness

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<v Speaker 3>that he is, But he's asking questions that need to

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<v Speaker 3>be asked that we have ignored for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 3>and it seems like there is a push. This isn't

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<v Speaker 3>just like the health food push of the eighties, which

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<v Speaker 3>was take sugar out of everything, make everything low fat,

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<v Speaker 3>regardless of what you have to do to make it

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<v Speaker 3>low fat or low sugar. Something like that, which is

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<v Speaker 3>pump in other chemicals that are going to be just

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<v Speaker 3>changed about our food that then had an impact in

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<v Speaker 3>less healthy now than we've ever been despite the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that there's such a huge push for physical fitness and

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<v Speaker 3>healthy eating and all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We were able to regulate the tobacco industry, right, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why they pivoted into the get you hooked on

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<v Speaker 1>did to the tobacco industry and do that to the

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<v Speaker 1>food industry. They're not trying to just make lovable foods

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<v Speaker 1>and food tasting good. They're trying to get you addicted.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to get you addicted. This is not a good thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thing to unhook yourself from what drove you into that

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<v Speaker 1>addiction and then what did you learn about your addiction

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that caused me to start

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<v Speaker 3>listening to this sort of thing, at least in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of what the government says about things like obesity. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to pick on people who are overweight, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not what this is. But one of the opportunities they

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<v Speaker 3>to stay in shape, you need to take care of yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>watch what you eat, was during COVID and they refuse

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<v Speaker 3>to do that. The government by and large refused to

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<v Speaker 3>say keeping yourself generally healthier, making yourself healthier could be

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<v Speaker 3>a huge help in fighting COVID, and they refuse to

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they could have said, take this time that you're

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<v Speaker 1>at home to learn how to eat clean.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's today's exercise of the day. Here's a new thing

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to try, or here's a success story. Barbara's

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<v Speaker 3>been stuck in her house for six weeks, but she's

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<v Speaker 3>lost twelve pounds because we were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like making our own bread and just eating at home.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I were still healthier. Yeah, it was healthier.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I remember like going back out into the

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<v Speaker 1>wild after the lockdown was lifted or the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you started to get takeout and stuff like that. How

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<v Speaker 1>different everything tasted just from eating clean for like a

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<v Speaker 1>month or two. How you were able to realize that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what food should tastes like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they didn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't say, take this opportunity to let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to our let's go back to the building blocks of

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<v Speaker 1>how we eat and just cut out all that process stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>cut all out all the stuff that's in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us now for more on an aspect of that

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<v Speaker 3>story is Laura Ingle from News Nation. Once of our

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<v Speaker 3>Own KFI and Laura in New York, we've seen some

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<v Speaker 3>wanted posters going up with the healthcare CEOs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of scary.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey guys, Yeah, this has been crazy. It seems like

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<v Speaker 8>every day, and I've said this before, we've got new developments.

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<v Speaker 8>In this case, yesterday, these wanted those good old fashioned

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<v Speaker 8>kind of wanted posters showed up in Lower Manhattan if

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<v Speaker 8>you know Manhattan, it was down by Canal Street and

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<v Speaker 8>in that general area by where there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>metro trains. Obviously, we've seen a lot of online backlash

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<v Speaker 8>four with these types of stories, but the reaction to

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<v Speaker 8>Brian Thompson's murder last week has really taken things to

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<v Speaker 8>this whole new level because it's no longer just online,

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<v Speaker 8>which we've been reporting on, but now it's showing up

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<v Speaker 8>physically on these posters that have been plastered around Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 8>and the NYPD issuing a new bulletin. They're taking it

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<v Speaker 8>so seriously, warning of what they're calling a heightened risk

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<v Speaker 8>environment for healthcare executives because of these not only viral

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<v Speaker 8>posts on social media, but on these wanted posters, and

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<v Speaker 8>these posters feature the faces of insurance executives and the

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<v Speaker 8>scary one is the one that has Brian Thompson's photo

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<v Speaker 8>has a big red X through it, like, we're done

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<v Speaker 8>with this person. So now you mentioned Luigi, He's in custody,

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<v Speaker 8>So who is it that's putting up these wanted posters?

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<v Speaker 8>And a lot of people have also wondered about who

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<v Speaker 8>he was on the phone with, did he have an accomplice?

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<v Speaker 8>I still can't get over the differences in the eyebrows

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<v Speaker 8>of the man we saw in Starbucks and the man

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<v Speaker 8>we saw in cab If you look at the distance

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<v Speaker 8>between the two eyebrows, it's pretty significant. Is it the

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<v Speaker 8>same person? So those are some of the things that

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<v Speaker 8>people are looking into right now and comparing. But the

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<v Speaker 8>wanted posters is just a whole new level of ick

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<v Speaker 8>when it comes to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never seen and maybe I haven't been paying

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<v Speaker 1>enough attention, Laura, but I have never seen such a

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<v Speaker 1>wide breath of amateur sleuthing on social media over a

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<v Speaker 1>news story. It just seems like it has touched a

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<v Speaker 1>larger swath of people that are commenting and digging into

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<v Speaker 1>what this all means and all of it.

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<v Speaker 8>I agree with you, and I think one of the

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<v Speaker 8>reasons why we're seeing that is because there are so

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<v Speaker 8>many people in the country that are frustrated with their

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<v Speaker 8>healthcare right, people who are still on the phone waiting

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<v Speaker 8>for hours for a representative to come on and see

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<v Speaker 8>if they can get their claims put through. I think

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<v Speaker 8>all of us have been there where we're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 8>why do I owe so much money for blood work?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, like those are the kinds of things that

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<v Speaker 8>people are, you know, frustrated with their own health care,

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<v Speaker 8>along with their family members, their elderly family members, and

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<v Speaker 8>with people being touched by this. I think that's why

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<v Speaker 8>we're seeing it. But in terms of the backlash against

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<v Speaker 8>Brian Thompson, I mean, he just had his funeral on Monday,

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<v Speaker 8>when the day of the arrest they laid him to rest.

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<v Speaker 8>So he has two kids, he has a wife, he

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<v Speaker 8>has this huge community.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>Whatever the case may be in terms of what he

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<v Speaker 8>was doing at work with the stocks in the trading,

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<v Speaker 8>we don't know. We're digging into all of that. He's

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<v Speaker 8>still a dad who was shot in the back walking

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<v Speaker 8>down fifty fourth right, you know, basically right across the

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<v Speaker 8>street from Radio City Music Hall in New York City.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just it's a crazy story. We haven't seen anything

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<v Speaker 8>like this. The whole idea of ghost guns has been

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<v Speaker 8>something that you and I and everybody else in the

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<v Speaker 8>media have been reporting on for years and years, and

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<v Speaker 8>here we have a real life example of something that

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<v Speaker 8>couldn't be traced in the moment. The NYPD had a

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<v Speaker 8>press conference yesterday where they did confirm that the gun

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<v Speaker 8>that was found on Luigi does match the shellcasing that

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<v Speaker 8>were found on the sidewalk on fifty fourth Street where

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<v Speaker 8>Brian Thompson was executed.

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<v Speaker 3>You make a good point there, and it was interesting

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<v Speaker 3>last week when this happened to see the different networks

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<v Speaker 3>and TV stations that are so co located. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they're right there for some of them, literally a block

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<v Speaker 3>or two away from where the murder happened. And that

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the reasons why it got the immediate

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<v Speaker 3>widespread coverage that it did.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely. I mean you right down the street from NBC,

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<v Speaker 8>right down the street from Fox where I used to work,

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<v Speaker 8>and you know everybody is right there. CBS is down

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<v Speaker 8>the road as well, and this happened right across from

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<v Speaker 8>the Zigfield Theater. I mean, I keep throwing out these

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<v Speaker 8>landmark names because I mean, I guess, I guess it

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<v Speaker 8>wouldn't matter where it was in Manhattan, but just the

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<v Speaker 8>fact that it was in Midtown during the same time

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<v Speaker 8>that the Rockefeller Christmas Tree was being lit, and so

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<v Speaker 8>many families. I mean, I was trying to stop and

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<v Speaker 8>talk to people. Did you hear it? Did you see anything?

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<v Speaker 8>Would you think? Do you feel safe? You know, because

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<v Speaker 8>at that point went right after it happened, we had

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<v Speaker 8>a gunman on the loose in New York City. Now, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 8>there's a gunman on the loose every day in New

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<v Speaker 8>York City right well, the way are the others, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>there's many and there's many things that and then we

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<v Speaker 8>had Daniel Penny's verdict coming and the threat of riots happening.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it was just it was such a crazy

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<v Speaker 8>week and we're still reeling from it, as per example

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<v Speaker 8>with these wanted posters. But back to your point about Midtown, Gary,

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<v Speaker 8>is that everybody I talked to I stopped to talk to.

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<v Speaker 8>I actually didn't run into a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 8>spoke English because there are so many tourists in Midtown

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<v Speaker 8>right now coming to see the tree and all the

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<v Speaker 8>festive lights, in Central Park and take their buggy ride

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<v Speaker 8>with the horses. So there's just a lot of just

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<v Speaker 8>double the amount of people in New York City right now.

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<v Speaker 8>Many people worried but unfazed, going about their business. Kind

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<v Speaker 8>of a what are you going to do? Sort of

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<v Speaker 8>a vibe as we're moving through. But now that he's

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<v Speaker 8>in custody, there's a sense of relief, unless you're a

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<v Speaker 8>CEO of a health company and you've got your face

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<v Speaker 8>plastered on.

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<v Speaker 2>The light pole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's weird to think of a place like New

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<v Speaker 1>York feeling out of control. But for those hours days there,

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<v Speaker 1>that certainly was the vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura Ingle, thank you so much, so nice to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you again.

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<v Speaker 8>You guys are welcome anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me you bet. Laura

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<v Speaker 2>Ingle there with News Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>Up next, Juvenile Hall ordered to shut down, Juvenile Hall

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<v Speaker 3>might not shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's up next.

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