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Speaker 3: And I'm very monochromatic in my emotional diversity.
Speaker 1: And yes, and how that's not good. You got that
Speaker 1: science says, you know, before you make a decision, write
Speaker 1: down three emotions you're feeling, and your decision will be
Speaker 1: less biased that way. And it kind of goes back
Speaker 1: to what happened in France in eighteen sixty three when
Speaker 1: the vineyards were dying because of a parasite and they
Speaker 1: found out that they were only using one type of
Speaker 1: vine or one type of planting of the vine okay,
Speaker 1: and that they needed to diversify all of that in
Speaker 1: order for the vineyards to achieve health again. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what it goes back to, is if you
Speaker 1: have emotional diversity, your better mental health. You're happier. And
Speaker 1: it's not all good emotions. You don't have to have
Speaker 1: all good emotions, but that it makes you more.
Speaker 2: I got to write down three.
Speaker 1: Rounded three, I know, I well, that's what I have.
Speaker 1: It was at that point where I said, what would Gary.
Speaker 2: Write down I would write one.
Speaker 1: They said that one of the things you can do
Speaker 1: to help with that is to expand your vocabulary of
Speaker 1: like emotion.
Speaker 3: My emotional vocabulary. Yeah, okay, well I don't come here
Speaker 3: at nine every morning for therapy, but it sounds like
Speaker 3: that's exactly where I would find that kind of language,
Speaker 3: an emotional my emotional vocabulary.
Speaker 2: What are you feeling right now?
Speaker 3: Frustration and is that an emotion?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? And anticipation and an emotion?
Speaker 2: Is it really yeah? Oh maybe?
Speaker 3: Well maybe I already have the vocabulary. I'm just not
Speaker 3: using it correctly.
Speaker 1: They're in there, You're just not reaching out and grabbing them.
Speaker 3: The emotions that people in New Jersey are feeling right now, frustration, anticipation, fear.
Speaker 2: Maybe good.
Speaker 3: A lot of drones going over the skies in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: We don't know why, although it's been almost three weeks
Speaker 3: now since we started seeing reports of some drones, some
Speaker 3: of them very very large, at least in terms of
Speaker 3: what we think of drones, some as big as minivans
Speaker 3: or cars. New Jersey Congressman Jeff Van Drew started kind
Speaker 3: of a firestorm when he said he has sources I
Speaker 3: don't know where A congressman has sources that he's not
Speaker 3: willing to reveal, but he has sources that suggest this
Speaker 3: is Iran.
Speaker 4: Iran launched them.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Iran.
Speaker 4: Iran launched a mothership, probably about a month ago that
Speaker 4: contains these drones. That mothership is off I'm gonna tell
Speaker 4: you the deal. It's off the east coast of the
Speaker 4: United States of America. They've launched drones. Is everything that
Speaker 4: we can see or hear. And again, these are from
Speaker 4: high sources. I don't say this lightly. Know that Iran
Speaker 4: made a deal with China to purchase drones, mothership and
Speaker 4: technology in order to go forward. The sources I have
Speaker 4: are good. They can't reveal who they are because they
Speaker 4: are speaking to me in confidentiality. These drones should be
Speaker 4: shot down, whether it was some crazy hobbyist that we
Speaker 4: can't imagine, or whether it is Iran, and I think
Speaker 4: it very possibly could be, they should be shot down.
Speaker 4: We are not getting the full deal and the military
Speaker 4: is on alert with it.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the way that you look at me when
Speaker 1: I delve into my conspiracy theories over here in my
Speaker 1: tin hat, he sounds cuckoo pants.
Speaker 2: The sources are very high.
Speaker 1: They can't talk to me, but because they're on Twitter,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, what's his algorithm going
Speaker 1: to reveal to us? Well, it sounds pretty great, cuckoo pants.
Speaker 1: The Pentagon says it's not Iran. This is Sabrina seeing
Speaker 1: one of the Pentagons spokespeople.
Speaker 2: There is not any truth to that.
Speaker 3: There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the
Speaker 3: United States, and there's no so called mothership launching drones
Speaker 3: towards the United State. Okay, now that's from the Department
Speaker 3: of Defense. Okay, if that's the case. If you're saying
Speaker 3: it's not Iran, well that leaves open still eleven other
Speaker 3: possibilities where this is not a good thing for the
Speaker 3: United States of America.
Speaker 1: There have been reports ranging from four to one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty sidings per night. If you and I were
Speaker 1: sitting here right now and we saw a drone out
Speaker 1: the window the size of a van, we would shoot it. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't have any guns with it, or do we do?
Speaker 6: We do?
Speaker 7: We?
Speaker 3: I want folks out there to know we're not listen.
Speaker 7: You're frustrated, so are we.
Speaker 3: But based on everything and we're going to stay at it.
Speaker 2: I promise you this is our top priority.
Speaker 3: That's the governor of the state of New Jersey, who
Speaker 3: does not know what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's the problem that they're not doing anything. They're not
Speaker 1: responding to this. Again, if we saw a drone the
Speaker 1: size of a van, I wouldn't rest until all of
Speaker 1: Burbank police were here firing out it, shooting it down.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 3: The other thing we talked yesterday and the day before
Speaker 3: about this concept of social banditry. When the government or
Speaker 3: the people in power, yes, either don't or appear unable
Speaker 3: to fix a situation, we looked social bandits to take.
Speaker 2: Care of it. Get me Robin Hood.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you someone's going to start peeling off shots.
Speaker 2: At these things. I can't believe it hasn't happened.
Speaker 3: And there was a story last week about a guy.
Speaker 3: I want to say it was down in Florida, because Florida,
Speaker 3: but it was an old guy about seventy years old,
Speaker 3: who started shooting at drones that were around his house.
Speaker 3: In his case, it was a delivery drone, which also
Speaker 3: would scare me. But he shot it out of the
Speaker 3: sky and had to plead to some lesser charge other
Speaker 3: than you know, like discharging a firearm in a neighborhood
Speaker 3: or whatever he got.
Speaker 2: This is going to happen.
Speaker 3: I'm not condoning it, but I'm saying, Hello government, Hello FAA,
Speaker 3: Hello Department of Defense. If you can't tell the people
Speaker 3: of New Jersey what is going on, the people of
Speaker 3: New Jersey are going to react in a potentially violent
Speaker 3: way against these things.
Speaker 2: This is New Jersey after all. Also it's New Jersey.
Speaker 3: This is the mayor of a town called Pequanic, Pequanic, Pequantic,
Speaker 3: the mafia, Ryan Hurd.
Speaker 9: My head is about to explode. Yep, they know nothing.
Speaker 9: This is America. Are you telling me that somebody can
Speaker 9: be flying drones over my town in Pequanic and nobody
Speaker 9: has any idea what's going on? This is unacceptable.
Speaker 2: Now, listens to the show he does.
Speaker 3: There's a great Twilight Zone episode where the power goes out.
Speaker 3: There's rumors of monsters in the next neighborhood over and
Speaker 3: the lack of information was the dangerous part. Because we
Speaker 3: humans are awful, like you said yesterday, We're awful at
Speaker 3: figuring out what's good for us or doing the things
Speaker 3: that are good for us. The things that are good
Speaker 3: for us is as a nation, as a as a people,
Speaker 3: as a neighborhood in Pequanic or wherever you are in
Speaker 3: New Jersey is finding out what this is and fixing
Speaker 3: the problem, solving this mystery. And if that means that
Speaker 3: you have to take some of this, be more aggressive,
Speaker 3: if you will, then that's what the people of New
Speaker 3: Jersey are going to do. Don't shoot down a drone
Speaker 3: in a neighborhood because it's going to fall on somebody,
Speaker 3: or it could, and that's bad.
Speaker 2: But people are going to do that.
Speaker 3: Because the government doesn't do anything about it, or doesn't
Speaker 3: or appears completely inact completely.
Speaker 1: What's worse not doing anything about it, or you can't
Speaker 1: do it, or you're not smart enough to do it,
Speaker 1: or you're too big, the bureaucracy is too large. Bring
Speaker 1: in Elon Musk, bring in.
Speaker 3: The drone vigilantes to take care of this thing.
Speaker 2: I like that, all right?
Speaker 1: Coming up next the Clemency Day for nearly fifteen one
Speaker 1: hundred people, the biggest single day act of clemency in
Speaker 1: modern history.
Speaker 3: Yeah, check your email inbox. You might have gotten a
Speaker 3: pardon today.
Speaker 4: You don't know, Gary advice, Yes, next time, Shannon kind
Speaker 4: of ask you or give you some kind of emotional quiz.
Speaker 1: Advice or whatever.
Speaker 2: Take the bra off, pull your pants off, pull your
Speaker 2: pants off. What get going man?
Speaker 6: Pull up your pants, take off the pawn.
Speaker 5: Be a man.
Speaker 2: I think that's what he was going for. He was like,
Speaker 2: take your pants off. Here, everybody's take your pants off.
Speaker 5: Everybody is jeff an Encino six feet.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking this show, your.
Speaker 5: Show has taken on a little bit of a Dan
Speaker 5: Patrick bent. And technically Dan Patrick isn't associated you because
Speaker 5: he's on your sister station, a sports channel. He refers
Speaker 5: to ESPN as the mother ship. I think ESPN might
Speaker 5: have anything to do with the drones.
Speaker 2: Interesting, it would be interested that.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is a really good association from yesterday. One
Speaker 1: guy calling in with the hype Wait yeah, and then
Speaker 1: capitalizing on the mothership comment in the first segment and
Speaker 1: correlating that and next.
Speaker 3: Level nice guy also in the In the few times
Speaker 3: that we've had any interaction with him.
Speaker 2: We have never had interaction.
Speaker 3: You've talked about meeting him in the elevator. No, yes,
Speaker 3: I know we talked about it.
Speaker 2: No, you're thinking of Colin Coward. Uh, not a nice guy. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I don't know. That's just come on, guys,
Speaker 2: these drones.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're not from Iran or China or anywhere I
Speaker 6: ran in China or whoever. They're not going to.
Speaker 2: Put a big drone up in the air that's flashing
Speaker 2: lights in the middle of the night. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like to hide from everyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're gathering secret information with their flashing lights.
Speaker 2: Get at it with you. It's just some punk exactly, nothing.
Speaker 5: Get excited about.
Speaker 9: They'll arrest him.
Speaker 7: That'll be it.
Speaker 2: Have a nice flight.
Speaker 1: By the way, China and Iran are not going to
Speaker 1: be that conspicuous.
Speaker 2: Don't worry. They're surveilling.
Speaker 1: We just don't see it in the form of a van,
Speaker 1: a drone the size of a van.
Speaker 3: What about the giant spy balloon that floated over this
Speaker 3: United States for eight days?
Speaker 2: And then there was that and we just looked like
Speaker 2: morons watching it. Can you see the balloon? I could
Speaker 2: see the bloom.
Speaker 1: We were too worried about which bathroom a transgender would
Speaker 1: be able to go into. Transgender person, I'm sorry, President Biden.
Speaker 2: Just to get in trouble.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I know you're right. I appreciate that. I was
Speaker 1: just it was just a throwaway line. It wasn't anything
Speaker 1: put any thought into a throwaway person. I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: So now you're you're just getting You're trying to have
Speaker 1: a make good from when you were making fun of
Speaker 1: the Golden Bachelor and he had cancer.
Speaker 2: I know what you're doing. Okay, I see you.
Speaker 1: President Biden announced he's commuting the sentences of some fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred individuals, pardoning thirty nine people convicted of nonviolent crimes,
Speaker 1: huge use, broad use of the presidential clemency power.
Speaker 3: The White House says that this is the biggest single
Speaker 3: day act of clemency in modern history, to which I say,
Speaker 3: are we trying to set records when it comes to
Speaker 3: clemency and pardons because a lot of times, listen, I
Speaker 3: would say, the vast majority of times, well, they're used
Speaker 3: in a way that's acceptable to most people. The problem
Speaker 3: that Biden now has is laid into his presidency.
Speaker 2: He's making these moves.
Speaker 3: That are absolutely eroding whatever legacy he thought he was
Speaker 3: going to get. Remember yesterday we talked about the poll
Speaker 3: that suggested that one in five people approved of him
Speaker 3: pardoning his own son for that massive blanket pardon that
Speaker 3: extends over ten plus years for just about every offense
Speaker 3: to man and God. In this case, most of these
Speaker 3: people were had long sentences. They been placed on home
Speaker 3: confinement during COVID because the jail became a particularly hot
Speaker 3: hot bed of COVID transmission.
Speaker 1: Which is ridiculous because if they had long sentences, they
Speaker 1: did bad things and then they were sent home and
Speaker 1: now they're being allowed to be free with the population.
Speaker 1: If you have a long sentence, a long prison sentence,
Speaker 1: that's not nonviolent.
Speaker 2: They said.
Speaker 3: The White House said that most of the people had
Speaker 3: shown a commitment to rehab and reintegration into their communities. Now,
Speaker 3: the thirty nine people who are being pardon were pardoned
Speaker 3: were also convicted of nonviolent crimes considered to have demonstrated
Speaker 3: records of meaningful, meaningfully giving back to the country. We
Speaker 3: have not yet seen a full list of names of
Speaker 3: the clemency recipients, but you're going to find out that
Speaker 3: some of them are donors, or some of them are
Speaker 3: you know, family members of Congress, people that Joe Biden
Speaker 3: likes or something like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: But the whole nonviolent crime thing is beloney burglary is
Speaker 1: nonviolent crime, robbery, arson, harassment, embezzlement, theft, fraud. Think about
Speaker 1: all the fraud that's gone on and all the fraud
Speaker 1: targeting the elderly. I mean, these are not nonviolent crimes.
Speaker 1: It's not an aggravated rape and murder. But people are
Speaker 1: harmed by these crimes that result in long prison sentences.
Speaker 3: The way the White House puts this out, by the way,
Speaker 3: is they only describe the positives. They don't describe necessarily,
Speaker 3: you don't get a list of what these people were
Speaker 3: in for One of the people pardoned a decorated military
Speaker 3: veteran described as having devoted much of his time to
Speaker 3: helping members of his community. A nurse who helped during
Speaker 3: natural disasters, an addiction counselor recognized for his dedication to
Speaker 3: mentoring young men of color. Again, those are all very
Speaker 3: positive things, but they did very bad things to be
Speaker 3: put in jail for a very long time.
Speaker 2: So it's not you can't just you know.
Speaker 1: And shame on CNN for not sitting down and digging
Speaker 1: around and writing out what And.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in any publication, not.
Speaker 1: Yet really of Yeah, okay, they did good things in incarceration, Well,
Speaker 1: what they do to get inside. Don't you think as
Speaker 1: a public we have a right to know that too.
Speaker 1: It's inaccurate, it's in complete reporting.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Joe Moldonado as asking President to elect Trump
Speaker 3: to use his powers once he gets back into office.
Speaker 1: I think he'll do this. This is this is Joe exotic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he'll do this because that's that's a good,
Speaker 1: nice little headline. That's a nice little splash. That's something
Speaker 1: Trump would like to do.
Speaker 3: He's sentenced to twenty two years in prison. He appealed
Speaker 3: and got it reduced to twenty one years.
Speaker 2: Who didn't want to kill Carol Baskin?
Speaker 3: Killing tigers, selling tiger cubs, falsifying records, those are the.
Speaker 1: Things he's not trying to kill her, No, got it?
Speaker 1: Carol Baskin f and Carol Baskin.
Speaker 3: Up next, the latest on the United Healthcare CEO murder.
Speaker 1: So I read this article this morning actually out of MPR,
Speaker 1: and it was to your point.
Speaker 2: That you made yesterday.
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, this was a shooter who railed against
Speaker 1: the healthcare industry. But he's missing a big thing. He
Speaker 1: talks about life expectancy and how our life expectancy is
Speaker 1: relatively a low for what we pay for healthcare compared
Speaker 1: to other countries. But then they drill down on why
Speaker 1: that is, and it's not because of our healthcare system.
Speaker 2: It's because of the way that we take care of ourselves.
Speaker 3: It feels like we're moving towards a weird reckoning when
Speaker 3: it comes.
Speaker 1: To healthcare, and I go back and forth because no
Speaker 1: one wants to hear it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: No one wants to hear it.
Speaker 3: One of the most compelling moves in college football we've
Speaker 3: seen in a long time. Bill Belichick is the new
Speaker 3: head coach at North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I haven't dug into this enough to understand all of
Speaker 1: this decision, but.
Speaker 3: It's well, he clearly likes being around college age people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Girlfriend is fiveteen. Yeah. But they approved it last night,
Speaker 3: I suppose North Carolina officials. So they agreed to a
Speaker 3: five year deal. The board of trustees had to hold
Speaker 3: an emergency meeting this morning to approve this contract. Al
Speaker 3: Michaels is going to come back to Thursday Night Football
Speaker 3: next year with Amazon Prime. He's seventy seven years old.
Speaker 3: He was his current contract. He gets about fifteen million
Speaker 3: a year from Amazon. They haven't said how much this
Speaker 3: one's worth, but that it's probably going to be a
Speaker 3: year by year. Tonight's Thursday Night football game on Amazon
Speaker 3: is rams forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that.
Speaker 6: Hey, Garay Shannon six foot one to twenty on graduating
Speaker 6: Eagle Rock High School circa nineteen eighty three. I'm currently
Speaker 6: working at LB twenty four doing a long shore work. Yeah,
Speaker 6: containers eleven and I forgot why I even called Oh yeah, drums, Yeah,
Speaker 6: those drums. When people are worried about the old What
Speaker 6: about the TikTok? The China's staling all our information? Just
Speaker 6: on that alone? Us is that every damn day.
Speaker 1: The TikTok, TikTok, the drones and the TikTok and the
Speaker 1: cam trails.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about the chemtrails. TikTok may be
Speaker 2: shut down though, right, Yeah, why can't we shut down
Speaker 2: these drones?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Hi, Gary and Shannon. Been listening to you guys
Speaker 7: for a long time. I actually live in northern New Jersey.
Speaker 7: We see these drones every night over our neighborhoods, over
Speaker 7: our homes. They move around in clusters. They are enormous.
Speaker 7: They are not hobby drones that you pick up at
Speaker 7: the local Best Buy. These are very expensive pieces of equipment,
Speaker 7: and they are frightening.
Speaker 3: And again, I don't quite understand why people aren't taking
Speaker 3: shots at these things.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they've been able to do this
Speaker 1: for weeks four to one hundred and eighty sidings a
Speaker 1: night night.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, in the wake of the killing of the United
Speaker 1: Healthcare CEO, there's been a lot of talk online and
Speaker 1: elsewhere about the dysfunctional health care industry in this country.
Speaker 1: And while they say it is true, it is uniquely
Speaker 1: costly and frustrating. There is a reason our life expectancy
Speaker 1: trails many comparable nations. The Centers for Disease Control and
Speaker 1: Prevention's latest calculations put our life expectancy in America at
Speaker 1: seventy seven and a half years. That's far below the
Speaker 1: average life expectancy for other high income countries, which is
Speaker 1: eighty years. They say, well, problems with health care access
Speaker 1: cause suffering. Healthcare is not the main factor behind poor
Speaker 1: life expectancy. This is according to doctor Stephen Wolf. He's
Speaker 1: the doctor Emeritus at the Center on Society and Health
Speaker 1: at Virginia Commonwealth. He says research shows at about ten to
Speaker 1: twenty percent of health outcomes are attributable to.
Speaker 2: Health care, which is bad. That's bad.
Speaker 3: It is bad, But that's not what drives that lower
Speaker 3: life expectancy in the United States. They actually point to
Speaker 3: a couple of things. One of them, they say, is
Speaker 3: the fact that firearms are so available in the United States.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's the NPR slant, right right, they just
Speaker 1: like to wedge it into everything. But okay, fine, we'll
Speaker 1: throw it in. But it's also us and our inability
Speaker 1: to take care of ourselves. It's the food industry.
Speaker 3: It's physical inactivity, it's child poverty, it's air pollution, it's
Speaker 3: traffic fatalities. It's the fact that we are fat beyond
Speaker 3: fat and that causes massive secondary problems.
Speaker 1: And pharmaceuticals and pharmacutssed with pill popping.
Speaker 2: Well think of listen.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I have seen in the
Speaker 3: conversations about RFK Junior becoming the head of Health and
Speaker 3: Human Services and the fear that he brings because he
Speaker 3: was a he was a heroin user for a long time,
Speaker 3: or he has crazy ideas that vaccine should be tested
Speaker 3: before they're put into kids, or you know, the wackiness
Speaker 3: that he is, But he's asking questions that need to
Speaker 3: be asked that we have ignored for a very long time,
Speaker 3: and it seems like there is a push. This isn't
Speaker 3: just like the health food push of the eighties, which
Speaker 3: was take sugar out of everything, make everything low fat,
Speaker 3: regardless of what you have to do to make it
Speaker 3: low fat or low sugar. Something like that, which is
Speaker 3: pump in other chemicals that are going to be just
Speaker 3: as bad or worse for you than a full fat
Speaker 3: yogurt or a coke with sugar in it, or whatever
Speaker 3: it is. He's asking the questions of why did we change,
Speaker 3: What was it about the late seventies early eighties that
Speaker 3: changed about our food that then had an impact in
Speaker 3: our health care costs? And why are we fatter and
Speaker 3: less healthy now than we've ever been despite the fact
Speaker 3: that there's such a huge push for physical fitness and
Speaker 3: healthy eating and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: We were able to regulate the tobacco industry, right, which
Speaker 1: is why they pivoted into the get you hooked on
Speaker 1: food industry. We need to take the same things we
Speaker 1: did to the tobacco industry and do that to the
Speaker 1: food industry. They're not trying to just make lovable foods
Speaker 1: and food tasting good. They're trying to get you addicted.
Speaker 1: Trying to get you addicted. This is not a good thing. Well,
Speaker 1: and to your point about the heroin deal, anybody who
Speaker 1: gets hooked on heroin and is able to get themselves unhooked,
Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to well, because that's a powerful
Speaker 1: thing to unhook yourself from what drove you into that
Speaker 1: addiction and then what did you learn about your addiction
Speaker 1: where you were able to pull yourself out of that
Speaker 1: or I mean, if you've got help, that's great too,
Speaker 1: all equal to me.
Speaker 3: And one of the things that caused me to start
Speaker 3: listening to this sort of thing, at least in terms
Speaker 3: of what the government says about things like obesity. I
Speaker 3: don't want to pick on people who are overweight, that's
Speaker 3: not what this is. But one of the opportunities they
Speaker 3: had to really drive home the message of you need
Speaker 3: to stay in shape, you need to take care of yourself,
Speaker 3: watch what you eat, was during COVID and they refuse
Speaker 3: to do that. The government by and large refused to
Speaker 3: say keeping yourself generally healthier, making yourself healthier could be
Speaker 3: a huge help in fighting COVID, and they refuse to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: And they could have said, take this time that you're
Speaker 1: at home to learn how to eat clean.
Speaker 3: Here's today's exercise of the day. Here's a new thing
Speaker 3: we're going to try, or here's a success story. Barbara's
Speaker 3: been stuck in her house for six weeks, but she's
Speaker 3: lost twelve pounds because we were.
Speaker 1: Like making our own bread and just eating at home.
Speaker 1: I remember when I were still healthier. Yeah, it was healthier.
Speaker 1: But then I remember like going back out into the
Speaker 1: wild after the lockdown was lifted or the you know,
Speaker 1: you started to get takeout and stuff like that. How
Speaker 1: different everything tasted just from eating clean for like a
Speaker 1: month or two. How you were able to realize that's
Speaker 1: not what food should tastes like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they didn't do that.
Speaker 1: They didn't say, take this opportunity to let's go back
Speaker 1: to our let's go back to the building blocks of
Speaker 1: how we eat and just cut out all that process stuff,
Speaker 1: cut all out all the stuff that's in the middle
Speaker 1: of the grocery store.
Speaker 3: Joining us now for more on an aspect of that
Speaker 3: story is Laura Ingle from News Nation. Once of our
Speaker 3: Own KFI and Laura in New York, we've seen some
Speaker 3: wanted posters going up with the healthcare CEOs.
Speaker 2: That's kind of scary.
Speaker 8: Hey guys, Yeah, this has been crazy. It seems like
Speaker 8: every day, and I've said this before, we've got new developments.
Speaker 8: In this case, yesterday, these wanted those good old fashioned
Speaker 8: kind of wanted posters showed up in Lower Manhattan if
Speaker 8: you know Manhattan, it was down by Canal Street and
Speaker 8: in that general area by where there's a lot of
Speaker 8: metro trains. Obviously, we've seen a lot of online backlash
Speaker 8: four with these types of stories, but the reaction to
Speaker 8: Brian Thompson's murder last week has really taken things to
Speaker 8: this whole new level because it's no longer just online,
Speaker 8: which we've been reporting on, but now it's showing up
Speaker 8: physically on these posters that have been plastered around Manhattan,
Speaker 8: and the NYPD issuing a new bulletin. They're taking it
Speaker 8: so seriously, warning of what they're calling a heightened risk
Speaker 8: environment for healthcare executives because of these not only viral
Speaker 8: posts on social media, but on these wanted posters, and
Speaker 8: these posters feature the faces of insurance executives and the
Speaker 8: scary one is the one that has Brian Thompson's photo
Speaker 8: has a big red X through it, like, we're done
Speaker 8: with this person. So now you mentioned Luigi, He's in custody,
Speaker 8: So who is it that's putting up these wanted posters?
Speaker 8: And a lot of people have also wondered about who
Speaker 8: he was on the phone with, did he have an accomplice?
Speaker 8: I still can't get over the differences in the eyebrows
Speaker 8: of the man we saw in Starbucks and the man
Speaker 8: we saw in cab If you look at the distance
Speaker 8: between the two eyebrows, it's pretty significant. Is it the
Speaker 8: same person? So those are some of the things that
Speaker 8: people are looking into right now and comparing. But the
Speaker 8: wanted posters is just a whole new level of ick
Speaker 8: when it comes to this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen and maybe I haven't been paying
Speaker 1: enough attention, Laura, but I have never seen such a
Speaker 1: wide breath of amateur sleuthing on social media over a
Speaker 1: news story. It just seems like it has touched a
Speaker 1: larger swath of people that are commenting and digging into
Speaker 1: what this all means and all of it.
Speaker 8: I agree with you, and I think one of the
Speaker 8: reasons why we're seeing that is because there are so
Speaker 8: many people in the country that are frustrated with their
Speaker 8: healthcare right, people who are still on the phone waiting
Speaker 8: for hours for a representative to come on and see
Speaker 8: if they can get their claims put through. I think
Speaker 8: all of us have been there where we're like, wait,
Speaker 8: why do I owe so much money for blood work?
Speaker 8: You know, like those are the kinds of things that
Speaker 8: people are, you know, frustrated with their own health care,
Speaker 8: along with their family members, their elderly family members, and
Speaker 8: with people being touched by this. I think that's why
Speaker 8: we're seeing it. But in terms of the backlash against
Speaker 8: Brian Thompson, I mean, he just had his funeral on Monday,
Speaker 8: when the day of the arrest they laid him to rest.
Speaker 8: So he has two kids, he has a wife, he
Speaker 8: has this huge community.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 8: Whatever the case may be in terms of what he
Speaker 8: was doing at work with the stocks in the trading,
Speaker 8: we don't know. We're digging into all of that. He's
Speaker 8: still a dad who was shot in the back walking
Speaker 8: down fifty fourth right, you know, basically right across the
Speaker 8: street from Radio City Music Hall in New York City.
Speaker 8: It's just it's a crazy story. We haven't seen anything
Speaker 8: like this. The whole idea of ghost guns has been
Speaker 8: something that you and I and everybody else in the
Speaker 8: media have been reporting on for years and years, and
Speaker 8: here we have a real life example of something that
Speaker 8: couldn't be traced in the moment. The NYPD had a
Speaker 8: press conference yesterday where they did confirm that the gun
Speaker 8: that was found on Luigi does match the shellcasing that
Speaker 8: were found on the sidewalk on fifty fourth Street where
Speaker 8: Brian Thompson was executed.
Speaker 3: You make a good point there, and it was interesting
Speaker 3: last week when this happened to see the different networks
Speaker 3: and TV stations that are so co located. I mean
Speaker 3: they're right there for some of them, literally a block
Speaker 3: or two away from where the murder happened. And that
Speaker 3: was one of the reasons why it got the immediate
Speaker 3: widespread coverage that it did.
Speaker 8: Absolutely. I mean you right down the street from NBC,
Speaker 8: right down the street from Fox where I used to work,
Speaker 8: and you know everybody is right there. CBS is down
Speaker 8: the road as well, and this happened right across from
Speaker 8: the Zigfield Theater. I mean, I keep throwing out these
Speaker 8: landmark names because I mean, I guess, I guess it
Speaker 8: wouldn't matter where it was in Manhattan, but just the
Speaker 8: fact that it was in Midtown during the same time
Speaker 8: that the Rockefeller Christmas Tree was being lit, and so
Speaker 8: many families. I mean, I was trying to stop and
Speaker 8: talk to people. Did you hear it? Did you see anything?
Speaker 8: Would you think? Do you feel safe? You know, because
Speaker 8: at that point went right after it happened, we had
Speaker 8: a gunman on the loose in New York City. Now, unfortunately,
Speaker 8: there's a gunman on the loose every day in New
Speaker 8: York City right well, the way are the others, but yeah,
Speaker 8: there's many and there's many things that and then we
Speaker 8: had Daniel Penny's verdict coming and the threat of riots happening.
Speaker 8: I mean, it was just it was such a crazy
Speaker 8: week and we're still reeling from it, as per example
Speaker 8: with these wanted posters. But back to your point about Midtown, Gary,
Speaker 8: is that everybody I talked to I stopped to talk to.
Speaker 8: I actually didn't run into a lot of people that
Speaker 8: spoke English because there are so many tourists in Midtown
Speaker 8: right now coming to see the tree and all the
Speaker 8: festive lights, in Central Park and take their buggy ride
Speaker 8: with the horses. So there's just a lot of just
Speaker 8: double the amount of people in New York City right now.
Speaker 8: Many people worried but unfazed, going about their business. Kind
Speaker 8: of a what are you going to do? Sort of
Speaker 8: a vibe as we're moving through. But now that he's
Speaker 8: in custody, there's a sense of relief, unless you're a
Speaker 8: CEO of a health company and you've got your face
Speaker 8: plastered on.
Speaker 2: The light pole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird to think of a place like New
Speaker 1: York feeling out of control. But for those hours days there,
Speaker 1: that certainly was the vibe.
Speaker 2: Laura Ingle, thank you so much, so nice to hear
Speaker 2: from you again.
Speaker 8: You guys are welcome anytime.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me you bet. Laura
Speaker 2: Ingle there with News Nation.
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