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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome in everybody. It is Tuesday. It's time

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for full court press. We're here to talk Sweet sixteen NIT.

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We missed you guys yesterday. I didn't know what to

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do with myself with no show and no games to

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bet on. I made about twelve pages of Major League

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Baseball notes, and you know what, that's not fun. Talking

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about games and then betting them is the fun part.

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So I am glad that we've got some of that

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to do today. Matt Winnick is back with us, and

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we actually do have somewhat of a structure the next

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couple of days. So just quick programming note before I

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bring Matt in. Today, We're gonna do the East region

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for the Sweet sixteen and the entire NIT. Tomorrow we're

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going to do the rest of the Sweet sixteen. We

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will also have our first Total Basis show tomorrow, so

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I'll be back at nine am with Brian Leonard and

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Tokyo Brandon. We'll do our first Total Bases which will

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be at nine every single day basically from now for

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the foreseeable future. And then we will also, like I said, tomorrow,

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we will also have the second half of the Sweet sixteen,

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so we love having you guys in the chat.

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Speaker 2: Jump in the jump in the chat. Let us know

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what you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: If you have like questions just about like general stuff,

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certainly drop them in there. But don't worry about asking

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for games because we're gonna hit every single game over

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the course of the next two days. So, without further ado,

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Matt Winnick, welcome in. How is your weekend? I saw

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you killing it with projections on Twitter all weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a fun weekend. It was a tiring weekend.

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Need to ketch up on sleep, but that's also just

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like from November, so I have lots of hours to rebank.

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But yeah, great hoops, fun hoops. And then like we

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kind of saved the best for last with the whole

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Iowa Florida stuff down the stretch on Sunday. Was was

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awesome that I did get wrong, but still a lot

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of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if you are not following on Twitter, you absolutely

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should be. He he tweeted out, Well, he tweets all

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this stuff out for free because Twitter is free. And

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there was a stretch mat where I think you had

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like almost nailed the exact score on like three or

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four straight games.

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Speaker 2: Am I like, did I am I accurate on saying that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at least I mean on Saturday, I

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think nine of the sixteen games were within three points.

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That was That was That was fun. That was a

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good little run there.

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Speaker 1: I wish I was blindly betting your projections because I

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did not have the best weekend in college hoop.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the only thing I bet this weekend.

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Speaker 1: So not the best weekend for me, But I was

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coming off of like such a massive championship week and man,

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the NCAA Tournament, it's it is just a tough you

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just hope to survive at that point. And UCLA getting

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back door it on Friday was was sort of the

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you know, kind of like turned my luck a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But I hope it's coming back.

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Speaker 1: In the other direction because on Sunday night, I had

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the Saint Joe's Hawk, who had one of the uh

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you know, maybe one of the the comebacks of the weekend.

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That that went relatively unnoticed because they put the n

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I T up against all of the biggest march madness

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games of the of the week. So we're gonna get

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to the n T in just a minute, and we're

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gonna hit all four n T games today, but we've

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got to give the you know, we've got to give

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the home office something to clip here. And so my

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trade off for doing an entire show on the n

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T was to do the biggest region of the Sweet

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sixteen today. And there's no bigger region, there's no hotter

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ticket Matt than the East Region down in Washington, d C.

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Where you get Saint John's, Duke, Michigan State, and Yukon.

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Speaker 2: So if you are going to that, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to you, because that is going to be

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as good of a doubleheader as you could ask for

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for the Sweet sixteen. Capitol Wan Arena might make all

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their revenue back from No One going to Georgetown games

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in one shot, because that should be a hot ticket that.

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Let's start with Duke Saint John's the first, uh, you know,

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the first of those matchups on Friday night. This will

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be the last time I probably get to bring it

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up this year. The st the Sienna Saints had had

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Duke on the Ropes thirteen point lead in the second

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half and and Duke turned it around.

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Speaker 2: They came back, they won that game.

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Speaker 1: The following game, I guess I guess everyone just had

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Duke to win in a blowout, which they eventually did.

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and I think they did a lot of that with

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their ball pressure and their guards really sort of pressuring Duke.

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has here is to ramp the pressure up to an

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eleven out of ten and and turn defense into off

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and something that we talked about, you know, sort of

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ahead of the Kansas game, that I talked about with

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Kelly Stewart over the weekend on last call. So talk

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to me, Duke Saint John's. Do you see Saint John's

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Speaker 3: Oh, they definitely they have a chance. Both of these teams.

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It's going to come done to one main thing. And

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for Duke, it's very very simply, if you don't have

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Caleb Foster, which seems highly likely here, your only true

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point guard is Caden Boozer, and you are getting forty

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minutes of press from Saint John's. And if Caden Boozer

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is alone dealing with Saint John's press, which Kansas couldn't

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do as a group, then Duke is in big trouble.

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Because their secondary ballhandler is Cameron Boozer, and Cameron Boozer

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is so important to their offense and scoring the basketball,

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you cannot have him bring the ball up every First

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of all, it's not a true point guard. And second

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of all, it's gonna exhaust it. He's going to be exhausted.

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Who is the secondary ballhandler bringing the ball up on

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the presper Due? I don't have an answer. All of

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their other guards are not ball handling guards. Isaiah Evans,

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Don sar Nick Kamena all have an under ten percent

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of sister. They are not there to handle the basketball

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at all. And Kidden Boozer has been fine, but he

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he is not the guy you want for forty minutes

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handling Saint John's pressure. That said, you can only set

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up that pressure if you score the ball, and Saint

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John's is gonna have issues putting the ball in the basket.

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Duke is going to do exactly what Kansas did. Defensively.

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they're going to say we don't think you can shoot

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shoot the basketball. Because the Duke already allows a really

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high three point rate. It's very hard to get inside

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against this team. And Saint John's almost lost to Kansas

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and Bryce Hopkins had the best three point shooting game

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of his entire life, which is not gonna happen again.

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So Saint John's has to actually hit those threes with

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Ian Jackson, with Joson Sandon, with Dylan Darlin, who all

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were ice cold from deep. And Saint John's is not

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going to get as many offensive rebounding offensive rebounds against

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Duke as they did against Kansas. So the question is

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can Duke handle the pressure but cant and Saint John's

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make enough shots to be able to actually apply the pressure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it that is I think you sort of

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nailed it. So from a from a just trying to

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you know, sort of handicapped spread here, my number comes

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out Duke minus six point oh one, so so slightly

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shaded to the underdog, and assuming everyone is healthy, I

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think for me that what would put me on Saint

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John's would be if if I could sort of get

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wind of, like Duke being less healthy, healthy than they're

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letting on. That being said, you know, it does seem

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like they're sort of coming into this week in a

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much better situation than they were last week from a

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health standpoint. So I don't know if i'll you know,

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it feels like they're rolling into this game mostly healthy.

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Have you heard anything different or is that kind of

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how you're like approaching it.

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Speaker 3: Well, they're probably were not going to have killed Foster.

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pat Gonga back, but he just looked so so not healthy,

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and like maybe is in five days he'll play, but

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it does not seem like he's going to be the

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pat Gong but that he's been all year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's that's a really interesting point because you know,

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I did read some things like maybe you know, maybe

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Foster would would give it a go, and it's like,

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and how many I think Gonga played what thirteen minutes

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against TCU. Yeah, I mean if that, if that, if

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that ends up being the same, which I guess I

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was in my head. I'm like, Okay, well, well there's

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a lot of time now till Friday. But you know,

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we've seen some we it's almost like we've seen does

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every team, like want to downplay their injury. It almost

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seems like every team wants to downplay their injuries. I mean,

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Bill Adue never steps foot on the floor for UCLA.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll talk about that in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But if that's what's happening here for Duke, I think

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just with the respect that like, I do think their

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physicality can give Duke a hard time, and and defense

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and and just having like a good defensive game plan

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but also being able to just out sort of tough

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them is probably how you're gonna beat Duke. I mean,

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it was definitely you know, Sianna's plan was just play

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a certain type of defense and prey threes don't go in,

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which they kind of, you know, got that that that

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Speaker 2: Working for them.

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Speaker 1: TCU guard pressure, which is basically what they've done all year.

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But Duke had of a very efficient and like amazing

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offensive second half to blow that one open. So yeah,

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I kind of think Saint John's can be in this

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if they just can can clean up the glass on

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both ends of the floor and force turnovers they have

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to force uh do they have to turn Duke over

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or they're gonna get My concern for the Johnnies because again,

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this is the side I would prefer to be on

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here against the number is that Duke gets them int

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like half court offense and they can't run half court offense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is like, they forced Kansas into

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sixteen turnovers, but only seven of those sixteen turnovers were

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live ball turnovers. The other nine were dead ball turnovers

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and a dead ball turnover. While it's still a turnover

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and fantastic, it's still leading the half court offense. And

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I still don't think Saint John's is going to get

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much transition offense at all. They'll get a couple of

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those steals in the front court and be able to

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go right up with it, but Duke is as good

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of a transition denial as there is in the country,

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and so this is still going to be a half

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court affair. And yeah, Saint John's will pressure Duke, and

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Saint John's will be physical against Duke, but inevitably that

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only works if they can score in the half court,

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and they just could not against Kansas, and Duke's and

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even better defense than Kansas's. So what you're saying is true,

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but it only matters if they can actually score the

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Beast catball and Zubi edge four is gonna have to

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be a big part of that. Malik Brown is as

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good of a defender as there is in the country,

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but he does foul a ton and Saint John's is

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able to get Floria Badonga in early foul trouble. If

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Malik Brown's in early foul trouble and Pat Gonglas still

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like playing at thirty percent like it seemed like he

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did against TCU, that's where Duke is probably in bigger

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trouble defensively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll pretty much the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: I think you could just about say that's about any

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game like it's it's going to be very interesting and

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there's probably cases to be made for both sides. We're

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just at that point of the year where you know

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the lines are going to be tight, there's probably a

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case to be made for both sides. There's probably a

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path to victory for both teams, and so for me personally,

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the health of those Duke players, because I do think

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that gives Saint John's just enough of an edge against

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the Number to justify that, you know, taking the points there.

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already sort of brought it up, I would say for me,

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one of the most disappointing things of the entire first

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weekend was the fact that we didn't get a full

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strength to Ucla against Yukon. I it was a spot

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that I sort of had circled as soon as the

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bracket came out. Fortunately, because Bill Do was ruled out,

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I didn't even have action there. I didn't bet it,

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but I would have loved to see Ucla at full

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strength in that game.

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Speaker 2: I think Yukon would have would have likely went home

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if that was a case.

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Speaker 1: That being said, Matt, Yukon looked pretty good in that

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second half against Ucla.

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Speaker 2: They didn't look great against Furman.

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Speaker 1: I've I've been sort of anti Yukon, especially against the Number,

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over the past couple of weeks. I think I've sort

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of got that right. Got destroyed by Saint John's in

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the Big East final. Lost you know, had a loss

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to to Marquette down the stretch weren't great against the number.

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But you know, I start to look at this matchup.

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I start to look at this game and I'm kind

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of I guess I'm not surprised where the fact that

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like my number likes Yukon. Here, I'm closer to like

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three and a half with Yukon being a favorite, and

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I'm just I, you know, I talk, is there any

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way to talk myself into Michigan State, because you know what,

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I I love to I want to like this Michigan

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State team here because I want to fade Yukon. But

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my concern is they don't get any transition and they

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don't shoot the way they did against Louisville. That was

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my one bright spot over the weekend, Matt. I had

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Michigan State minus the points, and I gotta be honest,

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I'm sitting there waiting for Louisville to come take that

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from me, and every time.

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Speaker 2: They were gonna do it, Michigan State hit a three.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how realistic that is to think that

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they can do that against Yukon or against really anyone

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for that matter.

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Speaker 2: So Yukon, Michigan State, how are you seeing this one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I had both of these teams, Michigan State and

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Yukon minus the points over the weekend, and both of

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them came through for me pretty easily. Quite honestly. The

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thing with Yukon is it's the way that they play defense.

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to be able to score against them or not. And

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the reason why I took Yukon is because UCLA was

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a very bad matchup to try to score against Yukon's defense. Essentially,

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Yukon does as good of a job as anyone in

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the country at preventing catch and shoot threes. You cannot

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swing the ball against this team, and they're going to

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play drop coverage and make you dribble into their defense.

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There's two ways to play that style of defense. Either

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you keep your big man low, which makes you have

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to shoot floaters and pull up jumpers oversize, which is

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what a lot of teams do. North Carolina with Henry

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VStar is a very classic example of that. Or you

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play your big man high, let the ball handler so

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to speak, get in front of the big man, and

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then you recover and block the shot. Call a rim

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funnel drop coverage, and that's exactly what yukonducts. They had

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five blocks in that game against UCLA. Ucla shot a

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ton of twos, thirty six twos to thirteen threes, but

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they only shot thirty nine percent on those twos because

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their guards are small and not that athletic, and if

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you get Donovan Dent going downhill, Terris Reid will say,

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get that garbage out of here. Michigan State's the exact

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same way. They don't get to the rim. They're three

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hundred and forty sixth in average two point distance per Kenpom.

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Their shots are all floaters, their shots are all post ups,

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their shots are all hooks. They're not getting to the

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rim and finishing over length and size. That is a

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disaster against Yukon because Yukon is going to make Jeremy Fears,

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who is the best passer in the sport, play isolation ball.

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They're gonna make him get downhill and they're gonna make

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him finish over length, and you don't want that. If

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you're Michigan State, you want to run your sets. You

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don't want to be you know, pressured, you don't you

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want to play ball movement back, Well, these are Michigan

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State second in the country. In the sistry and Yukon

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is seventh in a sistray. Michigan State lets you run action,

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Yukon does not let you run action. And then two

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teams that run some of the prettiest offenses in the sport.

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You have to favor the team that will actually be

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able to run their stuff, and that is Yukon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the more I I sort of look at this game,

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the more Yukon makes a ton of sense here.

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Speaker 2: And you know, as a as a sports better.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, like, you know, we don't care who were We

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just want who we're on in that given game to win.

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So like, I don't just because I was anti Yukon

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for a couple of weeks does not mean that I

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wouldn't happily take them here, you know.

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 1: I just felt like they kind of came in for

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a stretch they were very overrated in the market, and

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then I see this number open one, and I'm like, man, like,

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it almost feels like like surprisingly they're undervalued, and I

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just don't I couldn't really understand why, but maybe it's

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you know, Michigan State look very impressive first weekend, like

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destroyed North Dakota State. I think the final score, like

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you were even saying, well, we kind of got there

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relatively easily with Michigan State, but like Louisville, their interior

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defense is awful, a disaster, and Michigan could not or

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Michigan State could not get close to the rim in

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that game. Like I said, I feel like I you know,

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I was waiting to get back door by Louisville and

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then code car would hit a three in front of

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his bench, Like you can't rely on that. Michigan State

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in that game, Matt eleven for twenty six from three,

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Like are they going to come out and just hit

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eleven threes against Yukon? And the problem is for me,

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it's like a lot of those threes came off of

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like kind of like a decent transition opportunity that like

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Louisville was able to maybe not let them get to

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the rim a on a like a rim run like

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for a lay up, but they get a kickout and

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suddenly someone was open there to hit a three, which

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which they hit. If they don't get that against Yukon,

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I'd be very very surprised if they win.

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Speaker 3: So, actually they're not going to get that, right, you

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want to stay that off of that point, off of

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what you're saying with the way that Michigan State's probably

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not sustainable from deep and they're gonna have to score

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inside the art. Michigan State's twenty two and oh, and

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they shoot above fifty percent from two point range and

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they're five and seven when they shoot below it. Yukon

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is twelfth in the country and two point defense at

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forty five point seven percent, So more than likely they're

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going to be below fifty percent where they are five and seven,

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and not above fifty percent where they're twenty two.

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Speaker 1: And Yeah, I mean, listen, if you if you can

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get Yukon at a essentially a pick without having to

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lay point, that's probably a pretty good bet that that's one.

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When we get off the show, I'll have to think

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long and hard about adding that.

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Speaker 3: I think that was I got that for you before

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we move. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, Non Alex Caraban Yukon

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Huskies in the last three games, I tweeted this out,

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so this is why you want to follow on Twitter.

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Non Alex Caraban Yukon Huskies in the last three games

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from deep are seven of forty six. That is fifteen

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point two percent. So Yukon is laying these games with

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everyone other than Alex Caraban being horrific from beyond the arc.

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If they are even below average from beyond the arc,

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this is going to be a very hard team to beat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, winning games, and I mean they ended up in

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the end winning comfortably against you know, against a UCLA

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team that, even without Billy Do I still thought was

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a what was a pretty solid team, Like I thought

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they had a chance there and that was a really

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you know, pretty solid second half from Yukon. I you know,

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it's again, I shouldn't make statements about teams before the

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bracket comes out, Like I was, like, you know, I think.

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Speaker 3: Yukon's, like PROBA be overrated too. But I'm just I

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think when there's a clear matchup situation with the team,

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then like I'm going to take that over my value

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in the power of rankings either any day, any.

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Speaker 1: Day, Yeah there, yeah, no, I totally am with you

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there And sorry, I just looked out a Twitter to

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see the with love Jerry McNamara tweet that we knew

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was coming he will be the next head coach of

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Syracuse basketball, which I live. I mean, I live thirty

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minutes from the Dome, so I can't be I can't

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be too.

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Speaker 2: Upset about that.

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Speaker 1: He also brought Sianna to a tournament, so shout out

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to g MAC and Syracuse fans. I think it's I

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hope it works out because he's such a legendier Matt

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that if it doesn't work out, that's going to be

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really sad. I mean, he's like, it's not going to

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be the same as Autrey not working out. No one

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really cares about him in these parts. G Mac is

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everyone's like childhood hero if you're my age. So hopefully

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it works out for Ques and we'll see who Sienna

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gets as a head coach. But just to go back

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to the chat for a second, so we will have

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the parlay. So here's what we're gonna do today. The

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parlay will be n IT games either today or tomorrow,

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So all all for NIT our fair game for today's parlay,

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and then for tomorrow the show parlay will be from

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the NCAA tournament game. So these two games are are

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fair game, but we'll we'll hold them off for tomorrow.

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One quick, one more announcement. Total Basis starts tomorrow nine

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am Eastern, so we will talk giants Yankees, and we

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will talk futures and anything else you guys want to

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talk about in the chat, and then we'll have another

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show for Thursday for Opening Day. And that show is

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daily Monday through Friday going forward. Starting tomorrow, that's nine am.

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The college Basketball show will remain at ten am. So

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tomorrow you've got to deal with me for two hours,

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So get ready for that. You got baseball at nine

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and then nat is going to be going to be

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back with me at ten. Garth very much appreciate you

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did not have to donate today because we're going to

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talk about all the games, but we absolutely appreciate it.

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And so let's get into the ed I t Two

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games tonight, two games tomorrow. Garth wants to talk Tulsa

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Wichita State. Uh, well, specifically the total, but we'll do

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side in total.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I was at the first meeting between these two teams

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in Tulsa back in January.

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Speaker 2: Tulsa destroyed Whichita.

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Speaker 1: In that game, and since Wichita has made some really

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nice adjustments, they won the second meeting at home. They

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won the conference tournament tournament meeting easily. Certainly didn't help

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that David Green left that conference tournament game with injury.

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He still hasn't played. From what I'm hearing, it's a

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shoulder I believe is what he's dealing with. And Eric

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Knkle over the weekend said that he hasn't he hadn't

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participated in practice, hadn't done anything contact, but he he

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desperately wants to get out there. I know that over

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the weekend he was pretty much ruled out, you know,

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as of like Sunday morning, So he'll be a game

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time decision here. I gotta be honest, Tulsa, I'm a

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little bit surprised that they're still in this tournament without him.

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Steven up Austin almost got him on the first round,

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and I think UNLB was just a very good favorable

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matchup for Tulsa. So my question to you is, if

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David Green's not there, does Wichita State get them again?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 3: It's very possible if they don't get him again. The

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interesting fact like this is basically an NBA series. This

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is Game four. They've already played three times, so these

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teams know each other well. And like you mentioned, Game one,

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Tulsa won easy, scored ninety three points. Game two, close game,

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but a close Tulsa loss, and then Game three easy

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Wichita State wins, So like, yeah, every game it's the

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pendulum has started to swing towards Wichita. Not a coincidence.

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Tulsa's two point makes and those three games went from

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twenty five in game one to sixteen in Game two

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to just eleven in Game three. Tulsa only has two

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players that have more than sixty six made twos all year,

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which is basically two per game. They only have two

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players that have more than two to two point nicks

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per game, Tylan Riley, their point guard, and David Green.

475
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,960
So the fact that David Green missed that third matchup

476
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920
in Tulsa or left early and only played twelve minutes

477
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:23,440
and Tulsa only made eleven to two pointers all game

478
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:26,799
tells you that if he does not play in this game,

479
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,079
Tulsa will be all three pointers, which isn't the worst thing.

480
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,400
They are the number five three point shooting team in

481
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,279
the country, but there's no balance there. If David Green

482
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,279
is in and they do have that two point balance

483
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,319
and they are able to combat, which it US did

484
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:43,039
on the boards, which they did an okay job of

485
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,920
in the regular season, I think Tulsa's fine, but without green,

486
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:50,319
they're way too dependent on the three pointer.

487
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: I got a really good stat here that the Tulsa

488
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,559
Associate AD gave me when I was out there.

489
00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: First of all, shout out to Tulsa. They were awesome

490
00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:01,000
to me.

491
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:04,559
Speaker 1: When I when I visited there earlier this year. One

492
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:07,200
thing I will say, they probably will get a decent

493
00:25:07,279 --> 00:25:09,559
crowd tonight, like relative to what they've had the first

494
00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:12,440
couple of games. There was quite a few Wichita State

495
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,319
fans when I went. I guess those two schools are

496
00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,720
not too far away, and Wichita State does travel, so

497
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,720
I'd imagine that you'll get a good a good amount

498
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,000
of Wichita fans that will make this trip knowing that

499
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,759
they probably don't want to go all the way to

500
00:25:27,079 --> 00:25:30,440
Indy and battle the Final four crowd to watch the finals.

501
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,079
So there was fifty one hundred at the game that

502
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,039
I went to. I believe it was Tula's biggest crowd

503
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:36,799
of the year. I would not be surprised if it

504
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:38,839
was close to that tonight tonight. But I was going

505
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,279
to get back to a stat that was brought to

506
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,200
my attention when I was out there, and I think

507
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,000
we were close enough to the end of the season

508
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,279
where it probably still holds up, and it's gonna also

509
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:52,359
sort of highlight how important David Green is to this matchup.

510
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:56,960
There was only two other teams that had a higher

511
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,079
plus minus for the starting five this year in college

512
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:04,880
basketball than Tulsa. They were Arizona and Houston. That's pretty

513
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,480
good company right there. That you know, if you look

514
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,799
at at with just the starting five their plus minus,

515
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,839
they were third in college basketball.

516
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,279
Speaker 2: Only two teams better were Arizona Houston. That is very

517
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:18,960
good company.

518
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,599
Speaker 1: But also that means you take David Green off the floor,

519
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,039
who's arguably their best starter. That's a pretty big hit

520
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,279
when you know that that. I don't know that they

521
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:33,400
have like the replacement person there. And and I think

522
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,559
again you go back to the Steven F. Austin game.

523
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,279
They were on the ropes there. It looked like they

524
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,519
were gonna lose that game. And New NLV again, I

525
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:43,880
just don't think they ever really matched up well with Tulsa,

526
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,119
whereas like those of tow States figured them.

527
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: Out go ahead. I also don't think you cared this.

528
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,039
Speaker 2: Players might not have.

529
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 3: I don't think players wanted to be there. Yeah, imagine

530
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:58,039
you're like living in Vegas or seasons basically over, you've

531
00:26:58,039 --> 00:26:59,599
made your money for the year, and then you've got

532
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:03,319
to go to Oklahoma played basketball game. Their starters played

533
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,880
all but what ten minutes of the entire game, there

534
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,160
were ten total revegement they didn't want to be there.

535
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that.

536
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: That was also on the heels of having to go

537
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:16,640
to Irvine, so it was like the second road game

538
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,480
for UNLV. Yeah, I definitely kind of I'll be honest.

539
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480
That was one I didn't watch a ton of, but

540
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:25,960
it feeled like UNLV was out of it from the

541
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,240
opening tip, like it just it just didn't seem it

542
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,079
didn't seem like they were interested. Anytime I turned that

543
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,680
game on, they looked very uninterested, which was obviously benefit

544
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,519
Tulsa there.

545
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: Which is saty to be interested. One of my favorite

546
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,880
and easiest bets of a long time was Wichita State

547
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,279
as an underdog at Oklahoma State because only one of

548
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,319
those teams wanted to play that game. And unfortunately, now

549
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:50,640
that we're two rounds into the NIT, there's probably no

550
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:52,880
teams left that don't want to be there. But in

551
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,359
the first two rounds there were definitely teams that did

552
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,480
not want to be there, and Oklahoma State was one

553
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:57,759
of them.

554
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: Oh without a debt.

555
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean I think that I think they surprised themselves

556
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,880
that they beat Davidson. And the only reason, the only

557
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,519
reason I didn't play Wichitas d over the weekend. I

558
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:12,559
kind of got duped by Oh, like Anthony Roy's playing

559
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,160
and all these guys are gonna play, which you know

560
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,359
some of their guys came back.

561
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, Wichita State in the second half of that

562
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,880
game destroyed them. Wasn't even close.

563
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,759
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think if I had to play this

564
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:27,640
one again, like I'll keep an eye, would keep an

565
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,119
eye on the David Green status. But I don't know

566
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,240
trying to read between the lines on how Conko was

567
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,480
talking in that interview that he did over the weekend.

568
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,799
Speaker 2: Ah, if he's playing, he's probably not.

569
00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,799
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, Like I don't think he's close to

570
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:42,559
one hundred percent.

571
00:28:43,119 --> 00:28:45,599
Speaker 3: This is the one game of the four that I

572
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,720
don't have any action.

573
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:50,799
Speaker 1: In, so real quick before we move on to the

574
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:53,279
next game. Just because Garth did ask the question over

575
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,400
or under what way do you lean on the total.

576
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: If David Green's out, I don't necessarily like the over

577
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,920
just because, like I mentioned earlier, Telsa is going to

578
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,200
be so three point dependent, and of course they can

579
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,119
make them. But I'm never gonna advise to take an

580
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:09,640
over if the team is going to take fifty sixty

581
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,279
percent of their shots from three, which is probably what

582
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:14,759
happens here. It's just like, yeah, it will hit if

583
00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:17,079
they make them, and it will not hit if they miss.

584
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,880
I'm always gonna prefer taking an over if I feel

585
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,119
like a team is going to be successful inside the.

586
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the other game tonight out

587
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:31,720
at the pit. Another place that was like like overly

588
00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:34,039
nice to Trig when he went there. Listen, I'm like

589
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,799
a nobody media guy, so like the big schools usually

590
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:39,279
are like, go ahead and buy a ticket. But like

591
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,079
sometimes when I'm in this like a ten Mountain West range,

592
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:44,960
like I'll you know, they'll give me the credentials and

593
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,640
you know, it's hit or miss Tulsa and then New

594
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,599
Mexico may have rolled out the red carpet maybe more

595
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,680
than anyone ever has.

596
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:54,759
Speaker 2: So love my time there.

597
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: I got to go to a New Mexico Boise State

598
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,079
game on a Friday night, sold out at the pit,

599
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,119
and I guess that's where I want to start the handicap.

600
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,119
I don't think the pit is gonna sell out tonight.

601
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,480
I do think they could have eight, eight or nine thousand.

602
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,839
They're not getting fourteen for this game, So like right

603
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,759
off the bat, I'm not I can't give them like

604
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:16,799
the full bump for home court that I normally would

605
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,480
because it's like I think they had seven thousand for

606
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:20,559
the George Washington game.

607
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Note again too, oh they had nine

608
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,400
thousand for that game. Okay, so that's yeah.

609
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, they that is as passionate of a

610
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,400
fan base as I've ever been around, just in general,

611
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:35,480
like New Mexico fans super. You know, they they're gonna

612
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,319
come out and support regardless. So yeah, I think you

613
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680
can get eight or nine thousand in there tonight. I

614
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,519
don't think you get.

615
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:43,319
Speaker 3: Four thousand more fans than any of the other home

616
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,440
games over the weekend.

617
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some of those. I think there was

618
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,599
like fifteen hundred of Berkeley.

619
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: So like, you know, that's a do you do want

620
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,119
to sort of do your homework, like when it's when

621
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,599
you're trying to assess home court here now obviously, just

622
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,920
like the aura of the pit gives you a little

623
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,200
bit of home court for New Mexico. I couldn't add

624
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200
the full points for home court because I think my

625
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:10,279
full rating for like I usually will give New Mexico

626
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:12,680
the absolute full marks that I would give anyone for

627
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,359
home court, I'm not sure I'm gonna do that here.

628
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,519
Big thing here like Dayton Albury, I think he had

629
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:19,480
the flu over the weekend.

630
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: Will he play? Maybe maybe not.

631
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't so for me, it didn't really matter in

632
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:26,240
the fact that like I do like Saint Joe's in

633
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,720
this game, Like just just from the standpoint you were saying,

634
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,000
like teams caring about this tournament.

635
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:31,599
Speaker 2: I think you're right.

636
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: Everyone left, for the most part, wants to be here

637
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,680
and wants to win. And for Saint Joe's like to

638
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:43,200
come back and beat Cal. They didn't play well, I don't.

639
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:46,000
I don't think they weren't interested at Cal. I think

640
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,880
they just they didn't play a great first half and

641
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,799
Cal just went nuts from from distance again like they

642
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,960
did in the first game, cooled off a little bit,

643
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,519
and Saint Joe's battled and stayed in that game. My

644
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200
gut tells me that Saint Jose is gonna hang around

645
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,480
here because they they care. I think, you know, Steve

646
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:06,680
Donahue takes over this program right like last second, Billy

647
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,160
lane Chit takes the NBA job. He has to throw

648
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,599
Deuce Jones off the team, so kicks the best player

649
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,039
off the team. Like Since that point, this team has

650
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,680
totally rallied around that they finished third in the A ten.

651
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,359
My gut says they'd love to like pay this season

652
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,200
off with like as good of a showing as they

653
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,279
can in the NIT and then of course to go

654
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,720
to Colorado State and win, hang around and beat college.

655
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,559
You know, cal I don't think they're going quietly here,

656
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,680
but Matt it is the pit. New Mexico has played well.

657
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,519
Do you think this is another blowout?

658
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: Though?

659
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,319
Speaker 1: For New Mexico they didn't get challenged at all in

660
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:41,119
the first two games.

661
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: I do you think it's another blow it up? I'll

662
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:44,599
be the other way. I'm going to get the way

663
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:46,720
with you here. I think that. I mean maybe Saint

664
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,680
John sig Joe's hangs around for a half, That's what

665
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,799
George Washington did twenty five point game, but it was

666
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:55,599
four at halftime. And then New Mexico without Dayton Aubury,

667
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,440
like you mentioned, who very well might be back here.

668
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:01,759
Blew the absolute cover off of George Washington. It wasn't

669
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:05,359
even close, And I think that's gonna be more of

670
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,720
the same here Saint Joe's. I'm not sure if they're

671
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,519
going back and forth and back and forth east west

672
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,000
to east west, but they're not. Assume they're just on

673
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:13,720
the West coast. It's only been a couple of days,

674
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,119
and like that sounds fun. Good for them. But the

675
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,400
thing with New Mexico, First of all, I love their coach,

676
00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,480
Eric Olan. He's one of my five favorite coach. He's

677
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:24,000
not one of the five best coaches in the country,

678
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,759
but he's one of my five favorite coaches. And he

679
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,559
does a better job than anyone in the entire country

680
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,039
at one particular thing, and it's scouting. Who makes threes

681
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,799
and who doesn't make threes. New Mexico does an unbelievable

682
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,519
job of punking you into taking threes with your bad

683
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:46,960
shooters and covering up everything with your good shooters. That

684
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,000
so y'all look at the scouting report, is your teammate

685
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:52,160
team that has a couple of three point shooters or

686
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,440
a lot of three point shooters? And for Saint Joe's

687
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,480
a team that's three hundred and twenty fifth in three

688
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,359
point shooting. They only have two players on their entire

689
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,799
roster that shoot over thirty percent from three. That's Jaden Glover,

690
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,039
Jake Gleber, Tuscano, and Austin Wiliford. Outside of that, not

691
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,920
only do they have poor three point shooters, but they

692
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,280
have pour three point shooters that shoot a ton Derek Simpsons.

693
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:18,599
Derek Simpson is thirty percent flat on one hundred and

694
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,960
sixty six attempts. The Seer Haskins is twenty nine percent

695
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:26,719
on one hundred and sixteen attempts. Anthony Finkley is twenty

696
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,360
nine percent on one hundred and six attempts. If Eric

697
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,159
Olin sees they have three guys shooting thirty percent or

698
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,159
worse on over one hundred per tent over one hundred attempts,

699
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,159
He's like licking his chops. He's like, we're letting these

700
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,199
guys fire away, and we're gonna have the rest of

701
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,559
our team held bent on getting steals, which they do

702
00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:46,559
better than almost anyone in the country, and Saint Joe's

703
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,760
coughs it up at a very high rate. They also

704
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,239
don't readment, so New Mexico is gonna take ten fifteen

705
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,880
more shots than Saint Joe's. They're gonna cover up the

706
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,760
threes from their good shooters, and Saint Joe's covers this game.

707
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:05,960
Derek Simpton if Simpson, Haskins, and Finkley shoot well above

708
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,599
thirty percent, and like, maybe they do, but the law

709
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:11,719
of averages suggests they will not. And with New Mexico

710
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,719
and their crowd their biggest crowd in the NIT in

711
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,280
both of the first two meetings, I think they really

712
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,960
care about this game. They're almost into the semi finals.

713
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:21,679
I think they win this game by fifteen.

714
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

715
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:27,159
Speaker 1: I mean again, I think I maybe, maybe maybe I

716
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,840
got too attached to Saint Joe's after they came back

717
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,159
and one on SAT on SAT Sunday, excuse me Sunday night.

718
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:38,440
But like I guess for me, it's just I feel

719
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:41,519
like New Mexico is gonna get like challenged at some

720
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,239
point in this tournament. I think they were given, you know,

721
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,519
George Washington rolled in there would like, I don't know,

722
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:50,679
I kind of I kind of figured that they'd get

723
00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:54,440
blown out after beating Utah Valley. I actually went against

724
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,760
George Washington in the Utah Valley game that the first

725
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,960
round was just a runaway, So I don't know. My

726
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,119
gut tells me that this is a tougher game for

727
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,519
New Mexico. But if New Mexico is hitting their threes,

728
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,440
maybe it gets out of hand. I liked Saint Joe's

729
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,599
the ability to defend the rim and defend the paint,

730
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,719
so I don't think they're just gonna get easy shots

731
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,639
on the interior. But New Mexico isn't a bad three

732
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:19,320
point shooting team at all. I believe top sixty in

733
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,760
that metric this year. And the one play player you

734
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,039
referenced on Saint Joe's Matt, had a bad three point

735
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:28,760
shooting game against Cali. Now think he's below thirty percent,

736
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,280
So I think Glover Tuscano is. Now they're only one

737
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,639
that is shooting over thirty percent for three. I'll have

738
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,400
to double check that.

739
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:35,079
Speaker 3: But will.

740
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: He is okay? So I must have I must have

741
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,760
read that wrong. I didn't know if his one. I

742
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,840
think he went one for four from three last game,

743
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,679
and I thought I saw that he was below that,

744
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,119
But no, all really good points. And again I think

745
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,519
there's ways that Saint Joe's keeps it close. It would

746
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,719
probably need to just be like a gutted out type

747
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,000
effort to keep it close for for Saint Joe's and

748
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:02,039
one that I'm gonna probably bank on tonight. So again,

749
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:04,559
I this one got shoved in my face a little bit.

750
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:08,639
I was at ten and a half eleven. I thought

751
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,360
if Albery got ruled out, it might come down to

752
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,119
like nine and a half nine. It looks like he's

753
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,360
probably gonna play from what I'm hearing now here the

754
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,559
flu We'll see, we'll see. That's uh, that's one that uh,

755
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:23,960
I don't know. I may have to reassess, but I

756
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,199
am I like Saint Jose they cast for me on Sunday.

757
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,800
I'm hoping they can come out and just gut it

758
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,360
out again, keep it close, because I definitely think if

759
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,159
they if they play well, they're in the game. I

760
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:37,840
mean it's like they but they need a big defensive effort,

761
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,280
no question. They need a big defensive effort, and they

762
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480
probably need New Mexico to not shoot the lights out

763
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:42,920
from three.

764
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

765
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: So the nit game I got wrong over the weekend

766
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:58,360
was UNC Wilmington. Dayton went into Trash Coliseum, dug themselves

767
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,199
a ten point hole, and then played arguably their best

768
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,719
thirty minutes of basketball the whole year. I mean, I'm

769
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,960
sitting there with Wilmington at a good number. I had

770
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,760
three and a half up, twenty six to sixteen, the

771
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,320
trash Coliseum crowd. They rarely lose there. I'm feeling great.

772
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,480
And then Dayton went off. I mean, that was as

773
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:23,880
impressive of a thirty minutes that I think the Flyers

774
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,159
have played most of the year. DeShane Montgomery was all

775
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,400
over the place, played one of his best games that

776
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,800
I've watched this year twenty points, but I mean he

777
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,000
was all over the place, making play after play. I

778
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:42,760
didn't know if how motivated Dayton would be. Of course,

779
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,360
you know, they got to Sunday in the Atlantic Ten.

780
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:48,599
They're sitting there thinking, Okay, if we can beat a

781
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,159
team that we probably feel like we can beat, we're

782
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,519
going to be in the NCAA Tournament. They fall short there,

783
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,880
end up back in the NIT where they were last year,

784
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,800
get displaced from their arena. They had to think that

785
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,760
they are likely still going to be on the road,

786
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,119
because I don't think they could have thought that Illinois

787
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:05,360
State was gonna win at Wake.

788
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: So I didn't think they were going to be overly motivated.

789
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: I figured they walked over Bradley because Bradley didn't want

790
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,559
to be there either. But Dayton looked awesome in that

791
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,239
game against Wilmington, and now they get the home game

792
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,920
because Illinois stayed update upset wake Forest. So this had

793
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,559
a little bit of a move up to seven and

794
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,280
a half. I kind of agree with that. I think

795
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,159
Dayton might be too much for Illinois State. What do

796
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:29,599
you think here, Dayton, Illinois State.

797
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on Dayton both n IT games. That's

798
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:34,920
gone very well for me because it was I mean

799
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,400
a little bit of first half issues. But I barely

800
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,079
had to look at the two Dayton games that I

801
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,679
had because they were pretty easy. I mean, I guess

802
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:45,239
we had opposite reactions to the second half of that

803
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,679
UNCW game given to our stances. I kind of pegged

804
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,199
Dayton as a team that was really going to care

805
00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:54,159
about this tournament because three of their best players are seniors,

806
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,119
and their seniors that are defensive minded seniors and Jayvon Bennett,

807
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Jordan Durkak, and Kante Jones. Defense, when you want to

808
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:04,239
try hard, defense is gonna kind of show up. And

809
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,039
then Amael Latang is a center is just someone who

810
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:09,880
big character guy, so I figured he'd try hard. And

811
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,679
then to Shane Montgomery, not a character guy, but I

812
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,679
think he wants to get back to P five hoops

813
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:18,719
and playing well here is gonna help. So they've they've

814
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,039
shown out in the first two games, not necessarily close.

815
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,199
They get the home game. They're these significantly more athletic team.

816
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,079
But what I don't want to discount is this Illinois

817
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,840
State team that brings everyone back from last year, is

818
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,840
now five to oh in postseason games. With this core.

819
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,159
They went three and oh in the CBI last year

820
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,519
and now they're two and oh in the NIT, covering

821
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:41,719
both games super easily. I was on Kent State that

822
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,960
was an NIT game I got wrong and it was

823
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,360
not even close. Illinois State plays for the post with

824
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,039
Chase Walker at the five, and now Chase Walker is

825
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:53,360
going to be posting up against a seven foot one

826
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,360
guy in Amalatang, and Dayton loves a double team because

827
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,199
they want their steals, so it's gonna be a little

828
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,320
bit of an issue for them in Illinois State is

829
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,199
going to have to make threes to be successful here.

830
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:10,440
But Illinois State struggles to defend athleticism. They're two and

831
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:12,679
five when teams get to the free throw line at

832
00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:15,559
a forty two percent rate against them, because when they foul,

833
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:19,119
they're not that deep, and when they you know, they're

834
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:21,840
a very good two point defense. But it doesn't work

835
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,079
if you're so athletic that you can score over their

836
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:28,519
small front court. So in those five in those seven games,

837
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,000
they have allowed a forty two percent free throw rate.

838
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,599
They're two and five and they've allowed one point one

839
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,239
point one point one five points possession in six of

840
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,039
those seven games. Dayton's first in the entire country. And

841
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:41,880
get in their free throw line. I think Dayton scores easily.

842
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,760
I think Illinois State hits shots. I think this game

843
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,760
probably goes over.

844
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh oh for those of you, Rob Vino

845
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,760
is still uh He'll be out the rest of this week.

846
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,119
He is on he's on tour with his his son

847
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,559
is a professional musician. Actually the band is incredible and

848
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,440
he's I believe he's on tour on the West Coast

849
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,119
right now, so like that's awesome. I think he's getting

850
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,480
to bounce around to a couple of different West Coast cities.

851
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:09,559
Speaker 2: So Rob will be back next week.

852
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:12,519
Speaker 1: But the reason I bring Rob up is, you know,

853
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,679
just to let you know that he'll be back. But

854
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,559
also he texted me on Sunday and he was, I

855
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:21,440
think fired up. I think the Kinsinger three helped him

856
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,880
in some way. I don't I don't know if I

857
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,360
think he either had the over, which I believe that

858
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,519
three point shot against wake Forrest put it over by

859
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:31,000
a half point, or you know, I don't know how

860
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:32,519
it helped him, but he was he was fired up

861
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:35,880
about that, so uh and my text back to him

862
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,920
that was, it's about time for Kinsinger, right Like I

863
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,840
was like it because we've talked about on this show

864
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,679
his shooting woes relative to what he's been his career,

865
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,239
and it's like, I mean, that's massive for Illinois State.

866
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,400
If he's going to start ripping from three like he's

867
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,880
you would like he's supposed to, right, which he hasn't

868
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,360
really done all year, then I could, you know, I

869
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,039
could definitely kind of see them hanging around in this

870
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,280
game if he can. I think Dayton kind of just

871
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,239
goes off. Their press was really good against Wilmington. That

872
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,559
was the biggest thing. Wilmington just could not get into

873
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,079
any sort of offense like once once they sort of

874
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,119
started ramping up the pressure, they they just couldn't They

875
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:18,400
just couldn't get anything going. They turned it over, just

876
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,880
couldn't get into any offense. And that's really what Dayton

877
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,920
did most of the second half was just the ramp

878
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,639
up the pressure and they extended. You know, that was

879
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:29,480
a one point game with like a minute to go

880
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,159
in the first half, and it.

881
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:32,199
Speaker 2: Was quickly out of hand.

882
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,559
Speaker 1: So if I had to pick, I think that's the

883
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:38,000
way I see this one going is Dayton's press getting

884
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,239
the best of Illinois State.

885
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 2: And of course, you know, Chase Walker in a game.

886
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: That that's going to be like high pressure is not

887
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:49,280
probably as big of an impact. And I think I

888
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,719
think this is another one where you know, the home

889
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,599
fans will probably show up. Dayton almost always gets a

890
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:56,239
good turn even when they're mad at the team, they

891
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,159
still show up, which was a lot of this year,

892
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,519
and they still had a great turnout forever game. So

893
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,280
probably looking at a pretty nice home court environment here.

894
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you look at the teams that Illinois's played,

895
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:09,239
that Illinois State Storry has played that you can decidedly

896
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,360
say are more athletic than them, right, those have all

897
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,679
been high scoring games. Even though they beat Wake, there

898
00:44:15,679 --> 00:44:17,599
were still one hundred and fifty three points in that game.

899
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:19,920
You think Utah State a team that's definitely more athletic

900
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,320
than Illinois State one hundred and sixty one points. If

901
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,480
you look at USC, obviously, USC is more athletic. Their

902
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,280
Power conference team, what one hundred and fifty four points.

903
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,199
So all three of those games against probably the three

904
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,360
most athletic teams they've played all year, the most Power

905
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,679
five looking competition USC, who is in the Power five,

906
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Utah State in Wake, those have all gone over one

907
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,679
fifty three. I don't think that's the surprise. I think

908
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:46,239
that Illinois State's defense is ranked high because of their

909
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,760
scheme and their ability to slow down teams equally athletic

910
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,880
or slightly more athletic. I think Dayton's athleticism is going

911
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,039
to allow them to score pretty easily around the around

912
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:55,360
the rum.

913
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,639
Speaker 1: All right, one more NIT game and then we will

914
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,920
figure out what we want to put in the parlay

915
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:06,599
this one. So I guess the first thing to point

916
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:10,159
out about Auburn so prior to this week, I would

917
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:14,079
do almost like an NIT injury report of sorts. But

918
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,960
the reality is there hasn't been as much to report

919
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,280
because most of the teams that have had guys either

920
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,480
not play or not care are now out of the tournament.

921
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:24,679
Speaker 2: A lot of these teams are full strength.

922
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: The most notable probably omission of any of these four

923
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,360
games is Keishawn Murphy. I guess he just didn't tell

924
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,000
Auburn he was done for the year, just didn't show up.

925
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:37,280
From what I heard, it was news to Steven Pearl

926
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,400
and the coaching staff that he was not available. He

927
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,360
just straight up no showed and that does not bode

928
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,639
well for playing the rest of this tournament. So I

929
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:46,559
almost think that you could just assume that he's going

930
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:51,039
to be out. I don't know if it's you know,

931
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:55,199
it hasn't mattered yet, but Auburn hasn't covered yet. They

932
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:57,800
haven't covered either of these big numbers. I actually I

933
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,920
had a cash with South Alabama first round, kicking myself

934
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,760
or not taking Seattle. It was like right there for me,

935
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,920
and I just kind of decided to leave it off.

936
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,920
And of course they finished strong, only lost by six.

937
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,760
That number was as high as fourteen and a half.

938
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,320
So I guess I'm in the same place here where

939
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,079
it's another big number and another one that I'm not

940
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:21,480
sure Auburn just necessarily covers. I've seen a lot of

941
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,760
good stuff so far from Nevada. They've had everyone play.

942
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:28,039
They look to be taking this seriously, so I don't know.

943
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,880
It's not something I bet yet, but kind of intrigued

944
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,679
by the wolf.

945
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: Packet in all those points. What do you think Auburn Nevada.

946
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you there. Auburn doesn't care. Auburn beat

947
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,119
South Alabama. They were losing it by six at half time,

948
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,719
again set Alabama and set Alabama to not have their

949
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,360
second ginning score and only good three point shooter in

950
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,960
Adam Olsen. I was on settlabat South Alabama as well.

951
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,000
I got a little concerned when Olsen was ruled out.

952
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:56,800
It didn't matter because Auburn doesn't care. And then Seattle,

953
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,639
like just a real Seattle even after that went ballistic

954
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:03,599
from deep against Auburn, moved up to the two hundred

955
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:07,960
and ninety second best offense in the country. Auburn winning

956
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,639
that game by six is not any level remotely close

957
00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:14,119
to an impressive performance. So that's, like you said, two

958
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:18,000
non covers, but also just two very average performances for

959
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:21,199
an Auburn team that I'm surprised even accepted this nit bit.

960
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:23,800
I think Stephen Perl kind of made their team do it,

961
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,840
and that's why Kisha and Murphy did not show up.

962
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:30,519
And like you mentioned, Nevada has actually significantly outperformed two

963
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:32,679
teams in Murray State Liberty that did want to be there,

964
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,960
Liberty especially playing all their seniors Kid and Atheni playing

965
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,159
through injury. It didn't matter even though this is a

966
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:43,599
travel for Nevada. You know, Auburn has not played teams

967
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:47,360
that can match their Power Conference athleticism at all instead

968
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,920
of Alabama and Seattle. Nevada is not huge, but they

969
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,440
do have athletes, they do have physicality, they do have

970
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,079
guys that get to the free throw line just like

971
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:58,320
Auburn does. And I would just be very surprised if

972
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,519
Auburn cares enough about this game to blow out a

973
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:04,320
team that can sort of match their physicality.

974
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

975
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,039
Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to the South Alabama game.

976
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,480
They got completely outplayed. They just went absolutely nuts from

977
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,559
three in the second half where it was just like,

978
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:19,320
I mean, some of those threes were thirty plus footers.

979
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:23,639
They weren't good shots, per se, but they just you

980
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:25,000
know they I mean, they do have a couple of

981
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:28,400
guys that can can rip it from deep and Rickie

982
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,920
Riley's playing his own and you know, if you're gonna pull,

983
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,800
if you're gonna hit from thirty three feet thirty feet

984
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,840
like some of the I mean they were just bombed

985
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,559
and the same bombs away. In the second half, there

986
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:39,599
was a stretch I mean where it was like a

987
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:42,800
one point game and then suddenly I was starting to sweat,

988
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,960
like nineteen and a half because they hit like five

989
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:45,719
straight threes.

990
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: That's unlikely.

991
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:51,519
Speaker 1: I mean, no, that has actually been very solid defensively.

992
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:53,920
More you know, in the first round, I'm kind of

993
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,000
watching the Murray State game and I'm like, okay, maybe

994
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:58,360
Alfred's spreading the minutes around a little bit, trying to

995
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,960
gauge like how much he he wanted to be here,

996
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,719
because you know, Steve Albert's a veteran coach, and I

997
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480
wouldn't have been totally surprised if he used this turn

998
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,280
him as as like, hey, let's get everyone some minutes

999
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,159
and see what we've got here. But definitely more serious

1000
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:16,960
in my opinion against Liberty, close that game, out cover

1001
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:21,039
the number, and yeah, like I just I think Nevada

1002
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:24,440
is gonna sort of be up for this opportunity. It's

1003
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:26,679
a lot of you know, I guess somewhat of the

1004
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,000
same way I looked at Saint Joe's sort of like okay,

1005
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,000
like you know, we were on the road, but like

1006
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:35,559
we're up for it. We want to be here. We

1007
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:37,280
want to see if we can advance to the to

1008
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,840
the you know, Final four weekend, and that's of course

1009
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,079
where all these teams are going.

1010
00:49:41,119 --> 00:49:43,519
Speaker 2: Anyone that wins the quarterfinal round will.

1011
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: Get to go be part of Final four weekend, which

1012
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,480
you know, I mean, it's I don't know if they

1013
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:49,320
if it's as hype as like when you used to

1014
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,039
get to go to the Garden, but that's pretty cool

1015
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,960
getting to be part of the Final four weekend and

1016
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,920
play at Gamebridge or wherever they're gonna play. I think

1017
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,920
maybe Hinkle for the semi's Gamebridge for the FI.

1018
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,079
Speaker 2: So it's like.

1019
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: I think Nevada though, for sure, is it like up

1020
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,760
for Like that's a huge like going to potentially get

1021
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,639
to win, to be Auburn their home floor in SEC

1022
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:14,519
school and then get to go to like the final

1023
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:17,239
four of this Like that's like a big prize in

1024
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,840
my opinion for Nevada, especially this year. This wasn't a

1025
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,360
year where like the Wolfpack were like some shoe in

1026
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:26,760
NCAA tournament team. So I've seen Nevada much more motivated

1027
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,159
than Auburn.

1028
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: Here and Steve Alford Indiana legend, so he wants to

1029
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,079
come back.

1030
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: I got off, I was driving through Indiana. I got

1031
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,639
off to get I was starving, and like the only

1032
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,719
thing for like I saw it was like a steak

1033
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,920
and shake or something. So I got off, went to

1034
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,280
get food, and like Steve Alfred's hotel, which was a

1035
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,480
very modest like almost looked like a motel, was like

1036
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,719
right there and then and I looked it up.

1037
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: I mean it is like I'm pretty sure like.

1038
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: It's you know his or he he you know whatever,

1039
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,239
like and it was that was like the two things

1040
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,199
on the exit was.

1041
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 2: Steak and shake in his hotel, nothing else else.

1042
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: Anyway, got to bring him back home, and I'll be

1043
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:15,679
in Indianapolis in a couple of weekends for the for

1044
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,559
the final four. I think that them being there would

1045
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:19,800
be very good for the program.

1046
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, that's that's one I'm certainly interested in.

1047
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,519
So we still have a few minutes left here, so

1048
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:29,840
let's I'm gonna go to the chat because there is

1049
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,960
a couple questions we can we can finish this out

1050
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:33,840
with a couple of chat questions.

1051
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: But first let's lock in our n T parlay. I

1052
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,000
will let you go first.

1053
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:40,599
Speaker 1: Any of the four games, who's your best bet?

1054
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Daton over one thirty eight and

1055
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,039
a half.

1056
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 2: Over one thirty eight and a half.

1057
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: All right, So I that is a Wednesday game.

1058
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: I'm torn.

1059
00:51:55,639 --> 00:52:00,559
Speaker 1: I'm torn between Nevada and Wichita State. I'm gonna take

1060
00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:02,159
one of those dogs for the parlay.

1061
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:04,639
Speaker 2: So I'll throw.

1062
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: We could make it if you are if you are

1063
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,760
in line with those, we could make it a three teamer.

1064
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: The folks like three teamers.

1065
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,039
Speaker 1: So it's either if you like either of those, we

1066
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:15,840
can make it a three teamer or I'll pick.

1067
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave it up to you. Do you want

1068
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,000
to go two? All right? So what I'm gonna do,

1069
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:21,719
I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take.

1070
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: Wichita State plus the three and a half. My gut

1071
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,559
tells me David Green is not going to play, and

1072
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,199
Wichita states me they've made all the adjustments off of

1073
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,960
that first meeting in my opinion, where they're the more

1074
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,199
likely team to win this game. And I just don't

1075
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,119
think it matters a ton that Tulsa's at home their

1076
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:44,840
biggest home crowd of the year. So Tulsa you want

1077
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,960
to talk about just quickly, like numbers and stuff. I

1078
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,679
think they had two thousand over the weekend and maybe

1079
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,320
like fifteen hundred or sixteen hundred for the Steven F.

1080
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: Austin game.

1081
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,079
Speaker 1: If they get a big crowd tonight, it's because all

1082
00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,920
the Wichita State fans rolled up, which is is a

1083
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:02,440
essentially what they did when I was there. That was

1084
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,639
a great crowd, but it was a great crowd because

1085
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,000
there was a lot of yellow.

1086
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,079
Speaker 2: I even tweeted it out. I did it video.

1087
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:10,519
Speaker 1: I said, a lot of yellow here in the crowd today.

1088
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,119
And I wouldn't be surprised if Wichita sort of rolls

1089
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:16,800
in with a little bit of a contingent. I think

1090
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,360
it's like a two hour drive for them, So I'm

1091
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,599
going to take Wichita stay.

1092
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,039
Speaker 3: Again.

1093
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: My gut just says that Green if he does play,

1094
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:27,719
is not close to one hundred percent, and he'd be

1095
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,880
like giving it, given it a go because he wants

1096
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,920
to be out there. I think what's more likely, because

1097
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,559
it's like a shoulder thing that he hadn't done any contact,

1098
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,559
is he sits this one out, hope his team wins,

1099
00:53:38,599 --> 00:53:40,039
and then he gets to be part of like the

1100
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:40,880
final four weekend.

1101
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,159
Speaker 3: That is.

1102
00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:44,559
Speaker 1: That's what I kind of think is happening. And I

1103
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:47,320
just think without Green, I'd be really surprised if Tulsa

1104
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:52,360
wins that game. So I will go Wichita. Yeah, I

1105
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,280
will go Wichita. We'll call it plus three and a

1106
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,239
half looks like what that that is?

1107
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: And that's one that I may that goes back to

1108
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,039
four some reason.

1109
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: I think i'd even I haven't given this out or

1110
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,920
bet it yet, but I think if that went back

1111
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,119
to four, like if he did play and suddenly it

1112
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:10,119
was like four and a half or five, I think

1113
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:11,360
I'd still play Wichita.

1114
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,159
Speaker 3: There.

1115
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: I'd almost rather him get ruled in and then have

1116
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:17,960
it move a couple points, because I just don't think

1117
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,400
he's gonna be a huge factor even if he does playing.

1118
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,920
There's no way he's gonna play as like normal minutes

1119
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:29,079
to sort of constitute him moving the number. Yeah, all right,

1120
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,039
so I am gonna I'm gonna hop into the chat here,

1121
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,159
we'll go two team or today. I'll tell you guys what,

1122
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,840
We'll go two team or today Tomorrow, Matt and I

1123
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,920
will put a three team or together with with all

1124
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,360
of the Sweet sixteen games because we'll have more games

1125
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,920
to choose from. So all the Sweet sixteen is gonna

1126
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,840
go tomorrow or well, the rest of the Sweet sixteen.

1127
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,280
We did the East region if you've missed the show.

1128
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,079
As always, the show is on demand on the Wager

1129
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:58,599
talk to YouTube channel. We talked East region, Duke Saint

1130
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:02,960
John's Michigan State, yukon the rest of the or tomorrow's

1131
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,679
show is going to be entirely devoted to the rest

1132
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:11,519
of the bracket, so we'll do the other three regions.

1133
00:55:11,639 --> 00:55:14,519
I'm trying to I was just kind of scrolling the

1134
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:19,280
chat here and oh, we'll go. Yeah, fire Fighter says

1135
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,360
Wichitas plus three and a half even money on hard rock.

1136
00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:25,360
If that's the case, you can probably get four or

1137
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,639
four and a half at like minus one ten or

1138
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:30,519
minus one fifteen. I that's a very good bet. I'm

1139
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:34,239
I'm hoping I do see Tulsa at.

1140
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:34,559
Speaker 2: Some of this.

1141
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: More square books starting to take a little bit of

1142
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,199
money that'd be great. Please someone bet Tulsa if you know,

1143
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:44,960
that would be great because I yeah, like right here,

1144
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,880
we've got a four fanatics plus four minus one ten

1145
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,960
to keep an eye out for that.

1146
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 2: I think I think at four Wichita is like a

1147
00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:54,000
very good bet right there.

1148
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:58,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean again,

1149
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:00,239
Green comes in changes a lot. But if you don't

1150
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,280
think he's playing, then.

1151
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it's like just trying to read the

1152
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:07,199
tea leaves on on, you know, conco saying that he

1153
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,119
hasn't done any contact and practice and stuff like that,

1154
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,719
Like that's concerning, especially if it's like and again, correct

1155
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,360
me if I'm wrong. I think it's a shoulder. I

1156
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,039
thought I saw him with like a big ice pack

1157
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:20,800
on his shoulder. So yeah, that'll be that'll be an

1158
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,119
interesting one to monitor throughout the day, all right. So yeah,

1159
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:28,000
we will be no half points or alts on DK.

1160
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:31,960
There will be DraftKings should let you all anything if

1161
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,320
you if you just click the game there. I'm pretty

1162
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,719
sure at some point during the day there's gonna be

1163
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,039
that slide bar of alt numbers. I'm pretty sure DraftKings

1164
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:46,679
will let you all that pretty much anything. So you

1165
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:50,480
know Billy Humphrey says double double dip on the Dayton game,

1166
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:52,639
Matt's overplus the line. I mean, I think if it

1167
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,039
goes over, Dayton's probably covering. I don't I don't hate that.

1168
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah I would. I would agree. That would be where

1169
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,480
I lean out of take it, but that'll be rare.

1170
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: I lean recap on the parlay.

1171
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, one more time, we've got a two team or

1172
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,000
today I am on Wichita State plus three and a half.

1173
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:11,639
That game goes tonight, Matt is using one of the

1174
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,639
n I T games Tomorrow, He's gonna go with the

1175
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,480
Dayton Illinois State Dayton over one thirty eight and a half.

1176
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:22,519
Speaker 2: So that is the uh, that is the two teamer today.

1177
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: I again, I draft DK only does half points usually.

1178
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,480
I am like certain that on a side they they

1179
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:35,239
won't give you like the traditional like minus one twenty

1180
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,679
and a half point. I'm certain they will let you

1181
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,519
pick the line. I think they force you to go

1182
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:43,119
at least a point, though maybe a point and a half.

1183
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,280
I couldn't be wrong about that, but like I thought,

1184
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:48,480
you know, DraftKings, I've I've I've been heavily limited there

1185
00:57:48,519 --> 00:57:50,440
a long time, so I don't log into that one

1186
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:54,159
very often anymore. But I could have swore that that

1187
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,280
was a good place to do all stuff. So yeah, anyway,

1188
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:02,280
chop around. There's other someone says, juice like an orange.

1189
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,880
Yeah that sounds about right. That that that I'm not

1190
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:10,800
surprised about. But yeah, shop around, get yourself a you know,

1191
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,920
there's there's a lot of options to bet pretty much

1192
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,199
anywhere now. So if you can't bet it there, bet

1193
00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:20,719
it somewhere else. I think that's a good note to

1194
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,360
leave on, right, Always shop around, try to get the

1195
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,000
best number. And Matt and I will be back in

1196
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:30,000
the morning again. One more programming note for tomorrow. Two

1197
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:33,760
shows for me for my baseball peeps. We are back

1198
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:38,039
myself Tokyo, Brandon Brian Leonard, nine am Eastern, first Total

1199
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:40,760
basis of the year. We'll talk Yankees, giants, and then

1200
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,480
we are answering the rest of the time. We're just

1201
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,800
gonna answer questions about futures, win totals, whatever you guys

1202
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,960
want to talk about, whatever you.

1203
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: Guys ask about.

1204
00:58:50,039 --> 00:58:52,559
Speaker 1: Matt and I will be back ten am Eastern tomorrow

1205
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,519
to talk about the other three regions. Break those down

1206
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:58,920
and we'll give you guys a three team or tomorrow.

1207
00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: That's that will commit to her.

1208
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: Right now, we will figure out a sweet sixteen three

1209
00:59:03,039 --> 00:59:06,000
teamer for you guys tomorrow. Thank you guys for tuning in,

1210
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:08,760
as always, very much appreciate it. It is also five

1211
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,800
dollars Tuesday at wager Talk. I should point that out.

1212
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: Check that out.

1213
00:59:12,519 --> 00:59:16,159
Speaker 1: Everyone's got five dollars plays up for sale. And yeah,

1214
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thanks for tuning in. We'll see you guys in the morning.

