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<v Speaker 1>Lisa wasn't a believer in bigfoot when her and her

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<v Speaker 1>husband relocated to Arkansas, but when things started happening right

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<v Speaker 1>in her own backyard, she started to change her mind. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa is a Bigfoot witness who has had numerous sightings

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<v Speaker 1>on her Ozark property and has developed an understanding and

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge base of how they behave. But don't just take

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<v Speaker 1>her word for it. Bigfoot researchers and outsiders have visited

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<v Speaker 1>the property and not only found evidence, but have had

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<v Speaker 1>their very own sasquatch sidings. Lisa shares her Bigfoot experiences

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<v Speaker 1>on this episode of Bigfoot Crossroads. How did all of

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<v Speaker 1>this start for you?

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<v Speaker 2>We had lived in California unwillingly for about probably thirty

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<v Speaker 2>some years, and when my husband's job went remote, we

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<v Speaker 2>decided we wanted to move somewhere else, anywhere else, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>so we kind of just liked I guess because it

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<v Speaker 2>took blind faith and just took a leap of faith

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<v Speaker 2>and put our thing on the map and decided on

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas in the long run, and Arkansas went out, so

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<v Speaker 2>we moved here in I think it was April of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, and we live in the Ozark Mountains. In

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<v Speaker 2>prim Arkansas, and it's all pastures and and forces in

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<v Speaker 2>woods and stuff like that. It's very peaceful. Neighbors are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a distance away from each other. So we

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<v Speaker 2>have like three acres and it's it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of family area than the rest is all woods. In

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<v Speaker 2>the one section of the woods we call the haller.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first couple of years, we used to bush

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<v Speaker 2>hog it down and make it look really pretty. But

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<v Speaker 2>then we had a lot of deer and everything come.

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<v Speaker 2>So we just decided that we were gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give it back to nature because we love the deer

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<v Speaker 2>coming and all the other little creatures with it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that helped start our issue with Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever you let it grow back.

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<v Speaker 2>We let it grow back, and we were feeding. We

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<v Speaker 2>feed the squirrels in the foot in the front, and

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<v Speaker 2>the rabbits, and then we have we get tons and

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<v Speaker 2>tons of deer in the holler. We don't fill the

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<v Speaker 2>feeder all the time, but every once in a while

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<v Speaker 2>we feel it, you know, fill it up for the deer.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've we've so we've got we let the hall

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<v Speaker 2>grow back where you can barely see anything in it.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got the deer feeder. We occasionally feel feel, but

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<v Speaker 2>we also we don't hunt. So the animals have gotten

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where they know it's safe to come

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<v Speaker 2>into our area and we don't bother them because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't let other humans in it. The only time my

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<v Speaker 2>husband goes in there is to fill the deer feeder,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's basically it. So it is completely to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus there's water sources all around. We have a great,

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<v Speaker 2>big corridor that goes for miles. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dense wood, so it's like, as they say, the perfect

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<v Speaker 2>spot for these creatures. Plus we have berry patches, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean tons of berry patches. We have apples, so they

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<v Speaker 2>have their water source, they have fresh fruits, berries, deer,

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<v Speaker 2>small game, and they're completely left alone. Well, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know we were starting, you know, we were causing you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess in it vertally, you know, bringing them in

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<v Speaker 2>even more. We had no clue they Honestly, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in Bigfoot at the time. I just thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well whatever, you know. I never really took it seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember it was in twenty four My husband

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<v Speaker 2>and I were sitting in the back porch and this

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<v Speaker 2>really awful, awful, foul smell came out and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just overwhelming, and it's you know, we're like, what is

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<v Speaker 2>that because we're used to the chicken manure stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>the fields, right, and I think, you know what that

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<v Speaker 2>smells like I do. But it was not like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was different than that. It was skunky, musky, dead carcass.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just overwhelming, and then we heard this scream

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<v Speaker 2>like I've never heard in my life. It wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't elk, which we don't have here, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>mountain lion, it wasn't any of this area, nothing, And

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<v Speaker 2>it happened the one time, and it was close, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, okay. We both looked at each other, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck was that, and we're like, nah, that

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't happen. We're both imagining it. And we tried

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<v Speaker 2>to just blow it off. And about six or seven

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<v Speaker 2>minutes later, the smell came in again. It was so

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<v Speaker 2>much stronger, and another scream, and now we're like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something out there. It's really close. We don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and we were getting really uncomfortable, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when the hair on the back of your neck stands

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<v Speaker 2>up and all over your arms and stuff. Sure that

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<v Speaker 2>was happening. That was happening to both of us, and

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<v Speaker 2>we were both still in like this doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't commuting, It wasn't you know, We just it

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<v Speaker 2>just wasn't computing in our brains, and we're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is okay. And then remember the snow got so

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<v Speaker 2>close that our eyes were watering, and another scream came off,

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<v Speaker 2>and that screen was so close. It was maybe twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty yards away at the most, maybe even closer, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're like, okay, we're done, We're going inside. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember after that, because I wanted to know what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I started listening to every sound on the internet anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>I could try to figure out what it was. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to lie in the back of our

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<v Speaker 2>minds like could that be like one of those bigfoot things,

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<v Speaker 2>because none of the noises that we came up with

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<v Speaker 2>were even close to it. And it was so loud,

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<v Speaker 2>so enormous. I call it Godzilla the sound of Godzilla

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<v Speaker 2>because it was just so strong and so loud, and

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<v Speaker 2>the lung capacity alone was amazing. The only thing I

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<v Speaker 2>found close to it was a silver back what they

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<v Speaker 2>call it silver back ape or whatever, and when they're angry,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got some kind of aggression scream. It was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like that, but amplified one hundred times more. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's the closest thing I could find to it. So

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<v Speaker 2>we just let it go, and you know, life went on,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd hear the noises from time to time and

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<v Speaker 2>we were still unsure what it was, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't till January because we weren't looking for fort

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<v Speaker 2>prints or anything. You know, we were just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get on with life. My husband had to go in

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<v Speaker 2>the haller to refill the feeder, and he always takes

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<v Speaker 2>our lawnmower because it's, you know, it's easier to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>But because we had eight inches of snow, he decided

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<v Speaker 2>to walk. While he was walking out there, he found

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<v Speaker 2>a footprint. And nobody walks out there, and who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to walk out there barefoot? Makes no sense? And the

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<v Speaker 2>print was was really cuge. So he took a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of the print and then we're like, oh God, is

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<v Speaker 2>this possibly a big foot? So I took the pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked some of our neighbors who are really good hunters.

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<v Speaker 2>They had no clue. I ended up setting it to

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<v Speaker 2>different people that were, you know, in the field that

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<v Speaker 2>did analysis on footprints and stuff like that. I sent

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<v Speaker 2>it to a couple of other people, and with the

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<v Speaker 2>three people that I went to independently, they all came

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<v Speaker 2>back with juvenile bigfoot. So we're like, okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>possibly a bigfoot. Then things started escalating. Things around our

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<v Speaker 2>house got moved around, the screams got louder, more and

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<v Speaker 2>more footprints were showing up, not only in the holler,

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<v Speaker 2>but in the front of the house. At night. You

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<v Speaker 2>could hear banging. I guess, I guess they call it

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<v Speaker 2>like tree knocks. We'd hear banging on our wood fence

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<v Speaker 2>on this one side. And it got to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where it was just we feel like we're being bombarded

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<v Speaker 2>by you know, this this creature. So I was reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out for help because I was well, my husband was

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<v Speaker 2>really uncomfortable, but I was scared to death. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, is it's going to come in our house?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it going to break in? Is it going to

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<v Speaker 2>hurt us? It's going to hurt our animals. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we knew nothing about this creature. Absolutely nothing. So I

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<v Speaker 2>kept reaching out over the internet to try to find help,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't really getting anywhere with it. No one

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<v Speaker 2>had any real advice. No matter where when oh put

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<v Speaker 2>trail cams up, I put trail cams up useless. They

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<v Speaker 2>still came around. They just ignore the trail gams go

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<v Speaker 2>right around it, right, you know. And so we finally

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<v Speaker 2>had to just keep doing things. First we started with

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<v Speaker 2>motion lights and we put it around our property, thinking, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to solve the problem. And it was weird because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think a couple days later, by everemotion light

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<v Speaker 2>we had where and there's like they're from on trees

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<v Speaker 2>or next to trees. The branches were broken on the trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single one had a big branch broken. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is my belief. They knew what those things were,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said up they they were putting like some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of perimeter. They knew they didn't cross. Just turn

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<v Speaker 2>on those motion lights, because how did every single motion

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<v Speaker 2>we put up, Oh my god, I think eight motion

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<v Speaker 2>lights if not more, And why would something be broken

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<v Speaker 2>by every single motion light? Just didn't make any sense,

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<v Speaker 2>and the problems were still happening because the lights weren't

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<v Speaker 2>going on, they would go around it. So eventually we

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<v Speaker 2>put on big spot lights of floodlights all around our house.

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<v Speaker 2>We had the electric company coming one of those big

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<v Speaker 2>ones on the telephone poles.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, a Boer light.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So what we do is we have them facing

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<v Speaker 2>in towards our home and nothing's facing out like into

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<v Speaker 2>the wood area. We leave that completely dark and we

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<v Speaker 2>leave that to them. And it's taken i'd say maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a year at that time for them to finally understand, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is your area, this is our area. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>cross our area. We've got no problem. And up to now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is over two years later, they don't cross those boundaries.

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<v Speaker 2>Now they'll go in the front yard and walk across it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, they don't come they'll come home maybe

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<v Speaker 2>probably three feet to the house, but to the front porch.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've never gone on our porch. You know. The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing weird they did was we have garbage cans

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<v Speaker 2>on our front to the side of our porch and

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<v Speaker 2>they're in a little enclosure and we've been here four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Never once have those things ever fallen out ever through

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<v Speaker 2>any storm. And as you know, like where you live

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<v Speaker 2>you get heavy winds during rains and downpours, never ever

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<v Speaker 2>fallen out. My husband and I left one day and everything

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<v Speaker 2>was intact, and we came home and on the side

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<v Speaker 2>of our house by the porch, one of the garbage

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<v Speaker 2>cans was out of the enclosure and the lid was

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<v Speaker 2>put on, but it was put completely upside down in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the driveway. Okay, now, okay, now, if

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<v Speaker 2>that thing fell out, it would have fallen out, the

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<v Speaker 2>lid would have fallen off, and it would have laid sideways.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was completely intact, turned upside down and just

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<v Speaker 2>put in the middle of the driveway. And we checked.

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<v Speaker 2>There were no claw prints, no you know, marked from

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<v Speaker 2>a bear or anything like that. It was just neatly

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<v Speaker 2>put there. And then we started noticing thing after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Things were moved around and it's like, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're playing games. When my husband would go to the workshop,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they would do their whooping and their little you know,

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<v Speaker 2>roar and wood knocks. But one thing we did do

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<v Speaker 2>when we were trying to make safety for our houses.

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<v Speaker 2>If if my husband would go to the workshop or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>he would carry a gun. It wasn't to hurt anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just in case for protection. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even when he went to the haller. We still do

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<v Speaker 2>that to this day, though things have changed immensely since

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning. But I really think it's because of a

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<v Speaker 2>learning process. I pretty much getting to know how these

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<v Speaker 2>believe the first sighting I saw physically of them, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have to look on my diary, but I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get it in front of me. I believe it was

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<v Speaker 2>right before summer, right when it was warming up. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember we had a new puppy and I was sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in our living room, but we have those class doors

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<v Speaker 2>to go outside, the sliding glass doors, and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>looking out in something really dark caught my eye and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, what's that, And of course humans we're curious.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to look at the window. There's one of

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<v Speaker 2>them standing straight up right there in our holler, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mind his own business, his back towards me. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>staring at it and complete disbelief, like I'm seeing what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing. I could see him from him or her, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>from the torso up and it was doing something in

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<v Speaker 2>front of it, and then it took like two steps

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<v Speaker 2>and it was gone. It was just gone. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>those steps must have at that time been enormous. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was the first time I saw. The second time

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<v Speaker 2>was when our berries were in. We have a back

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<v Speaker 2>porch which we sit on all the time daily. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we always do it. I do it during the

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<v Speaker 2>day when my husband's working, and we go out every

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<v Speaker 2>night with our dogs and they run around and it's

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<v Speaker 2>our face family time. And it was another day I

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<v Speaker 2>was out there on the porch by myself and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there and I thought there was a rock in

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<v Speaker 2>a really huge rock in our hallers, Like, how could

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<v Speaker 2>there be this huge brown rock in our haller? It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make any sense. It wasn't there before, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's within all the foiliage, and it's like that is

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<v Speaker 2>like really really strange. And next thing I know, this

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<v Speaker 2>rock danns straight up walks away takes big, humongous steps.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm screaming because I was completely caught off guard. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't care. It just like kept going on about its business.

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<v Speaker 2>But those footsteps were so huge and the swing of

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<v Speaker 2>its arms were really huge. I remember it was dark brown,

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<v Speaker 2>slender but muscular. It wasn't big in fat or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and had the dark fur. I could not

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<v Speaker 2>see its space because of the back, but the gate

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<v Speaker 2>of its walk was just I would have to take

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<v Speaker 2>three or four steps just to make one of those

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<v Speaker 2>steps easily, I mean easily.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely a different one than the first one you saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from what we've figured out over time. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>there are two juveniles, one gray one and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>a female. I haven't seen her, but i've her. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guestimating it's a female, but it's weird because she's it

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<v Speaker 2>her well, I'm going to say her. Her scream is

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<v Speaker 2>different than theirs. And for some reason, you get this

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<v Speaker 2>like maternal like hey you better get back here now

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. You know. It just has the commanding

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<v Speaker 2>presence of like a female, a mother. But I can't

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<v Speaker 2>say for certain. I'm just going on my observations, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And as time gone on, we had I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know, NA North American would a conservatory conservatory? Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they came out because I wanted to find anything out

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<v Speaker 2>I could about this. I'm the kind of person I

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<v Speaker 2>have to know everything about something. If it's affecting my family.

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<v Speaker 2>So they came out. They did a really long investigation

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<v Speaker 2>and they found their evidence, and they found trails, they

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<v Speaker 2>found tracks, they found everything they needed to prove that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that you have an active Bigfoot location. It's like oh goodie,

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<v Speaker 2>like yes, but we had. We had also found out

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<v Speaker 2>because I had told a few neighbors and and people

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<v Speaker 2>around us. At the same time we had found our

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<v Speaker 2>first original footprints. A farmer behind us aways also found

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<v Speaker 2>tracks and he took a picture and it was sent

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<v Speaker 2>to us. And another neighbor had tracks and told us

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<v Speaker 2>about it. So in time with the within the two

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<v Speaker 2>years we have found it, they come from one area

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<v Speaker 2>and completely go through I mean the whole our town

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<v Speaker 2>of Prim. They cross right through our town of Prim

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<v Speaker 2>into into Woodrow. We had one people that live maybe

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<v Speaker 2>two miles away from us. They I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>like nine months ago now. They had bought a house,

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<v Speaker 2>moved in and their son was either in the backyard

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<v Speaker 2>or looking out the window, and they have a creek

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<v Speaker 2>and he noticed something dark leaning down in the creek

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't know what it was, and he said

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<v Speaker 2>it stood up and walked away. He said it was

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<v Speaker 2>described exactly what I did, dark brown, lender, furry, he goes.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew it wasn't a bear, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just walked away like nothing, big steps, so we know

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<v Speaker 2>it travels well, they travel that way. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>stay here a lot because we you know, we leave

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<v Speaker 2>it empty. We don't allow people who're not hunters. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>around us except for in this little area that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going through, there's no hunting, which gives them, you know, first,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got an easy access to hide well while walking.

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<v Speaker 2>They have the food, they have the water that they

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<v Speaker 2>have a place to sleep anywhere they need to. They

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<v Speaker 2>have everything they need while they're traveling to wherever they're

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<v Speaker 2>traveling to and from, if that makes any sense, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. And they have people to watch they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are yeah, yeah, oh yes, entertainment that is

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<v Speaker 2>that is one hundred percent true. In the winter especially

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<v Speaker 2>and in certain days during the week, my husband watched

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<v Speaker 2>certain things and I come in the bedroom and I

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<v Speaker 2>play on my computer, but I always have the TV

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<v Speaker 2>on just because. And it took us a year to

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<v Speaker 2>open up our curtains and stuff again to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we felt safe. So we keep our curtains open now

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<v Speaker 2>and in the warmer months until we put the air

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<v Speaker 2>conditioner in. We have our winges open, so I'll have

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<v Speaker 2>the TV on and be doing stuff, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for bed, I would turn off the TV

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, turn off the lights, and we get

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<v Speaker 2>these little pebbles. We would be thrown at the window,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like okay, and it's a big six foot

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<v Speaker 2>fence in order to get it over there and hit

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<v Speaker 2>our windows. Nothing hard enough to break it, but just enough,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to you can hear it hits the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went outside and see a little pile of rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>So I believe, and they've done this many times now

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<v Speaker 2>that they want the TV back on. I really truly

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<v Speaker 2>believe it. I honestly truly do. And I've noticed there's definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, at least four because sometimes I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting out back or even in the front and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear they have a very straight whistle. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>solid off key whistle. It's hard to describe. And you

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<v Speaker 2>hear it at one end of the property, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you hear another one coming from the other end of

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<v Speaker 2>the property, and they slowly get closer and closer together.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's one form of their communication when

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to, you know, get back together with each

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<v Speaker 2>other from probably going off on what they were doing before.

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<v Speaker 2>So they'll keep whistling until their whistles get close enough

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<v Speaker 2>and then it finally stops. But sometimes when I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>the back sitting on the porch, they'll whistle at I

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<v Speaker 2>believe me. And it took time. But sometimes when I

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<v Speaker 2>whistle back at them, they'll return the whistle. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>taken a long time to get to. But now, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I've seen them, oh my god, oh jeez, seven

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<v Speaker 2>or eight times we've had had guests on our property

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<v Speaker 2>that's seen I know they've seen the gray one for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had the investigators have some encounters with them as well.

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<v Speaker 2>They found footprints, of course, made cast. My favorite thing

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<v Speaker 2>was the knuckle print they found. I really thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was really cool. So they took a picture and they

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<v Speaker 2>casted that. The Norwalk guy found hair samples. Some came back.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Mountain lion and bear, but one

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<v Speaker 2>came back. They didn't know. They couldn't. They said they

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't know. So we have no clue what that

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<v Speaker 2>hair was. But you know, they've found so much evidence

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<v Speaker 2>that they're here. The other day, we were supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>have an investigation on Saturday and it got canceled at

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<v Speaker 2>the last minute. And I had told my husband ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of time, well, investigators, come, I want you to go

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<v Speaker 2>see if the berries are in, because I said, I can.

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<v Speaker 2>They're back. I know, I can. I can feel them.

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<v Speaker 2>I can. I saw them. What was it last week?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the two of them. I said, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the berries are in cound. You just check to see

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<v Speaker 2>if the berries are in. Well, the investigators didn't come,

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<v Speaker 2>but my husband had to go to the workshop, so

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<v Speaker 2>he went back to right behind our our workshop area

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<v Speaker 2>that starts the berries, and he walked up and said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the beerry's in. He goes, there's a great footprint right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yep, I knew they were here. They

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<v Speaker 2>loved the berries. They just I mean, they'll be here

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<v Speaker 2>as long as those berries are here. They're they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be like crazy during the summer. They love the berries.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we have the apple tree in full bloom

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to love that as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they love the fruit as much as the other you know,

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<v Speaker 2>animals and stuff they eat which I'm not. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>they eat deer. We've had it. In one investigation. They

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<v Speaker 2>found I don't know how to describe it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a tree and they had like a limb out of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but bones were put on it, and we believe that

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<v Speaker 2>we believe that was a territorial marker. I'm almost positive

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I mean, why else would you put bones on?

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<v Speaker 2>And we don't have neighbors around to play jokes everyone here,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're really busy with their lives. Plus, how

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<v Speaker 2>are they going to know to put that in the woods?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And for people to find that that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>People around here don't play games, and people don't around here.

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<v Speaker 2>People respect other people's property. Unless you have the permission

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<v Speaker 2>to go in it, you never go in it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's people are so respectful about other people's property alignes here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it just blows my mind. You know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like people around here would play any kind of practical

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<v Speaker 2>joke of any kind. It's just not the nature of

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<v Speaker 2>anyone around here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, i mean you've seen them, so you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>they're there, and that kind of change his perspectives a

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<v Speaker 1>bit or at least it did with me once I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that they were there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got to see it, you've got to feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to experience in order for your brain to

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<v Speaker 2>comprehend it. Didn't you feel about me?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? For sure? It definitely made things, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>easier to look for, but it's more like easier to notice.

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<v Speaker 2>It just helps your mind accept it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know that these things for instant, the bones

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<v Speaker 1>in the trees, you now know that, Okay, well this

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<v Speaker 1>is a possibility now where before you would have just

415
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<v Speaker 1>written it has to be a person or just some

416
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>random weird occurrence, But now you know they're there, so

417
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 1>now okay, well they could have done this, and then

418
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>your brain starts working, right, why are they doing it?

419
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Why did they put that there? Do you notice any

420
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>change in their behavior?

421
00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean from the very beginning, like I said,

422
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 2>extremely were extremely fearful of them. We thought they were

423
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be aggressive, you know, and the streaming and

424
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:10.640
<v Speaker 2>it just it was overwhelming that as time got on.

425
00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm honestly, I don't know if this is gonna make sense.

426
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I honestly feel like they're prospective of us because I

427
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>think there's a mutual respect for each other, because hey,

428
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>look we're going to give you this land. We're going

429
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>to leave you alone. We're gonna let you do your thing.

430
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:32.039
<v Speaker 2>You just let us do ours. Will respect you, you

431
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.519
<v Speaker 2>respect us. And they have done that. I mean, it's

432
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>funny because now all the I would say, other apex

433
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>creatures like mountain lions, bears, even the coyote, will not

434
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 2>come on our property anymore. They will go around our property,

435
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:50.759
<v Speaker 2>but they will not go on our property. I mean

436
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I can hear the coyotes nightly, but they don't dare

437
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.680
<v Speaker 2>come on our property. They don't, they won't. They just refuse.

438
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Deer will come on our property. I mean armadillo's you know,

439
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>all the small creatures come on and they're happy. I mean,

440
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.599
<v Speaker 2>they're running around like crazy. They feel safe here. But

441
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the larger, more aggressive animals will not come anywhere near

442
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.799
<v Speaker 2>the property. And I honestly believe it has to do

443
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 2>with them, I really truly do. And I think I

444
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.440
<v Speaker 2>feel I mean, I've gone from being fearful to feeling

445
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:28.119
<v Speaker 2>comfortable with them that if they ever just left, it

446
00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>would be emptiness. There would be an emptiness because we're

447
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.039
<v Speaker 2>so they're so part of our life now that it

448
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>would be completely empty without them, if that makes any sense.

449
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And they leave your animals alone.

450
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, let that's the perfect example. We have a puppy.

451
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>He's a Saint Wiler. He's Saint Bernard and Rottwiler. He's

452
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>a big boy. He's turning eighteen months now, and so

453
00:27:58.240 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>he wants to be our alpha. And the our dogs

454
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>go inside outside and sometimes they get scared of these creatures,

455
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 2>it's true, and they'll come on the porch and they'll hide.

456
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Other times they'll bark, depends on their mood. But these,

457
00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, the these I'm gonna call them creatures, have

458
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>never ever done anything to our dogs. And if our

459
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.319
<v Speaker 2>dogs are scared, they come right in. But I guess

460
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>it was I think it was two weeks ago. It

461
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>was during the day and I was in the bedroom

462
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 2>and our our puppy, we call him Squatch because he

463
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>has really big pause. Not because of Bigfoot, but you

464
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 2>know the big pause. That's so we called him Squatch,

465
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, which is kind of ironic because the bigfoots. Well. Anyways,

466
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.039
<v Speaker 2>he starts freaking out and I mean he doesn't freak out,

467
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and I come out of the bedroom. I go out

468
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to the porch and there's one of the bigfoot standing

469
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:53.359
<v Speaker 2>out on the other our fence, a little bit back,

470
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe three or four feet, And my stupid puppy thinks, well,

471
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm an alpha. I'm going to show you. And he's

472
00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.599
<v Speaker 2>going crazy on the fence, almost knocks over our fence

473
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's not a real strong fence in that side.

474
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just a barrier in case you had cows in

475
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 2>that area. And the bigfoot gets a little closer screams,

476
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 2>probably I think he's screaming at the dog, and the

477
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>dog's still going off. It doesn't stop, and then the

478
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot just stops dares at him for a minute. I'm like,

479
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 2>oh god, what's he gonna do, you know, like, because

480
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 2>he's just staring at the dog as the dog's barking

481
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and screaming, and then he just turns and walks away.

482
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, you know, even though the dog was

483
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 2>being aggressive to him, he was not being aggressive to

484
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the dog because I think he knew that the dog was,

485
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, still a puppy and just trying to show

486
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>his little alpha for the other dogs. But I remember

487
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.400
<v Speaker 2>he yelled at one of his big yells, and I'm

488
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>standing on the porch like I'm just like frozen solid

489
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 2>watching this because sometimes you just can't react because your

490
00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>mind is just trying so hard to keep up what's

491
00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.720
<v Speaker 2>going on, because it's still so unreal, you know. And

492
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 2>it just screamed at the dog, cared at it for

493
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 2>a while, and just walked away like it was nothing.

494
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm out of here. And then the dog

495
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 2>finally had to go get him, get him off the fence,

496
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he didn't do it. He hasn't done

497
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that since. But it was like, but that the creature

498
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>could have easily easily done something to the dog. If

499
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.519
<v Speaker 2>it was a nasty creature, it would have done something

500
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 2>for sure. But all I do was yell at the

501
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.039
<v Speaker 2>dog and leave, pretty much like saying, hey, dude, just

502
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>chill out now. This is cool. But I'll never forget

503
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 2>that because he's just he was just like, God, will

504
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>you shut up?

505
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you have more experiences than your husband?

506
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes? They will not show themselves to my husband. They refuse.

507
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Now my husban and carries a gun. I do not look.

508
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm sixty three years old. I can barely walk, so

509
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm very I guess for a creature, very meek. I'm

510
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>an easy target where my husband he's you know, he's younger,

511
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and he's he's few years younger, he's stronger, he's in

512
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 2>really good health. He carries the gun. But they do

513
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>play with him, and they're very protective of him as well,

514
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense. But it's funny because we've

515
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>had six other people come on our property and see

516
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>these creatures. The only thing my husband has seen is

517
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.559
<v Speaker 2>part of the gray one flashing by when he looked

518
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:40.359
<v Speaker 2>out the window, but he couldn't see the whole body.

519
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:43.759
<v Speaker 2>And that's all he's seen so far. But I swear

520
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they are playing games with him because sometimes when we

521
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:51.119
<v Speaker 2>go to the workshop, you can hear them in the

522
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>woods right next to us. They're literally planking us as

523
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>we go, you know, to the workshop and stuff like that. Now,

524
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like I said, i've seen him, my husband has it.

525
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>But when my husband on one of the last investigations,

526
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>they went deeper into the woods and my husband hurt

527
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 2>his knee really bad, so he was he couldn't the

528
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 2>next time they went out an investigation, he couldn't go

529
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:19.559
<v Speaker 2>as far as everybody else because he was really, really hurt.

530
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 2>So he said, look, I can only go this far,

531
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and they continued on somewhere else, so, which was stupid.

532
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>They left him by himself, but his knee got even worse.

533
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 2>So he started going home and he was wobbling and

534
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 2>he had to take a stick and everything to get home,

535
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 2>and one of them was following him. He said he

536
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:45.839
<v Speaker 2>could he could hear it. He could hear all the

537
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>tree limbs breaking and all the stuff everywhere, all the

538
00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 2>way to the house. And then when he got to

539
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the house, I think he said it he couldn't because

540
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 2>it was getting it was dark, so all he could

541
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>see when he got to the house were in our street.

542
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Called shortly, he said, all he could see down the

543
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>road were two eyes. He know, it's just two eyes.

544
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 2>He goes, and they saw us on the road, and

545
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:15.119
<v Speaker 2>then he goes, it just went back in. Now he thinks,

546
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>he thinks, it's like, well, they were stalking him and

547
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe they were going to hurt him. It's like, look,

548
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>and this is my opinion from dealing with this for

549
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 2>two years and seeing them and everything. If he was

550
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>by himself in these woods and it was dark, even

551
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>if it was like if they wanted to do anything

552
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>to him, they would have. I honestly think from what

553
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 2>I've seen and how they've evolved and how we've evolved

554
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:43.240
<v Speaker 2>with them over the time, that they were making sure

555
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 2>he got home to the house safely. That is truly

556
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, because that preacher literally came out in the

557
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>road showed him well, I mean, he couldn't see the figure.

558
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.200
<v Speaker 2>He could only see the eyes making sure that he's there,

559
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>and then he left and went away. Now that can

560
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>prove to you anytime he wanted to, he could have

561
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>jumped out and done anything he wanted, no problem. And

562
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>with my husband's condition at the time, how would he

563
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 2>be able to defend himself even though he had a gun,

564
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 2>could barely walk. And if there was because we know

565
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 2>there's more than one, if there were two following him,

566
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>one could have been from the behind, one could have

567
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>been from the front. You just never know. But there

568
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 2>was no aggression shown whatsoever. They were just following and watching,

569
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>and once he got home, they left. But like I said,

570
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that's that's just my opinion. But I truly believe they

571
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 2>had no ill intent whatsoever, absolutely none.

572
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure they would have helped, but it

573
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>sounds more like an escort than a stalking situation exactly.

574
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, I don't think they were gonna help, but like, yeah,

575
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I truly believe it's an ex escort, just to make

576
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>sure he got back to an area, you know, which

577
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.239
<v Speaker 2>was safe for him. I don't I don't know if

578
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>they would have helped, but I just figured it was

579
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:07.159
<v Speaker 2>an escort. I really truly did. And they seem I

580
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 2>noticed they seem to be more vocal after a storm,

581
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>and they're they're around more after a storm, a lot more,

582
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 2>which I don't understand why, but they are. And they're

583
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:25.599
<v Speaker 2>more quiet in the winter, but they're they're here more,

584
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>but more in the Holler area because in the winter,

585
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>my husband puts out tons of Christmas lights, I mean,

586
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, so they avoid the fly I mean,

587
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 2>trust me, we're known all over for his Christmas lights,

588
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>so they don't go around the front. And they're they're

589
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty quiet in the winter. But the only way you

590
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>know they're here in the winter is because the footprints

591
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, they're in the snow or in the

592
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 2>mud or stuff. That's how you know they're here. But

593
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.840
<v Speaker 2>for some reason, I don't know if it's because of

594
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>the cold, they're not as vocal. But spring, summer fall

595
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 2>there they could get really loud at times, but winter

596
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 2>you hardly hear them. You know they're there, but you

597
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 2>hardly hear them. They're just really quiet for some reason,

598
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.880
<v Speaker 2>which I don't know. Like I said, I don't know

599
00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:21.360
<v Speaker 2>if it's because of the weather, I don't know. But

600
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that's what I've noticed in the last couple of winters.

601
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting. A lot of times in situations like this,

602
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>they'll be more active at a specific time of year,

603
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>but your situation really sounds like they're just there year round.

604
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they are.

605
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 1>You said no hunting on your area? Is there public

606
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 1>hunting around your area? Anywhere?

607
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Private? But you know private land, so, but all the

608
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 2>other private land, they're big hunters, all of them except

609
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:05.440
<v Speaker 2>for across for us, and if you cross our yard

610
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>across the street, that's all pasture. So I don't believe

611
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>people hunt in the pasture. I've never seen it. Behind us.

612
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>It's an older woman, she doesn't hunt or anything, and

613
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much property she has. Then behind

614
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.079
<v Speaker 2>that it's all you know, forest and woods. Then it

615
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 2>hits I guess the main highway eventually, and then after

616
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 2>that it's all woods and another farm and then more woods,

617
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>so you've got you know, tons and tons of woods

618
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 2>which they can get around very easily that people don't

619
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 2>hunt in. Plus I hear there's caves and all kinds

620
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of you know, areas I have I've never been back there,

621
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:54.559
<v Speaker 2>but there's slopes and hills and I guess little mountains

622
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, and I would you call it

623
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>ravines and things like that. There's one ravine supposedly I've

624
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.519
<v Speaker 2>heard of further down that people can throw things in

625
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and they just disappear and you never see them again,

626
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:16.159
<v Speaker 2>which I don't know. I know it's down that way,

627
00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>but I've never seen it, never been to it. So

628
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 2>there's I mean, there's plenty, plenty of places for them

629
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.599
<v Speaker 2>to live. I mean they have, you know. I think

630
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 2>they showed themselves at times because they want to show themselves.

631
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 2>They want us to know they're here, and I don't.

632
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I really don't think they fear me, because what am

633
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I going to do. I'm a little old lady. I'm

634
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.760
<v Speaker 2>not kid to do anything to them. I'm not, you know,

635
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And I think they get that where my husband is more.

636
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 2>I know they like to play games. Of them because

637
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 2>during during the investigations, I guess, as some of the

638
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 2>investigators had said, because we only let one group of

639
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>investigators here, and I guess call it like pika glue,

640
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>where these these creatures will will follow them and they

641
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>can hear them and track them, and we've got some

642
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>they got some pictures of their eyes shine recently. I

643
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.599
<v Speaker 2>think it was at the last investigation and when they

644
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.679
<v Speaker 2>went and when they're done, they go back and they evaluate,

645
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, what they find and the eye shine because

646
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.199
<v Speaker 2>the eye shine was coming from down to the bottom

647
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 2>of the hill. When they re enacted it, they the

648
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:34.159
<v Speaker 2>eye height was about it seven feet high and there's

649
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>no trees for it to grab on, no rocks for

650
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:39.199
<v Speaker 2>to stand on. So it's not an owl. It's you know,

651
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not it's not a it's not a bear now

652
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.679
<v Speaker 2>it's and it's not the first time they've but this

653
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:49.599
<v Speaker 2>is the first time they've actually got the picture of

654
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the eye shine. And the whole time they were being

655
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.079
<v Speaker 2>they knew they were being followed. And during the investigations

656
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot they get followed and one of the investigators

657
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I armber him saying that it was literally playing peekaboo

658
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 2>with him going behind the trees. This is when they

659
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.880
<v Speaker 2>also learned that they do a spider crawl that they

660
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.800
<v Speaker 2>get all the way down and they'll they'll use the

661
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.239
<v Speaker 2>spider call to move around so that, you know, they

662
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>go from however tall they are, to really low on

663
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the ground and travel that way. That's how they feel

664
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that the knuckle print came to about that it must

665
00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>have been you know, down in that spider crawl position

666
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 2>or at least sitting, and that's the way it got

667
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 2>up and it just dug its knuckles into the dirt

668
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:37.280
<v Speaker 2>and into the mud. I mean, my favorite evidence besides

669
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the hair. You know, footprints. We don't even take pictures

670
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of them or cast them because anymore because they're all

671
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>the time, so that that sounds silly, But to us,

672
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 2>it's just no big deal anymore. It's like, yeah, you

673
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>want footprints, go out, you'll find some. It's just it

674
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 2>is what it is, you know, it just becomes the norm,

675
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.039
<v Speaker 2>which is something I never thought i'd say in my

676
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>entire life.

677
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it happens, you know, I know it, like

678
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:10.519
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, I'm sure it sounds unbelievable to a lot

679
00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of people. But it's in my experience that there's just

680
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>some places out there, some situations out there where it

681
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 1>is that way, especially in this part of the country.

682
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I thought this was new, but we

683
00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 2>found out through stories because when this first came out

684
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that we had stuff here, of course we were rida

685
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 2>killed and made fun of, you know, we're crazy whatever,

686
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. But then people that lived in prim

687
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, that you know, people knew, came

688
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.079
<v Speaker 2>out and said, well, you know what, let me tell

689
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you my story. And and also then people are started

690
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>backing off because here's people they knew who lived here

691
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.440
<v Speaker 2>all their life that are finally starting to speak up.

692
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.840
<v Speaker 2>And we heard a story about the property behind us

693
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 2>that thirty years ago they were hearing the screams and

694
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. So I don't think that this honestly

695
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 2>just happened two years ago. I think it's after we

696
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 2>let it, things starting to grow, the yard and stuff

697
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.119
<v Speaker 2>like that that we honestly started to notice. And the screen,

698
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I think they just started getting more vocal then, kind

699
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.519
<v Speaker 2>of like announcing that they're there. Yeah, in the beginning

700
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:27.840
<v Speaker 2>that hey, this is our territory. You know, you keep

701
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>your distance kind of thing. I think, honestly that because

702
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 2>the screaming still comes down then. But I think it's

703
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>between them now, you know, especially because they scream a

704
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>lot at night, off and on, because but I think

705
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:45.199
<v Speaker 2>they're you know, like calling to each other, if that

706
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>makes any sense. Now, it's not like they're just screaming

707
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:49.840
<v Speaker 2>for no reason.

708
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 1>Right. Do they act differently whenever you have the researchers

709
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>out there.

710
00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're playful. You know that sounds stupid. They're very

711
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 2>curious and they'll come in because they want to know

712
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. Now, we've had several researchers, these reach

713
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>researchers have some kind of encounter or experience with them,

714
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.519
<v Speaker 2>which is like, well, that's what you came for. So

715
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad. Now we've had uh, let's see, Larry and

716
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Liz saw the gray one full body gray one, so

717
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 2>they saw that one completely. We've had I think four

718
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.960
<v Speaker 2>or five of them when they were in the field

719
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 2>have had some kind of encounter with them. So yeah,

720
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I think they're very curious, very curious.

721
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask some questions about the gray one. Now,

722
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts are that this is a juvenile How big

723
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 1>is the gray one.

724
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>No, the gray one I think is an elderly one.

725
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.559
<v Speaker 2>He's eight. He's at least eight. The darker brown ones,

726
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the slenderer ones, those are the juveniles, I'm I'm sure

727
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 2>of it. And the gray one he's about eight foot tall.

728
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.639
<v Speaker 2>The other one's about seven foot but he's about eight

729
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:13.519
<v Speaker 2>foot tall and he's wider. I just get the feeling

730
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:18.079
<v Speaker 2>he's older, and I don't see him that often. I

731
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.480
<v Speaker 2>mean that one time he literally was coming straight towards

732
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 2>the house and we just sat there watching him come

733
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>towards us, and I remember Larry called on the walkie

734
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:29.840
<v Speaker 2>talkie to the guys because they were in the This

735
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:33.360
<v Speaker 2>is during the investigation. So they came running and when

736
00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:35.760
<v Speaker 2>they came running, we turned our had to look at them,

737
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 2>and then the creature was gone. It just it was gone.

738
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 2>But we all three saw it at the exact same time,

739
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:46.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's like, okay, why is it gray?

740
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if they age and turn

741
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 2>gray or it's just gray, but I don't know. I

742
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 2>just get the feeling gets older. Now. Footprints. I think

743
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the biggest footprint my husband found, well, they I think

744
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 2>them and my husband found it was twenty or twenty

745
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.840
<v Speaker 2>two inches long, and the small and then then they're

746
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 2>smaller ones. So I think the small smaller ones are juvenile.

747
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I know the one is definitely the gray one. But

748
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>then there's one in between that, which I think could

749
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 2>be the one that I'm not sure if I've seen

750
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 2>it or not, but I think maybe a female.

751
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>And is that track curved?

752
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't remember. I couldn't tell.

753
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>You pay attention to the track. If if you draw

754
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a line from the little toe to the hill, does

755
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>it go through to the middle of the hill.

756
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I can't remember. I know one, the

757
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:56.559
<v Speaker 2>very first one we took was definitely curved. It was

758
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.960
<v Speaker 2>major curved, like maybe that something happened to its foot.

759
00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>The other ones, I don't know. I never really paid attention.

760
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Is a big footprint, I mean I have I think

761
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.800
<v Speaker 2>we have some pictures up on the Biggie foot page.

762
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll have to go look. And I mean, this

763
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 1>isn't like a rule. People who have been doing this

764
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.920
<v Speaker 1>much longer than I have that I learned a tremendous

765
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>amount from had the belief that some of the females

766
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:34.679
<v Speaker 1>have more of a curved track than the straight track

767
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that you see so often you see less of those tracks.

768
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>And they had their reasons for all of this, which

769
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I won't get into, but I'm sure that there is.

770
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>If you've got juveniles and you've got you know, males

771
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 1>running around, that there's at least one female somewhere. I

772
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>promise you know.

773
00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 2>The first track that he found it had I know

774
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.079
<v Speaker 2>that on the big foot page because it's in snow,

775
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>but you could tell there was a there was a

776
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>big curve to it where to the point where we

777
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.360
<v Speaker 2>thought that maybe you know, it had it had hurt

778
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 2>something in its foot because it was a huge curve.

779
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.679
<v Speaker 2>But I mean the other footprints I'd have to ask

780
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 2>my husband because I just really never paid attention. I mean,

781
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I could send you some pictures, that's no problem, but

782
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I couldn't tell you because I really didn't

783
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 2>pay attention for a curve or not. I just saw

784
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 2>a big footprint.

785
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:33.559
<v Speaker 1>What about head shape? Are they conical shaped or around it.

786
00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Thin? Like you know that little slope on top because

787
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I forgot what it's called not I wouldn't call it

788
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:45.400
<v Speaker 2>a conehead, but it goes up. There's a certain word

789
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.199
<v Speaker 2>for it. But I can't think of it like a crust. Yeah,

790
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess you would say. Yeah, the ones like the

791
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.599
<v Speaker 2>two juveniles, they're more slender. They're about seven foot tall.

792
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>The brown hair, the brown thick hair. But yeah, their

793
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.159
<v Speaker 2>head goes up to a point, and their faces from

794
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>what I can tell, you know, incest or what do

795
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:12.679
<v Speaker 2>you call it, kind of smushed in.

796
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Have you gotten a good look at the face?

797
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.679
<v Speaker 2>Not really, not from the distance. I mean you can

798
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>get the body and get the arms, but the face

799
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 2>is still a bit blurry, if that makes if I've described,

800
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just hard. It's just really hard to get the features.

801
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, I can tell it's in set, but I

802
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 2>can't get the whole thing even when it's it's looking there.

803
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's because my brain's not processes

804
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 2>processing it, or it's the distance, because I think the

805
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 2>furthest the way I've seen him is maybe thirty yards.

806
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 2>That would be the farthest because they come in. They

807
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:57.079
<v Speaker 2>come in. The first footprints that my husband found were

808
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>right at our fence to our backyard, next to which

809
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 2>so it's like they were standing next to the tree

810
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and watching. Which at first, when you know, when this

811
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 2>first happened. That really scared the heck out of me,

812
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:12.519
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, what are they going to do? Because

813
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.840
<v Speaker 2>we only have like a little cow fence in between

814
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the yard where we have our dogs and our family space,

815
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and you could not my dog to knock it over

816
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>here really wants too. And so we get these flipprints,

817
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and so this thing has been i mean literally watching

818
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>our house from a backyard, which from there is maybe

819
00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:36.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty yards from our porch. I'm sorry, that's scared the

820
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.880
<v Speaker 2>living life out of me. You know, it made me

821
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 2>fear for my safe I honestly felt like other people,

822
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I want to leave. I want to I want to go.

823
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be here anymore. I don't feel safe.

824
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean when we first this first happened, we we

825
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>shut the windows, we shut the curtains, we locked in

826
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the blinds, doors were always locked. I mean, we literally

827
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 2>were a prisoner in our owner, in our own house

828
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 2>because we well, I particularly was scared to death because

829
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.519
<v Speaker 2>we didn't know how to protect ourselves against these creatures.

830
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.119
<v Speaker 2>We couldn't find any real help out there. I mean

831
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.840
<v Speaker 2>when I went everywhere looking for help, and it took

832
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.280
<v Speaker 2>us over you know, time to figure out how to

833
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>do it. That's another reason I did that that the

834
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Biggie sorry, the Biggie Foot Facebook page, because I had

835
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of questions and I needed them answers. So

836
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 2>over the two years, I've been gathering information and plus

837
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 2>learning from the experiences of what we live and taking

838
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>that with some scientific things found, and you know, and

839
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 2>plus I read all the eyewitness reports, and you know,

840
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I've done a lot of research in the last two

841
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 2>years because this is survival for us, where other people

842
00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it's a hobby. We have to live this every day.

843
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.280
<v Speaker 2>So I put the biggy Foot page up where questions

844
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 2>of people as I'd given the best or I could

845
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.760
<v Speaker 2>give them by research, experience, et cetera. This way, you know,

846
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:07.639
<v Speaker 2>they have a question, they can at least look it

847
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 2>up and get an idea that they might now I

848
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:12.159
<v Speaker 2>want to believe it. That's fine, but at least they

849
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.559
<v Speaker 2>have something to start off with and information that is

850
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 2>useful and helpful. And that's the reason I started that

851
00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:23.440
<v Speaker 2>page because so many people had questions that they had

852
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 2>no answers to that they couldn't find. So I try

853
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to answer any question that comes that is given to

854
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.159
<v Speaker 2>me or comes my way, you know, to give them

855
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 2>on the most intelligent and most research answer I can.

856
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 2>And like protection, you know, anything I can any question

857
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>that comes about, I'm going to find a way to

858
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.639
<v Speaker 2>answer it. If I have to research it for weeks,

859
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll do it till I find, you know an answer

860
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:52.760
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense and is you know, a credible, intelligent answer,

861
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to be biased about it. I'm

862
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.920
<v Speaker 2>going to give the correct answer even if you know,

863
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>like I believe in Bigfoot, but some questions you have,

864
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 2>the way they're answered, it doesn't prove or deny it,

865
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense. But I'm going to give

866
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the honest, one hundred percent answer, you know. And that's

867
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.559
<v Speaker 2>why I put up that site, because I don't want

868
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>people to go through what my husband and I went

869
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 2>through in the beginning, not knowing and being scared. And

870
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.000
<v Speaker 2>how do I keep a house protected? What do I do? Now?

871
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I have the perfect answer for that because we lived it,

872
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 2>we know it. How I know how to protect my family.

873
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 2>I know how to protect my house. I know how

874
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 2>to protect my pets, but we had to learn it ourselves.

875
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 2>But now if they have that question, all they got

876
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 2>to do is look on here. This is what you

877
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.800
<v Speaker 2>can do. This is how you keep your house tafe,

878
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 2>This is how you keep your family safe. This is

879
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 2>what they do. I mean any question. Like I said,

880
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I will try to answer any question, because I think

881
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.039
<v Speaker 2>the more information we get out there to help the

882
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:56.599
<v Speaker 2>people in I call it our community, the better it is.

883
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.599
<v Speaker 2>Now if they want to choose to believe it totally

884
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:05.239
<v Speaker 2>up to the I do not not. You know, I

885
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 2>do not. What would you say? I don't care. If

886
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:11.840
<v Speaker 2>a person doesn't believe in Bigfoot, that is their belief.

887
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 2>That is their right, and I will not say anything

888
00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 2>against them. They have a right to have their belief.

889
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 2>And if people believe in Bigfoot, you know, I get it,

890
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I understand it. I'm there with you. But I'm not

891
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:26.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna dog anybody else who doesn't believe in it. That

892
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:30.039
<v Speaker 2>is their choice, that is their right, And I can understand.

893
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.320
<v Speaker 2>If you don't see it, and you haven't heard it,

894
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:36.159
<v Speaker 2>and you haven't dealt with it, it's easy not to believe.

895
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I get that, and I'm just not gonna you know,

896
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna bully or bully anyone because of that.

897
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 1>After dealing with it for so long, Now, where are

898
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you at with it. What are you wanting to do

899
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>moving forward?

900
00:53:56.239 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Protect them is my most important thing now the research.

901
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to take a hold to that

902
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 2>for a while. We might do We have until August

903
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 2>probably fifteenth, if we want to do an investigation, and

904
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that's it, and then that it won't be till spring.

905
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 2>And the only reason that we do investigations is to

906
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 2>gather evidence to just support the fact that the creature exists.

907
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 2>We don't go after the creature. We don't try to

908
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:27.400
<v Speaker 2>harm the creature. I mean, we've got hair samples, we've

909
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.360
<v Speaker 2>got knuckle prints, we've got footprints, we've got the trails,

910
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.079
<v Speaker 2>we've got the tracks, we've got other people's visuals and

911
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.480
<v Speaker 2>encounters with them. So we have all that stuff and

912
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that's what we do the investigations for to get the

913
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 2>evidence to show that there is the existence of these creatures.

914
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:49.360
<v Speaker 2>But we in no way are going to harm these creatures.

915
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:54.360
<v Speaker 2>So ours is just to continue to coexist. I don't

916
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like I said, we may have one investigation, but I've

917
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 2>also decided that if we're going to have another investigation,

918
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to try a different a different, a

919
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:12.559
<v Speaker 2>new team, someone fresh and professional to give them a chance,

920
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.320
<v Speaker 2>just you know, one time to come in. You know,

921
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.960
<v Speaker 2>we'll at my husband escort and stuff and let them.

922
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 2>But we want professionals like biologists, wildlife escorts, someone has

923
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 2>some kind of background that would you know that is

924
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:31.079
<v Speaker 2>good at gathering evidence because the more evidence they get

925
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.639
<v Speaker 2>we get, the more we learn from it and the

926
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:37.360
<v Speaker 2>more we can approve the existence. That's my thing. But

927
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:40.800
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, nobody comes on the property unless

928
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 2>they're invited on the property. It's not like we've made it. Hey,

929
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 2>you can come on look for bigfoot. That doesn't happen here.

930
00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:48.119
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a big no no.

931
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Have you personally experienced anything that would be considered paranormal.

932
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's hard to explain. I feel, after all

933
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:11.679
<v Speaker 2>this time, very attached to them, and I know when

934
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:17.199
<v Speaker 2>they're around, I just I know there's some extra sense

935
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and I can It's hard to explain it is I mean.

936
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:29.079
<v Speaker 2>And also I used to a long time ago, for

937
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:35.320
<v Speaker 2>thirty some years, I worked in the paranormal filled with

938
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.360
<v Speaker 2>ghosts because I can see and hear ghosts, which I

939
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.880
<v Speaker 2>still can to this day. So maybe that is part

940
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 2>of the connection I have to them. I'm not sure,

941
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:52.559
<v Speaker 2>because to me, it's a totally different thing. I think

942
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.599
<v Speaker 2>of them as an animal. I don't think. I don't

943
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 2>think of them as the paranormal. But at the same time,

944
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 2>I have this extra connection which I can't explain.

945
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people. First off, whenever you have

946
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:14.480
<v Speaker 1>people like yourself who own property where they coexist with

947
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 1>these things on a regular basis, you hear it there.

948
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You hear it from certain researchers that have spent decades

949
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:29.599
<v Speaker 1>doing this and actually go out into areas where they're at.

950
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.119
<v Speaker 1>They'll know when they're around. You can feel it. Yeah,

951
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.440
<v Speaker 1>you can feel when they're around. You can feel when.

952
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:38.599
<v Speaker 2>They leave, exactly.

953
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:42.679
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I have to compare it to is

954
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>how it feels whenever you're living in your home with

955
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>someone and they're at home with you, and then it

956
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:52.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of feels different. When they're not there and you're

957
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.079
<v Speaker 1>by yourself, it's empty.

958
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it feels empty, But when they're there, it feels full. Yeah,

959
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:02.519
<v Speaker 2>because I do feel that. It just you can tell

960
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 2>when they're there, and I can also tell when they're

961
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:11.559
<v Speaker 2>mad and when they're when they're calm, because I can

962
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.639
<v Speaker 2>tell sometimes they're really mad. I mean, I don't think

963
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.000
<v Speaker 2>at us, but they're mad about something or angry. And

964
00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I can also tell when they're they're very calm and peaceful,

965
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:24.719
<v Speaker 2>which is most of the time they're very very calm

966
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:28.039
<v Speaker 2>and peaceful, but there's sometimes maybe they agitate each other,

967
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:32.800
<v Speaker 2>but you can just feel they're not happy. They just

968
00:58:33.800 --> 00:58:36.440
<v Speaker 2>got that like, Okay, I'm not gonna even bother with

969
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>them today. I'm just gonna, you know, my my own business.

970
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:45.159
<v Speaker 2>And you can also tell when they're watching. You can

971
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:47.519
<v Speaker 2>always tell when they're well. I can always feel when

972
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:50.559
<v Speaker 2>they're watching, and even my husband has at times said

973
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:54.440
<v Speaker 2>he can feel them watching as well. You just even

974
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.599
<v Speaker 2>though you can't see them, well, there's really tell tale

975
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:03.480
<v Speaker 2>signs when they're here and they're really close. It goes

976
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 2>dead silent. No crickets, no birds, no nothing. It is

977
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.239
<v Speaker 2>completely dead silent. It is so creaky. I mean, there's

978
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:14.840
<v Speaker 2>not a noise out there. The only noise is myself

979
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and my husband or are dogs. And even the dogs

980
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:21.199
<v Speaker 2>will come up in the porch and just you know,

981
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 2>stay there and not go in the yard. But it

982
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:28.760
<v Speaker 2>is you hear nothing, absolutely nothing, and that's that's a

983
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Teltowel sign they're there. I mean, that's obvious. I always

984
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 2>tell people if you're somewhere in the woods and it

985
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>gets dead silent, and that's an apex predator and it

986
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 2>could be a big food as well. Now we don't.

987
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 2>We've had you know, reports of you know what they found,

988
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, it's on some mountain lyon hair on

989
00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:51.159
<v Speaker 2>our property. They found some bear. But we haven't had

990
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:55.039
<v Speaker 2>a bear here in like forever now, I mean, I

991
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 2>can't remember the last time there was a bear, a

992
00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.880
<v Speaker 2>mountain lion. I it's been a long time as well.

993
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, now, the coyotes literally go around our property.

994
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.880
<v Speaker 2>They won't even go on our property. And trust me,

995
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 2>we've got six dogs on our property. Big the coyote,

996
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.159
<v Speaker 2>especially during mating season, is going to want to come

997
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:18.199
<v Speaker 2>near a property that has six five female dogs. Yeah,

998
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:24.079
<v Speaker 2>for sure, they don't dare. They will not come anywhere near.

999
01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 2>And it's weird because we have in the area that

1000
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.320
<v Speaker 2>we can hear them that's more of an open field area,

1001
01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:34.239
<v Speaker 2>but they won't come in our wooded area. They just

1002
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:38.719
<v Speaker 2>completely avoid it, which to me is like weird.

1003
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen any orbs.

1004
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 2>When the gray the gray one appeared, I guess they

1005
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:55.119
<v Speaker 2>took some video or pictures. I can't remember what Matt said.

1006
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And in the picture you couldn't see the creature. All

1007
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:02.559
<v Speaker 2>they saw was an ORB in the exact spot. No,

1008
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:04.519
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen the picture. He told me about it.

1009
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:06.519
<v Speaker 2>He was supposed to send it to you, but he

1010
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 2>never did. He said, he said when they developed the

1011
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.440
<v Speaker 2>picture or a video, I'd have to ask him that

1012
01:01:12.599 --> 01:01:15.480
<v Speaker 2>there was just an orb and that was above the

1013
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:20.920
<v Speaker 2>gray one. Other than that, I've never seen an orb

1014
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.840
<v Speaker 2>other than that, and I didn't mean to see that one.

1015
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.039
<v Speaker 2>We the three of us, we saw a gray creature

1016
01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Clare's day. It was there, It was in front of us.

1017
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:36.079
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that far away. And when the video showed

1018
01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:40.679
<v Speaker 2>up or picture, there was just an orb, and it

1019
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.159
<v Speaker 2>was weird when they did want investigation, which I think

1020
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 2>this has nothing to do with that. But fairy rings

1021
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 2>were there on the property. We had a really big

1022
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.960
<v Speaker 2>one back by the workshop and a small one where

1023
01:01:56.400 --> 01:02:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that creature was. But I don't get into the face

1024
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.360
<v Speaker 2>fairy ring stuff, but those were there. I even have

1025
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:07.119
<v Speaker 2>a picture of the really big one. But you know,

1026
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:12.199
<v Speaker 2>our investigator try to tell us some story about fairy rings,

1027
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.280
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not really into that stuff. But that's just me.

1028
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Have groups reached out to you wanting to come and investigate.

1029
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, others have, but we had only allowed Matt. But

1030
01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:27.119
<v Speaker 2>like I said, we have one. We have a very

1031
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:31.039
<v Speaker 2>short window in August, and I'd like to try someone

1032
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 2>other than people that do podcasts, you know what I mean,

1033
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:39.199
<v Speaker 2>like a real group come out though that and them

1034
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 2>have found some wonderful evidence, wonderful evidence. I mean, they're

1035
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.519
<v Speaker 2>really good at finding evidence. So I give them that.

1036
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 2>But I'd like, you know, to have me like something

1037
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:51.400
<v Speaker 2>with more of a background.

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01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which would.

1039
01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Be nice because I really want to start cutting out

1040
01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>these these you know well that has been His group

1041
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.440
<v Speaker 2>have been very respectful. They only we only do it

1042
01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:05.920
<v Speaker 2>like a couple of times a year because we don't,

1043
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, we don't want to invade the space. And

1044
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.039
<v Speaker 2>when they are here, they're very respectful. My husband goes

1045
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.960
<v Speaker 2>out with them. You know, everything is done very you know,

1046
01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:19.519
<v Speaker 2>like I said, respectful. They don't you know, go out

1047
01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:22.800
<v Speaker 2>there and try to cause issues. They're just very quiet.

1048
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 2>They go look, they track, they're just trying to find evidence.

1049
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 2>They don't move anything around. They leave it as is,

1050
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 2>which is what we want you just leave it the

1051
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:36.760
<v Speaker 2>way you find it. That they have found some wonderful stuff.

1052
01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 2>So if you want to see the orb or have

1053
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.360
<v Speaker 2>any questions like that, Matt could give you all the

1054
01:03:41.400 --> 01:03:43.960
<v Speaker 2>answers because he has all the Like I said, I

1055
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.760
<v Speaker 2>think it's a video, I'm not positive, but Matt could

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01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 2>tell you.

1057
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd be really interested in seeing that. That's a

1058
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.960
<v Speaker 1>first for me. I've never heard that scenario before.

1059
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just ask Matt. I'm sure he'd be great. You know,

1060
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 2>he's he loves to help the community as well, and

1061
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:02.960
<v Speaker 2>he loves to share what he has. Oh, I'm sure

1062
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:03.360
<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't.

1063
01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:08.360
<v Speaker 1>The Heartbeat and the North American wood Ape Conservatives, those

1064
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 1>guys are about as credential as you can get whenever

1065
01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.119
<v Speaker 1>it comes to like scientific research and everything.

1066
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they after their investigation, they put their they put

1067
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:26.519
<v Speaker 2>they put our our our town well prim Arkansas on

1068
01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:32.360
<v Speaker 2>their national database as active. And plus the gentleman that

1069
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:34.920
<v Speaker 2>came out, his name was Caleb. They said, he said

1070
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.480
<v Speaker 2>there's a test that they want to do, but right

1071
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:41.000
<v Speaker 2>now it's so extremely expensive they can't do it. But

1072
01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you take a sample, and the sample, whatever the test

1073
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:50.360
<v Speaker 2>does can tell everything that's ever walked on your property,

1074
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:55.119
<v Speaker 2>been on the property environmental. Yeah, but I guess he

1075
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 2>said it's so extremely expensive. They can't they can't afford

1076
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.000
<v Speaker 2>that right now, but once they can, they want to

1077
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.519
<v Speaker 2>take a sample of the property, which they are more

1078
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:07.119
<v Speaker 2>than welcome to anytime. They were very respectful when they

1079
01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:09.679
<v Speaker 2>came here, you know, and he took time. He took

1080
01:05:09.719 --> 01:05:11.679
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time. It wasn't just he came an

1081
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 2>e leuct He came, and he came back and he

1082
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:18.440
<v Speaker 2>did a long interview with us. I mean, very credible,

1083
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 2>very respectful. You know. I really appreciated them coming out

1084
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.960
<v Speaker 2>because I wanted answers. Answers are really important to me.

1085
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:30.320
<v Speaker 2>If you don't have the answers, you don't know how

1086
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 2>to handle a situation. And this was completely unexpected, you know,

1087
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 2>unbelievable thing to try to, you know, maneuver. It really was.

1088
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.000
<v Speaker 2>And now it's weird because now it's just like, oh yeah,

1089
01:05:48.119 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 2>second nature, which I never thought in my entire life

1090
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:57.239
<v Speaker 2>I could say that never Now I was the one

1091
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 2>who wanted to run away and leave, and my husband said, no,

1092
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.920
<v Speaker 2>this is our forever home. We're going to deal with this.

1093
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 2>We're going to stay here and we're going to work

1094
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:08.840
<v Speaker 2>it out, and I'm glad that we did. I'm glad

1095
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:13.199
<v Speaker 2>we didn't do the flight like most people do. And

1096
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:16.320
<v Speaker 2>you've heard so many stories that people have just one

1097
01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:19.119
<v Speaker 2>encounter with Bigfoot and then they leave their homes forever.

1098
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:24.039
<v Speaker 2>And that's that, you know, And that's happened many a times,

1099
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 2>many of times, you know. And my husband was right,

1100
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.679
<v Speaker 2>you stay and you do the best you can. And

1101
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:33.599
<v Speaker 2>in the long run, when we look back at it,

1102
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:38.280
<v Speaker 2>they were never aggressive, maybe curious, but us not knowing,

1103
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.840
<v Speaker 2>We weren't sure, and we just feared what would come next.

1104
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:47.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've never done anything to harm us ever,

1105
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:50.159
<v Speaker 2>which in the beginning we didn't know that. We didn't

1106
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:52.719
<v Speaker 2>know their intentions. Like I said, it's been over two

1107
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:57.559
<v Speaker 2>years now, so we've learned through experience and time, and

1108
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it did take time to understand and it because it's

1109
01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.119
<v Speaker 2>not something you live with every day.

1110
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, it goes back to that story you

1111
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:13.079
<v Speaker 1>shared about your husband getting injured during the investigation. If

1112
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:16.800
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to do something, they could and I mean

1113
01:07:16.840 --> 01:07:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be able to do anything.

1114
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.480
<v Speaker 2>About it, no, because he was just one person by

1115
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:24.920
<v Speaker 2>himself in the middle of the Woods injured using a

1116
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.840
<v Speaker 2>big stick to get back because he could his knee

1117
01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 2>was not working very well. Yeah, he had a gun

1118
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:33.360
<v Speaker 2>with them, but okay, you hold it up a gun

1119
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:36.159
<v Speaker 2>and you still have your need to deal with you know,

1120
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna be in the best condition. I mean,

1121
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:43.159
<v Speaker 2>you make yourself a prime target. But they didn't harm

1122
01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:46.159
<v Speaker 2>him in any way. I honestly think they were escorting

1123
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:48.760
<v Speaker 2>him back to they knew he was a place of safety.

1124
01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 2>He got there, it stepped out mace haaw it's eyes,

1125
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.039
<v Speaker 2>and then walked back in and left. It's like, okay,

1126
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:57.679
<v Speaker 2>you're home. Good, I gotta go now I got to

1127
01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.400
<v Speaker 2>go back and mess with those other researchers. And it's

1128
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:04.280
<v Speaker 2>weird because after we have the research thing for a

1129
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:07.440
<v Speaker 2>couple of days, they're amped up. I mean they're they're

1130
01:08:07.679 --> 01:08:10.000
<v Speaker 2>major amped up, Like they like they want you to

1131
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:11.960
<v Speaker 2>come out and come back in. It's like, no, no, no,

1132
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:12.920
<v Speaker 2>we're done, We're good.

1133
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Huh.

1134
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:17.319
<v Speaker 2>You know it's I think they're they're I think they're

1135
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:21.439
<v Speaker 2>more curious than we are, honestly, I truly or maybe

1136
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:23.199
<v Speaker 2>as as curious.

1137
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Tell everybody where they can find your page. It's Biggie

1138
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:27.880
<v Speaker 1>foot on Facebook.

1139
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's Biggyfoot on Facebook, Lisa.

1140
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I have really enjoyed it. I didn't listen to any

1141
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:39.760
<v Speaker 1>of the other podcasts you had been on. I like

1142
01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to kind of go and blind to hearing a person's

1143
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:49.960
<v Speaker 1>story and everything. You've got a really interesting situation. I'm

1144
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:52.359
<v Speaker 1>so glad you reached out to me to share it,

1145
01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you chose to stick it out on

1146
01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:59.279
<v Speaker 1>your property. I think you made the right decision. And

1147
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:05.359
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I think you're You're in such an amazing situation,

1148
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:08.479
<v Speaker 1>and I think you're handling it in such a great.

1149
01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:11.399
<v Speaker 2>Way, you know, in a weird way. I think it's

1150
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:14.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of a blessing, if that makes any sense. It's

1151
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 2>just such an exceptional experience. I'm grateful to in the

1152
01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:24.800
<v Speaker 2>long run, habit. I really truly am my husband. I both.

1153
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, even if he says the same thing, we're

1154
01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 2>so used to them now, it would be heartbreaking if

1155
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:31.520
<v Speaker 2>they left.

1156
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:36.039
<v Speaker 1>It's such a unique thing, because you know, there's a

1157
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 1>very small list of people that have the ability to

1158
01:09:41.960 --> 01:09:44.560
<v Speaker 1>matter of factly say that they know these things exist.

1159
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Seeing one more than once is even smaller of a list,

1160
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:56.199
<v Speaker 1>and you're on a very elite list. Of someone that

1161
01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 1>gets to interact with them on a regular basis, they've

1162
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.720
<v Speaker 1>really gotten to the point where they trust you. I

1163
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:08.600
<v Speaker 1>think that is where more doors open than a lot

1164
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.079
<v Speaker 1>of other people can accomplish.

1165
01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I think the more respectful people are and the more

1166
01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 2>gentle people are, the more chance they have because I

1167
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:24.800
<v Speaker 2>think these creatures fear us as much as we fear them.

1168
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:28.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess that's why it's describe it. You know, they're

1169
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:31.680
<v Speaker 2>as they're cautious of us, as we are cautious of them,

1170
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:35.439
<v Speaker 2>and them seeing us probably frightens them as we see

1171
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:39.439
<v Speaker 2>them because we don't know what they're thinking they're feeling.

1172
01:10:39.479 --> 01:10:42.279
<v Speaker 2>But I believe they have some of the same emotions

1173
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:46.800
<v Speaker 2>that we do as well, oh for sure. But people think, well,

1174
01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:49.880
<v Speaker 2>they're creatures, so they can't have feelings. Yeah, I think

1175
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:54.239
<v Speaker 2>they have happiness, anger, sadness, fear, just like we humans do.

1176
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:59.359
<v Speaker 2>And I believe there they have a family unit. I

1177
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:01.840
<v Speaker 2>believe they're they have that, you know, that kind of

1178
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:03.920
<v Speaker 2>family like humans do as well.

1179
01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't know, obviously, but I I

1180
01:11:08.840 --> 01:11:11.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely think that that's what you're dealing with. I think

1181
01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with a family unit that knows that they're

1182
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:16.640
<v Speaker 1>safe there and they have everything they need, so there's

1183
01:11:16.680 --> 01:11:19.319
<v Speaker 1>no reason for them to leave. There's no reason for

1184
01:11:19.359 --> 01:11:23.720
<v Speaker 1>them to worry about you. They, like I said, they

1185
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 1>trust you at this point.

1186
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I think so, and we trust them.

1187
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll go ahead and end it there, but I

1188
01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:33.000
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it sincerely.

1189
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you for having me. Yeah, of course, I

1190
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:37.319
<v Speaker 2>hope it was useful.

1191
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I like I said, I pretty much focus on

1192
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:46.439
<v Speaker 1>the witnesses on this show in hopes of people being

1193
01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:49.760
<v Speaker 1>in the position that you used to be in listening

1194
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:53.880
<v Speaker 1>that might need help and learn something or That's all I.

1195
01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Care about is I want to help other people. I

1196
01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 2>figure I was put in this situation to learn it

1197
01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.319
<v Speaker 2>to try to help other people, and I'm still learning

1198
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 2>to I learned stuff from you today and I didn't

1199
01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:07.880
<v Speaker 2>know about the curve might be a female. I mean,

1200
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to learn everything I can about these beings

1201
01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:14.520
<v Speaker 2>because I want to show them respect. But at the

1202
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:17.840
<v Speaker 2>same time, I want to know everything I can, and

1203
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I want to share everything I can with everyone else

1204
01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:23.479
<v Speaker 2>so they don't have to go through what my husband

1205
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.159
<v Speaker 2>and I went through of not knowing. I want people

1206
01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 2>to be able to have that little extra, Hey, I

1207
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.159
<v Speaker 2>have the information. I can read all these things and

1208
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:34.640
<v Speaker 2>make my own decisions, but this is helpful in one

1209
01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:38.880
<v Speaker 2>way or another. I just feel it's important to help people.

1210
01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:43.159
<v Speaker 1>If you've had an encounter with Bigfoot or something else

1211
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you can't explain, you'd like to share your story on

1212
01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com.

1213
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com. You can find

1214
01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:56.920
<v Speaker 1>links to social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need

1215
01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 1>all in one place, And until next time, remember there's

1216
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:03.640
<v Speaker 1>something in the woods.
