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Speaker 1: Lisa wasn't a believer in bigfoot when her and her

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husband relocated to Arkansas, but when things started happening right

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in her own backyard, she started to change her mind. Now,

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Lisa is a Bigfoot witness who has had numerous sightings

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on her Ozark property and has developed an understanding and

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knowledge base of how they behave. But don't just take

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her word for it. Bigfoot researchers and outsiders have visited

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the property and not only found evidence, but have had

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their very own sasquatch sidings. Lisa shares her Bigfoot experiences

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on this episode of Bigfoot Crossroads. How did all of

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this start for you?

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Speaker 2: We had lived in California unwillingly for about probably thirty

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some years, and when my husband's job went remote, we

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decided we wanted to move somewhere else, anywhere else, of course,

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so we kind of just liked I guess because it

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took blind faith and just took a leap of faith

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and put our thing on the map and decided on

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Arkansas in the long run, and Arkansas went out, so

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we moved here in I think it was April of

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twenty two, and we live in the Ozark Mountains. In

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prim Arkansas, and it's all pastures and and forces in

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woods and stuff like that. It's very peaceful. Neighbors are

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you know, a distance away from each other. So we

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have like three acres and it's it's a little bit

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of family area than the rest is all woods. In

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the one section of the woods we call the haller.

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In the first couple of years, we used to bush

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hog it down and make it look really pretty. But

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then we had a lot of deer and everything come.

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So we just decided that we were gonna, you know,

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give it back to nature because we love the deer

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coming and all the other little creatures with it. And

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I think that helped start our issue with Bigfoot.

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Speaker 1: Whenever you let it grow back.

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Speaker 2: We let it grow back, and we were feeding. We

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feed the squirrels in the foot in the front, and

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the rabbits, and then we have we get tons and

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tons of deer in the holler. We don't fill the

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feeder all the time, but every once in a while

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we feel it, you know, fill it up for the deer.

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And we've we've so we've got we let the hall

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grow back where you can barely see anything in it.

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You've got the deer feeder. We occasionally feel feel, but

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we also we don't hunt. So the animals have gotten

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to the point where they know it's safe to come

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into our area and we don't bother them because we

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don't let other humans in it. The only time my

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husband goes in there is to fill the deer feeder,

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and that's basically it. So it is completely to them.

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Plus there's water sources all around. We have a great,

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big corridor that goes for miles. It's just you know,

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dense wood, so it's like, as they say, the perfect

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spot for these creatures. Plus we have berry patches, I

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mean tons of berry patches. We have apples, so they

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have their water source, they have fresh fruits, berries, deer,

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small game, and they're completely left alone. Well, we didn't

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know we were starting, you know, we were causing you know,

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I guess in it vertally, you know, bringing them in

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even more. We had no clue they Honestly, I didn't

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believe in Bigfoot at the time. I just thought, yeah,

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well whatever, you know. I never really took it seriously.

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And I remember it was in twenty four My husband

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and I were sitting in the back porch and this

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really awful, awful, foul smell came out and it was

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just overwhelming, and it's you know, we're like, what is

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that because we're used to the chicken manure stuff on

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the fields, right, and I think, you know what that

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smells like I do. But it was not like that. Yeah,

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it was different than that. It was skunky, musky, dead carcass.

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It was just overwhelming, and then we heard this scream

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like I've never heard in my life. It wasn't there.

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It wasn't elk, which we don't have here, it wasn't

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mountain lion, it wasn't any of this area, nothing, And

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it happened the one time, and it was close, but

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we're like, okay. We both looked at each other, it's like,

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what the heck was that, and we're like, nah, that

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really didn't happen. We're both imagining it. And we tried

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to just blow it off. And about six or seven

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minutes later, the smell came in again. It was so

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much stronger, and another scream, and now we're like, there's

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something out there. It's really close. We don't know what

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it is, and we were getting really uncomfortable, and you know,

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when the hair on the back of your neck stands

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up and all over your arms and stuff. Sure that

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was happening. That was happening to both of us, and

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we were both still in like this doesn't make sense.

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It wasn't commuting, It wasn't you know, We just it

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just wasn't computing in our brains, and we're like, okay,

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this is okay. And then remember the snow got so

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close that our eyes were watering, and another scream came off,

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and that screen was so close. It was maybe twenty

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thirty yards away at the most, maybe even closer, and

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we're like, okay, we're done, We're going inside. And I

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remember after that, because I wanted to know what it was.

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I started listening to every sound on the internet anywhere

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I could try to figure out what it was. Now

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we're not going to lie in the back of our

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minds like could that be like one of those bigfoot things,

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because none of the noises that we came up with

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were even close to it. And it was so loud,

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so enormous. I call it Godzilla the sound of Godzilla

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because it was just so strong and so loud, and

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the lung capacity alone was amazing. The only thing I

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found close to it was a silver back what they

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call it silver back ape or whatever, and when they're angry,

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it's got some kind of aggression scream. It was kind

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of like that, but amplified one hundred times more. But

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that's the closest thing I could find to it. So

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we just let it go, and you know, life went on,

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and we'd hear the noises from time to time and

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we were still unsure what it was, and I believe

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it wasn't till January because we weren't looking for fort

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prints or anything. You know, we were just trying to

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get on with life. My husband had to go in

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the haller to refill the feeder, and he always takes

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our lawnmower because it's, you know, it's easier to get to.

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But because we had eight inches of snow, he decided

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to walk. While he was walking out there, he found

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a footprint. And nobody walks out there, and who's going

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to walk out there barefoot? Makes no sense? And the

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print was was really cuge. So he took a picture

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of the print and then we're like, oh God, is

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this possibly a big foot? So I took the pictures.

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I asked some of our neighbors who are really good hunters.

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They had no clue. I ended up setting it to

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different people that were, you know, in the field that

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did analysis on footprints and stuff like that. I sent

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it to a couple of other people, and with the

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three people that I went to independently, they all came

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back with juvenile bigfoot. So we're like, okay, this is

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possibly a bigfoot. Then things started escalating. Things around our

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house got moved around, the screams got louder, more and

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more footprints were showing up, not only in the holler,

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but in the front of the house. At night. You

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could hear banging. I guess, I guess they call it

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like tree knocks. We'd hear banging on our wood fence

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on this one side. And it got to the point

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where it was just we feel like we're being bombarded

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by you know, this this creature. So I was reaching

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out for help because I was well, my husband was

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really uncomfortable, but I was scared to death. It's like,

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this thing, is it's going to come in our house?

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Is it going to break in? Is it going to

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hurt us? It's going to hurt our animals. I mean,

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we knew nothing about this creature. Absolutely nothing. So I

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kept reaching out over the internet to try to find help,

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and I wasn't really getting anywhere with it. No one

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had any real advice. No matter where when oh put

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trail cams up, I put trail cams up useless. They

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still came around. They just ignore the trail gams go

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right around it, right, you know. And so we finally

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had to just keep doing things. First we started with

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motion lights and we put it around our property, thinking, hey,

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that's going to solve the problem. And it was weird because,

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like I think a couple days later, by everemotion light

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we had where and there's like they're from on trees

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or next to trees. The branches were broken on the trees.

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Every single one had a big branch broken. It's like, okay,

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so this is my belief. They knew what those things were,

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and they said up they they were putting like some

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kind of perimeter. They knew they didn't cross. Just turn

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on those motion lights, because how did every single motion

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we put up, Oh my god, I think eight motion

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lights if not more, And why would something be broken

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by every single motion light? Just didn't make any sense,

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and the problems were still happening because the lights weren't

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going on, they would go around it. So eventually we

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put on big spot lights of floodlights all around our house.

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We had the electric company coming one of those big

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ones on the telephone poles.

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Speaker 1: Right, a Boer light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So what we do is we have them facing

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in towards our home and nothing's facing out like into

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the wood area. We leave that completely dark and we

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leave that to them. And it's taken i'd say maybe

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a year at that time for them to finally understand, Okay,

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this is your area, this is our area. You don't

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cross our area. We've got no problem. And up to now,

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which is over two years later, they don't cross those boundaries.

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Now they'll go in the front yard and walk across it,

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but you know, they don't come they'll come home maybe

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probably three feet to the house, but to the front porch.

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But they've never gone on our porch. You know. The

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only thing weird they did was we have garbage cans

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on our front to the side of our porch and

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they're in a little enclosure and we've been here four years.

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Never once have those things ever fallen out ever through

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any storm. And as you know, like where you live

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you get heavy winds during rains and downpours, never ever

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fallen out. My husband and I left one day and everything

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was intact, and we came home and on the side

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of our house by the porch, one of the garbage

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cans was out of the enclosure and the lid was

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put on, but it was put completely upside down in

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the middle of the driveway. Okay, now, okay, now, if

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that thing fell out, it would have fallen out, the

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lid would have fallen off, and it would have laid sideways.

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But this was completely intact, turned upside down and just

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put in the middle of the driveway. And we checked.

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There were no claw prints, no you know, marked from

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a bear or anything like that. It was just neatly

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put there. And then we started noticing thing after that.

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Things were moved around and it's like, okay, you know,

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they're playing games. When my husband would go to the workshop,

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sometimes they would do their whooping and their little you know,

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roar and wood knocks. But one thing we did do

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when we were trying to make safety for our houses.

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If if my husband would go to the workshop or anything,

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he would carry a gun. It wasn't to hurt anything.

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It was just in case for protection. And you know,

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even when he went to the haller. We still do

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that to this day, though things have changed immensely since

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the beginning. But I really think it's because of a

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learning process. I pretty much getting to know how these

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creatures act and in how we interact with them. I

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believe the first sighting I saw physically of them, Oh,

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I'd have to look on my diary, but I can't

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get it in front of me. I believe it was

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right before summer, right when it was warming up. I

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remember we had a new puppy and I was sitting

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in our living room, but we have those class doors

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to go outside, the sliding glass doors, and I remember

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looking out in something really dark caught my eye and

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it's like, well, what's that, And of course humans we're curious.

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I go to look at the window. There's one of

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them standing straight up right there in our holler, you know,

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mind his own business, his back towards me. I remember

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staring at it and complete disbelief, like I'm seeing what

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I'm seeing. I could see him from him or her, sorry,

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from the torso up and it was doing something in

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front of it, and then it took like two steps

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and it was gone. It was just gone. I mean

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those steps must have at that time been enormous. And

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that was the first time I saw. The second time

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was when our berries were in. We have a back

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porch which we sit on all the time daily. I

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mean we always do it. I do it during the

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day when my husband's working, and we go out every

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night with our dogs and they run around and it's

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our face family time. And it was another day I

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was out there on the porch by myself and I'm

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sitting there and I thought there was a rock in

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a really huge rock in our hallers, Like, how could

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there be this huge brown rock in our haller? It

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doesn't make any sense. It wasn't there before, and it's

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it's within all the foiliage, and it's like that is

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like really really strange. And next thing I know, this

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rock danns straight up walks away takes big, humongous steps.

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I'm screaming because I was completely caught off guard. It

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didn't care. It just like kept going on about its business.

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But those footsteps were so huge and the swing of

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its arms were really huge. I remember it was dark brown,

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slender but muscular. It wasn't big in fat or anything,

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you know, and had the dark fur. I could not

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see its space because of the back, but the gate

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of its walk was just I would have to take

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three or four steps just to make one of those

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steps easily, I mean easily.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a different one than the first one you saw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from what we've figured out over time. Of course,

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there are two juveniles, one gray one and I believe

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a female. I haven't seen her, but i've her. I'm

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guestimating it's a female, but it's weird because she's it

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her well, I'm going to say her. Her scream is

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different than theirs. And for some reason, you get this

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like maternal like hey you better get back here now

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kind of thing. You know. It just has the commanding

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presence of like a female, a mother. But I can't

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say for certain. I'm just going on my observations, you know.

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And as time gone on, we had I don't know,

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if you know, NA North American would a conservatory conservatory? Yeah, Well,

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they came out because I wanted to find anything out

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I could about this. I'm the kind of person I

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have to know everything about something. If it's affecting my family.

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So they came out. They did a really long investigation

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and they found their evidence, and they found trails, they

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found tracks, they found everything they needed to prove that, yeah,

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that you have an active Bigfoot location. It's like oh goodie,

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like yes, but we had. We had also found out

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because I had told a few neighbors and and people

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around us. At the same time we had found our

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first original footprints. A farmer behind us aways also found

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tracks and he took a picture and it was sent

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to us. And another neighbor had tracks and told us

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about it. So in time with the within the two

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years we have found it, they come from one area

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and completely go through I mean the whole our town

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of Prim. They cross right through our town of Prim

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into into Woodrow. We had one people that live maybe

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two miles away from us. They I think this is

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like nine months ago now. They had bought a house,

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moved in and their son was either in the backyard

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or looking out the window, and they have a creek

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and he noticed something dark leaning down in the creek

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and he didn't know what it was, and he said

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it stood up and walked away. He said it was

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described exactly what I did, dark brown, lender, furry, he goes.

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He knew it wasn't a bear, you know, and it

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just walked away like nothing, big steps, so we know

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it travels well, they travel that way. I think they

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stay here a lot because we you know, we leave

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it empty. We don't allow people who're not hunters. Everybody

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around us except for in this little area that they're

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going through, there's no hunting, which gives them, you know, first,

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they've got an easy access to hide well while walking.

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They have the food, they have the water that they

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have a place to sleep anywhere they need to. They

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have everything they need while they're traveling to wherever they're

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traveling to and from, if that makes any sense, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For sure. And they have people to watch they have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are yeah, yeah, oh yes, entertainment that is

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that is one hundred percent true. In the winter especially

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and in certain days during the week, my husband watched

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certain things and I come in the bedroom and I

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play on my computer, but I always have the TV

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on just because. And it took us a year to

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open up our curtains and stuff again to you know,

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we felt safe. So we keep our curtains open now

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and in the warmer months until we put the air

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conditioner in. We have our winges open, so I'll have

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the TV on and be doing stuff, and then when

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it's time for bed, I would turn off the TV

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and you know, turn off the lights, and we get

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these little pebbles. We would be thrown at the window,

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and it's like okay, and it's a big six foot

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fence in order to get it over there and hit

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our windows. Nothing hard enough to break it, but just enough,

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you know, to you can hear it hits the thing,

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and I went outside and see a little pile of rocks.

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So I believe, and they've done this many times now

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that they want the TV back on. I really truly

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believe it. I honestly truly do. And I've noticed there's definitely,

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like I said, at least four because sometimes I'll be

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sitting out back or even in the front and you'll

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hear they have a very straight whistle. It's like a

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solid off key whistle. It's hard to describe. And you

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hear it at one end of the property, and then

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you hear another one coming from the other end of

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the property, and they slowly get closer and closer together.

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So I think that's one form of their communication when

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they're trying to, you know, get back together with each

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other from probably going off on what they were doing before.

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So they'll keep whistling until their whistles get close enough

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and then it finally stops. But sometimes when I'm in

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the back sitting on the porch, they'll whistle at I

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believe me. And it took time. But sometimes when I

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whistle back at them, they'll return the whistle. But that's

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taken a long time to get to. But now, I

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mean I've seen them, oh my god, oh jeez, seven

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or eight times we've had had guests on our property

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that's seen I know they've seen the gray one for sure.

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We've had the investigators have some encounters with them as well.

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They found footprints, of course, made cast. My favorite thing

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was the knuckle print they found. I really thought that

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was really cool. So they took a picture and they

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casted that. The Norwalk guy found hair samples. Some came back.

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I think it was Mountain lion and bear, but one

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came back. They didn't know. They couldn't. They said they

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just didn't know. So we have no clue what that

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hair was. But you know, they've found so much evidence

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that they're here. The other day, we were supposed to

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have an investigation on Saturday and it got canceled at

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the last minute. And I had told my husband ahead

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of time, well, investigators, come, I want you to go

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see if the berries are in, because I said, I can.

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They're back. I know, I can. I can feel them.

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I can. I saw them. What was it last week?

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I saw the two of them. I said, I think

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the berries are in cound. You just check to see

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if the berries are in. Well, the investigators didn't come,

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but my husband had to go to the workshop, so

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he went back to right behind our our workshop area

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that starts the berries, and he walked up and said, yeah,

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the beerry's in. He goes, there's a great footprint right there.

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I was like, yep, I knew they were here. They

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loved the berries. They just I mean, they'll be here

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as long as those berries are here. They're they're going

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to be like crazy during the summer. They love the berries.

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And now we have the apple tree in full bloom

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that they're going to love that as well. I mean,

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they love the fruit as much as the other you know,

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animals and stuff they eat which I'm not. I know,

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they eat deer. We've had it. In one investigation. They

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found I don't know how to describe it. It was

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a tree and they had like a limb out of it,

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but bones were put on it, and we believe that

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we believe that was a territorial marker. I'm almost positive

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of it. I mean, why else would you put bones on?

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And we don't have neighbors around to play jokes everyone here,

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you know, they're really busy with their lives. Plus, how

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are they going to know to put that in the woods?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And for people to find that that's not going to happen.

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People around here don't play games, and people don't around here.

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People respect other people's property. Unless you have the permission

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to go in it, you never go in it. I mean,

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it's people are so respectful about other people's property alignes here.

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It's it just blows my mind. You know, it's not

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like people around here would play any kind of practical

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joke of any kind. It's just not the nature of

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anyone around here.

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Speaker 1: Well, i mean you've seen them, so you know it's

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they're there, and that kind of change his perspectives a

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bit or at least it did with me once I

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knew that they were there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to see it, you've got to feel it.

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You've got to experience in order for your brain to

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comprehend it. Didn't you feel about me?

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Speaker 1: Oh? For sure? It definitely made things, I want to say,

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easier to look for, but it's more like easier to notice.

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Speaker 2: It just helps your mind accept it as well.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know that these things for instant, the bones

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in the trees, you now know that, Okay, well this

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is a possibility now where before you would have just

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written it has to be a person or just some

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random weird occurrence, But now you know they're there, so

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now okay, well they could have done this, and then

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your brain starts working, right, why are they doing it?

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Why did they put that there? Do you notice any

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change in their behavior?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean from the very beginning, like I said,

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extremely were extremely fearful of them. We thought they were

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going to be aggressive, you know, and the streaming and

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it just it was overwhelming that as time got on.

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I'm honestly, I don't know if this is gonna make sense.

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I honestly feel like they're prospective of us because I

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think there's a mutual respect for each other, because hey,

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look we're going to give you this land. We're going

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to leave you alone. We're gonna let you do your thing.

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You just let us do ours. Will respect you, you

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respect us. And they have done that. I mean, it's

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funny because now all the I would say, other apex

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creatures like mountain lions, bears, even the coyote, will not

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come on our property anymore. They will go around our property,

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but they will not go on our property. I mean

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I can hear the coyotes nightly, but they don't dare

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come on our property. They don't, they won't. They just refuse.

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Deer will come on our property. I mean armadillo's you know,

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all the small creatures come on and they're happy. I mean,

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they're running around like crazy. They feel safe here. But

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the larger, more aggressive animals will not come anywhere near

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the property. And I honestly believe it has to do

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with them, I really truly do. And I think I

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feel I mean, I've gone from being fearful to feeling

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comfortable with them that if they ever just left, it

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would be emptiness. There would be an emptiness because we're

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so they're so part of our life now that it

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would be completely empty without them, if that makes any sense.

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Speaker 1: And they leave your animals alone.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let that's the perfect example. We have a puppy.

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He's a Saint Wiler. He's Saint Bernard and Rottwiler. He's

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a big boy. He's turning eighteen months now, and so

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he wants to be our alpha. And the our dogs

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go inside outside and sometimes they get scared of these creatures,

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it's true, and they'll come on the porch and they'll hide.

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Other times they'll bark, depends on their mood. But these,

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you know, the these I'm gonna call them creatures, have

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never ever done anything to our dogs. And if our

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dogs are scared, they come right in. But I guess

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it was I think it was two weeks ago. It

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was during the day and I was in the bedroom

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and our our puppy, we call him Squatch because he

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has really big pause. Not because of Bigfoot, but you

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know the big pause. That's so we called him Squatch,

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you know, which is kind of ironic because the bigfoots. Well. Anyways,

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he starts freaking out and I mean he doesn't freak out,

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and I come out of the bedroom. I go out

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to the porch and there's one of the bigfoot standing

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out on the other our fence, a little bit back,

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maybe three or four feet, And my stupid puppy thinks, well,

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I'm an alpha. I'm going to show you. And he's

472
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,599
going crazy on the fence, almost knocks over our fence

473
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,640
because it's not a real strong fence in that side.

474
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,319
It's just a barrier in case you had cows in

475
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:15,079
that area. And the bigfoot gets a little closer screams,

476
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,799
probably I think he's screaming at the dog, and the

477
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:21,039
dog's still going off. It doesn't stop, and then the

478
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:24,519
bigfoot just stops dares at him for a minute. I'm like,

479
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:26,920
oh god, what's he gonna do, you know, like, because

480
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,519
he's just staring at the dog as the dog's barking

481
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:32,640
and screaming, and then he just turns and walks away.

482
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,599
It's like, oh, you know, even though the dog was

483
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,119
being aggressive to him, he was not being aggressive to

484
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,559
the dog because I think he knew that the dog was,

485
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,720
you know, still a puppy and just trying to show

486
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,880
his little alpha for the other dogs. But I remember

487
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,400
he yelled at one of his big yells, and I'm

488
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,680
standing on the porch like I'm just like frozen solid

489
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,799
watching this because sometimes you just can't react because your

490
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,000
mind is just trying so hard to keep up what's

491
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:06,720
going on, because it's still so unreal, you know. And

492
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,559
it just screamed at the dog, cared at it for

493
00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:12,319
a while, and just walked away like it was nothing.

494
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:15,920
It's like, I'm out of here. And then the dog

495
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:18,640
finally had to go get him, get him off the fence,

496
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,599
and you know, he didn't do it. He hasn't done

497
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:25,200
that since. But it was like, but that the creature

498
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,640
could have easily easily done something to the dog. If

499
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,519
it was a nasty creature, it would have done something

500
00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:34,839
for sure. But all I do was yell at the

501
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:38,039
dog and leave, pretty much like saying, hey, dude, just

502
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,000
chill out now. This is cool. But I'll never forget

503
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,359
that because he's just he was just like, God, will

504
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,200
you shut up?

505
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: Do you have more experiences than your husband?

506
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,839
Speaker 2: Yes? They will not show themselves to my husband. They refuse.

507
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,799
Now my husban and carries a gun. I do not look.

508
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,759
I'm sixty three years old. I can barely walk, so

509
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:10,400
I'm very I guess for a creature, very meek. I'm

510
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,799
an easy target where my husband he's you know, he's younger,

511
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:16,720
and he's he's few years younger, he's stronger, he's in

512
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:20,319
really good health. He carries the gun. But they do

513
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,440
play with him, and they're very protective of him as well,

514
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,799
if that makes any sense. But it's funny because we've

515
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:29,759
had six other people come on our property and see

516
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,960
these creatures. The only thing my husband has seen is

517
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,559
part of the gray one flashing by when he looked

518
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:40,359
out the window, but he couldn't see the whole body.

519
00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:43,759
And that's all he's seen so far. But I swear

520
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,480
they are playing games with him because sometimes when we

521
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:51,119
go to the workshop, you can hear them in the

522
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:54,240
woods right next to us. They're literally planking us as

523
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:58,319
we go, you know, to the workshop and stuff like that. Now,

524
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680
like I said, i've seen him, my husband has it.

525
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,720
But when my husband on one of the last investigations,

526
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:08,640
they went deeper into the woods and my husband hurt

527
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,759
his knee really bad, so he was he couldn't the

528
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:16,319
next time they went out an investigation, he couldn't go

529
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,559
as far as everybody else because he was really, really hurt.

530
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,079
So he said, look, I can only go this far,

531
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,720
and they continued on somewhere else, so, which was stupid.

532
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,160
They left him by himself, but his knee got even worse.

533
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,599
So he started going home and he was wobbling and

534
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,200
he had to take a stick and everything to get home,

535
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,519
and one of them was following him. He said he

536
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,839
could he could hear it. He could hear all the

537
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,720
tree limbs breaking and all the stuff everywhere, all the

538
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,119
way to the house. And then when he got to

539
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,480
the house, I think he said it he couldn't because

540
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,799
it was getting it was dark, so all he could

541
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:02,680
see when he got to the house were in our street.

542
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Called shortly, he said, all he could see down the

543
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640
road were two eyes. He know, it's just two eyes.

544
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,559
He goes, and they saw us on the road, and

545
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:15,119
then he goes, it just went back in. Now he thinks,

546
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,240
he thinks, it's like, well, they were stalking him and

547
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:20,079
maybe they were going to hurt him. It's like, look,

548
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:23,079
and this is my opinion from dealing with this for

549
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,119
two years and seeing them and everything. If he was

550
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880
by himself in these woods and it was dark, even

551
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,359
if it was like if they wanted to do anything

552
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,440
to him, they would have. I honestly think from what

553
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,359
I've seen and how they've evolved and how we've evolved

554
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,240
with them over the time, that they were making sure

555
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:47,319
he got home to the house safely. That is truly

556
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:50,440
my opinion, because that preacher literally came out in the

557
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:54,400
road showed him well, I mean, he couldn't see the figure.

558
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,200
He could only see the eyes making sure that he's there,

559
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,720
and then he left and went away. Now that can

560
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:01,920
prove to you anytime he wanted to, he could have

561
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,720
jumped out and done anything he wanted, no problem. And

562
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,440
with my husband's condition at the time, how would he

563
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,760
be able to defend himself even though he had a gun,

564
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,599
could barely walk. And if there was because we know

565
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,199
there's more than one, if there were two following him,

566
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,320
one could have been from the behind, one could have

567
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,320
been from the front. You just never know. But there

568
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,039
was no aggression shown whatsoever. They were just following and watching,

569
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:32,400
and once he got home, they left. But like I said,

570
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,960
that's that's just my opinion. But I truly believe they

571
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,360
had no ill intent whatsoever, absolutely none.

572
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure they would have helped, but it

573
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,960
sounds more like an escort than a stalking situation exactly.

574
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I don't think they were gonna help, but like, yeah,

575
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,639
I truly believe it's an ex escort, just to make

576
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,760
sure he got back to an area, you know, which

577
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,239
was safe for him. I don't I don't know if

578
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,239
they would have helped, but I just figured it was

579
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,159
an escort. I really truly did. And they seem I

580
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,199
noticed they seem to be more vocal after a storm,

581
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:14,920
and they're they're around more after a storm, a lot more,

582
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:20,800
which I don't understand why, but they are. And they're

583
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,599
more quiet in the winter, but they're they're here more,

584
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,440
but more in the Holler area because in the winter,

585
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,920
my husband puts out tons of Christmas lights, I mean,

586
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,280
oh my god, so they avoid the fly I mean,

587
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,119
trust me, we're known all over for his Christmas lights,

588
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,960
so they don't go around the front. And they're they're

589
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,719
pretty quiet in the winter. But the only way you

590
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,920
know they're here in the winter is because the footprints

591
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,320
they're you know, they're in the snow or in the

592
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,199
mud or stuff. That's how you know they're here. But

593
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,840
for some reason, I don't know if it's because of

594
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:01,719
the cold, they're not as vocal. But spring, summer fall

595
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:06,039
there they could get really loud at times, but winter

596
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:11,079
you hardly hear them. You know they're there, but you

597
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:14,280
hardly hear them. They're just really quiet for some reason,

598
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,880
which I don't know. Like I said, I don't know

599
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,360
if it's because of the weather, I don't know. But

600
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,280
that's what I've noticed in the last couple of winters.

601
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. A lot of times in situations like this,

602
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,960
they'll be more active at a specific time of year,

603
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:42,320
but your situation really sounds like they're just there year round.

604
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah they are.

605
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,679
Speaker 1: You said no hunting on your area? Is there public

606
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,119
hunting around your area? Anywhere?

607
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: Private? But you know private land, so, but all the

608
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,960
other private land, they're big hunters, all of them except

609
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440
for across for us, and if you cross our yard

610
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,079
across the street, that's all pasture. So I don't believe

611
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:12,880
people hunt in the pasture. I've never seen it. Behind us.

612
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:16,719
It's an older woman, she doesn't hunt or anything, and

613
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,039
I don't know how much property she has. Then behind

614
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:22,079
that it's all you know, forest and woods. Then it

615
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:26,559
hits I guess the main highway eventually, and then after

616
00:37:26,599 --> 00:37:31,639
that it's all woods and another farm and then more woods,

617
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:35,159
so you've got you know, tons and tons of woods

618
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:39,559
which they can get around very easily that people don't

619
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:43,599
hunt in. Plus I hear there's caves and all kinds

620
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:48,440
of you know, areas I have I've never been back there,

621
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,559
but there's slopes and hills and I guess little mountains

622
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,719
and stuff like that, and I would you call it

623
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:03,360
ravines and things like that. There's one ravine supposedly I've

624
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,519
heard of further down that people can throw things in

625
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:11,880
and they just disappear and you never see them again,

626
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,159
which I don't know. I know it's down that way,

627
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:18,920
but I've never seen it, never been to it. So

628
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,119
there's I mean, there's plenty, plenty of places for them

629
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,599
to live. I mean they have, you know. I think

630
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:29,559
they showed themselves at times because they want to show themselves.

631
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,239
They want us to know they're here, and I don't.

632
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,960
I really don't think they fear me, because what am

633
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
I going to do. I'm a little old lady. I'm

634
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,760
not kid to do anything to them. I'm not, you know,

635
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,480
And I think they get that where my husband is more.

636
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,119
I know they like to play games. Of them because

637
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,400
during during the investigations, I guess, as some of the

638
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,760
investigators had said, because we only let one group of

639
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,239
investigators here, and I guess call it like pika glue,

640
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,239
where these these creatures will will follow them and they

641
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,920
can hear them and track them, and we've got some

642
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:10,239
they got some pictures of their eyes shine recently. I

643
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,599
think it was at the last investigation and when they

644
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,679
went and when they're done, they go back and they evaluate,

645
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:20,239
you know, what they find and the eye shine because

646
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,199
the eye shine was coming from down to the bottom

647
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,800
of the hill. When they re enacted it, they the

648
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,159
eye height was about it seven feet high and there's

649
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,719
no trees for it to grab on, no rocks for

650
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,199
to stand on. So it's not an owl. It's you know,

651
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,840
it's not it's not a it's not a bear now

652
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:47,679
it's and it's not the first time they've but this

653
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,599
is the first time they've actually got the picture of

654
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,840
the eye shine. And the whole time they were being

655
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,079
they knew they were being followed. And during the investigations

656
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,480
a lot they get followed and one of the investigators

657
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,800
I armber him saying that it was literally playing peekaboo

658
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,880
with him going behind the trees. This is when they

659
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,880
also learned that they do a spider crawl that they

660
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:11,800
get all the way down and they'll they'll use the

661
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,239
spider call to move around so that, you know, they

662
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,400
go from however tall they are, to really low on

663
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,800
the ground and travel that way. That's how they feel

664
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,960
that the knuckle print came to about that it must

665
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,920
have been you know, down in that spider crawl position

666
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,639
or at least sitting, and that's the way it got

667
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,199
up and it just dug its knuckles into the dirt

668
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:37,280
and into the mud. I mean, my favorite evidence besides

669
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:41,320
the hair. You know, footprints. We don't even take pictures

670
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,320
of them or cast them because anymore because they're all

671
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,800
the time, so that that sounds silly, But to us,

672
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,519
it's just no big deal anymore. It's like, yeah, you

673
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:53,760
want footprints, go out, you'll find some. It's just it

674
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,199
is what it is, you know, it just becomes the norm,

675
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,039
which is something I never thought i'd say in my

676
00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:00,840
entire life.

677
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens, you know, I know it, like

678
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,519
you're saying, I'm sure it sounds unbelievable to a lot

679
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:15,000
of people. But it's in my experience that there's just

680
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,800
some places out there, some situations out there where it

681
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,599
is that way, especially in this part of the country.

682
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I thought this was new, but we

683
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,800
found out through stories because when this first came out

684
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,480
that we had stuff here, of course we were rida

685
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,840
killed and made fun of, you know, we're crazy whatever,

686
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,320
blah blah blah. But then people that lived in prim

687
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880
for a long time, that you know, people knew, came

688
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,079
out and said, well, you know what, let me tell

689
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:49,920
you my story. And and also then people are started

690
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,400
backing off because here's people they knew who lived here

691
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,440
all their life that are finally starting to speak up.

692
00:41:56,119 --> 00:41:58,840
And we heard a story about the property behind us

693
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:02,159
that thirty years ago they were hearing the screams and

694
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:06,840
stuff like that. So I don't think that this honestly

695
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,159
just happened two years ago. I think it's after we

696
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,559
let it, things starting to grow, the yard and stuff

697
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:17,119
like that that we honestly started to notice. And the screen,

698
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,719
I think they just started getting more vocal then, kind

699
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,519
of like announcing that they're there. Yeah, in the beginning

700
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,840
that hey, this is our territory. You know, you keep

701
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,000
your distance kind of thing. I think, honestly that because

702
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,119
the screaming still comes down then. But I think it's

703
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:38,840
between them now, you know, especially because they scream a

704
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,840
lot at night, off and on, because but I think

705
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,199
they're you know, like calling to each other, if that

706
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,960
makes any sense. Now, it's not like they're just screaming

707
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:49,840
for no reason.

708
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,559
Speaker 1: Right. Do they act differently whenever you have the researchers

709
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:55,000
out there.

710
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playful. You know that sounds stupid. They're very

711
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,400
curious and they'll come in because they want to know

712
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,360
what's going on. Now, we've had several researchers, these reach

713
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:11,800
researchers have some kind of encounter or experience with them,

714
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,519
which is like, well, that's what you came for. So

715
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,079
I'm glad. Now we've had uh, let's see, Larry and

716
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,880
Liz saw the gray one full body gray one, so

717
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,360
they saw that one completely. We've had I think four

718
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,960
or five of them when they were in the field

719
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,960
have had some kind of encounter with them. So yeah,

720
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:41,400
I think they're very curious, very curious.

721
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,639
Speaker 1: I want to ask some questions about the gray one. Now,

722
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:48,880
your thoughts are that this is a juvenile How big

723
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,639
is the gray one.

724
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: No, the gray one I think is an elderly one.

725
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,559
He's eight. He's at least eight. The darker brown ones,

726
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:00,760
the slenderer ones, those are the juveniles, I'm I'm sure

727
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,920
of it. And the gray one he's about eight foot tall.

728
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,639
The other one's about seven foot but he's about eight

729
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:13,519
foot tall and he's wider. I just get the feeling

730
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:18,079
he's older, and I don't see him that often. I

731
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:21,480
mean that one time he literally was coming straight towards

732
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,920
the house and we just sat there watching him come

733
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,000
towards us, and I remember Larry called on the walkie

734
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:29,840
talkie to the guys because they were in the This

735
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,360
is during the investigation. So they came running and when

736
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,760
they came running, we turned our had to look at them,

737
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,159
and then the creature was gone. It just it was gone.

738
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,559
But we all three saw it at the exact same time,

739
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,800
you know, and it's like, okay, why is it gray?

740
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,159
I mean, I don't know if they age and turn

741
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,199
gray or it's just gray, but I don't know. I

742
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,360
just get the feeling gets older. Now. Footprints. I think

743
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,000
the biggest footprint my husband found, well, they I think

744
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:05,440
them and my husband found it was twenty or twenty

745
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,840
two inches long, and the small and then then they're

746
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,960
smaller ones. So I think the small smaller ones are juvenile.

747
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,719
I know the one is definitely the gray one. But

748
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,920
then there's one in between that, which I think could

749
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,760
be the one that I'm not sure if I've seen

750
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,039
it or not, but I think maybe a female.

751
00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: And is that track curved?

752
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember. I couldn't tell.

753
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: You pay attention to the track. If if you draw

754
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:43,480
a line from the little toe to the hill, does

755
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:47,719
it go through to the middle of the hill.

756
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't remember. I know one, the

757
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:56,559
very first one we took was definitely curved. It was

758
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,960
major curved, like maybe that something happened to its foot.

759
00:46:01,159 --> 00:46:04,920
The other ones, I don't know. I never really paid attention.

760
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,519
Is a big footprint, I mean I have I think

761
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,800
we have some pictures up on the Biggie foot page.

762
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:14,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have to go look. And I mean, this

763
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:19,159
isn't like a rule. People who have been doing this

764
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,920
much longer than I have that I learned a tremendous

765
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:29,400
amount from had the belief that some of the females

766
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:34,679
have more of a curved track than the straight track

767
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,920
that you see so often you see less of those tracks.

768
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:42,159
And they had their reasons for all of this, which

769
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:46,360
I won't get into, but I'm sure that there is.

770
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,320
If you've got juveniles and you've got you know, males

771
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,159
running around, that there's at least one female somewhere. I

772
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:55,960
promise you know.

773
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,559
Speaker 2: The first track that he found it had I know

774
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:02,079
that on the big foot page because it's in snow,

775
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,440
but you could tell there was a there was a

776
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,800
big curve to it where to the point where we

777
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,360
thought that maybe you know, it had it had hurt

778
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,800
something in its foot because it was a huge curve.

779
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,679
But I mean the other footprints I'd have to ask

780
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,039
my husband because I just really never paid attention. I mean,

781
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,199
I could send you some pictures, that's no problem, but

782
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:26,079
I can't. I couldn't tell you because I really didn't

783
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:28,519
pay attention for a curve or not. I just saw

784
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:29,480
a big footprint.

785
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,559
Speaker 1: What about head shape? Are they conical shaped or around it.

786
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: Thin? Like you know that little slope on top because

787
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:41,360
I forgot what it's called not I wouldn't call it

788
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,400
a conehead, but it goes up. There's a certain word

789
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,199
for it. But I can't think of it like a crust. Yeah,

790
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,559
I guess you would say. Yeah, the ones like the

791
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,599
two juveniles, they're more slender. They're about seven foot tall.

792
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:02,239
The brown hair, the brown thick hair. But yeah, their

793
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,159
head goes up to a point, and their faces from

794
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:10,480
what I can tell, you know, incest or what do

795
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:12,679
you call it, kind of smushed in.

796
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,159
Speaker 1: Have you gotten a good look at the face?

797
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:19,679
Speaker 2: Not really, not from the distance. I mean you can

798
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,880
get the body and get the arms, but the face

799
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,440
is still a bit blurry, if that makes if I've described,

800
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,360
it's just hard. It's just really hard to get the features.

801
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,519
You know, I can tell it's in set, but I

802
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:36,400
can't get the whole thing even when it's it's looking there.

803
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:40,119
I don't know if it's because my brain's not processes

804
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,039
processing it, or it's the distance, because I think the

805
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:48,719
furthest the way I've seen him is maybe thirty yards.

806
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:53,719
That would be the farthest because they come in. They

807
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,079
come in. The first footprints that my husband found were

808
00:48:57,159 --> 00:48:59,880
right at our fence to our backyard, next to which

809
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,320
so it's like they were standing next to the tree

810
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,239
and watching. Which at first, when you know, when this

811
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,880
first happened. That really scared the heck out of me,

812
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:12,519
because it's like, what are they going to do? Because

813
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:15,840
we only have like a little cow fence in between

814
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,000
the yard where we have our dogs and our family space,

815
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,920
and you could not my dog to knock it over

816
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,920
here really wants too. And so we get these flipprints,

817
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,440
and so this thing has been i mean literally watching

818
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,480
our house from a backyard, which from there is maybe

819
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:36,760
twenty yards from our porch. I'm sorry, that's scared the

820
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,880
living life out of me. You know, it made me

821
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,559
fear for my safe I honestly felt like other people,

822
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,440
I want to leave. I want to I want to go.

823
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:47,119
I don't want to be here anymore. I don't feel safe.

824
00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:51,239
I mean when we first this first happened, we we

825
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,000
shut the windows, we shut the curtains, we locked in

826
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:57,800
the blinds, doors were always locked. I mean, we literally

827
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:00,960
were a prisoner in our owner, in our own house

828
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:04,519
because we well, I particularly was scared to death because

829
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,519
we didn't know how to protect ourselves against these creatures.

830
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,119
We couldn't find any real help out there. I mean

831
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:13,840
when I went everywhere looking for help, and it took

832
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,280
us over you know, time to figure out how to

833
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,840
do it. That's another reason I did that that the

834
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,760
Biggie sorry, the Biggie Foot Facebook page, because I had

835
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,519
a lot of questions and I needed them answers. So

836
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:31,039
over the two years, I've been gathering information and plus

837
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:34,840
learning from the experiences of what we live and taking

838
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,280
that with some scientific things found, and you know, and

839
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,199
plus I read all the eyewitness reports, and you know,

840
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,840
I've done a lot of research in the last two

841
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,639
years because this is survival for us, where other people

842
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,440
it's a hobby. We have to live this every day.

843
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,280
So I put the biggy Foot page up where questions

844
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,760
of people as I'd given the best or I could

845
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,760
give them by research, experience, et cetera. This way, you know,

846
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,639
they have a question, they can at least look it

847
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,159
up and get an idea that they might now I

848
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:12,159
want to believe it. That's fine, but at least they

849
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:15,559
have something to start off with and information that is

850
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,400
useful and helpful. And that's the reason I started that

851
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,440
page because so many people had questions that they had

852
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,800
no answers to that they couldn't find. So I try

853
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,920
to answer any question that comes that is given to

854
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,159
me or comes my way, you know, to give them

855
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,559
on the most intelligent and most research answer I can.

856
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,960
And like protection, you know, anything I can any question

857
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:43,000
that comes about, I'm going to find a way to

858
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,639
answer it. If I have to research it for weeks,

859
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:48,239
I'll do it till I find, you know an answer

860
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,760
that makes sense and is you know, a credible, intelligent answer,

861
00:51:53,159 --> 00:51:55,079
And I'm not going to be biased about it. I'm

862
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:57,920
going to give the correct answer even if you know,

863
00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:01,960
like I believe in Bigfoot, but some questions you have,

864
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,760
the way they're answered, it doesn't prove or deny it,

865
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,000
if that makes any sense. But I'm going to give

866
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:12,480
the honest, one hundred percent answer, you know. And that's

867
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:14,559
why I put up that site, because I don't want

868
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:17,440
people to go through what my husband and I went

869
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,239
through in the beginning, not knowing and being scared. And

870
00:52:20,599 --> 00:52:24,000
how do I keep a house protected? What do I do? Now?

871
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:26,480
I have the perfect answer for that because we lived it,

872
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,440
we know it. How I know how to protect my family.

873
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,639
I know how to protect my house. I know how

874
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:35,280
to protect my pets, but we had to learn it ourselves.

875
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:37,599
But now if they have that question, all they got

876
00:52:37,599 --> 00:52:39,320
to do is look on here. This is what you

877
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,800
can do. This is how you keep your house tafe,

878
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,320
This is how you keep your family safe. This is

879
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,719
what they do. I mean any question. Like I said,

880
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,800
I will try to answer any question, because I think

881
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,039
the more information we get out there to help the

882
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:56,599
people in I call it our community, the better it is.

883
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,599
Now if they want to choose to believe it totally

884
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:05,239
up to the I do not not. You know, I

885
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,840
do not. What would you say? I don't care. If

886
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,840
a person doesn't believe in Bigfoot, that is their belief.

887
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,159
That is their right, and I will not say anything

888
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:17,360
against them. They have a right to have their belief.

889
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,519
And if people believe in Bigfoot, you know, I get it,

890
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,840
I understand it. I'm there with you. But I'm not

891
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,079
gonna dog anybody else who doesn't believe in it. That

892
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,039
is their choice, that is their right, And I can understand.

893
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,320
If you don't see it, and you haven't heard it,

894
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:36,159
and you haven't dealt with it, it's easy not to believe.

895
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,400
I get that, and I'm just not gonna you know,

896
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:44,159
I'm not gonna bully or bully anyone because of that.

897
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:50,119
Speaker 1: After dealing with it for so long, Now, where are

898
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:52,960
you at with it. What are you wanting to do

899
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,239
moving forward?

900
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: Protect them is my most important thing now the research.

901
00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:03,199
I think we're going to take a hold to that

902
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,280
for a while. We might do We have until August

903
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:10,679
probably fifteenth, if we want to do an investigation, and

904
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,480
that's it, and then that it won't be till spring.

905
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,639
And the only reason that we do investigations is to

906
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,360
gather evidence to just support the fact that the creature exists.

907
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:24,719
We don't go after the creature. We don't try to

908
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,400
harm the creature. I mean, we've got hair samples, we've

909
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,360
got knuckle prints, we've got footprints, we've got the trails,

910
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,079
we've got the tracks, we've got other people's visuals and

911
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,480
encounters with them. So we have all that stuff and

912
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:42,000
that's what we do the investigations for to get the

913
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:46,320
evidence to show that there is the existence of these creatures.

914
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,360
But we in no way are going to harm these creatures.

915
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:54,360
So ours is just to continue to coexist. I don't

916
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:58,760
like I said, we may have one investigation, but I've

917
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,920
also decided that if we're going to have another investigation,

918
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:06,880
that I'm going to try a different a different, a

919
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:12,559
new team, someone fresh and professional to give them a chance,

920
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,320
just you know, one time to come in. You know,

921
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,960
we'll at my husband escort and stuff and let them.

922
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:24,119
But we want professionals like biologists, wildlife escorts, someone has

923
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:27,920
some kind of background that would you know that is

924
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,079
good at gathering evidence because the more evidence they get

925
00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:33,639
we get, the more we learn from it and the

926
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:37,360
more we can approve the existence. That's my thing. But

927
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:40,800
at the same time, nobody comes on the property unless

928
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,599
they're invited on the property. It's not like we've made it. Hey,

929
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:46,400
you can come on look for bigfoot. That doesn't happen here.

930
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,119
That's a that's a big no no.

931
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:58,119
Speaker 1: Have you personally experienced anything that would be considered paranormal.

932
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's hard to explain. I feel, after all

933
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,679
this time, very attached to them, and I know when

934
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:17,199
they're around, I just I know there's some extra sense

935
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:23,280
and I can It's hard to explain it is I mean.

936
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:29,079
And also I used to a long time ago, for

937
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:35,320
thirty some years, I worked in the paranormal filled with

938
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,360
ghosts because I can see and hear ghosts, which I

939
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,880
still can to this day. So maybe that is part

940
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,119
of the connection I have to them. I'm not sure,

941
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,559
because to me, it's a totally different thing. I think

942
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:55,599
of them as an animal. I don't think. I don't

943
00:56:55,639 --> 00:56:58,679
think of them as the paranormal. But at the same time,

944
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:04,039
I have this extra connection which I can't explain.

945
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people. First off, whenever you have

946
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:14,480
people like yourself who own property where they coexist with

947
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:17,039
these things on a regular basis, you hear it there.

948
00:57:17,719 --> 00:57:24,000
You hear it from certain researchers that have spent decades

949
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,599
doing this and actually go out into areas where they're at.

950
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,119
They'll know when they're around. You can feel it. Yeah,

951
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:36,440
you can feel when they're around. You can feel when.

952
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,599
Speaker 2: They leave, exactly.

953
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:42,679
Speaker 1: The only thing I have to compare it to is

954
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:46,760
how it feels whenever you're living in your home with

955
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,840
someone and they're at home with you, and then it

956
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,599
kind of feels different. When they're not there and you're

957
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:55,079
by yourself, it's empty.

958
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels empty, But when they're there, it feels full. Yeah,

959
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:02,519
because I do feel that. It just you can tell

960
00:58:02,519 --> 00:58:05,159
when they're there, and I can also tell when they're

961
00:58:05,199 --> 00:58:11,559
mad and when they're when they're calm, because I can

962
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:14,639
tell sometimes they're really mad. I mean, I don't think

963
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:18,000
at us, but they're mad about something or angry. And

964
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,159
I can also tell when they're they're very calm and peaceful,

965
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,719
which is most of the time they're very very calm

966
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,039
and peaceful, but there's sometimes maybe they agitate each other,

967
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:32,800
but you can just feel they're not happy. They just

968
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,440
got that like, Okay, I'm not gonna even bother with

969
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,840
them today. I'm just gonna, you know, my my own business.

970
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:45,159
And you can also tell when they're watching. You can

971
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,519
always tell when they're well. I can always feel when

972
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:50,559
they're watching, and even my husband has at times said

973
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,440
he can feel them watching as well. You just even

974
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,599
though you can't see them, well, there's really tell tale

975
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:03,480
signs when they're here and they're really close. It goes

976
00:59:03,519 --> 00:59:07,320
dead silent. No crickets, no birds, no nothing. It is

977
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,239
completely dead silent. It is so creaky. I mean, there's

978
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,840
not a noise out there. The only noise is myself

979
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,440
and my husband or are dogs. And even the dogs

980
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,199
will come up in the porch and just you know,

981
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,239
stay there and not go in the yard. But it

982
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,760
is you hear nothing, absolutely nothing, and that's that's a

983
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,519
Teltowel sign they're there. I mean, that's obvious. I always

984
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:34,960
tell people if you're somewhere in the woods and it

985
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,400
gets dead silent, and that's an apex predator and it

986
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,599
could be a big food as well. Now we don't.

987
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,800
We've had you know, reports of you know what they found,

988
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,760
Like I said, it's on some mountain lyon hair on

989
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,159
our property. They found some bear. But we haven't had

990
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:55,039
a bear here in like forever now, I mean, I

991
00:59:55,079 --> 00:59:57,159
can't remember the last time there was a bear, a

992
00:59:57,199 --> 01:00:00,880
mountain lion. I it's been a long time as well.

993
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,840
Like I said, now, the coyotes literally go around our property.

994
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,880
They won't even go on our property. And trust me,

995
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,320
we've got six dogs on our property. Big the coyote,

996
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,159
especially during mating season, is going to want to come

997
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:18,199
near a property that has six five female dogs. Yeah,

998
01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:24,079
for sure, they don't dare. They will not come anywhere near.

999
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:28,039
And it's weird because we have in the area that

1000
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:31,320
we can hear them that's more of an open field area,

1001
01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:34,239
but they won't come in our wooded area. They just

1002
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,719
completely avoid it, which to me is like weird.

1003
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Have you seen any orbs.

1004
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: When the gray the gray one appeared, I guess they

1005
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:55,119
took some video or pictures. I can't remember what Matt said.

1006
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,920
And in the picture you couldn't see the creature. All

1007
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,559
they saw was an ORB in the exact spot. No,

1008
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:04,519
I haven't seen the picture. He told me about it.

1009
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,519
He was supposed to send it to you, but he

1010
01:01:06,559 --> 01:01:09,840
never did. He said, he said when they developed the

1011
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,440
picture or a video, I'd have to ask him that

1012
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:15,480
there was just an orb and that was above the

1013
01:01:15,519 --> 01:01:20,920
gray one. Other than that, I've never seen an orb

1014
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,840
other than that, and I didn't mean to see that one.

1015
01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:29,039
We the three of us, we saw a gray creature

1016
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,239
Clare's day. It was there, It was in front of us.

1017
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,079
It wasn't that far away. And when the video showed

1018
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:40,679
up or picture, there was just an orb, and it

1019
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,159
was weird when they did want investigation, which I think

1020
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:48,599
this has nothing to do with that. But fairy rings

1021
01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:52,239
were there on the property. We had a really big

1022
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,960
one back by the workshop and a small one where

1023
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,000
that creature was. But I don't get into the face

1024
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,360
fairy ring stuff, but those were there. I even have

1025
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,119
a picture of the really big one. But you know,

1026
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:12,199
our investigator try to tell us some story about fairy rings,

1027
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,280
but I'm not really into that stuff. But that's just me.

1028
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: Have groups reached out to you wanting to come and investigate.

1029
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,679
Speaker 2: Yes, others have, but we had only allowed Matt. But

1030
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,119
like I said, we have one. We have a very

1031
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:31,039
short window in August, and I'd like to try someone

1032
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,800
other than people that do podcasts, you know what I mean,

1033
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,199
like a real group come out though that and them

1034
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:44,199
have found some wonderful evidence, wonderful evidence. I mean, they're

1035
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,519
really good at finding evidence. So I give them that.

1036
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,920
But I'd like, you know, to have me like something

1037
01:02:50,119 --> 01:02:51,400
with more of a background.

1038
01:02:52,039 --> 01:02:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, which would.

1039
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: Be nice because I really want to start cutting out

1040
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,639
these these you know well that has been His group

1041
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:03,440
have been very respectful. They only we only do it

1042
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,920
like a couple of times a year because we don't,

1043
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,039
you know, we don't want to invade the space. And

1044
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:12,039
when they are here, they're very respectful. My husband goes

1045
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:15,960
out with them. You know, everything is done very you know,

1046
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:19,519
like I said, respectful. They don't you know, go out

1047
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:22,800
there and try to cause issues. They're just very quiet.

1048
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,039
They go look, they track, they're just trying to find evidence.

1049
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,920
They don't move anything around. They leave it as is,

1050
01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:32,559
which is what we want you just leave it the

1051
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:36,760
way you find it. That they have found some wonderful stuff.

1052
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,800
So if you want to see the orb or have

1053
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,360
any questions like that, Matt could give you all the

1054
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,960
answers because he has all the Like I said, I

1055
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,760
think it's a video, I'm not positive, but Matt could

1056
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:47,119
tell you.

1057
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be really interested in seeing that. That's a

1058
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,960
first for me. I've never heard that scenario before.

1059
01:03:54,639 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just ask Matt. I'm sure he'd be great. You know,

1060
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:00,800
he's he loves to help the community as well, and

1061
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,960
he loves to share what he has. Oh, I'm sure

1062
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,360
he wouldn't.

1063
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: The Heartbeat and the North American wood Ape Conservatives, those

1064
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,599
guys are about as credential as you can get whenever

1065
01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:15,119
it comes to like scientific research and everything.

1066
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, they after their investigation, they put their they put

1067
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,519
they put our our our town well prim Arkansas on

1068
01:04:26,599 --> 01:04:32,360
their national database as active. And plus the gentleman that

1069
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,920
came out, his name was Caleb. They said, he said

1070
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,480
there's a test that they want to do, but right

1071
01:04:37,519 --> 01:04:41,000
now it's so extremely expensive they can't do it. But

1072
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:47,400
you take a sample, and the sample, whatever the test

1073
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,360
does can tell everything that's ever walked on your property,

1074
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:55,119
been on the property environmental. Yeah, but I guess he

1075
01:04:55,159 --> 01:04:58,760
said it's so extremely expensive. They can't they can't afford

1076
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,000
that right now, but once they can, they want to

1077
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:03,519
take a sample of the property, which they are more

1078
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:07,119
than welcome to anytime. They were very respectful when they

1079
01:05:07,159 --> 01:05:09,679
came here, you know, and he took time. He took

1080
01:05:09,719 --> 01:05:11,679
a lot of time. It wasn't just he came an

1081
01:05:11,719 --> 01:05:14,280
e leuct He came, and he came back and he

1082
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,440
did a long interview with us. I mean, very credible,

1083
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:24,159
very respectful. You know. I really appreciated them coming out

1084
01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:27,960
because I wanted answers. Answers are really important to me.

1085
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,320
If you don't have the answers, you don't know how

1086
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:37,679
to handle a situation. And this was completely unexpected, you know,

1087
01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:44,480
unbelievable thing to try to, you know, maneuver. It really was.

1088
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:48,000
And now it's weird because now it's just like, oh yeah,

1089
01:05:48,119 --> 01:05:52,599
second nature, which I never thought in my entire life

1090
01:05:52,639 --> 01:05:57,239
I could say that never Now I was the one

1091
01:05:57,239 --> 01:05:59,840
who wanted to run away and leave, and my husband said, no,

1092
01:06:00,039 --> 01:06:02,920
this is our forever home. We're going to deal with this.

1093
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:04,920
We're going to stay here and we're going to work

1094
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,840
it out, and I'm glad that we did. I'm glad

1095
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,199
we didn't do the flight like most people do. And

1096
01:06:13,239 --> 01:06:16,320
you've heard so many stories that people have just one

1097
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,119
encounter with Bigfoot and then they leave their homes forever.

1098
01:06:20,599 --> 01:06:24,039
And that's that, you know, And that's happened many a times,

1099
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,639
many of times, you know. And my husband was right,

1100
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,679
you stay and you do the best you can. And

1101
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,599
in the long run, when we look back at it,

1102
01:06:33,639 --> 01:06:38,280
they were never aggressive, maybe curious, but us not knowing,

1103
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,840
We weren't sure, and we just feared what would come next.

1104
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:47,199
I mean, they've never done anything to harm us ever,

1105
01:06:47,679 --> 01:06:50,159
which in the beginning we didn't know that. We didn't

1106
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:52,719
know their intentions. Like I said, it's been over two

1107
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,559
years now, so we've learned through experience and time, and

1108
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,480
it did take time to understand and it because it's

1109
01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:04,119
not something you live with every day.

1110
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it goes back to that story you

1111
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:13,079
shared about your husband getting injured during the investigation. If

1112
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:16,800
they wanted to do something, they could and I mean

1113
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,480
you wouldn't be able to do anything.

1114
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: About it, no, because he was just one person by

1115
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:24,920
himself in the middle of the Woods injured using a

1116
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,840
big stick to get back because he could his knee

1117
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,679
was not working very well. Yeah, he had a gun

1118
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:33,360
with them, but okay, you hold it up a gun

1119
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,159
and you still have your need to deal with you know,

1120
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,480
you're not gonna be in the best condition. I mean,

1121
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:43,159
you make yourself a prime target. But they didn't harm

1122
01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:46,159
him in any way. I honestly think they were escorting

1123
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:48,760
him back to they knew he was a place of safety.

1124
01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:52,400
He got there, it stepped out mace haaw it's eyes,

1125
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,039
and then walked back in and left. It's like, okay,

1126
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:57,679
you're home. Good, I gotta go now I got to

1127
01:07:57,719 --> 01:08:00,400
go back and mess with those other researchers. And it's

1128
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,280
weird because after we have the research thing for a

1129
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,440
couple of days, they're amped up. I mean they're they're

1130
01:08:07,679 --> 01:08:10,000
major amped up, Like they like they want you to

1131
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,960
come out and come back in. It's like, no, no, no,

1132
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,920
we're done, We're good.

1133
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: Huh.

1134
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,319
Speaker 2: You know it's I think they're they're I think they're

1135
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:21,439
more curious than we are, honestly, I truly or maybe

1136
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,199
as as curious.

1137
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,399
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find your page. It's Biggie

1138
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:27,880
foot on Facebook.

1139
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Biggyfoot on Facebook, Lisa.

1140
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:37,520
Speaker 1: I have really enjoyed it. I didn't listen to any

1141
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,760
of the other podcasts you had been on. I like

1142
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,560
to kind of go and blind to hearing a person's

1143
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:49,960
story and everything. You've got a really interesting situation. I'm

1144
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,359
so glad you reached out to me to share it,

1145
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,000
and I'm glad you chose to stick it out on

1146
01:08:56,039 --> 01:08:59,279
your property. I think you made the right decision. And

1147
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:05,359
uh yeah, I think you're You're in such an amazing situation,

1148
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:08,479
and I think you're handling it in such a great.

1149
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:11,399
Speaker 2: Way, you know, in a weird way. I think it's

1150
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,640
kind of a blessing, if that makes any sense. It's

1151
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:20,359
just such an exceptional experience. I'm grateful to in the

1152
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:24,800
long run, habit. I really truly am my husband. I both.

1153
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,439
I mean, even if he says the same thing, we're

1154
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,000
so used to them now, it would be heartbreaking if

1155
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:31,520
they left.

1156
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,039
Speaker 1: It's such a unique thing, because you know, there's a

1157
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:41,560
very small list of people that have the ability to

1158
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,560
matter of factly say that they know these things exist.

1159
01:09:47,159 --> 01:09:50,920
Seeing one more than once is even smaller of a list,

1160
01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:56,199
and you're on a very elite list. Of someone that

1161
01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:59,680
gets to interact with them on a regular basis, they've

1162
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,720
really gotten to the point where they trust you. I

1163
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,600
think that is where more doors open than a lot

1164
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,079
of other people can accomplish.

1165
01:10:12,199 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 2: I think the more respectful people are and the more

1166
01:10:17,239 --> 01:10:20,840
gentle people are, the more chance they have because I

1167
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,800
think these creatures fear us as much as we fear them.

1168
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,720
I guess that's why it's describe it. You know, they're

1169
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,680
as they're cautious of us, as we are cautious of them,

1170
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,439
and them seeing us probably frightens them as we see

1171
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,439
them because we don't know what they're thinking they're feeling.

1172
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,279
But I believe they have some of the same emotions

1173
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that we do as well, oh for sure. But people think, well,

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they're creatures, so they can't have feelings. Yeah, I think

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they have happiness, anger, sadness, fear, just like we humans do.

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And I believe there they have a family unit. I

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believe they're they have that, you know, that kind of

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family like humans do as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know, obviously, but I I

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definitely think that that's what you're dealing with. I think

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you're dealing with a family unit that knows that they're

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safe there and they have everything they need, so there's

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no reason for them to leave. There's no reason for

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them to worry about you. They, like I said, they

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trust you at this point.

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Speaker 2: I think so, and we trust them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll go ahead and end it there, but I

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appreciate it sincerely.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you for having me. Yeah, of course, I

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hope it was useful.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I like I said, I pretty much focus on

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the witnesses on this show in hopes of people being

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in the position that you used to be in listening

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that might need help and learn something or That's all I.

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Speaker 2: Care about is I want to help other people. I

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figure I was put in this situation to learn it

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to try to help other people, and I'm still learning

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to I learned stuff from you today and I didn't

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know about the curve might be a female. I mean,

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I want to learn everything I can about these beings

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because I want to show them respect. But at the

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same time, I want to know everything I can, and

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I want to share everything I can with everyone else

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so they don't have to go through what my husband

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and I went through of not knowing. I want people

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to be able to have that little extra, Hey, I

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have the information. I can read all these things and

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make my own decisions, but this is helpful in one

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way or another. I just feel it's important to help people.

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Speaker 1: If you've had an encounter with Bigfoot or something else

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you can't explain, you'd like to share your story on

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the podcast, email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com.

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Check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com. You can find

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links to social media, past episodes, merchandise, everything you need

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all in one place, And until next time, remember there's

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something in the woods.