Speaker 1: Lisa wasn't a believer in bigfoot when her and her
husband relocated to Arkansas, but when things started happening right
in her own backyard, she started to change her mind. Now,
Lisa is a Bigfoot witness who has had numerous sightings
on her Ozark property and has developed an understanding and
knowledge base of how they behave. But don't just take
her word for it. Bigfoot researchers and outsiders have visited
the property and not only found evidence, but have had
their very own sasquatch sidings. Lisa shares her Bigfoot experiences
on this episode of Bigfoot Crossroads. How did all of
this start for you?
Speaker 2: We had lived in California unwillingly for about probably thirty
some years, and when my husband's job went remote, we
decided we wanted to move somewhere else, anywhere else, of course,
so we kind of just liked I guess because it
took blind faith and just took a leap of faith
and put our thing on the map and decided on
Arkansas in the long run, and Arkansas went out, so
we moved here in I think it was April of
twenty two, and we live in the Ozark Mountains. In
prim Arkansas, and it's all pastures and and forces in
woods and stuff like that. It's very peaceful. Neighbors are
you know, a distance away from each other. So we
have like three acres and it's it's a little bit
of family area than the rest is all woods. In
the one section of the woods we call the haller.
In the first couple of years, we used to bush
hog it down and make it look really pretty. But
then we had a lot of deer and everything come.
So we just decided that we were gonna, you know,
give it back to nature because we love the deer
coming and all the other little creatures with it. And
I think that helped start our issue with Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Whenever you let it grow back.
Speaker 2: We let it grow back, and we were feeding. We
feed the squirrels in the foot in the front, and
the rabbits, and then we have we get tons and
tons of deer in the holler. We don't fill the
feeder all the time, but every once in a while
we feel it, you know, fill it up for the deer.
And we've we've so we've got we let the hall
grow back where you can barely see anything in it.
You've got the deer feeder. We occasionally feel feel, but
we also we don't hunt. So the animals have gotten
to the point where they know it's safe to come
into our area and we don't bother them because we
don't let other humans in it. The only time my
husband goes in there is to fill the deer feeder,
and that's basically it. So it is completely to them.
Plus there's water sources all around. We have a great,
big corridor that goes for miles. It's just you know,
dense wood, so it's like, as they say, the perfect
spot for these creatures. Plus we have berry patches, I
mean tons of berry patches. We have apples, so they
have their water source, they have fresh fruits, berries, deer,
small game, and they're completely left alone. Well, we didn't
know we were starting, you know, we were causing you know,
I guess in it vertally, you know, bringing them in
even more. We had no clue they Honestly, I didn't
believe in Bigfoot at the time. I just thought, yeah,
well whatever, you know. I never really took it seriously.
And I remember it was in twenty four My husband
and I were sitting in the back porch and this
really awful, awful, foul smell came out and it was
just overwhelming, and it's you know, we're like, what is
that because we're used to the chicken manure stuff on
the fields, right, and I think, you know what that
smells like I do. But it was not like that. Yeah,
it was different than that. It was skunky, musky, dead carcass.
It was just overwhelming, and then we heard this scream
like I've never heard in my life. It wasn't there.
It wasn't elk, which we don't have here, it wasn't
mountain lion, it wasn't any of this area, nothing, And
it happened the one time, and it was close, but
we're like, okay. We both looked at each other, it's like,
what the heck was that, and we're like, nah, that
really didn't happen. We're both imagining it. And we tried
to just blow it off. And about six or seven
minutes later, the smell came in again. It was so
much stronger, and another scream, and now we're like, there's
something out there. It's really close. We don't know what
it is, and we were getting really uncomfortable, and you know,
when the hair on the back of your neck stands
up and all over your arms and stuff. Sure that
was happening. That was happening to both of us, and
we were both still in like this doesn't make sense.
It wasn't commuting, It wasn't you know, We just it
just wasn't computing in our brains, and we're like, okay,
this is okay. And then remember the snow got so
close that our eyes were watering, and another scream came off,
and that screen was so close. It was maybe twenty
thirty yards away at the most, maybe even closer, and
we're like, okay, we're done, We're going inside. And I
remember after that, because I wanted to know what it was.
I started listening to every sound on the internet anywhere
I could try to figure out what it was. Now
we're not going to lie in the back of our
minds like could that be like one of those bigfoot things,
because none of the noises that we came up with
were even close to it. And it was so loud,
so enormous. I call it Godzilla the sound of Godzilla
because it was just so strong and so loud, and
the lung capacity alone was amazing. The only thing I
found close to it was a silver back what they
call it silver back ape or whatever, and when they're angry,
it's got some kind of aggression scream. It was kind
of like that, but amplified one hundred times more. But
that's the closest thing I could find to it. So
we just let it go, and you know, life went on,
and we'd hear the noises from time to time and
we were still unsure what it was, and I believe
it wasn't till January because we weren't looking for fort
prints or anything. You know, we were just trying to
get on with life. My husband had to go in
the haller to refill the feeder, and he always takes
our lawnmower because it's, you know, it's easier to get to.
But because we had eight inches of snow, he decided
to walk. While he was walking out there, he found
a footprint. And nobody walks out there, and who's going
to walk out there barefoot? Makes no sense? And the
print was was really cuge. So he took a picture
of the print and then we're like, oh God, is
this possibly a big foot? So I took the pictures.
I asked some of our neighbors who are really good hunters.
They had no clue. I ended up setting it to
different people that were, you know, in the field that
did analysis on footprints and stuff like that. I sent
it to a couple of other people, and with the
three people that I went to independently, they all came
back with juvenile bigfoot. So we're like, okay, this is
possibly a bigfoot. Then things started escalating. Things around our
house got moved around, the screams got louder, more and
more footprints were showing up, not only in the holler,
but in the front of the house. At night. You
could hear banging. I guess, I guess they call it
like tree knocks. We'd hear banging on our wood fence
on this one side. And it got to the point
where it was just we feel like we're being bombarded
by you know, this this creature. So I was reaching
out for help because I was well, my husband was
really uncomfortable, but I was scared to death. It's like,
this thing, is it's going to come in our house?
Is it going to break in? Is it going to
hurt us? It's going to hurt our animals. I mean,
we knew nothing about this creature. Absolutely nothing. So I
kept reaching out over the internet to try to find help,
and I wasn't really getting anywhere with it. No one
had any real advice. No matter where when oh put
trail cams up, I put trail cams up useless. They
still came around. They just ignore the trail gams go
right around it, right, you know. And so we finally
had to just keep doing things. First we started with
motion lights and we put it around our property, thinking, hey,
that's going to solve the problem. And it was weird because,
like I think a couple days later, by everemotion light
we had where and there's like they're from on trees
or next to trees. The branches were broken on the trees.
Every single one had a big branch broken. It's like, okay,
so this is my belief. They knew what those things were,
and they said up they they were putting like some
kind of perimeter. They knew they didn't cross. Just turn
on those motion lights, because how did every single motion
we put up, Oh my god, I think eight motion
lights if not more, And why would something be broken
by every single motion light? Just didn't make any sense,
and the problems were still happening because the lights weren't
going on, they would go around it. So eventually we
put on big spot lights of floodlights all around our house.
We had the electric company coming one of those big
ones on the telephone poles.
Speaker 1: Right, a Boer light.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what we do is we have them facing
in towards our home and nothing's facing out like into
the wood area. We leave that completely dark and we
leave that to them. And it's taken i'd say maybe
a year at that time for them to finally understand, Okay,
this is your area, this is our area. You don't
cross our area. We've got no problem. And up to now,
which is over two years later, they don't cross those boundaries.
Now they'll go in the front yard and walk across it,
but you know, they don't come they'll come home maybe
probably three feet to the house, but to the front porch.
But they've never gone on our porch. You know. The
only thing weird they did was we have garbage cans
on our front to the side of our porch and
they're in a little enclosure and we've been here four years.
Never once have those things ever fallen out ever through
any storm. And as you know, like where you live
you get heavy winds during rains and downpours, never ever
fallen out. My husband and I left one day and everything
was intact, and we came home and on the side
of our house by the porch, one of the garbage
cans was out of the enclosure and the lid was
put on, but it was put completely upside down in
the middle of the driveway. Okay, now, okay, now, if
that thing fell out, it would have fallen out, the
lid would have fallen off, and it would have laid sideways.
But this was completely intact, turned upside down and just
put in the middle of the driveway. And we checked.
There were no claw prints, no you know, marked from
a bear or anything like that. It was just neatly
put there. And then we started noticing thing after that.
Things were moved around and it's like, okay, you know,
they're playing games. When my husband would go to the workshop,
sometimes they would do their whooping and their little you know,
roar and wood knocks. But one thing we did do
when we were trying to make safety for our houses.
If if my husband would go to the workshop or anything,
he would carry a gun. It wasn't to hurt anything.
It was just in case for protection. And you know,
even when he went to the haller. We still do
that to this day, though things have changed immensely since
the beginning. But I really think it's because of a
learning process. I pretty much getting to know how these
creatures act and in how we interact with them. I
believe the first sighting I saw physically of them, Oh,
I'd have to look on my diary, but I can't
get it in front of me. I believe it was
right before summer, right when it was warming up. I
remember we had a new puppy and I was sitting
in our living room, but we have those class doors
to go outside, the sliding glass doors, and I remember
looking out in something really dark caught my eye and
it's like, well, what's that, And of course humans we're curious.
I go to look at the window. There's one of
them standing straight up right there in our holler, you know,
mind his own business, his back towards me. I remember
staring at it and complete disbelief, like I'm seeing what
I'm seeing. I could see him from him or her, sorry,
from the torso up and it was doing something in
front of it, and then it took like two steps
and it was gone. It was just gone. I mean
those steps must have at that time been enormous. And
that was the first time I saw. The second time
was when our berries were in. We have a back
porch which we sit on all the time daily. I
mean we always do it. I do it during the
day when my husband's working, and we go out every
night with our dogs and they run around and it's
our face family time. And it was another day I
was out there on the porch by myself and I'm
sitting there and I thought there was a rock in
a really huge rock in our hallers, Like, how could
there be this huge brown rock in our haller? It
doesn't make any sense. It wasn't there before, and it's
it's within all the foiliage, and it's like that is
like really really strange. And next thing I know, this
rock danns straight up walks away takes big, humongous steps.
I'm screaming because I was completely caught off guard. It
didn't care. It just like kept going on about its business.
But those footsteps were so huge and the swing of
its arms were really huge. I remember it was dark brown,
slender but muscular. It wasn't big in fat or anything,
you know, and had the dark fur. I could not
see its space because of the back, but the gate
of its walk was just I would have to take
three or four steps just to make one of those
steps easily, I mean easily.
Speaker 1: Definitely a different one than the first one you saw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from what we've figured out over time. Of course,
there are two juveniles, one gray one and I believe
a female. I haven't seen her, but i've her. I'm
guestimating it's a female, but it's weird because she's it
her well, I'm going to say her. Her scream is
different than theirs. And for some reason, you get this
like maternal like hey you better get back here now
kind of thing. You know. It just has the commanding
presence of like a female, a mother. But I can't
say for certain. I'm just going on my observations, you know.
And as time gone on, we had I don't know,
if you know, NA North American would a conservatory conservatory? Yeah, Well,
they came out because I wanted to find anything out
I could about this. I'm the kind of person I
have to know everything about something. If it's affecting my family.
So they came out. They did a really long investigation
and they found their evidence, and they found trails, they
found tracks, they found everything they needed to prove that, yeah,
that you have an active Bigfoot location. It's like oh goodie,
like yes, but we had. We had also found out
because I had told a few neighbors and and people
around us. At the same time we had found our
first original footprints. A farmer behind us aways also found
tracks and he took a picture and it was sent
to us. And another neighbor had tracks and told us
about it. So in time with the within the two
years we have found it, they come from one area
and completely go through I mean the whole our town
of Prim. They cross right through our town of Prim
into into Woodrow. We had one people that live maybe
two miles away from us. They I think this is
like nine months ago now. They had bought a house,
moved in and their son was either in the backyard
or looking out the window, and they have a creek
and he noticed something dark leaning down in the creek
and he didn't know what it was, and he said
it stood up and walked away. He said it was
described exactly what I did, dark brown, lender, furry, he goes.
He knew it wasn't a bear, you know, and it
just walked away like nothing, big steps, so we know
it travels well, they travel that way. I think they
stay here a lot because we you know, we leave
it empty. We don't allow people who're not hunters. Everybody
around us except for in this little area that they're
going through, there's no hunting, which gives them, you know, first,
they've got an easy access to hide well while walking.
They have the food, they have the water that they
have a place to sleep anywhere they need to. They
have everything they need while they're traveling to wherever they're
traveling to and from, if that makes any sense, Yeah.
Speaker 1: For sure. And they have people to watch they have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are yeah, yeah, oh yes, entertainment that is
that is one hundred percent true. In the winter especially
and in certain days during the week, my husband watched
certain things and I come in the bedroom and I
play on my computer, but I always have the TV
on just because. And it took us a year to
open up our curtains and stuff again to you know,
we felt safe. So we keep our curtains open now
and in the warmer months until we put the air
conditioner in. We have our winges open, so I'll have
the TV on and be doing stuff, and then when
it's time for bed, I would turn off the TV
and you know, turn off the lights, and we get
these little pebbles. We would be thrown at the window,
and it's like okay, and it's a big six foot
fence in order to get it over there and hit
our windows. Nothing hard enough to break it, but just enough,
you know, to you can hear it hits the thing,
and I went outside and see a little pile of rocks.
So I believe, and they've done this many times now
that they want the TV back on. I really truly
believe it. I honestly truly do. And I've noticed there's definitely,
like I said, at least four because sometimes I'll be
sitting out back or even in the front and you'll
hear they have a very straight whistle. It's like a
solid off key whistle. It's hard to describe. And you
hear it at one end of the property, and then
you hear another one coming from the other end of
the property, and they slowly get closer and closer together.
So I think that's one form of their communication when
they're trying to, you know, get back together with each
other from probably going off on what they were doing before.
So they'll keep whistling until their whistles get close enough
and then it finally stops. But sometimes when I'm in
the back sitting on the porch, they'll whistle at I
believe me. And it took time. But sometimes when I
whistle back at them, they'll return the whistle. But that's
taken a long time to get to. But now, I
mean I've seen them, oh my god, oh jeez, seven
or eight times we've had had guests on our property
that's seen I know they've seen the gray one for sure.
We've had the investigators have some encounters with them as well.
They found footprints, of course, made cast. My favorite thing
was the knuckle print they found. I really thought that
was really cool. So they took a picture and they
casted that. The Norwalk guy found hair samples. Some came back.
I think it was Mountain lion and bear, but one
came back. They didn't know. They couldn't. They said they
just didn't know. So we have no clue what that
hair was. But you know, they've found so much evidence
that they're here. The other day, we were supposed to
have an investigation on Saturday and it got canceled at
the last minute. And I had told my husband ahead
of time, well, investigators, come, I want you to go
see if the berries are in, because I said, I can.
They're back. I know, I can. I can feel them.
I can. I saw them. What was it last week?
I saw the two of them. I said, I think
the berries are in cound. You just check to see
if the berries are in. Well, the investigators didn't come,
but my husband had to go to the workshop, so
he went back to right behind our our workshop area
that starts the berries, and he walked up and said, yeah,
the beerry's in. He goes, there's a great footprint right there.
I was like, yep, I knew they were here. They
loved the berries. They just I mean, they'll be here
as long as those berries are here. They're they're going
to be like crazy during the summer. They love the berries.
And now we have the apple tree in full bloom
that they're going to love that as well. I mean,
they love the fruit as much as the other you know,
animals and stuff they eat which I'm not. I know,
they eat deer. We've had it. In one investigation. They
found I don't know how to describe it. It was
a tree and they had like a limb out of it,
but bones were put on it, and we believe that
we believe that was a territorial marker. I'm almost positive
of it. I mean, why else would you put bones on?
And we don't have neighbors around to play jokes everyone here,
you know, they're really busy with their lives. Plus, how
are they going to know to put that in the woods?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And for people to find that that's not going to happen.
People around here don't play games, and people don't around here.
People respect other people's property. Unless you have the permission
to go in it, you never go in it. I mean,
it's people are so respectful about other people's property alignes here.
It's it just blows my mind. You know, it's not
like people around here would play any kind of practical
joke of any kind. It's just not the nature of
anyone around here.
Speaker 1: Well, i mean you've seen them, so you know it's
they're there, and that kind of change his perspectives a
bit or at least it did with me once I
knew that they were there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to see it, you've got to feel it.
You've got to experience in order for your brain to
comprehend it. Didn't you feel about me?
Speaker 1: Oh? For sure? It definitely made things, I want to say,
easier to look for, but it's more like easier to notice.
Speaker 2: It just helps your mind accept it as well.
Speaker 1: Well, you know that these things for instant, the bones
in the trees, you now know that, Okay, well this
is a possibility now where before you would have just
written it has to be a person or just some
random weird occurrence, But now you know they're there, so
now okay, well they could have done this, and then
your brain starts working, right, why are they doing it?
Why did they put that there? Do you notice any
change in their behavior?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean from the very beginning, like I said,
extremely were extremely fearful of them. We thought they were
going to be aggressive, you know, and the streaming and
it just it was overwhelming that as time got on.
I'm honestly, I don't know if this is gonna make sense.
I honestly feel like they're prospective of us because I
think there's a mutual respect for each other, because hey,
look we're going to give you this land. We're going
to leave you alone. We're gonna let you do your thing.
You just let us do ours. Will respect you, you
respect us. And they have done that. I mean, it's
funny because now all the I would say, other apex
creatures like mountain lions, bears, even the coyote, will not
come on our property anymore. They will go around our property,
but they will not go on our property. I mean
I can hear the coyotes nightly, but they don't dare
come on our property. They don't, they won't. They just refuse.
Deer will come on our property. I mean armadillo's you know,
all the small creatures come on and they're happy. I mean,
they're running around like crazy. They feel safe here. But
the larger, more aggressive animals will not come anywhere near
the property. And I honestly believe it has to do
with them, I really truly do. And I think I
feel I mean, I've gone from being fearful to feeling
comfortable with them that if they ever just left, it
would be emptiness. There would be an emptiness because we're
so they're so part of our life now that it
would be completely empty without them, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: And they leave your animals alone.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let that's the perfect example. We have a puppy.
He's a Saint Wiler. He's Saint Bernard and Rottwiler. He's
a big boy. He's turning eighteen months now, and so
he wants to be our alpha. And the our dogs
go inside outside and sometimes they get scared of these creatures,
it's true, and they'll come on the porch and they'll hide.
Other times they'll bark, depends on their mood. But these,
you know, the these I'm gonna call them creatures, have
never ever done anything to our dogs. And if our
dogs are scared, they come right in. But I guess
it was I think it was two weeks ago. It
was during the day and I was in the bedroom
and our our puppy, we call him Squatch because he
has really big pause. Not because of Bigfoot, but you
know the big pause. That's so we called him Squatch,
you know, which is kind of ironic because the bigfoots. Well. Anyways,
he starts freaking out and I mean he doesn't freak out,
and I come out of the bedroom. I go out
to the porch and there's one of the bigfoot standing
out on the other our fence, a little bit back,
maybe three or four feet, And my stupid puppy thinks, well,
I'm an alpha. I'm going to show you. And he's
going crazy on the fence, almost knocks over our fence
because it's not a real strong fence in that side.
It's just a barrier in case you had cows in
that area. And the bigfoot gets a little closer screams,
probably I think he's screaming at the dog, and the
dog's still going off. It doesn't stop, and then the
bigfoot just stops dares at him for a minute. I'm like,
oh god, what's he gonna do, you know, like, because
he's just staring at the dog as the dog's barking
and screaming, and then he just turns and walks away.
It's like, oh, you know, even though the dog was
being aggressive to him, he was not being aggressive to
the dog because I think he knew that the dog was,
you know, still a puppy and just trying to show
his little alpha for the other dogs. But I remember
he yelled at one of his big yells, and I'm
standing on the porch like I'm just like frozen solid
watching this because sometimes you just can't react because your
mind is just trying so hard to keep up what's
going on, because it's still so unreal, you know. And
it just screamed at the dog, cared at it for
a while, and just walked away like it was nothing.
It's like, I'm out of here. And then the dog
finally had to go get him, get him off the fence,
and you know, he didn't do it. He hasn't done
that since. But it was like, but that the creature
could have easily easily done something to the dog. If
it was a nasty creature, it would have done something
for sure. But all I do was yell at the
dog and leave, pretty much like saying, hey, dude, just
chill out now. This is cool. But I'll never forget
that because he's just he was just like, God, will
you shut up?
Speaker 1: Do you have more experiences than your husband?
Speaker 2: Yes? They will not show themselves to my husband. They refuse.
Now my husban and carries a gun. I do not look.
I'm sixty three years old. I can barely walk, so
I'm very I guess for a creature, very meek. I'm
an easy target where my husband he's you know, he's younger,
and he's he's few years younger, he's stronger, he's in
really good health. He carries the gun. But they do
play with him, and they're very protective of him as well,
if that makes any sense. But it's funny because we've
had six other people come on our property and see
these creatures. The only thing my husband has seen is
part of the gray one flashing by when he looked
out the window, but he couldn't see the whole body.
And that's all he's seen so far. But I swear
they are playing games with him because sometimes when we
go to the workshop, you can hear them in the
woods right next to us. They're literally planking us as
we go, you know, to the workshop and stuff like that. Now,
like I said, i've seen him, my husband has it.
But when my husband on one of the last investigations,
they went deeper into the woods and my husband hurt
his knee really bad, so he was he couldn't the
next time they went out an investigation, he couldn't go
as far as everybody else because he was really, really hurt.
So he said, look, I can only go this far,
and they continued on somewhere else, so, which was stupid.
They left him by himself, but his knee got even worse.
So he started going home and he was wobbling and
he had to take a stick and everything to get home,
and one of them was following him. He said he
could he could hear it. He could hear all the
tree limbs breaking and all the stuff everywhere, all the
way to the house. And then when he got to
the house, I think he said it he couldn't because
it was getting it was dark, so all he could
see when he got to the house were in our street.
Called shortly, he said, all he could see down the
road were two eyes. He know, it's just two eyes.
He goes, and they saw us on the road, and
then he goes, it just went back in. Now he thinks,
he thinks, it's like, well, they were stalking him and
maybe they were going to hurt him. It's like, look,
and this is my opinion from dealing with this for
two years and seeing them and everything. If he was
by himself in these woods and it was dark, even
if it was like if they wanted to do anything
to him, they would have. I honestly think from what
I've seen and how they've evolved and how we've evolved
with them over the time, that they were making sure
he got home to the house safely. That is truly
my opinion, because that preacher literally came out in the
road showed him well, I mean, he couldn't see the figure.
He could only see the eyes making sure that he's there,
and then he left and went away. Now that can
prove to you anytime he wanted to, he could have
jumped out and done anything he wanted, no problem. And
with my husband's condition at the time, how would he
be able to defend himself even though he had a gun,
could barely walk. And if there was because we know
there's more than one, if there were two following him,
one could have been from the behind, one could have
been from the front. You just never know. But there
was no aggression shown whatsoever. They were just following and watching,
and once he got home, they left. But like I said,
that's that's just my opinion. But I truly believe they
had no ill intent whatsoever, absolutely none.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure they would have helped, but it
sounds more like an escort than a stalking situation exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I don't think they were gonna help, but like, yeah,
I truly believe it's an ex escort, just to make
sure he got back to an area, you know, which
was safe for him. I don't I don't know if
they would have helped, but I just figured it was
an escort. I really truly did. And they seem I
noticed they seem to be more vocal after a storm,
and they're they're around more after a storm, a lot more,
which I don't understand why, but they are. And they're
more quiet in the winter, but they're they're here more,
but more in the Holler area because in the winter,
my husband puts out tons of Christmas lights, I mean,
oh my god, so they avoid the fly I mean,
trust me, we're known all over for his Christmas lights,
so they don't go around the front. And they're they're
pretty quiet in the winter. But the only way you
know they're here in the winter is because the footprints
they're you know, they're in the snow or in the
mud or stuff. That's how you know they're here. But
for some reason, I don't know if it's because of
the cold, they're not as vocal. But spring, summer fall
there they could get really loud at times, but winter
you hardly hear them. You know they're there, but you
hardly hear them. They're just really quiet for some reason,
which I don't know. Like I said, I don't know
if it's because of the weather, I don't know. But
that's what I've noticed in the last couple of winters.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. A lot of times in situations like this,
they'll be more active at a specific time of year,
but your situation really sounds like they're just there year round.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are.
Speaker 1: You said no hunting on your area? Is there public
hunting around your area? Anywhere?
Speaker 2: Private? But you know private land, so, but all the
other private land, they're big hunters, all of them except
for across for us, and if you cross our yard
across the street, that's all pasture. So I don't believe
people hunt in the pasture. I've never seen it. Behind us.
It's an older woman, she doesn't hunt or anything, and
I don't know how much property she has. Then behind
that it's all you know, forest and woods. Then it
hits I guess the main highway eventually, and then after
that it's all woods and another farm and then more woods,
so you've got you know, tons and tons of woods
which they can get around very easily that people don't
hunt in. Plus I hear there's caves and all kinds
of you know, areas I have I've never been back there,
but there's slopes and hills and I guess little mountains
and stuff like that, and I would you call it
ravines and things like that. There's one ravine supposedly I've
heard of further down that people can throw things in
and they just disappear and you never see them again,
which I don't know. I know it's down that way,
but I've never seen it, never been to it. So
there's I mean, there's plenty, plenty of places for them
to live. I mean they have, you know. I think
they showed themselves at times because they want to show themselves.
They want us to know they're here, and I don't.
I really don't think they fear me, because what am
I going to do. I'm a little old lady. I'm
not kid to do anything to them. I'm not, you know,
And I think they get that where my husband is more.
I know they like to play games. Of them because
during during the investigations, I guess, as some of the
investigators had said, because we only let one group of
investigators here, and I guess call it like pika glue,
where these these creatures will will follow them and they
can hear them and track them, and we've got some
they got some pictures of their eyes shine recently. I
think it was at the last investigation and when they
went and when they're done, they go back and they evaluate,
you know, what they find and the eye shine because
the eye shine was coming from down to the bottom
of the hill. When they re enacted it, they the
eye height was about it seven feet high and there's
no trees for it to grab on, no rocks for
to stand on. So it's not an owl. It's you know,
it's not it's not a it's not a bear now
it's and it's not the first time they've but this
is the first time they've actually got the picture of
the eye shine. And the whole time they were being
they knew they were being followed. And during the investigations
a lot they get followed and one of the investigators
I armber him saying that it was literally playing peekaboo
with him going behind the trees. This is when they
also learned that they do a spider crawl that they
get all the way down and they'll they'll use the
spider call to move around so that, you know, they
go from however tall they are, to really low on
the ground and travel that way. That's how they feel
that the knuckle print came to about that it must
have been you know, down in that spider crawl position
or at least sitting, and that's the way it got
up and it just dug its knuckles into the dirt
and into the mud. I mean, my favorite evidence besides
the hair. You know, footprints. We don't even take pictures
of them or cast them because anymore because they're all
the time, so that that sounds silly, But to us,
it's just no big deal anymore. It's like, yeah, you
want footprints, go out, you'll find some. It's just it
is what it is, you know, it just becomes the norm,
which is something I never thought i'd say in my
entire life.
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens, you know, I know it, like
you're saying, I'm sure it sounds unbelievable to a lot
of people. But it's in my experience that there's just
some places out there, some situations out there where it
is that way, especially in this part of the country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I thought this was new, but we
found out through stories because when this first came out
that we had stuff here, of course we were rida
killed and made fun of, you know, we're crazy whatever,
blah blah blah. But then people that lived in prim
for a long time, that you know, people knew, came
out and said, well, you know what, let me tell
you my story. And and also then people are started
backing off because here's people they knew who lived here
all their life that are finally starting to speak up.
And we heard a story about the property behind us
that thirty years ago they were hearing the screams and
stuff like that. So I don't think that this honestly
just happened two years ago. I think it's after we
let it, things starting to grow, the yard and stuff
like that that we honestly started to notice. And the screen,
I think they just started getting more vocal then, kind
of like announcing that they're there. Yeah, in the beginning
that hey, this is our territory. You know, you keep
your distance kind of thing. I think, honestly that because
the screaming still comes down then. But I think it's
between them now, you know, especially because they scream a
lot at night, off and on, because but I think
they're you know, like calling to each other, if that
makes any sense. Now, it's not like they're just screaming
for no reason.
Speaker 1: Right. Do they act differently whenever you have the researchers
out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playful. You know that sounds stupid. They're very
curious and they'll come in because they want to know
what's going on. Now, we've had several researchers, these reach
researchers have some kind of encounter or experience with them,
which is like, well, that's what you came for. So
I'm glad. Now we've had uh, let's see, Larry and
Liz saw the gray one full body gray one, so
they saw that one completely. We've had I think four
or five of them when they were in the field
have had some kind of encounter with them. So yeah,
I think they're very curious, very curious.
Speaker 1: I want to ask some questions about the gray one. Now,
your thoughts are that this is a juvenile How big
is the gray one.
Speaker 2: No, the gray one I think is an elderly one.
He's eight. He's at least eight. The darker brown ones,
the slenderer ones, those are the juveniles, I'm I'm sure
of it. And the gray one he's about eight foot tall.
The other one's about seven foot but he's about eight
foot tall and he's wider. I just get the feeling
he's older, and I don't see him that often. I
mean that one time he literally was coming straight towards
the house and we just sat there watching him come
towards us, and I remember Larry called on the walkie
talkie to the guys because they were in the This
is during the investigation. So they came running and when
they came running, we turned our had to look at them,
and then the creature was gone. It just it was gone.
But we all three saw it at the exact same time,
you know, and it's like, okay, why is it gray?
I mean, I don't know if they age and turn
gray or it's just gray, but I don't know. I
just get the feeling gets older. Now. Footprints. I think
the biggest footprint my husband found, well, they I think
them and my husband found it was twenty or twenty
two inches long, and the small and then then they're
smaller ones. So I think the small smaller ones are juvenile.
I know the one is definitely the gray one. But
then there's one in between that, which I think could
be the one that I'm not sure if I've seen
it or not, but I think maybe a female.
Speaker 1: And is that track curved?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember. I couldn't tell.
Speaker 1: You pay attention to the track. If if you draw
a line from the little toe to the hill, does
it go through to the middle of the hill.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't remember. I know one, the
very first one we took was definitely curved. It was
major curved, like maybe that something happened to its foot.
The other ones, I don't know. I never really paid attention.
Is a big footprint, I mean I have I think
we have some pictures up on the Biggie foot page.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have to go look. And I mean, this
isn't like a rule. People who have been doing this
much longer than I have that I learned a tremendous
amount from had the belief that some of the females
have more of a curved track than the straight track
that you see so often you see less of those tracks.
And they had their reasons for all of this, which
I won't get into, but I'm sure that there is.
If you've got juveniles and you've got you know, males
running around, that there's at least one female somewhere. I
promise you know.
Speaker 2: The first track that he found it had I know
that on the big foot page because it's in snow,
but you could tell there was a there was a
big curve to it where to the point where we
thought that maybe you know, it had it had hurt
something in its foot because it was a huge curve.
But I mean the other footprints I'd have to ask
my husband because I just really never paid attention. I mean,
I could send you some pictures, that's no problem, but
I can't. I couldn't tell you because I really didn't
pay attention for a curve or not. I just saw
a big footprint.
Speaker 1: What about head shape? Are they conical shaped or around it.
Speaker 2: Thin? Like you know that little slope on top because
I forgot what it's called not I wouldn't call it
a conehead, but it goes up. There's a certain word
for it. But I can't think of it like a crust. Yeah,
I guess you would say. Yeah, the ones like the
two juveniles, they're more slender. They're about seven foot tall.
The brown hair, the brown thick hair. But yeah, their
head goes up to a point, and their faces from
what I can tell, you know, incest or what do
you call it, kind of smushed in.
Speaker 1: Have you gotten a good look at the face?
Speaker 2: Not really, not from the distance. I mean you can
get the body and get the arms, but the face
is still a bit blurry, if that makes if I've described,
it's just hard. It's just really hard to get the features.
You know, I can tell it's in set, but I
can't get the whole thing even when it's it's looking there.
I don't know if it's because my brain's not processes
processing it, or it's the distance, because I think the
furthest the way I've seen him is maybe thirty yards.
That would be the farthest because they come in. They
come in. The first footprints that my husband found were
right at our fence to our backyard, next to which
so it's like they were standing next to the tree
and watching. Which at first, when you know, when this
first happened. That really scared the heck out of me,
because it's like, what are they going to do? Because
we only have like a little cow fence in between
the yard where we have our dogs and our family space,
and you could not my dog to knock it over
here really wants too. And so we get these flipprints,
and so this thing has been i mean literally watching
our house from a backyard, which from there is maybe
twenty yards from our porch. I'm sorry, that's scared the
living life out of me. You know, it made me
fear for my safe I honestly felt like other people,
I want to leave. I want to I want to go.
I don't want to be here anymore. I don't feel safe.
I mean when we first this first happened, we we
shut the windows, we shut the curtains, we locked in
the blinds, doors were always locked. I mean, we literally
were a prisoner in our owner, in our own house
because we well, I particularly was scared to death because
we didn't know how to protect ourselves against these creatures.
We couldn't find any real help out there. I mean
when I went everywhere looking for help, and it took
us over you know, time to figure out how to
do it. That's another reason I did that that the
Biggie sorry, the Biggie Foot Facebook page, because I had
a lot of questions and I needed them answers. So
over the two years, I've been gathering information and plus
learning from the experiences of what we live and taking
that with some scientific things found, and you know, and
plus I read all the eyewitness reports, and you know,
I've done a lot of research in the last two
years because this is survival for us, where other people
it's a hobby. We have to live this every day.
So I put the biggy Foot page up where questions
of people as I'd given the best or I could
give them by research, experience, et cetera. This way, you know,
they have a question, they can at least look it
up and get an idea that they might now I
want to believe it. That's fine, but at least they
have something to start off with and information that is
useful and helpful. And that's the reason I started that
page because so many people had questions that they had
no answers to that they couldn't find. So I try
to answer any question that comes that is given to
me or comes my way, you know, to give them
on the most intelligent and most research answer I can.
And like protection, you know, anything I can any question
that comes about, I'm going to find a way to
answer it. If I have to research it for weeks,
I'll do it till I find, you know an answer
that makes sense and is you know, a credible, intelligent answer,
And I'm not going to be biased about it. I'm
going to give the correct answer even if you know,
like I believe in Bigfoot, but some questions you have,
the way they're answered, it doesn't prove or deny it,
if that makes any sense. But I'm going to give
the honest, one hundred percent answer, you know. And that's
why I put up that site, because I don't want
people to go through what my husband and I went
through in the beginning, not knowing and being scared. And
how do I keep a house protected? What do I do? Now?
I have the perfect answer for that because we lived it,
we know it. How I know how to protect my family.
I know how to protect my house. I know how
to protect my pets, but we had to learn it ourselves.
But now if they have that question, all they got
to do is look on here. This is what you
can do. This is how you keep your house tafe,
This is how you keep your family safe. This is
what they do. I mean any question. Like I said,
I will try to answer any question, because I think
the more information we get out there to help the
people in I call it our community, the better it is.
Now if they want to choose to believe it totally
up to the I do not not. You know, I
do not. What would you say? I don't care. If
a person doesn't believe in Bigfoot, that is their belief.
That is their right, and I will not say anything
against them. They have a right to have their belief.
And if people believe in Bigfoot, you know, I get it,
I understand it. I'm there with you. But I'm not
gonna dog anybody else who doesn't believe in it. That
is their choice, that is their right, And I can understand.
If you don't see it, and you haven't heard it,
and you haven't dealt with it, it's easy not to believe.
I get that, and I'm just not gonna you know,
I'm not gonna bully or bully anyone because of that.
Speaker 1: After dealing with it for so long, Now, where are
you at with it. What are you wanting to do
moving forward?
Speaker 2: Protect them is my most important thing now the research.
I think we're going to take a hold to that
for a while. We might do We have until August
probably fifteenth, if we want to do an investigation, and
that's it, and then that it won't be till spring.
And the only reason that we do investigations is to
gather evidence to just support the fact that the creature exists.
We don't go after the creature. We don't try to
harm the creature. I mean, we've got hair samples, we've
got knuckle prints, we've got footprints, we've got the trails,
we've got the tracks, we've got other people's visuals and
encounters with them. So we have all that stuff and
that's what we do the investigations for to get the
evidence to show that there is the existence of these creatures.
But we in no way are going to harm these creatures.
So ours is just to continue to coexist. I don't
like I said, we may have one investigation, but I've
also decided that if we're going to have another investigation,
that I'm going to try a different a different, a
new team, someone fresh and professional to give them a chance,
just you know, one time to come in. You know,
we'll at my husband escort and stuff and let them.
But we want professionals like biologists, wildlife escorts, someone has
some kind of background that would you know that is
good at gathering evidence because the more evidence they get
we get, the more we learn from it and the
more we can approve the existence. That's my thing. But
at the same time, nobody comes on the property unless
they're invited on the property. It's not like we've made it. Hey,
you can come on look for bigfoot. That doesn't happen here.
That's a that's a big no no.
Speaker 1: Have you personally experienced anything that would be considered paranormal.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's hard to explain. I feel, after all
this time, very attached to them, and I know when
they're around, I just I know there's some extra sense
and I can It's hard to explain it is I mean.
And also I used to a long time ago, for
thirty some years, I worked in the paranormal filled with
ghosts because I can see and hear ghosts, which I
still can to this day. So maybe that is part
of the connection I have to them. I'm not sure,
because to me, it's a totally different thing. I think
of them as an animal. I don't think. I don't
think of them as the paranormal. But at the same time,
I have this extra connection which I can't explain.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people. First off, whenever you have
people like yourself who own property where they coexist with
these things on a regular basis, you hear it there.
You hear it from certain researchers that have spent decades
doing this and actually go out into areas where they're at.
They'll know when they're around. You can feel it. Yeah,
you can feel when they're around. You can feel when.
Speaker 2: They leave, exactly.
Speaker 1: The only thing I have to compare it to is
how it feels whenever you're living in your home with
someone and they're at home with you, and then it
kind of feels different. When they're not there and you're
by yourself, it's empty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels empty, But when they're there, it feels full. Yeah,
because I do feel that. It just you can tell
when they're there, and I can also tell when they're
mad and when they're when they're calm, because I can
tell sometimes they're really mad. I mean, I don't think
at us, but they're mad about something or angry. And
I can also tell when they're they're very calm and peaceful,
which is most of the time they're very very calm
and peaceful, but there's sometimes maybe they agitate each other,
but you can just feel they're not happy. They just
got that like, Okay, I'm not gonna even bother with
them today. I'm just gonna, you know, my my own business.
And you can also tell when they're watching. You can
always tell when they're well. I can always feel when
they're watching, and even my husband has at times said
he can feel them watching as well. You just even
though you can't see them, well, there's really tell tale
signs when they're here and they're really close. It goes
dead silent. No crickets, no birds, no nothing. It is
completely dead silent. It is so creaky. I mean, there's
not a noise out there. The only noise is myself
and my husband or are dogs. And even the dogs
will come up in the porch and just you know,
stay there and not go in the yard. But it
is you hear nothing, absolutely nothing, and that's that's a
Teltowel sign they're there. I mean, that's obvious. I always
tell people if you're somewhere in the woods and it
gets dead silent, and that's an apex predator and it
could be a big food as well. Now we don't.
We've had you know, reports of you know what they found,
Like I said, it's on some mountain lyon hair on
our property. They found some bear. But we haven't had
a bear here in like forever now, I mean, I
can't remember the last time there was a bear, a
mountain lion. I it's been a long time as well.
Like I said, now, the coyotes literally go around our property.
They won't even go on our property. And trust me,
we've got six dogs on our property. Big the coyote,
especially during mating season, is going to want to come
near a property that has six five female dogs. Yeah,
for sure, they don't dare. They will not come anywhere near.
And it's weird because we have in the area that
we can hear them that's more of an open field area,
but they won't come in our wooded area. They just
completely avoid it, which to me is like weird.
Speaker 1: Have you seen any orbs.
Speaker 2: When the gray the gray one appeared, I guess they
took some video or pictures. I can't remember what Matt said.
And in the picture you couldn't see the creature. All
they saw was an ORB in the exact spot. No,
I haven't seen the picture. He told me about it.
He was supposed to send it to you, but he
never did. He said, he said when they developed the
picture or a video, I'd have to ask him that
there was just an orb and that was above the
gray one. Other than that, I've never seen an orb
other than that, and I didn't mean to see that one.
We the three of us, we saw a gray creature
Clare's day. It was there, It was in front of us.
It wasn't that far away. And when the video showed
up or picture, there was just an orb, and it
was weird when they did want investigation, which I think
this has nothing to do with that. But fairy rings
were there on the property. We had a really big
one back by the workshop and a small one where
that creature was. But I don't get into the face
fairy ring stuff, but those were there. I even have
a picture of the really big one. But you know,
our investigator try to tell us some story about fairy rings,
but I'm not really into that stuff. But that's just me.
Speaker 1: Have groups reached out to you wanting to come and investigate.
Speaker 2: Yes, others have, but we had only allowed Matt. But
like I said, we have one. We have a very
short window in August, and I'd like to try someone
other than people that do podcasts, you know what I mean,
like a real group come out though that and them
have found some wonderful evidence, wonderful evidence. I mean, they're
really good at finding evidence. So I give them that.
But I'd like, you know, to have me like something
with more of a background.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which would.
Speaker 2: Be nice because I really want to start cutting out
these these you know well that has been His group
have been very respectful. They only we only do it
like a couple of times a year because we don't,
you know, we don't want to invade the space. And
when they are here, they're very respectful. My husband goes
out with them. You know, everything is done very you know,
like I said, respectful. They don't you know, go out
there and try to cause issues. They're just very quiet.
They go look, they track, they're just trying to find evidence.
They don't move anything around. They leave it as is,
which is what we want you just leave it the
way you find it. That they have found some wonderful stuff.
So if you want to see the orb or have
any questions like that, Matt could give you all the
answers because he has all the Like I said, I
think it's a video, I'm not positive, but Matt could
tell you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be really interested in seeing that. That's a
first for me. I've never heard that scenario before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just ask Matt. I'm sure he'd be great. You know,
he's he loves to help the community as well, and
he loves to share what he has. Oh, I'm sure
he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: The Heartbeat and the North American wood Ape Conservatives, those
guys are about as credential as you can get whenever
it comes to like scientific research and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they after their investigation, they put their they put
they put our our our town well prim Arkansas on
their national database as active. And plus the gentleman that
came out, his name was Caleb. They said, he said
there's a test that they want to do, but right
now it's so extremely expensive they can't do it. But
you take a sample, and the sample, whatever the test
does can tell everything that's ever walked on your property,
been on the property environmental. Yeah, but I guess he
said it's so extremely expensive. They can't they can't afford
that right now, but once they can, they want to
take a sample of the property, which they are more
than welcome to anytime. They were very respectful when they
came here, you know, and he took time. He took
a lot of time. It wasn't just he came an
e leuct He came, and he came back and he
did a long interview with us. I mean, very credible,
very respectful. You know. I really appreciated them coming out
because I wanted answers. Answers are really important to me.
If you don't have the answers, you don't know how
to handle a situation. And this was completely unexpected, you know,
unbelievable thing to try to, you know, maneuver. It really was.
And now it's weird because now it's just like, oh yeah,
second nature, which I never thought in my entire life
I could say that never Now I was the one
who wanted to run away and leave, and my husband said, no,
this is our forever home. We're going to deal with this.
We're going to stay here and we're going to work
it out, and I'm glad that we did. I'm glad
we didn't do the flight like most people do. And
you've heard so many stories that people have just one
encounter with Bigfoot and then they leave their homes forever.
And that's that, you know, And that's happened many a times,
many of times, you know. And my husband was right,
you stay and you do the best you can. And
in the long run, when we look back at it,
they were never aggressive, maybe curious, but us not knowing,
We weren't sure, and we just feared what would come next.
I mean, they've never done anything to harm us ever,
which in the beginning we didn't know that. We didn't
know their intentions. Like I said, it's been over two
years now, so we've learned through experience and time, and
it did take time to understand and it because it's
not something you live with every day.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it goes back to that story you
shared about your husband getting injured during the investigation. If
they wanted to do something, they could and I mean
you wouldn't be able to do anything.
Speaker 2: About it, no, because he was just one person by
himself in the middle of the Woods injured using a
big stick to get back because he could his knee
was not working very well. Yeah, he had a gun
with them, but okay, you hold it up a gun
and you still have your need to deal with you know,
you're not gonna be in the best condition. I mean,
you make yourself a prime target. But they didn't harm
him in any way. I honestly think they were escorting
him back to they knew he was a place of safety.
He got there, it stepped out mace haaw it's eyes,
and then walked back in and left. It's like, okay,
you're home. Good, I gotta go now I got to
go back and mess with those other researchers. And it's
weird because after we have the research thing for a
couple of days, they're amped up. I mean they're they're
major amped up, Like they like they want you to
come out and come back in. It's like, no, no, no,
we're done, We're good.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: You know it's I think they're they're I think they're
more curious than we are, honestly, I truly or maybe
as as curious.
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find your page. It's Biggie
foot on Facebook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Biggyfoot on Facebook, Lisa.
Speaker 1: I have really enjoyed it. I didn't listen to any
of the other podcasts you had been on. I like
to kind of go and blind to hearing a person's
story and everything. You've got a really interesting situation. I'm
so glad you reached out to me to share it,
and I'm glad you chose to stick it out on
your property. I think you made the right decision. And
uh yeah, I think you're You're in such an amazing situation,
and I think you're handling it in such a great.
Speaker 2: Way, you know, in a weird way. I think it's
kind of a blessing, if that makes any sense. It's
just such an exceptional experience. I'm grateful to in the
long run, habit. I really truly am my husband. I both.
I mean, even if he says the same thing, we're
so used to them now, it would be heartbreaking if
they left.
Speaker 1: It's such a unique thing, because you know, there's a
very small list of people that have the ability to
matter of factly say that they know these things exist.
Seeing one more than once is even smaller of a list,
and you're on a very elite list. Of someone that
gets to interact with them on a regular basis, they've
really gotten to the point where they trust you. I
think that is where more doors open than a lot
of other people can accomplish.
Speaker 2: I think the more respectful people are and the more
gentle people are, the more chance they have because I
think these creatures fear us as much as we fear them.
I guess that's why it's describe it. You know, they're
as they're cautious of us, as we are cautious of them,
and them seeing us probably frightens them as we see
them because we don't know what they're thinking they're feeling.
But I believe they have some of the same emotions
that we do as well, oh for sure. But people think, well,
they're creatures, so they can't have feelings. Yeah, I think
they have happiness, anger, sadness, fear, just like we humans do.
And I believe there they have a family unit. I
believe they're they have that, you know, that kind of
family like humans do as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know, obviously, but I I
definitely think that that's what you're dealing with. I think
you're dealing with a family unit that knows that they're
safe there and they have everything they need, so there's
no reason for them to leave. There's no reason for
them to worry about you. They, like I said, they
trust you at this point.
Speaker 2: I think so, and we trust them.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll go ahead and end it there, but I
appreciate it sincerely.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you for having me. Yeah, of course, I
hope it was useful.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I like I said, I pretty much focus on
the witnesses on this show in hopes of people being
in the position that you used to be in listening
that might need help and learn something or That's all I.
Speaker 2: Care about is I want to help other people. I
figure I was put in this situation to learn it
to try to help other people, and I'm still learning
to I learned stuff from you today and I didn't
know about the curve might be a female. I mean,
I want to learn everything I can about these beings
because I want to show them respect. But at the
same time, I want to know everything I can, and
I want to share everything I can with everyone else
so they don't have to go through what my husband
and I went through of not knowing. I want people
to be able to have that little extra, Hey, I
have the information. I can read all these things and
make my own decisions, but this is helpful in one
way or another. I just feel it's important to help people.
Speaker 1: If you've had an encounter with Bigfoot or something else
you can't explain, you'd like to share your story on
the podcast, email me at Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com.
Check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com. You can find
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all in one place, And until next time, remember there's
something in the woods.