Speaker 1: With Dan Ray.
Speaker 2: I'm by the way, the Warren campaign has just released
Speaker 2: an add attacking John Daton, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: Rob.
Speaker 2: I'm going to send this to you and maybe you
Speaker 2: can rack this up for me. I would appreciate that
Speaker 2: so people can hear this. This was time for release
Speaker 2: right after the debate and goes after Daton on abortion,
Speaker 2: although uh, Deton is pro choice. I think, if you know, again,
Speaker 2: if it doesn't matter, I guess that's an issue that
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren feels she needs to run on. That's okay,
Speaker 2: let's keep rolling here. We're getting your reaction, and we're
Speaker 2: going to take people. As they called in a couple
Speaker 2: of you been waiting quite a while. Let me try
Speaker 2: to get to you very quickly. John and lemonster. John,
Speaker 2: you are next on nightsig, go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Dan. How you're doing fine, John?
Speaker 1: Your reaction to tonight's.
Speaker 4: Debate, Well, last night I talked to you, well listen
Speaker 4: and later deal and I couldn't get thirty eight on.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, I'm with you. We we had trouble
Speaker 2: connecting as well, but we joined the debate in progress.
Speaker 1: I hope you were able to listen to some of
Speaker 1: it here I did.
Speaker 4: And Milton Now, so I don't say first he is
Speaker 4: very well tonight, I think he's Uh. If it was
Speaker 4: a gid E Vance, he would be the hero. He
Speaker 4: does very well, He speaks well, his facts are great,
Speaker 4: but he didn't his silvery was tough but stark pro choice,
Speaker 4: like you just said, I just heard that. Now he's
Speaker 4: agreeing with those guys on that, and they still want
Speaker 4: to fight him on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then.
Speaker 2: I think I think the Democrats view that as an
Speaker 2: issue that they've done well on in the in the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two election cycle.
Speaker 1: And and of course there.
Speaker 2: That's a real issue here in the in the case
Speaker 2: of Deeton, he is from choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Well, Rob will Rack will wreck up this ad and uh,
Speaker 2: it's about a thirty second spot and we'll play it.
Speaker 2: You won't be able to see it, but you'll be
Speaker 2: able to hear it. It talks about extremism, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So okay, that's that's.
Speaker 2: Uh. So you you from what you heard, you you
Speaker 2: liked what what Deeton had to say.
Speaker 4: Well, I think he did very well. He needs to
Speaker 4: be polished. If he was Jadie Vance, he would have
Speaker 4: crushed her tonight for sure. Yeah, she was like a
Speaker 4: deer in headlights for a while.
Speaker 2: Advance Dance has been through, you know, Vance has elected
Speaker 2: U S Senator, was through Senate races in primaries and
Speaker 2: and a final and in a runoff election and against
Speaker 2: a Democratic congressman named Tim Ryan out of the the
Speaker 2: northeast section of Ohio uh and young in the Youngstown area,
Speaker 2: and Advance you go through that and you learn from
Speaker 2: your mistakes and you get better. This was really this
Speaker 2: was Deaton's first big night, I think on on a stage.
Speaker 2: He went through some debates in the Republican primary. But
Speaker 2: I thought he did a good job.
Speaker 1: I really did.
Speaker 2: I've give him probably a better grade than you're giving him.
Speaker 2: I thought he was quick. There was a it was
Speaker 2: a fast paced debate. Every it was almost like everybody
Speaker 2: had a minute here, minute there. They had to think
Speaker 2: on their feet. They both represented their points of view
Speaker 2: pretty well. I mean, she's very predictable because we know
Speaker 2: her and he's and he made some interesting points and it
Speaker 2: was interesting. The cryptocurrency was brought up. That's there were
Speaker 2: a lot it was. I thought it was an interesting
Speaker 2: hour from what I heard.
Speaker 4: I think I think they.
Speaker 3: Also were very fair.
Speaker 4: That the very fair to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Johnny hold on, I want to play for you.
Speaker 2: This is the ad that was just released by the
Speaker 2: Warren campaign. Rob has it racked up. It's only a
Speaker 2: thirty second spot, but this was an ad which was
Speaker 2: time to be released right after the debate.
Speaker 1: Let's hit it, Rob.
Speaker 5: Extremists are coming after abortion rights everywhere, including Massachusetts. We
Speaker 5: need a senator we can one hundred percent trust to
Speaker 5: protect abortion rights. That's not John Deeton. He said he
Speaker 5: would have voted for Neil Gorsich, one of Trump's Supreme
Speaker 5: Court justices who overturned Roe v.
Speaker 3: Wade.
Speaker 5: And he bragged about raising money for Republicans to take
Speaker 5: control of the US Senate. With so much at stake,
Speaker 5: Massachusetts can't take that kind of risk. Elizabeth Warren and
Speaker 5: I approved this message.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the two points that was that
Speaker 2: just was made in that commercial, that he's raised money
Speaker 2: for other Republicans and they do that, Democrat Stewart, Republicans
Speaker 2: do it. They raise money for the other people running
Speaker 2: in other states. And the fact that he at some
Speaker 2: point apparently did say the s S would have voted for
Speaker 2: Neil Gorrich who's a very qualified United States Supreme Court justice,
Speaker 2: is actually considered one of the brightest members of the court.
Speaker 1: And and I just I don't see why anyone would vote
Speaker 1: against Neil Gorsicch other than ideological reasons. But those were
Speaker 1: the points she made in the debate.
Speaker 2: And now they're reinforced by the ad which becomes a
Speaker 2: television and a radio ad by Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 4: He did very well. I mean, he's just not polished
Speaker 4: like Vance, and nobody can be.
Speaker 6: I couldn't be all right, fair enough.
Speaker 2: All right, Johnny? It but you felt that who you
Speaker 2: gotta vote for? Deeton or Warren? Indeed, okay, thank you, sir,
Speaker 2: appreciate the call.
Speaker 4: Take care how of it?
Speaker 2: I thank you very much. Six one seven, four ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Those lines are full. I shouldn't have given you that
Speaker 2: right now, the one that's opened at six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine three ten thirty. Kevin is in andover, Kevin, you
Speaker 2: are next on nightside.
Speaker 1: Go right ahead, all.
Speaker 7: Right, Dan, How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: We get your gut to the phone there, Kevin. I
Speaker 1: thought we did read last year for a moment.
Speaker 7: Go right ahead, No worry from here. I was expecting
Speaker 7: to be next. I thought you had a couple of
Speaker 7: people in front of me. I would say, John Daton
Speaker 7: definitely want a debate tonight. He showed himself to be
Speaker 7: a true political outsider. You know, he proved himself to
Speaker 7: the independent voice Massachusetts needs. As he said himself, you know,
Speaker 7: he's here to represent us, not a political party or
Speaker 7: an entrench system, which you know that ad you just
Speaker 7: played showed exactly that. Elizabeth Warren, that's all she's got
Speaker 7: abortion abortion abortion, John has said specifically many times. I
Speaker 7: was there when he won on primary night when he
Speaker 7: specifically said there's no way he's going after abortion rights recently,
Speaker 7: I believe, and I saw several Conservatives get upset. He
Speaker 7: said if the Republicans pushed through in the National Abortion Being,
Speaker 7: he'd leave the Republican Party. And that's still all Elizabeth
Speaker 7: Warren's trying to focus on because she's hoping nobody will
Speaker 7: actually get to know John Deeton. You know, I'm pretty
Speaker 7: sure that that's why. You know, the Daton campaign, I know,
Speaker 7: tried to get debates back in September. They wanted more debates.
Speaker 7: She pushed it off till now it was on Channel
Speaker 7: thirty eight. That camp is trying to make sure people
Speaker 7: don't get to know John Daton because if they do,
Speaker 7: they're going to vote for Well.
Speaker 1: I think the Channel four made a mistake. I think that.
Speaker 2: And again I'm having worked in television, I understand what
Speaker 2: it's all about. You have these television programs, you know,
Speaker 2: Dancing with the stars, drinking at the bars, whatever. You know,
Speaker 2: they have all of these sort of you know, your
Speaker 2: survivor and stuff, and you have the loyal listeners who
Speaker 2: get upset. I've been at the television station where back
Speaker 2: in the day, when there would be some national tragedy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, you know, there would be
Speaker 1: a plane.
Speaker 2: Crash or something which cost a lot of lives, and
Speaker 2: Channel four would be taking the the live feed from
Speaker 2: CBS at the time on this horrible crash, and the
Speaker 2: VP calling in and saying.
Speaker 1: I want to watch my morning soap opera. How come
Speaker 1: we don't watch serious And it was like it could
Speaker 1: be like almost it would be nuclear war, you know,
Speaker 1: we're begun nuclear war with the Russians, and we interrupt
Speaker 1: this program, Uh, go for a special CBS report. How
Speaker 1: come I'm not seeing Love of Life or whatever.
Speaker 7: I want? To see General Hospital.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so lonely. I want to see very right.
Speaker 2: I missed it last week, So what happens is and
Speaker 2: then there's also a lot of pressure, I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: on a on a network debate, when all three networks
Speaker 2: are going to cover a presidential debate, all the local
Speaker 2: stories and and get blown out. I think they could
Speaker 2: have They could have done that from seven to eight.
Speaker 2: They could have done it from eight to nine and
Speaker 2: and and just probably taken out one or two. I
Speaker 2: don't I don't even know. I broke nights for so
Speaker 2: long for somebody here is I don't know. They still
Speaker 2: showing Dinasty as I heard, Cheers is no longer in
Speaker 2: the air.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 8: I believe.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 7: It looked like there was a show called FBI that
Speaker 7: they are running tonight. Have never watched the show, but
Speaker 7: that was what was on at the time that this
Speaker 7: debate was going.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm sure I'm sure it had some you know,
Speaker 1: thrilling plot twists or something. I don't know. I like politics.
Speaker 1: I to me, it's it's it's what democracy is all about.
Speaker 1: And if you if you don't show debates to as
Speaker 1: many people as possible, it allows people. You know, we
Speaker 1: need to get people more involved in this in the
Speaker 1: government and in the country. We need to get more
Speaker 1: people out to vote. I think all of us should
Speaker 1: agree upon that. So you you're going to give the
Speaker 1: debate to Dton and I assume that does he have
Speaker 1: your vote yet or no? There's another debate on They
Speaker 1: do one in Springfield on Thursday night.
Speaker 7: Yes, I want.
Speaker 9: I'm watching that as well, but you know, John Deff
Speaker 9: has my vote, and I think it was a no
Speaker 9: contest tonight. Halfway through I said that they should call
Speaker 9: Cubscot rules and end the debate now because she was
Speaker 9: just getting beaten so badly.
Speaker 1: I think that little league rules or something. Yeah rules
Speaker 1: the club scouts like that. Thanks Kevin, I enjoyed the call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks you soon. Okay. The only lines that now opened
Speaker 1: the two were vacated six months seven nine three one
Speaker 1: ten thirty. I got Donna, Tom and John coming up,
Speaker 1: and I got room for you at six months, seven
Speaker 1: nine three one ten thirty. If you watch the debate,
Speaker 1: if you heard the debate, who'd you think prevail? We'll
Speaker 1: be back on nightside right after this.
Speaker 10: Now back to Dan Ray mine from the window World
Speaker 10: Nights Sank Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the calls.
Speaker 2: We're looking for your reaction to tonight's senatorial debate here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. So far, all the calls have been from Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: as you would expect.
Speaker 1: Let me go next to Donna in Northboro. Donna, you
Speaker 1: are next to Nightside.
Speaker 11: Welcome, Thank you, love your show, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: You're very welcome for calling in. What'd you think? Did
Speaker 1: you watch tonight?
Speaker 11: I was thrilled that you guys aired even though you
Speaker 11: didn't have the first fifteen minutes this show, because I'm
Speaker 11: not always able to watch TV, so thank you for
Speaker 11: doing that. I think John Deeton did a fabulous job.
Speaker 11: And like Alex said, or actually your last color who
Speaker 11: I can't remember his name, Kevin? Yes, yes, yes, not
Speaker 11: as eloquent as Vance, but much most people are better
Speaker 11: than Warren because she attacks people. I mean, it's actually
Speaker 11: difficult for me to listen to her do a debate
Speaker 11: because it's like an attack as opposed to you know,
Speaker 11: if you made people wear corsets cumber buns, you know,
Speaker 11: maybe they'd take it more seriously because they'd have to
Speaker 11: watch how they were breathing. But yeah, it was very
Speaker 11: frustrating to hear her try to get the last word
Speaker 11: in on Deaton the end there where he's to have
Speaker 11: his full minute and stuff like that. When she does that,
Speaker 11: I mean, I can't relate to her on many levels.
Speaker 11: I'm a woman she doesn't have.
Speaker 2: She doesn't display much of a sense of humor. Not
Speaker 2: that a Senate debate is a laughathon.
Speaker 1: But she's almost I keep she reminds I see her
Speaker 1: sort of as a character in a late eighteen hundreds
Speaker 1: Western as the school teacher. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: children sit and you listen to me. You listen to
Speaker 1: what I have to say, because I know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is the truth and you need.
Speaker 2: To accept the truth. But I just to me, she's
Speaker 2: off putting. I mean, I'm not a favor of her,
Speaker 2: her progressive platform. I mean, she would she would have
Speaker 2: the government run everything if she could. And it was
Speaker 2: funny time when they were talking about the fact that people.
Speaker 1: In Massachusetts, in Massachusetts, I cannot find a personal care physician,
Speaker 1: a family doctor, you know, but.
Speaker 4: There's absolutely these days.
Speaker 1: No, this is not Mississippi, this is not Montana.
Speaker 2: Uh, And I think back to you know, when when Obamacare,
Speaker 2: you know, passed, it was as as Joe Biden said,
Speaker 2: you know, this is a big deal. He had another
Speaker 2: word in the middle there, but I'm not going to
Speaker 2: say that on the radio.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And and of course Obamacare was preceded by Rodney Care
Speaker 2: here in Massachusetts. And I don't know what it is
Speaker 2: accomplished other than to make medical care less successible. If
Speaker 2: it takes a year to get a personal care physician,
Speaker 2: I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I really don't.
Speaker 11: Well it's not just that, I don't know if you
Speaker 11: know this or not, but if you don't see your
Speaker 11: doctor in a certain amount of time, they will dump you.
Speaker 11: They will literally take you off. You will have to
Speaker 11: reapply as a new page. And there's a wait list.
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Oh it's ridiculous. Do you remember what the timeframe was?
Speaker 11: Money three within three years. You have to go to
Speaker 11: your doctor within three years.
Speaker 1: You know. Again, I got to be honest with you.
Speaker 2: If look, if you have a doctor, I think you
Speaker 2: need to see your doctor at least annually and maybe
Speaker 2: as you get.
Speaker 1: Older, every six months. And so I could see that
Speaker 1: if a doctor said, look, I only can carry a patient,
Speaker 1: you know, load of I don't know, two hundred three
Speaker 1: hundred patients, and if three years does not see to me,
Speaker 1: not to mean to disagree with the Dawn, but I
Speaker 1: think it's not an unreasonable expectation. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: don't go to your doctor within three.
Speaker 11: Years, well, in this environment though, where you can't find
Speaker 11: a physician, I don't think it's feasible. Like you know,
Speaker 11: if say you've been out of the country or something
Speaker 11: and then you come back and it's like, oh, you
Speaker 11: have to find a new physician. It doesn't make it
Speaker 11: any sense to me. But as far as Warren and Daton.
Speaker 1: Go, just let me just finish on that point.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if all of a sudden you were
Speaker 2: joining the military or you were joining the diplomatic corp
Speaker 2: and you're going to be out of the country, I
Speaker 2: would think that if you called most doctors and said, look,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be away for two or three years,
Speaker 2: but I'll be kind, you know, keep up my medicals
Speaker 2: and all that, I would bet you most doctors would say,
Speaker 2: will you call me when you come back, and you
Speaker 2: be all set. But I'm saying if all of a
Speaker 2: sudden they lose contact with the patient. I think I
Speaker 2: want to be defensive of doctors here. They they may say, hey,
Speaker 2: look this patient appears to have left my practice. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's that's a we're down a rabbit hole there, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that to your don and
Speaker 2: we can.
Speaker 11: We cannot view No, No, I actually see your point
Speaker 11: of view.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I see yours as well. So well, look.
Speaker 11: So so as far as the debaker's I think that
Speaker 11: Deaton did an excellent job. I think that Warren did
Speaker 11: a horrible job. And if you look at Warren, Daton,
Speaker 11: and Walls and.
Speaker 1: Vance, JD Vance.
Speaker 11: And JD Vance and Trump and Kamala, they all have
Speaker 11: something in common, and that is that the Democrats unfortunately
Speaker 11: act very entitled. They don't appear as though they feel
Speaker 11: like they have to tell the American people what they're
Speaker 11: going to do. You know, the Republicans seem to be
Speaker 11: very straightforward about it. But you know, any I'm just
Speaker 11: going to.
Speaker 2: Pick a little, a little disagreement with you on one thing.
Speaker 2: I thought the Vance was much more polished and professional
Speaker 2: h than than Governor Waltz. I think Waltz had that
Speaker 2: weird look on.
Speaker 1: His face but I also think that no, I agree
Speaker 1: Vice President Harris basically Donald Trump gave the debate to
Speaker 1: when he starts talking about uh, you know, eating cats
Speaker 1: and dogs and uh in Springfield High I don't know.
Speaker 11: Who advised him, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think anyone, any fear of person would say, uh.
Speaker 2: Vice President Harrison carried that debate in large part because
Speaker 2: she she she just looked.
Speaker 1: At him and kind of like, what is this guy
Speaker 1: talking about? And tonight I think I think that Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Warren was Elizabeth Warren. She's a she's a polished politician,
Speaker 1: and I think John Deaton came across as a litigator,
Speaker 1: as a as as very strong, I assume, in a
Speaker 1: very strong presentation in a quote of law. So I
Speaker 1: thought the debate tonight was fairly close. I'm surprised I
Speaker 1: haven't heard from some Warren supporters, but so far all
Speaker 1: of my listeners have said John Daton and uh, we
Speaker 1: We'll continue with this non scientific sampling of my audience.
Speaker 11: And don't I thank you for calling.
Speaker 1: I hope you can become a regular caller here at Nightside.
Speaker 11: I try, but I always am on hold for a
Speaker 11: while and I have to give up.
Speaker 6: But okay, well I'll.
Speaker 2: Try to I'll try to notice your name and I'll
Speaker 2: get you up to the head of the line. Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks Donna, Doctor oh.
Speaker 11: Worries, Take care, Dane.
Speaker 2: So I got one one line at six one seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty, got a couple of line in six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. If you listen to the debate,
Speaker 2: if you watch the debate tonight on channel thirty eight,
Speaker 2: love to know what your response is. I suspected most Democrats,
Speaker 2: most Warren supporters, probably we were pleased with her performance,
Speaker 2: and obviously the Republican UH supporters are very pleased with
Speaker 2: with John Deeton's performance. Feel free to weigh in here. Okay,
Speaker 2: they had the stage for an hour. You can have
Speaker 2: the stage for four or five minutes here on Nightside,
Speaker 2: and you will actually reach a bigger audience than they will,
Speaker 2: because we're the only talk show in town talking politics
Speaker 2: that this are of the night, certainly local politics, and
Speaker 2: you're heard in thirty eight states. Don't be intimidated to
Speaker 2: give us a call. Six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: Who exceeded expectations whatever, by whatever yardstick you have who
Speaker 2: won flat out one tonight's debate. And I'm not here
Speaker 2: to argue with I'm just here to get your your
Speaker 2: reaction will be right back on Nightside Night Side.
Speaker 10: It was Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me go next to John in South Boston. John,
Speaker 1: you were next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Your your thoughts on tonight's debate between Senator Warren and
Speaker 2: John Deaton.
Speaker 6: Oh, Danny, it's good to hear your voice back. Is
Speaker 6: Johnny Proll from Selby. I did the same thing, you know.
Speaker 6: I went to Channel four and then what the hell happened?
Speaker 6: And I finally got within ten minutes. I was on
Speaker 6: thirty eight. And I don't believe in coincidences. I think
Speaker 6: that was done for a reason.
Speaker 1: Oh, they mentioned it.
Speaker 2: I was watching the new news today on Channel four
Speaker 2: and they mentioned that the debate would be on their
Speaker 2: sister station, Channel thirty eight, and that it also would
Speaker 2: be live streamed on their their website. But I was
Speaker 2: stunned that it wasn't on channel for the you know,
Speaker 2: the the mothership of of well.
Speaker 6: I missed it. I was at the City council meeting
Speaker 6: today for the about all the work that's being done
Speaker 6: on the roads, and especially in southat They're a big mess,
Speaker 6: you know, but they're doing good work. They're in dangerous work.
Speaker 6: But my call was about nine thirty. As soon as
Speaker 6: I got off of that watching the debate, I thought
Speaker 6: of you right away. I said, Dan's going to be
Speaker 6: doing this stuff, so I got to give him a call.
Speaker 6: I was glad I got you.
Speaker 1: So how would you call it?
Speaker 6: I'm fighting on stay awake. This is what I thought
Speaker 6: of the debate. I love debates. And with that being said,
Speaker 6: I thought it was a great debate. Whether whether she
Speaker 6: faulted more than he did, that's another thing. But I
Speaker 6: thought the bait itself was was really good. I didn't
Speaker 6: know that much about Beaton. I know a lot more
Speaker 6: about him tonight, and I'm an unrolled voter and I'm
Speaker 6: definitely going to be going with them. I think. Just
Speaker 6: the other thing that I think twelve. I was elected
Speaker 6: in my union for quite a while, and I used
Speaker 6: to say, we all go kicking and screaming. You know,
Speaker 6: you keep on getting re elected reelected. Next thing, you know,
Speaker 6: you've got so many young guys behind you, say it's
Speaker 6: time to give it up, you know, let them get
Speaker 6: into getting involved with it. But yeah, and so I
Speaker 6: think twelve years is enough. I would hope that all
Speaker 6: senators could have twelve years and that would be enough,
Speaker 6: and just for the fresh faces and the different ideas.
Speaker 6: And so I think I'm definitely going to be heading
Speaker 6: in that direction of Deaton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sounny.
Speaker 2: The only US Senator who I can remember, there was
Speaker 2: a fellow from New Hampshire's name was Gordon Humphrey. He
Speaker 2: was an airline pilot by profession. He ran I think
Speaker 2: it was in nineteen eighty and he said he hoped
Speaker 2: to serve two terms, twelve years in the US Senate.
Speaker 2: And when he finished that second term, he announced he
Speaker 2: was not running for reelection.
Speaker 1: So he's the only one.
Speaker 12: Who I remember who have who have been, who have
Speaker 12: made a commitment and and and and actually followed through
Speaker 12: that commitment to serve only two terms.
Speaker 6: And I remember that that's just about when I got
Speaker 6: elected in my union, and I remember, if I could
Speaker 6: just tell you a quick story about that, because this
Speaker 6: is what's happened over the is my being a Democrat.
Speaker 6: My whole life, blue collar, my dad, factory worker, knew
Speaker 6: that the most important thing is to vote get involved
Speaker 6: with the government. And so I did that, and God
Speaker 6: bless him for giving me that advice. But yeah, back
Speaker 6: in the eighties, I remember my union president get up
Speaker 6: and saying, what the hell's the matter I'm hearing from
Speaker 6: a bunch of guys, you're going Republican, you know, with
Speaker 6: Reagan and the whole bit. And his best friend is
Speaker 6: best friend in the Union Hall stood up and said
Speaker 6: to him, Paul. He said, what you just said is wrong.
Speaker 6: We didn't leave. The Democratic Party is starting to leave us.
Speaker 6: And that was the start way back then and and
Speaker 6: it's gone that way. And if I could just give
Speaker 6: you one more points as the vice president and her
Speaker 6: being in the position season right now, I literally changed
Speaker 6: my political affiliation. The day after she was we had
Speaker 6: the Supreme Court u uh uh what was his name?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry? Uh? Tavanaugh and his wife, his wife and
Speaker 6: his children were sitting in the audience and Harris got on.
Speaker 6: She just wanted to get the cameras, you know how
Speaker 6: they are with the politicians and stuff. Oh God, she
Speaker 6: get it into being in college and having sex with somebody.
Speaker 6: And it was so disgusted in the questions that she
Speaker 6: asked him in front of his wife and his children.
Speaker 6: The next day, I went to Boston City Hall and
Speaker 6: I go there a lot. I was up to council
Speaker 6: meeting's all day today. That's why I missed the advertiser
Speaker 6: that they said it was on thirty eighth. But the
Speaker 6: next day I went to city Hall and I changed
Speaker 6: my affiliation. So maybe that.
Speaker 1: Was that was by the way, based on there was
Speaker 1: There was a woman I think her name was Christina Ford.
Speaker 1: She made the allegations, but she was not able to
Speaker 1: back them up in any way, shape or form. But
Speaker 1: the Democrats in that case basically accepted the allegations as
Speaker 1: truth in fact, which.
Speaker 6: Was so exact.
Speaker 1: I remembered very well. That was Brett Kavanaugh, Supreme Court
Speaker 1: Justice John Great, dear your voice, we'll talk so okay.
Speaker 6: Thanks yep, and I'll tell Rayfelin you said.
Speaker 1: Hello, please do okay, get my best and I'm guilty.
Speaker 6: I haven't called for a while, but this one gets
Speaker 6: my andrellin going. So thanks for listening to me.
Speaker 2: Back soon always welcome here. Let me go next to
Speaker 2: Tom is in Austin. Tom You're next on nights side.
Speaker 2: You got a chance to watch that debate today.
Speaker 8: What was your reaction, I did, Dan, thanks for taking
Speaker 8: my call. I just want to focus on the topic
Speaker 8: of immigration and the policy difference we saw in tonight's
Speaker 8: debate between John Beeden and Elizabeth Warren. The topic of immigration,
Speaker 8: it's personal for me. My wife immigrated legally to this
Speaker 8: country two years ago. She received her green card a
Speaker 8: year ago. She's now working as an English as a
Speaker 8: second language teacher at educating fellow immigrants on how to
Speaker 8: speak the English language so they can be productive members
Speaker 8: of our society. During tonight's debate, Elizabeth Warren stated several
Speaker 8: times that she supports a blanket pathway to citizenship for
Speaker 8: those who are in our country illegally. John Eaton mentioned
Speaker 8: how we have tens of thousands of illegal immigrants in
Speaker 8: this country who are convicted criminals, and those people need
Speaker 8: to be at the top of the list for deportation.
Speaker 8: We had an illegal migrant who raped the girl at
Speaker 8: the migrant hotel in Rockland. The migrants who are criminals,
Speaker 8: they need to be at the top of the list
Speaker 8: for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but by the way, I don't know that he's
Speaker 1: been convicted, he's been charged with that crime.
Speaker 7: I don't know he's been charged correct charged.
Speaker 8: With the crime. But any any convicted criminals who are
Speaker 8: who are here illegally, they gotta go in John Beaton,
Speaker 8: he said, next up on the list. But the deportation
Speaker 8: are those who are living off our tax dollars, living
Speaker 8: in hotels for free free phones, free meals, free cab rides.
Speaker 8: Dan Our state has spent over a billion dollars on
Speaker 8: this migrant crisis, and we're going to spend billions more
Speaker 8: if this continues to go on. Check Meanwhile, Moshouba Valley
Speaker 8: Carney hospitals have clothes. No help from Elizabeth Warren. It
Speaker 8: seems like she prefers given our billions to the migrants,
Speaker 8: will let multiple hospitals close in our state. Elizabeth Warren,
Speaker 8: she supports a broken immigration system. And I am voting
Speaker 8: for John Eaton because it's time for a change, all.
Speaker 2: Right, I got it well, said, strong, strongly presented. We've
Speaker 2: talked about that issue on this program now for years,
Speaker 2: and I just want to say that I stand at
Speaker 2: the head of the line in favor of legal immigration.
Speaker 2: I would not be here if my grandparents had not
Speaker 2: immigrated immigrated to this country legally, and I think It's
Speaker 2: an absolute insult to every legal immigrant and every person
Speaker 2: waiting around the world who's trying to come here legally.
Speaker 2: For us to wave people through and then basically immediately
Speaker 2: say it's time to make them all, you know, give
Speaker 2: them blanket citizenship.
Speaker 1: It's insane. It's insane.
Speaker 2: I don't understand how anyone can take that position. I
Speaker 2: believe I will give you a question, and I'll most
Speaker 2: people don't know the answer to this question. Do you
Speaker 2: know how many legal immigrants we naturalize in this country
Speaker 2: every year?
Speaker 1: Approximately?
Speaker 6: I do not know the answer, but I can tell you.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's less than a million. We're a country
Speaker 2: of three hundred and thirty million people. I think we
Speaker 2: can bubble or triple our legal immigration at the same
Speaker 2: time as telling the illegals here you got to go.
Speaker 2: If you want to get back in line with everyone else,
Speaker 2: come on back. But to put illegal immigrants who broke
Speaker 2: our laws to come across the border. And I've said
Speaker 2: this for years, but don't construme me as being anti immigrant.
Speaker 2: I am very pro immigrant. We need to know who's
Speaker 2: coming into this country and what skill set they bring
Speaker 2: to this country. I've said it before. We need doctors,
Speaker 2: and we need nurses, and we need medical professionals, and
Speaker 2: we don't need more lawyers. So if you're an if
Speaker 2: you were a legal immigrant coming here from Bangladesh or Pakistan,
Speaker 2: and you're a doctor, you have medical skills, or your nurse,
Speaker 2: you go to the headed lot you're a lawyer of
Speaker 2: trying to get in here from Ireland. Sorry, my friend,
Speaker 2: you got to go to the back of the line.
Speaker 2: We'll maybe get you in. But we're gonna, we're gonna,
Speaker 2: We're gonna know.
Speaker 1: Why, what people, what skill set they bring in the country,
Speaker 1: And we don't need a bunch of people to come
Speaker 1: into the country who are just gonna simply drain, you know,
Speaker 1: when drain our resources, our limited resources. I did a
Speaker 1: story last August.
Speaker 2: Do you know that there's a cab company on the
Speaker 2: Cape that've got a one a no big contract for
Speaker 2: six million dollars for cab rides.
Speaker 8: Unbelievable, unbelievable dollars. I agree with you one hundred percent, Dan,
Speaker 8: I support legal immigration. There's a lot of people who
Speaker 8: immigrate to this country who are productive members of our
Speaker 8: society and they add value, you know, they bring they
Speaker 8: bring knowledge, they bring skills, to the table. But you know,
Speaker 8: there needs to be a process where people can come
Speaker 8: in here in an orderly fashion, do some background checks,
Speaker 8: see who they are, and if everything checks out, let's
Speaker 8: welcome them with open arms.
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree with you more. Thank you so much. Tom,
Speaker 1: appreciate your call very much.
Speaker 8: Talk to you, Dan.
Speaker 1: All right, we get back. I got Audrey and Tom
Speaker 1: coming up. They'll be at the head of the line.
Speaker 2: I got a little bit of room for you at
Speaker 2: six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty six months,
Speaker 2: seven nine, three, one, ten thirty. I'm still looking for
Speaker 2: the first call of tonight. Who believes that Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 2: I carried the night. I don't think it was a
Speaker 2: blowout by any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 1: I think, you know John Deaton, people didn't know him,
Speaker 1: and I think that he he commended his himself very well.
Speaker 1: But you were more than welcome to tell me why
Speaker 1: you thought either of the candidates one six one, seven, two,
Speaker 1: five four to ten thirty six months, seven nine, three,
Speaker 1: one ten thirty. Will be right back on night Side.
Speaker 10: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 10: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: The next we go to Audrey and andover Audrey, appreciate
Speaker 2: you calling in you next on nightside.
Speaker 11: Oh Hi, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing just great.
Speaker 2: I know we've dropped off a couple of times, but
Speaker 2: I thank you for your persistence.
Speaker 1: Go right ahead.
Speaker 13: Oh I know, thank you for taking my call again.
Speaker 13: So I just I want to just go back to
Speaker 13: the migrant sang and kind.
Speaker 6: Of question you you know, sure here.
Speaker 13: Legally, Thanks for lot. However, I do feel as though
Speaker 13: perhaps the migrant laws should be relooked at. And if
Speaker 13: it's my understanding and correct me, but I had my
Speaker 13: own family come over and they had to sponsor another,
Speaker 13: and sponsor another and sponsor another, and I don't know
Speaker 13: when that changed. They couldn't come over and less a
Speaker 13: family amount it could be responsible for them financially.
Speaker 1: Is that a question or an observation?
Speaker 13: No, I think it's a fact.
Speaker 7: But wondering.
Speaker 1: So that's that's yeah, that's that would be an observation.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'm just trying to follow this.
Speaker 13: That's just my understanding. However, now I feel like, you know,
Speaker 13: there are great migrants that come here and they're taking
Speaker 13: advantage of you know, you know, paid blessed and all
Speaker 13: that However, instead of say okay, come on over, it's
Speaker 13: against the law the way we're lost stand. So for
Speaker 13: anyone to support that is not following the process.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, we we there are ways in
Speaker 2: which people who have persecuted in other countries can claim
Speaker 2: asylum or make a claim of asylum.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: And that asylum is only based upon when you feel
Speaker 2: that your life is in danger in another country, the
Speaker 2: fact that you live in a in a poor country
Speaker 2: and you're having a tough time making a good living.
Speaker 2: We don't recogniz in terms of asylum claims economic conditions.
Speaker 2: I mean, I suspect probably seventy five percent of the
Speaker 2: world have given the chance, would come here if we
Speaker 2: recognize that you do better economically in the US.
Speaker 1: But if we don't have borders, we don't have a
Speaker 1: country at that point. I mean, you look at a map.
Speaker 1: I remember when you were in.
Speaker 2: High school, you said, Okay, that's Germany, that's England.
Speaker 1: They have borders. We have borders. I don't see how.
Speaker 2: People can support the hordes of illegal migrants coming across,
Speaker 2: even though some of them are fine people. Don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, We have no idea who they are. We
Speaker 2: have no idea, what they're in. Their purpose is coming here.
Speaker 2: That's why you should have legal immigration. And I think
Speaker 2: we need more legal immigration.
Speaker 13: No, I honestly agree, only because you know, I mean,
Speaker 13: we're in the United States of America. And to think
Speaker 13: it's my sedule tax money is a single mother who
Speaker 13: work three jobs seeing schedule tax right is not so
Speaker 13: into kind of trying to that the people coming across
Speaker 13: the border and you know, holding them accountable and seeing
Speaker 13: if they're really in crisis and following the law, you know,
Speaker 13: and maybe changing some of the things they don't know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is there are ways in which people
Speaker 2: can legally claim asylum. They can go to different entrance
Speaker 2: points at all along the southern border and say I
Speaker 2: am here because I am in fear of my life.
Speaker 2: I live in Venezuela. And then you get you get
Speaker 2: a court hearing day the Trump administration had to stay
Speaker 2: in Mexico program. You sit there and you wait until
Speaker 2: you have a court hearing. Now people are allowed in
Speaker 2: and they're given court hearing seven or eight years from now,
Speaker 2: seven or eight years from now, you won't find.
Speaker 1: Those people, right.
Speaker 13: And you know, in Massachusetts, we're paying we're paying so
Speaker 13: much money for people that and people can't even afford
Speaker 13: their own bills, and they're paid.
Speaker 2: Billions of a billion dollars a year a bill.
Speaker 6: I get it.
Speaker 13: Say though, you know, I will vote, of course for
Speaker 13: Trump because really tired of this Biden administration and you know,
Speaker 13: the immediate need things. I have three children who want
Speaker 13: to build the American dream. And you know, despite their
Speaker 13: excellent education, et cetera, et cetera. You know, one of
Speaker 13: my sons actually said to me, you know, why bother like,
Speaker 13: why not just be happy in travel? I'm not going
Speaker 13: to be able to make it here, you know, which
Speaker 13: is sad.
Speaker 1: Right, I hear you.
Speaker 2: I do hear you, Audrey. I want to get one
Speaker 2: more caller in before the break. Thank you for calling.
Speaker 1: I have you called before this it's your first time calling.
Speaker 13: No, I've thought before.
Speaker 11: Thank you.
Speaker 13: I really am call more.
Speaker 1: Often, call more off and I enjoyed the conversation. Thanks Audrey,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Thanks by all right, goodnight.
Speaker 1: Let me get Tom.
Speaker 2: Tom get we'll get you in here before the eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock news.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Tom, Yeah, Dan, I'm going through an immigration
Speaker 3: process with a fiance and there is a form that's
Speaker 3: called one thirty four, and that is me showing that
Speaker 3: I have financial responsibility for her. And what has gone
Speaker 3: on with the Biden administration. These people here that we
Speaker 3: call illegal immigrants are basically people that have claimed asylum.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden made that clear as a candidate that they
Speaker 3: could let the caravans through in twenty nineteen, he said,
Speaker 3: as a candidate, and he would ask them to claim asylum.
Speaker 3: And Massachusetts has spent more than a one billion dollars
Speaker 3: out of a state budget for the migrants, and NIA
Speaker 3: is now.
Speaker 1: A billion dollars.
Speaker 2: We're well into our second year, so we're getting close
Speaker 2: to two billion dollars.
Speaker 1: It's a billion a.
Speaker 3: Year, right. But okay, so here's the point. Mara Healy
Speaker 3: last summer of twenty three said, if you have a
Speaker 3: spare bedroom, put up a migrant. In the town of Taunton, Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: There has been over one hundred and twenty families. I
Speaker 3: won't name the country, but they have been there since
Speaker 3: July of twenty twenty three. Okay, this is not positive
Speaker 3: for this country. And I have yet to hear one
Speaker 3: progressive make the argument of how this is good. We
Speaker 3: do not have a broken immigration system in this country.
Speaker 3: The problem we have is we have allowed too many
Speaker 3: people unlawfully to enter the United States. And I'm really
Speaker 3: sick and tired of hearing that narrative. And I if
Speaker 3: I go back forty years ago, I had a friend
Speaker 3: and a coworker from the country of Eritrea, a place
Speaker 3: I never knew of.
Speaker 1: And he Adopia Ethiopia.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, it's an east eastern Africa. But anyway, he
Speaker 3: asked me, could I sign for his sister to come
Speaker 3: over to America. And I told him, I go Mesmer.
Speaker 3: I have two hundred dollars in my savings account. I
Speaker 3: have no money, all right. So it used to be
Speaker 3: that way in this country. And somewhere along the line
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six when Reagan passed the amnesty bill
Speaker 3: for two to three million people in this country, the
Speaker 3: deal was back then and that we're going to secure
Speaker 3: the Mexican border. It never happened. And what really drives
Speaker 3: me up the wall as a labor union member is
Speaker 3: that labor unions for years fought increases in immigration to
Speaker 3: compete with their rank and file. And they were the
Speaker 3: ones that during the during during the Clinton years, they
Speaker 3: were the ones that pushed the Democrats to pass the
Speaker 3: everified bill. It has never happened, and I'm just really
Speaker 3: tired of it. And all right, talk you have.
Speaker 2: I only got fifteen seconds left before that train called
Speaker 2: the eleven o'clock News is coming at us.
Speaker 3: Take care, Dan, Bobbie, thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: All Right, we have to get out of the way
Speaker 2: for the eleven o'clock news, and we'll continue our conversation
Speaker 2: if you'd like to talk about tonight's debate that you
Speaker 2: heard here in large part on WBZ, or if you
Speaker 2: watch an institality on Channel thirty eight between Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 2: and John Deaton, love to know what you think, what
Speaker 2: you what's your reaction to it? Is six one seven
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