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Speaker 1: Oh well, I appreciate you taking time in your situation
Speaker 1: and travel and everything, so we'll try and keep it
Speaker 1: around an hour. I know you trying to rest up
Speaker 1: a bit, so again, I really appreciate you coming, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to what we're going to get into today.
Speaker 1: I've done plenty of shows about this, and it's something
Speaker 1: that I think is very important for many to understand,
Speaker 1: especially those that are in a very religious space that
Speaker 1: tend to be indoctrinated by the programs of Abrahamic religions.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into the origins of these and
Speaker 1: how they've been used for power and control since the
Speaker 1: dawning of these spiritual systems. So I'm very interested to hear.
Speaker 1: I know you've been doing some research and looking into
Speaker 1: this before we get into it, though it's been a
Speaker 1: little while since you've been on. Just remind me the
Speaker 1: audience a little bit about yourself and let them know
Speaker 1: where they can find your work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just going to say one more thing,
Speaker 2: and that's a disclaimer. If this show, because I have
Speaker 2: low energies, If this show isn't at part with what
Speaker 2: they usually get from you, it's all on me, Okay,
Speaker 2: blame me. So anyway, Yeah, my show is not too
Speaker 2: different from yours. It's kind of in the same ballpark
Speaker 2: at least it overlaps a little. But we, like you
Speaker 2: said before we went on, we cover a lot of
Speaker 2: different things and these days, yes, I'm looking into religions
Speaker 2: and stuff. Find it fascinating. I'm a history buff like you.
Speaker 2: But this part I haven't covered too much, so I
Speaker 2: don't know. It's always risky.
Speaker 4: You know, when COVID came.
Speaker 2: We lost some followers if we took a particular position,
Speaker 2: and they don't come back because people will never want
Speaker 2: to admit that they're wont same way that this Israel
Speaker 2: Palestine thing. If you actually say straight, I'll go against
Speaker 2: the mainstream, which is to celebrate the Nazis of today.
Speaker 2: Bump people counsel you, and they will definitely do it
Speaker 2: if they learn that both Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are
Speaker 2: all hijacked, are not similar to the origins. Well, hopefully
Speaker 2: my who's left to pagans.
Speaker 1: Well hopefully my audience is well aware of this. I've
Speaker 1: been discussing this for a very long time, and they
Speaker 1: know how I feel about organized religion. So I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure my audience would be on board with a lot
Speaker 1: of what you have to say. And even if they aren't,
Speaker 1: I think it's important we speak these truths, and those
Speaker 1: that are ready to hear it are going to gravitate
Speaker 1: towards it, and those that don't want to hear it,
Speaker 1: they're probably not ready anyway. So it's probably not for them,
Speaker 1: and that's the way I look at it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I so totally agree right on, So.
Speaker 1: Where should we start when looking at the history of
Speaker 1: the biggest power structure in the planet, the Abrahamic religions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they go back to Abraham, right, and they
Speaker 2: all share heroes up until I guess, up until Jesus,
Speaker 2: and then we lose the Jews, and then up to
Speaker 2: Muhammad we lose the.
Speaker 4: Christians.
Speaker 2: But interestingly enough, Islam was actually no let's let's let's
Speaker 2: go further back. So Judaism had degenerated big time already
Speaker 2: before Jesus time. And the Pharisees, who are the bad
Speaker 2: guys in the Bible, they are more or less the
Speaker 2: roots of today's Jews.
Speaker 4: But it decayed.
Speaker 2: Once more after the sacking of Jerusalem in year seventy.
Speaker 2: So there's been two huge destructions of Judaism, and every
Speaker 2: time what comes from the Ashes is further removed from
Speaker 2: what it once was. Now, interestingly enough, Jesus was not
Speaker 2: a Christian. Of course, most people who can think realize
Speaker 2: that the word Christian was coined. I think it's like
Speaker 2: two hundred after Christ. He was a Jew, but he
Speaker 2: wasn't any Jew. He was initiated into in fact, his
Speaker 2: bloodline as the disposine in the family of Jesus, both
Speaker 2: before and after. Because Jesus bloodline is known. There's actually
Speaker 2: four or I can I can read you the sources
Speaker 2: to his bloodline that exists.
Speaker 4: I'll get back to that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so he was on both sides. We have
Speaker 2: his genealogy and he goes back to prominent original Jews,
Speaker 2: both in terms of royalty and spirituality. So he and
Speaker 2: others because it wasn't a person cut in his time.
Speaker 4: He was a rabbi.
Speaker 2: His brother was actually of bigger prominence, at least after
Speaker 2: the crucifixion and probable exile. So they were running the
Speaker 2: a parallel Jewish movement that wanted to restore Judaism back
Speaker 2: to its originality. Now, if you go watch christ Conspiracy,
Speaker 2: you'll get some of that there. Their their focus is
Speaker 2: on animals rights and vegetarianism. They're coming at it from
Speaker 2: that angle. They're not so concerned about theology and history
Speaker 2: and philosophy, but enough that you will pick up. So
Speaker 2: I do recommend that they have They front some excellent
Speaker 2: scholars like James Tabor and the Dead Sea Scroll guy.
Speaker 4: I'm blanking on his name. I hope he forgives me.
Speaker 4: Still alive ninety over ninety years old.
Speaker 2: He wrote the books, the standard Books about James, the
Speaker 2: Just Brother of Jesus Eisenman, I think yeah. And there's
Speaker 2: also some decent like there's blogging. Theology is a good
Speaker 2: YouTube channel I recommend so you can find what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Isn't that obscure and unknown? Really, even though most people
Speaker 2: haven't been exposed to it. It's like, if you're a
Speaker 2: really good student of this type of history theology patristics,
Speaker 2: you kind of know much of what done are we
Speaker 2: going to talk about today? So it's not I'm not
Speaker 2: claiming exclusive knowledge or channeled revolutionary information, but I think
Speaker 2: we should highlight it because it's high time in these
Speaker 2: days we're living in now where truth is having a renaissance.
Speaker 2: Everything is being re examined. Everything is on the table
Speaker 2: except flat Earth. So why not also go there here
Speaker 2: and look? Any Christian listening has to ask themselves, Ah,
Speaker 2: if Jesus was not born of a virgin, if Jesus
Speaker 2: did not die on the cross, would that ruin your religion?
Speaker 2: If it does, your religion is a sham to begin
Speaker 2: with you're just following someone because of some miracle stuff.
Speaker 2: For me, I respect Jesus just as.
Speaker 4: Much, if not more.
Speaker 2: If those two things I just said, we're not true.
Speaker 2: If if if he's a human, which part of Christianity
Speaker 2: claims heart claims is, we will not even go into
Speaker 2: the trinity paradox because we won't have time. But let's
Speaker 2: say he's a human and God. Just to please those
Speaker 2: who believe he's some kind of a god, I mean,
Speaker 2: we are all having the God spark in us anyway,
Speaker 2: So but you should you should be into Jesus because
Speaker 2: of what he represents and yeah, stuff like that. So anyway,
Speaker 2: so he wanted to restore and this these scenes were
Speaker 2: a part of this. They were called nazarenes. They had
Speaker 2: just like the templars had a huge organization with many departments.
Speaker 2: You had military templars of course, you had banking templars.
Speaker 2: You had templars who were farmers, you had templars who
Speaker 2: were philosophers or in spiritual.
Speaker 4: Same with these.
Speaker 2: So nasarenes were another word for or another section of
Speaker 2: this Jewish branch that Jesus belonged to.
Speaker 4: And so when.
Speaker 2: He's called Jesus, he's actually called Jesus the Nasarene. Okay,
Speaker 2: not Jesus from Nasaret. That's a bullshit translation. Don't take
Speaker 2: my word for anything. Look into it. Nasaret didn't exist
Speaker 2: until two hundred years after Christ. And at any rate,
Speaker 2: he was born in Bethlehem, wasn't it, which is far
Speaker 2: from Nasaret. So he's Jesus the Nazarene, which means that
Speaker 2: he's initiated into the Nazarene order. Now it's the different names.
Speaker 2: There's the Abbionites, which they were called often referred to
Speaker 2: after that, they seems the Nasarenes. It's all more or
Speaker 2: less the same stream. And they represented the true spirit
Speaker 2: of Judaism, and they wanted to get rid of the corruption.
Speaker 4: The animals, slaughter.
Speaker 2: There's been fakery in Judaic religion, like, for example, they
Speaker 2: put in sacrifice sacrifices. They were originated against it. Jesus
Speaker 2: was obviously against it because he belonged to this original
Speaker 2: So I'm really doing a long, huge, complex story, very
Speaker 2: very short here. It's like you're reading what the movie
Speaker 2: is about. That's what you Otherwise we will go on
Speaker 2: for two hundred hours, right, So that's what we're doing here,
Speaker 2: and almost done with my runt. So interestingly, we could
Speaker 2: discuss whether Jesus survived the crucifixion or not. It's not
Speaker 2: an important Let's say he died from the crucifixion. It
Speaker 2: doesn't change much because what happened was that the religion
Speaker 2: or the I don't even know I a should call
Speaker 2: it religion, the movement, the thing he started, got crushed,
Speaker 2: hijacked and crushed by the Christians, and what we call
Speaker 2: Christianity today should be called poor list.
Speaker 4: It's nothing to do with what they were like.
Speaker 2: The first church after Christ either died or exiled, was
Speaker 2: headed by his brother James Yorkov, James the Just, who
Speaker 2: said that if you just changed one law, you changed
Speaker 2: them all.
Speaker 4: So he was.
Speaker 2: They were very they were hardcore, almost fundamentalist, and or
Speaker 2: I should have very devoted, very principled, very real. For
Speaker 2: then this was it wasn't power games, et cetera, like
Speaker 2: the Pharisees and stuff. But even though the Pharisees and
Speaker 2: the corrupt, the degenerate version of Judaism was the biggest problem.
Speaker 4: Up to.
Speaker 2: Jesus death and sometimes after. Who really within the final
Speaker 2: hill of of the real original Christianity was Paulism Paul.
Speaker 4: Or Saul.
Speaker 2: He was a who are Roman you who were hunting
Speaker 2: Christians for as his It's a mercenary right as his job.
Speaker 2: And I've olver said, look, if you want to eradicate Christianity,
Speaker 2: what's more effective hill one in one person that you're
Speaker 2: never going to cover your entire life, how much impact
Speaker 2: will you.
Speaker 4: Do or.
Speaker 2: Screw up the whole movement? Just hijiacted take it over. So,
Speaker 2: whether he intended that or not, that's what he did.
Speaker 2: The original Christians, the Church in Jerusalem, etc. Referred to
Speaker 2: him as all the liar, so also called him the Satan.
Speaker 2: He himself did try to kill James, and he was
Speaker 2: He was a follower for a little while. Remember he
Speaker 2: never met Jesus, and it seems that he was an
Speaker 2: enemy of several of the disciples. He needed to undermine
Speaker 2: whoever was around with authority, the real disciples and apostles
Speaker 2: and the first Church and the Disposini, which was the
Speaker 2: family of Jesus was a big family. Now, of course
Speaker 2: here we could introduce that element that people just can't handle,
Speaker 2: that Jesus may have a children, but we don't even
Speaker 2: need that for the Disposini is the extended family even
Speaker 2: so brothers, sisters, uncles, etc. So now, okay, we can
Speaker 2: swim in on anything I've been mentioning, but I want
Speaker 2: to include in Sloan before before I. So it seems
Speaker 2: that already in a year one hundred, the Polism religion,
Speaker 2: which actually is a pagan religion. Paul is the one
Speaker 2: who introduced the virgin birth. He introduced the Trinity, not
Speaker 2: actually but the source for it. He introduced the Crucifixion
Speaker 2: and the ascension to heaven. And all these elements are
Speaker 2: not new, they are taken from pagan religions. Okay, So
Speaker 2: he was just using what's already out there in many religions,
Speaker 2: putting it in and or if you don't believe that,
Speaker 2: then it's the biggest miracle of all is that all
Speaker 2: these aspects of Jesus that are so paranormal are identical
Speaker 2: to earlier.
Speaker 4: Avatars.
Speaker 2: So, but he was charged to spread Christianity among the gentiles,
Speaker 2: and it's a non starter if you had to be
Speaker 2: Jewish to become a Christian. So he wanted to get
Speaker 2: rid of this. He wanted to get rid of the
Speaker 2: whole strict Judaism. In fact, he wasn't even a traditional
Speaker 2: Jews actually not traditional because Jesus and James Judaism is
Speaker 2: a real traditional one. But he wasn't even a mainstream Jew,
Speaker 2: so he put in pagan elements like this. You know
Speaker 2: how Christianity is super syncretistic.
Speaker 4: There's so much.
Speaker 2: Philosophical, spiritual, historical that's shared with other religions back then, Methraism, anything,
Speaker 2: and so he is behind that. And I would say
Speaker 2: there's three people who's behind modern Christianity. Who designed it?
Speaker 2: It was first Paul, then Constantine, and then Erineus the
Speaker 2: church Father. Those three should be credited with this creation
Speaker 2: of what has become Christianity since then. Now, one more
Speaker 2: thing was the Islam, so shock or above all shook.
Speaker 2: Islam started out as because as they crushed in three
Speaker 2: one was Nikael. There was two church meetings, the last
Speaker 2: one three twenty five, I think in three ninety five.
Speaker 2: By then it was over. By year four hundred, they
Speaker 2: started hunting down real Christians and also deviations of Gnostics,
Speaker 2: everything like Nestorianism, all sorts of There were so many
Speaker 2: Christian directions and the one we know today wasn't the
Speaker 2: biggest one, but it was the one that was backed
Speaker 2: by the power and so after the last church meeting
Speaker 2: that's on Constantine. So after who wasn't a Christian? I
Speaker 2: think it was Methrus, yes.
Speaker 4: From us.
Speaker 2: So after the last church meeting, not the last, but
Speaker 2: the one in three ninety five, the lost of those two,
Speaker 2: it was really over. There were pockets of Ebionites and
Speaker 2: other original groups that survived. And one of them, and
Speaker 2: many of them became as they became persecuted, would you
Speaker 2: tend to become extremist fanatic? And one of them was
Speaker 2: led by Muhammad. Now he's not like a true representative
Speaker 2: of original Christianity because he himself he pulled a poll right,
Speaker 2: he went into a cave and he met Gabriel, And
Speaker 2: now I'm renewing stuff. Fine, I mean, no religion is
Speaker 2: static anyway. All religions always are in development and evolution.
Speaker 2: So I guess it comes with a territory. But so
Speaker 2: he had his own spin on it. Now, interestingly, his
Speaker 2: nephew Ali which means light, was his close confidant and
Speaker 2: was writing down everything he said and stuff. And then
Speaker 2: there was this other dude. I forgot, I'm not an
Speaker 2: ext built on Islam and Muslims listening in people with
Speaker 2: Muslim background. I'm gonna mockingly look down upon my ignorance here,
Speaker 2: but they all know who I'm referring to, the uncle
Speaker 2: or something. He was a military man. So after Muhammad died,
Speaker 2: he had completed the Koran, but he wasn't issue published
Speaker 2: or released among the people yet. Ali was charged with
Speaker 2: that task. But unfortunately this is the military branch of
Speaker 2: his because you know, when you're they were a war,
Speaker 2: they had to war to survive, et cetera. So they
Speaker 2: took over and they threw out, They cast out Ali,
Speaker 2: who was supposed to be the who was the assigned successor.
Speaker 4: Ali is the.
Speaker 2: Is the origin to the Islamic You know, Islam has
Speaker 2: as many versions as Christianity and the Judaism too. It's
Speaker 2: not like one thing and then a few small rebels. No,
Speaker 2: they've all been very complex. But in Islam Shia today
Speaker 2: it's two big ones, three if you want to include soufish.
Speaker 4: But there's more than that.
Speaker 2: I'm just doing the simple newspaper headline version. And so
Speaker 2: Shia is from Ali, and Shia is the persecuted one.
Speaker 2: Today everyone is ganging up with Sonny to crush Shia,
Speaker 2: even though all terrorism comes from Sonny, all mysticism comes
Speaker 2: from Shia, not all, but most. So it's very interesting.
Speaker 2: It's like we are ganging up with Paul to crush Jesus,
Speaker 2: you understand, or James Sonny.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that there was a much earlier form of
Speaker 1: Judaism which wasn't corrupted, and a lot of Christianity stems
Speaker 1: from these pagan beliefs. Would you say that a lot
Speaker 1: of the Abrahamic religions is just bits and pieces of
Speaker 1: these earlier Judaic and pagan practices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I'll chew on that while
Speaker 2: I just complete the Muslim thing. I just want to
Speaker 2: say about this uncle that they took the Quran after
Speaker 2: they threw out Ali, and they made revisions to it
Speaker 2: and then they published it. That's why I think Islam
Speaker 2: today is so easy to be manipulated as a warring
Speaker 2: religion because the warring faction took over and God knows
Speaker 2: what kind of alterations they did.
Speaker 4: The conspiracy people.
Speaker 2: Think that in the original Quran it was the same
Speaker 2: as it don't eat meat and certainly don't slaughter animals,
Speaker 2: sacrifice them religiously, same with Christianity, same with Judaism. But
Speaker 2: these powers takes over these warring, murdering powers that are
Speaker 2: so strong in our world today. Trump says, I'm gonna doge.
Speaker 2: We're going to cut spending, We're going to save the economy,
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah and oh panthagon missing trillions upon
Speaker 2: trillions upon trillions, Catherine Fitz the latest number, I think
Speaker 2: it's is it twenty two trillion or fifty for obviously
Speaker 2: used for? But then what do they do? They increase
Speaker 2: the military budget to one trillion, so the warring powers,
Speaker 2: and I think it's because they get.
Speaker 4: They get.
Speaker 2: I think it's connected to the classified space program. They
Speaker 2: come in and look, this is what's going on. You
Speaker 2: want to screw with this. There's a paradigm that we
Speaker 2: don't have access to. We're getting access to all the conspiracies,
Speaker 2: all the corruption, and all the things that used to
Speaker 2: be lunatic. That's coming out in the mainstream now. But
Speaker 2: you think people really think, Okay, it's over. Everything is
Speaker 2: there's no more secrets. No, No, it's a new level.
Speaker 2: It's another level to what's going on. These are old
Speaker 2: JFK even nine to eleven. This is yesterday's news.
Speaker 4: It served its purpose.
Speaker 2: Even COVID which actually I don't think they wanted COVID
Speaker 2: to get out so early. Anyway, I'm talking myself away.
Speaker 2: You asked about pagan influences. I think the pagan influences
Speaker 2: are indirect. First of all, there were Buddhist missionaries in
Speaker 2: the Holy Land, just as there were Juice all the
Speaker 2: way into Asia. In fact, in Kashmir there was a
Speaker 2: Christian state much looks like as if it was actually
Speaker 2: run by Jesus himself after the crucifixion. If not Jesus
Speaker 2: then his clone. It's a huge topic. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you have time to go into that, but je
Speaker 2: Jew's been everywhere, everywhere, and at any rate there was
Speaker 2: I think that on Christian Yeah, there are pagan influences,
Speaker 2: just by the virtue of Paul designing a new religion
Speaker 2: based upon some crumbs of Christianity but removing everything you did,
Speaker 2: and also anything that he didn't like and couldn't use.
Speaker 2: So he needed to sell this to the Romance. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll say two good things about Paul. He was a
Speaker 2: brilliant marketer. He really knew his business about spreading these things.
Speaker 2: So he designed an entirely new religion based upon this
Speaker 2: one and it worked very well. And the other only
Speaker 2: good thing I could say about him is that thanks
Speaker 2: to Paul, you can become a Christian without having to Yeah,
Speaker 2: although you Americans do it anyway. I don't know why,
Speaker 2: but see Muslims have kept that because they come from
Speaker 2: the original Judaic Christian stream. So but not the poor
Speaker 2: and yeah, so anybody could have access. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: you couldn't become a Christian if under Jesus and James,
Speaker 2: but you had to.
Speaker 4: Accept the Torah.
Speaker 2: You had to be a proper Jew, original Jew which
Speaker 2: was much more spiritual. There was reincarnation, there was vegetarism,
Speaker 2: but I would say a big influence on Christianity, even
Speaker 2: Jesus before Paul, the real Christianity was the Pythagoreans, reincarnation
Speaker 2: dressed in white linen, concerned with healing, just like the terraputer,
Speaker 2: a Jewish sect, a brand buch of the scenes in operating,
Speaker 2: especially in Egypt. I think that's where Jesus picked that up.
Speaker 2: But they were a branch of these scenes, and they
Speaker 2: were a direct descendant of the Pathagoreans. So there was
Speaker 2: like a Jewish Pategorian version. Long hair love animals don't
Speaker 2: eat meat.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So these things are not just Buddhistic, they're also Pathagoreans.
Speaker 2: So I don't agree with those who think it's a
Speaker 2: Buddhist influence on. I mean, there may have been influenced,
Speaker 2: as people are mat and things that are exchanging. No
Speaker 2: religion and static all developed. But as for the actual
Speaker 2: original influence, I think it comes from the Parthagorean that
Speaker 2: you may call pagan, and maybe that's what the early
Speaker 2: church fathers all loved plot in plate on Pathagoras, all
Speaker 2: these guys anyway, So and on Judaism, you know, Judaism
Speaker 2: comes from Egypt, really and maybe an offshoot a rebellious
Speaker 2: Many people think is it oknoton they think we're Moses.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's complex stuff. Time machine, I guess
Speaker 2: we should send a drome back and find out. And
Speaker 2: it was thanks to we have the technology, right, sorry,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Constantine that the doctrine was changed from belief
Speaker 1: in reincarnation to damnation in hell. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: I don't think that was Constantine, but it's thanks to
Speaker 2: Constantine that it became a state religion and that they
Speaker 2: get that the Poling religion got so much power that
Speaker 2: could start persecuting and this horrific, outrageous notion about purging,
Speaker 2: like we need one, you know, Bible, the Bible.
Speaker 4: When was that invented?
Speaker 2: I forgot already. The Bible was collected very late, like
Speaker 2: let's just say by four hundred it was over so,
Speaker 2: but then they had a Bible. But even in the Bible,
Speaker 2: there's so much traces of the original stuff they didn't
Speaker 2: get to get out, for example, the confirmation of reincarnation.
Speaker 2: And there's so much there that, which is why Christianity
Speaker 2: can still work. Polism can still work somewhat in the
Speaker 2: line of the original Jesus, even though they banished. You know,
Speaker 2: so we have four canonic right, Mark is the oldest
Speaker 2: and probably the only one you should regard. You have
Speaker 2: to disregard the end of Mark because Mark originally has
Speaker 2: nothing about the Crucifixion and the ascension that's taken. Mainstream
Speaker 2: theologians agree that it's a mesh of Luke and Matthew,
Speaker 2: which is put into Mark so that it shall conform
Speaker 2: with the two orders. Luke and match you a copycats,
Speaker 2: although they're also using other sources. Luke has some sources
Speaker 2: that Matchew doesn't have and Mark doesn't have, and Match
Speaker 2: you have some that Luke and Mark doesn't have, and
Speaker 2: it's called c but it's different cues really so and
Speaker 2: we don't know how original those were, but we know
Speaker 2: Mark is pretty old. It's I think it's like seventy
Speaker 2: around seventy after Christ, so there were still it was
Speaker 2: even the original church was around, so it couldn't be
Speaker 2: too outrageous Mark, which is why Mark is very sober,
Speaker 2: very down to earth. Really, just describe some basic stuff
Speaker 2: John is taking. John is the newest, the most recents,
Speaker 2: and it's just a fantasy. It's just someone's notion of
Speaker 2: I mean, Johnny's cool, it's interesting. It's a mystical scripture really,
Speaker 2: But Luke and Match you are really it had taken
Speaker 2: off by that. But what about the Ghospel of Thomas
Speaker 2: or or Marry you know Thomas starts with these are
Speaker 2: the secret words that Jesus told Thomas already there you see,
Speaker 2: there's a kind of a mystery school thing going on.
Speaker 2: Like everybody back then where our mystery society. It's not
Speaker 2: people have a very poor understanding of that. They think
Speaker 2: is like a conspiracy in power thing and nothing to do.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're time to talk about that.
Speaker 2: But what about Mary Gospel of Mary where it's clear
Speaker 2: that she was privy to information that others meant because
Speaker 2: Peter Berats tell us, tell us what the Master told
Speaker 2: you that we were not could not access.
Speaker 4: What about the Gospel of.
Speaker 2: Is it Philip where he reveals that Mary and Jesus
Speaker 2: were hissing each other on the mouth. Yeah, so there's
Speaker 2: so much that sense. So there's so many. What about
Speaker 2: the Gospel of Judas that says that Judas didn't want
Speaker 2: to do it, but he was charged by Jesus, so
Speaker 2: he became the prototype, the eternal scapegoat, the patsy. He
Speaker 2: had to take that role that he had. There's so much. Look,
Speaker 2: oh my god, how many hours do we have? So
Speaker 2: we're scratching the surface. I'm sure traditional Christians are crossing
Speaker 2: themselves and I'm satan man, but I'm just telling you
Speaker 2: what's out there. I didn't invent any of this, and
Speaker 2: I'm even just scratching the surface. If you ever dare
Speaker 2: looking under the hood, if you ever dare starting questioning,
Speaker 2: look look at it a science fiction, then look at this.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting keep your religion, keep your beliefs. I'm
Speaker 2: the last one I want to take that away from you,
Speaker 2: because if it works, go with it. Okay, whatever you believe, Muslims, Christians, Jews,
Speaker 2: But when it comes to the historicity of these things,
Speaker 2: you should and if you care about truth, you should
Speaker 2: look into these things. And God is so interesting. I
Speaker 2: haven't even dropped the biggest bombs, but some bombs I
Speaker 2: won't drop here.
Speaker 1: It's going to be like, Oh, this is great, man.
Speaker 1: I love it. And I think that it's very important
Speaker 1: for us to hear about the history and shed a
Speaker 1: lot of the dogma that keeps us in these boxes
Speaker 1: and prevents us from gaining understanding of these things. But
Speaker 1: I consider myself to be a follower of the teachings
Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ. Those things seem to be the answer
Speaker 1: to the exit of the matrix. Whether you believe he
Speaker 1: is a real person, whether you believe the truth about
Speaker 1: the stories or not. The teachings are pretty solid and
Speaker 1: if you follow that, in my perspective, you're going to
Speaker 1: be all right. But I'd love to hear more about
Speaker 1: the real history of Jesus, the bloodline and some of
Speaker 1: the things that you found out about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can read an interesting thing about what
Speaker 2: if you know about Jesus the genealogy.
Speaker 4: But I want to.
Speaker 2: Say first that I agree with you. You can use it
Speaker 2: as an exit point from the matrix, but it's obviously
Speaker 2: not the only one, because that means that everybody who
Speaker 2: lived before Jesus were trapped forever, and it means that
Speaker 2: everybody who never hears about Jesus is going to be
Speaker 2: trapped forever. And it means that when we suicide as
Speaker 2: a civilization and we become the legendary Atlantis and something
Speaker 2: else rises, they are screwed.
Speaker 4: No, you can use any In.
Speaker 2: Fact, you know the parable about the false master and
Speaker 2: a real disciple.
Speaker 4: It's basic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, long story short. Cornman had a very naive,
Speaker 2: dedicated disciple told him that if you throw yourself out
Speaker 2: from this cliff, you can fly. He did it and flew.
Speaker 2: Cornman looked in shock, did the same, heell down, died.
Speaker 2: So this is how it works if you are a
Speaker 2: sincere truth seeker. There's so many keys you can use.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just about being stuck and getting out.
Speaker 2: Cosmos is more complex. So depending on what you're doing,
Speaker 2: what you're seeking. You can liberate yourself on different levels,
Speaker 2: to different degrees. I don't think it's done in one
Speaker 2: lifetime anyway, but you can get closer, and who knows
Speaker 2: if you can reinconnate.
Speaker 4: Maybe you won't even reconnect here. But at the bottom.
Speaker 2: Line is that, yes, you can use many things as
Speaker 2: a exit, but it has to be love and wisdom,
Speaker 2: which is the two legs.
Speaker 4: You're walking on.
Speaker 2: Truth maybe being the compast down. So yeah, and totally
Speaker 2: you can use polarism for that. So you want to
Speaker 2: know the general ology. So there are basically four. There
Speaker 2: is a very interesting story about the disposcene.
Speaker 4: Coming to.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll just read from a book here. The major
Speaker 2: documents are as follows the Arbdious document from circa one
Speaker 2: seventy eighty. The volumes written in Aramaic include many accurate
Speaker 2: details of the genealogy of Jesus. The Roman Church merely
Speaker 2: re wrote the document, eliminating some of the more embarrassing details.
Speaker 2: The edited work written in Latin is called.
Speaker 4: The pseudo Obdius.
Speaker 2: There are ten volumes called Historia Certaminis Apostolica. The original
Speaker 2: was written by our fourth generation descendant of Jesus and
Speaker 2: mariamideal and the lydia Abdius was the bishop of Barbylon
Speaker 2: around one fifty eighty. A set of these ten volumes,
Speaker 2: the writing of Obduous in Latin, found in the Norris
Speaker 2: collection at Dickinson College, was used by Professor Hugh Montgomery
Speaker 2: in his research.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 2: The Despussini Journalist Genealogy eighteen eighty. This is the document
Speaker 2: written in Latin, presented by the Dispossini bishops to Sylvester,
Speaker 2: Bishop of Rome in three eighteen eighty, A series of
Speaker 2: complete genealogical charts dating from the time of Jesus. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you that story when the Disposini came to Sylvester.
Speaker 2: Later stored in the high security section of the Vatican
Speaker 2: Secret Archives, photographs were taken of this document, thereby confirming
Speaker 2: the structure of the true genealogy of Jesus and his family.
Speaker 4: Then you have three the.
Speaker 2: Nazarene Scrolls Circles sixty five eighty. In the nineteen sixties,
Speaker 2: a Delsy score that provided extensive details of the geneology
Speaker 2: of Jesus, written in Aramaic, was given to Tom Gibson
Speaker 2: Morrison to translate into English. A translation was shown to
Speaker 2: church authorities, who promptly altered the project. They allegedly purchased
Speaker 2: the scroll for over one million dollars, which was a
Speaker 2: lot of money back in the sixties. The genealogical charts
Speaker 2: of this scroll and approximately seventy a d and then
Speaker 2: you have the templar boxes. This is the big reason
Speaker 2: why the templars were SmackDown on why they dissented to
Speaker 2: begin with. Although I think they were founded with this
Speaker 2: in mind, I don't think they ever were truly loyal
Speaker 2: to the Vatican. But they wanted to sack the basement
Speaker 2: of Solomon's Temple and get their hands on what they
Speaker 2: could get their hands on. And this is one of
Speaker 2: the big things, notwithstanding the arc and the grail and
Speaker 2: all that stuff and Minora. Before the persecution of the
Speaker 2: Knights Templars in thirteen or seven, the templar leader Jack
Speaker 2: de Moley prepared forty templar boxes, each containing factual details
Speaker 2: on the family.
Speaker 4: Life of Jesus.
Speaker 2: Two of these boxes were distributed to each of the
Speaker 2: twenty senior Disposhini families. And we're talking about south of
Speaker 2: France where Mary.
Speaker 4: Magdalen. I think it was.
Speaker 2: Came very early, and qatars or albigenses are related to
Speaker 2: these those areas, and there a SmackDown and the cartars
Speaker 2: seems to actually follow our version of our version of Christianity,
Speaker 2: which is true to Christ. Oh, yes, one of these boxes. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So all of the notice sources present and accurate history
Speaker 2: of Users and his family in the West about two
Speaker 2: thousand years ago. And these are the documents that the
Speaker 2: Roman Church did not succeed in concealing with this. And
Speaker 2: here's an important point, given that they all confirm each other,
Speaker 2: it is ridiculous to even alleged forgery or later editorial
Speaker 2: additions to any particular document. If it was just one, fine,
Speaker 2: you could dismiss it as something like that. But they
Speaker 2: all say the say they come from different places, different times.
Speaker 2: So all so the case is closed. Now, yeah, you
Speaker 2: wanna you want to comment before I ran, No.
Speaker 1: Go for it, because I have a couple of questions
Speaker 1: after you're done with this.
Speaker 2: Damn, I wanted to buy some to find the proper
Speaker 2: but okay. Three eighty. The direct family of Jesus, the Disposini,
Speaker 2: are sommoned to the lat Latterian late Lateran Palace.
Speaker 4: Later on Palace.
Speaker 2: I don't have to pronounce this in the Vatican to
Speaker 2: remove their hereditary bishopries. The meeting had been arranged by
Speaker 2: Bishop Sylvester at the behest of Emperor Constantine representative. So
Speaker 2: the six major family lines were in attendance, resplendent in
Speaker 2: the shining white robes, sandals, long hair and birds, just
Speaker 2: like the merror of Indians, Kings of France, just like
Speaker 2: the Pythagoreans, just like the scenes. This is a trademark.
Speaker 2: They had come to Rome to demand recognition for the
Speaker 2: authentic ideology of Jesus, wanting leadership roles in the Christian
Speaker 2: Movement Poland movement. They also wanted to move the center
Speaker 2: of Christianity from Rome to Jerusalem. It's all about power man.
Speaker 2: They brought with them. I mean, they had all rights,
Speaker 2: but you know, they're not in the business of truth.
Speaker 2: If they were in the business of truth, just finding
Speaker 2: the Nagamar discrolls and the Dead Sea scrolls. If anyone
Speaker 2: in the Vatican was since here, they would be like,
Speaker 2: oh my God, great, we're learning more. So much is
Speaker 2: lost above the guy be worshiping the founder or religion.
Speaker 2: Let's let's be loyal adherers. To know what's the reaction.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, let's burn this, let's hide this, let's
Speaker 2: kill people, let's bribe people. So that tells you all
Speaker 2: you need to know. And by the way, these things
Speaker 2: doesn't need to be found because it's all ready in
Speaker 2: the Vatican library. They always took one copy for themselves
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 4: Destroyed the rest.
Speaker 2: Didn't take the copies to make them survive.
Speaker 4: Took the copies because.
Speaker 2: If you know what's going on, you need to know
Speaker 2: your enemy. You need to know what's out there. You
Speaker 2: need to know the truth so that you can maintain
Speaker 2: the lie. Otherwise God knows what will happen later and
Speaker 2: they can be led astray themselves. So they've always had anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm ranting myself away.
Speaker 4: Let's go back to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, wanting to back to Jerusalem, where aims to
Speaker 2: just church had been they brought with them, So I
Speaker 2: forgot to say. It was in the year seventy after
Speaker 2: Christ that the final that's when they crushed the real
Speaker 2: Church of Jesus. That's I mean, it survived up until
Speaker 2: year four hundred, that's when it was finally over. I mean,
Speaker 2: from seventy to four hundred there were surviving pockets like
Speaker 2: the Disposine right, But the sacking of Jerusalem in seventy
Speaker 2: really crushed any real fragment of Judaism and Christianity, so.
Speaker 4: It was a new order after that.
Speaker 2: So the Disposine brought with them the genealogical charge to
Speaker 2: show them that they were the true descendants of Jesus.
Speaker 2: Vicious to Levester, who was not impressed, allegedly told them
Speaker 2: that Jesus had preached the wrong religion and show them
Speaker 2: to the door. Why not, he's polite, holine, he's not
Speaker 2: a Jesus follower. That should have been the end of
Speaker 2: the story, had it not been for one minute to
Speaker 2: detail and assistant took the genealogical charts and placed them
Speaker 2: in the Vatican Library, a perfectly natural thing.
Speaker 4: To do at the time.
Speaker 2: Let Us now jump forward seventeen hundred years to twenty ten,
Speaker 2: when a researcher, after years of investigation searching in the
Speaker 2: secret archives of the Vatican Library, locates these genealogical charts
Speaker 2: by mistake. By the way during the three hour launch breaks,
Speaker 2: he finds that he has entered the very secret section
Speaker 2: of the libraries. Somehow, he also manages to avoid detection
Speaker 2: by the security cameras. At the first suitable moment he
Speaker 2: takes he was allowed to go there, but not to
Speaker 2: dig where he now does. At the first suitable moment,
Speaker 2: he takes digital pictures of the charts, leaving when the
Speaker 2: work is complete. This researcher brought the genealogical information. This
Speaker 2: is just one of the four sources I read. The
Speaker 2: one that was from the Vatican brought the genealogical information
Speaker 2: to his associates in England and through a mutual researcher
Speaker 2: translation segment about the life of Jesus. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: won't go on there. There is more about the meeting
Speaker 2: between the disposni.
Speaker 1: And you said something earlier that I'd love to hear
Speaker 1: more about the possibility that Jesus wasn't crucified. He may
Speaker 1: have either faked his death or there was some sort
Speaker 1: of clone of him or double of himself.
Speaker 2: So you know what Jesus is called in the Middle East?
Speaker 4: What's that?
Speaker 2: It's called Isa And actually you could discuss if it's
Speaker 2: a title or a name, because it means Jesus Christ
Speaker 2: means the salv solud.
Speaker 4: What's an anointed one?
Speaker 2: And it is not The shows Jesus. I'm having a
Speaker 2: blank on but it both means something. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I have low energy.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But people can look up all these things. It's not
Speaker 2: my job here to give you the details and educate you.
Speaker 2: My job is to just let those who doesn't know
Speaker 2: about this that it exists, and if you're interested, go
Speaker 2: and find out. Verify everything I say. Don't take anything
Speaker 2: just by my word. If you do, you're not following
Speaker 2: the prescribes of truth. So verify for yourself. Of course,
Speaker 2: the problem is where to look and how to do
Speaker 2: source criticism, and blah blah blah. I can't take responsibility
Speaker 2: for all that, but my shows are one way to
Speaker 2: I have one experts and maybe you will become a
Speaker 2: little closer.
Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is that.
Speaker 2: We have so Mythicists are those fools who think that
Speaker 2: Jesus never existed, and very popular among atheists, of course
Speaker 2: for ideological reasons. But the fact of the matter is
Speaker 2: we have so many sources about Jesus, not just of course,
Speaker 2: we have the canonical stuff, right, and then we have the.
Speaker 4: Apple griefs, so the big graphs.
Speaker 2: But even if you look outside of the Christian and
Speaker 2: Poland religions. We have tons of info about Jesus. We
Speaker 2: have many secular sources a Pliny, Josephus, many others we have.
Speaker 2: So we have Roman.
Speaker 4: Sources stuff like that. We have.
Speaker 2: Jewish sources about Jesus. And one of my favorites is
Speaker 2: one of the Infancy Gospels, which tell us about how
Speaker 2: I forgot how oll he was. You know, there's nothing
Speaker 2: about him from twelve to.
Speaker 4: Thirty, but this is.
Speaker 2: But this is this here he was younger, so this
Speaker 2: is a part. It didn't make it to the Bible.
Speaker 2: So he had this ability. He could do miracles even then.
Speaker 2: And there was this kid. He did something with his kid,
Speaker 2: and he made him limb or something. Of course, Jesus
Speaker 2: had allegedly strong powers. Couldn't control them. What a child,
Speaker 2: we can forgive him.
Speaker 4: So he gave him the evil.
Speaker 2: Eye, a bully or something, and I forgot the details.
Speaker 4: But he hurt and know that did with his powers.
Speaker 2: Who marry and Joseph trying to cover up you know
Speaker 2: the condition of their song, right, don't do this, pew phew.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, so we have Sanskrit sources, We have
Speaker 2: Tibetan sources, Arabic sources, Persian sources, Urdu sources, Buddhist sources.
Speaker 2: There's a very good gospel called is the Prophet or
Speaker 2: something from Tibet?
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 2: From is it that monastery that everybody in in martial arts?
Speaker 2: Is it a Shaolin monks? Actually one very famous monastery
Speaker 2: that this leaked out from. So we have a lot
Speaker 2: of info, but it seems that one, you know, the
Speaker 2: Muslim insists that he survived the crucifixion. They're not the
Speaker 2: only one to do that. There were there were many
Speaker 2: Christian streams that they are saying. I don't know if
Speaker 2: any of the contemporary do, but originally.
Speaker 4: And there's also.
Speaker 2: There's also even evidence for it, like circumstantial evidence even
Speaker 2: in the Canonic but you have to listen to theologians
Speaker 2: discuss it, etc. So let's say he did survive, because look, man,
Speaker 2: what kind of ghost goes around with the whole in
Speaker 2: their hands?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: And with the discopers touched him, Okay, he was like
Speaker 2: physical to them, So okay, I guess you have to
Speaker 2: believe that, like the who is wit not that the
Speaker 2: atoms were coming back together. But then you have other
Speaker 2: claims about which are most like he ascended like the
Speaker 2: Tibetan monks used to.
Speaker 4: Do on a cloud, like he was a spiritual So.
Speaker 2: Even a Bible can't agree. But this is the problem.
Speaker 2: The Bible isn't one thing. It's a collection of different books,
Speaker 2: some with more genuinity than others, very many different sources.
Speaker 2: So let's say he did survive, and there's many good
Speaker 2: books about how this whole thing happened. There's even a
Speaker 2: document called the Eyewitness to the Crucifixion. But Joseph of
Speaker 2: Our in Matria, these scenes were master experts in healing,
Speaker 2: and Jesus was a master yogi. He knew everything yogi's did.
Speaker 2: He could breathe, he could put himself into this. I
Speaker 2: don't know the English world, but it's like almost a
Speaker 2: death stage. It's like a fake death stage, incubation thing
Speaker 2: that was a part of the nunciation anyway, So he
Speaker 2: when he hanged on the cross, he was breathing various
Speaker 2: he was lowering to.
Speaker 4: Minimum use minimum energy.
Speaker 2: And why would he bleed when the spare of destiny
Speaker 2: is put into his side? Right if he's deady, it
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen. So and why to say that the pave
Speaker 2: the tomb was empty when they obviously he was gone
Speaker 2: from there. Now the scenes had influenced some of them,
Speaker 2: especially Joseph in mithri Or. So they have some wealthy people,
Speaker 2: sub briberies, et cetera. So they managed to get get.
Speaker 4: Jesus out of there is how this story goes.
Speaker 2: Heal him and he went with Thomas. Thomas Didimos, by
Speaker 2: the way, means Thomas means twin, de demos means twin,
Speaker 2: so his name is really twin twin. And if you
Speaker 2: look at the early depictions of Christianity, and I'll see
Speaker 2: if I find yeah, here is I'll show you. Let's see.
Speaker 4: Can you see this?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: See that two babies? Two baby? Is that Thomas and Jesus.
Speaker 2: So they were trains. James was a big brother and
Speaker 2: he had other siblings too, also mentioned in the Bible.
Speaker 2: So they went to the east first to Persia, and
Speaker 2: I had a long there's even we even have maps
Speaker 2: of their chart. So he ended up in Kashmir, where
Speaker 2: his tomb still is, and thank god there was when
Speaker 2: these areas became Muslimized. Remember that Muslims have more respect
Speaker 2: for Christianity than Christians have for Islam. Thank God, that's
Speaker 2: why they often preserve churches and stuff and documents, and
Speaker 2: that's also why they honor like Christian people, like Jesus himself.
Speaker 2: And there was some There was this huge tribe in
Speaker 2: this area. They were called the Muslims of Isa, meaning
Speaker 2: the Muslims of Jesus or the devoted of Jesus. So
Speaker 2: they accepted Islam. They had to write also just like Christianity,
Speaker 2: Islam was also spread with this world, not always, not everywhere,
Speaker 2: but here and there at that point it was. But
Speaker 2: they said, okay, as long as you believe, sure, you
Speaker 2: can go on worshiping Jesus and all that stuff. Just
Speaker 2: be loyal Muslims and we don't care. Moving on, right,
Speaker 2: So that happened a lot, and so they kept the
Speaker 2: identity for a long time. Even today, there are still
Speaker 2: fragments that point to but when Jesus came there, there
Speaker 2: were already thousands and thousands of Jews living there. It
Speaker 2: was one of the main exile routes of Jews up
Speaker 2: in India and Kashmir. And you know, there are one
Speaker 2: of the earliest Christian churches, Thomas Church is all the
Speaker 2: way to China, China, India and where they have survived
Speaker 2: because you know, Prussia and other places became Muslim. So
Speaker 2: so yeah, there was Jewish roots going that way and
Speaker 2: then later Christians and among them were Jesus, and he
Speaker 2: was in charge, he was ruling. Everybody doesn't agree about this,
Speaker 2: so this is just one attract, but it's an interesting one.
Speaker 2: I think it's as much going for it. I've looked
Speaker 2: a lot into it. It's very dangerous to talk about this.
Speaker 2: People don't want to hear it. They need to know
Speaker 2: he lived. He died on the course, but he lived
Speaker 2: actually to the age of Actually James died before Jesus.
Speaker 2: He got killed by the Pauline and people. So and
Speaker 2: I actually no, I think he got killed. But it
Speaker 2: was I guess it was the Romans and the Pharisees,
Speaker 2: but it was the power Leans who were behind us.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: I we decided like thirty minutes before, thirty seconds before
Speaker 2: we started, that this was what go Yes, right, we
Speaker 2: were really going to discuss something else. But then half
Speaker 2: a minute before you started recording, we did. So I'm
Speaker 2: not prepared.
Speaker 1: Oh you did a wonderful job in the limited time
Speaker 1: that you had to prep for it. Man, but we
Speaker 1: do have a few minutes left I want to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the possibility that what we're experiencing now
Speaker 1: is an attempt to manifest biblical prophecy, is scripted revelations
Speaker 1: in a sense that the power structure, the global parasitic
Speaker 1: ruling class is using a series of wars and high
Speaker 1: impact events and political ideologies to attempt to bring about
Speaker 1: biblical prophecy. Do you think that is a part of
Speaker 1: what's happening.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not a Biblical prophecy. If so, it's an evangelic.
Speaker 2: Look if Christianity Polism was going Australia to begin with,
Speaker 2: look at evangelism. That's an insane perversia, not obviously nothing
Speaker 2: to do with Jesus and that stuff, but not even
Speaker 2: anything to do with Polism. Okay, so this insane belief.
Speaker 2: You know, the Evangels think that only Jews will die
Speaker 2: when Christ comes back or something right, and the Jews
Speaker 2: think and the Jews obviously doesn't believe that Christ will
Speaker 2: come back, so they're just using these crazy lunatics exploiting them,
Speaker 2: and these evangelics they support slaughter and eradication of the
Speaker 2: original churches and the original Christian communities that are poland communities.
Speaker 2: That are still around there. They think all Palestines are Muslims,
Speaker 2: and obviously they think Muslims should die. So how christian
Speaker 2: is that. The fact of the matter is there are
Speaker 2: Christian Palestines, and hold onto your hat, there are Jewish Palestines.
Speaker 2: They have had the option to become Israeli citizens, which
Speaker 2: they don't want to do.
Speaker 4: So. And there's not many left, neither.
Speaker 2: Of the Christians of the Jewish, because they're all being
Speaker 2: killed and eradicated. They're bombing in Bethlehem churches there. And
Speaker 2: Justin Amarsh is a libertarian politician in American Parliament Congress,
Speaker 2: and he's of the Christian Palestinian parents. So it's insane
Speaker 2: that these evangelics are hooking up with the Sionists. But
Speaker 2: of course the evangelics are really just neo cons, neolibs,
Speaker 2: neo cons, and the scientists are really just Jewish nuts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they cooperated with the It's not even it's not
Speaker 2: just a metaphor. It's historical. You could go into that too.
Speaker 2: I mentioned it in some of my shows. We haven't
Speaker 2: had a full show on.
Speaker 4: It, but we're going a little into it.
Speaker 2: Those Jews who were taken in Europe four million or
Speaker 2: other many that were actually where they were non Scionists,
Speaker 2: those who didn't want to go to because look, if
Speaker 2: you're live in Kashmir and for two thousand years your
Speaker 2: ancestors that.
Speaker 4: Lived there, are you going to just.
Speaker 2: Someone say no, move to England because because two thousand
Speaker 2: years ago some people came from England to your country.
Speaker 2: It's insane. You live where you live, right, nobody cares
Speaker 2: what happened two thousand years ago, and now we're going
Speaker 2: to relocate based on that. What's next next? We're going
Speaker 2: to relocate based on gender, based on skin color, eye color.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is volcaness, it's Nazism. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 2: this is some kind of volcness.
Speaker 4: It's there.
Speaker 2: And when it comes to Sionism, that's right volcaness, right
Speaker 2: wing vocalness. Volcaness is bad no matter which wing it.
Speaker 2: It's a pollution.
Speaker 4: On any wing anyway.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I actually answered your question, but
Speaker 2: I don't think I think if I think they're trying
Speaker 2: to manufacture something like that. But history, it doesn't repeat itself.
Speaker 2: It's just rhymes so and imitates. So I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything biblical going on right right now,
Speaker 2: when if someone sees Jesus in the sky, I promise
Speaker 2: you it's a horder round a projection.
Speaker 1: It's mainly theatrics to sort of bring about these emotional
Speaker 1: reactions from the masses right.
Speaker 2: It's politics, it's it's what happened in g Jesus times.
Speaker 2: It's happened after Jesus' time, it even happened before Jesus time,
Speaker 2: and it's happening now.
Speaker 4: And we can never find.
Speaker 2: The truth if we follow the mainstream of anything. Okay,
Speaker 2: it is in the small pockets. It's underneath the surface
Speaker 2: that things survive, and that's where you have to look
Speaker 2: if you if you care about truth like I do,
Speaker 2: but most people don't.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: They like to they like they like to compliment it
Speaker 2: in their party speeches, but in reality, truth is a
Speaker 2: huge threat and uncomfortable injury to most people, especially.
Speaker 1: Their emotions, which is why it's so important that you
Speaker 1: are presenting this stuff and getting it out there. And
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. Thank you again
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Speaker 1: all the benefits, this is your first time on, so
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about yourself and what led
Speaker 1: you down your path.
Speaker 5: Well, my I mean originally I worked in the medical
Speaker 5: field for like two decades or something and maybe a
Speaker 5: little bit more, and then I got sick, and you know,
Speaker 5: working with numerous doctors and specialists and hospitals, I really
Speaker 5: quickly realized in the first decade of my work that
Speaker 5: there's not a lot that they can do. That's that's
Speaker 5: really what I realized. I realized so many people's problems
Speaker 5: coming in and just the band aids and the terrible
Speaker 5: answers they get from doctors like, ah, we don't really
Speaker 5: know what causes it. No, we really can't fix it.
Speaker 5: Here's your you know, a pain pill or some other
Speaker 5: pill that really doesn't work and has numerous side effects.
Speaker 5: And so and I should say before I keep going,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to give any medical advice today, and
Speaker 5: I'm not making any medical claims today, and I'm not
Speaker 5: making any claims for organst any.
Speaker 3: Product or products everything. Today's my opinion.
Speaker 5: But anyway, it was kind of put that out there
Speaker 5: because of the amount of the facts that I've been getting.
Speaker 5: So now this lawyer I have, he's like just say right, yes,
Speaker 5: got you anyway, So I end up myself getting sick.
Speaker 5: And once I got sick, it was just a nightmare
Speaker 5: because I knew that what I know, the gauntlet of
Speaker 5: going through the whole, you know, medical avenue. And of
Speaker 5: course I did obviously have to look into mainstream medicine
Speaker 5: and they did nothing to fix my issues. I mean,
Speaker 5: they literally couldn't do anything. Then, so I have to
Speaker 5: take it, you know, upon myself. And so I'm a
Speaker 5: real big data guy. I have a very strong opinion
Speaker 5: that most of the health industry, including alternative health, in
Speaker 5: my opinion, there's just a lot of stuff out there
Speaker 5: that's garbage hit the majority. I hate to say that,
Speaker 5: but that's what I encountered. I've seen lab tests on products.
Speaker 5: I've seen supplements harm people. I've seen it also for me,
Speaker 5: I really had to figure this out if I was
Speaker 5: going to save my own life because I was really sick.
Speaker 5: I mean I had major problems. I mean I couldn't
Speaker 5: even walk. I literally couldn't even pick.
Speaker 3: Up a glass of water or work or remote control
Speaker 3: because of.
Speaker 5: The amount of pain I was in, which kept me
Speaker 5: from being able to even stand up. Also, like I said,
Speaker 5: and walk, and of it, I had a heart condition
Speaker 5: that was really bad. That they told me within my life,
Speaker 5: I'm technically supposed to be dead by now, and I
Speaker 5: was told I needed open heart surgery for it. My
Speaker 5: kidney's in my liver were really not at their best.
Speaker 5: It appeared that I had an autoimmune issue, so my
Speaker 5: gut was a mess. I had this kind of autoimmune
Speaker 5: issue causing a lot of inflammation, and on top of
Speaker 5: all that, my immune system was absolutely garbage. So it
Speaker 5: was it was just numerous, numerous problems. Sometimes I'd even
Speaker 5: feel like short of breath, so I didn't feel like
Speaker 5: my aunor in levels where they should be. Just things
Speaker 5: were not working basically in my body. And so because
Speaker 5: of that, I ended up unfortunately losing just I lost everything.
Speaker 5: You know, I couldn't work, you know, you lose your home,
Speaker 5: You just lose a lot of things. And for me,
Speaker 5: it was just it was a soul crusher, if I'm
Speaker 5: really quite honest with you. It just ruined my life.
Speaker 5: And I was reading all the latest medical data that
Speaker 5: I could find, because a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 5: that a lot of the stuff that's being used in
Speaker 5: Western medicine it's typically pretty outdated. I mean they are
Speaker 5: ten twenty behind oftentimes, And so I was reading all
Speaker 5: the latest medical data and I stumbled upon some data
Speaker 5: in regards to hydrogen. Now, when I started reading about it,
Speaker 5: I honestly immediately thought this stuff sounds like a scam
Speaker 5: because it was way too good to be true. I mean,
Speaker 5: this worked amazingly well. And I was just a skeptic,
Speaker 5: and as I am, I want really good data, and
Speaker 5: I really want to find the real stuff versus just
Speaker 5: hearsay and adult stuff. And so I kept reading and
Speaker 5: I became very desperate. After about three and a half
Speaker 5: to four years of reading the data and just getting worse.
Speaker 5: My health was just it was bad. And so I
Speaker 5: got so desperate, and I'm like, how do I get
Speaker 5: my hands on this hydrogen stuff? And that was a
Speaker 5: major problem. I didn't know the amounts, like the milligrams
Speaker 5: I was supposed to take, or how many milli leaders
Speaker 5: per leader? Am I supposed to be in healing of
Speaker 5: the gas?
Speaker 1: How did you first come across Where did you find
Speaker 1: the initial information about hydrogen?
Speaker 5: I found it in medical literature, so scientific studies that
Speaker 5: were being done. And because I was such a skeptic,
Speaker 5: I'm like, who's doing these studies? So then that took
Speaker 5: me to Japan, and it led me to Japan, and
Speaker 5: that's when I realized that the Japanese were literally the
Speaker 5: mecca of hydrogen. They are better than anybody there is
Speaker 5: they obviously, they just know so much about.
Speaker 3: HydroD and not just medically.
Speaker 5: By the way, they're gonna change the world with hydrogen.
Speaker 5: Hydrogen is going to be a huge part of the future.
Speaker 5: And so that's kind of how it all got started.
Speaker 5: And then I had to obviously not learn just about
Speaker 5: what it can do, but then learning how to make it,
Speaker 5: how to consume it, you know, to see if it
Speaker 5: can help me and it transform my life. And then
Speaker 5: I started it actually transformed other people in my life,
Speaker 5: like my father for example, different relatives, different friends. And
Speaker 5: when I started seeing the power of hydrogen, it just
Speaker 5: blew me away. Because I had tried all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 5: I tried the diet, I had tried a lot of
Speaker 5: different supplements. Of course, I was watching podcasts, I was
Speaker 5: trying different diets. I tried something called hpot which is
Speaker 5: like an oxygen machine, and different types of treatment that
Speaker 5: they do with that. I spent an absolute fortune, actually, sadly,
Speaker 5: on all sorts of different things to modalities to try
Speaker 5: to really overcome this health issue that I was having,
Speaker 5: and in the end, the hydrogen just transformed it. I
Speaker 5: mean just the name off a few things that I
Speaker 5: have personally seen, not what all the studies show, because
Speaker 5: the studies show almost two hundred ailments, and there's not
Speaker 5: like just ten studies or twenty studies. There's like over
Speaker 5: two thousand studies up to date, and so clearly hydrogen
Speaker 5: is amazing. But I've seen things like, even in my
Speaker 5: own family, high blood pressure you know, disappear, cholesterol issues, diabetes, arthritis, glaucoma,
Speaker 5: macular degeneration, even a retina tear, a lot of different
Speaker 5: skin issues. In fact, there's a medical center now they're
Speaker 5: using the protocols that I've created of all things, and
Speaker 5: the results have been so amazing. In fact, that one
Speaker 5: of the people had like a stroke and they couldn't walk,
Speaker 5: they couldn't talk, they couldn't dress themselves. Now they're dressing themselves.
Speaker 5: Now they're talking, now they're walking. And this other person
Speaker 5: had some really major skin conditions. I've seen a lot
Speaker 5: of skin conditions, gut issues, people with Crohn's disease, siliac disease,
Speaker 5: autoimmune shoes.
Speaker 3: Even my heart.
Speaker 5: Condition went away and I was told I needed open
Speaker 5: heart surgery. So it was just so unbelievable all the
Speaker 5: things that I'd seen, and the way that hydrogen appears
Speaker 5: to accelerate healing by triple the speed, the way it
Speaker 5: protects against different things like not just radiation, but even
Speaker 5: in other stuff like have you ever heard of a
Speaker 5: drug call cusplatin?
Speaker 3: So it's a cancer drug for like tumor.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 5: Now, the interesting thing about it is you won't find
Speaker 5: doctors using it very often because it appears to basically
Speaker 5: destroy your kidneys.
Speaker 3: So if you take this drug, you're.
Speaker 5: Gonna end up needing a kidney transplant, right. And they
Speaker 5: did a study where they used hydrogen while using this
Speaker 5: isplatin and the kidneys kept over seventy percent of their function,
Speaker 5: So basically you were able to receive the treatment quote unquote,
Speaker 5: and then you could walk out with your original kidneys.
Speaker 5: So it shows you the power of how hydrogen can
Speaker 5: protect the body from all sorts of different stuff. One
Speaker 5: of the crazier things that I realize and learned it's
Speaker 5: been over a year now, but very few people know
Speaker 5: about it, is if I spend too much time out
Speaker 5: of the sun, and even a lot of friends and
Speaker 5: family that I know we burn, right, you get red
Speaker 5: or you get a sunburn, and started realizing that I
Speaker 5: wasn't burning, and then I started realizing that these other
Speaker 5: friends and family members weren't burning either, And then I
Speaker 5: finally realized that the hydrogen was not just keeping us
Speaker 5: from burning, which is insane in my opinion, no sunscreen,
Speaker 5: no nothing. My personal theory is that it's also allowing
Speaker 5: us to absorb the light and utilize it in a
Speaker 5: more effective manner. It really transforms the body and does
Speaker 5: things that people have a hard time literally believing. And
Speaker 5: I've done a lot of blood work on myself trying
Speaker 5: to see if my methods have been working or not
Speaker 5: throughout the last decade. And excuse me, but the most
Speaker 5: recent blood work was really wild. Because anybody who's worked
Speaker 5: in the medical establishment knows that typically you're not going
Speaker 5: to get a phone call about something, whether it's a
Speaker 5: scan or bood work, unless it's bad news. If it's
Speaker 5: good news, they don't call you because otherwise they have
Speaker 5: to be calling everybody and saying, hey, you're fine.
Speaker 3: And I received a call.
Speaker 5: From the doctor on my last blood work, which made
Speaker 5: me really nervous. I was like, why are you calling me?
Speaker 5: What's going on? And she said, well, I saw something
Speaker 5: in your blood work. I've been doing this for over
Speaker 5: three decades, and I was just nervous. I'm like this,
Speaker 5: tell me what you found, please, and she said, don't worry,
Speaker 5: there's nothing wrong. The reason that I'm calling is because
Speaker 5: I've never in over thirty years of doing this, I've
Speaker 5: never seen blood work that looks like you're. She said,
Speaker 5: it's unbelievable. And the fact that you have, I mean,
Speaker 5: everything looks great, but you also don't have any nutritional deficiencies,
Speaker 5: which is a big thing that I was trying to
Speaker 5: cover while trying to overcome medical issues, because it's pretty
Speaker 5: well established that we know if we have a deficiency,
Speaker 5: it typically leads to some type of disease, for example,
Speaker 5: like scurvy. Like if you have a vitamin C deficiency,
Speaker 5: at least of scurvy, and you can fix scurvy with
Speaker 5: vitamin C. You know, just getting your levels up. So
Speaker 5: I wanted to just be like per and have all
Speaker 5: my levels up. And the average person just doesn't know
Speaker 5: that the average American is typically deficient. There almost everybody's deficient.
Speaker 5: Everybody's deficient in something. It's really hard to be perfect.
Speaker 5: And so that's why she had called me because she's like,
Speaker 5: this looks unbelievable. And I don't like to talk about
Speaker 5: diet too much. I'll just say that. She started asking
Speaker 5: me about my diet, and then she became even more
Speaker 5: shocked because she said, there's just no way you can
Speaker 5: eat like that and have no deficiency. She goes, that's impossible,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, well, you're looking at the blood work,
Speaker 5: and she said, yeah, it's unbelievable. And I think what
Speaker 5: happens is the hydrogen because of the way that it
Speaker 5: affects the gut so well. By the way, it's amazing
Speaker 5: what it does for the gut. It's allowing my body
Speaker 5: to become ultra efficient. It's like transforming my body. That's
Speaker 5: the crazy part. It's literally allowing me to be able
Speaker 5: to absorb nutrients, minerals, all sorts of stuff on a
Speaker 5: whole other level, all while protecting me from a lot
Speaker 5: of the bad stuff. So it's just been something that's
Speaker 5: absolutely transformed my life and other people in my life.
Speaker 5: And so I obviously I opened up by YouTube channel
Speaker 5: mostly because I'd made a prayer when I was really sick,
Speaker 5: and I also desperate, you know we right when we're
Speaker 5: desperate sometimes, and I just asked for help from up
Speaker 5: above and say, hey, if you can guide me and
Speaker 5: help me find the solutions to these problems, I promise
Speaker 5: I'll share them, you know, the solutions for free and
Speaker 5: give it to people. And that's what ended up happening.
Speaker 5: So that's that's why I ended up doing my YouTube
Speaker 5: channel and getting on your show. So I appreciate you
Speaker 5: having me on to be able to share the information
Speaker 5: that I uncovered that.
Speaker 3: It's really simple too. It's nothing particular complex.
Speaker 1: Right on, and for most people, including myself, when they
Speaker 1: hear hydrogen, the last thing they probably thinking of is
Speaker 1: something for health benefits or for treatment purposes. But let's
Speaker 1: redefine hydrogen as it relates to this. Talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about what it is and how it affects the
Speaker 1: human body.
Speaker 3: So ultimately we're talking.
Speaker 5: About molecular hydrogen. Right There are different types of hydrogen,
Speaker 5: So we are talking molecular hydrogen, which is technically H
Speaker 5: two and it's just a gas much, you know, a lot,
Speaker 5: just like oxygen. Oxygen's just the gas, so you know,
Speaker 5: nothing particularly crazy and the way I mean, modern science
Speaker 5: doesn't know the full like mechanism of how exactly it works.
Speaker 3: They see that it works, but.
Speaker 5: They don't know the full mechanism, but there have been discoveries.
Speaker 5: They do see that it appears to function as a
Speaker 5: selective antioxidant, which is really a big deal because people
Speaker 5: don't actually know that different antioxidants come in different sizes.
Speaker 5: So if you're ce like vitamin E or vitamin C
Speaker 5: or glutathion or poke ten or whatever, those would be
Speaker 5: larger than hydrogen. And the fact that hydrogen is so
Speaker 5: tiny is part of it's not just as mystery, but
Speaker 5: the way that it's so powerful because it can literally
Speaker 5: get into anything, including your mitochondria. That was one of
Speaker 5: the first studies done was on the mitochondria, and which
Speaker 5: is really important because a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 5: as far as how important our metabolism is. Like in
Speaker 5: my personal opinion, and even I believe there's a doctor
Speaker 5: named doctor Sefreed, but I actually believe the cancer is
Speaker 5: actually what they call a metabolic disorder, and there's a
Speaker 5: lot of different things that are metabolic disorders in my opinion,
Speaker 5: which is one of the reasons why you can cause
Speaker 5: so much fatigue and cause so many issues because you're
Speaker 5: not really producing the amount of energy that you should
Speaker 5: be producing. And so hydrogen what it really appears to do. So, yes,
Speaker 5: it's fun, it's a selective antioxidant. Yes, it appears to
Speaker 5: be an anti inflammatory, a cell signaling, a molecule, all
Speaker 5: sorts of different things that it appears to be. But
Speaker 5: the biggest one that I think is interesting is just
Speaker 5: how it combats oxidative stress. So in Japan, they had
Speaker 5: a list of all these medical conditions that they had
Speaker 5: seen hydrogen be effective for, and they had all the medications,
Speaker 5: pharmaceutical medications next to each condition that would be used
Speaker 5: for such a condition, and then they would have another
Speaker 5: list of medicines for the side effects of the original medicines,
Speaker 5: and basically you ended up with a massive list of pills.
Speaker 5: And then they just showed hydrogen, and they're like, how
Speaker 5: can hydrogen do all this? How can it be effective
Speaker 5: for all these things and do all these things with
Speaker 5: no side effects? In fact, the only side effects so
Speaker 5: far that I have seen or won an anti aging effect.
Speaker 5: So they didn't really think that it would be for
Speaker 5: anti aging. But they did some blood work on a
Speaker 5: Japanese guy, and in Japan they do some really interesting
Speaker 5: blood work. They can literally tell you roughly what your
Speaker 5: age is just by looking at your blood.
Speaker 3: And then they tested this guy.
Speaker 5: He used molecular hydrogen proper levels and properly made I
Speaker 5: can never emphasize that enough.
Speaker 3: And then they tested.
Speaker 5: His blood again after one year, and his blood ended
Speaker 5: up being five years younger. So it seems to have
Speaker 5: this very interesting anti aging effect now after using it
Speaker 5: for years. The one thing that really nobody's talked about
Speaker 5: that I just kind of stumbled upon on my own
Speaker 5: is that it also appears to have this very strange,
Speaker 5: almost like spiritual aspect to it. The way that it
Speaker 5: affects the pineal gland. I think a lot of it
Speaker 5: has to do with the oxidative stress that the pioneal
Speaker 5: glands suffers. And also it appears that the pineal gland
Speaker 5: is not protected by the blood brain barrier and just
Speaker 5: the oxyd I just think just the oxidative stress in general,
Speaker 5: so I can really function properly. And also because I
Speaker 5: think hydrogen was the very first thing ever created, you know,
Speaker 5: quote unquote, let there be light you know, and all
Speaker 5: the stars. People don't realize that all the stars in
Speaker 5: the sky are basically made up almost entirely hydrogen.
Speaker 3: They are also made.
Speaker 5: Of helium, but helium actually is, you know, just another
Speaker 5: form of hydrogen. And so it really ended up being
Speaker 5: this strange moment for me because it took years. It
Speaker 5: didn't happen immediately, and then I started having like visions
Speaker 5: and premonitions and.
Speaker 3: All sorts of crazy stuff.
Speaker 5: I don't even like to use the word prophecy, but
Speaker 5: I mean I have made quote unquote, I don't like
Speaker 5: to call them that, but I made a few predictions.
Speaker 5: I guess I could call it that, and they were
Speaker 5: so accurate that I ended up actually being on another
Speaker 5: show that has to do with prophecies because somebody knew
Speaker 5: me and they were like, how did you know that
Speaker 5: this was going to happen? And I think that everything
Speaker 5: is literally written in hydrogen. I think hydrogen is literally.
Speaker 3: The source of all.
Speaker 5: It is the book that has been keeping all the
Speaker 5: informations there since the beginning.
Speaker 3: Just like, have you ever seen this book before?
Speaker 1: By the way, Yes, yes, it's a great book.
Speaker 5: So a lot of people, yes, it is the great
Speaker 5: book and the hidden messages in water basically, and what
Speaker 5: people don't realize.
Speaker 3: Again, it's a Japanese guy who discovers this.
Speaker 5: The Japanese, I'm telling you right now, they are absolutely
Speaker 5: next level when it comes to water. And so that's
Speaker 5: primarily how I transformed my life was learning how to
Speaker 5: clean water to the highest degree, because by the way,
Speaker 5: water filters are not going to clean your water completely.
Speaker 5: And I've been recently a laboratory recently contacted me because
Speaker 5: they saw me on a show and the things that
Speaker 5: we're seeing even in water filters. So this lab was
Speaker 5: doing lab tests on water filters and it's crazy, but
Speaker 5: it has a very special attribute to it that you
Speaker 5: can actually purify it to the highest degree pretty inexpensively.
Speaker 5: And it's in my personal opinion, very important to have
Speaker 5: ultra clean water if you're both trying to transform your
Speaker 5: health and also transform spiritually the bodies. The bodies like
Speaker 5: a temple, and the blood of the body needs to
Speaker 5: be extremely clean really to take it to another level,
Speaker 5: which ended up happening a lot to me by accident.
Speaker 5: I didn't do it on purpose. I just kind of
Speaker 5: I was just trying to heal my body. That's all
Speaker 5: I was trying to do little that I know that
Speaker 5: so many other things would be coming with this.
Speaker 1: You mentioned how hydrogen contains building blocks for our entire reality.
Speaker 1: There may be some sort of hidden properties that we're
Speaker 1: still not aware of when it comes to the benefits
Speaker 1: of hydrogen. Based on all your research, do you think
Speaker 1: that in our ancient past they had knowledge of the
Speaker 1: benefits of hydrogen.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I've already seen it. I say I've seen
Speaker 5: it because I've had the visions. But basically what I
Speaker 5: can tell you is places like Atlantis, for example, masterful
Speaker 5: with water, masterful with hydrogen.
Speaker 3: They knew all about it.
Speaker 5: And even the Pyramids. I've done this for quite some time.
Speaker 5: It appears that people are starting to catch on and
Speaker 5: realize that the pyramids, for example, the Giza Pyramid has
Speaker 5: to do with hydrogen, and there's even more to it
Speaker 5: than that. People haven't realized that yet. Either someday I'll
Speaker 5: talk about it or they'll eventually figured it out. But
Speaker 5: hydrogen is a huge component and part of how it works.
Speaker 5: But it's fundamental for I mean, between electricity and hydrogen
Speaker 5: and water, those are your magic pieces to do all
Speaker 5: sorts of amazing stuff.
Speaker 3: Right on.
Speaker 1: Going back to your experience with hydrogen, how did you
Speaker 1: use it and what was the process. How fast did
Speaker 1: you start to notice any difference?
Speaker 4: What was it like?
Speaker 1: Can you kind of walk us through?
Speaker 3: So first I started with hydrogen water.
Speaker 5: Now I will say before I even begin, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't use no recommending these little bottles because people
Speaker 5: are always thinking when I talk about hydrogen, they think
Speaker 5: I'm talking about these things. So I'm sure we'll get
Speaker 5: into it later. But how you make the hydrogen really matters.
Speaker 5: That's one thing that I learned. You can't just look
Speaker 5: at medical data because then you have to learn how
Speaker 5: to apply it. And that's where I had to learn
Speaker 5: about engineering. The signs of metals was also very important,
Speaker 5: metallurgy and even the signs of the membranes, all the
Speaker 5: different ways to make hydrogen. It was really quite involved.
Speaker 5: And basically that's how I first started. And of course
Speaker 5: all my research kept leading me to Japan and just
Speaker 5: kept going back to Japan. And all those little bottles
Speaker 5: that I just showed you, they're basically all made in China,
Speaker 5: and the Chinese are doing things that I'm not really
Speaker 5: happy about, but the Japanese are really big on like
Speaker 5: purity and doing things right and doing it for the love.
Speaker 5: And I was looking at gold data of every single machine.
Speaker 5: I literally know all the machines out there, and it
Speaker 5: led me to this particular machine that happened. It just
Speaker 5: happened to be the number one machine in all of Japan.
Speaker 5: So that would have really narrowed down my research if
Speaker 5: I would have just looked for that. It took me forever,
Speaker 5: and so ultimately this I got this machine that makes
Speaker 5: and I guess for people who want to see it,
Speaker 5: it's at a website called Holy Hydrogen dot com. But
Speaker 5: this particular machine, it's all Japanese engineers, Japanese handbuilt. They're
Speaker 5: all lab tested, certified. Nobody does that for every single machine.
Speaker 5: And the machine allowed me to be able to drink
Speaker 5: the water, so hydrogen water, which is very interesting, I
Speaker 5: would say, because another thing that I oftentimes did is yes,
Speaker 5: I would read scientific data, but I would also look
Speaker 5: to nature for answers. I really believe in the power
Speaker 5: of nature and creation, and so I started mimicking certain
Speaker 5: things about what nature does, and one of them was
Speaker 5: have you ever heard of a place called Lords France
Speaker 5: or Lord? Yeah, So Lords France has these quote unquote
Speaker 5: heal waters or you know, healing springs that people drink from,
Speaker 5: and nobody could figure out what was so special about
Speaker 5: that water. And eventually the Japanese did find out that
Speaker 5: that water had high levels of molecular hydrogen.
Speaker 3: So nature actually.
Speaker 5: Makes this water. I think that's a really important thing.
Speaker 5: And then so I saw that, and then also how
Speaker 5: nature actually purifies water, so I mimicked that also based
Speaker 5: on I mean, i'd have lab reports. These are third
Speaker 5: party lab reports on water and what's in the water.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many things from pages of just nasty,
Speaker 3: nasty stuff.
Speaker 5: There's no wonder that water would potentially make us sick
Speaker 5: on top of all this, and so that was kind
Speaker 5: of the beginning of really understanding. So I started drinking
Speaker 5: the water, understanding how and when to drink, and I
Speaker 5: actually created protocols which turned out to be the best
Speaker 5: protocols out there. Right now, everybody started copying my protocols,
Speaker 5: and that's what they're using in some of these like
Speaker 5: healing centers where they're literally using my protocols. And now
Speaker 5: doctors are literally flying to this center because of the
Speaker 5: results that they've seen for their patients. And they want
Speaker 5: to know what the center's doing, and they're literally just
Speaker 5: doing my protocols. And so that's how I got it started.
Speaker 5: And then the reason I like the device that I
Speaker 5: use is because it allows you to also inhale the
Speaker 5: hydrogen gas. So drinking the hydrogen water seems to have
Speaker 5: a certain effect on the body, inhaling the gas seems
Speaker 5: to have another effect. I like to do both, and
Speaker 5: I have a specific way which I do both, and
Speaker 5: that ended up causing even more abundance in regards to
Speaker 5: health that neither one of these could do alone as
Speaker 5: far as the water or the gas, which is fine
Speaker 5: if you did them alone too, and there are benefits,
Speaker 5: but when you did them together, the data really appears
Speaker 5: to show that that was the way to go, basically.
Speaker 5: And so having to feel that.
Speaker 1: How soon after you started did you start to notice
Speaker 1: a difference with how you were feeling?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: For me, it took months. I've even seen like I remember,
Speaker 5: my father was a really good example. He had glaucoma
Speaker 5: for over three decades and it took him about two
Speaker 5: to three years before his glaucoma went away. So it's
Speaker 5: kind of like I think the really good example is
Speaker 5: like people who get sick a lot of times, you
Speaker 5: don't just get sick, you know, from one day to
Speaker 5: the next. It's something that's building up inside your body
Speaker 5: that takes time and then eventually it turns into illness.
Speaker 5: So it's not just it doesn't just happen overnight. So
Speaker 5: the hydrogen is kind of the same way. So like
Speaker 5: if you were, you know, really overweight, you're not going
Speaker 5: to lose all your weight in a day, you know,
Speaker 5: or a couple of days or a week.
Speaker 3: It takes time to get in shape.
Speaker 5: And so for the hydrogen for me, it took a
Speaker 5: good six day eight months. For my father it was
Speaker 5: a good six day eight months except for the glaucoma.
Speaker 5: So all the other issues he had, but the glackcoma's
Speaker 5: the one that took the longest. And I typically see
Speaker 5: a relation. This is data from Japan too. The longer
Speaker 5: you had the condition, the longer it takes for it
Speaker 5: to go away. So what I typically for every ten
Speaker 5: years you've had a condition, it takes about a year
Speaker 5: using hydrogen for it to go away.
Speaker 3: But it just depends.
Speaker 5: I've seen people get results within a week or two
Speaker 5: you also, so it's kind of wild the spectrum, but
Speaker 5: I think a really good solid number six eight months
Speaker 5: from everything that I've seen throughout all these years.
Speaker 1: So the primary ways to utilize this would be with
Speaker 1: hydrogen water or gas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think water, okay, So in my opinion, water's
Speaker 5: always going to be foundation. So I always teach on
Speaker 5: how to clean water to the highest degree and to
Speaker 5: make it easy for people. If they want to know
Speaker 5: what equipment I use, that's on a different website. It's
Speaker 5: a different company. That one's called my purewater dot Com.
Speaker 5: And I guess if people want a discount code, they
Speaker 5: can use my code if they want. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: But my coat is uprising one four four K and
Speaker 5: those are what's called carbon distillers, so they clean the
Speaker 5: water to the highest degree.
Speaker 3: Is my first thing I want.
Speaker 5: To do because I want to eliminate anything that could
Speaker 5: potentially be causing the illness that I had or the
Speaker 5: illnesses that I had. And then you're going to be
Speaker 5: using the wall is a carrier for the hydrogen gas,
Speaker 5: so you're literally dissolving the gas into water, kind of
Speaker 5: like carbonated water has you know CO two dissolved into
Speaker 5: it a gas and so it's the same thing with
Speaker 5: hydrogen and then just drinking the water.
Speaker 3: I mean, I like to drink it on an empty stomach.
Speaker 5: That's my protocol, typically twenty to thirty minutes before meals.
Speaker 5: One of the reasons I like to do it that
Speaker 5: way too, is because of how protective hydrogen is. So
Speaker 5: our meals are always I mean, maybe there's a chemical
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 3: There's always something in our.
Speaker 5: Meal that's not really good for us, you know, as
Speaker 5: far as food's concerned. And so I think taken in
Speaker 5: the water first, it helps us digest it, it helps
Speaker 5: us protect us against potentially any harmful things in the food,
Speaker 5: and in my opinion, it also helps me with what
Speaker 5: I call super absorption because of the nutrients, which has
Speaker 5: been one of the weird things I've seen my body
Speaker 5: now being able to do and confirmed by blood work.
Speaker 1: So what would be the main differences between what you'd
Speaker 1: experience using water and gas.
Speaker 5: Well, I think again, for the water, I mean, first thing,
Speaker 5: that's kind of how nature appears to do it, and
Speaker 5: the GI system requires just a massive amount of water
Speaker 5: to digest the meal. A lot of people don't realize
Speaker 5: that a lot of times. That's why when people are
Speaker 5: eating in the middle of the meal. They'll get thirsty
Speaker 5: and want to drink water. But at that point, now
Speaker 5: you're going to dilute the stomach acids. The water's in
Speaker 5: a sit in your stomach. This is why I like
Speaker 5: drinking the water on an empty stomach, and they'll go
Speaker 5: right through you in you know, twenty minutes, maybe thirty
Speaker 5: minutes and prep the body for the digestion of the meal.
Speaker 5: The hydrogen gas the reason I like the hydrogen gas,
Speaker 5: and not to be confused with some people mix it or.
Speaker 3: Try to produce hydrogen and oxygen.
Speaker 5: The medical data clearly is on pure hydrogen and that's
Speaker 5: what I like to use obviously. But the pure hydrogen
Speaker 5: gas can go straight to the brain. I've worked with
Speaker 5: people with Alzheimer's, dementia, traumatic brain injury, swollen brains. I mean,
Speaker 5: I've you know, worked with people with all these different
Speaker 5: types of conditions, which has been very interesting. And the
Speaker 5: hydrogen gas can go straight to the brain.
Speaker 3: Also the way that it.
Speaker 5: Affects the eyes, because the eyes are kind of technically
Speaker 5: part of the brain, and so if you have some
Speaker 5: eye condition, so that's another thing. And also the way
Speaker 5: it affects your lungs, so if you're inhaling the gas,
Speaker 5: so it's just kind of a little different than the
Speaker 5: water because it goes the water goes into your GI system,
Speaker 5: you know, the way that it affects my opinion, a
Speaker 5: kidney is the liver and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: Should people be weary when trying to find the best
Speaker 1: quality hydrogenet out there? Is there some that may not
Speaker 1: be as good as others.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, absolutely, I've seen it. I've literally it's
Speaker 5: kind of sad, but I've seen people get sick from
Speaker 5: using the wrong type of hydrogen. And even more recently,
Speaker 5: there's a laboratory, like I was telling you, that contacted
Speaker 5: me and they've actually been doing lab tests on different
Speaker 5: hydrogen products. And that's why the guide contacted me because
Speaker 5: he found some things anomalies that were basically not so
Speaker 5: I'll just say not good stuff. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: name the products because for many reasons, but all I'll
Speaker 5: say is that I would never want to use so
Speaker 5: far from what I've seen, I would never use any
Speaker 5: product that's made from China. So far, I wouldn't use
Speaker 5: any product that uses stainless steel as a metal or
Speaker 5: uses something called lie or sodium hydroxide. Any machine that
Speaker 5: uses just distilled water. I'm also a little bit wary
Speaker 5: of and any machine that uses plated metals. So there's
Speaker 5: a lot of like so like. Again, these are obviously
Speaker 5: a good example, these little tiny bottles that are quote
Speaker 5: unquote from they're basically made in China.
Speaker 3: I've seen lab tests now on the membranes. I don't
Speaker 3: like what's in the membranes.
Speaker 5: They're using plated metal, and they also directly electrolyze the water,
Speaker 5: which creates more impurities also, so I don't use these.
Speaker 3: I would. You couldn't pay me to use one of those,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot. There really is a lot to it.
Speaker 5: But luckily the Japanese, I mean, if it wasn't for
Speaker 5: this one company, I've only found maybe two or three
Speaker 5: good hydrogen machines out of all the hundreds that are
Speaker 5: out there. Most of them are just, I hate to say,
Speaker 5: of a Chinese garbage.
Speaker 3: In my opinion.
Speaker 5: They don't seem to care about trying to make the gas,
Speaker 5: you know, a super super high quality without any type
Speaker 5: of byproduct, you know, because you're running electricity through metal
Speaker 5: and water plated. I just did a video on this recently.
Speaker 5: You know, when you know plated metals, have you ever
Speaker 5: seen what happens to something that's plated after time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've seen it.
Speaker 5: And there was somebody recently who was like a naturopathic
Speaker 5: doctor or something, and she her story was interesting. She
Speaker 5: had her husband as a jeweler, and you'd always tell
Speaker 5: her how important the metal is, like if you buy
Speaker 5: ear rings or where ringing or something that's not plated
Speaker 5: and the purity needs to be extremely high. And she
Speaker 5: bought a cheap pair of earrings. She thought it wouldn't
Speaker 5: be a big deal. But she does blood work quite
Speaker 5: regularly also, and what did she find but heavy metal
Speaker 5: toxicity in her blood.
Speaker 3: And she's like, where did this come from?
Speaker 5: It was her jewelry, because her jewelry was using plated metal.
Speaker 5: And her husband told her, Hey, I told you don't
Speaker 5: use anything that's not of super high purity and high quality.
Speaker 5: So I had That was one of many interesting stories.
Speaker 5: There's many like that that I've seen throughout the years.
Speaker 1: What would you recommend using if a person is interested
Speaker 1: in starting to use hydrogen? Are there different devices? Are
Speaker 1: there different things to create hydrogen water versus the gas?
Speaker 1: Could you tell us a little bit about the options.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's both.
Speaker 5: Right, there's machines that make the water and there's machines
Speaker 5: that make the gas. The one that again that I
Speaker 5: happen to use, happens to do both, which is perfect.
Speaker 5: And the reason that I was kind of impressed when
Speaker 5: I found this machine, this Jampanese machine, was because you
Speaker 5: want to read all the levels, all the numbers, and
Speaker 5: a lot of the numbers that I've seen out there
Speaker 5: honestly don't make any sense. They literally are numbers. I
Speaker 5: think they're just trying to trick people, and the average
Speaker 5: person just doesn't understand. And when I found the numbers
Speaker 5: on this machine, I saw, wow, it literally fell in
Speaker 5: line with all the medical data that I was reading.
Speaker 5: And then I found out later that that's how they
Speaker 5: developed the machine. They did it literally on purpose, following
Speaker 5: the medical data. That's why it's like the latest of
Speaker 5: devices that are following the actual medical data from the
Speaker 5: amount of hydrogen gas that it puts out. Because it
Speaker 5: puts out the amount of hydrogen gas that is used
Speaker 5: in top university hospitals in Japan. They use roughly about
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty milli liters per minute so when
Speaker 5: you see devices out there that claim two thousand milli
Speaker 5: liters per minute, to be quite honest, it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is not what's being medically used. And
Speaker 5: when you start using amounts like that, I mean, hydrogen
Speaker 5: can displace oxygen. So you want to follow the data,
Speaker 5: you know, in my opinion, and so.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask, Can you use
Speaker 1: too much? Is it possible to overdose?
Speaker 5: I think with the right equipment, in my opinion, no,
Speaker 5: because you're getting the right the right amounts and really
Speaker 5: is quite safe and typically off gas where you breathe
Speaker 5: it out. But like I said, if you do levels
Speaker 5: that are way too high. But a lot of these levels,
Speaker 5: you know, just so you know, they're literally guesstimates. They're
Speaker 5: not actually testing their equipment. That's one thing that I've
Speaker 5: found out the hard way. There's so much that I've
Speaker 5: found for my research. And that's why I said, literally
Speaker 5: the device that I use, it gets lab tested and certified.
Speaker 5: Every single machine that they make.
Speaker 3: Nobody does that.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was so dumbfound that. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 5: you guys do this, and they're like yes, because that
Speaker 5: machine is being used in numerous, numerous medical centers in Japan.
Speaker 5: It's their number one machine. You have to know how
Speaker 5: much the hydrogen that you're getting in your nose, so
Speaker 5: that's another big one. They literally were measuring the amount
Speaker 5: of hydrogen gas coming out of the little tubing the
Speaker 5: canula right by your nose. And that's important because most
Speaker 5: machines are guessing their production, not how much you're actually
Speaker 5: getting in your nose. Because the Japanese are just so
Speaker 5: detail oriented. A lot of people don't know their culture,
Speaker 5: but they're so into the details. They found out that
Speaker 5: you were literally losing hydrogen as it was getting to
Speaker 5: your nose because of the two being because hydrogen is
Speaker 5: so tiny personally, I think hydrogen is interdimensional molecule. That's
Speaker 5: just my opinion. Because this stuff literally go through anything,
Speaker 5: like they'll go right through glass, they'll go right through metal,
Speaker 5: they'll go right through walls, they'll go right through your tissues.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's kind of bonkers what it does. And
Speaker 5: so the Japanese had to develop They actually had Yamaha
Speaker 5: to it. So that's another beautiful thing about the guy
Speaker 5: who created this device. He got so much help from
Speaker 5: like Toyota and Yamaha and g Shock and some metal
Speaker 5: company from Japan to make the best hydrogen machine.
Speaker 3: I mean, the whole reason apparently he wanted to.
Speaker 5: Do it was for his daughter. His daughter was actually dying.
Speaker 5: She was born with als otherwise known as Louke Gerrig's disease,
Speaker 5: and so he knew that hydrogen, based on the data,
Speaker 5: should be able to help her, and he wanted to
Speaker 5: develop basically the best machine there is for home use,
Speaker 5: which is what he did, and he asked for help
Speaker 5: from top engineers in Japan.
Speaker 3: And then you know.
Speaker 5: His daughter was supposed to be lucky to make it
Speaker 5: to the age of five, and she is now I believe,
Speaker 5: like thirteen years old or something. So it was unbelievable
Speaker 5: and the machine became such a big hit in Japan.
Speaker 5: But also the rubbles that the water makes is very important.
Speaker 5: So they also make basically better nano bubbles than anybody
Speaker 5: there is, so you get really good absorption of the
Speaker 5: hydrogen through your GI system.
Speaker 1: Also, you mentioned that there are some anomalous attributes to hydrogen,
Speaker 1: how it basically can go through anything. Could you tell
Speaker 1: you a little bit more about that.
Speaker 5: Well, like I said, it's either I mean the theory
Speaker 5: is they think that it's just so small that it
Speaker 5: can again go through anything. I think it's personally. I
Speaker 5: think it's going in and out of dimensions. I think
Speaker 5: it's literally interdimensional, and it'll pop out and pop back in,
Speaker 5: and it appears to go through something when it's actually
Speaker 5: just kind of disappearing and reappearing. It's it's pretty bonkers.
Speaker 5: I mean to give you an example.
Speaker 3: Remember we were.
Speaker 5: Talking about this book here a second ago. So I'll
Speaker 5: give you one of my theories. And probably once, I
Speaker 5: say to everybody's inn I think they came up with it,
Speaker 5: because that's happened a lot. But you see, you see
Speaker 5: how water is affected by words, music, pictures, all sorts
Speaker 5: of stuff, right like this was a picture, a beautiful
Speaker 5: picture on water, and it came up to this, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: And so I don't think it's the water that has
Speaker 5: the memory, because that was what this guy said. He goes,
Speaker 5: I have proven the water has memory. I don't think
Speaker 5: it's the water, my friend, a hydrogen within the water,
Speaker 5: because water is h two.
Speaker 3: Oh you got your age right there.
Speaker 5: And there's many more secrets that I'll probably reveal in time,
Speaker 5: but basically it's the hydrogen that appears to have not
Speaker 5: just the memory, but it holds it is it is
Speaker 5: the true archive of everything in existence. That's why I
Speaker 5: believe because this is the things that started being shown
Speaker 5: to me. I mean this started I believed about four
Speaker 5: years or so after and after the seven years of
Speaker 5: using hydrogen, it's done something to me.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 5: I have some of the weirdest I don't even know
Speaker 5: where the information comes from, stuff that you will find
Speaker 5: a notebook, and I have a lot of a lot
Speaker 5: inside of me.
Speaker 1: Have you experienced any suppression or pushback from the medical
Speaker 1: industry once you started discussing the benefits of this?
Speaker 5: You know, the biggest pushback I get her from. I
Speaker 5: hate to say this, but this is the truth is
Speaker 5: the people who sell these type of Chinese products, because
Speaker 5: I mean people buy them from China and they can
Speaker 5: put anybody's name on it. You know, they can literally
Speaker 5: slap the name of their companies, and I only share
Speaker 5: what I personally use. That was the deal that I
Speaker 5: quote unquote made with myself, between me and my creator,
Speaker 5: you know, because I was like, look.
Speaker 3: If you show me the way.
Speaker 5: To transform this body and come back from this crazy
Speaker 5: medical problems, that I have, you know, then I promise
Speaker 5: I'll share them, and so everything that I share is
Speaker 5: just what I personally use. So I have been offered
Speaker 5: a lot of money, then he full disclosure. I've been
Speaker 5: offered a lot of money from numerous hydrogen companies and
Speaker 5: water filtration companies and supplement companies. I mean, obviously, you
Speaker 5: know they see my channel, and I turned down basically
Speaker 5: almost all of them except for the ones that I use.
Speaker 5: And the biggest thing that, in my opinion, that I've
Speaker 5: used for transforming my health is just clean water, clean hydrogen,
Speaker 5: and beyond that, just eating a little more cleanly, making
Speaker 5: sure I'm getting all my nutrients and minerals, you know.
Speaker 3: Some kind of basic stuff. But one of the.
Speaker 5: Really great examples, I thought it was a great example.
Speaker 5: I remember when my father said, look, I don't want
Speaker 5: to transform my diet.
Speaker 3: I don't want to stop eating cheeseburgers and French fries.
Speaker 5: You know, he didn't want to change anything, honestly, and
Speaker 5: he said, the one thing I'll do, he goes, I
Speaker 5: will drink that clean water. So I got on a
Speaker 5: carbon distiller and he goes, and I'll put that hydrogen
Speaker 5: in the water. So I got him is and just naw,
Speaker 5: he didn't change it anything else, just that all those
Speaker 5: medical issues from you know, the arthritis to the diabetes,
Speaker 5: to the glackoma, all all the different things, they.
Speaker 3: All went away.
Speaker 5: And I'm very impressed by that because I thought he'd
Speaker 5: have to do a combination, and I still do. I
Speaker 5: think it depends on the severity of your medical issues.
Speaker 5: But you know, but I have seen hydrogen just on
Speaker 5: its own do the most i mean literally the most
Speaker 5: amazing things. It's it's literally borderline hard to believe. And
Speaker 5: I understand why it's hard to believe because I feel
Speaker 5: I've been duped numerous times.
Speaker 3: I had to.
Speaker 5: Try, as you can imagine, numerous different diets, numerous different
Speaker 5: supplements and machines to overcome my medical issues, and it
Speaker 5: was just really frustrating, you know, to be quite honest
Speaker 5: with you, because I just wanted some truth.
Speaker 1: You know, And so maybe you could share some of
Speaker 1: people's experiences with hydrogen, what they've used it for. Success
Speaker 1: stories basically, Yeah.
Speaker 5: There's tons of them. I mean, I've seen from Okay,
Speaker 5: so Okay, here's one. There's this guy who smoked three
Speaker 5: packs of cigarettes a day for decades, I don't even
Speaker 5: remember how many years anymore.
Speaker 3: I think it was like thirty years or more.
Speaker 5: And he had a major problem with oxygen saturation in
Speaker 5: his blood. Now, can you can use oxygen, but asking
Speaker 5: a medical professional, you don't want to use oxygen for
Speaker 5: very long. It'll actually cause issues down the road because
Speaker 5: your body's adapting to extra oxygen that you're putting in,
Speaker 5: and your body will literally start making less red blood cells.
Speaker 5: What you kind of want to do, if you're going
Speaker 5: to do something like this, which is what pro athletes do,
Speaker 5: they actually go high altitude training, which is where you
Speaker 5: get less oxygen or sometimes they wear the masks to
Speaker 5: get less oxygen because they'll produce they'll get the body
Speaker 5: to produce more red blood cells.
Speaker 3: And then once you.
Speaker 5: Start breathing in just normal amounts of oxygen, which is
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one percent roughly in our atmosphere, you know,
Speaker 5: the body can utilize it real well. Well, this guy,
Speaker 5: he was supplementing oxygen, but his issues were just getting
Speaker 5: worse and worse and worse, to the point where he
Speaker 5: just couldn't get off the oxygen. He literally had to
Speaker 5: have it on all day long. He couldn't get off
Speaker 5: of it for even thirty seconds. It just ruined his life.
Speaker 5: And he got the hydrogen, start using the hydrogen, and
Speaker 5: sure enough his oxygen saturation levels.
Speaker 3: Because we're already getting oxygen.
Speaker 5: It's just a matter of making your body more efficient
Speaker 5: to be able to utilize that oxygen. Just like nutrients
Speaker 5: that we get from food, we want to be able
Speaker 5: to be efficient that absorbing those nutrients in the body
Speaker 5: to utilize them. So that was one example I've seen
Speaker 5: numerous Some of the other big ones. The big ones
Speaker 5: are like the Alzheimer's, dementia, traumatic brain injury, a lot
Speaker 5: of brain issues, or people who have like mental fog
Speaker 5: they don't remember things really well. I've seen a lot
Speaker 5: of amazing things in regards to that, which I wish
Speaker 5: that the medical establishment would realize that because in the
Speaker 5: world of medicines for dementia, there just really isn't any
Speaker 5: good ones actually, and they're already using literally this machine
Speaker 5: it's called the Hydrofix from the Holy Hydrogen Company.
Speaker 3: They are us. There's actually a.
Speaker 5: Special clinic in Japan that's doing a lot of research
Speaker 5: on Alzheimer's and dementia, and that's literally the number one
Speaker 5: device that they use One of the interesting things about
Speaker 5: hydrogen is that it also opens up ghost vessels. A
Speaker 5: lot of people probably won't realize how big of a
Speaker 5: deal that is, but it's a really, really big deal.
Speaker 5: We literally have like these blood vessels that don't get
Speaker 5: blood anymore. They're like a ghost town. And I think
Speaker 5: we all realize, and it's written in ancient scripture, excuse me,
Speaker 5: that life is in the blood, and so if you
Speaker 5: don't get blood somewhere, you're not gonna have Like typically,
Speaker 5: if you don't have proper blood supply, that area will die.
Speaker 5: Like if I put a rubber band around my arm,
Speaker 5: you know, my arm is going to turn purple and
Speaker 5: basically die if I'm not getting proper blood supply. But
Speaker 5: they realize that hydrogen appears to bring life. Here's where
Speaker 5: the spiritual aspect of hydrogen actually appears to be. It
Speaker 5: literally appears to bring life. Like if you were to
Speaker 5: have here's a crazy thing in Japan, if you were
Speaker 5: to have a stroke and you're not getting any blood
Speaker 5: supply to part of your brain, that part of the
Speaker 5: brain will literally start to die after roughly five minutes
Speaker 5: because it's now getting proper blood supply. And in Japan.
Speaker 5: They realize that if you inhale the hydrogen gas here's
Speaker 5: what the gas is different in the water, it will
Speaker 5: literally keep that area, it appears to keep that area
Speaker 5: of the brain alive with no blood cris. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you realized how big of a
Speaker 5: deal that is. That is game changing. And so this
Speaker 5: is a huge part of the things that hydrogen can
Speaker 5: do because I think that's why it has the anti
Speaker 5: aging effect. I think that's why like all this free
Speaker 5: radical damage. You know, a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 5: that a lot of these this oxidata stress is actually
Speaker 5: a form of oxygen. This is why I don't like
Speaker 5: to use a lot of oxygen. I tried oxygen supplementation
Speaker 5: when I was sick and honestly didn't really do much.
Speaker 3: For me because the oxidative stress.
Speaker 5: They realized, they they've based the Japanese basically said ninety
Speaker 5: seven to ninety eight percent of all disease comes down
Speaker 5: to oxidative stress. That's why hydrogen has such a profound
Speaker 5: effect on almost every single medical condition. Because oxidative stress,
Speaker 5: like ros reactive oxygen species, for example, it seems like
Speaker 5: a form of oxygen. Hydrogen comes in. It seems to
Speaker 5: have an affinity for oxygen, hence H two O, and
Speaker 5: it appears to neutralize this free radical damage just turns
Speaker 5: to water and then the body can function and run
Speaker 5: on all cylinders all over again, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Right right? And you said earlier that this is somewhat
Speaker 1: of a super antioxidant.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, very permeable antioxidant and selective too, so it
Speaker 5: doesn't just going indiscriminately the way that like vitamin C does,
Speaker 5: because you don't want to just remove all oxidative stress.
Speaker 5: Life ultimately is a is a dance. It's a balance
Speaker 5: a lot like men and women, yin and yang, positive
Speaker 5: and negative polarities, you know. So life is about balance,
Speaker 5: and ultimately, one the things that I learned about hydrogen is,
Speaker 5: in my opinion, hydrogen appears to be the ultimate balance bringer.
Speaker 5: So it brings balance, It brings homeostasis quote unquote back
Speaker 5: to the body. And so that's one of the beauties
Speaker 5: that I've seen of it.
Speaker 3: And how it.
Speaker 5: Affects everything, you know, from the mint nutrients and even
Speaker 5: the way that the cells talk to each other. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's unbelievable. I mean, we still don't even know exactly,
Speaker 5: Like I wish I could show you one of these studies.
Speaker 5: There was a study where they had these two boxes
Speaker 5: full of mice and they basically bombarded them with radiation,
Speaker 5: and one box had the mice had the hydrogen.
Speaker 3: The other ones didn't.
Speaker 5: And you could see clear as they You didn't even
Speaker 5: have to be a scientist to really understand the difference
Speaker 5: because the ones they weren't getting the hydrogen, their body
Speaker 5: temperatures were cold, which we should talk about that in
Speaker 5: a second. They were all puddled up together and they
Speaker 5: weren't very active. The other box, all the mice were
Speaker 5: running around a lot of energy. Body temperature was normal,
Speaker 5: and they were pooping and everything was you know, they
Speaker 5: were doing great, almost like nothing had happened. And the
Speaker 5: reason that I say to bring the body temperature into
Speaker 5: this is because the Japanese also discovered that almost every
Speaker 5: single cancer patient has a lower core body temperature than
Speaker 5: they're supposed to. They're realizing that there is a correlation
Speaker 5: between body temperature and disease, you know, medical problems, and
Speaker 5: one of the things that hydrogen appears to do. They
Speaker 5: learn this during thermoimaging studies that they were doing in Japan,
Speaker 5: specifically in the clinic that is working on Alzheimer's and
Speaker 5: dementia patients, and they realize that hydrogen increased core body temperature.
Speaker 5: This is why you see things like have you ever
Speaker 5: seen like a little kid and a diaper on a
Speaker 5: not very warm day just running around and maybe with
Speaker 5: the garden hose and the water is so cold, and
Speaker 5: they're fine, you know, their body are warm. Where you
Speaker 5: see an elderly person and it's like ninety degrees out
Speaker 5: and they're still cold, you know. And a lot of
Speaker 5: it has to do with the movement of the blood,
Speaker 5: you know, the blood flow, and so it's it's something
Speaker 5: that's very important, and hydrogen appears to have a positive
Speaker 5: effect on that.
Speaker 1: Also people with cancer have benefitted from this, I'm assuming.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there are studies already the show. I've
Speaker 5: seen a lot of stuff in regards to cancer. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's one of the things. Actually I didn't mention this part.
Speaker 5: I also one of the things that they did find
Speaker 5: when I went to do my Western medicine first before
Speaker 5: I started down my road, is.
Speaker 3: I did have tumors in my body.
Speaker 5: On top of all this, my tumors were made of
Speaker 5: they were basically what they call neurofibroma. So I literally
Speaker 5: had tumors growing in my nerves, which was one of
Speaker 5: the other issues about why I was in so much pain.
Speaker 5: But there are studies, and I could give you one example. Actually,
Speaker 5: there was a woman who had she was terminal, I mean,
Speaker 5: she had cancer. It was breast cancer, but it spread
Speaker 5: so much. They told her she had I believe, less
Speaker 5: than six months and they weren't even going to do
Speaker 5: any treatment, but she ended up saying, come on, do
Speaker 5: some treatment. This was a woman actually in Japan. And
Speaker 5: one of the interesting things is she was she started
Speaker 5: using the hydrogen and there are there's already research on
Speaker 5: this of using hydrogen while getting certain cancer treatments, which
Speaker 5: personally I wouldn't have done that, but that's what she did.
Speaker 5: Her cancer went away so fast. The doctors literally couldn't believe.
Speaker 5: They were like, this is supposed to be hearable, and
Speaker 5: your cancer just went away so quickly. And then on
Speaker 5: top of that, she's now been alive. I mean she
Speaker 5: only had six months or lesson I believe she's been
Speaker 5: alive enough for like seven years. I mean, she's totally
Speaker 5: beat the odds and there's numerous research in regards to
Speaker 5: hydrogen protecting you from the chemo or the radiation, but
Speaker 5: making the cancer respond quicker as far as it going away.
Speaker 3: Though. I've seen and this is important.
Speaker 5: This is my own opinion, and I won't name the
Speaker 5: name of the products, but I've also seen hydrogen mate
Speaker 5: incorrectly where it actually appears to accelerate cancer. And more recently,
Speaker 5: when I had this laboratory or reach out to me
Speaker 5: when they were lab testing some products, that's exactly what
Speaker 5: they saw. They saw some very strange things that were
Speaker 5: coming out of these It was a Chinese machine. Again,
Speaker 5: I won't name it, but all I'll say is that
Speaker 5: the lab tester was like, this stuff would cause cancer,
Speaker 5: and I said, this is exactly why it's so important
Speaker 5: to make hydegen properly. This is why I don't personally
Speaker 5: take hydrogen pills, or I don't do those little hydrogen
Speaker 5: bottles or anything with stainless steeler lye or sodium hydroxide.
Speaker 5: You know, I only use extremely high purity. Extremely high
Speaker 5: purity when it comes to medical gases is super important,
Speaker 5: and in the world of hydrogen, I don't see almost
Speaker 5: anybody talking about it and it's again really really really important.
Speaker 3: How you make it.
Speaker 1: Would you say a person of any age would be
Speaker 1: able to use this.
Speaker 5: If the hydrogen is made properly in my opinion, absolutely,
Speaker 5: If you're not making it properly, then no, please don't
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 3: I've seen people do it.
Speaker 5: I've seen pregnant women and women who give it to
Speaker 5: their little children. In fact, here's an a good example
Speaker 5: of why not. So this is this is a lab
Speaker 5: test on water, right, we were talking about it earlier. Who
Speaker 5: do you think that the contaminants and water affect.
Speaker 1: The most children?
Speaker 5: Yeah, babies and little kids because their livers and their
Speaker 5: kidneys are not fully developed, and so purity is very
Speaker 5: important for kids, and so I don't think it's any
Speaker 5: different for hydrogen gas, you know, in my opinion, and
Speaker 5: the stuff that they find in the water. I mean,
Speaker 5: I didn't even know they had radioactive contaminants in water.
Speaker 5: That was a shocker to me. I didn't know that
Speaker 5: we could filter them out either through this process, which
Speaker 5: again is not very expensive from the my purewater dot
Speaker 5: com website. And then of course learning about bacteria, parasites,
Speaker 5: viruses in the water is another crazy thing. So I
Speaker 5: really became honestly quite a water expert. I looked at
Speaker 5: all the data, and I filter my water specific way,
Speaker 5: I make my hydrogen a specific way, and then I
Speaker 5: just lived my life a specific way and it transformed
Speaker 5: my life. I got my life back, which was huge.
Speaker 5: I was I was crushed. Brother, I was so depressed
Speaker 5: and my life was over.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was bedridden and you know, there wasn't
Speaker 3: anything I could do, and it was a heartbreaker. And
Speaker 3: being in a lot of pain kind of messes with
Speaker 3: your head. After a while, It's kind of like torture.
Speaker 5: You know, it'll just up in time, and I certainly
Speaker 5: went through that, and so.
Speaker 1: So you believe that the hydrogen may have also triggered
Speaker 1: some spiritual experiences for you also have others reported this
Speaker 1: as well?
Speaker 5: A few people because a lot of there haven't been
Speaker 5: a lot of people who have been on hydrogen as
Speaker 5: long as I have and doing it the right way.
Speaker 5: I've seen people who have taken, for example, hydrogen pills
Speaker 5: for a long time, use cheaper products or just products
Speaker 5: that in my opinion, aren't very good. But I've never
Speaker 5: seen anybody really do a long term like I have.
Speaker 5: There was only a few people that I personally know,
Speaker 5: and they were having extremely similar effects. But they've been
Speaker 5: on the hydrogen for maybe more like two years, where
Speaker 5: I think I've been on it at this point, like
Speaker 5: I don't know, like doing it properly, properly, probably about
Speaker 5: seven years is how long I've been on it. But
Speaker 5: I was messing around with different devices, like, for example,
Speaker 5: like the Canan machine, which in my opinion, completely the
Speaker 5: wrong way to do hydrogen. I tried so many other
Speaker 5: devices and never got the results, and I was really
Speaker 5: confused about that. And then in time I really clearly
Speaker 5: realized how you're supposed to make.
Speaker 3: It and use it, and then that just changed everything.
Speaker 5: And like I said, the spiritual aspect, I also think
Speaker 5: that the spiritual aspect comes from, yes, the hydrogen, but
Speaker 5: the purity of your blood. So that's a big thing
Speaker 5: that I've also been tackling, is the purity, trying to
Speaker 5: overcome any chemicals, you know, pesticides, microplastics, and parasites too,
Speaker 5: So I also became quite an expert in parasites. The
Speaker 5: Japanese have literally unbelievable research when it comes to how
Speaker 5: sites working. It's nuts. The things that they do to
Speaker 5: the human body are just bonkers. So I did all
Speaker 5: these things not expecting a spiritual experience, and then I
Speaker 5: started having these just really they were such wild things
Speaker 5: that I literally was hesitant to talk about them because
Speaker 5: of the things that I've seen and experience and their borderline,
Speaker 5: like are we talking aliens here, like beings of light
Speaker 5: from other places, or are we talking like spiritual kind
Speaker 5: of quote unquote on a religious level. The things that
Speaker 5: I that have been shared with me have been I mean,
Speaker 5: I have a whole book inside of me, not just
Speaker 5: a book, I have a whole.
Speaker 3: Library inside of me.
Speaker 5: I've been getting these quote unquote downloads for quite a
Speaker 5: few years now, and they've been they've been really ramping
Speaker 5: up lately for like the last gosh, I would just
Speaker 5: say the last three months. The last three months, I
Speaker 5: mean I got I got a whole different view of
Speaker 5: a human history than is written in any book, almost
Speaker 5: though there are bits and pieces in a lot of
Speaker 5: these kind of ancient books and tablets. In fact, it
Speaker 5: was one of the reasons I was actually interested in
Speaker 5: sharing some stuff with Billy Carson, because I think that
Speaker 5: some of our information really really comes together, and I
Speaker 5: think that we could really potentially bring out something that
Speaker 5: would really change things. I mean, I've literally gotten some
Speaker 5: weird messages in regards to things we can do for
Speaker 5: the body, Like I literally want to build a device.
Speaker 5: So there's a device that came to me. This has
Speaker 5: been over a year ago now that supposedly, and this
Speaker 5: is a pretty bold statement, and I want to be
Speaker 5: real cautious about what I say of basically a device
Speaker 5: that could potentially make all medical conditions go away, but
Speaker 5: even take it a step further, can literally make the
Speaker 5: body young again. So we're talking about entering this device
Speaker 5: being eighty years old and coming out like you're twenty again.
Speaker 5: And I actually talked to a UCLA scientist about it,
Speaker 5: because there's a guy who knows me, and he's like,
Speaker 5: why don't you talk to this UCLA guy. I believe
Speaker 5: he's a doctor and a scientist. And the guy who
Speaker 5: knew me was like, I have a really hard time
Speaker 5: believing that this device that you're thinking about will do
Speaker 5: the things that you think he'll do. So I talked
Speaker 5: to this UCLA guy, and I actually was able to
Speaker 5: compile data that really supported you know, the hypothesis, the
Speaker 5: theory here. And then he was only supposed to give
Speaker 5: you like five minutes. We were supposed to have a
Speaker 5: brief conversation. That conversation turned into like two and a
Speaker 5: half hours or something crazy, and by we're done, the
Speaker 5: guy was like, this is crazy, but I actually think
Speaker 5: this might actually work, because this is nuts the fact
Speaker 5: that nobody's ever thought about it, and it is I mean,
Speaker 5: I'll just give a clue, but I won't talk too
Speaker 5: much about it, but it is something that is happening
Speaker 5: in nature. We just nobody realized it. That's why I
Speaker 5: was able to pull data from different places that basically
Speaker 5: showed that in theory, I'm technically right. And I do
Speaker 5: believe that the people who built, for example, the Giza
Speaker 5: pairmid they knew about it.
Speaker 3: And I won't go into why just yet.
Speaker 5: I'll just say that it seems pretty obvious that they
Speaker 5: knew this design or the way that it's all about
Speaker 5: how the human body works. Actually, so it's like it's
Speaker 5: almost like a trick or you're hacking the body. And
Speaker 5: I don't even think it's a hack. I think it's
Speaker 5: just understanding how things work and we've forgotten. That's the
Speaker 5: biggest thing that is happening with me is that I
Speaker 5: realize now that I was in a state of amnesia,
Speaker 5: things just keep coming to me. It's like a river
Speaker 5: of information, and the hydrogen has done something to my brain,
Speaker 5: you know, and the amount of things that I could
Speaker 5: go on in quite a bit of detail too, But
Speaker 5: so I don't know if that answers your question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right on.
Speaker 1: You mentioned parasites, and this is something that even recently,
Speaker 1: more and more research is coming out about how parasites
Speaker 1: can be fundamentally the cause of a lot of illnesses
Speaker 1: in humans. Do you think hydrogen will have an effect
Speaker 1: on killing parasites?
Speaker 3: Absolute?
Speaker 5: And so, personally, here's the thing about parasites. Parasites are
Speaker 5: not just like one. There's not just one. The best
Speaker 5: example that the average person will understand is when you
Speaker 5: compare them to bacteria. So let's say you have an infection.
Speaker 5: A doctor doesn't just give you any antibiotics. They do
Speaker 5: specific antibiotics based on the bacterial infection that they believe
Speaker 5: you may have. And of course there's wide spectrum antibiotics two.
Speaker 5: But so the parasites are the same thing. Not every
Speaker 5: anti parasitic is going to work on every parasite. Okay,
Speaker 5: So what I personally do is I go after it
Speaker 5: from many different angles from the food I consume. So
Speaker 5: the food I consume is highly anti parasitic. So that's
Speaker 5: something that I do. I also take anti parasitics, but
Speaker 5: not all the time. I do them every one to
Speaker 5: three years to keep my parasite numbers low. But the
Speaker 5: beauty about hydrogen is nobody thought really that of it
Speaker 5: as an anti parasitic.
Speaker 3: But I found a.
Speaker 5: Study where it literally showed that when you're using hydrogen,
Speaker 5: they found all these parasites, for example, in the liver,
Speaker 5: and the hydrogen appear to lower the amount of parasites
Speaker 5: quite a bit in the liver.
Speaker 3: And so I.
Speaker 5: Believe that using it regularly because you have to understand nature. Again,
Speaker 5: you always have to understand nature to understand what direction
Speaker 5: you want to go. So one of the things about
Speaker 5: nature is I believe the parasites are there for a reason.
Speaker 5: They have a function, They have a purpose by the Creator.
Speaker 5: If you make your body your temple a certain way,
Speaker 5: the parasites won't even want to be in there. I
Speaker 5: believe what the hydrogen is doing. I don't think it's
Speaker 5: killing the parasites. I think it's creating an environment where
Speaker 5: they just don't want to be there or don't need
Speaker 5: to be there, so they take off, and that's why
Speaker 5: the numbers end up being so much lower. And parasites
Speaker 5: really interfere with the way that we think, the way
Speaker 5: that we feel. And remember, here's just a few things
Speaker 5: that parasites, in my opinion, are doing to your body. One,
Speaker 5: remember how we talked about nutritional deficiencies. Yep, one of
Speaker 5: the things that parasites do is they tend to eat
Speaker 5: a lot of your nutrients before you really are getting them,
Speaker 5: so they're just going to make nutritional difference.
Speaker 3: Worse, they hang out all over your body.
Speaker 5: They love to be in your GI system, but they're
Speaker 5: actually growing at there's different stages of their growth and
Speaker 5: they're all over the place from your GI system to
Speaker 5: the tissue of your skin to even in your lungs.
Speaker 5: By the way, you literally have most likely most people
Speaker 5: have eggs in their lungs. So even though they take
Speaker 5: an anti parasitic or try to deworm, they don't realize
Speaker 5: and I realized this from the Japanese research that parasites
Speaker 5: have a like a typically a three month cycle of life.
Speaker 5: So if you take some dworm for a week, or two.
Speaker 3: Now you better know what you're doing. Please.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm not giving medical advice because I
Speaker 5: want to do it the wrong way. And believe me,
Speaker 5: you don't want to do it the wrong way. You
Speaker 5: don't want to make these parasites stronger. You want to
Speaker 5: make sure you do it the right way. And I
Speaker 5: do consults with people if they want to do them.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing. I have a three a four
Speaker 5: month protocol when I do my parasite senses. And that's
Speaker 5: another one where I had literally a very very spiritual
Speaker 5: experience also which shocked me. I did not expect the
Speaker 5: things to happen. Again, the more that I clean my body,
Speaker 5: there's so much garbage, you know, in there. And I
Speaker 5: believe it's actually by design. I believe that that somebody
Speaker 5: designed everything to be this way because they don't want
Speaker 5: us thinking clearly, they don't want us to know who
Speaker 5: we are. They don't want us they want us to
Speaker 5: be confused. They want to dictate, you know, what we
Speaker 5: should do with our lives or what we should believe.
Speaker 5: But once you start having access, even access to source,
Speaker 5: which I was lucky enough, I believe I'm one of
Speaker 5: the probably very few people on the planet who've ever
Speaker 5: literally been able to see it and experience it. Some
Speaker 5: people might call it God, but man, it's unbelievable. I mean,
Speaker 5: and it's all sitting there. What's really weird is I
Speaker 5: couldn't find it in any book, and then eventually I
Speaker 5: just kind of stumbled upon it. It was in this book.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you've ever seen or heard of
Speaker 5: this book. It's called the Essene Gospel of Peace. But
Speaker 5: the wild is the reason that I had such a
Speaker 5: I kind of had a hard time with the experience
Speaker 5: was because.
Speaker 3: I couldn't find it anywhere.
Speaker 5: Nobody had ever had the same experience, nobody had written down.
Speaker 5: I'd never seen it in the book. I mean, we're
Speaker 5: talking a lot of books. I read a lot, and
Speaker 5: then this one I just stumbled upon it by accident,
Speaker 5: and literally just the last three pages described exactly what
Speaker 5: I saw and heard and experienced, and.
Speaker 3: It blew my mind. That's why I used this book.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of techniques in here for health, and
Speaker 5: I actually used a lot of the techniques in this
Speaker 5: book for overcoming my medical conditions, as far as quote
Speaker 5: unquote the way I eat. So again, I observed nature
Speaker 5: I look at the science, I do critical thinking, and
Speaker 5: then of course I do trial and aeron. I've done
Speaker 5: all these different testing on my well to try to
Speaker 5: figure this all out, and it's just been a.
Speaker 1: Wild Well, we've got a few minutes left. I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear about that spiritual experience if you could tell us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one would probably be a little long. I
Speaker 5: can tell you that I was able to go to
Speaker 5: the other side, So there's a technique. It kind of
Speaker 5: happened by accident the first time. And then of course
Speaker 5: these things have been rushing to me because once you
Speaker 5: go to the other side. So here's what's kind of
Speaker 5: I'll give you a little example, a little taste of
Speaker 5: what happened to me. Well, there is like different stages,
Speaker 5: almost like different rooms in a house or whatnot. And
Speaker 5: I would go through different stages and each stage would
Speaker 5: take me deeper and deeper.
Speaker 1: Were you or in a sleep state.
Speaker 3: I was meditating.
Speaker 5: Happened when I was so one of the techniques. I
Speaker 5: won't give all the details right now either. But there
Speaker 5: is a way to use water. So water is part
Speaker 5: of the technique to opening the door. So there's literally
Speaker 5: doors and the doors are made of hydrogen, and so
Speaker 5: I went through more than one door. So for example, okay,
Speaker 5: so you know that we have the flesh body, right,
Speaker 5: but we also do have a spirit body. And I
Speaker 5: say this because I've seen it, so I'm not talking
Speaker 5: about something I read. I mean, I literally experienced this.
Speaker 5: The spirit body has certain things that it can do
Speaker 5: as compared to the flesh body has certain things that
Speaker 5: it can do, and ultimately, merging them together, you can
Speaker 5: do things that are just nuts like that would be
Speaker 5: another conversation. But some of the stuff so far that
Speaker 5: we've seen, I say we because there were somebody. Luckily,
Speaker 5: thank god, somebody was with me who was able to
Speaker 5: witness this. So I seriously would have questioned my sanity
Speaker 5: if somebody went to have been there because what I
Speaker 5: was witnessing. Like I don't like using these words, but
Speaker 5: I'll use it for right now. Like quote unquote, I
Speaker 5: got to meet what people would call God, and luckily
Speaker 5: the person who ended up being there, they got to
Speaker 5: meet him too, So we were both there and I
Speaker 5: was literally looking over him like are you seeing what
Speaker 5: I'm seeing here? Are you hearing what I'm hearing? And
Speaker 5: it was given us visions too, so then I was like,
Speaker 5: are you what.
Speaker 3: Are you seeing? He was he was being given the
Speaker 3: exact same visions I was.
Speaker 5: Because the way this scene communicates, and this is what
Speaker 5: I mean, I should call it God because maybe it's
Speaker 5: I mean, it could be like an interdimensional alien.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: I really don't know, to be honest, and I didn't
Speaker 5: really want to put a name to it. But it
Speaker 5: was showing us a lot of things, conveying a lot
Speaker 5: of information, even taking me at one point back to
Speaker 5: this is really wild. So do you do you remember
Speaker 5: when you were in your mother's head?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 3: Right, the average person doesn't, right.
Speaker 5: I never did. Well, here's what's crazy. So this being
Speaker 5: somehow forget time and space. It took me back to
Speaker 5: that moment in time when I was a baby inside
Speaker 5: my mother and I was literally there, and I realized, now,
Speaker 5: why we don't remember, it's because the human body is
Speaker 5: not fully developed yet. So your brain is not fully developed.
Speaker 5: You don't really have these memories, you know. This is
Speaker 5: why when you're really little, you don't. You haven't developed
Speaker 5: all these memories yet until you start growing older. Right,
Speaker 5: And but your spirit or this other alternative light body
Speaker 5: that we also have, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna call it spirit. The spirit holds all those
Speaker 5: memories from before you were born, and after you leave,
Speaker 5: you take you know, you take the stuff with you.
Speaker 5: The spirit was there the whole time that you were
Speaker 5: this baby, and so it took me back to this
Speaker 5: moment and I could feel everything when I was a
Speaker 5: little baby inside my mother, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, wow, it just changed. It actually changed my.
Speaker 5: Perspective on a lot of things because I was at
Speaker 5: the most piece I've ever experienced when I was a baby.
Speaker 5: But yeah, i'd forgotten. I didn't remember. So somehow this
Speaker 5: thing necked me to the source of memories. And this
Speaker 5: is why, somehow it just keeps happening. I have like
Speaker 5: a story almost unfolding of history, like to answer questions
Speaker 5: that I hate to say it, but like almost nobody's
Speaker 5: been able to answer. You know, as humans, we have
Speaker 5: so many questions about you know, where we came from.
Speaker 3: Where is quote.
Speaker 5: Unquote God in all this, or potentially aliens or what
Speaker 5: they call the watcher. I mean, there's so much information,
Speaker 5: and then of course understanding the human body, which is
Speaker 5: really my original goal.
Speaker 3: I just wanted my body. I just wanted to be
Speaker 3: able to talk.
Speaker 5: Again, really, you know, and not being so, but yes,
Speaker 5: it's it's a type of meditative state, and it has
Speaker 5: everything to do. This is what's interesting too. You know
Speaker 5: what really opens the door. I'll give you one secret
Speaker 5: is this word right here. You can even see it,
Speaker 5: but basically it says peace.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the way that your brain works, and how that
Speaker 5: affects your breath, and how that affects your heart, and
Speaker 5: that affects the movement of the water that is basically
Speaker 5: in your veins, because your veins, your blood moves like
Speaker 5: a river by the way, you know, and all this
Speaker 5: that's off this almost like reaction because ultimately, what you're
Speaker 5: trying to do is put your body in an ultimate
Speaker 5: place of peace so that you can actually your light
Speaker 5: body begins to come forth. But first you got to
Speaker 5: go through a stage of darkness. So that's the really
Speaker 5: that's probably the most freaky part. I don't think. I
Speaker 5: think the average person would have a little bit of
Speaker 5: a tough time because you have to go through some
Speaker 5: pretty scary stuff. It reminds me of a verse in
Speaker 5: scripture that as I walk through the valley of the
Speaker 5: shadow of Death, I will fear no evil, and that's
Speaker 5: exactly what you have to do. You end up going
Speaker 5: through death. That's ultimately the path it and it took
Speaker 5: a while and you have to be and there's a
Speaker 5: lot of temptation there.
Speaker 3: And eventually I witnessed my own, my own death.
Speaker 5: And then once I went through that process, there was
Speaker 5: this burst of light and there was actually a being
Speaker 5: of light waiting for me on the other side, and
Speaker 5: then that was super wild. I had a lot of
Speaker 5: questions and she was wonderful, and then eventually she took
Speaker 5: my hand, and then that's when we left planet Earth.
Speaker 5: And then we went and that's when I realized that
Speaker 5: the stars are actually doorways, they're portals. They're actually they're
Speaker 5: portals for the soul, so they truly are what we
Speaker 5: would call a star gate gate really means a door,
Speaker 5: So the stars are actually doors. And she took me
Speaker 5: and I would have never been able to do it
Speaker 5: without her, because I don't understand the way the universe works.
Speaker 3: I don't know which star leads to where and where
Speaker 3: we're going. I didn't know any of it. And she
Speaker 3: actually tests you. Here's a really weird thing.
Speaker 5: She tests your heart. So when you're on the other side,
Speaker 5: you're naked. And when I say naked, I don't mean
Speaker 5: like without clothing. I mean like your heart's totally boats.
Speaker 5: Everything is there. You can't hide you know, the truth
Speaker 5: your you know, your heart is run and center and
Speaker 5: they can see everything. And then once that happened, she
Speaker 5: took me through the first portal, and boy, we started
Speaker 5: traveling at crazy speeds and then we would arrived to
Speaker 5: another one and then from there, boom, we'd go a
Speaker 5: whole different direction. And I mean we traveled through the stars,
Speaker 5: super crazy distances. I mean, I don't even know how far,
Speaker 5: but it's way beyond Mars. I mean we were we
Speaker 5: were way the heck outter. You coudn't even see planet
Speaker 5: Earth anymore. And you know, there was a little bit
Speaker 5: of fear, thinking like I never thought I'd come back
Speaker 5: to my body, and I start realizing that there is
Speaker 5: a way. But as we went deeper, there were more beings.
Speaker 5: So there are other beings that I did get to
Speaker 5: talk to and and spend time with, and then they
Speaker 5: would open. You know, there's almost like doors as you
Speaker 5: went and you were allowed in, you know, depending on
Speaker 5: your heart actually, of all things heart, whether you were.
Speaker 3: Allowed in or not.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's incredible man. I'm definitely going to have to
Speaker 1: have you back on to explore some of these experiences.
Speaker 1: They're fascinating. And thank you so much for sharing this
Speaker 1: information about hydrogen. If people are interested in finding out more,
Speaker 1: what's the best way that they can do? So your website,
Speaker 1: anything else you got out there, all right, And before.
Speaker 5: I share that, I just want to say one thing.
Speaker 5: Everybody understands it. I want it to be really clear.
Speaker 5: Everybody can do what I was talking about. One thing
Speaker 5: that was shown to me on the other side is
Speaker 5: that we're all destined for it. We're all designed for it.
Speaker 5: There is everybody has the ability to do it. So
Speaker 5: it's not like somebody can try to exalt themselves above
Speaker 5: others and be like, oh, you know, I'm special and
Speaker 5: I get to Everybody can do it. And that was
Speaker 5: shown very very clearly to me, and ironically it was
Speaker 5: written in this book too. So the book that I
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Speaker 5: important thing to me. But anyway, to answer your other question,
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