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<v Speaker 1>Tell me ye, Roger, then I so fantasy sat in

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<v Speaker 1>the real history.

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<v Speaker 2>Then tell me by.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect flexes to spinning gum and he can't get ever

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<v Speaker 3>so perfectly. Today we're talking about mister Perfect here on

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<v Speaker 3>the Golden Era Podcast with Shaw Mooney.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing today, I'm doing great, Steve. It's funny

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<v Speaker 2>that you started that with the whole thing with the gum,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's like the first thing I when I was

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<v Speaker 2>watching some of the video and I thought that was, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>such a kirt thing to do, because he was always

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<v Speaker 2>chewing gum. And then he started doing thing when he

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<v Speaker 2>got in the ring, and he would like spin it

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<v Speaker 2>out and bat it into the crowd, Like what you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine you're out there, Oh I got mister perfect gum.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna ask you that you imagine someone's like, listen, Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 3>I have the gum, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my own gum story. Anyway, but we'll get to.

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<v Speaker 4>That amazing here.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was always very intrigued by mister because honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>he would throw a pen in the air, he'd catch it,

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<v Speaker 3>He'd throw the gum in the air, he'd swatt it,

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<v Speaker 3>he'd throw a towel in the air, Bobby would catch it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was never a moment unless it was edited for

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<v Speaker 3>TV reasons, and it seemed like he wasn't being perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>Now for you, before we get into his career, I

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<v Speaker 4>really want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about his personal relationship with you, because mister Perfect

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those people everyone keeps talking about. But

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<v Speaker 3>for you, what did mister Perfect mean to you personally?

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<v Speaker 3>Kurt Henning?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I've mentioned it many many times. Kurt was

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite people there there. I had a few,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, Kurt was just such a good guy

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<v Speaker 2>and Master River, you know, that's that kind of was

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<v Speaker 2>his you know, it followed him everywhere because he loved

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<v Speaker 2>doing ribs and some of them went a little far,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, and when you just got one on

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<v Speaker 2>one with the guy, he was always like really interested

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<v Speaker 2>in what you were up to. He would come into

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<v Speaker 2>the studio and hang out when I'd be doing the

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<v Speaker 2>event center. He used to come in a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>do promo stuff, you know, during the time when he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the ring as much, And so I got

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<v Speaker 2>to know him pretty well, and he was just you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody at that at that level and and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really take the time that genuinely was you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>just cool, you know, like this would come in and

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<v Speaker 2>just bullshit about whatever. And I also got to know

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<v Speaker 2>his dad. I got to know Larry a bit because

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<v Speaker 2>he would come to the events and was just always

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<v Speaker 2>really complimentary to me. And I don't know why, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wasn't I wasn't one of the boys.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, but he would always he really liked what

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<v Speaker 2>I did. And so in a sense there he got

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<v Speaker 2>to a little you know, I got to find out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what where how this all happen, happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>and Larry was, you know, just a really solid, you

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<v Speaker 2>know guy that you know, had had this tremendous career

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<v Speaker 2>and and very much old school and you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>growing up in Minnesota. And I'm sure you've heard about

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<v Speaker 2>Robbinsdale High School, which was this uh you know, turned

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<v Speaker 2>out to be this reading ground for some of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest professional wrestlers ever and and and during that era

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<v Speaker 2>and and it makes sense, but you know people are

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<v Speaker 2>so and Rick rude and uh, you know, all these

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<v Speaker 2>guys came from there at the same time that during

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, they're all within a fewer you know,

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<v Speaker 2>five or six years of each other. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, the a w A was there and

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<v Speaker 2>all a lot of these wrestlers, these old school wrestler

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<v Speaker 2>guys kids went to went to the school and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they had an incredible athletic program there, as

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<v Speaker 2>you can imagine, because these guys are all great athletes

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<v Speaker 2>and Kurt was among them. He could do everything well

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<v Speaker 2>and as we know with the Moniker and Bruce Pritcher

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<v Speaker 2>tells the story of how they you know, came to

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of him becoming mister Perfect. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt was just really a great athlete and really excelled

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<v Speaker 2>at as an amateur wrestler. And his dad, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talks about Larry talks about early on that he could

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<v Speaker 2>see that and and that was his passion from the

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<v Speaker 2>time he was a kid. And I'm sure it had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to do with the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 2>just around the business so much and that's what his

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<v Speaker 2>father did. But that that solid upbringing and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that family you could just tell, you know that

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<v Speaker 2>it was all about family to him, and these strong

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<v Speaker 2>ties that he had with these guys his entire life,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just made him who he was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>just very down to earth. You know. He later in

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<v Speaker 2>his career there he you know, he became really great

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<v Speaker 2>friends with Wade Box, the great baseball player that was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he inducted him into the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know Wade was one of those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guys too, uh and attracted to each other in

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<v Speaker 2>that sense. You know, they were like to hunt and

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. But I'm the point of it

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<v Speaker 2>being is he was just like this down to earth

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<v Speaker 2>got all the fame and everything that came with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the money and everything like that, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>just when it all came down to it. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt was just a really genuine guy. You got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got what he was, always who he was. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got what you got with him. It wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>anything didn't big time you because he was around certain

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<v Speaker 2>people at any time he saw you at any of that,

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<v Speaker 2>he had come over, you know, backstage, whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wouldn't just comit and do his his interviews

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<v Speaker 2>and then blow out of there. He was just always

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<v Speaker 2>in a in a great mood, always kidding around. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever remember, I'm sure there were dark times, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, most of the time that I spent with him,

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<v Speaker 2>it was you know, it was just awesome. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just it was like kind of like a big brother

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like to me in a sense that I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like that when you're around.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, that's awesome to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because so many stories of wrestlers being either rude

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<v Speaker 3>or just coming to work and leaving. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>he was having a good time while at work with

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<v Speaker 3>especially it seems like with you, because you know he's

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<v Speaker 3>one of your favorites in any interaction on camera, it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, shut up Mooney as.

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<v Speaker 3>A classic line that a lot of people used on you,

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<v Speaker 3>but perfect he did it with a extra love, extra love,

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<v Speaker 3>it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>Look and well we've talked about that before too, like

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<v Speaker 2>what you know, like Bobby would say who who, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was what's how they they? If they put you over,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know they liked you. They didn't you were

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<v Speaker 2>in good favor with them in a sense. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the stuff like with with Kurt saying your

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<v Speaker 2>shut up mooney or even you know, putting your name

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<v Speaker 2>over just that was just that little sense of letting

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<v Speaker 2>you know, putting you over and uh, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the way Kurt was.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome because again he is brought up so many

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<v Speaker 3>different times as being one of the greatest of all times.

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll get into that discussion later on in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>But the story, the myth of him coming into the WWF.

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<v Speaker 4>Interviews and all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But he brings his father, does a sit down with

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<v Speaker 3>Vince and they're talking about what are you good at?

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're trying to come with names for this guy,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you good at? And he's I'm pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>at everything. But the myth about this is Terry Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>is also going to be signed to the ww at

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<v Speaker 3>the time. And one wrestler gets this perfect gimmick. He's

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<v Speaker 3>the best at everything, dart, wrestling, bowling, baseball. The guy

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<v Speaker 3>gets turned into a half rooster man the red Rooster.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you were there, Can you clarify if there's any

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<v Speaker 3>truth to these two wrestlers coming in. These gimmicks are

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<v Speaker 3>already made, but they don't know who they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have to I'll be honest here when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just looking through the notes and seeing that today that

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<v Speaker 2>you know there was considered to be Terry Taylor is

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<v Speaker 2>considered to be mister perfect. I'm honest, the guy I

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<v Speaker 2>never ever ever heard that. I don't know where that

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<v Speaker 2>came from. If it was true, then maybe I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not something that I ever heard, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can't And we've talked about Terry before and he, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous talent. I don't think that you know, he ever

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<v Speaker 2>really got his chance in the in the w WE,

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<v Speaker 2>but if they would have considering, you know that him

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<v Speaker 2>as mister perfect compared to Kurt Headache. Now, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Kurt was an easy choice for that. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>gimmick wise. Both were great, you know, good ring tacticians,

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<v Speaker 2>but Kurt I certainly give the edge there. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever saw a match of his, you would I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'd agree if if he was in his peak condition,

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<v Speaker 2>when he wasn't dealing with a lot of the health

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<v Speaker 2>issues that he had a lot of the ailments that

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<v Speaker 2>dogged him for a good part of his career. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when it came down to you, like you said, they're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in that room and I would have loved to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that conversation because you know what, do you do.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, like the golf, basketball, and what's what

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<v Speaker 2>are your best at I'm like, I'm good at everything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just I can just hear him saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>and and and then that Perfect monitor Moniker was born,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh it certainly it played well. But as we

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people have talked about many times, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna have a gimmick like that get better,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be able to live up to it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And Kurt did I rove it off.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just so true because if you're perfect at everything

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<v Speaker 3>and you suck at the ring and then well, immediately

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<v Speaker 3>we start off on a bad foot.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 4>We were not doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>But they did a great job introducing him to the

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<v Speaker 3>WWF audience with vignettes.

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<v Speaker 4>We got baseball, hitting home runs, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>We got strikes, we get darts, we have swimming with everything.

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<v Speaker 4>But then I rewatched the midst of perfect documentary. In

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<v Speaker 4>my heart was shattered when Bruce Pritchard revealed that he

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<v Speaker 4>did not just hit home runs and strikes and hitting

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<v Speaker 4>the darts in the middle and swimming, No, those are

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<v Speaker 4>all edited now. He would eventually hit those moves or

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<v Speaker 4>hit that shot, but they it took like one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>takes to get him. I was sad when I on

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<v Speaker 4>that out today. Was this old when I found.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Well, well, I think you're exaggerating a little bit here, Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>Like hundreds of shots now no, and it was never

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<v Speaker 2>that many.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll say ten, yes, But I.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember, you know, and think about it. You know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that stuff was pretty crazy. But as Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>tells the story though, that you know that Kurt really

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<v Speaker 2>was really good at doing everything and and doing extraordinary things. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's like the baseball thing and he got

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<v Speaker 2>up there and he hit a he had a home run.

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<v Speaker 2>And Wade box telling the story because that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>think when they first started to had, you know, becoming friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and they wanted, well, we got to get a ballplayer

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<v Speaker 2>choice there and he said, well, you know, going there

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I thought that what they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>ball and it looked like it was a pretty good hit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they'd cut it and then they go back

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<v Speaker 2>to mister perfect and they go and he goes and

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<v Speaker 2>he hits he hit a home run. I mean, now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many people have done that, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's not easy to do. You got to

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<v Speaker 2>really get a smack a ball. But as Bruce tells

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<v Speaker 2>the story, though, you know that that you know, Kurt

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<v Speaker 2>action where it would he couldn't do it, And so

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<v Speaker 2>what he would do is he just wouldn't tell Kurt.

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<v Speaker 2>They would just roll on everything once they started, even

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<v Speaker 2>if he was practicing or whatever, which was because also

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Kurt would be messing around doing things between

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<v Speaker 2>would be kind of cool. Whether you know, like say,

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<v Speaker 2>for the example, with the golf ball or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>he would bounce the golf like Tiger Woods would do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and he would just be messing around, but

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<v Speaker 2>he had this you know, hand eye coordination or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>or he might do something the basketball, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>could they would just roll. And especially because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff was chance, you know that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're at the other end of the court completely

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<v Speaker 2>and you need to take a ball and do that

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<v Speaker 2>and in the general direction. Well maybe if you do

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<v Speaker 2>it a thousand times, you might do it, but he

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<v Speaker 2>might do it the you know, third or fourth time,

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<v Speaker 2>just because you know, messing around. So that was a

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<v Speaker 2>really that was a really good idea. But it also

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they didn't end up getting these little nuggets

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff that he was doing, and it would basically

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<v Speaker 2>be kind of an outtake, uh that they could use.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that was that was that was really smart

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<v Speaker 2>when they when they started doing that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do that was not easy to act, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to capture it on tape and be able to use it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like a forty foot putt or something like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you could be there for hours trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get it. You know, within a you know, get this close,

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<v Speaker 3>So now those are so much fun because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for a little while for introductions of characters, we only

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<v Speaker 3>saw this happen for a few people. Million Oile the

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<v Speaker 3>Man received these vignettes h a few people in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>But really this is like the beginning where the mounte

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<v Speaker 3>and suddenly you know, the bushwhackers get him and the

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<v Speaker 3>Nasty Boys and legit, everyone starts getting these vignettes introducing

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<v Speaker 3>people to the audience. It's it's a nice way because

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly those are pre tapes the Venture going to on

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<v Speaker 3>Superstars from Primetime and Wrestling Challenge that was shot a

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<v Speaker 3>month ago.

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<v Speaker 4>So in reality, that crowd has no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Who missed the Perfect is until those vignettes stopped playing

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<v Speaker 3>on television. I thought it was a perfect way to

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<v Speaker 3>introduce him to the audience. But he's a great talker,

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<v Speaker 3>He's incredible on the microphone. But yet they kept putting

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<v Speaker 3>managers with him. Is this just because this is the

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<v Speaker 3>time that everyone needs a manager? Or is it at

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<v Speaker 3>Vince maybe being worried. What do you mentally think why

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<v Speaker 3>that keeps happening?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I honestly, I look back that Kurt

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need one, and you know, quickly A note on

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<v Speaker 2>that you talk about those vignettes is they were brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>in a sense because as far as bring the character

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<v Speaker 2>before mister Perfect made his debut, everybody was already, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dying to see who this guy was, and they already

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<v Speaker 2>knew what he was all about, you know. Uh, it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was a great way to introduce these characters

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<v Speaker 2>so that when they did hit the ring, they were

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<v Speaker 2>already over or they're already had heat. And uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I I used to I thought those were brilliant, especially

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<v Speaker 2>with like the ones mister Purft. By the time that

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<v Speaker 2>Kurt actually, you know, made his debut, he already had

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<v Speaker 2>heat with people. You know that he didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>keep build it up in the ring and build it

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<v Speaker 2>up on TV every week for weeks and weeks and weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>He already had heat. And uh, you know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>a great way to do it. So anyway, that that

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you know, Kurt was you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>natural and he didn't need a manager. I I And

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, and I don't know if Lanny was first.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You got the genius, Bobby Heenan, then you got Coach.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll kind of break them all down right now

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit. But yeah, first the genius. Everyone hates

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<v Speaker 3>the genius, so you put him with anybody you hate

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<v Speaker 3>the wrestler. By the beginning, when mister Perfect first shows up,

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't have a manager.

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<v Speaker 4>He's wearing like classic just blue tights.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't have his his classic I have it right,

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<v Speaker 3>here his classic gear. He's not wearing this, He's wearing

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<v Speaker 3>blue tights, you know, the the underwear. But yeah, then

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<v Speaker 3>eventually he gets the genius and you're like, okay, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>but how does that in my brain fit?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, it didn't. And especially you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>loved Lanny, you know, and and I guess to give

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<v Speaker 2>him something to do, I don't know, they weren't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have big plans for him in the ring

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<v Speaker 2>as a you know, the solo thing going and would

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<v Speaker 2>come out and do the poems. But it was one

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<v Speaker 2>of those things where it just what what did that

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<v Speaker 2>add to the perfect character? It really didn't. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby might have made a little sense because Bobby is

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<v Speaker 2>a heat generator, you know, and just to turn it up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to eleven, But yeah, none of that made

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<v Speaker 2>And it didn't make any sense because I didn't Kurt

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need one. He was already a good which was

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<v Speaker 2>you could see in the the vignettes. So the idea

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<v Speaker 2>behind that really didn't make a whole lot of sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Bobby, Okay, I get it, you know, making

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Emily or whatever, you know, just to

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<v Speaker 2>it just helps turn up that heat. But Lanny, I honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I still don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's very shocking because again you see all these

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<v Speaker 3>vignettes him with charisma, hitting all these shots and bowling

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<v Speaker 3>and just everything he has got charisma, and then out

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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere again these managers are not in these vignettes

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<v Speaker 3>with him, so he's being introduced by himself.

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<v Speaker 4>When he shows up, he's by himself. He gets a genius.

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<v Speaker 3>But while he has the genius, he does start a

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<v Speaker 3>storyline with Hope Cogan, and this actually kicks off something

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<v Speaker 3>that's interesting because the genius holds a paint, not a

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<v Speaker 3>pinfall a win a w over Hult Cogan on an

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<v Speaker 3>episode of Saturday Night's the main Event by count out

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<v Speaker 3>because mister Perfect got involved. So in reality, congratulations genius,

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<v Speaker 3>you did it, sir. You beat Holt Cogand and the

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<v Speaker 3>height of Hulkemania because of mister Perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>So he can I guess he can say.

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<v Speaker 2>That in the W take, it doesn't matter how the

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<v Speaker 2>w got there, how it got there.

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<v Speaker 4>Nope, nope, not the asterisk, don't look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>But while mister Perfect does have a robbery with Hult Cogan,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna jump around, folks, We're not gonna stay.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not gonna go with the timeline here.

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<v Speaker 3>But with Hult Cogan, mister Perfect steals the w WF

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<v Speaker 3>championship from Hult Cogan. He brings it backstage and he

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<v Speaker 3>smashes it to pieces with a hammer. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>something I have never seen done before. What was the

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<v Speaker 3>thought of this? Because this is huge, Like someone's been

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<v Speaker 3>injuring Hulk Cogan over the years, big guys, but someone

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<v Speaker 3>has never taken his championship and smashed it into a

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<v Speaker 3>million pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, uh, and you just said it. I mean, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, never been done for how dare you? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean really And it was just an It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 2>an affront to Hulk Cogan. It was to uh that championship,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to the how dare you? But the arrogance

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<v Speaker 2>and uh that the confidence was what you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of shine through for that character. So I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was something that got people, was different and uh and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly raised the heat factor. I still, you know, wonder

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<v Speaker 2>why that that Kurt didn't get that opportunity though to

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<v Speaker 2>really wear that strap. It never never really happened, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if there was a real discussion

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But because I think that, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>certainly could stand toe to toe with someone like cul

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<v Speaker 2>Cogan and and have a good run.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, mister Perfect, he mister Burke's on a list.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime makes a top ten list of wrestlers who never

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<v Speaker 3>won the world title, mister Perfect is usually one or two.

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<v Speaker 4>Then know the man's up there as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I don't count him stealing it with double referee,

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<v Speaker 3>sorry folks, but with mister Perfect, he's on that list,

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<v Speaker 3>and with a robbery with whole Cogan in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 3>we are inching our way to WrestleMania six to have

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<v Speaker 3>Hogan take on Warrior. So obviously there's no time for

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect to get a championship and then flip it over.

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<v Speaker 3>So I but before we jump into why Kurt was

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<v Speaker 3>never a world champion, the rumor, as long as I

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<v Speaker 3>remember it was the smash WWF Championship was actually the

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<v Speaker 3>ww Hardcore Championship that Mankind was handed over to in

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<v Speaker 3>ninet tenty eight by Vince McMahon because it was all

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<v Speaker 3>smashed up, it was duct taped and had hardcore. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe that rumor up until I heard Bruce Pritchard kind

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<v Speaker 3>of say.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I don't think that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>What were your thoughts when you years later would abruptly

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<v Speaker 3>see attitude rad things and seeing like is that the

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<v Speaker 3>world title?

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<v Speaker 4>That perfect smashed?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That I feel the same way because it was well,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a great a separation of time there, like

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<v Speaker 2>you wonder like was it in back somewhere pull this

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<v Speaker 2>thing out again? Uh yeah, so uh that's and Bruce

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<v Speaker 2>is the source, I mean really he was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>there and uh uh so I got to go along

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<v Speaker 2>with that, you know, but it did make you wonder, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want to waste the belt or something. They're expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get another one, just get buy one and smash

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<v Speaker 3>a new one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But yeah, that and people that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting conversation to have with some of these people

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<v Speaker 2>that are are the officionados of of uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these championship belts and these collectors that you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure that that would if there was, If that was true,

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00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:51.240
<v Speaker 2>imagine the lore of that belt, you know, I think

421
00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:54.440
<v Speaker 2>in its condition whatever, it would be worth even more.

422
00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:58.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that was attached to it. So it's an

423
00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:03.839
<v Speaker 2>interesting Yeah, it's an interesting take, but yeah.

424
00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.759
<v Speaker 3>It was bizarre because also you could think that like, oh,

425
00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:07.680
<v Speaker 3>you're you're kind of in the edged era. You're saying,

426
00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:10.000
<v Speaker 3>like death to the wing Championship. We have a new

427
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.519
<v Speaker 3>world titles to Austin. You know, it's a so we're

428
00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:15.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of buryinging the old by giving man kind of

429
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.559
<v Speaker 3>fake hardcore title with the Winged Eagle title.

430
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:20.720
<v Speaker 4>So it's kind of like a slap in the face

431
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:21.160
<v Speaker 4>of the past.

432
00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.200
<v Speaker 3>But also like, hey, let's let's let's create some lore here,

433
00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.759
<v Speaker 3>because this is as long as I remember thinking like,

434
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 3>oh why because mister Perfect Smash is one here.

435
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.839
<v Speaker 4>You know, eight years later it's smashed.

436
00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 3>It is the same title, but I guess, you know,

437
00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:38.319
<v Speaker 3>we'll have to clarify it's not the Hardcourt Championship, but

438
00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:40.160
<v Speaker 3>mister Perfect smashing it.

439
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.599
<v Speaker 4>It's again, it's never been done before.

440
00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:43.759
<v Speaker 3>We still haven't seen that up until today, where someone

441
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:45.759
<v Speaker 3>takes someone else's champions. We've seen people throw them over

442
00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:48.200
<v Speaker 3>bridges and you know, try to blow them up and

443
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:51.000
<v Speaker 3>set them on fire, but we have never seen someone

444
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.440
<v Speaker 3>smash them. And it really I think established mister Perfect

445
00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:58.160
<v Speaker 3>as a player because no one won ups Hogan usually

446
00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.799
<v Speaker 3>you take the goal, big dude, like Earthquakes, you know,

447
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.160
<v Speaker 3>smushing you in the Brother Love show, there's Brother Love

448
00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:08.720
<v Speaker 3>right there, or Andre, you know, ripping the necklace off them,

449
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:13.039
<v Speaker 3>like there's just much more here to mister Perfect, Yes,

450
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.680
<v Speaker 3>call it, but I just want to say congratulations to

451
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 3>the Genius for beating Holk Kogan. Mister Perfect didn't do it,

452
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.960
<v Speaker 3>but the Genius did, so W call him there, W

453
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.720
<v Speaker 3>call him there? Uh though with mister Perfect in the Genius,

454
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.000
<v Speaker 3>they had a nice little run there. But as time

455
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.920
<v Speaker 3>would go on, mister Perfect heads into WrestleMania six nineteen

456
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:39.119
<v Speaker 3>ninety SkyDome Hogan Rust Warriors the main event, huge, huge night.

457
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:43.079
<v Speaker 3>But mister Perfect is undefeated heading into this, and mister

458
00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Perfect has a robberty with Brutus the barber Beefcake. Beefcake

459
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:49.680
<v Speaker 3>cut the Genius's hair at the Roy Rumble, and Perfect

460
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:51.079
<v Speaker 3>attacked him and we are.

461
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Off the races.

462
00:24:53.480 --> 00:25:01.720
<v Speaker 3>But Beefcake beats perfects undefeated. Now, if you don't know

463
00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 3>beef Cake's a friend of Hulk Hogan's, do you believe

464
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.559
<v Speaker 3>that Hogan said, you know what we should do. We

465
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 3>should beat mister Perfect, and it should be Beefcake because

466
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Hogan's not going to do it because he's off with Warrior.

467
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 4>After that, he comes back in Fight Earthquake.

468
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>So do you think Hogan got involved him was like, hey,

469
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:20.160
<v Speaker 3>my buddy should beat him.

470
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I think in most cases, and you know, I've had

471
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:35.640
<v Speaker 2>many conversations with Brutus and over the years, and yeah,

472
00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and I think he credits a lot of his success

473
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>in the w WE to his good friend. Fortunately they

474
00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:47.799
<v Speaker 2>didn't they had a you know, major falling out, and

475
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that ever really got mended. But I

476
00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.240
<v Speaker 2>think at the time, yeah, I think that that probably

477
00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:57.839
<v Speaker 2>had something to do with it. I also, you know,

478
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't help but wonder you know, what was you know,

479
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Kurt in the doghouse for something like that, or you know,

480
00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:10.279
<v Speaker 2>for a little punishment. I don't know, but it it

481
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.319
<v Speaker 2>shocked a lot of people. I mean, I don't think

482
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>anybody thought that that was going to happen. But that

483
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 2>was another thing they'd love to do too, Steve, is

484
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>that they would like to do the unexpected. You know,

485
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 2>they they that you would, you know, once in a while,

486
00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>just be able just to throw you off kilter, because

487
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.440
<v Speaker 2>everybody would you know, you would have you would think

488
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you'd follow the what you'd expect storyline. Of course, if

489
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>mister Perfect's gonna go in there and he's this arrogant

490
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>and he's undefeated, and you're gonna let someone like Brutus

491
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:47.119
<v Speaker 2>the Barbara Beefcake beat him, and I think they they'd

492
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 2>like to do that once in a while. And and

493
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and also it had something to do maybe they had

494
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:56.519
<v Speaker 2>some plans down the road, but maybe they for Brutus

495
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.759
<v Speaker 2>to and and Kurt to do something or bring the

496
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 2>connection of Hulk into it. I don't know, but uh,

497
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.039
<v Speaker 2>you know that one was tough to swallow. I think

498
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people were like, really, come on, what

499
00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 2>happened here? You know? And they like, we're still talking

500
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:16.519
<v Speaker 2>about it? So I think that, yeah, I think that

501
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 2>in most cases, whatever Brutus was involved in, the Hulkster

502
00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:25.200
<v Speaker 2>had a say in it and helped push him. But

503
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you know that that wasn't unusual in across the boarder

504
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.200
<v Speaker 2>just where you fell on the cart. You know, Randy

505
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of influence too, So you know, Lanny

506
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of opportunities to do things that and

507
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:44.759
<v Speaker 2>I've talked we've talked to before. You know, Lanny was

508
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>was it was good in the ring. I mean, I

509
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.440
<v Speaker 2>think you know, he he was a popo. They came up,

510
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, and but he wasn't that for whatever reason,

511
00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't have that marquis that that that charisma that was

512
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>going to put him at a higher level. And it

513
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 2>always helped to have a brother who was who was

514
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 2>in that position. So that wasn't that. That wasn't you know,

515
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>crazy to think that Dolkster wouldn't have had some influence.

516
00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>He had a lot of influence on what happened that

517
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:20.640
<v Speaker 2>in the company.

518
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you said that, because my first evidence here

519
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 3>for people who don't believe me with that question is

520
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 3>we go back to a rumble in nineteen ninety. The

521
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.319
<v Speaker 3>rumor is that mister Perfect supposed to win this Royal

522
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Rumble hol Cogan though you know Hogan must pose. So

523
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 3>Hogan is the one who ends up winning the nineteen

524
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 3>ninety Royal Rumble instead tossing out Perfect, which then leads

525
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.039
<v Speaker 3>to Perfect losing to Beefcake, which is Hogan's friend. So,

526
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 3>in reality, is the idea that fans wanted Perfect to

527
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 3>win the Royal Rumble and not hul Cogan or is

528
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.480
<v Speaker 3>this just people looking too deep into things because Hogan

529
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 3>is roll Rumble. Isn't something like where you get a

530
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 3>championship match. Hogan is the world champion. It we're in

531
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the height of Hulk Hogan. We're in the whole Holkamania.

532
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Like it's stupid to think anyone else would win besides

533
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Hogan at this point in time.

534
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like you said, it wasn't like there's so

535
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>much on the line and something like that. But it's

536
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>a great opportunity to put one of your your people over.

537
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>And and Kurt I don't remember what he entered and

538
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he was in there for a long time.

539
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't there was I can't remember. He was number entered

540
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.359
<v Speaker 2>number number thirty. Yeah, yeah, okay, so it was later, Yeah,

541
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:48.279
<v Speaker 2>does that. But uh, it was an opportunity I think

542
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to put him over more and and uh, for whatever reason,

543
00:29:55.319 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Hulkster has to win it. I I

544
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that if he squatched that idea, because

545
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>originally they were gonna put Kurt over. I don't know,

546
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I really don't. I don't know what what it came

547
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.039
<v Speaker 2>down to with that, but you can rest assured that

548
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>he'd Hulk would have had to write to sign off

549
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>on it for it to happen. So to say that

550
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.119
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have influence and it was ala Vince's decision,

551
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 2>I doubt it.

552
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's crazy because they do have the face to

553
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 3>face with Warrior and Hogan in the match, and then Warrior,

554
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, gets he's out, he gets out of the

555
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:33.920
<v Speaker 3>tossed out of the roy rumbole, and then Hogan could

556
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 3>have probably done the same thing.

557
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>We could have just kept equal footing.

558
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 3>And I'm just thinking politics wise, Hulk Hogan's like, well,

559
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 3>if I'm gonna lose it WrestleMania, I'm winning here, folks,

560
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:46.680
<v Speaker 3>because I'm gonna go in super strong. And so when

561
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 3>this just this me spitball that, I'm thinking Hogan, Hogan's

562
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>gonna win because it's Hogan's time, it's Hogan's era. He

563
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 3>can say whatever he wants and Vince's like, let's throw it.

564
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:58.799
<v Speaker 3>And so I can imagine that happening here. So that's

565
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 3>my exhibit, uh a here with Hold and.

566
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.599
<v Speaker 2>You see that all the time. I think that that

567
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.519
<v Speaker 2>was you know, kind of a rot disease with you know,

568
00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 2>like w CW. You had a few guys at the

569
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 2>top there and they just kept you know, putting themselves

570
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>over and that can be that can hurt you. And

571
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I think in some cases like this that you know,

572
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>having so much influence in a company can hurt as

573
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>far as you you know, getting other people established, and

574
00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't think it's good for business and you

575
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>get spread the wealth. But you know, even at this

576
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>point in time, I know that you know, Vince is looking,

577
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've got to spread this out. You know,

578
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>he keeps trying to find people that are going to

579
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 2>be able to carry the load and keep you know,

580
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>these arenas with people with within the seats and they're

581
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 2>running a lot of shows and and HLP can't be everywhere,

582
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, so I think that, you know,

583
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>as far as the business sense here, you gotta be

584
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>careful when when somebody has that much influence. But at

585
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.599
<v Speaker 2>the same time, you can't piss him off either. So

586
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it was kind of a fine fine line

587
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 2>that that Vince had to walk, as you had to

588
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>keep the guy in the yellow tights happy and at

589
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the same time try and grow with the roster where

590
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 2>you've got more guys that can appear at the top

591
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 2>of the car. So it was you know, it was

592
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 2>a dance, I think for him, make a really good point,

593
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:41.319
<v Speaker 2>try and keep everybody happy.

594
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.079
<v Speaker 3>That's I never even thought of that way, because the

595
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 3>heat you have Warrior being the next guy coming up.

596
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 4>All right, we're gonna be Hogan restling you six.

597
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Right, but remember they're not sure of him either. Yes too,

598
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, like and so and then so.

599
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 3>He tried it with Savage a year ago, but they

600
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 3>had to have Hogan next to them. Every time Hogan

601
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 3>would walk away to go do a movie or something,

602
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 3>business would dip. So then Vince would call Holgan, Hey,

603
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna call you come back. Business goes up. So

604
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.599
<v Speaker 3>in reality, Hogan's very smart.

605
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Man.

606
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Let's keep everyone down here and I stay up here.

607
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Every time I leave, these people try to level up,

608
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 3>but they can't. So you call me back and I

609
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 3>get more money and I get more opportunities.

610
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 4>Very smart business plan for him.

611
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>There would step away, you know, how can I miss

612
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:25.839
<v Speaker 2>you if you if you're still here? So yeah, it

613
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>worked out great, and it did for a while. I

614
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:33.200
<v Speaker 2>mean those years there, they you know, Terry knew it.

615
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Terry knew their pliells got a ring, you know, he

616
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>just knew. And I can go do whatever I want

617
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 2>to do, and if even if if it works out tremendous,

618
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>that's awesome. But if it doesn't, I mean, this is

619
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>always here. They're gonna need me, and then I can

620
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>carve out a time where I go back and then uh,

621
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm I got other things going on here and they

622
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>need me even more. And how many times he came

623
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.119
<v Speaker 2>back over and what he had to do, you know,

624
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 2>so it was a great business plan for quite a while.

625
00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it worked out for him, but you know, miss

626
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Perfect does not win the nineteen ninety or rumble. He

627
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 3>loses the undefeated streak at WrestleMania six, but also at

628
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 3>that event, Warrior becomes world champion. That means he has

629
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 3>to give up the Intercontinental title because it wasn't title

630
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 3>for a title for some stream reason.

631
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 4>But Warrior then, really, which is it?

632
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 3>They have a tournament, Mister Perfect wins the tournament to

633
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 3>become the intern Continental Champion, pinning Tito Santana in the finals.

634
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Now why the hell do you have Perfect loses undefeated

635
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 3>streak to Beefcake to let him then win a tournament

636
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 3>to become Intercontinental champion.

637
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, all you can say is was that that was

638
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 2>some kind of make good. I don't know that. You know,

639
00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:51.639
<v Speaker 2>let we've got to get Brutus the win and hope

640
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>everybody forgets it. So which didn't happen. But you know,

641
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>did anybody doubt you know, it was that Kurt wasn't

642
00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 2>uh you know, didn't deserve to have a belt on him.

643
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 2>He made a great intercontinental champion, and so him doing that,

644
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't there was no question. Uh, people like give

645
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>it to him, you know. So I think it that

646
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>turned out really to be a blip in a sense

647
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 2>in his his his career because at least at that

648
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 2>time that you know, it was just kind of one

649
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>of those things. Yeah, it happened, but you know, could

650
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 2>five out of you know, five out of five times

651
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>is how many times is it is brute is going

652
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 2>to go over? Uh, you know, it's not going to happen.

653
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 2>So he got it. He got the w just like

654
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Lanny with the.

655
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.400
<v Speaker 4>Hulkster courage done.

656
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Put that, put that in uh you know, put it

657
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>in the bank. But but yeah, I don't think him dropped.

658
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Dropping that match to Brutus hurt his stature as far

659
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>as you know, how he was put on a card

660
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>in the stature that he would be as far as

661
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 2>did he deserve to be an intercontinental champion?

662
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's more even crazier. Exhibit be here.

663
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 3>While I feel like Hulk Conan is involved with this

664
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 3>Beefcake Perfect situation is because SummerSlam nineteen ninety, it's supposed

665
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:28.000
<v Speaker 3>to be Mister Perfect defending the Intercontinent Championship against Brewster

666
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Barbara Beefcake. He's supposed to win, but he gets in

667
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:35.880
<v Speaker 3>a parasailing accident which then replaces Beefcake with Texas Tornado.

668
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 4>Texas Tornado beats.

669
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Mister Perfect at Summerslim nineteen ninety for the Intercontinental Championship.

670
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:42.360
<v Speaker 4>So you're telling me.

671
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that was all a plan to have Beefcake beat

672
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Peep Perfect, to have Perfect get the intercontinental title for

673
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:51.719
<v Speaker 3>Beefcake then to be perfect.

674
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:53.840
<v Speaker 4>Is that what we're all waiting for?

675
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.400
<v Speaker 2>You? Yeah, so you think that, Yeah maybe, But I

676
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>think we're getting way too like for psychics here as

677
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:08.599
<v Speaker 2>far as them planning. And you know, I believe at

678
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.199
<v Speaker 2>the time, you know, this is where where Kurt was ailing.

679
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, his back was in really bad shape. He

680
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>was going to have to take some time off, and

681
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>so that's why this was going to happen. So maybe

682
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>they're thinking, Okay, we've got to make it legit somehow.

683
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 2>We can't just all of a sudden have Brutus come

684
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 2>out of note and then beat him and get the belt.

685
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So you know, that could have been part of the

686
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>psychology of that, that they're laying the tracks prior to that.

687
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.639
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's that's that's what was supposed to happen.

688
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>And as you know, as you mentioned that Brutus had

689
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that horrific parasailing accident. Really he's lucky he didn't die,

690
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that's how bad it was. I mean, you know, I

691
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 2>remember Terry Hulkster talking about how he you know, he

692
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 2>couldn't breathe because his whole face had collapsed and he

693
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>like put his fingers in his mouth to try and

694
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>clear his to give him an air hole, you know,

695
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>like you get to get oxygen. So, I mean, it

696
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 2>was the fact that he ever even came back is

697
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>to me, it's still astounding. If you ever seen those

698
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>X rays of the titanium whatever in his face, I mean,

699
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:37.679
<v Speaker 2>his entire face was really just reconstructed. But yeah, that's

700
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>unfortunate because you know, that was the moment that was

701
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the peak of Brutus's career. That would have been, you know,

702
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>the absolute peak of his career. But unfortunately that's what happened,

703
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 2>and you know, things changed and they didn't miss a beat.

704
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's that's just how it worked that you

705
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:03.559
<v Speaker 2>and I think it was better.

706
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

707
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.679
<v Speaker 3>I love the Texas Tornado, so I have no problems

708
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 3>with him beating him perfect here at some nineteen ninety.

709
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Of course, perfect does eventually beat him again, becoming a

710
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 3>two time in yourgation, and.

711
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.519
<v Speaker 2>That was, yeah, that was that was on Garry because

712
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't able to what he needed to do as

713
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the Intercottinental champion. That's why that was short lived. But

714
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:34.440
<v Speaker 2>he could have had a tremendous run. They really, really,

715
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:36.960
<v Speaker 2>they really liked him. They really wanted him to do

716
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:37.559
<v Speaker 2>well there.

717
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 4>I thought he did well on television, but obviously I don't.

718
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:43.559
<v Speaker 3>We did a whole episode about what he was like

719
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 3>backstage versus how he was in front of the camera,

720
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 3>and I'll be honest, like, in front of the camera,

721
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:50.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know. I didn't see touch Tornado ever suffering

722
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 3>or look bad or bad performance. But when we did

723
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.960
<v Speaker 3>a whole episode about him for an hour, you know,

724
00:39:56.159 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 3>we talked about everything that happens backstage, and a lot

725
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 3>more goes into the Texas Tornado story. Then we're gonna

726
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:06.159
<v Speaker 3>elaborate on now because you know this is a lot.

727
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 3>So if you want to check that out, you go

728
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.840
<v Speaker 3>to our YouTube channel and check it out, because we

729
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 3>did a whole hour on Texas Tornado beating Perfect and

730
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 3>this whole run. But perfect to me at this time.

731
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:19.159
<v Speaker 3>The Internet Continental title. We have seen it happen over

732
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>the years. Macho Man gets it, he becomes world champion,

733
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Ultimate Warrior gets it, he becomes world champion. Mister Perfect

734
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 3>gets it, he does not become world champion. Why do

735
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:31.840
<v Speaker 3>you feel I know we're in the Hogan era, We're

736
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 3>in good guy territory, so good guys are always to champion.

737
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 3>But why do you think that out of everybody, even

738
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:42.239
<v Speaker 3>million dollar man, like, why didn't Perfect get that world title?

739
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:44.840
<v Speaker 3>What is missing from that equation?

740
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Well that, I mean that is a that's a really great,

741
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>great question because he did have it all. Uh. You know,

742
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:57.800
<v Speaker 2>if you could generate the heat that he could generate,

743
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:02.559
<v Speaker 2>few sold like he did. He Uh, a few could

744
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 2>move like he did in the ring. I mean he did,

745
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:11.440
<v Speaker 2>he had it all, but there's always these factors that uh,

746
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, for whatever reason that either they think they

747
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>don't need it. You know, Ted was one of those people.

748
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 2>I think that they felt, you know, the guy sells

749
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>for us, no matter what might as we get you know,

750
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>somebody else in there that can if we're going to

751
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 2>do that, that needs a belt to make it, you know,

752
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:37.039
<v Speaker 2>optimize it, or that there was just something that Vince

753
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:40.599
<v Speaker 2>felt like he just didn't have it, you know, that

754
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>that he needs to be in. But I that Kurt

755
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 2>deserved that, and I think he would have made a

756
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.079
<v Speaker 2>great champion. I really do. I think that you look

757
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>at when he was with you know uh A w A,

758
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.119
<v Speaker 2>and he became there their champion, and as Larry says,

759
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I never I never became champion. He beat

760
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Nick Bockwickele, who had been you know, the you know,

761
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 2>the reigning champion forever seemed and you know, Kurt stepped

762
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:21.440
<v Speaker 2>right into that role and was was tremendous. And here

763
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you are road now and he is way beyond that.

764
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 2>And the way he carried himself and and you put

765
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.639
<v Speaker 2>him up against anybody, didn't matter their size or what

766
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 2>they did. You felt like mister perfect could beat that guy.

767
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 2>So whatever that final discussion was, whatever it was, but

768
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 2>they felt that he didn't he didn't have it, He

769
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't have what they needed him to have because at

770
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 2>that point, you know, you know, Kurt was still very dependable.

771
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember hearing of any you know issues that

772
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 2>uh that were keeping him or he wasn't showing up

773
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:04.480
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. That was never the case with

774
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 2>him then. I don't know later on, but uh, you know,

775
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Kurt was at you know, a point where he would

776
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>have been a great champion. Now as far as the

777
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:18.760
<v Speaker 2>other physical things that were starting to happen with him,

778
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>that might have had something to do with it too,

779
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 2>because as we know, he had horrible back issues and

780
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 2>would eventually step outs and had a Lloyd's of London

781
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:37.880
<v Speaker 2>insurance policy that paid him for a while, uh until

782
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.880
<v Speaker 2>thens needed him again and persuaded him to uh to

783
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:46.519
<v Speaker 2>come back. But yeah, so you know, that's a that's

784
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 2>a that's a great question that but I always felt,

785
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 2>from my viewpoint, I thought he had it all and

786
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I thought he would have been a great champion.

787
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Agreed. I just think it was good guys or champions here.

788
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 3>So that's what we're gonna We're gonna do not until

789
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.280
<v Speaker 3>player and even like Yoko Zuna were suddenly bad guy

790
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:05.679
<v Speaker 3>as your world champions for a brief period of time.

791
00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:07.400
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he didn't.

792
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 3>He didn't have it, and it's he's still on that

793
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:11.119
<v Speaker 3>list of people. You're like, well, why.

794
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 4>Didn't he get it? Why why didn't happen?

795
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Though, But as I will always praise this event, he

796
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>is the team captain SAVA series nineteen ninety It's missed

797
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.519
<v Speaker 3>perfect and all three members of Demolition Versus Warrior leed

798
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 3>Jo Doom Texas Tornado Greatest Survivor series ever. I will

799
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 3>say it until the end of time, even Gobbly Goker,

800
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 3>he was there and he still will be praised and

801
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 3>loved in forever. In my have, especially around Thanksgiving, we

802
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.840
<v Speaker 3>live out cookies and milk for the Gobbly Goker on

803
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 3>Thanksgiving Eve. That's what we do in my house. That's

804
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:50.719
<v Speaker 3>what I hope you do the same thing. If you don't, no, no, wow,

805
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 3>all right, the turkey, all right, fine, inner connal and

806
00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 3>champion though when he is Icy Champion as Bobby heenon

807
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:00.440
<v Speaker 3>A as his manager, and we have seen these videos

808
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.760
<v Speaker 3>all day long, newer fans are still baffled when Perfect

809
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 3>is standing on the second rope and he throws a

810
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.760
<v Speaker 3>towel without Bobby looking, and Bobby just catches it in

811
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 3>mid air.

812
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 4>And you see this when he's walking to the ring.

813
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Every time they hit this.

814
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Do you did, Kurt ever tell you what it was

815
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.199
<v Speaker 3>like to work with Bobby heen him, because I imagine

816
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 3>it's like working with the greatest comedian of all time.

817
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And and they played really well off each other,

818
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 2>and they were, you know, always just joking around. They were. Yeah,

819
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 2>they were a great pair together. Uh and uh, you know, uh,

820
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Bobby was a river, but he was he was a

821
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was more like you know, jokes or stuff.

822
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 2>He would say. Kurt was where you know, he actually

823
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.199
<v Speaker 2>did stop the people. But they were they were, you know,

824
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 2>naturals together they you know, and and genuinely loved being

825
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 2>around each other. Uh and uh So when they the

826
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>two of them together, were was like you said, it

827
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:04.000
<v Speaker 2>was in sync. The fact that you know, you throw

828
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the towel and Bobby would just snatch it, you know,

829
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.280
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even look. And and you know when you're there

830
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 2>and that's saying and you know, a lot of these,

831
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:17.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're with each other a lot and

832
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:20.599
<v Speaker 2>you do these things and it seems like right on

833
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the spot like that, Well that that probably you know

834
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 2>when at that point when you're seeing complete you know,

835
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:32.440
<v Speaker 2>disregard of any looking or they've done that a hundred times. So, uh,

836
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.719
<v Speaker 2>it's great that it comes off that way, but it's

837
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 2>all been very rehearsed and rehearsed and rehearsed, whether it

838
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>was a real one or whatever, but that they've done that.

839
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, the same thing with Kurt with the gump.

840
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You know it's spitting a boom, you know, batting it

841
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 2>off or what he was doing. You know that that's

842
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 2>through just repetition, reps one half, you know, over and

843
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 2>over and over again. And that was just one of

844
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the things. I mean, you see that in the ring

845
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:03.159
<v Speaker 2>all the time. You always wonder, like how these guys

846
00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:04.960
<v Speaker 2>just go in there. They don't know what exactly they're

847
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna do it, know because they've done it so many times.

848
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:10.800
<v Speaker 2>It's when somebody grabs your wrists, you know what you're

849
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:14.840
<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna go from there, whatever you're gonna do,

850
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.760
<v Speaker 2>you know. So it's just that that they're professionals, and

851
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 2>when you do something like that at that level, you're

852
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:26.440
<v Speaker 2>really good at it.

853
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.039
<v Speaker 4>And they're so in synct though too.

854
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 3>And so when you're part of the Heenan family, you

855
00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:35.599
<v Speaker 3>have Bob a Heenon always praising you forever, and the

856
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Heenan family has so many great members from the past

857
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:40.000
<v Speaker 3>to President of the future. But mister Perfect gets in

858
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 3>a storyline with the Big boss Man heading into Restmenia

859
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:47.119
<v Speaker 3>seven because Heenan he's making fun of Big Bossman's mother

860
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 3>on commentary over and over and over again. But then

861
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 3>it gets a little controversial because we have a moment

862
00:47:56.559 --> 00:48:00.280
<v Speaker 3>where police brutality is happening in the real world world

863
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.039
<v Speaker 3>in media and mister perfects hanging on the Big boss

864
00:48:03.079 --> 00:48:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Man as a police officer.

865
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 4>I believe this is Rodney King around this time.

866
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 3>So on your backstage interviewing and Perfect and Bobby heene

867
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 3>are making like police beat down jokes about people being

868
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 3>You're like you think that guy the video came and

869
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.159
<v Speaker 3>the Bush is gonna be hurt, Like We're gonna hurt

870
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 3>you tonight, boss Man, Like holy shit, And we already

871
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 3>have a rocky sympathizer shit going on too, Like I don't.

872
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:28.480
<v Speaker 3>I didn't put this in the notes, but in reality,

873
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.360
<v Speaker 3>do you remember any of this and how heavy it was?

874
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And uh, And that's the thing when you're you know,

875
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of these storylines are walk the line of reality.

876
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:42.760
<v Speaker 2>That's that's how you make it work, that's how you

877
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.400
<v Speaker 2>get it over. But you also have to be careful

878
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 2>about how far you push it or how insensitive in

879
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 2>a sense you go, you know and uh, yeah, sometimes

880
00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 2>you I don't think that people you know, like would

881
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:05.119
<v Speaker 2>measure in a sense where we were, and I do.

882
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 2>I do remember, you know, doing some of those and

883
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 2>going man, you know, but we didn't have the immediate

884
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 2>feedback like we have today, and so a lot of it,

885
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>to me, would go out into the ether, you know,

886
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.119
<v Speaker 2>it would just it wasn't people were I mean, what

887
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.280
<v Speaker 2>was somebody going to do? Write a letter? You know.

888
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the way it worked that way. We

889
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't have a phone line people could call and say,

890
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you guys did that. But it was

891
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.239
<v Speaker 2>just a it was just a general feeling and you

892
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.199
<v Speaker 2>had to go by that because you didn't get that

893
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of feedback as today. You know, if you do something,

894
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, before you're off the air, you already could

895
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 2>get feedback of people saying I can't believe that, or

896
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>you know it worked, you know, and you had you know,

897
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 2>these guys of course have a natural sense. That's who

898
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:58.079
<v Speaker 2>they are there. So they're gifted psychologists. As I've said before,

899
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.559
<v Speaker 2>they know how to people people, how to get reaction

900
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.039
<v Speaker 2>for people, and they know how you know, how they're

901
00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:08.199
<v Speaker 2>going to react in a lot of this. But sometimes

902
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 2>when you do it's you know, the whole the Iraqi

903
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 2>sympathizer and or you get into the terrorism stuff as

904
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:19.679
<v Speaker 2>we saw, it's a it's very it's it's a real

905
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a minefield and you have to be really careful.

906
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:26.880
<v Speaker 2>And I remember back then, Yeah, to me that that

907
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>was kind of pushing it, and like I said, I

908
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't but we didn't get that kind of feet bay,

909
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 2>So I never knew. I don't know how that you know, reaction.

910
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 2>You'd see it in the when you went to the Arenas,

911
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.840
<v Speaker 2>but that was just really you know, generated in heat

912
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.519
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, awesome, you didn't know that these people

913
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 2>really like were thinking, you know, you went too far

914
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 2>with that, you know.

915
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:52.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just remember Bobby making those Rodney King jokes,

916
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 3>oh my lord, dude, police brutality, And you know it's

917
00:50:56.639 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 3>changed over the years obviously how you perspect looked at

918
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.480
<v Speaker 3>these things. But in ninety one, when he's saying that,

919
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 3>and it's so fresh in the news, it's so fresh

920
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 3>in media that police are beating down a man and

921
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 3>someone in the bushes videotaping with a cam quarder and

922
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:12.679
<v Speaker 3>blow it just it changed the world for a lot

923
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:14.840
<v Speaker 3>of different reasons. But bringing it up into a storyline

924
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 3>or the intercondinal title at WrestleMania seven, when you already

925
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 3>have your alleged bomb threats over an Iraqi sympathizer character man,

926
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 3>you're hitting, you're hitting too many checkbox here of how

927
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.159
<v Speaker 3>many times can we piss somebody off at one event?

928
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like that might have gone too far though,

929
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:33.400
<v Speaker 3>but that that's that's how I felt about that. He

930
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 3>beat boss Man, doesn't get the intercondinal title. We go

931
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.519
<v Speaker 3>to Summer Slam ninety one. Someone missed the perfect back.

932
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:41.599
<v Speaker 3>He cannot continue any longer. He has to step away

933
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.320
<v Speaker 3>from the ring. He fights Brett Hart and maybe the

934
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.880
<v Speaker 3>second greatest Summer Slam match of all time. The other

935
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 3>one would be Brett Hart versus Bulldog Mister Perfect goes

936
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 3>into a match knowing he needs surgery, knowing he has

937
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 3>bulging discs.

938
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:57.920
<v Speaker 4>Did you speak with him? Were you aware of how

939
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 4>injured he was heading into this?

940
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, didn't speak to him about it. It was something

941
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, you never really would, you know. It's kind

942
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 2>of a I don't know, JINX thing or something like that.

943
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:12.599
<v Speaker 2>You never talked to anybody was you know, dealing with

944
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 2>something an injury especially that was going to that was

945
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:22.639
<v Speaker 2>impacting their performance, their career. But you could see how,

946
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:25.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, what what he was experiencing, just by the

947
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 2>way he moved. And I've said this before that I've

948
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 2>always been just astounded when I look back at some

949
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 2>of these matches and uh, I think back to when

950
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:46.079
<v Speaker 2>my dog's parking, Uh I don't hear. Yeah, I think

951
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 2>back to to looking at some of these guys in

952
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:50.559
<v Speaker 2>the ring during these matches and going you know, and

953
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:54.320
<v Speaker 2>knowing what they look like and were moving like before

954
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 2>they went out there, and then you see what they

955
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:02.159
<v Speaker 2>do and it's they're not uh, you know, not doing

956
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 2>certain moves, they're not moving a certain way not to

957
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:09.599
<v Speaker 2>do they it's full out when they're out there. Dynamite

958
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Kid was the same way that you know that you

959
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.079
<v Speaker 2>knew that that guy was destroyed and he was going

960
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:15.840
<v Speaker 2>out there. You never know when they're out there in

961
00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>the ring and you look at that match with Brett,

962
00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Kurt's doing all these bridges and snaps,

963
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:28.679
<v Speaker 2>supplexes and and you've got to be thinking every time,

964
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 2>can you imagine every time he's doing that? And then

965
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:40.639
<v Speaker 2>you know Brett blocks in the sharpshooter and it's just

966
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 2>amazing that you look at him and how he performed.

967
00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.039
<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing to me that these guys that they

968
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:56.239
<v Speaker 2>would do it and it's one hundred percent went out

969
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 2>there one hundred percent, and you know maybe he was

970
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.880
<v Speaker 2>forty percent you know or wherever. Can't even imagine what

971
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 2>he was going through. And pain is a is a

972
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:06.960
<v Speaker 2>great equalizer as far as like, you know, you can

973
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 2>have that thought in your brain, I'm going to do

974
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.599
<v Speaker 2>something if your but if your body is with you know,

975
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 2>pain is supposed to stop you from doing that. And

976
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.360
<v Speaker 2>watch that match, you know, maybe maybe you saw something

977
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:26.199
<v Speaker 2>in it. I didn't I And I I love seeing

978
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 2>the comments and sometimes that people say, well, you know,

979
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it. And he didn't do this or

980
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:37.519
<v Speaker 2>he didn't do that. You're like, please, if you knew that?

981
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:41.360
<v Speaker 2>What what? What a mess his back was then? And

982
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>uh and him going out there and just giving it

983
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.880
<v Speaker 2>his all and then when he comes back, Oh god,

984
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:55.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean could you know probably wanted to crawl. I

985
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 2>don't think that you can't. It didn't help his uh,

986
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:04.559
<v Speaker 2>his physical condition. So that's what makes that match to

987
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.480
<v Speaker 2>me more amazing Steve is what what condition he was in?

988
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 2>And then he pulled that performance off?

989
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 4>I agree? I know, I agree.

990
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.960
<v Speaker 3>When you are needing surgery and you go out there

991
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.360
<v Speaker 3>and every step you take you're wincing, and you can

992
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.320
<v Speaker 3>see in his face it's like he was butting down

993
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:22.760
<v Speaker 3>a little bit.

994
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:26.079
<v Speaker 4>No, he's walking, he's hurts, yeah.

995
00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:27.400
<v Speaker 2>And you know like he's you know, people look at

996
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:29.639
<v Speaker 2>what he's selling or something. You know, I don't think

997
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 2>he had so much that day.

998
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:33.599
<v Speaker 3>No, when you need a back surgery, like this difference

999
00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:36.079
<v Speaker 3>between like oh I hurt my hand, I'll just tape

1000
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.920
<v Speaker 3>it up and go out there. No, your back, you know,

1001
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:40.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of getting your legs going, kind of getting your

1002
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:41.480
<v Speaker 3>whole body going.

1003
00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:43.440
<v Speaker 2>He's got the center of your whole movement and.

1004
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:46.239
<v Speaker 4>You getting slammed over and over on the thing that

1005
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:47.159
<v Speaker 4>you need surgery on.

1006
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, imagine, I mean everybody, I would. You know, most

1007
00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:53.559
<v Speaker 2>people have had their back go out at some point

1008
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.280
<v Speaker 2>in your life. Remember what that was like? That is

1009
00:55:56.360 --> 00:56:01.920
<v Speaker 2>the center of all your mobility, everything from your legs,

1010
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.239
<v Speaker 2>your arms, your every time you twist everything, and that

1011
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>is it imagined that that is just on fire and

1012
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:12.639
<v Speaker 2>every movement and then you're doing.

1013
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 4>That one of the best matches.

1014
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to get off the couch.

1015
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 3>No try, like I think I have said before, when

1016
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.400
<v Speaker 3>I sleep on my arm wrong and it hurts, and

1017
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.480
<v Speaker 3>he's like, oh, well, I have bulging discs.

1018
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:24.960
<v Speaker 4>I need a back surgery.

1019
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 3>But let's go out and have one of the best

1020
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.480
<v Speaker 3>matches of my career, which I honestly think it is.

1021
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Even Brett Hart said that. You know, he told Kurt hey, man, like,

1022
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, I know you're hurt. You don't have to

1023
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:35.159
<v Speaker 4>do this.

1024
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.840
<v Speaker 3>And Kurt told him like, no, I'm going out there

1025
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:41.440
<v Speaker 3>because you deserve this and you've worked your ass off.

1026
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:42.840
<v Speaker 3>And if I don't go out there and you beat

1027
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 3>me and you beat somebody else, like who cares? If

1028
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 3>you beat Skinner. I love Skinner, but who cares if

1029
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:50.719
<v Speaker 3>you beat Skinner for the intercolal title. No, you're gonna

1030
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:52.760
<v Speaker 3>beat the guy who's had the title for the past

1031
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 3>eight months. So let's go out there and do it.

1032
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.880
<v Speaker 3>And and again they stole the show. They had an

1033
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 3>amazing match. And that's when we all I had missed

1034
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:04.440
<v Speaker 3>her Perfect with Coach, his other manager, his last manager.

1035
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Coach.

1036
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 3>And it's a physical man. Who think of a gym

1037
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:10.639
<v Speaker 3>teacher when you were a kid. That is what Coach

1038
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 3>looks like. You get the visor on, the big glasses,

1039
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.760
<v Speaker 3>the sweatsuit, the whistle before Billo Fonso used it every

1040
00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 3>single match in ECW. What why go from genius to

1041
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 3>Bobby Heenan to coach.

1042
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 2>That's another one. I don't have any idea need him.

1043
00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:36.639
<v Speaker 4>Jamison. We should have give him Jamison instead of Coach.

1044
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, but yeah, it made no sense that that, and

1045
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you know the fact it was just so short lived.

1046
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I think everyone realized it, you know, shortly after.

1047
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's just race that in people's brains, like put up

1048
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.639
<v Speaker 3>the men in black, race your brain. Boom, it's gone,

1049
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh all right, moving on, mister Perfect though, does commentary

1050
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.440
<v Speaker 3>from this point on, he's gonna do commentary until Rick

1051
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Flair comes in with Bobby Heenan, eventually becoming Ric Flair's

1052
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:08.639
<v Speaker 3>executive consultant, involved in every damn Rick Flair storyline, from

1053
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.800
<v Speaker 3>winning the world title a Roll Rumble ninety two to

1054
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 3>apparently taking going to post naked photos of Miss Elizabeth

1055
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.480
<v Speaker 3>up in the big screen at WrestleMania eight, even leading

1056
00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:22.239
<v Speaker 3>to SummerSlam ninety two where it's going to be what

1057
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:23.599
<v Speaker 3>corners mister perfect in?

1058
00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 4>Is it Ultimate Warrior or is it the Macho ma'am?

1059
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Where did you land on mister perfect being on commentary

1060
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 3>and then being an executive consultant? I enjoyed it, But

1061
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.239
<v Speaker 3>where you worked with him as a wrestler, What was

1062
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.679
<v Speaker 3>it like working with him as a broadcast journalist.

1063
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it was cool because he came to the

1064
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 2>studio more often and so it got to spend more time.

1065
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well it was out of necessity. He couldn't

1066
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, he couldn't work, and so you know, I

1067
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:03.320
<v Speaker 2>think that was that was I always like that aspect

1068
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 2>of it, that Vince would you know, bring, bring, keep

1069
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:08.639
<v Speaker 2>the guys around, and that was kind of the way

1070
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you could do it. Keep them involved. And it was

1071
00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 2>also you know, selfishly for Vince in the sense that

1072
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.079
<v Speaker 2>to keep them near and then at some point when

1073
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I need him, I can put them back into you know,

1074
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 2>action in which we saw with Randy. Randy never really

1075
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:30.039
<v Speaker 2>never wanted to be a commentator, but you know it

1076
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 2>was Vince made it attractive in a sense as far

1077
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:36.719
<v Speaker 2>as the money went, and then he ended up being

1078
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 2>whenever they had an issue with somebody, whoever, Brandy would

1079
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:43.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, pop in take care of it. And so

1080
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that was that was part of it. But I don't

1081
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 2>think that Kurt really ever enjoyed it, you know, immensely.

1082
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think he you know, it was it

1083
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.039
<v Speaker 2>was a good gig, but he always wanted to be

1084
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 2>in the ring, and I think it was really different,

1085
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.559
<v Speaker 2>dificult for him during that period of time, even though

1086
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 2>he was getting well paid for uh you know, he

1087
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:10.320
<v Speaker 2>had that insurance policy the Lloyd's of London that you know,

1088
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:14.920
<v Speaker 2>he was so he didn't have to work. But you know,

1089
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:18.079
<v Speaker 2>he loved being around the business. That was just his life.

1090
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 2>It was with a lot of these guys and uh

1091
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.320
<v Speaker 2>so it was it gave him more chance, you know,

1092
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 2>he could get home more but I think that when

1093
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.599
<v Speaker 2>it came down to it, he he wanted to get

1094
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:33.519
<v Speaker 2>back in the ring, and I think that when uh,

1095
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:40.719
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity came up, and uh, you know, maybe he

1096
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 2>wasn't ready at the time, but it was out of

1097
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:48.320
<v Speaker 2>necessity that you know that Evince made it worthwhile. So

1098
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:53.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it was just it was it

1099
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.199
<v Speaker 2>was great to keep him, keep him there. I think

1100
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 2>that that that was one of the best aspects of it.

1101
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've watched mentioned a thousand times. I watched all

1102
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.480
<v Speaker 3>the Superstars from ninety two on Peacock recently, and he's

1103
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:07.079
<v Speaker 3>on commentary the whole time, the whole year, and he's

1104
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 3>very good with Vince McMahon. They're a perfect pair. And

1105
01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.880
<v Speaker 3>that's where I started noticing, I'll try.

1106
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:12.920
<v Speaker 2>To do it.

1107
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.199
<v Speaker 3>I did it sort of, not really, but he was

1108
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 3>perfect throwning it in the sky and catching it with Vince.

1109
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 3>And then he made Rick Flair more of a threat

1110
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.400
<v Speaker 3>because Bobby Heenan was a goofball and a weasela cost

1111
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:29.400
<v Speaker 3>him sometimes you'd see him do funny things.

1112
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Mister perfect.

1113
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 3>We knew who he was, we knew what a killer

1114
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.280
<v Speaker 3>he could be in the rink. So having him with

1115
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Rick Flair. Really, I think added more heat and more

1116
01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:41.760
<v Speaker 3>anger towards Ric Flair, because now Flay doesn't just have

1117
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 3>Bobby Heenen as a goofball manager. He's got a like

1118
01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:47.559
<v Speaker 3>a killer mister Perfect as his executive consultant. They have

1119
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:51.760
<v Speaker 3>a stable, a faction growing or just around Rick Flair.

1120
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I really enjoyed it because I kept, like you said,

1121
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.800
<v Speaker 3>it kept Rick mister Perfect in the game, but it

1122
01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:00.480
<v Speaker 3>also kept him on air. But when they did need

1123
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 3>him Sarves Area's ninety two, they came calling because we

1124
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:06.199
<v Speaker 3>did a whole episode about it. Is Warrior gets fired,

1125
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 3>he's out, Well, we need someone to take his place.

1126
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Mister Perfect gets the call.

1127
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Now, I don't know how much mister Perfect's being paid

1128
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:16.760
<v Speaker 3>of his insurance policy, but I can imagine it's a lot.

1129
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:20.119
<v Speaker 3>So do you think you don't have the problem of

1130
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:22.199
<v Speaker 3>the answer, But do you think he was getting paid

1131
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.760
<v Speaker 3>more money to be an active wrestler or to sit

1132
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:28.920
<v Speaker 3>at home collecting a big ass payday doing nothing except commentary.

1133
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've heard different amounts. I heard one time was

1134
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 2>like three hundred thousand dollars or something. I don't know,

1135
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 2>but I think that it was it was enough he

1136
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to work. But you know, those guys at

1137
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the time, especially at Kirt's level, they could, you know,

1138
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:54.280
<v Speaker 2>they could bring home half a million dollars or more so.

1139
01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, you think, well, but then

1140
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to get my my he beaten up

1141
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:04.719
<v Speaker 2>every night, you know, have that car wreck every night,

1142
01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:10.079
<v Speaker 2>so you know, and and then he's getting paid more.

1143
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:13.679
<v Speaker 2>He's getting paid extra for doing the commentary stuff too.

1144
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I think probably at the time he

1145
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:24.000
<v Speaker 2>was probably faster going back in there than he wanted to.

1146
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But I think that, you know, Vince made it worthwhile.

1147
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.639
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how that all got settled. I

1148
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:34.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know if Vince had to pay off the rest

1149
01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of the the insurance policy or something, because if he's

1150
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:41.199
<v Speaker 2>going to go back in the ring, I'm sure Lloyd's

1151
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.199
<v Speaker 2>of London is not going to be happy about paying him.

1152
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 2>They're paying him basically not to wrestle anymore. So whatever

1153
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:54.679
<v Speaker 2>that deal was must have really been worth it to

1154
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Kurt for him to go back in, because he wasn't.

1155
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.760
<v Speaker 2>It certainly wasn't one hundred percent at that point.

1156
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.199
<v Speaker 3>No, And I've heard stories of like Rick Rude being

1157
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:07.199
<v Speaker 3>on the same policy where when he came back into

1158
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:11.599
<v Speaker 3>the WWF in ninety seven ish, he couldn't take bumps

1159
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:13.800
<v Speaker 3>because the insurance company is like, so you're gonna work

1160
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:14.360
<v Speaker 3>as a wrestler.

1161
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 4>He's like no, no, no, no, no no no, Like

1162
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:18.840
<v Speaker 4>I'll do stuff, but I won't get I.

1163
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:21.079
<v Speaker 3>Won't take bumps, Like, so we're gonna pay you, and

1164
01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:23.679
<v Speaker 3>you're also gonna get paid by them, but you're not

1165
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.559
<v Speaker 3>gonna wrestle, like and Rick Rude had an issue. That's

1166
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:29.280
<v Speaker 3>why he couldn't wrestle in WCW in to the later

1167
01:04:29.400 --> 01:04:32.039
<v Speaker 3>time because Eric Brushoff's like, I'm not paying off your

1168
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:33.679
<v Speaker 3>insurance for you to wrestle.

1169
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 4>It cost me more money to pay this off than

1170
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:36.679
<v Speaker 4>for you to actually wrestle.

1171
01:04:37.119 --> 01:04:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Right, No, yeah, mister perfect only lasted about a year

1172
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:44.159
<v Speaker 3>in ringing the WWF from ninety three and he went

1173
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 3>back on commentary in ninety four and they tried to

1174
01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:50.840
<v Speaker 3>It's funny because on the Mister perfect Uh documentary they

1175
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.360
<v Speaker 3>try to suggest that him and Hunter Hurst Hemsley Triple

1176
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Hs were together forever. They're together for about like a

1177
01:04:55.880 --> 01:05:00.400
<v Speaker 3>week maybe two, and then Kurt left for WCW while

1178
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:03.920
<v Speaker 3>on Raw they're airing old episodes of things that were

1179
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:07.119
<v Speaker 3>taped where mister Perfect turns heel or wild man Mark

1180
01:05:07.280 --> 01:05:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Mary joins up with Triple H. And then he goes

1181
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:13.599
<v Speaker 3>off to WSW and eventually joins the nWo like everybody

1182
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:17.880
<v Speaker 3>who ever worked in the WWF, and he enjoyed a

1183
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.320
<v Speaker 3>nice run there for a while as just Kurt Henning.

1184
01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.800
<v Speaker 3>But then eventually he starts the rap Is Crap where

1185
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 3>he becomes a Southern boy, red Texas. What was there

1186
01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:33.639
<v Speaker 3>stable name? Something probably offensive, But apparently as time go on,

1187
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.440
<v Speaker 3>people would say he had the most fun being a

1188
01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:39.679
<v Speaker 3>rap Is Crap Texas cowboy in WSW, that he was

1189
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:40.480
<v Speaker 3>mister perfect.

1190
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:42.119
<v Speaker 4>I find that hard to believe.

1191
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I find that hard to believe too, But Kurt

1192
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:50.519
<v Speaker 2>found fun wherever he went, so I'm sure that whatever

1193
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the ride was, he made it the best could possibly be.

1194
01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And also, at that point he wasn't mister perfect or

1195
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.679
<v Speaker 2>the current we were used to seeing in the ring.

1196
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:07.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, everything had taken its toll by the time

1197
01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:11.840
<v Speaker 2>he was down there, So I don't maybe just from

1198
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:15.960
<v Speaker 2>a standpoint of, you know, the character he had fun with,

1199
01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 2>but I can't imagine it was fun for him as

1200
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:20.480
<v Speaker 2>far as him not being able to do what he

1201
01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 2>was used to being able to do in the ring.

1202
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:23.519
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

1203
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:27.199
<v Speaker 3>Before we wrap this whole, mister Perfect episode of I

1204
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:29.800
<v Speaker 3>want to talk about ribs for a minute. One that

1205
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.039
<v Speaker 3>I thought was hilarious that I want to know if

1206
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:33.800
<v Speaker 3>you have any ones that no one's ever heard of.

1207
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:34.719
<v Speaker 4>But this one is.

1208
01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:38.719
<v Speaker 3>In one match, mister Perfect brought a plastic eye dropper

1209
01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:42.400
<v Speaker 3>bottle and squirted fluid around the ring. The restless panicked,

1210
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:46.440
<v Speaker 3>and someone shouted, who shit their pants? Apparently he had

1211
01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:49.079
<v Speaker 3>a stink bomb in liquid form and he was spraying

1212
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 3>it around the ring. That to me is hilarious because

1213
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:54.840
<v Speaker 3>you gotta keep you gotta be in the ring selling

1214
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:56.559
<v Speaker 3>like I can't. Oh, I'm fighting you as you smell

1215
01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:59.920
<v Speaker 3>like shit. But do you know any rip stories at me?

1216
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.679
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that weren't so evil that we could talk about.

1217
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Most of Most of them were pretty evil rights. But

1218
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:09.519
<v Speaker 2>he would go to you know, I always thought like

1219
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:14.239
<v Speaker 2>an extra a bag just for his rib stuff. You know,

1220
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the whole stink bomb thing, and he had

1221
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:20.280
<v Speaker 2>it was a you know stuff he bought. It was

1222
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 2>like a little dropper thing with a you know, it

1223
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:25.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of drop things and you could and he would

1224
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:28.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, sprinkle it on people as they walked by,

1225
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:30.639
<v Speaker 2>and it made I think, I don't know if it

1226
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:35.159
<v Speaker 2>was morning missed or something. It's just it was just

1227
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.000
<v Speaker 2>smelled like crap. I mean, like you thought somebody pooped

1228
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 2>their pants. And that was just that was one of

1229
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.599
<v Speaker 2>them that, you know, if somebody annoyed him or whatever,

1230
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:49.639
<v Speaker 2>or he just wanted to have a little rib, you know,

1231
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and it was it lasted too, you know, it wasn't

1232
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:56.639
<v Speaker 2>just that it would be a few minutes. Uh. And

1233
01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I heard that he had he did that on a

1234
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:02.000
<v Speaker 2>cup on plane, you know, a couple of times in

1235
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the whole you know what that's like, I mean, and

1236
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you're all breathing the same air. So they weren't real

1237
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:12.440
<v Speaker 2>happy with him. But then he then he also uh

1238
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:17.640
<v Speaker 2>they they had would take locks and and chain things,

1239
01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.640
<v Speaker 2>say whatever you had, you know, like everybody was used

1240
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to carry around those Halliburton briefcases, and he would he

1241
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:29.279
<v Speaker 2>would lock those two lock you know, lockers in the

1242
01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:35.439
<v Speaker 2>in the arena or uh. You know, he just NonStop

1243
01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:38.279
<v Speaker 2>and you couldn't out rib him. And most of the

1244
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:41.279
<v Speaker 2>boys at some point would just you know cry foul

1245
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:45.000
<v Speaker 2>or just throw in the towel like I I'm done, please,

1246
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:47.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, like you know, they would try and rib

1247
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:50.479
<v Speaker 2>him back and then he would come back ten times worse.

1248
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Where I think Tanaka Tanaka pat Tanaka is. It talks

1249
01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:01.840
<v Speaker 2>about how he uh had a rental car that he

1250
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.880
<v Speaker 2>they got in because they had broken toothpicks off in

1251
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.840
<v Speaker 2>the locks of of Kurt's rental car, and and so

1252
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>he he painted the headlights black on their rental car.

1253
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:20.079
<v Speaker 2>So they get in the car and they can't uh

1254
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the they're like, what the hell the lights

1255
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.800
<v Speaker 2>are on, but we can't see anything. And then they figured, okay,

1256
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.199
<v Speaker 2>they see painted, so they scrape that off and then

1257
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:30.920
<v Speaker 2>they go get in the car and then they can't

1258
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:33.359
<v Speaker 2>see through the windshield. It is this is filmy something.

1259
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:36.199
<v Speaker 2>And he'd taken motor oil and put it on on

1260
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the windshield. So you you know, man, you try and

1261
01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 2>get that off, you put the water on, it makes

1262
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:45.720
<v Speaker 2>it worse. And uh uh. The way he tells the

1263
01:09:45.800 --> 01:09:50.359
<v Speaker 2>story is that so he has a brilliant idea, had

1264
01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:52.600
<v Speaker 2>a gas can or something to put gas on the windshield,

1265
01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:55.319
<v Speaker 2>thinking it would cut through the oil, and and that

1266
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:57.880
<v Speaker 2>perfect drives by and throws a match and let's the

1267
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:01.119
<v Speaker 2>car goes up. Now, well, I don't know, you know,

1268
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:03.680
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy to me. I never heard that one. I

1269
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:08.680
<v Speaker 2>just saw him telling the story. But that But really

1270
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:14.439
<v Speaker 2>it just there were no limits sometimes. And also you

1271
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:19.520
<v Speaker 2>know fecal matters that we say would show up in

1272
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:23.560
<v Speaker 2>people's bags and stuff. I mean, you didn't want to

1273
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:27.000
<v Speaker 2>be on a and and to him, it wasn't you know,

1274
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:30.319
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't being evil to him, it was just funny.

1275
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:33.039
<v Speaker 2>It was just funny, just doing stuff like that.

1276
01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:39.279
<v Speaker 4>But you know, did he ever try to rip mister Fuji?

1277
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I know you didn't. Mister Fuji was I supposedly

1278
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.600
<v Speaker 2>number one. I remember Alfred told me a story one

1279
01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:53.439
<v Speaker 2>time that this guy that when they were in a

1280
01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:56.399
<v Speaker 2>locker room and the guy had a pocket knight that

1281
01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 2>he kept playing with and it was annoying mister Fuji.

1282
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:00.920
<v Speaker 2>And he went over and he said, let me see

1283
01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:03.039
<v Speaker 2>a knife, and he goes to sharp. He goes, yeah,

1284
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.199
<v Speaker 2>it's like a razor, and he goes, oh really and

1285
01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:08.239
<v Speaker 2>like slice the guy's chest open, like not deep, but

1286
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:12.199
<v Speaker 2>just like and then yeah, you know, you're right, gave

1287
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:16.239
<v Speaker 2>it back to him. You know like, yeah, you didn't,

1288
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:20.319
<v Speaker 2>mister Fuji could was just brutal. I heard other stories

1289
01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:23.720
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that they would remember, the Nair that's the

1290
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.640
<v Speaker 2>hair remover stuff I think it was called there and

1291
01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:32.600
<v Speaker 2>doing things to people. So yeah, the Land of Ribs

1292
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:39.239
<v Speaker 2>was was intense where they would Marty Jennety said that

1293
01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:45.800
<v Speaker 2>he one time Kurt handcuffed his Halliburton to a hotel

1294
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.600
<v Speaker 2>drawer and they had to catch a flight, so Marty,

1295
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Marty took the whole drawer out. He couldn't get it

1296
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:53.560
<v Speaker 2>off and had to go through. He says, he went

1297
01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:59.960
<v Speaker 2>through you know, secure and they ended up getting bump

1298
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:01.880
<v Speaker 2>from the flight, so it kind of went back on

1299
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:06.520
<v Speaker 2>on the Kurt. But you know, they those guys, you know,

1300
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you're on the road for that long and you're bored

1301
01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.159
<v Speaker 2>out of your mind, and that's how they entertained themselves

1302
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:16.079
<v Speaker 2>by doing this stuff. And Kurt was king. Like I say,

1303
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:18.880
<v Speaker 2>he did a little stuff to me. I didn't, thank God,

1304
01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:21.680
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I remember I told you the story

1305
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:23.800
<v Speaker 2>when when I did that pay per view with a

1306
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:25.760
<v Speaker 2>watter gun on my shoulder, he had come over and

1307
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:28.479
<v Speaker 2>put his arm on me, his arm around me and

1308
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.039
<v Speaker 2>put a big water gum on my shoulder and went

1309
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:33.760
<v Speaker 2>through the entire pay per view with a lot of

1310
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:37.039
<v Speaker 2>gum on my on my shoulder. Nobody said anything, So

1311
01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:40.119
<v Speaker 2>that that was just some of the little things. You know.

1312
01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I'd do an interview in one of those group interviews

1313
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and he would step on my foot and I would

1314
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 2>be trying to get over to somebody to with a microphone.

1315
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:51.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's just that was just Kurt and and uh

1316
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and and genuinely funny too. I mean, you know, he

1317
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:58.359
<v Speaker 2>was as certainly as funny as Bobby, and the two

1318
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:00.680
<v Speaker 2>of them together was it was a another It was

1319
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:05.199
<v Speaker 2>a comedy team too. So you know, bottom line, he

1320
01:13:05.319 --> 01:13:07.279
<v Speaker 2>just loved to have a good time. He really did.

1321
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:13.199
<v Speaker 2>And and uh, it's just I'm I'm I'm glad that

1322
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:19.279
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't see those final years. Uh and uh

1323
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:25.520
<v Speaker 2>because I would have hated to see that. And it's

1324
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:31.560
<v Speaker 2>tragic the way we lost them. But you know, drug

1325
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:34.000
<v Speaker 2>use and it was is a big part of the

1326
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:41.079
<v Speaker 2>industry was then. Uh, So that he was a statistic

1327
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.520
<v Speaker 2>because of it, and those guys. We talk about the

1328
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:48.680
<v Speaker 2>road that these guys were on and you had something

1329
01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:50.960
<v Speaker 2>get you up, had something to get you to the

1330
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:53.840
<v Speaker 2>gym and get keep you in shape, and then go

1331
01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:58.159
<v Speaker 2>to an alcohol and then put something healthy in or

1332
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:02.960
<v Speaker 2>something so you could sleep. It was just a horrible cycle.

1333
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:05.920
<v Speaker 2>And you know, got a hold of these a lot

1334
01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:09.720
<v Speaker 2>of these guys and they didn't get out of that hole. Yeah,

1335
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:11.239
<v Speaker 2>he's terrible, right.

1336
01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:13.840
<v Speaker 3>He died February tenth, two thousand and three. He was

1337
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 3>forty four. It was six weeks away from turning forty five. Determined, uh,

1338
01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:26.279
<v Speaker 3>cocaine and you know, steroids and painkillers was the reason

1339
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.920
<v Speaker 3>of his death. So it's just sad to see that

1340
01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot a lot of wrestlers, especially even from the

1341
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.079
<v Speaker 3>Golden era we've talked about before, none of them really

1342
01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:38.960
<v Speaker 3>die of It's hard to find a lot of people

1343
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:42.239
<v Speaker 3>who die of old age from the Golden era, and well.

1344
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Old age is sixties, you know, unfortunately, like.

1345
01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 4>Forty forty four years old.

1346
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.920
<v Speaker 3>And he had a son, you know, multiple children by

1347
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Curtis Axel, Michael mcgilla, Cutty, Joe Henning, all the different names, and.

1348
01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.039
<v Speaker 4>He's a producer now in the WWE.

1349
01:14:59.159 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 3>So that's great that they he can carry the lineage

1350
01:15:01.960 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 3>of his family along the way. But it was strange

1351
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:08.199
<v Speaker 3>when they brought in his son, and they didn't name

1352
01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:13.279
<v Speaker 3>him Joe Henning. They named him Michael McGillicuddy. That was

1353
01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:15.880
<v Speaker 3>his wrestler's name. And then eventually he got to change

1354
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 3>it to Curtis Axel. At least they got to get

1355
01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:22.520
<v Speaker 3>it a little close because the you know Curtis Kurt Axel,

1356
01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:25.159
<v Speaker 3>you know the grandfather. So it's nice to see the

1357
01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:27.680
<v Speaker 3>lineage carried on there, But it was really strange when

1358
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:30.720
<v Speaker 3>you bring in a second generation or a third generation wrestler,

1359
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:32.199
<v Speaker 3>they don't use the last name.

1360
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.359
<v Speaker 4>But some get to, some don't get to.

1361
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:37.079
<v Speaker 3>Before we wrap this up, though, like, what are your

1362
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:40.000
<v Speaker 3>thoughts on mister We did a whole hour and a

1363
01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.920
<v Speaker 3>half here about mister Perfect, talked about the highs and lows,

1364
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:47.640
<v Speaker 3>the good times, bad times. But what when we shut

1365
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:49.479
<v Speaker 3>this off, what do you want people to think about

1366
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:51.840
<v Speaker 3>mister Perfect and Kurt Henning as a person, not the wrestler,

1367
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:52.479
<v Speaker 3>the person.

1368
01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, and I think we should remember him as a

1369
01:15:55.560 --> 01:15:58.880
<v Speaker 2>wrestler too, But yeah, he was you know Kurt. Everybody

1370
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that that knew him would say and I've never really

1371
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:07.039
<v Speaker 2>heard people say anything, you know, bad about him, except

1372
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:11.399
<v Speaker 2>that some of his ribs were a little far but

1373
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.159
<v Speaker 2>he was just a fun loving guy. You know, he

1374
01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:17.840
<v Speaker 2>just he'd loved to laugh. He had a lot of

1375
01:16:17.920 --> 01:16:21.279
<v Speaker 2>guys that he was very loyal to, you know, that

1376
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:25.920
<v Speaker 2>whole gang from Robinsdale. You know, you hear you know,

1377
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Barry Darza talks about him to this day fondly, and

1378
01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of these guys and he was

1379
01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:38.560
<v Speaker 2>just family with what he was all about. I credit

1380
01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:43.600
<v Speaker 2>where he came from. And if anybody's ever met Larry Hendrick,

1381
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you know that that you know where those values and

1382
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:52.159
<v Speaker 2>the way he you know, conducted himself and how how

1383
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:56.359
<v Speaker 2>much he loved the business and respected it and uh,

1384
01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's truly one of those old school guys

1385
01:16:59.880 --> 01:17:03.279
<v Speaker 2>and loved the business. Just loved the business. It was

1386
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:07.840
<v Speaker 2>in his soul. And uh, you know, all the interactions

1387
01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:12.039
<v Speaker 2>I had with him, you know, we're great. I mean

1388
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:16.159
<v Speaker 2>he was always uh you know, so encouraging and you

1389
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:22.199
<v Speaker 2>know so I think that anybody that knew Kurt loved

1390
01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 2>them and it's tragic the way it all ended up.

1391
01:17:26.600 --> 01:17:28.640
<v Speaker 2>And you hear, you know, some of these people that

1392
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:31.399
<v Speaker 2>talk to this day. And I saw something the other

1393
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:34.840
<v Speaker 2>day from Wade Box talking to me, well that he

1394
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:38.840
<v Speaker 2>he wished that that Kurt had called him and he

1395
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:41.199
<v Speaker 2>and he goes and I where I feel to this day,

1396
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe I could have done something, And so you know,

1397
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:50.159
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just uh, it's it's a tragedy the way

1398
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:52.239
<v Speaker 2>that forty four you know, like wow, if he could

1399
01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:55.039
<v Speaker 2>have just gotten through it, you know, and on the

1400
01:17:55.119 --> 01:17:57.119
<v Speaker 2>other side, so as we always feel it and and

1401
01:17:58.239 --> 01:18:03.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, your life, you know, get healthy again.

1402
01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.600
<v Speaker 2>But you have to get away from the business. He

1403
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:11.560
<v Speaker 2>would have had too, especially at that time. So and

1404
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.039
<v Speaker 2>I think overall though, you also have to credit for

1405
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:18.239
<v Speaker 2>what he did for the business. He kept that old

1406
01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:21.600
<v Speaker 2>school alive during the time that he was. He was

1407
01:18:21.680 --> 01:18:25.560
<v Speaker 2>here and he was a great He was just tremendous.

1408
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:27.239
<v Speaker 2>He was one of the you know, among the top

1409
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:30.560
<v Speaker 2>ever and people I'm sure like Brett Hart will tell you,

1410
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:32.079
<v Speaker 2>and others that spent a lot of time in the

1411
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:35.399
<v Speaker 2>ring with him, we'll say that he definitely was one

1412
01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:37.119
<v Speaker 2>of the best all the way around.

1413
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:37.800
<v Speaker 4>Agreed.

1414
01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:40.359
<v Speaker 3>And in two thousand and two he did come back

1415
01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:43.199
<v Speaker 3>into the ww f E at the time at the

1416
01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Royal rumbul When his music hit the crowd went crazy

1417
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:49.159
<v Speaker 3>and he was around for a few months after that,

1418
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.560
<v Speaker 3>but obviously things happened. But one last rib story I

1419
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:56.079
<v Speaker 3>want to bring up is he went to Road Warrior

1420
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:58.479
<v Speaker 3>Animal's house for a Christmas party.

1421
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:00.720
<v Speaker 4>He went up dares.

1422
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Found a little.

1423
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he found a toilet. He took a giant shit

1424
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:09.319
<v Speaker 3>in it. An animal thought it was his son. He

1425
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:11.760
<v Speaker 3>was so proud to show off the poop to everybody

1426
01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:12.239
<v Speaker 3>that look.

1427
01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:14.279
<v Speaker 4>At my son pooped in the body. It was just

1428
01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:18.600
<v Speaker 4>a giant, mister perfect turn. It was a perfect poop.

1429
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's how we wrap it up here like

1430
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:27.119
<v Speaker 2>a proud father. Look at this, my boy.

1431
01:19:28.239 --> 01:19:30.479
<v Speaker 4>It's a giant mister perfect turn.

1432
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:33.960
<v Speaker 3>And that's how we wrap it up here, folks. No,

1433
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:36.960
<v Speaker 3>not you know, not the sadness that the poop stories

1434
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:40.720
<v Speaker 3>about mister Perfect. But again, thank you everyone for enjoying

1435
01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:43.600
<v Speaker 3>us talking about the golden era of the WWE. Mister

1436
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.439
<v Speaker 3>perfect with today's topic, but check out the past. We

1437
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:50.119
<v Speaker 3>talked about text, Tornado, the Heart Foundation, the British Bulldogs,

1438
01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Hogan Versus Warriors, Savage, so many other people. But thank

1439
01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:55.960
<v Speaker 3>you again Shaw Mouney for sharing your passionate stories today

1440
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.680
<v Speaker 3>in the golden era. I'm see fall he shah Mouni

1441
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:00.960
<v Speaker 3>have a wonderful day and we'll see you next time.

1442
01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Bye bye.

1443
01:20:03.319 --> 01:20:04.560
<v Speaker 2>It's a golden age.

1444
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh, tell me me talk Dewey.

1445
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Got to the life the fantasy, step in the ringfield history,

1446
01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:16.880
<v Speaker 1>talking to the gold and tell me to talk, Dewey