Speaker 1: I'm Jesse Junior walking forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior
Speaker 1: show up on BLA Talk fifteen eighty yesterday walk Haigan Boy.
Speaker 1: I delivered the speech that I'm word at Martin Luther
Speaker 1: King Junior's speech on April fourth, nineteen sex seven that
Speaker 1: he titled Beyond Vietnam, Time to Break the Silence. I
Speaker 1: titled my speech Beyond Venezuela A Time to Break the Silence.
Speaker 1: I hope it was inspiring to people that were in attendance.
Speaker 1: It's also available on my Facebook page, Jesse Jackson Junior.
Speaker 1: It's got a little check next to my name Jesse
Speaker 1: Jackson Junior Facebook page. You'll see the you scroll down,
Speaker 1: you'll see the Beyond Venezuela speech. I want to share
Speaker 1: with you very quickly before I bring up our Tenacious
Speaker 1: Tuesday host Barber arn Wine. How I concluded, I concluded
Speaker 1: with a how Doctor Howard Thurman began and opened his book.
Speaker 1: He talked about his family in the deep Ryal South,
Speaker 1: having pulled together all of the moneies that they could
Speaker 1: find because they wanted one child in the Jim Crow
Speaker 1: era as sharecroppers to be able to go to school
Speaker 1: and to go to college. So they pulled together their
Speaker 1: pennies and their nickels and their quarters, and they bought
Speaker 1: doctor Thurman a ticket, a ticket on a train to
Speaker 1: Daytona Fort, Florida, where they were allowing colored children to
Speaker 1: be talked. Doctor Thurman took his ticket, and he took
Speaker 1: his trunk, and he put all of his important items
Speaker 1: of his life, the broken pieces of his life, his memories,
Speaker 1: and he put them all in a trunk and he
Speaker 1: aded to the train station. And when he got there,
Speaker 1: he presented his ticket, but the ticket agent or the
Speaker 1: conductor refused to let his bag on the train, the
Speaker 1: train of all the bag with all of his memories.
Speaker 1: So he went over into the corner of the train
Speaker 1: station and he began crying. It was a devastating moment
Speaker 1: for him because he had lost hope. He had concluded
Speaker 1: that he was not going to go to college because
Speaker 1: he did not want to leave his trunk. So, staring
Speaker 1: deep into a puddle of tears and saliva and yes, mucus,
Speaker 1: he was drained. Everything was draining. When he wiped away
Speaker 1: the tears from his eyes, and he looked up and
Speaker 1: he saw a rustic, old pair of brown, beat up
Speaker 1: boots and he looked from the floor and kept looking
Speaker 1: up and saw a man standing there and overalls that
Speaker 1: were tattered as well, and the young the old man
Speaker 1: said to him, boy was wrong with you? And he said,
Speaker 1: I got a ticket to go to Daytona to go
Speaker 1: to school and go to college. But I can't take
Speaker 1: my trunk. I don't have a ticket for my trunk,
Speaker 1: so I've changed my mind. I'm not going to go.
Speaker 1: The man reached into his pocket, pulled out a little
Speaker 1: leather sack with a drawstring, and pulled out a few
Speaker 1: coins and went to the ticket agent and he bought
Speaker 1: a ticket for Howard Thurman's bag is trunk. Howard Thurman
Speaker 1: dedicated his book to that man. When he got on
Speaker 1: that train, he walked to the back of the train,
Speaker 1: and all he remembers is the man walking in the
Speaker 1: opposite direction on the train tracks as the train was
Speaker 1: pulling away. He said he never got the man's name.
Speaker 1: He dedicated his book with Head and Heart to a
Speaker 1: man that he called the Stranger, and he thanked him
Speaker 1: for restoring his hope. Doctor Howard Thurman would go on
Speaker 1: to become a spiritual leader and guide to the late
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Junior, And in this moment, I can't
Speaker 1: help but think that we need to pay more attention
Speaker 1: to the strangers in our lives, those who are nameless
Speaker 1: and faceless, because in my opinion, the stranger is God.
Speaker 1: God intervened in Howard Thurman's life at just the right time,
Speaker 1: and he went on to become the architect of our
Speaker 1: liberation faith. I'm very honored in this hour. The Barbara Arnwine,
Speaker 1: President and founder the Transformative Justice Coalition, internationally renowned for
Speaker 1: contributions on critical justice issues, including the passage of the
Speaker 1: landmark Civil Rights Act of nineteen ninety one and the
Speaker 1: two thousand and six reauthorization provisions of the Voting Rights Act,
Speaker 1: is our very special guest, Attorney Arnwine, Welcome forward to
Speaker 1: the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 2: It's great to be here.
Speaker 3: Good evening, good afternoon. It's just wonderful to be here.
Speaker 1: I am so grateful that you're here, doctor Arnwine. Attorney
Speaker 1: Barbara Arnwine, tell us what's going on in the world
Speaker 1: and what we should be focusing on.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for that Howard Thurman story.
Speaker 3: I had never heard that one, and it's beautiful and
Speaker 3: it's so instructive to all of us about the importance
Speaker 3: of strangers. You know, in the Biblical times, it was
Speaker 3: considered simple right to treat strangers poorly and you were
Speaker 3: required to show some so uh, you know, care compassion
Speaker 3: for strangers. That's why the road of Somarthia, right, it
Speaker 3: is always talked about in the uh you know, in
Speaker 3: the biblical tradition. Uh So that's just so powerful. I
Speaker 3: just loved that story.
Speaker 2: And he was going to Daytona. So what he was going.
Speaker 3: To to uh be you know at one of the
Speaker 3: amazing you know schools that we know we're founded, you know,
Speaker 3: thereby you know, some of our incredible you know leaders.
Speaker 2: So it's it's just quite quite the story.
Speaker 3: I I have been, of course, thinking about doctor King.
Speaker 2: And Coretta Scott King.
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about them with such a passion this
Speaker 3: week because last week your president decided to disrespect everybody right.
Speaker 3: The first thing he did was he declared, uh publicly
Speaker 3: that the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four nineties
Speaker 3: and the Voting Rights Act in nineteen sixty five fair
Speaker 3: housing activ.
Speaker 1: And information that worked.
Speaker 2: By his timing, by he would use this opportunity so
Speaker 2: close to this holiday to make such a races statement.
Speaker 2: And folks, the.
Speaker 3: Reason why I say is it's ridiculous is that if
Speaker 3: you know anything about employment law, which is you know,
Speaker 3: a big part of the nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act,
Speaker 3: the Title seven, you'll know that it's helped too.
Speaker 1: Your show on k Bilge Look fifteen eighty, we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about Trump and what he did last week
Speaker 1: with Barbara Arnwe more on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty when
Speaker 1: we come forward. Our very special guest on Tenacious Tuesday
Speaker 1: is Barbara Arnwine, the president and founder of the Transformative
Speaker 1: Justice Coalition. Just before we came forward, you were talking
Speaker 1: about the president's speech and comments that he made. I
Speaker 1: believe he also tweeted it as well. Yes, a direct
Speaker 1: attacked on nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act, the Voting
Speaker 1: Rights Act, as well as the open housing legislation. Yes,
Speaker 1: jewels of the civil rights movement.
Speaker 3: And he was making it very clear that he was
Speaker 3: playing the zero sum game. He was telling white Americas
Speaker 3: that somehow these acts had harmed them, that they were
Speaker 3: quote bad for white people.
Speaker 2: He lied.
Speaker 3: He lied because first of all, his comments were just
Speaker 3: meant to be racially divisive he was trying to make
Speaker 3: white people resent black people and make impositive himself with
Speaker 3: somehow their great white Hope, the great Savior.
Speaker 2: But his premise is just factually inaccurate.
Speaker 3: Because white women were some of the biggest benefish series
Speaker 3: of the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four because
Speaker 3: it covered race, age, national origin, sex.
Speaker 2: So people got to understand that.
Speaker 3: It also required Entitled seven that any job criteria had
Speaker 3: to be job related.
Speaker 2: Guess who that benefited, not just white women, it benefited
Speaker 2: white men. Think about it.
Speaker 3: When I grew up, if you wanted to be a
Speaker 3: police officer, they insisted that you be what at least
Speaker 3: five eleven six feet tall, and it was you know quote.
Speaker 3: They felt that was more intimidating to people on the street.
Speaker 3: So even white men who were shorter than that couldn't
Speaker 3: get a job, not get a job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to share that. I would have shared
Speaker 1: that because Dad and I often laugh at that particular
Speaker 1: application of the law. Yes, let me expound upon that.
Speaker 1: Do you realize that short white men could not be
Speaker 1: state troopers in Alabama and and Texas and louis in
Speaker 1: Georgia and the Deep South because they were short? Right?
Speaker 1: They had a requirement and you had to be six
Speaker 1: feet plus or taller and top more over people in
Speaker 1: order to be a state trooper. Now, what kind of
Speaker 1: qualification is that other than that the Civil Rights Act
Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty four and that subsequent legislation laid the
Speaker 1: foundation for them to have a claim of discrimination based
Speaker 1: on their height or base their weight. Doesn't just benefit
Speaker 1: black people. It made America better.
Speaker 3: It made so many need people better, including American with disabilities,
Speaker 3: because people had all these rights, They had all these
Speaker 3: really bizarre notions about who was best for jobs, and
Speaker 3: they had nothing to do with their capabilities and their abilities.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, prior to the pre nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: four civil rights era was one of massive non meritocracy,
Speaker 3: massive non you know competence in you know, uh, you know, incompetence,
Speaker 3: and people just don't understand that.
Speaker 2: And so you know, he just totally missed, miss talked
Speaker 2: that era. You know, by the way, when we were
Speaker 2: talking about howd Thurman I was, it was Mary.
Speaker 3: McLeod mccoon's university that he probably was headed to the
Speaker 3: Daytona Beach.
Speaker 2: How I just had to you know, put that up.
Speaker 3: Of course, during the break because Mary McLeod was so amazing,
Speaker 3: uh and so committed to education your people.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm thinking also that uh that, Barbara, we
Speaker 1: have to give some consideration in light of our reflection
Speaker 1: on Martin Luther King Junior, that what's taking place in
Speaker 1: South America, from Cuba to Haiti, to Colombia to Venezuela,
Speaker 1: even the attacks on Nigeria and now the president's desire
Speaker 1: to it feeling it feels inevitable that he's going to
Speaker 1: provide some kind of military action in Greenland. Barbara, bring
Speaker 1: us up to date on your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: Yes, a couple of things everyone. First of all, I
Speaker 3: wish I had a picture and Gena, if you do,
Speaker 3: please share it. Doctor Martin Luther King getting his Nobel
Speaker 3: Peace Prize, uh, because somebody else we know don't.
Speaker 2: Have one, losing his little mind over.
Speaker 4: It and even even playing geo political politics on the
Speaker 4: basis of does he get a little Nobel prize try
Speaker 4: to steal somebody else's right?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: So I just want people to understand that, you know,
Speaker 3: one of my favorite speeches is, in fact doctor King's
Speaker 3: acceptance speech for the Nobel Prize Peace Prize why is
Speaker 3: that important? Please go listen to that speech. He talks
Speaker 3: about that. You know, he talks in at length about
Speaker 3: the fact that he's accepting that prize not for himself,
Speaker 3: but he's accepting it for all the people who suffered
Speaker 3: and fought for the for civil rights, all the people
Speaker 3: who were in the streets. He talks about those who
Speaker 3: were killed, He talks about those who were maimed and injured.
Speaker 3: He talks about the water hosing of you know people
Speaker 3: by these evil you know forces, police forces. He talks
Speaker 3: about the beings. He talks about all of that, and
Speaker 3: he said, these are the people, this is who I
Speaker 3: accept this award for because they're the ones who get.
Speaker 2: All this work, and I'm just a figurehead, a spokesperson.
Speaker 3: He's very clear about it. He also takes his time
Speaker 3: in that speech to talk about the truth. You know,
Speaker 3: what he's called many times the three triplets of evil,
Speaker 3: and that's racism, militarism, and materialism. Yes, and he spends
Speaker 3: a lot of time on militarism and American colonialism and
Speaker 3: European colonialism, and he even talks about the struggle against
Speaker 3: apartheid in South Africa, and that speech he talks about
Speaker 3: humanity's need to stop being so you know, greedy, you know,
Speaker 3: and enslaving. People are pressing people because you want their resources, right,
Speaker 3: you want their mineral resources. He talks about this, and
Speaker 3: he talks about the cruelty of your colonial and settler behavior.
Speaker 2: So I won't go read that speech because when you
Speaker 2: read the speech or you.
Speaker 3: Listen to it, you realize what Deveezuela is about, because
Speaker 3: that brings it fully home.
Speaker 2: I mean you're like, you know, as they said the law,
Speaker 2: I had to connect it up, you know, because you're like,
Speaker 2: where's she going with all this?
Speaker 3: Because you know that militarism is what is driving the US.
Speaker 3: Is that you know, we quote have military power. I
Speaker 3: want everybody to know something. Who is the largest military
Speaker 3: force in the world.
Speaker 2: Think about it, Think.
Speaker 1: About the United States? The United States by multiples? No, no, okay.
Speaker 3: No, it's I mean, and I understand that if you
Speaker 3: go nation by nation, yes, the combined forces of NATAL
Speaker 3: are the largest military force in the whole world. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's what everybody misses. Why do you think he's attacking Greenland?
Speaker 2: It's for the resources.
Speaker 3: I you know, told you guys months ago, a year ago,
Speaker 3: about Peter till it is worn in Greenland and all
Speaker 3: this madness and uh and about you know jd Vance,
Speaker 3: who's depending on teal and why he was the first
Speaker 3: trip he took what was to Greenland and all of this.
Speaker 3: But there's another thing that we got to understand, the
Speaker 3: unraveling of Natal. Who benefits from the unraveling a natal?
Speaker 3: It's not just the US occupying Greenland.
Speaker 2: Who benefits from.
Speaker 6: The unraveling of Natal?
Speaker 2: Mm one pool ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Pu. You know, bro, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question about about that same speech, since we're right
Speaker 1: there at beyond a time to speak. Yes, I did
Speaker 1: a little research. You can google it, and I hope
Speaker 1: that the listeners will google it. Ask the question, what
Speaker 1: was the Dow Jones industrial average at the end of
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty It should say four or four four hundred
Speaker 1: and four. Ask what the Dow Jones industrial average was
Speaker 1: at the hour of Martin Luther King Junior's death. Should
Speaker 1: be around seven I think one thousand. I think one thousand.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the Reagan administration, the Dow Jones
Speaker 1: industrial average seven thousand. At the end of the Obama administration,
Speaker 1: the Dow Jones industrial average nineteen thousand, and this is
Speaker 1: the indicator for the US economy today. Today. Last Friday,
Speaker 1: the Dow Jones closed at forty nine thousand.
Speaker 6: That's correct.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to say this because I believe we
Speaker 1: have reached a tipping point Historically, in this two hundred
Speaker 1: and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution
Speaker 1: has guided the economy in the direction of human rights
Speaker 1: that benefit all of the American people. It has benefited
Speaker 1: people around the world, but it's certainly prioritize the American people.
Speaker 1: The new technology which doctor King also talks about in
Speaker 1: that speech, computers and machinery have now reached the point
Speaker 1: that the profit maximization system of the United States does
Speaker 1: not need people any longer in order to maximize profit.
Speaker 1: So when the down Jones hits sixty thousand and some
Speaker 1: of us celebrate, or seventy thousand or eighty thousand, a
Speaker 1: smaller number of people are going to be operating the
Speaker 1: most efficient businesses in human history, and they don't need
Speaker 1: people to operate them. That's a real problem, yes, or civilization.
Speaker 1: That's a problem for our moral code. Making revolution in
Speaker 1: the United States inevitable as people can't get a sand
Speaker 1: and can't get a lot of red, and can't afford
Speaker 1: their mortgages, and can't afford to put their children through school.
Speaker 1: When our quality inevitability until the Congress of the United States,
Speaker 1: the Senate, the courts reign the economic system in in
Speaker 1: the direction of human rights for all of the American people.
Speaker 3: Barbara, Oh, you said it.
Speaker 2: You said it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if people saw it, but
Speaker 3: please look up Elon Musk's his speech from last week
Speaker 3: where he talks about this very issue and he tells
Speaker 3: people has learned to tell people don't save up for retirement.
Speaker 2: Did you see that?
Speaker 1: That's what he said.
Speaker 3: He said, don't save up for retirement because you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have robots doing everything and everybody's gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: And I'm going, huh, how what what are.
Speaker 2: You talking about?
Speaker 3: You know, all of this stuff, because he but he
Speaker 3: was talking about this people. Every time the unemployment rate
Speaker 3: goes up, the dow goes up. It's it's one of
Speaker 3: those you know things. They don't they don't listen. They're
Speaker 3: not about everybody being employed. They're about you know, making
Speaker 3: as much money as they can. They're so happy about
Speaker 3: this whole Venezuela madness. And you know, there's a little
Speaker 3: bit on the fence about Greenland because they know what
Speaker 3: it means if natal disbands or you know, gets shredded.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot, you know, going on there.
Speaker 3: But I just think that in this country, I was
Speaker 3: reading these stats, we have what three hundred and thirty
Speaker 3: plus million people, twenty two million of those folks, I
Speaker 3: have a networth of at least a million dollar, and
Speaker 3: nine hundred and two people are billionaires. Nine hundred and
Speaker 3: two people in the United States are billionaires.
Speaker 2: Come on, think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the upward tift of income and wealth in that
Speaker 1: direction has us constantly battling with members of our representatives,
Speaker 1: of our House of Representatives, asking for more and more benefits.
Speaker 1: Remember now, the Affordable Care Act, which covers forty four
Speaker 1: million people. Yes, are people who work every day but
Speaker 1: can't afford healthcare. So the Affordable Care Act directs healthcare
Speaker 1: in the direction of more coverage. Yes, we need dental,
Speaker 1: we need vision, we need hearing. The Affordable Care Act
Speaker 1: does not cover a lot, but it wasn't meant just
Speaker 1: to be static. It was meant to be improved upon
Speaker 1: and expanded to include more coverage so that more working
Speaker 1: Americans could experience the benefits of the system. Yes, the
Speaker 1: supplemental Nutrition Assistance program. Yes, we're working one, two and
Speaker 1: three jobs and still can't afford to eat. These numbers
Speaker 1: are going to expand, and they're going to expand drastically.
Speaker 1: If in fact, we do not have a government of
Speaker 1: for and by the people, not a government of for
Speaker 1: and by computers and algorithms, but for the people, were people.
Speaker 7: And government of all the guards, of all of ours,
Speaker 7: all of guards, all of guards.
Speaker 3: All they care about is making money. I mean, come on,
Speaker 3: they're going to support making anybody.
Speaker 1: That's all they do. I'm Jesse Jackson Junior listening to
Speaker 1: the Jesse Jackson Junior Show on KBL Talk fifteen eighty more.
Speaker 1: When we come forward with Barbara on Wine or did
Speaker 1: the Jesse Jackson Junior Show, We're on the grind with
Speaker 1: Barbara arn Wine and Barbara before we return to the conversation,
Speaker 1: we're still waiting for the Kalai decision. Yes, are you
Speaker 1: at it shortly? Are you expecting it this week or
Speaker 1: maybe next week?
Speaker 2: No, it's not clear.
Speaker 3: They did issue two other decisions today. Then they were yes,
Speaker 3: and they were a unanimous decisions. So the court so
Speaker 3: non we're voting, but it's telling that they did issue
Speaker 3: that means what they've issued our five decisions now, so
Speaker 3: it's everybody is on their pins and needles over Trump
Speaker 3: versus Cook argument tomorrow, the oral argument.
Speaker 2: In that case.
Speaker 3: Will you know Trump versus Lisa Cook, That argument will
Speaker 3: be tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But and people are just talking about the tariff's case.
Speaker 2: So it may be.
Speaker 3: Remember when the court does something that is absolutely horrific
Speaker 3: that they know is gonna make people scream and holler
Speaker 3: and go to the polls and vote and just be outraged.
Speaker 3: They hold those decisions until until the very last opinion
Speaker 3: issuing date of the term usually you know, July first
Speaker 3: or whatever, because they know people aren't paying attention.
Speaker 1: So we've got a minute, Barbara, Since we got a minute,
Speaker 1: I want we want to go to a clip based
Speaker 1: on our last conversation h that Genia was able to
Speaker 1: pull up. Based upon your request.
Speaker 5: Your Majesty, Your Royal Highness, Mister President, Excellences, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 5: I accept the Nobel for peace. At a moment when
Speaker 5: twenty two million Negroes of the United States are engaged
Speaker 5: in a creative battle to end the long night of
Speaker 5: racial injustice. I accept this award on behalf of a
Speaker 5: civil rights movement which is moving with determination and a
Speaker 5: majestic scorn for risk and danger to establish a reign
Speaker 5: of freedom and a rule of justice. I'm mindful that
Speaker 5: only yesterday in Birmingham, Alabama, our children crying out for
Speaker 5: brotherhood were answered with fire, snarling dogs, and even death.
Speaker 5: I am mindful that only yesterday in Philadelphia, Mississippi, young
Speaker 5: people seeking to secure the right to vote were brutalized
Speaker 5: and murdered. I'm mindful that debilitating and grinding poverty afflicts
Speaker 5: my people and chains him to the lowest rung of
Speaker 5: the economic latter. Therefore, I must ask why this prize
Speaker 5: is awarded to a movement which is beleaguered and committed
Speaker 5: to unrelenting struggle, to a movement which has not yet
Speaker 5: won the very peace and brotherhood which is the essence
Speaker 5: of the Nobel Prize. After contemplation, I conclude that this award,
Speaker 5: which I receive on behal for that movement, is a
Speaker 5: profound recognition that nonviolence is the answer to the crucial
Speaker 5: political and moral questions of our time, the need for
Speaker 5: man to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to violence
Speaker 5: and oppression. Civilization and violence are antithetical concepts. Negroes of
Speaker 5: the United States, following the people of India, have demonstrated
Speaker 5: that nonviolence is not sterile passivity, but a powerful moral
Speaker 5: force which makes for social transformation. Sooner or later, all
Speaker 5: the peoples of the world will have to discover a
Speaker 5: way to live together in peace and thereby transform this
Speaker 5: pending cosmic elogy into a creative psalm of brotherhood. This
Speaker 5: is to be achieved. Man must evolve for all human
Speaker 5: conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The
Speaker 5: foundation of such a method is love.
Speaker 3: My my life.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Gina Barbara.
Speaker 1: We've never had a leader like that. The tone, the tenor,
Speaker 1: the audience, the mobile community was paying attention to our
Speaker 1: movement and our struggle at that hour. I'm wondering, in
Speaker 1: this moment if the great dissenters in the United States
Speaker 1: and the great resistance movement that exists within the United
Speaker 1: States can pick up the mantle of the tone and
Speaker 1: the tenor of Doctor King's mass demand for nonviolent action.
Speaker 1: At an hour when our very liberties are at stake.
Speaker 6: Barbara, my bye, mine, buye my.
Speaker 8: I mean that speech gives me chills. I'm sorry, it
Speaker 8: just gives me chills to think about it, because just
Speaker 8: look at you have the contrast of values.
Speaker 3: Right. You got a president in the White House who
Speaker 3: is proud to take somebody else's mobile prize, who wants
Speaker 3: everything that he never worked for, who is detegrating the people?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I want to do a shout out if you allow
Speaker 3: me to some young people who last week were brutally
Speaker 3: treated in North Carolina as they fought to just get
Speaker 3: a polling site on their campus. I want to talk
Speaker 3: about the students of North Carolina, A and t am
Speaker 3: and your dad's college, your college college, and my sister.
Speaker 6: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: So they had a petitioned their local county government for.
Speaker 3: A polling site for early vote I mean, for you know,
Speaker 3: the primaries, and they were told no.
Speaker 2: So they took it to the North Carolin on a
Speaker 2: Board of Elections meeting.
Speaker 3: And guess what they did. Those those people, these grown
Speaker 3: people appointed by the UH, by the UH, not the governor,
Speaker 3: because they stole that and gave it to I believe
Speaker 3: to the auditor.
Speaker 2: And that power to a point. And these folks sat
Speaker 2: there and had the nerve to say, I wanna can't
Speaker 2: I wanna vote. That's a good Yeah, I wanna vote.
Speaker 9: Making fun of the students, mocking them, making fun of
Speaker 9: them so and I could tell from our radio show
Speaker 9: earlier today when they were on that that hurt them.
Speaker 2: It dispirited them.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna have to pick up on this one.
Speaker 1: We come forward. I'm Jesse Jackson Junior on k A
Speaker 1: Talk fifteen eighty. Goaggi's I'm Jesse Jackson Junior, forward with Barbara.
Speaker 1: On one Jesse showed us final second this hour with
Speaker 1: Attorney Barbara arn Wine. It's tenacious Tuesdays on the Jay
Speaker 1: Lunch Club. Right here on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty our
Speaker 1: very special guest, Barbara Arnwine is the president and founder
Speaker 1: of the Transformative Justice Coalition. Barbara, have to take care
Speaker 1: of a few householding issues here first. How can we
Speaker 1: support you in your work?
Speaker 3: You can go to TJ Coalition dot org, TJ Coalition
Speaker 3: dot RG. And I want to thank everybody who gives them.
Speaker 3: You know, the donations have ranged from ten dollars, twenty
Speaker 3: five fifty whatever you know. We just want people to
Speaker 3: know we appreciate it, and so please do give to
Speaker 3: Tjcoalition dot org because, as I was just saying before
Speaker 3: we went to the break, voter suppression is up and
Speaker 3: running definitely. In North Carolina.
Speaker 1: Forty five years ago. Forty five years ago or maybe
Speaker 1: forty two years ago, when I was a student of
Speaker 1: North Carolina, AG registered Scott Hall, we registered Cooper Hall,
Speaker 1: we registered Barbie Hall, we registered Alex Haley Hall. We
Speaker 1: registered all the students to vote, and at that time
Speaker 1: there were about forty two hundred students at A and
Speaker 1: T's campus. Forty two We made the County Board of
Speaker 1: Elections put a polling place in the student union there
Speaker 1: you go, student union, which has now been replaced with
Speaker 1: a new magnificent facility, and they put polling places there.
Speaker 1: In fact, in that race between Howard Cobel and Howard Britt,
Speaker 1: Howard Britt lost the election by sixty votes, was entirely
Speaker 1: registered to vote. Britt's campaign chose to land a helicopter
Speaker 1: at UNCG University of North Carolina in Greensboro on the
Speaker 1: day of the election, where no students were registered to vote.
Speaker 1: That was the White school had he landed it on
Speaker 1: A and t's campus, he would not have lost that
Speaker 1: election by sixty votes and generrated the excitement on our
Speaker 1: campus given that we had registered the students to vote.
Speaker 1: We fought to have a polling place on our campus.
Speaker 1: And it's just amazing for me to hear that, you know,
Speaker 1: forty two forty years later, A and T, with more
Speaker 1: than twenty thousand students, many of whom live in cities
Speaker 1: all across this country, have registered in great numbers to
Speaker 1: vote in North Carolina. The loss wherever you spent the
Speaker 1: last three nights in a row is where you live.
Speaker 1: And they registered in North Carolina. And the North Carolina
Speaker 1: Board of Elections does not want to have a polling
Speaker 1: place at A and T's campus. Why because their votes
Speaker 1: can shape not only national election in North Carolina. A
Speaker 1: and T has enough students to determine who the mayor
Speaker 1: of Greensboro.
Speaker 2: Is right and so.
Speaker 3: And for that very reason, they've banned all they've banned
Speaker 3: UNC Greensboro, as you mentioned, and they've banned you know,
Speaker 3: polling sites and all of them.
Speaker 2: They don't want students to vote.
Speaker 3: This is cletand Mitchell's madness about you know, we if
Speaker 3: we're going to win, we got to suppress the vote
Speaker 3: to students because they're.
Speaker 2: Too quote liberal and they're voting.
Speaker 6: Listen.
Speaker 2: The other thing they did was that they killed sols
Speaker 2: to the polls.
Speaker 3: Voting in several counties. They also relocated polling places to
Speaker 3: very very difficult locations.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 3: I want you to think, if you're a student at
Speaker 3: eight at A and T, you have to walk to
Speaker 3: this polling place. Their nearest polling place is a twenty
Speaker 3: five to thirty minute walk away. You know what this
Speaker 3: means and how oppressive this is. And don't be telling
Speaker 3: me about oh, well they got all.
Speaker 2: These buses and stuff. No, it's not that.
Speaker 3: It's just rome what they did, and they did make
Speaker 3: a mockery of the students. So I want to call
Speaker 3: out Xavian Davis, Anayah Marshall, Kayla Jackson, mister Olu Ruth.
Speaker 2: And all the students who they throughout get ready for this.
Speaker 3: When the students protested, they threw them out of the They.
Speaker 2: Had enforcably removed from the meeting.
Speaker 3: So I want people to understand that these students.
Speaker 2: They're not giving up.
Speaker 3: They're going to keep on pushing until they get their
Speaker 3: polling place. But I want to understand that they are
Speaker 3: walking in doctor Kington's tradition, They're walking in your desk tradition,
Speaker 3: They're walking in Alan Baker's tradition, and the Fannieluhamer.
Speaker 2: And everyone else.
Speaker 3: So this week, of all weeks, you know, I want
Speaker 3: us to show some love to the students at North Carolina. Ante.
Speaker 1: We may have to walk in march right down Market
Speaker 1: Street the entire campus to the voter location you got
Speaker 1: it in city Hall and vote in person. We need
Speaker 1: to prepare a massive march of registered Aggie's you got it,
Speaker 1: walk about a mind well in the middle of the
Speaker 1: street to cast our ballot, which is and are our rights? Barbara.
Speaker 1: We have about four minutes to close. Please your word
Speaker 1: of hope.
Speaker 3: Yes, a couple of things everyone. This Friday, you know
Speaker 3: today was the nation was the walk out on fascist
Speaker 3: uh and many people did it.
Speaker 2: We're grateful to them.
Speaker 3: It was very you know, DC based, But I'm also
Speaker 3: grateful to the Women's March that made this happen. But
Speaker 3: on Friday there's a national call for a general strike
Speaker 3: and they're asking people because of the murders of not
Speaker 3: only Renee Good, but Keith Porter and so many others,
Speaker 3: and the maining and the occupation of our cities by
Speaker 3: ice UH and UH the other you know, unlawful police
Speaker 3: UH tactics, including racial profiling.
Speaker 2: They're asking for people.
Speaker 3: Every We're to walk out of your jobs, walk out
Speaker 3: of schools, don't buy anything, just a day of strike.
Speaker 3: So this is the first national attempt to have a
Speaker 3: general strike. And I hope that people will take this
Speaker 3: to heart and that you will do what you can
Speaker 3: in this moment, because doctor King did everything you can
Speaker 3: and that he could in the moment.
Speaker 1: Give us that date again for the idea of a
Speaker 1: national strike.
Speaker 2: That date Friday, January the twenty third.
Speaker 1: Right, did January twenty third be ready? What is expected
Speaker 1: of us to not go to work that day or
Speaker 1: to not not do.
Speaker 3: Anything, not go not to We don't want people you know, shopping,
Speaker 3: we don't want people you know.
Speaker 2: Going to school. We don't want people going to work.
Speaker 2: We want people to.
Speaker 3: Gather and talk and reflect and talk about how we
Speaker 3: preserve our democracy. We want people to study doctor King,
Speaker 3: to study all of the efforts of nonviolent resistance and
Speaker 3: the world. And we want people to make their voices
Speaker 3: heard on you know on social media and let folks
Speaker 3: know what they're doing, but make them pay.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: The reality is the business sector is unconsortably quiet. But
Speaker 3: oh but one thing you should note a number of
Speaker 3: the Minnesota businesses have nonced they are just gonna close
Speaker 3: on Friday.
Speaker 2: They're not even going to open Friday, They're just gonna close.
Speaker 3: So I just think, you know, the business sector has
Speaker 3: a lot to do with what's going on.
Speaker 2: These oler guards. It's all about money.
Speaker 3: That's all they care about, all nine hundred and two
Speaker 3: of them in the United States. Plus, I think it's
Speaker 3: just imperative that we the people, you know, take our
Speaker 3: future into our hands, which is all Doctor King never
Speaker 3: asked us to do.
Speaker 1: Who would have ever thought we would be at this
Speaker 1: location and at this place at this time in the
Speaker 1: history of our nation. I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. You've been
Speaker 1: listening to Barbara Arnw This is Tenacious Tuesday on the
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson Junior Show. Barbara can't wait, We can't wait
Speaker 1: until I see you again next week.
Speaker 2: Thank you? And don Lemon, don't let them get you down.
Speaker 1: Don't get it nothing done, don't let it happen. I'm
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson Junior. You've been listening to the Jesse Jackson
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