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<v Speaker 1>Folks at home.

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<v Speaker 2>As you can tell, this is not the voice of

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<v Speaker 2>one Michael James Maharty.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is Dan Reichert.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Maharty, based on his most recent Instagram story, is

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<v Speaker 2>looking at maps of the Champagne region of France. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not kidding. That is his most recent Instagram story is

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<v Speaker 2>he got new books about the Champagne region of France

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<v Speaker 2>and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is pouring over the maps.

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<v Speaker 2>Mary is working, she's a professional, she's doing a traveling

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<v Speaker 2>for work right now. But I've lost my co host here.

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<v Speaker 2>I've lost my good friends Mike and Mary. But you

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<v Speaker 2>know what they say, when you lose your co host

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<v Speaker 2>on a podcast, You look to your blood. You look

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<v Speaker 2>to the click, You look to the Blake Club. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll grub that was you're doing the nWo guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>That was actually a DX reference.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're gonna mix our metaphors here.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike, Mary aren't here. So my fifty percent wrestling rule

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<v Speaker 2>is off the table. So it's rub bonanza. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't stop it. They're all scrambling in their cars to

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<v Speaker 2>hit stop on this.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just driving off of cliffs right now. Well, then

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<v Speaker 4>that's the fascinating to WrestleMania.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the roadblock, brother, Okay, this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>the one rest people get for me talking about wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>I will attempt to honor that on the vire Escape

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<v Speaker 2>cast here despite it being literally WrestleMania week.

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<v Speaker 4>How could this is cruel and unusual? I would say, fellas, Yeah, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>don't don't blame us. We're not gonna hold you do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care if you break your rule.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost a part of me that's like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>like really old, growing up Catholic stuff. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>they could just do WrestleMania on Eastern. Yeah, Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>a loud out.

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<v Speaker 2>About being you know, many beautiful things about growing up Catholic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think getting like ninety days off for Easter was good.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot you got. You got your good Fridays, got

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<v Speaker 2>your silly Saturdays, you got whatever Easter is.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have Monday. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get a separate spring break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah I think so. Yeah. Yeah. School sometimes days

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<v Speaker 3>blended together. I don't know, there's all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We just went to church one day a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday was my Mass day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I can't remember you just kind of sat

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<v Speaker 3>there and like it was, you know, church was pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good compared to class, so you kind of took that

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<v Speaker 3>and stride.

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<v Speaker 2>It was tough for me because in class I would

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<v Speaker 2>like doodle a lot. I got the office for doodling

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<v Speaker 2>mortal combat fatalities and stuff like that, and I kid

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<v Speaker 2>you not, what this is probably incredibly sacrilegious. What I

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<v Speaker 2>did to pastime in mass was because I couldn't doodle

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<v Speaker 2>and I just had severe add as a child. And

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<v Speaker 2>I would just look around at all the stained glass

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<v Speaker 2>and you would see like, oh, here's all the signs

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<v Speaker 2>of the Cross. Here's this guy helping Jesus carry the cross.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's you know, these dudes putting them up on the cross.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the guy's name who helped Jesus with the Christ?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he the guy who wiped his face with the

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<v Speaker 2>shroud of turn?

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was specifically, like who helped him with

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<v Speaker 4>the cross? I'm sorry, crosscar Derek was the other guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would just look around at all because I

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<v Speaker 2>always let stained glass looked cool as hell, and I was,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would just picture all of them coming to

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<v Speaker 2>life and jumping out and causing the scene, like if

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen an End of Days, it's almost like this

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<v Speaker 2>huge like fight inside of a church with like all

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<v Speaker 2>of these Catholic and religious figures and stuff fighting it out,

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<v Speaker 2>and basically it's his Mortal kmbat, Like this is the

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<v Speaker 2>period of my life where everything was Mortal Kombat.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yeah, Simon, by the way, it was Simon, not

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<v Speaker 3>sam I was close.

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<v Speaker 2>There were uh who were the signs of the cross?

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<v Speaker 2>He fell down, he needed help getting up, he had

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<v Speaker 2>to have his face wiped.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, where did it start? Did it literally start?

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<v Speaker 4>Like we won't talk about wrestling, everybody back to what

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<v Speaker 4>really matters.

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<v Speaker 2>We got an email saying, hey, I listened to Firescape

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<v Speaker 2>for games talk, not for political agendas, which confused me.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get into religion.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what they really Let's rank the religions of

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<v Speaker 3>the world. That's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, honestly, And I said honestly instead of for shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at me. I disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Jesus like I went to Catholic school. I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up here in Catholic school.

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<v Speaker 4>You went to school with Jesus?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I knows day eighties, nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like Jesus got arrested right or like put

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<v Speaker 2>to death, but like I couldn't. I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>right now what he got like arrested for by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the big thing was he went into so so

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<v Speaker 3>they turned the church into a market, right that people

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<v Speaker 3>are just saying something.

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<v Speaker 1>He flipped the tables.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so hey flipped the tables and he freaked out

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<v Speaker 3>and he got mad. So like there they're all real

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<v Speaker 3>happy like him. Now, yes, yes, let's get the tables

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<v Speaker 3>assignmon It's like, okay, now we actually got him for

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<v Speaker 3>a for a real crime. I almost said she they

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<v Speaker 3>got him for a crime, so they were real excited.

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<v Speaker 3>That was still, you know, kind of bs and Jesus

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<v Speaker 3>had a pretty good point. But I always laughed because

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<v Speaker 3>so many churches now mega churches, even some nice just

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<v Speaker 3>Catholic ones, have gift shops, and I'm like, man, this

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<v Speaker 3>is specifically the thing that Jesus like got really mad

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<v Speaker 3>at that one time.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, during high school, I wrote when I was

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<v Speaker 2>really getting into my student films and stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>was making, I wrote a short film called the Jesus Project,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was about Jesus coming back and it was

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<v Speaker 2>about just him reacting to I guess that was.

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<v Speaker 4>The name of Trump's political platform, I think, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Project twenty five. Yeah, and it was about like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>him just reacting. It was like a comedy, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was about him reacting to like, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like nineteen ninety nine probably when I with this, and

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<v Speaker 2>but it was very you know, well, he gets like

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<v Speaker 2>I think he gets addicted to heroin or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's like I remember my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling my mom about this, and despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that I've never heard her talk about Jesus or

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<v Speaker 2>church or anything religious whatsoever, she was very much just like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't believe that in this household, and like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Very offended that you But I think it's because she

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<v Speaker 1>was married to a guy at the time. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very Catholic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oddly enough, I also wrote my own thing about

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus coming back in high school. It's called Jesus. It

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<v Speaker 3>was called Jesus to the musical. Yeah, I don't remember much.

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<v Speaker 3>One song went like It's a wonderful Morning for Jesus

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<v Speaker 3>something like that. I still had that one.

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<v Speaker 4>All of the weird that you both share starts here

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<v Speaker 4>it's all school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I went to Catholic school. There's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of me and my keys. I don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, yeah, you guys definitely don't or stand out even

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<v Speaker 4>from that crowd. But boy, something happened there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh uh oh man, and other things about this is

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<v Speaker 2>a good guy, this is Dan, this is my dad's

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<v Speaker 2>high school best friend. And Katie and Kaylea, my sister's dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up with him. Great dude, but very Catholic.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember every once in a while it would

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<v Speaker 2>come out, even though we never, you know, prayed, we

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<v Speaker 2>never went to church or anything. Remember I liked the

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<v Speaker 2>movie seven when it came out, and he was deeply

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<v Speaker 2>upset that I liked that. He's like that is it

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<v Speaker 2>really disturbs me that you liked that movie. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the other one was we would always play Twisted Metal

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<v Speaker 2>two campaign mode together and at one point I learned

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<v Speaker 2>the code. It was called sell your Soul, and you

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<v Speaker 2>would type in a certain and you would sell all

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<v Speaker 2>your weapons for health. And so I was like dying

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<v Speaker 2>during the minion fight and I was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>sell my soul and he paused, put the controller down,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said Danny, I don't ever want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>you say that ever again.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, oh no, yeah, well I remember. And

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<v Speaker 3>another song from Jesus to the musical it's called cult Terrific.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes it's called terrific. You know what we mean.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called terrific. Our heads are shafe clean, it's called terrific.

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<v Speaker 3>A barrel of fun it's called terrific. And a cachet

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<v Speaker 3>of guns.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, Jesus comes back and starts he starts a cult,

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<v Speaker 2>starts a new cult because he's unhappy with the current

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic church.

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<v Speaker 3>Not enough guns, not enough guns. Yeah, yeah, right exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>so I forget what the yeah something about him just

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<v Speaker 3>starting a new new cult, and it got kind of

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<v Speaker 3>violent and weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where the plot went.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, it came out.

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<v Speaker 4>In a lot of weird ways. Was the main antagonist

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<v Speaker 4>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of weird ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Because we also had a fake we had to make

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<v Speaker 3>a fake band for a different school projects and we

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<v Speaker 3>called ours Last Rites. It was just mostly kind of

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<v Speaker 3>weird religious songs. The one I wrote was a song

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<v Speaker 3>about burning the Bible. It's called the Bible burns Better.

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<v Speaker 3>And that one was actually really catchy. I am still

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<v Speaker 3>proud of the Bible burns better. The chorus was fire,

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<v Speaker 3>fire down to every letter, and the dark of the night,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible burns better. It's your dark desire, be a

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<v Speaker 3>trendsetter when your soul is cold. The Bible burns better tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but Mike, I have to ask for those listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the audio. Whenever Mike is singing this, he's looking

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<v Speaker 2>off to the left.

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<v Speaker 3>When he's reading a Google duck.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a document of the script?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know why. It's just a sweet you. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I'm looking to him. I actually

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<v Speaker 3>I am, despite what you might think. I am actually

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<v Speaker 3>just slightly embarrassed. And I can't look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Why that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Shame.

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<v Speaker 1>There is little bit no audible.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>I could probably do the verses for Bible Birds better

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<v Speaker 3>if I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not a Christian rock band, but like, no, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if i'd call it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to call it that either, but it's like it's,

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<v Speaker 3>We had to sing the one song called Heaven a Blake.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan, Like a bunch of yeah, seven year olds

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<v Speaker 3>Is could just said it was what Tom Petty, who

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mike, you uh, Janet Reno came up as she's

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<v Speaker 2>want to do Remember when that was like the craziest

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<v Speaker 2>political thing in the world, like on SNL, like the

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<v Speaker 3>You're promised, you promised that emo.

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<v Speaker 1>You were going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about get my political agenda across that podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>We are so pro Reno, Janet Reno. I want her

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<v Speaker 4>to just run Reno Mania on this country once again. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>Just think about the things that used to be big

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<v Speaker 3>political controversies in the nineties. We got let's do old bow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>had a blow job in the nineties, like Obama wearing

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<v Speaker 3>the tan suit like that was well, like the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>things in the nineties that everybody in America was very

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about was Bill Clinton's blow job, uh Ellen, degenerous,

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson.

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<v Speaker 3>Those were like the three things.

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<v Speaker 4>The holy trinity of the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, what was the thing? It wasn't water Gate,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't water World. What was the Whitewater? Whitewater.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very young and I basically just got my

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<v Speaker 2>politics through Mad Magazine, and Whitewater would come up all

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<v Speaker 2>the time on Letterman and stuff, and it was like

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<v Speaker 3>He said trump it up, what did you mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, I think that's a different meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Now have you ever seen the clip from like the

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<v Speaker 2>two thousands where Norm McDonald is on the view and

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<v Speaker 2>somehow one of the Clintons comes up and Norm out

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. It's like, oh, yeah, you know the story

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<v Speaker 2>about like when the Clinton's killed a guy right just

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<v Speaker 2>in the daytime like joy Bay and be like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and Norm's like, no, no, he killed a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let it go.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking the other day, like it used to

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<v Speaker 3>be like this thing and all, like the sitcoms and

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<v Speaker 3>TV shows are just in general, like the biggest source

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<v Speaker 3>of pride for parents as if their child became the

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<v Speaker 3>like the last thing I would want to like it

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<v Speaker 3>just like even if you were a good president United States,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how many deaths he would be responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>technically your call, Like no, I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the bar for good is way warped to like

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<v Speaker 2>I like Obama a lot, but he's definitely killed the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, all sorts of people. And it's like that's

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<v Speaker 3>what makes it disturbing because you look at Obamba, he's

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<v Speaker 3>like he like likes thro lean into the memes and

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<v Speaker 3>he has a bit of this like warm figure. He's

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<v Speaker 4>But that that thing what I think of is Marge

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<v Speaker 4>wanting Bart to be a Supreme Court the Supreme Court justice,

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<v Speaker 4>like and uh, and then he fails in her dream

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<v Speaker 4>and then has to become like a Supreme Court justice

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<v Speaker 4>themed a stripper.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's got that like stubble and they do

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<v Speaker 2>the great thing where it's like his spikes on his

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<v Speaker 2>hair are kind of like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, he's got the big beer belly like Homer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very funny. Yeah, like curling pistols or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Love being on this podcast with people that appreciate the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking Simpsons, and Mary absolutely does. I'm talking directly about

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Mahardy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we could probably we could just edit some wine

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<v Speaker 4>into it and then probably get him on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know what, we were sharing some stuff today.

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<v Speaker 2>We we did find someone who was, as I put it,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Mahardy if he wasn't so.

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<v Speaker 3>Aware, Yeah, that's so fun. Thing turns out.

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<v Speaker 2>The self awareness is a critical critical Do you need that?

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<v Speaker 4>You do? I need important? Got where she had it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Maharty was doing trying to do my voice

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<v Speaker 3>two episodes ago on here and I want to do

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<v Speaker 3>a Mike Maharty impression, but he has a pretty normal

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<v Speaker 3>voice unfortunately, got a.

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<v Speaker 2>Very no he's got they always have like alien and

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<v Speaker 2>trailer and uh it's a little bit of JFK issues affectations. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got that East Coast fancy boy thing. Going on, Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>it was very fair.

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<v Speaker 3>There's gotta be a Simpsons episode about wine, right, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a zillion.

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<v Speaker 2>Episcourse they do go to aust Well, the astroliy one

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<v Speaker 2>is just like the frog stuff and everything like.

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<v Speaker 3>The frog and there's the bit about you know beer, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a lacrosse episode? I bet there's a lacrosse episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean at this point, I imagine anything we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen happen between like seasons twelve and one hundred and sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that no one has seen and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know.

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<v Speaker 4>It gets really good again at one hundred and twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>You see that it got renewed for five more seasons

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<v Speaker 3>like a main cast by like I'm the waiting morbid.

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<v Speaker 4>Of them dies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then do you think they actually float the

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<v Speaker 1>AI thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, well did you.

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<v Speaker 2>See there's a clip? I don't know if there's the

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<v Speaker 2>birds or who. But Frank Azaria. They brought him in

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<v Speaker 2>and had him record a bunch of lines into like

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<v Speaker 2>an AI thing as MO, and they had had the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of criticizing. I'm just being like, no, you can

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<v Speaker 2>make it sound kind of like the boys, but like

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<v Speaker 2>the timing and all the human stuff is what you

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely can't do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh gosh, I I hate so much that like

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<v Speaker 3>becoming a everything's kind of getting worse as I get

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<v Speaker 3>older person, because I know every every generation has done

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<v Speaker 3>that for so long. Well boy, some things are getting worse.

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<v Speaker 4>Like everyone's like, okay, yeah, it's the broken clock situation.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we happen to be right because like they

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<v Speaker 4>they like, it's one generation she took all the wealth

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<v Speaker 4>And then what's the chargest rents for everything?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's try to be good old guys about this, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it is kind of for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And but I think, you know, I think when you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about real world stuff and wealth and things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's some very legitimate stuff there, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like so much the time, it's like, oh, a generation

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<v Speaker 2>thinks Elvis is going to corrupt the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's gonna gat video games are gonna rot your brain.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff like you know, every white.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude from the Midwest over fifty five seeing like Kendrick

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<v Speaker 2>Klamarr and be like, ah, this isn't music. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That it always goes down right, It's always the kids

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<v Speaker 4>are ruining the things I like, and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>So can we parse out, like what is objectively bad

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<v Speaker 2>about the kids and the times with the youths? Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean the AI suff's bad and less people

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<v Speaker 3>like I will say this. I don't think the Minecraft

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<v Speaker 3>movie or excuse me, a Minecraft movie, the a Minecraft movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's call it a mincraft movie. I don't think a

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<v Speaker 4>Minecraft movie is destroyed art as we know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw the Mario Brothers movie the nineties one,

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<v Speaker 2>I told my dad in the parking lot that that

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<v Speaker 2>was the best movie I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Like stupid fucking taste and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that my objectively sucks, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I said that about Double Dragon to my

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<v Speaker 4>parents when me and Jason, my brother, were walking out,

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<v Speaker 4>and made my whole family go see it when we

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<v Speaker 4>were on vacation to see my brother who was in

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<v Speaker 4>the army, and like one of the few hours he

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<v Speaker 4>had to spend with us. We made him watch Double

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<v Speaker 4>fucking Dragon in the theater and we're walking out be

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<v Speaker 3>When I saw Minecraft, because my nephew nieces let me

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<v Speaker 3>go with them, I was just like, you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>parents had to see the Power Ridgers movie. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>they did not care about that.

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<v Speaker 4>That movie's pretty good though.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't bad though, got hitting the nuts at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>right that do guy. He had that great light about

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<v Speaker 3>missing the Monsters reunion or so that was, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>was pretty good. Actually, they probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Liked that well.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I did that video a while back

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<v Speaker 2>and he was talking. We were talking about like worst

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<v Speaker 2>movies they've seen, and my dad is like Shark Boy

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<v Speaker 2>and Lava Girl. I remember I had to take the

432
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<v Speaker 2>girls to that like when they were kids, and like,

433
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<v Speaker 2>oh Shark But clearly this is a movie made for kids.

434
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's yeah for my dad, But like grub,

435
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<v Speaker 2>if you had that experience with their kids where it's

436
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<v Speaker 2>like they're excited about a movie and you are just

437
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<v Speaker 2>hating every second of it.

438
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<v Speaker 4>No, I think a big thing that has happened in

439
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<v Speaker 4>the last uh well, I mean, your dad's not that home,

440
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<v Speaker 4>but like the last twenty years is the generation gap

441
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<v Speaker 4>has gotten a lot smaller, Like we just aren't shedding

442
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<v Speaker 4>the things from our youth, and the stuff from our

443
00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:35.680
<v Speaker 4>youth is like pretty similar to all the stuff the

444
00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.519
<v Speaker 4>kids are into. Like, you know, my kids will go

445
00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:41.200
<v Speaker 4>from one minute watching the bullshit on YouTube, which is

446
00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.279
<v Speaker 4>the strange stuff now, like the Shark Boys and Lava

447
00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Girls are unboxing videos and little girls making stories with

448
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<v Speaker 4>their toys and putting up on YouTube and it has

449
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<v Speaker 4>fifteen billion views and stuff like that. I'm like, I

450
00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:55.759
<v Speaker 4>don't know, all this stuff is kind of interesting. I

451
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<v Speaker 4>think it'll give my kids cool perspectives and like cool

452
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<v Speaker 4>ideas about how to create stuff. And then they'll go

453
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<v Speaker 4>from that to watching you know, tonight they're like, hey,

454
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<v Speaker 4>I want to watch Kieky's Delivery Service, so like they're

455
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<v Speaker 4>watching me azaki. I'm like, okay, yeah, and they're like

456
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<v Speaker 4>I kind of just let let them go where they

457
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<v Speaker 4>want to, and they, you know, they oscillate between some

458
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<v Speaker 4>real terrible bullshit that you know, doesn't really bother me

459
00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:16.480
<v Speaker 4>because I have a high tolerance for that stuff and

460
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<v Speaker 4>then back toward something very cool. So I'm like, Okay,

461
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<v Speaker 4>they got like a nice wide consumption here that I

462
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<v Speaker 4>think is going to do them all right in their

463
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<v Speaker 4>lives lives.

464
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<v Speaker 2>I would assume that that's maybe not a common case.

465
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure a lot are just like you know, garbage

466
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<v Speaker 2>kid tastes. They're like, you know, like Dylan Backlars, Oh

467
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<v Speaker 2>well yeah, h Backlarer is interested.

468
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<v Speaker 1>In blueprints and zeld and stuff.

469
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<v Speaker 2>I look, and he's probably a market Yeah, he's probably all.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, yeah, I think they're kind of like that, Jeff.

471
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<v Speaker 3>We're like, they'll still you know, for us, like of

472
00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:46.880
<v Speaker 3>course they have easy access to audible Disney stuff and

473
00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:49.359
<v Speaker 3>they'll still watch that. I like it. But they absolutely

474
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<v Speaker 3>want to watch their YouTube junk. And hey, I'm sure

475
00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:56.559
<v Speaker 3>that that YouTube junk to me isn't too different than

476
00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.799
<v Speaker 3>what early nick toms seemed like to my parents, right,

477
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<v Speaker 3>Ren and simpy that probably.

478
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<v Speaker 4>Slime or like yeah nicktoons, or that you can't do

479
00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:07.720
<v Speaker 4>that on television all that stuff, like what are yeah,

480
00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:09.240
<v Speaker 4>what is this weird gross stuff?

481
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<v Speaker 3>Happy joy joy? Yeah right, like nonsense, Yeah, it seemed

482
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<v Speaker 3>like it. Probably they they're probably were convinced, even though

483
00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:17.920
<v Speaker 3>they may not have really cared, we watch it and

484
00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.160
<v Speaker 3>let us watch it, they're probably convinced. This probably isn't

485
00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:21.279
<v Speaker 3>good for them.

486
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<v Speaker 4>Right, I mean even like the you know, the the

487
00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:26.319
<v Speaker 4>he Mans and the cartoon the cartoons that are just commercials.

488
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<v Speaker 4>It's like, well, that is a lot of stuff that

489
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<v Speaker 4>the kids have now, And I'm like, I don't feel

490
00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.160
<v Speaker 4>like that stuff really damaged me in any real way, Like, yeah,

491
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<v Speaker 4>having commercial shoved in your brain non stop, that there

492
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.079
<v Speaker 4>probably was something. But they have way less commercials in

493
00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.039
<v Speaker 4>their life. And then sure a lot of the content

494
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.680
<v Speaker 4>they're absorbing is stuff that is made to sell them

495
00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:45.960
<v Speaker 4>stuff and that like that's how those people make money.

496
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<v Speaker 4>But we do limit their exposure to that somewhat. And

497
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<v Speaker 4>then uh, yeah, they're just not getting regular commercials at

498
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<v Speaker 4>all anymore. They don't have that at any point in

499
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<v Speaker 4>their lives.

500
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<v Speaker 2>That is one of my favorite weird Like, you know,

501
00:21:57.400 --> 00:21:59.319
<v Speaker 2>my dad has a million weird old man things. What

502
00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:03.000
<v Speaker 2>of him is He's like bitter that the kids today,

503
00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:07.079
<v Speaker 2>millennials don't know commercials because he'll ask me like, oh,

504
00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:09.079
<v Speaker 2>have you seen that State Farm commercial with them?

505
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Be like, no, Dad, I haven't seen like, oh, that's right, dude,

506
00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:13.400
<v Speaker 1>don't see commercials.

507
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.480
<v Speaker 4>He's upset that they made Jake from State Farm black.

508
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<v Speaker 3>Is that what it is? You know? Yep, No, this is.

509
00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Very better that we're not all smoking cigarettes and watching

510
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<v Speaker 2>commercials all the time.

511
00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.119
<v Speaker 1>But what is it about.

512
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<v Speaker 2>There was a shift between like our parents generation and

513
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<v Speaker 2>our generation because you see, like like with our parents generation,

514
00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, they're not obsessing over like

515
00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:38.640
<v Speaker 2>fucking Magilla Gorilla in twenty twenty five and there's not

516
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.960
<v Speaker 2>new you know, like Captain Kangaroo movies and stuff. I

517
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<v Speaker 2>think with nostalgia. With our parents generation, you bring something

518
00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.279
<v Speaker 2>up and you're like, oh, I used to watch that

519
00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:48.880
<v Speaker 2>all the time, and like us three on this fucking

520
00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 2>wowd CRTs and Genesis games and shit, well.

521
00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:54.279
<v Speaker 3>Don't forget. In the nineties, like there was like the

522
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Brady Bunch movie, the Flintstones movie, the Adams Family movie.

523
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<v Speaker 3>Like I and I think we actually are cresting Chris

524
00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:03.880
<v Speaker 3>for a while, and when we were in our thirties,

525
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:08.720
<v Speaker 3>they were really catering to our nostalgia. A lot of

526
00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:13.839
<v Speaker 3>that stuff came back, was remastered, had new sequels, even

527
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:16.319
<v Speaker 3>things like Beatles Juice recently. I do think that that's

528
00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:19.079
<v Speaker 3>going to maybe start dying down where we're going to

529
00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:21.640
<v Speaker 3>be like, they're bringing that thing back. But I didn't

530
00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:24.400
<v Speaker 3>care about that because that happened in the twenty tens

531
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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

532
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think they're trying to I think that's actually

533
00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.640
<v Speaker 4>the generation gap shrinking. I think they're finding more fruit

534
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:34.759
<v Speaker 4>from like video game adaptations because it hits us and

535
00:23:34.920 --> 00:23:37.400
<v Speaker 4>kids right, and so they can like get more more

536
00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:39.920
<v Speaker 4>juice from the squeeze there as opposed to you know

537
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<v Speaker 4>that the millennials are the biggest generation in the United

538
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:44.440
<v Speaker 4>States that's ever seen, and that we were gonna have

539
00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.599
<v Speaker 4>like once you know, that previous generation dies, a lot

540
00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:48.160
<v Speaker 4>of that welth's going to come down. So they are

541
00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:49.759
<v Speaker 4>going to keep catering to us in a lot of

542
00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.000
<v Speaker 4>really like awful ways that are going to be pretty gross.

543
00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 4>Because their corporation sin it's all they can do. But

544
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<v Speaker 4>I think for now they're like, oh, hey, this video

545
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.319
<v Speaker 4>game stuff kind of hits all these four quadrants and stuff,

546
00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:00.759
<v Speaker 4>so we'll get a lot of that for a while.

547
00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Some of it is just like people have franchises and

548
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:07.559
<v Speaker 3>they guess they think they got to do something with it.

549
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:12.519
<v Speaker 3>When I saw the Minecraft movie. Excuse me a Minecraft movie?

550
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:13.839
<v Speaker 4>A Minecraft movie.

551
00:24:13.640 --> 00:24:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Be a Minecraft movie. They had a trailer for a

552
00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:20.079
<v Speaker 3>new Smurf movie and that already had got rebooted in

553
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.440
<v Speaker 3>the twenty elevens. They made like three of them. There's

554
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.559
<v Speaker 3>no one new new reboots and Rihanna is Smurf FETs

555
00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:29.279
<v Speaker 3>and it's just a cartoon. Again. I'm like, who cares

556
00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:31.960
<v Speaker 3>about the Smurfs? But here it is.

557
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<v Speaker 4>What what Zindia was Michi? What was that? That's her

558
00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:41.160
<v Speaker 4>character in a movie? I think I just Zindia is

559
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 4>me Chi?

560
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.519
<v Speaker 3>That was? And there was a DreamWorks movie about like

561
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Yetti's or something. Right, it is something beyond the name

562
00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:49.960
<v Speaker 3>of a character.

563
00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:53.279
<v Speaker 4>It's just the name of a character. It was okay, No,

564
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:55.319
<v Speaker 4>there was a guy that makes viral videos and he

565
00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:57.519
<v Speaker 4>sang a song where he saw the sign. It's just

566
00:24:57.559 --> 00:24:59.400
<v Speaker 4>like he thought it was a funny phrase, and so

567
00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:02.200
<v Speaker 4>he sang a whole song about Zendaiah is me Chi

568
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:05.039
<v Speaker 4>and so yeah, that's that became a meme on its own.

569
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<v Speaker 1>I see, yeah, okay.

570
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:07.400
<v Speaker 3>But the Spurfs.

571
00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Who cares?

572
00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.200
<v Speaker 3>How's that? But yeah, something's come back?

573
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Like Garfield had a new movie. Why why we kiss

574
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 2>about Car's original run. Was that the nineties or was

575
00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>that already an old thing then?

576
00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 3>I think that was like an early eighties thing maybe, well,

577
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:19.119
<v Speaker 3>because that's weird.

578
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like some of the shit that was actively on

579
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>TV in my you, like in the late eighties early nineties,

580
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 2>like Looney Tunes was always fucking off well, and it

581
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>would be like Copyright nineteen sixty three.

582
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:31.839
<v Speaker 3>Because we lived in the cable explosion, so there was

583
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 3>suddenly a lot more airtime, airtime to fill, and syndication

584
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:37.119
<v Speaker 3>was the way they did. So that's why we had

585
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:39.839
<v Speaker 3>Nick at Night. That's why I grew up watching a

586
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.240
<v Speaker 3>ton of Flintstones and things like that. And I love

587
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.759
<v Speaker 3>Lucy right, So it is why.

588
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.599
<v Speaker 4>I think it's why to the younger millennials we do

589
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.839
<v Speaker 4>sometimes seem older than we are because we are very

590
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 4>well versed in happy days.

591
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:54.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah some days, Mary.

592
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Moore, it was with Nick at Knight because like,

593
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I was obsessed with Nickelodeon, But when Nick Knight came on,

594
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I think in my head, I was like, this is

595
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:06.279
<v Speaker 2>old stuff, except for I watched The Witch because I

596
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:08.519
<v Speaker 2>had a crush on the Witch. Now, she's a very

597
00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 2>pretty lady. Yes, seven year old was like, something's going

598
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>on here?

599
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she did that thing with her nose. Yeah. I

600
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:16.319
<v Speaker 3>like to the genie more than the Witch, I gotta

601
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 3>be honest.

602
00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, I also did the Gilligan's Island for probably similar reasons.

603
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tolkin's Island was great. Then they had all those

604
00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 3>TV movies where they had to recast Marianne or something

605
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:31.279
<v Speaker 3>because of drama. How many TV movies There's three, and

606
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:36.039
<v Speaker 3>the last one was Gilligan's Island meets the Harlem Globe Trotter.

607
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Is this the kind of thing wheref I search us

608
00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 3>on YouTube, I'll find like seven, like eight hour long

609
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.960
<v Speaker 3>documentaries about these things? I hope so, because gosh, I

610
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<v Speaker 3>think I think the Millionaire had died at that point,

611
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 3>so he's just mentioned off screen because they had the

612
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.480
<v Speaker 3>first TV movie is they get off the island, then

613
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 3>they get stranded again on the same island at the end,

614
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 3>and the second TV movie they get off for real

615
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.839
<v Speaker 3>and the millionaire opens up a resort on the island.

616
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<v Speaker 4>What you just think of film franchises that eventually got

617
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:03.839
<v Speaker 4>TV movie sequels?

618
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Film?

619
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, Mission impossible, Oh, I got what we're talking about.

620
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>That was a TV franchise that got.

621
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Well no, no, but I mean that started as a film

622
00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 4>franchise and then sort of dwindled to the point where

623
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 4>like eventually they were like, let's make a sequel, but

624
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 4>let's just put it on TV.

625
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.920
<v Speaker 1>That the Child series, you're saying, just like a one

626
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>off or something.

627
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

628
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 4>So, like there was like, you know, several Revenge of

629
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:26.599
<v Speaker 4>the Nerds movies that were released in theater, and the

630
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:28.079
<v Speaker 4>first one made a lot of money even though it's

631
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 4>a terrible movie. And then Adventure They're like, well, we're

632
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 4>still gonna keep making these, but we don't have a

633
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:34.359
<v Speaker 4>ton of money. Let's just put this one on TV

634
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 4>and had a seven to eleven crossover. You can go

635
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 4>to the gas station or to go to the convenience

636
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 4>store and get three D glasses and they had like

637
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.359
<v Speaker 4>three D scenes or whatever.

638
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Problem Child remember that those movies. There's Problem Child one, two,

639
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.319
<v Speaker 3>there was a Problem Child three. It was a TV

640
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 3>original movie. I remember watching it when it came out

641
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:54.480
<v Speaker 3>because we loved the first two, especially the second one.

642
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.079
<v Speaker 3>We watched it all the time in my house. Yeah.

643
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 3>The third one was just this sad directed TV thing.

644
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.759
<v Speaker 3>I wonder gosh, Kevan watched that.

645
00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Note it's got to be.

646
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 3>Somewhere it's directed direct to VHS, like, yeah, it's below that.

647
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna into all my plex server.

648
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.839
<v Speaker 3>That was a whole thing though, like the the big

649
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 3>TV reunion thing, right, and it used to be a

650
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>big deal.

651
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Did say by the Bell and Friends and stuff? Recently? Yeah,

652
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 2>it's a streaming thing.

653
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh really, there's fat matter. The Facts of Life had

654
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.039
<v Speaker 3>a big one. Well now it's like they do a

655
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 3>whole new show, right, it was like fool House. They

656
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:31.559
<v Speaker 3>just ate a whole other.

657
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Show for TV.

658
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, right, right. It used to be like the

659
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 3>TV movie reunion thing instead.

660
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Mean Girls Too aired on ABC Family in twenty eleven.

661
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.720
<v Speaker 3>What is that?

662
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 4>That's weird?

663
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.279
<v Speaker 2>The confidence to put the number on it and like

664
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Colon you know, the New Class or whatever.

665
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, I love.

666
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Would video games do that? Like Tony Hawk's pro Skater

667
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 3>fives on The Hedgehog four, it's.

668
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Like you can never go back, you can, like we

669
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.359
<v Speaker 2>can we all act like Tony Hot five didn't happen,

670
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 2>but like they couldn't, Like you could do a Super

671
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Mario Brothers four right now.

672
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has like a downloadable.

673
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>No. I mean, let's be honest, they wouldn' they would

674
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>charge a lot if they made it. Okay, let's say

675
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Nine did a Mega Man nine for Mario and they

676
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>called it Super Mario Brothers four any s style? How

677
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 2>much does Nintendo charge for that? Like for Shoot, I

678
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>think they charged sixty.

679
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd pay eighty.

680
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 4>Are you joking.

681
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Like you're not gonna play the new Maari? Yeah? Well

682
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Mega Man did such a good job with it because

683
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Mega nine is so good, and then I don't. Everyone's like, well,

684
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 3>we'll do that too, but it'll be bad.

685
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>It was on on the xbo A stream I did

686
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>where I played Sonic four episode four and ho Lee

687
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:53.799
<v Speaker 2>ship it is worse than I remembered.

688
00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:54.599
<v Speaker 1>It's terrible.

689
00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 3>That was the most angry comments I ever got was

690
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Sonic the Hedgehog four episode two, when I you that

691
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 3>and gave it a bad score. Of course, being Sonic

692
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 3>fans are there just and look, I'm kind of among

693
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 3>their numbers in some way, but they are very very interesting.

694
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Did Sammy Sonic fan come after you?

695
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah? Yeah.

696
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>That was eye opening to me because like I grew

697
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.519
<v Speaker 2>up as a I love Sonic. I mean Sonic two

698
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.160
<v Speaker 2>is one of my favorite games of my childhood. You know,

699
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>I kind of fell off after Adventure maybe, but I

700
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize how crazy the fandom was until I was

701
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 2>a Game Informer and Tim Turry was absolutely our resident

702
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Sonic expert.

703
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:31.200
<v Speaker 1>He like used to make his own ocs as a

704
00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>kid and stuff.

705
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, fucking Sonic game throughout the Wei era

706
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and the three DS era and all this, like some

707
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 2>decent ones and then some terrible ones if they weren't

708
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>getting nines.

709
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh Tim was hearing about it.

710
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, every time I gotta meet Tim and Tim

711
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:51.480
<v Speaker 3>have so much in common and I haven't meta.

712
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Like you guys.

713
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Out of any friends I've met, you were probably the

714
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>two that are the most like, have the most obvious

715
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 2>common ground.

716
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Because I love Sonic. I watched all those shows. The

717
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 3>Archie comics were incredible for a while. I adored those.

718
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I was definitely sending in like bad not trace, but

719
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 3>like eyed fan art to the comics, hoping that they

720
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 3>would post it in there and stuff like that. That

721
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.119
<v Speaker 3>had a Sonic doll that I bought from best Buy

722
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 3>on its opening day, Like oh ah, Sonic was a

723
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.240
<v Speaker 3>lot for me. And then I think Sonic Heroes was

724
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 3>my breaking point. Like Sonic if Etcher one and two,

725
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 3>I was still pretty good. Well, Sonic Pitcher two was

726
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 3>losing me a little bit because it was just so corny,

727
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 3>and they would make you play as Tails are robotic

728
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>and these ten minute long levels where you're slowly walking

729
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 3>around on a mech. Then you would play a cool

730
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Sonic level and it was ninety seconds long and it

731
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 3>was back to Tails, just walking around and locking on

732
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>to stuff and firing missiles at it. But then Sonic

733
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 3>Heroes was like barely working. You would just fall to

734
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 3>your death through solid ground constantly and I.

735
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Just couldn't do it.

736
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>Game Cube, Xbox in PlayStation two.

737
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Kayla liked that one a lot. Sonic Colors was like

738
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 2>the DS three DS one right.

739
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, we could send this when you play it on

740
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:03.480
<v Speaker 4>Blake Club.

741
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Colors is Colors was we and DS.

742
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I believe, Oh okay that era, that's right, and it

743
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 2>did have its defenders.

744
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>People like Colors.

745
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

746
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:14.279
<v Speaker 1>People.

747
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 3>Although some the Sonic fans aren't happy with that remester

748
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 3>that happened or was some issue. I don't know, but

749
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>there's a ton I will say this for the Sonic

750
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 3>fans they have the best fan game scene out there, Like,

751
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 3>that's very good fan right.

752
00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like the Star Trek to Star Wars,

753
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 4>like Sonic to Mario, where it's like Sega kind of

754
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 4>lets him go ham the way the Star Trek people do.

755
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 4>They're like, no, we're not going to stop any of

756
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 4>these fan films or fan TV shows or whatever. And

757
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 4>that's always kind of nice to see. I prefer that

758
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 4>to the way like Nintendo handles it, obviously, right, And.

759
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>We occasionally get a gym like Sonic Mania where it's

760
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like oh wow, and then they very quickly move off

761
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 2>of that.

762
00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you've got Christian Whead right there, what are

763
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 3>you doing? Yeah? And then Christian White had did that

764
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Pennies Big Breakaway game, which was like it's okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

765
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.920
<v Speaker 3>but god, I would kill for a Sonic Mania too.

766
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.440
<v Speaker 3>That game was freaking That was like one of my

767
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 3>favorite reviewing a game experiences ever because again I grew

768
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 3>up with Sonic and it was a two player game,

769
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 3>so I had my brother aj Common play that with me,

770
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 3>and it was this kind of wild We're basically playing

771
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 3>song like the Hedgehog, the real song Hedgehog four for

772
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.119
<v Speaker 3>so many other people and experiencing all this wacky stuff

773
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 3>like that boss fight where it just became doctor. Yeah,

774
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:35.279
<v Speaker 3>that was one of like the wildest things I'd ever

775
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.119
<v Speaker 3>seen in a video game. But nothing like made me

776
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 3>pop harder than that. I was like, God, we are

777
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 3>just playing Doctor Robotock's mean being machine. Now that's genius.

778
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.200
<v Speaker 4>And then they followed that up with what was it?

779
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Sonic Sonic superstargf.

780
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:53.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, and I don't think I played.

781
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 3>It after that.

782
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 4>I played it, and I beat it because I said

783
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.480
<v Speaker 4>I would. I would beat that game before I could

784
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 4>play Super Mario Brothers Wonder and uh, it's it's rough.

785
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 4>It's just like I like, I love I like Mania

786
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.679
<v Speaker 4>a lot someone who doesn't like a lot of Sonic games.

787
00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Mania is so good, so much fun. And then they're like, well,

788
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 4>we got it now, don't worry you guys, go do

789
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 4>something else. We'll take Sonic back. And then they did

790
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 4>this and it's like those boss fights where you can't

791
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.960
<v Speaker 4>hurt Robotnic for very long periods of time after you

792
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 4>heard him one Like, initially, it's just so bad and

793
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 4>boring in so many ways.

794
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a nothing of a game. I barely

795
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:27.559
<v Speaker 3>remember anything from it.

796
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's nothing. The kids don't even ever bring it up.

797
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 4>They like they were playing with me for a little

798
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 4>bit and they're like, Sonic Frontiers, that's real shit, but

799
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:34.719
<v Speaker 4>get this out of my fight.

800
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

801
00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I still kind of liked Frontiers. Didn't Aniers?

802
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Fine, I like Frontiers. I hope that, like the next

803
00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 3>one is basically just that, but refined. I thought they

804
00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 3>had something going on there. Fact, like one of the

805
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.239
<v Speaker 3>things I didn't like about where those moments where they

806
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:50.559
<v Speaker 3>try to just put those boost style levels, like those

807
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, Sonic Colors style levels, Like no, no, actually,

808
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 3>the thing you got going with the open world, that's

809
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:57.159
<v Speaker 3>pretty good, and give me more of that.

810
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Like weird puzzles and stuff in there.

811
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think, just give little more refinement to like

812
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 4>the look of the world and that.

813
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 3>Then yes, yeah it did have that like default unreal

814
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 3>engine look and there's draw distance problems and things like that.

815
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, whatever, Mike you mentioned sending in fan art and

816
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, and it maybe I was thinking, like

817
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I have I ever saw it because I was the

818
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 2>envelope art guy at Game Informer for years. Oh wow,

819
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 2>And which that was that that seemed like it was

820
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a great deal at first, because I loved

821
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the envelopear growing up.

822
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 1>But oh boy, the amount.

823
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Of shit you have to wade through, and every time

824
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you go through it, your hands are just a crime

825
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>scene by the end, with like like paper cuts and

826
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 2>just ink and pencil ship and it's just like and

827
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 2>you'll maybe find one usable thing out of every hundred

828
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 2>things you open, and it's just like, what if Mario

829
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 2>was at c O and also smoked weed, you know, like,

830
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>so that's.

831
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.039
<v Speaker 4>The usable one ship all the time? Sounds good to me.

832
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Master Kief, what if master chiefs weed? You know.

833
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 3>I was looking at the EGF Compenium the digital archives

834
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.039
<v Speaker 3>out and like literally was literally looking at the fan art,

835
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>and it is it's all just that. It's like metal

836
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 3>gear solid but Sonic the Hedgehog is Snake gets.

837
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Just that street fight. Yeah, right.

838
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.559
<v Speaker 4>Envelope art in some magazine is how I learned about Goku.

839
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:14.280
<v Speaker 4>That's the first time I ever saw Goku, and it

840
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 4>was like, yeah, that's every issue would have like one

841
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:17.440
<v Speaker 4>or two Gokus and.

842
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, what the fuck is this?

843
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I remember getting really upset at Envelope art

844
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 3>on an e GM or something. When I was like

845
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 3>it was a Nintendo piece, something you would do. I

846
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 3>got very upset because I was a bit I was

847
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>a bit more of a Sega fan back then, obviously,

848
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 3>and it was like it was Mario and a giant

849
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Yoshi and he like stomped tails to death, right he

850
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 3>saw his tail coming out of Yoshi's like foot and

851
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 3>sonics like all scares like tales you see like the

852
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 3>blood dripping out. And I was like, this is fucking bullshit.

853
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 3>They should have read this. I was I think that's

854
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>around the same time, like because I knew about that.

855
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 3>There's robotics, bead bead machine, and I saw something in

856
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 3>a magazine about Kirby's Avalanche and I did it know,

857
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.400
<v Speaker 3>So I was like they just freaking copied and ripped

858
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.920
<v Speaker 3>off Sega. Why is nobody doing something?

859
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was.

860
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I was so pissed off about PlayStation coming out, and

861
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I told you, guys, I remember the like Yoshi's Island.

862
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>No crying, screaming.

863
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.079
<v Speaker 2>That's what the guys should have bought new consoles they're doing,

864
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>because like I just thought Superintendent would be all I

865
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>need forever. So anyway, I went from being very pissed

866
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:28.039
<v Speaker 2>off at PlayStation coming out because I couldn't afford it,

867
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to playing at a blockbuster. I played Twist the Metal

868
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 2>One at a blockbustered Kiosk and loved it so fucking

869
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:35.880
<v Speaker 2>much that I went home. And this is still in

870
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>my mom's house somewhere up and looking for this notebook.

871
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's like a big drawing I did of Mario

872
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 2>and Sonic standing in the foreground looking at each other

873
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 2>and like sweating and shaking, and then in the background

874
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>it's Sweet Tooth and Warhawk coming in shooting missiles at

875
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 2>that you are not ready all over it.

876
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 4>That's when that's when you became a man and you

877
00:37:59.119 --> 00:37:59.920
<v Speaker 4>stopped playing child.

878
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got an erection, and then I there was.

879
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 3>In third grade for our spelling quizzes, like like each

880
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 3>kid had to kind of draw a picture and like

881
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 3>design the paper for the spelling quiz that day. So

882
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 3>just like had to put the six lines for the words.

883
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 3>You can draw whatever you want. So people were drawing,

884
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, like Tommy Pickles or Mickey or all this stuff.

885
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 3>And I drew the Sega Saturn logo on mine. Oh,

886
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 3>I got into a fight my friend because he had

887
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.280
<v Speaker 3>like just played a PlayStation Kioski. Like Mike, it's so

888
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.679
<v Speaker 3>much better than the Saturn. It's gonna blow it away.

889
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm hanging up. I not want to

890
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 3>hear it.

891
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I sent in any of my art,

892
00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 2>but at one point and stopping. If you've heard this,

893
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I've ever told this on like

894
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Giant bum but like I was watching SmackDown back when

895
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:51.280
<v Speaker 2>it was on not cable. It was on like not

896
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you was upnor whatever, like the CWUPN or whatever it

897
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:56.039
<v Speaker 2>was on like network.

898
00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:59.039
<v Speaker 3>SmackDown was on up It was called the c W

899
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:00.239
<v Speaker 3>UPN then became seed.

900
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.199
<v Speaker 4>Does I think there was UPN and WB network came

901
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.119
<v Speaker 4>together and became a CW.

902
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.880
<v Speaker 3>Right back was on UPN with all the Star Trek shows.

903
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I remember, yes, and Shasta McNasty of course, of course,

904
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 2>so it was on. It was over the air, so

905
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 2>you could get like news break ins and stuff like

906
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>that from local news, and living in Kansas, we frequently

907
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:20.400
<v Speaker 2>got like tornado watches and tornado warnings and it was

908
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.480
<v Speaker 2>some like you know, there's some Stone Cold angle and

909
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I just love Stone Cold so much, and like they'd

910
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 2>been building up to something at the end. I'm sure

911
00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 2>it was I don't know, stone Cold ships in McMahon's

912
00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>coffee or something, but like I was just waiting for

913
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 2>like this big payoff at the end, and then the

914
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 2>fucking news broke in and it wasn't even like hey,

915
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna die tornado warning thing. It was just like hey,

916
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Tornado watch and Johnson County wine dot County and I'm like, okay, great,

917
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.199
<v Speaker 2>it's a watch. It's not real yet. Just stone Colds

918
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:50.039
<v Speaker 2>about a shit and his coffee. Like they didn't cut away,

919
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>they just stayed there. And I got so fucking furious

920
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 2>that I recorded. I popped in a VHS tape and

921
00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.239
<v Speaker 2>it was either Restumated two thousand or no Mercy.

922
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I create. He hated the fucking weatherman for the channel.

923
00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 2>It was like a s and everything, And I gave

924
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>him an entrance and I did a match where I

925
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 2>played as Stone Cold and I just grab a chair.

926
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>It's like a no DQ match and I grab a

927
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>chair and just it's like fifteen minutes of me whopoping

928
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>this weatherman's as. I don't because I sent it to

929
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the fucking station.

930
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Man.

931
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 4>He either thought that was really funny or incredibly disturbing.

932
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I gave any context. I don't think

933
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I was, like with your Tornado watches.

934
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Next time VHS unlathled, it's kind of a threat.

935
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh that rules. Oh my god, that is such.

936
00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 3>A good way to release just get mad at people.

937
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 4>I should just send them VHS tapes. No one would

938
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:49.199
<v Speaker 4>ever watch them.

939
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you would have to imagine it's like a nick

940
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Cage eight millimeter of snuff film or something. To the

941
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 2>authorities here. Yeah, O Jesus Christ, all right.

942
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 4>Did you name it after the guy? So like at

943
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:04.519
<v Speaker 4>least if he did watch it would know it was him.

944
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I was by the head went to Brian Busby, which

945
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you probably do. I think he's still the weatherman in

946
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, but that wouldn't have been it because it

947
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:16.199
<v Speaker 2>was upn Weirdly related to that, though, is Jonathan Coachman.

948
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the coach Oh? Yeah, he was the.

949
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Weatherman for KMBC nine news growing up, the ABC affiliate

950
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 2>in Kansas City. So when he showed up in wrestling,

951
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I was very confused as to why my childhood weatherman

952
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:31.480
<v Speaker 2>was in wrestling, And many many years later I think

953
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I was at Wrestlmingia thirty Access their convention and Coach

954
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 2>was there and I went up to him and go

955
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>k NBC nine.

956
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:41.840
<v Speaker 1>He just turned around, like what the fun is? Like

957
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the news like in Kansas City was like, yeah.

958
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.559
<v Speaker 2>My Weatherman's like holy shit, no one's ever brought that

959
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 2>up to me.

960
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

961
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:50.119
<v Speaker 3>I remember how weird it was because he was just

962
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 3>doing Sports Center for a while and I like always

963
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:55.719
<v Speaker 3>had on kind of a hard time not just being

964
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 3>like that's that's the guy vits Mcmahonpete on that one.

965
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.320
<v Speaker 4>That's most people on most TV shows.

966
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that was always my move with any celebrities,

967
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 2>like always trying to like, Okay, what's the thing, Like

968
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 2>there's the stuff they obviously get asked about all all

969
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 2>the time, and then there's like the obscure stuff like

970
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you ever see that like Nard war guy. Yeah, like

971
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.719
<v Speaker 2>super super deep cut stuff. And that's why, like I

972
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.599
<v Speaker 2>tried that even like when I would meet wrestlers in

973
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>more recent years where it's like first time I met Flair,

974
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:24.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was shockingly at the JW. Marriott Bar

975
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:26.559
<v Speaker 2>with three Gen and Tonics in front of him, and

976
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I sat down next to him and I just kind

977
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:29.039
<v Speaker 2>of like I.

978
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Didn't want to immediately mark out. I just ordered a drink.

979
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there acting like I'm not there because it's

980
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Rick Flair next to me. And then I turned to him.

981
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, hey, Rick, I was going a

982
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:38.760
<v Speaker 2>little bit of small tuck stuff. He's looking at his

983
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>phone with gigantic that I didn't know iPhones could have

984
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that big a font. I was like, hey, remember remember

985
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I actually worked at Game in Former at

986
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the time. This is like a while ago, and I

987
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, I work, I work in the video game world,

988
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>and I thought it was really cool when you remember

989
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:55.199
<v Speaker 2>when he did that Command of Conquer commercial, he did

990
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 2>that Red Alert three thing and that series of commercials

991
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 2>with you fighting a bear a guy, and he was

992
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>like you didn't even like look up from his phone

993
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 2>and he's like what And I was like, yeah, I

994
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:06.400
<v Speaker 2>remember the Flair versus Barrett commercials, like you know, you

995
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.719
<v Speaker 2>fighting the bearsicca, I don't know what you're talking about,

996
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 2>just absolutely And he's just no selling everything I said.

997
00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Not like even interested that he like film commercials with

998
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 3>a bear and doesn't remember.

999
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>He believed me. I think he was just like whatever kid.

1000
00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:17.679
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1001
00:43:17.719 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>And then it wasn't until I just I just pivoted

1002
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:21.320
<v Speaker 2>to like the Eye. I was like, oh, man, I've

1003
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 2>been watching some of those old eighties promos lately. And

1004
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 2>he like put his phone and I was like, oh,

1005
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>we were running in the eighties, brother, we were.

1006
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Going the eighties. Yeah you got We're.

1007
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Talking about like fucking Dusty Roads and Greg Valentine or whatever.

1008
00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:32.440
<v Speaker 1>He perks up.

1009
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 4>It's like, that's when people want to talk about the GameCube.

1010
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 4>We were running in the GameCube.

1011
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Ear guys, we were you brought up like winning the

1012
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 3>finance scure thing to talk about someone. Drew Scanlon was

1013
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 3>on uh last week on the FI Skip as you

1014
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 3>are Out, and I do I feel bad. I feel

1015
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 3>like a bit of a goof because the one time

1016
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I ever interacted with him, I think it was on

1017
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 3>a stream and I was on a call and it

1018
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:56.599
<v Speaker 3>was this you and him was the first time I

1019
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 3>ever was on anything with them, and I think somehow

1020
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 3>within a minute I brought up the Blinking Guy. I

1021
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, why it's wrong with what? Why am I?

1022
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Chris Barley showing.

1023
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Also the thing you think about all the time with this,

1024
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>like don't be the Chris Barley Show.

1025
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.840
<v Speaker 3>I know, and it's like, I'm usually so good. I

1026
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 3>was like, Drew probably thinks of some kind of a

1027
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:17.960
<v Speaker 3>due fit. The nice human being in the world, I know,

1028
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 3>incredibly nice.

1029
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 2>He is sort of like, goddamn, yeah, he was awesome

1030
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>here he's flying planes now, yes, I mean more so

1031
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>than usual.

1032
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>More so than usual.

1033
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean he's talking about it on the show. I'm

1034
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:32.880
<v Speaker 3>not all the way through last episode yet, but he

1035
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 3>was talking about flying planes and.

1036
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 4>So he stayed like he got like back on track

1037
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.559
<v Speaker 4>with this, his lessons and all that stuff.

1038
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 3>That's great.

1039
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Told me he was talking about like renting planes and stuff,

1040
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 2>so I assume he mused to be doing it, Like, yeah,

1041
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 2>he's he's the type of guy like I'm definitely older

1042
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>than Drew, but like working with him, I would just

1043
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:51.000
<v Speaker 2>be like, ah, that's like an adult.

1044
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, that's when I know exactly what you mean.

1045
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.039
<v Speaker 4>That's alone who could figure out how to fly a plane?

1046
00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it. Well, I just realized that in this

1047
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 3>zoom call I misspelled my name, so.

1048
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>That I am.

1049
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 4>Makonchi.

1050
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mick, what Mike? So that's where I am.

1051
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, w's right next to the e Mike, it happens.

1052
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 3>It's difficult sometimes when you're in a hurri you know,

1053
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 3>you had.

1054
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>To put an age on when you think.

1055
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say when you we've all continued

1056
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.400
<v Speaker 2>to learn and grow as people. But like, ultimately where

1057
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>the line kind of evens out, what do you think

1058
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the age is for you guys?

1059
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, like, what age do I get to where

1060
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:34.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm still just that age?

1061
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I'm thinking fifteen.

1062
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm like I remember Bruce Willis would say twenty

1063
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 4>seven and that's way too old.

1064
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I was yeah, no, no.

1065
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 4>I've never really felt older than like maybe twenty two.

1066
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think like fifteen ish with when you sprinkle

1067
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 2>in the like, oh I can drink now and I'm married.

1068
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right, that's an average. Right. There's some things

1069
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:58.880
<v Speaker 4>where I feel fifteen. Sure, some things where I feel

1070
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.079
<v Speaker 4>twenty six, Like I've rented a car once and that

1071
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:04.519
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, and like that was like okay enough to

1072
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 4>be like okay, yeah, you know, but planning a family

1073
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.480
<v Speaker 4>vacation to Disney that was like a whole thing and

1074
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:11.639
<v Speaker 4>stuff handled a lot of that. But I'm like I contributed,

1075
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:14.119
<v Speaker 4>did what I could and had some help there, like

1076
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, I had connections and things like that that

1077
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 4>made me feel a little bit older. But it's an

1078
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.000
<v Speaker 4>average it out to about twenty two.

1079
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.000
<v Speaker 3>It's very it's hard to say, like twenty three was

1080
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 3>big because that's when I like started actually going out

1081
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 3>and trying to be more social. So that was an

1082
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 3>important thing. So maybe after like twenty five, I don't know.

1083
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.239
<v Speaker 3>There's always weird little things and there's so yeah, there's

1084
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.119
<v Speaker 3>so many ways that I'm not that different from eight

1085
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.880
<v Speaker 3>year old of my key here, right.

1086
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's say this.

1087
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.880
<v Speaker 2>If you average out all the things you reference or

1088
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:47.360
<v Speaker 2>think about, like, oh god, a day to day basis,

1089
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm like ninety eight ninety nine, So

1090
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like.

1091
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 4>It is, and it's it's totally like a bell curve too, right,

1092
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 4>because like as you get closer to today, there's fewer

1093
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.639
<v Speaker 4>things from each year I'm probably thinking about. Yeah, I

1094
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 4>will say, if you say, Mike, think of a year,

1095
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:04.039
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety eight is probably going.

1096
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 1>To be the year I have. Yeah, that was a

1097
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>big one.

1098
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 3>That was the year for whatever reason, and like, yeah,

1099
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight, like just show me those numbers, and I

1100
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 3>feel good.

1101
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I can think of a specific time, but

1102
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.719
<v Speaker 4>like I mentioned this before, the weeks before Phantom Menace

1103
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 4>came out in ninety nine.

1104
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Sure, nineties, we're all a couple of years apart and stuff,

1105
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 2>But like I do feel like that late nineties was

1106
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 2>hitting for all of us.

1107
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Yep, absolutely good time.

1108
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:31.360
<v Speaker 3>In sixty four coming out, that was another time. Yeah, yeah,

1109
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 3>sixty four, Oh got dreamcast. I was so freaking excited

1110
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 3>for all of that.

1111
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1112
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 2>But then do we all agree that that next generation

1113
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 2>was objectively better?

1114
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? It was probably the besttionaries, but you know it

1115
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 3>had that whole nine to eleven thing souring stuff.

1116
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, here it comes Mike you with his political

1117
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>agenda eleven.

1118
00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Us from our video games.

1119
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 3>Bad. Yeah.

1120
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I did change the tone of like even the fun

1121
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 1>stuff afterwards.

1122
00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:59.039
<v Speaker 3>The tone of everything changed a bit.

1123
00:47:59.239 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Of course.

1124
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.440
<v Speaker 4>Earlier Mike you mentioned like wanting to hang up on

1125
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 4>your friend because he was like, you know, talking bad

1126
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:09.800
<v Speaker 4>about the Saturn. I'm like, it wasn't directly because they

1127
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 4>were insulting the n sixty four, But I definitely eventually

1128
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 4>fought the kids who like, at first, I'm like, hey,

1129
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 4>I got the INN sixty four, come over, my house,

1130
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Like we ride the bus home together and we played

1131
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 4>the N sixty four and they were like, this is amazing.

1132
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 4>And then a few weeks later, other stuff had happened,

1133
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 4>and I was I was probably like provoking them in

1134
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 4>some ways, being kind of a little shit. But eventually

1135
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 4>they're like, oh, you know, PlayStation so much better than

1136
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.920
<v Speaker 4>the N sixty four. And then a few weeks after that,

1137
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 4>we all just fought on the bus. It was these

1138
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 4>two kids and me, and yeah, I'm like, okay, well

1139
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 4>I did not lose. Yeah, like there was one kid

1140
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 4>I really beat up and the other one stopped me.

1141
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Basically is how it went.

1142
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.920
<v Speaker 2>We didn't really have like a Saturn contingency. We definitely

1143
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 2>had PlayStation in sixty four back then, like there'ld be

1144
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.840
<v Speaker 2>kids who owned them, but like nobody was like Saturned

1145
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the winner.

1146
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:58.159
<v Speaker 3>You know. I was definitely very lonely on my Saturn,

1147
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it died pretty early. But that was

1148
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:05.639
<v Speaker 3>I never really like when the Dreaming Cast died, I

1149
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.679
<v Speaker 3>was like, okay, game cubes were mitching my wagon. When

1150
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.559
<v Speaker 3>the Saturn died, I would I played PlayStation. I played

1151
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.280
<v Speaker 3>sixty four, but it really that was when I got

1152
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.079
<v Speaker 3>into PC gaming, it was I was doing like Half

1153
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Life one just happened. I was almost playing gryffin Dango

1154
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:19.239
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of those old loog stars at Veture

1155
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.400
<v Speaker 3>games like those. That first wave of weird MMOs like

1156
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:26.199
<v Speaker 3>ever Request and Assurant's Call wasn't too long after that,

1157
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.039
<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I was deep into that world

1158
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>back when it was still kind of weird in its

1159
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 3>own thing.

1160
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 1>It was still pretty interesting, arg you, maybe more interesting

1161
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>when it was weird. But yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, definitely. Uh,

1162
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 1>speaking of that, do you want to talk about video games?

1163
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Sure?

1164
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 1>All right, video games?

1165
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Boy, it's just it's a delight, you know, it's uh

1166
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 2>a mic and grub of known you for a while now,

1167
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's rare that we get to just sit down

1168
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and talk about video games.

1169
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 4>I know, it's never for once.

1170
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I didn't talk about everything. Were playing, yeah yesterday.

1171
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:02.559
<v Speaker 2>Which if you want to hear us three talk about

1172
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:05.840
<v Speaker 2>video games on a many times a week basis, check

1173
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.800
<v Speaker 2>us out over at giant bomb dot com. Subscribe to

1174
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:11.159
<v Speaker 2>the giant BombCast we're over there. Definitely subscribe Blake Club.

1175
00:50:11.239 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 2>We'll touch on that in a moment here. But yeah,

1176
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>since people have probably heard us talk about people. Okay,

1177
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I've got a lot of people's around me

1178
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:21.320
<v Speaker 2>right now.

1179
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a single PEOPO.

1180
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 1>Look at the people.

1181
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of because I heard Mary is playing

1182
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Blueprints. I have not heard her thoughts

1183
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>on it yet, and obviously she's not here this week,

1184
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:36.480
<v Speaker 2>so I want to save a larger me and Mary Blueprinces.

1185
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I want to hear that too, so definitely save

1186
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:39.719
<v Speaker 4>some stuff for that.

1187
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Is Mahardy going to check it out?

1188
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I think he said he's going to check it out. Yes,

1189
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he started yet. I know Mary has

1190
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>been playing.

1191
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm feel it curious because they were like, you know,

1192
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:49.639
<v Speaker 3>I think the people really love this game, love it,

1193
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.199
<v Speaker 3>But then there are some who some who I suspect

1194
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:54.039
<v Speaker 3>would have I'm not surprised they don't like it.

1195
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:55.920
<v Speaker 4>But some them like, oh you don't like this? Okay,

1196
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.119
<v Speaker 4>can I just tease a little bit for your guys show.

1197
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm just I've seen her on been playing a lot.

1198
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 4>She's at ninety one point eight hours in Blue prius O.

1199
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I think she likes it all right, that's well. I

1200
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 2>think she also leaves stuff on for a long time.

1201
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:09.559
<v Speaker 4>So she definit left it on one night.

1202
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can say.

1203
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:13.039
<v Speaker 1>My thoughts are she probably likes it.

1204
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I've seen some people in Blue Sky

1205
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:16.440
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh yeah you got married and do it

1206
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 2>a river. So well, I'll need to talk to her

1207
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 2>next week about it. If you want to hear us

1208
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.599
<v Speaker 2>three and Jan talk about it, listen to the last

1209
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 2>two or three bomb casts. Probably yeah, And we put

1210
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.119
<v Speaker 2>up videos plenty of us talking about Blueprints. It's an

1211
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 2>incredible game. We're all in camp pro Blueprints, very plow

1212
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Blue Prince.

1213
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Just like only slightly annoyed that people think that's like,

1214
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 4>this is one of those things where like, oh, you

1215
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.760
<v Speaker 4>just played a game early and you felt like, no,

1216
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 4>that's I'm forty two. That just doesn't happen anymore. I

1217
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 4>just God, I love this game.

1218
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 3>It's like I like, I still am appreciative of that

1219
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:49.679
<v Speaker 3>sometimes for sure, and like I can't be aware of it.

1220
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 3>But uh yeah, the point in life where that would

1221
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 3>have colored my opinion on a game is very long past.

1222
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 3>If ever, like come.

1223
00:51:57.280 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 1>On, yeah, and I can't.

1224
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't get mad at the folks that are not

1225
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 2>it's not clicking with because I got no there's gonna

1226
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 2>make balders gates and stuff like that that are universe beloved,

1227
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 2>and I just like, look, not everyone's gonna like everything.

1228
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:09.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not gonna take a personally if someone

1229
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:11.559
<v Speaker 2>doesn't like a game I like, but exactly we all

1230
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:13.920
<v Speaker 2>like it quite a bit here, I U, I guess,

1231
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.800
<v Speaker 2>just to quickly touch on it, I think I'm done,

1232
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:21.000
<v Speaker 2>uh in that I definitely saw credits a long time ago.

1233
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.119
<v Speaker 2>I've played a good amount past that. I can see

1234
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 2>where additional things are and a lot of things that

1235
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 2>are very deep that I barely scratch the surface of.

1236
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.639
<v Speaker 2>But like, I'm at the point where I'm kind of

1237
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 2>fine looking stuff up or talking openly with you guys

1238
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.599
<v Speaker 2>and like discord and stuff like that. Are you guys

1239
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:35.719
<v Speaker 2>still actively playing?

1240
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.239
<v Speaker 4>I am, But I I am feel myself kind of

1241
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 4>coming to an end as well. I uh, I think

1242
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 4>I have six of the eight bread letters now, kind

1243
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.360
<v Speaker 4>of like finding Safe, I didn't even know we're there,

1244
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:52.239
<v Speaker 4>which is surprising. I am still also discovering new things

1245
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 4>to like begin like oh, I could spend time investigating

1246
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 4>this as well that that early metapuzzle with the you

1247
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.239
<v Speaker 4>know the letters or whatever, like oh, Okay, that did

1248
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:02.519
<v Speaker 4>have a double meaning, and I didn't realize. I'm like,

1249
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 4>I thought I solved it and was I had moved on,

1250
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 4>and then I went another room. It's like, oh, this

1251
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 4>relates to that too. Okay, I'm sure you send a

1252
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:09.679
<v Speaker 4>picture of that in our discord. I was like, oh, yes,

1253
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:11.719
<v Speaker 4>realize that. Yes, so yeah it's that, and then yeah

1254
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 4>the other one exactly. So I am still really enjoying

1255
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.559
<v Speaker 4>all of that. I have a very lightly begun like

1256
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:21.760
<v Speaker 4>looking for hints, not exactly just tell me straight out

1257
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 4>what's going on, but I'm like, you know, Chris person,

1258
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 4>tell me a little bit, pointing me in the right direction,

1259
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 4>that sort of thing. But it's definitely when I sit down,

1260
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 4>like to think about playing a game, it's like, man,

1261
00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 4>this is all I want to play still. I want

1262
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 4>to do another run. Even if I don't have a

1263
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:38.920
<v Speaker 4>goal like earlier, for like the last you know, fifty

1264
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 4>hours it's been, I have set goals I want to do.

1265
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:43.719
<v Speaker 4>Now it's like, let's just see what happens and then

1266
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 4>I definitely have some things I want to touch on,

1267
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:48.119
<v Speaker 4>but I'm just happy to kind of like lay rooms down,

1268
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.199
<v Speaker 4>see what happens, and then oh, yeah, there is that

1269
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 4>one thing I can do now that I have this tool,

1270
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 4>I'll see if I can manufacture the RNG to get

1271
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.119
<v Speaker 4>me there. And if it doesn't, oh well something else

1272
00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:57.800
<v Speaker 4>will probably happen.

1273
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Sure, I feel myself also slowing down. I did have

1274
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 3>like the first puzzle that I just straight up looked

1275
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 3>up and when I looked at it was like I

1276
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 3>wasn't gonna figure that out with it was the gallery, right, that's.

1277
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>A glad I did that.

1278
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I got that's one where I got the

1279
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:18.119
<v Speaker 4>tiniest hint from Chris where he's like a thesaurus is

1280
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 4>what he said. And uh so when I got the

1281
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 4>first one, everything else clicked into place.

1282
00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 3>But it's like there is so stuff I would like

1283
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 3>to do and want to do, but it is I

1284
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.199
<v Speaker 3>do sometimes eventually feel almost guilty, like I gotta play

1285
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 3>some other games and I can always come back to this,

1286
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 3>like I want to beat a Vout especially you know,

1287
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:36.679
<v Speaker 3>there's rumors that that I believe in remake could come

1288
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:39.039
<v Speaker 3>out next week, and I know if I start playing

1289
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:41.320
<v Speaker 3>that might be hard to go back to a Vout

1290
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 3>something that's pretty similar. And there's some other games coming

1291
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:47.519
<v Speaker 3>out soon, like you know clear obscure, I gotta I

1292
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:50.000
<v Speaker 3>want to make sure I'm playing that. So, yeah, I

1293
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.199
<v Speaker 3>probably am slowing down here a bit. And I don't

1294
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.360
<v Speaker 3>know if that means I just stop or if it

1295
00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 3>means I go really deep on just looking stuff up

1296
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.280
<v Speaker 3>and quote unquote trying to max out my safe I'll

1297
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.840
<v Speaker 3>get those letters and whatnot. Probably the former.

1298
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I could do the thing now where

1299
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:06.639
<v Speaker 2>its just I just look up like the craziest puzzles

1300
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:08.559
<v Speaker 2>and just watch it. Like I think I'm probably done

1301
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>playing it. But that's certainly not an indictment. That's like,

1302
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 2>oh gosh, long pass credits on that game. I got hours,

1303
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.679
<v Speaker 2>like fifty sixty hours or something like that.

1304
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:19.760
<v Speaker 4>So and I think I've like at this point, have

1305
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.079
<v Speaker 4>like seen more than either of you, and there's still

1306
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:22.760
<v Speaker 4>so much more for.

1307
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Me to see.

1308
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:25.599
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, if you want to throw yourself in there,

1309
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.039
<v Speaker 4>there's gonna be so so so much, but you can't

1310
00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:30.480
<v Speaker 4>have a satisfying experience without having to worry about doing

1311
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 4>all that. At the same time, I think it's I

1312
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:35.360
<v Speaker 4>think it's good for a puzzle game like this, Yes, totally, Yes.

1313
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:39.199
<v Speaker 2>One of the best, uh, Mike, you are playing Tales

1314
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:40.679
<v Speaker 2>of Grace's f What the fuck is that?

1315
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:42.119
<v Speaker 3>You know?

1316
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.599
<v Speaker 4>The Tales of Games, right, it's probably kind of similar

1317
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 4>to your favorite, The Ease.

1318
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I'm a big eashead, but yeah, but uh yeah,

1319
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.519
<v Speaker 2>so tail I've heard. Can I guess tales? How many

1320
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.519
<v Speaker 2>Tales games are there? How many like different words are

1321
00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 2>there at the end of tales that are part of

1322
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:57.400
<v Speaker 2>the same series.

1323
00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like fifteen or something like that.

1324
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's like a bunch of mobile ones that know,

1325
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:06.400
<v Speaker 3>nobody really played. Let's say there's like twelve important ones,

1326
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:10.239
<v Speaker 3>maybe mainline ones. There's one you have to know. I

1327
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:11.599
<v Speaker 3>bet there's one that you know the name of.

1328
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Who makes them?

1329
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Damn co.

1330
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Tales of Simonia, that's right. Is that the one you

1331
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:17.880
<v Speaker 1>thought I would know?

1332
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that was the big game cube one.

1333
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Tales of Arise.

1334
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Tales of a Arise. Yeah, that was the newest one.

1335
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I remember.

1336
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I already talked about it on here and I actually

1337
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 2>tried that out briefly. Tales of Simphonious, Tales of a Rise.

1338
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:32.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think of any other one.

1339
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's about all I got.

1340
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:39.719
<v Speaker 3>There's Tales of Destiny, Tales of the Sparea of Bursaria,

1341
00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 3>Tales of Zilia, Tales of Zilia two, Tales of Fantasia

1342
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.280
<v Speaker 3>was the first one, Tales.

1343
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Hid Zone.

1344
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:55.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm a big JRPG guy. The gimmick with these ones

1345
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 3>is that they lean a bit more in the action

1346
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:01.639
<v Speaker 3>RPG thing, but they still have most of the trappings

1347
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:05.559
<v Speaker 3>of traditional JEPYG and that you have like a battle field,

1348
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 3>like the way you kind of equip items, and the

1349
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.760
<v Speaker 3>party set up and just the structure of everything. Great

1350
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:14.360
<v Speaker 3>classic JERRPG. Ease is almost more of a straight up

1351
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:16.920
<v Speaker 3>action RPG, I think, because again it's not this is

1352
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:18.840
<v Speaker 3>a oh you touch an enemy in the field and

1353
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:21.360
<v Speaker 3>then you go into like the separate screen, the separate

1354
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 3>thing going on there. So that's why this feels. Yeah,

1355
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:27.320
<v Speaker 3>it's a bit more traditional in essets. And I played

1356
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 3>some of these, and I've really liked Sales Simphony I

1357
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 3>played back on the GameCube. Really liked that Tells of

1358
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:36.159
<v Speaker 3>Vesperia was the Xbox threet sixty one, and they remastered

1359
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 3>that one not too long ago from modern platforms, and

1360
00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:42.239
<v Speaker 3>I love that one. That one is great. And I

1361
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 3>played like half of a Rise, the new oor one

1362
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.559
<v Speaker 3>Kid that came out. This one Tales of Grace's was

1363
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.519
<v Speaker 3>the Wei one.

1364
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's a remake of a wee game.

1365
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.760
<v Speaker 3>So well, first they brought over the PlayStation is three

1366
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:58.159
<v Speaker 3>and that's when it became Tales of Grace's F. And no,

1367
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 3>I do not know what the F stands for. But

1368
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 3>then this is now Tales of Grace's F remastered. Okay,

1369
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.239
<v Speaker 3>so it's a remaster of a p S three version

1370
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:09.960
<v Speaker 3>of a Wii game.

1371
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:12.440
<v Speaker 2>What is the through line with the TAILS series other

1372
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>than the tales word?

1373
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:17.559
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of yeah, it's that gameplay set up.

1374
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Really, it's like characters like a no, it's.

1375
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 3>A final fancy thing. So I think some of them

1376
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:28.960
<v Speaker 3>are tangentially related and like separated by eons, right, But

1377
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:31.719
<v Speaker 3>generally it's like a fun fancy situation where most of

1378
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:34.559
<v Speaker 3>them are completely different, separate things, but they have like

1379
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 3>always the same art style. Generally, it's some other weird quirks.

1380
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.920
<v Speaker 3>There's this skit system where a certain point you can

1381
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 3>push select and you'll just see the characters kind of

1382
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 3>talking to each other about what's going on. It's completely optional,

1383
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 3>but they're usually kind of funny or cute. They just

1384
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:52.360
<v Speaker 3>give you more flavor or something like that, but I've

1385
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:54.440
<v Speaker 3>liked some I like to Vespari a ton of like

1386
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.840
<v Speaker 3>some funny a lot. This one is okay, Okay, yeah

1387
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:02.639
<v Speaker 3>it is. If you are a big Tales of Like

1388
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:04.800
<v Speaker 3>fan and you just want to play the new one

1389
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:06.599
<v Speaker 3>that got remastered you haven't seen before, I think it's

1390
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 3>worth it. If you're curious about the series, please play

1391
00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Tells of Vesperia instead of this, or play Tales of

1392
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:16.039
<v Speaker 3>Our Eyes, the newest one. There's nothing super wrong with it.

1393
00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just all kind of normal, right.

1394
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Is this the one you were losing steam with a

1395
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 4>little bit a few weeks back again, Yeah, I almost.

1396
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Just dropped it, and I was like, I think I'm

1397
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.199
<v Speaker 3>so close to the end that I will go ahead

1398
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:32.400
<v Speaker 3>and finish shit. And I am glad that I did.

1399
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.800
<v Speaker 3>But it was like it was a little bit of

1400
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 3>a push, like, all right, let me just get through this.

1401
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Like I kind of knew how the combat worked. It

1402
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 3>wasn't really getting any more complicated. It has like a

1403
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.159
<v Speaker 3>crafting system of sorts that's not very complicated. I was

1404
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:49.360
<v Speaker 3>a little surprised because all the tails heads are like

1405
00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:51.440
<v Speaker 3>this one has one of the best battle systems in

1406
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:54.239
<v Speaker 3>the series, and I wasn't really getting that sense at all.

1407
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.800
<v Speaker 3>It seemed there was roughly some complications to it and

1408
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.000
<v Speaker 3>the kind of a taxi can do, and some dodging stuff,

1409
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:03.400
<v Speaker 3>but also it has that problem. I think a lot

1410
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:06.559
<v Speaker 3>of these games sometimes do have or because it's an

1411
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 3>action like real time combat system and you have a

1412
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 3>party of four, but you can only control one person

1413
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.519
<v Speaker 3>like and often you're not playing as the healer. It's like, well,

1414
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:19.239
<v Speaker 3>the hero's trying to cast attack and it's getting attacked

1415
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:21.559
<v Speaker 3>and there's like five enemies on the field. You're trying

1416
01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:22.760
<v Speaker 3>to deal with them. So you're spending a lot of

1417
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:24.679
<v Speaker 3>time just trying to get enemies off the Healer, but

1418
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you can't, and it's a bad feeling. And other grpgs,

1419
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:29.760
<v Speaker 3>when a party remember dies, you have to revide them,

1420
01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:31.079
<v Speaker 3>but you know you're controlling them.

1421
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:31.760
<v Speaker 1>It's your fault.

1422
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.800
<v Speaker 3>It's extra annoying in this when you're playing the kind

1423
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:37.559
<v Speaker 3>of item menu game a lot at that time, like, oh,

1424
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 3>someone die, let's get them up with the potion, Let's

1425
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 3>get them up with the whatever. This game called Phoenix

1426
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 3>down Life bottles things like that. But again it was

1427
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.880
<v Speaker 3>all fine. It's weird. You could still tell some of

1428
01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:50.000
<v Speaker 3>the ways it's a weak game, Like there's zero controlling

1429
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 3>a camera in this game, interesting, right, because like oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1430
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.840
<v Speaker 3>there wasn't a right analog stick when they first made

1431
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 3>this game. So also means no overworld, which is something

1432
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 3>that Simphonia and Vesperia have and I like that. And

1433
01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:06.880
<v Speaker 3>this is more just a bunch of kind of long

1434
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 3>paths connecting all of the area, so the world feels

1435
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:11.239
<v Speaker 3>surprisingly small.

1436
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:13.920
<v Speaker 4>The whole thing felt kind of small in some ways,

1437
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.280
<v Speaker 4>in a nice intimate way for a game that took

1438
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.519
<v Speaker 4>me like thirty five hours to beats, which I guess

1439
01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:21.559
<v Speaker 4>on the short end for a JRPG these days, but

1440
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:24.599
<v Speaker 4>still felt like a pretty long game. There's actually even

1441
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:27.320
<v Speaker 4>an epilogue I thing that I think they added in

1442
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.440
<v Speaker 4>the PS three version, and I was like, I'm not playing,

1443
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:34.519
<v Speaker 4>that's fine, I'll I'll go, I'll go read a description

1444
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:35.519
<v Speaker 4>of what happens there.

1445
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I've had enough.

1446
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It's building a house at the end of Red Dead two. No,

1447
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I wish it was that good.

1448
01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I think it's like even for Sona three, which I love,

1449
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.920
<v Speaker 3>has that episode I guess thing right that they added

1450
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to the remake, and it was originally part of that

1451
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.840
<v Speaker 3>fest version of the game. As much as I love

1452
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.320
<v Speaker 3>Persona three, by the time I'm done playing that game

1453
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 3>for eighty hours, I'm like, oh, I'm good. I don't

1454
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:01.280
<v Speaker 3>need to see the playable epilogue.

1455
01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:01.840
<v Speaker 1>No, thank you.

1456
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Uh, Mike, you mentioned the you know, the we not

1457
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:07.719
<v Speaker 4>having the right analog stick, you know, not to bring

1458
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.119
<v Speaker 4>news into this show, Dan, But there was some headlines

1459
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.800
<v Speaker 4>that went around this week because shoe Hey Yoshida, who

1460
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 4>formerly a PlayStation said Nintendo is losing their identity because

1461
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:19.480
<v Speaker 4>the switch to is not weird, and I like, I

1462
01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:21.559
<v Speaker 4>just kind of fundamentally disagree with that because it's like

1463
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.159
<v Speaker 4>Nintendo has done just follow up consoles in the past

1464
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:26.800
<v Speaker 4>and that has not stopped them from being very Nintendo.

1465
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:28.440
<v Speaker 4>But how do you guys feel about that? Is there

1466
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.639
<v Speaker 4>any part of the switch too that feels like it's

1467
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:32.239
<v Speaker 4>disappointing because it's not weirder?

1468
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:36.400
<v Speaker 2>No, because my thought is, like the gimmick stuff, Like

1469
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.840
<v Speaker 2>even the ones that were successful the Wii, the games

1470
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I like from the Wii are not because of the gimmick,

1471
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you know. I like there's a handful I like boom

1472
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Block Galaxy. Yeah, boom Blocks is fine. Stuff like that,

1473
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.239
<v Speaker 2>but like, you know, it's not about the gimmick. And

1474
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:51.559
<v Speaker 2>then they tried to do the gimmick follow up to

1475
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the Wii. Instead of doing the same thing, they did

1476
01:02:54.079 --> 01:02:56.639
<v Speaker 2>a different thing and it sucked. And there were great

1477
01:02:56.679 --> 01:02:58.880
<v Speaker 2>games on the WIU, but there weren't games that you

1478
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.320
<v Speaker 2>needed the gimmick bore you moved to the switch out

1479
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:03.639
<v Speaker 2>the gimmick, and then this is not to you. Well,

1480
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of course, yeah, and the switch I mean, you can

1481
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.599
<v Speaker 2>call it a gimmick, but I really don't think it is.

1482
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I think that is just like an evolution of a console, you.

1483
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:13.800
<v Speaker 4>Know, and it's meeting a need. Yeah, it's not.

1484
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:16.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not oh, waggle controls, not so I can swing

1485
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the tennis racket or I got a game pad.

1486
01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It's oh I can take my game on the bus.

1487
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:20.760
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1488
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:21.880
<v Speaker 1>That's totally So.

1489
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:25.400
<v Speaker 3>It's people like, first off, conflating the innovations with gimmick

1490
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:28.159
<v Speaker 3>because when I was kind of complaining about this, piss

1491
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 3>about this a bit, people are like, well, like, you know,

1492
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 3>some of the gimmis have been like D pads and

1493
01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:35.679
<v Speaker 3>things that they invent them Like okay, yeah, I'm not

1494
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:38.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about that. You know, there is weird stuff with

1495
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 3>the switch to like the mouse, but what is always

1496
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:45.159
<v Speaker 3>so much more important is just software innovation and creativity.

1497
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:49.199
<v Speaker 3>Like the big thing with the switch one wasn't HD

1498
01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Rumble or even the wild It.

1499
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Was a plane.

1500
01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, well it.

1501
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Was like it's far more influential than any of the gimmicks.

1502
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, And look at Donkey kunkin Nan. So look

1503
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:05.719
<v Speaker 3>a what they're letting us do in that game, Like

1504
01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:08.400
<v Speaker 3>that's what's important. So there's a lot of things to

1505
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:10.400
<v Speaker 3>criticize Nintendo about right now. I do kind of hate

1506
01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:13.920
<v Speaker 3>the Nintendo's not weird anymore thing. I don't, but I

1507
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:15.239
<v Speaker 3>don't care about that at all.

1508
01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:19.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, it wasn't weird the fucking Super Nintendo. Yeah,

1509
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 2>like exactly, that was that.

1510
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:22.960
<v Speaker 1>A problem for the Super the nes Like, no.

1511
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't weird weird either. This is kind of a relatively

1512
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:30.639
<v Speaker 3>recent thing. It's a hold over from the Wi era.

1513
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:33.199
<v Speaker 3>I think it was, you know, help them with weirdness.

1514
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:35.440
<v Speaker 4>It was their expression of like the Blue Ocean strategy

1515
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:37.360
<v Speaker 4>of like, let's go someplace where everyone else is not.

1516
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:39.880
<v Speaker 4>And really what they ended up realizing the reason it

1517
01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:41.920
<v Speaker 4>worked with the Wii is because it was less powerful,

1518
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 4>and so they saved a ton of money and so

1519
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.199
<v Speaker 4>they could just focus on software innovation. That's the thing

1520
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:48.679
<v Speaker 4>that has survived from the WI because that's the first

1521
01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:50.800
<v Speaker 4>time they did that, Like though all the other gimmick

1522
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:53.199
<v Speaker 4>stuff did go away, but stay in a generation behind

1523
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:55.760
<v Speaker 4>with their hardware, so they could like put more money

1524
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.880
<v Speaker 4>into making software that stayed and that's what mattered from

1525
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.599
<v Speaker 4>that generation. So yeah, they're they're actually just as weird.

1526
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 4>Putting out an underpowered console is still weird. So yeah,

1527
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:07.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm totally happy with it.

1528
01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep.

1529
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:09.400
<v Speaker 2>And I guess, like, you know, you could argue that

1530
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the DS and the three DS were gimmicky, but like

1531
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.360
<v Speaker 2>again the game like they did some clever stuff with

1532
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the dual screen stuff, but it did but.

1533
01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Like probably top tier gimmick, and you know, hard to

1534
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.000
<v Speaker 4>define gimmick, but that'shy would put that one in s here.

1535
01:05:22.039 --> 01:05:25.159
<v Speaker 4>There's always so much like kidro revisionist history people, a

1536
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:26.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of people did it, like the three D I did,

1537
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:29.960
<v Speaker 4>but they barely supported the three D effecting games.

1538
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:31.039
<v Speaker 3>By the end of the three D.

1539
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Launch, consoles didn't have the fucking three D on it,

1540
01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like it's telling though that like the best

1541
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:38.719
<v Speaker 2>games you can still play without that, Like look, yeah,

1542
01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:40.599
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to see that block in the foreground

1543
01:05:40.599 --> 01:05:42.400
<v Speaker 2>in Mario three D Land, but like you can play

1544
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 2>through Mario three D Land, you know, yeah.

1545
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:45.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly.

1546
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I think there's Pokemon games that just straight up did.

1547
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:50.400
<v Speaker 3>The later Pokemon games straight up did not have three

1548
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:52.840
<v Speaker 3>D enabled at all. Cool.

1549
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Grub, you have mainly been playing the river Hillsoft

1550
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.440
<v Speaker 2>game over Blood for the original station.

1551
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:05.119
<v Speaker 4>Yea, yeah, I beat this one today. Yeah, this this

1552
01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:07.480
<v Speaker 4>was our this is my Blake Club game. I uh,

1553
01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:10.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, four episodes. Last couple were not two long

1554
01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:12.320
<v Speaker 4>episodes either. We kind of had a rush last week

1555
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:14.760
<v Speaker 4>and rush this week. So you know what, Dan, you

1556
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:15.880
<v Speaker 4>were right? Not too bad?

1557
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, it's but also appropriate, like it's not too oh

1558
01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a bad game.

1559
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:24.280
<v Speaker 4>I just mean like relatively, it's not like Katana come on, like,

1560
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's terrible and a gauntlet that never ended.

1561
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1562
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And for those that I guess you don't know Blake

1563
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Club and just listen to fire Escape, it is US

1564
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 2>three and we play two completion the worst games of

1565
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 2>all time. We have turn I did Superman sixty four

1566
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.480
<v Speaker 2>and Sonic O six Grubs Done, Dake Katana and Ride

1567
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:46.239
<v Speaker 2>to Hell, Mike Mortal Combat Mythology three D, Mortal Come Mythologies,

1568
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Fester's Quest, Mike just destroyed in one sitting, which was easy,

1569
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the more impressive things I've ever seen.

1570
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 3>I beat.

1571
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 1>After that, He's faster now, yeah.

1572
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I am faster. Uh, Jeff. Here's my big question, because

1573
01:06:56.480 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 3>I've been kind of thinking about this almost all day.

1574
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:07.039
<v Speaker 4>What genre would you call over Oh my god, yeah,

1575
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:11.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean I I would probably put it, especially if

1576
01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:13.159
<v Speaker 4>I was working in a magazine back in that day

1577
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:14.719
<v Speaker 4>and I had to review it, I'd be like, this

1578
01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:18.079
<v Speaker 4>is basically an adventure game. It's an adventure horror.

1579
01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:20.039
<v Speaker 3>It's barely survival horror.

1580
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Horny to call everything.

1581
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:24.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, you're right, you're right. If I was actually

1582
01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:27.039
<v Speaker 4>working in a magazine back then, I probably would have

1583
01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 4>called it survival horror. But so now I would call

1584
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:29.800
<v Speaker 4>it adventures.

1585
01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:31.760
<v Speaker 3>We joked at the beginning when you're playing, I'm like, oh,

1586
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:34.119
<v Speaker 3>this is kind of just grimfin Dango down to the

1587
01:07:34.119 --> 01:07:38.039
<v Speaker 3>tank controls, and it basically was that. There was some combat,

1588
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:41.159
<v Speaker 3>but ninety percent of the combat was in like the

1589
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:42.159
<v Speaker 3>last ten minutes of.

1590
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah to get into the combat, you had to still

1591
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:49.119
<v Speaker 4>still go into the item inventory, that Grim Fandango item

1592
01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:51.960
<v Speaker 4>inventory and bring it up. And even when combats started,

1593
01:07:51.960 --> 01:07:53.880
<v Speaker 4>you had to do that and the combat wouldn't pause.

1594
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 1>It what a weird take combat encounters. Yes, yeah, I had.

1595
01:07:57.920 --> 01:07:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Resid Evil where you're like side stepping a bunch of

1596
01:07:59.559 --> 01:08:02.039
<v Speaker 2>stuff around. There's like two things in the game you

1597
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:02.519
<v Speaker 2>have to do it.

1598
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:05.199
<v Speaker 3>I was shocked how much it wasn't Resident Evil, because

1599
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:09.239
<v Speaker 3>I think they thought it was like Resident Evil, but

1600
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:10.519
<v Speaker 3>it just really isn't.

1601
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:14.559
<v Speaker 4>Yep, it was. It's just a very strange game. It's

1602
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, disorienting. You do expect it to be a

1603
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:21.159
<v Speaker 4>little bit more like Resident Evil. Even like Resident Evil

1604
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:25.560
<v Speaker 4>one back on the PlayStation had some like context sensitive

1605
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:27.479
<v Speaker 4>button presses, right, Like you could walk up to a

1606
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.560
<v Speaker 4>door and if you had an item, it would use

1607
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:31.880
<v Speaker 4>it or did you have to go in your inventory

1608
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 4>and you.

1609
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:34.840
<v Speaker 2>If you had the key, Like if you had a

1610
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:36.640
<v Speaker 2>key to a door, it would be like do you

1611
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:37.920
<v Speaker 2>want to use the club key?

1612
01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1613
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Right, And so this is like, you know, it's just

1614
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:43.079
<v Speaker 4>like a level above that in terms of being a

1615
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:44.800
<v Speaker 4>little obtuse, and so you do it. You have to

1616
01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:46.359
<v Speaker 4>kind of go through everything and just be like, okay,

1617
01:08:46.399 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 4>I try everything on everything, and then you know it

1618
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:53.359
<v Speaker 4>does present as a survival whore and it's never scary,

1619
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:57.840
<v Speaker 4>it's goofy. And then you know it's a sci fi

1620
01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:00.479
<v Speaker 4>story and it's a you know, a telegraph everything from

1621
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:01.119
<v Speaker 4>a mile away.

1622
01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:02.920
<v Speaker 3>It's you know, it's very much the Clones.

1623
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:05.800
<v Speaker 4>It's it's you know, one of those games from Gaming's

1624
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:08.439
<v Speaker 4>three D infancy, where like they're just like, can we

1625
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:10.479
<v Speaker 4>do even do this in a game? And it's like, well,

1626
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:13.199
<v Speaker 4>you couldn't, but we will eventually figure this out.

1627
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.760
<v Speaker 3>It was a ton of fun to watch you play.

1628
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:18.359
<v Speaker 3>I had one of the more fun Blake Club games

1629
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:21.840
<v Speaker 3>to watch somebody play. It is a lot of that story.

1630
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 3>And the story is so cheesy and hokey and stupid,

1631
01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:29.359
<v Speaker 3>and the characters are so ridiculous and dumb. I don't

1632
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:32.359
<v Speaker 3>mean like like, oh like this is this is dumb.

1633
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean they have low IQ's, they are not very

1634
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 3>smart people. That whole aspect of it was incredible, or like,

1635
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:43.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's that you got your little robot front Pepo,

1636
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:48.960
<v Speaker 3>and I genuinely feel good about people. I like imagining

1637
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Pepo and I think it's it's that you're in a

1638
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:53.279
<v Speaker 3>special club if you know who Pepo is.

1639
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Exactly that right that now, like knowing that, yeah, there's

1640
01:09:55.960 --> 01:10:00.159
<v Speaker 4>people right there for video watchers for like no knowing

1641
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.159
<v Speaker 4>that this does have so much love for people who

1642
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.439
<v Speaker 4>watch that super replay and like now I'm like very

1643
01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:07.600
<v Speaker 4>excited to go watch that myself. And uh like we're

1644
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:09.800
<v Speaker 4>seeing the comments of people on that being like, oh,

1645
01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:11.960
<v Speaker 4>doing another rewatch of this? You know, it's Christmas time.

1646
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:13.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna sit down. I'm I'm gonna rewatch it all

1647
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:16.199
<v Speaker 4>the way with, you know, beginning to end. I'm like, yeah,

1648
01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:18.119
<v Speaker 4>I get it that this game would be a fun

1649
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:20.199
<v Speaker 4>thing to just you know, it's very MST three K.

1650
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:22.840
<v Speaker 4>It's that kind of bad game. Towards the end, I

1651
01:10:22.880 --> 01:10:26.159
<v Speaker 4>compared it to Space Mutiny with the classic ms T

1652
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:28.800
<v Speaker 4>three caps and I'm like, yeah, that is exactly what

1653
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:29.239
<v Speaker 4>I said.

1654
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:31.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, that is what this reminds me of.

1655
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:35.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, we have gotten into some real rotten games

1656
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:38.359
<v Speaker 4>at this point. I think recognizing that there should be

1657
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:40.880
<v Speaker 4>a space in Blake clip or stuff like Overblood is

1658
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 4>like crucial, right because like hokey goofy bad like b

1659
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:48.520
<v Speaker 4>movie bad like no actual B movie bad is should

1660
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:50.319
<v Speaker 4>be represented and so like it gave me a bunch

1661
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:52.600
<v Speaker 4>of ideas likely what it is some games I want

1662
01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:54.039
<v Speaker 4>to recommend for the show going forward.

1663
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Please let me play Blue Stinger. I've been a good point.

1664
01:10:57.479 --> 01:10:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I know it's your Oh well, Grub has now seen

1665
01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:01.600
<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna look like and he knows what the

1666
01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:02.039
<v Speaker 2>game is.

1667
01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Grub, I'm jealous.

1668
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Have you do?

1669
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with the game, Grub?

1670
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:09.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to make myself familiar. I gotta find out

1671
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 4>what this thing's about. I gotta see look like I

1672
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:14.640
<v Speaker 4>do know. That's why I'm jealous.

1673
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:15.199
<v Speaker 1>It's not a.

1674
01:11:15.159 --> 01:11:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Particularly tough costume to wear, Mike, We've all worn way harder.

1675
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've all worn I've worn I'm the one who

1676
01:11:21.119 --> 01:11:24.880
<v Speaker 3>always has to put face pain on something like.

1677
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:26.319
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's a rule. Now you're the only

1678
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:27.000
<v Speaker 4>one that ever will.

1679
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, fantastic? Was it? You think it was the best

1680
01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Blake Club game you've played? Yeah?

1681
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:36.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know what, that's not how thinking about

1682
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:38.600
<v Speaker 4>when I'm playing it, But it's like it's it was

1683
01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.439
<v Speaker 4>the least painful for sure. Like I definitely was like

1684
01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.840
<v Speaker 4>happy to be like playing that rather than Blues Brothers

1685
01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:46.640
<v Speaker 4>or some of these other games we thought wouldn't be

1686
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:48.960
<v Speaker 4>as bad, and like, no, Blues Brothers actually is that bad.

1687
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:52.520
<v Speaker 4>This one is that bad. Had all those weird defenders

1688
01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:55.399
<v Speaker 4>and they're wrong games. Yeah, they just don't. They played

1689
01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:57.119
<v Speaker 4>it literal different game than what I played.

1690
01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's funny, like in a weird way, Like over

1691
01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Blood is like really important to me in my career.

1692
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.880
<v Speaker 2>And also like I don't know if Blake Club would

1693
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:07.359
<v Speaker 2>exist in its current form if I had not pulled

1694
01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:10.359
<v Speaker 2>that out in like twenty ten, because it was the

1695
01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:12.119
<v Speaker 2>thing that taught me that like, and I've mentioned before

1696
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:13.760
<v Speaker 2>like super Replay was originally supposed to be like we're

1697
01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 2>in new full playthroughs of you know, first two were

1698
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:17.479
<v Speaker 2>like Mario three and Link to the Past, and then

1699
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:19.600
<v Speaker 2>like we just I pulled it out of the vault

1700
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:21.159
<v Speaker 2>one day over like what the fuck is this? I'm

1701
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:23.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna make ten play this And it was the funniest

1702
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:24.159
<v Speaker 2>shit ever and we played it.

1703
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:26.159
<v Speaker 1>But the running joke when we used.

1704
01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:29.279
<v Speaker 2>To record super Replays to completion before we even started

1705
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:31.520
<v Speaker 2>airing them, before we're doing a lot of stuff or anything,

1706
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.279
<v Speaker 2>and I just made a running joke throughout where it's like,

1707
01:12:34.279 --> 01:12:36.000
<v Speaker 2>no one's gonna fucking watch this, this is such a

1708
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:38.880
<v Speaker 2>bad game. And I started doing this like password system

1709
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:40.960
<v Speaker 2>every episode, like, all right, if you've made it to

1710
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:44.720
<v Speaker 2>episode three, the password is wienerless Steve. If you've made

1711
01:12:44.760 --> 01:12:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it to episode five, the password is insane in the

1712
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.600
<v Speaker 2>comments if you know all the passwords. And like we

1713
01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:51.119
<v Speaker 2>were all just joking like, yeah, there's gonna be like

1714
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:52.960
<v Speaker 2>ten people to watch this whole thing, and it was

1715
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 2>far and away the fucking most popular one. They started

1716
01:12:55.880 --> 01:12:57.720
<v Speaker 2>this whole like replay fan group on Facebook that I

1717
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:00.920
<v Speaker 2>think is still active called I watched it entire Overblood

1718
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Super Replay.

1719
01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it brought that up to me.

1720
01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it was just this huge thing.

1721
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:08.199
<v Speaker 2>And like, you know, Navarro came up with like the

1722
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Blake Club name and stuff back when when he was

1723
01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:13.399
<v Speaker 2>a giant bomb. But when I started playing Sonic O six,

1724
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, it wasn't I didn't have Blake Club in mind.

1725
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:17.520
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, let's play this bad game. And

1726
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would have picked up a bad

1727
01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:22.119
<v Speaker 2>game to play in its entirety if I had not

1728
01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:24.479
<v Speaker 2>seen so long ago that that can be super fun

1729
01:13:24.520 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 2>for me, and also the audience likes it so like

1730
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:30.239
<v Speaker 2>in a weird way without overblood and obviously Alex like,

1731
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:33.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Blake Club exists the way to,

1732
01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:35.039
<v Speaker 2>but it's still so funny, you know.

1733
01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Blike Club is like probably the favorite, my favorite thing

1734
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.159
<v Speaker 3>that I do right professionally.

1735
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Thing I look forward to every single week. It's the same.

1736
01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:45.039
<v Speaker 2>It's the thing I look at my calendar and I'm like, shit,

1737
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:46.640
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna I got two weeks until the next time.

1738
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to, like Jesus costume, I can't.

1739
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do. I do for some reason. I think

1740
01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:53.600
<v Speaker 3>it's important also.

1741
01:13:54.800 --> 01:13:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Weird like wise, Yeah, you know, we're learning things like

1742
01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we've talked before about like Superman Explore. Everyone just talked

1743
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:03.159
<v Speaker 2>about the Rings and we showed everyone that like a

1744
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:05.159
<v Speaker 2>lot more going on than that exactly.

1745
01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:08.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like important, like I feel

1746
01:14:08.600 --> 01:14:11.039
<v Speaker 4>like for me personally, where it's like I my perspective

1747
01:14:11.079 --> 01:14:13.880
<v Speaker 4>on games has widened, like playing all these bad games,

1748
01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:16.079
<v Speaker 4>and I always liked playing bad games, but I would

1749
01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:17.640
<v Speaker 4>just do the thing where I'll I'll play the first

1750
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:19.600
<v Speaker 4>level and I'm not going to actually beat this game.

1751
01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:22.319
<v Speaker 4>But being you know, we commit to beating the game

1752
01:14:22.359 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 4>that's the whole thing. And seeing credits on so many

1753
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:28.920
<v Speaker 4>of these really terrible things, it's like, man, I playing

1754
01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 4>bad games is always fun in retrospect, having played a

1755
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:35.199
<v Speaker 4>bad game is like, man, remember when we when that

1756
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:37.560
<v Speaker 4>thing happened. It's like and having that and be like

1757
01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:39.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't always feel that way when I play a

1758
01:14:39.800 --> 01:14:42.199
<v Speaker 4>game that disappoints me. That it's like a big budget game,

1759
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:44.840
<v Speaker 4>that's like and then it helps me identify, like what's

1760
01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:47.000
<v Speaker 4>the difference here? Like what is this game missing? And

1761
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:48.920
<v Speaker 4>so when we talk about that stuff, I feel more

1762
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:50.960
<v Speaker 4>informed because I've played Diakatana.

1763
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:52.960
<v Speaker 3>There was it was a part when I had to

1764
01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:55.560
<v Speaker 3>play that bad RoboCop game for the original Xbox so

1765
01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:58.399
<v Speaker 3>I just needed to rant and I was screaming about, like.

1766
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.479
<v Speaker 4>Look at this right now. This is a virtual world

1767
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:05.439
<v Speaker 4>that was created with what is it? Zero's It's a miracle.

1768
01:15:05.600 --> 01:15:08.600
<v Speaker 4>It's a magic and I and I hate it.

1769
01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:11.600
<v Speaker 3>I think about all the time that even these awful

1770
01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:15.079
<v Speaker 3>games are somehow miracles, and in some way they're almost

1771
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:17.880
<v Speaker 3>more special because nobody cares about them.

1772
01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.560
<v Speaker 4>Wait, I mean, like, yeah, go, how do they even

1773
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:21.119
<v Speaker 4>get across the finish and we know how hard it

1774
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:22.840
<v Speaker 4>is to make games. Of course, it was easier back

1775
01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:24.279
<v Speaker 4>than than it is today in a lot of ways.

1776
01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:26.439
<v Speaker 4>But still, you know, it took a village to get

1777
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:29.239
<v Speaker 4>these things done. And you know what was it like

1778
01:15:29.319 --> 01:15:31.600
<v Speaker 4>working there? Like to get it across that finish line.

1779
01:15:31.600 --> 01:15:34.279
<v Speaker 4>It must have been like pulling teeth And somehow so

1780
01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:37.319
<v Speaker 4>many of these games actually did accomplish exactly that. Even

1781
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:42.039
<v Speaker 4>the game Mike's Gonna play next? Are we just gonna

1782
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:44.520
<v Speaker 4>after that? Have damn played the nine to eleven games?

1783
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:51.479
<v Speaker 3>Watch one with Osama Bin lauded as the final pod.

1784
01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I know I've got the beard, but I will not

1785
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:57.119
<v Speaker 1>put my foot down undressing. Does that want to be clear?

1786
01:15:57.439 --> 01:15:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I want to be clear, Dad, I have zero

1787
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:04.239
<v Speaker 3>interests and seeing you dress up as Osama did allotted.

1788
01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even going to do the obvious name. But

1789
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I do think I was at a Halloween party one

1790
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:17.199
<v Speaker 3>year in like the twenty tens, whereas like Dan, what.

1791
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.680
<v Speaker 4>What is that.

1792
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Mean?

1793
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:22.159
<v Speaker 4>They were about trying to figure it out? Right, I'll

1794
01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:26.880
<v Speaker 4>do it. I was at a Halloween party at a bar.

1795
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:28.800
<v Speaker 4>It was like the costume contest. It was like, oh,

1796
01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:31.800
<v Speaker 4>we go, we got the Ghostbuster and the Joker.

1797
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:36.479
<v Speaker 3>Some guy dressed up as Osama Bin Wanden like he

1798
01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:38.159
<v Speaker 3>didn't go over very well.

1799
01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:39.600
<v Speaker 1>It's real weird.

1800
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Although the number number three most sexy fictional character Osama

1801
01:16:43.880 --> 01:16:45.239
<v Speaker 4>bin laden right there behind Batman.

1802
01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh going to it? Yeah, one god, I'm sure it's

1803
01:16:49.079 --> 01:16:49.479
<v Speaker 1>still like this.

1804
01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:51.479
<v Speaker 3>I remember going to a comic con in like twenty

1805
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:54.359
<v Speaker 3>ten and half the guys were Deadpool and half the

1806
01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:55.600
<v Speaker 3>girls were Harley Quinn.

1807
01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh of course. Yeah, there's a big stever when you're

1808
01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:00.720
<v Speaker 2>in college. When Irwin just died, I never thought they

1809
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:02.800
<v Speaker 2>were hilarious by doing the sting right thing.

1810
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:04.760
<v Speaker 4>And they have the sting ray sticking out of their

1811
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:07.079
<v Speaker 4>heart or whatever, just like very cool.

1812
01:17:07.279 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 3>They should have all stopped because nobody was gonna match Norms.

1813
01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Steve Irwin, how you do that? That's how you do that,

1814
01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Dirk Joe.

1815
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:17.399
<v Speaker 3>It was like, I died so young. I think he

1816
01:17:17.479 --> 01:17:19.159
<v Speaker 3>died at a ripe bold age for a.

1817
01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Crocodile was tragedy at the time.

1818
01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Two days later.

1819
01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:28.720
<v Speaker 1>We're just making please please don't make me laugh at this.

1820
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:33.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm not laugh Tragedy at the time is I don't know,

1821
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.239
<v Speaker 4>maybe the funniest thing anyone's ever said I got.

1822
01:17:36.279 --> 01:17:37.640
<v Speaker 3>I think about it every day.

1823
01:17:37.479 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 1>He who can laugh?

1824
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Frank, you don't want to know.

1825
01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:51.199
<v Speaker 2>God, that's what we joked about Overblood or like Blake

1826
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Love being important, But it really is like we work

1827
01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:56.399
<v Speaker 2>for a corporation that has all sorts of ever changing

1828
01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:58.840
<v Speaker 2>ideas about how to make video games content, and I

1829
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:01.039
<v Speaker 2>swear to God the thing I'm like, no, you were

1830
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 2>not fucking touching. This is Blake Club. We aired the

1831
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:07.880
<v Speaker 2>finale today and I was not kidding. I was specifically

1832
01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:10.560
<v Speaker 2>told like, do not let Blake Club go late. You

1833
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.039
<v Speaker 2>need to be in this meeting when it starts, and

1834
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:14.720
<v Speaker 2>it was clear that we were running a little behind.

1835
01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, look if I get fired, because

1836
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to see the end of over Blood today.

1837
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:21.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's a good way to go out.

1838
01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I guess that's how it happens. The tune in next

1839
01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.039
<v Speaker 3>week on the game Best channel for bad.

1840
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Game Clubs, We'll club.

1841
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:37.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't care, just we even download the videos and upload.

1842
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:40.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't give a ship.

1843
01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:50.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, glad, we're all liigned on that, Okay, for like hell, yes, yeah.

1844
01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Mike, you played Castable Illusion while you were taking a ship?

1845
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:56.359
<v Speaker 3>I did, so, Yeah, I have received from Dan a

1846
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:58.760
<v Speaker 3>Chinese handheld on my own. I know that you two

1847
01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:01.319
<v Speaker 3>love these things. Jeff gave me one to mess around

1848
01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:02.760
<v Speaker 3>with a little bit. Which one was that, Jeff that

1849
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 3>I just left at my house.

1850
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:07.640
<v Speaker 4>I think that was an early Ambernick one.

1851
01:19:08.760 --> 01:19:09.479
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, yeah, the.

1852
01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:10.960
<v Speaker 1>One that I had you play in the steam room

1853
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:12.640
<v Speaker 1>grub you know what.

1854
01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:15.039
<v Speaker 4>It might be. I think it might be, Yes, totally.

1855
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.479
<v Speaker 3>This is the Ambernick SP so it has that clamshell

1856
01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:21.520
<v Speaker 3>shape of the Game Boy Advance SP. One of the

1857
01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 3>best handhelds ever and just the best form factor for

1858
01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:28.319
<v Speaker 3>one of these. The reason I asked Stan for this

1859
01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:30.319
<v Speaker 3>is because I knew he was like sort of preparing

1860
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:33.199
<v Speaker 3>them and uh for for family members, and I was like,

1861
01:19:33.359 --> 01:19:35.439
<v Speaker 3>I'll buy one of these from you if you still

1862
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:39.079
<v Speaker 3>have one. I'm doing this Disney World trip soon. And

1863
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:42.119
<v Speaker 3>it's funny because I used to always love having my

1864
01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Game Boy Advance or my DS in my pocket because

1865
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.239
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you're in Disney and you're in a line. There's

1866
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:50.600
<v Speaker 3>not much to do. It's like an hour long line sometimes,

1867
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.079
<v Speaker 3>so you just play something on there. And it's weird

1868
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:56.039
<v Speaker 3>that that's actually something I've lost now that you know

1869
01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.720
<v Speaker 3>those aren't modern systems. I don't really have them ready

1870
01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:03.319
<v Speaker 3>to go like I used to. So sometimes I you know,

1871
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:05.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying I can't talk to people or look

1872
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:07.000
<v Speaker 3>at my phone. I'll do that stuff with the phone.

1873
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, look at what the little game boy in

1874
01:20:08.920 --> 01:20:13.000
<v Speaker 4>your pocket said. I was like, yeah, of course, that's

1875
01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:15.159
<v Speaker 4>why I want them to. I imagine myself in a

1876
01:20:15.199 --> 01:20:17.920
<v Speaker 4>line at Cedar Point with my Game Boy Advance.

1877
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Sp like that.

1878
01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:21.359
<v Speaker 4>It makes that feeling is I don't know something about

1879
01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:21.880
<v Speaker 4>it's magical.

1880
01:20:22.640 --> 01:20:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I kind of go there real quick. I kind of

1881
01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:25.479
<v Speaker 1>go the opposite way.

1882
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Mike is such a like innocent uh, like you know,

1883
01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:30.520
<v Speaker 2>like I'll play it in the line for Pirates the

1884
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Caribbean or whatever. I use mine a lot, But you

1885
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:34.399
<v Speaker 2>know what, I think about a lot about like why

1886
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:35.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I have it.

1887
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:37.479
<v Speaker 4>On you Like the old game Boy Advance SPADs where

1888
01:20:37.479 --> 01:20:39.319
<v Speaker 4>they're like having sex or whatever and what.

1889
01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.479
<v Speaker 2>No, it's because they say, if you ever witnessed something

1890
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:46.720
<v Speaker 2>unbelievably traumatic, that you should start playing Tetris and it'll

1891
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:49.039
<v Speaker 2>help their brain process it. So it's like I will think, like, oh,

1892
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:50.439
<v Speaker 2>if I'm ever like a a mall and there's a

1893
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:50.960
<v Speaker 2>mass shooting.

1894
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I could just play Tetris real quick.

1895
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:56.439
<v Speaker 3>There you go. What the hell?

1896
01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I never heard this?

1897
01:20:57.920 --> 01:20:59.720
<v Speaker 4>Wait, they say you should play Tetris.

1898
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:00.800
<v Speaker 3>That is a thing.

1899
01:21:00.920 --> 01:21:04.159
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing awful that I have.

1900
01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I've seen some fucked up stuff in real life that like,

1901
01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:08.079
<v Speaker 2>oh I wish I could have just been able to

1902
01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:10.880
<v Speaker 2>play Tetris after seeing that body that just fell off that.

1903
01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Roof of New York City.

1904
01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:14.720
<v Speaker 4>Okay, And then the next step of this is that's

1905
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:16.680
<v Speaker 4>why you want to game Boy Advance with you.

1906
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:22.319
<v Speaker 1>That's a little bonus. Okay, angled corpse and the sidewalk.

1907
01:21:22.560 --> 01:21:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I could be like, I'll play a little Tetris, that too,

1908
01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:28.880
<v Speaker 1>all right?

1909
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:32.439
<v Speaker 3>Cool? So I bought it for for for Mickey's house.

1910
01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:38.000
<v Speaker 1>That's not why.

1911
01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I like the outside Chinese handheld for preparation of corpses.

1912
01:21:44.600 --> 01:21:45.880
<v Speaker 4>For the impossible pivot.

1913
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:48.039
<v Speaker 3>I was excited you had this green one because that's

1914
01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:50.039
<v Speaker 3>the one my childhood one was. I was like, oh.

1915
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:55.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I did. I did immediately. So you preloaded a

1916
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.000
<v Speaker 4>lot of games on here already, which I appreciate. But

1917
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:00.760
<v Speaker 4>I did immediately go and add Ridge Racer type on the.

1918
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Foot right, because the thing is it can do PlayStation stuff.

1919
01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:05.560
<v Speaker 2>But it's a little picky because it doesn't have an

1920
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.039
<v Speaker 2>analog stick. So I think I just feel like something

1921
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the night maybe and like twist.

1922
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you put sim and I crushed Bandicoot one resume

1923
01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:14.239
<v Speaker 3>on one. But and I was aware of that. I'm like, well,

1924
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:16.760
<v Speaker 3>I actually play Regester type four of a D pad. Yeah,

1925
01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:18.520
<v Speaker 3>that's I like to play it. So and I already

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01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:20.560
<v Speaker 3>played a race on it and it worked great, So great,

1927
01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:21.079
<v Speaker 3>that's good.

1928
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:23.359
<v Speaker 2>And I also but yeah, they also take up the

1929
01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:25.319
<v Speaker 2>most space too, so that's why it's like I loaded

1930
01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:27.199
<v Speaker 2>everything up so full sets of like any s and

1931
01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:28.880
<v Speaker 2>superintend Like.

1932
01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:31.960
<v Speaker 4>Have you explained your process of like uh, you know,

1933
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:34.439
<v Speaker 4>uh imprinting the cards and stuff like that, and like

1934
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:35.920
<v Speaker 4>how you do this and buying all these and.

1935
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:39.079
<v Speaker 2>You've done it once and I've got the image saved

1936
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:43.439
<v Speaker 2>to clone these SD cards. But I'm gonna have to

1937
01:22:43.479 --> 01:22:44.680
<v Speaker 2>redo it, I think because there are a couple of

1938
01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:46.279
<v Speaker 2>settings and they're weird things where it's like I don't

1939
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:47.800
<v Speaker 2>know why super metroids down on it here or whatever.

1940
01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>But I think the most important thing I did do

1941
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:52.359
<v Speaker 2>it is when you get it just from the factory,

1942
01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:54.479
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't do the sp thing where it's like if

1943
01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you shut it, it goes into like about that.

1944
01:22:57.880 --> 01:22:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Because it did do I was like, is it gonna

1945
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:00.720
<v Speaker 3>do that? And then it did.

1946
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh good, I hacked.

1947
01:23:02.039 --> 01:23:04.359
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't initially do that, but like if you installed

1948
01:23:04.359 --> 01:23:05.840
<v Speaker 2>it is this the one has like MoU os.

1949
01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:07.439
<v Speaker 1>It's like muos or something.

1950
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:09.680
<v Speaker 2>You put that on there and you can go into

1951
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:11.840
<v Speaker 2>some power settings and it loads you straight to like

1952
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:13.760
<v Speaker 2>the emulator list and all that stuff. So it's like

1953
01:23:13.800 --> 01:23:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it's just a much cleaner, better interface than it comes with.

1954
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And I just bought four more, so I'm gonna have

1955
01:23:18.920 --> 01:23:20.439
<v Speaker 2>to like do this again, so I might go in

1956
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:22.479
<v Speaker 2>and try to refine like this first batch like that

1957
01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>you got Mike that was in my first try, so

1958
01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll probably do it again.

1959
01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's already pretty good.

1960
01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:29.640
<v Speaker 3>The only other game I added right now is actually

1961
01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:33.319
<v Speaker 3>the uh is Mother three with the fan translation, because

1962
01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:37.399
<v Speaker 3>I finally played Earthbound relatively recently after years of not

1963
01:23:37.439 --> 01:23:39.720
<v Speaker 3>being able to get into it and freaking loved it,

1964
01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:41.840
<v Speaker 3>and people go off about Mother.

1965
01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Three also and straight yeah, so I actually excited after this.

1966
01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I have a couple questions related to that, but yeah,

1967
01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:52.159
<v Speaker 2>these things are awesome. I just love like you know,

1968
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I was on a next Lander thing a couple of

1969
01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:56.960
<v Speaker 2>days ago and I was talking about these and Alex

1970
01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:59.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, these things are probably really cheap and shitty, right,

1971
01:23:59.399 --> 01:24:01.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, they're actually awesome.

1972
01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:01.479
<v Speaker 3>Place.

1973
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:03.840
<v Speaker 4>They started off cheap and shitty, and then they the

1974
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:06.520
<v Speaker 4>competition of like all these companies working against each other

1975
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:07.840
<v Speaker 4>forced them to make it better.

1976
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's you know, it's it's awesome.

1977
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>It's good screens, good USBC chargings. A lot of them

1978
01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:14.439
<v Speaker 2>will just come with the like tempered glass screen protector.

1979
01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.840
<v Speaker 2>There's a million great YouTube channels and videos of just

1980
01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:19.319
<v Speaker 2>like here's how to load this up in the right way.

1981
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:21.279
<v Speaker 4>And I mean it's it's all the manufacturing plants that

1982
01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:24.159
<v Speaker 4>make the expensive stuff as well. They're all made in China.

1983
01:24:24.479 --> 01:24:26.399
<v Speaker 4>So it's like this is like when like one of

1984
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:29.760
<v Speaker 4>those products gets like deprecated or whatever, someone just comes

1985
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:31.359
<v Speaker 4>along as they're like, well, let's makes what can we

1986
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:33.760
<v Speaker 4>do with this place that makes a bunch of LCD screens,

1987
01:24:34.119 --> 01:24:35.800
<v Speaker 4>And someone has the bright idea like, well let's make

1988
01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 4>tiny little you know, Chinese handhelds. And it's it's the

1989
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:40.880
<v Speaker 4>same stuff, just now it's being like sold at a

1990
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:42.920
<v Speaker 4>lower cost because that doesn't have the overhead of like

1991
01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:45.439
<v Speaker 4>an American corporation needed to get it's cut. It's yeah,

1992
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:46.319
<v Speaker 4>it's a good situation.

1993
01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm pretty excited that there's a bunch of Sega

1994
01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Master games on here, because as much I love Sega,

1995
01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:54.119
<v Speaker 3>I never really played much. Master System wasn't much of

1996
01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:56.479
<v Speaker 3>a thing in the US, and I watch a lot

1997
01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:58.600
<v Speaker 3>of retro gaming channels and a lot of them we'll

1998
01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:01.159
<v Speaker 3>talk about best Masters, syste some games. It's all these

1999
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:03.439
<v Speaker 3>things I haven't played. There's a lot of Disney games

2000
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:06.279
<v Speaker 3>on the Master System. There's two Mickey Mouse ones, there's

2001
01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:09.000
<v Speaker 3>two Donald Duck ones. They're all supposed to be good,

2002
01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:11.880
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of other weird stuff. So I'm like probably

2003
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.359
<v Speaker 3>gonna play a lot of Master System games on this thing,

2004
01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>and that's very exciting to me.

2005
01:25:16.399 --> 01:25:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I've had people ask that, like, look, you know,

2006
01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:22.439
<v Speaker 2>I have an analog analog pocket and it's fantastic, and like,

2007
01:25:22.479 --> 01:25:24.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've had people ask, oh, and thats supposed

2008
01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:24.560
<v Speaker 2>to be the best one.

2009
01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you just use that? And it's like, I

2010
01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:26.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

2011
01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I like to play old games in any circumstance, not

2012
01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:30.880
<v Speaker 2>like people to take them on the go and stuff.

2013
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>And for me, it's like different use cases.

2014
01:25:32.760 --> 01:25:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Like the pocket is the one where it's like recently

2015
01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I've been playing through the Warrior Land games and stuff

2016
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>where it's like I'm gonna sit down, like while I'm

2017
01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>sitting here at home watching raw in the background, I'm

2018
01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.560
<v Speaker 2>playing on the analog. But that is the more kind

2019
01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:46.640
<v Speaker 2>of high end expensive one. It's also a little bigger,

2020
01:25:46.640 --> 01:25:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a little heavier and stuff. So like something like this

2021
01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:51.159
<v Speaker 2>like the sp where the screen is not exposed, or

2022
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I love the the trim Ui brick. That one's actually

2023
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Rick's awesome. That one's so awesome. And they're smaller you

2024
01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:57.680
<v Speaker 2>can literally fit them in your pocket.

2025
01:25:57.680 --> 01:25:59.720
<v Speaker 3>It's so tiny. It's such a good form factor. The

2026
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:00.920
<v Speaker 3>show is so good.

2027
01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if something the worst case, which I've never

2028
01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:05.800
<v Speaker 2>had anything like this break, but like if it did,

2029
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.239
<v Speaker 2>this isn't two hundred bucks like the right you know,

2030
01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>you get these un sale for like fifty you know.

2031
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's a different use cases.

2032
01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:15.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've never bought any of the ones that are

2033
01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.039
<v Speaker 4>like one hundred and fifty plus that can do like

2034
01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:21.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe PS three games. And I know there's

2035
01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:22.640
<v Speaker 4>some people interested in that, but like, whenever I get

2036
01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:25.199
<v Speaker 4>to that point, I'm like steam Deck, I got my

2037
01:26:25.239 --> 01:26:27.000
<v Speaker 4>steam Deck. I will just go back to the steam

2038
01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:29.840
<v Speaker 4>deck because the price is getting a little bit questionable

2039
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:32.520
<v Speaker 4>at that point, and the use case becomes a little

2040
01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:33.800
<v Speaker 4>like sure, I would like to be able to play

2041
01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:35.319
<v Speaker 4>I guess PS three games on the go, but those

2042
01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:37.239
<v Speaker 4>games aren't really made with that in mind, and.

2043
01:26:38.079 --> 01:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Resistance exactly, pware. I'm playing Tetris during Master.

2044
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Tietiflood on the sand, I can wait until I'm home.

2045
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's so many eight bit and sixteen bit games

2046
01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.239
<v Speaker 3>that I'm interested in. We want, like want to play

2047
01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:53.880
<v Speaker 3>for the first time or replay. That's that's enough for.

2048
01:26:54.039 --> 01:26:56.840
<v Speaker 2>They're the best one, or yeah you got twenty minutes

2049
01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:58.439
<v Speaker 2>until you're playing lands. Yeah, boot this up for a

2050
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:00.439
<v Speaker 2>little bit, and I got a couple of Warrior where chunks,

2051
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:01.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, and.

2052
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:03.239
<v Speaker 4>Then if you need something else you can Yeah, Tony Hawk.

2053
01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Will work great. Yeah, Yeah, it's a They're They're fucking awesome.

2054
01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:07.479
<v Speaker 2>I love my get a lot of use out of them,

2055
01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:09.439
<v Speaker 2>and even just the ritual of like getting a new

2056
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>one and like looking up the videos on the best

2057
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>way to like switch out the UI and load up

2058
01:27:13.640 --> 01:27:15.079
<v Speaker 2>all the games. Figure out like, okay, I've got this much,

2059
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I got sixty four gigs. Here's what I'm gonna put

2060
01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:19.199
<v Speaker 2>on this one. You know, Like I.

2061
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:21.199
<v Speaker 4>Think these things are only going to become more prominent

2062
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 4>as I think consoles in general are going to become

2063
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:28.600
<v Speaker 4>more and more of a hobbyist thing, right, sure, so

2064
01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:31.439
<v Speaker 4>it's good that we're all getting prepared for this reality.

2065
01:27:31.560 --> 01:27:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, yes, all right, well I think the covers, Like

2066
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:37.920
<v Speaker 2>like I said, we we're talking about the new games

2067
01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:39.199
<v Speaker 2>all the time. We want to check us out on

2068
01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Giant Bomb and also game mess decides last than in

2069
01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:45.560
<v Speaker 2>ten Dogs. That's a thank you for the podcast that

2070
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Greba and I put out there.

2071
01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Great stuff.

2072
01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:50.479
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I want to ask you maybe this is

2073
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.159
<v Speaker 2>a different angle here. I'm about to spend dozens of

2074
01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:58.159
<v Speaker 2>hours on planes, like in the next month, more than

2075
01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>one overseas strip I've got pack, I've got a lot

2076
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>coming up, and I always, as someone who doesn't like flying,

2077
01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I like to make sure I'm like over prepared in

2078
01:28:06.119 --> 01:28:09.439
<v Speaker 2>terms of games. But there is that like choice paralysis thing,

2079
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>so I have I'm planning on bringing the first one.

2080
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm going on is actually by the time this episode

2081
01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:18.039
<v Speaker 2>goes up, I'll be in a different country. So I'm

2082
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>bringing the Steam deck and I'm bringing I can't said

2083
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:24.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing the analog or maybe the trim. You why,

2084
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>but let me here's here's what I'm looking at here

2085
01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>and tell me what you guys would think in terms

2086
01:28:29.319 --> 01:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>of like a playing game, because I want to, like

2087
01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I have a billion ready to go and downloaded, but

2088
01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I want to be able to focus on something and

2089
01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, I'm gonna beat this or I'm going

2090
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:39.479
<v Speaker 2>to really spend sure, sure, sure, Okay, the dominant collection.

2091
01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:42.239
<v Speaker 2>I haven't gone through order Evercclesia, that's an Oh, that's

2092
01:28:42.279 --> 01:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>a no brainer.

2093
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be good. Crash four never really played through that.

2094
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Crash four is great. I love Crash for it. I

2095
01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:51.199
<v Speaker 3>like it's my favorite Crash game. It's definitely the best

2096
01:28:51.199 --> 01:28:54.119
<v Speaker 3>one best Crash game. Okay, yes, no, it is. It

2097
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:56.880
<v Speaker 3>is beyond good and evil. The twentieth anniversary Mike told

2098
01:28:56.880 --> 01:28:58.119
<v Speaker 3>me about that. I said it was really good.

2099
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.800
<v Speaker 4>It was, yeah, it's surprising good. I think that game

2100
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:02.600
<v Speaker 4>falls off a little bit towards.

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01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:05.840
<v Speaker 3>The end, so but still it's when that first hour

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01:29:05.960 --> 01:29:08.720
<v Speaker 3>is actually fantastic, you know, that's just what you play.

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01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.520
<v Speaker 3>It is magical, just thin, like, man, this was really

2104
01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:13.920
<v Speaker 3>good for you know. Of course the log games are

2105
01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:16.439
<v Speaker 3>good back then, but it almost feels like the first

2106
01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:20.279
<v Speaker 3>three sixty era game to meet in some ways. I wonder, oh,

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01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:21.680
<v Speaker 3>if you'll agree when you play it.

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01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:24.039
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a little bit XBLA. I played through it.

2109
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:26.560
<v Speaker 2>I just haven't played through since the XBLA version, and

2110
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it's really neat.

2111
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.279
<v Speaker 3>We're all going to play the sequel here any minute now.

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01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Right that next month, I think, yeah, I got a

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01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>hat in Time, which h er let me. I'll solve

2114
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.760
<v Speaker 2>an old giant bomb mystery that people have wondered at

2115
01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:44.279
<v Speaker 2>one point. You might have seen a coming soon or

2116
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:46.439
<v Speaker 2>later this week, a quick look of hat and time,

2117
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:48.479
<v Speaker 2>and then it mysteriously disappeared.

2118
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And there were some Reddit threads and NeoGAF things. What

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01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:51.279
<v Speaker 1>happened here?

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01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the deal, but I did prep a

2121
01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>quick look for had in time, and I remember really

2122
01:29:56.760 --> 01:29:58.399
<v Speaker 2>liking it, and it was ready to go.

2123
01:29:58.479 --> 01:29:59.079
<v Speaker 1>We recorded it.

2124
01:29:59.079 --> 01:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I was a giant bumby at the time, maybe,

2125
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:04.520
<v Speaker 2>And there was some sort of like internet drama, some

2126
01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:05.319
<v Speaker 2>socialmedia thing.

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01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:07.119
<v Speaker 3>It was like what.

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01:30:06.680 --> 01:30:08.520
<v Speaker 4>What's the name or something like what was his name?

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01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:11.800
<v Speaker 4>The guy that was on John Tron? John Tron, Yeah,

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01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:15.039
<v Speaker 4>he was. It was like about the creator. No, that

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01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:16.920
<v Speaker 4>was you're thinking, you're thinking of ukulele and the voice

2132
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:17.800
<v Speaker 4>John Troun did a voice.

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01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:20.399
<v Speaker 3>You're right, there was there was. There was a drama

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01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:21.119
<v Speaker 3>with a hat in time.

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01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:23.960
<v Speaker 2>It was so like because we're kind of fighting against

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01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:25.239
<v Speaker 2>it because I was like, I don't think anyone knows

2137
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>about this, because like I hadn't heard about this, and

2138
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw the guy popping up on other outlets and stuff,

2139
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>so it's like it wasn't the thing where like this

2140
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:33.079
<v Speaker 2>guy was like roundly canceled. But I remember not really

2141
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>knowing what the deal was, and I was like, let's

2142
01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:35.159
<v Speaker 2>just put it up.

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01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not like a John Tron.

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01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't John Tron is also in a hatt and time

2145
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:39.199
<v Speaker 3>is he?

2146
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

2147
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:42.199
<v Speaker 4>I think it was John Tron because John Tron said

2148
01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:43.960
<v Speaker 4>some white strim ship, because that I.

2149
01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Would have understood.

2150
01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:49.119
<v Speaker 2>This was something about like like creator like lightly docs

2151
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:53.079
<v Speaker 2>someone like years. I can't remember his accidental or something,

2152
01:30:53.119 --> 01:30:55.119
<v Speaker 2>but I remember it was so kind of obscure that

2153
01:30:55.199 --> 01:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like I tried to look it up and I was

2154
01:30:56.720 --> 01:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>struggling to figure out what the thing was. I remember

2155
01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:01.399
<v Speaker 2>being like, like, we whyt to just put this up.

2156
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>This isn't like some weird Nazi thing or something like that.

2157
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>But the call was made to like, let's not put

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01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:06.119
<v Speaker 2>it up.

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01:31:06.520 --> 01:31:08.920
<v Speaker 4>So for anyone who I remember something, I remember something

2160
01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:10.680
<v Speaker 4>a with hat and time, and I was so excited

2161
01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:13.039
<v Speaker 4>about it, and then it happened and I'm like, I

2162
01:31:13.039 --> 01:31:15.159
<v Speaker 4>don't want to play it now. I remember feeling that way.

2163
01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:16.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember exactly the details.

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01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm Chris, what you think, because like, I love three

2165
01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:21.199
<v Speaker 3>D platformers and I tried to place on switch and

2166
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:23.920
<v Speaker 3>it just it ran very poorly on switch, so I

2167
01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.479
<v Speaker 3>just couldn't really stick with it. But if you think

2168
01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:28.399
<v Speaker 3>there's something special there, I definitely would try to play

2169
01:31:28.399 --> 01:31:29.159
<v Speaker 3>it some other way.

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01:31:29.479 --> 01:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, I kind of want to go back here,

2171
01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:33.279
<v Speaker 2>because I actually never went back after that quickly was recorded,

2172
01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>and I remember thinking like, oh, this is pretty fucking good.

2173
01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm in a three D platformer mood lately.

2174
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Right right, you started SpongeBob SquarePants Rehydrated.

2175
01:31:41.520 --> 01:31:43.159
<v Speaker 2>I did that quick stream and it was good. I

2176
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't keep going on it. I should have that downloaded.

2177
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Like it's just like on a plan especially, it's good

2178
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>to just have some like turn your brain off type

2179
01:31:48.920 --> 01:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. I've got some obvious ones here that

2180
01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I've played before that I know will be great. You

2181
01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>got into the breach Across three D with the stylus

2182
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>on my phone say Across. Oh.

2183
01:31:57.159 --> 01:31:59.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you guys ever played pick Cross,

2184
01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:01.399
<v Speaker 3>but I've been playing. I played a ton of Pitcross.

2185
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:02.399
<v Speaker 3>I beat the Danny.

2186
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>You you know what's happening right Nowross on the switch online.

2187
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. After years of.

2188
01:32:09.960 --> 01:32:13.039
<v Speaker 4>Not just me but primarily me being like, hey, Mike,

2189
01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Pitcross is awesome. Pickcross three D one of the best

2190
01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:18.359
<v Speaker 4>games ever, He's like, yeah, I don't get it. Then

2191
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:21.359
<v Speaker 4>three D he has not done three three Okay, you

2192
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.039
<v Speaker 4>gotta do that now. But like, yeah, why you would

2193
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:24.520
<v Speaker 4>least see Pitcross now because that's.

2194
01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:25.159
<v Speaker 1>He loves it.

2195
01:32:25.680 --> 01:32:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, it was like, it's not some short

2196
01:32:28.359 --> 01:32:30.720
<v Speaker 3>thing to beat all the puzzles in the game Boy version.

2197
01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:33.640
<v Speaker 3>It was like fifteen hours of gameplay or something. It's

2198
01:32:33.720 --> 01:32:35.039
<v Speaker 3>the only thing I wanted to do.

2199
01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:40.920
<v Speaker 4>There's a great Konami mobile game that has a bunch

2200
01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:44.000
<v Speaker 4>of of those, Well, I figure with that, like the Pixel.

2201
01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Collection or something. Yeah, it's yeah Pixel.

2202
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:51.079
<v Speaker 4>They have that Japanese super Famicom one on Nisola. Tried

2203
01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:53.800
<v Speaker 4>playing that, but I thought, like others, won't be a

2204
01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:56.079
<v Speaker 4>game where the Japanese matters too much. But the very

2205
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:58.399
<v Speaker 4>first thing I did was it was like a Japanese

2206
01:32:58.479 --> 01:32:59.960
<v Speaker 4>symbol was the Pitcross puzzle.

2207
01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:02.359
<v Speaker 3>It's clearly supposed to mean something. I was like, okay,

2208
01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:03.600
<v Speaker 3>well maybe maybe not this one.

2209
01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I swear my try three D. It is the

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01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>pinnacle of anyone really likes an enthusiast three D.

2211
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:11.840
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna it's gonna be It's if you like Pitcross

2212
01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:13.079
<v Speaker 4>at all, You're you're gonna be blown away.

2213
01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:14.640
<v Speaker 3>But it's like, at first I was like, okay, I

2214
01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:17.039
<v Speaker 3>just guys, I just only now understood Pitcross.

2215
01:33:17.079 --> 01:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not ready.

2216
01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:19.000
<v Speaker 3>And now I'm like I'm ready.

2217
01:33:19.079 --> 01:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready.

2218
01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I got this.

2219
01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Obviously.

2220
01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Slay the Spier is one of those games I started

2221
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, this is awesome. I never kept

2222
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>going with it. Rogue Legacy two I never played past

2223
01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:30.399
<v Speaker 2>early access Mario Golf. I played a decent amount on

2224
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the analog, and I want to finish. Oh do have

2225
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>chib Robo on here, but I think now I'm gonna

2226
01:33:34.880 --> 01:33:37.439
<v Speaker 2>wait for the switch to sure, yeah I should wait.

2227
01:33:37.760 --> 01:33:40.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm the opposite because I have a copy of gb

2228
01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Robo for GameCube and I'm like, okay, I want to

2229
01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:46.399
<v Speaker 3>maybe actually finally play that before the switch too comes in.

2230
01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, I I so this is one here is

2231
01:33:51.039 --> 01:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Warrior or no, sorry not Warland, Earthbound and Mother three.

2232
01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:57.279
<v Speaker 2>So that's what I wanted to ask about, was so

2233
01:33:57.479 --> 01:34:01.279
<v Speaker 2>those those seem like they'd be good playing games, you know,

2234
01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:03.399
<v Speaker 2>And I was asking grub like, oh, would there be

2235
01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:05.439
<v Speaker 2>an analog thing or should I play on like Steam Deck?

2236
01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I think, like, probably good analog even even though earth

2237
01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Bound was.

2238
01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:11.520
<v Speaker 4>From other three for sure, I've not I've tried earth

2239
01:34:11.560 --> 01:34:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Bound a couple of times and I got started. I

2240
01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:14.479
<v Speaker 4>was really into it one time, but I have not

2241
01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:16.600
<v Speaker 4>played past that. I know that there are some quirks

2242
01:34:16.640 --> 01:34:20.199
<v Speaker 4>of it being an older RPG that that might make

2243
01:34:20.279 --> 01:34:22.479
<v Speaker 4>that better if you can have some safe states, like

2244
01:34:22.520 --> 01:34:23.000
<v Speaker 4>you could.

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01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Say that's just on Nso so I played it on

2246
01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:28.520
<v Speaker 3>switch and yeah, yeah, it's just on NFL.

2247
01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:30.199
<v Speaker 1>If I'm bringing the switch though, I mean, I've got.

2248
01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Right because like Earthbound is surprisingly more of an relatively

2249
01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:40.239
<v Speaker 3>old school jeripey than you might expect, so that you're

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01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:42.199
<v Speaker 3>going to do some things like grinding, and you might

2251
01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:45.600
<v Speaker 3>have times where, oh I died to a random battle,

2252
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:47.720
<v Speaker 3>and do I really want to lose all that progress

2253
01:34:47.760 --> 01:34:49.319
<v Speaker 3>and go back to the safe thing, or do I

2254
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:51.720
<v Speaker 3>just want to rewind a little bit before that?

2255
01:34:52.600 --> 01:34:53.760
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of nice to have rewind.

2256
01:34:54.159 --> 01:34:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Just make sure that the emulator set up with rewind, which.

2257
01:34:56.680 --> 01:34:58.399
<v Speaker 3>You should not be against that to be clear. Yeah,

2258
01:34:58.399 --> 01:35:00.760
<v Speaker 3>that's why you want to do something that has rewind.

2259
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think the reason I could see

2260
01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:05.039
<v Speaker 2>myself going through this game instead of finally playing through

2261
01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Final Fantasy six or something is because, like I think

2262
01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:10.760
<v Speaker 2>it might not so much be the j RPG menu

2263
01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I always thought.

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01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the Fantasy stuff might be yeah.

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01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Different, that's your if that's your hang up. Even like

2266
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:20.199
<v Speaker 3>when I played through Earthbound just you know, a few

2267
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:24.479
<v Speaker 3>months ago, I still think it's whole suburban weirdness kind

2268
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.479
<v Speaker 3>of Twin Peaks thing is fantastic. The vibe and aesthetic

2269
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:32.000
<v Speaker 3>of that game is still really freaking good.

2270
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Mark, I love them so good, Marion, Luigi and paper

2271
01:35:35.680 --> 01:35:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Mari and stuff. I fucking love those, and those are

2272
01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:39.039
<v Speaker 2>just turn based arbudies. I know they have the like

2273
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:41.159
<v Speaker 2>timing stuff and everything, but like Free.

2274
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Has some time and stuff in it. That's what was

2275
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:44.199
<v Speaker 4>one of the things I like about it so much.

2276
01:35:44.279 --> 01:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I do need to I need to get

2277
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that from someone.

2278
01:35:47.920 --> 01:35:51.800
<v Speaker 3>I may I may have sought you a message archiving

2279
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:52.760
<v Speaker 3>site on the internet.

2280
01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh cool, that's smart. Okay, Yes, I should play that.

2281
01:35:55.439 --> 01:35:56.520
<v Speaker 2>And the translation is good.

2282
01:35:57.560 --> 01:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>People who love the fan translation say it's amazing.

2283
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:04.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, some early big emotional moments and the best

2284
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:06.760
<v Speaker 4>thing about Marther three is all like, remember it was

2285
01:36:06.760 --> 01:36:08.359
<v Speaker 4>gonna be like it was gonna be a sixty four.

2286
01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>GDA sixty four game.

2287
01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:12.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and all the images of it is a sixty

2288
01:36:12.199 --> 01:36:14.119
<v Speaker 4>four d D game where all these characters that had

2289
01:36:14.159 --> 01:36:16.479
<v Speaker 4>like looked really distinct, well, it's like they took those

2290
01:36:16.600 --> 01:36:18.479
<v Speaker 4>characters and just put them into the Game Boy Advance

2291
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:20.800
<v Speaker 4>and they made them Game Boy Advance distinct. So they

2292
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:23.399
<v Speaker 4>are all these really cool looking characters and they all

2293
01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:25.199
<v Speaker 4>like either like in the little village, and they're all

2294
01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:26.720
<v Speaker 4>kind of getting along and they all know each other.

2295
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:30.000
<v Speaker 4>But then something terrible happens and the characters are emoting

2296
01:36:30.079 --> 01:36:33.800
<v Speaker 4>and really affecting ways, and uh yeah, it's it's good stuff.

2297
01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Now Here, here's the big question.

2298
01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:37.560
<v Speaker 2>If I know I want to do one of these,

2299
01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:40.840
<v Speaker 2>at least on the plane, can I just go to

2300
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:42.159
<v Speaker 2>Mother three without knowing Earthbound?

2301
01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:45.880
<v Speaker 3>It's it is, it is a it is a sequel

2302
01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:48.760
<v Speaker 3>in some way. It's not a ton so I think

2303
01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:51.159
<v Speaker 3>you can. The one thing I think you're going to

2304
01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:53.680
<v Speaker 3>bristle against him earth Bound even bother me a bit

2305
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:58.520
<v Speaker 3>is the inventory management is kind of a nuisence. It's

2306
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:01.000
<v Speaker 3>it's the Dragon questyle where each character has their own

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01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:05.000
<v Speaker 3>inventory and it's a max inventory, and it's relatively small,

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01:37:05.479 --> 01:37:07.199
<v Speaker 3>and there's a system in the game you can call

2309
01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:09.520
<v Speaker 3>your sister and she'll come and pick up items for you.

2310
01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:12.560
<v Speaker 3>But it's a little bit annoying. I don't know if

2311
01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Mother three does the same thing, Jeff.

2312
01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:17.680
<v Speaker 4>Mother Three's got a limited inventory. But you're basically you

2313
01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:19.920
<v Speaker 4>solve that just by feeling good about using items all

2314
01:37:19.960 --> 01:37:20.199
<v Speaker 4>the time.

2315
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's very part of my problem.

2316
01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a really yeah, scene like Chris Redfield and

2317
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:28.479
<v Speaker 2>Reside Evil one and just be like the eight is

2318
01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:29.760
<v Speaker 2>not nearly enough with Jill.

2319
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:34.199
<v Speaker 3>I've still never beaten resnievl one with Chris. I'm always like, look,

2320
01:37:34.199 --> 01:37:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I think Jill's a better character and she's got way

2321
01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:37.760
<v Speaker 3>more inventory space.

2322
01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna play as her every time. I never

2323
01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:41.159
<v Speaker 1>plays Grace.

2324
01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:43.800
<v Speaker 3>No. Yeah, it's some part of me like, maybe I should.

2325
01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I want to play that remake again. That remake is

2326
01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:48.239
<v Speaker 3>still so freaking good for Resident Evil.

2327
01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh god, wellmake ther least favorite.

2328
01:37:57.119 --> 01:38:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, you know, like now that you're so blue, Prince Pote,

2329
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:03.319
<v Speaker 3>have you thought about checking out the mysterymake.

2330
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:07.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really realize they remade it, but I would not.

2331
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:11.119
<v Speaker 3>They remade that a bit ago, and then they remade Riven,

2332
01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:13.720
<v Speaker 3>the sequel to Miss Yet last year. People actually say

2333
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.239
<v Speaker 3>that remakes great? Yeah, people raved about that.

2334
01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh I have to do that on record Roulette.

2335
01:38:19.399 --> 01:38:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, I don't think I have that anymore. Okay,

2336
01:38:22.960 --> 01:38:24.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll just play it for myself.

2337
01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, we got our own Twitch channels whatever.

2338
01:38:27.119 --> 01:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll figure it out, I think.

2339
01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2340
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, then yes I will start at least one

2341
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:34.800
<v Speaker 2>of those like Earthbound or Mother three on the plane.

2342
01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Last question before we take a break for emails, here

2343
01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:41.199
<v Speaker 2>is speaking on this plane stuff fellas. I Uh, this

2344
01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>is a tough thing, and I want everyone to feel

2345
01:38:43.199 --> 01:38:46.439
<v Speaker 2>bad for me. But after going to the last twelve

2346
01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:52.760
<v Speaker 2>WrestleManias in person, I will not only not be attending

2347
01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:55.479
<v Speaker 2>this year's WrestleMania, but I will be on a plane

2348
01:38:56.079 --> 01:38:59.560
<v Speaker 2>during Night two, during Cody Roads versus John Cina. I

2349
01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:02.880
<v Speaker 2>will be home for Night one, but I'm leaving at

2350
01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:06.600
<v Speaker 2>ten am the next morning, and I'm also flying that

2351
01:39:06.760 --> 01:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>in a place that does not have Wi Fi, so

2352
01:39:08.720 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>that's not even possibility. So Mike, here, here's my two

2353
01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:13.439
<v Speaker 2>options here, and let me know what you think sounds

2354
01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:16.399
<v Speaker 2>better for me. I can either tell everyone I know

2355
01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:19.600
<v Speaker 2>not to text me for a week and hope that

2356
01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:21.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not spoiled, and I can download it to my

2357
01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Peacock Gap before the flight home, and that sounds like

2358
01:39:24.399 --> 01:39:26.760
<v Speaker 2>a sweet four or five hours on a plane is

2359
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:30.279
<v Speaker 2>watching WrestleMania for the first time. Or I am going

2360
01:39:30.319 --> 01:39:32.279
<v Speaker 2>to a thing in Japan where I will have friends

2361
01:39:32.359 --> 01:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>there that are also into wrestling. Jake Beep, where I

2362
01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.760
<v Speaker 2>said where I'm going, I guess, I guess that's not

2363
01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:39.680
<v Speaker 2>an embargo breaker.

2364
01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:42.800
<v Speaker 4>Now people go to Japan all the time, you're fine.

2365
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm going to Japan for fun.

2366
01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:48.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so all my several other friends are going to

2367
01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:50.560
<v Speaker 2>be there for fun also at the same time. And

2368
01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:54.079
<v Speaker 2>one of them, I was kind of dming, like, oh, yeah,

2369
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:55.159
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing about Mania? What do you know

2370
01:39:55.239 --> 01:39:56.760
<v Speaker 2>about Mania? You're gonna be on a flight during that too,

2371
01:39:56.800 --> 01:39:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and yeah yeah, and he said like, well, we got

2372
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>to do like a watch party at the hotel when

2373
01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:02.720
<v Speaker 2>we get there. And I was like, oh, that does

2374
01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:07.319
<v Speaker 2>sound like a really interesting fun ways like watching WrestleMania.

2375
01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:10.079
<v Speaker 4>Japanese foods and Japanese beer, sit down and watch WrestleMania.

2376
01:40:10.319 --> 01:40:11.720
<v Speaker 4>That sounds the hell of a night to me.

2377
01:40:12.359 --> 01:40:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, rather than just saving it just for the sake

2378
01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:15.800
<v Speaker 1>of like killing time on a plane.

2379
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:18.720
<v Speaker 4>And you can always save it on the other side. Yeah, yeah,

2380
01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:19.359
<v Speaker 4>here's what I think.

2381
01:40:19.439 --> 01:40:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I think that instead of this stupid pity party for yourself,

2382
01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:27.319
<v Speaker 3>you should think about me, who was kind of confident, like, oh, man,

2383
01:40:27.399 --> 01:40:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Dan's gone to every wrestleing forever, but it's gonna go

2384
01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:31.760
<v Speaker 3>to this one and I'll probably get to go with

2385
01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:35.439
<v Speaker 3>him this time. It's gonna be great. Oh he can't go.

2386
01:40:35.680 --> 01:40:37.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, you go to Japan.

2387
01:40:38.399 --> 01:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>That's really boring thing that I'm gonna hate.

2388
01:40:41.640 --> 01:40:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Mike, Yeah, very much.

2389
01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Fun. We had it all in.

2390
01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:48.760
<v Speaker 1>We went and we went to Summer Slam together.

2391
01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:52.239
<v Speaker 3>We wish at least go to a wrestling show this

2392
01:40:52.359 --> 01:40:53.720
<v Speaker 3>year together with the figures of the Gether.

2393
01:40:54.079 --> 01:40:56.720
<v Speaker 4>SummerSlam kicked the ass with us three Summer's so much

2394
01:40:56.760 --> 01:40:58.399
<v Speaker 4>for some stuff in the West again this year?

2395
01:40:58.439 --> 01:40:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Right, aren't they doing a big show?

2396
01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Was mrre sliam Is next year? Indianapolis got all this

2397
01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>ship this year?

2398
01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Where are they?

2399
01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Like, right, that's between us?

2400
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:09.399
<v Speaker 3>So right? That's that was the thing too. It's like

2401
01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:11.560
<v Speaker 3>this wrestle is not even that far. It's like right

2402
01:41:11.640 --> 01:41:14.680
<v Speaker 3>in between us. It's not even that far away far

2403
01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:19.239
<v Speaker 3>the veggest right. Yeah. Restaurant bad, that's my bad, My bad.

2404
01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:23.479
<v Speaker 3>Royal rumble was part of me was like, oh we

2405
01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:25.239
<v Speaker 3>should go, and then it was just kind of busy

2406
01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:26.039
<v Speaker 3>and ship.

2407
01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Got the Summer Slam and like Survivor sers or something.

2408
01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:32.199
<v Speaker 3>I also haven't been to Vegas and forever. I kind

2409
01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:33.239
<v Speaker 3>of want to go to Vegas again.

2410
01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:35.560
<v Speaker 4>And we'll come up with the excuse eventually.

2411
01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but yes, I would like to watch wrestling

2412
01:41:38.479 --> 01:41:40.159
<v Speaker 2>with you fellas again. But yeah, so maybe I should.

2413
01:41:40.239 --> 01:41:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm leaning towards washing it in Japan.

2414
01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:45.880
<v Speaker 4>I would That's what I would do. That would be

2415
01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:47.000
<v Speaker 4>that makes much.

2416
01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Get me get me a jacket from Riberta.

2417
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:55.880
<v Speaker 2>My hotel is an eight minute walk. I already have

2418
01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:58.479
<v Speaker 2>plans with somebodys to go to Roberta, so that's gonna

2419
01:41:58.479 --> 01:41:58.800
<v Speaker 2>be great.

2420
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:04.039
<v Speaker 3>We did that show with Samoa Joe and that was amazing. Yeah,

2421
01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:05.479
<v Speaker 3>and I kind of told my friends. I told my

2422
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>friends I was doing it, and they thought it was

2423
01:42:07.039 --> 01:42:09.000
<v Speaker 3>really neat. But I didn't end up like sending them

2424
01:42:09.039 --> 01:42:11.800
<v Speaker 3>the link because we did end up we ended up

2425
01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:14.479
<v Speaker 3>talking about my testicles a lot during it. I just

2426
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know how they were going to react to that, Like.

2427
01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Do they not listen to any of other stuff? Because

2428
01:42:19.720 --> 01:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>I feel like your balls come up plenty.

2429
01:42:21.399 --> 01:42:24.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, your balls are the main star on our shows.

2430
01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:26.520
<v Speaker 4>The one does listen to nineties Disney even though it's

2431
01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:28.319
<v Speaker 4>not that into it. But like a lot of my

2432
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:33.039
<v Speaker 4>high school friends and stuff were not very big into

2433
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:36.000
<v Speaker 4>video games, right, which is it's pretty weird. Like I

2434
01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:38.840
<v Speaker 4>always in my house was like, okay, I like video

2435
01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:41.039
<v Speaker 4>games way more than the other people I know in

2436
01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:41.520
<v Speaker 4>my life.

2437
01:42:41.560 --> 01:42:43.720
<v Speaker 3>Even though other people seem to like the games. Fine,

2438
01:42:43.800 --> 01:42:46.800
<v Speaker 3>yeah right, so no, like you know, they're they're very

2439
01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:48.760
<v Speaker 3>supportive of me and things like that, but they don't

2440
01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:51.680
<v Speaker 3>have any interest in listening to we talked about video games.

2441
01:42:51.800 --> 01:42:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Some of them do, but I most don't.

2442
01:42:53.920 --> 01:42:56.159
<v Speaker 2>That's so interesting to me that, like, more than anyone

2443
01:42:56.199 --> 01:42:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I know, you are the guy that, like I feel,

2444
01:42:58.079 --> 01:43:00.319
<v Speaker 2>has no shame whatsoever, and like you'll get up and

2445
01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:03.399
<v Speaker 2>bolt out karaoke in front of everyone you don't care,

2446
01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Like it's I look, it's genuinely quality. I think it's

2447
01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>fantastic about you. It's funny that Smoejoe talking about your

2448
01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>balls is the thing that causes you. The two things

2449
01:43:14.079 --> 01:43:17.479
<v Speaker 2>Mojoe talking about your testicles and uh songs from your

2450
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Jesus musicals.

2451
01:43:20.640 --> 01:43:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Part of it. Like like like the one friend especially

2452
01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:24.520
<v Speaker 3>and he is one of my closest friends. But he

2453
01:43:24.600 --> 01:43:27.600
<v Speaker 3>also I had a lot of friends in like the

2454
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:30.199
<v Speaker 3>advanced programs. They were like the smartest kids in the

2455
01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:32.800
<v Speaker 3>school and stuff like that. And his friend he teaches.

2456
01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Classics now university and like he also loves wrestling. Right,

2457
01:43:36.920 --> 01:43:40.119
<v Speaker 4>it's not he's like super hoity toity, but I know

2458
01:43:40.319 --> 01:43:43.680
<v Speaker 4>he would be like a little off put and like

2459
01:43:43.760 --> 01:43:45.399
<v Speaker 4>that it's some like weird way he would like make

2460
01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:47.000
<v Speaker 4>fun of me for it. But I also I don't

2461
01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:49.520
<v Speaker 4>want to have that conversation of him try making me

2462
01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:52.680
<v Speaker 4>explain to him why it was actually okay that Samoa

2463
01:43:52.800 --> 01:43:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Joe talked about my testicles.

2464
01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:58.399
<v Speaker 1>So funny that that actually just happened. Yeah, it's really

2465
01:43:58.399 --> 01:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>weird for me. I think it's a normal thing.

2466
01:43:59.640 --> 01:44:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Because it'll be in the history books.

2467
01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Think he just the kind of person like if

2468
01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:10.119
<v Speaker 3>I ever did meet him, he's gonna remember all of that.

2469
01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:13.520
<v Speaker 2>We're just gonna lead with the grape swallowing because he

2470
01:44:13.640 --> 01:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>definitely that made an impact on him.

2471
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, guy swallows grapes whole swallows.

2472
01:44:21.880 --> 01:44:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Look up boyemail dump truck with Samoa Joe. Fantastic fucking episode.

2473
01:44:26.920 --> 01:44:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Man, I've got to do some fun things thanks to

2474
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:31.239
<v Speaker 3>you two in recent years. I'll tell you what it's

2475
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:34.279
<v Speaker 3>been better. It's funny. I like I've been doing this

2476
01:44:34.399 --> 01:44:37.359
<v Speaker 3>for a while. If there's some reasons, uh, like over

2477
01:44:37.439 --> 01:44:38.880
<v Speaker 3>on the games beats and I had to kind of

2478
01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:41.000
<v Speaker 3>like look through some old stuff. It's like, gosh, I

2479
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.119
<v Speaker 3>can't believe I've been doing this for twelve years or

2480
01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:45.359
<v Speaker 3>more than that, because it's only like the last few

2481
01:44:45.479 --> 01:44:49.880
<v Speaker 3>years where it's been this real whirlwind roller coaster rid

2482
01:44:49.960 --> 01:44:54.399
<v Speaker 3>of just constantly doing weird, interesting things a podcast with

2483
01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Samoa Joe or oh my god, I'm in Germany and

2484
01:44:57.119 --> 01:45:01.159
<v Speaker 3>now we're all in and just weird, weird, fun stuff.

2485
01:45:01.239 --> 01:45:04.000
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting thinking about the stuff before. Yeah, because like

2486
01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I guess, I was working for free from oh five

2487
01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>until Game Informer hired me in O nine and I

2488
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>was going to E three but I'd like pay my

2489
01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:14.760
<v Speaker 2>own way out and all that shit, and like I

2490
01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:17.119
<v Speaker 2>wasn't getting paid directly. It was just so I had

2491
01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>like four years of just no big crazy stuff and

2492
01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:22.720
<v Speaker 2>then Game Informer went crazy.

2493
01:45:22.680 --> 01:45:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, because like you got yeah, you got a

2494
01:45:24.359 --> 01:45:26.720
<v Speaker 3>gay four roads early. Jeff and I were low key

2495
01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:29.520
<v Speaker 3>at games Beat for a long time there.

2496
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Grub was like I mean, I knew Grubb's name and

2497
01:45:33.239 --> 01:45:36.359
<v Speaker 2>everything for so many years before, like we've talked about forwards,

2498
01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Like the first time I ever saw you in person

2499
01:45:38.239 --> 01:45:40.399
<v Speaker 2>was your on stage at that Greg Miller competition thing

2500
01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:44.960
<v Speaker 2>and me Mike and Mary, yeah, before fire Escape existed, Me,

2501
01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Mike and Mary were brutally hungover.

2502
01:45:47.199 --> 01:45:50.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we came up and we sunglasses on and

2503
01:45:50.680 --> 01:45:54.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm like olasses because we were fucking unbelievably fucked up.

2504
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:57.079
<v Speaker 1>And then yeah, I remember seeing you there.

2505
01:45:57.079 --> 01:45:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I remember just giving me a pat on the back

2506
01:45:58.239 --> 01:45:59.439
<v Speaker 2>because I was the first time I'd ever seen you

2507
01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:01.439
<v Speaker 2>in person. I had hair at the time, I remember,

2508
01:46:02.359 --> 01:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>And we didn't. I don't think I saw you afterwards

2509
01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:06.119
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, because I think we got knocked out. Then

2510
01:46:06.159 --> 01:46:07.680
<v Speaker 2>we just went passed out of the hotel or something,

2511
01:46:08.600 --> 01:46:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and then it was years after that that we started

2512
01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>working together. But like, yeah, I feel like we were

2513
01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:15.279
<v Speaker 2>following each other back in the probably like early twenty

2514
01:46:15.359 --> 01:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>tens or something. You were tea Chicken dinners.

2515
01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:20.399
<v Speaker 4>And exactly just kind of talking on on Twitter and

2516
01:46:20.439 --> 01:46:20.880
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that.

2517
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:23.239
<v Speaker 3>For sure. Yeah. But the weird thing with me was

2518
01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:26.439
<v Speaker 3>that I never used to watch Giant Bomb. Actually Jeff

2519
01:46:26.600 --> 01:46:29.520
<v Speaker 3>was the one who liked it. It was Jeff was

2520
01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:32.359
<v Speaker 3>the one who was following it up and was excited.

2521
01:46:32.039 --> 01:46:34.000
<v Speaker 4>To then Yeah, I needed it was like one up

2522
01:46:34.039 --> 01:46:35.920
<v Speaker 4>yours and then I needed something after one Up went away.

2523
01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:38.159
<v Speaker 4>So my Giant Bomb's pretty good. I'll go for that now.

2524
01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's kind of how it went.

2525
01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:40.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad.

2526
01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:43.039
<v Speaker 3>The first time I met Dan in person was in Disneyland.

2527
01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:45.439
<v Speaker 2>I was telling them, that's right about the first time.

2528
01:46:45.520 --> 01:46:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Not only was it a Disneyland, but our first in

2529
01:46:47.760 --> 01:46:50.159
<v Speaker 2>person interaction was you giving me a stone cold stunner

2530
01:46:50.199 --> 01:46:55.039
<v Speaker 2>at Disney Yeah. Of course it's on video too. It was.

2531
01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Right, There was no there.

2532
01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever immediately hit it off in

2533
01:47:01.760 --> 01:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>terms of just joking around and like on and off content,

2534
01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Like it's like YouTube and like Tim Turry, yeah, Mike

2535
01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:12.199
<v Speaker 2>and Marry and like just rush more people that I'm like, Okay,

2536
01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I just want to make videos of these people forever.

2537
01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:16.520
<v Speaker 3>This is the first thing we ever did was the

2538
01:47:16.960 --> 01:47:19.399
<v Speaker 3>you did that video game Jeopardy thing over on our

2539
01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:21.920
<v Speaker 3>our Patriot, right Jeff and ized and yeah, that you

2540
01:47:22.000 --> 01:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>were on there, and it was the first time. That

2541
01:47:24.079 --> 01:47:25.960
<v Speaker 3>was when you The gimmick was you kept calling me

2542
01:47:26.039 --> 01:47:28.640
<v Speaker 3>every name but Mike. You pretended you were hot shotting me,

2543
01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:29.560
<v Speaker 3>and Mitch was.

2544
01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:32.119
<v Speaker 4>The one you really liked for some reason, and everyone

2545
01:47:32.199 --> 01:47:34.800
<v Speaker 4>calls me Mitch, and I love it, and I've always

2546
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:35.199
<v Speaker 4>loved it.

2547
01:47:37.039 --> 01:47:38.199
<v Speaker 1>People finally stopped like that.

2548
01:47:39.680 --> 01:47:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I want to be like, do you guys understand, Like

2549
01:47:42.479 --> 01:47:45.359
<v Speaker 3>the literal dollars he has put in my pocket because

2550
01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of this? Do you understand for me?

2551
01:47:50.720 --> 01:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>The crow hey brother got an idea.

2552
01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Exactly like that? Got so over. That was such a

2553
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:03.800
<v Speaker 3>what a gift you calling me Mitch? My god?

2554
01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:04.800
<v Speaker 1>It was okay.

2555
01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Plus, it's just more things that I could potentially rhyme.

2556
01:48:07.720 --> 01:48:10.880
<v Speaker 3>It's the stupid puns now, because Mic doesn't work, If

2557
01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Tocado doesn't work, I have Mitch.

2558
01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Now. Have you got content ideas based around the Mitch name?

2559
01:48:17.359 --> 01:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so good.

2560
01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all the things, surprisingly large amount of things rhyme

2561
01:48:21.119 --> 01:48:22.479
<v Speaker 3>with Mitch, not just bitch.

2562
01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Wow, you aren't something new every day?

2563
01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>It's fantastic.

2564
01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:27.560
<v Speaker 3>All right?

2565
01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, uh, I guess uh that's it for the games

2566
01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:35.039
<v Speaker 2>this week? Should we Should we answer some emails?

2567
01:48:35.560 --> 01:48:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Sure, they're mostly drests the Mary and Mike.

2568
01:48:39.279 --> 01:48:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, several of them are.

2569
01:48:41.479 --> 01:48:44.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm a Mic. I can answer those. I trik

2570
01:48:44.199 --> 01:48:44.680
<v Speaker 3>wine once.

2571
01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:51.439
<v Speaker 1>All right, got a handful of emails here. Uh.

2572
01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Some of these might have had Mike or Mary in mind,

2573
01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:56.560
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I got two fellows here that can

2574
01:48:56.600 --> 01:48:59.399
<v Speaker 2>play the roles if needed. So who wants to call

2575
01:48:59.439 --> 01:49:02.319
<v Speaker 2>DIBs on? I guess Mike Mike, and I'm Mary, okay,

2576
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:04.159
<v Speaker 2>and we got married there? Okay, great, all right? They

2577
01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:07.960
<v Speaker 2>call it grubbing it all right, Here we go. First

2578
01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:12.479
<v Speaker 2>one from Phil in Finland. Howdy partners. Since getting access

2579
01:49:12.560 --> 01:49:15.840
<v Speaker 2>to the deadlocks ki Wo early development build, I put

2580
01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:18.239
<v Speaker 2>in almost five hundred hours in a game that's not

2581
01:49:18.439 --> 01:49:20.800
<v Speaker 2>officially announced yet, and if I didn't have a dog

2582
01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:23.279
<v Speaker 2>and a girlfriend, that amount would probably be triple. This

2583
01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>will most likely be the game I spend the next

2584
01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:28.800
<v Speaker 2>ten years with. Before Deadlock, I probably had thousands of

2585
01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:30.920
<v Speaker 2>hours in Overwatch, and during my last few years of

2586
01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:32.680
<v Speaker 2>that game, I could feel it draining the life out

2587
01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:34.760
<v Speaker 2>of me, but didn't stop playing it. Since these days,

2588
01:49:34.800 --> 01:49:37.079
<v Speaker 2>most Triple A games do nothing for me, and maybe

2589
01:49:37.119 --> 01:49:39.479
<v Speaker 2>one or two indies catch my attention every year. I

2590
01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:42.640
<v Speaker 2>love the depth, complexity, and sense of improvement and competitive games.

2591
01:49:42.680 --> 01:49:45.079
<v Speaker 2>And while I haven't neglected my non existent kids because

2592
01:49:45.079 --> 01:49:47.439
<v Speaker 2>of a Wow raid or put my mortgage into loot boxes,

2593
01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I've definitely turned down personal growth in other areas.

2594
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm four games. I'm mediocre at I know Mike that

2595
01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to you.

2596
01:49:54.680 --> 01:49:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Mike has put an embarrassing amount into Warframe, But do

2597
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.159
<v Speaker 2>any of you have first hand experience, or people in

2598
01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:03.399
<v Speaker 2>your life that have been way too into a game

2599
01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:05.159
<v Speaker 2>that it became a problem take care of.

2600
01:50:05.199 --> 01:50:06.079
<v Speaker 1>It's still from Finland.

2601
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:09.439
<v Speaker 3>It's I was actually just thinking about this because I

2602
01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:12.479
<v Speaker 3>a size from Warframe used to play a lot of

2603
01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:15.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of these forever live service games. I played a

2604
01:50:15.920 --> 01:50:17.880
<v Speaker 3>ton of World of Workout in my life. It's it's

2605
01:50:17.920 --> 01:50:20.159
<v Speaker 3>not something that's come up a ton recently. I was

2606
01:50:20.600 --> 01:50:23.079
<v Speaker 3>until pretty recently, I was doing a ton of Final

2607
01:50:23.159 --> 01:50:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Fantasy fourteen. I did play a lot of Overwatch too

2608
01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:29.279
<v Speaker 3>when I was younger, tons of Team Fortress Classic and

2609
01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>early Counterstrike, lots of Heartstone, and that was the thing.

2610
01:50:33.199 --> 01:50:35.359
<v Speaker 3>So I used to do these a lot. It's only

2611
01:50:35.439 --> 01:50:38.479
<v Speaker 3>pretty recently that I've actually kind of backed off.

2612
01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:39.439
<v Speaker 1>That a little bit.

2613
01:50:39.479 --> 01:50:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I think part is because I'm doing so much more

2614
01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:45.039
<v Speaker 3>retro gaming now too. I'm streaming exactly and a lot

2615
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:47.840
<v Speaker 3>of those games. If you're like not a specialist in

2616
01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:50.560
<v Speaker 3>those kind of games, oh nobody wants to watch you

2617
01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:53.520
<v Speaker 3>stream an MMO actually, and I kind of get it.

2618
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:56.319
<v Speaker 3>I kind of get it. So yeah, I'm not doing

2619
01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:58.319
<v Speaker 3>as much of those, but I don't know. In our

2620
01:50:58.359 --> 01:51:01.279
<v Speaker 3>folly problem, I did have a friend who was really

2621
01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:04.600
<v Speaker 3>deep into world of warcraft, but he like he played

2622
01:51:04.760 --> 01:51:06.680
<v Speaker 3>up so much about that it was a problem. But

2623
01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:10.000
<v Speaker 3>he also found ways to kind of make it interesting.

2624
01:51:10.119 --> 01:51:12.439
<v Speaker 3>Like he made friends there that are still his friends.

2625
01:51:12.520 --> 01:51:15.359
<v Speaker 3>There are people that I know of pretty well now

2626
01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:17.359
<v Speaker 3>and like stall at his wedding, and these are people

2627
01:51:17.399 --> 01:51:19.399
<v Speaker 3>he played with in Vanilla Days and he got married

2628
01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:22.880
<v Speaker 3>a few years ago, right, and he would make like

2629
01:51:23.079 --> 01:51:25.319
<v Speaker 3>videos in there and whatnot. So I don't know, like

2630
01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:29.239
<v Speaker 3>when is it a problem. Right, It's not just the

2631
01:51:29.319 --> 01:51:31.520
<v Speaker 3>amount of hours that makes it a problem. It's how

2632
01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:33.359
<v Speaker 3>you sort of interact with the world around you. It's

2633
01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:36.079
<v Speaker 3>about if you're shutting other people off, if you're a

2634
01:51:36.119 --> 01:51:37.960
<v Speaker 3>probably I'll tell you if you're like doing like some

2635
01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:40.800
<v Speaker 3>of these hardcore things in these games like rating, and

2636
01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:43.319
<v Speaker 3>it's like, well, that is my obligation for the week,

2637
01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:46.359
<v Speaker 3>not seeing friends or things like that. That's when it

2638
01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>became a little refer me was the idea that even

2639
01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:53.279
<v Speaker 3>casual rating is two nights a week, nights a week.

2640
01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:56.520
<v Speaker 3>That's not that I was like, that's time I could

2641
01:51:56.600 --> 01:51:59.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe go out and see people or even stream and

2642
01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:02.399
<v Speaker 3>like try to like make money off of that or

2643
01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:06.600
<v Speaker 3>just do anything else maybe, but generally I think you're

2644
01:52:06.640 --> 01:52:07.319
<v Speaker 3>probably fine.

2645
01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:09.720
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting because like when I first was hearing that you,

2646
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:12.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, you would bring up Final Fantasy fourteen and

2647
01:52:12.239 --> 01:52:14.520
<v Speaker 2>wow and stuff like that. And I feel like most

2648
01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:18.039
<v Speaker 2>of the time when I know friends that well, I've said,

2649
01:52:18.039 --> 01:52:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyone that plays Final Fantasy fourteen, but

2650
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:23.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, like they don't do anything but that they

2651
01:52:23.479 --> 01:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>don't play other games, they don't right social things or whatever.

2652
01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:29.199
<v Speaker 2>And like you did always strike me as someone that like, oh,

2653
01:52:29.239 --> 01:52:30.720
<v Speaker 2>you play these games, and do you play enough of

2654
01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:32.920
<v Speaker 2>them to like, you know, you really get a good

2655
01:52:32.960 --> 01:52:36.279
<v Speaker 2>time out of it, but you still obviously are you're

2656
01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:38.520
<v Speaker 2>playing other stuff, You're doing things, you go out.

2657
01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:40.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's very important for me to like be

2658
01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:44.239
<v Speaker 3>well versed in a lot of games. Like I still

2659
01:52:44.279 --> 01:52:46.600
<v Speaker 3>feel bad sometimes like there's there's kind of a brand

2660
01:52:46.640 --> 01:52:48.359
<v Speaker 3>a Triple A game that I'm not playing as much

2661
01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:50.880
<v Speaker 3>of because I really am not as interested I used

2662
01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:52.079
<v Speaker 3>to be, and I feel like I kind of to

2663
01:52:52.159 --> 01:52:54.880
<v Speaker 3>force myself, like I didn't touch Assassin's Creed Shadows, and

2664
01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, god of my career, I should probably at

2665
01:52:57.600 --> 01:53:00.640
<v Speaker 3>least try Assassin's Creed Shadows Mike, I don't want to,

2666
01:53:01.239 --> 01:53:04.039
<v Speaker 3>but at least like the Blizzard stuff day before I

2667
01:53:04.159 --> 01:53:08.159
<v Speaker 3>met you, that was almost my beat exclusively in some ways.

2668
01:53:08.239 --> 01:53:10.960
<v Speaker 3>I covered a ton of Blizzard, like Jeff knows when

2669
01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:12.560
<v Speaker 3>I was working on them. I was going to the blizzcons,

2670
01:53:12.600 --> 01:53:14.439
<v Speaker 3>I was going to a lot of the events. I

2671
01:53:14.600 --> 01:53:17.399
<v Speaker 3>was revealing Heartstone cards like that, and it was like

2672
01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:19.880
<v Speaker 3>they were so popular at that time, between World of

2673
01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:22.159
<v Speaker 3>Warcraft and Herstone.

2674
01:53:22.079 --> 01:53:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And over Watch.

2675
01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:26.119
<v Speaker 3>That like that was my job almost covering Blizzard, and

2676
01:53:26.199 --> 01:53:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I kind of loved it for a bit. But that

2677
01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:30.920
<v Speaker 3>was a sort of unique time and place for.

2678
01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.199
<v Speaker 1>That sort of thing, like sites dedicated to it.

2679
01:53:33.359 --> 01:53:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right exactly. And the thing is like those sites

2680
01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.640
<v Speaker 3>were always going to do better anyways, but it made

2681
01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:42.119
<v Speaker 3>some sense for us to do it. But even I

2682
01:53:42.159 --> 01:53:44.800
<v Speaker 3>from facy fourteen, as popular as it is, like, I'm like,

2683
01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:47.680
<v Speaker 3>how much coverage can I really get out of that anymore?

2684
01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:50.119
<v Speaker 3>These days? A bit when an expansion comes out, but

2685
01:53:50.239 --> 01:53:51.239
<v Speaker 3>otherwise not a ton.

2686
01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think there's a you know the guys who

2687
01:53:56.279 --> 01:53:58.680
<v Speaker 4>do watch football all day on Sunday and they go

2688
01:53:58.960 --> 01:54:00.920
<v Speaker 4>and do it by themselves in their basement like that,

2689
01:54:01.199 --> 01:54:03.159
<v Speaker 4>that seems unhealthy to me. I don't think that's the

2690
01:54:03.199 --> 01:54:04.600
<v Speaker 4>best way to do that, and I think if you're

2691
01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:08.359
<v Speaker 4>doing the equivalent for any game, it's probably unhealthy. But

2692
01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:11.239
<v Speaker 4>if you balance it out, you do find time for

2693
01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:14.720
<v Speaker 4>other people, if you are engaged in other hobbies, or

2694
01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:17.520
<v Speaker 4>if you make the thing you're doing social and like

2695
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:19.960
<v Speaker 4>include the people who are like your partners in life

2696
01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:22.520
<v Speaker 4>and make it intimate in some ways, then you're good.

2697
01:54:22.840 --> 01:54:23.840
<v Speaker 3>You're you're solid.

2698
01:54:23.920 --> 01:54:28.039
<v Speaker 4>Like I've had the you know, I put a thousand,

2699
01:54:28.119 --> 01:54:30.760
<v Speaker 4>one thousand hours in like every call of duty, like

2700
01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:33.800
<v Speaker 4>from Modern Warfare on for quite some time. The you know,

2701
01:54:33.920 --> 01:54:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Modern Warfare was like I think two or two and

2702
01:54:36.680 --> 01:54:39.520
<v Speaker 4>a half thousand hours, something like that, Titan Fall, a

2703
01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:42.640
<v Speaker 4>thousand hours, all these games where it's like that's what

2704
01:54:42.720 --> 01:54:44.199
<v Speaker 4>I was playing. I was playing some other stuff, but

2705
01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:45.600
<v Speaker 4>I was just every night was playing that with my

2706
01:54:45.640 --> 01:54:50.239
<v Speaker 4>brothers or whatever. And Modern Warfare there was definitely like, oh,

2707
01:54:50.399 --> 01:54:52.600
<v Speaker 4>this feels like a little bit of a crisis situation

2708
01:54:52.720 --> 01:54:55.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm in now. I got to like pull myself, you know,

2709
01:54:55.600 --> 01:54:56.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm in a little bit of a nose. I've just

2710
01:54:56.880 --> 01:54:58.479
<v Speaker 4>got to pull myself up a little bit, look around,

2711
01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:00.359
<v Speaker 4>figure out what I'm doing, and that's what I'm well,

2712
01:55:00.439 --> 01:55:02.399
<v Speaker 4>I am enjoying this. I'll look around kind figure out

2713
01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:05.079
<v Speaker 4>if I can make this games thing work and kind

2714
01:55:05.119 --> 01:55:07.760
<v Speaker 4>of made it into something productive. You got to have

2715
01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:11.520
<v Speaker 4>some recognition about making sure you're not diving down into

2716
01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:12.800
<v Speaker 4>and becoming anti social.

2717
01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:15.159
<v Speaker 3>I almost find it more satisfying to be like, Okay,

2718
01:55:15.159 --> 01:55:17.840
<v Speaker 3>instead of just playing this one kind of life service

2719
01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:21.000
<v Speaker 3>game for one hundred hours, let's do a series playthrough

2720
01:55:21.079 --> 01:55:24.199
<v Speaker 3>of some random franchise, right like back in when I

2721
01:55:24.279 --> 01:55:26.119
<v Speaker 3>was in college, that's really when I fell in love

2722
01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:28.159
<v Speaker 3>with Found Fantasy. I was like, I'm going to play

2723
01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:30.319
<v Speaker 3>through foun Fantasy one through ten. Let's just do that,

2724
01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:32.920
<v Speaker 3>And I was absolutely love that. I think you see

2725
01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:34.680
<v Speaker 3>more people doing things like that, like I'm going to

2726
01:55:34.720 --> 01:55:36.279
<v Speaker 3>play through all the Resident Evils and I'm going to

2727
01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:38.840
<v Speaker 3>play through all the Legend of Zelda's. You know, there's

2728
01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:41.720
<v Speaker 3>so many franchises like that stuff Like I still want

2729
01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:43.359
<v Speaker 3>to do yah because I never really played those games.

2730
01:55:43.359 --> 01:55:44.640
<v Speaker 3>So at some point I'm just going to play through

2731
01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:47.640
<v Speaker 3>that series, and in some way that seems more enriching

2732
01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:50.000
<v Speaker 3>to me. I'm going to gain all this experience and

2733
01:55:50.159 --> 01:55:54.159
<v Speaker 3>knowledge about this. Really unique and clever series. I think

2734
01:55:54.199 --> 01:55:54.680
<v Speaker 3>that's better.

2735
01:55:55.279 --> 01:55:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because yeah, I always pride myself on

2736
01:55:58.039 --> 01:56:00.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of playing everything, and I usually say, like everything

2737
01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:02.359
<v Speaker 2>except for like not a big RPG or sports game guy.

2738
01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But then like if you're meeting someone who's maybe from

2739
01:56:05.039 --> 01:56:07.560
<v Speaker 2>outside games, yeah, what kind of games you play?

2740
01:56:07.600 --> 01:56:09.239
<v Speaker 1>And I usually yeah, I play pretty much everything.

2741
01:56:09.279 --> 01:56:11.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, I'm obsessed with you must play you

2742
01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:15.359
<v Speaker 2>must know everything about Escape from Tarkov and like, uh,

2743
01:56:17.880 --> 01:56:20.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like like they'll name like Valorant or Escape from

2744
01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:23.279
<v Speaker 2>TARKOVS or like a Hunt Showdown, these games that are

2745
01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:24.680
<v Speaker 2>like objectively huge.

2746
01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:27.479
<v Speaker 1>But it's so weird that like not as much in like.

2747
01:56:27.640 --> 01:56:31.199
<v Speaker 3>Our circles, right well, it's it is really weird like

2748
01:56:31.520 --> 01:56:35.479
<v Speaker 3>where we exist where like you know, granted Auto six

2749
01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:37.039
<v Speaker 3>is gonna happen LA this year and we're going to

2750
01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:39.920
<v Speaker 3>talk about it and whatnot, but the proportion that we

2751
01:56:40.079 --> 01:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>talk about it isn't going to equal the proportion of

2752
01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:47.520
<v Speaker 3>how much it sells and how much. Like it was

2753
01:56:47.560 --> 01:56:49.880
<v Speaker 3>a democracy, and it's just like people voted for a

2754
01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:53.159
<v Speaker 3>game they're playing right now, right be boring if we

2755
01:56:53.199 --> 01:56:55.560
<v Speaker 3>did nothing but talk about that forever like we talked

2756
01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:58.359
<v Speaker 3>about blue Prints for two weeks and felt bad talking

2757
01:56:58.399 --> 01:56:59.600
<v Speaker 3>about it anymore today.

2758
01:57:00.359 --> 01:57:02.880
<v Speaker 2>It's funny when I was back saying dynamite for the

2759
01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:05.439
<v Speaker 2>Smoe Joe thing. Oh, we went to the bar afterwards,

2760
01:57:05.520 --> 01:57:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, I'm meeting a bunch of these

2761
01:57:06.840 --> 01:57:08.439
<v Speaker 2>guys for the first time, and like you know, like

2762
01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:10.319
<v Speaker 2>h no knows me and EXCaliber and stuff, but like

2763
01:57:10.439 --> 01:57:12.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, like Trent Burretta and stuff, and it's like

2764
01:57:12.079 --> 01:57:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know he was a big gamer, and so

2765
01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:15.239
<v Speaker 2>like all these guys are asking what are you playing

2766
01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:15.479
<v Speaker 2>right now?

2767
01:57:15.479 --> 01:57:15.920
<v Speaker 3>What are you playing?

2768
01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:21.199
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, you're heard of blue Prince who

2769
01:57:21.279 --> 01:57:23.319
<v Speaker 2>loves blue Prints now, like nobody had heard of it.

2770
01:57:23.359 --> 01:57:25.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like I act like this big gamer. And

2771
01:57:25.399 --> 01:57:27.279
<v Speaker 2>then like I mentioned this thing, is like what the

2772
01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:27.720
<v Speaker 2>fuck is that?

2773
01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:31.520
<v Speaker 3>My one friend teases me still because somebody we were

2774
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:34.119
<v Speaker 3>out somewhere and he told somebody what I did, and

2775
01:57:34.239 --> 01:57:36.079
<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh, well, you're playing right now, and I'm like,

2776
01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm playing Shima got me ten Side Person of five.

2777
01:57:39.760 --> 01:57:43.359
<v Speaker 3>This guy just looked at me like I play Candy Crush.

2778
01:57:45.399 --> 01:57:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I'll never forget get into that physical therapist and uh

2779
01:57:48.039 --> 01:57:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in New York.

2780
01:57:48.640 --> 01:57:50.920
<v Speaker 2>That was like bending my leg up and like trying

2781
01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:52.880
<v Speaker 2>to make small talk and ask him what I do

2782
01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:54.399
<v Speaker 2>and he's like it's a real talk.

2783
01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>What's what's better Halo or Mario.

2784
01:57:58.840 --> 01:57:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Man?

2785
01:58:00.279 --> 01:58:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, It's like we are so many degrees removed from that,

2786
01:58:05.039 --> 01:58:08.000
<v Speaker 4>but it does feel like does he have the earpieces?

2787
01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:10.239
<v Speaker 4>He being fed by chat GPT, Like what is a

2788
01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:11.239
<v Speaker 4>practical jokers?

2789
01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>What is this?

2790
01:58:11.800 --> 01:58:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah to the guy's question that he was asking about,

2791
01:58:16.039 --> 01:58:17.399
<v Speaker 2>like you know, getting way too into stuff. I do

2792
01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:19.840
<v Speaker 2>remember and like I don't. Maybe this was part of

2793
01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:22.239
<v Speaker 2>why I never wanted to get into MMOs or anything.

2794
01:58:22.479 --> 01:58:24.399
<v Speaker 2>But I had one of my best friends through junior

2795
01:58:24.479 --> 01:58:26.560
<v Speaker 2>high and high school. We were in all these classes together,

2796
01:58:26.560 --> 01:58:28.840
<v Speaker 2>talked about video games all the time. He was he

2797
01:58:28.920 --> 01:58:30.640
<v Speaker 2>was awesome. So like we're in the gifted program together.

2798
01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:33.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like super smart guy. He was in med school

2799
01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:36.560
<v Speaker 2>in college. Yeah, this awesome girlfriend. He was on the

2800
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:38.800
<v Speaker 2>football team. He was just like in it seems like

2801
01:58:38.920 --> 01:58:40.239
<v Speaker 2>he's the guy you look at. It's like this guy

2802
01:58:40.359 --> 01:58:42.119
<v Speaker 2>just has all of his shit together, super smart, He's

2803
01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:42.760
<v Speaker 2>going to be a doctor.

2804
01:58:42.880 --> 01:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Everything's fucking out. Like love this guy. Uh, And then

2805
01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:47.159
<v Speaker 1>like he got into Wow.

2806
01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Because remember I went to college in two so you know,

2807
01:58:50.319 --> 01:58:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you can image a couple of years into college, Wow

2808
01:58:52.720 --> 01:58:56.079
<v Speaker 2>blows up and he went from playing everything. We played

2809
01:58:56.159 --> 01:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>everything that came out together. He was a big and

2810
01:58:58.039 --> 01:59:00.560
<v Speaker 2>sixty four guy coming up and then and all he

2811
01:59:00.680 --> 01:59:02.000
<v Speaker 2>played like we used to go out and stuff all

2812
01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:04.039
<v Speaker 2>the time. And all of a sudden, no, we're not

2813
01:59:04.119 --> 01:59:06.199
<v Speaker 2>going out anymore. Oh we're not oh new games, the

2814
01:59:06.279 --> 01:59:08.079
<v Speaker 2>multiplayer games coming out, We're not meeting up to play

2815
01:59:08.119 --> 01:59:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Lego Star Wars together anymore. Oh, we're not doing this

2816
01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:13.439
<v Speaker 2>stuff together. And his girlfriend dumped him. He like, I

2817
01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he flunked out of school or quit

2818
01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:17.000
<v Speaker 2>or what the deal was, but he just like withdrew

2819
01:59:17.119 --> 01:59:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and withdrew and Withdrew and like he had everything in

2820
01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:23.039
<v Speaker 2>his corner. And I'm sure it can't just be like

2821
01:59:23.079 --> 01:59:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow came along, And I'm sure there had to be

2822
01:59:24.840 --> 01:59:27.039
<v Speaker 2>other factors maybe people weren't aware of, but like, to me,

2823
01:59:27.159 --> 01:59:29.439
<v Speaker 2>it's like that was the dividing line. Was he got

2824
01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:31.359
<v Speaker 2>really into Wow, and then it's like, oh, kind of

2825
01:59:31.439 --> 01:59:33.720
<v Speaker 2>just like all of us, all of his friends were

2826
01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:35.439
<v Speaker 2>just like, man, yeah, he used to come out and

2827
01:59:35.560 --> 01:59:37.800
<v Speaker 2>then Wow, happened, you know, so like there was the

2828
01:59:37.880 --> 01:59:39.560
<v Speaker 2>cheap factor, like I don't want to pay every month.

2829
01:59:39.680 --> 01:59:41.159
<v Speaker 2>There is the fact that like I don't want to

2830
01:59:41.199 --> 01:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>go all in on just one game. I want to

2831
01:59:42.800 --> 01:59:43.640
<v Speaker 2>play everything, you know.

2832
01:59:44.760 --> 01:59:46.359
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I had another friend at that time.

2833
01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:50.159
<v Speaker 3>It was kind of a similar thing where he was

2834
01:59:50.880 --> 01:59:53.800
<v Speaker 3>he was playing so much Wow and keeping really weird hours,

2835
01:59:53.840 --> 01:59:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Like you'd go over there at like three pm and

2836
01:59:55.800 --> 02:00:00.319
<v Speaker 3>he'd be sleeping and stuff like that. No, I talk

2837
02:00:00.359 --> 02:00:02.079
<v Speaker 3>about like a body like an audio. At what point

2838
02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:04.840
<v Speaker 3>his parents took away the mouse to try to keep

2839
02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:06.319
<v Speaker 3>him for playing, so he learned how to play World

2840
02:00:06.319 --> 02:00:11.479
<v Speaker 3>Wars with just the keyboard. It was getting real weird.

2841
02:00:11.600 --> 02:00:13.079
<v Speaker 3>It's becoming it was.

2842
02:00:14.119 --> 02:00:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Like haha, good luck, sucker.

2843
02:00:16.840 --> 02:00:19.000
<v Speaker 3>At what point, like like what for it was over

2844
02:00:19.079 --> 02:00:22.960
<v Speaker 3>there because like the college Invester started and like this

2845
02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:25.319
<v Speaker 3>kid's bomb was like, oh are you ready for for

2846
02:00:25.479 --> 02:00:27.359
<v Speaker 3>college to start next week? And he's like, what are

2847
02:00:27.399 --> 02:00:30.239
<v Speaker 3>you talking about? I've been going to classes. Because he

2848
02:00:30.439 --> 02:00:32.640
<v Speaker 3>just lied to her. It's like like, oh, yeah, I'm

2849
02:00:32.680 --> 02:00:36.760
<v Speaker 3>going to college whatever. He's just playing World of Wark. Uh.

2850
02:00:37.199 --> 02:00:39.640
<v Speaker 3>He ended up, he turned out, Okay, he's fine out,

2851
02:00:39.760 --> 02:00:41.399
<v Speaker 3>he got married, he just had a kid a little

2852
02:00:41.439 --> 02:00:42.920
<v Speaker 3>bit ago. He recovered.

2853
02:00:43.159 --> 02:00:45.239
<v Speaker 4>I think there's a lot of people who had a

2854
02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:49.079
<v Speaker 4>really rough like two thousand and five more.

2855
02:00:48.960 --> 02:00:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Recently, Like I mean, that is why I'm terribly wary

2856
02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:54.640
<v Speaker 2>of stuff like mobia stuff or like E sports type stuff,

2857
02:00:54.680 --> 02:00:57.840
<v Speaker 2>or I'll never shi Brad Shoemaker tell me Doda, like, oh,

2858
02:00:58.119 --> 02:00:59.720
<v Speaker 2>the first you know thousand hours, you're not gonna have

2859
02:00:59.720 --> 02:01:00.520
<v Speaker 2>any other what you're doing.

2860
02:01:00.560 --> 02:01:03.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what the fuck are you men talking about?

2861
02:01:03.800 --> 02:01:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Like that's insane.

2862
02:01:05.840 --> 02:01:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I consider myself like somewhere down like I play a

2863
02:01:08.760 --> 02:01:10.119
<v Speaker 3>lot of video games, and I played a lot of

2864
02:01:10.119 --> 02:01:13.600
<v Speaker 3>this live service stuff. I played some pretty hardcore things.

2865
02:01:14.159 --> 02:01:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I played Dota two for a couple of matches, and

2866
02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I was like, fuck this, Like it's like immediately like

2867
02:01:23.640 --> 02:01:27.560
<v Speaker 3>the toxicity and like the fifteen subsystems you had to

2868
02:01:27.640 --> 02:01:30.800
<v Speaker 3>try to learn, and it was like forty five minute

2869
02:01:30.840 --> 02:01:33.439
<v Speaker 3>long matches where after two minutes you know you're gonna lose,

2870
02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:37.119
<v Speaker 3>but you can't leave. It's it's that is one of

2871
02:01:37.119 --> 02:01:39.319
<v Speaker 3>the things, like, Okay, I get that there's an audience

2872
02:01:39.359 --> 02:01:42.399
<v Speaker 3>for this. I can't believe it's that big an audience

2873
02:01:42.640 --> 02:01:43.439
<v Speaker 3>for this thing.

2874
02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:46.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh jeez, it's a lot.

2875
02:01:46.680 --> 02:01:48.279
<v Speaker 2>The game I probably played the most is Soul Calverer

2876
02:01:48.319 --> 02:01:50.359
<v Speaker 2>one on Dreamcast, and that was like five hundred hours.

2877
02:01:50.439 --> 02:01:53.880
<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, oh pro Fanacy fourteen its it's either

2878
02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:56.239
<v Speaker 3>a while or Final Fantasy fourteen, because it is, it

2879
02:01:56.439 --> 02:01:58.039
<v Speaker 3>is a lot. But again, like my friend like the

2880
02:01:58.079 --> 02:02:01.920
<v Speaker 3>wanted maybe a problem like pre early on really five,

2881
02:02:02.079 --> 02:02:04.319
<v Speaker 3>like not too long after that game came out, it

2882
02:02:04.439 --> 02:02:06.439
<v Speaker 3>was like, yeah, I have a year of gameplay time

2883
02:02:06.560 --> 02:02:08.800
<v Speaker 3>in that game. A year a year.

2884
02:02:09.199 --> 02:02:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I It's weird though, because like I think, there is

2885
02:02:11.159 --> 02:02:13.520
<v Speaker 2>a part where that can seem like depressing, where it's like, oh,

2886
02:02:13.560 --> 02:02:16.279
<v Speaker 2>that much gameplay time, But then there's also like I

2887
02:02:16.439 --> 02:02:18.560
<v Speaker 2>also see it as a measurement of how much I

2888
02:02:18.760 --> 02:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>like a game. And I remember like Black Ops six,

2889
02:02:21.159 --> 02:02:22.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was the one where it's like, you know,

2890
02:02:22.640 --> 02:02:24.840
<v Speaker 2>because I not as much as like Grubb was just describing,

2891
02:02:24.880 --> 02:02:27.079
<v Speaker 2>but like those early modern warfares and stuff, I was

2892
02:02:27.119 --> 02:02:29.560
<v Speaker 2>definitely putting hundreds of hours and prestiging several times and

2893
02:02:29.600 --> 02:02:32.159
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, and like a Black Op six really

2894
02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:33.760
<v Speaker 2>blew me away by how much I got into it,

2895
02:02:33.800 --> 02:02:35.359
<v Speaker 2>and I would look like, wow, I got two days

2896
02:02:35.359 --> 02:02:36.840
<v Speaker 2>of in game time I got the other day, you know,

2897
02:02:36.840 --> 02:02:38.760
<v Speaker 2>two and a half. I prestiged twice, like shit, I

2898
02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:40.760
<v Speaker 2>have done this since two thousand and eight or whatever,

2899
02:02:41.560 --> 02:02:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and I kind of see that as like, sweet, all right, wow,

2900
02:02:43.800 --> 02:02:45.800
<v Speaker 2>it really got me this time. I do feel like

2901
02:02:45.840 --> 02:02:48.000
<v Speaker 2>if we'd gotten to like, oh, I have months or

2902
02:02:48.039 --> 02:02:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a year of in game time, I think I would

2903
02:02:50.680 --> 02:02:53.239
<v Speaker 2>not look at that and be like, oh sweet, you know, yeah, I'm.

2904
02:02:53.119 --> 02:02:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Kind of glad I gone on that train so early.

2905
02:02:54.720 --> 02:02:56.199
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the reasons I didn't play a

2906
02:02:56.319 --> 02:02:57.960
<v Speaker 3>ton of those Call of Duties I played a bit

2907
02:02:58.359 --> 02:03:00.520
<v Speaker 3>was because I did play a ton of Tea Fortress

2908
02:03:00.600 --> 02:03:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Classic in like nineteen ninety nine, right, like real early.

2909
02:03:04.279 --> 02:03:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Shit, all right, next one is coming in from Tom

2910
02:03:09.479 --> 02:03:12.760
<v Speaker 2>from London. I fire skip Crew. I was listening to

2911
02:03:12.800 --> 02:03:15.720
<v Speaker 2>the conversation with Mary, Drew and Mike about flying and

2912
02:03:15.800 --> 02:03:18.880
<v Speaker 2>had a question. The older I get, the worst flying becomes.

2913
02:03:19.199 --> 02:03:21.039
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't so bad until a few years back. On

2914
02:03:21.119 --> 02:03:24.960
<v Speaker 2>an internal flight in Thailand, I experienced one of those

2915
02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:29.119
<v Speaker 2>emergency flyaways where pilots readjust their landing line. For example,

2916
02:03:29.199 --> 02:03:31.199
<v Speaker 2>you're coming down from thirty thousand feet we got to

2917
02:03:31.239 --> 02:03:34.119
<v Speaker 2>about ten thousand and the pilot flew up, up and away.

2918
02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Do not recommend these days. The worst part for me

2919
02:03:37.199 --> 02:03:39.319
<v Speaker 2>is the takeoff. I started timing it from the start

2920
02:03:39.399 --> 02:03:41.560
<v Speaker 2>of takeoff to when I feel relaxed, and it's about

2921
02:03:41.600 --> 02:03:45.039
<v Speaker 2>three minutes. One thing I helped finds is find helps

2922
02:03:45.079 --> 02:03:47.119
<v Speaker 2>his distraction. I look at the lights on the ceiling

2923
02:03:47.159 --> 02:03:49.199
<v Speaker 2>and count them going up and down above the passengers.

2924
02:03:49.199 --> 02:03:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I've tried playing my steam Deck or Switch Vampire Survivors,

2925
02:03:51.960 --> 02:03:53.560
<v Speaker 2>but it's hard to concentrate on the game. Do you

2926
02:03:53.600 --> 02:03:56.119
<v Speaker 2>have any tips for getting through takeoff, turbulence and landing.

2927
02:03:56.239 --> 02:03:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Keep up the great work, Tom in London.

2928
02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's funny because none of those three people or

2929
02:04:00.279 --> 02:04:03.359
<v Speaker 3>on this episode, but uh still, I know you're talking about.

2930
02:04:03.640 --> 02:04:08.119
<v Speaker 3>In fact, my last flight to Orlando just about a

2931
02:04:08.199 --> 02:04:11.319
<v Speaker 3>month ago, we were like landing, we were like it

2932
02:04:11.399 --> 02:04:13.640
<v Speaker 3>felt like five feet off the ground. We just started

2933
02:04:13.680 --> 02:04:16.640
<v Speaker 3>going back up right and and every it was like

2934
02:04:16.720 --> 02:04:19.920
<v Speaker 3>everyone's looking at each other like what's this about. And

2935
02:04:20.039 --> 02:04:22.439
<v Speaker 3>it takes them a while for the pilots that tell

2936
02:04:22.479 --> 02:04:24.199
<v Speaker 3>us that hey, there's just an up draft, we need

2937
02:04:24.279 --> 02:04:27.319
<v Speaker 3>to try it again. But you know, like they're busy.

2938
02:04:27.439 --> 02:04:28.720
<v Speaker 3>I get it, they're flying the plane, but for a

2939
02:04:28.760 --> 02:04:31.880
<v Speaker 3>while they're like, what's going on. Yeah, here's my recommendation,

2940
02:04:32.159 --> 02:04:36.760
<v Speaker 3>xanax pills. If you want some over the counter stuff.

2941
02:04:36.880 --> 02:04:39.880
<v Speaker 3>Just gets some dramamine. It makes you sleepy, like, don't

2942
02:04:39.960 --> 02:04:42.399
<v Speaker 3>feel bad about that. That's what that stuff is is

2943
02:04:42.560 --> 02:04:44.600
<v Speaker 3>there for. I think if you go see a doctor

2944
02:04:44.640 --> 02:04:47.399
<v Speaker 3>and just say you get really anxious about airplanes, you

2945
02:04:47.439 --> 02:04:51.119
<v Speaker 3>could probably get a prescription, like just just get just

2946
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:53.880
<v Speaker 3>get some pills. It's they're fine, you're you know, don't

2947
02:04:53.920 --> 02:04:56.319
<v Speaker 3>abuse them, just take them for flying. You got it.

2948
02:04:56.439 --> 02:04:59.039
<v Speaker 4>Like, you know, this doesn't work for everybody, but you know,

2949
02:04:59.199 --> 02:05:01.319
<v Speaker 4>you're what you your body's telling you stuff. That's what

2950
02:05:01.399 --> 02:05:04.600
<v Speaker 4>anxiety is, uh, And there's ways like you can improve

2951
02:05:04.680 --> 02:05:06.600
<v Speaker 4>that by having a healthier diet and stuff like that

2952
02:05:06.680 --> 02:05:08.800
<v Speaker 4>and makeing sure your gut biomes in place because a

2953
02:05:08.840 --> 02:05:10.520
<v Speaker 4>lot of anxiety comes from there. But whatever, you can't

2954
02:05:10.520 --> 02:05:14.159
<v Speaker 4>control that entirely, especially based on the American diets. But

2955
02:05:14.640 --> 02:05:17.079
<v Speaker 4>you know your body's talking to you. You can talk

2956
02:05:17.159 --> 02:05:20.000
<v Speaker 4>back to your body, like verbalize it. You can tell

2957
02:05:20.039 --> 02:05:23.439
<v Speaker 4>yourself I'm safe and your body might believe you. It

2958
02:05:23.520 --> 02:05:25.760
<v Speaker 4>won't always, but it might, and that can help a

2959
02:05:25.800 --> 02:05:28.319
<v Speaker 4>little bit. So like, just recognize you that you're in

2960
02:05:28.399 --> 02:05:30.399
<v Speaker 4>a conversation with your body, your mind, and you're in

2961
02:05:30.479 --> 02:05:32.359
<v Speaker 4>you're in the rest of your body. Those are all

2962
02:05:32.399 --> 02:05:34.760
<v Speaker 4>just senses informing your mind to what's going on. You

2963
02:05:34.800 --> 02:05:37.119
<v Speaker 4>can take control your mind and say, all right, senses,

2964
02:05:37.199 --> 02:05:39.840
<v Speaker 4>I recognize that. Thank you for telling me that you're afraid.

2965
02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:42.039
<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to tell you now I think we're safe.

2966
02:05:42.319 --> 02:05:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Let's just kind of feel better about this and it

2967
02:05:44.479 --> 02:05:46.520
<v Speaker 4>it becomes a feedback loop and it can and can

2968
02:05:46.600 --> 02:05:48.279
<v Speaker 4>help you know, if you want to, like a little

2969
02:05:48.359 --> 02:05:50.960
<v Speaker 4>another trick, there's like a five four three two one

2970
02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:53.680
<v Speaker 4>thing where it's like name five things you see, Name

2971
02:05:53.760 --> 02:05:55.960
<v Speaker 4>four things you can touch, Name three things.

2972
02:05:55.800 --> 02:05:58.199
<v Speaker 1>You can as you're hearing, and then yes four than

2973
02:05:58.279 --> 02:05:58.920
<v Speaker 1>yeah that does.

2974
02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:00.720
<v Speaker 4>That's gonna take you through it. That take you three minutes,

2975
02:06:00.760 --> 02:06:01.039
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

2976
02:06:01.079 --> 02:06:02.159
<v Speaker 1>That's a good plane one for sure.

2977
02:06:02.199 --> 02:06:02.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2978
02:06:02.680 --> 02:06:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I've had anxiety. I've talked about a

2979
02:06:05.079 --> 02:06:08.239
<v Speaker 2>plenty for many, many years, and I'm still working on it.

2980
02:06:08.319 --> 02:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>And like lately, you know, I've alluded to all this

2981
02:06:10.079 --> 02:06:12.640
<v Speaker 2>flying stuff and like I'm not suddenly magically cured. That's

2982
02:06:12.640 --> 02:06:15.760
<v Speaker 2>not how anxiety works. But like last year I had

2983
02:06:15.800 --> 02:06:20.039
<v Speaker 2>a huge run of travel that I was fucking terrified of.

2984
02:06:20.119 --> 02:06:22.039
<v Speaker 2>I remember I found out I was going to Games Calm,

2985
02:06:22.560 --> 02:06:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and I just remember, for like two months leading up

2986
02:06:24.640 --> 02:06:26.159
<v Speaker 2>to it, it's all I could think about. I couldn't

2987
02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:28.239
<v Speaker 2>sleep at night because I was worried about these international flights.

2988
02:06:28.359 --> 02:06:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Remember Bank and I went to go see Twisters and

2989
02:06:30.600 --> 02:06:32.600
<v Speaker 2>we were like going to talk about it afterwards, and

2990
02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I told her, like, honestly, I don't think I took

2991
02:06:34.920 --> 02:06:37.159
<v Speaker 2>in any of that movie because I was just thinking

2992
02:06:37.199 --> 02:06:39.520
<v Speaker 2>about that flight to Germany and worrying about like freaking

2993
02:06:39.560 --> 02:06:41.479
<v Speaker 2>out and stuff like that. So it's so much time

2994
02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:43.039
<v Speaker 2>in therapy, so much time trying to figure it out.

2995
02:06:43.039 --> 02:06:44.800
<v Speaker 2>And I used to like do like I would just

2996
02:06:44.840 --> 02:06:46.159
<v Speaker 2>get tanked. I would just like show up at the

2997
02:06:46.159 --> 02:06:49.600
<v Speaker 2>airport bar lounge like three hours early, drink a shit

2998
02:06:49.680 --> 02:06:51.600
<v Speaker 2>ton and stuff. Drink on the plane. I used to,

2999
02:06:51.640 --> 02:06:53.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, bring little lairplaye bottles on there with me.

3000
02:06:53.319 --> 02:06:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, that was I would feel like shit,

3001
02:06:56.359 --> 02:06:58.399
<v Speaker 2>the New Land where you're going, and it's like, oh great,

3002
02:06:58.439 --> 02:07:00.840
<v Speaker 2>now I have a giant hangover in anxiety thing for

3003
02:07:00.920 --> 02:07:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the next day and a half. I knew I couldn't

3004
02:07:02.720 --> 02:07:04.760
<v Speaker 2>do that. Talk to the doctors about that. They gave

3005
02:07:04.800 --> 02:07:07.880
<v Speaker 2>me xanax. Like Mike mentioned, it does work. It absolutely

3006
02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:09.680
<v Speaker 2>does work. I've always been worried about it because you know,

3007
02:07:09.880 --> 02:07:12.159
<v Speaker 2>it can be highly addictive and stuff like that. So

3008
02:07:12.319 --> 02:07:15.920
<v Speaker 2>like when I went to Tokyo last time, I took

3009
02:07:16.239 --> 02:07:19.000
<v Speaker 2>a point five milligram Xanax on the way out there,

3010
02:07:19.079 --> 02:07:20.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's like a fourteen hour flight and you know,

3011
02:07:20.960 --> 02:07:22.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of wear us off after like four to six hours.

3012
02:07:23.039 --> 02:07:24.720
<v Speaker 2>And remember for four to six hours, it's kind of

3013
02:07:24.760 --> 02:07:27.000
<v Speaker 2>like I'm doing okay here, okay, And I didn't want

3014
02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:28.399
<v Speaker 2>to drink cause I'd just taken a x aana ax,

3015
02:07:28.439 --> 02:07:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I could probably just ride this out.

3016
02:07:30.600 --> 02:07:32.359
<v Speaker 2>And I wrote it out and I landed and it

3017
02:07:32.399 --> 02:07:34.079
<v Speaker 2>felt great about it. And then on the way back,

3018
02:07:34.119 --> 02:07:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember getting to the airport and being like, well,

3019
02:07:36.720 --> 02:07:38.199
<v Speaker 2>I should I'm boarding in a half hour. I should

3020
02:07:38.239 --> 02:07:40.399
<v Speaker 2>take the xanax. And I was like, well, you knowest

3021
02:07:40.439 --> 02:07:42.399
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of fine coming out here, and I

3022
02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:45.920
<v Speaker 2>remember coming back stone cold, sober the whole time. And

3023
02:07:46.159 --> 02:07:47.840
<v Speaker 2>now it's like now I'm about to do all these

3024
02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:50.119
<v Speaker 2>international flights, and like I'd get a little bit nervous

3025
02:07:50.159 --> 02:07:53.520
<v Speaker 2>but I think by it's the uh, it's the cognitive

3026
02:07:53.520 --> 02:07:55.399
<v Speaker 2>behavioral thing where it's like, you know, just by doing it,

3027
02:07:55.720 --> 02:07:59.800
<v Speaker 2>it kind of opens up exposure therapy. Yeah, yeah, exposure therapies. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

3028
02:08:00.119 --> 02:08:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I had the same thing. I mean I used to

3029
02:08:01.680 --> 02:08:04.479
<v Speaker 3>take xanax and then eventually, like gosh, at first I

3030
02:08:04.560 --> 02:08:07.479
<v Speaker 3>was taking like xan x and dramamine to get through

3031
02:08:07.560 --> 02:08:09.760
<v Speaker 3>the fight. Then it's like, well, maybe I don't need

3032
02:08:09.760 --> 02:08:12.399
<v Speaker 3>to dream xanax, nmark and just do the drama mean,

3033
02:08:12.479 --> 02:08:14.880
<v Speaker 3>and like, now if I have to go on it cold,

3034
02:08:15.159 --> 02:08:16.640
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I like to take the dramming just because

3035
02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:19.159
<v Speaker 3>it makes me sleepy more than anything. Right, So it's

3036
02:08:19.199 --> 02:08:21.119
<v Speaker 3>like because I'm bored on the plane and I don't,

3037
02:08:21.199 --> 02:08:22.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'll just sleep.

3038
02:08:22.279 --> 02:08:24.119
<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, I even if.

3039
02:08:24.039 --> 02:08:25.920
<v Speaker 3>You do the xanax, I don't think you're gonna be

3040
02:08:26.000 --> 02:08:27.640
<v Speaker 3>using xanax for the rest of your life. It is

3041
02:08:27.680 --> 02:08:30.439
<v Speaker 3>almost like a training wheels thing. Eventually you may not

3042
02:08:30.520 --> 02:08:32.720
<v Speaker 3>anymore if you do need this though whatever. That's what

3043
02:08:32.800 --> 02:08:34.039
<v Speaker 3>it's there for every flight.

3044
02:08:34.239 --> 02:08:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Like no one's like, I mean, that's not badly, it's

3045
02:08:36.880 --> 02:08:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a problem if like you get home and you're taking

3046
02:08:38.680 --> 02:08:39.800
<v Speaker 2>it when it's just right.

3047
02:08:39.760 --> 02:08:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Exactly or whatever.

3048
02:08:41.039 --> 02:08:43.279
<v Speaker 3>But like yeah, just like you know, that's why you

3049
02:08:43.319 --> 02:08:45.439
<v Speaker 3>have to go through doctors and get prescriptions and things

3050
02:08:45.520 --> 02:08:47.800
<v Speaker 3>like that. You know, to be clear, don't go getting

3051
02:08:47.920 --> 02:08:49.920
<v Speaker 3>xanax off the black market or whatever.

3052
02:08:50.359 --> 02:08:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But if and this applies to planes or anything you

3053
02:08:53.039 --> 02:08:55.199
<v Speaker 2>might be anxious about, and all of my learning about

3054
02:08:55.199 --> 02:08:57.199
<v Speaker 2>anxiety and everything, the thing that works for me most

3055
02:08:57.359 --> 02:08:58.520
<v Speaker 2>now and it's not.

3056
02:08:58.920 --> 02:09:00.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not you know, I need to dannax.

3057
02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:01.960
<v Speaker 2>You don't need now, call, don't need anything for this

3058
02:09:02.600 --> 02:09:05.359
<v Speaker 2>is just when you feel it coming up, when you

3059
02:09:05.479 --> 02:09:07.359
<v Speaker 2>feel the heart and the heart you know your your

3060
02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:10.159
<v Speaker 2>your hands get tangly, your feet get tingly, the breath

3061
02:09:10.239 --> 02:09:14.000
<v Speaker 2>gets rapid, and everything. I for so long tried to

3062
02:09:14.159 --> 02:09:15.680
<v Speaker 2>fight it where it's like, okay, I'm going to do this,

3063
02:09:15.760 --> 02:09:18.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna distract myself. I'm going to do this breathing technique.

3064
02:09:18.399 --> 02:09:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this. I've done fucking everything you

3065
02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:24.199
<v Speaker 2>can imagine to try to distract myself or stop it.

3066
02:09:25.279 --> 02:09:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't do that.

3067
02:09:26.680 --> 02:09:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Just fucking realize that, Like, look, you've probably had anxiety before,

3068
02:09:30.560 --> 02:09:33.319
<v Speaker 2>you might have had panic attacks before. You've felt as

3069
02:09:33.399 --> 02:09:35.920
<v Speaker 2>bad as it gets, and you've been fine. And so

3070
02:09:36.359 --> 02:09:37.720
<v Speaker 2>what I do now is if I feel that, and

3071
02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:40.039
<v Speaker 2>I still feel that during taxing and take off like

3072
02:09:40.159 --> 02:09:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you described, Tom, and once I start feeling it, I

3073
02:09:43.039 --> 02:09:45.439
<v Speaker 2>don't do anything to try to stop it. I literally

3074
02:09:45.560 --> 02:09:47.239
<v Speaker 2>just like sit there and I'll like I'll put my

3075
02:09:47.279 --> 02:09:49.640
<v Speaker 2>steam deck down, I'll put it in the little pocket

3076
02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and i will just like close my eyes and I'll

3077
02:09:51.520 --> 02:09:53.920
<v Speaker 2>be like, all right, I see you. I feel this,

3078
02:09:54.199 --> 02:09:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Like hit me, just give me everything you got here,

3079
02:09:56.800 --> 02:09:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Like let's just show me. Just do everything you got

3080
02:09:58.920 --> 02:10:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and just get it out of yourself, out of my system.

3081
02:10:01.319 --> 02:10:02.840
<v Speaker 2>And because I know it's not gonna hurt me, and

3082
02:10:02.920 --> 02:10:05.680
<v Speaker 2>so you just let it do its thing. Don't try

3083
02:10:05.720 --> 02:10:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to fight it, because I think by resisting it, it

3084
02:10:08.279 --> 02:10:09.920
<v Speaker 2>does kind of leave us. Oh no, I'm still feeling this.

3085
02:10:10.000 --> 02:10:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm slow. It's not doing it.

3086
02:10:11.239 --> 02:10:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Nobody like it's not working. Just let it, let it

3087
02:10:14.359 --> 02:10:15.840
<v Speaker 1>do its thing completely.

3088
02:10:15.600 --> 02:10:18.600
<v Speaker 4>And label it even be like just say that's what's happening.

3089
02:10:18.640 --> 02:10:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's the brand, here's the heart, right, here's that thing.

3090
02:10:21.000 --> 02:10:23.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, just call it out and like it all

3091
02:10:23.199 --> 02:10:24.880
<v Speaker 4>just puts in like a little bit of compartment for

3092
02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:27.079
<v Speaker 4>you and like, Okay, I see it happening. I can.

3093
02:10:27.199 --> 02:10:29.520
<v Speaker 4>I've handled worse what you said there, like, yeah, I've

3094
02:10:29.520 --> 02:10:30.079
<v Speaker 4>been through worse.

3095
02:10:30.359 --> 02:10:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And like I'm not cured, certainly, I don't

3096
02:10:33.640 --> 02:10:35.159
<v Speaker 2>intend on or I don't think I ever will be,

3097
02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:38.000
<v Speaker 2>but like, I can do this stuff now and get

3098
02:10:38.039 --> 02:10:39.520
<v Speaker 2>through the discomfort, you know, because.

3099
02:10:39.279 --> 02:10:39.720
<v Speaker 1>That's all it is.

3100
02:10:39.760 --> 02:10:43.239
<v Speaker 2>It's discomfort and weird thoughts and anxiety isn't reality. You're

3101
02:10:43.279 --> 02:10:46.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be fine. So yeah, so Tom, good luck with

3102
02:10:46.880 --> 02:10:50.199
<v Speaker 2>your future flights. I know how you're feeling, all right.

3103
02:10:50.439 --> 02:10:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Next up, we got Ben from Lexington, Kentucky. Says, Dan,

3104
02:10:54.439 --> 02:10:56.760
<v Speaker 2>can you please explain how you came to love Final

3105
02:10:56.840 --> 02:10:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Tactics. It is one of my favorite games of

3106
02:10:59.640 --> 02:11:02.800
<v Speaker 2>all time, but notoriously slow to build and very talky

3107
02:11:02.920 --> 02:11:04.840
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, so I'm always surprised to hear you

3108
02:11:04.880 --> 02:11:06.840
<v Speaker 2>say you loved it when it's brought up, since it's

3109
02:11:06.840 --> 02:11:09.439
<v Speaker 2>well known you don't like Final Fantasy or other Tactics games.

3110
02:11:09.479 --> 02:11:11.640
<v Speaker 2>When I know, please answer this. It's been boggling my

3111
02:11:11.720 --> 02:11:13.279
<v Speaker 2>mind for like the past eight years.

3112
02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:16.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad i'm here. Look, I love this show, Dan,

3113
02:11:16.840 --> 02:11:19.960
<v Speaker 3>but I hate it anytime Final Fantasy comes up, I

3114
02:11:20.159 --> 02:11:24.359
<v Speaker 3>swear to God. At one point I concocted this giant plan.

3115
02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:27.239
<v Speaker 3>Next time I'm on and we get to like, what, like, oh,

3116
02:11:27.279 --> 02:11:28.439
<v Speaker 3>what are you playing? I was gonna be like, oh,

3117
02:11:28.479 --> 02:11:30.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm playing this game called Final Fantasy one, and I

3118
02:11:30.520 --> 02:11:32.039
<v Speaker 3>was going to talk about that for a while and

3119
02:11:32.039 --> 02:11:33.880
<v Speaker 3>they're like, okay, Mike, what else? So I'm playing Final

3120
02:11:33.920 --> 02:11:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Fantasy too. I was gonna basically fill a buster and

3121
02:11:42.600 --> 02:11:44.800
<v Speaker 3>I was like, that's probably not great content.

3122
02:11:45.840 --> 02:11:48.760
<v Speaker 4>I would have enjoyed it, just based on how much

3123
02:11:48.800 --> 02:11:50.079
<v Speaker 4>you would have been enjoying yourself.

3124
02:11:51.720 --> 02:11:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Probably a world where I go through those because like, look,

3125
02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I like ten a lot, I like Tactics a lot.

3126
02:11:55.880 --> 02:11:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I like these games in the past.

3127
02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:01.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is interesting. I mean I believe you that,

3128
02:12:01.159 --> 02:12:02.800
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of way these games aren't your things.

3129
02:12:02.840 --> 02:12:05.800
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I was thinking like sometimes like like oh,

3130
02:12:05.840 --> 02:12:07.840
<v Speaker 3>I like, you know, really actiony games, right, but then

3131
02:12:07.880 --> 02:12:11.600
<v Speaker 3>you love something like Blueprints, And you know, I know

3132
02:12:11.680 --> 02:12:14.000
<v Speaker 3>that you know that you like a wide variety games.

3133
02:12:14.039 --> 02:12:16.399
<v Speaker 3>I think you like an even wider variety of games

3134
02:12:16.439 --> 02:12:17.239
<v Speaker 3>than you realize.

3135
02:12:17.279 --> 02:12:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that could be true.

3136
02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like, look, I know I don't like

3137
02:12:21.520 --> 02:12:24.880
<v Speaker 2>talkie games and tactics can be talkie, but it's also

3138
02:12:25.159 --> 02:12:28.840
<v Speaker 2>deeply like I like thinky and strategic games, and this

3139
02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:30.720
<v Speaker 2>this email says like, oh, I didn't know you liked

3140
02:12:30.760 --> 02:12:31.439
<v Speaker 2>other tactics games.

3141
02:12:31.560 --> 02:12:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like XKAM a lot. I love Into the Breach.

3142
02:12:33.640 --> 02:12:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I love like chess. As a kid, I had a

3143
02:12:36.359 --> 02:12:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Kasparov chess.

3144
02:12:37.359 --> 02:12:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Machine that it was like you'd play against an ai

3145
02:12:39.840 --> 02:12:41.439
<v Speaker 2>and it was like, you know, this is the early nineties,

3146
02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:42.920
<v Speaker 2>so it was just like two lights to be like, okay,

3147
02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:45.199
<v Speaker 2>move the night to be four, and like I would

3148
02:12:45.319 --> 02:12:47.199
<v Speaker 2>just play chess against the fucking.

3149
02:12:47.279 --> 02:12:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Net, you know, punishment. I'm making Mike play into the

3150
02:12:49.520 --> 02:12:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Breach so fucking hard.

3151
02:12:53.359 --> 02:12:55.439
<v Speaker 3>I played it. Oh you did play it? Okay, I

3152
02:12:55.479 --> 02:12:56.800
<v Speaker 3>played it, and I liked it. I don't know why

3153
02:12:56.840 --> 02:12:59.680
<v Speaker 3>I didn't. I actually I don't know why I found it.

3154
02:13:00.439 --> 02:13:02.359
<v Speaker 3>That's what it was. I don't know why I didn't

3155
02:13:02.359 --> 02:13:03.960
<v Speaker 3>at least specific time.

3156
02:13:04.600 --> 02:13:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, Yeah, yeah, it's but honestly it's a very

3157
02:13:08.760 --> 02:13:11.600
<v Speaker 2>time and place thing because I it was O two

3158
02:13:12.600 --> 02:13:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and i'd just gotten the sp and I got a blue.

3159
02:13:15.560 --> 02:13:17.439
<v Speaker 4>We're talking about techics advanced to be clearly right.

3160
02:13:17.520 --> 02:13:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well but I did I wound up reviewing more

3161
02:13:20.399 --> 02:13:23.399
<v Speaker 2>of the Lions, the remake of the first one. But specifically,

3162
02:13:23.439 --> 02:13:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the reason I found out I loved Advance was because

3163
02:13:26.359 --> 02:13:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I it was my first semester of college, which means

3164
02:13:29.479 --> 02:13:31.319
<v Speaker 2>it was the only semester of college.

3165
02:13:31.039 --> 02:13:33.279
<v Speaker 1>That I actually tried to go to class because I thought, oh,

3166
02:13:33.359 --> 02:13:34.560
<v Speaker 1>this is important. It's college.

3167
02:13:35.399 --> 02:13:37.560
<v Speaker 2>And but all my classes were like these big you know,

3168
02:13:37.720 --> 02:13:40.840
<v Speaker 2>three hundred class auditorium three hundred person class auditoriums for

3169
02:13:40.920 --> 02:13:42.640
<v Speaker 2>like film classes and stuff like that. So it was

3170
02:13:42.760 --> 02:13:44.640
<v Speaker 2>very easy for me to sit in the back and

3171
02:13:44.880 --> 02:13:47.560
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, it turns out I like portable gaming.

3172
02:13:47.640 --> 02:13:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I got an SP.

3173
02:13:49.479 --> 02:13:52.239
<v Speaker 3>That's right, you're anti portable gaming. It was I did.

3174
02:13:52.399 --> 02:13:55.000
<v Speaker 2>The SP changed fucking everything for me because the GBA,

3175
02:13:55.399 --> 02:13:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I knew it had good games with the backline situation

3176
02:13:57.520 --> 02:13:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like.

3177
02:13:58.279 --> 02:13:59.800
<v Speaker 1>So man, the SP I just gotten that.

3178
02:13:59.880 --> 02:14:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I got Linked the Past and four Swords on that,

3179
02:14:02.239 --> 02:14:04.880
<v Speaker 2>and then I got like, I got great reviews Final

3180
02:14:04.920 --> 02:14:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Fantasy Taxics Advanced. All right, people rave about this game.

3181
02:14:08.079 --> 02:14:09.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll give it a shot. And I would just sit

3182
02:14:09.800 --> 02:14:12.560
<v Speaker 2>in the back of class for that entire semester, and

3183
02:14:12.800 --> 02:14:15.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I did headphones but I would just

3184
02:14:15.199 --> 02:14:17.199
<v Speaker 2>play it and like, yeah, I got through the talkie beginning.

3185
02:14:17.199 --> 02:14:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Probably didn't love it Everymber, like snowball fight or whatever,

3186
02:14:20.479 --> 02:14:22.760
<v Speaker 2>but that got me through that semester. It's like the

3187
02:14:22.880 --> 02:14:26.199
<v Speaker 2>one college class I went to regularly. I got through

3188
02:14:26.600 --> 02:14:29.800
<v Speaker 2>survived because I had Final Fantasy Taxics advance and like,

3189
02:14:30.079 --> 02:14:32.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, one good fight of that game is a

3190
02:14:32.520 --> 02:14:33.000
<v Speaker 2>chess match.

3191
02:14:33.039 --> 02:14:35.560
<v Speaker 1>You know that'll last fifty minutes. You know.

3192
02:14:36.239 --> 02:14:38.520
<v Speaker 3>I can kind of see the difference between that and

3193
02:14:38.520 --> 02:14:43.520
<v Speaker 3>a normal Final Fantasy. There's a lot of inconsequential battles

3194
02:14:43.600 --> 02:14:45.960
<v Speaker 3>in a normal JR like that, right, oh oh, in

3195
02:14:46.039 --> 02:14:48.279
<v Speaker 3>normal Jeopardies, I say, normal Jeopardizes, there's a lot of like,

3196
02:14:48.479 --> 02:14:50.960
<v Speaker 3>all right, you're gonna fight three wolves, and you are

3197
02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:54.680
<v Speaker 3>just kind of pushing x X attack attack, attack a lot.

3198
02:14:54.920 --> 02:14:57.760
<v Speaker 3>And for me, it's a flow state and it's relaxing

3199
02:14:58.079 --> 02:15:01.000
<v Speaker 3>and I enjoy it. I just kind of the progression

3200
02:15:01.159 --> 02:15:04.319
<v Speaker 3>and the exploration of it. But it's a very different

3201
02:15:04.520 --> 02:15:08.560
<v Speaker 3>from the game being dominated by this literal chess board

3202
02:15:08.600 --> 02:15:11.239
<v Speaker 3>and thinking about these kind of big battles where every

3203
02:15:11.319 --> 02:15:12.640
<v Speaker 3>decision really matters.

3204
02:15:12.920 --> 02:15:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I feel like I'm like leveling up all

3205
02:15:14.439 --> 02:15:16.199
<v Speaker 2>these different things and everything versus like, yeah, you talk

3206
02:15:16.199 --> 02:15:18.960
<v Speaker 2>about Final Fantasy, And I tried several times because FF

3207
02:15:19.079 --> 02:15:21.640
<v Speaker 2>seven was such a thing that people like it was

3208
02:15:21.720 --> 02:15:22.000
<v Speaker 2>held on.

3209
02:15:22.079 --> 02:15:23.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like it was like a middle year solid level

3210
02:15:23.840 --> 02:15:25.359
<v Speaker 1>of a pedestal back then, oh for sure.

3211
02:15:25.399 --> 02:15:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And I tried several times to play it, and it

3212
02:15:27.760 --> 02:15:30.239
<v Speaker 2>was like as soon as the overworld opened up, you know,

3213
02:15:30.279 --> 02:15:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I remember, I think the farthest I got in that

3214
02:15:31.760 --> 02:15:33.880
<v Speaker 2>game was the Golden Saucer all the times I tried

3215
02:15:33.920 --> 02:15:35.600
<v Speaker 2>to play it, and because it would open up to

3216
02:15:35.640 --> 02:15:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that overworld at some point, and it's just like I

3217
02:15:37.800 --> 02:15:40.159
<v Speaker 2>remember every time it would we go into the fight,

3218
02:15:40.239 --> 02:15:42.680
<v Speaker 2>if god fucking damn it, I'm just gonna hit X

3219
02:15:42.760 --> 02:15:44.359
<v Speaker 2>and like I gotta wait for the load back out,

3220
02:15:44.399 --> 02:15:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and like I don't feel like I'm really playing, you know.

3221
02:15:46.479 --> 02:15:50.520
<v Speaker 2>But like Tactics was like I'm thinking I'm doing things,

3222
02:15:50.600 --> 02:15:51.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, yep.

3223
02:15:51.359 --> 02:15:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Even like just seeing the Tactics in magazines, I'd be like, yeah,

3224
02:15:54.239 --> 02:15:57.359
<v Speaker 4>that looks appealing. That just looks so much fun. I'm like,

3225
02:15:57.680 --> 02:16:00.279
<v Speaker 4>I imagine myself liking Final Fantasy Taxics, but where I

3226
02:16:00.359 --> 02:16:02.760
<v Speaker 4>ever played it, And then when I finally did, it's like, yeah,

3227
02:16:02.800 --> 02:16:07.119
<v Speaker 4>this super click. That's that is uh okay, we joke

3228
02:16:07.119 --> 02:16:09.960
<v Speaker 4>about Marvel Rivals. I did a red Light try to

3229
02:16:09.960 --> 02:16:12.239
<v Speaker 4>play some Final Fantasy Tactics and kept playing it for

3230
02:16:12.399 --> 02:16:14.720
<v Speaker 4>like ten seconds longer than I should have. And I

3231
02:16:14.840 --> 02:16:18.000
<v Speaker 4>remember that like no way back in the day. I

3232
02:16:18.039 --> 02:16:20.119
<v Speaker 4>was driving to my job at FedEx, and I just

3233
02:16:20.159 --> 02:16:22.520
<v Speaker 4>remember being like, I'm driving, what am I doing? I

3234
02:16:22.560 --> 02:16:23.920
<v Speaker 4>had to like close it and like throw it in

3235
02:16:24.000 --> 02:16:27.039
<v Speaker 4>the seat. The worst driving it was terrible. I was

3236
02:16:27.279 --> 02:16:28.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I just like brought it with me. I'll

3237
02:16:28.680 --> 02:16:30.000
<v Speaker 4>play it on my lunch break, and I think I

3238
02:16:30.119 --> 02:16:32.120
<v Speaker 4>just was like, well, this red Light's taking fucking forever.

3239
02:16:32.159 --> 02:16:34.399
<v Speaker 3>I'll just play some here and I'm like and.

3240
02:16:34.399 --> 02:16:39.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm playing like Summer Zone and then it's like I stuck.

3241
02:16:39.399 --> 02:16:41.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm like I just got to finish this thing. And

3242
02:16:41.280 --> 02:16:42.760
<v Speaker 4>then I'm just like I'm like this is terrible. And

3243
02:16:42.799 --> 02:16:44.040
<v Speaker 4>I closed it and I like threw it so I

3244
02:16:44.079 --> 02:16:44.879
<v Speaker 4>couldn't even reach.

3245
02:16:44.760 --> 02:16:49.159
<v Speaker 3>It, and damn, where are you with firearm blew?

3246
02:16:49.280 --> 02:16:53.879
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember liked it a lot on GBA.

3247
02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I might have reviewed some of those GBA games and

3248
02:16:57.159 --> 02:16:59.200
<v Speaker 2>then Battalion, like I don't know, I played all the

3249
02:16:59.239 --> 02:17:01.079
<v Speaker 2>battalion wars, the ones that don't really matter no one

3250
02:17:01.159 --> 02:17:01.600
<v Speaker 2>cares about.

3251
02:17:01.959 --> 02:17:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh. The one that I really loved was Awakening, making

3252
02:17:06.159 --> 02:17:09.159
<v Speaker 1>the best one. That one's so fucking good. I played

3253
02:17:09.479 --> 02:17:10.440
<v Speaker 1>ship out of that game.

3254
02:17:10.760 --> 02:17:12.479
<v Speaker 2>God, the actual like tactic parts of that and like

3255
02:17:12.520 --> 02:17:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the way that like certain characters you know, working off

3256
02:17:14.799 --> 02:17:16.600
<v Speaker 2>each other and everything, Like I love everything about it.

3257
02:17:17.360 --> 02:17:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Between that game it's so good, and the stuff in

3258
02:17:19.760 --> 02:17:24.079
<v Speaker 2>between was not so dominant. It wasn't like where they

3259
02:17:24.159 --> 02:17:26.000
<v Speaker 2>lost me was you go to the newer games and

3260
02:17:26.120 --> 02:17:28.799
<v Speaker 2>it's like, all right, half the game, if not more,

3261
02:17:29.159 --> 02:17:31.799
<v Speaker 2>is like in between, I'm walking around chatting to animate

3262
02:17:31.840 --> 02:17:33.440
<v Speaker 2>people and like, okay, I can deal with that if

3263
02:17:33.479 --> 02:17:36.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like two seconds between fucking cool fights.

3264
02:17:36.799 --> 02:17:39.280
<v Speaker 1>But like the switch ones and everything.

3265
02:17:39.360 --> 02:17:41.200
<v Speaker 3>I was okay with it in three Houses and then

3266
02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:43.680
<v Speaker 3>like engaged in it, but worse.

3267
02:17:43.479 --> 02:17:46.120
<v Speaker 4>And engage just like run around and go do five

3268
02:17:46.239 --> 02:17:51.159
<v Speaker 4>things every time, and the tactics are so good and

3269
02:17:51.280 --> 02:17:53.440
<v Speaker 4>engaged though it's the best final, it's the best Fire

3270
02:17:53.479 --> 02:17:55.520
<v Speaker 4>Home has ever been in terms of gameplay, but just

3271
02:17:55.600 --> 02:17:56.879
<v Speaker 4>everything in between so much.

3272
02:17:56.799 --> 02:17:59.959
<v Speaker 3>Everything is like the aesthetics worst, the characters are worst.

3273
02:18:00.040 --> 02:18:01.639
<v Speaker 3>That in between stuff is bullshit.

3274
02:18:01.719 --> 02:18:03.239
<v Speaker 4>I wish I wish they would that would get a

3275
02:18:03.280 --> 02:18:05.959
<v Speaker 4>special edition, they would edit all that stuff Downrob, you

3276
02:18:06.000 --> 02:18:07.399
<v Speaker 4>got me thinking about this stuff when you were talking

3277
02:18:07.399 --> 02:18:10.799
<v Speaker 4>about that Advance Wars like this week on the BombCast,

3278
02:18:10.840 --> 02:18:12.520
<v Speaker 4>and it's like, man, I just want to play more

3279
02:18:12.559 --> 02:18:14.680
<v Speaker 4>fucking advanced wars, Like I bring my analog.

3280
02:18:14.719 --> 02:18:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll just wind up playing blackmon Rising here. Yeah,

3281
02:18:17.600 --> 02:18:17.879
<v Speaker 1>there you go.

3282
02:18:18.520 --> 02:18:20.680
<v Speaker 4>That Tiny Metal two is pretty good. That is a

3283
02:18:20.719 --> 02:18:21.040
<v Speaker 4>good one.

3284
02:18:21.120 --> 02:18:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh I downloaded it, so it's an option while I'm

3285
02:18:23.520 --> 02:18:28.360
<v Speaker 2>out there. Okay, yeah, alrighty okay. This is a quiz

3286
02:18:28.600 --> 02:18:33.719
<v Speaker 2>for YouTube. Oh fun from Piston Hundai, who's frequent. He's

3287
02:18:33.799 --> 02:18:36.760
<v Speaker 2>got a lot of good trivia knowledge, and uh we

3288
02:18:36.879 --> 02:18:39.879
<v Speaker 2>got one here and it says, hey gang. A remaster

3289
02:18:40.200 --> 02:18:44.520
<v Speaker 2>for the also ran nineties mascot platformer Kroc Legend of

3290
02:18:44.559 --> 02:18:47.200
<v Speaker 2>the Gabbos came out recently, and while playing it, I

3291
02:18:47.319 --> 02:18:49.479
<v Speaker 2>learned it had far more success than you would think.

3292
02:18:50.040 --> 02:18:51.520
<v Speaker 2>With this in mind, I thought it'd be fun to

3293
02:18:51.559 --> 02:18:54.159
<v Speaker 2>have a quiz one that cuts Marry at break because

3294
02:18:54.200 --> 02:18:56.440
<v Speaker 2>even though you have to be smoking dust to think

3295
02:18:56.479 --> 02:18:59.399
<v Speaker 2>that Diablo two is more important than Mario sixty four.

3296
02:19:00.399 --> 02:19:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I was so with you. I love Mary. I got

3297
02:19:03.159 --> 02:19:04.680
<v Speaker 3>so mad at her listening to that.

3298
02:19:04.959 --> 02:19:08.040
<v Speaker 4>I sometimes you guys have arguments on the show where

3299
02:19:08.120 --> 02:19:09.639
<v Speaker 4>people are like, no, you need to go listen to this.

3300
02:19:09.840 --> 02:19:11.760
<v Speaker 4>I never listened to the Links Awakening one because I

3301
02:19:11.799 --> 02:19:13.600
<v Speaker 4>couldn't hear listen to you guys talk about that. When

3302
02:19:13.600 --> 02:19:15.079
<v Speaker 4>I heard that, I'm like, I can't. I can't even

3303
02:19:15.120 --> 02:19:18.680
<v Speaker 4>listen to Mary talk this bullshit about Diablo being more

3304
02:19:18.719 --> 02:19:20.159
<v Speaker 4>important than Mario sixty four.

3305
02:19:21.200 --> 02:19:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Why don't we real quickly me and you say that

3306
02:19:23.680 --> 02:19:28.120
<v Speaker 3>Link's Awakenings won the best games ever. Just everybody, no.

3307
02:19:29.879 --> 02:19:32.760
<v Speaker 1>On the place you'll put that on the list. Yes,

3308
02:19:34.079 --> 02:19:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Mike and Dance.

3309
02:19:34.840 --> 02:19:37.879
<v Speaker 2>Nostalgia might be clouding their judgment of the n sixty

3310
02:19:37.920 --> 02:19:41.120
<v Speaker 2>four's impact to a degree, regardless, And so I asked

3311
02:19:41.159 --> 02:19:45.959
<v Speaker 2>them which of these Nintendo sixty four classics sold more

3312
02:19:46.079 --> 02:19:49.120
<v Speaker 2>copies than a middle of the Road PS one game

3313
02:19:49.360 --> 02:19:51.760
<v Speaker 2>nobody under the age of twenty five has heard of.

3314
02:19:52.399 --> 02:19:55.319
<v Speaker 4>So, okay, but this is Crocs weird.

3315
02:19:55.520 --> 02:19:58.159
<v Speaker 2>But I have ten games here, and if you will

3316
02:19:58.239 --> 02:20:01.360
<v Speaker 2>tell me what sold more the game, I'm gonna say

3317
02:20:01.600 --> 02:20:04.239
<v Speaker 2>or Kroc Legend of the Gobbos. Okay, it's gonna be

3318
02:20:04.280 --> 02:20:07.280
<v Speaker 2>sixty four game versus Kroc for PlayStation one. Are you

3319
02:20:07.319 --> 02:20:09.600
<v Speaker 2>ready Yoshi's Story?

3320
02:20:10.559 --> 02:20:12.799
<v Speaker 3>I think there's no way Yoshi Story sold more than Kroc.

3321
02:20:12.920 --> 02:20:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeats Kroc was supposed to be a Yoshi game, but

3322
02:20:16.479 --> 02:20:18.559
<v Speaker 3>that's like the very first original idea for it.

3323
02:20:18.680 --> 02:20:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Yep, the winner is Kroc. Yeah, Kirby sixty four.

3324
02:20:23.959 --> 02:20:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Probably, yeah, no one, No one played Kirby sixty four.

3325
02:20:27.879 --> 02:20:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I bet I woonderf Kirby sixty four sold better than

3326
02:20:30.079 --> 02:20:33.399
<v Speaker 3>Yoshi's Story. I don't know, I bet not. I bet not.

3327
02:20:34.079 --> 02:20:37.920
<v Speaker 1>So your answer both Crock Kroc. The answer is Krock Okay,

3328
02:20:38.559 --> 02:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Perfect Dark.

3329
02:20:41.559 --> 02:20:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it feels going. I definitely sold better than Kroc.

3330
02:20:45.319 --> 02:20:49.520
<v Speaker 4>But I'll just say Perfect Dark because you know it

3331
02:20:49.559 --> 02:20:51.799
<v Speaker 4>should be it should it should have sold more. Let's say,

3332
02:20:52.040 --> 02:20:54.639
<v Speaker 4>I bet it's somehow still is Krock. But yeah, now

3333
02:20:54.840 --> 02:20:56.879
<v Speaker 4>for my own sanity, say perfect Dark. There are so

3334
02:20:56.959 --> 02:20:58.520
<v Speaker 4>many games on the play that there's like a handfl

3335
02:20:58.520 --> 02:21:01.000
<v Speaker 4>of games on the PlayStation that sold weirdly well, like

3336
02:21:01.079 --> 02:21:03.799
<v Speaker 4>that Frogger game, Like like, what are we talking about it?

3337
02:21:04.280 --> 02:21:06.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, the answer is Crock.

3338
02:21:07.239 --> 02:21:08.959
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's gonna be Crock for all.

3339
02:21:09.239 --> 02:21:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

3340
02:21:09.680 --> 02:21:13.159
<v Speaker 4>Star Wars Shadows of the Empire. Oh, that was a

3341
02:21:13.239 --> 02:21:15.440
<v Speaker 4>big game too. It's a launch game. It's like the one,

3342
02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:17.840
<v Speaker 4>like the other game you could well near launch, right,

3343
02:21:18.120 --> 02:21:21.719
<v Speaker 4>It's like one of the other games you could have got. Yeah,

3344
02:21:21.760 --> 02:21:25.000
<v Speaker 4>how the Star Wars, Yeah, it's still crack, but I'm

3345
02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:26.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna say it's probably still I think it's gonna.

3346
02:21:26.479 --> 02:21:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Be Crock for all of them, but I'll say Star

3347
02:21:27.680 --> 02:21:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Wars the winner is Crock.

3348
02:21:29.360 --> 02:21:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Rock, Dinosaur Hunter, it's Crock.

3349
02:21:34.440 --> 02:21:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Crock.

3350
02:21:35.120 --> 02:21:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Pokemon Stadium too.

3351
02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Two Mmmm. It's a late and in second in Town

3352
02:21:43.280 --> 02:21:45.520
<v Speaker 3>sixty four game. Yeah, I guess it's kind of like

3353
02:21:45.879 --> 02:21:47.520
<v Speaker 3>to really get the most out of that, you need

3354
02:21:47.600 --> 02:21:50.079
<v Speaker 3>already have gold and silver and like the link stuff.

3355
02:21:50.959 --> 02:21:52.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, Crock.

3356
02:21:51.959 --> 02:21:55.959
<v Speaker 1>It's Crock. Wit you have no mercy ship.

3357
02:21:56.639 --> 02:21:59.959
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy, It's insane. It's cross saying that it's Crock.

3358
02:22:00.200 --> 02:22:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Away is Kroc. Mario Tennis, that's fucking crah Man.

3359
02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Mario Tennis is so good, but fucking Kroc.

3360
02:22:07.920 --> 02:22:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Winner is Kroc. Mario Golf, It's come on the crock

3361
02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:22.040
<v Speaker 2>of the final question. Mario party, Oh, Mario party, It's

3362
02:22:22.079 --> 02:22:23.040
<v Speaker 2>a Mario party.

3363
02:22:23.440 --> 02:22:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Yes, stick it in at the end.

3364
02:22:24.520 --> 02:22:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to read this for Baidum. The winner is

3365
02:22:26.920 --> 02:22:32.399
<v Speaker 1>Mario Party. Yeah, just kidding it. Somehow fucking Crock again got.

3366
02:22:32.559 --> 02:22:35.440
<v Speaker 4>So the places you fans do love to point this out. Uh,

3367
02:22:35.799 --> 02:22:37.399
<v Speaker 4>and then you have to ask them, well, how well

3368
02:22:37.440 --> 02:22:38.719
<v Speaker 4>did KROC to sell?

3369
02:22:38.959 --> 02:22:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Well?

3370
02:22:39.200 --> 02:22:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Exactly true, yes, but we have a bonus round and

3371
02:22:42.879 --> 02:22:43.840
<v Speaker 2>it could be a tie breaker.

3372
02:22:43.840 --> 02:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the score, but the bonus round is.

3373
02:22:47.280 --> 02:22:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Kroc is reported to have sold over three million copies

3374
02:22:50.680 --> 02:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>on the PS one alone. Of the three hundred and

3375
02:22:53.840 --> 02:22:57.399
<v Speaker 2>eighty eight games released for the Nintendo sixty four, how

3376
02:22:57.479 --> 02:22:59.159
<v Speaker 2>many of them passed this mark?

3377
02:22:59.280 --> 02:23:01.840
<v Speaker 3>The closest there aren't that many.

3378
02:23:02.680 --> 02:23:04.440
<v Speaker 4>N CC four is so like what they sold forty

3379
02:23:04.520 --> 02:23:10.159
<v Speaker 4>million five. I bet the only ones that sold better

3380
02:23:10.239 --> 02:23:16.280
<v Speaker 4>than it are Mario Offerin of Time, Gordon I, Mario Kart,

3381
02:23:17.159 --> 02:23:20.159
<v Speaker 4>and Smash Brothers One.

3382
02:23:20.799 --> 02:23:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm at five. Yeah, five sounds good, but I

3383
02:23:23.680 --> 02:23:27.719
<v Speaker 3>gotta do more. Maybe maybe like some other rare game

3384
02:23:27.799 --> 02:23:29.719
<v Speaker 3>did well, I'm gonna say six.

3385
02:23:30.239 --> 02:23:34.120
<v Speaker 1>The answer is thirteen thirteen. Okay, whether I win.

3386
02:23:34.840 --> 02:23:35.159
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

3387
02:23:35.639 --> 02:23:40.319
<v Speaker 4>That's closer wild the Crock Yeah, yeah, like PlayStation just

3388
02:23:40.360 --> 02:23:43.520
<v Speaker 4>has a handful of those anomalies and it's like, you

3389
02:23:43.600 --> 02:23:46.040
<v Speaker 4>know what it was. They wanted their Mario sixty four

3390
02:23:46.079 --> 02:23:48.120
<v Speaker 4>and they were desperate for it, so it's like they

3391
02:23:48.159 --> 02:23:49.399
<v Speaker 4>were looking for it in anything.

3392
02:23:49.559 --> 02:23:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was telling myself Crash was just as

3393
02:23:51.280 --> 02:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>good as Mario, and then it was.

3394
02:23:52.479 --> 02:23:55.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then just like the Crocks like that. But

3395
02:23:55.200 --> 02:23:57.040
<v Speaker 4>it's got like it's actually three D worlds and you

3396
02:23:57.120 --> 02:23:59.799
<v Speaker 4>run around and say, yeah, okay, have fun with that. Yeah,

3397
02:24:00.079 --> 02:24:02.680
<v Speaker 4>you have a good time of Crock piss some great stuff.

3398
02:24:03.319 --> 02:24:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Was fine Ques, Yeah, I like that. That's a good

3399
02:24:04.959 --> 02:24:06.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, listen, we do that with Luigi's mansion, right,

3400
02:24:06.840 --> 02:24:08.799
<v Speaker 4>so medicine.

3401
02:24:08.719 --> 02:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>That's scary to play.

3402
02:24:12.799 --> 02:24:13.399
<v Speaker 3>For you too.

3403
02:24:14.799 --> 02:24:16.479
<v Speaker 4>That's my favorite, by the way.

3404
02:24:18.120 --> 02:24:19.639
<v Speaker 1>That's a good all right.

3405
02:24:19.719 --> 02:24:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Next up, Hello, I am a thirty three year old

3406
02:24:22.079 --> 02:24:25.200
<v Speaker 2>father of two. Love my family more than anything. Side

3407
02:24:25.200 --> 02:24:27.639
<v Speaker 2>effects include getting so little me time sometimes you get

3408
02:24:27.719 --> 02:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>choice paralysis and do nothing instead. Let me tell you,

3409
02:24:31.040 --> 02:24:33.120
<v Speaker 2>wasting your free time when you often feel this way

3410
02:24:33.280 --> 02:24:36.280
<v Speaker 2>is quite regrettable. But what's not regrettable is using a

3411
02:24:36.319 --> 02:24:39.200
<v Speaker 2>few hours on a Saturday evening after a tough bedtime

3412
02:24:39.280 --> 02:24:43.120
<v Speaker 2>battle to soak in the goodness that is mcgruber. My

3413
02:24:43.239 --> 02:24:46.319
<v Speaker 2>favorite part was when the spoiler warning nuke went off,

3414
02:24:46.840 --> 02:24:50.520
<v Speaker 2>killing the main antagonist well and blowing up the warehouse.

3415
02:24:50.920 --> 02:24:53.879
<v Speaker 2>Some editing guy must have decided to play a tiger

3416
02:24:54.040 --> 02:24:57.799
<v Speaker 2>roaring during that really cool explosion. Bless that editing guy

3417
02:24:58.040 --> 02:25:00.959
<v Speaker 2>at stage. Yeah, it's it's really like up there in

3418
02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the mix too, It's.

3419
02:25:01.719 --> 02:25:07.120
<v Speaker 4>Like I love that movie.

3420
02:25:07.319 --> 02:25:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

3421
02:25:07.559 --> 02:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone took out.

3422
02:25:09.079 --> 02:25:12.479
<v Speaker 2>The tributes to vel Kilmer that uh uh Will Forte

3423
02:25:12.639 --> 02:25:14.879
<v Speaker 2>wrote and also I think on the Lonely Island podcast

3424
02:25:14.920 --> 02:25:16.120
<v Speaker 2>did the whole thing about it. I did not know

3425
02:25:16.159 --> 02:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that Will Forte and val Kilmer were roommates for months

3426
02:25:18.879 --> 02:25:19.600
<v Speaker 2>after mcgoverer.

3427
02:25:19.719 --> 02:25:24.040
<v Speaker 4>That's you know, that most interesting man in the world.

3428
02:25:24.360 --> 02:25:27.319
<v Speaker 4>That dose he's used to do. Melchilmer is maybe in

3429
02:25:27.360 --> 02:25:28.639
<v Speaker 4>the running for that actual time.

3430
02:25:28.639 --> 02:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I read his autobiography like last year, it's like he's

3431
02:25:31.159 --> 02:25:33.479
<v Speaker 2>like just incredible, like incredible life.

3432
02:25:33.559 --> 02:25:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

3433
02:25:33.959 --> 02:25:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, rest in peace, Vell all right, next up, hey,

3434
02:25:37.200 --> 02:25:38.719
<v Speaker 2>fire Escape. I had a friend this week, tell me

3435
02:25:38.799 --> 02:25:42.360
<v Speaker 2>my taste in movies is too obscure. He provided several examples,

3436
02:25:42.440 --> 02:25:46.319
<v Speaker 2>including The Big Lebowski. In no way, shape or form

3437
02:25:46.520 --> 02:25:47.799
<v Speaker 2>is that an obscure movie?

3438
02:25:47.959 --> 02:25:48.879
<v Speaker 1>But to him it is.

3439
02:25:49.559 --> 02:25:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Would my family know what the Big Lebowski is, would

3440
02:25:52.120 --> 02:25:54.399
<v Speaker 2>a random stranger on the street know it? It made

3441
02:25:54.440 --> 02:25:56.879
<v Speaker 2>me think about what obscure is. You all have what

3442
02:25:57.040 --> 02:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>many would have considered obscure interests, and he gave Eames, wrestling, warhammer,

3443
02:26:01.719 --> 02:26:04.200
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But within the realm of other people who

3444
02:26:04.280 --> 02:26:06.959
<v Speaker 2>engage in those hobbies, you may not go as deep

3445
02:26:07.040 --> 02:26:09.719
<v Speaker 2>as others do. My question for you is what hobby

3446
02:26:09.840 --> 02:26:12.399
<v Speaker 2>do you consider yourself to have the most surface level

3447
02:26:12.559 --> 02:26:15.479
<v Speaker 2>understanding and or knowledge of? In Which hobby do you

3448
02:26:15.520 --> 02:26:18.719
<v Speaker 2>have the most in depth understanding of ps and people

3449
02:26:18.719 --> 02:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>can brush your teeth in the shower, then Dan should

3450
02:26:20.399 --> 02:26:22.239
<v Speaker 2>be able to clean his butthole in the sink, just

3451
02:26:22.399 --> 02:26:25.479
<v Speaker 2>saying love. I don't know if that was from what

3452
02:26:25.600 --> 02:26:27.959
<v Speaker 2>happens on this show. I don't know what happened last episode.

3453
02:26:28.840 --> 02:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>My butthole is just for the shower, a showering god,

3454
02:26:35.120 --> 02:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>and that's it.

3455
02:26:35.879 --> 02:26:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's wild, because like, like you, you can't understand that.

3456
02:26:39.959 --> 02:26:42.399
<v Speaker 3>There's some people just look at Big Lebowski. You're like,

3457
02:26:42.479 --> 02:26:46.319
<v Speaker 3>that's some obscure thing. But if you are even sniffing

3458
02:26:46.600 --> 02:26:50.040
<v Speaker 3>the realm of being a sinophile, then the big Lebowski

3459
02:26:50.159 --> 02:26:52.879
<v Speaker 3>is like so common it's so.

3460
02:26:53.079 --> 02:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Popular several decades. Right.

3461
02:26:56.959 --> 02:27:00.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like in that pulp fiction like own, or.

3462
02:27:01.079 --> 02:27:02.840
<v Speaker 2>In a bar in Iceland a couple of years ago

3463
02:27:02.840 --> 02:27:05.719
<v Speaker 2>when there's a big Lebowski you bar in Iceland there's

3464
02:27:05.719 --> 02:27:07.600
<v Speaker 2>a big Lebowski festival.

3465
02:27:07.360 --> 02:27:10.399
<v Speaker 3>Like my my bar has Big Labowski Day. They so

3466
02:27:10.680 --> 02:27:11.360
<v Speaker 3>mugs for it.

3467
02:27:11.559 --> 02:27:14.360
<v Speaker 4>It's not yeah, come on, no, it clearly you're clearly right.

3468
02:27:14.399 --> 02:27:17.319
<v Speaker 4>But I mean I have had those friends who are

3469
02:27:17.399 --> 02:27:20.200
<v Speaker 4>like every paycheck like this is a long time ago.

3470
02:27:20.239 --> 02:27:22.319
<v Speaker 4>So this story is gonna sound out David. Every paycheck,

3471
02:27:22.360 --> 02:27:23.959
<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna go. I'm gonna go to best Buy

3472
02:27:24.239 --> 02:27:26.399
<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna buy a bunch of DVDs. He's like, oh,

3473
02:27:26.440 --> 02:27:28.079
<v Speaker 4>this guy must really like movie. And he's like, yeah,

3474
02:27:28.120 --> 02:27:30.280
<v Speaker 4>come in my room. And it's like, well that sure

3475
02:27:30.399 --> 02:27:33.239
<v Speaker 4>is every Police Academy movie and every Mike Myers.

3476
02:27:33.040 --> 02:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Movie and man, no hate School for sure.

3477
02:27:37.719 --> 02:27:42.000
<v Speaker 4>School for sure like like maybe two copies, and it's

3478
02:27:42.079 --> 02:27:44.719
<v Speaker 4>like anything else, It's like, no, literally nothing else other

3479
02:27:44.840 --> 02:27:47.680
<v Speaker 4>than here are like the corporate comedies. And like, again,

3480
02:27:47.760 --> 02:27:49.600
<v Speaker 4>I love these movies. I'm not like putting them down

3481
02:27:49.639 --> 02:27:51.479
<v Speaker 4>by calling them that, but it's like, here's the movies

3482
02:27:51.520 --> 02:27:53.440
<v Speaker 4>corporations have made for me. These are the movies I like.

3483
02:27:53.520 --> 02:27:55.000
<v Speaker 4>And that's as far as they think about it. And

3484
02:27:55.959 --> 02:27:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I've seen it, so I get how this happens.

3485
02:27:58.079 --> 02:27:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Some people just have I don't want to say simple.

3486
02:28:00.280 --> 02:28:03.559
<v Speaker 3>We had a friend in my circle and we kind

3487
02:28:03.600 --> 02:28:06.280
<v Speaker 3>of like always laugh because the Hobbit movies came out

3488
02:28:06.360 --> 02:28:08.200
<v Speaker 3>right and we were like, man, tho zos are so

3489
02:28:08.280 --> 02:28:10.360
<v Speaker 3>bad and she couldn't understand why we thought they were bad,

3490
02:28:10.440 --> 02:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>and she was like, all right, but they had the

3491
02:28:12.319 --> 02:28:15.319
<v Speaker 3>biggest battle. It was like the biggest battle ever. And

3492
02:28:15.399 --> 02:28:17.559
<v Speaker 3>in the movies the battle was so big, and like

3493
02:28:17.879 --> 02:28:20.399
<v Speaker 3>to this day with like basically were talking about slop,

3494
02:28:20.479 --> 02:28:22.399
<v Speaker 3>we're kind of like, yeah, but it had the biggest battle.

3495
02:28:24.399 --> 02:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember I was doing like a watch party on

3496
02:28:26.479 --> 02:28:28.319
<v Speaker 2>a Twitch night or something, and it was like after

3497
02:28:28.799 --> 02:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>me and Kayla had been streaming something, so she was

3498
02:28:30.920 --> 02:28:34.280
<v Speaker 2>like on the call on discord basically, and the movie

3499
02:28:34.360 --> 02:28:37.600
<v Speaker 2>was Big Lebowski and I remember like we hit the

3500
02:28:37.680 --> 02:28:39.879
<v Speaker 2>thing and me and Caleb Pinner's playing the game and

3501
02:28:39.879 --> 02:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to start Big Lebowski and I'm like, Kyl's.

3502
02:28:42.520 --> 02:28:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Like I'll stick around. It's like I don't know this

3503
02:28:44.719 --> 02:28:47.319
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a Caleb movie. She was like, no,

3504
02:28:47.559 --> 02:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>watch it.

3505
02:28:48.280 --> 02:28:51.040
<v Speaker 2>And we watched like the first like forty minutes and

3506
02:28:51.120 --> 02:28:54.520
<v Speaker 2>like I'm cracking up the chat's loving it. Kayla is

3507
02:28:54.600 --> 02:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>just like it's not even like registering how it's a comedy. Yeah,

3508
02:28:58.879 --> 02:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's like I think there's a certain but she's

3509
02:29:00.879 --> 02:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>not a movie person at all. She's not like, I

3510
02:29:03.040 --> 02:29:05.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know, b Lebowski is like a comedy snob movie

3511
02:29:05.600 --> 02:29:06.959
<v Speaker 2>or a movie snob movie.

3512
02:29:06.799 --> 02:29:11.680
<v Speaker 4>But like it's it's a if you are not into

3513
02:29:11.760 --> 02:29:13.600
<v Speaker 4>on its level, it's like, oh, you have to watch

3514
02:29:13.639 --> 02:29:16.280
<v Speaker 4>it three times before it becomes funny movie. Like for sure,

3515
02:29:16.920 --> 02:29:18.440
<v Speaker 4>I think I actually hated it the first time I

3516
02:29:18.479 --> 02:29:20.280
<v Speaker 4>saw especially because I think I didn't get it the

3517
02:29:20.280 --> 02:29:21.719
<v Speaker 4>first time. But I watched it as a teenager and

3518
02:29:21.799 --> 02:29:23.520
<v Speaker 4>it was like I needed a little bit more under

3519
02:29:23.559 --> 02:29:23.879
<v Speaker 4>my belt.

3520
02:29:23.959 --> 02:29:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Plus my brother was one of those people who really

3521
02:29:26.120 --> 02:29:27.760
<v Speaker 3>liked even before I saw it, so I was just

3522
02:29:27.879 --> 02:29:30.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of like going in already thinking it was obnoxious.

3523
02:29:30.920 --> 02:29:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Then like when I saw it for the third time

3524
02:29:32.440 --> 02:29:34.479
<v Speaker 3>five years later, I'm like, this is pretty It's a

3525
02:29:34.520 --> 02:29:38.719
<v Speaker 3>pretty freaking good Yeah, pretty pretty fun. Well, it's it's

3526
02:29:38.719 --> 02:29:39.440
<v Speaker 3>a perfect script.

3527
02:29:39.840 --> 02:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so good, one of the most perfect. It's

3528
02:29:41.959 --> 02:29:43.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe the comedy that's aged the best ever.

3529
02:29:44.079 --> 02:29:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, in terms of like hobby, I am in the

3530
02:29:47.239 --> 02:29:49.799
<v Speaker 3>deepest weeds of it. Might be the Disney theme park

3531
02:29:49.840 --> 02:29:51.639
<v Speaker 3>stuff even more than video games.

3532
02:29:51.879 --> 02:29:53.879
<v Speaker 4>But what's the most surface? So I I do keep

3533
02:29:54.000 --> 02:29:56.760
<v Speaker 4>music at a distance. I just uh, it's like I

3534
02:29:57.440 --> 02:29:59.840
<v Speaker 4>enjoy hearing music. I like listening to it, but like I,

3535
02:30:00.079 --> 02:30:01.520
<v Speaker 4>like I talked about with you the other day, Mike,

3536
02:30:01.559 --> 02:30:04.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't really try to learn the tracks names. I

3537
02:30:04.319 --> 02:30:06.319
<v Speaker 4>don't like I know the song when I hear it,

3538
02:30:06.520 --> 02:30:08.239
<v Speaker 4>and I'll try to find it. I'll bring it up

3539
02:30:08.280 --> 02:30:09.559
<v Speaker 4>every once in a while, but I'll be like searching

3540
02:30:09.600 --> 02:30:12.159
<v Speaker 4>for some random lyric to try to find it, and I,

3541
02:30:12.479 --> 02:30:15.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, don't even like know the names of the

3542
02:30:15.360 --> 02:30:17.600
<v Speaker 4>tracks are some of my favorite band's biggest songs. So

3543
02:30:17.680 --> 02:30:20.200
<v Speaker 4>it's like, but it's it has not been a detriment

3544
02:30:20.239 --> 02:30:22.920
<v Speaker 4>to my enjoyment of music. But I don't pretend to

3545
02:30:22.959 --> 02:30:24.600
<v Speaker 4>be someone who's like a music guy.

3546
02:30:25.000 --> 02:30:27.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of similar with music a lot of other things.

3547
02:30:27.959 --> 02:30:30.280
<v Speaker 3>If I like it, I do kind of like get

3548
02:30:30.360 --> 02:30:32.680
<v Speaker 3>into it and I want to know, like how how

3549
02:30:32.840 --> 02:30:35.399
<v Speaker 3>is this may like I can't just drink Scotch. When

3550
02:30:35.399 --> 02:30:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I got into Scotch during the pandemic, I did want

3551
02:30:38.079 --> 02:30:40.920
<v Speaker 3>to learn about the different regions and why, why what

3552
02:30:41.120 --> 02:30:44.239
<v Speaker 3>makes p D scotch peatie? What is Pete? Like? What

3553
02:30:44.360 --> 02:30:47.559
<v Speaker 3>are we doing here? And things like that. So yeah,

3554
02:30:48.280 --> 02:30:50.639
<v Speaker 3>music's probably a similar one, and it's you know, it's

3555
02:30:50.639 --> 02:30:53.159
<v Speaker 3>always kind of funny because I just don't know certain things,

3556
02:30:53.280 --> 02:30:55.280
<v Speaker 3>especially about the Wutan group or whatever.

3557
02:30:56.200 --> 02:30:58.719
<v Speaker 2>It's funny how you can simultaneously feel like I'm both

3558
02:30:58.760 --> 02:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>sides of like, you know, an expert or not about something,

3559
02:31:01.799 --> 02:31:04.280
<v Speaker 2>because like with movies, I know, it's a common joke

3560
02:31:04.280 --> 02:31:06.479
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, you know, I went to film school,

3561
02:31:06.600 --> 02:31:08.719
<v Speaker 2>but like I don't get symbolism and and I haven't

3562
02:31:08.719 --> 02:31:10.680
<v Speaker 2>seen this thing or whatever, but like I'm talking about

3563
02:31:10.719 --> 02:31:12.559
<v Speaker 2>like you know, Big Lebowski and stuff like that. Like

3564
02:31:12.879 --> 02:31:14.559
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people on the internet don't

3565
02:31:14.639 --> 02:31:19.159
<v Speaker 2>know enough normies because it's like I am they battle

3566
02:31:19.200 --> 02:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>those normal people. I have definitely watched way more movies

3567
02:31:23.639 --> 02:31:26.760
<v Speaker 2>and no way more about movies than most folks. But

3568
02:31:26.840 --> 02:31:28.319
<v Speaker 2>then it's like there are times too where it's like,

3569
02:31:28.479 --> 02:31:31.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I fucking love Rocky and I remember it was,

3570
02:31:31.559 --> 02:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, a couple of years ago. At this point,

3571
02:31:33.360 --> 02:31:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Jess on a podcast was like, Oh, how do you

3572
02:31:35.639 --> 02:31:37.520
<v Speaker 2>not know this thing about you love Rocky? How do

3573
02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:39.879
<v Speaker 2>you not know that he like sold his dog or

3574
02:31:39.920 --> 02:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever to the Rocky one or something like. I never

3575
02:31:43.360 --> 02:31:45.559
<v Speaker 2>went deep on the making of Rocky really, but like

3576
02:31:45.680 --> 02:31:47.879
<v Speaker 2>I thought about Rocky every day in my life and

3577
02:31:47.920 --> 02:31:48.879
<v Speaker 2>seen them all a million times.

3578
02:31:49.000 --> 02:31:50.399
<v Speaker 1>But that like makes me think like, oh, wait, am

3579
02:31:50.399 --> 02:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I just like a fake movie fan or something?

3580
02:31:52.479 --> 02:31:54.239
<v Speaker 2>But then you meet like normies and it's like, oh,

3581
02:31:54.360 --> 02:31:57.040
<v Speaker 2>you don't know who scor says he is or something,

3582
02:31:57.120 --> 02:31:59.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that type of thing. But like, there's

3583
02:31:59.799 --> 02:32:01.639
<v Speaker 2>all going to be different levels to that, and I

3584
02:32:01.760 --> 02:32:04.159
<v Speaker 2>think the end is always going to be super skewed,

3585
02:32:04.399 --> 02:32:06.639
<v Speaker 2>like super online people are always going to be like.

3586
02:32:07.239 --> 02:32:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh, this guy doesn't know anything, and no, just go

3587
02:32:10.200 --> 02:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>talk to your neighbors. You know they're gonna know.

3588
02:32:13.440 --> 02:32:15.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, go go read them your letter box reviews, and

3589
02:32:15.559 --> 02:32:17.479
<v Speaker 4>I promise you they'll get their shotgun and ask you

3590
02:32:17.559 --> 02:32:17.879
<v Speaker 4>to leave.

3591
02:32:18.079 --> 02:32:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

3592
02:32:18.399 --> 02:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>They probably have their phones out during a movie.

3593
02:32:21.200 --> 02:32:23.879
<v Speaker 3>Probably that's disgusting.

3594
02:32:26.959 --> 02:32:28.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, oh yeah, service level? Did I say?

3595
02:32:29.799 --> 02:32:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think like, because I feel like I

3596
02:32:32.440 --> 02:32:35.120
<v Speaker 2>only kind of go super deep on stuff where it's like,

3597
02:32:35.520 --> 02:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>like the most he has got to be wrestling for me.

3598
02:32:38.040 --> 02:32:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, you got wrestling more than anything.

3599
02:32:41.040 --> 02:32:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Especially now that I've like, you know, I have worked

3600
02:32:42.680 --> 02:32:44.239
<v Speaker 2>there and know people that are like I have to

3601
02:32:44.559 --> 02:32:46.159
<v Speaker 2>that has to be maybe more than video games because

3602
02:32:46.159 --> 02:32:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anything about like making video games.

3603
02:32:48.719 --> 02:32:51.239
<v Speaker 1>But boys gave up a couple of guys putting match together,

3604
02:32:51.399 --> 02:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, right, exactly? No, for sure?

3605
02:32:54.719 --> 02:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, final question of the evening. Hello, all, I'm

3606
02:32:58.959 --> 02:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>about to be an asshole, but I need to ask,

3607
02:33:02.239 --> 02:33:04.239
<v Speaker 2>does Dan understand why the Hobbits are the.

3608
02:33:04.280 --> 02:33:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Heroes of the Lord of the Rings?

3609
02:33:05.799 --> 02:33:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh? God?

3610
02:33:06.760 --> 02:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Like? The whole point is that it's the smallest, the

3611
02:33:09.760 --> 02:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>physically least impressive, people who mostly love eating food and

3612
02:33:13.440 --> 02:33:16.600
<v Speaker 2>smoking weed and staying at home and minding their own

3613
02:33:16.639 --> 02:33:19.639
<v Speaker 2>business that are the only ones capable of saving the world.

3614
02:33:20.120 --> 02:33:22.840
<v Speaker 2>And maybe that message continues to have relevance in twenty

3615
02:33:22.959 --> 02:33:25.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. To put a very fine point on it,

3616
02:33:26.000 --> 02:33:28.840
<v Speaker 2>he gets that he himself is way closer to a

3617
02:33:28.920 --> 02:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Hobbit than he is to Vigo Mortenson. Yes, the Midwest

3618
02:33:32.479 --> 02:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>is his shire. Okay, love you all, even though you

3619
02:33:35.360 --> 02:33:37.799
<v Speaker 2>make me shoot hot on a regular basis. That is

3620
02:33:37.959 --> 02:33:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Nate from Bloomington, Minnesota. Okay, Yes, of course, of course

3621
02:33:45.399 --> 02:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm closer to a hobbit tonight.

3622
02:33:46.920 --> 02:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But I also don't think I'm like a strong, cool hero.

3623
02:33:50.280 --> 02:33:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Okay, But like Dan, I would much rather see a

3624
02:33:55.239 --> 02:34:03.040
<v Speaker 3>movie starring you than like, I don't know mister Tuffy

3625
02:34:03.159 --> 02:34:06.079
<v Speaker 3>mc tough guy, whoever that would be these days. Right,

3626
02:34:06.760 --> 02:34:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Like you are an interesting character who would be out

3627
02:34:09.920 --> 02:34:14.559
<v Speaker 3>of his element and would have to rise above, kind

3628
02:34:14.600 --> 02:34:18.239
<v Speaker 3>of like John Cena, right, Like, that's what's interesting about it.

3629
02:34:18.479 --> 02:34:24.440
<v Speaker 3>And there's something more beautiful and inspiring about you facing

3630
02:34:24.760 --> 02:34:28.200
<v Speaker 3>incredible odds and kind of being inserted into this battle

3631
02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:32.360
<v Speaker 3>amongst gods. And here's just Dan Reichert. And actually he's

3632
02:34:32.399 --> 02:34:35.200
<v Speaker 3>the one who's going to make the biggest difference and

3633
02:34:35.360 --> 02:34:39.639
<v Speaker 3>say all that you don't have an ego. That's why

3634
02:34:39.680 --> 02:34:42.760
<v Speaker 3>it's great because you're WoT you wouldn't, but you do,

3635
02:34:43.440 --> 02:34:51.840
<v Speaker 3>because small things can create greatness in this world. Yes,

3636
02:34:51.920 --> 02:34:53.479
<v Speaker 3>it's Rocky, it's Luke Skywalker, right.

3637
02:34:53.760 --> 02:34:58.520
<v Speaker 4>Luke Skywalker does long to be a hero, but everything

3638
02:34:58.600 --> 02:35:00.120
<v Speaker 4>in his life has told him he can't be. His

3639
02:35:00.239 --> 02:35:03.120
<v Speaker 4>situation has made it impossible. So even when confronted with

3640
02:35:03.200 --> 02:35:05.360
<v Speaker 4>the possibility to be in a hero, Ben's like come

3641
02:35:05.399 --> 02:35:07.120
<v Speaker 4>with me, every like you got to come with me

3642
02:35:07.200 --> 02:35:10.000
<v Speaker 4>to Aldron and help me out looks like what, No,

3643
02:35:10.319 --> 02:35:12.520
<v Speaker 4>I can't do that. So then when he finally does

3644
02:35:12.559 --> 02:35:14.639
<v Speaker 4>agree to go and do it, it's like, oh, he

3645
02:35:14.840 --> 02:35:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Now he's got to actually deal with the consequences of

3646
02:35:17.079 --> 02:35:19.520
<v Speaker 4>believing in himself and he's got to overcome that, and

3647
02:35:19.559 --> 02:35:21.479
<v Speaker 4>that that's what makes the whole arc work.

3648
02:35:21.600 --> 02:35:23.959
<v Speaker 3>Like Rocky would not be a good movie if Rocky

3649
02:35:24.040 --> 02:35:25.879
<v Speaker 3>actually was the number one contender.

3650
02:35:25.799 --> 02:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>A popular Rocky, Yes, it wouldn't be. Yeah, no, no.

3651
02:35:30.719 --> 02:35:32.600
<v Speaker 4>They picked him because he had a fun nickname and

3652
02:35:32.680 --> 02:35:35.440
<v Speaker 4>he's a schlub and his life is depressing, right and

3653
02:35:35.520 --> 02:35:38.159
<v Speaker 4>he had like lost the Spider Rico and yeah.

3654
02:35:38.319 --> 02:35:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, yeah, he beat but he's beat. He beats

3655
02:35:41.760 --> 02:35:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Spider Rico. Now, come on, let's just be clear here

3656
02:35:44.399 --> 02:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>about it.

3657
02:35:45.399 --> 02:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>He can't be as simple as the difference is Rocky

3658
02:35:48.520 --> 02:35:50.959
<v Speaker 2>seems real life and Lord of the Rings fantasy.

3659
02:35:51.120 --> 02:35:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I think it is. I think I do think you

3660
02:35:52.799 --> 02:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>have a hang up about fantasy, and I love I'm

3661
02:35:54.959 --> 02:35:56.879
<v Speaker 3>not sure what it is. I like that.

3662
02:35:57.159 --> 02:35:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I like Thrones, Fine, I've read that whole first book.

3663
02:35:59.799 --> 02:36:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, like something for some reason you

3664
02:36:01.520 --> 02:36:04.760
<v Speaker 3>get past it. But there's something about this more and

3665
02:36:04.840 --> 02:36:08.280
<v Speaker 3>always I don't want to say sincere, but archetypal fantasy

3666
02:36:08.399 --> 02:36:10.719
<v Speaker 3>that does have its roots in Lord of the Rings

3667
02:36:11.360 --> 02:36:14.799
<v Speaker 3>that bristles against you and I don't know why.

3668
02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:16.959
<v Speaker 2>And back of the day when I would hear led

3669
02:36:17.040 --> 02:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Zeppelin songs and I'd be like, these are the coolest

3670
02:36:19.200 --> 02:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>dudes in the world, and be.

3671
02:36:20.040 --> 02:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Like more Door Dor.

3672
02:36:27.959 --> 02:36:29.639
<v Speaker 4>Led Zeppelin, famous dorks.

3673
02:36:32.719 --> 02:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>This must just be some deep seated ball record stuff.

3674
02:36:35.479 --> 02:36:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Like everything is yeah, I have yeah, Like in my

3675
02:36:39.680 --> 02:36:43.559
<v Speaker 2>mind though, like it's like would I root for Al's Like,

3676
02:36:43.639 --> 02:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>am I more excited about an AL Snow match or

3677
02:36:45.760 --> 02:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>a Kenney Omega match? Well, yeah, I'm closer to AL Snow,

3678
02:36:50.239 --> 02:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>but U N Mega is way cooler to watch.

3679
02:36:52.959 --> 02:36:54.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's an economy because like right, like everyone's

3680
02:36:54.959 --> 02:36:57.040
<v Speaker 4>claims to like an underdog story, but you know, the

3681
02:36:57.159 --> 02:37:01.079
<v Speaker 4>number one basketball team in most states, it is not

3682
02:37:01.200 --> 02:37:02.920
<v Speaker 4>the team and that's in that state. It's the Los

3683
02:37:02.959 --> 02:37:06.959
<v Speaker 4>Angeles Lakers. It's like they're people like front runners too.

3684
02:37:07.159 --> 02:37:11.600
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think in a storytelling context, usually we

3685
02:37:11.719 --> 02:37:12.399
<v Speaker 4>like the underdog.

3686
02:37:12.520 --> 02:37:12.879
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

3687
02:37:14.360 --> 02:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Story leading and the rest of you thirty like the

3688
02:37:16.079 --> 02:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>little Max story.

3689
02:37:17.399 --> 02:37:20.040
<v Speaker 3>That's what that is. Yeah, who is Brian Danielsen remind

3690
02:37:20.159 --> 02:37:23.200
<v Speaker 3>you of perhaps a little bit, which is Little Mac. Yeah,

3691
02:37:23.239 --> 02:37:24.399
<v Speaker 3>he's a little hobbitist.

3692
02:37:24.479 --> 02:37:28.360
<v Speaker 4>If you ask me that, Brian, he is the most

3693
02:37:28.479 --> 02:37:30.440
<v Speaker 4>hobbitish wrestler that's ever existed.

3694
02:37:30.760 --> 02:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>That beards, Hobbit score beards.

3695
02:37:32.600 --> 02:37:35.559
<v Speaker 3>Actually not usually but besides for the beard thing, come on,

3696
02:37:35.719 --> 02:37:37.959
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of a short like he's like earthy and yeah,

3697
02:37:38.079 --> 02:37:39.639
<v Speaker 3>he's very earthy the hemp Belt.

3698
02:37:40.120 --> 02:37:42.879
<v Speaker 2>There was something about the Hobbits because again I went

3699
02:37:42.959 --> 02:37:45.319
<v Speaker 2>into those movies. I can't say this enough. I went

3700
02:37:45.440 --> 02:37:47.399
<v Speaker 2>into them wanting to love them so bad. I got

3701
02:37:47.520 --> 02:37:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the first book, I thought it was gonna be the

3702
02:37:49.319 --> 02:37:50.399
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars of my generation.

3703
02:37:50.799 --> 02:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I was so.

3704
02:37:53.000 --> 02:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>No.

3705
02:37:53.920 --> 02:37:55.680
<v Speaker 3>No, whether you like it or not, it is the

3706
02:37:55.719 --> 02:37:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Star Wars of our generation.

3707
02:37:57.239 --> 02:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

3708
02:37:57.479 --> 02:37:59.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't like it either, but the prequels certainly weren't.

3709
02:38:00.440 --> 02:38:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's just something about the Hobbits themselves just

3710
02:38:04.639 --> 02:38:06.399
<v Speaker 2>seem to suck so aggressively.

3711
02:38:06.719 --> 02:38:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Do you like not like a grarian.

3712
02:38:09.440 --> 02:38:15.000
<v Speaker 4>What's like lifestyles like the farming cultural societies Valley. Yeah, like,

3713
02:38:15.600 --> 02:38:17.799
<v Speaker 4>I mean, like I think a lot of people they

3714
02:38:17.840 --> 02:38:19.799
<v Speaker 4>see like they're like, oh wow, these people are like

3715
02:38:19.879 --> 02:38:21.600
<v Speaker 4>of the earth and they have this kind of simple

3716
02:38:21.639 --> 02:38:23.920
<v Speaker 4>life and they find something they kind of for that.

3717
02:38:25.440 --> 02:38:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to be an old, weird hippie just fucking

3718
02:38:27.520 --> 02:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>smoking weed on a farm or something.

3719
02:38:28.879 --> 02:38:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Times.

3720
02:38:30.040 --> 02:38:31.840
<v Speaker 4>I want to live in the Shire, so goddamn it,

3721
02:38:33.399 --> 02:38:36.959
<v Speaker 4>I would get along with the Hobbits great, Yes, I agree.

3722
02:38:37.239 --> 02:38:40.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't want them as the protagonist of my action movie.

3723
02:38:40.799 --> 02:38:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Right, it's not like calling it an action movie again

3724
02:38:43.639 --> 02:38:46.680
<v Speaker 3>is missing the point, Dan, Not an action movie, not

3725
02:38:46.760 --> 02:38:47.280
<v Speaker 3>an action.

3726
02:38:47.559 --> 02:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>There's an action pitched to me? What makes the Lord

3727
02:38:50.520 --> 02:38:53.079
<v Speaker 2>of the Rings special? You have like four sentences, Max.

3728
02:38:58.280 --> 02:38:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's rough because I like Lord of the Ring.

3729
02:39:00.040 --> 02:39:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Do you like them?

3730
02:39:01.639 --> 02:39:04.520
<v Speaker 4>Yes, but I don't like I wasn't in love with them,

3731
02:39:05.000 --> 02:39:08.239
<v Speaker 4>But I think when I rewatched the extended Edition quite

3732
02:39:08.239 --> 02:39:10.760
<v Speaker 4>a few years ago, now like these are really good,

3733
02:39:10.840 --> 02:39:14.360
<v Speaker 4>but like I'll like like Avacar more so that's what

3734
02:39:14.520 --> 02:39:14.680
<v Speaker 4>I am.

3735
02:39:14.799 --> 02:39:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there is good in the world and it wants

3736
02:39:20.000 --> 02:39:24.840
<v Speaker 3>to help you, But you still have the greatest power

3737
02:39:25.360 --> 02:39:30.600
<v Speaker 3>to inflict change on the world. And also the trees

3738
02:39:30.840 --> 02:39:34.319
<v Speaker 3>can move and attack things, and that's cool, you know,

3739
02:39:34.680 --> 02:39:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Like I think the message Okay, let me just go

3740
02:39:37.479 --> 02:39:38.159
<v Speaker 3>get real with the here.

3741
02:39:38.760 --> 02:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I think the message is when you put it that way, like, yes,

3742
02:39:43.159 --> 02:39:45.760
<v Speaker 2>even the smallest, you know, little guy can can make

3743
02:39:45.799 --> 02:39:46.559
<v Speaker 2>big change in a.

3744
02:39:46.559 --> 02:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Big, scary, evil world. Yeah, that works for sure.

3745
02:39:50.639 --> 02:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if this is one of those things that

3746
02:39:55.159 --> 02:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>were when we're talking about when my opinions were formed

3747
02:39:57.799 --> 02:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and calcified about the Lord of Ring was two thousand

3748
02:40:02.280 --> 02:40:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and two to what two thousand and seven? When did

3749
02:40:04.840 --> 02:40:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Return of the Game come out?

3750
02:40:06.360 --> 02:40:10.280
<v Speaker 3>And three is just one year apart all three the bank? Yeah,

3751
02:40:10.360 --> 02:40:12.079
<v Speaker 3>just once.

3752
02:40:12.239 --> 02:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I can't think of a span of

3753
02:40:16.079 --> 02:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>time where I was a bigger asshole than those years.

3754
02:40:21.000 --> 02:40:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's probably part of because when you weren't playing

3755
02:40:23.760 --> 02:40:26.120
<v Speaker 4>an asshole, you were playing kiddie games, right.

3756
02:40:26.680 --> 02:40:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Uh no, I'm not.

3757
02:40:28.079 --> 02:40:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Playing my Ratchet Jack Kitty shit I played. Yeah, it's that,

3758
02:40:32.159 --> 02:40:33.959
<v Speaker 4>It's just that When was the last time you've seen

3759
02:40:34.000 --> 02:40:35.520
<v Speaker 4>them in the theaters?

3760
02:40:36.319 --> 02:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

3761
02:40:36.719 --> 02:40:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I thought about once and was like fuck this, and

3762
02:40:39.319 --> 02:40:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I just every time it's come up since then, I've

3763
02:40:41.319 --> 02:40:43.760
<v Speaker 2>been like fuck those and I really like I am.

3764
02:40:44.120 --> 02:40:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm a totally different person than I will.

3765
02:40:46.520 --> 02:40:48.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, probably be able to get something out of

3766
02:40:48.520 --> 02:40:51.120
<v Speaker 4>them now. And I don't think you're gonna love it, right.

3767
02:40:51.079 --> 02:40:53.680
<v Speaker 2>And Natiers in Minnesota, maybe we'll have a fucking trilogy

3768
02:40:53.760 --> 02:40:55.479
<v Speaker 2>night listen.

3769
02:40:55.520 --> 02:40:57.399
<v Speaker 4>They'll they'll be playing in a theater sometime against you.

3770
02:40:57.399 --> 02:40:58.159
<v Speaker 4>I would love to see.

3771
02:40:58.600 --> 02:41:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Talking about being in the weeds. There's a part. There

3772
02:41:00.319 --> 02:41:02.559
<v Speaker 3>was a time where I was really really into it,

3773
02:41:02.680 --> 02:41:04.479
<v Speaker 3>like when the movies were coming out, Like I was

3774
02:41:05.079 --> 02:41:06.319
<v Speaker 3>reading The Simmer really.

3775
02:41:06.280 --> 02:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Which I thought I wouldn't get the pictures of you

3776
02:41:08.920 --> 02:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>dresses Peter Jackson.

3777
02:41:09.920 --> 02:41:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Going that was that was like my that was a

3778
02:41:12.360 --> 02:41:14.520
<v Speaker 3>little that was kind of like that was me at

3779
02:41:14.559 --> 02:41:16.680
<v Speaker 3>my most in that era was the night we saw

3780
02:41:16.920 --> 02:41:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Return the King on opening day and we were all

3781
02:41:20.120 --> 02:41:21.840
<v Speaker 3>just up and I dressed as Peter Jackson.

3782
02:41:21.920 --> 02:41:24.479
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of leading every.

3783
02:41:24.319 --> 02:41:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Picture of you from like high school and stuff like

3784
02:41:27.319 --> 02:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>it just I'm not kidding.

3785
02:41:29.440 --> 02:41:32.559
<v Speaker 1>I look at that with deep respect. Yeah, yeah, he's

3786
02:41:32.559 --> 02:41:34.399
<v Speaker 1>got this pride. Yeah.

3787
02:41:34.440 --> 02:41:37.319
<v Speaker 2>I finding a man with no reservations about who he

3788
02:41:37.479 --> 02:41:39.399
<v Speaker 2>is and knows what he loves and he doesn't care

3789
02:41:39.440 --> 02:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>what the world things from and that is persistent to

3790
02:41:41.200 --> 02:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>this day.

3791
02:41:41.920 --> 02:41:43.479
<v Speaker 1>And I have deep respect for.

3792
02:41:43.760 --> 02:41:46.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, the rizzing It's funny. Is like Jeff

3793
02:41:47.000 --> 02:41:48.120
<v Speaker 3>in igh school, I wonder if you know, if we

3794
02:41:48.159 --> 02:41:49.440
<v Speaker 3>would have been friends. I don't think we would have

3795
02:41:49.440 --> 02:41:52.440
<v Speaker 3>been enemies or anything, but like, you know, his circles

3796
02:41:52.479 --> 02:41:54.920
<v Speaker 3>were seemed a little intense to what I was doing

3797
02:41:55.000 --> 02:41:55.559
<v Speaker 3>in high school.

3798
02:41:55.559 --> 02:41:56.799
<v Speaker 4>Man, I would have much been I would have been

3799
02:41:56.840 --> 02:41:58.760
<v Speaker 4>much happier being friends with you than my friends.

3800
02:42:00.040 --> 02:42:01.639
<v Speaker 3>I think me and Dan would have been a similar

3801
02:42:01.719 --> 02:42:02.719
<v Speaker 3>friend creep in.

3802
02:42:03.360 --> 02:42:05.600
<v Speaker 2>I would have totally like done my dumb that you

3803
02:42:05.799 --> 02:42:08.639
<v Speaker 2>fight a fantasy, my magic, but like we would have.

3804
02:42:08.680 --> 02:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Hung out all the time.

3805
02:42:09.440 --> 02:42:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he had a tummy friends like that. Uh yeah,

3806
02:42:13.479 --> 02:42:15.959
<v Speaker 3>Like look, I liked Star Trek a ton in high school.

3807
02:42:16.000 --> 02:42:18.959
<v Speaker 3>That's a ton of material for teasing. That was my

3808
02:42:19.120 --> 02:42:22.120
<v Speaker 3>favorite I've got I liked a lot of that INRD Ship.

3809
02:42:22.559 --> 02:42:24.799
<v Speaker 2>God you, I really do think at this point, like

3810
02:42:25.000 --> 02:42:27.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe I guess I have never really considered it until now,

3811
02:42:27.360 --> 02:42:28.959
<v Speaker 2>but like maybe I should just watch those again.

3812
02:42:29.200 --> 02:42:30.879
<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, you know, do what you want to do.

3813
02:42:31.079 --> 02:42:35.159
<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, there's a cool dude sitting in

3814
02:42:35.239 --> 02:42:38.239
<v Speaker 4>the corner of a bar, like wearing a hood, smoking

3815
02:42:38.319 --> 02:42:40.040
<v Speaker 4>a pipe, and everyone's like, what is that gun? He's

3816
02:42:40.079 --> 02:42:47.239
<v Speaker 4>a cool dude, and and uh that is you know,

3817
02:42:47.360 --> 02:42:49.719
<v Speaker 4>he's going to be the hero throughout the three films eventually,

3818
02:42:50.040 --> 02:42:52.280
<v Speaker 4>even though everyone really doing the super hard work are

3819
02:42:52.319 --> 02:42:55.000
<v Speaker 4>the hobbits and they are the emotional core. There are

3820
02:42:55.040 --> 02:42:57.079
<v Speaker 4>plenty of cool dude things happening in that movie.

3821
02:42:57.280 --> 02:42:59.399
<v Speaker 2>But I but I think I want to push myself

3822
02:42:59.440 --> 02:43:01.879
<v Speaker 2>beyond the zone of like, oh, cool dude, gilling guys,

3823
02:43:01.920 --> 02:43:05.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, do it for that, but like, yeah,

3824
02:43:05.239 --> 02:43:07.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe expand a little bit there.

3825
02:43:07.200 --> 02:43:09.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just view them all as Luke Skywalkers.

3826
02:43:09.200 --> 02:43:13.399
<v Speaker 1>That's honestly. Rocky is the closest brought me to like something.

3827
02:43:13.479 --> 02:43:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeahh god, that was so much fun. When CRE three

3828
02:43:15.959 --> 02:43:18.200
<v Speaker 3>came out, you did that Rocky wheel and I just

3829
02:43:18.760 --> 02:43:21.280
<v Speaker 3>was good. I hope they make another Rocky so we

3830
02:43:21.319 --> 02:43:22.200
<v Speaker 3>could do that again.

3831
02:43:22.280 --> 02:43:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, my next thing is that we didn't talk about

3832
02:43:24.520 --> 02:43:26.760
<v Speaker 2>the movies. I downloaded for the flight to Japan. But

3833
02:43:27.559 --> 02:43:29.799
<v Speaker 2>how's your main how'd your Maine? How'd you make?

3834
02:43:29.920 --> 02:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>No epo? Have you heard of this?

3835
02:43:31.719 --> 02:43:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

3836
02:43:31.879 --> 02:43:32.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the boxing anime?

3837
02:43:33.079 --> 02:43:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember I remember me and Gersmon does an

3838
02:43:36.200 --> 02:43:39.200
<v Speaker 2>anime panel at that anime con once and we were

3839
02:43:39.239 --> 02:43:41.399
<v Speaker 2>talking about anime and in the same type of conversations.

3840
02:43:41.399 --> 02:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Here where's like, here's why I never watched this blah

3841
02:43:42.920 --> 02:43:44.879
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. I liked Rocky, I like blah blah blah.

3842
02:43:45.079 --> 02:43:47.760
<v Speaker 2>And somebody in the crowd literally screamed, like how did.

3843
02:43:47.760 --> 02:43:50.559
<v Speaker 3>You make no? EPO is literally Rocky and.

3844
02:43:50.719 --> 02:43:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Like screamed it, and like people have recommended that forever.

3845
02:43:53.920 --> 02:43:55.959
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, I as much like shit talk anime

3846
02:43:56.000 --> 02:43:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and stuff the few anime things I've seen.

3847
02:43:58.479 --> 02:44:02.399
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. So I downloaded. It's all on Netflix.

3848
02:44:02.479 --> 02:44:05.280
<v Speaker 2>So I downloaded like so much EPO and was like,

3849
02:44:05.280 --> 02:44:07.639
<v Speaker 2>oh cool because you know what Kene Omega and Takeshta

3850
02:44:07.920 --> 02:44:11.479
<v Speaker 2>that had a recent match and awesome match and they dressed.

3851
02:44:11.239 --> 02:44:13.959
<v Speaker 1>And like it was a homage to this, like oh wow,

3852
02:44:14.000 --> 02:44:16.479
<v Speaker 1>okay match. So it's like I should watch that.

3853
02:44:16.639 --> 02:44:20.399
<v Speaker 4>Sports animes apparently are all very good. I've been meaning

3854
02:44:20.440 --> 02:44:20.799
<v Speaker 4>to watch that.

3855
02:44:20.959 --> 02:44:21.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

3856
02:44:22.280 --> 02:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I like conventions.

3857
02:44:23.159 --> 02:44:26.040
<v Speaker 3>We should do more. There's there's that Midwest Gaming Classic

3858
02:44:26.159 --> 02:44:29.520
<v Speaker 3>in Milwaukee. It happened, uh yeah April fifth, and I'm

3859
02:44:29.559 --> 02:44:32.079
<v Speaker 3>like it wasn't that. I thought that was fun.

3860
02:44:32.520 --> 02:44:36.040
<v Speaker 4>Too many games in Philadelphia's apparently a pretty popular one.

3861
02:44:36.920 --> 02:44:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Look into that one.

3862
02:44:37.719 --> 02:44:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I've always wanted to do the the Midwest gaming

3863
02:44:40.360 --> 02:44:42.559
<v Speaker 2>classical thing, but it's always like WrestleMania Weekend or whatever,

3864
02:44:42.600 --> 02:44:43.399
<v Speaker 2>and this year it wasn't.

3865
02:44:43.440 --> 02:44:46.079
<v Speaker 1>But I was in New York, so it's yeah, sure,

3866
02:44:46.159 --> 02:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>let's keep that on our radar.

3867
02:44:47.239 --> 02:44:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I would love to do that. It's like retrosaurs and stuff. Yeah, alright, well, ship,

3868
02:44:54.000 --> 02:44:54.799
<v Speaker 2>that's a podcast.

3869
02:44:54.840 --> 02:44:55.360
<v Speaker 3>God damn it.

3870
02:44:55.479 --> 02:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I talked to you guys all the time every week,

3871
02:44:58.479 --> 02:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you never run out of talk about it

3872
02:45:01.479 --> 02:45:02.280
<v Speaker 1>was always a pleasure.

3873
02:45:02.399 --> 02:45:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeap, yep, folks, if you're if you're just learning somehow

3874
02:45:06.399 --> 02:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>of Jeff Grevin, Mike Manatti, let's just plug everything, fellas, please.

3875
02:45:11.000 --> 02:45:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. What do we do, well, Jeff and I We

3876
02:45:13.399 --> 02:45:15.559
<v Speaker 3>do game mess the side. That's kind of our big

3877
02:45:15.719 --> 02:45:18.319
<v Speaker 3>weekly show where we catch up on the news. We

3878
02:45:18.399 --> 02:45:21.559
<v Speaker 3>always play a game of some sort, like the Mount

3879
02:45:21.680 --> 02:45:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Rushmore of of apes and video games or fun things

3880
02:45:26.799 --> 02:45:27.520
<v Speaker 3>like they do that one.

3881
02:45:27.680 --> 02:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, George Washington of course.

3882
02:45:30.719 --> 02:45:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, of course. And then we have a Nintendo

3883
02:45:33.000 --> 02:45:36.079
<v Speaker 3>focused podcast called Last of the nintend Dogs. We do

3884
02:45:36.200 --> 02:45:39.399
<v Speaker 3>that on Tuesdays. We have a Patreon for that stuff

3885
02:45:39.440 --> 02:45:42.520
<v Speaker 3>and it gives you some bonuses, like our show about Colombo,

3886
02:45:42.680 --> 02:45:44.920
<v Speaker 3>because we like that in the seventies Detective show a lot.

3887
02:45:45.319 --> 02:45:48.440
<v Speaker 3>That patreon is that patreon dot com slash gay mess.

3888
02:45:48.719 --> 02:45:50.600
<v Speaker 3>We are all on giant bombs you brought up. I

3889
02:45:50.639 --> 02:45:53.799
<v Speaker 3>also do a show with my brothers about Disney. I

3890
02:45:54.239 --> 02:45:56.959
<v Speaker 3>love Disney. I love theme parks, so we talk about

3891
02:45:57.000 --> 02:46:00.440
<v Speaker 3>that on nineties Disney nine zero s Disney.

3892
02:46:00.600 --> 02:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>If you have any.

3893
02:46:01.600 --> 02:46:05.479
<v Speaker 3>Interest in that world, it's a very I love that

3894
02:46:05.680 --> 02:46:08.680
<v Speaker 3>world because even less so than wrestling, I felt like

3895
02:46:08.680 --> 02:46:12.280
<v Speaker 3>there's a big crossover of wrestling and video games. Right,

3896
02:46:13.159 --> 02:46:15.319
<v Speaker 3>Disney is kind of off in its own island. There's

3897
02:46:15.360 --> 02:46:18.360
<v Speaker 3>a bit of it, but it's I like how separate

3898
02:46:18.360 --> 02:46:20.120
<v Speaker 3>it is from the video game fandom.

3899
02:46:20.200 --> 02:46:25.159
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the podcast you guys do are excellent, And it

3900
02:46:25.479 --> 02:46:27.920
<v Speaker 2>took this long, but there's finally a video game podcast

3901
02:46:28.000 --> 02:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I like to listen to, and you two guys. I

3902
02:46:30.639 --> 02:46:32.159
<v Speaker 2>joined in while you guys are doing the live show

3903
02:46:32.200 --> 02:46:35.399
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesdays and Thursdays and excellent, excellent stuff.

3904
02:46:35.479 --> 02:46:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, I really do love the show. I listened to

3905
02:46:37.840 --> 02:46:39.920
<v Speaker 3>this I look forward to it every two weeks.

3906
02:46:39.959 --> 02:46:41.280
<v Speaker 4>I think it was like a couple weeks ago, like

3907
02:46:41.319 --> 02:46:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Mike's like, oh Mike listens, They're like, oh yeah, and

3908
02:46:43.360 --> 02:46:44.840
<v Speaker 4>I was in my car like, oh yeah, I do.

3909
02:46:46.719 --> 02:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>It's great.

3910
02:46:47.840 --> 02:46:50.639
<v Speaker 3>It's great. So yeah, and it's always fun when we

3911
02:46:50.760 --> 02:46:53.680
<v Speaker 3>get to hop in here. But looking forward to hearing

3912
02:46:53.719 --> 02:46:55.239
<v Speaker 3>from Mike and Mary again soon.

3913
02:46:55.879 --> 02:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely they we will all be on an episode the

3914
02:46:59.200 --> 02:46:59.639
<v Speaker 1>next time.

3915
02:47:00.079 --> 02:47:02.200
<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, check us out on Patreon that

3916
02:47:02.319 --> 02:47:06.399
<v Speaker 2>is firescape dot com, slash wait fires Oh yeah, Firescape

3917
02:47:06.399 --> 02:47:06.760
<v Speaker 2>dot com.

3918
02:47:07.239 --> 02:47:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Usually Mike does this, so this is my first time.

3919
02:47:09.440 --> 02:47:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Fire Escape dot Com or Patreon dot com slash fire Escape.

3920
02:47:14.559 --> 02:47:16.239
<v Speaker 2>You can join in as an ad free tier. For

3921
02:47:16.280 --> 02:47:19.159
<v Speaker 2>the audio video tier, we've been doing more video stuff

3922
02:47:19.319 --> 02:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>and Mike and Vinnie from Next Lander have been doing

3923
02:47:21.280 --> 02:47:22.760
<v Speaker 2>a warhammer gimmick over there.

3924
02:47:22.680 --> 02:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>That's really fun.

3925
02:47:23.719 --> 02:47:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

3926
02:47:24.159 --> 02:47:26.479
<v Speaker 2>And you can also give us a smaller pledge amount

3927
02:47:26.479 --> 02:47:28.319
<v Speaker 2>as a tip jar if you'd like. It goes directly

3928
02:47:28.399 --> 02:47:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to the three of us.

3929
02:47:29.840 --> 02:47:31.959
<v Speaker 1>Uh. Yeah, that's about it.

3930
02:47:32.120 --> 02:47:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Check out fire Escape on socials, check out Mike and

3931
02:47:35.719 --> 02:47:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Grub on Blue Sky, Twitter, anything in particular.

3932
02:47:39.639 --> 02:47:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Sky the says Tokoto I'm Tokoto everywhere. No, I'm not

3933
02:47:43.319 --> 02:47:44.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna tell you what that means.

3934
02:47:44.840 --> 02:47:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, Joe he knows, Sojo does actually know. Joe is

3935
02:47:50.760 --> 02:47:53.559
<v Speaker 2>signing it like wrestle con Like, what's Tolkoto mean?

3936
02:47:54.239 --> 02:47:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Did you hear about the penguin? Dan?

3937
02:47:56.079 --> 02:47:56.360
<v Speaker 1>What's that?

3938
02:47:57.399 --> 02:47:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Somebody? Uh so a listener like is working at a

3939
02:48:00.079 --> 02:48:01.719
<v Speaker 3>zoo or something and they're trying to you have to

3940
02:48:01.840 --> 02:48:04.840
<v Speaker 3>name a baby penguin, and he floated out Tolkoto and

3941
02:48:04.879 --> 02:48:07.760
<v Speaker 3>apparently people like it. So maybe a penguin's gonna mean

3942
02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:09.319
<v Speaker 3>named Tolkota.

3943
02:48:08.920 --> 02:48:10.799
<v Speaker 2>As long as they don't know the context. I think

3944
02:48:10.840 --> 02:48:12.360
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a great penguin name.

3945
02:48:12.760 --> 02:48:15.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And I'll tell you what. I'm gonna go

3946
02:48:15.200 --> 02:48:15.920
<v Speaker 3>visit this penguin.

3947
02:48:15.959 --> 02:48:18.879
<v Speaker 1>If that happened, you are a picture with the Tolkota penguin.

3948
02:48:19.799 --> 02:48:20.280
<v Speaker 3>My son.

3949
02:48:22.799 --> 02:48:27.600
<v Speaker 4>The family name lives on, all right, Grubb.

3950
02:48:27.360 --> 02:48:29.920
<v Speaker 2>And Mitch, thank you so much for next and thank

3951
02:48:29.959 --> 02:48:32.200
<v Speaker 2>You's a pleasure, and thanks everyone for listening.

3952
02:48:32.719 --> 02:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh, we will see you all in a couple of weeks.

3953
02:48:36.239 --> 02:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Bye bye