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Speaker 1: Folks at home.

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Speaker 2: As you can tell, this is not the voice of

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one Michael James Maharty.

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Speaker 1: No, this is Dan Reichert.

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Speaker 2: Mike Maharty, based on his most recent Instagram story, is

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looking at maps of the Champagne region of France. I'm

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not kidding. That is his most recent Instagram story is

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he got new books about the Champagne region of France

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and he.

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Speaker 1: Is pouring over the maps.

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Speaker 2: Mary is working, she's a professional, she's doing a traveling

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for work right now. But I've lost my co host here.

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I've lost my good friends Mike and Mary. But you

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know what they say, when you lose your co host

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on a podcast, You look to your blood. You look

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to the click, You look to the Blake Club. That's right,

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that we'll grub that was you're doing the nWo guitar.

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Speaker 1: That was actually a DX reference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna mix our metaphors here.

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Speaker 2: Mike, Mary aren't here. So my fifty percent wrestling rule

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is off the table. So it's rub bonanza. You don't

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don't stop it. They're all scrambling in their cars to

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hit stop on this.

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Speaker 4: They're just driving off of cliffs right now. Well, then

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that's the fascinating to WrestleMania.

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Speaker 3: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: This is the roadblock, brother, Okay, this is this is

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the one rest people get for me talking about wrestling.

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I will attempt to honor that on the vire Escape

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cast here despite it being literally WrestleMania week.

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Speaker 4: How could this is cruel and unusual? I would say, fellas, Yeah, hey,

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don't don't blame us. We're not gonna hold you do that.

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I don't care if you break your rule.

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Speaker 3: It's almost a part of me that's like, this is

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like really old, growing up Catholic stuff. And I'm like,

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they could just do WrestleMania on Eastern. Yeah, Like that's

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a loud out.

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Speaker 2: About being you know, many beautiful things about growing up Catholic.

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I think getting like ninety days off for Easter was good.

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A lot you got. You got your good Fridays, got

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your silly Saturdays, you got whatever Easter is.

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Speaker 1: They don't have Monday. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Did you get a separate spring break?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah I think so. Yeah. Yeah. School sometimes days

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blended together. I don't know, there's all sorts of stuff.

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We just went to church one day a week.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday was my Mass day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can't remember you just kind of sat

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there and like it was, you know, church was pretty

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good compared to class, so you kind of took that

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and stride.

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Speaker 2: It was tough for me because in class I would

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like doodle a lot. I got the office for doodling

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mortal combat fatalities and stuff like that, and I kid

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you not, what this is probably incredibly sacrilegious. What I

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did to pastime in mass was because I couldn't doodle

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and I just had severe add as a child. And

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I would just look around at all the stained glass

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and you would see like, oh, here's all the signs

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of the Cross. Here's this guy helping Jesus carry the cross.

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Here's you know, these dudes putting them up on the cross.

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Speaker 3: Sam.

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Speaker 1: Sam?

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Speaker 2: Was that the guy's name who helped Jesus with the Christ?

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Was he the guy who wiped his face with the

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shroud of turn?

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Speaker 4: I think it was specifically, like who helped him with

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the cross? I'm sorry, crosscar Derek was the other guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I would just look around at all because I

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always let stained glass looked cool as hell, and I was,

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and I would just picture all of them coming to

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life and jumping out and causing the scene, like if

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you've seen an End of Days, it's almost like this

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huge like fight inside of a church with like all

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of these Catholic and religious figures and stuff fighting it out,

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and basically it's his Mortal kmbat, Like this is the

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period of my life where everything was Mortal Kombat.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Simon, by the way, it was Simon, not

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sam I was close.

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Speaker 2: There were uh who were the signs of the cross?

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He fell down, he needed help getting up, he had

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to have his face wiped.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, where did it start? Did it literally start?

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Speaker 4: Like we won't talk about wrestling, everybody back to what

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really matters.

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Speaker 2: We got an email saying, hey, I listened to Firescape

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for games talk, not for political agendas, which confused me.

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Speaker 1: But let's get into religion.

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Speaker 3: This is what they really Let's rank the religions of

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the world. That's my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, honestly, And I said honestly instead of for shoot,

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I stopped myself.

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Speaker 3: Look at me. I disgusting.

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Speaker 2: No, Jesus like I went to Catholic school. I grew

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up here in Catholic school.

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Speaker 4: You went to school with Jesus?

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Speaker 1: No, I knows day eighties, nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 2: I don't like Jesus got arrested right or like put

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to death, but like I couldn't. I'm trying to think

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right now what he got like arrested for by the.

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Speaker 3: Well, the big thing was he went into so so

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they turned the church into a market, right that people

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are just saying something.

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Speaker 1: He flipped the tables.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so hey flipped the tables and he freaked out

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and he got mad. So like there they're all real

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happy like him. Now, yes, yes, let's get the tables

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assignmon It's like, okay, now we actually got him for

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a for a real crime. I almost said she they

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got him for a crime, so they were real excited.

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had a pretty good point. But I always laughed because

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so many churches now mega churches, even some nice just

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Catholic ones, have gift shops, and I'm like, man, this

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is specifically the thing that Jesus like got really mad

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at that one time.

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Speaker 2: I remember, during high school, I wrote when I was

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really getting into my student films and stuff that I

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was making, I wrote a short film called the Jesus Project,

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and it was about Jesus coming back and it was

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about just him reacting to I guess that was.

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Speaker 4: The name of Trump's political platform, I think, right, yes.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Project twenty five. Yeah, and it was about like, oh,

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him just reacting. It was like a comedy, but it

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was about him reacting to like, you know, it was

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like nineteen ninety nine probably when I with this, and

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but it was very you know, well, he gets like

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I think he gets addicted to heroin or something.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like I remember my mom.

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Speaker 2: I was telling my mom about this, and despite the

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fact that I've never heard her talk about Jesus or

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church or anything religious whatsoever, she was very much just like,

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we don't believe that in this household, and like, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Very offended that you But I think it's because she

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was married to a guy at the time. It was

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very Catholic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oddly enough, I also wrote my own thing about

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Jesus coming back in high school. It's called Jesus. It

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was called Jesus to the musical. Yeah, I don't remember much.

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One song went like It's a wonderful Morning for Jesus

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something like that. I still had that one.

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Speaker 4: All of the weird that you both share starts here

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it's all school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to Catholic school. There's not a lot

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of me and my keys. I don't know, man.

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, you guys definitely don't or stand out even

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from that crowd. But boy, something happened there.

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Speaker 2: Oh uh oh man, and other things about this is

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a good guy, this is Dan, this is my dad's

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high school best friend. And Katie and Kaylea, my sister's dad.

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I grew up with him. Great dude, but very Catholic.

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I just remember every once in a while it would

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come out, even though we never, you know, prayed, we

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never went to church or anything. Remember I liked the

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movie seven when it came out, and he was deeply

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upset that I liked that. He's like that is it

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really disturbs me that you liked that movie. And then

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the other one was we would always play Twisted Metal

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two campaign mode together and at one point I learned

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the code. It was called sell your Soul, and you

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would type in a certain and you would sell all

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your weapons for health. And so I was like dying

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during the minion fight and I was like, I'm gonna

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sell my soul and he paused, put the controller down,

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and he said Danny, I don't ever want to hear

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you say that ever again.

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Speaker 3: It was like, oh no, yeah, well I remember. And

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another song from Jesus to the musical it's called cult Terrific.

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It goes it's called terrific. You know what we mean.

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It's called terrific. Our heads are shafe clean, it's called terrific.

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A barrel of fun it's called terrific. And a cachet

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of guns.

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Speaker 2: Wait, Jesus comes back and starts he starts a cult,

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starts a new cult because he's unhappy with the current

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Speaker 3: Not enough guns, not enough guns. Yeah, yeah, right exactly,

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so I forget what the yeah something about him just

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starting a new new cult, and it got kind of

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violent and weird.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where the plot went.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, it came out.

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Speaker 4: In a lot of weird ways. Was the main antagonist

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Speaker 1: Of weird ways.

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Speaker 3: Because we also had a fake we had to make

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a fake band for a different school projects and we

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called ours Last Rites. It was just mostly kind of

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weird religious songs. The one I wrote was a song

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about burning the Bible. It's called the Bible burns Better.

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proud of the Bible burns better. The chorus was fire,

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fire down to every letter, and the dark of the night,

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the Bible burns better. It's your dark desire, be a

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trendsetter when your soul is cold. The Bible burns better tonight.

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It's pretty good, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but Mike, I have to ask for those listening

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to the audio. Whenever Mike is singing this, he's looking

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Speaker 3: When he's reading a Google duck.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a document of the script?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know why. It's just a sweet you. No,

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I don't know why I'm looking to him. I actually

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I am, despite what you might think. I am actually

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just slightly embarrassed. And I can't look at you.

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Speaker 1: Why that's.

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Speaker 3: Shame.

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Speaker 1: There is little bit no audible.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I could probably do the verses for Bible Birds better

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if I would.

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Speaker 2: Wait.

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Speaker 4: It's not a Christian rock band, but like, no, it's not.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd call it.

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Speaker 4: I want to call it that either, but it's like it's,

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you know, somewhere in between a project.

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Speaker 3: We had to sing the one song called Heaven a Blake.

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We just went to Heaven and fought a bunch of angels.

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We performed that one in class and we got an A.

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Not in Catholic class, right, No, this was public high school.

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I switched after fourth grade. Oh God, I bet, yeah,

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I bet If it was Catholic high school, they would

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not have liked it.

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Speaker 2: That was the end of my singing career was Catholic school,

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because we had to do the Christmas program every year,

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and like, the main thing they teach you every time

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is don't lock your knees because you're gonna pass out

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and make us all look like idiots in a church.

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Christmas programs, like don't lock your fucking knees. But yeah,

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a lot of silent Night, a lot of this is

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the day that the Lord has made that.

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Speaker 1: Type of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I remember mine first or second grade, and at

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the time, my dad was listening to a ton of

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Bob Dylan, and he always had me listening to a

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Bob Dylan so to kind of like pop the classmates

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what are you doing? Like you're you're sounding like I'm

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doing a Bob Dylan impression, and she like I got

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in trouble. And then I was like thinking my friends

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would think I was cool, and they were like, what

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the fuck is.

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like Bob Dylan.

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Speaker 3: Is could just said it was what Tom Petty, who

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kind of sounds like Bob doing Anyways.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know seven year old.

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Speaker 3: No, that's still probably pretty of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, you uh, Janet Reno came up as she's

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want to do Remember when that was like the craziest

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political thing in the world, like on SNL, like the

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wackiest political figure you will retire.

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Speaker 3: You're promised, you promised that emo.

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Speaker 1: You were going to.

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Speaker 2: Talk about get my political agenda across that podcasts.

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Speaker 4: We are so pro Reno, Janet Reno. I want her

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to just run Reno Mania on this country once again. Look,

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I probably not I do.

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Speaker 3: Just think about the things that used to be big

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political controversies in the nineties. We got let's do old bow, Yeah,

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had a blow job in the nineties, like Obama wearing

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the tan suit like that was well, like the biggest

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concerned about was Bill Clinton's blow job, uh Ellen, degenerous,

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being gay in O. J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson.

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Speaker 3: Those were like the three things.

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Speaker 4: The holy trinity of the nineties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, what was the thing? It wasn't water Gate,

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it wasn't water World. What was the Whitewater? Whitewater.

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politics through Mad Magazine, and Whitewater would come up all

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the time on Letterman and stuff, and it was like

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a land deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right.

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like anything. Uh So, yeah, I think it was probably

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one of those ones where they were just trying to

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trump it up because they were so always trying to

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go after When.

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Speaker 3: He said trump it up, what did you mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that one.

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Speaker 3: Shit, I think that's a different meaning.

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Speaker 2: Now have you ever seen the clip from like the

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two thousands where Norm McDonald is on the view and

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somehow one of the Clintons comes up and Norm out

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of nowhere. It's like, oh, yeah, you know the story

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about like when the Clinton's killed a guy right just

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in the daytime like joy Bay and be like oh,

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and Norm's like, no, no, he killed a guy.

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Speaker 1: Let it go.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking the other day, like it used to

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be like this thing and all, like the sitcoms and

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TV shows are just in general, like the biggest source

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of pride for parents as if their child became the

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president of the United States, And I'm like, oh, that's

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like the last thing I would want to like it

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just like even if you were a good president United States,

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you know how many deaths he would be responsible for

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technically your call, Like no, I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like the bar for good is way warped to like

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I like Obama a lot, but he's definitely killed the people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all sorts of people. And it's like that's

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what makes it disturbing because you look at Obamba, he's

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like he like likes thro lean into the memes and

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he has a bit of this like warm figure. He's

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like still killed so many people.

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Speaker 4: But that that thing what I think of is Marge

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wanting Bart to be a Supreme Court the Supreme Court justice,

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like and uh, and then he fails in her dream

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and then has to become like a Supreme Court justice

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themed a stripper.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got that like stubble and they do

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the great thing where it's like his spikes on his

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hair are kind of like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's got the big beer belly like Homer.

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Speaker 2: It's very funny. Yeah, like curling pistols or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, got it.

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Speaker 2: Love being on this podcast with people that appreciate the

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fucking Simpsons, and Mary absolutely does. I'm talking directly about

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Mike Mahardy.

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Speaker 4: Well, we could probably we could just edit some wine

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into it and then probably get him on board.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you know what, we were sharing some stuff today.

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We we did find someone who was, as I put it,

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Mike Mahardy if he wasn't so.

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Speaker 3: Aware, Yeah, that's so fun. Thing turns out.

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Speaker 2: The self awareness is a critical critical Do you need that?

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Speaker 4: You do? I need important? Got where she had it.

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Speaker 3: I think Maharty was doing trying to do my voice

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two episodes ago on here and I want to do

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a Mike Maharty impression, but he has a pretty normal

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voice unfortunately, got a.

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Speaker 2: Very no he's got they always have like alien and

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trailer and uh it's a little bit of JFK issues affectations. Yeah,

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you got that East Coast fancy boy thing. Going on, Yeah, sure,

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it was very fair.

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Speaker 3: There's gotta be a Simpsons episode about wine, right, there's

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a zillion.

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Speaker 2: Episcourse they do go to aust Well, the astroliy one

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is just like the frog stuff and everything like.

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Speaker 3: The frog and there's the bit about you know beer, right.

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Speaker 4: Is there a lacrosse episode? I bet there's a lacrosse episode.

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Speaker 2: I mean at this point, I imagine anything we haven't

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seen happen between like seasons twelve and one hundred and sixteen,

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you know that no one has seen and I don't

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even know.

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Speaker 4: It gets really good again at one hundred and twelve.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying that.

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Speaker 3: You see that it got renewed for five more seasons

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like a main cast by like I'm the waiting morbid.

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Speaker 4: Of them dies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then do you think they actually float the

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AI thing?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh god, well did you.

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Speaker 2: See there's a clip? I don't know if there's the

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birds or who. But Frank Azaria. They brought him in

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and had him record a bunch of lines into like

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an AI thing as MO, and they had had the

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AI Mo read jokes back to Hanks Err and him

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kind of criticizing. I'm just being like, no, you can

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make it sound kind of like the boys, but like

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the timing and all the human stuff is what you

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absolutely can't do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh gosh, I I hate so much that like

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I am, you know, getting her forty and I am

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becoming a everything's kind of getting worse as I get

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older person, because I know every every generation has done

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that for so long. Well boy, some things are getting worse.

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Speaker 4: Like everyone's like, okay, yeah, it's the broken clock situation.

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I think we happen to be right because like they

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they like, it's one generation she took all the wealth

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and kept it for themselves and it made everything else worse.

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Speaker 2: Let's try to be good old guys about this, okay,

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because I think it is kind of for all of us.

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talk about real world stuff and wealth and things like that,

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like there's some very legitimate stuff there, but I feel

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like so much the time, it's like, oh, a generation

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thinks Elvis is going to corrupt the mind.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna gat video games are gonna rot your brain.

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Speaker 3: And then the.

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Speaker 1: Stuff like you know, every white.

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Speaker 2: Dude from the Midwest over fifty five seeing like Kendrick

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Klamarr and be like, ah, this isn't music. You know.

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Speaker 4: That it always goes down right, It's always the kids

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are ruining the things I like, and it's like, well,

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that's not what's happening.

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Speaker 2: So can we parse out, like what is objectively bad

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about the kids and the times with the youths? Sure?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the AI suff's bad and less people

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like I will say this. I don't think the Minecraft

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movie or excuse me, a Minecraft movie, the a Minecraft movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think movie.

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Speaker 4: Let's call it a mincraft movie. I don't think a

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Minecraft movie is destroyed art as we know it.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: When I saw the Mario Brothers movie the nineties one,

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I told my dad in the parking lot that that

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was the best movie I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Like stupid fucking taste and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that my objectively sucks, but I don't think

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it's a problem.

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Speaker 4: I think I said that about Double Dragon to my

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parents when me and Jason, my brother, were walking out,

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and made my whole family go see it when we

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were on vacation to see my brother who was in

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the army, and like one of the few hours he

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had to spend with us. We made him watch Double

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fucking Dragon in the theater and we're walking out be

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like that ruled in my family in pain.

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Speaker 3: When I saw Minecraft, because my nephew nieces let me

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go with them, I was just like, you know, my

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parents had to see the Power Ridgers movie. I'm sure

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they did not care about that.

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Speaker 4: That movie's pretty good though.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't bad though, got hitting the nuts at the end,

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right that do guy. He had that great light about

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missing the Monsters reunion or so that was, Yeah, that

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was pretty good. Actually, they probably.

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Speaker 1: Liked that well.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I did that video a while back

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with my dad and me at the fire talking about everything,

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and he was talking. We were talking about like worst

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movies they've seen, and my dad is like Shark Boy

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and Lava Girl. I remember I had to take the

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girls to that like when they were kids, and like,

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oh Shark But clearly this is a movie made for kids.

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I'm sure it's yeah for my dad, But like grub,

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if you had that experience with their kids where it's

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like they're excited about a movie and you are just

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hating every second of it.

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Speaker 4: No, I think a big thing that has happened in

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the last uh well, I mean, your dad's not that home,

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but like the last twenty years is the generation gap

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has gotten a lot smaller, Like we just aren't shedding

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the things from our youth, and the stuff from our

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youth is like pretty similar to all the stuff the

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kids are into. Like, you know, my kids will go

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from one minute watching the bullshit on YouTube, which is

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the strange stuff now, like the Shark Boys and Lava

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Girls are unboxing videos and little girls making stories with

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their toys and putting up on YouTube and it has

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fifteen billion views and stuff like that. I'm like, I

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don't know, all this stuff is kind of interesting. I

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think it'll give my kids cool perspectives and like cool

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ideas about how to create stuff. And then they'll go

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from that to watching you know, tonight they're like, hey,

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I want to watch Kieky's Delivery Service, so like they're

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watching me azaki. I'm like, okay, yeah, and they're like

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I kind of just let let them go where they

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want to, and they, you know, they oscillate between some

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real terrible bullshit that you know, doesn't really bother me

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because I have a high tolerance for that stuff and

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then back toward something very cool. So I'm like, Okay,

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they got like a nice wide consumption here that I

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think is going to do them all right in their

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lives lives.

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Speaker 2: I would assume that that's maybe not a common case.

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I'm sure a lot are just like you know, garbage

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kid tastes. They're like, you know, like Dylan Backlars, Oh

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well yeah, h Backlarer is interested.

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Speaker 1: In blueprints and zeld and stuff.

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Speaker 2: I look, and he's probably a market Yeah, he's probably all.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, I think they're kind of like that, Jeff.

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We're like, they'll still you know, for us, like of

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course they have easy access to audible Disney stuff and

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they'll still watch that. I like it. But they absolutely

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want to watch their YouTube junk. And hey, I'm sure

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that that YouTube junk to me isn't too different than

476
00:20:56,599 --> 00:20:59,799
what early nick toms seemed like to my parents, right,

477
00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:01,759
Ren and simpy that probably.

478
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 4: Slime or like yeah nicktoons, or that you can't do

479
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,720
that on television all that stuff, like what are yeah,

480
00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:09,240
what is this weird gross stuff?

481
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: Happy joy joy? Yeah right, like nonsense, Yeah, it seemed

482
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,160
like it. Probably they they're probably were convinced, even though

483
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,920
they may not have really cared, we watch it and

484
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,160
let us watch it, they're probably convinced. This probably isn't

485
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,279
good for them.

486
00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:22,759
Speaker 4: Right, I mean even like the you know, the the

487
00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:26,319
he Mans and the cartoon the cartoons that are just commercials.

488
00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:27,799
It's like, well, that is a lot of stuff that

489
00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:30,559
the kids have now, And I'm like, I don't feel

490
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,160
like that stuff really damaged me in any real way, Like, yeah,

491
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,000
having commercial shoved in your brain non stop, that there

492
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,079
probably was something. But they have way less commercials in

493
00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:41,039
their life. And then sure a lot of the content

494
00:21:41,039 --> 00:21:43,680
they're absorbing is stuff that is made to sell them

495
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,960
stuff and that like that's how those people make money.

496
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,960
But we do limit their exposure to that somewhat. And

497
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,480
then uh, yeah, they're just not getting regular commercials at

498
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,839
all anymore. They don't have that at any point in

499
00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:55,279
their lives.

500
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Speaker 2: That is one of my favorite weird Like, you know,

501
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,319
my dad has a million weird old man things. What

502
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,000
of him is He's like bitter that the kids today,

503
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,079
millennials don't know commercials because he'll ask me like, oh,

504
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,079
have you seen that State Farm commercial with them?

505
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Be like, no, Dad, I haven't seen like, oh, that's right, dude,

506
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,400
don't see commercials.

507
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 4: He's upset that they made Jake from State Farm black.

508
00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: Is that what it is? You know? Yep, No, this is.

509
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: Very better that we're not all smoking cigarettes and watching

510
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,079
commercials all the time.

511
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: But what is it about.

512
00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:29,839
Speaker 2: There was a shift between like our parents generation and

513
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,599
our generation because you see, like like with our parents generation,

514
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,839
I feel like, you know, they're not obsessing over like

515
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,640
fucking Magilla Gorilla in twenty twenty five and there's not

516
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,960
new you know, like Captain Kangaroo movies and stuff. I

517
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,960
think with nostalgia. With our parents generation, you bring something

518
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,279
up and you're like, oh, I used to watch that

519
00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:48,880
all the time, and like us three on this fucking

520
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,880
wowd CRTs and Genesis games and shit, well.

521
00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:54,279
Speaker 3: Don't forget. In the nineties, like there was like the

522
00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:58,400
Brady Bunch movie, the Flintstones movie, the Adams Family movie.

523
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:01,720
Like I and I think we actually are cresting Chris

524
00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:03,880
for a while, and when we were in our thirties,

525
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,720
they were really catering to our nostalgia. A lot of

526
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,839
that stuff came back, was remastered, had new sequels, even

527
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,319
things like Beatles Juice recently. I do think that that's

528
00:23:16,319 --> 00:23:19,079
going to maybe start dying down where we're going to

529
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,640
be like, they're bringing that thing back. But I didn't

530
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,400
care about that because that happened in the twenty tens

531
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,279
or whatever.

532
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're trying to I think that's actually

533
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,640
the generation gap shrinking. I think they're finding more fruit

534
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,759
from like video game adaptations because it hits us and

535
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,400
kids right, and so they can like get more more

536
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920
juice from the squeeze there as opposed to you know

537
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,440
that the millennials are the biggest generation in the United

538
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,440
States that's ever seen, and that we were gonna have

539
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:46,599
like once you know, that previous generation dies, a lot

540
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:48,160
of that welth's going to come down. So they are

541
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,759
going to keep catering to us in a lot of

542
00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:52,000
really like awful ways that are going to be pretty gross.

543
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,759
Because their corporation sin it's all they can do. But

544
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:56,640
I think for now they're like, oh, hey, this video

545
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,319
game stuff kind of hits all these four quadrants and stuff,

546
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:00,759
so we'll get a lot of that for a while.

547
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,319
Speaker 3: Some of it is just like people have franchises and

548
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,559
they guess they think they got to do something with it.

549
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,519
When I saw the Minecraft movie. Excuse me a Minecraft movie?

550
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,839
Speaker 4: A Minecraft movie.

551
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: Be a Minecraft movie. They had a trailer for a

552
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,079
new Smurf movie and that already had got rebooted in

553
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:22,440
the twenty elevens. They made like three of them. There's

554
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,559
no one new new reboots and Rihanna is Smurf FETs

555
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,279
and it's just a cartoon. Again. I'm like, who cares

556
00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:31,960
about the Smurfs? But here it is.

557
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:38,519
Speaker 4: What what Zindia was Michi? What was that? That's her

558
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:41,160
character in a movie? I think I just Zindia is

559
00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:41,640
me Chi?

560
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,519
Speaker 3: That was? And there was a DreamWorks movie about like

561
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,400
Yetti's or something. Right, it is something beyond the name

562
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:49,960
of a character.

563
00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:53,279
Speaker 4: It's just the name of a character. It was okay, No,

564
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,319
there was a guy that makes viral videos and he

565
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,519
sang a song where he saw the sign. It's just

566
00:24:57,559 --> 00:24:59,400
like he thought it was a funny phrase, and so

567
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,200
he sang a whole song about Zendaiah is me Chi

568
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,039
and so yeah, that's that became a meme on its own.

569
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: I see, yeah, okay.

570
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: But the Spurfs.

571
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Who cares?

572
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: How's that? But yeah, something's come back?

573
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,319
Speaker 2: Like Garfield had a new movie. Why why we kiss

574
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:14,559
about Car's original run. Was that the nineties or was

575
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:15,480
that already an old thing then?

576
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: I think that was like an early eighties thing maybe, well,

577
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,119
because that's weird.

578
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: It's like some of the shit that was actively on

579
00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:24,720
TV in my you, like in the late eighties early nineties,

580
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:27,119
like Looney Tunes was always fucking off well, and it

581
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,359
would be like Copyright nineteen sixty three.

582
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,839
Speaker 3: Because we lived in the cable explosion, so there was

583
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,799
suddenly a lot more airtime, airtime to fill, and syndication

584
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,119
was the way they did. So that's why we had

585
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,839
Nick at Night. That's why I grew up watching a

586
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:42,240
ton of Flintstones and things like that. And I love

587
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,759
Lucy right, So it is why.

588
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,599
Speaker 4: I think it's why to the younger millennials we do

589
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,839
sometimes seem older than we are because we are very

590
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,559
well versed in happy days.

591
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah some days, Mary.

592
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,279
Speaker 2: Tyler Moore, it was with Nick at Knight because like,

593
00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:01,039
I was obsessed with Nickelodeon, But when Nick Knight came on,

594
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,440
I think in my head, I was like, this is

595
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,279
old stuff, except for I watched The Witch because I

596
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:08,519
had a crush on the Witch. Now, she's a very

597
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:11,799
pretty lady. Yes, seven year old was like, something's going

598
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:12,160
on here?

599
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, she did that thing with her nose. Yeah. I

600
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:16,319
like to the genie more than the Witch, I gotta

601
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,799
be honest.

602
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:21,039
Speaker 1: Well, I also did the Gilligan's Island for probably similar reasons.

603
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tolkin's Island was great. Then they had all those

604
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,559
TV movies where they had to recast Marianne or something

605
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,279
because of drama. How many TV movies There's three, and

606
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,039
the last one was Gilligan's Island meets the Harlem Globe Trotter.

607
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,960
Is this the kind of thing wheref I search us

608
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,880
on YouTube, I'll find like seven, like eight hour long

609
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,960
documentaries about these things? I hope so, because gosh, I

610
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,920
think I think the Millionaire had died at that point,

611
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,079
so he's just mentioned off screen because they had the

612
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,480
first TV movie is they get off the island, then

613
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:54,160
they get stranded again on the same island at the end,

614
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,279
and the second TV movie they get off for real

615
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,839
and the millionaire opens up a resort on the island.

616
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: What you just think of film franchises that eventually got

617
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:03,839
TV movie sequels?

618
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:04,759
Speaker 1: Film?

619
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: Well, Mission impossible, Oh, I got what we're talking about.

620
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,720
That was a TV franchise that got.

621
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: Well no, no, but I mean that started as a film

622
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,759
franchise and then sort of dwindled to the point where

623
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:17,759
like eventually they were like, let's make a sequel, but

624
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:18,759
let's just put it on TV.

625
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: That the Child series, you're saying, just like a one

626
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,599
off or something.

627
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

628
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,599
Speaker 4: So, like there was like, you know, several Revenge of

629
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:26,599
the Nerds movies that were released in theater, and the

630
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,079
first one made a lot of money even though it's

631
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:31,319
a terrible movie. And then Adventure They're like, well, we're

632
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:32,839
still gonna keep making these, but we don't have a

633
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,359
ton of money. Let's just put this one on TV

634
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,359
and had a seven to eleven crossover. You can go

635
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,400
to the gas station or to go to the convenience

636
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,960
store and get three D glasses and they had like

637
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,359
three D scenes or whatever.

638
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,599
Speaker 3: Problem Child remember that those movies. There's Problem Child one, two,

639
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,319
there was a Problem Child three. It was a TV

640
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,480
original movie. I remember watching it when it came out

641
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480
because we loved the first two, especially the second one.

642
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,079
We watched it all the time in my house. Yeah.

643
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,799
The third one was just this sad directed TV thing.

644
00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:02,759
I wonder gosh, Kevan watched that.

645
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:03,599
Speaker 1: Note it's got to be.

646
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:08,559
Speaker 3: Somewhere it's directed direct to VHS, like, yeah, it's below that.

647
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna into all my plex server.

648
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,839
Speaker 3: That was a whole thing though, like the the big

649
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,440
TV reunion thing, right, and it used to be a

650
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,240
big deal.

651
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: Did say by the Bell and Friends and stuff? Recently? Yeah,

652
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:22,839
it's a streaming thing.

653
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: Oh really, there's fat matter. The Facts of Life had

654
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,039
a big one. Well now it's like they do a

655
00:28:27,079 --> 00:28:30,559
whole new show, right, it was like fool House. They

656
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:31,559
just ate a whole other.

657
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: Show for TV.

658
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:36,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, right, right. It used to be like the

659
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,079
TV movie reunion thing instead.

660
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: Mean Girls Too aired on ABC Family in twenty eleven.

661
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: What is that?

662
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,319
Speaker 4: That's weird?

663
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,279
Speaker 2: The confidence to put the number on it and like

664
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,799
Colon you know, the New Class or whatever.

665
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I love.

666
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,599
Speaker 3: Would video games do that? Like Tony Hawk's pro Skater

667
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,799
fives on The Hedgehog four, it's.

668
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Like you can never go back, you can, like we

669
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,359
can we all act like Tony Hot five didn't happen,

670
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,799
but like they couldn't, Like you could do a Super

671
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,359
Mario Brothers four right now.

672
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has like a downloadable.

673
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: No. I mean, let's be honest, they wouldn' they would

674
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,279
charge a lot if they made it. Okay, let's say

675
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,559
Nine did a Mega Man nine for Mario and they

676
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,599
called it Super Mario Brothers four any s style? How

677
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,559
much does Nintendo charge for that? Like for Shoot, I

678
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:24,480
think they charged sixty.

679
00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd pay eighty.

680
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,119
Speaker 4: Are you joking.

681
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: Like you're not gonna play the new Maari? Yeah? Well

682
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:39,000
Mega Man did such a good job with it because

683
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,480
Mega nine is so good, and then I don't. Everyone's like, well,

684
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,440
we'll do that too, but it'll be bad.

685
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,279
Speaker 2: It was on on the xbo A stream I did

686
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:51,960
where I played Sonic four episode four and ho Lee

687
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:53,799
ship it is worse than I remembered.

688
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:54,599
Speaker 1: It's terrible.

689
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: That was the most angry comments I ever got was

690
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,440
Sonic the Hedgehog four episode two, when I you that

691
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,640
and gave it a bad score. Of course, being Sonic

692
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,720
fans are there just and look, I'm kind of among

693
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:09,960
their numbers in some way, but they are very very interesting.

694
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: Did Sammy Sonic fan come after you?

695
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:13,559
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? Yeah.

696
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: That was eye opening to me because like I grew

697
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,519
up as a I love Sonic. I mean Sonic two

698
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,160
is one of my favorite games of my childhood. You know,

699
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,160
I kind of fell off after Adventure maybe, but I

700
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440
didn't realize how crazy the fandom was until I was

701
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,079
a Game Informer and Tim Turry was absolutely our resident

702
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Sonic expert.

703
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: He like used to make his own ocs as a

704
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:31,960
kid and stuff.

705
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, fucking Sonic game throughout the Wei era

706
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:39,880
and the three DS era and all this, like some

707
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,720
decent ones and then some terrible ones if they weren't

708
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,440
getting nines.

709
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: Oh Tim was hearing about it.

710
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, every time I gotta meet Tim and Tim

711
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,480
have so much in common and I haven't meta.

712
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:52,079
Speaker 1: Like you guys.

713
00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Out of any friends I've met, you were probably the

714
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200
two that are the most like, have the most obvious

715
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,880
common ground.

716
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: Because I love Sonic. I watched all those shows. The

717
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:05,079
Archie comics were incredible for a while. I adored those.

718
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,119
I was definitely sending in like bad not trace, but

719
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:10,799
like eyed fan art to the comics, hoping that they

720
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,119
would post it in there and stuff like that. That

721
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,119
had a Sonic doll that I bought from best Buy

722
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,039
on its opening day, Like oh ah, Sonic was a

723
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,240
lot for me. And then I think Sonic Heroes was

724
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,599
my breaking point. Like Sonic if Etcher one and two,

725
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,839
I was still pretty good. Well, Sonic Pitcher two was

726
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,200
losing me a little bit because it was just so corny,

727
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:33,759
and they would make you play as Tails are robotic

728
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640
and these ten minute long levels where you're slowly walking

729
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,480
around on a mech. Then you would play a cool

730
00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,920
Sonic level and it was ninety seconds long and it

731
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,359
was back to Tails, just walking around and locking on

732
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,000
to stuff and firing missiles at it. But then Sonic

733
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:50,039
Heroes was like barely working. You would just fall to

734
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:52,839
your death through solid ground constantly and I.

735
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:53,359
Speaker 1: Just couldn't do it.

736
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: Game Cube, Xbox in PlayStation two.

737
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: Kayla liked that one a lot. Sonic Colors was like

738
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,759
the DS three DS one right.

739
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: Well, we could send this when you play it on

740
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,480
Blake Club.

741
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:09,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, Colors is Colors was we and DS.

742
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:11,759
Speaker 2: I believe, Oh okay that era, that's right, and it

743
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:12,720
did have its defenders.

744
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: People like Colors.

745
00:32:13,799 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

746
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:14,279
Speaker 1: People.

747
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,039
Speaker 3: Although some the Sonic fans aren't happy with that remester

748
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,279
that happened or was some issue. I don't know, but

749
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,640
there's a ton I will say this for the Sonic

750
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,119
fans they have the best fan game scene out there, Like,

751
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:29,519
that's very good fan right.

752
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Star Trek to Star Wars,

753
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,000
like Sonic to Mario, where it's like Sega kind of

754
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,400
lets him go ham the way the Star Trek people do.

755
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,920
They're like, no, we're not going to stop any of

756
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,440
these fan films or fan TV shows or whatever. And

757
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,920
that's always kind of nice to see. I prefer that

758
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,640
to the way like Nintendo handles it, obviously, right, And.

759
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: We occasionally get a gym like Sonic Mania where it's

760
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,960
like oh wow, and then they very quickly move off

761
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:53,200
of that.

762
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you've got Christian Whead right there, what are

763
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,240
you doing? Yeah? And then Christian White had did that

764
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:05,839
Pennies Big Breakaway game, which was like it's okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

765
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,920
but god, I would kill for a Sonic Mania too.

766
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,440
That game was freaking That was like one of my

767
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:13,640
favorite reviewing a game experiences ever because again I grew

768
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,880
up with Sonic and it was a two player game,

769
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,279
so I had my brother aj Common play that with me,

770
00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:20,839
and it was this kind of wild We're basically playing

771
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,880
song like the Hedgehog, the real song Hedgehog four for

772
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:27,119
so many other people and experiencing all this wacky stuff

773
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:33,039
like that boss fight where it just became doctor. Yeah,

774
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,279
that was one of like the wildest things I'd ever

775
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,119
seen in a video game. But nothing like made me

776
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:41,400
pop harder than that. I was like, God, we are

777
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,319
just playing Doctor Robotock's mean being machine. Now that's genius.

778
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: And then they followed that up with what was it?

779
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: Sonic Sonic superstargf.

780
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,519
Speaker 1: Right, and I don't think I played.

781
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,799
Speaker 3: It after that.

782
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: I played it, and I beat it because I said

783
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,480
I would. I would beat that game before I could

784
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,799
play Super Mario Brothers Wonder and uh, it's it's rough.

785
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,759
It's just like I like, I love I like Mania

786
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:08,679
a lot someone who doesn't like a lot of Sonic games.

787
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,400
Mania is so good, so much fun. And then they're like, well,

788
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,079
we got it now, don't worry you guys, go do

789
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,599
something else. We'll take Sonic back. And then they did

790
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,760
this and it's like those boss fights where you can't

791
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,960
hurt Robotnic for very long periods of time after you

792
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,239
heard him one Like, initially, it's just so bad and

793
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,639
boring in so many ways.

794
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: It's kind of a nothing of a game. I barely

795
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,559
remember anything from it.

796
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nothing. The kids don't even ever bring it up.

797
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,760
They like they were playing with me for a little

798
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,800
bit and they're like, Sonic Frontiers, that's real shit, but

799
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,719
get this out of my fight.

800
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

801
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,119
Speaker 1: I still kind of liked Frontiers. Didn't Aniers?

802
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: Fine, I like Frontiers. I hope that, like the next

803
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,119
one is basically just that, but refined. I thought they

804
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,239
had something going on there. Fact, like one of the

805
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,239
things I didn't like about where those moments where they

806
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,559
try to just put those boost style levels, like those

807
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,440
kind of you know, Sonic Colors style levels, Like no, no, actually,

808
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,039
the thing you got going with the open world, that's

809
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:57,159
pretty good, and give me more of that.

810
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: Like weird puzzles and stuff in there.

811
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, just give little more refinement to like

812
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:02,599
the look of the world and that.

813
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,599
Speaker 3: Then yes, yeah it did have that like default unreal

814
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:10,480
engine look and there's draw distance problems and things like that.

815
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever, Mike you mentioned sending in fan art and

816
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,079
stuff like that, and it maybe I was thinking, like

817
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,519
I have I ever saw it because I was the

818
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:20,119
envelope art guy at Game Informer for years. Oh wow,

819
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,599
And which that was that that seemed like it was

820
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,360
gonna be a great deal at first, because I loved

821
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,400
the envelopear growing up.

822
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: But oh boy, the amount.

823
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:29,039
Speaker 2: Of shit you have to wade through, and every time

824
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:31,000
you go through it, your hands are just a crime

825
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,039
scene by the end, with like like paper cuts and

826
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,039
just ink and pencil ship and it's just like and

827
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,800
you'll maybe find one usable thing out of every hundred

828
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,599
things you open, and it's just like, what if Mario

829
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,639
was at c O and also smoked weed, you know, like,

830
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,480
so that's.

831
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,039
Speaker 4: The usable one ship all the time? Sounds good to me.

832
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Master Kief, what if master chiefs weed? You know.

833
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:56,519
Speaker 3: I was looking at the EGF Compenium the digital archives

834
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:59,039
out and like literally was literally looking at the fan art,

835
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,239
and it is it's all just that. It's like metal

836
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,679
gear solid but Sonic the Hedgehog is Snake gets.

837
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: Just that street fight. Yeah, right.

838
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,559
Speaker 4: Envelope art in some magazine is how I learned about Goku.

839
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:14,280
That's the first time I ever saw Goku, and it

840
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,639
was like, yeah, that's every issue would have like one

841
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,440
or two Gokus and.

842
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: I'd be like, what the fuck is this?

843
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,599
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I remember getting really upset at Envelope art

844
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:24,400
on an e GM or something. When I was like

845
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,039
it was a Nintendo piece, something you would do. I

846
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,280
got very upset because I was a bit I was

847
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,719
a bit more of a Sega fan back then, obviously,

848
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:35,760
and it was like it was Mario and a giant

849
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,920
Yoshi and he like stomped tails to death, right he

850
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,119
saw his tail coming out of Yoshi's like foot and

851
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,679
sonics like all scares like tales you see like the

852
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,920
blood dripping out. And I was like, this is fucking bullshit.

853
00:36:49,519 --> 00:36:52,199
They should have read this. I was I think that's

854
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,920
around the same time, like because I knew about that.

855
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:57,920
There's robotics, bead bead machine, and I saw something in

856
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,159
a magazine about Kirby's Avalanche and I did it know,

857
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,400
So I was like they just freaking copied and ripped

858
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:09,920
off Sega. Why is nobody doing something?

859
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: I remember I was.

860
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: I was so pissed off about PlayStation coming out, and

861
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,639
I told you, guys, I remember the like Yoshi's Island.

862
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: No crying, screaming.

863
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,079
Speaker 2: That's what the guys should have bought new consoles they're doing,

864
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:23,960
because like I just thought Superintendent would be all I

865
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,960
need forever. So anyway, I went from being very pissed

866
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,039
off at PlayStation coming out because I couldn't afford it,

867
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,639
to playing at a blockbuster. I played Twist the Metal

868
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:33,639
One at a blockbustered Kiosk and loved it so fucking

869
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,880
much that I went home. And this is still in

870
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,840
my mom's house somewhere up and looking for this notebook.

871
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,960
But it's like a big drawing I did of Mario

872
00:37:41,079 --> 00:37:44,039
and Sonic standing in the foreground looking at each other

873
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:47,199
and like sweating and shaking, and then in the background

874
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,320
it's Sweet Tooth and Warhawk coming in shooting missiles at

875
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:56,159
that you are not ready all over it.

876
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,079
Speaker 4: That's when that's when you became a man and you

877
00:37:59,119 --> 00:37:59,920
stopped playing child.

878
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got an erection, and then I there was.

879
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 3: In third grade for our spelling quizzes, like like each

880
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,199
kid had to kind of draw a picture and like

881
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,679
design the paper for the spelling quiz that day. So

882
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,679
just like had to put the six lines for the words.

883
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,360
You can draw whatever you want. So people were drawing,

884
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,519
you know, like Tommy Pickles or Mickey or all this stuff.

885
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:27,639
And I drew the Sega Saturn logo on mine. Oh,

886
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:29,639
I got into a fight my friend because he had

887
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:32,280
like just played a PlayStation Kioski. Like Mike, it's so

888
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,679
much better than the Saturn. It's gonna blow it away.

889
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,119
I was like, I'm hanging up. I not want to

890
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:38,480
hear it.

891
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't think I sent in any of my art,

892
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,039
but at one point and stopping. If you've heard this,

893
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:45,280
I don't know if I've ever told this on like

894
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,840
Giant bum but like I was watching SmackDown back when

895
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,280
it was on not cable. It was on like not

896
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,119
you was upnor whatever, like the CWUPN or whatever it

897
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:56,039
was on like network.

898
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:59,039
Speaker 3: SmackDown was on up It was called the c W

899
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,239
UPN then became seed.

900
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,199
Speaker 4: Does I think there was UPN and WB network came

901
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,119
together and became a CW.

902
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 3: Right back was on UPN with all the Star Trek shows.

903
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: I remember, yes, and Shasta McNasty of course, of course,

904
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,119
so it was on. It was over the air, so

905
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,320
you could get like news break ins and stuff like

906
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,840
that from local news, and living in Kansas, we frequently

907
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,400
got like tornado watches and tornado warnings and it was

908
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,480
some like you know, there's some Stone Cold angle and

909
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:24,960
I just love Stone Cold so much, and like they'd

910
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,679
been building up to something at the end. I'm sure

911
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,800
it was I don't know, stone Cold ships in McMahon's

912
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,920
coffee or something, but like I was just waiting for

913
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,320
like this big payoff at the end, and then the

914
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,280
fucking news broke in and it wasn't even like hey,

915
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,000
you're gonna die tornado warning thing. It was just like hey,

916
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:42,280
Tornado watch and Johnson County wine dot County and I'm like, okay, great,

917
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,199
it's a watch. It's not real yet. Just stone Colds

918
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:50,039
about a shit and his coffee. Like they didn't cut away,

919
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:53,000
they just stayed there. And I got so fucking furious

920
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,119
that I recorded. I popped in a VHS tape and

921
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,239
it was either Restumated two thousand or no Mercy.

922
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,159
Speaker 1: I create. He hated the fucking weatherman for the channel.

923
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: It was like a s and everything, And I gave

924
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,519
him an entrance and I did a match where I

925
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,199
played as Stone Cold and I just grab a chair.

926
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,719
It's like a no DQ match and I grab a

927
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,920
chair and just it's like fifteen minutes of me whopoping

928
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,400
this weatherman's as. I don't because I sent it to

929
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,480
the fucking station.

930
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,039
Speaker 1: Man.

931
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: He either thought that was really funny or incredibly disturbing.

932
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I gave any context. I don't think

933
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,440
I was, like with your Tornado watches.

934
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: Next time VHS unlathled, it's kind of a threat.

935
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,559
Speaker 4: Oh that rules. Oh my god, that is such.

936
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:45,639
Speaker 3: A good way to release just get mad at people.

937
00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 4: I should just send them VHS tapes. No one would

938
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,199
ever watch them.

939
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have to imagine it's like a nick

940
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,159
Cage eight millimeter of snuff film or something. To the

941
00:40:55,199 --> 00:41:00,679
authorities here. Yeah, O Jesus Christ, all right.

942
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 4: Did you name it after the guy? So like at

943
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,519
least if he did watch it would know it was him.

944
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 2: I was by the head went to Brian Busby, which

945
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:09,440
you probably do. I think he's still the weatherman in

946
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,400
Kansas City, but that wouldn't have been it because it

947
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,199
was upn Weirdly related to that, though, is Jonathan Coachman.

948
00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember the coach Oh? Yeah, he was the.

949
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,559
Speaker 2: Weatherman for KMBC nine news growing up, the ABC affiliate

950
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:25,320
in Kansas City. So when he showed up in wrestling,

951
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,519
I was very confused as to why my childhood weatherman

952
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,480
was in wrestling, And many many years later I think

953
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,039
I was at Wrestlmingia thirty Access their convention and Coach

954
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:36,320
was there and I went up to him and go

955
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,440
k NBC nine.

956
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: He just turned around, like what the fun is? Like

957
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,320
the news like in Kansas City was like, yeah.

958
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,559
Speaker 2: My Weatherman's like holy shit, no one's ever brought that

959
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:46,960
up to me.

960
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

961
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,119
Speaker 3: I remember how weird it was because he was just

962
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:53,119
doing Sports Center for a while and I like always

963
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,719
had on kind of a hard time not just being

964
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,800
like that's that's the guy vits Mcmahonpete on that one.

965
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 4: That's most people on most TV shows.

966
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:05,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was always my move with any celebrities,

967
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,280
like always trying to like, Okay, what's the thing, Like

968
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,199
there's the stuff they obviously get asked about all all

969
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,360
the time, and then there's like the obscure stuff like

970
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,840
you ever see that like Nard war guy. Yeah, like

971
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,719
super super deep cut stuff. And that's why, like I

972
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,599
tried that even like when I would meet wrestlers in

973
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:21,840
more recent years where it's like first time I met Flair,

974
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,960
you know, he was shockingly at the JW. Marriott Bar

975
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:26,559
with three Gen and Tonics in front of him, and

976
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:28,760
I sat down next to him and I just kind

977
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,039
of like I.

978
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Didn't want to immediately mark out. I just ordered a drink.

979
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there acting like I'm not there because it's

980
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,280
Rick Flair next to me. And then I turned to him.

981
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,199
I was like, oh, hey, Rick, I was going a

982
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:38,760
little bit of small tuck stuff. He's looking at his

983
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,920
phone with gigantic that I didn't know iPhones could have

984
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:46,000
that big a font. I was like, hey, remember remember

985
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:47,880
I think I actually worked at Game in Former at

986
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,719
the time. This is like a while ago, and I

987
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,480
was like, I work, I work in the video game world,

988
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:53,440
and I thought it was really cool when you remember

989
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,199
when he did that Command of Conquer commercial, he did

990
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,400
that Red Alert three thing and that series of commercials

991
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,480
with you fighting a bear a guy, and he was

992
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,960
like you didn't even like look up from his phone

993
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,039
and he's like what And I was like, yeah, I

994
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:06,400
remember the Flair versus Barrett commercials, like you know, you

995
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,719
fighting the bearsicca, I don't know what you're talking about,

996
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,840
just absolutely And he's just no selling everything I said.

997
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: Not like even interested that he like film commercials with

998
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,880
a bear and doesn't remember.

999
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: He believed me. I think he was just like whatever kid.

1000
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:17,679
Speaker 3: Uh.

1001
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: And then it wasn't until I just I just pivoted

1002
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,320
to like the Eye. I was like, oh, man, I've

1003
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,280
been watching some of those old eighties promos lately. And

1004
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,719
he like put his phone and I was like, oh,

1005
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,840
we were running in the eighties, brother, we were.

1006
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: Going the eighties. Yeah you got We're.

1007
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,599
Speaker 2: Talking about like fucking Dusty Roads and Greg Valentine or whatever.

1008
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: He perks up.

1009
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,079
Speaker 4: It's like, that's when people want to talk about the GameCube.

1010
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:38,360
We were running in the GameCube.

1011
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 3: Ear guys, we were you brought up like winning the

1012
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,960
finance scure thing to talk about someone. Drew Scanlon was

1013
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,440
on uh last week on the FI Skip as you

1014
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,039
are Out, and I do I feel bad. I feel

1015
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:51,679
like a bit of a goof because the one time

1016
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,760
I ever interacted with him, I think it was on

1017
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,039
a stream and I was on a call and it

1018
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:56,599
was this you and him was the first time I

1019
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:58,960
ever was on anything with them, and I think somehow

1020
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840
within a minute I brought up the Blinking Guy. I

1021
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,360
was like, why it's wrong with what? Why am I?

1022
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,920
Chris Barley showing.

1023
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: Also the thing you think about all the time with this,

1024
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,960
like don't be the Chris Barley Show.

1025
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: I know, and it's like, I'm usually so good. I

1026
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,599
was like, Drew probably thinks of some kind of a

1027
00:44:14,679 --> 00:44:17,960
due fit. The nice human being in the world, I know,

1028
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,760
incredibly nice.

1029
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 2: He is sort of like, goddamn, yeah, he was awesome

1030
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:26,039
here he's flying planes now, yes, I mean more so

1031
00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:26,599
than usual.

1032
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: More so than usual.

1033
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,599
Speaker 3: I mean he's talking about it on the show. I'm

1034
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,880
not all the way through last episode yet, but he

1035
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,119
was talking about flying planes and.

1036
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 4: So he stayed like he got like back on track

1037
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,559
with this, his lessons and all that stuff.

1038
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: That's great.

1039
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: Told me he was talking about like renting planes and stuff,

1040
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,639
so I assume he mused to be doing it, Like, yeah,

1041
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,119
he's he's the type of guy like I'm definitely older

1042
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,719
than Drew, but like working with him, I would just

1043
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,000
be like, ah, that's like an adult.

1044
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,199
Speaker 4: Yeah right, that's when I know exactly what you mean.

1045
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,039
That's alone who could figure out how to fly a plane?

1046
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. Well, I just realized that in this

1047
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,599
zoom call I misspelled my name, so.

1048
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: That I am.

1049
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: Makonchi.

1050
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mick, what Mike? So that's where I am.

1051
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: Well, w's right next to the e Mike, it happens.

1052
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,280
It's difficult sometimes when you're in a hurri you know,

1053
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:19,760
you had.

1054
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: To put an age on when you think.

1055
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say when you we've all continued

1056
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,400
to learn and grow as people. But like, ultimately where

1057
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,920
the line kind of evens out, what do you think

1058
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,119
the age is for you guys?

1059
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 4: Like, oh, like, what age do I get to where

1060
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,159
I'm like, I'm still just that age?

1061
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm thinking fifteen.

1062
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like I remember Bruce Willis would say twenty

1063
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,880
seven and that's way too old.

1064
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:45,159
Speaker 1: No, No, I was yeah, no, no.

1065
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 4: I've never really felt older than like maybe twenty two.

1066
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:52,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like fifteen ish with when you sprinkle

1067
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:54,119
in the like, oh I can drink now and I'm married.

1068
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's an average. Right. There's some things

1069
00:45:56,679 --> 00:45:58,880
where I feel fifteen. Sure, some things where I feel

1070
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,079
twenty six, Like I've rented a car once and that

1071
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,519
like yeah, and like that was like okay enough to

1072
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,039
be like okay, yeah, you know, but planning a family

1073
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:09,480
vacation to Disney that was like a whole thing and

1074
00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:11,639
stuff handled a lot of that. But I'm like I contributed,

1075
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:14,119
did what I could and had some help there, like

1076
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,079
you know, I had connections and things like that that

1077
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:18,440
made me feel a little bit older. But it's an

1078
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,000
average it out to about twenty two.

1079
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: It's very it's hard to say, like twenty three was

1080
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:25,880
big because that's when I like started actually going out

1081
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,760
and trying to be more social. So that was an

1082
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,119
important thing. So maybe after like twenty five, I don't know.

1083
00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:35,239
There's always weird little things and there's so yeah, there's

1084
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,119
so many ways that I'm not that different from eight

1085
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,880
year old of my key here, right.

1086
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,599
Speaker 1: Okay, let's say this.

1087
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: If you average out all the things you reference or

1088
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:47,360
think about, like, oh god, a day to day basis,

1089
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,960
I feel like I'm like ninety eight ninety nine, So

1090
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:51,440
I'm like.

1091
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: It is, and it's it's totally like a bell curve too, right,

1092
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,039
because like as you get closer to today, there's fewer

1093
00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:00,639
things from each year I'm probably thinking about. Yeah, I

1094
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:02,480
will say, if you say, Mike, think of a year,

1095
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,039
nineteen ninety eight is probably going.

1096
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: To be the year I have. Yeah, that was a

1097
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,320
big one.

1098
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,559
Speaker 3: That was the year for whatever reason, and like, yeah,

1099
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:12,239
ninety eight, like just show me those numbers, and I

1100
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,079
feel good.

1101
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can think of a specific time, but

1102
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:17,719
like I mentioned this before, the weeks before Phantom Menace

1103
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,679
came out in ninety nine.

1104
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,559
Speaker 2: Sure, nineties, we're all a couple of years apart and stuff,

1105
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,639
But like I do feel like that late nineties was

1106
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,599
hitting for all of us.

1107
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely good time.

1108
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: In sixty four coming out, that was another time. Yeah, yeah,

1109
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,559
sixty four, Oh got dreamcast. I was so freaking excited

1110
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:35,079
for all of that.

1111
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1112
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,159
Speaker 2: But then do we all agree that that next generation

1113
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,360
was objectively better?

1114
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was probably the besttionaries, but you know it

1115
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,320
had that whole nine to eleven thing souring stuff.

1116
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:47,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here it comes Mike you with his political

1117
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:49,280
agenda eleven.

1118
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 4: Us from our video games.

1119
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:53,519
Speaker 3: Bad. Yeah.

1120
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,679
Speaker 1: I did change the tone of like even the fun

1121
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,599
stuff afterwards.

1122
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,039
Speaker 3: The tone of everything changed a bit.

1123
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,679
Speaker 1: Of course.

1124
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 4: Earlier Mike you mentioned like wanting to hang up on

1125
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,800
your friend because he was like, you know, talking bad

1126
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,800
about the Saturn. I'm like, it wasn't directly because they

1127
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,280
were insulting the n sixty four, But I definitely eventually

1128
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,519
fought the kids who like, at first, I'm like, hey,

1129
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:16,880
I got the INN sixty four, come over, my house,

1130
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,719
Like we ride the bus home together and we played

1131
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,079
the N sixty four and they were like, this is amazing.

1132
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,639
And then a few weeks later, other stuff had happened,

1133
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,920
and I was I was probably like provoking them in

1134
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,800
some ways, being kind of a little shit. But eventually

1135
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,599
they're like, oh, you know, PlayStation so much better than

1136
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:34,920
the N sixty four. And then a few weeks after that,

1137
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,440
we all just fought on the bus. It was these

1138
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,480
two kids and me, and yeah, I'm like, okay, well

1139
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,639
I did not lose. Yeah, like there was one kid

1140
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:45,280
I really beat up and the other one stopped me.

1141
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,199
Basically is how it went.

1142
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: We didn't really have like a Saturn contingency. We definitely

1143
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,360
had PlayStation in sixty four back then, like there'ld be

1144
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,840
kids who owned them, but like nobody was like Saturned

1145
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:55,320
the winner.

1146
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,159
Speaker 3: You know. I was definitely very lonely on my Saturn,

1147
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,599
and you know, it died pretty early. But that was

1148
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,639
I never really like when the Dreaming Cast died, I

1149
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:07,679
was like, okay, game cubes were mitching my wagon. When

1150
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,559
the Saturn died, I would I played PlayStation. I played

1151
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,280
sixty four, but it really that was when I got

1152
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,079
into PC gaming, it was I was doing like Half

1153
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:17,760
Life one just happened. I was almost playing gryffin Dango

1154
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,239
and a lot of those old loog stars at Veture

1155
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,400
games like those. That first wave of weird MMOs like

1156
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,199
ever Request and Assurant's Call wasn't too long after that,

1157
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:29,039
So I was like, I was deep into that world

1158
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:30,960
back when it was still kind of weird in its

1159
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:31,519
own thing.

1160
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:35,159
Speaker 1: It was still pretty interesting, arg you, maybe more interesting

1161
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:39,000
when it was weird. But yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, definitely. Uh,

1162
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,280
speaking of that, do you want to talk about video games?

1163
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 3: Sure?

1164
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,079
Speaker 1: All right, video games?

1165
00:49:46,199 --> 00:49:49,159
Speaker 2: Boy, it's just it's a delight, you know, it's uh

1166
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,039
a mic and grub of known you for a while now,

1167
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:53,840
and it's rare that we get to just sit down

1168
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,920
and talk about video games.

1169
00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: I know, it's never for once.

1170
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't talk about everything. Were playing, yeah yesterday.

1171
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:02,559
Which if you want to hear us three talk about

1172
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:05,840
video games on a many times a week basis, check

1173
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,800
us out over at giant bomb dot com. Subscribe to

1174
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,159
the giant BombCast we're over there. Definitely subscribe Blake Club.

1175
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,800
We'll touch on that in a moment here. But yeah,

1176
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:19,239
since people have probably heard us talk about people. Okay,

1177
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,920
I'm sure I've got a lot of people's around me

1178
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:21,320
right now.

1179
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: I don't have a single PEOPO.

1180
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,679
Speaker 1: Look at the people.

1181
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of because I heard Mary is playing

1182
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:31,599
a lot of Blueprints. I have not heard her thoughts

1183
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:33,840
on it yet, and obviously she's not here this week,

1184
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,480
so I want to save a larger me and Mary Blueprinces.

1185
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:39,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to hear that too, so definitely save

1186
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:39,719
some stuff for that.

1187
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 3: Is Mahardy going to check it out?

1188
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: I think he said he's going to check it out. Yes,

1189
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,320
I don't think he started yet. I know Mary has

1190
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:45,719
been playing.

1191
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: I'm feel it curious because they were like, you know,

1192
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:49,639
I think the people really love this game, love it,

1193
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,199
But then there are some who some who I suspect

1194
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,039
would have I'm not surprised they don't like it.

1195
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: But some them like, oh you don't like this? Okay,

1196
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,119
can I just tease a little bit for your guys show.

1197
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,639
I'm just I've seen her on been playing a lot.

1198
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:03,480
She's at ninety one point eight hours in Blue prius O.

1199
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,119
Speaker 2: I think she likes it all right, that's well. I

1200
00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:08,360
think she also leaves stuff on for a long time.

1201
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:09,559
Speaker 4: So she definit left it on one night.

1202
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can say.

1203
00:51:11,519 --> 00:51:13,039
Speaker 1: My thoughts are she probably likes it.

1204
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,679
Speaker 2: I feel like I've seen some people in Blue Sky

1205
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,440
be like, oh yeah you got married and do it

1206
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,840
a river. So well, I'll need to talk to her

1207
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,440
next week about it. If you want to hear us

1208
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,599
three and Jan talk about it, listen to the last

1209
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,880
two or three bomb casts. Probably yeah, And we put

1210
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,119
up videos plenty of us talking about Blueprints. It's an

1211
00:51:29,159 --> 00:51:32,400
incredible game. We're all in camp pro Blueprints, very plow

1212
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Blue Prince.

1213
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: Just like only slightly annoyed that people think that's like,

1214
00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:36,840
this is one of those things where like, oh, you

1215
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,760
just played a game early and you felt like, no,

1216
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,039
that's I'm forty two. That just doesn't happen anymore. I

1217
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:44,760
just God, I love this game.

1218
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,519
Speaker 3: It's like I like, I still am appreciative of that

1219
00:51:47,639 --> 00:51:49,679
sometimes for sure, and like I can't be aware of it.

1220
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,280
But uh yeah, the point in life where that would

1221
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,519
have colored my opinion on a game is very long past.

1222
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,400
If ever, like come.

1223
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: On, yeah, and I can't.

1224
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: I can't get mad at the folks that are not

1225
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:02,360
it's not clicking with because I got no there's gonna

1226
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,400
make balders gates and stuff like that that are universe beloved,

1227
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,239
and I just like, look, not everyone's gonna like everything.

1228
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,679
You know, I'm not gonna take a personally if someone

1229
00:52:09,679 --> 00:52:11,559
doesn't like a game I like, but exactly we all

1230
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
like it quite a bit here, I U, I guess,

1231
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,800
just to quickly touch on it, I think I'm done,

1232
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:21,000
uh in that I definitely saw credits a long time ago.

1233
00:52:21,079 --> 00:52:24,119
I've played a good amount past that. I can see

1234
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:26,239
where additional things are and a lot of things that

1235
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,079
are very deep that I barely scratch the surface of.

1236
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:29,639
But like, I'm at the point where I'm kind of

1237
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:32,159
fine looking stuff up or talking openly with you guys

1238
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:34,599
and like discord and stuff like that. Are you guys

1239
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:35,719
still actively playing?

1240
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 4: I am, But I I am feel myself kind of

1241
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,599
coming to an end as well. I uh, I think

1242
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:44,639
I have six of the eight bread letters now, kind

1243
00:52:44,639 --> 00:52:47,360
of like finding Safe, I didn't even know we're there,

1244
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,239
which is surprising. I am still also discovering new things

1245
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,599
to like begin like oh, I could spend time investigating

1246
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:57,880
this as well that that early metapuzzle with the you

1247
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,239
know the letters or whatever, like oh, Okay, that did

1248
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,519
have a double meaning, and I didn't realize. I'm like,

1249
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:04,239
I thought I solved it and was I had moved on,

1250
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,880
and then I went another room. It's like, oh, this

1251
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,119
relates to that too. Okay, I'm sure you send a

1252
00:53:08,119 --> 00:53:09,679
picture of that in our discord. I was like, oh, yes,

1253
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,719
realize that. Yes, so yeah it's that, and then yeah

1254
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,199
the other one exactly. So I am still really enjoying

1255
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,559
all of that. I have a very lightly begun like

1256
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:21,760
looking for hints, not exactly just tell me straight out

1257
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,719
what's going on, but I'm like, you know, Chris person,

1258
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,760
tell me a little bit, pointing me in the right direction,

1259
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,760
that sort of thing. But it's definitely when I sit down,

1260
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:33,000
like to think about playing a game, it's like, man,

1261
00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:34,440
this is all I want to play still. I want

1262
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,679
to do another run. Even if I don't have a

1263
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,920
goal like earlier, for like the last you know, fifty

1264
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,679
hours it's been, I have set goals I want to do.

1265
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,719
Now it's like, let's just see what happens and then

1266
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,559
I definitely have some things I want to touch on,

1267
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:48,119
but I'm just happy to kind of like lay rooms down,

1268
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,199
see what happens, and then oh, yeah, there is that

1269
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,079
one thing I can do now that I have this tool,

1270
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,159
I'll see if I can manufacture the RNG to get

1271
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,119
me there. And if it doesn't, oh well something else

1272
00:53:57,119 --> 00:53:57,800
will probably happen.

1273
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 3: Sure, I feel myself also slowing down. I did have

1274
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,199
like the first puzzle that I just straight up looked

1275
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,639
up and when I looked at it was like I

1276
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,880
wasn't gonna figure that out with it was the gallery, right, that's.

1277
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: A glad I did that.

1278
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I got that's one where I got the

1279
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,119
tiniest hint from Chris where he's like a thesaurus is

1280
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:20,119
what he said. And uh so when I got the

1281
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:21,760
first one, everything else clicked into place.

1282
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: But it's like there is so stuff I would like

1283
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,719
to do and want to do, but it is I

1284
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,199
do sometimes eventually feel almost guilty, like I gotta play

1285
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:32,119
some other games and I can always come back to this,

1286
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:34,519
like I want to beat a Vout especially you know,

1287
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,679
there's rumors that that I believe in remake could come

1288
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,039
out next week, and I know if I start playing

1289
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,320
that might be hard to go back to a Vout

1290
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:44,719
something that's pretty similar. And there's some other games coming

1291
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,519
out soon, like you know clear obscure, I gotta I

1292
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:50,000
want to make sure I'm playing that. So, yeah, I

1293
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,199
probably am slowing down here a bit. And I don't

1294
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,360
know if that means I just stop or if it

1295
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,320
means I go really deep on just looking stuff up

1296
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,280
and quote unquote trying to max out my safe I'll

1297
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,840
get those letters and whatnot. Probably the former.

1298
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:04,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I could do the thing now where

1299
00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:06,639
its just I just look up like the craziest puzzles

1300
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:08,559
and just watch it. Like I think I'm probably done

1301
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:11,360
playing it. But that's certainly not an indictment. That's like,

1302
00:55:11,679 --> 00:55:15,440
oh gosh, long pass credits on that game. I got hours,

1303
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:17,679
like fifty sixty hours or something like that.

1304
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 4: So and I think I've like at this point, have

1305
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,079
like seen more than either of you, and there's still

1306
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:22,760
so much more for.

1307
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 3: Me to see.

1308
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,599
Speaker 4: So it's like, if you want to throw yourself in there,

1309
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:28,039
there's gonna be so so so much, but you can't

1310
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:30,480
have a satisfying experience without having to worry about doing

1311
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:32,360
all that. At the same time, I think it's I

1312
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,360
think it's good for a puzzle game like this, Yes, totally, Yes.

1313
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,199
Speaker 2: One of the best, uh, Mike, you are playing Tales

1314
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:40,679
of Grace's f What the fuck is that?

1315
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,119
Speaker 3: You know?

1316
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:44,599
Speaker 4: The Tales of Games, right, it's probably kind of similar

1317
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:46,360
to your favorite, The Ease.

1318
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm a big eashead, but yeah, but uh yeah,

1319
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,519
so tail I've heard. Can I guess tales? How many

1320
00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:55,519
Tales games are there? How many like different words are

1321
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:56,760
there at the end of tales that are part of

1322
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:57,400
the same series.

1323
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,119
Speaker 1: It's like fifteen or something like that.

1324
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, there's like a bunch of mobile ones that know,

1325
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:06,400
nobody really played. Let's say there's like twelve important ones,

1326
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,239
maybe mainline ones. There's one you have to know. I

1327
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:11,599
bet there's one that you know the name of.

1328
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:12,519
Speaker 1: Who makes them?

1329
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 4: Damn co.

1330
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 1: Tales of Simonia, that's right. Is that the one you

1331
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:17,880
thought I would know?

1332
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that was the big game cube one.

1333
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,679
Speaker 1: Okay, Tales of Arise.

1334
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 3: Tales of a Arise. Yeah, that was the newest one.

1335
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,079
Speaker 1: I remember.

1336
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:26,559
Speaker 2: I already talked about it on here and I actually

1337
00:56:26,599 --> 00:56:30,559
tried that out briefly. Tales of Simphonious, Tales of a Rise.

1338
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of any other one.

1339
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about all I got.

1340
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: There's Tales of Destiny, Tales of the Sparea of Bursaria,

1341
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,719
Tales of Zilia, Tales of Zilia two, Tales of Fantasia

1342
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,280
was the first one, Tales.

1343
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:51,079
Speaker 1: Hid Zone.

1344
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: I'm a big JRPG guy. The gimmick with these ones

1345
00:56:56,159 --> 00:56:57,840
is that they lean a bit more in the action

1346
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,639
RPG thing, but they still have most of the trappings

1347
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:05,559
of traditional JEPYG and that you have like a battle field,

1348
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,760
like the way you kind of equip items, and the

1349
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,760
party set up and just the structure of everything. Great

1350
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,360
classic JERRPG. Ease is almost more of a straight up

1351
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,920
action RPG, I think, because again it's not this is

1352
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,840
a oh you touch an enemy in the field and

1353
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,360
then you go into like the separate screen, the separate

1354
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,079
thing going on there. So that's why this feels. Yeah,

1355
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:27,320
it's a bit more traditional in essets. And I played

1356
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,480
some of these, and I've really liked Sales Simphony I

1357
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,840
played back on the GameCube. Really liked that Tells of

1358
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,159
Vesperia was the Xbox threet sixty one, and they remastered

1359
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:38,880
that one not too long ago from modern platforms, and

1360
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,239
I love that one. That one is great. And I

1361
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,000
played like half of a Rise, the new oor one

1362
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:47,559
Kid that came out. This one Tales of Grace's was

1363
00:57:47,719 --> 00:57:49,519
the Wei one.

1364
00:57:49,679 --> 00:57:51,039
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a remake of a wee game.

1365
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: So well, first they brought over the PlayStation is three

1366
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,159
and that's when it became Tales of Grace's F. And no,

1367
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:02,159
I do not know what the F stands for. But

1368
00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:06,599
then this is now Tales of Grace's F remastered. Okay,

1369
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:09,239
so it's a remaster of a p S three version

1370
00:58:09,239 --> 00:58:09,960
of a Wii game.

1371
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 2: What is the through line with the TAILS series other

1372
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,800
than the tales word?

1373
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,559
Speaker 3: It's kind of yeah, it's that gameplay set up.

1374
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: Really, it's like characters like a no, it's.

1375
00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:23,679
Speaker 3: A final fancy thing. So I think some of them

1376
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:28,960
are tangentially related and like separated by eons, right, But

1377
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:31,719
generally it's like a fun fancy situation where most of

1378
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,559
them are completely different, separate things, but they have like

1379
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:37,760
always the same art style. Generally, it's some other weird quirks.

1380
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,920
There's this skit system where a certain point you can

1381
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,199
push select and you'll just see the characters kind of

1382
00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:46,400
talking to each other about what's going on. It's completely optional,

1383
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,519
but they're usually kind of funny or cute. They just

1384
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:52,360
give you more flavor or something like that, but I've

1385
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,440
liked some I like to Vespari a ton of like

1386
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,840
some funny a lot. This one is okay, Okay, yeah

1387
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,639
it is. If you are a big Tales of Like

1388
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,800
fan and you just want to play the new one

1389
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,599
that got remastered you haven't seen before, I think it's

1390
00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:09,639
worth it. If you're curious about the series, please play

1391
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:12,440
Tells of Vesperia instead of this, or play Tales of

1392
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,039
Our Eyes, the newest one. There's nothing super wrong with it.

1393
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:20,800
It's just all kind of normal, right.

1394
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 4: Is this the one you were losing steam with a

1395
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,039
little bit a few weeks back again, Yeah, I almost.

1396
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,719
Speaker 3: Just dropped it, and I was like, I think I'm

1397
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,199
so close to the end that I will go ahead

1398
00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:32,400
and finish shit. And I am glad that I did.

1399
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,800
But it was like it was a little bit of

1400
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,079
a push, like, all right, let me just get through this.

1401
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,480
Like I kind of knew how the combat worked. It

1402
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,840
wasn't really getting any more complicated. It has like a

1403
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,159
crafting system of sorts that's not very complicated. I was

1404
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:49,360
a little surprised because all the tails heads are like

1405
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:51,440
this one has one of the best battle systems in

1406
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,239
the series, and I wasn't really getting that sense at all.

1407
00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:57,800
It seemed there was roughly some complications to it and

1408
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,000
the kind of a taxi can do, and some dodging stuff,

1409
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,400
but also it has that problem. I think a lot

1410
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,559
of these games sometimes do have or because it's an

1411
01:00:06,639 --> 01:00:10,559
action like real time combat system and you have a

1412
01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:12,800
party of four, but you can only control one person

1413
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:16,519
like and often you're not playing as the healer. It's like, well,

1414
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,239
the hero's trying to cast attack and it's getting attacked

1415
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,559
and there's like five enemies on the field. You're trying

1416
01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:22,760
to deal with them. So you're spending a lot of

1417
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,679
time just trying to get enemies off the Healer, but

1418
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:27,880
sometimes you can't, and it's a bad feeling. And other grpgs,

1419
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,760
when a party remember dies, you have to revide them,

1420
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,079
but you know you're controlling them.

1421
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: It's your fault.

1422
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: It's extra annoying in this when you're playing the kind

1423
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,559
of item menu game a lot at that time, like, oh,

1424
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,599
someone die, let's get them up with the potion, Let's

1425
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:41,760
get them up with the whatever. This game called Phoenix

1426
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,920
down Life bottles things like that. But again it was

1427
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,880
all fine. It's weird. You could still tell some of

1428
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,000
the ways it's a weak game, Like there's zero controlling

1429
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,840
a camera in this game, interesting, right, because like oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1430
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,840
there wasn't a right analog stick when they first made

1431
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,800
this game. So also means no overworld, which is something

1432
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,239
that Simphonia and Vesperia have and I like that. And

1433
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:06,880
this is more just a bunch of kind of long

1434
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,079
paths connecting all of the area, so the world feels

1435
01:01:10,119 --> 01:01:11,239
surprisingly small.

1436
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: The whole thing felt kind of small in some ways,

1437
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,280
in a nice intimate way for a game that took

1438
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,519
me like thirty five hours to beats, which I guess

1439
01:01:19,559 --> 01:01:21,559
on the short end for a JRPG these days, but

1440
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:24,599
still felt like a pretty long game. There's actually even

1441
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:27,320
an epilogue I thing that I think they added in

1442
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,440
the PS three version, and I was like, I'm not playing,

1443
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,519
that's fine, I'll I'll go, I'll go read a description

1444
01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:35,519
of what happens there.

1445
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: I've had enough.

1446
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: It's building a house at the end of Red Dead two. No,

1447
01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:41,159
I wish it was that good.

1448
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 3: I think it's like even for Sona three, which I love,

1449
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,920
has that episode I guess thing right that they added

1450
01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:51,880
to the remake, and it was originally part of that

1451
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,840
fest version of the game. As much as I love

1452
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,320
Persona three, by the time I'm done playing that game

1453
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,960
for eighty hours, I'm like, oh, I'm good. I don't

1454
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,280
need to see the playable epilogue.

1455
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: No, thank you.

1456
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 4: Uh, Mike, you mentioned the you know, the we not

1457
01:02:05,119 --> 01:02:07,719
having the right analog stick, you know, not to bring

1458
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,119
news into this show, Dan, But there was some headlines

1459
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:12,800
that went around this week because shoe Hey Yoshida, who

1460
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,679
formerly a PlayStation said Nintendo is losing their identity because

1461
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,480
the switch to is not weird, and I like, I

1462
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:21,559
just kind of fundamentally disagree with that because it's like

1463
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,159
Nintendo has done just follow up consoles in the past

1464
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:26,800
and that has not stopped them from being very Nintendo.

1465
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,440
But how do you guys feel about that? Is there

1466
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,639
any part of the switch too that feels like it's

1467
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:32,239
disappointing because it's not weirder?

1468
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: No, because my thought is, like the gimmick stuff, Like

1469
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,840
even the ones that were successful the Wii, the games

1470
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,280
I like from the Wii are not because of the gimmick,

1471
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,280
you know. I like there's a handful I like boom

1472
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,679
Block Galaxy. Yeah, boom Blocks is fine. Stuff like that,

1473
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:49,239
but like, you know, it's not about the gimmick. And

1474
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,559
then they tried to do the gimmick follow up to

1475
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:54,000
the Wii. Instead of doing the same thing, they did

1476
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,639
a different thing and it sucked. And there were great

1477
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:58,880
games on the WIU, but there weren't games that you

1478
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,320
needed the gimmick bore you moved to the switch out

1479
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,639
the gimmick, and then this is not to you. Well,

1480
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,400
of course, yeah, and the switch I mean, you can

1481
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,599
call it a gimmick, but I really don't think it is.

1482
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:11,679
Speaker 1: I think that is just like an evolution of a console, you.

1483
01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 4: Know, and it's meeting a need. Yeah, it's not.

1484
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,239
Speaker 2: It's not oh, waggle controls, not so I can swing

1485
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,800
the tennis racket or I got a game pad.

1486
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: It's oh I can take my game on the bus.

1487
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 3: You know.

1488
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: That's totally So.

1489
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 3: It's people like, first off, conflating the innovations with gimmick

1490
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,159
because when I was kind of complaining about this, piss

1491
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,280
about this a bit, people are like, well, like, you know,

1492
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,960
some of the gimmis have been like D pads and

1493
01:03:33,079 --> 01:03:35,679
things that they invent them Like okay, yeah, I'm not

1494
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,960
talking about that. You know, there is weird stuff with

1495
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,159
the switch to like the mouse, but what is always

1496
01:03:41,199 --> 01:03:45,159
so much more important is just software innovation and creativity.

1497
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,199
Like the big thing with the switch one wasn't HD

1498
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,480
Rumble or even the wild It.

1499
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: Was a plane.

1500
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah right, well it.

1501
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 4: Was like it's far more influential than any of the gimmicks.

1502
01:04:01,039 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And look at Donkey kunkin Nan. So look

1503
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,719
a what they're letting us do in that game, Like

1504
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,400
that's what's important. So there's a lot of things to

1505
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,400
criticize Nintendo about right now. I do kind of hate

1506
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,920
the Nintendo's not weird anymore thing. I don't, but I

1507
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,239
don't care about that at all.

1508
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,159
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't weird the fucking Super Nintendo. Yeah,

1509
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,800
like exactly, that was that.

1510
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: A problem for the Super the nes Like, no.

1511
01:04:23,719 --> 01:04:26,719
Speaker 3: Wasn't weird weird either. This is kind of a relatively

1512
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,639
recent thing. It's a hold over from the Wi era.

1513
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,199
I think it was, you know, help them with weirdness.

1514
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 4: It was their expression of like the Blue Ocean strategy

1515
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,360
of like, let's go someplace where everyone else is not.

1516
01:04:37,679 --> 01:04:39,880
And really what they ended up realizing the reason it

1517
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,920
worked with the Wii is because it was less powerful,

1518
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,800
and so they saved a ton of money and so

1519
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,199
they could just focus on software innovation. That's the thing

1520
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:48,679
that has survived from the WI because that's the first

1521
01:04:48,679 --> 01:04:50,800
time they did that, Like though all the other gimmick

1522
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,199
stuff did go away, but stay in a generation behind

1523
01:04:53,199 --> 01:04:55,760
with their hardware, so they could like put more money

1524
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,880
into making software that stayed and that's what mattered from

1525
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,599
that generation. So yeah, they're they're actually just as weird.

1526
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,679
Putting out an underpowered console is still weird. So yeah,

1527
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,039
I'm totally happy with it.

1528
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

1529
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 2: And I guess, like, you know, you could argue that

1530
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,440
the DS and the three DS were gimmicky, but like

1531
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,360
again the game like they did some clever stuff with

1532
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,199
the dual screen stuff, but it did but.

1533
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: Like probably top tier gimmick, and you know, hard to

1534
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,000
define gimmick, but that'shy would put that one in s here.

1535
01:05:22,039 --> 01:05:25,159
There's always so much like kidro revisionist history people, a

1536
01:05:25,159 --> 01:05:26,960
lot of people did it, like the three D I did,

1537
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,960
but they barely supported the three D effecting games.

1538
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,039
Speaker 3: By the end of the three D.

1539
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: Launch, consoles didn't have the fucking three D on it,

1540
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,639
you know, Like it's telling though that like the best

1541
01:05:36,639 --> 01:05:38,719
games you can still play without that, Like look, yeah,

1542
01:05:38,719 --> 01:05:40,599
you're not going to see that block in the foreground

1543
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:42,400
in Mario three D Land, but like you can play

1544
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,480
through Mario three D Land, you know, yeah.

1545
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:45,039
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

1546
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 3: I think there's Pokemon games that just straight up did.

1547
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,400
The later Pokemon games straight up did not have three

1548
01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:52,840
D enabled at all. Cool.

1549
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: Uh, Grub, you have mainly been playing the river Hillsoft

1550
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:00,440
game over Blood for the original station.

1551
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,119
Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, I beat this one today. Yeah, this this

1552
01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:07,480
was our this is my Blake Club game. I uh,

1553
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,599
you know, four episodes. Last couple were not two long

1554
01:06:10,599 --> 01:06:12,320
episodes either. We kind of had a rush last week

1555
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,760
and rush this week. So you know what, Dan, you

1556
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:15,880
were right? Not too bad?

1557
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: Right, it's but also appropriate, like it's not too oh

1558
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,599
it's a bad game.

1559
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 4: I just mean like relatively, it's not like Katana come on, like,

1560
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,559
you know, that's terrible and a gauntlet that never ended.

1561
01:06:27,719 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1562
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: And for those that I guess you don't know Blake

1563
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,760
Club and just listen to fire Escape, it is US

1564
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,360
three and we play two completion the worst games of

1565
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,159
all time. We have turn I did Superman sixty four

1566
01:06:38,159 --> 01:06:41,480
and Sonic O six Grubs Done, Dake Katana and Ride

1567
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:46,239
to Hell, Mike Mortal Combat Mythology three D, Mortal Come Mythologies,

1568
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,480
Fester's Quest, Mike just destroyed in one sitting, which was easy,

1569
01:06:49,519 --> 01:06:50,800
one of the more impressive things I've ever seen.

1570
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:51,239
Speaker 3: I beat.

1571
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: After that, He's faster now, yeah.

1572
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 3: I am faster. Uh, Jeff. Here's my big question, because

1573
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,519
I've been kind of thinking about this almost all day.

1574
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:07,039
Speaker 4: What genre would you call over Oh my god, yeah,

1575
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:11,400
I mean I I would probably put it, especially if

1576
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,159
I was working in a magazine back in that day

1577
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:14,719
and I had to review it, I'd be like, this

1578
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,079
is basically an adventure game. It's an adventure horror.

1579
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,039
Speaker 3: It's barely survival horror.

1580
01:07:21,239 --> 01:07:22,119
Speaker 1: Horny to call everything.

1581
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 4: Well, okay, you're right, you're right. If I was actually

1582
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,039
working in a magazine back then, I probably would have

1583
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:29,239
called it survival horror. But so now I would call

1584
01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:29,800
it adventures.

1585
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 3: We joked at the beginning when you're playing, I'm like, oh,

1586
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,119
this is kind of just grimfin Dango down to the

1587
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:38,039
tank controls, and it basically was that. There was some combat,

1588
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,159
but ninety percent of the combat was in like the

1589
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:42,159
last ten minutes of.

1590
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah to get into the combat, you had to still

1591
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,119
still go into the item inventory, that Grim Fandango item

1592
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:51,960
inventory and bring it up. And even when combats started,

1593
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,880
you had to do that and the combat wouldn't pause.

1594
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: It what a weird take combat encounters. Yes, yeah, I had.

1595
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,559
Speaker 2: Resid Evil where you're like side stepping a bunch of

1596
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:02,039
stuff around. There's like two things in the game you

1597
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:02,519
have to do it.

1598
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:05,199
Speaker 3: I was shocked how much it wasn't Resident Evil, because

1599
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,239
I think they thought it was like Resident Evil, but

1600
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,519
it just really isn't.

1601
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,559
Speaker 4: Yep, it was. It's just a very strange game. It's

1602
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,319
you know, disorienting. You do expect it to be a

1603
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:21,159
little bit more like Resident Evil. Even like Resident Evil

1604
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,560
one back on the PlayStation had some like context sensitive

1605
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,479
button presses, right, Like you could walk up to a

1606
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,560
door and if you had an item, it would use

1607
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:31,880
it or did you have to go in your inventory

1608
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,159
and you.

1609
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: If you had the key, Like if you had a

1610
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,640
key to a door, it would be like do you

1611
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:37,920
want to use the club key?

1612
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1613
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,239
Speaker 4: Right, And so this is like, you know, it's just

1614
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,079
like a level above that in terms of being a

1615
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:44,800
little obtuse, and so you do it. You have to

1616
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,359
kind of go through everything and just be like, okay,

1617
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:50,039
I try everything on everything, and then you know it

1618
01:08:50,079 --> 01:08:53,359
does present as a survival whore and it's never scary,

1619
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,840
it's goofy. And then you know it's a sci fi

1620
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,479
story and it's a you know, a telegraph everything from

1621
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:01,119
a mile away.

1622
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's very much the Clones.

1623
01:09:03,159 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 4: It's it's you know, one of those games from Gaming's

1624
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,439
three D infancy, where like they're just like, can we

1625
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,479
do even do this in a game? And it's like, well,

1626
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,199
you couldn't, but we will eventually figure this out.

1627
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 3: It was a ton of fun to watch you play.

1628
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,359
I had one of the more fun Blake Club games

1629
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,840
to watch somebody play. It is a lot of that story.

1630
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,119
And the story is so cheesy and hokey and stupid,

1631
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,359
and the characters are so ridiculous and dumb. I don't

1632
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:32,359
mean like like, oh like this is this is dumb.

1633
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:36,000
I mean they have low IQ's, they are not very

1634
01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:40,479
smart people. That whole aspect of it was incredible, or like,

1635
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,399
you know, there's that you got your little robot front Pepo,

1636
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,960
and I genuinely feel good about people. I like imagining

1637
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:51,319
Pepo and I think it's it's that you're in a

1638
01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:53,279
special club if you know who Pepo is.

1639
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 4: Exactly that right that now, like knowing that, yeah, there's

1640
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,159
people right there for video watchers for like no knowing

1641
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,159
that this does have so much love for people who

1642
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:04,439
watch that super replay and like now I'm like very

1643
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,600
excited to go watch that myself. And uh like we're

1644
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,800
seeing the comments of people on that being like, oh,

1645
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,960
doing another rewatch of this? You know, it's Christmas time.

1646
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,800
I'm gonna sit down. I'm I'm gonna rewatch it all

1647
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,199
the way with, you know, beginning to end. I'm like, yeah,

1648
01:10:16,279 --> 01:10:18,119
I get it that this game would be a fun

1649
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:20,199
thing to just you know, it's very MST three K.

1650
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,840
It's that kind of bad game. Towards the end, I

1651
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,159
compared it to Space Mutiny with the classic ms T

1652
01:10:26,279 --> 01:10:28,800
three caps and I'm like, yeah, that is exactly what

1653
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:29,239
I said.

1654
01:10:29,279 --> 01:10:31,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, that is what this reminds me of.

1655
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:35,159
Speaker 4: You know, we have gotten into some real rotten games

1656
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:38,359
at this point. I think recognizing that there should be

1657
01:10:38,399 --> 01:10:40,880
a space in Blake clip or stuff like Overblood is

1658
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:44,439
like crucial, right because like hokey goofy bad like b

1659
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,520
movie bad like no actual B movie bad is should

1660
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,319
be represented and so like it gave me a bunch

1661
01:10:50,359 --> 01:10:52,600
of ideas likely what it is some games I want

1662
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,039
to recommend for the show going forward.

1663
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: Please let me play Blue Stinger. I've been a good point.

1664
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 2: I know it's your Oh well, Grub has now seen

1665
01:11:00,039 --> 01:11:01,600
what you're gonna look like and he knows what the

1666
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:02,039
game is.

1667
01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:03,520
Speaker 1: Grub, I'm jealous.

1668
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:05,159
Speaker 3: Have you do?

1669
01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the game, Grub?

1670
01:11:07,119 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: I'm going to make myself familiar. I gotta find out

1671
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,359
what this thing's about. I gotta see look like I

1672
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:14,640
do know. That's why I'm jealous.

1673
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:15,199
Speaker 1: It's not a.

1674
01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:18,119
Speaker 2: Particularly tough costume to wear, Mike, We've all worn way harder.

1675
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:21,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've all worn I've worn I'm the one who

1676
01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:24,880
always has to put face pain on something like.

1677
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,319
Speaker 4: And I think that's a rule. Now you're the only

1678
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:27,000
one that ever will.

1679
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic? Was it? You think it was the best

1680
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,560
Blake Club game you've played? Yeah?

1681
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you know what, that's not how thinking about

1682
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,600
when I'm playing it, But it's like it's it was

1683
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,439
the least painful for sure. Like I definitely was like

1684
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,840
happy to be like playing that rather than Blues Brothers

1685
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,640
or some of these other games we thought wouldn't be

1686
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,960
as bad, and like, no, Blues Brothers actually is that bad.

1687
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:52,520
This one is that bad. Had all those weird defenders

1688
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,399
and they're wrong games. Yeah, they just don't. They played

1689
01:11:55,399 --> 01:11:57,119
it literal different game than what I played.

1690
01:11:57,199 --> 01:11:59,520
Speaker 2: Yes, it's funny, like in a weird way, Like over

1691
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,760
Blood is like really important to me in my career.

1692
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,880
And also like I don't know if Blake Club would

1693
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,359
exist in its current form if I had not pulled

1694
01:12:07,359 --> 01:12:10,359
that out in like twenty ten, because it was the

1695
01:12:10,399 --> 01:12:12,119
thing that taught me that like, and I've mentioned before

1696
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:13,760
like super Replay was originally supposed to be like we're

1697
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,800
in new full playthroughs of you know, first two were

1698
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,479
like Mario three and Link to the Past, and then

1699
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,600
like we just I pulled it out of the vault

1700
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,159
one day over like what the fuck is this? I'm

1701
01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:23,039
gonna make ten play this And it was the funniest

1702
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:24,159
shit ever and we played it.

1703
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:26,159
Speaker 1: But the running joke when we used.

1704
01:12:26,079 --> 01:12:29,279
Speaker 2: To record super Replays to completion before we even started

1705
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:31,520
airing them, before we're doing a lot of stuff or anything,

1706
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,279
and I just made a running joke throughout where it's like,

1707
01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:36,000
no one's gonna fucking watch this, this is such a

1708
01:12:36,039 --> 01:12:38,880
bad game. And I started doing this like password system

1709
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,960
every episode, like, all right, if you've made it to

1710
01:12:41,039 --> 01:12:44,720
episode three, the password is wienerless Steve. If you've made

1711
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,000
it to episode five, the password is insane in the

1712
01:12:47,039 --> 01:12:49,600
comments if you know all the passwords. And like we

1713
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,119
were all just joking like, yeah, there's gonna be like

1714
01:12:51,119 --> 01:12:52,960
ten people to watch this whole thing, and it was

1715
01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:55,880
far and away the fucking most popular one. They started

1716
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:57,720
this whole like replay fan group on Facebook that I

1717
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,920
think is still active called I watched it entire Overblood

1718
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,159
Super Replay.

1719
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it brought that up to me.

1720
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was just this huge thing.

1721
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,199
Speaker 2: And like, you know, Navarro came up with like the

1722
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:10,279
Blake Club name and stuff back when when he was

1723
01:13:10,319 --> 01:13:13,399
a giant bomb. But when I started playing Sonic O six,

1724
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,560
you know, it wasn't I didn't have Blake Club in mind.

1725
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,520
I was just like, let's play this bad game. And

1726
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,439
I don't think I would have picked up a bad

1727
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,119
game to play in its entirety if I had not

1728
01:13:22,279 --> 01:13:24,479
seen so long ago that that can be super fun

1729
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,279
for me, and also the audience likes it so like

1730
01:13:27,319 --> 01:13:30,239
in a weird way without overblood and obviously Alex like,

1731
01:13:30,359 --> 01:13:33,159
I don't know if Blake Club exists the way to,

1732
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,039
but it's still so funny, you know.

1733
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: Blike Club is like probably the favorite, my favorite thing

1734
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,159
that I do right professionally.

1735
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: Thing I look forward to every single week. It's the same.

1736
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,039
It's the thing I look at my calendar and I'm like, shit,

1737
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:46,640
we're gonna I got two weeks until the next time.

1738
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,520
I can't wait to, like Jesus costume, I can't.

1739
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I do for some reason. I think

1740
01:13:52,039 --> 01:13:53,600
it's important also.

1741
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 2: Weird like wise, Yeah, you know, we're learning things like

1742
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,920
we've talked before about like Superman Explore. Everyone just talked

1743
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,159
about the Rings and we showed everyone that like a

1744
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:05,159
lot more going on than that exactly.

1745
01:14:05,239 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like important, like I feel

1746
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,039
like for me personally, where it's like I my perspective

1747
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:13,880
on games has widened, like playing all these bad games,

1748
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,079
and I always liked playing bad games, but I would

1749
01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:17,640
just do the thing where I'll I'll play the first

1750
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,600
level and I'm not going to actually beat this game.

1751
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,319
But being you know, we commit to beating the game

1752
01:14:22,359 --> 01:14:25,600
that's the whole thing. And seeing credits on so many

1753
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,920
of these really terrible things, it's like, man, I playing

1754
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,760
bad games is always fun in retrospect, having played a

1755
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,199
bad game is like, man, remember when we when that

1756
01:14:35,279 --> 01:14:37,560
thing happened. It's like and having that and be like

1757
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:39,760
I don't always feel that way when I play a

1758
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,199
game that disappoints me. That it's like a big budget game,

1759
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,840
that's like and then it helps me identify, like what's

1760
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,000
the difference here? Like what is this game missing? And

1761
01:14:47,039 --> 01:14:48,920
so when we talk about that stuff, I feel more

1762
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,960
informed because I've played Diakatana.

1763
01:14:51,359 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 3: There was it was a part when I had to

1764
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,560
play that bad RoboCop game for the original Xbox so

1765
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,399
I just needed to rant and I was screaming about, like.

1766
01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 4: Look at this right now. This is a virtual world

1767
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,439
that was created with what is it? Zero's It's a miracle.

1768
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,600
It's a magic and I and I hate it.

1769
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 3: I think about all the time that even these awful

1770
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,079
games are somehow miracles, and in some way they're almost

1771
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:17,880
more special because nobody cares about them.

1772
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 4: Wait, I mean, like, yeah, go, how do they even

1773
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,119
get across the finish and we know how hard it

1774
01:15:21,159 --> 01:15:22,840
is to make games. Of course, it was easier back

1775
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,279
than than it is today in a lot of ways.

1776
01:15:24,279 --> 01:15:26,439
But still, you know, it took a village to get

1777
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,239
these things done. And you know what was it like

1778
01:15:29,319 --> 01:15:31,600
working there? Like to get it across that finish line.

1779
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,279
It must have been like pulling teeth And somehow so

1780
01:15:34,359 --> 01:15:37,319
many of these games actually did accomplish exactly that. Even

1781
01:15:37,319 --> 01:15:42,039
the game Mike's Gonna play next? Are we just gonna

1782
01:15:42,119 --> 01:15:44,520
after that? Have damn played the nine to eleven games?

1783
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: Watch one with Osama Bin lauded as the final pod.

1784
01:15:52,359 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: I know I've got the beard, but I will not

1785
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:57,119
put my foot down undressing. Does that want to be clear?

1786
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? I want to be clear, Dad, I have zero

1787
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:04,239
interests and seeing you dress up as Osama did allotted.

1788
01:16:04,359 --> 01:16:06,840
I'm not even going to do the obvious name. But

1789
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:12,800
I do think I was at a Halloween party one

1790
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:17,199
year in like the twenty tens, whereas like Dan, what.

1791
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 4: What is that.

1792
01:16:20,359 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: Mean?

1793
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,159
Speaker 4: They were about trying to figure it out? Right, I'll

1794
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:26,880
do it. I was at a Halloween party at a bar.

1795
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,800
It was like the costume contest. It was like, oh,

1796
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:31,800
we go, we got the Ghostbuster and the Joker.

1797
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 3: Some guy dressed up as Osama Bin Wanden like he

1798
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,159
didn't go over very well.

1799
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: It's real weird.

1800
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 4: Although the number number three most sexy fictional character Osama

1801
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,239
bin laden right there behind Batman.

1802
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,079
Speaker 1: Oh going to it? Yeah, one god, I'm sure it's

1803
01:16:49,079 --> 01:16:49,479
still like this.

1804
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: I remember going to a comic con in like twenty

1805
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,359
ten and half the guys were Deadpool and half the

1806
01:16:54,399 --> 01:16:55,600
girls were Harley Quinn.

1807
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh of course. Yeah, there's a big stever when you're

1808
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,720
in college. When Irwin just died, I never thought they

1809
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,800
were hilarious by doing the sting right thing.

1810
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 4: And they have the sting ray sticking out of their

1811
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,079
heart or whatever, just like very cool.

1812
01:17:07,279 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 3: They should have all stopped because nobody was gonna match Norms.

1813
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:14,279
Speaker 1: Steve Irwin, how you do that? That's how you do that,

1814
01:17:14,359 --> 01:17:14,880
Dirk Joe.

1815
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,399
Speaker 3: It was like, I died so young. I think he

1816
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,159
died at a ripe bold age for a.

1817
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 4: Crocodile was tragedy at the time.

1818
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,319
Speaker 3: Two days later.

1819
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: We're just making please please don't make me laugh at this.

1820
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 4: I'm not laugh Tragedy at the time is I don't know,

1821
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,239
maybe the funniest thing anyone's ever said I got.

1822
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 3: I think about it every day.

1823
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:38,359
Speaker 1: He who can laugh?

1824
01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:43,279
Speaker 3: Frank, you don't want to know.

1825
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,199
Speaker 2: God, that's what we joked about Overblood or like Blake

1826
01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:53,439
Love being important, But it really is like we work

1827
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,399
for a corporation that has all sorts of ever changing

1828
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,840
ideas about how to make video games content, and I

1829
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,039
swear to God the thing I'm like, no, you were

1830
01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:04,800
not fucking touching. This is Blake Club. We aired the

1831
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,880
finale today and I was not kidding. I was specifically

1832
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,560
told like, do not let Blake Club go late. You

1833
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,039
need to be in this meeting when it starts, and

1834
01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:14,720
it was clear that we were running a little behind.

1835
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,279
I was just like, look if I get fired, because

1836
01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:18,840
I wanted to see the end of over Blood today.

1837
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: So it's a good way to go out.

1838
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: I guess that's how it happens. The tune in next

1839
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,039
week on the game Best channel for bad.

1840
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,199
Speaker 1: Game Clubs, We'll club.

1841
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:37,520
Speaker 3: I don't care, just we even download the videos and upload.

1842
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 4: I don't give a ship.

1843
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:50,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, glad, we're all liigned on that, Okay, for like hell, yes, yeah.

1844
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,239
Speaker 1: Mike, you played Castable Illusion while you were taking a ship?

1845
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:56,359
Speaker 3: I did, so, Yeah, I have received from Dan a

1846
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,760
Chinese handheld on my own. I know that you two

1847
01:18:59,319 --> 01:19:01,319
love these things. Jeff gave me one to mess around

1848
01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:02,760
with a little bit. Which one was that, Jeff that

1849
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:03,760
I just left at my house.

1850
01:19:04,199 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 4: I think that was an early Ambernick one.

1851
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, the.

1852
01:19:09,399 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: One that I had you play in the steam room

1853
01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:12,640
grub you know what.

1854
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,039
Speaker 4: It might be. I think it might be, Yes, totally.

1855
01:19:15,119 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: This is the Ambernick SP so it has that clamshell

1856
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,520
shape of the Game Boy Advance SP. One of the

1857
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,640
best handhelds ever and just the best form factor for

1858
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,319
one of these. The reason I asked Stan for this

1859
01:19:28,359 --> 01:19:30,319
is because I knew he was like sort of preparing

1860
01:19:30,319 --> 01:19:33,199
them and uh for for family members, and I was like,

1861
01:19:33,359 --> 01:19:35,439
I'll buy one of these from you if you still

1862
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,079
have one. I'm doing this Disney World trip soon. And

1863
01:19:39,319 --> 01:19:42,119
it's funny because I used to always love having my

1864
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:45,800
Game Boy Advance or my DS in my pocket because

1865
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,239
sometimes you're in Disney and you're in a line. There's

1866
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:50,600
not much to do. It's like an hour long line sometimes,

1867
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,079
so you just play something on there. And it's weird

1868
01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:56,039
that that's actually something I've lost now that you know

1869
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,720
those aren't modern systems. I don't really have them ready

1870
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,319
to go like I used to. So sometimes I you know,

1871
01:20:03,359 --> 01:20:05,399
I'm not saying I can't talk to people or look

1872
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:07,000
at my phone. I'll do that stuff with the phone.

1873
01:20:07,079 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, look at what the little game boy in

1874
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:13,000
your pocket said. I was like, yeah, of course, that's

1875
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,159
why I want them to. I imagine myself in a

1876
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:17,920
line at Cedar Point with my Game Boy Advance.

1877
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 3: Sp like that.

1878
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,359
Speaker 4: It makes that feeling is I don't know something about

1879
01:20:21,359 --> 01:20:21,880
it's magical.

1880
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: I kind of go there real quick. I kind of

1881
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:25,479
go the opposite way.

1882
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: Mike is such a like innocent uh, like you know,

1883
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,520
like I'll play it in the line for Pirates the

1884
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,039
Caribbean or whatever. I use mine a lot, But you

1885
01:20:33,079 --> 01:20:34,399
know what, I think about a lot about like why

1886
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,039
I'm glad I have it.

1887
01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 4: On you Like the old game Boy Advance SPADs where

1888
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,319
they're like having sex or whatever and what.

1889
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 2: No, it's because they say, if you ever witnessed something

1890
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,720
unbelievably traumatic, that you should start playing Tetris and it'll

1891
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,039
help their brain process it. So it's like I will think, like, oh,

1892
01:20:49,079 --> 01:20:50,439
if I'm ever like a a mall and there's a

1893
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:50,960
mass shooting.

1894
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,279
Speaker 1: I could just play Tetris real quick.

1895
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 3: There you go. What the hell?

1896
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: I never heard this?

1897
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 4: Wait, they say you should play Tetris.

1898
01:21:00,279 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 3: That is a thing.

1899
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,159
Speaker 1: That's the thing awful that I have.

1900
01:21:04,279 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 2: I've seen some fucked up stuff in real life that like,

1901
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,079
oh I wish I could have just been able to

1902
01:21:08,079 --> 01:21:10,880
play Tetris after seeing that body that just fell off that.

1903
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: Roof of New York City.

1904
01:21:12,199 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 4: Okay, And then the next step of this is that's

1905
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,680
why you want to game Boy Advance with you.

1906
01:21:17,079 --> 01:21:22,319
Speaker 1: That's a little bonus. Okay, angled corpse and the sidewalk.

1907
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:28,479
I could be like, I'll play a little Tetris, that too,

1908
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:28,880
all right?

1909
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 3: Cool? So I bought it for for for Mickey's house.

1910
01:21:37,279 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: That's not why.

1911
01:21:38,079 --> 01:21:43,279
Speaker 2: I like the outside Chinese handheld for preparation of corpses.

1912
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 4: For the impossible pivot.

1913
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,039
Speaker 3: I was excited you had this green one because that's

1914
01:21:48,079 --> 01:21:50,039
the one my childhood one was. I was like, oh.

1915
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did. I did immediately. So you preloaded a

1916
01:21:55,159 --> 01:21:57,000
lot of games on here already, which I appreciate. But

1917
01:21:57,039 --> 01:22:00,760
I did immediately go and add Ridge Racer type on the.

1918
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: Foot right, because the thing is it can do PlayStation stuff.

1919
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,560
But it's a little picky because it doesn't have an

1920
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,039
analog stick. So I think I just feel like something

1921
01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:09,119
the night maybe and like twist.

1922
01:22:09,159 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put sim and I crushed Bandicoot one resume

1923
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,239
on one. But and I was aware of that. I'm like, well,

1924
01:22:14,279 --> 01:22:16,760
I actually play Regester type four of a D pad. Yeah,

1925
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,520
that's I like to play it. So and I already

1926
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,560
played a race on it and it worked great, So great,

1927
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:21,079
that's good.

1928
01:22:21,159 --> 01:22:23,359
Speaker 2: And I also but yeah, they also take up the

1929
01:22:23,359 --> 01:22:25,319
most space too, so that's why it's like I loaded

1930
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,199
everything up so full sets of like any s and

1931
01:22:27,239 --> 01:22:28,880
superintend Like.

1932
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 4: Have you explained your process of like uh, you know,

1933
01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:34,439
uh imprinting the cards and stuff like that, and like

1934
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:35,920
how you do this and buying all these and.

1935
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:39,079
Speaker 2: You've done it once and I've got the image saved

1936
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,439
to clone these SD cards. But I'm gonna have to

1937
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:44,680
redo it, I think because there are a couple of

1938
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,279
settings and they're weird things where it's like I don't

1939
01:22:46,279 --> 01:22:47,800
know why super metroids down on it here or whatever.

1940
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,720
But I think the most important thing I did do

1941
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,359
it is when you get it just from the factory,

1942
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,479
it doesn't do the sp thing where it's like if

1943
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,840
you shut it, it goes into like about that.

1944
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 3: Because it did do I was like, is it gonna

1945
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:00,720
do that? And then it did.

1946
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,039
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh good, I hacked.

1947
01:23:02,039 --> 01:23:04,359
Speaker 2: It doesn't initially do that, but like if you installed

1948
01:23:04,359 --> 01:23:05,840
it is this the one has like MoU os.

1949
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: It's like muos or something.

1950
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 2: You put that on there and you can go into

1951
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,840
some power settings and it loads you straight to like

1952
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,760
the emulator list and all that stuff. So it's like

1953
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,640
it's just a much cleaner, better interface than it comes with.

1954
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,880
And I just bought four more, so I'm gonna have

1955
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,439
to like do this again, so I might go in

1956
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,479
and try to refine like this first batch like that

1957
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,000
you got Mike that was in my first try, so

1958
01:23:25,039 --> 01:23:26,239
I'll probably do it again.

1959
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: But it's already pretty good.

1960
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 3: The only other game I added right now is actually

1961
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,319
the uh is Mother three with the fan translation, because

1962
01:23:33,359 --> 01:23:37,399
I finally played Earthbound relatively recently after years of not

1963
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,720
being able to get into it and freaking loved it,

1964
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,840
and people go off about Mother.

1965
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: Three also and straight yeah, so I actually excited after this.

1966
01:23:47,039 --> 01:23:50,119
Speaker 2: I have a couple questions related to that, but yeah,

1967
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,159
these things are awesome. I just love like you know,

1968
01:23:52,199 --> 01:23:54,039
I was on a next Lander thing a couple of

1969
01:23:54,079 --> 01:23:56,960
days ago and I was talking about these and Alex

1970
01:23:57,079 --> 01:23:59,359
was like, oh, these things are probably really cheap and shitty, right,

1971
01:23:59,399 --> 01:24:01,159
It's like, no, they're actually awesome.

1972
01:24:01,279 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: Place.

1973
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: They started off cheap and shitty, and then they the

1974
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,520
competition of like all these companies working against each other

1975
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:07,840
forced them to make it better.

1976
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 3: And it's you know, it's it's awesome.

1977
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,119
Speaker 2: It's good screens, good USBC chargings. A lot of them

1978
01:24:12,159 --> 01:24:14,439
will just come with the like tempered glass screen protector.

1979
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,840
There's a million great YouTube channels and videos of just

1980
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,319
like here's how to load this up in the right way.

1981
01:24:19,359 --> 01:24:21,279
Speaker 4: And I mean it's it's all the manufacturing plants that

1982
01:24:21,359 --> 01:24:24,159
make the expensive stuff as well. They're all made in China.

1983
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,399
So it's like this is like when like one of

1984
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,760
those products gets like deprecated or whatever, someone just comes

1985
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,359
along as they're like, well, let's makes what can we

1986
01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:33,760
do with this place that makes a bunch of LCD screens,

1987
01:24:34,119 --> 01:24:35,800
And someone has the bright idea like, well let's make

1988
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,119
tiny little you know, Chinese handhelds. And it's it's the

1989
01:24:38,159 --> 01:24:40,880
same stuff, just now it's being like sold at a

1990
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,920
lower cost because that doesn't have the overhead of like

1991
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,439
an American corporation needed to get it's cut. It's yeah,

1992
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:46,319
it's a good situation.

1993
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: I'm I'm pretty excited that there's a bunch of Sega

1994
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,600
Master games on here, because as much I love Sega,

1995
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,119
I never really played much. Master System wasn't much of

1996
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:56,479
a thing in the US, and I watch a lot

1997
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,600
of retro gaming channels and a lot of them we'll

1998
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,159
talk about best Masters, syste some games. It's all these

1999
01:25:01,159 --> 01:25:03,439
things I haven't played. There's a lot of Disney games

2000
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,279
on the Master System. There's two Mickey Mouse ones, there's

2001
01:25:06,279 --> 01:25:09,000
two Donald Duck ones. They're all supposed to be good,

2002
01:25:09,239 --> 01:25:11,880
a bunch of other weird stuff. So I'm like probably

2003
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,359
gonna play a lot of Master System games on this thing,

2004
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:15,840
and that's very exciting to me.

2005
01:25:16,399 --> 01:25:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've had people ask that, like, look, you know,

2006
01:25:19,359 --> 01:25:22,439
I have an analog analog pocket and it's fantastic, and like,

2007
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,079
you know, I've had people ask, oh, and thats supposed

2008
01:25:24,079 --> 01:25:24,560
to be the best one.

2009
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: Why don't you just use that? And it's like, I

2010
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:26,760
don't know.

2011
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,319
Speaker 2: I like to play old games in any circumstance, not

2012
01:25:29,359 --> 01:25:30,880
like people to take them on the go and stuff.

2013
01:25:31,159 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 1: And for me, it's like different use cases.

2014
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,039
Speaker 2: Like the pocket is the one where it's like recently

2015
01:25:35,039 --> 01:25:37,079
I've been playing through the Warrior Land games and stuff

2016
01:25:37,079 --> 01:25:38,720
where it's like I'm gonna sit down, like while I'm

2017
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,359
sitting here at home watching raw in the background, I'm

2018
01:25:41,399 --> 01:25:44,560
playing on the analog. But that is the more kind

2019
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,640
of high end expensive one. It's also a little bigger,

2020
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,920
a little heavier and stuff. So like something like this

2021
01:25:49,079 --> 01:25:51,159
like the sp where the screen is not exposed, or

2022
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:53,600
I love the the trim Ui brick. That one's actually

2023
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,439
Rick's awesome. That one's so awesome. And they're smaller you

2024
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:57,680
can literally fit them in your pocket.

2025
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 3: It's so tiny. It's such a good form factor. The

2026
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:00,920
show is so good.

2027
01:26:01,159 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if something the worst case, which I've never

2028
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:05,800
had anything like this break, but like if it did,

2029
01:26:06,079 --> 01:26:08,239
this isn't two hundred bucks like the right you know,

2030
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:09,760
you get these un sale for like fifty you know.

2031
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a different use cases.

2032
01:26:13,039 --> 01:26:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never bought any of the ones that are

2033
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,039
like one hundred and fifty plus that can do like

2034
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,119
you know, maybe PS three games. And I know there's

2035
01:26:21,119 --> 01:26:22,640
some people interested in that, but like, whenever I get

2036
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,199
to that point, I'm like steam Deck, I got my

2037
01:26:25,239 --> 01:26:27,000
steam Deck. I will just go back to the steam

2038
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,840
deck because the price is getting a little bit questionable

2039
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,520
at that point, and the use case becomes a little

2040
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:33,800
like sure, I would like to be able to play

2041
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,319
I guess PS three games on the go, but those

2042
01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:37,239
games aren't really made with that in mind, and.

2043
01:26:38,079 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 2: Resistance exactly, pware. I'm playing Tetris during Master.

2044
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 4: Tietiflood on the sand, I can wait until I'm home.

2045
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many eight bit and sixteen bit games

2046
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,239
that I'm interested in. We want, like want to play

2047
01:26:51,239 --> 01:26:53,880
for the first time or replay. That's that's enough for.

2048
01:26:54,039 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 2: They're the best one, or yeah you got twenty minutes

2049
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:58,439
until you're playing lands. Yeah, boot this up for a

2050
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:00,439
little bit, and I got a couple of Warrior where chunks,

2051
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:01,119
you know, and.

2052
01:27:01,039 --> 01:27:03,239
Speaker 4: Then if you need something else you can Yeah, Tony Hawk.

2053
01:27:03,119 --> 01:27:06,199
Speaker 1: Will work great. Yeah, Yeah, it's a They're They're fucking awesome.

2054
01:27:06,199 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: I love my get a lot of use out of them,

2055
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,439
and even just the ritual of like getting a new

2056
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,760
one and like looking up the videos on the best

2057
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,640
way to like switch out the UI and load up

2058
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,079
all the games. Figure out like, okay, I've got this much,

2059
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:17,079
I got sixty four gigs. Here's what I'm gonna put

2060
01:27:17,119 --> 01:27:19,199
on this one. You know, Like I.

2061
01:27:19,159 --> 01:27:21,199
Speaker 4: Think these things are only going to become more prominent

2062
01:27:21,279 --> 01:27:23,840
as I think consoles in general are going to become

2063
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,600
more and more of a hobbyist thing, right, sure, so

2064
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,439
it's good that we're all getting prepared for this reality.

2065
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:36,239
Speaker 2: Honestly, yes, all right, well I think the covers, Like

2066
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:37,920
like I said, we we're talking about the new games

2067
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,199
all the time. We want to check us out on

2068
01:27:39,279 --> 01:27:43,079
Giant Bomb and also game mess decides last than in

2069
01:27:43,079 --> 01:27:45,560
ten Dogs. That's a thank you for the podcast that

2070
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,000
Greba and I put out there.

2071
01:27:47,039 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Great stuff.

2072
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 2: And uh, I want to ask you maybe this is

2073
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,159
a different angle here. I'm about to spend dozens of

2074
01:27:54,159 --> 01:27:58,159
hours on planes, like in the next month, more than

2075
01:27:58,199 --> 01:28:00,840
one overseas strip I've got pack, I've got a lot

2076
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,760
coming up, and I always, as someone who doesn't like flying,

2077
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,000
I like to make sure I'm like over prepared in

2078
01:28:06,119 --> 01:28:09,439
terms of games. But there is that like choice paralysis thing,

2079
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,159
so I have I'm planning on bringing the first one.

2080
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:15,159
I'm going on is actually by the time this episode

2081
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:18,039
goes up, I'll be in a different country. So I'm

2082
01:28:18,039 --> 01:28:22,000
bringing the Steam deck and I'm bringing I can't said

2083
01:28:22,039 --> 01:28:24,159
I'm doing the analog or maybe the trim. You why,

2084
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,640
but let me here's here's what I'm looking at here

2085
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,319
and tell me what you guys would think in terms

2086
01:28:29,319 --> 01:28:31,000
of like a playing game, because I want to, like

2087
01:28:31,239 --> 01:28:33,000
I have a billion ready to go and downloaded, but

2088
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,359
I want to be able to focus on something and

2089
01:28:34,359 --> 01:28:35,520
be like, oh, I'm gonna beat this or I'm going

2090
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:39,479
to really spend sure, sure, sure, Okay, the dominant collection.

2091
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,239
I haven't gone through order Evercclesia, that's an Oh, that's

2092
01:28:42,279 --> 01:28:42,840
a no brainer.

2093
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: That's gonna be good. Crash four never really played through that.

2094
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 3: Crash four is great. I love Crash for it. I

2095
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,199
like it's my favorite Crash game. It's definitely the best

2096
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:54,119
one best Crash game. Okay, yes, no, it is. It

2097
01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:56,880
is beyond good and evil. The twentieth anniversary Mike told

2098
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,119
me about that. I said it was really good.

2099
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 4: It was, yeah, it's surprising good. I think that game

2100
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,600
falls off a little bit towards.

2101
01:29:02,239 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 3: The end, so but still it's when that first hour

2102
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,720
is actually fantastic, you know, that's just what you play.

2103
01:29:09,079 --> 01:29:11,520
It is magical, just thin, like, man, this was really

2104
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:13,920
good for you know. Of course the log games are

2105
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,439
good back then, but it almost feels like the first

2106
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,279
three sixty era game to meet in some ways. I wonder, oh,

2107
01:29:20,319 --> 01:29:21,680
if you'll agree when you play it.

2108
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,039
Speaker 1: It's just it's a little bit XBLA. I played through it.

2109
01:29:24,039 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 2: I just haven't played through since the XBLA version, and

2110
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:27,760
I think it's really neat.

2111
01:29:28,279 --> 01:29:30,279
Speaker 3: We're all going to play the sequel here any minute now.

2112
01:29:30,359 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: Right that next month, I think, yeah, I got a

2113
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,319
hat in Time, which h er let me. I'll solve

2114
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,760
an old giant bomb mystery that people have wondered at

2115
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,279
one point. You might have seen a coming soon or

2116
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,439
later this week, a quick look of hat and time,

2117
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:48,479
and then it mysteriously disappeared.

2118
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: And there were some Reddit threads and NeoGAF things. What

2119
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:51,279
happened here?

2120
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't remember the deal, but I did prep a

2121
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:56,720
quick look for had in time, and I remember really

2122
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,399
liking it, and it was ready to go.

2123
01:29:58,479 --> 01:29:59,079
Speaker 1: We recorded it.

2124
01:29:59,079 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 2: I think I was a giant bumby at the time, maybe,

2125
01:30:01,159 --> 01:30:04,520
And there was some sort of like internet drama, some

2126
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:05,319
socialmedia thing.

2127
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,119
Speaker 3: It was like what.

2128
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,520
Speaker 4: What's the name or something like what was his name?

2129
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,800
The guy that was on John Tron? John Tron, Yeah,

2130
01:30:12,199 --> 01:30:15,039
he was. It was like about the creator. No, that

2131
01:30:15,079 --> 01:30:16,920
was you're thinking, you're thinking of ukulele and the voice

2132
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:17,800
John Troun did a voice.

2133
01:30:18,319 --> 01:30:20,399
Speaker 3: You're right, there was there was. There was a drama

2134
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:21,119
with a hat in time.

2135
01:30:21,279 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: It was so like because we're kind of fighting against

2136
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,239
it because I was like, I don't think anyone knows

2137
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:27,000
about this, because like I hadn't heard about this, and

2138
01:30:27,039 --> 01:30:29,520
I saw the guy popping up on other outlets and stuff,

2139
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:30,760
so it's like it wasn't the thing where like this

2140
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,079
guy was like roundly canceled. But I remember not really

2141
01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:34,640
knowing what the deal was, and I was like, let's

2142
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:35,159
just put it up.

2143
01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: It's not like a John Tron.

2144
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 3: Wasn't John Tron is also in a hatt and time

2145
01:30:39,039 --> 01:30:39,199
is he?

2146
01:30:39,279 --> 01:30:39,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

2147
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,199
Speaker 4: I think it was John Tron because John Tron said

2148
01:30:42,199 --> 01:30:43,960
some white strim ship, because that I.

2149
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:44,720
Speaker 1: Would have understood.

2150
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:49,119
Speaker 2: This was something about like like creator like lightly docs

2151
01:30:49,359 --> 01:30:53,079
someone like years. I can't remember his accidental or something,

2152
01:30:53,119 --> 01:30:55,119
but I remember it was so kind of obscure that

2153
01:30:55,199 --> 01:30:56,720
like I tried to look it up and I was

2154
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,680
struggling to figure out what the thing was. I remember

2155
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:01,399
being like, like, we whyt to just put this up.

2156
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,520
This isn't like some weird Nazi thing or something like that.

2157
01:31:04,079 --> 01:31:05,840
But the call was made to like, let's not put

2158
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,119
it up.

2159
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 4: So for anyone who I remember something, I remember something

2160
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,680
a with hat and time, and I was so excited

2161
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,039
about it, and then it happened and I'm like, I

2162
01:31:13,039 --> 01:31:15,159
don't want to play it now. I remember feeling that way.

2163
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:16,560
I don't remember exactly the details.

2164
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,520
Speaker 3: I'm Chris, what you think, because like, I love three

2165
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,199
D platformers and I tried to place on switch and

2166
01:31:21,279 --> 01:31:23,920
it just it ran very poorly on switch, so I

2167
01:31:24,079 --> 01:31:26,479
just couldn't really stick with it. But if you think

2168
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:28,399
there's something special there, I definitely would try to play

2169
01:31:28,399 --> 01:31:29,159
it some other way.

2170
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I kind of want to go back here,

2171
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,279
because I actually never went back after that quickly was recorded,

2172
01:31:33,319 --> 01:31:34,920
and I remember thinking like, oh, this is pretty fucking good.

2173
01:31:35,039 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: So I'm in a three D platformer mood lately.

2174
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:41,399
Speaker 3: Right right, you started SpongeBob SquarePants Rehydrated.

2175
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:43,159
Speaker 2: I did that quick stream and it was good. I

2176
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:45,000
didn't keep going on it. I should have that downloaded.

2177
01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:46,720
Like it's just like on a plan especially, it's good

2178
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,880
to just have some like turn your brain off type

2179
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:51,000
stuff like that. I've got some obvious ones here that

2180
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:52,560
I've played before that I know will be great. You

2181
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,960
got into the breach Across three D with the stylus

2182
01:31:55,039 --> 01:31:56,560
on my phone say Across. Oh.

2183
01:31:57,159 --> 01:31:59,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys ever played pick Cross,

2184
01:31:59,399 --> 01:32:01,399
but I've been playing. I played a ton of Pitcross.

2185
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:02,399
I beat the Danny.

2186
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 2: You you know what's happening right Nowross on the switch online.

2187
01:32:08,279 --> 01:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. After years of.

2188
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,039
Speaker 4: Not just me but primarily me being like, hey, Mike,

2189
01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:15,880
Pitcross is awesome. Pickcross three D one of the best

2190
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,359
games ever, He's like, yeah, I don't get it. Then

2191
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,359
three D he has not done three three Okay, you

2192
01:32:21,399 --> 01:32:23,039
gotta do that now. But like, yeah, why you would

2193
01:32:23,119 --> 01:32:24,520
least see Pitcross now because that's.

2194
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:25,159
Speaker 1: He loves it.

2195
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it was like, it's not some short

2196
01:32:28,359 --> 01:32:30,720
thing to beat all the puzzles in the game Boy version.

2197
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,640
It was like fifteen hours of gameplay or something. It's

2198
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,039
the only thing I wanted to do.

2199
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 4: There's a great Konami mobile game that has a bunch

2200
01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:44,000
of of those, Well, I figure with that, like the Pixel.

2201
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 1: Collection or something. Yeah, it's yeah Pixel.

2202
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,079
Speaker 4: They have that Japanese super Famicom one on Nisola. Tried

2203
01:32:51,119 --> 01:32:53,800
playing that, but I thought, like others, won't be a

2204
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,079
game where the Japanese matters too much. But the very

2205
01:32:56,119 --> 01:32:58,399
first thing I did was it was like a Japanese

2206
01:32:58,479 --> 01:32:59,960
symbol was the Pitcross puzzle.

2207
01:33:00,399 --> 01:33:02,359
Speaker 3: It's clearly supposed to mean something. I was like, okay,

2208
01:33:02,399 --> 01:33:03,600
well maybe maybe not this one.

2209
01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Well, I swear my try three D. It is the

2210
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,680
pinnacle of anyone really likes an enthusiast three D.

2211
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 4: You're gonna it's gonna be It's if you like Pitcross

2212
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,079
at all, You're you're gonna be blown away.

2213
01:33:13,119 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 3: But it's like, at first I was like, okay, I

2214
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,039
just guys, I just only now understood Pitcross.

2215
01:33:17,079 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not ready.

2216
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 3: And now I'm like I'm ready.

2217
01:33:19,079 --> 01:33:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm ready.

2218
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 3: I got this.

2219
01:33:22,119 --> 01:33:22,520
Speaker 1: Obviously.

2220
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,199
Speaker 2: Slay the Spier is one of those games I started

2221
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:25,640
and I was like, this is awesome. I never kept

2222
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,720
going with it. Rogue Legacy two I never played past

2223
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,399
early access Mario Golf. I played a decent amount on

2224
01:33:30,399 --> 01:33:32,960
the analog, and I want to finish. Oh do have

2225
01:33:33,079 --> 01:33:34,880
chib Robo on here, but I think now I'm gonna

2226
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,439
wait for the switch to sure, yeah I should wait.

2227
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm the opposite because I have a copy of gb

2228
01:33:41,079 --> 01:33:43,560
Robo for GameCube and I'm like, okay, I want to

2229
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,399
maybe actually finally play that before the switch too comes in.

2230
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 2: Oh nice, I I so this is one here is

2231
01:33:51,039 --> 01:33:53,920
Warrior or no, sorry not Warland, Earthbound and Mother three.

2232
01:33:54,279 --> 01:33:57,279
So that's what I wanted to ask about, was so

2233
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,279
those those seem like they'd be good playing games, you know,

2234
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,399
And I was asking grub like, oh, would there be

2235
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,439
an analog thing or should I play on like Steam Deck?

2236
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,600
I think, like, probably good analog even even though earth

2237
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:08,159
Bound was.

2238
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,520
Speaker 4: From other three for sure, I've not I've tried earth

2239
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:12,920
Bound a couple of times and I got started. I

2240
01:34:13,039 --> 01:34:14,479
was really into it one time, but I have not

2241
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,600
played past that. I know that there are some quirks

2242
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:20,199
of it being an older RPG that that might make

2243
01:34:20,279 --> 01:34:22,479
that better if you can have some safe states, like

2244
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:23,000
you could.

2245
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 3: Say that's just on Nso so I played it on

2246
01:34:25,039 --> 01:34:28,520
switch and yeah, yeah, it's just on NFL.

2247
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,199
Speaker 1: If I'm bringing the switch though, I mean, I've got.

2248
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:37,600
Speaker 3: Right because like Earthbound is surprisingly more of an relatively

2249
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,239
old school jeripey than you might expect, so that you're

2250
01:34:40,279 --> 01:34:42,199
going to do some things like grinding, and you might

2251
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,600
have times where, oh I died to a random battle,

2252
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,720
and do I really want to lose all that progress

2253
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,319
and go back to the safe thing, or do I

2254
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,720
just want to rewind a little bit before that?

2255
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: It's kind of nice to have rewind.

2256
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 4: Just make sure that the emulator set up with rewind, which.

2257
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,399
Speaker 3: You should not be against that to be clear. Yeah,

2258
01:34:58,399 --> 01:35:00,760
that's why you want to do something that has rewind.

2259
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 2: And you know, I think the reason I could see

2260
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,039
myself going through this game instead of finally playing through

2261
01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:07,960
Final Fantasy six or something is because, like I think

2262
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:10,760
it might not so much be the j RPG menu

2263
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:11,800
stuff that I always thought.

2264
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,039
Speaker 1: I think I think the Fantasy stuff might be yeah.

2265
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 3: Different, that's your if that's your hang up. Even like

2266
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,199
when I played through Earthbound just you know, a few

2267
01:35:20,279 --> 01:35:24,479
months ago, I still think it's whole suburban weirdness kind

2268
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:28,479
of Twin Peaks thing is fantastic. The vibe and aesthetic

2269
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:32,000
of that game is still really freaking good.

2270
01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Mark, I love them so good, Marion, Luigi and paper

2271
01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:37,319
Mari and stuff. I fucking love those, and those are

2272
01:35:37,399 --> 01:35:39,039
just turn based arbudies. I know they have the like

2273
01:35:39,079 --> 01:35:41,159
timing stuff and everything, but like Free.

2274
01:35:41,079 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 4: Has some time and stuff in it. That's what was

2275
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,199
one of the things I like about it so much.

2276
01:35:44,279 --> 01:35:45,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So I do need to I need to get

2277
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:46,920
that from someone.

2278
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: I may I may have sought you a message archiving

2279
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:52,760
site on the internet.

2280
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,399
Speaker 2: Oh cool, that's smart. Okay, Yes, I should play that.

2281
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:56,520
And the translation is good.

2282
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: People who love the fan translation say it's amazing.

2283
01:36:00,039 --> 01:36:04,319
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, some early big emotional moments and the best

2284
01:36:04,319 --> 01:36:06,760
thing about Marther three is all like, remember it was

2285
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,359
gonna be like it was gonna be a sixty four.

2286
01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: GDA sixty four game.

2287
01:36:10,079 --> 01:36:12,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, and all the images of it is a sixty

2288
01:36:12,199 --> 01:36:14,119
four d D game where all these characters that had

2289
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:16,479
like looked really distinct, well, it's like they took those

2290
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,479
characters and just put them into the Game Boy Advance

2291
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,800
and they made them Game Boy Advance distinct. So they

2292
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,399
are all these really cool looking characters and they all

2293
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,199
like either like in the little village, and they're all

2294
01:36:25,279 --> 01:36:26,720
kind of getting along and they all know each other.

2295
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:30,000
But then something terrible happens and the characters are emoting

2296
01:36:30,079 --> 01:36:33,800
and really affecting ways, and uh yeah, it's it's good stuff.

2297
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Now Here, here's the big question.

2298
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,560
Speaker 2: If I know I want to do one of these,

2299
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,840
at least on the plane, can I just go to

2300
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,159
Mother three without knowing Earthbound?

2301
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 3: It's it is, it is a it is a sequel

2302
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,760
in some way. It's not a ton so I think

2303
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,159
you can. The one thing I think you're going to

2304
01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:53,680
bristle against him earth Bound even bother me a bit

2305
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:58,520
is the inventory management is kind of a nuisence. It's

2306
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,000
it's the Dragon questyle where each character has their own

2307
01:37:01,079 --> 01:37:05,000
inventory and it's a max inventory, and it's relatively small,

2308
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,199
and there's a system in the game you can call

2309
01:37:07,279 --> 01:37:09,520
your sister and she'll come and pick up items for you.

2310
01:37:10,039 --> 01:37:12,560
But it's a little bit annoying. I don't know if

2311
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,039
Mother three does the same thing, Jeff.

2312
01:37:14,119 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 4: Mother Three's got a limited inventory. But you're basically you

2313
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,920
solve that just by feeling good about using items all

2314
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:20,199
the time.

2315
01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's very part of my problem.

2316
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a really yeah, scene like Chris Redfield and

2317
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,479
Reside Evil one and just be like the eight is

2318
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:29,760
not nearly enough with Jill.

2319
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,199
Speaker 3: I've still never beaten resnievl one with Chris. I'm always like, look,

2320
01:37:34,199 --> 01:37:36,840
I think Jill's a better character and she's got way

2321
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:37,760
more inventory space.

2322
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play as her every time. I never

2323
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:41,159
plays Grace.

2324
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 3: No. Yeah, it's some part of me like, maybe I should.

2325
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,239
I want to play that remake again. That remake is

2326
01:37:46,279 --> 01:37:48,239
still so freaking good for Resident Evil.

2327
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,079
Speaker 2: Oh god, wellmake ther least favorite.

2328
01:37:57,119 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 3: Sorry, you know, like now that you're so blue, Prince Pote,

2329
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,319
have you thought about checking out the mysterymake.

2330
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,039
Speaker 1: I didn't really realize they remade it, but I would not.

2331
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,119
Speaker 3: They remade that a bit ago, and then they remade Riven,

2332
01:38:11,279 --> 01:38:13,720
the sequel to Miss Yet last year. People actually say

2333
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,239
that remakes great? Yeah, people raved about that.

2334
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I have to do that on record Roulette.

2335
01:38:19,399 --> 01:38:20,960
Oh wait, I don't think I have that anymore. Okay,

2336
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,239
maybe I'll just play it for myself.

2337
01:38:24,359 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we got our own Twitch channels whatever.

2338
01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll figure it out, I think.

2339
01:38:28,319 --> 01:38:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2340
01:38:29,399 --> 01:38:32,039
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then yes I will start at least one

2341
01:38:32,079 --> 01:38:34,800
of those like Earthbound or Mother three on the plane.

2342
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,680
Last question before we take a break for emails, here

2343
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:41,199
is speaking on this plane stuff fellas. I Uh, this

2344
01:38:41,359 --> 01:38:43,159
is a tough thing, and I want everyone to feel

2345
01:38:43,199 --> 01:38:46,439
bad for me. But after going to the last twelve

2346
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:52,760
WrestleManias in person, I will not only not be attending

2347
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,479
this year's WrestleMania, but I will be on a plane

2348
01:38:56,079 --> 01:38:59,560
during Night two, during Cody Roads versus John Cina. I

2349
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,880
will be home for Night one, but I'm leaving at

2350
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:06,600
ten am the next morning, and I'm also flying that

2351
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,600
in a place that does not have Wi Fi, so

2352
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,199
that's not even possibility. So Mike, here, here's my two

2353
01:39:11,279 --> 01:39:13,439
options here, and let me know what you think sounds

2354
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,399
better for me. I can either tell everyone I know

2355
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,600
not to text me for a week and hope that

2356
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,840
it's not spoiled, and I can download it to my

2357
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,359
Peacock Gap before the flight home, and that sounds like

2358
01:39:24,399 --> 01:39:26,760
a sweet four or five hours on a plane is

2359
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,279
watching WrestleMania for the first time. Or I am going

2360
01:39:30,319 --> 01:39:32,279
to a thing in Japan where I will have friends

2361
01:39:32,359 --> 01:39:35,960
there that are also into wrestling. Jake Beep, where I

2362
01:39:36,039 --> 01:39:38,760
said where I'm going, I guess, I guess that's not

2363
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:39,680
an embargo breaker.

2364
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 4: Now people go to Japan all the time, you're fine.

2365
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:44,359
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to Japan for fun.

2366
01:39:45,319 --> 01:39:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all my several other friends are going to

2367
01:39:48,359 --> 01:39:50,560
be there for fun also at the same time. And

2368
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,079
one of them, I was kind of dming, like, oh, yeah,

2369
01:39:54,079 --> 01:39:55,159
what are you doing about Mania? What do you know

2370
01:39:55,239 --> 01:39:56,760
about Mania? You're gonna be on a flight during that too,

2371
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,359
and yeah yeah, and he said like, well, we got

2372
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:00,880
to do like a watch party at the hotel when

2373
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,720
we get there. And I was like, oh, that does

2374
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:07,319
sound like a really interesting fun ways like watching WrestleMania.

2375
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,079
Speaker 4: Japanese foods and Japanese beer, sit down and watch WrestleMania.

2376
01:40:10,319 --> 01:40:11,720
That sounds the hell of a night to me.

2377
01:40:12,359 --> 01:40:14,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, rather than just saving it just for the sake

2378
01:40:14,319 --> 01:40:15,800
of like killing time on a plane.

2379
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 4: And you can always save it on the other side. Yeah, yeah,

2380
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:19,359
here's what I think.

2381
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:22,600
Speaker 3: I think that instead of this stupid pity party for yourself,

2382
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:27,319
you should think about me, who was kind of confident, like, oh, man,

2383
01:40:27,399 --> 01:40:29,640
Dan's gone to every wrestleing forever, but it's gonna go

2384
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,760
to this one and I'll probably get to go with

2385
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:35,439
him this time. It's gonna be great. Oh he can't go.

2386
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,479
Oh yes, you go to Japan.

2387
01:40:38,399 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 2: That's really boring thing that I'm gonna hate.

2388
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:45,119
Speaker 1: Mike, Yeah, very much.

2389
01:40:45,159 --> 01:40:46,079
Speaker 3: Fun. We had it all in.

2390
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 1: We went and we went to Summer Slam together.

2391
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,239
Speaker 3: We wish at least go to a wrestling show this

2392
01:40:52,359 --> 01:40:53,720
year together with the figures of the Gether.

2393
01:40:54,079 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 4: SummerSlam kicked the ass with us three Summer's so much

2394
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,399
for some stuff in the West again this year?

2395
01:40:58,439 --> 01:40:59,520
Speaker 3: Right, aren't they doing a big show?

2396
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 1: Was mrre sliam Is next year? Indianapolis got all this

2397
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:03,319
ship this year?

2398
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 3: Where are they?

2399
01:41:05,159 --> 01:41:06,119
Speaker 4: Like, right, that's between us?

2400
01:41:06,199 --> 01:41:09,399
Speaker 3: So right? That's that was the thing too. It's like

2401
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,560
this wrestle is not even that far. It's like right

2402
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,680
in between us. It's not even that far away far

2403
01:41:16,319 --> 01:41:19,239
the veggest right. Yeah. Restaurant bad, that's my bad, My bad.

2404
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,479
Royal rumble was part of me was like, oh we

2405
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,239
should go, and then it was just kind of busy

2406
01:41:25,399 --> 01:41:26,039
and ship.

2407
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,239
Speaker 1: Got the Summer Slam and like Survivor sers or something.

2408
01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:32,199
Speaker 3: I also haven't been to Vegas and forever. I kind

2409
01:41:32,199 --> 01:41:33,239
of want to go to Vegas again.

2410
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 4: And we'll come up with the excuse eventually.

2411
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yes, I would like to watch wrestling

2412
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:40,159
with you fellas again. But yeah, so maybe I should.

2413
01:41:40,239 --> 01:41:42,319
Maybe I'm leaning towards washing it in Japan.

2414
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:45,880
Speaker 4: I would That's what I would do. That would be

2415
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:47,000
that makes much.

2416
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,199
Speaker 3: Get me get me a jacket from Riberta.

2417
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 2: My hotel is an eight minute walk. I already have

2418
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,479
plans with somebodys to go to Roberta, so that's gonna

2419
01:41:58,479 --> 01:41:58,800
be great.

2420
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:04,039
Speaker 3: We did that show with Samoa Joe and that was amazing. Yeah,

2421
01:42:04,159 --> 01:42:05,479
and I kind of told my friends. I told my

2422
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,000
friends I was doing it, and they thought it was

2423
01:42:07,039 --> 01:42:09,000
really neat. But I didn't end up like sending them

2424
01:42:09,039 --> 01:42:11,800
the link because we did end up we ended up

2425
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,479
talking about my testicles a lot during it. I just

2426
01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:18,000
I didn't know how they were going to react to that, Like.

2427
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 2: Do they not listen to any of other stuff? Because

2428
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:21,039
I feel like your balls come up plenty.

2429
01:42:21,399 --> 01:42:24,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, your balls are the main star on our shows.

2430
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:26,520
The one does listen to nineties Disney even though it's

2431
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:28,319
not that into it. But like a lot of my

2432
01:42:29,039 --> 01:42:33,039
high school friends and stuff were not very big into

2433
01:42:33,159 --> 01:42:36,000
video games, right, which is it's pretty weird. Like I

2434
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:38,840
always in my house was like, okay, I like video

2435
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:41,039
games way more than the other people I know in

2436
01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:41,520
my life.

2437
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 3: Even though other people seem to like the games. Fine,

2438
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,800
yeah right, so no, like you know, they're they're very

2439
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,760
supportive of me and things like that, but they don't

2440
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,680
have any interest in listening to we talked about video games.

2441
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Some of them do, but I most don't.

2442
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,159
Speaker 2: That's so interesting to me that, like, more than anyone

2443
01:42:56,199 --> 01:42:58,039
I know, you are the guy that, like I feel,

2444
01:42:58,079 --> 01:43:00,319
has no shame whatsoever, and like you'll get up and

2445
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,399
bolt out karaoke in front of everyone you don't care,

2446
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:05,840
Like it's I look, it's genuinely quality. I think it's

2447
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,800
fantastic about you. It's funny that Smoejoe talking about your

2448
01:43:10,239 --> 01:43:13,960
balls is the thing that causes you. The two things

2449
01:43:14,079 --> 01:43:17,479
Mojoe talking about your testicles and uh songs from your

2450
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:18,760
Jesus musicals.

2451
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:23,159
Speaker 3: Part of it. Like like like the one friend especially

2452
01:43:23,239 --> 01:43:24,520
and he is one of my closest friends. But he

2453
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,600
also I had a lot of friends in like the

2454
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,199
advanced programs. They were like the smartest kids in the

2455
01:43:30,279 --> 01:43:32,800
school and stuff like that. And his friend he teaches.

2456
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 4: Classics now university and like he also loves wrestling. Right,

2457
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:40,119
it's not he's like super hoity toity, but I know

2458
01:43:40,319 --> 01:43:43,680
he would be like a little off put and like

2459
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:45,399
that it's some like weird way he would like make

2460
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,000
fun of me for it. But I also I don't

2461
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,520
want to have that conversation of him try making me

2462
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,680
explain to him why it was actually okay that Samoa

2463
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,159
Joe talked about my testicles.

2464
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:58,399
Speaker 1: So funny that that actually just happened. Yeah, it's really

2465
01:43:58,399 --> 01:43:59,760
weird for me. I think it's a normal thing.

2466
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:01,520
Speaker 4: Because it'll be in the history books.

2467
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:08,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. Think he just the kind of person like if

2468
01:44:08,239 --> 01:44:10,119
I ever did meet him, he's gonna remember all of that.

2469
01:44:10,239 --> 01:44:13,520
Speaker 2: We're just gonna lead with the grape swallowing because he

2470
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,520
definitely that made an impact on him.

2471
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 1: Okay, guy swallows grapes whole swallows.

2472
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:26,079
Speaker 2: Look up boyemail dump truck with Samoa Joe. Fantastic fucking episode.

2473
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 3: Man, I've got to do some fun things thanks to

2474
01:44:29,039 --> 01:44:31,239
you two in recent years. I'll tell you what it's

2475
01:44:31,319 --> 01:44:34,279
been better. It's funny. I like I've been doing this

2476
01:44:34,399 --> 01:44:37,359
for a while. If there's some reasons, uh, like over

2477
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:38,880
on the games beats and I had to kind of

2478
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,000
like look through some old stuff. It's like, gosh, I

2479
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,119
can't believe I've been doing this for twelve years or

2480
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:45,359
more than that, because it's only like the last few

2481
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:49,880
years where it's been this real whirlwind roller coaster rid

2482
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:54,399
of just constantly doing weird, interesting things a podcast with

2483
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:57,039
Samoa Joe or oh my god, I'm in Germany and

2484
01:44:57,119 --> 01:45:01,159
now we're all in and just weird, weird, fun stuff.

2485
01:45:01,239 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 2: That's interesting thinking about the stuff before. Yeah, because like

2486
01:45:04,119 --> 01:45:07,560
I guess, I was working for free from oh five

2487
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,880
until Game Informer hired me in O nine and I

2488
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,000
was going to E three but I'd like pay my

2489
01:45:13,079 --> 01:45:14,760
own way out and all that shit, and like I

2490
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,119
wasn't getting paid directly. It was just so I had

2491
01:45:17,159 --> 01:45:20,880
like four years of just no big crazy stuff and

2492
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,720
then Game Informer went crazy.

2493
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,319
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, because like you got yeah, you got a

2494
01:45:24,359 --> 01:45:26,720
gay four roads early. Jeff and I were low key

2495
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,520
at games Beat for a long time there.

2496
01:45:30,159 --> 01:45:33,199
Speaker 2: Grub was like I mean, I knew Grubb's name and

2497
01:45:33,239 --> 01:45:36,359
everything for so many years before, like we've talked about forwards,

2498
01:45:36,359 --> 01:45:37,800
Like the first time I ever saw you in person

2499
01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:40,399
was your on stage at that Greg Miller competition thing

2500
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:44,960
and me Mike and Mary, yeah, before fire Escape existed, Me,

2501
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,880
Mike and Mary were brutally hungover.

2502
01:45:47,199 --> 01:45:50,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we came up and we sunglasses on and

2503
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:54,640
I'm like olasses because we were fucking unbelievably fucked up.

2504
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,079
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I remember seeing you there.

2505
01:45:57,079 --> 01:45:58,239
Speaker 2: I remember just giving me a pat on the back

2506
01:45:58,239 --> 01:45:59,439
because I was the first time I'd ever seen you

2507
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,439
in person. I had hair at the time, I remember,

2508
01:46:02,359 --> 01:46:04,840
And we didn't. I don't think I saw you afterwards

2509
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,119
or whatever, because I think we got knocked out. Then

2510
01:46:06,159 --> 01:46:07,680
we just went passed out of the hotel or something,

2511
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,800
and then it was years after that that we started

2512
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,000
working together. But like, yeah, I feel like we were

2513
01:46:13,039 --> 01:46:15,279
following each other back in the probably like early twenty

2514
01:46:15,359 --> 01:46:18,079
tens or something. You were tea Chicken dinners.

2515
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:20,399
Speaker 4: And exactly just kind of talking on on Twitter and

2516
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:20,880
stuff like that.

2517
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,239
Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah. But the weird thing with me was

2518
01:46:23,279 --> 01:46:26,439
that I never used to watch Giant Bomb. Actually Jeff

2519
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,520
was the one who liked it. It was Jeff was

2520
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,359
the one who was following it up and was excited.

2521
01:46:32,039 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 4: To then Yeah, I needed it was like one up

2522
01:46:34,039 --> 01:46:35,920
yours and then I needed something after one Up went away.

2523
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,159
So my Giant Bomb's pretty good. I'll go for that now.

2524
01:46:38,279 --> 01:46:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of how it went.

2525
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 4: I'm so glad.

2526
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,039
Speaker 3: The first time I met Dan in person was in Disneyland.

2527
01:46:43,319 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 2: I was telling them, that's right about the first time.

2528
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,640
Not only was it a Disneyland, but our first in

2529
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,159
person interaction was you giving me a stone cold stunner

2530
01:46:50,199 --> 01:46:55,039
at Disney Yeah. Of course it's on video too. It was.

2531
01:46:57,039 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: Right, There was no there.

2532
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:01,640
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever immediately hit it off in

2533
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,920
terms of just joking around and like on and off content,

2534
01:47:05,159 --> 01:47:08,600
Like it's like YouTube and like Tim Turry, yeah, Mike

2535
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:12,199
and Marry and like just rush more people that I'm like, Okay,

2536
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:13,760
I just want to make videos of these people forever.

2537
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:16,520
Speaker 3: This is the first thing we ever did was the

2538
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,399
you did that video game Jeopardy thing over on our

2539
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,920
our Patriot, right Jeff and ized and yeah, that you

2540
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,000
were on there, and it was the first time. That

2541
01:47:24,079 --> 01:47:25,960
was when you The gimmick was you kept calling me

2542
01:47:26,039 --> 01:47:28,640
every name but Mike. You pretended you were hot shotting me,

2543
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:29,560
and Mitch was.

2544
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,119
Speaker 4: The one you really liked for some reason, and everyone

2545
01:47:32,199 --> 01:47:34,800
calls me Mitch, and I love it, and I've always

2546
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:35,199
loved it.

2547
01:47:37,039 --> 01:47:38,199
Speaker 1: People finally stopped like that.

2548
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 3: I want to be like, do you guys understand, Like

2549
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,359
the literal dollars he has put in my pocket because

2550
01:47:45,399 --> 01:47:49,840
of this? Do you understand for me?

2551
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: The crow hey brother got an idea.

2552
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 3: Exactly like that? Got so over. That was such a

2553
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:03,800
what a gift you calling me Mitch? My god?

2554
01:48:04,079 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: It was okay.

2555
01:48:05,079 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 3: Plus, it's just more things that I could potentially rhyme.

2556
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,880
It's the stupid puns now, because Mic doesn't work, If

2557
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:12,840
Tocado doesn't work, I have Mitch.

2558
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 1: Now. Have you got content ideas based around the Mitch name?

2559
01:48:17,359 --> 01:48:18,359
Oh it's so good.

2560
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:21,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the things, surprisingly large amount of things rhyme

2561
01:48:21,119 --> 01:48:22,479
with Mitch, not just bitch.

2562
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,319
Speaker 4: Wow, you aren't something new every day?

2563
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:26,560
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.

2564
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:27,560
Speaker 3: All right?

2565
01:48:28,159 --> 01:48:31,359
Speaker 2: Well, uh, I guess uh that's it for the games

2566
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:35,039
this week? Should we Should we answer some emails?

2567
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:39,039
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, they're mostly drests the Mary and Mike.

2568
01:48:39,279 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, several of them are.

2569
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,119
Speaker 3: Oh I'm a Mic. I can answer those. I trik

2570
01:48:44,199 --> 01:48:44,680
wine once.

2571
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: All right, got a handful of emails here. Uh.

2572
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,520
Speaker 2: Some of these might have had Mike or Mary in mind,

2573
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,560
but you know, I got two fellows here that can

2574
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,399
play the roles if needed. So who wants to call

2575
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:02,319
DIBs on? I guess Mike Mike, and I'm Mary, okay,

2576
01:49:02,359 --> 01:49:04,159
and we got married there? Okay, great, all right? They

2577
01:49:04,199 --> 01:49:07,960
call it grubbing it all right, Here we go. First

2578
01:49:08,039 --> 01:49:12,479
one from Phil in Finland. Howdy partners. Since getting access

2579
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,840
to the deadlocks ki Wo early development build, I put

2580
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,239
in almost five hundred hours in a game that's not

2581
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:20,800
officially announced yet, and if I didn't have a dog

2582
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,279
and a girlfriend, that amount would probably be triple. This

2583
01:49:23,359 --> 01:49:25,239
will most likely be the game I spend the next

2584
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,800
ten years with. Before Deadlock, I probably had thousands of

2585
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:30,920
hours in Overwatch, and during my last few years of

2586
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:32,680
that game, I could feel it draining the life out

2587
01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,760
of me, but didn't stop playing it. Since these days,

2588
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,079
most Triple A games do nothing for me, and maybe

2589
01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:39,479
one or two indies catch my attention every year. I

2590
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,640
love the depth, complexity, and sense of improvement and competitive games.

2591
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,079
And while I haven't neglected my non existent kids because

2592
01:49:45,079 --> 01:49:47,439
of a Wow raid or put my mortgage into loot boxes,

2593
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:50,239
I've definitely turned down personal growth in other areas.

2594
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm four games. I'm mediocre at I know Mike that

2595
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:54,520
to you.

2596
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 2: Mike has put an embarrassing amount into Warframe, But do

2597
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,159
any of you have first hand experience, or people in

2598
01:50:01,239 --> 01:50:03,399
your life that have been way too into a game

2599
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,159
that it became a problem take care of.

2600
01:50:05,199 --> 01:50:06,079
Speaker 1: It's still from Finland.

2601
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 3: It's I was actually just thinking about this because I

2602
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,479
a size from Warframe used to play a lot of

2603
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,840
kind of these forever live service games. I played a

2604
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,880
ton of World of Workout in my life. It's it's

2605
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,159
not something that's come up a ton recently. I was

2606
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,079
until pretty recently, I was doing a ton of Final

2607
01:50:23,159 --> 01:50:25,960
Fantasy fourteen. I did play a lot of Overwatch too

2608
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,279
when I was younger, tons of Team Fortress Classic and

2609
01:50:29,399 --> 01:50:33,000
early Counterstrike, lots of Heartstone, and that was the thing.

2610
01:50:33,199 --> 01:50:35,359
So I used to do these a lot. It's only

2611
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,479
pretty recently that I've actually kind of backed off.

2612
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: That a little bit.

2613
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:41,279
Speaker 3: I think part is because I'm doing so much more

2614
01:50:41,359 --> 01:50:45,039
retro gaming now too. I'm streaming exactly and a lot

2615
01:50:45,039 --> 01:50:47,840
of those games. If you're like not a specialist in

2616
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,560
those kind of games, oh nobody wants to watch you

2617
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:53,520
stream an MMO actually, and I kind of get it.

2618
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,319
I kind of get it. So yeah, I'm not doing

2619
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:58,319
as much of those, but I don't know. In our

2620
01:50:58,359 --> 01:51:01,279
folly problem, I did have a friend who was really

2621
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:04,600
deep into world of warcraft, but he like he played

2622
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,680
up so much about that it was a problem. But

2623
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:10,000
he also found ways to kind of make it interesting.

2624
01:51:10,119 --> 01:51:12,439
Like he made friends there that are still his friends.

2625
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,359
There are people that I know of pretty well now

2626
01:51:15,399 --> 01:51:17,359
and like stall at his wedding, and these are people

2627
01:51:17,399 --> 01:51:19,399
he played with in Vanilla Days and he got married

2628
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,880
a few years ago, right, and he would make like

2629
01:51:23,079 --> 01:51:25,319
videos in there and whatnot. So I don't know, like

2630
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:29,239
when is it a problem. Right, It's not just the

2631
01:51:29,319 --> 01:51:31,520
amount of hours that makes it a problem. It's how

2632
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,359
you sort of interact with the world around you. It's

2633
01:51:33,359 --> 01:51:36,079
about if you're shutting other people off, if you're a

2634
01:51:36,119 --> 01:51:37,960
probably I'll tell you if you're like doing like some

2635
01:51:38,079 --> 01:51:40,800
of these hardcore things in these games like rating, and

2636
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,319
it's like, well, that is my obligation for the week,

2637
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:46,359
not seeing friends or things like that. That's when it

2638
01:51:46,399 --> 01:51:48,960
became a little refer me was the idea that even

2639
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:53,279
casual rating is two nights a week, nights a week.

2640
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,520
That's not that I was like, that's time I could

2641
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,840
maybe go out and see people or even stream and

2642
01:52:00,079 --> 01:52:02,399
like try to like make money off of that or

2643
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:06,600
just do anything else maybe, but generally I think you're

2644
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:07,319
probably fine.

2645
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 2: It's interesting because like when I first was hearing that you,

2646
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,119
you know, you would bring up Final Fantasy fourteen and

2647
01:52:12,239 --> 01:52:14,520
wow and stuff like that. And I feel like most

2648
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:18,039
of the time when I know friends that well, I've said,

2649
01:52:18,039 --> 01:52:20,159
I don't know anyone that plays Final Fantasy fourteen, but

2650
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:23,439
you know, like they don't do anything but that they

2651
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,960
don't play other games, they don't right social things or whatever.

2652
01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:29,199
And like you did always strike me as someone that like, oh,

2653
01:52:29,239 --> 01:52:30,720
you play these games, and do you play enough of

2654
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,920
them to like, you know, you really get a good

2655
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:36,279
time out of it, but you still obviously are you're

2656
01:52:36,279 --> 01:52:38,520
playing other stuff, You're doing things, you go out.

2657
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,720
Speaker 3: You know, it's very important for me to like be

2658
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:44,239
well versed in a lot of games. Like I still

2659
01:52:44,279 --> 01:52:46,600
feel bad sometimes like there's there's kind of a brand

2660
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:48,359
a Triple A game that I'm not playing as much

2661
01:52:48,399 --> 01:52:50,880
of because I really am not as interested I used

2662
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:52,079
to be, and I feel like I kind of to

2663
01:52:52,159 --> 01:52:54,880
force myself, like I didn't touch Assassin's Creed Shadows, and

2664
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:57,560
I'm like, god of my career, I should probably at

2665
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,640
least try Assassin's Creed Shadows Mike, I don't want to,

2666
01:53:01,239 --> 01:53:04,039
but at least like the Blizzard stuff day before I

2667
01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:08,159
met you, that was almost my beat exclusively in some ways.

2668
01:53:08,239 --> 01:53:10,960
I covered a ton of Blizzard, like Jeff knows when

2669
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:12,560
I was working on them. I was going to the blizzcons,

2670
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:14,439
I was going to a lot of the events. I

2671
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,399
was revealing Heartstone cards like that, and it was like

2672
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:19,880
they were so popular at that time, between World of

2673
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,159
Warcraft and Herstone.

2674
01:53:22,079 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 1: And over Watch.

2675
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:26,119
Speaker 3: That like that was my job almost covering Blizzard, and

2676
01:53:26,199 --> 01:53:27,840
I kind of loved it for a bit. But that

2677
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:30,920
was a sort of unique time and place for.

2678
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:33,199
Speaker 1: That sort of thing, like sites dedicated to it.

2679
01:53:33,359 --> 01:53:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right exactly. And the thing is like those sites

2680
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:39,640
were always going to do better anyways, but it made

2681
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,119
some sense for us to do it. But even I

2682
01:53:42,159 --> 01:53:44,800
from facy fourteen, as popular as it is, like, I'm like,

2683
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,680
how much coverage can I really get out of that anymore?

2684
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,119
These days? A bit when an expansion comes out, but

2685
01:53:50,239 --> 01:53:51,239
otherwise not a ton.

2686
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a you know the guys who

2687
01:53:56,279 --> 01:53:58,680
do watch football all day on Sunday and they go

2688
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:00,920
and do it by themselves in their basement like that,

2689
01:54:01,199 --> 01:54:03,159
that seems unhealthy to me. I don't think that's the

2690
01:54:03,199 --> 01:54:04,600
best way to do that, and I think if you're

2691
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:08,359
doing the equivalent for any game, it's probably unhealthy. But

2692
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,239
if you balance it out, you do find time for

2693
01:54:11,359 --> 01:54:14,720
other people, if you are engaged in other hobbies, or

2694
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:17,520
if you make the thing you're doing social and like

2695
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:19,960
include the people who are like your partners in life

2696
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,520
and make it intimate in some ways, then you're good.

2697
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 3: You're you're solid.

2698
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:28,039
Speaker 4: Like I've had the you know, I put a thousand,

2699
01:54:28,119 --> 01:54:30,760
one thousand hours in like every call of duty, like

2700
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,800
from Modern Warfare on for quite some time. The you know,

2701
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,680
Modern Warfare was like I think two or two and

2702
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,520
a half thousand hours, something like that, Titan Fall, a

2703
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,640
thousand hours, all these games where it's like that's what

2704
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:44,199
I was playing. I was playing some other stuff, but

2705
01:54:44,199 --> 01:54:45,600
I was just every night was playing that with my

2706
01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:50,239
brothers or whatever. And Modern Warfare there was definitely like, oh,

2707
01:54:50,399 --> 01:54:52,600
this feels like a little bit of a crisis situation

2708
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:55,560
I'm in now. I got to like pull myself, you know,

2709
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:56,840
I'm in a little bit of a nose. I've just

2710
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:58,479
got to pull myself up a little bit, look around,

2711
01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,359
figure out what I'm doing, and that's what I'm well,

2712
01:55:00,439 --> 01:55:02,399
I am enjoying this. I'll look around kind figure out

2713
01:55:02,399 --> 01:55:05,079
if I can make this games thing work and kind

2714
01:55:05,119 --> 01:55:07,760
of made it into something productive. You got to have

2715
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:11,520
some recognition about making sure you're not diving down into

2716
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:12,800
and becoming anti social.

2717
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:15,159
Speaker 3: I almost find it more satisfying to be like, Okay,

2718
01:55:15,159 --> 01:55:17,840
instead of just playing this one kind of life service

2719
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,000
game for one hundred hours, let's do a series playthrough

2720
01:55:21,079 --> 01:55:24,199
of some random franchise, right like back in when I

2721
01:55:24,279 --> 01:55:26,119
was in college, that's really when I fell in love

2722
01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:28,159
with Found Fantasy. I was like, I'm going to play

2723
01:55:28,159 --> 01:55:30,319
through foun Fantasy one through ten. Let's just do that,

2724
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,920
And I was absolutely love that. I think you see

2725
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:34,680
more people doing things like that, like I'm going to

2726
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,279
play through all the Resident Evils and I'm going to

2727
01:55:36,319 --> 01:55:38,840
play through all the Legend of Zelda's. You know, there's

2728
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,720
so many franchises like that stuff Like I still want

2729
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:43,359
to do yah because I never really played those games.

2730
01:55:43,359 --> 01:55:44,640
So at some point I'm just going to play through

2731
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,640
that series, and in some way that seems more enriching

2732
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,000
to me. I'm going to gain all this experience and

2733
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:54,159
knowledge about this. Really unique and clever series. I think

2734
01:55:54,199 --> 01:55:54,680
that's better.

2735
01:55:55,279 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because yeah, I always pride myself on

2736
01:55:58,039 --> 01:56:00,399
kind of playing everything, and I usually say, like everything

2737
01:56:00,399 --> 01:56:02,359
except for like not a big RPG or sports game guy.

2738
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,000
But then like if you're meeting someone who's maybe from

2739
01:56:05,039 --> 01:56:07,560
outside games, yeah, what kind of games you play?

2740
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,239
Speaker 1: And I usually yeah, I play pretty much everything.

2741
01:56:09,279 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I'm obsessed with you must play you

2742
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:15,359
must know everything about Escape from Tarkov and like, uh,

2743
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,960
it's like like they'll name like Valorant or Escape from

2744
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:23,279
TARKOVS or like a Hunt Showdown, these games that are

2745
01:56:23,319 --> 01:56:24,680
like objectively huge.

2746
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,479
Speaker 1: But it's so weird that like not as much in like.

2747
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:31,199
Speaker 3: Our circles, right well, it's it is really weird like

2748
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,479
where we exist where like you know, granted Auto six

2749
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:37,039
is gonna happen LA this year and we're going to

2750
01:56:37,119 --> 01:56:39,920
talk about it and whatnot, but the proportion that we

2751
01:56:40,079 --> 01:56:42,920
talk about it isn't going to equal the proportion of

2752
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:47,520
how much it sells and how much. Like it was

2753
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,880
a democracy, and it's just like people voted for a

2754
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:53,159
game they're playing right now, right be boring if we

2755
01:56:53,199 --> 01:56:55,560
did nothing but talk about that forever like we talked

2756
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:58,359
about blue Prints for two weeks and felt bad talking

2757
01:56:58,399 --> 01:56:59,600
about it anymore today.

2758
01:57:00,359 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 2: It's funny when I was back saying dynamite for the

2759
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,439
Smoe Joe thing. Oh, we went to the bar afterwards,

2760
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:06,800
and like, you know, I'm meeting a bunch of these

2761
01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:08,439
guys for the first time, and like you know, like

2762
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,319
h no knows me and EXCaliber and stuff, but like

2763
01:57:10,439 --> 01:57:12,079
you know, like Trent Burretta and stuff, and it's like

2764
01:57:12,079 --> 01:57:13,600
I didn't know he was a big gamer, and so

2765
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:15,239
like all these guys are asking what are you playing

2766
01:57:15,319 --> 01:57:15,479
right now?

2767
01:57:15,479 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 3: What are you playing?

2768
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:21,199
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, you're heard of blue Prince who

2769
01:57:21,279 --> 01:57:23,319
loves blue Prints now, like nobody had heard of it.

2770
01:57:23,359 --> 01:57:25,359
And I'm like I act like this big gamer. And

2771
01:57:25,399 --> 01:57:27,279
then like I mentioned this thing, is like what the

2772
01:57:27,319 --> 01:57:27,720
fuck is that?

2773
01:57:28,319 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 3: My one friend teases me still because somebody we were

2774
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,119
out somewhere and he told somebody what I did, and

2775
01:57:34,239 --> 01:57:36,079
it's like, oh, well, you're playing right now, and I'm like,

2776
01:57:36,359 --> 01:57:39,000
I'm playing Shima got me ten Side Person of five.

2777
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:43,359
This guy just looked at me like I play Candy Crush.

2778
01:57:45,399 --> 01:57:47,960
Speaker 1: I'll never forget get into that physical therapist and uh

2779
01:57:48,039 --> 01:57:48,600
in New York.

2780
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 2: That was like bending my leg up and like trying

2781
01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,880
to make small talk and ask him what I do

2782
01:57:53,079 --> 01:57:54,399
and he's like it's a real talk.

2783
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,039
Speaker 1: What's what's better Halo or Mario.

2784
01:57:58,840 --> 01:57:59,039
Speaker 3: Man?

2785
01:58:00,279 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like we are so many degrees removed from that,

2786
01:58:05,039 --> 01:58:08,000
but it does feel like does he have the earpieces?

2787
01:58:08,079 --> 01:58:10,239
He being fed by chat GPT, Like what is a

2788
01:58:10,319 --> 01:58:11,239
practical jokers?

2789
01:58:11,279 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 1: What is this?

2790
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah to the guy's question that he was asking about,

2791
01:58:16,039 --> 01:58:17,399
like you know, getting way too into stuff. I do

2792
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,840
remember and like I don't. Maybe this was part of

2793
01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:22,239
why I never wanted to get into MMOs or anything.

2794
01:58:22,479 --> 01:58:24,399
But I had one of my best friends through junior

2795
01:58:24,479 --> 01:58:26,560
high and high school. We were in all these classes together,

2796
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,840
talked about video games all the time. He was he

2797
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:30,640
was awesome. So like we're in the gifted program together.

2798
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,000
He's like super smart guy. He was in med school

2799
01:58:33,359 --> 01:58:36,560
in college. Yeah, this awesome girlfriend. He was on the

2800
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:38,800
football team. He was just like in it seems like

2801
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:40,239
he's the guy you look at. It's like this guy

2802
01:58:40,359 --> 01:58:42,119
just has all of his shit together, super smart, He's

2803
01:58:42,119 --> 01:58:42,760
going to be a doctor.

2804
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 1: Everything's fucking out. Like love this guy. Uh, And then

2805
01:58:46,319 --> 01:58:47,159
like he got into Wow.

2806
01:58:47,279 --> 01:58:50,279
Speaker 2: Because remember I went to college in two so you know,

2807
01:58:50,319 --> 01:58:52,680
you can image a couple of years into college, Wow

2808
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:56,079
blows up and he went from playing everything. We played

2809
01:58:56,159 --> 01:58:57,960
everything that came out together. He was a big and

2810
01:58:58,039 --> 01:59:00,560
sixty four guy coming up and then and all he

2811
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,000
played like we used to go out and stuff all

2812
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,039
the time. And all of a sudden, no, we're not

2813
01:59:04,119 --> 01:59:06,199
going out anymore. Oh we're not oh new games, the

2814
01:59:06,279 --> 01:59:08,079
multiplayer games coming out, We're not meeting up to play

2815
01:59:08,119 --> 01:59:10,000
Lego Star Wars together anymore. Oh, we're not doing this

2816
01:59:10,039 --> 01:59:13,439
stuff together. And his girlfriend dumped him. He like, I

2817
01:59:13,479 --> 01:59:15,000
don't know if he flunked out of school or quit

2818
01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:17,000
or what the deal was, but he just like withdrew

2819
01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:20,560
and withdrew and Withdrew and like he had everything in

2820
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:23,039
his corner. And I'm sure it can't just be like

2821
01:59:23,079 --> 01:59:24,760
Wow came along, And I'm sure there had to be

2822
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:27,039
other factors maybe people weren't aware of, but like, to me,

2823
01:59:27,159 --> 01:59:29,439
it's like that was the dividing line. Was he got

2824
01:59:29,479 --> 01:59:31,359
really into Wow, and then it's like, oh, kind of

2825
01:59:31,439 --> 01:59:33,720
just like all of us, all of his friends were

2826
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:35,439
just like, man, yeah, he used to come out and

2827
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,800
then Wow, happened, you know, so like there was the

2828
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:39,560
cheap factor, like I don't want to pay every month.

2829
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:41,159
There is the fact that like I don't want to

2830
01:59:41,199 --> 01:59:42,760
go all in on just one game. I want to

2831
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:43,640
play everything, you know.

2832
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:46,359
Speaker 3: No, I mean I had another friend at that time.

2833
01:59:46,439 --> 01:59:50,159
It was kind of a similar thing where he was

2834
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,800
he was playing so much Wow and keeping really weird hours,

2835
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:55,760
Like you'd go over there at like three pm and

2836
01:59:55,800 --> 02:00:00,319
he'd be sleeping and stuff like that. No, I talk

2837
02:00:00,359 --> 02:00:02,079
about like a body like an audio. At what point

2838
02:00:02,119 --> 02:00:04,840
his parents took away the mouse to try to keep

2839
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:06,319
him for playing, so he learned how to play World

2840
02:00:06,319 --> 02:00:11,479
Wars with just the keyboard. It was getting real weird.

2841
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,079
It's becoming it was.

2842
02:00:14,119 --> 02:00:15,439
Speaker 1: Like haha, good luck, sucker.

2843
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 3: At what point, like like what for it was over

2844
02:00:19,079 --> 02:00:22,960
there because like the college Invester started and like this

2845
02:00:23,079 --> 02:00:25,319
kid's bomb was like, oh are you ready for for

2846
02:00:25,479 --> 02:00:27,359
college to start next week? And he's like, what are

2847
02:00:27,399 --> 02:00:30,239
you talking about? I've been going to classes. Because he

2848
02:00:30,439 --> 02:00:32,640
just lied to her. It's like like, oh, yeah, I'm

2849
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,760
going to college whatever. He's just playing World of Wark. Uh.

2850
02:00:37,199 --> 02:00:39,640
He ended up, he turned out, Okay, he's fine out,

2851
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,399
he got married, he just had a kid a little

2852
02:00:41,439 --> 02:00:42,920
bit ago. He recovered.

2853
02:00:43,159 --> 02:00:45,239
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of people who had a

2854
02:00:45,359 --> 02:00:49,079
really rough like two thousand and five more.

2855
02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,880
Speaker 2: Recently, Like I mean, that is why I'm terribly wary

2856
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,640
of stuff like mobia stuff or like E sports type stuff,

2857
02:00:54,680 --> 02:00:57,840
or I'll never shi Brad Shoemaker tell me Doda, like, oh,

2858
02:00:58,119 --> 02:00:59,720
the first you know thousand hours, you're not gonna have

2859
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:00,520
any other what you're doing.

2860
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 1: It's like, what the fuck are you men talking about?

2861
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:04,760
Like that's insane.

2862
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:08,680
Speaker 3: I consider myself like somewhere down like I play a

2863
02:01:08,760 --> 02:01:10,119
lot of video games, and I played a lot of

2864
02:01:10,119 --> 02:01:13,600
this live service stuff. I played some pretty hardcore things.

2865
02:01:14,159 --> 02:01:17,960
I played Dota two for a couple of matches, and

2866
02:01:18,079 --> 02:01:23,520
I was like, fuck this, Like it's like immediately like

2867
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:27,560
the toxicity and like the fifteen subsystems you had to

2868
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:30,800
try to learn, and it was like forty five minute

2869
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:33,439
long matches where after two minutes you know you're gonna lose,

2870
02:01:33,479 --> 02:01:37,119
but you can't leave. It's it's that is one of

2871
02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:39,319
the things, like, Okay, I get that there's an audience

2872
02:01:39,359 --> 02:01:42,399
for this. I can't believe it's that big an audience

2873
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:43,439
for this thing.

2874
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 4: Oh jeez, it's a lot.

2875
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,279
Speaker 2: The game I probably played the most is Soul Calverer

2876
02:01:48,319 --> 02:01:50,359
one on Dreamcast, and that was like five hundred hours.

2877
02:01:50,439 --> 02:01:53,880
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, oh pro Fanacy fourteen its it's either

2878
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,239
a while or Final Fantasy fourteen, because it is, it

2879
02:01:56,439 --> 02:01:58,039
is a lot. But again, like my friend like the

2880
02:01:58,079 --> 02:02:01,920
wanted maybe a problem like pre early on really five,

2881
02:02:02,079 --> 02:02:04,319
like not too long after that game came out, it

2882
02:02:04,439 --> 02:02:06,439
was like, yeah, I have a year of gameplay time

2883
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:08,800
in that game. A year a year.

2884
02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:11,119
Speaker 2: I It's weird though, because like I think, there is

2885
02:02:11,159 --> 02:02:13,520
a part where that can seem like depressing, where it's like, oh,

2886
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,279
that much gameplay time, But then there's also like I

2887
02:02:16,439 --> 02:02:18,560
also see it as a measurement of how much I

2888
02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:20,960
like a game. And I remember like Black Ops six,

2889
02:02:21,159 --> 02:02:22,600
you know, it was the one where it's like, you know,

2890
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:24,840
because I not as much as like Grubb was just describing,

2891
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:27,079
but like those early modern warfares and stuff, I was

2892
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:29,560
definitely putting hundreds of hours and prestiging several times and

2893
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:32,159
stuff like that, and like a Black Op six really

2894
02:02:32,199 --> 02:02:33,760
blew me away by how much I got into it,

2895
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:35,359
and I would look like, wow, I got two days

2896
02:02:35,359 --> 02:02:36,840
of in game time I got the other day, you know,

2897
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:38,760
two and a half. I prestiged twice, like shit, I

2898
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:40,760
have done this since two thousand and eight or whatever,

2899
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:43,760
and I kind of see that as like, sweet, all right, wow,

2900
02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:45,800
it really got me this time. I do feel like

2901
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,000
if we'd gotten to like, oh, I have months or

2902
02:02:48,039 --> 02:02:50,640
a year of in game time, I think I would

2903
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:53,239
not look at that and be like, oh sweet, you know, yeah, I'm.

2904
02:02:53,119 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 3: Kind of glad I gone on that train so early.

2905
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:56,199
I think one of the reasons I didn't play a

2906
02:02:56,319 --> 02:02:57,960
ton of those Call of Duties I played a bit

2907
02:02:58,359 --> 02:03:00,520
was because I did play a ton of Tea Fortress

2908
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:04,199
Classic in like nineteen ninety nine, right, like real early.

2909
02:03:04,279 --> 02:03:09,239
Speaker 2: Shit, all right, next one is coming in from Tom

2910
02:03:09,479 --> 02:03:12,760
from London. I fire skip Crew. I was listening to

2911
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,720
the conversation with Mary, Drew and Mike about flying and

2912
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:18,880
had a question. The older I get, the worst flying becomes.

2913
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:21,039
It wasn't so bad until a few years back. On

2914
02:03:21,119 --> 02:03:24,960
an internal flight in Thailand, I experienced one of those

2915
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:29,119
emergency flyaways where pilots readjust their landing line. For example,

2916
02:03:29,199 --> 02:03:31,199
you're coming down from thirty thousand feet we got to

2917
02:03:31,239 --> 02:03:34,119
about ten thousand and the pilot flew up, up and away.

2918
02:03:34,279 --> 02:03:37,079
Do not recommend these days. The worst part for me

2919
02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:39,319
is the takeoff. I started timing it from the start

2920
02:03:39,399 --> 02:03:41,560
of takeoff to when I feel relaxed, and it's about

2921
02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:45,039
three minutes. One thing I helped finds is find helps

2922
02:03:45,079 --> 02:03:47,119
his distraction. I look at the lights on the ceiling

2923
02:03:47,159 --> 02:03:49,199
and count them going up and down above the passengers.

2924
02:03:49,199 --> 02:03:51,920
I've tried playing my steam Deck or Switch Vampire Survivors,

2925
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:53,560
but it's hard to concentrate on the game. Do you

2926
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:56,119
have any tips for getting through takeoff, turbulence and landing.

2927
02:03:56,239 --> 02:03:57,720
Keep up the great work, Tom in London.

2928
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:00,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because none of those three people or

2929
02:04:00,279 --> 02:04:03,359
on this episode, but uh still, I know you're talking about.

2930
02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:08,119
In fact, my last flight to Orlando just about a

2931
02:04:08,199 --> 02:04:11,319
month ago, we were like landing, we were like it

2932
02:04:11,399 --> 02:04:13,640
felt like five feet off the ground. We just started

2933
02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:16,640
going back up right and and every it was like

2934
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:19,920
everyone's looking at each other like what's this about. And

2935
02:04:20,039 --> 02:04:22,439
it takes them a while for the pilots that tell

2936
02:04:22,479 --> 02:04:24,199
us that hey, there's just an up draft, we need

2937
02:04:24,279 --> 02:04:27,319
to try it again. But you know, like they're busy.

2938
02:04:27,439 --> 02:04:28,720
I get it, they're flying the plane, but for a

2939
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,880
while they're like, what's going on. Yeah, here's my recommendation,

2940
02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:36,760
xanax pills. If you want some over the counter stuff.

2941
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,880
Just gets some dramamine. It makes you sleepy, like, don't

2942
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:42,399
feel bad about that. That's what that stuff is is

2943
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:44,600
there for. I think if you go see a doctor

2944
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:47,399
and just say you get really anxious about airplanes, you

2945
02:04:47,439 --> 02:04:51,119
could probably get a prescription, like just just get just

2946
02:04:51,199 --> 02:04:53,880
get some pills. It's they're fine, you're you know, don't

2947
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:56,319
abuse them, just take them for flying. You got it.

2948
02:04:56,439 --> 02:04:59,039
Speaker 4: Like, you know, this doesn't work for everybody, but you know,

2949
02:04:59,199 --> 02:05:01,319
you're what you your body's telling you stuff. That's what

2950
02:05:01,399 --> 02:05:04,600
anxiety is, uh, And there's ways like you can improve

2951
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:06,600
that by having a healthier diet and stuff like that

2952
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:08,800
and makeing sure your gut biomes in place because a

2953
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:10,520
lot of anxiety comes from there. But whatever, you can't

2954
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:14,159
control that entirely, especially based on the American diets. But

2955
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:17,079
you know your body's talking to you. You can talk

2956
02:05:17,159 --> 02:05:20,000
back to your body, like verbalize it. You can tell

2957
02:05:20,039 --> 02:05:23,439
yourself I'm safe and your body might believe you. It

2958
02:05:23,520 --> 02:05:25,760
won't always, but it might, and that can help a

2959
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,319
little bit. So like, just recognize you that you're in

2960
02:05:28,399 --> 02:05:30,399
a conversation with your body, your mind, and you're in

2961
02:05:30,479 --> 02:05:32,359
you're in the rest of your body. Those are all

2962
02:05:32,399 --> 02:05:34,760
just senses informing your mind to what's going on. You

2963
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:37,119
can take control your mind and say, all right, senses,

2964
02:05:37,199 --> 02:05:39,840
I recognize that. Thank you for telling me that you're afraid.

2965
02:05:40,279 --> 02:05:42,039
But I'm going to tell you now I think we're safe.

2966
02:05:42,319 --> 02:05:44,079
Let's just kind of feel better about this and it

2967
02:05:44,479 --> 02:05:46,520
it becomes a feedback loop and it can and can

2968
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:48,279
help you know, if you want to, like a little

2969
02:05:48,359 --> 02:05:50,960
another trick, there's like a five four three two one

2970
02:05:51,039 --> 02:05:53,680
thing where it's like name five things you see, Name

2971
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:55,960
four things you can touch, Name three things.

2972
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,199
Speaker 1: You can as you're hearing, and then yes four than

2973
02:05:58,279 --> 02:05:58,920
yeah that does.

2974
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 4: That's gonna take you through it. That take you three minutes,

2975
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:01,039
for sure.

2976
02:06:01,079 --> 02:06:02,159
Speaker 1: That's a good plane one for sure.

2977
02:06:02,199 --> 02:06:02,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2978
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:05,079
Speaker 2: I you know, I've had anxiety. I've talked about a

2979
02:06:05,079 --> 02:06:08,239
plenty for many, many years, and I'm still working on it.

2980
02:06:08,319 --> 02:06:10,000
And like lately, you know, I've alluded to all this

2981
02:06:10,079 --> 02:06:12,640
flying stuff and like I'm not suddenly magically cured. That's

2982
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:15,760
not how anxiety works. But like last year I had

2983
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:20,039
a huge run of travel that I was fucking terrified of.

2984
02:06:20,119 --> 02:06:22,039
I remember I found out I was going to Games Calm,

2985
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,640
and I just remember, for like two months leading up

2986
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:26,159
to it, it's all I could think about. I couldn't

2987
02:06:26,159 --> 02:06:28,239
sleep at night because I was worried about these international flights.

2988
02:06:28,359 --> 02:06:30,479
Remember Bank and I went to go see Twisters and

2989
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:32,600
we were like going to talk about it afterwards, and

2990
02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:34,880
I told her, like, honestly, I don't think I took

2991
02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:37,159
in any of that movie because I was just thinking

2992
02:06:37,199 --> 02:06:39,520
about that flight to Germany and worrying about like freaking

2993
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:41,479
out and stuff like that. So it's so much time

2994
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:43,039
in therapy, so much time trying to figure it out.

2995
02:06:43,039 --> 02:06:44,800
And I used to like do like I would just

2996
02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:46,159
get tanked. I would just like show up at the

2997
02:06:46,159 --> 02:06:49,600
airport bar lounge like three hours early, drink a shit

2998
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:51,600
ton and stuff. Drink on the plane. I used to,

2999
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:53,239
you know, bring little lairplaye bottles on there with me.

3000
02:06:53,319 --> 02:06:56,279
I was, you know, that was I would feel like shit,

3001
02:06:56,359 --> 02:06:58,399
the New Land where you're going, and it's like, oh great,

3002
02:06:58,439 --> 02:07:00,840
now I have a giant hangover in anxiety thing for

3003
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:02,680
the next day and a half. I knew I couldn't

3004
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:04,760
do that. Talk to the doctors about that. They gave

3005
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:07,880
me xanax. Like Mike mentioned, it does work. It absolutely

3006
02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:09,680
does work. I've always been worried about it because you know,

3007
02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:12,159
it can be highly addictive and stuff like that. So

3008
02:07:12,319 --> 02:07:15,920
like when I went to Tokyo last time, I took

3009
02:07:16,239 --> 02:07:19,000
a point five milligram Xanax on the way out there,

3010
02:07:19,079 --> 02:07:20,880
and it's like a fourteen hour flight and you know,

3011
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:22,760
kind of wear us off after like four to six hours.

3012
02:07:23,039 --> 02:07:24,720
And remember for four to six hours, it's kind of

3013
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:27,000
like I'm doing okay here, okay, And I didn't want

3014
02:07:27,039 --> 02:07:28,399
to drink cause I'd just taken a x aana ax,

3015
02:07:28,439 --> 02:07:29,960
and I was like, I could probably just ride this out.

3016
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:32,359
And I wrote it out and I landed and it

3017
02:07:32,399 --> 02:07:34,079
felt great about it. And then on the way back,

3018
02:07:34,119 --> 02:07:36,600
I remember getting to the airport and being like, well,

3019
02:07:36,720 --> 02:07:38,199
I should I'm boarding in a half hour. I should

3020
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:40,399
take the xanax. And I was like, well, you knowest

3021
02:07:40,439 --> 02:07:42,399
it was kind of fine coming out here, and I

3022
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:45,920
remember coming back stone cold, sober the whole time. And

3023
02:07:46,159 --> 02:07:47,840
now it's like now I'm about to do all these

3024
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:50,119
international flights, and like I'd get a little bit nervous

3025
02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:53,520
but I think by it's the uh, it's the cognitive

3026
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:55,399
behavioral thing where it's like, you know, just by doing it,

3027
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:59,800
it kind of opens up exposure therapy. Yeah, yeah, exposure therapies. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

3028
02:08:00,119 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 3: I had the same thing. I mean I used to

3029
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,479
take xanax and then eventually, like gosh, at first I

3030
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:07,479
was taking like xan x and dramamine to get through

3031
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,760
the fight. Then it's like, well, maybe I don't need

3032
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,399
to dream xanax, nmark and just do the drama mean,

3033
02:08:12,479 --> 02:08:14,880
and like, now if I have to go on it cold,

3034
02:08:15,159 --> 02:08:16,640
I can't. I like to take the dramming just because

3035
02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:19,159
it makes me sleepy more than anything. Right, So it's

3036
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:21,119
like because I'm bored on the plane and I don't,

3037
02:08:21,199 --> 02:08:22,199
you know, I'll just sleep.

3038
02:08:22,279 --> 02:08:24,119
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I even if.

3039
02:08:24,039 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 3: You do the xanax, I don't think you're gonna be

3040
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:27,640
using xanax for the rest of your life. It is

3041
02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:30,439
almost like a training wheels thing. Eventually you may not

3042
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:32,720
anymore if you do need this though whatever. That's what

3043
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:34,039
it's there for every flight.

3044
02:08:34,239 --> 02:08:36,880
Speaker 2: Like no one's like, I mean, that's not badly, it's

3045
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:38,600
a problem if like you get home and you're taking

3046
02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:39,800
it when it's just right.

3047
02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: Exactly or whatever.

3048
02:08:41,039 --> 02:08:43,279
Speaker 3: But like yeah, just like you know, that's why you

3049
02:08:43,319 --> 02:08:45,439
have to go through doctors and get prescriptions and things

3050
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:47,800
like that. You know, to be clear, don't go getting

3051
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:49,920
xanax off the black market or whatever.

3052
02:08:50,359 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 2: But if and this applies to planes or anything you

3053
02:08:53,039 --> 02:08:55,199
might be anxious about, and all of my learning about

3054
02:08:55,199 --> 02:08:57,199
anxiety and everything, the thing that works for me most

3055
02:08:57,359 --> 02:08:58,520
now and it's not.

3056
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:00,520
Speaker 1: It's not you know, I need to dannax.

3057
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:01,960
Speaker 2: You don't need now, call, don't need anything for this

3058
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,359
is just when you feel it coming up, when you

3059
02:09:05,479 --> 02:09:07,359
feel the heart and the heart you know your your

3060
02:09:07,439 --> 02:09:10,159
your hands get tangly, your feet get tingly, the breath

3061
02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:14,000
gets rapid, and everything. I for so long tried to

3062
02:09:14,159 --> 02:09:15,680
fight it where it's like, okay, I'm going to do this,

3063
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:18,399
I'm gonna distract myself. I'm going to do this breathing technique.

3064
02:09:18,399 --> 02:09:20,760
I'm going to do this. I've done fucking everything you

3065
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:24,199
can imagine to try to distract myself or stop it.

3066
02:09:25,279 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 1: Don't do that.

3067
02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:30,439
Speaker 2: Just fucking realize that, Like, look, you've probably had anxiety before,

3068
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:33,319
you might have had panic attacks before. You've felt as

3069
02:09:33,399 --> 02:09:35,920
bad as it gets, and you've been fine. And so

3070
02:09:36,359 --> 02:09:37,720
what I do now is if I feel that, and

3071
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:40,039
I still feel that during taxing and take off like

3072
02:09:40,159 --> 02:09:42,880
you described, Tom, and once I start feeling it, I

3073
02:09:43,039 --> 02:09:45,439
don't do anything to try to stop it. I literally

3074
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:47,239
just like sit there and I'll like I'll put my

3075
02:09:47,279 --> 02:09:49,640
steam deck down, I'll put it in the little pocket

3076
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:51,520
and i will just like close my eyes and I'll

3077
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:53,920
be like, all right, I see you. I feel this,

3078
02:09:54,199 --> 02:09:56,720
Like hit me, just give me everything you got here,

3079
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:58,760
Like let's just show me. Just do everything you got

3080
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:00,840
and just get it out of yourself, out of my system.

3081
02:10:01,319 --> 02:10:02,840
And because I know it's not gonna hurt me, and

3082
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:05,680
so you just let it do its thing. Don't try

3083
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:08,119
to fight it, because I think by resisting it, it

3084
02:10:08,279 --> 02:10:09,920
does kind of leave us. Oh no, I'm still feeling this.

3085
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:11,159
Oh no, I'm slow. It's not doing it.

3086
02:10:11,239 --> 02:10:14,239
Speaker 1: Nobody like it's not working. Just let it, let it

3087
02:10:14,359 --> 02:10:15,840
do its thing completely.

3088
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 4: And label it even be like just say that's what's happening.

3089
02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 1: Here's the brand, here's the heart, right, here's that thing.

3090
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, just call it out and like it all

3091
02:10:23,199 --> 02:10:24,880
just puts in like a little bit of compartment for

3092
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,079
you and like, Okay, I see it happening. I can.

3093
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:29,520
I've handled worse what you said there, like, yeah, I've

3094
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:30,079
been through worse.

3095
02:10:30,359 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And like I'm not cured, certainly, I don't

3096
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:35,159
intend on or I don't think I ever will be,

3097
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:38,000
but like, I can do this stuff now and get

3098
02:10:38,039 --> 02:10:39,520
through the discomfort, you know, because.

3099
02:10:39,279 --> 02:10:39,720
Speaker 1: That's all it is.

3100
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:43,239
Speaker 2: It's discomfort and weird thoughts and anxiety isn't reality. You're

3101
02:10:43,279 --> 02:10:46,840
gonna be fine. So yeah, so Tom, good luck with

3102
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:50,199
your future flights. I know how you're feeling, all right.

3103
02:10:50,439 --> 02:10:54,199
Next up, we got Ben from Lexington, Kentucky. Says, Dan,

3104
02:10:54,439 --> 02:10:56,760
can you please explain how you came to love Final

3105
02:10:56,840 --> 02:10:59,600
Fantasy Tactics. It is one of my favorite games of

3106
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:02,800
all time, but notoriously slow to build and very talky

3107
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:04,840
in the beginning, so I'm always surprised to hear you

3108
02:11:04,880 --> 02:11:06,840
say you loved it when it's brought up, since it's

3109
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:09,439
well known you don't like Final Fantasy or other Tactics games.

3110
02:11:09,479 --> 02:11:11,640
When I know, please answer this. It's been boggling my

3111
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:13,279
mind for like the past eight years.

3112
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:16,399
Speaker 3: I'm so glad i'm here. Look, I love this show, Dan,

3113
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:19,960
but I hate it anytime Final Fantasy comes up, I

3114
02:11:20,159 --> 02:11:24,359
swear to God. At one point I concocted this giant plan.

3115
02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:27,239
Next time I'm on and we get to like, what, like, oh,

3116
02:11:27,279 --> 02:11:28,439
what are you playing? I was gonna be like, oh,

3117
02:11:28,479 --> 02:11:30,439
I'm playing this game called Final Fantasy one, and I

3118
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:32,039
was going to talk about that for a while and

3119
02:11:32,039 --> 02:11:33,880
they're like, okay, Mike, what else? So I'm playing Final

3120
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:42,520
Fantasy too. I was gonna basically fill a buster and

3121
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:44,800
I was like, that's probably not great content.

3122
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 4: I would have enjoyed it, just based on how much

3123
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:50,079
you would have been enjoying yourself.

3124
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:53,600
Speaker 2: Probably a world where I go through those because like, look,

3125
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:55,680
I like ten a lot, I like Tactics a lot.

3126
02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:57,960
Speaker 1: I like these games in the past.

3127
02:11:58,399 --> 02:12:01,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting. I mean I believe you that,

3128
02:12:01,159 --> 02:12:02,800
like a lot of way these games aren't your things.

3129
02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:05,800
But you know, I was thinking like sometimes like like oh,

3130
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:07,840
I like, you know, really actiony games, right, but then

3131
02:12:07,880 --> 02:12:11,600
you love something like Blueprints, And you know, I know

3132
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:14,000
that you know that you like a wide variety games.

3133
02:12:14,039 --> 02:12:16,399
I think you like an even wider variety of games

3134
02:12:16,439 --> 02:12:17,239
than you realize.

3135
02:12:17,279 --> 02:12:19,039
Speaker 1: Sometimes that could be true.

3136
02:12:19,199 --> 02:12:21,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, look, I know I don't like

3137
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:24,880
talkie games and tactics can be talkie, but it's also

3138
02:12:25,159 --> 02:12:28,840
deeply like I like thinky and strategic games, and this

3139
02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:30,720
this email says like, oh, I didn't know you liked

3140
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:31,439
other tactics games.

3141
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like XKAM a lot. I love Into the Breach.

3142
02:12:33,640 --> 02:12:36,239
I love like chess. As a kid, I had a

3143
02:12:36,359 --> 02:12:37,439
Kasparov chess.

3144
02:12:37,359 --> 02:12:39,640
Speaker 2: Machine that it was like you'd play against an ai

3145
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:41,439
and it was like, you know, this is the early nineties,

3146
02:12:41,439 --> 02:12:42,920
so it was just like two lights to be like, okay,

3147
02:12:43,000 --> 02:12:45,199
move the night to be four, and like I would

3148
02:12:45,319 --> 02:12:47,199
just play chess against the fucking.

3149
02:12:47,279 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 4: Net, you know, punishment. I'm making Mike play into the

3150
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:50,680
Breach so fucking hard.

3151
02:12:53,359 --> 02:12:55,439
Speaker 3: I played it. Oh you did play it? Okay, I

3152
02:12:55,479 --> 02:12:56,800
played it, and I liked it. I don't know why

3153
02:12:56,840 --> 02:12:59,680
I didn't. I actually I don't know why I found it.

3154
02:13:00,439 --> 02:13:02,359
That's what it was. I don't know why I didn't

3155
02:13:02,359 --> 02:13:03,960
at least specific time.

3156
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:08,600
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, yeah, it's but honestly it's a very

3157
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:11,600
time and place thing because I it was O two

3158
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:15,520
and i'd just gotten the sp and I got a blue.

3159
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:17,439
Speaker 4: We're talking about techics advanced to be clearly right.

3160
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:20,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well but I did I wound up reviewing more

3161
02:13:20,399 --> 02:13:23,399
of the Lions, the remake of the first one. But specifically,

3162
02:13:23,439 --> 02:13:25,720
the reason I found out I loved Advance was because

3163
02:13:26,359 --> 02:13:29,439
I it was my first semester of college, which means

3164
02:13:29,479 --> 02:13:31,319
it was the only semester of college.

3165
02:13:31,039 --> 02:13:33,279
Speaker 1: That I actually tried to go to class because I thought, oh,

3166
02:13:33,359 --> 02:13:34,560
this is important. It's college.

3167
02:13:35,399 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 2: And but all my classes were like these big you know,

3168
02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:40,840
three hundred class auditorium three hundred person class auditoriums for

3169
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:42,640
like film classes and stuff like that. So it was

3170
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:44,640
very easy for me to sit in the back and

3171
02:13:44,880 --> 02:13:47,560
just like, oh, it turns out I like portable gaming.

3172
02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:48,399
Speaker 1: I got an SP.

3173
02:13:49,479 --> 02:13:52,239
Speaker 3: That's right, you're anti portable gaming. It was I did.

3174
02:13:52,399 --> 02:13:55,000
Speaker 2: The SP changed fucking everything for me because the GBA,

3175
02:13:55,399 --> 02:13:57,359
I knew it had good games with the backline situation

3176
02:13:57,520 --> 02:13:57,960
I didn't like.

3177
02:13:58,279 --> 02:13:59,800
Speaker 1: So man, the SP I just gotten that.

3178
02:13:59,880 --> 02:14:02,079
Speaker 2: I got Linked the Past and four Swords on that,

3179
02:14:02,239 --> 02:14:04,880
and then I got like, I got great reviews Final

3180
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:08,039
Fantasy Taxics Advanced. All right, people rave about this game.

3181
02:14:08,079 --> 02:14:09,720
I'll give it a shot. And I would just sit

3182
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:12,560
in the back of class for that entire semester, and

3183
02:14:12,800 --> 02:14:15,039
I don't think I did headphones but I would just

3184
02:14:15,199 --> 02:14:17,199
play it and like, yeah, I got through the talkie beginning.

3185
02:14:17,199 --> 02:14:19,239
Probably didn't love it Everymber, like snowball fight or whatever,

3186
02:14:20,479 --> 02:14:22,760
but that got me through that semester. It's like the

3187
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:26,199
one college class I went to regularly. I got through

3188
02:14:26,600 --> 02:14:29,800
survived because I had Final Fantasy Taxics advance and like,

3189
02:14:30,079 --> 02:14:32,359
you know, one good fight of that game is a

3190
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:33,000
chess match.

3191
02:14:33,039 --> 02:14:35,560
Speaker 1: You know that'll last fifty minutes. You know.

3192
02:14:36,239 --> 02:14:38,520
Speaker 3: I can kind of see the difference between that and

3193
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:43,520
a normal Final Fantasy. There's a lot of inconsequential battles

3194
02:14:43,600 --> 02:14:45,960
in a normal JR like that, right, oh oh, in

3195
02:14:46,039 --> 02:14:48,279
normal Jeopardies, I say, normal Jeopardizes, there's a lot of like,

3196
02:14:48,479 --> 02:14:50,960
all right, you're gonna fight three wolves, and you are

3197
02:14:51,039 --> 02:14:54,680
just kind of pushing x X attack attack, attack a lot.

3198
02:14:54,920 --> 02:14:57,760
And for me, it's a flow state and it's relaxing

3199
02:14:58,079 --> 02:15:01,000
and I enjoy it. I just kind of the progression

3200
02:15:01,159 --> 02:15:04,319
and the exploration of it. But it's a very different

3201
02:15:04,520 --> 02:15:08,560
from the game being dominated by this literal chess board

3202
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:11,239
and thinking about these kind of big battles where every

3203
02:15:11,319 --> 02:15:12,640
decision really matters.

3204
02:15:12,920 --> 02:15:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like I'm like leveling up all

3205
02:15:14,439 --> 02:15:16,199
these different things and everything versus like, yeah, you talk

3206
02:15:16,199 --> 02:15:18,960
about Final Fantasy, And I tried several times because FF

3207
02:15:19,079 --> 02:15:21,640
seven was such a thing that people like it was

3208
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:22,000
held on.

3209
02:15:22,079 --> 02:15:23,800
Speaker 1: It's like it was like a middle year solid level

3210
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:25,359
of a pedestal back then, oh for sure.

3211
02:15:25,399 --> 02:15:27,680
Speaker 2: And I tried several times to play it, and it

3212
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,239
was like as soon as the overworld opened up, you know,

3213
02:15:30,279 --> 02:15:31,680
I remember, I think the farthest I got in that

3214
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:33,880
game was the Golden Saucer all the times I tried

3215
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:35,600
to play it, and because it would open up to

3216
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:37,800
that overworld at some point, and it's just like I

3217
02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:40,159
remember every time it would we go into the fight,

3218
02:15:40,239 --> 02:15:42,680
if god fucking damn it, I'm just gonna hit X

3219
02:15:42,760 --> 02:15:44,359
and like I gotta wait for the load back out,

3220
02:15:44,399 --> 02:15:46,359
and like I don't feel like I'm really playing, you know.

3221
02:15:46,479 --> 02:15:50,520
But like Tactics was like I'm thinking I'm doing things,

3222
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:51,439
you know, yep.

3223
02:15:51,359 --> 02:15:54,159
Speaker 4: Even like just seeing the Tactics in magazines, I'd be like, yeah,

3224
02:15:54,239 --> 02:15:57,359
that looks appealing. That just looks so much fun. I'm like,

3225
02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:00,279
I imagine myself liking Final Fantasy Taxics, but where I

3226
02:16:00,359 --> 02:16:02,760
ever played it, And then when I finally did, it's like, yeah,

3227
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:07,119
this super click. That's that is uh okay, we joke

3228
02:16:07,119 --> 02:16:09,960
about Marvel Rivals. I did a red Light try to

3229
02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:12,239
play some Final Fantasy Tactics and kept playing it for

3230
02:16:12,399 --> 02:16:14,720
like ten seconds longer than I should have. And I

3231
02:16:14,840 --> 02:16:18,000
remember that like no way back in the day. I

3232
02:16:18,039 --> 02:16:20,119
was driving to my job at FedEx, and I just

3233
02:16:20,159 --> 02:16:22,520
remember being like, I'm driving, what am I doing? I

3234
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:23,920
had to like close it and like throw it in

3235
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:27,039
the seat. The worst driving it was terrible. I was

3236
02:16:27,279 --> 02:16:28,640
I'm like, I just like brought it with me. I'll

3237
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:30,000
play it on my lunch break, and I think I

3238
02:16:30,119 --> 02:16:32,120
just was like, well, this red Light's taking fucking forever.

3239
02:16:32,159 --> 02:16:34,399
Speaker 3: I'll just play some here and I'm like and.

3240
02:16:34,399 --> 02:16:39,360
Speaker 4: I'm playing like Summer Zone and then it's like I stuck.

3241
02:16:39,399 --> 02:16:41,239
I'm like I just got to finish this thing. And

3242
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:42,760
then I'm just like I'm like this is terrible. And

3243
02:16:42,799 --> 02:16:44,040
I closed it and I like threw it so I

3244
02:16:44,079 --> 02:16:44,879
couldn't even reach.

3245
02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:49,159
Speaker 3: It, and damn, where are you with firearm blew?

3246
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:53,879
Speaker 1: I can't remember liked it a lot on GBA.

3247
02:16:54,120 --> 02:16:57,040
Speaker 2: I might have reviewed some of those GBA games and

3248
02:16:57,159 --> 02:16:59,200
then Battalion, like I don't know, I played all the

3249
02:16:59,239 --> 02:17:01,079
battalion wars, the ones that don't really matter no one

3250
02:17:01,159 --> 02:17:01,600
cares about.

3251
02:17:01,959 --> 02:17:06,000
Speaker 1: Uh. The one that I really loved was Awakening, making

3252
02:17:06,159 --> 02:17:09,159
the best one. That one's so fucking good. I played

3253
02:17:09,479 --> 02:17:10,440
ship out of that game.

3254
02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:12,479
Speaker 2: God, the actual like tactic parts of that and like

3255
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:14,760
the way that like certain characters you know, working off

3256
02:17:14,799 --> 02:17:16,600
each other and everything, Like I love everything about it.

3257
02:17:17,360 --> 02:17:19,680
Between that game it's so good, and the stuff in

3258
02:17:19,760 --> 02:17:24,079
between was not so dominant. It wasn't like where they

3259
02:17:24,159 --> 02:17:26,000
lost me was you go to the newer games and

3260
02:17:26,120 --> 02:17:28,799
it's like, all right, half the game, if not more,

3261
02:17:29,159 --> 02:17:31,799
is like in between, I'm walking around chatting to animate

3262
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:33,440
people and like, okay, I can deal with that if

3263
02:17:33,479 --> 02:17:36,440
it's like two seconds between fucking cool fights.

3264
02:17:36,799 --> 02:17:39,280
Speaker 1: But like the switch ones and everything.

3265
02:17:39,360 --> 02:17:41,200
Speaker 3: I was okay with it in three Houses and then

3266
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:43,680
like engaged in it, but worse.

3267
02:17:43,479 --> 02:17:46,120
Speaker 4: And engage just like run around and go do five

3268
02:17:46,239 --> 02:17:51,159
things every time, and the tactics are so good and

3269
02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:53,440
engaged though it's the best final, it's the best Fire

3270
02:17:53,479 --> 02:17:55,520
Home has ever been in terms of gameplay, but just

3271
02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:56,879
everything in between so much.

3272
02:17:56,799 --> 02:17:59,959
Speaker 3: Everything is like the aesthetics worst, the characters are worst.

3273
02:18:00,040 --> 02:18:01,639
That in between stuff is bullshit.

3274
02:18:01,719 --> 02:18:03,239
Speaker 4: I wish I wish they would that would get a

3275
02:18:03,280 --> 02:18:05,959
special edition, they would edit all that stuff Downrob, you

3276
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:07,399
got me thinking about this stuff when you were talking

3277
02:18:07,399 --> 02:18:10,799
about that Advance Wars like this week on the BombCast,

3278
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:12,520
and it's like, man, I just want to play more

3279
02:18:12,559 --> 02:18:14,680
fucking advanced wars, Like I bring my analog.

3280
02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:17,479
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll just wind up playing blackmon Rising here. Yeah,

3281
02:18:17,600 --> 02:18:17,879
there you go.

3282
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:20,680
Speaker 4: That Tiny Metal two is pretty good. That is a

3283
02:18:20,719 --> 02:18:21,040
good one.

3284
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:23,479
Speaker 2: Oh I downloaded it, so it's an option while I'm

3285
02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:28,360
out there. Okay, yeah, alrighty okay. This is a quiz

3286
02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:33,719
for YouTube. Oh fun from Piston Hundai, who's frequent. He's

3287
02:18:33,799 --> 02:18:36,760
got a lot of good trivia knowledge, and uh we

3288
02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:39,879
got one here and it says, hey gang. A remaster

3289
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:44,520
for the also ran nineties mascot platformer Kroc Legend of

3290
02:18:44,559 --> 02:18:47,200
the Gabbos came out recently, and while playing it, I

3291
02:18:47,319 --> 02:18:49,479
learned it had far more success than you would think.

3292
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:51,520
With this in mind, I thought it'd be fun to

3293
02:18:51,559 --> 02:18:54,159
have a quiz one that cuts Marry at break because

3294
02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:56,440
even though you have to be smoking dust to think

3295
02:18:56,479 --> 02:18:59,399
that Diablo two is more important than Mario sixty four.

3296
02:19:00,399 --> 02:19:03,040
Speaker 3: I was so with you. I love Mary. I got

3297
02:19:03,159 --> 02:19:04,680
so mad at her listening to that.

3298
02:19:04,959 --> 02:19:08,040
Speaker 4: I sometimes you guys have arguments on the show where

3299
02:19:08,120 --> 02:19:09,639
people are like, no, you need to go listen to this.

3300
02:19:09,840 --> 02:19:11,760
I never listened to the Links Awakening one because I

3301
02:19:11,799 --> 02:19:13,600
couldn't hear listen to you guys talk about that. When

3302
02:19:13,600 --> 02:19:15,079
I heard that, I'm like, I can't. I can't even

3303
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:18,680
listen to Mary talk this bullshit about Diablo being more

3304
02:19:18,719 --> 02:19:20,159
important than Mario sixty four.

3305
02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:23,520
Speaker 3: Why don't we real quickly me and you say that

3306
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:28,120
Link's Awakenings won the best games ever. Just everybody, no.

3307
02:19:29,879 --> 02:19:32,760
Speaker 1: On the place you'll put that on the list. Yes,

3308
02:19:34,079 --> 02:19:34,719
Mike and Dance.

3309
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:37,879
Speaker 2: Nostalgia might be clouding their judgment of the n sixty

3310
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:41,120
four's impact to a degree, regardless, And so I asked

3311
02:19:41,159 --> 02:19:45,959
them which of these Nintendo sixty four classics sold more

3312
02:19:46,079 --> 02:19:49,120
copies than a middle of the Road PS one game

3313
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:51,760
nobody under the age of twenty five has heard of.

3314
02:19:52,399 --> 02:19:55,319
Speaker 4: So, okay, but this is Crocs weird.

3315
02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:58,159
Speaker 2: But I have ten games here, and if you will

3316
02:19:58,239 --> 02:20:01,360
tell me what sold more the game, I'm gonna say

3317
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:04,239
or Kroc Legend of the Gobbos. Okay, it's gonna be

3318
02:20:04,280 --> 02:20:07,280
sixty four game versus Kroc for PlayStation one. Are you

3319
02:20:07,319 --> 02:20:09,600
ready Yoshi's Story?

3320
02:20:10,559 --> 02:20:12,799
Speaker 3: I think there's no way Yoshi Story sold more than Kroc.

3321
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:16,319
Yeats Kroc was supposed to be a Yoshi game, but

3322
02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:18,559
that's like the very first original idea for it.

3323
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:23,079
Speaker 1: Anyways, Yep, the winner is Kroc. Yeah, Kirby sixty four.

3324
02:20:23,959 --> 02:20:27,319
Speaker 4: Probably, yeah, no one, No one played Kirby sixty four.

3325
02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:30,000
Speaker 3: I bet I woonderf Kirby sixty four sold better than

3326
02:20:30,079 --> 02:20:33,399
Yoshi's Story. I don't know, I bet not. I bet not.

3327
02:20:34,079 --> 02:20:37,920
Speaker 1: So your answer both Crock Kroc. The answer is Krock Okay,

3328
02:20:38,559 --> 02:20:39,600
Perfect Dark.

3329
02:20:41,559 --> 02:20:45,200
Speaker 3: Oh, it feels going. I definitely sold better than Kroc.

3330
02:20:45,319 --> 02:20:49,520
Speaker 4: But I'll just say Perfect Dark because you know it

3331
02:20:49,559 --> 02:20:51,799
should be it should it should have sold more. Let's say,

3332
02:20:52,040 --> 02:20:54,639
I bet it's somehow still is Krock. But yeah, now

3333
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:56,879
for my own sanity, say perfect Dark. There are so

3334
02:20:56,959 --> 02:20:58,520
many games on the play that there's like a handfl

3335
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:01,000
of games on the PlayStation that sold weirdly well, like

3336
02:21:01,079 --> 02:21:03,799
that Frogger game, Like like, what are we talking about it?

3337
02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:06,719
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the answer is Crock.

3338
02:21:07,239 --> 02:21:08,959
Speaker 3: Okay, it's gonna be Crock for all.

3339
02:21:09,239 --> 02:21:09,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3340
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:13,159
Speaker 4: Star Wars Shadows of the Empire. Oh, that was a

3341
02:21:13,239 --> 02:21:15,440
big game too. It's a launch game. It's like the one,

3342
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:17,840
like the other game you could well near launch, right,

3343
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:21,719
It's like one of the other games you could have got. Yeah,

3344
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:25,000
how the Star Wars, Yeah, it's still crack, but I'm

3345
02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:26,719
gonna say it's probably still I think it's gonna.

3346
02:21:26,479 --> 02:21:27,639
Speaker 3: Be Crock for all of them, but I'll say Star

3347
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:28,920
Wars the winner is Crock.

3348
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rock, Dinosaur Hunter, it's Crock.

3349
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:34,680
Speaker 3: Crock.

3350
02:21:35,120 --> 02:21:36,200
Speaker 1: Pokemon Stadium too.

3351
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:43,200
Speaker 3: Two Mmmm. It's a late and in second in Town

3352
02:21:43,280 --> 02:21:45,520
sixty four game. Yeah, I guess it's kind of like

3353
02:21:45,879 --> 02:21:47,520
to really get the most out of that, you need

3354
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:50,079
already have gold and silver and like the link stuff.

3355
02:21:50,959 --> 02:21:52,040
I'm gonna say, Crock.

3356
02:21:51,959 --> 02:21:55,959
Speaker 1: It's Crock. Wit you have no mercy ship.

3357
02:21:56,639 --> 02:21:59,959
Speaker 3: That's crazy, It's insane. It's cross saying that it's Crock.

3358
02:22:00,200 --> 02:22:05,040
Speaker 1: Away is Kroc. Mario Tennis, that's fucking crah Man.

3359
02:22:05,120 --> 02:22:07,680
Speaker 4: Mario Tennis is so good, but fucking Kroc.

3360
02:22:07,920 --> 02:22:13,239
Speaker 2: Winner is Kroc. Mario Golf, It's come on the crock

3361
02:22:13,319 --> 02:22:22,040
of the final question. Mario party, Oh, Mario party, It's

3362
02:22:22,079 --> 02:22:23,040
a Mario party.

3363
02:22:23,440 --> 02:22:24,440
Speaker 4: Yes, stick it in at the end.

3364
02:22:24,520 --> 02:22:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to read this for Baidum. The winner is

3365
02:22:26,920 --> 02:22:32,399
Mario Party. Yeah, just kidding it. Somehow fucking Crock again got.

3366
02:22:32,559 --> 02:22:35,440
Speaker 4: So the places you fans do love to point this out. Uh,

3367
02:22:35,799 --> 02:22:37,399
and then you have to ask them, well, how well

3368
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:38,719
did KROC to sell?

3369
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:39,120
Speaker 3: Well?

3370
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:42,280
Speaker 2: Exactly true, yes, but we have a bonus round and

3371
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:43,840
it could be a tie breaker.

3372
02:22:43,840 --> 02:22:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember the score, but the bonus round is.

3373
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:50,600
Speaker 2: Kroc is reported to have sold over three million copies

3374
02:22:50,680 --> 02:22:53,680
on the PS one alone. Of the three hundred and

3375
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:57,399
eighty eight games released for the Nintendo sixty four, how

3376
02:22:57,479 --> 02:22:59,159
many of them passed this mark?

3377
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:01,840
Speaker 3: The closest there aren't that many.

3378
02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 4: N CC four is so like what they sold forty

3379
02:23:04,520 --> 02:23:10,159
million five. I bet the only ones that sold better

3380
02:23:10,239 --> 02:23:16,280
than it are Mario Offerin of Time, Gordon I, Mario Kart,

3381
02:23:17,159 --> 02:23:20,159
and Smash Brothers One.

3382
02:23:20,799 --> 02:23:23,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm at five. Yeah, five sounds good, but I

3383
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:27,719
gotta do more. Maybe maybe like some other rare game

3384
02:23:27,799 --> 02:23:29,719
did well, I'm gonna say six.

3385
02:23:30,239 --> 02:23:34,120
Speaker 1: The answer is thirteen thirteen. Okay, whether I win.

3386
02:23:34,840 --> 02:23:35,159
Speaker 2: There you go.

3387
02:23:35,639 --> 02:23:40,319
Speaker 4: That's closer wild the Crock Yeah, yeah, like PlayStation just

3388
02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:43,520
has a handful of those anomalies and it's like, you

3389
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:46,040
know what it was. They wanted their Mario sixty four

3390
02:23:46,079 --> 02:23:48,120
and they were desperate for it, so it's like they

3391
02:23:48,159 --> 02:23:49,399
were looking for it in anything.

3392
02:23:49,559 --> 02:23:51,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I was telling myself Crash was just as

3393
02:23:51,280 --> 02:23:52,280
good as Mario, and then it was.

3394
02:23:52,479 --> 02:23:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then just like the Crocks like that. But

3395
02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:57,040
it's got like it's actually three D worlds and you

3396
02:23:57,120 --> 02:23:59,799
run around and say, yeah, okay, have fun with that. Yeah,

3397
02:24:00,079 --> 02:24:02,680
you have a good time of Crock piss some great stuff.

3398
02:24:03,319 --> 02:24:04,920
Was fine Ques, Yeah, I like that. That's a good

3399
02:24:04,959 --> 02:24:06,760
I mean, listen, we do that with Luigi's mansion, right,

3400
02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:08,799
so medicine.

3401
02:24:08,719 --> 02:24:09,920
Speaker 1: That's scary to play.

3402
02:24:12,799 --> 02:24:13,399
Speaker 3: For you too.

3403
02:24:14,799 --> 02:24:16,479
Speaker 4: That's my favorite, by the way.

3404
02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:19,639
Speaker 1: That's a good all right.

3405
02:24:19,719 --> 02:24:21,959
Speaker 2: Next up, Hello, I am a thirty three year old

3406
02:24:22,079 --> 02:24:25,200
father of two. Love my family more than anything. Side

3407
02:24:25,200 --> 02:24:27,639
effects include getting so little me time sometimes you get

3408
02:24:27,719 --> 02:24:30,760
choice paralysis and do nothing instead. Let me tell you,

3409
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:33,120
wasting your free time when you often feel this way

3410
02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:36,280
is quite regrettable. But what's not regrettable is using a

3411
02:24:36,319 --> 02:24:39,200
few hours on a Saturday evening after a tough bedtime

3412
02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:43,120
battle to soak in the goodness that is mcgruber. My

3413
02:24:43,239 --> 02:24:46,319
favorite part was when the spoiler warning nuke went off,

3414
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:50,520
killing the main antagonist well and blowing up the warehouse.

3415
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:53,879
Some editing guy must have decided to play a tiger

3416
02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:57,799
roaring during that really cool explosion. Bless that editing guy

3417
02:24:58,040 --> 02:25:00,959
at stage. Yeah, it's it's really like up there in

3418
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:01,840
the mix too, It's.

3419
02:25:01,719 --> 02:25:07,120
Speaker 4: Like I love that movie.

3420
02:25:07,319 --> 02:25:07,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3421
02:25:07,559 --> 02:25:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone took out.

3422
02:25:09,079 --> 02:25:12,479
Speaker 2: The tributes to vel Kilmer that uh uh Will Forte

3423
02:25:12,639 --> 02:25:14,879
wrote and also I think on the Lonely Island podcast

3424
02:25:14,920 --> 02:25:16,120
did the whole thing about it. I did not know

3425
02:25:16,159 --> 02:25:18,840
that Will Forte and val Kilmer were roommates for months

3426
02:25:18,879 --> 02:25:19,600
after mcgoverer.

3427
02:25:19,719 --> 02:25:24,040
Speaker 4: That's you know, that most interesting man in the world.

3428
02:25:24,360 --> 02:25:27,319
That dose he's used to do. Melchilmer is maybe in

3429
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:28,639
the running for that actual time.

3430
02:25:28,639 --> 02:25:30,920
Speaker 2: I read his autobiography like last year, it's like he's

3431
02:25:31,159 --> 02:25:33,479
like just incredible, like incredible life.

3432
02:25:33,559 --> 02:25:33,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3433
02:25:33,959 --> 02:25:37,120
Speaker 2: Oh yes, rest in peace, Vell all right, next up, hey,

3434
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:38,719
fire Escape. I had a friend this week, tell me

3435
02:25:38,799 --> 02:25:42,360
my taste in movies is too obscure. He provided several examples,

3436
02:25:42,440 --> 02:25:46,319
including The Big Lebowski. In no way, shape or form

3437
02:25:46,520 --> 02:25:47,799
is that an obscure movie?

3438
02:25:47,959 --> 02:25:48,879
Speaker 1: But to him it is.

3439
02:25:49,559 --> 02:25:52,120
Speaker 2: Would my family know what the Big Lebowski is, would

3440
02:25:52,120 --> 02:25:54,399
a random stranger on the street know it? It made

3441
02:25:54,440 --> 02:25:56,879
me think about what obscure is. You all have what

3442
02:25:57,040 --> 02:26:01,600
many would have considered obscure interests, and he gave Eames, wrestling, warhammer,

3443
02:26:01,719 --> 02:26:04,200
et cetera. But within the realm of other people who

3444
02:26:04,280 --> 02:26:06,959
engage in those hobbies, you may not go as deep

3445
02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:09,719
as others do. My question for you is what hobby

3446
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,399
do you consider yourself to have the most surface level

3447
02:26:12,559 --> 02:26:15,479
understanding and or knowledge of? In Which hobby do you

3448
02:26:15,520 --> 02:26:18,719
have the most in depth understanding of ps and people

3449
02:26:18,719 --> 02:26:20,399
can brush your teeth in the shower, then Dan should

3450
02:26:20,399 --> 02:26:22,239
be able to clean his butthole in the sink, just

3451
02:26:22,399 --> 02:26:25,479
saying love. I don't know if that was from what

3452
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:27,959
happens on this show. I don't know what happened last episode.

3453
02:26:28,840 --> 02:26:35,040
My butthole is just for the shower, a showering god,

3454
02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:35,520
and that's it.

3455
02:26:35,879 --> 02:26:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild, because like, like you, you can't understand that.

3456
02:26:39,959 --> 02:26:42,399
There's some people just look at Big Lebowski. You're like,

3457
02:26:42,479 --> 02:26:46,319
that's some obscure thing. But if you are even sniffing

3458
02:26:46,600 --> 02:26:50,040
the realm of being a sinophile, then the big Lebowski

3459
02:26:50,159 --> 02:26:52,879
is like so common it's so.

3460
02:26:53,079 --> 02:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Popular several decades. Right.

3461
02:26:56,959 --> 02:27:00,520
Speaker 3: It's like it's like in that pulp fiction like own, or.

3462
02:27:01,079 --> 02:27:02,840
Speaker 2: In a bar in Iceland a couple of years ago

3463
02:27:02,840 --> 02:27:05,719
when there's a big Lebowski you bar in Iceland there's

3464
02:27:05,719 --> 02:27:07,600
a big Lebowski festival.

3465
02:27:07,360 --> 02:27:10,399
Speaker 3: Like my my bar has Big Labowski Day. They so

3466
02:27:10,680 --> 02:27:11,360
mugs for it.

3467
02:27:11,559 --> 02:27:14,360
Speaker 4: It's not yeah, come on, no, it clearly you're clearly right.

3468
02:27:14,399 --> 02:27:17,319
But I mean I have had those friends who are

3469
02:27:17,399 --> 02:27:20,200
like every paycheck like this is a long time ago.

3470
02:27:20,239 --> 02:27:22,319
So this story is gonna sound out David. Every paycheck,

3471
02:27:22,360 --> 02:27:23,959
I'm just gonna go. I'm gonna go to best Buy

3472
02:27:24,239 --> 02:27:26,399
and I'm gonna buy a bunch of DVDs. He's like, oh,

3473
02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:28,079
this guy must really like movie. And he's like, yeah,

3474
02:27:28,120 --> 02:27:30,280
come in my room. And it's like, well that sure

3475
02:27:30,399 --> 02:27:33,239
is every Police Academy movie and every Mike Myers.

3476
02:27:33,040 --> 02:27:36,879
Speaker 1: Movie and man, no hate School for sure.

3477
02:27:37,719 --> 02:27:42,000
Speaker 4: School for sure like like maybe two copies, and it's

3478
02:27:42,079 --> 02:27:44,719
like anything else, It's like, no, literally nothing else other

3479
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:47,680
than here are like the corporate comedies. And like, again,

3480
02:27:47,760 --> 02:27:49,600
I love these movies. I'm not like putting them down

3481
02:27:49,639 --> 02:27:51,479
by calling them that, but it's like, here's the movies

3482
02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:53,440
corporations have made for me. These are the movies I like.

3483
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:55,000
And that's as far as they think about it. And

3484
02:27:55,959 --> 02:27:57,920
I've seen it, so I get how this happens.

3485
02:27:58,079 --> 02:27:59,840
Speaker 3: Some people just have I don't want to say simple.

3486
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:03,559
We had a friend in my circle and we kind

3487
02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:06,280
of like always laugh because the Hobbit movies came out

3488
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:08,200
right and we were like, man, tho zos are so

3489
02:28:08,280 --> 02:28:10,360
bad and she couldn't understand why we thought they were bad,

3490
02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:12,280
and she was like, all right, but they had the

3491
02:28:12,319 --> 02:28:15,319
biggest battle. It was like the biggest battle ever. And

3492
02:28:15,399 --> 02:28:17,559
in the movies the battle was so big, and like

3493
02:28:17,879 --> 02:28:20,399
to this day with like basically were talking about slop,

3494
02:28:20,479 --> 02:28:22,399
we're kind of like, yeah, but it had the biggest battle.

3495
02:28:24,399 --> 02:28:26,440
Speaker 2: I remember I was doing like a watch party on

3496
02:28:26,479 --> 02:28:28,319
a Twitch night or something, and it was like after

3497
02:28:28,799 --> 02:28:30,840
me and Kayla had been streaming something, so she was

3498
02:28:30,920 --> 02:28:34,280
like on the call on discord basically, and the movie

3499
02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:37,600
was Big Lebowski and I remember like we hit the

3500
02:28:37,680 --> 02:28:39,879
thing and me and Caleb Pinner's playing the game and

3501
02:28:39,879 --> 02:28:42,840
I'm about to start Big Lebowski and I'm like, Kyl's.

3502
02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:44,559
Speaker 1: Like I'll stick around. It's like I don't know this

3503
02:28:44,719 --> 02:28:47,319
is gonna be a Caleb movie. She was like, no,

3504
02:28:47,559 --> 02:28:47,920
watch it.

3505
02:28:48,280 --> 02:28:51,040
Speaker 2: And we watched like the first like forty minutes and

3506
02:28:51,120 --> 02:28:54,520
like I'm cracking up the chat's loving it. Kayla is

3507
02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:58,680
just like it's not even like registering how it's a comedy. Yeah,

3508
02:28:58,879 --> 02:29:00,840
and it's like I think there's a certain but she's

3509
02:29:00,879 --> 02:29:03,000
not a movie person at all. She's not like, I

3510
02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:05,319
don't know, b Lebowski is like a comedy snob movie

3511
02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:06,959
or a movie snob movie.

3512
02:29:06,799 --> 02:29:11,680
Speaker 4: But like it's it's a if you are not into

3513
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:13,600
on its level, it's like, oh, you have to watch

3514
02:29:13,639 --> 02:29:16,280
it three times before it becomes funny movie. Like for sure,

3515
02:29:16,920 --> 02:29:18,440
I think I actually hated it the first time I

3516
02:29:18,479 --> 02:29:20,280
saw especially because I think I didn't get it the

3517
02:29:20,280 --> 02:29:21,719
first time. But I watched it as a teenager and

3518
02:29:21,799 --> 02:29:23,520
it was like I needed a little bit more under

3519
02:29:23,559 --> 02:29:23,879
my belt.

3520
02:29:23,959 --> 02:29:25,920
Speaker 3: Plus my brother was one of those people who really

3521
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:27,760
liked even before I saw it, so I was just

3522
02:29:27,879 --> 02:29:30,600
kind of like going in already thinking it was obnoxious.

3523
02:29:30,920 --> 02:29:32,319
Then like when I saw it for the third time

3524
02:29:32,440 --> 02:29:34,479
five years later, I'm like, this is pretty It's a

3525
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:38,719
pretty freaking good Yeah, pretty pretty fun. Well, it's it's

3526
02:29:38,719 --> 02:29:39,440
a perfect script.

3527
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good, one of the most perfect. It's

3528
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:43,639
maybe the comedy that's aged the best ever.

3529
02:29:44,079 --> 02:29:46,760
Speaker 3: Yes, in terms of like hobby, I am in the

3530
02:29:47,239 --> 02:29:49,799
deepest weeds of it. Might be the Disney theme park

3531
02:29:49,840 --> 02:29:51,639
stuff even more than video games.

3532
02:29:51,879 --> 02:29:53,879
Speaker 4: But what's the most surface? So I I do keep

3533
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,760
music at a distance. I just uh, it's like I

3534
02:29:57,440 --> 02:29:59,840
enjoy hearing music. I like listening to it, but like I,

3535
02:30:00,079 --> 02:30:01,520
like I talked about with you the other day, Mike,

3536
02:30:01,559 --> 02:30:04,280
I don't really try to learn the tracks names. I

3537
02:30:04,319 --> 02:30:06,319
don't like I know the song when I hear it,

3538
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:08,239
and I'll try to find it. I'll bring it up

3539
02:30:08,280 --> 02:30:09,559
every once in a while, but I'll be like searching

3540
02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:12,159
for some random lyric to try to find it, and I,

3541
02:30:12,479 --> 02:30:15,319
you know, don't even like know the names of the

3542
02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:17,600
tracks are some of my favorite band's biggest songs. So

3543
02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:20,200
it's like, but it's it has not been a detriment

3544
02:30:20,239 --> 02:30:22,920
to my enjoyment of music. But I don't pretend to

3545
02:30:22,959 --> 02:30:24,600
be someone who's like a music guy.

3546
02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm kind of similar with music a lot of other things.

3547
02:30:27,959 --> 02:30:30,280
If I like it, I do kind of like get

3548
02:30:30,360 --> 02:30:32,680
into it and I want to know, like how how

3549
02:30:32,840 --> 02:30:35,399
is this may like I can't just drink Scotch. When

3550
02:30:35,399 --> 02:30:38,000
I got into Scotch during the pandemic, I did want

3551
02:30:38,079 --> 02:30:40,920
to learn about the different regions and why, why what

3552
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:44,239
makes p D scotch peatie? What is Pete? Like? What

3553
02:30:44,360 --> 02:30:47,559
are we doing here? And things like that. So yeah,

3554
02:30:48,280 --> 02:30:50,639
music's probably a similar one, and it's you know, it's

3555
02:30:50,639 --> 02:30:53,159
always kind of funny because I just don't know certain things,

3556
02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:55,280
especially about the Wutan group or whatever.

3557
02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:58,719
Speaker 2: It's funny how you can simultaneously feel like I'm both

3558
02:30:58,760 --> 02:31:01,760
sides of like, you know, an expert or not about something,

3559
02:31:01,799 --> 02:31:04,280
because like with movies, I know, it's a common joke

3560
02:31:04,280 --> 02:31:06,479
where it's like, you know, I went to film school,

3561
02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:08,719
but like I don't get symbolism and and I haven't

3562
02:31:08,719 --> 02:31:10,680
seen this thing or whatever, but like I'm talking about

3563
02:31:10,719 --> 02:31:12,559
like you know, Big Lebowski and stuff like that. Like

3564
02:31:12,879 --> 02:31:14,559
I think a lot of people on the internet don't

3565
02:31:14,639 --> 02:31:19,159
know enough normies because it's like I am they battle

3566
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:23,600
those normal people. I have definitely watched way more movies

3567
02:31:23,639 --> 02:31:26,760
and no way more about movies than most folks. But

3568
02:31:26,840 --> 02:31:28,319
then it's like there are times too where it's like,

3569
02:31:28,479 --> 02:31:31,520
you know, I fucking love Rocky and I remember it was,

3570
02:31:31,559 --> 02:31:33,000
you know, a couple of years ago. At this point,

3571
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:35,559
Jess on a podcast was like, Oh, how do you

3572
02:31:35,639 --> 02:31:37,520
not know this thing about you love Rocky? How do

3573
02:31:37,600 --> 02:31:39,879
you not know that he like sold his dog or

3574
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:43,280
whatever to the Rocky one or something like. I never

3575
02:31:43,360 --> 02:31:45,559
went deep on the making of Rocky really, but like

3576
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:47,879
I thought about Rocky every day in my life and

3577
02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:48,879
seen them all a million times.

3578
02:31:49,000 --> 02:31:50,399
Speaker 1: But that like makes me think like, oh, wait, am

3579
02:31:50,399 --> 02:31:52,040
I just like a fake movie fan or something?

3580
02:31:52,479 --> 02:31:54,239
Speaker 2: But then you meet like normies and it's like, oh,

3581
02:31:54,360 --> 02:31:57,040
you don't know who scor says he is or something,

3582
02:31:57,120 --> 02:31:59,799
you know, like that type of thing. But like, there's

3583
02:31:59,799 --> 02:32:01,639
all going to be different levels to that, and I

3584
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:04,159
think the end is always going to be super skewed,

3585
02:32:04,399 --> 02:32:06,639
like super online people are always going to be like.

3586
02:32:07,239 --> 02:32:10,079
Speaker 1: Oh, this guy doesn't know anything, and no, just go

3587
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:11,680
talk to your neighbors. You know they're gonna know.

3588
02:32:13,440 --> 02:32:15,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, go go read them your letter box reviews, and

3589
02:32:15,559 --> 02:32:17,479
I promise you they'll get their shotgun and ask you

3590
02:32:17,559 --> 02:32:17,879
to leave.

3591
02:32:18,079 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3592
02:32:18,399 --> 02:32:20,440
Speaker 1: They probably have their phones out during a movie.

3593
02:32:21,200 --> 02:32:23,879
Speaker 3: Probably that's disgusting.

3594
02:32:26,959 --> 02:32:28,959
Speaker 1: Oh right, oh yeah, service level? Did I say?

3595
02:32:29,799 --> 02:32:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think like, because I feel like I

3596
02:32:32,440 --> 02:32:35,120
only kind of go super deep on stuff where it's like,

3597
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:37,840
like the most he has got to be wrestling for me.

3598
02:32:38,040 --> 02:32:41,120
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you got wrestling more than anything.

3599
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:42,639
Speaker 2: Especially now that I've like, you know, I have worked

3600
02:32:42,680 --> 02:32:44,239
there and know people that are like I have to

3601
02:32:44,559 --> 02:32:46,159
that has to be maybe more than video games because

3602
02:32:46,159 --> 02:32:48,319
I don't know anything about like making video games.

3603
02:32:48,719 --> 02:32:51,239
Speaker 1: But boys gave up a couple of guys putting match together,

3604
02:32:51,399 --> 02:32:53,440
you know, right, exactly? No, for sure?

3605
02:32:54,719 --> 02:32:58,920
Speaker 2: All right, final question of the evening. Hello, all, I'm

3606
02:32:58,959 --> 02:33:01,840
about to be an asshole, but I need to ask,

3607
02:33:02,239 --> 02:33:04,239
does Dan understand why the Hobbits are the.

3608
02:33:04,280 --> 02:33:05,559
Speaker 1: Heroes of the Lord of the Rings?

3609
02:33:05,799 --> 02:33:06,360
Speaker 3: Oh? God?

3610
02:33:06,760 --> 02:33:09,680
Speaker 2: Like? The whole point is that it's the smallest, the

3611
02:33:09,760 --> 02:33:13,319
physically least impressive, people who mostly love eating food and

3612
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:16,600
smoking weed and staying at home and minding their own

3613
02:33:16,639 --> 02:33:19,639
business that are the only ones capable of saving the world.

3614
02:33:20,120 --> 02:33:22,840
And maybe that message continues to have relevance in twenty

3615
02:33:22,959 --> 02:33:25,680
twenty five. To put a very fine point on it,

3616
02:33:26,000 --> 02:33:28,840
he gets that he himself is way closer to a

3617
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:32,319
Hobbit than he is to Vigo Mortenson. Yes, the Midwest

3618
02:33:32,479 --> 02:33:35,280
is his shire. Okay, love you all, even though you

3619
02:33:35,360 --> 02:33:37,799
make me shoot hot on a regular basis. That is

3620
02:33:37,959 --> 02:33:45,360
Nate from Bloomington, Minnesota. Okay, Yes, of course, of course

3621
02:33:45,399 --> 02:33:46,840
I'm closer to a hobbit tonight.

3622
02:33:46,920 --> 02:33:50,000
Speaker 1: But I also don't think I'm like a strong, cool hero.

3623
02:33:50,280 --> 02:33:55,159
Speaker 3: Okay, But like Dan, I would much rather see a

3624
02:33:55,239 --> 02:34:03,040
movie starring you than like, I don't know mister Tuffy

3625
02:34:03,159 --> 02:34:06,079
mc tough guy, whoever that would be these days. Right,

3626
02:34:06,760 --> 02:34:09,840
Like you are an interesting character who would be out

3627
02:34:09,920 --> 02:34:14,559
of his element and would have to rise above, kind

3628
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:18,239
of like John Cena, right, Like, that's what's interesting about it.

3629
02:34:18,479 --> 02:34:24,440
And there's something more beautiful and inspiring about you facing

3630
02:34:24,760 --> 02:34:28,200
incredible odds and kind of being inserted into this battle

3631
02:34:28,280 --> 02:34:32,360
amongst gods. And here's just Dan Reichert. And actually he's

3632
02:34:32,399 --> 02:34:35,200
the one who's going to make the biggest difference and

3633
02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:39,639
say all that you don't have an ego. That's why

3634
02:34:39,680 --> 02:34:42,760
it's great because you're WoT you wouldn't, but you do,

3635
02:34:43,440 --> 02:34:51,840
because small things can create greatness in this world. Yes,

3636
02:34:51,920 --> 02:34:53,479
it's Rocky, it's Luke Skywalker, right.

3637
02:34:53,760 --> 02:34:58,520
Speaker 4: Luke Skywalker does long to be a hero, but everything

3638
02:34:58,600 --> 02:35:00,120
in his life has told him he can't be. His

3639
02:35:00,239 --> 02:35:03,120
situation has made it impossible. So even when confronted with

3640
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:05,360
the possibility to be in a hero, Ben's like come

3641
02:35:05,399 --> 02:35:07,120
with me, every like you got to come with me

3642
02:35:07,200 --> 02:35:10,000
to Aldron and help me out looks like what, No,

3643
02:35:10,319 --> 02:35:12,520
I can't do that. So then when he finally does

3644
02:35:12,559 --> 02:35:14,639
agree to go and do it, it's like, oh, he

3645
02:35:14,840 --> 02:35:17,000
Now he's got to actually deal with the consequences of

3646
02:35:17,079 --> 02:35:19,520
believing in himself and he's got to overcome that, and

3647
02:35:19,559 --> 02:35:21,479
that that's what makes the whole arc work.

3648
02:35:21,600 --> 02:35:23,959
Speaker 3: Like Rocky would not be a good movie if Rocky

3649
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:25,879
actually was the number one contender.

3650
02:35:25,799 --> 02:35:29,840
Speaker 1: A popular Rocky, Yes, it wouldn't be. Yeah, no, no.

3651
02:35:30,719 --> 02:35:32,600
Speaker 4: They picked him because he had a fun nickname and

3652
02:35:32,680 --> 02:35:35,440
he's a schlub and his life is depressing, right and

3653
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:38,159
he had like lost the Spider Rico and yeah.

3654
02:35:38,319 --> 02:35:41,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, he beat but he's beat. He beats

3655
02:35:41,760 --> 02:35:44,280
Spider Rico. Now, come on, let's just be clear here

3656
02:35:44,399 --> 02:35:44,719
about it.

3657
02:35:45,399 --> 02:35:48,440
Speaker 2: He can't be as simple as the difference is Rocky

3658
02:35:48,520 --> 02:35:50,959
seems real life and Lord of the Rings fantasy.

3659
02:35:51,120 --> 02:35:52,680
Speaker 3: I think it is. I think I do think you

3660
02:35:52,799 --> 02:35:54,920
have a hang up about fantasy, and I love I'm

3661
02:35:54,959 --> 02:35:56,879
not sure what it is. I like that.

3662
02:35:57,159 --> 02:35:59,319
Speaker 1: I like Thrones, Fine, I've read that whole first book.

3663
02:35:59,799 --> 02:36:01,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, like something for some reason you

3664
02:36:01,520 --> 02:36:04,760
get past it. But there's something about this more and

3665
02:36:04,840 --> 02:36:08,280
always I don't want to say sincere, but archetypal fantasy

3666
02:36:08,399 --> 02:36:10,719
that does have its roots in Lord of the Rings

3667
02:36:11,360 --> 02:36:14,799
that bristles against you and I don't know why.

3668
02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:16,959
Speaker 2: And back of the day when I would hear led

3669
02:36:17,040 --> 02:36:18,920
Zeppelin songs and I'd be like, these are the coolest

3670
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:20,040
dudes in the world, and be.

3671
02:36:20,040 --> 02:36:23,040
Speaker 1: Like more Door Dor.

3672
02:36:27,959 --> 02:36:29,639
Speaker 4: Led Zeppelin, famous dorks.

3673
02:36:32,719 --> 02:36:35,440
Speaker 1: This must just be some deep seated ball record stuff.

3674
02:36:35,479 --> 02:36:39,520
Speaker 2: Like everything is yeah, I have yeah, Like in my

3675
02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:43,559
mind though, like it's like would I root for Al's Like,

3676
02:36:43,639 --> 02:36:45,719
am I more excited about an AL Snow match or

3677
02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:49,520
a Kenney Omega match? Well, yeah, I'm closer to AL Snow,

3678
02:36:50,239 --> 02:36:52,840
but U N Mega is way cooler to watch.

3679
02:36:52,959 --> 02:36:54,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's an economy because like right, like everyone's

3680
02:36:54,959 --> 02:36:57,040
claims to like an underdog story, but you know, the

3681
02:36:57,159 --> 02:37:01,079
number one basketball team in most states, it is not

3682
02:37:01,200 --> 02:37:02,920
the team and that's in that state. It's the Los

3683
02:37:02,959 --> 02:37:06,959
Angeles Lakers. It's like they're people like front runners too.

3684
02:37:07,159 --> 02:37:11,600
So yeah, I think in a storytelling context, usually we

3685
02:37:11,719 --> 02:37:12,399
like the underdog.

3686
02:37:12,520 --> 02:37:12,879
Speaker 3: I love that.

3687
02:37:14,360 --> 02:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Story leading and the rest of you thirty like the

3688
02:37:16,079 --> 02:37:16,920
little Max story.

3689
02:37:17,399 --> 02:37:20,040
Speaker 3: That's what that is. Yeah, who is Brian Danielsen remind

3690
02:37:20,159 --> 02:37:23,200
you of perhaps a little bit, which is Little Mac. Yeah,

3691
02:37:23,239 --> 02:37:24,399
he's a little hobbitist.

3692
02:37:24,479 --> 02:37:28,360
Speaker 4: If you ask me that, Brian, he is the most

3693
02:37:28,479 --> 02:37:30,440
hobbitish wrestler that's ever existed.

3694
02:37:30,760 --> 02:37:32,360
Speaker 1: That beards, Hobbit score beards.

3695
02:37:32,600 --> 02:37:35,559
Speaker 3: Actually not usually but besides for the beard thing, come on,

3696
02:37:35,719 --> 02:37:37,959
it's kind of a short like he's like earthy and yeah,

3697
02:37:38,079 --> 02:37:39,639
he's very earthy the hemp Belt.

3698
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:42,879
Speaker 2: There was something about the Hobbits because again I went

3699
02:37:42,959 --> 02:37:45,319
into those movies. I can't say this enough. I went

3700
02:37:45,440 --> 02:37:47,399
into them wanting to love them so bad. I got

3701
02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:49,280
the first book, I thought it was gonna be the

3702
02:37:49,319 --> 02:37:50,399
Star Wars of my generation.

3703
02:37:50,799 --> 02:37:51,200
Speaker 1: I was so.

3704
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:53,040
Speaker 2: No.

3705
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:55,680
Speaker 3: No, whether you like it or not, it is the

3706
02:37:55,719 --> 02:37:56,920
Star Wars of our generation.

3707
02:37:57,239 --> 02:37:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

3708
02:37:57,479 --> 02:37:59,719
Speaker 4: I don't like it either, but the prequels certainly weren't.

3709
02:38:00,440 --> 02:38:04,559
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's just something about the Hobbits themselves just

3710
02:38:04,639 --> 02:38:06,399
seem to suck so aggressively.

3711
02:38:06,719 --> 02:38:08,920
Speaker 3: Do you like not like a grarian.

3712
02:38:09,440 --> 02:38:15,000
Speaker 4: What's like lifestyles like the farming cultural societies Valley. Yeah, like,

3713
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:17,799
I mean, like I think a lot of people they

3714
02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:19,799
see like they're like, oh wow, these people are like

3715
02:38:19,879 --> 02:38:21,600
of the earth and they have this kind of simple

3716
02:38:21,639 --> 02:38:23,920
life and they find something they kind of for that.

3717
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:27,360
Speaker 2: I want to be an old, weird hippie just fucking

3718
02:38:27,520 --> 02:38:28,840
smoking weed on a farm or something.

3719
02:38:28,879 --> 02:38:29,079
Speaker 1: Times.

3720
02:38:30,040 --> 02:38:31,840
Speaker 4: I want to live in the Shire, so goddamn it,

3721
02:38:33,399 --> 02:38:36,959
I would get along with the Hobbits great, Yes, I agree.

3722
02:38:37,239 --> 02:38:40,159
Speaker 1: I don't want them as the protagonist of my action movie.

3723
02:38:40,799 --> 02:38:43,520
Speaker 3: Right, it's not like calling it an action movie again

3724
02:38:43,639 --> 02:38:46,680
is missing the point, Dan, Not an action movie, not

3725
02:38:46,760 --> 02:38:47,280
an action.

3726
02:38:47,559 --> 02:38:50,520
Speaker 2: There's an action pitched to me? What makes the Lord

3727
02:38:50,520 --> 02:38:53,079
of the Rings special? You have like four sentences, Max.

3728
02:38:58,280 --> 02:38:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's rough because I like Lord of the Ring.

3729
02:39:00,040 --> 02:39:00,559
Speaker 1: Do you like them?

3730
02:39:01,639 --> 02:39:04,520
Speaker 4: Yes, but I don't like I wasn't in love with them,

3731
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:08,239
But I think when I rewatched the extended Edition quite

3732
02:39:08,239 --> 02:39:10,760
a few years ago, now like these are really good,

3733
02:39:10,840 --> 02:39:14,360
but like I'll like like Avacar more so that's what

3734
02:39:14,520 --> 02:39:14,680
I am.

3735
02:39:14,799 --> 02:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is good in the world and it wants

3736
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:24,840
to help you, But you still have the greatest power

3737
02:39:25,360 --> 02:39:30,600
to inflict change on the world. And also the trees

3738
02:39:30,840 --> 02:39:34,319
can move and attack things, and that's cool, you know,

3739
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:37,319
Like I think the message Okay, let me just go

3740
02:39:37,479 --> 02:39:38,159
get real with the here.

3741
02:39:38,760 --> 02:39:43,000
Speaker 2: I think the message is when you put it that way, like, yes,

3742
02:39:43,159 --> 02:39:45,760
even the smallest, you know, little guy can can make

3743
02:39:45,799 --> 02:39:46,559
big change in a.

3744
02:39:46,559 --> 02:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Big, scary, evil world. Yeah, that works for sure.

3745
02:39:50,639 --> 02:39:54,840
Speaker 2: I wonder if this is one of those things that

3746
02:39:55,159 --> 02:39:57,719
were when we're talking about when my opinions were formed

3747
02:39:57,799 --> 02:40:02,280
and calcified about the Lord of Ring was two thousand

3748
02:40:02,280 --> 02:40:04,760
and two to what two thousand and seven? When did

3749
02:40:04,840 --> 02:40:05,680
Return of the Game come out?

3750
02:40:06,360 --> 02:40:10,280
Speaker 3: And three is just one year apart all three the bank? Yeah,

3751
02:40:10,360 --> 02:40:12,079
just once.

3752
02:40:12,239 --> 02:40:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't think of a span of

3753
02:40:16,079 --> 02:40:19,600
time where I was a bigger asshole than those years.

3754
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:23,760
Speaker 4: Maybe it's probably part of because when you weren't playing

3755
02:40:23,760 --> 02:40:26,120
an asshole, you were playing kiddie games, right.

3756
02:40:26,680 --> 02:40:28,040
Speaker 3: Uh no, I'm not.

3757
02:40:28,079 --> 02:40:31,680
Speaker 4: Playing my Ratchet Jack Kitty shit I played. Yeah, it's that,

3758
02:40:32,159 --> 02:40:33,959
It's just that When was the last time you've seen

3759
02:40:34,000 --> 02:40:35,520
them in the theaters?

3760
02:40:36,319 --> 02:40:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

3761
02:40:36,719 --> 02:40:39,200
Speaker 2: I thought about once and was like fuck this, and

3762
02:40:39,319 --> 02:40:41,319
I just every time it's come up since then, I've

3763
02:40:41,319 --> 02:40:43,760
been like fuck those and I really like I am.

3764
02:40:44,120 --> 02:40:46,399
I feel like I'm a totally different person than I will.

3765
02:40:46,520 --> 02:40:48,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, probably be able to get something out of

3766
02:40:48,520 --> 02:40:51,120
them now. And I don't think you're gonna love it, right.

3767
02:40:51,079 --> 02:40:53,680
Speaker 2: And Natiers in Minnesota, maybe we'll have a fucking trilogy

3768
02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:55,479
night listen.

3769
02:40:55,520 --> 02:40:57,399
Speaker 4: They'll they'll be playing in a theater sometime against you.

3770
02:40:57,399 --> 02:40:58,159
I would love to see.

3771
02:40:58,600 --> 02:41:00,200
Speaker 3: Talking about being in the weeds. There's a part. There

3772
02:41:00,319 --> 02:41:02,559
was a time where I was really really into it,

3773
02:41:02,680 --> 02:41:04,479
like when the movies were coming out, Like I was

3774
02:41:05,079 --> 02:41:06,319
reading The Simmer really.

3775
02:41:06,280 --> 02:41:08,760
Speaker 1: Which I thought I wouldn't get the pictures of you

3776
02:41:08,920 --> 02:41:10,120
dresses Peter Jackson.

3777
02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:12,360
Speaker 3: Going that was that was like my that was a

3778
02:41:12,360 --> 02:41:14,520
little that was kind of like that was me at

3779
02:41:14,559 --> 02:41:16,680
my most in that era was the night we saw

3780
02:41:16,920 --> 02:41:20,000
Return the King on opening day and we were all

3781
02:41:20,120 --> 02:41:21,840
just up and I dressed as Peter Jackson.

3782
02:41:21,920 --> 02:41:24,479
Speaker 1: I was kind of leading every.

3783
02:41:24,319 --> 02:41:27,200
Speaker 2: Picture of you from like high school and stuff like

3784
02:41:27,319 --> 02:41:29,120
it just I'm not kidding.

3785
02:41:29,440 --> 02:41:32,559
Speaker 1: I look at that with deep respect. Yeah, yeah, he's

3786
02:41:32,559 --> 02:41:34,399
got this pride. Yeah.

3787
02:41:34,440 --> 02:41:37,319
Speaker 2: I finding a man with no reservations about who he

3788
02:41:37,479 --> 02:41:39,399
is and knows what he loves and he doesn't care

3789
02:41:39,440 --> 02:41:41,120
what the world things from and that is persistent to

3790
02:41:41,200 --> 02:41:41,600
this day.

3791
02:41:41,920 --> 02:41:43,479
Speaker 1: And I have deep respect for.

3792
02:41:43,760 --> 02:41:46,959
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the rizzing It's funny. Is like Jeff

3793
02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:48,120
in igh school, I wonder if you know, if we

3794
02:41:48,159 --> 02:41:49,440
would have been friends. I don't think we would have

3795
02:41:49,440 --> 02:41:52,440
been enemies or anything, but like, you know, his circles

3796
02:41:52,479 --> 02:41:54,920
were seemed a little intense to what I was doing

3797
02:41:55,000 --> 02:41:55,559
in high school.

3798
02:41:55,559 --> 02:41:56,799
Speaker 4: Man, I would have much been I would have been

3799
02:41:56,840 --> 02:41:58,760
much happier being friends with you than my friends.

3800
02:42:00,040 --> 02:42:01,639
Speaker 3: I think me and Dan would have been a similar

3801
02:42:01,719 --> 02:42:02,719
friend creep in.

3802
02:42:03,360 --> 02:42:05,600
Speaker 2: I would have totally like done my dumb that you

3803
02:42:05,799 --> 02:42:08,639
fight a fantasy, my magic, but like we would have.

3804
02:42:08,680 --> 02:42:09,360
Speaker 1: Hung out all the time.

3805
02:42:09,440 --> 02:42:13,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he had a tummy friends like that. Uh yeah,

3806
02:42:13,479 --> 02:42:15,959
Like look, I liked Star Trek a ton in high school.

3807
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:18,959
That's a ton of material for teasing. That was my

3808
02:42:19,120 --> 02:42:22,120
favorite I've got I liked a lot of that INRD Ship.

3809
02:42:22,559 --> 02:42:24,799
Speaker 2: God you, I really do think at this point, like

3810
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:27,319
maybe I guess I have never really considered it until now,

3811
02:42:27,360 --> 02:42:28,959
but like maybe I should just watch those again.

3812
02:42:29,200 --> 02:42:30,879
Speaker 3: Like I mean, you know, do what you want to do.

3813
02:42:31,079 --> 02:42:35,159
Speaker 4: I think, you know, there's a cool dude sitting in

3814
02:42:35,239 --> 02:42:38,239
the corner of a bar, like wearing a hood, smoking

3815
02:42:38,319 --> 02:42:40,040
a pipe, and everyone's like, what is that gun? He's

3816
02:42:40,079 --> 02:42:47,239
a cool dude, and and uh that is you know,

3817
02:42:47,360 --> 02:42:49,719
he's going to be the hero throughout the three films eventually,

3818
02:42:50,040 --> 02:42:52,280
even though everyone really doing the super hard work are

3819
02:42:52,319 --> 02:42:55,000
the hobbits and they are the emotional core. There are

3820
02:42:55,040 --> 02:42:57,079
plenty of cool dude things happening in that movie.

3821
02:42:57,280 --> 02:42:59,399
Speaker 2: But I but I think I want to push myself

3822
02:42:59,440 --> 02:43:01,879
beyond the zone of like, oh, cool dude, gilling guys,

3823
02:43:01,920 --> 02:43:05,159
you know, yeah, do it for that, but like, yeah,

3824
02:43:05,239 --> 02:43:07,040
maybe expand a little bit there.

3825
02:43:07,200 --> 02:43:09,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I just view them all as Luke Skywalkers.

3826
02:43:09,200 --> 02:43:13,399
Speaker 1: That's honestly. Rocky is the closest brought me to like something.

3827
02:43:13,479 --> 02:43:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeahh god, that was so much fun. When CRE three

3828
02:43:15,959 --> 02:43:18,200
came out, you did that Rocky wheel and I just

3829
02:43:18,760 --> 02:43:21,280
was good. I hope they make another Rocky so we

3830
02:43:21,319 --> 02:43:22,200
could do that again.

3831
02:43:22,280 --> 02:43:24,520
Speaker 2: Well, my next thing is that we didn't talk about

3832
02:43:24,520 --> 02:43:26,760
the movies. I downloaded for the flight to Japan. But

3833
02:43:27,559 --> 02:43:29,799
how's your main how'd your Maine? How'd you make?

3834
02:43:29,920 --> 02:43:31,360
Speaker 1: No epo? Have you heard of this?

3835
02:43:31,719 --> 02:43:31,799
Speaker 2: Oh?

3836
02:43:31,879 --> 02:43:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, the boxing anime?

3837
02:43:33,079 --> 02:43:36,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I remember me and Gersmon does an

3838
02:43:36,200 --> 02:43:39,200
anime panel at that anime con once and we were

3839
02:43:39,239 --> 02:43:41,399
talking about anime and in the same type of conversations.

3840
02:43:41,399 --> 02:43:42,920
Here where's like, here's why I never watched this blah

3841
02:43:42,920 --> 02:43:44,879
blah blah. I liked Rocky, I like blah blah blah.

3842
02:43:45,079 --> 02:43:47,760
And somebody in the crowd literally screamed, like how did.

3843
02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:50,559
Speaker 3: You make no? EPO is literally Rocky and.

3844
02:43:50,719 --> 02:43:53,719
Speaker 1: Like screamed it, and like people have recommended that forever.

3845
02:43:53,920 --> 02:43:55,959
Speaker 2: And it's like, I as much like shit talk anime

3846
02:43:56,000 --> 02:43:58,200
and stuff the few anime things I've seen.

3847
02:43:58,479 --> 02:44:02,399
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. So I downloaded. It's all on Netflix.

3848
02:44:02,479 --> 02:44:05,280
Speaker 2: So I downloaded like so much EPO and was like,

3849
02:44:05,280 --> 02:44:07,639
oh cool because you know what Kene Omega and Takeshta

3850
02:44:07,920 --> 02:44:11,479
that had a recent match and awesome match and they dressed.

3851
02:44:11,239 --> 02:44:13,959
Speaker 1: And like it was a homage to this, like oh wow,

3852
02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:16,479
okay match. So it's like I should watch that.

3853
02:44:16,639 --> 02:44:20,399
Speaker 4: Sports animes apparently are all very good. I've been meaning

3854
02:44:20,440 --> 02:44:20,799
to watch that.

3855
02:44:20,959 --> 02:44:21,159
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3856
02:44:22,280 --> 02:44:23,120
Speaker 1: I like conventions.

3857
02:44:23,159 --> 02:44:26,040
Speaker 3: We should do more. There's there's that Midwest Gaming Classic

3858
02:44:26,159 --> 02:44:29,520
in Milwaukee. It happened, uh yeah April fifth, and I'm

3859
02:44:29,559 --> 02:44:32,079
like it wasn't that. I thought that was fun.

3860
02:44:32,520 --> 02:44:36,040
Speaker 4: Too many games in Philadelphia's apparently a pretty popular one.

3861
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:37,680
Look into that one.

3862
02:44:37,719 --> 02:44:40,319
Speaker 2: Maybe I've always wanted to do the the Midwest gaming

3863
02:44:40,360 --> 02:44:42,559
classical thing, but it's always like WrestleMania Weekend or whatever,

3864
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:43,399
and this year it wasn't.

3865
02:44:43,440 --> 02:44:46,079
Speaker 1: But I was in New York, so it's yeah, sure,

3866
02:44:46,159 --> 02:44:47,200
let's keep that on our radar.

3867
02:44:47,239 --> 02:44:53,760
Speaker 2: I would love to do that. It's like retrosaurs and stuff. Yeah, alright, well, ship,

3868
02:44:54,000 --> 02:44:54,799
that's a podcast.

3869
02:44:54,840 --> 02:44:55,360
Speaker 3: God damn it.

3870
02:44:55,479 --> 02:44:58,360
Speaker 1: I talked to you guys all the time every week,

3871
02:44:58,479 --> 02:45:01,120
and uh, you never run out of talk about it

3872
02:45:01,479 --> 02:45:02,280
was always a pleasure.

3873
02:45:02,399 --> 02:45:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeap, yep, folks, if you're if you're just learning somehow

3874
02:45:06,399 --> 02:45:10,360
of Jeff Grevin, Mike Manatti, let's just plug everything, fellas, please.

3875
02:45:11,000 --> 02:45:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. What do we do, well, Jeff and I We

3876
02:45:13,399 --> 02:45:15,559
do game mess the side. That's kind of our big

3877
02:45:15,719 --> 02:45:18,319
weekly show where we catch up on the news. We

3878
02:45:18,399 --> 02:45:21,559
always play a game of some sort, like the Mount

3879
02:45:21,680 --> 02:45:26,719
Rushmore of of apes and video games or fun things

3880
02:45:26,799 --> 02:45:27,520
like they do that one.

3881
02:45:27,680 --> 02:45:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, George Washington of course.

3882
02:45:30,719 --> 02:45:32,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course. And then we have a Nintendo

3883
02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:36,079
focused podcast called Last of the nintend Dogs. We do

3884
02:45:36,200 --> 02:45:39,399
that on Tuesdays. We have a Patreon for that stuff

3885
02:45:39,440 --> 02:45:42,520
and it gives you some bonuses, like our show about Colombo,

3886
02:45:42,680 --> 02:45:44,920
because we like that in the seventies Detective show a lot.

3887
02:45:45,319 --> 02:45:48,440
That patreon is that patreon dot com slash gay mess.

3888
02:45:48,719 --> 02:45:50,600
We are all on giant bombs you brought up. I

3889
02:45:50,639 --> 02:45:53,799
also do a show with my brothers about Disney. I

3890
02:45:54,239 --> 02:45:56,959
love Disney. I love theme parks, so we talk about

3891
02:45:57,000 --> 02:46:00,440
that on nineties Disney nine zero s Disney.

3892
02:46:00,600 --> 02:46:01,680
Speaker 1: If you have any.

3893
02:46:01,600 --> 02:46:05,479
Speaker 3: Interest in that world, it's a very I love that

3894
02:46:05,680 --> 02:46:08,680
world because even less so than wrestling, I felt like

3895
02:46:08,680 --> 02:46:12,280
there's a big crossover of wrestling and video games. Right,

3896
02:46:13,159 --> 02:46:15,319
Disney is kind of off in its own island. There's

3897
02:46:15,360 --> 02:46:18,360
a bit of it, but it's I like how separate

3898
02:46:18,360 --> 02:46:20,120
it is from the video game fandom.

3899
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:25,159
Speaker 2: Sometimes the podcast you guys do are excellent, And it

3900
02:46:25,479 --> 02:46:27,920
took this long, but there's finally a video game podcast

3901
02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:30,520
I like to listen to, and you two guys. I

3902
02:46:30,639 --> 02:46:32,159
joined in while you guys are doing the live show

3903
02:46:32,200 --> 02:46:35,399
on Tuesdays and Thursdays and excellent, excellent stuff.

3904
02:46:35,479 --> 02:46:37,760
Speaker 3: Well, I really do love the show. I listened to

3905
02:46:37,840 --> 02:46:39,920
this I look forward to it every two weeks.

3906
02:46:39,959 --> 02:46:41,280
Speaker 4: I think it was like a couple weeks ago, like

3907
02:46:41,319 --> 02:46:43,280
Mike's like, oh Mike listens, They're like, oh yeah, and

3908
02:46:43,360 --> 02:46:44,840
I was in my car like, oh yeah, I do.

3909
02:46:46,719 --> 02:46:47,200
Speaker 1: It's great.

3910
02:46:47,840 --> 02:46:50,639
Speaker 3: It's great. So yeah, and it's always fun when we

3911
02:46:50,760 --> 02:46:53,680
get to hop in here. But looking forward to hearing

3912
02:46:53,719 --> 02:46:55,239
from Mike and Mary again soon.

3913
02:46:55,879 --> 02:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely they we will all be on an episode the

3914
02:46:59,200 --> 02:46:59,639
next time.

3915
02:47:00,079 --> 02:47:02,200
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, check us out on Patreon that

3916
02:47:02,319 --> 02:47:06,399
is firescape dot com, slash wait fires Oh yeah, Firescape

3917
02:47:06,399 --> 02:47:06,760
dot com.

3918
02:47:07,239 --> 02:47:09,280
Speaker 1: Usually Mike does this, so this is my first time.

3919
02:47:09,440 --> 02:47:14,000
Speaker 2: Fire Escape dot Com or Patreon dot com slash fire Escape.

3920
02:47:14,559 --> 02:47:16,239
You can join in as an ad free tier. For

3921
02:47:16,280 --> 02:47:19,159
the audio video tier, we've been doing more video stuff

3922
02:47:19,319 --> 02:47:21,239
and Mike and Vinnie from Next Lander have been doing

3923
02:47:21,280 --> 02:47:22,760
a warhammer gimmick over there.

3924
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:23,280
Speaker 1: That's really fun.

3925
02:47:23,719 --> 02:47:23,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

3926
02:47:24,159 --> 02:47:26,479
Speaker 2: And you can also give us a smaller pledge amount

3927
02:47:26,479 --> 02:47:28,319
as a tip jar if you'd like. It goes directly

3928
02:47:28,399 --> 02:47:29,319
to the three of us.

3929
02:47:29,840 --> 02:47:31,959
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah, that's about it.

3930
02:47:32,120 --> 02:47:35,479
Speaker 2: Check out fire Escape on socials, check out Mike and

3931
02:47:35,719 --> 02:47:39,879
Grub on Blue Sky, Twitter, anything in particular.

3932
02:47:39,639 --> 02:47:43,239
Speaker 3: Sky the says Tokoto I'm Tokoto everywhere. No, I'm not

3933
02:47:43,319 --> 02:47:44,520
gonna tell you what that means.

3934
02:47:44,840 --> 02:47:50,680
Speaker 2: Well, Joe he knows, Sojo does actually know. Joe is

3935
02:47:50,760 --> 02:47:53,559
signing it like wrestle con Like, what's Tolkoto mean?

3936
02:47:54,239 --> 02:47:55,680
Speaker 3: Did you hear about the penguin? Dan?

3937
02:47:56,079 --> 02:47:56,360
Speaker 1: What's that?

3938
02:47:57,399 --> 02:47:59,920
Speaker 3: Somebody? Uh so a listener like is working at a

3939
02:48:00,079 --> 02:48:01,719
zoo or something and they're trying to you have to

3940
02:48:01,840 --> 02:48:04,840
name a baby penguin, and he floated out Tolkoto and

3941
02:48:04,879 --> 02:48:07,760
apparently people like it. So maybe a penguin's gonna mean

3942
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:09,319
named Tolkota.

3943
02:48:08,920 --> 02:48:10,799
Speaker 2: As long as they don't know the context. I think

3944
02:48:10,840 --> 02:48:12,360
that sounds like a great penguin name.

3945
02:48:12,760 --> 02:48:15,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I'll tell you what. I'm gonna go

3946
02:48:15,200 --> 02:48:15,920
visit this penguin.

3947
02:48:15,959 --> 02:48:18,879
Speaker 1: If that happened, you are a picture with the Tolkota penguin.

3948
02:48:19,799 --> 02:48:20,280
Speaker 3: My son.

3949
02:48:22,799 --> 02:48:27,600
Speaker 4: The family name lives on, all right, Grubb.

3950
02:48:27,360 --> 02:48:29,920
Speaker 2: And Mitch, thank you so much for next and thank

3951
02:48:29,959 --> 02:48:32,200
You's a pleasure, and thanks everyone for listening.

3952
02:48:32,719 --> 02:48:35,600
Speaker 1: Uh, we will see you all in a couple of weeks.

3953
02:48:36,239 --> 02:48:36,719
Bye bye