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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Gerdaban here right now with Jack Mlutty.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack, Tony, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 3>Fantastic?

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<v Speaker 1>We have not spent a lot of time you and

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<v Speaker 1>I talking about Legend BA, and that is what the

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<v Speaker 1>show is about. Tom and I have done a series

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<v Speaker 1>of expectations shows on various players, So now I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about your expectations for Legend BA,

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<v Speaker 1>my expectations for Legend BA, the expectations from inside the program, and.

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<v Speaker 3>How realistic those are.

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<v Speaker 1>Because what I was told back in before spring ball

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<v Speaker 1>like six to eight touches for Legend Bay and that

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<v Speaker 1>they're very serious about that. I don't know where those

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna come from, because I know they want to

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<v Speaker 1>do some kickoff return as well. But you might get

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<v Speaker 1>one of those a game, and then you might get

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<v Speaker 1>a catch. So you're talking five or six carries a game,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what Isaiah West averaged last year when he

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<v Speaker 1>was in So.

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<v Speaker 3>Is six to eight touches possible?

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<v Speaker 2>I when I hear six to eight touches, like immediately

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<v Speaker 2>the number sounds like that's not that much, But then

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<v Speaker 2>when you really think about.

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<v Speaker 3>It and you think about the limited.

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<v Speaker 2>Amount of plays they're running, even sixty three plays a game,

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<v Speaker 2>half of those. I mean, it's just I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's gonna be something that is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>reasonable with this offense and the number of weapons. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's based on how I feel about where he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the offense this year, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's totally possible that he could end up

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<v Speaker 2>kind of eating into one of those starting running backs carries,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's not where I have him right now. I have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously Bo and Isaiah at the top, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I got Jakobe. Kind of is that that third

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<v Speaker 2>guy getting some carries as well? And if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 2>where does Legend get all those carries?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Total possibility that he blows everybody away as a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as a standard running back taking carries, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>flies right up to the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know if that's if.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm confident enough to say I think

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to see six to eight at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>And really, you say, it does not sound like much.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Carnell tape, right, that's a productive wide receiver. Six

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<v Speaker 1>to eight touches a game, and so when you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>that on a true freshman, even as a running back,

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<v Speaker 1>that's still a significant number of touches. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of who are you taking those touches from. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it was explained to me is like,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not part of the running back battle. His situation

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<v Speaker 1>is already solidified, Like it's almost not worrying about where

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<v Speaker 1>he's taking touches from. It's like who's taking his touches

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<v Speaker 1>because these six to eight are happening and then everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else is gonna have to deal with it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is with running backs, five of those touches could

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<v Speaker 1>get no yards, and then it's like, well, why do

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<v Speaker 1>you keep giving this guy the ball? He's getting tackled

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<v Speaker 1>in the backfield, and then one touch goes for seventy

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<v Speaker 1>yards and you're like, why are you not giving this

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<v Speaker 1>guy the ball more? Yeah, And so that's the fun

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<v Speaker 1>and the give and to take. I think the legend

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<v Speaker 1>bay this year, but I do agree he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a legitimate running back. He's not just some

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<v Speaker 1>as urban Myrier used to say, a hood ornament, where

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<v Speaker 1>he's just out there trying to distract or be a decoy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's plenty of usage for him. And as

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Day said on Wednesday, he's he's also learning receiver

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. We saw that in the spring where

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<v Speaker 1>he takes some takes some reps there. I I know

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<v Speaker 1>we're all looking forward to seeing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I just do.

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<v Speaker 1>You think when they say six to eight, could it

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<v Speaker 1>be more like is six to eight is that the baseline?

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<v Speaker 3>And it won't go below that?

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<v Speaker 4>Assuming he's good, Assuming he's good, six to eight's got

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<v Speaker 4>to be the base, like, assuming he reaches what we

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<v Speaker 4>think he's capable of, the way we've heard Ryan Day

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<v Speaker 4>talk about him, the way we've heard Carlos Laughlin talk

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<v Speaker 4>about him is kind of different, right, It's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit different.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a different tone. You can't deny that.

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<v Speaker 2>And if he's getting six to eight touches and those

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<v Speaker 2>are going as expected, which I mean it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 3>And Ryan Day said it again here a to media

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<v Speaker 3>days yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>When asked a bottom just the tone in which he

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, yeah, he can do it was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>of course you can in.

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<v Speaker 3>The size Tony.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen him put on some masks quick, some good

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<v Speaker 2>mask real quick. I mean, if he's actually producing in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that we think he might be able to,

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<v Speaker 2>then six to eight has to be the baseline. Because

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<v Speaker 2>we sit here and we talk about these when we've

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<v Speaker 2>heard it all off season, Tony. People aren't quite happy

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<v Speaker 2>with the running backs last year, that right there, what

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<v Speaker 2>you saw wasn't good enough. And we just listened to

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Day yesterday say this is the room I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the room that I'll be focused on as

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<v Speaker 2>we go into the preseason.

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<v Speaker 3>They want more.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're getting a repeat of what you got

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<v Speaker 2>last year, and Legend comes in and he's doing what

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<v Speaker 2>we think he might be capable of, then six D

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<v Speaker 2>eight has to be the baseline.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and we saw Carlos Locklin his up. The chart

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<v Speaker 1>moves up and down based on production and quickly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't wait too long and the opportunity, the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>will be there for legendiate because they're gonna carve out

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<v Speaker 1>something for him, especially in that game one, unless they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hold him and it's like spring him on Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think you should do that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let him. Your first game is at Austin dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with that no at night. No, you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>him some carries in that first game against Paul State

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<v Speaker 1>and get that experience and get that first time or

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<v Speaker 1>out of him. But we saw Bo Jackson didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>against Texas last year, so I wouldn't be shocked if

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<v Speaker 1>Legend doesn't do it. But there will be a some

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<v Speaker 1>times where he's out there and he's not getting the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>So again there's also snaps he's taking from somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna be out there to pass block. We

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<v Speaker 1>know that when he's out there to you know, whether

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<v Speaker 1>he's out in motion and flexed out, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>draw some attention just because it's like, why is he

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<v Speaker 1>out there? He's gonna they're gonna do something there, which

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<v Speaker 1>maybe opens things up for other people. Hedge putter, how

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<v Speaker 1>often they can use him without using him? And is

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<v Speaker 1>it too early for him to have this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>gravity where the defense knows watch that guy, because right

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<v Speaker 1>now he's not there yet. He's just I mean, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>knows him because the former quarterback from Texas, so he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't built that yet. Maybe that comes after the Texas

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<v Speaker 1>game or because of the Texas game.

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<v Speaker 2>It just might and they well, they got into his

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<v Speaker 2>recruitment real lay right at the end there they started

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<v Speaker 2>trying to trying to make a push.

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<v Speaker 3>So they certainly know him. They know all about what

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<v Speaker 3>he's about.

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<v Speaker 2>They know that he's got the wild news and the

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<v Speaker 2>magic or whatever however Locke described or what he's as

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<v Speaker 2>a magician or whatever he said. But you know when

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about Legend in this, uh, you know him

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<v Speaker 2>having these touches, these potentially like these are his and everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, depending on what he does, he might get more,

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<v Speaker 2>but nobody's just gonna eat into his. This almost feels

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<v Speaker 2>like when you bring in Jakobe Jackson, like what's his role? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is like I really feel like he's a

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<v Speaker 2>in the similar mold to Isaiah and bow right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>those three are very similar. And you bring him in

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<v Speaker 2>and now you've got Jacoby and Legend both kind of

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<v Speaker 2>competing for what I think are these third running back steps,

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<v Speaker 2>and this situation is just like I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think Jacoby's also got some juice too. He does,

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<v Speaker 2>and the potential of Legend not playing well early, making

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<v Speaker 2>a dumb mistake early also exists, And all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>now we're looking at Okay, we're waiting till the next

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<v Speaker 2>half of the season to get those six days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you see a fumble against Paul State, he

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<v Speaker 1>might have six to eight touches in the year after

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<v Speaker 1>that because he will not see the field against Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's part of dealing with the freshman. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you on Jacoby Jackson because it's like he was

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<v Speaker 1>very good in the spring.

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<v Speaker 3>He did some things.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never been great anywhere, although he did rush for

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<v Speaker 1>our hundred yards against Texas in twenty twenty four. He's

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as the replacement for CJ. Donaldson's but they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need that guy. This year they needed they needed a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger back. Last year they've got Isaiah West bo Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>are bigger in Jacoby Jackson. He's a third bigger type back.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's I think his value is the experience because

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<v Speaker 1>without him, you've got two sophomores, a freshman, a retro

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<v Speaker 1>freshman too true freshman, and a retrip freshman two sophomore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the room aspect of it being able

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<v Speaker 1>to come in at any point if needed, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think there's any way that Carlos Laughlin

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<v Speaker 1>is holding Legend back because of Jacoby Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that's gonna hold Legend back is Legend. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely agree with that. There's no way that we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see Jacoby Jackson just like all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We're on an even playing field.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever wins with like Legend this is this is his

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<v Speaker 2>gig in that role, and he's gonna feaster famine based

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<v Speaker 2>on what he does.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as I'm much, you can play.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I think, you know, Jacoby's biggest role for

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<v Speaker 2>me is if there's an injury, I think you got

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that's really solid who can do what those

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<v Speaker 2>guys do, and that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got running backs with injury histories they do

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<v Speaker 1>they do, and we've had quite a few seasons recently

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<v Speaker 1>with injury history.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it was a great move.

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<v Speaker 2>But as far as Legend six to eight, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that will end up potentially being the baseline in

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<v Speaker 2>the second half of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't know if I can commit to saying

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<v Speaker 3>that in.

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<v Speaker 2>The first half, yeah, but I do think he will

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<v Speaker 2>perform really great. Like I'm looking really really looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to give you some some numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me over under fifty nine carries, three and

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<v Speaker 1>ten yards. That's that's Isaiah West's numbers last year. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, do you uh I would go I may

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<v Speaker 1>go under the carries and over the yards, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I really yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Here's where I'm gonna go over because the situation

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<v Speaker 2>entering the season last year was two different ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>the two better backs Bow and Isaiah, And had those

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<v Speaker 2>guys not been in the picture and it was Bo

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<v Speaker 2>and Isaiah in the same situation, I think Isaiah would

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<v Speaker 2>have gone over that considerably obviously. So I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>over for both through legend. Definitely for the yards and

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<v Speaker 2>way definitely over.

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<v Speaker 3>On the two touchdowns. Oh yeah, oh yes, over on

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<v Speaker 3>the two catches.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, over on the zero kickoff returns, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you guys think? Go ahead and throw

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<v Speaker 1>your comments. Is Juck crazy about all of these overs?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he way out of his out of his depth

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<v Speaker 1>on this legend based stuff, even though all we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is repeating stuff we've been hearing about legend Bay from

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<v Speaker 1>the people who would know. So go ahead it thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 4>It happen, it's time.

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<v Speaker 3>What about using through a way?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't no one tell me I wish you'd never been

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<v Speaker 4>nothing to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Where down.

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<v Speaker 2>Where my father?

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<v Speaker 4>If you can tell me that's a moot's all right?

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<v Speaker 3>We could steal currently that