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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an undeniable interest in UFOs, all things alien

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<v Speaker 2>first contact. If we have contact going on right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've had guys like av Lobe talking about

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<v Speaker 2>probes and he's getting millions of dollars to go and

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<v Speaker 2>actually research down probes that have melted in our atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about. I mean, he was just in recently

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the probes off of the New Guinea Islands

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<v Speaker 2>in the Pacific that he dredged up and discovered some

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<v Speaker 2>very unusual metals and alloys that would make up these probes,

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<v Speaker 2>things that you wouldn't typically see in an asteroid. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he is somebody who is actually part of many,

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<v Speaker 2>many conferences speaking on the academic side of alien contact,

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<v Speaker 2>alien research, and very very much disclosing and very transparent

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<v Speaker 2>about what he is experiencing and what he's finding. But

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<v Speaker 2>as a past program director, I've had the pleasure of

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<v Speaker 2>meeting people and working with people like Stanton Freeman, David Jacobs,

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<v Speaker 2>Bud Hopkins. Hopkins who is very important when it came

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<v Speaker 2>to the abduction experience. You had Whitley Streeber on the program,

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<v Speaker 2>and also people like John mac and these are all

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<v Speaker 2>research academic researchers who are really looking hard and the

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<v Speaker 2>evidence behind contact. These are et types that are landing

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<v Speaker 2>on our planet, that are interacting with people and in

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<v Speaker 2>many cases leaving information where they came from, the state

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<v Speaker 2>of our own planet, what the universe is all about,

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<v Speaker 2>and in some cases the neighboring planets that have and

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<v Speaker 2>have sustained and are sustaining life. Hey, this is Cliff

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<v Speaker 2>your host of Destiny, and today the topic is communicating

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<v Speaker 2>with aliens. And this is something I've been fascinating with

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<v Speaker 2>for many, many years, to the point where when I

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<v Speaker 2>first started Destiny and also the other podcasts Earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 2>and Earth Ancients Special Special Edition in the Archives, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do a podcast on speaking with aliens and

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<v Speaker 2>having aliens communicate. Now, we don't, we don't have that

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<v Speaker 2>level of evolution yet. I don't think as a species

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<v Speaker 2>we are ready for full blown contact. But what we

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<v Speaker 2>are ready for our bits and pieces of it. And

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and this has been going on for probably

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<v Speaker 2>a good twenty plus years, there's a lot of channel data.

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<v Speaker 2>These are people who go into a altered consciousness and

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<v Speaker 2>they allow space beings to come and connect with us

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<v Speaker 2>and speak to us, and people can ask questions of

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<v Speaker 2>these people. Most notably, the most noted channel of an

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<v Speaker 2>alien is darryl Anka, channeling the being known as Bashar

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<v Speaker 2>and Bashar I think I can't remember what planet he's from,

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<v Speaker 2>but this guy has been talking to people for God

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<v Speaker 2>for decades, and you gotta wonder, is this really valid material? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently some of the material has been analyzed by scientists

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<v Speaker 2>and it is shown to be valid, and we got

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<v Speaker 2>to wonder, you know, those of us who are skeptical, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>is this something that is from the mind of darryl Anka,

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<v Speaker 2>the channel of this entity, this off world being named Bashar,

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it Bashar from another planet communicating through daryld.

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<v Speaker 2>I have had a number of channeled presenters at conferences.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really had it on to Destiny, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I should, the reason being that I'm still on

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<v Speaker 2>the fence about it and it's been something that I've

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<v Speaker 2>studied and been a part of for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I need to maybe open the valve a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and let one or two people come in and speak.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to think about that. But today's program

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<v Speaker 2>is on communicating with ets, and I felt that in

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<v Speaker 2>this time of our lives and we would be communicating

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<v Speaker 2>with off world types in some form of another, either

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<v Speaker 2>through radio astronomy, through some form of communication devices. And

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<v Speaker 2>why this this is not happen is probably we're just

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<v Speaker 2>not ready for it. And we've talked about this off

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<v Speaker 2>and on that our military is to shoot first, ask

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<v Speaker 2>questions later kind of mentality, and who wants to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that kind of human being that's going to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>at you because they're afraid of you. We may have

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<v Speaker 2>to have and this has been going on independent contexts

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<v Speaker 2>for people from different parts of the world are contacted,

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<v Speaker 2>are in some cases abducted, taken into craft and met

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<v Speaker 2>with by various beings from different plants. Now, there are

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<v Speaker 2>a number of books out there that are that have

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<v Speaker 2>described face to face contact with alien types, alien species,

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<v Speaker 2>and in some cases people are taken to their planet.

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<v Speaker 2>They have the technology where if it's many lightly years away,

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<v Speaker 2>it's they go through wormholes or whatever and they're there

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<v Speaker 2>within an hour or two. And people have written about

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<v Speaker 2>their experience on these planets. But I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>you a sense of this program today because it's very

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<v Speaker 2>important to me that we can have some form of

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<v Speaker 2>contact with the aliens, with the species that meets with us.

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<v Speaker 2>This eventuality, and it may be going on right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It may be going on with our Department of Defense,

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<v Speaker 2>It could be going on with the CIA, could be

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<v Speaker 2>going on with Russians and other countries around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know about it. We don't know about it

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<v Speaker 2>because people still are would panic on something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>they would be freaked out.

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know how people will react. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>play a short excerpt from darryl Anka channeling Boschard, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a segment where he's talking about open contact

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<v Speaker 2>with ets. Let's have a quick listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take a dating of this day of your time.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you all all right? All right, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We thank you for the co creation of this interaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Once again, this is the beginning of the next phase

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<v Speaker 3>of open contact for your planet. We thank you for participating.

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<v Speaker 3>At this stage. We are going to talk about some

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<v Speaker 3>of the different ways in which open contact may begin

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<v Speaker 3>to occur on your world. We are going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the idea of what you can do to accelerate

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<v Speaker 3>this for your own experience. We are going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the idea of what it means for your planet

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<v Speaker 3>to experience the beginning stages of contact. Now, first and

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<v Speaker 3>for most, we are going to consolidate some of the

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<v Speaker 3>information we have been sharing with you for the last

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<v Speaker 3>forty of your years. For forty years is the cycle

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<v Speaker 3>of humanity, the amount of time that it usually takes

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<v Speaker 3>for your society to go through one complete transformation from

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<v Speaker 3>one thing to another. So here we are at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of one cycle and the beginning of the next.

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<v Speaker 3>We have for quite some time explained that the reason

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<v Speaker 3>that the language coming through the channel often translates to

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<v Speaker 3>the word we instead of I is because I am

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<v Speaker 3>connected telempathically to many other beings, and therefore, in the

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<v Speaker 3>flow of the information that is accessed and comes through,

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<v Speaker 3>it is sometimes automatic for the channel's consciousness to simply

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<v Speaker 3>interpret the collection of individuals in the plural form of we,

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<v Speaker 3>since we are all participating and paying attention to what

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<v Speaker 3>is going on on your planet. The idea is I am,

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<v Speaker 3>and we are representative of a much larger group than

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<v Speaker 3>many of you may imagine. This group contains not only

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<v Speaker 3>other extraterrestrial beings, but spirit, guides, soul, families, angelic beings,

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<v Speaker 3>interdimensional forms of consciousness, and so on. There are literally

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<v Speaker 3>thousands upon thousands upon thousands of beings involved in these transmissions,

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<v Speaker 3>thousands upon thousands of beings involved in different things going

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<v Speaker 3>on on your planet, watching, observing, and in many ways participating.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard participation is about to become more physical.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen other tapes of Bashard, and it's funny. When

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<v Speaker 2>the energy comes through him, he kind of gets into

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<v Speaker 2>a little convulsion, short many second convulsion, and then this

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<v Speaker 2>entity known as Bashard the alien comes through and starts speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unique material, it really is. And I am, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said before, I'm kind of on the fence about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but we really need to have as much data as

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<v Speaker 2>we can about off world types, and this is just

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<v Speaker 2>another avenue. It's not what I really want. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see face to face. I mean, I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to do a program that had different alien species who

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<v Speaker 2>can communicate with us, talking about their experience, about their history,

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<v Speaker 2>about their interactions with other species and the human species.

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<v Speaker 2>So today's program features a sensitive someone who works with

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<v Speaker 2>remote viewing and has worked with some of the top

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<v Speaker 2>people in the UFO alien abduction field. So today's program

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<v Speaker 2>is how to Talk to an Alien and my guest

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<v Speaker 2>is Nancy do terror. Hey, if you ever thought about

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<v Speaker 2>an exotic tour, think about Earth Ancients tours. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a series of tours. Every year. We have our final

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<v Speaker 2>tour that's finally out. It's our Sacred Temples of Guatemala

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<v Speaker 2>December one through the twelfth. Let me tell you about this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I love going to Mexico, but it's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much hands off on climbing, on interacting with the temples

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<v Speaker 2>and the pyramids. I love pyramids. The other thing that

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<v Speaker 2>the Mexican government has reduced and in many cases eliminated

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<v Speaker 2>is interacting with shaman and mayan. Shaman will open the

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<v Speaker 2>energetic fields of a archaeological park, making it very much

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<v Speaker 2>more accessible. In Guatemala, you can actually climb the pyramids,

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<v Speaker 2>you can actually walk and sit and meditate on the temples,

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<v Speaker 2>and the local shaman, the maya and Shama shaman are

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<v Speaker 2>an integral part of the tour. Join us for this

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<v Speaker 2>once in a lifetime tour in the region of Guatemala.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be visiting Tikal and the famous Lost World Pyramid.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the pyramid that John Burke, the scientist tested

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<v Speaker 2>for energy fields and it actually throughout the day pulses

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<v Speaker 2>emissions to lric energy up and out into the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be able to interact with that pyramid. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>able to interact at to call and a number of

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<v Speaker 2>other noted Mayan ruins. For all the details and to register,

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<v Speaker 2>go to earthanacients dot com forward slash tours. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see the full like tenerary. If you have any questions

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<v Speaker 2>that also me an email, send it to Earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 2>the number four the letter you at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Check this out. This is a rare opportunity to really

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<v Speaker 2>interact with pyramids, interact with the cultures, and really get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of the ancient past and the energetics that

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<v Speaker 2>were part of the Mayan culture. Again, for more information,

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<v Speaker 2>go to Earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not to be missed. The topic of aliens has

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<v Speaker 2>always fascinated me. If many of you know, I've used

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<v Speaker 2>to be the program director for Whole Life Expo and

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<v Speaker 2>I had a whole track of people like John Mack

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<v Speaker 2>and Whittie Streeber and David Jacob and one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite regulars was a guy named Bud Hopkins, who was

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<v Speaker 2>chronicling the abduction phenomenon with great detail, and every time

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<v Speaker 2>he came on the show, it was something new, some

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<v Speaker 2>other abductee who has probed medically but also left with

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<v Speaker 2>some information about the aliens that were interacting with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And our theme today is how to Talk to an

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<v Speaker 2>Alien And my guest today is Nancy Duterire and she

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<v Speaker 2>wrote this book a few years ago, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you, I've been trying to get a hold

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<v Speaker 2>of Nancy for a few years because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this and the material is so excellent because look,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to communicating with an alien species, another race,

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<v Speaker 2>it's critical that they understand our intentions, where we're coming from,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the details. So I'm really happy to have

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy on the program. She's also known as the Skeptical Psychic.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a securitist litigation attorney. She's been on Coast to

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<v Speaker 2>Coast with George Nori a number of different times and

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<v Speaker 2>other podcasts. She wrote a couple of other books, including

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<v Speaker 2>Psychic Intuition Everything You Ever Wanted to Ask But We're

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to know there might be another book in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's got a website that we'll talk about later.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason I'm having Nancy on the program is

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<v Speaker 2>that this book is excellent. And by the way, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to get a copy of it because she covers

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ground in it and it's a great read. So, Nancy,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. What a beautiful introduction. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. I have to ask you, you're very,

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<v Speaker 2>very intuitive, but you're also and I didn't mention this,

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<v Speaker 2>you spent some time as a remote viewer. Were you

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<v Speaker 2>trained at an institute or did you do the targ

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<v Speaker 2>program at SRI back in the late eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I'm old, but I'm not quite that old. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so no, but I was. Ingo Swan was my mentor

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew him for about ten years before he passed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I trained into advanced CRV controlled remote viewing with

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<v Speaker 1>I think is fantastic. I'm also trained in Associate of

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<v Speaker 1>Remote viewing Marty Rosenblat with his supplied pre Cognitive project,

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<v Speaker 1>I away get her name backwards. She's fabulous. Did extended

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<v Speaker 1>remote viewing with her. So I've done all of those,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I've spent the last twelve years. What I

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<v Speaker 1>so I created something called TSP. So I've been teaching

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<v Speaker 1>TSP to students all over the world for the last

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years. Oh interesting, Yeah, and well I'm literally right

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<v Speaker 1>now as we sort of speak. I've worked for the

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<v Speaker 1>last three years on creating a type of TSP remote

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<v Speaker 1>viewing for autistics neurodivergence, and so I am now I'm current.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm launching it this week actually, so, and it's involved

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<v Speaker 1>sort of rearranging a lot of concepts in order to

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<v Speaker 2>Why autistic people, I mean that would be an interesting challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>But they are accessing unique parts of the brain. Do

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<v Speaker 2>they have more accurate findings? Of course, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>give them a target right and longitude longitude longitude right

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<v Speaker 2>longitude latitude. There we go, and then are they more

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<v Speaker 2>adapt at certain targets or how does that work?

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<v Speaker 1>If to generalize autistics have usually incredible intuitive capacities and

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<v Speaker 1>psychic capacities. But because they have problems communicating, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, they can't communicate them or they are

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<v Speaker 1>disregarded or ignored or whatever, and they don't get channeled

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<v Speaker 1>into the same kind of pathways that you know in

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<v Speaker 1>remote viewing you use remotely it's a tool. So and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why do that now, because what's happened. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back to the beginning of the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 1>Right after that it turned into well, okay, it's they're

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<v Speaker 1>not quite schizophrenic, but there's only children who are autistic,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it turned into well, you know, there were

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<v Speaker 1>very limited definitions, and right now the latest DSM is saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is the autistic autistic spectrum disorder. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened is, in a very little amount of time,

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of decades, you have you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>out of you know, two or three thousand people being

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<v Speaker 1>autistic to right now it's one out of thirty. And

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<v Speaker 1>for the children who will be born this year, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in their population, it'll be one out of two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, God, that many.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Yeah, exactly. So I think to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do this and to offer this as a particular skill

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<v Speaker 1>because it is a form of communication two people who

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<v Speaker 1>have that different perspective, different way of looking at things

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<v Speaker 1>and communicating with things, I think it's really important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, amazing, fantastic. I have heard of different groups and

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<v Speaker 2>I can't name the specific individuals within those groups who

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<v Speaker 2>are doing remote viewing. And I think I remember a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago there was a group that was

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<v Speaker 2>targeting Mars and actually finding live beings underground. But also

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<v Speaker 2>they went back a few thousand or maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>tens of thousands of years when Mars had an atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 2>functional atmosphere, and they actually found beings very much like us.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you done anything like that where you were able

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<v Speaker 2>to target and was that kind of a lead into

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<v Speaker 2>the book when you found if you did find aliens

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<v Speaker 2>in their functions?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the short answer is no. When I first

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<v Speaker 1>spoke with NGO, he was very pleased with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he had done I think it was the Moon

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<v Speaker 1>and Jupiter and he had done that. He didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>feedback for seven years on it, but he finally did

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<v Speaker 1>and it turned out that I think there were actually

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<v Speaker 1>icy rings around Jupiter, and it was you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his material was confirmed. And then the remote

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<v Speaker 1>viewing community finally started to get larger and larger, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody sort of thought that that and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>started in Stargate also with Ed Dames getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit as the the guy who was giving the targets.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a little bit crazy with his targets, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then he went off off planet with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. He that bothered a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the remote remote viewers at the time because they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how how are you supposed to get feedback? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nice. Anybody can make up anything. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>always I'm a really creative person. I could say anything

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<v Speaker 1>that would make a whole lot of sense. But is

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<v Speaker 1>it real? I don't know. So there was that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there were you know, as the remote viewers you

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<v Speaker 1>get into like the third and fourth generation remote viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>they started to splinter off and it became like a

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<v Speaker 1>really sexy thing to like, oh, let's go let's view

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<v Speaker 1>the extraterrestrials, let's view the the you know, planets out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's see what we could see, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where they're getting feedback. I think what you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about is something I actually spoke about in to the

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<v Speaker 1>International UFO Congress quite a while ago, probably at least

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago. Joe mcmonagau was tasked at one point

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<v Speaker 1>to view mores a million years ago, and so yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he did see you know, beings undergrounds and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was sort of pyramid like chambers, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was destruction. There was a group that apparently had

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<v Speaker 1>left the planet before total nuclear disaster. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of Now. What was interesting is that my my

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<v Speaker 1>friend and colleague Tom McNair, who finally sort of I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the remote viewing closet so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>and has you know, he's done his circuits around the country,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also had done that, say, he'd been tasked

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<v Speaker 1>with with the same you know, view what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>on Mars million years ago, and his data was almost

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's virtually identical to Joe's. Now, once you

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<v Speaker 1>start getting that, I think then it starts at least

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<v Speaker 1>getting interesting. Even though you don't have a direct confirmation.

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<v Speaker 1>We may be getting some confirmations right now because there

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy I forget his name who just recently

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<v Speaker 1>I just read about this like a week ago, who

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<v Speaker 1>is now scientifically determining that Mars was indeed the site

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<v Speaker 1>of some type of a real bad nuclear disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, I read about that. He published somewhere an

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<v Speaker 2>article about it. Yeah, I saw that on Facebook. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of confirmed John Brandenburg's Who's doctor Brandenburg? Who

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<v Speaker 2>his theory of a nuclear destruction and the xeon gas

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<v Speaker 2>molecule that's left that's they're determining. Oh yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>another scientist. I'm sorry, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you're You're right on track. So so, but

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<v Speaker 1>my point is that, you know, it's it's okay to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, spend some time viewing other planets and doing

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But for me, I am much

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<v Speaker 1>more focused in what I do in trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>people get much more mediate answers through you know, confirmation

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<v Speaker 1>and feedbacks right on what I'm viewing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, talk a little bit about the opening of

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<v Speaker 2>your book. Was it the and I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 2>this here, I ever been in the field for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I knew the term exo linguistics, but communicating

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<v Speaker 2>with off world types. I call them off world types

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't like the word alien. Extraterrestrials just bothers

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<v Speaker 2>me too. You know, it's almost like they're here already,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just call them off world because they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>started from here. But was the exo linguistics kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an interest of yours and that kind of led into

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<v Speaker 2>the writing of this book on how to communicate with

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so just real quick, I have throughout my entire

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<v Speaker 1>career because I'm probably just an irritant to people, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have made a point. I know that when I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a psychic, I'm a sensitive because it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the word psychic, okay, because it has sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a bad, you know, fortune teller type of connotation. What

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<v Speaker 1>I have attempted to desensitize people to the word psychic

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<v Speaker 1>in a good way, so I'm not afraid of using

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<v Speaker 1>that same way. People don't like to say ghosts because oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just you know, you're making fun of the spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really a spirit. Okay, yeah, they's spirit, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>also ghosts. I'm okay with a ghost yeah, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't like I mean, across the board,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it, almost every term that's been developed in

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<v Speaker 1>the UFO field. In fact, it's not even UFO anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It's u AP, I know. So you know, and and

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<v Speaker 1>people don't like aliens. I was very well aware of

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<v Speaker 1>that when I wrote the book how to Talk to

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<v Speaker 1>an Alien Again. You know, I tell people, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my husband's an alien. He's from France, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay with me. I don't mind. Alien just literally

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<v Speaker 1>means means a stranger, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's all I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just say, same thing with contactee, experiencer, abductee. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go through the whole litany of all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff too. So I just wanted to get that straight first. So, now,

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<v Speaker 1>what was the rest of the question there?

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<v Speaker 2>So, was it the linguistics side of it that you

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<v Speaker 2>had read about that kind of launched your thoughts behind

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<v Speaker 2>this book? And because we're going to get into the details,

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<v Speaker 2>heur in a second. But I'm just wanting to get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of what ignited your interest in because writing

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<v Speaker 2>a book's not a simple thing. It takes time and

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<v Speaker 2>energy and research. But what was the motivation to write

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<v Speaker 2>the book.

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<v Speaker 1>The motivation was that, And it's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a long story if you don't mind, but I went

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<v Speaker 1>one night to This was in twenty eleven, in June

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty eleven, when my then nineteen year old daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>we went out to go see the movies locally in

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. So we went to Parsepany to our local

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<v Speaker 1>was late at night, it was somewhere, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a weeknight or something. And it's located in a

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<v Speaker 1>watched Midnight in Paris Woodie Ollan's Midnight in Paris, which

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<v Speaker 1>is about going backwards in time. We get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the movie theater and by the way, there was nobody

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<v Speaker 1>in the theater with us. We get out of there,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody in the entire building. Nobody, not even employees.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nothing. It was very weird. We walked out

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<v Speaker 1>She said, what's that? And I saw twenty or thirty

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<v Speaker 1>orange lights sitting just sitting in the sky, and I thought, well,

419
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe something's reflecting off of clouds. I don't know. I

420
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.599
<v Speaker 1>looked all over the place, no, and eventually it became

421
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.079
<v Speaker 1>very clear. You could see the outline of a football

422
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 1>field sized boomerang shaped craft covered in orange lights, simply sitting.

423
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't directly above us, it was slightly in a

424
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<v Speaker 1>diagonal five hundred and two thousand feet up in the air.

425
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<v Speaker 1>And eventually a giant white orb came off of one

426
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of the wings my fifteen twenty feet in diameter by

427
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>my estimation, circled around like it was looking for something.

428
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 1>When behind the craft came over telescoped, closed, gone, hoof

429
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<v Speaker 1>like that, and then eventually the entire craft cloaked or

430
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>de materialized in three phases. Wow, And my daughter was terrified.

431
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I thought it was just the strangest thing

432
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<v Speaker 1>I'd ever seen in the entire world. I had to

433
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<v Speaker 1>know what that was. And then for the next it

434
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 1>was roughly two years. Every time my daughter and I

435
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>would get on the phone together. She was in Brooklyn,

436
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 1>I was in a Jersey, didn't matter if it was

437
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 1>cell phone's, landlines, whatever. We would be talking and there

438
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>would be an interruption by the strangest electronic sounding, booming

439
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.279
<v Speaker 1>voice I have ever heard, speaking an unknown language. And

440
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good with language. I know a bunch, and

441
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 1>I can sort of work my way around others. And

442
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.559
<v Speaker 1>we could no longer hear each other, but we could

443
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>both hear this voice, and it would speak to us,

444
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and it seemed to speak in phrases or sentences hard

445
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 1>to tell. It was sounded like it was coming through

446
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.079
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of major distortion. And this was not

447
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm familiar with, you know, a voice when you do distortion,

448
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 1>distortion on a mechanical on a voice that it wasn't this,

449
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>as far as I know, it certainly wasn't this. It

450
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>was kind of a spooky sounding voice. It would talk

451
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 1>one time, it said my daughter's name, and then it

452
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>would hang up both of us simultaneously, and then neither

453
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of us would be able to call each other back

454
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>for five to ten minutes.

455
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

456
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And eventually it started to happen between her and some

457
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 1>of the phone calls with some of her friends, and

458
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it happened between me and some of my clients, one

459
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of them who heard it, And of course we couldn't

460
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 1>call each other back. So she emails me. She's a

461
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>well known psychotherapist, and she said, what the hell was that?

462
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 1>And whatever the hell that was, that was not of

463
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>this earth. It was really bizarre. So me, being sort

464
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of naturally curious and analytical and all that kind of stuff, well,

465
00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>what was that and why was that? And clearly, I

466
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>mean it was obvious it was related to what we

467
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>had seen. And I will tell you that. Several years later,

468
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I was awoken in the middle of the night. I'm

469
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a light sleeper, but I was woken up like that

470
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>because telepathically I heard that voice, and I will I

471
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>would recognize that voice anywhere. And I woke up and

472
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh my goodness, first time they haven't used

473
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>a telephone. That's interesting. Called up my daughter the next day,

474
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, funny thing, I heard that voice

475
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>last night telepathically. She said, Well, that's really weird, she said,

476
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 1>because yesterday I was calling a friend of mine and

477
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to leave a message and that voice interfered on

478
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the message on the yeah, in the message, So yeah,

479
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. It's weird. Now, would there be an ability

480
00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>for humans to do that? Maybe, But if you think

481
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>about it, it's kind of unlikely. So I and then

482
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I had a elucid dream at some point where I

483
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 1>was driving in my little I had a little hybrid car.

484
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I was driving locally when I lived in New Jersey

485
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 1>to go pick up a friend of mine who lived

486
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 1>about two minutes away from my house. So I stopped

487
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>but uh, there's like a little a split in the road,

488
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and I stopped there and I'm waiting for her to

489
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.839
<v Speaker 1>come out and meet me. My car door opens on

490
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the passenger side, and what appeared to be a giant

491
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 1>reptilian jumped in the car, and I'm sort of in

492
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>a split second, I'm thinking, oh, oh no, this can't

493
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 1>be good, and i have my hand on the door handle,

494
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>but I'm looking at this being and it's looking me

495
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 1>and at that moment, and this is very hard to describe,

496
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>but it was as if our our gazes at each

497
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 1>other had locked, and I could feel a sudden pressure

498
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>on my head that it was like a like a

499
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 1>vacuum seal, almost like it just went and I couldn't

500
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 1>stop the I couldn't get out of that link. It

501
00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:59.159
<v Speaker 1>was very weird. And this is in my dream. So

502
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm thinking, well, Okay, I'm kind of doomed.

503
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 1>And then I thought, well, wait a second. You know,

504
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I've trained all these years to learn how to be psychic,

505
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:13.199
<v Speaker 1>so what was the point. So then I thought, okay, okay,

506
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to break this link. So I did something

507
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 1>that I can only describe as gathering plasma with my

508
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 1>mind and I shot it back through this link and

509
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I broke the link, and that was I got out

510
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>of it. But then I decided people need to know

511
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>how powerful we are as humans. People are afraid that,

512
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 1>you know you mentioned earlier, Well there at least, you know,

513
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I think I forget how many thousands of years you

514
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>propose that they're you know, etens or aliens are more

515
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>advanced than we are. Most people think they're more advanced.

516
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.079
<v Speaker 1>I think some are and some aren't. And I think

517
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>some just have different skills which makes us think they're

518
00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 1>more advanced. Okay, but I started thinking about that, I think, well,

519
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.679
<v Speaker 1>how many people? So many people are scared of them. Yeah,

520
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 1>we need to empower ourselves as humans. With our God

521
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>given natural gifts we have, we can do this. So

522
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.599
<v Speaker 1>that's why I decided to go in and I wrote

523
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 1>the book. I started teaching about this, and I started

524
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>teaching remote viewing, particularly to help people to develop these fills.

525
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 2>You bring up a very good point that we're afraid,

526
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's being afraid of the unknown our

527
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:40.480
<v Speaker 2>government and if they have a pr body or wing

528
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 2>to their works, the duct Department or the Defense National

529
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Security Agency CIA, whatever, they don't want us to interact.

530
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 2>It seems like they're doing everything they can to block

531
00:36:52.760 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 2>our knowledge, ability, to communicate, our ability to want to

532
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:06.199
<v Speaker 2>know more. It's like there's a concerned effort, and I'm wondering,

533
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to your point, of our power if they know that

534
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:17.440
<v Speaker 2>we could work walk among these off world types quite easily,

535
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and they don't want that. So I mean, what do

536
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.320
<v Speaker 2>you say to that? Am I barking up the wrong tree?

537
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 2>But you've spoken with a lot more experts and people

538
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.440
<v Speaker 2>in the field than me. You bring it up in

539
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 2>the book, these different people who are going, you know,

540
00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>check it out, reach it out.

541
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Clearly. You know, if you go back eighty years obviously,

542
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>end of World War Two, there was a couple of

543
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:47.280
<v Speaker 1>years where everything was wide open, and then the CIA

544
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>was created, and I think that was if I'm remembering that,

545
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I think it was forty seven or a bunch of

546
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 1>International Security Act and a bunch of things because the

547
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>government got really worried about what was what it just happened,

548
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Speaker 1>you know with Germany and with with Nazism and huge weapons.

549
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so they kind of and they suddenly clamped

550
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>down on a whole lot of things because they didn't

551
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>know who was doing what. And so yeah, they initially

552
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:20.519
<v Speaker 1>it was the Air Force and you had Project blue

553
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Book and you know all that kind of stuff. Won't

554
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>do the whole history on it. But so I think

555
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 1>what happened because they had to create the ridicule factor

556
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>so they couldn't get out of it. How do you

557
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>get out of once you've made everybody look like an

558
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>idiot if they, you know, talk about seeing a UAP

559
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.639
<v Speaker 1>a UFO, you know, how do you then go back

560
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and say, well, actually, no, that's that's a good point.

561
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>You're right. How do you do that without yourself looking

562
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 1>like an idiot?

563
00:38:57.559 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

564
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:04.239
<v Speaker 1>So I think they got stuck big time, and so

565
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I will in that respect, I'm going to give them

566
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 1>the benefit of doubt on that. I think there's certain

567
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 1>things that obviously are being withheld for sure, you know, technologies,

568
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, but in terms of sightings, I think

569
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 1>they're at a place now where it's pretty obvious that

570
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>they have to admit to a certain amount of being defenseless.

571
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>And that's the last thing you want to do if

572
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you are a representative of military or intel. You don't

573
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.199
<v Speaker 1>want to admit that you can't do a damn thing.

574
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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

575
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:47.239
<v Speaker 2>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

576
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:53.039
<v Speaker 2>with my guest today, Nancy Dutour discussing her book How

577
00:39:53.079 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 2>to Talk to an Alien. Will be right back. My

578
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.159
<v Speaker 2>guest today is Nancy Dutors. She has written a book

579
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.039
<v Speaker 2>called How to Talk to an Alien, and she is

580
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<v Speaker 2>giving us insights on the different communication techniques that are

581
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:53.079
<v Speaker 2>available to us, what we know about off world types,

582
00:40:53.519 --> 00:41:00.760
<v Speaker 2>and what the future holds for communication. The Brookies Institute

583
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 2>a document that was requisitioned in nineteen sixty by Believe

584
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 2>just as I think it was a Department of Defense

585
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 2>before they turned into NASA. They asked the Brooking Institute

586
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:18.840
<v Speaker 2>how would people react to first contact? Right? And basically

587
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Brookings wrote this or described the psychological profile of the

588
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:28.679
<v Speaker 2>typical United States citizen as going crazy as suicidal, as

589
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 2>killing themselves, as systems failing, as religions going up the window.

590
00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:38.199
<v Speaker 2>And that's you know, in the nineteen sixties when that

591
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 2>was requisitioned, and then most recently, I think three years ago,

592
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 2>the Department of Defense did the same thing, or maybe

593
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>it was the Pentagon and they asked They got a

594
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>group of theologians, rabbis, priests, Protestants, pastors and asked the

595
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.119
<v Speaker 2>same question and they said the same damn thing. People

596
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.559
<v Speaker 2>would kill themselves, religions would go out the way. We

597
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's a good idea. What kind of idiots

598
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 2>go to the I mean this shows us I think

599
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I want your opinion rather than going to social media

600
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 2>outlets where everybody's discussing current events and testing the waters

601
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:21.840
<v Speaker 2>on all kinds of different theories, and I think providing

602
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 2>a real refreshing look at the whole phenomenon of UAPs,

603
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 2>an alien super alien surveying the earth. You know, it's

604
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of asked backwards that they would go to the

605
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.039
<v Speaker 2>church rather than social media. And the point I'm trying

606
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:40.199
<v Speaker 2>to make is, of course you're going to get a

607
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 2>negative outlet point of view, and they're not gonna They're

608
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:49.280
<v Speaker 2>not refreshing the possibilities of people going Yes, I really

609
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:52.559
<v Speaker 2>wanted to know what's going I really want to meet

610
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 2>with these people. I love to see them come down

611
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 2>on their ships and say, you are part of a collective.

612
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm from planet X, you're from Earth. By the way,

613
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 2>we visited you thousands of years ago, blah blah blah,

614
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and you're a hybrid. You know. I don't know, I'm

615
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 2>spinning the wheel too much of it. But what do

616
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>you think of that that analysis that the Department of

617
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Defense got from the church.

618
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<v Speaker 1>I think that if you go to somebody who owns

619
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a store and sells certain products and say, listen, let's

620
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 1>just you know my people that your customers out there,

621
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 1>really what they want to do is they just want

622
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to barter with some stuff. You know. Is that what

623
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>that worked for you? The answer is going to be no.

624
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 1>The Church, like any other human business, is in business.

625
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<v Speaker 1>I know people don't like to hear that it's a

626
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 1>business that is built on spiritual thoughts and values. I

627
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>understand that it's still a business. It always has been,

628
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and people get very very invested in it. The same thing.

629
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<v Speaker 1>I have the same issue with ideal for whatever reason,

630
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 1>I have been dealing with scientists for several decades now and

631
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 1>getting them to understand what I'm talking about, usually in

632
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 1>terms of you know, psychic paranormal phenomena. Okay, is it's

633
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.800
<v Speaker 1>for many of them, I'm going to say, the vast majority,

634
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:39.360
<v Speaker 1>they really really have trouble with it. And the answer

635
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 1>is because they're in a business. Science is a business.

636
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 1>It's built on certain rules and regulations and authorities which

637
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>govern jobs and money. Same problem if you get into

638
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole you know, extraterrestrial you know what, if they

639
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>show up type of a thing, you you should, as

640
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you're saying, absolutely rightly, you should go. They

641
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.079
<v Speaker 1>should have done this a long time ago. Go directly

642
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 1>to just regular folks who've been looking at UFOs now

643
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>for decades, actually centuries actually probably millennia and reporting them

644
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 1>as best they can in whatever way they can, because

645
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not hasn't been built into a business, okay. And

646
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>what people have done, and I think it's it's been

647
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>really interesting to watch over the last couple of years,

648
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.559
<v Speaker 1>is they have the general population has finally gotten around

649
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to saying, oh, maybe there are you know, these funny

650
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>things called you know, UAPs, UFOs, extraterrestrials, you know, non

651
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 1>humans because you know why, because military says so, and

652
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>these whistleblowers from the military. Military is another business.

653
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:14.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's it's really hard to tell people that other

654
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 4>people have natural authority to talk about these things.

655
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's been a real problem. I agree

656
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:21.840
<v Speaker 1>with you.

657
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, amazing. Let's talk about this book. You opened the

658
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:35.599
<v Speaker 2>book discussing the humans feeble attempts to reach out and connect,

659
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and I want to open with the Drake's equation. Frank

660
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Drake and Accord and other scientists thought that they could

661
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 2>use a Carl Sagan right, a radio telescope to broadcast

662
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:59.119
<v Speaker 2>signals and equations out into space, hoping that someone would

663
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 2>find them. It was a needle in a haystack. But

664
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>that was our first I think that's the first way

665
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>documented attempt to connect with an alien species. But talk

666
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit about that.

667
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that was called the Aricibo message, and yeah,

668
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>it was sent out. They've figured it was. It was

669
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>based on a binary code based on ten digits, and

670
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 1>they sent out information about you know, who we are human,

671
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 1>what we kind of look like, what our DNA has

672
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.679
<v Speaker 1>made of, and something I think about our I've forgotten

673
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>what else, the planet itself or some of the chemical compositions.

674
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 1>So and they sent it out. The figure was going

675
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 1>to take twenty five thousand years to get a response

676
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.400
<v Speaker 1>because it was going to go to the nearest star system,

677
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, right, And you know, but what the hecket's

678
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:58.760
<v Speaker 1>worth a shot? And what they didn't anticipate, And this

679
00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.719
<v Speaker 1>is what I talked about, is that you know, it

680
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>came back. I think I forget how many years it was.

681
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it went out in nineteen seventy four, and it

682
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>came back in two thousand and one. Yeah, in the

683
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:14.559
<v Speaker 2>form of a crop circle, right, which was very weird

684
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.760
<v Speaker 2>that you would find that because I don't know where

685
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:23.239
<v Speaker 2>that's documented, but that's an amazing piece of reflection. And

686
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>everybody said that the crop circle was bs right because

687
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>at that time, I guess they were a lot of

688
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>fake crop circle people out there.

689
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And I think since then some of the

690
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 1>attitude about crop circles has changed. But people don't talk

691
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 1>about crop circles anymore. It's almost like they've they came

692
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:48.719
<v Speaker 1>in and out of our awareness. They were bringing messages

693
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 1>and they some of them could actually be decoded as

694
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 1>mathematical equations, scientific explanations for things. The question is was

695
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it you know, was it real? Was it real? And

696
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>that's so you have a confirmation in a sense, but

697
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 1>you're not sure if it's genuine or authentic. And that's

698
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>constantly been our problem. I think you have to start

699
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>judging what's authentic by different criteria and then maybe start

700
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 1>matching it up with other data that you have, but

701
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to dismiss it right off the bat, I mean, I

702
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 1>knew I knew a A and this long time ago

703
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>when I met him, this is a crop circle maker.

704
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 1>He was British. He was so excited that he you know,

705
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 1>he had sold all of his belongings. He'd gone down

706
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 1>to that oh that, you know, the Salisbury area, and

707
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, so he could hang out with apparently you

708
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 1>know this these these people, and he said, what he

709
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:54.719
<v Speaker 1>discovered was that it was a lot of humans making them,

710
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:59.679
<v Speaker 1>and so it was terribly disappointed. But then what he

711
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>disc govered was things like, you know, the the lights

712
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 1>that go over the crop circles and it's almost like

713
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:13.400
<v Speaker 1>they're drawing them with invisible pens. It's it's really interesting.

714
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Not only that, but he started to discover that he

715
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.559
<v Speaker 1>would dream about a particular creating a particular type of

716
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 1>a crop circle, and that that same night there would

717
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 1>be several others crop circle makers who would have the

718
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:33.880
<v Speaker 1>same image in their dreams. So, in other words, there's

719
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>something larger. It's a it involves consciousness. I believe that's

720
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 1>going on. And you can't sort of throw that stuff

721
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>away and say, well, okay, that means you know, there's

722
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 1>there's no aliens because it's just humans doing this. Well,

723
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a collaborative effect. I know, I know

724
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:02.320
<v Speaker 1>that you can do phenomenal things, have make impressions on

725
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:08.440
<v Speaker 1>our physical reality using consciousness. Okay, And that's a whole

726
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:09.400
<v Speaker 1>huge topic.

727
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You also extend the idea that it's possible that

728
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:21.039
<v Speaker 2>the NSA, which is the National Security Agency of the

729
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:27.199
<v Speaker 2>United States, has been sending out and perhaps receiving data

730
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>from other civilizations, other worlds, and you provide a reference

731
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of a friend or an acquaintance. I think his last

732
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:41.440
<v Speaker 2>name was Champagne. I could be saying it wrong, who

733
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 2>was a encryption specialist who wrote an article that you

734
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:51.639
<v Speaker 2>talk about, and he suspects that the NSA may be

735
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 2>trying to decrypt that's the right word.

736
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Now. No, he worked for the NSA. His name is

737
00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:01.719
<v Speaker 1>doctor Howard Companion.

738
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me and talk about him, because he did. He

739
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 2>write a white paper or a scientific paper where he

740
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:09.960
<v Speaker 2>theorized what was going on.

741
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 1>It was a declassified article. It was called Key to

742
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the Extraterrestrial Messages. He was one of the top government

743
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>cryptographers okay at the time, and so he was able

744
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to decrypt it and figure out at least some of

745
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:30.559
<v Speaker 1>the messaging that was coming back, and it apparently had

746
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:35.599
<v Speaker 1>to do with kind of things you would imagine. There

747
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>were questions about chemistry and mining, you know, materials, so

748
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:53.239
<v Speaker 1>that there are apparently some groups of extraterrestrials whose primary

749
00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 1>interest is just trading with us. You have others who

750
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>are very interested, for example, in water and my mentor

751
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.840
<v Speaker 1>in ghost One had talked about that in his I

752
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 1>think it was in his book Penetration, which was sort

753
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:14.039
<v Speaker 1>of a fictionalized, kind of a realistic type of account.

754
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 1>But since then, it's quite well known that people will

755
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:27.920
<v Speaker 1>see UFOs UAPs directly above, for example, bodies of water, lakes, reservoirs,

756
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the ocean, and it's been suggested that actually they are

757
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>taking water. Maybe you know, that's their bottle of water

758
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>they're taking on the trip to the next planet. I

759
00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:47.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know. But the story that I told you about

760
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 1>about the experience of seeing that boomerang shaped huge craft,

761
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>we were right across the street from a reservoir. So

762
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 1>there's an interest in earthly materials probably, so that doesn't

763
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>surprise me at all.

764
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.480
<v Speaker 2>You just brought up something and I thought was interesting

765
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:16.559
<v Speaker 2>that I hadn't heard before you in the book, right

766
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 2>about Clifford Stone. I met Clifford. He was a regular

767
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:24.400
<v Speaker 2>in the UFO community. But he speculated that there were

768
00:54:24.440 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 2>between four and eighty two different species of aliens that

769
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 2>were interacting with humans. And when I hear that, it's

770
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 2>like four and eighty two, what do you I mean,

771
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that's an amazing number.

772
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Actually, since then, they've they've speculated that it's more. Really, yeah,

773
00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>they're more. They have speculated in terms of what I've heard.

774
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.840
<v Speaker 1>And now I've forgotten where I have heard this or

775
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 1>read this, that there are six basic species that are

776
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:04.119
<v Speaker 1>currently visiting I don't know if that's you know, I've

777
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:06.960
<v Speaker 1>forgotten where I got that information, but certainly people have

778
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>talked about there being you know, well, over one hundred now,

779
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.639
<v Speaker 1>And of course that would make sense because now we

780
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.360
<v Speaker 1>have more general interest, we get more people describing these

781
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 1>things and reporting them.

782
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:21.599
<v Speaker 2>So of course, yeah, you know, And the thing that

783
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I've always been curious about is that if our government

784
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.360
<v Speaker 2>was contacted, you know, and there's a story of Eisenhower,

785
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 2>President Eisenhower being wisked out to the desert in California

786
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.639
<v Speaker 2>and meeting with the alien race and an agreement was

787
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.679
<v Speaker 2>made that you could come and take resources in exchange

788
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.159
<v Speaker 2>for technology. I don't know if that's true, and nobody

789
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.840
<v Speaker 2>knows who can verify it, but it's a great story.

790
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 2>But if we have a contract with alien groups, and

791
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.199
<v Speaker 2>this is what's an interesting about your book, how are

792
00:55:56.239 --> 00:56:00.480
<v Speaker 2>we communicating with them? And one of the big items

793
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:03.599
<v Speaker 2>that comes up when we study the abduction phenomenon when

794
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 2>these people are taken on board, is that telepathy is

795
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the most easy to use and easy to easy to

796
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:22.599
<v Speaker 2>communicate a tool that is used in the abduction experience.

797
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:25.400
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, I'm thinking back, you know who Budda

798
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Hopkins is and David Jacobs, all these guys who are

799
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:33.119
<v Speaker 2>reporting I think, and I am thinking back to John

800
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Mack in his wonderful book called The Abductions. I think

801
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:42.039
<v Speaker 2>that the general theme is telepathy because it's a lot

802
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 2>easier and it might help people calm down from being

803
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:50.679
<v Speaker 2>freaked out about being taken on the craft. But what's

804
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 2>your feeling on first contact and not physically speaking but

805
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.880
<v Speaker 2>communicating through a higher consciousness?

806
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:04.559
<v Speaker 1>A few things. When I wrote the book How to

807
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Talk to an Alien, and I suggested that there were

808
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 1>many reported ways to communicate, one of them being telepathically. Okay, people,

809
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:22.119
<v Speaker 1>particularly experiences that kind of saying got a little irritated because,

810
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:25.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, they all felt that, you know, really it's

811
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>just telepathic. And what I discovered was, no, it's not

812
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.760
<v Speaker 1>just telepathic. To let these great and by the way,

813
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the reasons. You know, in these contact experiences,

814
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:46.840
<v Speaker 1>experiencers regularly talk about you know, how you know their

815
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>thoughts are being read or they are receiving the thoughts

816
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.639
<v Speaker 1>of whoever you know, the entities are. And what I'm

817
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to do in teaching people well how to expand

818
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>their psychic abilities, skills and consciousness is that's great if it,

819
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:12.079
<v Speaker 1>but that's a one way transmission. Really, yeah, I want

820
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 1>to I want to teach people how to do a

821
00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:20.880
<v Speaker 1>two way transmission. I want us to read their thoughts. Okay,

822
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:27.159
<v Speaker 1>that's communication. So so yes, you can do it. And

823
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and by the way, you have so many different species

824
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:38.199
<v Speaker 1>of uh, multidimensionals, ets, intradimensionals, whatever. You have so many

825
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of them. They're using different tools to communicate. And I

826
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 1>talk about that in the book because I talk about

827
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 1>some of them are actually they've got like little switches

828
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.679
<v Speaker 1>on their helmets and things that they're just like it's

829
00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.599
<v Speaker 1>almost like they're now, we've almost got that pretty much.

830
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>We're getting close. Yeah, yeah, we're really close. Translation.

831
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so you gotta do switch language. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was one example that I gave. It is from a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago where they you know, they started out

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<v Speaker 1>the ets started out I think it was Cardenis, but

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<v Speaker 1>it started out, uh, you know, German language, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the the contact he said, no, I don't, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak German. They just think they speak English. No

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00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't speak English. They adjusted again and they speak Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, I don't. So then they start communicating.

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<v Speaker 1>You have others that got they have little mouthpieces where

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00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.440
<v Speaker 1>apparently they can speak with that. Some of them carry

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00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 1>equipment that apparently acts as some form of a translator.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of mechanical ways to do this,

844
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<v Speaker 1>and I think some species are using those. Others preferred telepathy.

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00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Some of them do a mix, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of people do. So I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>telepathy is great. I do talk about how and most

848
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<v Speaker 1>people never think about this that you can actually have

849
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:17.559
<v Speaker 1>mistakes in communication if you're using telepathy. And I used

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<v Speaker 1>the Betty Andresen example where they wanted what was it

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01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:33.880
<v Speaker 1>was something? It was something like fire or meat or

852
01:00:33.880 --> 01:00:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a trial or something, I forget the words, something with fire.

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01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So she goes to cook the meat because she thinks

854
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:42.239
<v Speaker 1>they're hungry. They said no, no, no, no, and then

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<v Speaker 1>telepathically they sort of try to read us and she

856
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.880
<v Speaker 1>finally figures out no, they're talking about a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a trial by fire. So she picks up the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they wanted. They wanted to copy the Bible. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And there are a bunch of examples. You would think

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<v Speaker 1>that with telepathy, oh it's perfect communication, and no, not always.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love your example of devices. You actually have

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of examples. One guy was taken and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a Finnish guy from Finland and they used the

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01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:21.360
<v Speaker 2>device to figure out who he was from, and he communicated.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was an English guy and a German

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<v Speaker 2>who they were using tech to speak with him. And

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<v Speaker 2>these technical devices I think they were handheld. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of sad that if there are eighty hundred

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01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:42.000
<v Speaker 2>different species who are here who are observing us, what

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<v Speaker 2>do we consider them? Are they professional anthropologists and they're

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01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:50.280
<v Speaker 2>studying human beings? I mean, it's getting to the point

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01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:54.320
<v Speaker 2>where it's almost ridiculous that they can't come out or

873
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and I'm interested in your thinking about this, is there

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<v Speaker 2>some official agreement with the presidents, with the powers that

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01:02:01.559 --> 01:02:06.039
<v Speaker 2>be years ago, decades ago, that they will will not

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01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:11.079
<v Speaker 2>interact with the human species until a certain time or

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01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:16.039
<v Speaker 2>a certain event, or I mean, it must. It's getting ridiculous,

878
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 2>it really is. You know, I'd say the same thing

879
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 2>to av Low, but every time he was on the program.

880
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're sending probes to observe the earth. Well,

881
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:27.360
<v Speaker 2>god damn it, forget the probes, come on down and

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<v Speaker 2>say hi.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what a lot of people are looking

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<v Speaker 1>for is because we think like humans, we recognize like

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01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 1>little beings that have arms and legs, or tall beings

886
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:48.159
<v Speaker 1>and they have you know, heads and hams, and that

887
01:02:48.199 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 1>we kind of get. It's like, yeah, some they're there,

888
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.639
<v Speaker 1>and why don't they come talk to us. I think

889
01:02:53.679 --> 01:03:01.079
<v Speaker 1>what people don't get is they link in appreciating their

890
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.320
<v Speaker 1>presence that is very much linked with our consciousness. And

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<v Speaker 1>I give an example. I had just moved up here

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01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to Connecticut three years ago, and so I turned onto

893
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:16.920
<v Speaker 1>our road. It's a very dark little road, country road,

894
01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and my husband was sitting in the passenger seat in

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01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the front, and I turned the car and I look

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01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 1>up to my right and there's that little house up

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01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:32.039
<v Speaker 1>there on the corner and surrounded by some trees, and

898
01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:38.079
<v Speaker 1>there was, all of the sudden, a huge, huge flash

899
01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:43.199
<v Speaker 1>of brilliant neon blue light, like a fireball, and it

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01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:49.760
<v Speaker 1>was traveling very fast horizontally. It was about roughly the

901
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.599
<v Speaker 1>treetops okay, but I'm saying like roughly thirty feet up,

902
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:58.119
<v Speaker 1>and it had it left as it traveled, it lit

903
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:01.440
<v Speaker 1>up the whole area, and it left a comet trail

904
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:03.679
<v Speaker 1>that was maybe twenty feet long.

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01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And then like that it's gone. And as it's doing

907
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.719
<v Speaker 1>its thing, and I'm driving, but I'm staring at this

908
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.880
<v Speaker 1>thing and I said, wow, well do you see that?

909
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you see that? My husband couldn't see it. He

910
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:18.480
<v Speaker 1>saw nothing.

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01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 1>And that is typical. Now why would that be? I think?

913
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.599
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I have many examples of when you

914
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:30.800
<v Speaker 1>have several people who some of them will see the

915
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:36.360
<v Speaker 1>craft or the beings and some will not. Okay, that

916
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.000
<v Speaker 1>also works because I have done a lot of work

917
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:44.400
<v Speaker 1>in the paranormal investigation field. That's also typical in that field,

918
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.039
<v Speaker 1>when you're dealing with spirits and ghosts and you know,

919
01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:51.119
<v Speaker 1>presence of different some people will see them and experience them,

920
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.159
<v Speaker 1>and some people it's like they're not even there.

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01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's stop for a minute, Nancy, let's expand on that.

922
01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Is it because the beans or the phenomenon is directing

923
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 2>it just for certain people's observation. Is it because the

924
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 2>people are open to the observation and the experience. What else?

925
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:12.760
<v Speaker 2>What else could it be?

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to look at it like a form

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01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:24.559
<v Speaker 1>of communication, then they would be targeting a particular individual.

928
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:30.119
<v Speaker 1>If you want to look at it as our abilities

929
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:36.159
<v Speaker 1>to perceive, then it's our job to be able to

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01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:38.920
<v Speaker 1>expand our consciousness to a place where we can actually

931
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:44.639
<v Speaker 1>perceive that kind of information, and that's what I look for.

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01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:47.320
<v Speaker 1>It's a very good question you're asking, because it's hard

933
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:50.559
<v Speaker 1>to know the difference. And the way that I have

934
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 1>in watching these situations sort of studying them, is it's

935
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 1>usually the people who have some type of an ability

936
01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 1>to perceive who will see them. Ah. And you know,

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01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:10.039
<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of when I was fifteen years old,

938
01:06:10.639 --> 01:06:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know why this still sticks in my head,

939
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:17.199
<v Speaker 1>but I was with my little teenage friends and we're all,

940
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, talking about you know, ghosts, and it was

941
01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:24.599
<v Speaker 1>ooh so scary and fun and whatever. And I suddenly

942
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:27.679
<v Speaker 1>said to this little group, I said, yeah, but what

943
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.159
<v Speaker 1>if they're all around us all the time, like right now?

944
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:35.280
<v Speaker 1>And that kind of shut down the conversation. But I

945
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:37.639
<v Speaker 1>never forgot that. And by the way, how do we

946
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:41.559
<v Speaker 1>know that we are not constantly surrounded? And let's say,

947
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, they talk about quantum dimensions. You know, that's

948
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.880
<v Speaker 1>with physicists. That's a big thing going on with the

949
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:53.360
<v Speaker 1>physicists right now, as well as our larger you know,

950
01:06:53.440 --> 01:07:00.360
<v Speaker 1>different dimensions or multiple dimensions. Okay, well that would mean

951
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.679
<v Speaker 1>and when I go, for example, on a I do

952
01:07:04.719 --> 01:07:07.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of mediumship on paranormal events and that kind

953
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:10.559
<v Speaker 1>of thing. If I go to a place, I'll feel

954
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:17.199
<v Speaker 1>time as in the same location, okay, the same space,

955
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 1>but I will feel time is being sandwiched all over

956
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the place. In other words, it's all crunched into the

957
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:30.639
<v Speaker 1>same location but different time zones, and I can I

958
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:32.360
<v Speaker 1>feel it, and I perceive it, and I can gather

959
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:33.519
<v Speaker 1>information that way.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe my thinking of a group sighting or a

961
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<v Speaker 2>unveiling in other words, they land their ship is too

962
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:55.960
<v Speaker 2>out of touch, and that's not how they work. Maybe

963
01:07:55.960 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 2>they're working at slowly identifying themselves to a certain group,

964
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:08.440
<v Speaker 2>and as we individually evolve and open our consciousness to

965
01:08:08.480 --> 01:08:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the other possibilities, it sifts down to them, to the

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01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:19.000
<v Speaker 2>newer multitudes who are preparing. So then everybody may not

967
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.319
<v Speaker 2>be ready yet. So I don't know. I keep saying,

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01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.560
<v Speaker 2>just land your damn ships and come out and shake

969
01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:28.319
<v Speaker 2>my hand. But maybe I'm not ready for that. Maybe

970
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:31.439
<v Speaker 2>that's too much. Maybe the even thought of that is

971
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:33.840
<v Speaker 2>part of me is like, oh yeah, sure, you could

972
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:36.359
<v Speaker 2>that all happen, But if it actually did happen, I'd

973
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 2>go run for the hills.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you have a whole other problem, which is if

975
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<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with physical, you know, material entities as opposed

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01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:54.039
<v Speaker 1>to purely non physical You know, everybody has said, I

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01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:56.520
<v Speaker 1>mean all the time people, Well, you know, you take

978
01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.000
<v Speaker 1>your typical skeptic. Why don't they land on the line

979
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of the White House? I mean, what's the problem, just

980
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:05.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, show up? Well, yeah, yeah, they did kind

981
01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:07.640
<v Speaker 1>of almost in nineteen fifty two. They flew all over

982
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the White House.

983
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw that.

984
01:09:09.479 --> 01:09:10.560
<v Speaker 1>People flipped out.

985
01:09:11.039 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

986
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:17.359
<v Speaker 1>People, you know everything military goes on high alert. I mean,

987
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:19.199
<v Speaker 1>would you fly into that?

988
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, how do you deal with that if you're

989
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 2>a stone age military. We're going to take a commercial

990
01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:34.520
<v Speaker 2>break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and will

991
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:39.720
<v Speaker 2>return shortly with my guests today, Nancy Dutour discussing her

992
01:09:39.760 --> 01:09:45.520
<v Speaker 2>book How to Talk to an Alien, will rejoin you shortly.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest today is Nancy Detour. She has written a

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01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.680
<v Speaker 2>book called How to Talk to an Alien, and we're

995
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:40.640
<v Speaker 2>learning just what she discovered from the past, our historical

996
01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:46.319
<v Speaker 2>evidence of abductions and communication with off world types, and

997
01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:53.159
<v Speaker 2>what we can expect today. I want to talk real

998
01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:57.319
<v Speaker 2>quickly more on history. You talked about the abductive phenomenon,

999
01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:02.800
<v Speaker 2>and we really do learn from abductees that have written

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01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:08.880
<v Speaker 2>about their experience being on ships communicating with advanced species

1001
01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:13.359
<v Speaker 2>of beings. But talk a little bit about some of

1002
01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the early abduction experiences. There's one that you feature in

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01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:24.920
<v Speaker 2>the book, the sixteenth century Chinese abductee actually was in

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01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:30.479
<v Speaker 2>fifteen twenty eight. He was a Stonemason and he was

1005
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:35.960
<v Speaker 2>taking aboard and they actually did some medical experience experiments

1006
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.279
<v Speaker 2>on the poor guy, and talk about that. It's just

1007
01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:40.800
<v Speaker 2>the most amazing story.

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01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that I may not remember this.

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01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I can fill it in for you.

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01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think you had said that whatever I

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01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 1>had written about this particular story, they had removed his heart.

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01:11:53.239 --> 01:11:56.800
<v Speaker 2>They removed his heart, and he was looking at them

1013
01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.760
<v Speaker 2>doing it, so he was conscious and they I guess

1014
01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:04.119
<v Speaker 2>they were inspecting him in some manner. It was just

1015
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:05.000
<v Speaker 2>at the end of stay.

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01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I know people who have been abducted who say that

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01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 1>during you know, as they're lying on the metal slab

1018
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:21.479
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, that and being restrained, that they

1019
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:28.079
<v Speaker 1>had their entire eyeballs removed. And I kept saying, well,

1020
01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:34.199
<v Speaker 1>weren't you worried. I mean no, no, there was no problem. Really.

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01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, So yeah, apparently that is you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. And by the way, think about it also

1023
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:49.720
<v Speaker 1>the well, I mean certain certain organs, the brain. I mean,

1024
01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:53.199
<v Speaker 1>there are no nerve endings on that. People do brain

1025
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:58.039
<v Speaker 1>surgeries with no anesthesia. And if you have a way,

1026
01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:05.920
<v Speaker 1>let's say of some how, let's say telepathically calming whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the nerve pathways are in your abducted person, they may

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01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:16.520
<v Speaker 1>not feel anything. And since we are not just physical entities,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like hybrids. All of us were physical and non physical.

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<v Speaker 1>The non physical I guess can go, you know, waltzing

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01:13:23.840 --> 01:13:25.880
<v Speaker 1>around saying, yeah, I'm cool with this.

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<v Speaker 2>But what kind of technology would allow a species to

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<v Speaker 2>remove a human's heart. The guy's still alive looking at

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01:13:36.359 --> 01:13:42.840
<v Speaker 2>them manipulating his heart, and he's just fascinated. I mean,

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01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.199
<v Speaker 2>that's so out of control. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not as ridiculous as you think it is.

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01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Think about think about open heart surgery. Yeah, I actually

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01:13:54.520 --> 01:13:56.960
<v Speaker 1>once was in the elevator with the guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy to do open heart surgery. But anyway

1040
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:06.479
<v Speaker 1>you remove the heart, it's out of the body. And

1041
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:10.439
<v Speaker 1>if the person is having any type of anything like

1042
01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:13.479
<v Speaker 1>a near death experience or an out of body experience,

1043
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:16.399
<v Speaker 1>they could be just running around the room or up

1044
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:19.079
<v Speaker 1>on the ceiling saying, yeah, this is kind of interesting.

1045
01:14:19.279 --> 01:14:23.560
<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, the consciousness is outside of the body.

1046
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.319
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that was unique about it is this Stonemason,

1047
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:31.159
<v Speaker 2>this Chinese stone Mason, was taken to their planet, their

1048
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.520
<v Speaker 2>red planet. And you talk about that, and I mean,

1049
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:41.359
<v Speaker 2>this is in fifteen twenty eight. It's christ you actually documented.

1050
01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I was just like so amazed. I had never heard

1051
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:51.560
<v Speaker 2>of an abductee chronicled abduction chronicle in such a way

1052
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like that. It was just amazing.

1053
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've forgotten how I'd found that. I did a

1054
01:14:56.640 --> 01:14:58.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of research. I've forgotten how I found it. But

1055
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.199
<v Speaker 1>I was also for the same I was kind of amazed.

1056
01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I'd never heard of that.

1057
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Another one that you and this is this is

1058
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:10.640
<v Speaker 2>not unnecessarily non typical. In nineteen fifty seven are Brazilian

1059
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the mentonio velispor Uh was taken on a ship and

1060
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:22.720
<v Speaker 2>he was forced to have a sexual act with one

1061
01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.479
<v Speaker 2>of the aliens. That theme has happened. I've heard of

1062
01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:34.800
<v Speaker 2>this happen before where a human is forced or cajoled,

1063
01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:38.880
<v Speaker 2>cajoled into having a sex act with an alien female

1064
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:43.680
<v Speaker 2>for the purpose of pro creation. Oh my god.

1065
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and women too. It is not just the guys.

1066
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's a whole lot of sex going on

1067
01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:50.319
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

1068
01:15:53.680 --> 01:16:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Just just totally amazing. One thing that I want to

1069
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:03.800
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about this is that there are

1070
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:08.199
<v Speaker 2>a number of races that look very much like Earth humans,

1071
01:16:08.239 --> 01:16:17.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, the Nordic type, the Caucasian type. And there's

1072
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.439
<v Speaker 2>been a number of authors that I've spoken with, a

1073
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:23.840
<v Speaker 2>number of presenters that have chronicled the fact that they

1074
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 2>walk among us quite quite comfortably. And that's another one

1075
01:16:28.399 --> 01:16:32.279
<v Speaker 2>of those ideas where are like, okay, you're walking among us,

1076
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.359
<v Speaker 2>just spill the beans and say, hey, we're here. Of course,

1077
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:39.279
<v Speaker 2>that might that might be a problem because if they're

1078
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 2>walking around, then they're outed and then people are running

1079
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:47.119
<v Speaker 2>running after them and could cause harm. But just that

1080
01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 2>whole understanding that they are so closely, they look so

1081
01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:55.399
<v Speaker 2>close like us, that they're walking around, it's just amazing.

1082
01:16:55.920 --> 01:17:00.079
<v Speaker 2>And you give some examples of that, but just the

1083
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:06.479
<v Speaker 2>whole thought that they're here, you know, they're here, and

1084
01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:09.680
<v Speaker 2>they have been for for who knows how long. What's

1085
01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:10.479
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts on that?

1086
01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I've always wondered about that, because you wonder

1087
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:24.199
<v Speaker 1>if people are exaggerating and they feel just because somebody

1088
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.239
<v Speaker 1>looks or feels a little funky to them, that oh,

1089
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:31.800
<v Speaker 1>they must be an alien. Well maybe maybe not. I

1090
01:17:31.800 --> 01:17:34.119
<v Speaker 1>think you need a little bit more than that. I'll

1091
01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:36.840
<v Speaker 1>tell you a personal story if you if you want

1092
01:17:37.479 --> 01:17:45.760
<v Speaker 1>always okay. So, so Ngo had always in his Penetration

1093
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:50.399
<v Speaker 1>book talked about and most people know this story. He

1094
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:56.479
<v Speaker 1>finds this incredibly gorgeous, voluptuous, you know, woman who's standing

1095
01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>there as he's trying to hit it, said that like

1096
01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the fresh pride section of some supermarket, and you know,

1097
01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:08.039
<v Speaker 1>he knew instantly that she was not from here. And

1098
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I always wondered about that, Well, how would he know instantly?

1099
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:13.039
<v Speaker 1>What does that feel like? Why would you know that

1100
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:18.640
<v Speaker 1>if they looked just like us? Okay, So fast forward

1101
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 1>many like a couple decades. All right, and I'm in

1102
01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:29.439
<v Speaker 1>the supermarket now. I'm sure I wanted to reach something

1103
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that was in the fresh produce section, but very high up.

1104
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:41.319
<v Speaker 1>So there's this tall woman next to me. She's very tall, beautiful,

1105
01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:45.920
<v Speaker 1>absolutely gorgeous you know, blonde hair, perfectly quaffed. She was

1106
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:51.239
<v Speaker 1>wearing unlike everyone else who ever went into that supermarket,

1107
01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of the moms, the housewives, whoever was doing,

1108
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the women in there, they're generally going in their sweat

1109
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.760
<v Speaker 1>pants with their yoga stuff, and you know, it's in

1110
01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:08.319
<v Speaker 1>and out. Let's get this over with. She was dressed

1111
01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>in a gorgeous it looks like something straight out of

1112
01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:17.000
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties. It was cinched at the waist. It

1113
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was white with what looked like giant maybe red flowers,

1114
01:19:21.119 --> 01:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>roses or something designed with a big flouncy sort of

1115
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:28.880
<v Speaker 1>skirt part of the dress and a big red belt.

1116
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she could have been on the cover of

1117
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:37.520
<v Speaker 1>like Look magazine or something from Waybeck or And I said,

1118
01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, would you mind could you help me? I'm

1119
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:42.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to reach that And she says, oh, no problem,

1120
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>she reaches, she gives it to me, and I said, oh,

1121
01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:47.439
<v Speaker 1>thank you very much. She said, not a problem. And

1122
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:50.399
<v Speaker 1>then I because I told you, I listened to language,

1123
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and I said, oh, you know, you seem to have

1124
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an accent. Where are you from?

1125
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:01.199
<v Speaker 1>And she said, oh, you know it doesn't matter. No one,

1126
01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>nobody's ever heard of it. I said, yeah, try me.

1127
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:07.560
<v Speaker 1>She says, I'm from Latvia.

1128
01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Latvia.

1129
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I've been there, so I know what Latvian's

1130
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>look like. I didn't say that, but yeah. So anyway,

1131
01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:20.840
<v Speaker 1>so I take my one piece of produce, whatever it

1132
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 1>was it was ailing I want to buy. I go

1133
01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>straight to the cashiers. I buy it. And normally from

1134
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the supermarket to money house it was maybe a four

1135
01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.600
<v Speaker 1>minute drive, maybe less, and if you got to walk there,

1136
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be, say, twenty minutes. So I'm I bolted

1137
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:41.920
<v Speaker 1>straight out of there, went straight to my car, drove

1138
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>straight home. And now I'm on my street. And who's

1139
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:48.680
<v Speaker 1>walking on my street but her, which would have been impossible.

1140
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

1141
01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. If you look for don't don't

1142
01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:58.680
<v Speaker 1>just go on the you know, evidence that presents itself.

1143
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Try to find something that cannot make sense. And that's

1144
01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:08.359
<v Speaker 1>when you say, oh, okay, maybe that person is really

1145
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not from here. There are and now I'm a little

1146
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>bit more sensitized to that, and I can feel certain

1147
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:19.760
<v Speaker 1>people that way. Yeah.

1148
01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:24.560
<v Speaker 2>You bring up Timothy Good, who's this phenomenal author and

1149
01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:27.760
<v Speaker 2>he believes he and you actually quote him in your book,

1150
01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:31.359
<v Speaker 2>that the beings from other worlds have been on Earth

1151
01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:36.079
<v Speaker 2>longer than we have been here. In other words, our species,

1152
01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Homo sapien sapiens, came out of this tree, and perhaps

1153
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Good is suggesting that there's other trees from other civilizations

1154
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that have been on Earth and populated. And it's funny

1155
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:51.920
<v Speaker 2>because when I hear that, I think about these unusual

1156
01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:57.119
<v Speaker 2>groups who appear. You see their rules, you see their

1157
01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:01.840
<v Speaker 2>megalithic structures, but there's no evidence of them being around anymore.

1158
01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:07.800
<v Speaker 2>I just interviewed a husband and wife team who have

1159
01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:12.279
<v Speaker 2>been working with this part of Columbia, South America called

1160
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Saint Augustine, and these only thing that's left of the

1161
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:21.279
<v Speaker 2>beings that were there are these megalithic sculptures of people.

1162
01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:26.640
<v Speaker 2>But the people are wearing technology like headphones and headsets,

1163
01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:31.359
<v Speaker 2>and their sculptures are very sophisticated, but there's nothing else

1164
01:22:31.399 --> 01:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>that's left to them. And you've got to wonder was

1165
01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:38.560
<v Speaker 2>earthlike kind of a Garden of Eden at some point,

1166
01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:41.119
<v Speaker 2>because they weren't. They haven't been on the planet for

1167
01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.399
<v Speaker 2>five thousand plus years, you know, maybe they were they

1168
01:22:44.439 --> 01:22:48.720
<v Speaker 2>came they settled, then they left. And that's just one

1169
01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:56.520
<v Speaker 2>of many, many examples of of unusual species of beings

1170
01:22:56.560 --> 01:22:59.279
<v Speaker 2>being on the planet. Because we don't have any skeletory

1171
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:04.479
<v Speaker 2>remains of these people. It's very strange. So I was

1172
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:06.600
<v Speaker 2>thinking about Tim Good, you know, and what he had

1173
01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:07.560
<v Speaker 2>to say about.

1174
01:23:07.239 --> 01:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>That, and I don't recall exactly what I wrote about

1175
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>what he said about that, but you know the fact

1176
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that when people are talking about communicating, okay, a lot

1177
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of with inter dimensionals, a lot of people are, you know,

1178
01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:34.720
<v Speaker 1>doing speaking light languages, which has become incredibly popular after

1179
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I wrote that book, but it was not really a

1180
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:46.720
<v Speaker 1>thing when I wrote it. And people a lot of

1181
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>them feel that they are in communication and are speaking

1182
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:56.159
<v Speaker 1>something that sounds sort of it has sort of like

1183
01:23:56.239 --> 01:24:01.000
<v Speaker 1>an ancient sort of an I'm not good with Middle

1184
01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Eastern stuff, but sort of an Arabic or a guttural

1185
01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:06.079
<v Speaker 1>type of a sound.

1186
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Like a lost language.

1187
01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So if you go back, and I did write

1188
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:18.439
<v Speaker 1>about that, if you go back, say three thousand years ago,

1189
01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and you look at some of the Sumerian languages, you

1190
01:24:22.199 --> 01:24:26.279
<v Speaker 1>look at archaic archaic Egyptian languages, or even Paleo Hebrew,

1191
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:34.119
<v Speaker 1>those are all more in that third millennial BC. And

1192
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>to me, that suggested, you know, they may have been there,

1193
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:44.279
<v Speaker 1>left there, let's say, to go to a different planet

1194
01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:48.079
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and so that when they're coming back, that's

1195
01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the language that they still recall speaking on Earth.

1196
01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1197
01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>You know that's That's one way to look at it.

1198
01:24:58.479 --> 01:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm curious to get your thoughts on channeled information.

1199
01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I have people like Bashar, who is channeled. He's a

1200
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.920
<v Speaker 2>space entity channel through a guy named darryl Anka and

1201
01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>he's been doing He's been channeling this alien for three

1202
01:25:23.840 --> 01:25:29.800
<v Speaker 2>decades if not longer. And Bashar's psych And I'm not

1203
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>a great nothing. I'm on the fence with it. And

1204
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I used to have people at the shows that I

1205
01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:39.479
<v Speaker 2>did that were channeling various entities. But when you when

1206
01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:42.880
<v Speaker 2>you hear somebody like this, who's actually saying that I'm

1207
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:45.840
<v Speaker 2>from this planet, this is my name, and this is

1208
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>the message I have for you, what do you say

1209
01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:48.039
<v Speaker 2>to that?

1210
01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>It really depends who I'm talking to. I can tell

1211
01:25:56.199 --> 01:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>you that as a psychic medium, I have always been

1212
01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:04.319
<v Speaker 1>incredibly skeptical of people who are channeling.

1213
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Now.

1214
01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew when I was in college for some reason,

1215
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I was very good friends with her. They were brother

1216
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:17.119
<v Speaker 1>and sister, and their mother was known to be the

1217
01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:21.319
<v Speaker 1>premier et channel or in the world.

1218
01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:23.439
<v Speaker 2>E wed channeler. ET.

1219
01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really yeah, And and of course I'm like at

1220
01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>that point, I'm like, well, what is that stuff? I

1221
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:33.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know what psychics were. I mean that was

1222
01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>but we anyway, we brought her to come and speak

1223
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>at the university. We couldn't get her in as part

1224
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of the regular program, but we got her into one

1225
01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of the clubs, and you know, I watched her. She'd

1226
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:48.079
<v Speaker 1>bent to spoon for me when we took her out

1227
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to launch at one of the eating clubs. She she

1228
01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know what that was about either. I figured, oh,

1229
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that's got to be some kind of magic. And now

1230
01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:57.079
<v Speaker 1>I do it, so I know how to do it.

1231
01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I've ben steel, so it's real and now. But it

1232
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:05.039
<v Speaker 1>took me line today anyway, So she according and her

1233
01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:10.279
<v Speaker 1>kids are like incredibly straight laced, serious, no, none of

1234
01:27:10.319 --> 01:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>this bs stuffy. Then they'd not, you know, they don't

1235
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>get on psychic roots or whatever. And they told me,

1236
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>as did her husband when her husband was alive, that

1237
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>she had channeled. She went into a channeling session of

1238
01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:31.960
<v Speaker 1>et and she had done this regularly for many, many years,

1239
01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>but apparently that regular entity did not show up, and

1240
01:27:36.680 --> 01:27:42.239
<v Speaker 1>a very unpleasant entity got in. And my friends and

1241
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>their father all told me that within I think it

1242
01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:50.319
<v Speaker 1>was it was either seventeen or nineteen seconds, she had

1243
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>put on fifty pounds forty pounds excuse me her, the

1244
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>zipper on her skirt busted, and all of her buttons

1245
01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>on her blouse like blew off. Wow, And she wasn't

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01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>ever able to take off all of that weight. So

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01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>to me, there's a little like, Okay, yeah, I guess

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01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:16.279
<v Speaker 1>there actually were some real entities there, which, by the way,

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01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>is one reason I do not channel. I'll communicate. I

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01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>do not channel because I do not give up the vessel,

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01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:28.319
<v Speaker 1>right right. And you also, if you're gonna look at

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01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>anybody who's channeling, I think you have to look at

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01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I found it very interesting to listen to uh, what's

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01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Bashar's human? What's his name again, darryl Anka, Yeah, darryl Anka.

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01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I found it very interesting to listen to him on

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01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:49.319
<v Speaker 1>interviews talking just as him and not Bashar. He's a

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01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>he's a very smart guy.

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01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, that's what I'm wondering, and.

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01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>And you have to ask yourself, is the information that's

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01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:07.159
<v Speaker 1>being delivered inaccessible to us humans? Otherwise that's where I

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01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:08.159
<v Speaker 1>would ask the question.

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01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:10.399
<v Speaker 2>That's a good point, you know, is it something that

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01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:16.359
<v Speaker 2>we can access and make sense of? So it's fascinating.

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01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>The book is how to talk to an alien? Can

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01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:24.359
<v Speaker 2>they speak our language? Can they read our minds? What

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01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:30.079
<v Speaker 2>are they trying to tell us? And then my guess

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01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:39.039
<v Speaker 2>been Nancy, Yes, the wonderful French name. What are they

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01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>trying to tell us?

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01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think they've they It depends again who you're

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01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:47.319
<v Speaker 1>talking to, but I think the ones who really are

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01:29:47.359 --> 01:29:50.159
<v Speaker 1>trying to talk to us have done, you know, all

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01:29:50.199 --> 01:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>those typical things that contact he's talk about, which is

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01:29:54.359 --> 01:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about interconnectedness, of consciousness of God, of the universe,

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01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:06.039
<v Speaker 1>of them and us, and also of the importance because

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01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:13.359
<v Speaker 1>of interconnectedness of protecting their planet our planet. Same thing.

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01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I had to go ahead, I'm sorry, had more?

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01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:22.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, And I think that you know, we're reaching

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01:30:22.159 --> 01:30:25.159
<v Speaker 1>critical points right now. I think everybody feels that. Everybody

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01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>knows that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. One of the things that I always come up

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01:30:29.239 --> 01:30:33.760
<v Speaker 2>with when I think about first contact in the broad

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01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and planetary knowledge that we're not the only ones in

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01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:40.199
<v Speaker 2>our universe or our cosmos is the fact, and I'm

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01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:43.760
<v Speaker 2>interested in your opinion of this. As a species, we

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01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:48.640
<v Speaker 2>automatically evolve when we get that understanding that we are

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01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:51.279
<v Speaker 2>not the only ones here, that there are other alien

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01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:56.359
<v Speaker 2>et races that are nearby. They're observing us right now,

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01:30:57.479 --> 01:31:00.399
<v Speaker 2>and for whatever reason, they've decided not to make full contact.

1289
01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>But when the contact is acknowledged and it's in our newspapers,

1290
01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>in our radios, in our podcasts, and you can have

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01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:11.159
<v Speaker 2>a conversation with an alien, which I've wanted to do

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01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>on another show, we automatically shift and changes a species.

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01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Don't you believe that's true?

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01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Because we have that knowledge because.

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01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:28.159
<v Speaker 2>We know we're not alone anymore, that we are part

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01:31:28.239 --> 01:31:34.600
<v Speaker 2>of a likely a collective, and that we are part

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01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>of the cosmos. We're not just the only beings in

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01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:42.119
<v Speaker 2>our in our universe, you know what I mean? Because

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01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of the big safety nets, is that,

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01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:49.199
<v Speaker 2>which is what I think our government and the churches

1301
01:31:49.239 --> 01:31:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and religion sends out that we're the only ones, So

1302
01:31:53.720 --> 01:31:56.199
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to worry we're all by ourselves. We

1303
01:31:56.239 --> 01:31:58.840
<v Speaker 2>have to be with we have to protect each other.

1304
01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 2>But if we're not, if we're given the knowledge that

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01:32:02.039 --> 01:32:03.600
<v Speaker 2>we're not the only ones that were part of a

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01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:08.479
<v Speaker 2>collective of planets and that we are one of a

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01:32:08.600 --> 01:32:12.159
<v Speaker 2>number of species, we automatically have to change our opinion

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01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:17.399
<v Speaker 2>of ourself, of our planet. It changes everything. That's the

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01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:18.239
<v Speaker 2>feeling that I have.

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01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it reminds me of that thing about like when

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01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you go into it's either high school or you go

1312
01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>into college, or you know, the freshman knows nothing or

1313
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>does not know that he knows nothing, and then the

1314
01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>sophomore and then finding you to the senior who knows

1315
01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that he knows, but everything in between is kind of

1316
01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:47.159
<v Speaker 1>a mess. Yeah. Once you have knowledge, you're then responsible

1317
01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:53.199
<v Speaker 1>for that knowledge. Yeah, and I you know, humans are

1318
01:32:53.359 --> 01:32:58.359
<v Speaker 1>extremely used to dominating the planet, dominating all of their

1319
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:01.399
<v Speaker 1>species on the planet and destroying them. And I forget

1320
01:33:01.680 --> 01:33:07.159
<v Speaker 1>horrible rates and threatening to destroy our human species just

1321
01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>because you have people who you know are seeking dominance, power, whatever.

1322
01:33:13.399 --> 01:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Once you throw in entities that are how would you say,

1323
01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>potentially much smarter, potentially invisible, potentially technologically advanced, you've got

1324
01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to reconsider your own abilities. And you know that's the

1325
01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:38.359
<v Speaker 1>point if you were doing I've owned a whole lot

1326
01:33:38.359 --> 01:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>of businesses and also as a lawyer. I mean, if

1327
01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you understand that you're in a weak position, that's not

1328
01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>the point the place where you go to litigation to

1329
01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>duke it out. That's where you start negotiating or trying

1330
01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to figure Okay, how can we work this out. That's

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01:33:57.600 --> 01:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of a discussion.

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01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I like that. Yeah, So as we conclude, Nancy, what

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01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:07.760
<v Speaker 2>what are some thoughts you'd like to leave our audience

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01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>with in terms of the future of communicating with ets

1335
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>and what you what you kind of think of what

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01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the future holds for greater communication.

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01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to tell you right off the bat,

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01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this whole new thing with military psionics

1339
01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>is a fantastic idea, you know, using psychically talented people

1340
01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:44.119
<v Speaker 1>in the military to call in UAPs, because then you

1341
01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>got to look at, well, what are the motivations for that,

1342
01:34:47.239 --> 01:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>and if you're going to bring them in using deception,

1343
01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:54.039
<v Speaker 1>which is we love you, come on in, we love you,

1344
01:34:55.439 --> 01:35:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and then we don't, what have we done? So I

1345
01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>think communication has to be done with clear intent, and

1346
01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:12.159
<v Speaker 1>it has to be done with the understanding that we

1347
01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:18.079
<v Speaker 1>need to up our game in order to learn how

1348
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:23.199
<v Speaker 1>to communicate. That's really what I've spent most of my

1349
01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:26.760
<v Speaker 1>career trying to show people is how do we get better?

1350
01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>How do we get stronger? How do we get better?

1351
01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Because the stronger we are, we're in a better position.

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01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>That's how I think we need to be able to

1353
01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.439
<v Speaker 1>learn how to communicate. But you start playing deception games

1354
01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think we lose interesting.

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01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:44.439
<v Speaker 2>I was not aware of that they were doing that.

1356
01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:49.800
<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of Stephen Greer's contact scenario where he

1357
01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>uses laser lights out in the desert and you flash him,

1358
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and he's had some experiences where they'll come down and

1359
01:35:58.920 --> 01:36:02.359
<v Speaker 2>you can see this an it's a UAP, but they

1360
01:36:02.359 --> 01:36:07.279
<v Speaker 2>don't land, you know, because God knows what would happen

1361
01:36:07.279 --> 01:36:07.479
<v Speaker 2>if the.

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01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm all in favor. You know, I've done many CE

1363
01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:18.079
<v Speaker 1>fives in all favor of and I've seen many, many

1364
01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>many UFOs UAPs. I don't call them in That's not

1365
01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>my purpose. What I'm trying to do is to communicate. Essentially.

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01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's saying hello, but I'm not saying, Oh, come

1367
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:35.600
<v Speaker 1>on down, visit us here on earth. We're really great folks.

1368
01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:40.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll treat you right. I'm not doing that because I

1369
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>think that is a mistake for a whole number of reasons.

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01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:46.079
<v Speaker 1>It's too long to go into, but I think it's

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01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:50.199
<v Speaker 1>important to it.

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01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:55.720
<v Speaker 2>It is important to communicate very good. All right, Nancy,

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01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:59.119
<v Speaker 2>give us your website and how people can get a

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01:36:59.159 --> 01:36:59.680
<v Speaker 2>hold of you.

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01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, that would be great. So the website is

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01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the Skeptical Psychic dot com. And I have I do

1377
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>teach remote viewing, I do dream analysis uh And as

1378
01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I said, I've got this new uh TSP remote viewing

1379
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:26.199
<v Speaker 1>for autistics neurodivergence. They can reach me there easily. I'm

1380
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>also working on a new uh uh TV series that

1381
01:37:31.079 --> 01:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>will involve the kinds of things that we're talking about.

1382
01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:39.319
<v Speaker 1>So that is very promising. That is coming together very

1383
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:40.760
<v Speaker 1>fast right now. I'm working with you.

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01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Is that is that Nancy Dutour on Unexplained or is

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01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>this an old your own channel? No?

1386
01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:54.039
<v Speaker 1>No, no, this is a TV series. It's it's not

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01:37:54.119 --> 01:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a YouTube thing.

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01:37:56.800 --> 01:37:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh actual TV.

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01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Cool, this is actual Yeah, So that's something you know,

1390
01:38:03.079 --> 01:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>we're interested in. We do have people interested already who

1391
01:38:08.039 --> 01:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>are interested in, you know, pushing this to the finishing line.

1392
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's been a major project going on with me

1393
01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>right now.

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01:38:16.720 --> 01:38:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. I look forward to hearing more about that. Hey,

1395
01:38:19.840 --> 01:38:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate your time. It's been fun, and I

1396
01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:28.279
<v Speaker 2>hope that you expand this book on aliens. Maybe I

1397
01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>heard a number of different themes that you could pick

1398
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:34.039
<v Speaker 2>up on and write a book. But of course it's

1399
01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:37.520
<v Speaker 2>me talking to you writing, so it's two different things.

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01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm always interested in collaborations. I'd be happy to work

1401
01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>on something with you.

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01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Rah, interesting, Okay, Hey, a real pleasure. I want

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01:38:48.119 --> 01:38:51.319
<v Speaker 2>to thank you for joining me and continue success.

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01:38:52.119 --> 01:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I really appreciate it.

1405
01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>How to Talk to an Alien is available in most bookstores,

1406
01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and I found it a couple, like I said, a

1407
01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:11.079
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago, and she speaks to it, and

1408
01:39:11.159 --> 01:39:14.199
<v Speaker 2>she's actually when we were talking to her today, she's

1409
01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:19.439
<v Speaker 2>actually adding more of the remote viewing aspect of it.

1410
01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And I've had people on the show years ago, probably

1411
01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>like five or six years ago, who were talking about

1412
01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:30.439
<v Speaker 2>remote viewing planet Mars. I mentioned Mars, but also remote

1413
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:36.159
<v Speaker 2>viewing Earth thousands of years ago. And some of these

1414
01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:40.399
<v Speaker 2>guys are coming up with different kinds of hominids, different

1415
01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:44.039
<v Speaker 2>kinds of humans. And I've always mentioned that it's my

1416
01:39:44.199 --> 01:39:48.760
<v Speaker 2>belief that Earth has gone through different environmental changes where

1417
01:39:49.159 --> 01:39:52.079
<v Speaker 2>perhaps the Earth was bumped out of its current orbit

1418
01:39:53.279 --> 01:39:56.199
<v Speaker 2>around the Sun and it had more or less gravity,

1419
01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>which would create giants, create beings with longer craniums longer

1420
01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:06.640
<v Speaker 2>or taller, or giants, so forth and so on, and

1421
01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:10.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's something to consider. It really is

1422
01:40:11.279 --> 01:40:15.520
<v Speaker 2>our environment being different. But I did mention the fact

1423
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:20.760
<v Speaker 2>that remote viewing is likely used in our government and

1424
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:27.720
<v Speaker 2>by our contemporaries other countries to detect alien activity today.

1425
01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Of course, we'll never know exactly what's going on until

1426
01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:34.640
<v Speaker 2>we do have a first contact scenario. You know, me,

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01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I gotta I want this scenario. I want the first

1428
01:40:37.720 --> 01:40:42.319
<v Speaker 2>contact scenario. I want it to happen. You know. It's funny, though,

1429
01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:47.439
<v Speaker 2>I hike out in the woods, and it might be

1430
01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:49.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of a good idea to kind of do an

1431
01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>intention to meet or to connect with an alien, especially

1432
01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the ones that are walking among us. I hadn't thought

1433
01:40:59.279 --> 01:41:01.600
<v Speaker 2>about that might be a way to do it so

1434
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:07.159
<v Speaker 2>that I get over my frustration. I intend to meet

1435
01:41:07.279 --> 01:41:14.359
<v Speaker 2>a alien being on my daily hike, or I intend

1436
01:41:14.359 --> 01:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to meet I intend to connect with some form of

1437
01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:27.439
<v Speaker 2>an alien, hybrid or being in my daily activities. I

1438
01:41:27.439 --> 01:41:29.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know if any of you guys remember when I

1439
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:34.920
<v Speaker 2>had Whitley Strieber on. He talked about connecting with hybrids

1440
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:42.640
<v Speaker 2>or aliens that were human looking and seeing them in

1441
01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:47.640
<v Speaker 2>stores and seeing them shopping, and he just felt their presence.

1442
01:41:48.319 --> 01:41:50.439
<v Speaker 2>There's a certain feeling that we get because you know,

1443
01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>we're although we're very nuns, still we're not using all

1444
01:41:54.039 --> 01:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>of our sensibilities or senses. We still could pick up

1445
01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:02.319
<v Speaker 2>an alien. You could probably fill different You're kind of

1446
01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:06.199
<v Speaker 2>like noticing something about that person. And what I'm saying

1447
01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:10.680
<v Speaker 2>noticing it's your psychic awareness, it's your you know, all

1448
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>of us have this ability. But I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>when you're close to an alien, likely even a hybrid,

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to pick up on them. You really

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<v Speaker 2>are so anyhow, how to talk to an alien? Fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you enjoy that. You might have heard it

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of the program. But we do tours.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a tour coming up at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year which is going to be our first ever

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<v Speaker 2>Guatemalan tour, which is the Sacred Temples of Guatemala. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a great tour because we actually climb the pyramids.

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<v Speaker 2>They have staircases that allows you to climb along the

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<v Speaker 2>side of them, the real tall and thin ones, and

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<v Speaker 2>in many cases you can use the actual stairs that

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<v Speaker 2>were intended to be used or were intended to access

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the pyramid. That is a great tour

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<v Speaker 2>not only because we access the temples in the pyramids,

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<v Speaker 2>but we also work with is shaman, the local Maya

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<v Speaker 2>shaman who can open these places vibrationally. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to learn more about that tour, go to earthasients dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>forward slash Tours check it out. That was only about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty people. We're filling up quickly and if you're interested,

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<v Speaker 2>come out and join us now. On the other tour

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<v Speaker 2>I want to mention is that we have our annual

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01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Egypt tour coming up at the end of April beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of May twenty twenty six, and this is for those

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<v Speaker 2>of you who have been with us on our past

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01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Egyptian tours, but also those of you who are new

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<v Speaker 2>and this is going to be a chance to interact

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<v Speaker 2>with temples, buildings, pyramids and also see the brand new

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<v Speaker 2>the brand new Memuia Museum, This one billion dollar museum

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<v Speaker 2>over two days. It's so huge, it's five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>square feet. It's a monster. It's five football fields long

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<v Speaker 2>and intense. For all the details, go to earth Agents

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<v Speaker 2>dot com forward slash tours. If you have any questions,

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<v Speaker 2>send me an email. Send it to Earth Ancients the

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<v Speaker 2>number four the letter you at gmail dot com. That's

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01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get right back to you. Tours are amazing. We make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you get a lot for your money. We're typically

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty to up up to around fifty percent off

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<v Speaker 2>the typical tours, and we want to make you we

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<v Speaker 2>want you to enjoy it as much as possible. So

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<v Speaker 2>Earth Ancients dot com forward slash tours. Right. That's it

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<v Speaker 2>for this program. And I think my guest today Nancy

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<v Speaker 2>do Tour, talking about her book How to Talk to

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<v Speaker 2>an Alien. That's always a team of Guil Tour, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. You guys

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<v Speaker 2>rock all right, take care of you well and we

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<v Speaker 2>will talk to you next time. O