Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.
Speaker 2: I have an undeniable interest in UFOs, all things alien
Speaker 2: first contact. If we have contact going on right now.
Speaker 2: You know, we've had guys like av Lobe talking about
Speaker 2: probes and he's getting millions of dollars to go and
Speaker 2: actually research down probes that have melted in our atmosphere.
Speaker 2: We talked about. I mean, he was just in recently
Speaker 2: talking about the probes off of the New Guinea Islands
Speaker 2: in the Pacific that he dredged up and discovered some
Speaker 2: very unusual metals and alloys that would make up these probes,
Speaker 2: things that you wouldn't typically see in an asteroid. And
Speaker 2: I mean he is somebody who is actually part of many,
Speaker 2: many conferences speaking on the academic side of alien contact,
Speaker 2: alien research, and very very much disclosing and very transparent
Speaker 2: about what he is experiencing and what he's finding. But
Speaker 2: as a past program director, I've had the pleasure of
Speaker 2: meeting people and working with people like Stanton Freeman, David Jacobs,
Speaker 2: Bud Hopkins. Hopkins who is very important when it came
Speaker 2: to the abduction experience. You had Whitley Streeber on the program,
Speaker 2: and also people like John mac and these are all
Speaker 2: research academic researchers who are really looking hard and the
Speaker 2: evidence behind contact. These are et types that are landing
Speaker 2: on our planet, that are interacting with people and in
Speaker 2: many cases leaving information where they came from, the state
Speaker 2: of our own planet, what the universe is all about,
Speaker 2: and in some cases the neighboring planets that have and
Speaker 2: have sustained and are sustaining life. Hey, this is Cliff
Speaker 2: your host of Destiny, and today the topic is communicating
Speaker 2: with aliens. And this is something I've been fascinating with
Speaker 2: for many, many years, to the point where when I
Speaker 2: first started Destiny and also the other podcasts Earth Ancients
Speaker 2: and Earth Ancients Special Special Edition in the Archives, I
Speaker 2: wanted to do a podcast on speaking with aliens and
Speaker 2: having aliens communicate. Now, we don't, we don't have that
Speaker 2: level of evolution yet. I don't think as a species
Speaker 2: we are ready for full blown contact. But what we
Speaker 2: are ready for our bits and pieces of it. And
Speaker 2: right now, and this has been going on for probably
Speaker 2: a good twenty plus years, there's a lot of channel data.
Speaker 2: These are people who go into a altered consciousness and
Speaker 2: they allow space beings to come and connect with us
Speaker 2: and speak to us, and people can ask questions of
Speaker 2: these people. Most notably, the most noted channel of an
Speaker 2: alien is darryl Anka, channeling the being known as Bashar
Speaker 2: and Bashar I think I can't remember what planet he's from,
Speaker 2: but this guy has been talking to people for God
Speaker 2: for decades, and you gotta wonder, is this really valid material? Well,
Speaker 2: apparently some of the material has been analyzed by scientists
Speaker 2: and it is shown to be valid, and we got
Speaker 2: to wonder, you know, those of us who are skeptical, Now,
Speaker 2: is this something that is from the mind of darryl Anka,
Speaker 2: the channel of this entity, this off world being named Bashar,
Speaker 2: Or is it Bashar from another planet communicating through daryld.
Speaker 2: I have had a number of channeled presenters at conferences.
Speaker 2: I haven't really had it on to Destiny, and I
Speaker 2: think I should, the reason being that I'm still on
Speaker 2: the fence about it and it's been something that I've
Speaker 2: studied and been a part of for many, many years.
Speaker 2: So I need to maybe open the valve a little
Speaker 2: bit and let one or two people come in and speak.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to think about that. But today's program
Speaker 2: is on communicating with ets, and I felt that in
Speaker 2: this time of our lives and we would be communicating
Speaker 2: with off world types in some form of another, either
Speaker 2: through radio astronomy, through some form of communication devices. And
Speaker 2: why this this is not happen is probably we're just
Speaker 2: not ready for it. And we've talked about this off
Speaker 2: and on that our military is to shoot first, ask
Speaker 2: questions later kind of mentality, and who wants to deal
Speaker 2: with that kind of human being that's going to shoot
Speaker 2: at you because they're afraid of you. We may have
Speaker 2: to have and this has been going on independent contexts
Speaker 2: for people from different parts of the world are contacted,
Speaker 2: are in some cases abducted, taken into craft and met
Speaker 2: with by various beings from different plants. Now, there are
Speaker 2: a number of books out there that are that have
Speaker 2: described face to face contact with alien types, alien species,
Speaker 2: and in some cases people are taken to their planet.
Speaker 2: They have the technology where if it's many lightly years away,
Speaker 2: it's they go through wormholes or whatever and they're there
Speaker 2: within an hour or two. And people have written about
Speaker 2: their experience on these planets. But I want to give
Speaker 2: you a sense of this program today because it's very
Speaker 2: important to me that we can have some form of
Speaker 2: contact with the aliens, with the species that meets with us.
Speaker 2: This eventuality, and it may be going on right now.
Speaker 2: It may be going on with our Department of Defense,
Speaker 2: It could be going on with the CIA, could be
Speaker 2: going on with Russians and other countries around the world.
Speaker 2: We don't know about it. We don't know about it
Speaker 2: because people still are would panic on something like that,
Speaker 2: they would be freaked out.
Speaker 3: We just don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't know how people will react. I want to
Speaker 2: play a short excerpt from darryl Anka channeling Boschard, and
Speaker 2: this is a segment where he's talking about open contact
Speaker 2: with ets. Let's have a quick listen.
Speaker 3: I'll take a dating of this day of your time.
Speaker 3: How are you all all right? All right, all right.
Speaker 3: We thank you for the co creation of this interaction.
Speaker 3: Once again, this is the beginning of the next phase
Speaker 3: of open contact for your planet. We thank you for participating.
Speaker 3: At this stage. We are going to talk about some
Speaker 3: of the different ways in which open contact may begin
Speaker 3: to occur on your world. We are going to talk
Speaker 3: about the idea of what you can do to accelerate
Speaker 3: this for your own experience. We are going to talk
Speaker 3: about the idea of what it means for your planet
Speaker 3: to experience the beginning stages of contact. Now, first and
Speaker 3: for most, we are going to consolidate some of the
Speaker 3: information we have been sharing with you for the last
Speaker 3: forty of your years. For forty years is the cycle
Speaker 3: of humanity, the amount of time that it usually takes
Speaker 3: for your society to go through one complete transformation from
Speaker 3: one thing to another. So here we are at the
Speaker 3: end of one cycle and the beginning of the next.
Speaker 3: We have for quite some time explained that the reason
Speaker 3: that the language coming through the channel often translates to
Speaker 3: the word we instead of I is because I am
Speaker 3: connected telempathically to many other beings, and therefore, in the
Speaker 3: flow of the information that is accessed and comes through,
Speaker 3: it is sometimes automatic for the channel's consciousness to simply
Speaker 3: interpret the collection of individuals in the plural form of we,
Speaker 3: since we are all participating and paying attention to what
Speaker 3: is going on on your planet. The idea is I am,
Speaker 3: and we are representative of a much larger group than
Speaker 3: many of you may imagine. This group contains not only
Speaker 3: other extraterrestrial beings, but spirit, guides, soul, families, angelic beings,
Speaker 3: interdimensional forms of consciousness, and so on. There are literally
Speaker 3: thousands upon thousands upon thousands of beings involved in these transmissions,
Speaker 3: thousands upon thousands of beings involved in different things going
Speaker 3: on on your planet, watching, observing, and in many ways participating.
Speaker 3: Hard participation is about to become more physical.
Speaker 2: I've seen other tapes of Bashard, and it's funny. When
Speaker 2: the energy comes through him, he kind of gets into
Speaker 2: a little convulsion, short many second convulsion, and then this
Speaker 2: entity known as Bashard the alien comes through and starts speaking.
Speaker 2: It's unique material, it really is. And I am, like
Speaker 2: I said before, I'm kind of on the fence about it,
Speaker 2: but we really need to have as much data as
Speaker 2: we can about off world types, and this is just
Speaker 2: another avenue. It's not what I really want. I want
Speaker 2: to see face to face. I mean, I would love
Speaker 2: to do a program that had different alien species who
Speaker 2: can communicate with us, talking about their experience, about their history,
Speaker 2: about their interactions with other species and the human species.
Speaker 2: So today's program features a sensitive someone who works with
Speaker 2: remote viewing and has worked with some of the top
Speaker 2: people in the UFO alien abduction field. So today's program
Speaker 2: is how to Talk to an Alien and my guest
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Speaker 2: always fascinated me. If many of you know, I've used
Speaker 2: to be the program director for Whole Life Expo and
Speaker 2: I had a whole track of people like John Mack
Speaker 2: and Whittie Streeber and David Jacob and one of my
Speaker 2: favorite regulars was a guy named Bud Hopkins, who was
Speaker 2: chronicling the abduction phenomenon with great detail, and every time
Speaker 2: he came on the show, it was something new, some
Speaker 2: other abductee who has probed medically but also left with
Speaker 2: some information about the aliens that were interacting with him.
Speaker 2: And our theme today is how to Talk to an
Speaker 2: Alien And my guest today is Nancy Duterire and she
Speaker 2: wrote this book a few years ago, and I have
Speaker 2: to tell you, I've been trying to get a hold
Speaker 2: of Nancy for a few years because I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about this and the material is so excellent because look,
Speaker 2: when it comes to communicating with an alien species, another race,
Speaker 2: it's critical that they understand our intentions, where we're coming from,
Speaker 2: and all the details. So I'm really happy to have
Speaker 2: Nancy on the program. She's also known as the Skeptical Psychic.
Speaker 2: She's a securitist litigation attorney. She's been on Coast to
Speaker 2: Coast with George Nori a number of different times and
Speaker 2: other podcasts. She wrote a couple of other books, including
Speaker 2: Psychic Intuition Everything You Ever Wanted to Ask But We're
Speaker 2: afraid to know there might be another book in there,
Speaker 2: and she's got a website that we'll talk about later.
Speaker 2: But the reason I'm having Nancy on the program is
Speaker 2: that this book is excellent. And by the way, you
Speaker 2: got to get a copy of it because she covers
Speaker 2: a lot of ground in it and it's a great read. So, Nancy,
Speaker 2: welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on the program.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. What a beautiful introduction. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I have to ask you, you're very,
Speaker 2: very intuitive, but you're also and I didn't mention this,
Speaker 2: you spent some time as a remote viewer. Were you
Speaker 2: trained at an institute or did you do the targ
Speaker 2: program at SRI back in the late eighties.
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm old, but I'm not quite that old. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so no, but I was. Ingo Swan was my mentor
Speaker 1: and I knew him for about ten years before he passed.
Speaker 1: And I trained into advanced CRV controlled remote viewing with
Speaker 1: Lynn Buchannan, who was you know Stargate program. I love Lynn,
Speaker 1: I think is fantastic. I'm also trained in Associate of
Speaker 1: Remote viewing Marty Rosenblat with his supplied pre Cognitive project,
Speaker 1: and I trained with Angela Thompson Smith or Smith Thompson,
Speaker 1: I away get her name backwards. She's fabulous. Did extended
Speaker 1: remote viewing with her. So I've done all of those,
Speaker 1: and then I've spent the last twelve years. What I
Speaker 1: did is I developed my own type of remote viewing
Speaker 1: because I was a little frustrated with some of those,
Speaker 1: so I created something called TSP. So I've been teaching
Speaker 1: TSP to students all over the world for the last
Speaker 1: twelve years. Oh interesting, Yeah, and well I'm literally right
Speaker 1: now as we sort of speak. I've worked for the
Speaker 1: last three years on creating a type of TSP remote
Speaker 1: viewing for autistics neurodivergence, and so I am now I'm current.
Speaker 1: I'm launching it this week actually, so, and it's involved
Speaker 1: sort of rearranging a lot of concepts in order to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: Why autistic people, I mean that would be an interesting challenge.
Speaker 2: But they are accessing unique parts of the brain. Do
Speaker 2: they have more accurate findings? Of course, you're going to
Speaker 2: give them a target right and longitude longitude longitude right
Speaker 2: longitude latitude. There we go, and then are they more
Speaker 2: adapt at certain targets or how does that work?
Speaker 1: If to generalize autistics have usually incredible intuitive capacities and
Speaker 1: psychic capacities. But because they have problems communicating, a lot
Speaker 1: of the time, they can't communicate them or they are
Speaker 1: disregarded or ignored or whatever, and they don't get channeled
Speaker 1: into the same kind of pathways that you know in
Speaker 1: remote viewing you use remotely it's a tool. So and
Speaker 1: you know, why do that now, because what's happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you go back to the beginning of the twentieth century,
Speaker 1: the definition of an autistic person was that they had schizophrenia.
Speaker 1: Right after that it turned into well, okay, it's they're
Speaker 1: not quite schizophrenic, but there's only children who are autistic,
Speaker 1: and then it turned into well, you know, there were
Speaker 1: very limited definitions, and right now the latest DSM is saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, this is the autistic autistic spectrum disorder. So
Speaker 1: what's happened is, in a very little amount of time,
Speaker 1: just a couple of decades, you have you know, one
Speaker 1: out of you know, two or three thousand people being
Speaker 1: autistic to right now it's one out of thirty. And
Speaker 1: for the children who will be born this year, okay,
Speaker 1: in their population, it'll be one out of two.
Speaker 2: Oh my, God, that many.
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, exactly. So I think to be able to
Speaker 1: do this and to offer this as a particular skill
Speaker 1: because it is a form of communication two people who
Speaker 1: have that different perspective, different way of looking at things
Speaker 1: and communicating with things, I think it's really important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, fantastic. I have heard of different groups and
Speaker 2: I can't name the specific individuals within those groups who
Speaker 2: are doing remote viewing. And I think I remember a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago there was a group that was
Speaker 2: targeting Mars and actually finding live beings underground. But also
Speaker 2: they went back a few thousand or maybe it was
Speaker 2: tens of thousands of years when Mars had an atmosphere,
Speaker 2: functional atmosphere, and they actually found beings very much like us.
Speaker 2: Have you done anything like that where you were able
Speaker 2: to target and was that kind of a lead into
Speaker 2: the book when you found if you did find aliens
Speaker 2: in their functions?
Speaker 1: Okay, so the short answer is no. When I first
Speaker 1: spoke with NGO, he was very pleased with the fact
Speaker 1: that he had done I think it was the Moon
Speaker 1: and Jupiter and he had done that. He didn't get
Speaker 1: feedback for seven years on it, but he finally did
Speaker 1: and it turned out that I think there were actually
Speaker 1: icy rings around Jupiter, and it was you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of his material was confirmed. And then the remote
Speaker 1: viewing community finally started to get larger and larger, and
Speaker 1: everybody sort of thought that that and I think it
Speaker 1: started in Stargate also with Ed Dames getting a little
Speaker 1: bit as the the guy who was giving the targets.
Speaker 1: He got a little bit crazy with his targets, but
Speaker 1: you know, and then he went off off planet with
Speaker 1: a lot of them. He that bothered a lot of
Speaker 1: the remote remote viewers at the time because they you know,
Speaker 1: how how are you supposed to get feedback? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's nice. Anybody can make up anything. I mean I
Speaker 1: always I'm a really creative person. I could say anything
Speaker 1: that would make a whole lot of sense. But is
Speaker 1: it real? I don't know. So there was that, and
Speaker 1: then there were you know, as the remote viewers you
Speaker 1: get into like the third and fourth generation remote viewers,
Speaker 1: they started to splinter off and it became like a
Speaker 1: really sexy thing to like, oh, let's go let's view
Speaker 1: the extraterrestrials, let's view the the you know, planets out there,
Speaker 1: and let's see what we could see, but I don't
Speaker 1: know where they're getting feedback. I think what you're talking
Speaker 1: about is something I actually spoke about in to the
Speaker 1: International UFO Congress quite a while ago, probably at least
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Joe mcmonagau was tasked at one point
Speaker 1: to view mores a million years ago, and so yes,
Speaker 1: he did see you know, beings undergrounds and sort of
Speaker 1: I think there was sort of pyramid like chambers, and
Speaker 1: there was destruction. There was a group that apparently had
Speaker 1: left the planet before total nuclear disaster. You know, he's
Speaker 1: sort of Now. What was interesting is that my my
Speaker 1: friend and colleague Tom McNair, who finally sort of I guess,
Speaker 1: came out of the remote viewing closet so to speak,
Speaker 1: and has you know, he's done his circuits around the country,
Speaker 1: but he also had done that, say, he'd been tasked
Speaker 1: with with the same you know, view what was happening
Speaker 1: on Mars million years ago, and his data was almost
Speaker 1: I mean, it's virtually identical to Joe's. Now, once you
Speaker 1: start getting that, I think then it starts at least
Speaker 1: getting interesting. Even though you don't have a direct confirmation.
Speaker 1: We may be getting some confirmations right now because there
Speaker 1: was a guy I forget his name who just recently
Speaker 1: I just read about this like a week ago, who
Speaker 1: is now scientifically determining that Mars was indeed the site
Speaker 1: of some type of a real bad nuclear disaster.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I read about that. He published somewhere an
Speaker 2: article about it. Yeah, I saw that on Facebook. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he kind of confirmed John Brandenburg's Who's doctor Brandenburg? Who
Speaker 2: his theory of a nuclear destruction and the xeon gas
Speaker 2: molecule that's left that's they're determining. Oh yeah, this is
Speaker 2: another scientist. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're You're right on track. So so, but
Speaker 1: my point is that, you know, it's it's okay to
Speaker 1: you know, spend some time viewing other planets and doing
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But for me, I am much
Speaker 1: more focused in what I do in trying to help
Speaker 1: people get much more mediate answers through you know, confirmation
Speaker 1: and feedbacks right on what I'm viewing.
Speaker 2: Right, So, talk a little bit about the opening of
Speaker 2: your book. Was it the and I didn't even know
Speaker 2: this here, I ever been in the field for a while.
Speaker 2: I think I knew the term exo linguistics, but communicating
Speaker 2: with off world types. I call them off world types
Speaker 2: because I don't like the word alien. Extraterrestrials just bothers
Speaker 2: me too. You know, it's almost like they're here already,
Speaker 2: so I just call them off world because they haven't
Speaker 2: started from here. But was the exo linguistics kind of
Speaker 2: an interest of yours and that kind of led into
Speaker 2: the writing of this book on how to communicate with
Speaker 2: off world types.
Speaker 1: Okay, so just real quick, I have throughout my entire
Speaker 1: career because I'm probably just an irritant to people, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have made a point. I know that when I
Speaker 1: was doing all my psychic training, everybody said, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not a psychic, I'm a sensitive because it didn't
Speaker 1: like the word psychic, okay, because it has sort of
Speaker 1: a bad, you know, fortune teller type of connotation. What
Speaker 1: I have attempted to desensitize people to the word psychic
Speaker 1: in a good way, so I'm not afraid of using
Speaker 1: that same way. People don't like to say ghosts because oh,
Speaker 1: that's just you know, you're making fun of the spirits.
Speaker 1: It's really a spirit. Okay, yeah, they's spirit, but they're
Speaker 1: also ghosts. I'm okay with a ghost yeah, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't like I mean, across the board,
Speaker 1: you name it, almost every term that's been developed in
Speaker 1: the UFO field. In fact, it's not even UFO anymore.
Speaker 1: It's u AP, I know. So you know, and and
Speaker 1: people don't like aliens. I was very well aware of
Speaker 1: that when I wrote the book how to Talk to
Speaker 1: an Alien Again. You know, I tell people, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: my husband's an alien. He's from France, So you know,
Speaker 1: that's okay with me. I don't mind. Alien just literally
Speaker 1: means means a stranger, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's all I know.
Speaker 1: I just say, same thing with contactee, experiencer, abductee. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can go through the whole litany of all that
Speaker 1: stuff too. So I just wanted to get that straight first. So, now,
Speaker 1: what was the rest of the question there?
Speaker 2: So, was it the linguistics side of it that you
Speaker 2: had read about that kind of launched your thoughts behind
Speaker 2: this book? And because we're going to get into the details,
Speaker 2: heur in a second. But I'm just wanting to get
Speaker 2: a sense of what ignited your interest in because writing
Speaker 2: a book's not a simple thing. It takes time and
Speaker 2: energy and research. But what was the motivation to write
Speaker 2: the book.
Speaker 1: The motivation was that, And it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a long story if you don't mind, but I went
Speaker 1: one night to This was in twenty eleven, in June
Speaker 1: of twenty eleven, when my then nineteen year old daughter,
Speaker 1: we went out to go see the movies locally in
Speaker 1: New Jersey. So we went to Parsepany to our local
Speaker 1: you know, cineplex or whatever it was we want. It
Speaker 1: was late at night, it was somewhere, I think it
Speaker 1: was a weeknight or something. And it's located in a
Speaker 1: big mall, big you know, with lots and lots of
Speaker 1: flat parking lots surrounded by two big high and we
Speaker 1: watched Midnight in Paris Woodie Ollan's Midnight in Paris, which
Speaker 1: is about going backwards in time. We get out of
Speaker 1: the movie theater and by the way, there was nobody
Speaker 1: in the theater with us. We get out of there,
Speaker 1: there's nobody in the entire building. Nobody, not even employees.
Speaker 1: There was nothing. It was very weird. We walked out
Speaker 1: into the parking lot. My daughter pointed up to the sky.
Speaker 1: She said, what's that? And I saw twenty or thirty
Speaker 1: orange lights sitting just sitting in the sky, and I thought, well,
Speaker 1: maybe something's reflecting off of clouds. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: looked all over the place, no, and eventually it became
Speaker 1: very clear. You could see the outline of a football
Speaker 1: field sized boomerang shaped craft covered in orange lights, simply sitting.
Speaker 1: It wasn't directly above us, it was slightly in a
Speaker 1: diagonal five hundred and two thousand feet up in the air.
Speaker 1: And eventually a giant white orb came off of one
Speaker 1: of the wings my fifteen twenty feet in diameter by
Speaker 1: my estimation, circled around like it was looking for something.
Speaker 1: When behind the craft came over telescoped, closed, gone, hoof
Speaker 1: like that, and then eventually the entire craft cloaked or
Speaker 1: de materialized in three phases. Wow, And my daughter was terrified.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I thought it was just the strangest thing
Speaker 1: I'd ever seen in the entire world. I had to
Speaker 1: know what that was. And then for the next it
Speaker 1: was roughly two years. Every time my daughter and I
Speaker 1: would get on the phone together. She was in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: I was in a Jersey, didn't matter if it was
Speaker 1: cell phone's, landlines, whatever. We would be talking and there
Speaker 1: would be an interruption by the strangest electronic sounding, booming
Speaker 1: voice I have ever heard, speaking an unknown language. And
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good with language. I know a bunch, and
Speaker 1: I can sort of work my way around others. And
Speaker 1: we could no longer hear each other, but we could
Speaker 1: both hear this voice, and it would speak to us,
Speaker 1: and it seemed to speak in phrases or sentences hard
Speaker 1: to tell. It was sounded like it was coming through
Speaker 1: a whole lot of major distortion. And this was not
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with, you know, a voice when you do distortion,
Speaker 1: distortion on a mechanical on a voice that it wasn't this,
Speaker 1: as far as I know, it certainly wasn't this. It
Speaker 1: was kind of a spooky sounding voice. It would talk
Speaker 1: one time, it said my daughter's name, and then it
Speaker 1: would hang up both of us simultaneously, and then neither
Speaker 1: of us would be able to call each other back
Speaker 1: for five to ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And eventually it started to happen between her and some
Speaker 1: of the phone calls with some of her friends, and
Speaker 1: it happened between me and some of my clients, one
Speaker 1: of them who heard it, And of course we couldn't
Speaker 1: call each other back. So she emails me. She's a
Speaker 1: well known psychotherapist, and she said, what the hell was that?
Speaker 1: And whatever the hell that was, that was not of
Speaker 1: this earth. It was really bizarre. So me, being sort
Speaker 1: of naturally curious and analytical and all that kind of stuff, well,
Speaker 1: what was that and why was that? And clearly, I
Speaker 1: mean it was obvious it was related to what we
Speaker 1: had seen. And I will tell you that. Several years later,
Speaker 1: I was awoken in the middle of the night. I'm
Speaker 1: a light sleeper, but I was woken up like that
Speaker 1: because telepathically I heard that voice, and I will I
Speaker 1: would recognize that voice anywhere. And I woke up and
Speaker 1: I thought, oh my goodness, first time they haven't used
Speaker 1: a telephone. That's interesting. Called up my daughter the next day,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, funny thing, I heard that voice
Speaker 1: last night telepathically. She said, Well, that's really weird, she said,
Speaker 1: because yesterday I was calling a friend of mine and
Speaker 1: trying to leave a message and that voice interfered on
Speaker 1: the message on the yeah, in the message, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's weird. It's weird. Now, would there be an ability
Speaker 1: for humans to do that? Maybe, But if you think
Speaker 1: about it, it's kind of unlikely. So I and then
Speaker 1: I had a elucid dream at some point where I
Speaker 1: was driving in my little I had a little hybrid car.
Speaker 1: I was driving locally when I lived in New Jersey
Speaker 1: to go pick up a friend of mine who lived
Speaker 1: about two minutes away from my house. So I stopped
Speaker 1: but uh, there's like a little a split in the road,
Speaker 1: and I stopped there and I'm waiting for her to
Speaker 1: come out and meet me. My car door opens on
Speaker 1: the passenger side, and what appeared to be a giant
Speaker 1: reptilian jumped in the car, and I'm sort of in
Speaker 1: a split second, I'm thinking, oh, oh no, this can't
Speaker 1: be good, and i have my hand on the door handle,
Speaker 1: but I'm looking at this being and it's looking me
Speaker 1: and at that moment, and this is very hard to describe,
Speaker 1: but it was as if our our gazes at each
Speaker 1: other had locked, and I could feel a sudden pressure
Speaker 1: on my head that it was like a like a
Speaker 1: vacuum seal, almost like it just went and I couldn't
Speaker 1: stop the I couldn't get out of that link. It
Speaker 1: was very weird. And this is in my dream. So
Speaker 1: and then I'm thinking, well, Okay, I'm kind of doomed.
Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, wait a second. You know,
Speaker 1: I've trained all these years to learn how to be psychic,
Speaker 1: so what was the point. So then I thought, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I want to break this link. So I did something
Speaker 1: that I can only describe as gathering plasma with my
Speaker 1: mind and I shot it back through this link and
Speaker 1: I broke the link, and that was I got out
Speaker 1: of it. But then I decided people need to know
Speaker 1: how powerful we are as humans. People are afraid that,
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned earlier, Well there at least, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I forget how many thousands of years you
Speaker 1: propose that they're you know, etens or aliens are more
Speaker 1: advanced than we are. Most people think they're more advanced.
Speaker 1: I think some are and some aren't. And I think
Speaker 1: some just have different skills which makes us think they're
Speaker 1: more advanced. Okay, but I started thinking about that, I think, well,
Speaker 1: how many people? So many people are scared of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to empower ourselves as humans. With our God
Speaker 1: given natural gifts we have, we can do this. So
Speaker 1: that's why I decided to go in and I wrote
Speaker 1: the book. I started teaching about this, and I started
Speaker 1: teaching remote viewing, particularly to help people to develop these fills.
Speaker 2: You bring up a very good point that we're afraid,
Speaker 2: but I think it's being afraid of the unknown our
Speaker 2: government and if they have a pr body or wing
Speaker 2: to their works, the duct Department or the Defense National
Speaker 2: Security Agency CIA, whatever, they don't want us to interact.
Speaker 2: It seems like they're doing everything they can to block
Speaker 2: our knowledge, ability, to communicate, our ability to want to
Speaker 2: know more. It's like there's a concerned effort, and I'm wondering,
Speaker 2: to your point, of our power if they know that
Speaker 2: we could work walk among these off world types quite easily,
Speaker 2: and they don't want that. So I mean, what do
Speaker 2: you say to that? Am I barking up the wrong tree?
Speaker 2: But you've spoken with a lot more experts and people
Speaker 2: in the field than me. You bring it up in
Speaker 2: the book, these different people who are going, you know,
Speaker 2: check it out, reach it out.
Speaker 1: Clearly. You know, if you go back eighty years obviously,
Speaker 1: end of World War Two, there was a couple of
Speaker 1: years where everything was wide open, and then the CIA
Speaker 1: was created, and I think that was if I'm remembering that,
Speaker 1: I think it was forty seven or a bunch of
Speaker 1: International Security Act and a bunch of things because the
Speaker 1: government got really worried about what was what it just happened,
Speaker 1: you know with Germany and with with Nazism and huge weapons.
Speaker 1: I mean, so they kind of and they suddenly clamped
Speaker 1: down on a whole lot of things because they didn't
Speaker 1: know who was doing what. And so yeah, they initially
Speaker 1: it was the Air Force and you had Project blue
Speaker 1: Book and you know all that kind of stuff. Won't
Speaker 1: do the whole history on it. But so I think
Speaker 1: what happened because they had to create the ridicule factor
Speaker 1: so they couldn't get out of it. How do you
Speaker 1: get out of once you've made everybody look like an
Speaker 1: idiot if they, you know, talk about seeing a UAP
Speaker 1: a UFO, you know, how do you then go back
Speaker 1: and say, well, actually, no, that's that's a good point.
Speaker 1: You're right. How do you do that without yourself looking
Speaker 1: like an idiot?
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: So I think they got stuck big time, and so
Speaker 1: I will in that respect, I'm going to give them
Speaker 1: the benefit of doubt on that. I think there's certain
Speaker 1: things that obviously are being withheld for sure, you know, technologies,
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but in terms of sightings, I think
Speaker 1: they're at a place now where it's pretty obvious that
Speaker 1: they have to admit to a certain amount of being defenseless.
Speaker 1: And that's the last thing you want to do if
Speaker 1: you are a representative of military or intel. You don't
Speaker 1: want to admit that you can't do a damn thing.
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Speaker 2: with my guest today, Nancy Dutour discussing her book How
Speaker 2: to Talk to an Alien. Will be right back. My
Speaker 2: guest today is Nancy Dutors. She has written a book
Speaker 2: called How to Talk to an Alien, and she is
Speaker 2: giving us insights on the different communication techniques that are
Speaker 2: available to us, what we know about off world types,
Speaker 2: and what the future holds for communication. The Brookies Institute
Speaker 2: a document that was requisitioned in nineteen sixty by Believe
Speaker 2: just as I think it was a Department of Defense
Speaker 2: before they turned into NASA. They asked the Brooking Institute
Speaker 2: how would people react to first contact? Right? And basically
Speaker 2: Brookings wrote this or described the psychological profile of the
Speaker 2: typical United States citizen as going crazy as suicidal, as
Speaker 2: killing themselves, as systems failing, as religions going up the window.
Speaker 2: And that's you know, in the nineteen sixties when that
Speaker 2: was requisitioned, and then most recently, I think three years ago,
Speaker 2: the Department of Defense did the same thing, or maybe
Speaker 2: it was the Pentagon and they asked They got a
Speaker 2: group of theologians, rabbis, priests, Protestants, pastors and asked the
Speaker 2: same question and they said the same damn thing. People
Speaker 2: would kill themselves, religions would go out the way. We
Speaker 2: don't think it's a good idea. What kind of idiots
Speaker 2: go to the I mean this shows us I think
Speaker 2: I want your opinion rather than going to social media
Speaker 2: outlets where everybody's discussing current events and testing the waters
Speaker 2: on all kinds of different theories, and I think providing
Speaker 2: a real refreshing look at the whole phenomenon of UAPs,
Speaker 2: an alien super alien surveying the earth. You know, it's
Speaker 2: kind of asked backwards that they would go to the
Speaker 2: church rather than social media. And the point I'm trying
Speaker 2: to make is, of course you're going to get a
Speaker 2: negative outlet point of view, and they're not gonna They're
Speaker 2: not refreshing the possibilities of people going Yes, I really
Speaker 2: wanted to know what's going I really want to meet
Speaker 2: with these people. I love to see them come down
Speaker 2: on their ships and say, you are part of a collective.
Speaker 2: I'm from planet X, you're from Earth. By the way,
Speaker 2: we visited you thousands of years ago, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and you're a hybrid. You know. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 2: spinning the wheel too much of it. But what do
Speaker 2: you think of that that analysis that the Department of
Speaker 2: Defense got from the church.
Speaker 1: I think that if you go to somebody who owns
Speaker 1: a store and sells certain products and say, listen, let's
Speaker 1: just you know my people that your customers out there,
Speaker 1: really what they want to do is they just want
Speaker 1: to barter with some stuff. You know. Is that what
Speaker 1: that worked for you? The answer is going to be no.
Speaker 1: The Church, like any other human business, is in business.
Speaker 1: I know people don't like to hear that it's a
Speaker 1: business that is built on spiritual thoughts and values. I
Speaker 1: understand that it's still a business. It always has been,
Speaker 1: and people get very very invested in it. The same thing.
Speaker 1: I have the same issue with ideal for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I have been dealing with scientists for several decades now and
Speaker 1: getting them to understand what I'm talking about, usually in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, psychic paranormal phenomena. Okay, is it's
Speaker 1: for many of them, I'm going to say, the vast majority,
Speaker 1: they really really have trouble with it. And the answer
Speaker 1: is because they're in a business. Science is a business.
Speaker 1: It's built on certain rules and regulations and authorities which
Speaker 1: govern jobs and money. Same problem if you get into
Speaker 1: the whole you know, extraterrestrial you know what, if they
Speaker 1: show up type of a thing, you you should, as
Speaker 1: I think you're saying, absolutely rightly, you should go. They
Speaker 1: should have done this a long time ago. Go directly
Speaker 1: to just regular folks who've been looking at UFOs now
Speaker 1: for decades, actually centuries actually probably millennia and reporting them
Speaker 1: as best they can in whatever way they can, because
Speaker 1: that's not hasn't been built into a business, okay. And
Speaker 1: what people have done, and I think it's it's been
Speaker 1: really interesting to watch over the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: is they have the general population has finally gotten around
Speaker 1: to saying, oh, maybe there are you know, these funny
Speaker 1: things called you know, UAPs, UFOs, extraterrestrials, you know, non
Speaker 1: humans because you know why, because military says so, and
Speaker 1: these whistleblowers from the military. Military is another business.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's it's really hard to tell people that other
Speaker 4: people have natural authority to talk about these things.
Speaker 1: And I think that's been a real problem. I agree
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. Let's talk about this book. You opened the
Speaker 2: book discussing the humans feeble attempts to reach out and connect,
Speaker 2: and I want to open with the Drake's equation. Frank
Speaker 2: Drake and Accord and other scientists thought that they could
Speaker 2: use a Carl Sagan right, a radio telescope to broadcast
Speaker 2: signals and equations out into space, hoping that someone would
Speaker 2: find them. It was a needle in a haystack. But
Speaker 2: that was our first I think that's the first way
Speaker 2: documented attempt to connect with an alien species. But talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: I think that was called the Aricibo message, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it was sent out. They've figured it was. It was
Speaker 1: based on a binary code based on ten digits, and
Speaker 1: they sent out information about you know, who we are human,
Speaker 1: what we kind of look like, what our DNA has
Speaker 1: made of, and something I think about our I've forgotten
Speaker 1: what else, the planet itself or some of the chemical compositions.
Speaker 1: So and they sent it out. The figure was going
Speaker 1: to take twenty five thousand years to get a response
Speaker 1: because it was going to go to the nearest star system,
Speaker 1: I think, right, And you know, but what the hecket's
Speaker 1: worth a shot? And what they didn't anticipate, And this
Speaker 1: is what I talked about, is that you know, it
Speaker 1: came back. I think I forget how many years it was.
Speaker 2: Uh, it went out in nineteen seventy four, and it
Speaker 2: came back in two thousand and one. Yeah, in the
Speaker 2: form of a crop circle, right, which was very weird
Speaker 2: that you would find that because I don't know where
Speaker 2: that's documented, but that's an amazing piece of reflection. And
Speaker 2: everybody said that the crop circle was bs right because
Speaker 2: at that time, I guess they were a lot of
Speaker 2: fake crop circle people out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think since then some of the
Speaker 1: attitude about crop circles has changed. But people don't talk
Speaker 1: about crop circles anymore. It's almost like they've they came
Speaker 1: in and out of our awareness. They were bringing messages
Speaker 1: and they some of them could actually be decoded as
Speaker 1: mathematical equations, scientific explanations for things. The question is was
Speaker 1: it you know, was it real? Was it real? And
Speaker 1: that's so you have a confirmation in a sense, but
Speaker 1: you're not sure if it's genuine or authentic. And that's
Speaker 1: constantly been our problem. I think you have to start
Speaker 1: judging what's authentic by different criteria and then maybe start
Speaker 1: matching it up with other data that you have, but
Speaker 1: to dismiss it right off the bat, I mean, I
Speaker 1: knew I knew a A and this long time ago
Speaker 1: when I met him, this is a crop circle maker.
Speaker 1: He was British. He was so excited that he you know,
Speaker 1: he had sold all of his belongings. He'd gone down
Speaker 1: to that oh that, you know, the Salisbury area, and
Speaker 1: you know, so he could hang out with apparently you
Speaker 1: know this these these people, and he said, what he
Speaker 1: discovered was that it was a lot of humans making them,
Speaker 1: and so it was terribly disappointed. But then what he
Speaker 1: disc govered was things like, you know, the the lights
Speaker 1: that go over the crop circles and it's almost like
Speaker 1: they're drawing them with invisible pens. It's it's really interesting.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but he started to discover that he
Speaker 1: would dream about a particular creating a particular type of
Speaker 1: a crop circle, and that that same night there would
Speaker 1: be several others crop circle makers who would have the
Speaker 1: same image in their dreams. So, in other words, there's
Speaker 1: something larger. It's a it involves consciousness. I believe that's
Speaker 1: going on. And you can't sort of throw that stuff
Speaker 1: away and say, well, okay, that means you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's no aliens because it's just humans doing this. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's a collaborative effect. I know, I know
Speaker 1: that you can do phenomenal things, have make impressions on
Speaker 1: our physical reality using consciousness. Okay, And that's a whole
Speaker 1: huge topic.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You also extend the idea that it's possible that
Speaker 2: the NSA, which is the National Security Agency of the
Speaker 2: United States, has been sending out and perhaps receiving data
Speaker 2: from other civilizations, other worlds, and you provide a reference
Speaker 2: of a friend or an acquaintance. I think his last
Speaker 2: name was Champagne. I could be saying it wrong, who
Speaker 2: was a encryption specialist who wrote an article that you
Speaker 2: talk about, and he suspects that the NSA may be
Speaker 2: trying to decrypt that's the right word.
Speaker 1: Now. No, he worked for the NSA. His name is
Speaker 1: doctor Howard Companion.
Speaker 2: Excuse me and talk about him, because he did. He
Speaker 2: write a white paper or a scientific paper where he
Speaker 2: theorized what was going on.
Speaker 1: It was a declassified article. It was called Key to
Speaker 1: the Extraterrestrial Messages. He was one of the top government
Speaker 1: cryptographers okay at the time, and so he was able
Speaker 1: to decrypt it and figure out at least some of
Speaker 1: the messaging that was coming back, and it apparently had
Speaker 1: to do with kind of things you would imagine. There
Speaker 1: were questions about chemistry and mining, you know, materials, so
Speaker 1: that there are apparently some groups of extraterrestrials whose primary
Speaker 1: interest is just trading with us. You have others who
Speaker 1: are very interested, for example, in water and my mentor
Speaker 1: in ghost One had talked about that in his I
Speaker 1: think it was in his book Penetration, which was sort
Speaker 1: of a fictionalized, kind of a realistic type of account.
Speaker 1: But since then, it's quite well known that people will
Speaker 1: see UFOs UAPs directly above, for example, bodies of water, lakes, reservoirs,
Speaker 1: the ocean, and it's been suggested that actually they are
Speaker 1: taking water. Maybe you know, that's their bottle of water
Speaker 1: they're taking on the trip to the next planet. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But the story that I told you about
Speaker 1: about the experience of seeing that boomerang shaped huge craft,
Speaker 1: we were right across the street from a reservoir. So
Speaker 1: there's an interest in earthly materials probably, so that doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me at all.
Speaker 2: You just brought up something and I thought was interesting
Speaker 2: that I hadn't heard before you in the book, right
Speaker 2: about Clifford Stone. I met Clifford. He was a regular
Speaker 2: in the UFO community. But he speculated that there were
Speaker 2: between four and eighty two different species of aliens that
Speaker 2: were interacting with humans. And when I hear that, it's
Speaker 2: like four and eighty two, what do you I mean,
Speaker 2: that's an amazing number.
Speaker 1: Actually, since then, they've they've speculated that it's more. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're more. They have speculated in terms of what I've heard.
Speaker 1: And now I've forgotten where I have heard this or
Speaker 1: read this, that there are six basic species that are
Speaker 1: currently visiting I don't know if that's you know, I've
Speaker 1: forgotten where I got that information, but certainly people have
Speaker 1: talked about there being you know, well, over one hundred now,
Speaker 1: And of course that would make sense because now we
Speaker 1: have more general interest, we get more people describing these
Speaker 1: things and reporting them.
Speaker 2: So of course, yeah, you know, And the thing that
Speaker 2: I've always been curious about is that if our government
Speaker 2: was contacted, you know, and there's a story of Eisenhower,
Speaker 2: President Eisenhower being wisked out to the desert in California
Speaker 2: and meeting with the alien race and an agreement was
Speaker 2: made that you could come and take resources in exchange
Speaker 2: for technology. I don't know if that's true, and nobody
Speaker 2: knows who can verify it, but it's a great story.
Speaker 2: But if we have a contract with alien groups, and
Speaker 2: this is what's an interesting about your book, how are
Speaker 2: we communicating with them? And one of the big items
Speaker 2: that comes up when we study the abduction phenomenon when
Speaker 2: these people are taken on board, is that telepathy is
Speaker 2: the most easy to use and easy to easy to
Speaker 2: communicate a tool that is used in the abduction experience.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I'm thinking back, you know who Budda
Speaker 2: Hopkins is and David Jacobs, all these guys who are
Speaker 2: reporting I think, and I am thinking back to John
Speaker 2: Mack in his wonderful book called The Abductions. I think
Speaker 2: that the general theme is telepathy because it's a lot
Speaker 2: easier and it might help people calm down from being
Speaker 2: freaked out about being taken on the craft. But what's
Speaker 2: your feeling on first contact and not physically speaking but
Speaker 2: communicating through a higher consciousness?
Speaker 1: A few things. When I wrote the book How to
Speaker 1: Talk to an Alien, and I suggested that there were
Speaker 1: many reported ways to communicate, one of them being telepathically. Okay, people,
Speaker 1: particularly experiences that kind of saying got a little irritated because,
Speaker 1: you know, they all felt that, you know, really it's
Speaker 1: just telepathic. And what I discovered was, no, it's not
Speaker 1: just telepathic. To let these great and by the way,
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons. You know, in these contact experiences,
Speaker 1: experiencers regularly talk about you know, how you know their
Speaker 1: thoughts are being read or they are receiving the thoughts
Speaker 1: of whoever you know, the entities are. And what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do in teaching people well how to expand
Speaker 1: their psychic abilities, skills and consciousness is that's great if it,
Speaker 1: but that's a one way transmission. Really, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to I want to teach people how to do a
Speaker 1: two way transmission. I want us to read their thoughts. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's communication. So so yes, you can do it. And
Speaker 1: and by the way, you have so many different species
Speaker 1: of uh, multidimensionals, ets, intradimensionals, whatever. You have so many
Speaker 1: of them. They're using different tools to communicate. And I
Speaker 1: talk about that in the book because I talk about
Speaker 1: some of them are actually they've got like little switches
Speaker 1: on their helmets and things that they're just like it's
Speaker 1: almost like they're now, we've almost got that pretty much.
Speaker 2: We're getting close. Yeah, yeah, we're really close. Translation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you gotta do switch language. And there
Speaker 1: was one example that I gave. It is from a
Speaker 1: long time ago where they you know, they started out
Speaker 1: the ets started out I think it was Cardenis, but
Speaker 1: it started out, uh, you know, German language, and you know,
Speaker 1: the the the contact he said, no, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't speak German. They just think they speak English. No
Speaker 1: I don't speak English. They adjusted again and they speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I don't. So then they start communicating.
Speaker 1: You have others that got they have little mouthpieces where
Speaker 1: apparently they can speak with that. Some of them carry
Speaker 1: equipment that apparently acts as some form of a translator.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of mechanical ways to do this,
Speaker 1: and I think some species are using those. Others preferred telepathy.
Speaker 1: Some of them do a mix, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: like a lot of people do. So I mean, and
Speaker 1: telepathy is great. I do talk about how and most
Speaker 1: people never think about this that you can actually have
Speaker 1: mistakes in communication if you're using telepathy. And I used
Speaker 1: the Betty Andresen example where they wanted what was it
Speaker 1: was something? It was something like fire or meat or
Speaker 1: a trial or something, I forget the words, something with fire.
Speaker 1: So she goes to cook the meat because she thinks
Speaker 1: they're hungry. They said no, no, no, no, and then
Speaker 1: telepathically they sort of try to read us and she
Speaker 1: finally figures out no, they're talking about a sort of
Speaker 1: a trial by fire. So she picks up the Bible.
Speaker 1: That's what they wanted. They wanted to copy the Bible. Okay,
Speaker 1: And there are a bunch of examples. You would think
Speaker 1: that with telepathy, oh it's perfect communication, and no, not always.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love your example of devices. You actually have
Speaker 2: a couple of examples. One guy was taken and it
Speaker 2: was a Finnish guy from Finland and they used the
Speaker 2: device to figure out who he was from, and he communicated.
Speaker 2: And then there was an English guy and a German
Speaker 2: who they were using tech to speak with him. And
Speaker 2: these technical devices I think they were handheld. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of sad that if there are eighty hundred
Speaker 2: different species who are here who are observing us, what
Speaker 2: do we consider them? Are they professional anthropologists and they're
Speaker 2: studying human beings? I mean, it's getting to the point
Speaker 2: where it's almost ridiculous that they can't come out or
Speaker 2: and I'm interested in your thinking about this, is there
Speaker 2: some official agreement with the presidents, with the powers that
Speaker 2: be years ago, decades ago, that they will will not
Speaker 2: interact with the human species until a certain time or
Speaker 2: a certain event, or I mean, it must. It's getting ridiculous,
Speaker 2: it really is. You know, I'd say the same thing
Speaker 2: to av Low, but every time he was on the program.
Speaker 2: You know, they're sending probes to observe the earth. Well,
Speaker 2: god damn it, forget the probes, come on down and
Speaker 2: say hi.
Speaker 1: I think that what a lot of people are looking
Speaker 1: for is because we think like humans, we recognize like
Speaker 1: little beings that have arms and legs, or tall beings
Speaker 1: and they have you know, heads and hams, and that
Speaker 1: we kind of get. It's like, yeah, some they're there,
Speaker 1: and why don't they come talk to us. I think
Speaker 1: what people don't get is they link in appreciating their
Speaker 1: presence that is very much linked with our consciousness. And
Speaker 1: I give an example. I had just moved up here
Speaker 1: to Connecticut three years ago, and so I turned onto
Speaker 1: our road. It's a very dark little road, country road,
Speaker 1: and my husband was sitting in the passenger seat in
Speaker 1: the front, and I turned the car and I look
Speaker 1: up to my right and there's that little house up
Speaker 1: there on the corner and surrounded by some trees, and
Speaker 1: there was, all of the sudden, a huge, huge flash
Speaker 1: of brilliant neon blue light, like a fireball, and it
Speaker 1: was traveling very fast horizontally. It was about roughly the
Speaker 1: treetops okay, but I'm saying like roughly thirty feet up,
Speaker 1: and it had it left as it traveled, it lit
Speaker 1: up the whole area, and it left a comet trail
Speaker 1: that was maybe twenty feet long.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then like that it's gone. And as it's doing
Speaker 1: its thing, and I'm driving, but I'm staring at this
Speaker 1: thing and I said, wow, well do you see that?
Speaker 1: Do you see that? My husband couldn't see it. He
Speaker 1: saw nothing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And that is typical. Now why would that be? I think?
Speaker 1: And you know, I have many examples of when you
Speaker 1: have several people who some of them will see the
Speaker 1: craft or the beings and some will not. Okay, that
Speaker 1: also works because I have done a lot of work
Speaker 1: in the paranormal investigation field. That's also typical in that field,
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with spirits and ghosts and you know,
Speaker 1: presence of different some people will see them and experience them,
Speaker 1: and some people it's like they're not even there.
Speaker 2: Well, let's stop for a minute, Nancy, let's expand on that.
Speaker 2: Is it because the beans or the phenomenon is directing
Speaker 2: it just for certain people's observation. Is it because the
Speaker 2: people are open to the observation and the experience. What else?
Speaker 2: What else could it be?
Speaker 1: If you want to look at it like a form
Speaker 1: of communication, then they would be targeting a particular individual.
Speaker 1: If you want to look at it as our abilities
Speaker 1: to perceive, then it's our job to be able to
Speaker 1: expand our consciousness to a place where we can actually
Speaker 1: perceive that kind of information, and that's what I look for.
Speaker 1: It's a very good question you're asking, because it's hard
Speaker 1: to know the difference. And the way that I have
Speaker 1: in watching these situations sort of studying them, is it's
Speaker 1: usually the people who have some type of an ability
Speaker 1: to perceive who will see them. Ah. And you know,
Speaker 1: it reminds me of when I was fifteen years old,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why this still sticks in my head,
Speaker 1: but I was with my little teenage friends and we're all,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about you know, ghosts, and it was
Speaker 1: ooh so scary and fun and whatever. And I suddenly
Speaker 1: said to this little group, I said, yeah, but what
Speaker 1: if they're all around us all the time, like right now?
Speaker 1: And that kind of shut down the conversation. But I
Speaker 1: never forgot that. And by the way, how do we
Speaker 1: know that we are not constantly surrounded? And let's say,
Speaker 1: you know, they talk about quantum dimensions. You know, that's
Speaker 1: with physicists. That's a big thing going on with the
Speaker 1: physicists right now, as well as our larger you know,
Speaker 1: different dimensions or multiple dimensions. Okay, well that would mean
Speaker 1: and when I go, for example, on a I do
Speaker 1: a lot of mediumship on paranormal events and that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. If I go to a place, I'll feel
Speaker 1: time as in the same location, okay, the same space,
Speaker 1: but I will feel time is being sandwiched all over
Speaker 1: the place. In other words, it's all crunched into the
Speaker 1: same location but different time zones, and I can I
Speaker 1: feel it, and I perceive it, and I can gather
Speaker 1: information that way.
Speaker 2: So maybe my thinking of a group sighting or a
Speaker 2: unveiling in other words, they land their ship is too
Speaker 2: out of touch, and that's not how they work. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're working at slowly identifying themselves to a certain group,
Speaker 2: and as we individually evolve and open our consciousness to
Speaker 2: the other possibilities, it sifts down to them, to the
Speaker 2: newer multitudes who are preparing. So then everybody may not
Speaker 2: be ready yet. So I don't know. I keep saying,
Speaker 2: just land your damn ships and come out and shake
Speaker 2: my hand. But maybe I'm not ready for that. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's too much. Maybe the even thought of that is
Speaker 2: part of me is like, oh yeah, sure, you could
Speaker 2: that all happen, But if it actually did happen, I'd
Speaker 2: go run for the hills.
Speaker 1: Well, you have a whole other problem, which is if
Speaker 1: you're dealing with physical, you know, material entities as opposed
Speaker 1: to purely non physical You know, everybody has said, I
Speaker 1: mean all the time people, Well, you know, you take
Speaker 1: your typical skeptic. Why don't they land on the line
Speaker 1: of the White House? I mean, what's the problem, just
Speaker 1: you know, show up? Well, yeah, yeah, they did kind
Speaker 1: of almost in nineteen fifty two. They flew all over
Speaker 1: the White House.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 1: People flipped out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: People, you know everything military goes on high alert. I mean,
Speaker 1: would you fly into that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, how do you deal with that if you're
Speaker 2: a stone age military. We're going to take a commercial
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Speaker 2: book How to Talk to an Alien, will rejoin you shortly.
Speaker 2: My guest today is Nancy Detour. She has written a
Speaker 2: book called How to Talk to an Alien, and we're
Speaker 2: learning just what she discovered from the past, our historical
Speaker 2: evidence of abductions and communication with off world types, and
Speaker 2: what we can expect today. I want to talk real
Speaker 2: quickly more on history. You talked about the abductive phenomenon,
Speaker 2: and we really do learn from abductees that have written
Speaker 2: about their experience being on ships communicating with advanced species
Speaker 2: of beings. But talk a little bit about some of
Speaker 2: the early abduction experiences. There's one that you feature in
Speaker 2: the book, the sixteenth century Chinese abductee actually was in
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty eight. He was a Stonemason and he was
Speaker 2: taking aboard and they actually did some medical experience experiments
Speaker 2: on the poor guy, and talk about that. It's just
Speaker 2: the most amazing story.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that I may not remember this.
Speaker 2: I can fill it in for you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think you had said that whatever I
Speaker 1: had written about this particular story, they had removed his heart.
Speaker 2: They removed his heart, and he was looking at them
Speaker 2: doing it, so he was conscious and they I guess
Speaker 2: they were inspecting him in some manner. It was just
Speaker 2: at the end of stay.
Speaker 1: I know people who have been abducted who say that
Speaker 1: during you know, as they're lying on the metal slab
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, that and being restrained, that they
Speaker 1: had their entire eyeballs removed. And I kept saying, well,
Speaker 1: weren't you worried. I mean no, no, there was no problem. Really.
Speaker 1: Oh man, So yeah, apparently that is you know, it's
Speaker 1: a thing. And by the way, think about it also
Speaker 1: the well, I mean certain certain organs, the brain. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are no nerve endings on that. People do brain
Speaker 1: surgeries with no anesthesia. And if you have a way,
Speaker 1: let's say of some how, let's say telepathically calming whatever
Speaker 1: the nerve pathways are in your abducted person, they may
Speaker 1: not feel anything. And since we are not just physical entities,
Speaker 1: we're like hybrids. All of us were physical and non physical.
Speaker 1: The non physical I guess can go, you know, waltzing
Speaker 1: around saying, yeah, I'm cool with this.
Speaker 2: But what kind of technology would allow a species to
Speaker 2: remove a human's heart. The guy's still alive looking at
Speaker 2: them manipulating his heart, and he's just fascinated. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's so out of control. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not as ridiculous as you think it is.
Speaker 1: Think about think about open heart surgery. Yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: once was in the elevator with the guy who was
Speaker 1: the first guy to do open heart surgery. But anyway
Speaker 1: you remove the heart, it's out of the body. And
Speaker 1: if the person is having any type of anything like
Speaker 1: a near death experience or an out of body experience,
Speaker 1: they could be just running around the room or up
Speaker 1: on the ceiling saying, yeah, this is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, the consciousness is outside of the body.
Speaker 2: The other thing that was unique about it is this Stonemason,
Speaker 2: this Chinese stone Mason, was taken to their planet, their
Speaker 2: red planet. And you talk about that, and I mean,
Speaker 2: this is in fifteen twenty eight. It's christ you actually documented.
Speaker 2: I was just like so amazed. I had never heard
Speaker 2: of an abductee chronicled abduction chronicle in such a way
Speaker 2: like that. It was just amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've forgotten how I'd found that. I did a
Speaker 1: lot of research. I've forgotten how I found it. But
Speaker 1: I was also for the same I was kind of amazed.
Speaker 1: I'd never heard of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another one that you and this is this is
Speaker 2: not unnecessarily non typical. In nineteen fifty seven are Brazilian
Speaker 2: the mentonio velispor Uh was taken on a ship and
Speaker 2: he was forced to have a sexual act with one
Speaker 2: of the aliens. That theme has happened. I've heard of
Speaker 2: this happen before where a human is forced or cajoled,
Speaker 2: cajoled into having a sex act with an alien female
Speaker 2: for the purpose of pro creation. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and women too. It is not just the guys.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a whole lot of sex going on
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: Just just totally amazing. One thing that I want to
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about this is that there are
Speaker 2: a number of races that look very much like Earth humans,
Speaker 2: you know, the Nordic type, the Caucasian type. And there's
Speaker 2: been a number of authors that I've spoken with, a
Speaker 2: number of presenters that have chronicled the fact that they
Speaker 2: walk among us quite quite comfortably. And that's another one
Speaker 2: of those ideas where are like, okay, you're walking among us,
Speaker 2: just spill the beans and say, hey, we're here. Of course,
Speaker 2: that might that might be a problem because if they're
Speaker 2: walking around, then they're outed and then people are running
Speaker 2: running after them and could cause harm. But just that
Speaker 2: whole understanding that they are so closely, they look so
Speaker 2: close like us, that they're walking around, it's just amazing.
Speaker 2: And you give some examples of that, but just the
Speaker 2: whole thought that they're here, you know, they're here, and
Speaker 2: they have been for for who knows how long. What's
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: Of course, I've always wondered about that, because you wonder
Speaker 1: if people are exaggerating and they feel just because somebody
Speaker 1: looks or feels a little funky to them, that oh,
Speaker 1: they must be an alien. Well maybe maybe not. I
Speaker 1: think you need a little bit more than that. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you a personal story if you if you want
Speaker 1: always okay. So, so Ngo had always in his Penetration
Speaker 1: book talked about and most people know this story. He
Speaker 1: finds this incredibly gorgeous, voluptuous, you know, woman who's standing
Speaker 1: there as he's trying to hit it, said that like
Speaker 1: the fresh pride section of some supermarket, and you know,
Speaker 1: he knew instantly that she was not from here. And
Speaker 1: I always wondered about that, Well, how would he know instantly?
Speaker 1: What does that feel like? Why would you know that
Speaker 1: if they looked just like us? Okay, So fast forward
Speaker 1: many like a couple decades. All right, and I'm in
Speaker 1: the supermarket now. I'm sure I wanted to reach something
Speaker 1: that was in the fresh produce section, but very high up.
Speaker 1: So there's this tall woman next to me. She's very tall, beautiful,
Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous you know, blonde hair, perfectly quaffed. She was
Speaker 1: wearing unlike everyone else who ever went into that supermarket,
Speaker 1: you know, all of the moms, the housewives, whoever was doing,
Speaker 1: the women in there, they're generally going in their sweat
Speaker 1: pants with their yoga stuff, and you know, it's in
Speaker 1: and out. Let's get this over with. She was dressed
Speaker 1: in a gorgeous it looks like something straight out of
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties. It was cinched at the waist. It
Speaker 1: was white with what looked like giant maybe red flowers,
Speaker 1: roses or something designed with a big flouncy sort of
Speaker 1: skirt part of the dress and a big red belt.
Speaker 1: I mean, she could have been on the cover of
Speaker 1: like Look magazine or something from Waybeck or And I said,
Speaker 1: you know, would you mind could you help me? I'm
Speaker 1: trying to reach that And she says, oh, no problem,
Speaker 1: she reaches, she gives it to me, and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. She said, not a problem. And
Speaker 1: then I because I told you, I listened to language,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, you know, you seem to have
Speaker 1: a little bit of an accent. Where are you from?
Speaker 1: And she said, oh, you know it doesn't matter. No one,
Speaker 1: nobody's ever heard of it. I said, yeah, try me.
Speaker 1: She says, I'm from Latvia.
Speaker 2: Latvia.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I've been there, so I know what Latvian's
Speaker 1: look like. I didn't say that, but yeah. So anyway,
Speaker 1: so I take my one piece of produce, whatever it
Speaker 1: was it was ailing I want to buy. I go
Speaker 1: straight to the cashiers. I buy it. And normally from
Speaker 1: the supermarket to money house it was maybe a four
Speaker 1: minute drive, maybe less, and if you got to walk there,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, say, twenty minutes. So I'm I bolted
Speaker 1: straight out of there, went straight to my car, drove
Speaker 1: straight home. And now I'm on my street. And who's
Speaker 1: walking on my street but her, which would have been impossible.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If you look for don't don't
Speaker 1: just go on the you know, evidence that presents itself.
Speaker 1: Try to find something that cannot make sense. And that's
Speaker 1: when you say, oh, okay, maybe that person is really
Speaker 1: not from here. There are and now I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit more sensitized to that, and I can feel certain
Speaker 1: people that way. Yeah.
Speaker 2: You bring up Timothy Good, who's this phenomenal author and
Speaker 2: he believes he and you actually quote him in your book,
Speaker 2: that the beings from other worlds have been on Earth
Speaker 2: longer than we have been here. In other words, our species,
Speaker 2: Homo sapien sapiens, came out of this tree, and perhaps
Speaker 2: Good is suggesting that there's other trees from other civilizations
Speaker 2: that have been on Earth and populated. And it's funny
Speaker 2: because when I hear that, I think about these unusual
Speaker 2: groups who appear. You see their rules, you see their
Speaker 2: megalithic structures, but there's no evidence of them being around anymore.
Speaker 2: I just interviewed a husband and wife team who have
Speaker 2: been working with this part of Columbia, South America called
Speaker 2: Saint Augustine, and these only thing that's left of the
Speaker 2: beings that were there are these megalithic sculptures of people.
Speaker 2: But the people are wearing technology like headphones and headsets,
Speaker 2: and their sculptures are very sophisticated, but there's nothing else
Speaker 2: that's left to them. And you've got to wonder was
Speaker 2: earthlike kind of a Garden of Eden at some point,
Speaker 2: because they weren't. They haven't been on the planet for
Speaker 2: five thousand plus years, you know, maybe they were they
Speaker 2: came they settled, then they left. And that's just one
Speaker 2: of many, many examples of of unusual species of beings
Speaker 2: being on the planet. Because we don't have any skeletory
Speaker 2: remains of these people. It's very strange. So I was
Speaker 2: thinking about Tim Good, you know, and what he had
Speaker 2: to say about.
Speaker 1: That, and I don't recall exactly what I wrote about
Speaker 1: what he said about that, but you know the fact
Speaker 1: that when people are talking about communicating, okay, a lot
Speaker 1: of with inter dimensionals, a lot of people are, you know,
Speaker 1: doing speaking light languages, which has become incredibly popular after
Speaker 1: I wrote that book, but it was not really a
Speaker 1: thing when I wrote it. And people a lot of
Speaker 1: them feel that they are in communication and are speaking
Speaker 1: something that sounds sort of it has sort of like
Speaker 1: an ancient sort of an I'm not good with Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern stuff, but sort of an Arabic or a guttural
Speaker 1: type of a sound.
Speaker 2: Like a lost language.
Speaker 1: Yes, So if you go back, and I did write
Speaker 1: about that, if you go back, say three thousand years ago,
Speaker 1: and you look at some of the Sumerian languages, you
Speaker 1: look at archaic archaic Egyptian languages, or even Paleo Hebrew,
Speaker 1: those are all more in that third millennial BC. And
Speaker 1: to me, that suggested, you know, they may have been there,
Speaker 1: left there, let's say, to go to a different planet
Speaker 1: or whatever, and so that when they're coming back, that's
Speaker 1: the language that they still recall speaking on Earth.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: You know that's That's one way to look at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to get your thoughts on channeled information.
Speaker 2: I have people like Bashar, who is channeled. He's a
Speaker 2: space entity channel through a guy named darryl Anka and
Speaker 2: he's been doing He's been channeling this alien for three
Speaker 2: decades if not longer. And Bashar's psych And I'm not
Speaker 2: a great nothing. I'm on the fence with it. And
Speaker 2: I used to have people at the shows that I
Speaker 2: did that were channeling various entities. But when you when
Speaker 2: you hear somebody like this, who's actually saying that I'm
Speaker 2: from this planet, this is my name, and this is
Speaker 2: the message I have for you, what do you say
Speaker 2: to that?
Speaker 1: It really depends who I'm talking to. I can tell
Speaker 1: you that as a psychic medium, I have always been
Speaker 1: incredibly skeptical of people who are channeling.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I knew when I was in college for some reason,
Speaker 1: I was very good friends with her. They were brother
Speaker 1: and sister, and their mother was known to be the
Speaker 1: premier et channel or in the world.
Speaker 2: E wed channeler. ET.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really yeah, And and of course I'm like at
Speaker 1: that point, I'm like, well, what is that stuff? I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what psychics were. I mean that was
Speaker 1: but we anyway, we brought her to come and speak
Speaker 1: at the university. We couldn't get her in as part
Speaker 1: of the regular program, but we got her into one
Speaker 1: of the clubs, and you know, I watched her. She'd
Speaker 1: bent to spoon for me when we took her out
Speaker 1: to launch at one of the eating clubs. She she
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what that was about either. I figured, oh,
Speaker 1: that's got to be some kind of magic. And now
Speaker 1: I do it, so I know how to do it.
Speaker 1: I've ben steel, so it's real and now. But it
Speaker 1: took me line today anyway, So she according and her
Speaker 1: kids are like incredibly straight laced, serious, no, none of
Speaker 1: this bs stuffy. Then they'd not, you know, they don't
Speaker 1: get on psychic roots or whatever. And they told me,
Speaker 1: as did her husband when her husband was alive, that
Speaker 1: she had channeled. She went into a channeling session of
Speaker 1: et and she had done this regularly for many, many years,
Speaker 1: but apparently that regular entity did not show up, and
Speaker 1: a very unpleasant entity got in. And my friends and
Speaker 1: their father all told me that within I think it
Speaker 1: was it was either seventeen or nineteen seconds, she had
Speaker 1: put on fifty pounds forty pounds excuse me her, the
Speaker 1: zipper on her skirt busted, and all of her buttons
Speaker 1: on her blouse like blew off. Wow, And she wasn't
Speaker 1: ever able to take off all of that weight. So
Speaker 1: to me, there's a little like, Okay, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: there actually were some real entities there, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: is one reason I do not channel. I'll communicate. I
Speaker 1: do not channel because I do not give up the vessel,
Speaker 1: right right. And you also, if you're gonna look at
Speaker 1: anybody who's channeling, I think you have to look at
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting to listen to uh, what's
Speaker 1: Bashar's human? What's his name again, darryl Anka, Yeah, darryl Anka.
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting to listen to him on
Speaker 1: interviews talking just as him and not Bashar. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's what I'm wondering, and.
Speaker 1: And you have to ask yourself, is the information that's
Speaker 1: being delivered inaccessible to us humans? Otherwise that's where I
Speaker 1: would ask the question.
Speaker 2: That's a good point, you know, is it something that
Speaker 2: we can access and make sense of? So it's fascinating.
Speaker 2: The book is how to talk to an alien? Can
Speaker 2: they speak our language? Can they read our minds? What
Speaker 2: are they trying to tell us? And then my guess
Speaker 2: been Nancy, Yes, the wonderful French name. What are they
Speaker 2: trying to tell us?
Speaker 1: Well, I think they've they It depends again who you're
Speaker 1: talking to, but I think the ones who really are
Speaker 1: trying to talk to us have done, you know, all
Speaker 1: those typical things that contact he's talk about, which is
Speaker 1: to talk about interconnectedness, of consciousness of God, of the universe,
Speaker 1: of them and us, and also of the importance because
Speaker 1: of interconnectedness of protecting their planet our planet. Same thing.
Speaker 2: I had to go ahead, I'm sorry, had more?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And I think that you know, we're reaching
Speaker 1: critical points right now. I think everybody feels that. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows that.
Speaker 2: Right. One of the things that I always come up
Speaker 2: with when I think about first contact in the broad
Speaker 2: and planetary knowledge that we're not the only ones in
Speaker 2: our universe or our cosmos is the fact, and I'm
Speaker 2: interested in your opinion of this. As a species, we
Speaker 2: automatically evolve when we get that understanding that we are
Speaker 2: not the only ones here, that there are other alien
Speaker 2: et races that are nearby. They're observing us right now,
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, they've decided not to make full contact.
Speaker 2: But when the contact is acknowledged and it's in our newspapers,
Speaker 2: in our radios, in our podcasts, and you can have
Speaker 2: a conversation with an alien, which I've wanted to do
Speaker 2: on another show, we automatically shift and changes a species.
Speaker 2: Don't you believe that's true?
Speaker 1: Because we have that knowledge because.
Speaker 2: We know we're not alone anymore, that we are part
Speaker 2: of a likely a collective, and that we are part
Speaker 2: of the cosmos. We're not just the only beings in
Speaker 2: our in our universe, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the big safety nets, is that,
Speaker 2: which is what I think our government and the churches
Speaker 2: and religion sends out that we're the only ones, So
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry we're all by ourselves. We
Speaker 2: have to be with we have to protect each other.
Speaker 2: But if we're not, if we're given the knowledge that
Speaker 2: we're not the only ones that were part of a
Speaker 2: collective of planets and that we are one of a
Speaker 2: number of species, we automatically have to change our opinion
Speaker 2: of ourself, of our planet. It changes everything. That's the
Speaker 2: feeling that I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it reminds me of that thing about like when
Speaker 1: you go into it's either high school or you go
Speaker 1: into college, or you know, the freshman knows nothing or
Speaker 1: does not know that he knows nothing, and then the
Speaker 1: sophomore and then finding you to the senior who knows
Speaker 1: that he knows, but everything in between is kind of
Speaker 1: a mess. Yeah. Once you have knowledge, you're then responsible
Speaker 1: for that knowledge. Yeah, and I you know, humans are
Speaker 1: extremely used to dominating the planet, dominating all of their
Speaker 1: species on the planet and destroying them. And I forget
Speaker 1: horrible rates and threatening to destroy our human species just
Speaker 1: because you have people who you know are seeking dominance, power, whatever.
Speaker 1: Once you throw in entities that are how would you say,
Speaker 1: potentially much smarter, potentially invisible, potentially technologically advanced, you've got
Speaker 1: to reconsider your own abilities. And you know that's the
Speaker 1: point if you were doing I've owned a whole lot
Speaker 1: of businesses and also as a lawyer. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you understand that you're in a weak position, that's not
Speaker 1: the point the place where you go to litigation to
Speaker 1: duke it out. That's where you start negotiating or trying
Speaker 1: to figure Okay, how can we work this out. That's
Speaker 1: the beginning of a discussion.
Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah, So as we conclude, Nancy, what
Speaker 2: what are some thoughts you'd like to leave our audience
Speaker 2: with in terms of the future of communicating with ets
Speaker 2: and what you what you kind of think of what
Speaker 2: the future holds for greater communication.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you right off the bat,
Speaker 1: I don't think this whole new thing with military psionics
Speaker 1: is a fantastic idea, you know, using psychically talented people
Speaker 1: in the military to call in UAPs, because then you
Speaker 1: got to look at, well, what are the motivations for that,
Speaker 1: and if you're going to bring them in using deception,
Speaker 1: which is we love you, come on in, we love you,
Speaker 1: and then we don't, what have we done? So I
Speaker 1: think communication has to be done with clear intent, and
Speaker 1: it has to be done with the understanding that we
Speaker 1: need to up our game in order to learn how
Speaker 1: to communicate. That's really what I've spent most of my
Speaker 1: career trying to show people is how do we get better?
Speaker 1: How do we get stronger? How do we get better?
Speaker 1: Because the stronger we are, we're in a better position.
Speaker 1: That's how I think we need to be able to
Speaker 1: learn how to communicate. But you start playing deception games
Speaker 1: and I think we lose interesting.
Speaker 2: I was not aware of that they were doing that.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of Stephen Greer's contact scenario where he
Speaker 2: uses laser lights out in the desert and you flash him,
Speaker 2: and he's had some experiences where they'll come down and
Speaker 2: you can see this an it's a UAP, but they
Speaker 2: don't land, you know, because God knows what would happen
Speaker 2: if the.
Speaker 1: I'm all in favor. You know, I've done many CE
Speaker 1: fives in all favor of and I've seen many, many
Speaker 1: many UFOs UAPs. I don't call them in That's not
Speaker 1: my purpose. What I'm trying to do is to communicate. Essentially.
Speaker 1: It's it's saying hello, but I'm not saying, Oh, come
Speaker 1: on down, visit us here on earth. We're really great folks.
Speaker 1: We'll treat you right. I'm not doing that because I
Speaker 1: think that is a mistake for a whole number of reasons.
Speaker 1: It's too long to go into, but I think it's
Speaker 1: important to it.
Speaker 2: It is important to communicate very good. All right, Nancy,
Speaker 2: give us your website and how people can get a
Speaker 2: hold of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, that would be great. So the website is
Speaker 1: the Skeptical Psychic dot com. And I have I do
Speaker 1: teach remote viewing, I do dream analysis uh And as
Speaker 1: I said, I've got this new uh TSP remote viewing
Speaker 1: for autistics neurodivergence. They can reach me there easily. I'm
Speaker 1: also working on a new uh uh TV series that
Speaker 1: will involve the kinds of things that we're talking about.
Speaker 1: So that is very promising. That is coming together very
Speaker 1: fast right now. I'm working with you.
Speaker 2: Is that is that Nancy Dutour on Unexplained or is
Speaker 2: this an old your own channel? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, this is a TV series. It's it's not
Speaker 1: a YouTube thing.
Speaker 2: Oh actual TV.
Speaker 1: Cool, this is actual Yeah, So that's something you know,
Speaker 1: we're interested in. We do have people interested already who
Speaker 1: are interested in, you know, pushing this to the finishing line.
Speaker 1: But that's been a major project going on with me
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. I look forward to hearing more about that. Hey,
Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time. It's been fun, and I
Speaker 2: hope that you expand this book on aliens. Maybe I
Speaker 2: heard a number of different themes that you could pick
Speaker 2: up on and write a book. But of course it's
Speaker 2: me talking to you writing, so it's two different things.
Speaker 1: I'm always interested in collaborations. I'd be happy to work
Speaker 1: on something with you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Rah, interesting, Okay, Hey, a real pleasure. I want
Speaker 2: to thank you for joining me and continue success.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: How to Talk to an Alien is available in most bookstores,
Speaker 2: and I found it a couple, like I said, a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and she speaks to it, and
Speaker 2: she's actually when we were talking to her today, she's
Speaker 2: actually adding more of the remote viewing aspect of it.
Speaker 2: And I've had people on the show years ago, probably
Speaker 2: like five or six years ago, who were talking about
Speaker 2: remote viewing planet Mars. I mentioned Mars, but also remote
Speaker 2: viewing Earth thousands of years ago. And some of these
Speaker 2: guys are coming up with different kinds of hominids, different
Speaker 2: kinds of humans. And I've always mentioned that it's my
Speaker 2: belief that Earth has gone through different environmental changes where
Speaker 2: perhaps the Earth was bumped out of its current orbit
Speaker 2: around the Sun and it had more or less gravity,
Speaker 2: which would create giants, create beings with longer craniums longer
Speaker 2: or taller, or giants, so forth and so on, and
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's something to consider. It really is
Speaker 2: our environment being different. But I did mention the fact
Speaker 2: that remote viewing is likely used in our government and
Speaker 2: by our contemporaries other countries to detect alien activity today.
Speaker 2: Of course, we'll never know exactly what's going on until
Speaker 2: we do have a first contact scenario. You know, me,
Speaker 2: I gotta I want this scenario. I want the first
Speaker 2: contact scenario. I want it to happen. You know. It's funny, though,
Speaker 2: I hike out in the woods, and it might be
Speaker 2: kind of a good idea to kind of do an
Speaker 2: intention to meet or to connect with an alien, especially
Speaker 2: the ones that are walking among us. I hadn't thought
Speaker 2: about that might be a way to do it so
Speaker 2: that I get over my frustration. I intend to meet
Speaker 2: a alien being on my daily hike, or I intend
Speaker 2: to meet I intend to connect with some form of
Speaker 2: an alien, hybrid or being in my daily activities. I
Speaker 2: don't know if any of you guys remember when I
Speaker 2: had Whitley Strieber on. He talked about connecting with hybrids
Speaker 2: or aliens that were human looking and seeing them in
Speaker 2: stores and seeing them shopping, and he just felt their presence.
Speaker 2: There's a certain feeling that we get because you know,
Speaker 2: we're although we're very nuns, still we're not using all
Speaker 2: of our sensibilities or senses. We still could pick up
Speaker 2: an alien. You could probably fill different You're kind of
Speaker 2: like noticing something about that person. And what I'm saying
Speaker 2: noticing it's your psychic awareness, it's your you know, all
Speaker 2: of us have this ability. But I have a feeling
Speaker 2: when you're close to an alien, likely even a hybrid,
Speaker 2: that you're going to pick up on them. You really
Speaker 2: are so anyhow, how to talk to an alien? Fascinating stuff.
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