WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:03.399 Hey, it's Fred and We're going to do something here 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:06.280 that I've never ever done before in the history of 3 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.839 Golf Smarter. And that's just riff. This is Golf Smarter. 4 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:15.160 I'm not interviewing anybody here. This is a bonus episode 5 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.160 that I'm just going to add lib on. Let it 6 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:22.079 fly and see what happens. So I'll stay with me 7 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:27.679 because I can't wait to share with you my two 8 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:34.240 days at the Masters. It's been absolutely amazing to spend 9 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:40.240 those two days. I've been to multiple sporting events. I've 10 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.960 been to the Super Bowl, I've been to eight World Series. 11 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:46.759 I've been to five Baseball All Star Games. I've been 12 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:50.280 to the NBA All Star Game, ND five hundred NASCAR. 13 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.840 I've been to a couple WrestleManias, but nothing compares to 14 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:02.759 the excitement of the Master going to Augusta. I mean, 15 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.719 you know, it's everybody's bucket list, everybody who's ever been 16 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:12.599 around golf, it's their bucket list, and I get to 17 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.920 check it off. A little background on how I got 18 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:22.560 here first, So a Golf Smarter listener named Chett Hurwitz, 19 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:27.640 who really is an amazing ambassador at Golf Smarter here 20 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:31.920 in Atlanta telling many of his friends, and then he 21 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:39.280 saw on Facebook. He saw on Facebook that a high 22 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:43.480 school classmate of his had written a memoir that was 23 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:50.439 being highly recommended. So Chet got the book, a book 24 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:54.519 called By Accident by joe Anne Green, and he started 25 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:58.599 reading it. And while he's reading it, he's realizing, wait 26 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:02.560 a minute, she keeps talking about her husband Fred. It's 27 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.840 the same Fred Green who I've been listening to for 28 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:10.919 a while. So Chet reached out to Joanne and in 29 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.719 twenty twenty three, Joanne and I took the civil Rights 30 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.719 tour in the South and we stopped in Atlanta first. 31 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:20.240 We came in a day early and we met Chet 32 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:23.319 and his wife, who again my wife went to high 33 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:26.520 school with him, and you can hear my wife on 34 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.960 her podcasts in the story, and she also does the 35 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:36.039 introduction to golf smarter. That's my wife's voice. So we 36 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.159 met Chet last year and his wife and Chet and 37 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:45.280 I immediately start talking golf and the podcast, and he's 38 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:50.840 told me that he had been to multiple Masters before 39 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.879 and also has played Augusta National at least a half 40 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:59.319 dozen times, I think it is. And I told him 41 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.360 at that point year ago, I said, if there's any 42 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:04.400 chance ever of me getting to come with you to 43 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.280 go to the Masters, give me twenty four hours notice 44 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.599 and I'll be there. And so over the last year 45 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:14.479 we worked on it. And if you remember last week's 46 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:18.000 episode or this week's episode with doctor Bob Jones, the 47 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:22.080 fourth Bobby Jones' grandson, he talked about Charlie Yates and 48 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:26.000 his one of his closest friends, Charlie Yates Junior. Charlie 49 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:28.840 Yates was a golfer in the thirties and forties and 50 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:36.319 a kind of a legend here in Atlanta. And chet 51 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.759 is also good friends with Charlie, and Charlie was the 52 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:45.240 one who provided He's a member at Augustin National, and 53 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:49.639 he was able to provide us with two members badges 54 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:54.719 for Wednesday at the Masters and then Thursday for the 55 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.800 first day of the Masters. We just got regular tickets. 56 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:02.479 And I'll break that down and admit it, but I 57 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.439 just wanted to share with you the introduction of how 58 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:09.759 I got here in the first place. As I'm talking 59 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.960 right now, I'm sitting at my gate. I'm about to 60 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:18.720 fly back to San Francisco this morning, and so I 61 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:22.319 just want to share observations and stories from my time 62 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:37.920 and we'll do that after this. Okay, augusta national amazing. Now, 63 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.839 first thing I want to tell you is that when 64 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:45.199 you okay, so he's talking, I hope you can hear 65 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:59.720 me over this guy talking, I'll just wait, Okay. Yeah. 66 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.160 The first thing I want to talk about is that 67 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:06.240 since most of us has to experience the masters, the 68 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.839 people who go, what they tell you, the ones who've 69 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:10.680 been If you've ever talked to people who've been there, 70 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.920 first thing they talk about is how amazing it is, 71 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:19.160 that how steep the holes are, and you really don't 72 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:21.360 get a sense of that on television. And it's true, 73 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:25.000 you really don't get a sense of how steep the 74 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:28.279 holes and the walking is and what a challenging walk 75 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.399 it is. So here's a piece of advice. When you're 76 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:35.360 watching it on TV, look at the player's head, the 77 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.519 top of his head, and then compare that to the horizon. 78 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:42.480 If the horizon is above his head, clearly he's going uphill. 79 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.000 If the horizon is below his head, then he's going downhill. 80 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.639 And you can really tell get a better sense of 81 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:52.240 what the undulation is like when you're watching on TV. 82 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:55.920 I have all these notes that I'm checking off in 83 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:02.480 my day here. So when we arrived Whennesday morning, we 84 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.279 get our badges, and the first thing I'm interested in 85 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:09.839 is going to the gift shop because I wanted to 86 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:12.879 get a nome, right, a garden nome, and the line 87 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:15.319 said it was eighty minutes long, and it's like, yeah, 88 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:17.399 I'm going to pass on that for now, and Chat 89 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.480 recommended that we just pass on that until later and 90 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.920 go to a different, different store which is on the 91 00:06:23.920 --> 00:06:28.680 fifth hole instead of the entrance main entrance. And because 92 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:32.319 we had members badges for Wednesday, that gave us access 93 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.759 to the Member's Clubhouse, the Member's pro Shop, the Member's 94 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:43.279 gift store, Founder's Hall, and to get inside the ropes 95 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:46.839 by the tree. And that's where the golf industry all 96 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:50.879 hangs out. It is under the big tree, right outside 97 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:54.240 the clubhouse, and that's where all the umbrellas are to 98 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:57.199 sit and eat. If you've seen, you know or heard 99 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:02.399 about under the umbrellas. So first thing, because Chet has 100 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.920 played there so many times, he was able to give 101 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:11.040 me a detailed tour. And on Wednesday they had the 102 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.600 putting contest. We didn't watch any golf. We saw a 103 00:07:13.639 --> 00:07:16.480 couple of golfers practicing on various holes, but we didn't 104 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:19.319 see any golf that day, just but we probably put 105 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:23.199 in thirty thousand steps walking the course and chet sharing 106 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:28.319 details from tee to green on practically every hole and 107 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.600 how to play them and the best viewing angles for things. 108 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:37.199 So at one point, where standing waiting to cross over 109 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:43.000 the fifteenth fairway and standing there, and I turn around 110 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.720 and I look and I'm thinking, wait a minute, is 111 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:49.680 that it is? And I walked up to this person 112 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.560 after watching for a few minutes, and I went page 113 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:56.839 and it was Paige Spinner Rack on Wednesday. Well, Wednesday 114 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:58.319 is the only day you were allowed to have a 115 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:02.079 camera there, and you can't your phones anytime, but I 116 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:04.680 had a digital camera that I borrowed from a friend. 117 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:07.839 So I talked to Page for a minute. Told her 118 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.759 that when she first got started doing her YouTube videos, 119 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:12.959 that I wrote to her asking her to be on 120 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.680 the show and that she never responded, which is fine 121 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.399 because it was a podcast and she's a video star. 122 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:23.439 And just told her how happy I was for her success. 123 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.600 And we got a picture together. So then we take 124 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:31.399 off and now we're walking and we're headed up because 125 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:33.840 we're supposed to meet Mac Barnhardt who you heard a 126 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:36.519 couple of weeks ago for multiple times on the show. 127 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:40.799 Mac is Lucas Glover's agent, and Mac and I had 128 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:44.000 been texting and he says, all right, meet me at 129 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:48.480 noon at eleven point thirty, buy the tree front of 130 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:52.279 the clubhouse and we'll have lunch together and then Lucas 131 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.279 te's off at twelve fourteen, so we'll go over there together. 132 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:00.679 And I'm like, okay, that would be awesome. As we're 133 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.759 walking over there, there's a group of photographers walking in 134 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.120 front of us. You know, we're walking across the fairway 135 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.159 and there's a group of four or five photographers with 136 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:15.240 very large lenses, you know, official press photographers in front 137 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.200 of us. And I look over and one of them 138 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:23.720 is Ken Griffy Junior. And I was like Ken, he 139 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:27.480 goes yeah, I said, you're working here. What's going on? 140 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.919 He goes yeah, I am. And I said it's crazy 141 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.320 because I was just telling Chet a story about you 142 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:37.519 this morning. So on the drive over from we were 143 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:41.559 staying about an hour outside of Augusta It's which is 144 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.000 two and a half hours from Atlanta. We were staying 145 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.720 with a friend of his while we were going to 146 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:49.840 Augusta and on the drive over, Chet and I were 147 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:54.120 sharing baseball stories. Chet's father was a renowned baseball writer 148 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.320 for the Boston Globe for decades, and so Chet and 149 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:00.600 I both have great baseball stories. We were sharing and 150 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:02.919 I was telling about the time that I was at 151 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:07.039 a game at the Seattle Mariners game and Ken Griffy 152 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.159 Junior and Ken Griffy Senior were on the same team together. 153 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.480 It was one of two years or one year that 154 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.960 they did that. And the story was the game I 155 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:21.200 was at, Dad was on second base, I think he walked, 156 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.399 and then there was a sacrifice fly. He's on second, 157 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.639 and then Junior comes up to the plate and hits 158 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.480 a home run. Well, in baseball, when somebody hits a 159 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.799 home run, if anybody's on base, they run, they cross 160 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:37.039 home and then they wait for the guy who hit 161 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.759 the home run. They wait for him to cross home plate, 162 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:42.559 and when they do, give him a high five, a 163 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.320 slap on the butt, and they go into the dugout. 164 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.240 Not Ken Griffy Senior. He's waiting for his son to 165 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:53.240 come to home plate, and as he crosses home plate, 166 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:57.639 Dad reaches up, grabs his hat and gives Junior a 167 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:01.159 noogie and it was the cutest things, a total dad thing. 168 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:06.120 So I when I met Ken Griffy walking across Augusta 169 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.519 National and I said, I was just telling Jet this 170 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:12.039 story about you this morning, and I told Ken the 171 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.480 whole story, and I said, you know, he gave you 172 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.919 a noogi and Ken looks at me, he goes, he's 173 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:21.320 still doing that. It was so good. So he looked 174 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.279 at me and he goes, is this your first masters 175 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:27.480 And I yes, and he said me too. Isn't this awesome? 176 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.919 So that was really amazing that I got to meet him. 177 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.799 So then we made it up there and we met. 178 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:37.600 We made it to the tree and I find Mac 179 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:41.519 and he's having a conversation with Jeff Ogilvie and his daughter. 180 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:45.080 So I kind of stand back and wait wait for 181 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:48.120 them to finish. And as I'm talking, I look over 182 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.039 his shoulder and there's Annika Sorenstam having a conversation with somebody. 183 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:54.519 And I look over to the right and sitting at 184 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:59.080 one of the tables under the umbrella, there's Nancy Lopez. 185 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:02.759 You have two of maybe the top five women golfers 186 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:07.039 of history standing there. It's like people are just you know, 187 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.200 schmoozing and happy to see each other and having a 188 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:15.799 grand old time. So I'm talking to Mac and he 189 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:19.960 introduces me to another person that he's talking to was 190 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:24.799 Derek Smith, who I actually met a couple times that afternoon. 191 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.000 Derek Smith is one of the part owners of the 192 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:32.440 Atlanta Falcons and the CEO of Choice Point. But then 193 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.639 we go and sit down for our lunch. We get 194 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:40.039 a table and it's Chet and Mack and myself, and 195 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:45.000 across the table are three gentlemen. And I'm going to 196 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.080 back up the story a little bit. When I landed 197 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:52.519 in Atlanta on Monday night, the first thing I did 198 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:56.639 was go visit Chet, and I I Chet. It was 199 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:59.320 a mile from Chet's house. We went and visited doctor 200 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.360 Bob Jones. As many times as doctor Bob has been 201 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:06.919 on Golf Smarter over the years, he and I had 202 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.559 never met, so it was really awesome to go to 203 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:14.320 us office and meet him and then spend you know, 204 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:19.360 hour and a half just chatting or chat and doctor 205 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:23.960 Bob and myself. So one of the things that doctor 206 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:26.399 Bob and we talked about this earlier. Doctor Bob and 207 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:31.840 Charlie Yates are very good friends. Well, Chat is very 208 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.759 good friends as well. With Charlie Yates Junior, as is 209 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:40.159 Doctor Bob and I actually this year I asked if 210 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:42.840 Doctor Bob would ask Charlie to be on the show 211 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:48.519 with him, and Charlie is very shy about that, doesn't 212 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:54.519 like to showcase himself, but he denied, so like, that's fine. 213 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.120 I just was hoping maybe we can do it. So 214 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:02.000 we meet up with Charlie Yates and he introduces me 215 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:06.919 to Derek Smith again second time. But now we're sitting 216 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:10.840 having lunch with Mac and sitting across the table of 217 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:14.879 these three gentlemen, one man probably his late seventies of 218 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:20.600 maybe early eighties named William Black, and his two sons 219 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:25.480 are sitting there, Stu and Robert. And we get talking 220 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:29.639 and I asked Bill. He introduced himself as Bill Black. 221 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.279 I asked him how long? How many times have you 222 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.000 been coming to the Masters and he said, well, my 223 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:39.440 first time I was fourteen years old, So you're kidding, 224 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.440 that's incredible. How have you had access like that? He 225 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.639 said family? And I looked at him. I said, keep going, 226 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:51.519 tell me more. He goes, yeah, my grandfather was Bobby Jones. 227 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:56.399 I'm like, wait a minute, your first cousins with doctor Bob. Yeah, 228 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:01.919 I said, we were with him the other night. It's incredible. 229 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.240 So here I am sitting with Bobby Jones' grandson and 230 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.679 two of his great grandsons and we had a wonderful 231 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:14.679 time and Bill told crazy stories, but it supported almost 232 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:22.799 everything that doctor Bob said. And hopefully Robert Bob Black 233 00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.799 will be on the show because he's got a really 234 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:29.480 fascinating organization called Change the Course and I hope to 235 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:35.200 feature that soon on a upcoming episode of Golf Smarter. 236 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:39.919 Now I'm doing this little bonus episode because I've got 237 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:43.320 so much packed in leading up to episode one thousand 238 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:46.000 that I didn't want to change any of those, so 239 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.360 I thought it would be appropriate to put this on 240 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:53.679 the Sunday. And Okay, they're preboarding. I'm just going to 241 00:15:53.799 --> 00:15:59.240 keep talking. Hopefully you'll hear what I'm saying. Because we 242 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:03.240 have access to the clubhouse and whatnot from the members. 243 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:06.440 We're able to walk into the trophy room and the 244 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.879 hallway of the main lobby of the Founder's room, and 245 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:17.639 it's a museum of Augusta and it's absolutely amazing. And 246 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:24.320 after spending two plus hours with Mac and then another 247 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:26.960 half hour or so with Charlie, we get back to 248 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:31.720 walking the course again. I'll tell you everyone talks about 249 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.960 how beautiful, how green it is. It's incredibly lush at 250 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.039 Augusta National as far as how green it is. It's 251 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:42.360 maintained perfectly, and you can see how fast the greens are. 252 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.840 But they're not allowed. The announcers are not allowed to 253 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:50.200 call the rough because it's not really rough. They call 254 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.200 it the second cut. When the ball lands on this 255 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:56.279 second cut, which we would think of as rough, the 256 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:59.480 ball is still ninety percent above the grass. You don't 257 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:01.639 lose the You're not going to lose the ball anywhere. 258 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.480 It's really kind of wide open, so you know. But 259 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.519 the course, the greens are so hard, the green complexes 260 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:14.119 are so big, and so have such elevation change and undulation. 261 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:18.079 They're hard to read. As you're able to see, it's 262 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:21.440 just a remarkable golf course. It's really beautiful. And the 263 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:27.119 master's tea boxes are much farther away than the members 264 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:31.960 tea boxes. It makes it almost you know, a fun 265 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:36.960 game to play if you're getting a chance to play there. 266 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:41.960 So one other thing before we left Mac we went 267 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.960 over to go watch the families and the little kids 268 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:49.920 doing just before the part three contest. So that's where 269 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:52.680 the little kids come out and they get to see 270 00:17:53.519 --> 00:18:00.279 where see, you know, the families playing and whatnot. I'm 271 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:02.160 just checking my the phone. I'm on zone three and 272 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:05.319 they're on zone two. So let's take another break here, 273 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:09.880 and when we come back, I'll give you my impressions 274 00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:21.799 of Thursday. I'll be back right after this. Okay, we're 275 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:25.720 ready to start again. And now I'm it's Sunday morning 276 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:28.720 at the Master. It's no, it's Sunday morning, and I'm 277 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.759 in my backyard. I couldn't record again. It was too 278 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:36.279 loud on a plane obviously to record anything. And then afterwards, 279 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:38.799 as soon as I landed, my wife was also in 280 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:42.359 Los Angeles during the week watching the grandchildren, and then 281 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:45.920 so we landed at the airport at the same time. 282 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.039 So I just haven't had a chance and we had 283 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:51.559 dinner plans last night. I didn't have chance to record 284 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:57.279 this second segment until now, and I've been trying to 285 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:00.200 gather my thoughts and talk about what Thursday was like 286 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:05.319 versus Wednesday, and they're completely different days. Wednesday was like 287 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:11.519 being at Disneyland, you know, I went shopping twice. I 288 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.279 shopped first in the morning, and then I shopped again 289 00:19:14.359 --> 00:19:18.640 in the afternoon, and then as we were leaving, and 290 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:24.039 then Thursday is more like being the Thanksgiving Day parade. Right. 291 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:28.240 It's just a bunch of people lined up with mild 292 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:34.279 applause watching people watching the stars stroll by. It's kind 293 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:39.160 of like being a parade. Funny thing about this. My 294 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.039 younger son, who I've talked about for so many years 295 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:44.359 on the podcast, is the one who got me started 296 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:47.759 playing golf when I was in my mid forties. He 297 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:51.440 and I have had this ongoing thing about who do 298 00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:52.559 you think is going to get to go to the 299 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.839 Masters first. Well, when he asked me that question, I 300 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:58.319 didn't realize that he had friends who go every year. 301 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:01.680 One of his closest friends from cob friend from college, 302 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:05.400 and her husband they go every year because she's from 303 00:20:05.480 --> 00:20:10.200 that area and her mother has connections. And I was thinking, Oh, 304 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:13.079 I don't know, you know, you you going first, me 305 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.039 going first? I don't know if I'll ever get a 306 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:16.960 chance to go. But now that I realize you have 307 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:19.960 a chance to go, maybe your chances of going or 308 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.279 fifty to fifty. He's like, oh, no, no, no, I'm 309 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.599 going to go ninety percent. The irony to all this, 310 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:28.240 and again I didn't think I'd ever get to go. 311 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.839 The irony is that I went on Wednesday and Thursday, 312 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.359 and my son went on Friday and Saturday, so we 313 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:39.799 both got to go, but I got to go first, 314 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:42.839 and I had access to things that he would never 315 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:49.440 get access to because of Charlie Yates. So who again 316 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:54.119 we talked about with doctor Bob this week, So Thursday, 317 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.640 let's go back. So first thing, I wanted to get 318 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:00.839 a home. I wanted a garden nome. So as soon 319 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:03.160 as we got there, I got in line at one 320 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.960 of the stores, not the exclusive store that I got 321 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.039 to go in yesterday with my member badge, but they 322 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:11.200 didn't have nomes. But I went into one stores the 323 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:14.000 line was like thirty minutes long. The day before the 324 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:16.880 line was ninety minutes long, so I'm like pass, But 325 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.559 the thirty minute line is like, I'm going to do 326 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:21.000 it because I really want a gardennome for my putting green. 327 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:27.000 And I go shopping, I get my nome. I find 328 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.039 out they only have one per person, so I couldn't 329 00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:31.079 get one for my son. So I told him, you're 330 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:35.640 on your own on that and then luckily, you get 331 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:39.599 to go to your car once. While you're inside. You 332 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:41.640 have one time you can go out and come back in. 333 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:44.279 You only get two entries with your pass. So I 334 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:49.440 after shopping again, I went to the car, put stuff away, 335 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:52.559 and then we came back. Our first stop was we're 336 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.400 standing near the approach on number three. And as we're 337 00:21:56.480 --> 00:21:59.319 standing there waiting for the ball, you know, the guys 338 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.400 to tee off U all of a sudden a spotter 339 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:04.480 I'm standing next to the ropes, and the spotter goes 340 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.400 your feet, your feet, your feet, look off for your feet, 341 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:10.440 and a ball comes rolling and a guy on my left, 342 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.200 the ball hits his foot and rolls back behind the crowd. 343 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.279 So I immediately walk back and I get to stand 344 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:24.400 right behind. It was Patrick McNeely who was plus one 345 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:30.079 after two. I'm standing five six feet behind him. As 346 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.039 the ball is in the second cut. I remember they 347 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.799 are not allowed to call it the rough. But when 348 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:40.559 you look at the grass the second cut for recreational 349 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:43.519 players who play public golf, the second cut there is 350 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:47.440 kind of like what our fairways are like the ball 351 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.960 you can still see ninety percent of the ball. It's 352 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:52.359 sitting up there is no rough. This is not the 353 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.519 US Open, so there's always a great opportunity to hit 354 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:01.079 the ball. Well. Well, McNeely chipped up to a blind 355 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:03.880 shot and we don't know to applod or not. We 356 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:05.319 don't know if it rolled off the green, but the 357 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:07.759 people behind the green were plotting. It's like, okay, good shot. 358 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.799 He had a fifteen footer that he missed. It slid 359 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:13.480 to the left of the hole and he got the par. 360 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:18.759 Then we head over and we're at the number four 361 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:21.039 tea box and it's only like twenty yards from the 362 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:28.119 third hole which we just saw and the group of McNeely, 363 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:31.839 fanw and Dtrie and McNeely was closest to the pin 364 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:37.759 on that par and these are just notes. Then the 365 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.079 day before Charlie hs Junior told Chet, who you know, 366 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.000 they're good friends, told Chet meet me here at noon 367 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:49.279 tomorrow and let's have lunch. And so comes up to noon, 368 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:54.039 we meet Charlie and he's talking to some people and 369 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:58.000 he introduces us to these other guys and they're entrepreneurs, 370 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:02.839 fascinating entrepreneurs. And stay tuned because we made to get 371 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.759 a couple of them on the podcast coming up. I'm 372 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.559 working on it. And you'll know then at the time 373 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.400 that these are the people I had lunch with. But 374 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:18.279 Charlie then takes us into lunch inside the Founder's dining 375 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:23.519 room and then this is only people that can eat 376 00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:27.599 in there. I'm pretty sure are members and their guests. 377 00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:32.720 So we get to walk in and Charles at the 378 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:35.720 door was I think his name is Charles Cooley and 379 00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:40.960 he was a past champion that wasn't playing anymore. He's older, 380 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.079 but he's still alive. Let's see here. Yeah, he found 381 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:47.880 his name and it was Charles Coody from Ableing, Texas. 382 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.440 He wasn't playing, but he was there. So he greeted 383 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:53.319 us at the door, said hello to Charlie, and we 384 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:57.720 go in and eating lunch in this Founder's room with 385 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:04.160 Charlie sharing stories. Again. What a treat, no hats, what 386 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:08.599 a treat, What a conversation we had afterwards. I have 387 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.079 to go to the bathroom and I'm walk down the 388 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:14.960 hallway and I'm standing outside the bathroom and this young 389 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:16.960 woman comes up to me and says, sir, do you 390 00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:18.519 need to use the restroom? I say, yeah, I do, 391 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:21.559 I'm waiting here. She goes, come with me please, and 392 00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:24.039 she walks me down the hall. She knocks on a 393 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:28.799 door of a different bathroom and saying housekeeping, and nobody responds. 394 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:30.599 She goes here, you go, and I get a bathroom 395 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:35.119 to myself. That's what goes on at the Masters with 396 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:41.279 the staff. It is remarkable how much every person there, 397 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:44.079 even in the parking lots, when you're in the parking 398 00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.720 lot and you park your car, every single person is 399 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.319 welcome to the Masters. Welcome to the Masters, enjoy your day. 400 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:57.960 And that's just wherever you go. Later in the day, 401 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:00.839