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Speaker 2: St Step, I'm say, I'm say.

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Speaker 2: I'm cat, I'm saving, I'm sick, I'm saving, I'm still So.

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Speaker 4: That is another epic track from Tombstones in Their Eyes

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that is under Dark Skies. Love that track. And let's see,

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let's see here. We'll bring this mike up. We're gonna

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try to talk to John treen Or from the.

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Speaker 5: Band Just one too, I can take one too.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hey John, I can I can hear you? Can

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you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Oh beautiful? You sound great? So you switch to a

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different mic. I guess that's uh, I guess that's all

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we needed. Wonderful, Welcome to the show. I'm glad we

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got to talk. I was getting nervous. But I really, uh,

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I really like this project. This is really good Tombstones

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in Their Eyes great stuff. We did play the we

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played the single earlier Alive and Well, and of course

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that was the title track under Dark Skies and I

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love this band. Is this your project? Are you kind

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of the main guy? So you guys are now now

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you're you're on the West coast?

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Speaker 6: Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: I am los Angeles.

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Speaker 6: You're you're an LA.

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Speaker 4: Based band, and are you are you kind of the

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the main the main guy? Are you kind of the

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the center of the of the band? In terms of

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of uh steering the project?

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Speaker 5: I am. This is my band. I write the songs.

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UH formed it originally and uh yeah, so that's the

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Speaker 4: How long has this existed? How long has Tombstones in

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Their Eyes existed?

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Speaker 5: We're at ten years now, ten.

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Speaker 6: Years, that's a long time.

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Speaker 4: I was looking at band camp and I thought, wow,

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they've got a lot of material. You've released quite a

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bit over that span of time, which is impressive. Yeah,

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it's very very impressive.

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Speaker 6: Now I assume the uh, oh go ahead, No, you go.

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Speaker 4: Well, I was just gonna say, I assume the makeup

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of the band has changed quite a bit over that time.

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Speaker 5: It has. Yeah, the people I originally did the first

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recordings with are no longer around. I've got a bunch

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of newer people, some been around longer than others. The

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drummer Steven has been with me for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Has it been a challenge to keep this project going

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for ten years? Because some you know, some people if

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they have a band and people start leaving and they

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have to cycle people out, at some point they they

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kind of they kind of start to think, well, maybe

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I'll start a new project myself, since you know people

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are coming and going. But ten years, I mean, that's

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impressive longevity. Has it been? Has it been challenging at

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times to keep this going? Have you ever been tempted

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to start something new? Or maybe you're just firmly committed

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to this and you're gonna keep going no matter what.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is my thing and I'm gonna keep it

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Speaker 4: No, that's great. I assume too. Where you are obviously

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you've got a lot of talent around you. So how

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hard is it to find musicians to bring in when

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you have to do that, when you have to make

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a change, when somebody's leaving and you've got to replace them,

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Speaker 4: Do you do you hold auditions or do you just

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know people already who would be suitable for these various

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same experience, but it was easier. Our guitar player Paul

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this point. We just took some time off. But then

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asked him and his name is John Miller, and I

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think he's coming aboard. So that one, that one was

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Speaker 4: Now, what can you tell us about under Dark Skies

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because it seems like I was reading something about that

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personal upheaval. It was kind of the genesis of the

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emotional context of the album.

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my experience with that, but in twenty twenty three it

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was particularly bad, and you know, some really tough stuff

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Speaker 4: Something that comes up a lot on the show with

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people we talked to is how probably the best form

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of therapy is taking things that are bad, things that

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are traumatic, and then making that into art, because not

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only does it help you take something terribly negative and

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create something positive from it, because it helps you to

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create art, whether it be music or visual art or

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writing or whatever it is, but it also has the

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potential to help other people people because other people then

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can connect with that and it can help them as well.

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very positive out of it that not only helps you

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work through it and the process whatever it is you're

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have you experienced other people kind of reaching out to

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themes that are here or this this connects with me

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Speaker 5: I definitely?

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never done drugs, but after listening to your song, I

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completely understand the you know, the depths to which you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and can you tell us kind of circling back

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to Paul Button for a moment because the track we

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Speaker 6: Is that is it true that that's dedicated to Paul?

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his passing. Yeah, but but yeah, it was one of

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his favorites and he plays on it. And you know,

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you knowa dedicated to him because really the song is

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about coming through tough times and coming back right and

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, And we should talk to about where this

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that you're working in the production has to be really good.

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Speaker 4: So, uhhere where did you record this? And who did

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he's he's an LA fixture. He's been around since the

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late seventies. He played in a famous early LA sort

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of synth punk band called the Screamers, and since then

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ten years and he really gets what we want to do.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Oh that's awesome. Yeah, obviously it's working for you.

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but we do have a lot of industry people who

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listen to the show who might also find this very interesting.

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So this is a dual label release, so it's out

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on Little Cloud Records here in North America, but it's

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also on a completely separate label, Shore Dive Records in

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the UK. And I'm curious about how that works and

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how that came about, and are there any challenges to

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effectively You've released this on two separate labels, which is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wish I'd discovered I could do that sooner. Actually,

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because we have fans in Europe and you know, around

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the world, but particularly in Europe, the UK, and so

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Speaker 7: Ye.

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get our stuff out to those fans over there without

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Speaker 4: Makes sense, Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Have

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a place where we could do that is pretty tough,

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did notice that the picture that I saw too in

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the press release. So what I mean, what what do

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all these people? What do all these seven people do?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 4: Do you do you have multiple guitars? I mean what

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the lineup looks like in terms of of what everyone's

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Speaker 5: Sure? Yeah, So myself I do vocals and guitar. We

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have a guitar player named Phil Cobb does yeah, and

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be also you know, playing guitar. So that's me, two

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guitar players, a bass player named Nick, drummer named Steven,

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and then we have two other vocalists. One is Clia

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Cohen and the other is Courtney Davies. Okay, yeah, Courtney's

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been with us a little a little while and Clia

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harmony so much on the records that it made sense,

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you know, to try and do that live.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, has has that been some? Is that something

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that's unique to this record in terms of the harmonies

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or did you do that on.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, just.

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Speaker 5: Been a pro and an evolution.

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Speaker 6: Interesting, Okay, very cool. I want to ask you too.

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Speaker 4: I want to make sure we touch on you know,

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so people don't get the wrong idea in terms of

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in terms of the album and the context. You know,

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it's not all it's not all doom and gloom, right,

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there's there's sort of a theme of defiance and overcoming

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these challenges and dare I say even hopefulness to it, right.

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I listened to the whole thing, and that's that's kind

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of what I took from it. It's you know, it's

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not just you know, because people hear, you know, doom

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rock or whatever term you want to use, and they think, oh,

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it's it's just all down, it's all negative, but it's

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really not. And and what do you want people to

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take away from this, you know, not just when they

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listen to say Alive and Well the single, but when

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they listen to the whole album. What do you want

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people to take away from from that? When they hear it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear what you're saying for sure, and it

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is not all doom and gloom, right, And I want

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people to take away that you can make it through

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tough times, you can find strength and there is hope.

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And that was sort of you know, the place I

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was in. I can't believe I made it through at

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some at some points, right, And so the songs are

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they're not wallowing in self pity right there. There are

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like you said, sort of a defiant like I'm gonna

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make this happen, you know, I'm gonna make it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I got from it was the defiance

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and I really like that it connected with me. I

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think the album is fantastic. We should imagine too, how

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new it is too. This just came out December fifth, right,

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so this this just came out earlier this month, so

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it's very new and obviously it's on all the streaming services.

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And you did you get physical copies of this as well?

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Do you have physical copies?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's on vinyl, NCD. Vinyl can

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be you know, purchased through our band camp, can be

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purchased through Short Dived Records band camp in Europe and

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the UK and also on Little Cloud Records website, so

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it's available.

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Speaker 4: Oh, fantastic, fantastic. Where is the best place to go?

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Speaker 6: John?

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Speaker 4: And for people to keep up with everything that you're

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doing with tombstones in their eyes? Where should people go

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online to keep up with everything?

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Speaker 5: I would say these days, either Instagram. Probably Instagram would

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be the best place because I had some help with

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that and we're making sure the content is flowing there

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with news and other things. I handle the Facebook myself,

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so that's you know, there was a period where I

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was trying to manage every social media and I've had

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to concentrate on just a few. Yeah, you know, Yeah,

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i'd say Instagram is a good place to go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent, excellent. In a moment, we'll let you go

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and then we're gonna play I want to close out

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the segment with another track from the album, under Dark Skies,

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but I'm gonna kind of put you on the spot

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a little bit. I'm gonna ask you to pick it

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because we already played we played a live and well

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and we played the title track under Dark Skies, you know,

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while we were kind of working through our tech issues.

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So what would you like us to play to close

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Speaker 5: Wow, we might throw you a curve bamb play. Have

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you play an instrumental?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Would that be okay?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely, whatever you want.

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Speaker 5: The song is called the Beginning.

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Speaker 6: The Beginning.

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Speaker 4: Oh yep, I see it excellent. So yeah, so we'll

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finish out with that. That'll be interesting.

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Speaker 6: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, John, thank you so much for joining us here today.

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Like I said, I love the album. I'm going to

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go back to and listen to some of your earlier

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work as well. So far, I've only listened to Under

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Dark Skies, but i really enjoyed it a lot. And

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I'm glad that we were able to work through our

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tech issues and get you on the phone. And it's

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been interesting talking to you and I'm sure we will

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definitely do it again in the future.

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Speaker 6: As you're are you already working on new music? You are?

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Speaker 4: You just kind of focused on the current project right

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now now that this has just come out.

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Speaker 5: There's always stuff in the works. I mean, we have

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a lot a big backlog of songs that have recorded

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over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 7: Yea.

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Speaker 5: At the same time, yeah, I'm kind of focusing on

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this right now and trying to yeah, you know live.

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Speaker 6: Oh of course, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well we will definitely have you back in the future

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as when you do have new stuff, because like I said,

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I've become a fast fan of your work. We're gonna

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hit this track, so we'll let you go for now.

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But John from Tombstones in Their Eyes, thank you so

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much for joining us today.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm sorry for the second

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Speaker 4: No worries, We got through it all right, all right, John,

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take care of bye bye all right. That was John

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Treeener from Tombstones in Their Eyes and we will close

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out this segment with this. This is an instrumental from

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the album Under Dark Skies. This is called the Beginning.

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That's heavy. That is called the Beginning. The band is

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Tombstones in Their Eyes and thank you again to John

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Treeener for joining us. Thank you to everyone who joined

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us today. Of course, in the first hour we had

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Lewis Taylor from the band The Painting, and then in

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the second hour we had Mike Hill along with Terry

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and Lloyd from Charlie Hill with us and it was

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great talking. In the third hour with John Treener from

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Tombstones in Their Eyes really really liked that project. If

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you are just joining us, we are live, of course

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on Saturday, December twentieth, twenty twenty five. This is Matt

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Connorton Unleashed and we are live from the studios of

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w n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious Manchester,

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New Hampshire. Of course, you can stream the show from anywhere.

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Just go to Matt connorton dot com slash live for

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all of your live streaming options, social media links, contact

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and fosshow archives, etc.

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Speaker 6: Etc.

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Speaker 4: I talked about it at the very beginning in the

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first hour of today's show, and I'll just kind of

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circle back to it. I do want to anyone who

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missed it. I want to just publicly thank everybody for

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their kind words and love and support.

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Speaker 6: This week.

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Speaker 4: My father passed away on Thursday, Martin Connorton. Some of

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you knew him, became familiar with him through the show

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back when we used to do weekday afternoons. He was

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a regular caller, so a lot of you heard his voice.

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Some of you became familiar with him on social media,

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but you know he did. He did loom large in

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our little radio universe here. As I like to say,

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so uh, you know, thank you everyone who's reached out.

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He as I said earlier, he had a tough battle.

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It lasted for almost two months at mass General in Boston,

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and you know, if anyone could have saved him, they

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could have because that's one of the best hospitals with

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one of the best cardiac units in the entire country.

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So if they couldn't couldn't save him, then then no

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one could. So that, you know, there is some some

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solace in that, but but it hurts. It's painful. I

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am planning to do I'm gonna outside of this show,

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I'm going to do a separate podcast about my dad

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at some point where I really just have the time

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and the space to just say everything that I want

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to say about him and and you know, and and

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how he influenced me in my life. And but I'm

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gonna do that. I'm gonna do that separate from the show.

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I'm going to do that on the podcast version, just

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so because that way I don't have the pressure of Okay,

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on on this day, on this particular Saturday morning, in

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this segment, I'm going to talk about my dad. I

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don't I want to be able to just do it

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when I'm ready to do it. And I don't know

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when I'm going to be ready to do it because

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I'm not ready to do it yet. But but but

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it's coming, it's coming. I do want to do that.

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I want to honor him with that, and I want

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to you know, and maybe I can share some things

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about him that my surprise some listeners. I'm sure that

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listeners who knew my dad became familiar with him might

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find it interesting to hear some some childhood stories and

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that kind of thing. So so there's a lot, there's

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a lot there. There's a lot to say. He was

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a very interesting guy, a very complicated guy in some ways.

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Our relationship was complicated in some ways. But you know,

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but it hurts, it's it's hard, and so I I

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do appreciate, I do appreciate everyone who's reached out and

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just you know, keep your eyes and ears open for

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the podcast version of the show. Like I said, could

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be a week, it could be a couple of weeks,

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it could be this weekend.

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Speaker 6: I don't know when I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I'm gonna do it when I'm ready,

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and uh, well I'm sure I'm ready because once I

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turned that microphone on and start going that's you know,

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that's that's it. I'm committed. So but uh so, I

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do appreciate all of you. I think what we're gonna do.

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So earlier in the show, it was in the first hour,

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I played a song that I played, Tears Are Falling

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by Kiss, and I played that because I told the

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story of how my dad was the one who got

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me into, uh really into heavily listening to Kiss and

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he also I remember another band that he and I

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really bonded over was Van Halen when I was a kid.

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And again I'm kind of showing my age here, but

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I have another very nice memory of my father from

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when I was a kid, so we had borrowed again.

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This was during the van the Van Hagar era as

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some people like to call it. Fifty one fifty had

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come out, which is my to this day, my favorite

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Van Halen album, and it was the first album with

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Sammy Hagar on lead vocals, and that was another album

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that both my dad and I just loved and we

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would listen to all the time. And I have a

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particular memory of on video Van Halen had released. It

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was called Live without a net, and it was from

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a show on the fifty one fifty tour when they

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played in New Haven, Connecticut, and so I'd borrowed that.

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I'd borrowed the video of that from a friend, and

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it was that weekend that i'd borrowed it. It was

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a Sunday night, and Dad and I sat and we

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watched the entire thing, the whole two hour concert on video,

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00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,280
and we both really enjoyed it. And Dad was so

481
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,719
into it that at the end of it, he said

482
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,320
to me, now it was getting to be my bedtime.

483
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,519
And something Dad was a little strict about, probably more

484
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,079
than he needed to be. Not to critique him, but

485
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,440
I always I thought this at the time, and even

486
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,039
in hindsight, I still think he was a little bit

487
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,840
strict about making sure on school nights I was in

488
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:50,039
bed at an early enough time, just but he would

489
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:54,079
make exceptions. And he made an exception that night because

490
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,119
we got to the end of watching the video and

491
00:34:58,159 --> 00:35:01,760
it was definitely time for bed, and he said to me,

492
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,920
because he liked it so much, he said, you know what,

493
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,400
we should watch, like the first couple of songs again.

494
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,760
We should start it over and just watch the first

495
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,800
couple of songs and then and then you can go

496
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:19,199
to bed. And I was like, okay, So we started

497
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,920
it over. And here's the thing I knew, because even

498
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,920
though he was a little bit strict about the bedtime,

499
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,159
he did make exceptions.

500
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,679
Speaker 6: I knew.

501
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: Once he committed to that, we'll watch a couple, We'll

502
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,679
watch the first couple. I thought, Oh, I'm staying up

503
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,400
for another two hours because yeah, he's saying that, right,

504
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000
We'll just watch the first couple of songs again and

505
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:43,960
then you can go to bed. But he's not going

506
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,360
to enforce that, you know, because I knew my dad

507
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,639
well enough, you know, and that's something every you know,

508
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,920
all kids, I think, kind of learned that with their parents.

509
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,559
You know, what they say or or it doesn't always

510
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,840
necessarily match up with what they're actually going to enforce.

511
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:02,079
Because my dad overall was not super strict, you know.

512
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:04,760
He I mean, I was an easy kid anyway, because

513
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,800
I wasn't getting into trouble all the time or anything

514
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,320
like that to begin with. So it's not like he

515
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,599
had to be the strict disciplinarian with me to begin with.

516
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:14,119
But but you know, but he wasn't, you know, he

517
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:19,840
wasn't like super strict or anything, so I knew. I

518
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,559
remember thinking, oh, he's gonna let me stay up the

519
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:24,400
whole two hours. He's gonna let me stay up two

520
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,840
hours past my bedtime because he's gonna want to watch

521
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,039
the whole thing over again. And he's not gonna want

522
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:31,199
to send me to bed while he stays up and

523
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,079
watches the rest of it, because that's not cool.

524
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:33,519
Speaker 6: Uh.

525
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: I've got him. He's gonna let me, He's And that's

526
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,119
exactly what happened. I stayed up for another two hours,

527
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,400
two hours passed my bedtime on a school night, and

528
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,119
we watched the entire thing a second time. And that's

529
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,360
just a really uh And I was fine the next day.

530
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,880
I wasn't tired or anything. But but that's just a

531
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,440
childhood memory that has stuck with me. So I think

532
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,519
what I would like to do now is I would

533
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:57,360
like to play my dad's favorite song from the album

534
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,239
fifty one to fifty. It's actually the title track from

535
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,559
the album, and we would listen to it in the

536
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,280
car and I remember my dad was just like, this

537
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,599
is such a great song. So I think what we'll

538
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:13,719
do is I'm gonna play that now. And then I

539
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,719
think I'm gonna place maybe we'll have time to play

540
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,119
a couple other songs that I know that my dad

541
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:20,800
really loved.

542
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:24,599
Speaker 6: I think we should do that.

543
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: I think this is gonna be the end of me

544
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,840
speaking on today's show, though, I think I'm gonna play this,

545
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,639
and then I'm just gonna go ahead and play some

546
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,559
other songs that my dad really loved that I know

547
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,119
connected with him, songs that he and I both loved.

548
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 6: I think that would be a good way to finish

549
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,800
out the hour.

550
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,559
Speaker 4: If you miss any part of today's show, you know

551
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:50,280
the drill, It'll be up in just a little bit

552
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,599
at wm and a radio dot orgon at my website

553
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:58,199
Matt Connorton dot com. And I think that's gonna do

554
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,119
it for me as far as what I have to

555
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,400
say this week. But thanks everyone again who joined us,

556
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,199
and I will I'm gonna play this here it is.

557
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
This is the title track from Van Halen's album fifty

558
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:11,800
one fifty.

559
00:38:13,039 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 6: Love Your Dad, No.

560
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: Blind st First the road h shut up, time to

561
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:41,280
We'd take our chance, we don't begin then snowy shine

562
00:39:43,400 --> 00:40:07,559
will take that O. Wait, God God never says to

563
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,159
want you turn you it's only want me.

564
00:40:16,559 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 7: Me to and know.

565
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:23,519
Speaker 2: What that means.

566
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 9: Feel my grun name politician.

567
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,679
Speaker 3: And just turn to please you.

568
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 9: Ority given you myself the whole condition.

569
00:40:53,239 --> 00:41:19,639
Speaker 2: Running always wonder you never said trow. You know it's

570
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:22,320
only water, so.

571
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 10: Too have the way.

572
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: When you talking about what.

573
00:41:32,280 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 7: That out.

574
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:04,039
Speaker 3: Do sounds, man shall the one.

575
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 11: Something so.

576
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: Don't laugh. We two lf the way. Wait a don

577
00:43:16,599 --> 00:44:02,800
do what dold.

578
00:43:42,960 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 12: What she pays me in sweetness, I gotta re you

579
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:33,679
for sharing dreams on evil on that this harmble expression

580
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:38,679
meagally dresses my aus of mean.

581
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: It has no meaning, but you.

582
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:48,199
Speaker 11: My all a secret courts must be on the telet.

583
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:55,599
Speaker 2: I need my love to translin that plays up beyond

584
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,199
a normal brided hurting.

585
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 10: This time the sky I saved your class on heaving.

586
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: To the sun of Crian.

587
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:13,159
Speaker 12: Even if guided, I'll try the gay because the knive

588
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,199
what song.

589
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:24,679
Speaker 3: I'm from a wrong.

590
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 12: Contected on command neforlessly.

591
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: My mind and sky.

592
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: When I wake up pety day time of.

593
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: Night time, I feel in it.

594
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:49,119
Speaker 11: Going on to reading she has been here but.

595
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 13: Jealous night and on her secret cards on the tempt

596
00:45:58,559 --> 00:46:02,760
in my love to try slaying this start to the

597
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,000
sky sing and plass.

598
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: On hearving.

599
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,639
Speaker 7: To the sun of crying.

600
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 13: They were never mid a frighting gayser because we do

601
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,599
what's fun.

602
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 11: But cannot snid all have secret gods must be there

603
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:56,559
on the tid on me not long the translat Let's

604
00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:57,039
start to.

605
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: The sky, sing in class on him.

606
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:05,199
Speaker 11: To the sun of crime, even if found it.

607
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to gay.

608
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,159
Speaker 10: Because with you what's wrong.

609
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: Doing?

610
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,639
Speaker 11: And lay streaking music spound down the streets.

611
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: I here remember with you.

612
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:49,679
Speaker 10: I have to go because my rock and roll it's.

613
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:51,119
Speaker 3: Burning on wait.

614
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: And the men go on.

615
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 11: Call vaga, happenlessening. My mind is God and were awake.

616
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: Daytime the night.

617
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,159
Speaker 7: I'm vision.

618
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 10: We don't want to breathing. She helps me here, but

619
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:19,039
tell us nine and all.

620
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:24,039
Speaker 11: Her secret cards. I'm must be there on the telephone.

621
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,039
Speaker 10: I need my love to translay.

622
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: With you, my love.

623
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 10: We're going to wait the future.

624
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:45,079
Speaker 3: With you, my love.

625
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 10: We're going to stick.

626
00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:47,119
Speaker 2: Out their beds.

627
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: We want today to.

628
00:48:50,599 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 14: Ransome the Loquard's block stop CONTI yesterday, don't you to day,

629
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,639
don't do yesterday?

630
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: You want don't.

631
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:41,199
Speaker 10: Stops tall.

632
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: Seven six.

633
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: Rouding O.

634
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: Now it say, I'm just astaying until my ste I'm

635
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:11,000
not I'm not casting someone cles the happiness unto the

636
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:12,199
city does.

637
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:18,119
Speaker 3: Not in my other.

638
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: Basic and it's time.

639
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,159
Speaker 7: It's like.

640
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell me, so stay some time. All

641
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:45,400
st st st stuffs, so my good stuff.

642
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 13: What we.

643
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,599
Speaker 15: Go to?

644
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: What's time that happens?

645
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: I doesn't want to.

646
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 7: Tagy's this claim? So we.

647
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: When you got to say talk to make it from

648
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:26,079
one the rats want to cry talk, soletart the western

649
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,119
time always susy.

650
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 7: Starts very.

651
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: Like it start what about song?

652
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 7: The side.

653
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:03,599
Speaker 2: The stars the sun be size of almost great stacks.

654
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:20,320
So make the stand that sound and the sad the

655
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:40,039
stand the all sizes bull stands, so make it stands.

656
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: In the boat.

657
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 10: You're too far side.

658
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,679
Speaker 2: You're not faing on the first time I tell.

659
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 8: You somebod me around.

660
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 9: Rim My Tess said of the thing that I'll persent

661
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:56,199
fruits and the FDA to make myself no.

662
00:54:58,039 --> 00:54:58,519
Speaker 7: My time.

663
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: It is not to answer.

664
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 9: I think if I sing, oh, why I don't.

665
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:07,599
Speaker 5: Show you.

666
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: Time? Not surprising my time?

667
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: Donor s why I don't show you time? Not surprise

668
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,960
save my time?

669
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 10: Donor staying.

670
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: In time to find me sting the la show is

671
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:05,079
a sad bisone as.

672
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,519
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ride ahead, and nobody dead wants.

673
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,639
Speaker 2: So down around.

674
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 8: List enough by tone, you want.

675
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:33,119
Speaker 6: Never speak on what you seen.

676
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:42,159
Speaker 16: How hund you said too much deciding to go for

677
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,559
a little ride had had.

678
00:56:47,519 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 8: You're not coming back.

679
00:56:52,719 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 15: You've seen way too much. You're not coming at You

680
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:05,559
said way too much.

681
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 7: Mother left you with you ten.

682
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,159
Speaker 15: Father you have enu see him.

683
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: My trouble now took you away.

684
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 15: You have to know one on judgment to you.

685
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,239
Speaker 6: Don't come in back.

686
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: You see way too much. You don't come in.

687
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: You said wait till much.

688
00:57:59,440 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 7: You don't.

689
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:18,079
Speaker 8: I want to got you say it's got to bad.

690
00:58:19,800 --> 00:59:06,679
If it ain't you, then it's the haw Percy a

691
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:18,119
muscle Peece forgave mer peace. Begin dow Percy a muscle

692
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,280
Peece forgive mer.

693
00:59:22,639 --> 00:59:23,719
Speaker 12: Teace became.

694
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:29,239
Speaker 8: Ha Mercy on muscle.

695
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:33,559
Speaker 2: Sce begain make peace.

696
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:34,519
Speaker 3: Begin me.

697
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 8: Pal Mercy a muscle.

698
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:41,559
Speaker 3: Pace.

699
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: We gave me.

700
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,079
Speaker 8: Peace, Begin me.

701
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm not coming down

