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Speaker 2: Talks and XTA.
Speaker 3: Talks n X.
Speaker 2: And welcome back to another episode of PWT, Talks and XT.
I'm your host for the evening Nate Lindberg on July fourteenth,
twenty twenty sixth. Kelly is in Dallas, as he mentioned
he would be last week, so or at least I
think he did. He mentioned it to me. I'm assuming
he mentioned it on the show. So here with me
to talk. NXT is friend of the Torch and friend
of the Nate jobn Thanks for joining me tonight.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I had to manage to cram two hours of
NXT and when I got home an hour into the show,
but we managed to make it work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I were a little bit late tonight.
Had to had to make sure that we're able to
all actually watch the show here tonight. So there was that.
There was that, but we did, we did, and we
watched it and everything was good. Before we go on,
I just want to say a big, heartfelt thank you
to everybody that reached out. As Kelly mentioned last week,
my dad passed, and yeah, we knew it was coming.
I didn't necessarily and it was coming this quick, but
you know, it is what it is. But I had
a few of you guys reach out and and things
like that, and Kelly and Kevin gave a nice little
intro last week. So I just wanted to say heartfelt
thank you to everybody for reaching out, and I certainly
appreciate it, certainly appreciate it. With that out of the way,
because that's what my life has revolved around for the
last week and a half two weeks, let's talk about
something else. Let's talk NXT. So before we get into
the main event segment Angle, main event match, let's talk
about the main event Angle. So obviously, Tony, Tony di'angelo
and Iraku have been embroiled in this feud for quite
some time now, a couple of months at least, I
mean Tony did Angelo got his face burned, he got poison,
missed in the eyes and all that good fun stuff.
So we saw Tony and Nraku quite a few times
tonight going at it. There was a segment where Niraku
attacked Tony in the ring. We also had a backstage
with Tony DiAngelo demanding a match from mister Stone. Who's
talking Mister Stone demanding a match against Rocco, demanding to
defend his title too, which I don't know. I mean,
I guess fighting champion, but I don't know. Weird, but
is what it is. Uh. He ended up getting that match,
and then to close out the show after our main
event match tonight, we had Tony D'Angelo attacking No Roco
in the parking lot mister Stone separating both of them
along with a plethora of security and mister Stone then
turned their championship match next week into a street fight. Now,
we just saw Tony D'Angelo versus Iracu at Great American Bash.
Tony was wrestling that entire match with that covering over
his face. We're gonna wind up seeing Tony in Naku again.
I I mean it was a good match, don't get
me wrong, but I'm wondering if this is too quick
or too soon for this rematch. I'm like, where Naku
is such a new person to the on the roster,
It's like, is he going to lose again? I feel
like he can't really lose again. He's lost a lost
I don't know, maybe like fifty to fifty so far
with his booking, give or take, he's lost a couple
of matches. And I don't see Tony D'Angelo necessarily losing it.
He's still sort of knew. I mean, it's early on
in his run. It hasn't been It's been at least
a couple months, a couple few months. At this point.
It doesn't feel like time for Tony to necessarily lose
the title for me. So I don't know which way
they're necessarily going to go here, and whichever way they
go could spell an eminent call up for either one
of them. So let me let me throw to you,
what do you think about this us? And I'm gonna
try and find out why Corbin is barking. I'll be
right back.
Speaker 3: Uh So, I mean, no, I think overall, you know,
it's it's been a fine angle if I don't know
about predictable exactly, but it's fairly fairly standard. I guess
it's it's been fine. It might be a little quick
to be getting back to this since it's only been
what two weeks I think America Bash two weeks.
Speaker 2: Time as a blur right now, so four months ago.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you recently at Great American Bash, and
the only thing I could see with maybe throwing it
out again this quickly, is something's gonna happen to derail
the match, possibly between now and then. You know, we
could have something earlier on in the show and they
you know, move you know, move some matches around or whatever,
you know, do one of those things. Not like we
haven't seen that a bunch of times before, you know,
even just recently with the the whole Sean Spears thing. Yeah,
I think it's you know, I think it's been fine.
Speaker 2: Do you do you think Nrocco has any chance at
all of actually winning.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna says zero chance, but I don't rate
it super highly. Just you know, to your point that
you brought up like A hasn't had the title that long?
Are they really gonna take it off of him that
quickly after all the build up and I'm just here
for one more thing, and you know that like all
of the build up to get to this point, like
to put it on him and then put it on
Rocky like right away. I mean, I'm not gonna say
there's no chance it is w w WEE.
Speaker 2: That's oh, that's very true, very true. I don't think
there's no zero chance either. I'm still leaning Tony D
but I I don't know, I'm I'm it almost feels
like if it almost feels like this match either has
to end in some sort of disqualification or or something
like that. Like I just I don't know. It's it's
tough to actually see where they're going here, And to
be completely honest with you, I love it because it
wrestling can be so predictable so often so when I'm
not able to kind of think about it and figure
out where they're going, like I'm I love that. I'm
I'm all good with that.
Speaker 3: So there's more than one instance of that tonight for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, i'd agree with that. I definitely agree with that.
So yeah, we'll see where I We'll see that winds
up going next week. I like I said, I'm I'm
thinking it's gonna be Tony d But there's definitely a
possibility they pull the trigger on Narrocco and maybe maybe
Tony winds up chasing again, it becomes a two time
NXT champion. You know, Narako only holds it for a
cup of coffee. Actually, you know what, I'm kind of
talking myself into that Naraka winds up holding it for
you know, a month or two, and Tony winds up
chasing it. Naraco, we you know, and I have talked
about it, and I know you and I off air
have talked about it in Naraku probably not being an
NXT for for very long. You know, Naraku wanted to
come to the Performance Center to learn the WWAA thing,
WWE way of doing things. He I think the company
originally wanted him to just go straight to the main roster.
So maybe they do this so they can call Naraku
a former NXT champion and then Tony a two time
NXT champion that I don't know, maybe that.
Speaker 3: Might yeah when they call him. So you know, he
came in, he took NXT by storm. He you know,
got a championship and only whatever, you know, however long
amount of time. Yeah, I mean, like I could definitely
see them going that way with it as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. So yeah, we'll see. We'll
see where that winds up going next week.
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Speaker 2: Our main event match was a triple threat match between
lol of Ice, Klanie Jordan, and Klie Armstrong for the
number one contender to the women's Championship. This went fourteen
minutes and seventeen seconds and looks like it's lol of
Ice lol of Ice going to be challenging for the
NXT Women's title, which is interesting because now that means
in the main event, in the main event spot for
the title for both the men and the women in
is basically the same two matches on the women's match
isn't necessarily going to be taking place next week. But
I just find it kind of interesting that during the
Great American Bash it was lithell of Ice and Kendall
Gray and it was Tony DiAngelo and Naraku. So I
don't know, maybe they're going back to the same well
too quick or whatnot.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but typically we see these rematch, these
rematches on TV and they're usually not successful. But you know,
maybe where they're putting this one in a higher priority spot.
Speaker 2: I like, I don't, Yeah, it's tough to say. It's
tough to say. And like I said, I don't think
this is good. Well they didn't. They didn't announce this
match for next week for between Kendall Gray and Lola Ice,
so you know, so I guess it's really only a
week that we've kind of got those two. Are those
four back in the main main event picture for for
both the men and women, but still just I don't know,
I noticed it. I thought i'd point it out. But
this was a This was a pretty solid match considering
we had a couple a couple multi women matches here tonight,
this one and then the Fatal four Way. I think
I enjoyed the Fatal four Way a little more than this,
But that's not taking anything away from Lola Ice, Klannie
and Kelly personally. Even though lola Ice was the winner here,
I think this is a great showcase for Kelly Armstrong.
I think Kellie might need to work on varying her
move set a little bit, like scoop slam, scoop slam,
scoop slam, scoop slam. And then she did like the
four punch, four punch, four punch. I don't know, I
just I thought it just kind of to me felt
like somebody playing two K and button mashing the same
things over and over again. But little nitpick For the
most part, I really didn't have much, you know, to
say about the match or negative to say about the match.
I think this was a way to kind of get
Kalie Armstrong. Over all, the names are blending together Klannie, Collie, Lizzie, Isy,
but Kalanie and I think this was really a way
to kind of showcase Collie Armstrong's abilities and whatnot and
kind of get her a little bit more time in
front of the crowd. Plus it also tells us what
they think of her right now. She's kind of in
almost like that Soul rucas spot. I think kind of
maybe where Soul was always like dancing around the title
and getting opportunities didn't quite get there. They might be
kind of seeing something like that for Kellie Armstrong, where
she could be you know, a upper a solid mid
to upper mid card player, which I think she could
certainly certainly be. So yeah, let me throw to you
on this and your thoughts on who potentially could come
out Women's champion between Lola Ice and Kendall Gray.
Speaker 3: I mean, over all the match, like you said, you know,
it's fine. You know, Cali's looking pretty good. Yeah, definitely
could use a little variability in her moves, you know,
a lot of power, which is great. I mean obviously
that's you know, seems to be the role that she's
here to fill now that we've lost you know, Lash
the main roster and you know a few other people.
Colonie kind of leaning more into that that heel. You know,
he'll it's like I wouldn't. I don't know. It's been
it's been an interesting heel turn for her because it's
kind of been a little more gradual than your typical
turn where it's just like boom, I'm a heel now
because they made a note about her pulling the ref
over I made. I thought that was great. And yeah,
Lola's definitely been looking considerably better lately than she has
in the past. I think that the time down in
Triple A has been doing her a lot of good,
so maybe could telegraph certain things a little less for
a couple of a couple of points where I it was
like very obvious that she was like moving into or
out of the way of something which you know is
like it you know, it's a nitpicky thing, but just something.
Speaker 2: No I and I hear you. And that's something, to
be honest that I've been noticing quite a bit over
the last like a year or so with n XT
in general, is I feel like NXT does not allow
or allow time to breathe between moves and let things
sink in. And you're going from move to move to
move to move, and you get these moments where the
wrestlers are going, oh, oh, I'm not in the right spot,
and you know, and they kind of and you very
if you know what you're looking for, it's blatantly obvious
that and I and it was the the finish to
this match in particular for me with with there was
one camera angle where Kalani hits hits Lola, I forget
with what and Lola kind of like does a bit
of a back roll and then you can see her
like trying to get herself positioned in the corner so
then she could get up just I mean, but it's
just little things like that. But that's that's that's a
lull of thing. But it's also something I noticed it
with Mason Rook two weeks ago. And there's a few
others as well, I just can't think of right now.
But but that is a agains Goodfellow just said in
the chat lack of reps.
Speaker 3: Lack of rep Yeah, I mean that that's for sure.
A part of it is. I mean, you know a
lot of these people are newer, so you know there
there is some of that to be expected. Hi, Brian,
thank you, Yes, Brian, what's up? Yeah? So yeah, I
mean like that is that is for sure. A part
of it is the lack of of just repetition in general,
which will come with time. But yeah, I think there
may be a little I don't know, overbooking happening that's
causing some confusion rather than just letting people wrestle. But
I mean that's, you know, entirely speculation. Uh. And I
also wanted to point out that Klani got kicked in
the face so many times, and that they had to
be like eight or nine times through the entire course
of the match. She just kept getting kicked in the
face over and over again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's definitely a few that I noticed myself. But yeah,
in the Chad Goodfella comes in saying that I think
a second run for Lola could be interesting, see what
she has and see if she's evolved. I'm not necessarily, like,
not in favor of Lola winning title. I really want
to see what Kendall can do as champion and being
on top. I think it's interesting, and she's definitely over
right now, so I don't necessarily want to see Kenda
lose the belt, especially so quickly. But Lola had a
very underwhelming run, and I don't know, you know, there's
part of me that's like, she had a very underwhelming run,
so we should just move on, maybe give her a
chance down the road. But there's also another part of
me that's kind of like, now, maybe we give her
another chance now and see if she can redeem herself.
And honestly, I don't necessarily blame Lola completely for that.
I think it was mostly booking, you know, Lola a
week after week just coming out and getting in the
middle of the ring and saying how awesome I am,
and then somebody interrupting her, and sometimes there would be
a brawl and sometimes there wouldn't. But there was like
five or six weeks in a row of that. So yeah,
I think her well run was a little bit underwhelming.
So I'm not opposed to get opposed. That was the
word I was looking for earlier. I'm not opposed to
giving her another run with the belt. I just think
it might be worth doing down the line a little bit,
even if it's like three four five months down the line,
give it a little bit of time to breathe, and
also some time to allow Kendall to grow a little
bit and grow into the championship. Because right now Kendall
Gray is champion. I love it, but it also doesn't
feel right. I feel like she's, you know, very new
to the roster, and her character is so black thereof
really we know, she isn't a character. Yeah, Cake isn't
a character. You know, but obviously her hard work and
dedication and all that, and I mean that's the character
that they're going off of.
Speaker 3: But and again it's you know her, her in erring
ability is absolutely there, So like that's certainly not an issue.
It's just we need some character work for sure.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly So, I don't know. I want to see
Kendall get get some time to develop, develop into the
title and grow into the title. Uh, and see kind
of a character hopefully develop in that time. But it
would also be interesting to see Lola, you know, get
get a second shot and and see if she could,
like I said, redeem that, redeem that run. So and
we'll see, we'll see.
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Speaker 2: All right, Jackson Drake defeats Tavon Heights ten minutes and
thirty six seconds. This was the second match for Vanity
Project tonight. There's a tag team match that we'll talk
about a little bit later, but they won that match,
they won this match. Vanity Project is on top as
far as I'm concerned. I love this trio. Well, I
was gonna say trio, it is no longer a trio.
This foursome the addition of Myle Lockwood. I've said it
many times before and I'm gonna say it again. I
think is such a beautiful fit for Vanity Project on
so many different levels. She reminds me many like she
reminds me of of that China character, the Diesel character
that's you know that the bodyguard or Virgil for that matter,
the bodyguard to the bigger stars. And I think she's
pulling this off perfectly. It was it was tag match
that she got involved in. That's what I was thinking of, uh,
never mind, I'm talking to myle Lockwood, but that all
of that stuff. But I was going to talk about
in tag teams, you know, tag team match, not necessarily
this one, but that's totally fine, totally fine. It's been
a very long week, but this, you know, this one
I thought was really good. You know, we've had some
some animosity between Tavion Heights, Miles Bourne, UH, Tavan Heights,
Miles Born, and UH Vanity Project for a handful of weeks.
Now you know, we saw a little backstage segment with
Milesbourne Tavion Heights Miles basically telling him to take Jackson out.
This this was There was a lot of good wrestling
on this show, and I don't want to say this
is my favorite match in the night. I think it
was a fatal four way, which is crazy because I'm
not always a huge fan of fatal four ways, but
that was such a good match. This was right up
there for me. You know, Jackson Drake as young as
he is, I think he's twenty. I think he's twenty six,
might be twenty five, twenty six, something like that, but
he's Uh. I was about to say a good fella
in the chat just did good fellaw goes. I'm a
Jackson Drake, I'm here for his journey, And what I
was about to say was he bumps great. He is
a bump machine. He makes anybody that he's in the
ring with look like a million bucks while also making
himself look like a million bucks. I think Jackson Drake
has a huge upside. I think all of the members
of Vanity Project dude, Jackson Drake especially, and I think
that was really showcased here in this match tonight. The
finish was a little bit weird where you know, Tavon
got that roll up and it didn't really seem like
it was the win. And actually we also saw another
spot like that in the Triple Threat that we were
just talking about. We forgot to bring up where there
was that spot where I think it was Collie rolled
up Kilani. No Kilanie rolled up Collie and it could
it was very clearly a three count, and the referee
didn't allow it to be a three count.
Speaker 3: I yelled two point nine out loud when that happened.
Speaker 2: Right, So, you know, back to back matches we had
very similar I wanted to I was gonna say similar
spots I don't think that the Kilani and Collie thing
was a spot. I think it was an accident. But
obviously that had happened in the in the prior match
here with Jackson Drake Tavion Heights. So Jackson Drake kind
of sneaking out the win here, Tavon like immediately sits
up and he's like, what the hell just happened. I
don't think this is over between Tavyon and Milesbourne probably
for that matter as well and Vanity Project. I can
even see Jackson Drake potentially challenging Miles Bourne in the
near future for the North American title. He could say
something along the lines of, you know, he's he's already
beaten Tavon Heights, which was his last challenger, so now
it's my turn to step up, or something like that.
So I'm here for it. So let me throw to you,
Jackson Drake, Tavon Heights, and anything else about the Vanity
Project that you want to bring up now rather than
during the tag match.
Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah, I don't have a ton to
add on top of what you already said, but you know,
oh I checked while you were while you were going
over all that Jackson Drake is only twenty two.
Speaker 2: Twenty two, okay, one twenty six. I thought it was
Jackson Drake. It might have been Ricky.
Speaker 3: Ricky maybe is twenty six.
Speaker 2: I think Ricky. I think Ricky is the oldest one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, very very young, you know, incredible
for uh you know, for being so young. Great acting
on his part, like when he like cowered in the corner,
he legitimately looked terrified, like I have all the props
for that. Like that was that was very very well done.
A lot of really interesting reversals in this match specifically
that I thought were pretty cool that I at least
I have not seen before. The Northern Lights reversal from
the DDT especially was very cool. But then they just
kind of continued that probably three four, maybe five more
times after that, just uh, you know, very interesting, like
like I don't know what the term I'm looking for
is like a like they didn't like counter it in
a traditional way, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
Say that I thought was pretty cool. And the crowd
definitely seems to be really really really high on Tavon
right now, like you know, big pops for them, and
that's that.
Speaker 2: And it's great to see that the crowd is behind
Tavon the way that they are. So Actually, you and
I went to uh uh NXT taping in Lowell, Massachusetts
almost a year ago.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: It was Heatwave. That's right, it was Heatwave last year
last and it was Tavion Heights and oh what was
her name? The wrestler. She was an Olympic wrestler, Tyra
may Steele. Tavion and Tyra may Steele versus Ethan Page
and Chelsea Green and Chelsea and Ethan. The heels obviously
got the biggest reactions here. Tavion's reaction was meant. And
the prior show that I had seen back into Somber
of the same year, same thing with Tavion. His his
reaction was meant, but like he started to win over
the crowd as time went on. Oh excuse me, I'm
so glad to actually see it's his Tavian. I feel
like is so deserving of that praise from the crowd.
I mean, obviously Olympic athlete. I wanted to see him
get away from that because that I don't know, We've
seen that trope many times now with many different wrestlers
once to see him get away from that, but still
it's it's something that I think we should still talk about,
and they do with, you know, with this character. So
he's certainly worth uh. I think he's certainly worth the
investment that they've put into him so far. And he's
finally I feel like he's finally starting to find himself.
A good fella in the chat, says Tavion an NXT
for a couple of years while he finds himself. I
would employ him for that. I'm interested. He also says
Tavian needs some seasoning, he needs to figure it out,
and I think he's starting to figure it out. He's
starting to kind of get that that rapport with the
crowd and uh and and figuring out who he is
as as a character, who Tavion Heights really is. He's
coming into his own. He's a little edge to him
where sometimes he might might lean heel a little more,
might lean face a little more. I'm not saying he's
necessarily a tweener, but we're showing, you know, he's kind
of showing his range here. So yeah, I'm I don't know,
I'm I'm a big I'm big on Tavion Heights. I'm
big on Jackson Drake. This This roster is just beaming
with talent in general right now. So it might be
a new fledgling roster, but we've got we've got so
many people we can look at all right. My favorite
match of the night twelve minutes, forty six seconds. It
was the NXT Women's North American Championship fatal four way
Czaria defeating is He Dame, Lizzie Rain and Nikeitha Lyons.
Is He in that doesn't get confusing?
Speaker 3: Whatsoever we had is Lizzie then we had the Kaalie
Kalani a lot of that tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at least we don't have two bronze in
the same faction. But I digress. So Layla Diggs gets
she was supposed to be in this match, supposed to
be a Zaria versus Layla Diggs tonight for the North
American Championship. Over the weekend in a house show. It
was not Sarasota, Florida, but it was another place in
Florida that begins with an S. At a house show,
she ended up getting injured or injuring her arm like legit,
so they had to take her out of the match
here tonight, and they placed her it did to figure
out who was going to face her. We had a
bit of a backstage segment with Nikita, Lyons, Carmen Petrovich,
Naddy and Layla, as well as Lizzie Rain Izzy Dame,
all kind of trying to figure out who was supposed
to be who should be taking place taking Lala's place
in this match. Mister Stone winds up making it a
fatal four way between Izzy, Lizzie, Nikita, and Zaria, and
they went out there and had a banger of a match.
I'm assuming they needed to put this match together really quick. Well,
they must have put this match together really quick, considering
this just happened with Layla over the weekend. I think
it was Sunday night, if my memory serves correctly. From
what I read online earlier, I didn't think it was
time for Zaria to lose her title yet. This is
the title that Zaria has been fighting for for almost
two years now to capture. I mean, obviously Soul Ruga
didn't have it for two years, but that was a
two year long storyline that kind of culminated in in
the North American championship win for a Zaria. Everything that
we saw at Azaria. This match is what I want
to see out of Zaria and what I wanted to
see out of Zaria, you know, from from the the
spear into the F five for the finish, the just
the screaming, the the powering up after you know, the
hulking up right after getting you know, hit that you
beat down. No selling, I guess it's a good way
to put it. No selling some of her opponent's offense
and things showing how much of a monster and power
how she really is. This is what I wanted out
of Zaria from the beginning, and I'm so happy we're
actually here and we're able to witness this version of
Zaria now, you know, like I've seen some of her
stuff on the indies, you know as as Daria, and
it was that was what I was expecting, you know,
when she hit, when she hit an x T. Very
glad that's where we're at right now. I think this
match was a great highlight for all four women. All
four women had some you know, their moment in this match.
Isy Isy Dame is I think the biggest standout for
me here. Obviously, she didn't win the match, but that
choke slam looked great. As weird as it is to
see other people that aren't like the Undertaker or Caine
doing a choke slam, even Damian Priest and stuff still
looks weird to me, but whatever, It's one of my
favorite wrestling moves, so I'm not going to complain. I
think there was, you know, a great choice, great choice
there for her kind of shows how she can be
a bit of a powerhouse wrestler and all of that.
But yeah, I think, you know, this was a great
showcase for all four women. Everybody came out of this
match looking better than they did when they went into it,
even Nikita is for all of the hate that we
have given Nikita Lyons over the years, on this show,
I got to give credit where credit is due. She
looked really good tonight. You know, it looks like she's
you know, dropped a little bit of weight. Not that
I'm body shaming or anything like that, but I think
that's definitely helped to some of her agility and whatnot
in the ring. But she's she looks like she's put
the work in and is trying to hone her craft,
and I think that was rewarded with the Evolved Championship
and all of that. So props to Nikita Lyons for
stepping up and honing her craft, getting a little bit
better where she was before.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, let me throw over to you here on
our women's Fatal four Way for the North American title.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like my my big note specifically, you
know with Czaria is that she's finally booked like she
really should have always been, you know, not that I
didn't enjoy, you know, probably the majority of the bizarre
and soul Ruga storyline. This is so much better, you know,
this is you know, like you said, you know what
she was doing in the indies, like this is what
she does. So it's fun to actually finally get to
see some of that. Yeah, Izzy's I mean, you know,
we've talked about this a bunch of you and I
and then also I know you and Kelly have talked
about it, Like Izzy's definitely come a law long way
when we were all talking like we I think specifically,
there was a match when you and I had went
to Raw a couple of years ago that she was
in that we all got up and went to the
bathroom because we just didn't care about it that much.
Speaker 2: Like that was the bathroom actually think you're right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I can't remember who else was in it,
but I think it was like her and Lola and
like somebody else and we just went yeah, no, we
don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have actually might have been made.
Speaker 3: I don't remember it wasn't a main evout of smack
in the middle of the show. But yeah, we got some,
you know, a little advancement on the the you know
Natty Jada, you know whatever her little faction and temporary
faction is called. You know, we got all that, you know,
that advanced a little bit. And Yeah, Lizzie definitely somebody
to keep watching. I think she's she's already right there.
Anytime they want to do something awesome with her, they
can feel free.
Speaker 2: Good fella in the chat, says Lizzie, with her diamond
cutters and her entrance. I ponder is she ready for
the main roster. I mean, I don't think so just yet.
But I think if they were to pluck her out
right now and put her on the main roster, should
be okay, should be fine. But I really want to
see her kind of get her feet wet a little
bit more here in NXT. Maybe get a championship under
her belt, your North American Championship Women's Tag titles. Maybe
if they happen to ever come back to NXT something
like that. That's a fever dream. And Lizzie's not winning
the tag title, that's just a fever dream. But you know,
maybe get the North American title under her belt or
something like that before she goes up. But I think
she's going to I think one of two things is
gonna happen on the main roster. And I hate saying it,
but I think she's either going to really connect with
everybody with this character, or it's gonna flop and people
just are gonna think that it's a little that it's outdated.
I I don't think the latter. I think is she's
going to be fine on the main roster, and I
think people are going to like that nostalgia, especially if
and they I don't know if they've actually said it
on WWE TV that she's got ties with you know,
Iron Maiden, their uncle's an Iron Maiden or not.
Speaker 3: They might have brought it up during her debut. I
vaguely remember them saying something about I don't know how
specific they got, but.
Speaker 2: They might have said something vague about it. They may
have not said Iron Maiden or but I think that
now that you say that, I think they might have
said like she has some familial ties to the rock
industry or something along.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're to like a metal legend or yeah,
up a little more than that. But yeah, it wasn't.
I don't recall anything being like, yeah, she's so and
so's this family member.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can't think of his name. I remember,
I know, I know it in the back of head somewhere.
But but yeah, I think, you know, once she does
make it up to the main roster, I think people
are going to really like this. I think, like I said,
I think it's going to be one or two things.
I think. I do think the chances of people liking
the nostalgia and things are going to be higher than
the people that think it's outdated. But I think once
you also find out, as I was saying, we find
out that, you know, she does have the familial ties
to Iron Maiden and things like that, people may wind
up appreciating it a bit more, or they might think she's
just trying to make a cash grab off of it.
I don't know. People are weird in twenty twenty six,
I know you know that. All right, Let's uh, let's
keep on keeping on here. We had Naraku facing Tate
Wilder in eight minutes fifty five seconds, Duraku taking the
win as he probably should be, considering he's challenging for
the title once again, and Tate Wilder, I believe it
was memory Serves was as he was making his entrance.
There was a little picture and picture where Tate was
kind of talking about about himself but also this match
in particular, how this was actually a pretty big match
for him because he was going up against the last
challenger to the NXT Championship. He's like, if I can
beat him, and I mean, that's that's a huge win
in my book. And he's absolutely right. You know, if
you're able to somebody like Tate Wilder, who's just getting
you know, brand new to the roster, just getting his
feed wet in the NXT brand, if you're able to
beat somebody that was just your challenging for the title,
I mean I almost think you could make, you know,
in k fabe, you could make a claim like, hey,
I just beat this guy who was good enough to
face the champ. I should be good enough to face
the champ. So I think, you know, I think it works. Tate.
I'm it's so Tay whit. It's my feelings of Tay
Wilder is so weird because he is such a great athlete,
but he is such a punchable face and those are
Kelly's words, not mine. But there's just something about him.
I think. I think it's his look and his the
way that he talks about himself, how he is a
little bit overconfident and kind of, for lack of a
better term, kind of like a bro. I don't know,
I really think Tay Wilder would make a dynamite heel
as a face, I'm not really buying it. I see
him as a lower mid card mid card wrestler as
a face. As a heel, I could see him mid
like upper mid card, maybe toying with the you know,
main event level scene if they needed him to, maybe
somebody like a Dolph Ziggler or something like that, you know,
for a quick, down and dirty comparison. But you know,
this I think was a this is a fun match.
This really allowed it allowed Tate to get his stuff in.
And I mean, as is our as our most NX
TAM matches, you know, kind of fifty to fifty with
with offense between the two, that was this match too.
But I think, you know, Tate was able to get
a lot of stuff in and and look look credible,
I guess is what I'm trying to say even though
he did lose to Naraco, which makes sense, as I said,
considering where Nako is going to be going next week.
So yeah, let me let me throw to you on
this and well yeah and this. There was nothing else.
It was just this.
Speaker 3: So my question to you is this, Yes, it is
his gimmick, just the people we went to high school with,
because like he's dressed like a high school student from
two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, he's you were like a shirt you
were still in high school in two thousands.
Speaker 3: That's it's just I don't know, there doesn't like you said,
They're like, he's a great athlete, what's the character? Yeah,
what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of feels like we're talking about with Kendall.
Like I think, you know, Tate has a little bit
more energy and he has that arrogance and cockiness about him,
but they're trying to present it in that in a
face way where I think all of that stuff lends
to to him being a heel, And I don't know,
I I think if they leaned into that, he could
be a really solid heel.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because as it is, like you know, you know,
Cocky can be a really good character trait, but like
Cake isn't a character. I don't think Cocky on its
own is a particularly interesting character. But again it's you know,
he hasn't been around that long. It's you know, we'll
see exactly where, you know, where he kind of takes this,
you know, in the long run. But yeah, so yeah,
you get all that, you know, all his offense and
kind of upfront made him look a little stronger coming
out of the gate, and you know, obviously Naraku picking
up the win in the end, you know, still makes
him look strong, as you said, going into you know,
yet another match against the NXT champion already in a
very short amount of time. Uh, he had that cool
slim blade backbreaker thing. I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Was cool, And almost no reaction for no Roku winning
that I noticed, Like not a big pop. I don't know,
like I guess maybe people either aren't sold on him
yet or just have seen too much of him already.
Speaker 2: I think people just didn't think Tate had any chance
of winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could just be that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I chalk it up to, because Naku
has gotten pretty solid reactions up to, like, up to
this point, and the crowd did pop in the you know,
when we went to the very last segment of the
show on the parking lot, you could hear the crowd
pop there. But so I'll chalk it up to that.
But that's that's something because actually, to be honest, I
didn't notice that with the crowd reaction.
Speaker 3: It's not that there was no pop at all, like
you said, you know, they popped for things throughout the
match and all that, but yeah, they're just for the win.
Yeah yeah, And it's probably like you said, it's it's
very likely that people just didn't think Tate Wilder had
any hope of winning. So they're just like, yep, that's
what I because that's what I'd be doing if I
was sitting in that seat. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I figured.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably a couple of little claps or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, a little polite.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, but but yeah, I think I think the
match was certainly solid. I think Tate Wilder has as
a great ceiling, you know, really high ceiling, but I
I don't think it's as a face.
Speaker 3: Maybe road I would love to see that heel turn
happen and give him a little time with that, and.
Speaker 2: And maybe that's what they're building towards. You know, maybe
they're they're they're they're kind of they're presenting him right
now as this cocky, you know, kind of over I
don't I was gonna say like over arrogant, but I
don't even know if that's a word, but like cocky,
arrogant type, you know type face. And I think maybe
some people backstage might wind up getting like sick of
it or something like that, or he gets put in
the tag team and you know, even if it's for
like one night, and you know, he winds up like
ticking off his uh his partner partners or something along those.
I don't know, but I could see them certainly, uh
certainly getting that getting that down the line. Reverend Keith
in the chat comes in saying Layla Diggs was injured
at the NXT Live event and see bring Florida. I
knew it began with an S. I knew it wasn't Sarasota,
and I knew it began with an S. So that's
where it was, which is certainly a bummer because Layla Laila,
from what I've seen from her so far, I definitely
like and I think that would have been a good
spot for her. You know, obviously I think she would
have lost the match, but I think it would have
been a good spot for us. It certainly is a
shame that she didn't get to compete tonight. All right,
let's go to our opening match here tonight. This was
the first match for the Vanity Project. Brad Brayler and
Ricky Smokes defeats Sean Legacy and DVD Dorian Van Dukes
in thirteen minutes and ninety seconds. I think this is
a This is a really awesome, energetic, frenetic opener. It
I think this might have been my second match to
the night now that I think, like, if I really
think back on it, and that's tough to say. It's
like I said, there's a lot of good wrestling on
this match, but I love wrestling on this show tonight,
but this this might be for me, this like especially
that spot with that like springboard assisted springboard spot, uh
where DVD like launches Sean legacy into the air from
the second rope onto the Vanity Project ringside before they
I'm assuming cut the commercial. I watch on Netflix, so
I don't always get commercials, but uh, that was like
I've seen moves like that before. I've seen I've even
seen them in person, I like an indie show, but
I wasn't expecting it at that time. And the camera
angle and everything, I mean, it looked like he was
about to touch the ceiling. That was super, super impressive.
So I gotta gotta give credit what credit is due there.
Vanity Project, as I mentioned earlier, I think are on fire.
This is I can't remember it was. It might have
been good Fella, it might have been Ryan. I don't
remember a few weeks ago, but somebody, somebody in the
chat kind of compared to them an Undisputed Era, and
I think I don't think they're there yet. I don't
think they're there yet. Give it six months and maybe
you know, I think Undisputed Era might still be a
number one, like number one versus Vanity Project. Maybe be
a two or three or something like that, and you
know with the XT stables, because I think, you know,
undisputed Er just had that edge to them. You know,
they were gold hungry. I mean at one point they
held all the titles in n XT. So yeah, but
I still think it's a pretty damn good comparison, probably
one of the better comparisons that I can think of.
I think Vanity Projects upside is huge, huge, especially, like
I said, if they continue on with My My Lockwood
and if they want to really really turn the three
of those guys heels, have them turn on mya Lockwood
maybe a year down the road or something like that,
because I think the people love it or love her,
especially as part of that stable. But as I said,
there's a very fun match Vanity Project. You know, picking
up the win again makes sense considering the trajectory that
they've been on. I wouldn't expect them to lose to
a tag team that I don't want to say was
thrown together, because they weren't necessarily thrown together, but they're
kind of thrown together within the last handful of weeks.
And we've seen a couple of times now that they
haven't actually been on the same page backstage anyway, which
I have a feeling is a story that may wind
up leaning out into the ring at some point. So oh,
and good fellow in the chat, hope Adam Cole is healthy.
Shout out to him. I definitely want to second that.
I don't know exactly, I don't remember exactly what was
going on, but I know there was some health issues
that and Cole was reading about. So yeah, that that
guy is super talented. So even if he wasn't super talented,
I don't want to see anything bad happen anybody. So
there is that.
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Speaker 2: So, with all of that said, let me throw to
you on the opener for Vanity Project versus the Former
Evolved guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been super fun to watch these guys, you
know kind of of uh, you know, build this, build
this tag team up. You know, they they definitely seem
to have very complimentary move sets, I guess is a
good way to put it.
Speaker 2: Ud, Yes, sorry, yeah, with yeah, with Legacy and Van
Ducks or was it Van.
Speaker 3: Van Van Ducks and Dukes.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, so with the two of them, you know,
definitely yeah, like I said, in a very complimentary move sets. Uh,
you know, both both of them really showing some like
excellent Matt skills which is just always fun to watch
and a lot of really like creative offense, like a
lot of the the leap frogging moves that they're doing,
or even there was like a like a tag in, uh,
like overhand strike to break up a grapple, like you know,
because normally I just grabbed the guy and kind of
rip him off of him. So just like little touches
that I think are very interesting, you know. And then
we get some some fun like individual stuff like the
tag in, uh, the tag to ring in, the leg
drop like right over the top rope I thought was
pretty neat, you know, nothing we haven't seen before, necessarily
not a thing that you see all the time, which
is kind of fun. The yeah, the like assisted springboard dive,
you know was what's that? Yeah? Like that was maybe
the coolest individual moment of the night. You know, maybe
not the best match overall, but definitely the most interesting
single move I think of the entire night between you know,
just how cool that move is period. And then uh,
you know, good camera work on top of that, uh,
you know, nice high energy match all the way through.
There was at least like five spots where I thought
the match was done, and then they kept kept pulling
it away. And pulling it away. So like, big credit
to that, because usually we all watch a lot of wrestling,
usually telling the matches about over uh. And they managed
to confuse me pretty much the whole way through. UH.
And then Vanity Project are continuing to be excellent at
being little weasily heels and I love a little weasily heels.
Oh yeah, that's why I've been a big fan of
like Dom Mysterio for example. Like he's so good at that,
like little weasily like gonna find a way to sneak
out or into wherever they need to be. Uh. And
they you know, they're filling that role perfectly.
Speaker 2: He follows in his father Eddie's footsteps.
Speaker 3: You're right exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, we got a we got a whole bunch
of non wrestling segments here tonight, so let's go through
some of these. We have Saquon Sugars, Ryan fined a
couple of teammates to take on Dark State. Now I
have to say my prediction was squashed. I thought that
they I thought that Saquon was going to wind up
getting OTM on his side and OTM with the first
team to turn him down tonight, basically saying Hey, you
remember a Dark State not that long ago, like, why
should we trust you? And that was basically the same
story for the next team that Saquon Sugars went up
to that would be Honk Honk, Hank and Tank. I
don't know why I said Honk Konk, I just felt
like it whatever, But Hank and Tank they were talking
to e K Parsper backstage, Saquon Sugars comes up to
them and tried to recruit them against Dark State, considering
Hank and Tank have a history with Dark State, and
Hank Tank essentially said the same thing you were just
with Dark State, why should we trust you? Especially keep
walking around with that bat. Then the team that I
did not, I don't think I would have even thought
of to be the ones to eventually agree to team
with Saquon Sugars. Uh No am Dar and Romeo Moreno.
He kind of Romeo Moreno, he's he's his character. He's
been trying to figure out a way to get ahead
and and be you know, kind of more on top
and push his way up the card a little bit more.
And uh he kind of figured that this might be
a shortcut to get to the tag team titles. Or
at least launched themselves up the tag team totem Pole
if you will. So, yeah, you know, Sugar's Sugar's kind
of challenged Doe m Dar's pride and you know, saying
are you ready? Would you are you? Can you do this?
You know, are you ready for something like this? And
and they were, you know, yeah, what have Yeah, you know,
basically wanted to prove him wrong. Dar wanted to prove
Sugar is wrong. So so yeah, it looks like that's
who's going to be teaming up with saquon Sugars take
on Dark State and won't be a three on one
handicap age after all. Anything on Bacon and uh his hunt.
Speaker 3: For some partners, I mean the other thing to add
is I thought it was very funny. Yeah, that was
a good segment, Like yeah, because yeah, like everybody's finding
outs like yeah, dude, why should we trust? No, no,
go away. You get just over and over and over again.
It's like, yeah, if you if you're kind of an
asshole all the time, you're probably not gonna make any friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's something that Wade talks about
all the time, is the stupid babyface and you know
how many times you see babyfaces make stupid decisions just
to advance the story. And I feel like this is
one of those times where the babyfaces let common sense
win and it's like, why should we trust you? Like,
why would we trust you? You're you know, you know,
just because now you've turned on these guys. What makes
us think you're a different person? And that's what they
should be thinking, as rational like people with brain cells.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, babyfaces tend to get the like too pure of
heart story, you know, like mines where it's like it's okay,
you didn't mean it. I believe in you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and that so I appreciate that here,
especially with OTM, you know, even though that was my
prediction for who was going to wind up teaming with Sugars,
I really like it because like Sugar sorry, OTM, you know,
they have a team. They've been a team that you know,
they keep getting these stop and start pushes that you know,
whether it's due to injuries or just spot on the
card or whatnot. You know, it's been a two or
three years now where it's like stop, start, stop start.
I feel like they're kind of getting that push again.
I'm hoping there's no stop uh no stop here, and
I think you know them turning him down. Sure they
might not get a match out of it, but at
least they don't look stupid. So I gotta give him that.
Tristan Angels destroys Shiloh Hill's tooth. Tristan came out to
the ring and essentially talked about how awesome he is
and how much of a hillbilly Shiloh Hill is, especially
with the tooth. Tristan confiscated Swipe the tooth last week
and yeah he had it, had it with him. This week,
he walked over to the steps, the steel steps ringside
and stomped the tooth, completely destroying it. Shiloh Hill appeared
on the screen, said a few things, said a few
things to Tristan Angels and essentially kept telling him, was
the fog is coming? I think it was excited. Yeah,
the fog is coming. And with that amazing, awesome, shrieking laugh,
fog started filling the arena. So really really curious to
see what this means for the next for Shiloh. Is
he just not going to have the tooth anymore? Like
that was kind of one of his things, Like you know,
in the middle of the match when he met business.
Rather than pulling the straps down on his single itt,
it was take the tooth out. Is he going to
be completely toothless now on TV? I in a way,
I kind of hope so, because I think that helps
play up how crazy this character actually is. But I
also like the dichotomy of him being a little bit
more and I use this word loosely, a little bit
more normal when he had you know, had had the
tooth in, but when the tooth came out was kind
of when he went a little crazy. I kind of
like that as as that signal to the audience to
know what kind of which Shiloh Hill you were getting.
If they're getting rid of that, I'm totally fine with that.
I'm thinking we may wind up seeing that crazy Shiloh
Hill a little bit more than the more subdued Shiloh Hill,
if that's the case. But I could be wrong. But
I don't know what the fog is coming means. I
can't wait to find out. I know you were a
massive fan of the man Shiloh Hill thunder Justice Keck
as he was known or is known outside the WWE,
which still blows my mind. That his name is thunder
Justice and that's not his ring name, but I diggess.
Speaker 3: And I think it's weirder that I knew about him
first from internet creepypastas before I knew about him from
w WWE.
Speaker 2: That's right, you know, like that, which blows my mind.
But still and I love the fact that he still
does a lot of that creepypasta stuff, like whether y'ah.
Speaker 3: The thing that I knew him from was this whole
thing with the shoe man and he just over I
don't know. The last month or two has been like
continuing that saga along on his Instagram and also tying
it in with you know a lot of his like
WWE work, which is great. There's like one video is
something about you know, finding a cat or something, and
he's just in the whole mister NXT get up and
he just like sets the staff down and he goes, oh,
don't don't worry about what I'm wearing. I just came
from work, and then just goes into this entire other thing.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I have seen that.
Speaker 3: It's so good off to find you with the saga
on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, but anything on anything on the tooth
and the Fog is coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I could see them maybe, depending on
how long this storyline runs, potentially you know, bringing the
tooth back as as the you know as the heads
or tails I guess, you know, as so, like I
could see them definitely bringing it back later on, maybe
not right away. The Fog, though, I think, will be
interesting because he did show up is it two weeks two,
two or three weeks ago? I can't remember now where
he showed up like under the Ring and he like
choked him out in like that mask.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: So I'm guessing this is a this is his demon,
this is his Fiend, this you know, his like transformation
basically is he he'll have a powered up mode that
we'll get to see that I assume will be that
whatever this Fog character ends up being.
Speaker 2: His power levels over nine thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure will be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I'm very I'm so excited. Like when they first
did that that little under the Ring segment with the
Fog is coming, the Fog is coming, the Fog is here,
I thought that was excellent. Definitely gave me a lot
of of the Fiend specifically you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I kind of got those vibes a little
like a little bit, a little little little bit tonight
a very different character, but I did kind of get
those those supernatural, like fiendesque type vibes.
Speaker 3: Gace, He's played that up a bunch his friends in
the woods and you know, like all these like allusions
to cryptids.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't think, Yeah, I didn't think about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's what I assume, you know, coming from
a like a you know, horror background, you know, doing
more of a you know, supernatural themed character doing something
you know, you know, not nothing that's super obvious, but
like they did a whole thing about him and Tatum
getting lost in the back rooms on social media, like
around the time that the movie was coming out, like
not specifically tied to it or anything as far as
I'm aware. Yeah, he's definitely leaning more into the into
the spooky side of wrestling, which I'm always a big
fan of.
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Speaker 2: I would love to see him be like the next
great supernatural like Gimmick, you know, because of his background,
you know, because of his background in that creepy pasta
space and horror and his love for horror and things. Yeah,
I mean that was essentially what made bray Wyatt such
a great, a great mind for that horror was his
just love and his passion for it. You know. I'd
love to see something like that, Like we were robbed
of what the Fiends could have been for multiple reasons. A.
Bray Wyatt is no longer with us, But b Vince
just didn't know what the how the hell to book
the guy, and then they let him go and he.
Speaker 3: Was too creative for his own good. I guess is yeah, yeah,
he was too creative for Vince's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's keep rolling on here. I'm
gonna throw a actually is really only a couple that
we haven't talked to at this point, so I don't
need to throw you a couple at the time. Let's
talk about Nikki Blackheart coming in as Reina Vulcan. She
we saw a little bit of a vignette tonight describing
who she is and you know, the force of Nature,
the force first Dominican born W W. E. Starr, and
that her she said that her opponent isn't going to
survive her debut next week, which makes sense that that
she probably won't because I don't know who's sky Skyler
ray Is. I think I've heard the name before. I
think she might have had one or two ant matches.
I know she's involved. But uh but yeah, I when
I saw the when you see the the graphic come
up about her match next week, Rayna Raina versus Skylar, Uh,
it's kind of like, oh, yeah, well, we know what's
happening next week the Skylar and uh, maybe we'll never
see her again. I don't know, so I'm I'm I'm
a little bit familiar with Nikki Blackheart and what she's
done on uh, you know, on on the indies, or
I guess I should start calling her, uh, Rayna Vulcan.
I really really dig the name. I didn't know if
I would like the when I first read it, I
went huh, and it grew on me really quick. I
think that's a cool name. I'm also a star trek nerd.
I know it's not spelled just like Vulcan, but you know,
so maybe that's playing volcano. Yeah, spelling volcano, uh without
the last Oh, but you know, maybe maybe that's why
it's appealing to me a little bit. Don't know, but uh,
but I'm I'm, I'm, I'm really curious to see what
she's going to be bringing to the table next week.
I have a feeling it's going to be a brutal match,
a brutal squash match, and I wouldn't necessarily want to
be Skyler Ray next week, although I'm sure Ray will
take care of her, but in KFA, I wouldn't want
to be Skyler next week. So we have that, and
then we also have I'm actually let me throw. I'm
gonna throw three of the match at the same time.
So we got Raina Vulcan, then we saw Kellie Armstrong
or sorry, where am I in my notes here?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Kellie Armstrong confronts Kendall Gray promises to win
the main event. She broke her promise, but then she
had some words with Jada Parker, who was backstage. She
wanted to congratulate Collie on the match tonight. Once Kylie
walked away, we saw Naddy, Carmen and Nikita attack Jada,
and then we got a Jada versus Natty was booked
for next week, so we're going to see that. Then
we saw a vignette. The last thing I'll throw at
you and last thing we're gonna be talking about was
Sean spears Uh delivering a vignette from Full Sale University
talking basically bringing it back to where NIX. I was
gonna say where NXT started, although it's not really where
NXT started, but this iteration of NXT as not a
game show where it started, bringing it back there and
his days is he didn't mention his days as Tyd Dillinger,
but we all know it. Ten. That's really five. I
guess something else in my hand.
Speaker 3: Ten.
Speaker 2: There we go. I thought it was a really cool
vignette talking about how you know NXT is all about
the next generation of talent and cultivating the next generation
of talent, and that's what he wanted to do with
the culling, so he you know, he talked about how
even though he got kicked out, he's very proud of
is he and Nico for becoming more than what they
were before they entered the calling. I thought, this is
a really cool vignette, and I think this is going
to lead to something bigger for Sean Spears, which I'm
all for. I think Sean, you know, he's a great talent.
He's obviously you know, he's a he's a part time wrestler,
part part time wrestler, full time trainer, might be part
time trainer, I don't know, but he's he's doing both.
He's doing both so which I think he is invaluable
to people backstage as a trainer because he's got such
a great mind, especially after listening to a few of
his like interviews like Chris he had a Chris Van
Vliet interview, There's a few other interviews I've listened to him,
and he has a really really good mind for wrestling,
So I think he's invaluable in that spot. So I
think giving him more of a high profile spot and
letting him grow as a character there are a bit
more than just kind of being the former leader of
the Culling that became the sidekick of the Culling. I think,
not only it's basically going to allow him to give
rubs to other people in the ring. So I'm in
favor of them kind of building. Shawn Spears up. I
think that's a good idea. So let me throw it
to you Raina Vulkin, Jada Parker and Natty next week.
Shawn Spears, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, not a ton really to comment on here. I
think though, I like that we got a little more
information about the person that we don't know, but everyone
knows who it is, so I'm glad we got a
name confirmation. That's cool. See Yeah, the Wren Kendall, Kelly,
Jada Nikita segment, the little backstage segment there. I thought
the camera work was cool where it was more of
like a one continuous shot sort of thing. They've been
and then been doing a lot more of that over
I don't know what the last year, maybe even two
years at this point.
Speaker 2: Since Kevin's been gone.
Speaker 3: Right hour long, that's been Yeah, it's it's been neat
to see some some different camera angles and some different
things going on with the camera work, you know, keep
things a little more fresh, and again, just more more
advancement of that storyline into this match coming up next
week where maybe Jada will win again. We haven't seen
her win a lot in the last year a while.
I mean we did see her win was the last
week or two weeks ago, two weeks ago, two weeks ago. Yes,
I mean she she has gotten a win lately, but
unfortunately with her, they always seem to book her to
not win when it matters. So is this maybe the
storyline where that changes, because everybody, like, you know, everybody
loves her. She was in a really good position and
then they just knocked her down so many notches over
the last you know, recent times that I don't really understand. What. Yeah, yeah,
we love Jada here and and we want to see
her do good things. And then yeah, the Shawn Spears
segment was fine. They you know, they do these NXT
focus type segments every once in a while, and uh
like it's basically just gonna ultimately build to the Nico
Shawn Spears match that we knew was coming anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, you know.
Speaker 3: Some it was good, some good little information It's always
fun to throw it back to full sale for for
the longtime fans. But you know, overall, it did what
he needed to do. He got his threat out to
Nico Vance and we'll see. If I don't know if
they come face to face next week or we're gonna
match in a couple of weeks. Time will tell.
Speaker 2: Yes, it will, Yes, it will, And I think that
is going to bring us to the end of our
show tonight. I'm Nate Lindberg. You can check the things
I do a Nate Lindberg dot com.
Speaker 6: Um.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, Kevin, who are you? But
you're not Kevin? Sure not Jobin? Who are you?
Speaker 3: I'm Jobin. You can check the things Nate does out
at Natelimberg dot Com because I don't have anything to plug.
Speaker 2: All right, there we go. Sounds good. So yeah, I
believe after three or four weeks now, Kelly and I
will actually be doing a show together next week, unless
another member of my family decides to die. Yes. I
like dark humor, as does my family. My dad would
appreciate that joke.
Speaker 3: Ken confirm yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Or Kelly has to go somewhere else in the country.
But I believe the two of us will be here
next week, reuniting once again.
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