Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to yet another
trade deadline live stream. Yet another pillar of Clippers basketball
has been traded. Adam, I don't know if you saw,
but the Clippers traded a Viza zubats Uh to the
Indiana Pacers. So we have another right now. Adam is
learning about this for the first time.
Speaker 2: Shit, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: No, thank you for hanging out. We're gonna put this out.
His audio for the Clips and Dip audio only listeners.
I'm Chuck Buckler, joined by Adam Oslin and William Updyke. Guys,
how are we doing? Will How are you feeling now
that the team has a pretty damn near totally new
look and feel to it.
Speaker 3: It's been man, confused, conflicted. Ah, it's tough.
Speaker 2: Those are Clipper fan emotions. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 1: And obviously when I saw the news, you're just like, okay, great,
like shops, give us some details, Like let's not just
say that he's been traded, Let's get some details. But
I like how it I think the Clippers came out.
I'm not gonna say one the trade because that's not
how any of this really works. But I like where
the Clippers are after the Zoo trade, Adam, I don't
know if you've talked about it today. How did you
feel about the Zoo Trade?
Speaker 2: I felt better before I woke up from this nap
I just took. I had to stream it for far
too long.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of hitting me, like it's just so bizarre.
It surreal of eats his snow blots in a different uniform,
the longest tenured Clipper. I don't even remember him as
a Laker at this point. He's been with the Clippers
for so long. He's you know, he was mister Clipper,
Like he was a guy that we defended so much
on on this show. We talked about so much, and
he was my favorite Clipper, so I am. It is
an emotional trade, absolutely that at some point, but I'm
not there yet, especially if the news of him just
becoming a father. There's just so much wrapped up with
it hard it's like it's too much. It's century overload
right now. It's a lot.
Speaker 4: It's it's interesting because you know, like it's not necessarily
something new over the past decade or so of being
a Clipper fan, like seeing uh Stoorewards store wars of
the franchise be traded away. But like a lot of times,
it's very different in that things have seemingly like run
their course.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Certainly with the Chris Paul thing, you know, that felt
very like amicable in the way we were able to
do it. I know that the Blake Griffin thing, he
didn't quite feel as though it was as amicable. But
like given the return, like if you're on the other
line of that call when Detroit is offering.
Speaker 3: You that, and you've seen where this team has been, and.
Speaker 4: You know, Blake had his injury struggles and like they
just kind of like been in kind of a bit
of a little bit of a middling period. It's kind
of like that one even as a fan, you know,
like it was really tough, but it was kind of like, man,
this just makes so much damn sense.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Obviously, like Paul George, you know that one we we
we all saw kind of coming.
Speaker 1: A mile away was one of those that was one
of the vibe.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like even Harden, it's like, okay, like
that that one was a little tough, but you know,
you get it.
Speaker 3: You you get it from his side. Uh.
Speaker 4: And certainly you know, I can understand it for for
for both sides in the in the Zoo sense too,
but it just felt like, and we've talked so much
about you know, anything could happen at the trade deadline,
but you would think that Zoo being the only player
on the books in this like next era, that this
that this organization has said that they're you know, focusing
on and and looking at.
Speaker 3: Uh. It just feels so much different.
Speaker 4: In a way than than any of these other ones,
you know, even the Shade trade. You know, like he
like at the time, he only had one season under
his belt. It was just like a very different situation.
We had grown accustomed and attached to him, but like
you know, it was a shorter amount of time. Here
you have the longest tenured Clipper you have you know,
like a yeah, and a guy that like we really
saw like grow and develop. I mean, like he's got
to be the biggest win of the Clippers like developmental team.
Uh you know, I mean you could you could toss
a hat in for Terrence or something as well. But
like Zeus, like I mean he went to being like
a you know, a potential why like he you know,
he's talks about is like one of the best centers
in the league is like a traditional sort of center.
Speaker 3: Like it's just it just feels so different.
Speaker 1: I don't know it was it hit me with the like, oh,
we're firmly like the new eras we knew that it
was coming, and then the new era was like, it's
actually here on Wednesday and Thursday, so I still hear
which I'm sure we're going to talk about. I was
a little surprised, I guess, just after seeing Zoo and
Hard get traded. But the way that the whole trade
deadline shook out out James Harden, it beats the Zobots,
Kobe Brown and Chris paul In, Darius Garland, Benedic mcthurin,
Isaiah Jackson, twenty twenty six first round protected one through four,
and ten through thirty. If it doesn't convey, then we
get a twenty thirty one unprotected first round pick from
the Pacers, twenty twenty six second round pick, twenty twenty
eight second round pick, and then the twenty twenty nine
unprotected first round pick. If you are not a fan
of Lawrence Frank, this is a pretty damn good trade
deadline for that.
Speaker 4: I mean unless the Clippers slip out of the play
in and that pick doesn't convey this year and then.
Speaker 1: But even then it's unprotected when the Pacers are probably
gonna be not as good. Yeah, it would be annoying.
Speaker 2: I will agree, It's very better than it bumping to
twenty twenty seven and taking that pick from them instead
when they're gonna be good that season. I'm guessing he
had to fight for that. They probably wanted to bump
to twenty twenty seven. He said, no, we want twenty
twenty six, and they were able to compromise on the pick.
On the pick protections.
Speaker 1: That's a good call because if the Pacers, yeah, say
they get picked one through four where it's protected, and
they got Haliburton coming back, they have Zoo now, like
Zoo has.
Speaker 4: The opportunity to like help this franchise in a way
that I can't think of any other player. We'd have
to have a damn parade for him.
Speaker 3: Five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this would if the Clippers end up getting five
through nine. Granted by I am not a draft an
NBA draft guy, but everything that is out there is
saying that this is a deep draft. It's a very
good draft. Whatever you want.
Speaker 4: Supposedly this one's good, next year's bunk. The year after
is too early to tell. So it's like, I mean, you.
Speaker 2: Know, there's five, Like five is about right. Like, if
you get a top five pick in this draft, you
have a real chance of getting a franchise guy, and the.
Speaker 1: Clippers are also going to be in position to be
developing that guy because the roster, you know, like the
roster is what it is. It's not exactly I don't
think we're going to be competing for a championship next
year necessarily, so they will have a chance to develop
that year necessarily. Hey, you know, yeah, the protect it
was difficult to kind of like when I saw the protection,
I can't remember the last time a pick was double
protected like this. I'm sure it's happened in the last
ten years.
Speaker 2: They bracketed it.
Speaker 1: They did legit. The only whoa of what do the
Clippers do at backup center has now been replaced with
well ship, what do they do at the starting the
starting Yeah? Man, the rest of the season is going
to be interesting.
Speaker 2: Hey, this says they like Jonnick, Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good call. Does it I think it does.
I'm hoping it does. I think one thing that's.
Speaker 3: Point to read between those tea leaves man, did.
Speaker 1: You guys see the quotes from Altman about Darius Garland
and his come return to play trajectory. I know, uh,
Darius Garland said sorry so sorry. Altman said that Garland
was on a return to play proto call from his
current toe injury before the trade. He was getting over that.
He was in your return to play protocol, so he
wasn't far away.
Speaker 2: So that's the last night. He just was waiting for
the green light. He's been doing the workouts. He feels good,
he's ready to hoop.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and you can't imagine that they would.
Speaker 4: You can't imagine that they would make this move if
it was unclear in the in the physicals. I mean maybe,
like maybe, I don't know, do you still make the
move if you think he's gonna be shut down the
rest of the year or a significant time of the season,
Because I don't know that they do necessarily unless you're
really really high on Garland, which could be possible to
But if you knew that he was going to be
missing significantly more time, I do wonder if that changes
the calculus at all. It is still a much younger
all star, you know, with with high some high ceiling
potential and longevity there. But you know, clearly the medicals
were good enough for them to not be scared off
of the deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, if if it was a difference between waiting
longer on Garland or James. Harden is upset now because
you didn't him. I guess you make the move for him, right,
I'm anticipating in back sooner and later. He's out tomorrow
against Sacramento. But it still sounds like the trade is
not still official official. He's out because traded in Breentes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trade pending or something like that. Wait we just
got him, yeah yeah, like perfect. Well the other so
kind of in conjunction, like with what Will was saying about,
like the physicals must be okay and you don't think
you take the risk. The trade seems like it was
in the works a little longer then maybe we were
led to believe, right, Like Darius J. Said he knew
the trade between the Clippers and Kaffean, who was coming
in the recent days. Altman said Harden had been eyeing
them for weeks. That's what he said, so like and just.
Speaker 4: Given the Clippers history. Like you know, we talked about
this obviously when the trade first happened. You don't get
a player like this, this young, of this potential caliber
with two All Star appearances if there's not some question,
of course, but I would think given their history, like
sort of injury history, you know, and looking towards the future,
you know, not necessarily prioritizing the current timeline we're on,
you wouldn't go for anything.
Speaker 1: That's too fishy or too big of a question mark.
Speaker 4: If he's wearing a Riddler suit, they're probably not making
the move.
Speaker 1: That was so crazy and now we kind of turned. Uh,
Joseph Fryward is calling me so Joseph, if you're watching
the stream, just put something in the chat and we'll
send you the link.
Speaker 2: Blax bro. He just woke up from a nap and
saw the trade. If my son has been traded, had
a baby, girls.
Speaker 3: No, we gotta we gotta get.
Speaker 1: Joseph, the one of the biggest Zoo boosters, absolutely got
it on this whole thing. This is uh, this is
another curse of the Carl Tart Jersey.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, never knew.
Speaker 4: Carl Tart friend of the pod anytime he buys a
Clippers jersey.
Speaker 3: They are trading.
Speaker 1: They are gone. Uh, And we haven't talked about how
we feel about Benedict Mathurin.
Speaker 4: Where do you see him fitting in? Are they going
to start him off the bench? Do you think he's
a swap for Done?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what last night I asked coach Lup
pre game about Darius Garland and if he would like
a different backcourt made for him versus James Harden And
at the very end he said, you know, we'll see
there's a lot going on. That's a good question, and
he said it kind of in a way I today, Yeah, Well,
I think he knew that this trade could happen and
Benedict could end up his backcourt mate. That's kind of
how I read. We watched it today a couple of
different times, like I think this trade of us. I
think this trade was obviously the works for some times. Yeah,
I did.
Speaker 3: Expert to out.
Speaker 2: Luckily I am one what I need to be. No,
I I think he could start, but more likely comes
off the bench at first, and it's still Chris Done.
Speaker 4: That's the Yeah, that's like the path forward that I
would most likely see unless they're unless for whatever reason,
Matherine is available in the lineup prior to Garland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well like this, Joseph Ryward is trying to get
on the stream, but I don't know how his internets.
I don't think it's working.
Speaker 3: He's the head of sales, not the head of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well then the standings are super weird right now,
because like if you're not in the play and you're
trying to, like the West is crazy, Like a lot
of the teams below the Clippers are gonna try and
outright tank pretty hard.
Speaker 3: Who do we got pull it? Pull it up on, let.
Speaker 1: Me get removing Joseph.
Speaker 2: Someone's gotta stop with it. He may be a good guy,
but Zoo was not a good fit for the Clippers.
That's not what this is about.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also so if you didn't want Zoo on
the team, he's gone, So you're sorry. He is in
a sack. Yeah, we can be done. We can be
done with that. Yeah, Like, congrats. So here's the West
should be popping up. So like there's the clips. The
Warriors are in a really weird spot. Did they get better? No? Like,
so they're probably trying to tank to some extent. With
Butler out, I don't think the Blazers want to tank
because I think it conveys or something. But like, like
these guys are not trying to win games, so like
neither of the you know what I mean, Like the
Clippers could kind of end up asked backwardsly in a
higher seed than they should be.
Speaker 2: Well, I think playing is definitely looking like a more
sure thing now and just getting at least the tenth
spot in the Western Conference at least, but they still
would have work to do, I think to get into
the seventy eight matchup.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. The Clippers also are we haggle, no haggle, how
we should feel nervous for the game tomorrow because the
Kings have lost ten in a row.
Speaker 5: No hagle.
Speaker 2: They also didn't do anything. There may be a cyber
relief from some of those guys, or maybe they're upset
because they get traded as Zacramento.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's true.
Speaker 5: Joseph commuting commuting.
Speaker 2: Are you India?
Speaker 5: I'm actually I've kidnapped Zoo. I'm not letting him go.
He's in the back. No, it's me, my son and
my and my grandchild. We're just all, We're all. I'm
actually excited I'm actually I'm excited about this. I do
like Matherin, I'm not just excited because this is one
of the dumb trades. I kept spamming to everybody over
and over and over again when I heard they might
trade zoo is this does?
Speaker 1: This doesn't have six organizations into it.
Speaker 5: Listen, every time I send one of those, there's a
caveyat this is multiple deals. Don't think I'm sending you
an actual six team trade. It's just the easiest way
to conceptualize that is not true. Well, actually, Chuck, you
get my most arranged ones. I have a problem, ladies
and gentleman. Sorry not to derail the pod, but uh,
obviously the Kings game is concerning because we're gonna suck
for a little bit because any time you take a
variable that Ty was counting on and you take it away,
he forgets how to coach.
Speaker 1: For like five games, he.
Speaker 5: Just he's like, I don't know what's happening, nothing is working,
and then he figures it out. So I think the
team is gonna be surprisingly good, but not for like
two weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's gonna there's gonna be some growing pains.
Garland's not here yet like then we have the Yeah.
Speaker 5: Concerned, he has six working toes, but I think we're
gonna get through that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how badly do you really need him?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Really need your big toe that's the one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he is missing one of those unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not necessarily good.
Speaker 2: Why do some people think like the trade line hasn't ended?
They're like, I think DeRozan's coming to the Clippers, like,
oh when this summer on a buyout.
Speaker 1: I'm no more old guys. We're in the youth movement.
That's right, the Clippers youth movement.
Speaker 5: We're in the y honest movement. Hands on the wheel,
we are in the honest moment.
Speaker 1: I don't can dude, Nis is so annoying.
Speaker 5: He's waiting for his one true desire to come available.
And guess what it did today.
Speaker 1: To get overpaid by the Clippers.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he's coming, guy, he's coming.
Speaker 1: Where do you see us finishing in the standings Joseph.
Speaker 5: Nine?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Where they are?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we're holding. We're holding firm. Night.
Speaker 3: I mean you could really hope to jump as the
Warriors realistically.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean they did just trade for a
guy with Potts, So look as someone as someone who
was tested for pots. Pots is a really challenging the sord. No,
it is seriously, seriously.
Speaker 3: Potts not a joke.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: Every time you stand up, you get flush it. Stop sweating.
It's a whole thing. Man, It's really not good.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get into that on the Patreon. Will
and Shap will scale it one to ten. I'll surprise,
are you Bogie still on the team?
Speaker 4: Uh lake surprise, But not that they couldn't find a
trade partner, if that makes sense.
Speaker 5: How how did the Bulls say no to like another
guard swap? It feels like all they've been doing is
guard swaps. And I'm sure was like, hey, I know
you've been doing all these guard swaps. What about Bogie
for Sexton? We'll give you a second, And they're like no,
And He's like, you just did eight other trades where
this formula works. Why doesn't it work now?
Speaker 1: I said on Twitter that no one should try and
predict what the Bulls are doing. Ever proved to be
a wise call.
Speaker 2: I think his Sexton was already traded, he'd have to
match salary one for one that the next guy he
was traded for, and then that's yeah, otherwise with the
siren in the background.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm muting Joseph real quick.
Speaker 3: The production.
Speaker 2: He really does have Zoo in the back seat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joseph's like, Oh, but my car is getting hit
by a train. Yeah. This it's just I don't know.
It's still feels shocking, kind of like did the new
errors just already here?
Speaker 2: Oh? Do you guys want the Lawrence Frank statement on Zoo?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Well, this trade is extremely difficult for many reasons, but
in order to achieve our ultimate goals as an organization,
we felt we had to take advantage of the opportunity.
Zoo is one of the best centers in the NBA,
the longest tenured player on the team, and a pillar
of everything we've done for the past seven years. He's
an elite rimp protector and rebounder who made himself into
an effective offensive threat attribute to his hard work. We
will miss Zoo as a player and a person. He
is a terrific teammate and a true competitor who gave
us everything he had. We are grateful for Zuo, along
with Kobe, who grew a lot in the past two
and a half seasons and can help any team with
his passing, ball, handling, and defense.
Speaker 1: Notice he did not say shooting.
Speaker 5: Am I unmuted yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny that that part wasn't there. Go ahead, Joseph,
you are unmuted. Thank you.
Speaker 5: Uh, Kobe getting one line in that press conference is
one line too many about.
Speaker 1: What's this? This is nasty, this is just mean. Now
you're making pots jokes.
Speaker 5: It wasn't a joke. It's a very serious condition.
Speaker 1: This isn't an Austin comedy podcast here. Oh that's a
great state with my Lawrence Frank. All of these trades
are hurt for the most part. Yeah, like not hurt,
just like, oh it's over, you know what I mean?
Like it was amicable with Harden. Uh you make the
trade for you every time I think, yeah, just brutal.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss him a lot, honestly. Yeah, a little
bit emotional. It's a little bit emotional. Is he gets
Clipper Nation better than any other player I've seen. He
gets the hardships of this franchise.
Speaker 1: He broke the.
Speaker 5: He he's obviously he was one of my favorite Clippers.
I stand for Zoom, you know, for many years, and
it sucks. It sucks to lose a player of that caliber,
and this was like a no this is a no
brainer for where the franchise was. What they did at
this deadline was like a gift. They were handed a
gift like I get out of jail free card, and
they took it.
Speaker 1: Was your favorite.
Speaker 5: My favorite Zoom moment.
Speaker 1: When he destroyed Myles Turner, which was awesome. That was
so tight.
Speaker 5: Mine is not only when he dunked on Tres it's
the photo from when he yelled at him after dunking
on him while he was later That's my favorite. That's
my favorite Zoom moment. His little sideway, his mouth thing
that he does when he's yelling. The best.
Speaker 2: He had was was the Miles Turner game. Also the
thirty twenty nine game from Zoo against the Pacers. Yes,
yes they got a good look at him.
Speaker 1: Yeah we didn't know it will What are you going for?
Favorite Zoom moment.
Speaker 4: Anytime he sort of like, uh lost his cool a
little bit. Like the one that's immediately coming to mind
is just because it's like the most recent, but that
tangle up with Vanderbilt because I feel like he like, uh,
you know, he does a lot of these and stuff
because he doesn't get calls, which we all.
Speaker 1: Know why we've talked about him on the podcast extensively.
You grow the hair out, uh.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like seeing him like kind of lose lose
the cool anytime on the court, I thought was great
because you know that he has that inside at all times.
Speaker 3: Just the way that he goes like the way that
he goes up against guys.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Also his I've talked about it, I don't even know
how many times on the pod, but his initiation I
believe it was his first game with the Clippers when
he contested DeAndre eight and then got yammed on. But
it was just like the tenacity to do it, I thought,
just said a lot about Zoo.
Speaker 1: Yeah this yeah, man, It's all I thought of when
the trade happened. Was when we all watched him get
played off the floor against the Warriors that first playoff season.
That just kept popping into my head because that is
he has grown. He grew so much as a player
between that moment and now. It was just like shit,
like we saw him he's still young too, Like we
saw him effectively grow up with the Clippers.
Speaker 3: In the East in a much easier conference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, And we got Isaiah Jackson, which no
disrespect Isaiah Jackson. Sorry we didn't mention you. People in
the chat seem hyped onto him, but I I don't
know ball on this one.
Speaker 3: On the Jackson acquisition, where are you at on that?
Speaker 2: It's a nice pickup for a serviceable big man after
a move like this. But he hasn't been the same
since the Achilles injury, but he has at least been
available as of late. Obviously they're haven't such a down year.
It's hard to evaluate a lot of it, but I
think it's it's nice to have him with Brook, Lopez
and Yonick. Still, I think he offers like he's the
small ball, you know center out of those three now
or the smaller center. Uh, he can't shoot or anything,
so he's the six nine undersize five. But yeah, he
was actually really good a couple of years ago. You
look at his like per thirty six numbers and they're ridiculous,
Like we're talking almost like three blocks per thirty six minutes.
But this is pre Achilles. So this is the contract though,
is you know it's I think it de escalates or descends.
It goes from like seven million, Yeah, it's three years
twenty one million, and it just started this year, so
I think the last year is the twenty seven to
twenty eight season, and it's around six million per year.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's not it's like a flyer. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 2: If he can regain some of his athleticism from the Achilles,
you know, that'd be big trouser.
Speaker 1: J Slack says, I hope Jackson doesn't take Yanis minutes.
I don't think he will. There's a lot of center
minutes to go around. Is Will kind of already brought up.
Lopez can't exact. We'll see how many minutes Lopez can
play for the rest of the season. But I don't
think you should be worried about Yeah, would we start Brook?
I mean Brooks starts. Yeah, brook has to start.
Speaker 2: He gets the first shot. Maybe by the end of
the season, maybe it's onic, but for now it's.
Speaker 1: Going to be Brook probably, And I think Yannick stays
number two.
Speaker 3: Maybe, And there's a chance, like Brooke could his play
could elevate a little bit just playing with some of
those theoretically better lineups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Matt Benedict grabs boards, he's a good iss rebounder,
He can crash the boards because Lopez is not going
to no disrespect.
Speaker 2: He just.
Speaker 1: Boards.
Speaker 2: I was dangerously high on Benedict in the draft that year,
coming out of Arizona. He went one of his Yeah,
one of his comps was Kawhi like a Kawhi light.
That's that's one of his comps.
Speaker 3: That was one of the first things.
Speaker 4: I didn't even want to speak on it because it
seemed like the Clippers still could make more moves up
to the deadline. But like having him under Kawhi, I
do think is really interesting.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I like that from from a development perspective, like,
I do think that that's very interesting.
Speaker 2: There's one issue, and Law brought this up and I
kind of felt like, well, if you traded, if you
got this guy in the trade for a beach Zubot,
you have to hold on to him no matter what.
But he is a restricted free agent this summer, you're
gonna have to pay him this summer. So Benedict, Yeah,
he's making nine million now he turns restricted. That's a
big reason the Pacers like, well, we're not looking at
paying him a hundred million dollars or whatever it's going
to be. It becomes a really big decision, and Law
brought up earlier that he thinks it's a real trial
period where it's not that they would let him go
for nothing, but if he doesn't work with the Clippers,
it could be a sign and trade piece.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they also got to pay Collins theoretically right,
like if you I want to pay on Collins.
Speaker 3: I'll take a couple of sham out.
Speaker 6: But they also got to pay Will. Yeah, what's the will.
I don't know if that third April so he had
the Clippers. That is a great point. They gotta like
sign and trade piece is at bath But I hope
that Mathern can play to the point that.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's weird, Like you may have to take your lumps,
like if you're wondering about how good they're going to
be the rest of the way, Like they have to
find out what they have in Mathern right away.
Speaker 1: This is kind of a good point from Sunken City
clips when Garland comes back, which let's assume post All
Star Break, Tyler talked about the team wanting to play faster.
Lopez is the starting center for a team that's led
by Darius Garland with Mathern out there, and Derek, like Collins,
it's a fast team, right, Like Lopez is going to slow.
That's a I'm not going to maybe agree with the
runs like a slug part. But he is a slower
guy out there, and he's old. He just has to
get to the three point one day, you know what,
I'm an idiot on three point top of the three
point line, of the top of the three point line.
He has to run lest That'll be interesting. How much
experimentation the Clippers do with that while still wanting to
get to that five hundred number will be interesting to Nitor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can maybe lower your expectations slightly
from where they were if you thought they were gonna
end up, you know, with forty five wins or forty
six wins. Maybe now it's like forty two. Just staying
above just staying above five hundred would be big, so
much of an adjustment.
Speaker 3: You could be pleased with that outcome.
Speaker 1: If we were just five hundred, I'm like, yeah, great.
Speaker 3: Now gotta be forty two wentes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be fine with five hundred.
Speaker 3: Anything less is failure.
Speaker 1: I mean I would obviously prefer one more wingh Yeah, No,
we weren't trying to disrespect Benedict Mathrin. I just haven't wonted.
Speaker 2: We just said how big of fans we were in
his comp was Kawhi. I think I think it's gonna work.
I'm a big fan. I think there is so much
to unlock with him. I don't think defensively he's gotten
to the point where everybody thought he'd get to out
of Arizona.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And offensively, you know he's in. He's more of an
ISO guy. He The question on him is the same
thing with Kaminga, like can he get his own and
also get others involved and play within the team concept?
Well enough?
Speaker 1: Right? This is an interesting point. When's the thank you
post for CP three Codd, I don't know, you'd think
they'd have that the works right or already locked and loaded.
Speaker 3: Would you have preferred cominga in draft capital if that
was on the table.
Speaker 2: No, Benedict is further along than Kminga.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yeah, just so much more playing.
Speaker 2: Benedict dropped twenty points. It's in two of the finals
games last year, including game seven. Like you go through
the playoff run and it's like he's got twenty points here,
He's got twenty points like Bennydicc's had real playoff experience too.
After that run that's was so great. It's twenty three.
I thought that Cominga played a little bit in the
twenty twenty two for them, but he scored over twenty
in Game seven. They led it the half after how
he went down, he was one of the reasons they
actually held onto the lead for a bit.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how I'm also excited to
see Tie with a completely different system than what he's
used to. No pun intended, I guess with what we're
gonna see there. The Chris Paul trade was funny. So
the Clippers now going to convert Kobe Sanders or Jordan Miller,
doesn't matter who they convert first.
Speaker 2: Necessarily the other guy's gonna be pissed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's doing that. The Clippers traded for the
rights to Vanya Markinovich, who currently is recovering from a
torn achilles. I just thought that was kind of a
funny caveat of the CP three trade because we have
the rights to a guy who tore his achilles.
Speaker 2: He's twenty nine. He was drafted like by the Kings
in the second round. I think in twenty nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, like what a we I don't know,
I'm feeling. Yeah, kudos the Lawrence Frank on this trade deadline.
He killed this one.
Speaker 2: Good luck ating Walker Kesseler. The Pacers inquired about him
before getting it. Beats a Zoo boss. Everybody's asked about Castler.
The Lakers were trying to get Kestler.
Speaker 3: Like that's an unmovable I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think marketing is more gettable. Yeah, but he
already got paid too, so.
Speaker 1: JJ the boy is still sad about Zoo. That's fair.
We the Clippers play the Pacers at some point again March,
of course. I think we actually know the Clippers play
all thirty one other teams in March. I think that
that's That's what the NBA did over the weekend. Yeah,
they said, you guys, have you have a back to
back uh to the nth degree? Yeah, March fourth home game.
Hell yeah, that's gonna be rad. So he's gonna drop
thirty five and thirty on us?
Speaker 3: How many.
Speaker 1: In March?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Let me, I'm sure I haven't. I'm sure I brought
that up somewhere.
Speaker 2: Don't be surprised, guys, if you're watching the Vista Zubos
by the way, next season in the Eastern Conference Finals
with the Indiana Pacers. I'm just I'm just warning you now,
like Indiana is gonna be really good and Visa Zubos
is a really good player. So all those people hating
on him and they're all happy, like, just no, Visa
Zoobots is a hell of a player.
Speaker 4: And then I mean, look at the return, Like if
you were skeptical about if you were skeptical about Zoo
and what he offered, and if you thought that this
podcast was too high on him, which I mean sure
maybe at times there's there's some zoom I s e perhaps,
but uh like, just look at the return and that's
what the league thought, Like, that's what the league thinks of.
Speaker 2: Then there's your proof. If you love the trade so much,
you also are acknowledging that they got this trade because
they gave up a really good player.
Speaker 1: Okay, you asked about March. I don't have the numbers
on the four and fives.
Speaker 2: But if you just have the March calendar wherever you
walk around, and yeah.
Speaker 1: This doesn't tell time, this is just the March calendar.
It starts with a five and seven in four different cities,
and then there's another They have two five and sevens
in March. Yeah, celeb right, so they have two five
and sevens, which seems difficult.
Speaker 2: We talked about it. They win sixteen and three over
a nineteen game stretch. They weren't going sixty and three
the next nineteen games. Even if James Hard doesn't get traded.
The schedule got much tougher. Well, they'll go fifty. Yeah,
we'll go fifteen and three in March. Oh yeah, I
can't go sixteen and three if it's only eighteen games.
Speaker 1: Dude, duh, duch just civil math. Brother, The Nerds ruined basketball,
all right. So we got the Kings, the new look Kings.
DeAndre Hunter is probably gonna go off for sixty five
points or something insane. And then before the break, the
Clippers have a three and four where they're at the
Wolves and then a back to back at Houston, so
I might we might be limping into the All Star
break up.
Speaker 2: Wins wise, tomorrow looks like an early must win if
you want to finish about five hundred this season, because
the back to back in Houston is gonna be brough.
Minnesota's gonna be rough on Sunday. Yeah, well let's go
too and two the next thanks four huge.
Speaker 1: I would take two and two? Will would you take
two and two? Or is out a fild?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We don't even know who's playing, for God's sake. Yeah,
I'll take going five hundred over that stretch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. Someone's asking what kind of contract we
have to give Bed this summer. We don't know. I
don't really think you could peg on contract. You can
bathroom this summer, respectfully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not quite. What happens with him over the
next two months is just monumental for this team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. People that chat are really upset about Bogie. You
gotta let that go.
Speaker 3: He's just gotta let that one go, all right, And
in the market, like what it looks like, too.
Speaker 1: Could be elevated if you play as well.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping he's a long term guy. And the fit
in the backcourt next to Darius Garland, like that's he's
always projected, is having a really high ceiling. He's showing
it in flashes. This is a huge get.
Speaker 1: I'm excited with.
Speaker 3: He's holding them back.
Speaker 1: Mitchell's no longer holding Garland back. Yeah, I have this
feeling where it's like, I know that I'm excited, and
I know that all of these moves were good, But
like we've said, it's been such a weird ass season
up to this point. We had paper ball, we didn't
win a game, and for an entire month, Zoo just
had a kid. The franchise is completely transitioning from well
now it's just the two era, I guess because it's
just Kawhi just a lot of shit going on.
Speaker 2: I really, and it's not just because he ended up
staying after they trade a beast Zubos. I think people
underestimate how much Kauai is enjoying being home and being
with his family. I do not think he wants to leave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his contract situation is going to be interesting too,
at the end of his whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people are already projecting on evil four letter Earlier today,
I saw Ramona and who was a wind horse say,
you know, is Kawhi gonna get traded this summer?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: It's like, can we just can we just relax a
little bit? They just made all these huge moves, Kauai
is still here.
Speaker 1: That was yeah, Well, I mean everyone thought Kawhi was
traded when they sent out that damn All Star alert.
I thought he was when I saw this, I thought, yeah,
I think when he was named it All Star and
it was the shop Street that was like Los Angeles Clippers.
It was like, oh my God, gets starting. But I
guess thankfully that didn't happen. Now, Kawhi is kind of
the master splinter of the whole crew.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: For the most part, that was for that was only
for Adam. We'll have to do a breakdown to of
like how much just how much younger we.
Speaker 3: Got average age wise?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, Lopez has sold the team and
we can take CP three off, which is good.
Speaker 2: The words I think of the oldest team now.
Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, King's gotta be up there. Westbrook's old, Westbrook's old.
Levigne isn't young, he's thirty. All right, We're gonna runt
down the age of every single player on every single team.
Speaker 2: Now that we're not the oldest, We're calling out everybody
else's old old.
Speaker 1: Mush for dinner and take your weird lift up your
stairs every other nap that does all right? Final thoughts, well,
at this trade deadline, do you have any final thoughts?
Speaker 3: The functions canceled.
Speaker 2: Somebody said the nephew are up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definew time, Adam one positive thing for these fans,
there's a lot of But.
Speaker 2: I already had affinity for the Indiana Pacers after the
magical run they had last season, and it's felt like
this a lot over the years with guys who were
traded away from the Clippers, like starting with Tobias Harris,
Guys who were great for this organization that you feel
good about rooting for even though they're on the East
Coast and you can kind of track them and follow
them and see how they're doing. Avisa Zubos is always
gonna be one of those guys for me now, like
I'm always gonna be checking out how's the Beata Zoobas doing.
And Clippers want to see him twice a season unless
they meet in the NBA Finals, So it doesn't exactly
interfere with your fandom with the Clippers too much. But
I love Visa Zoobots, appreciate everything he did here with
this Clippers team, and he'll always have will always have
plenty of fans Inclipornation.
Speaker 4: Barring the Clippers making the finals, I will be watching
the Calves and the Pacer. Well, I mean not the
Pacers this year, but I'll be watching the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a good time
for ex Clippers. Clippers have a bright future ahead of them,
which wasn't necessarily true thirty six hours ago. So I'm
feeling good. Watch your Zoo highlights, cry your tears, watch
your Harden highlights, and let's get hyped on the new guys.
It's get hyped on the draft picks. We actually gonna
care about the lottery this year for the first time
in a very long Yeah, yeah, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Did you figure out anything? Because right now they have
the third worst record in the league, the Pacers. Do
we want them to actually win just a slight bit
more absolutely.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Zoo has a very unique opportunity right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, got yeah.
Speaker 1: Like, no, it's not there. I'm not wishing on their
downfall at all. I'm wishing on their gradual slope and
then plateau. Like because also, the lottery isn't the same.
A lot of people already saying it's rigged and they're
not gonna they're gonna get the number one pick, so
maybe they'll be right yeah, I'm yeah. The lottery watch
party will be a fun time. They should do that at.
Speaker 3: The If a Pacers somehow do end up getting the
number one pick, it's rigged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd agree with that. If it doesn't work out
how I want it to work out, it's rigged. Uh,
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