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<v Speaker 1>This is Later with Lee Matthews, The Lee Matthews Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>More what You Hear Weekday Afternoon's on the Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>He's most known as Hodor and Game of Thrones a

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<v Speaker 2>fan favorite. Christian Narren is also an author. His newest

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<v Speaker 2>memoir is called Beyond the Throne. He's joining us now

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it, and Christian. Just reading about the

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<v Speaker 2>memoir itself, I'm struck by the line from the Grateful

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<v Speaker 2>Dead song, what a long, strange trip it's been.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is probably very accurate. Actually it does, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna tell you it does. Fila got from my side

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You started out in Ireland when you were a young man,

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<v Speaker 2>when Ireland was in a pretty tumultuous time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we're all very grateful

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<v Speaker 3>that it's not quite that way now. I'm very proud

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<v Speaker 3>of how it's changed. Actually, we obviously still have it

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<v Speaker 3>cheese like every place, but yeah, I don't with Game

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<v Speaker 3>of Thrones and stuff. It's just nice to have a

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<v Speaker 3>spotlight shown on the country for a different reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Well, and I don't know that people realize

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<v Speaker 2>how tumultuous it was because so many generations have passed

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<v Speaker 2>since there was that religious strife between the people of

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<v Speaker 2>Ireland and but at the same time, when you were

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<v Speaker 2>living and growing up, did you personally experience any of

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<v Speaker 2>any of the violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I don't say this as a sob story,

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<v Speaker 3>my friend, because we all went through this in Belfast

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<v Speaker 3>and Ireland. We all have a shared experience and a

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<v Speaker 3>shared trauma, and some of us are very badly affected.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of us got through it and in a lighter way,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was a very dark time. And normalize being

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<v Speaker 3>knocked off your feet by bomb blasts on a regular

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<v Speaker 3>basis and obstantly been evacuated, seeing people being shocked, just

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing where we all have this in

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<v Speaker 3>our dna. I actually think it's where we have the

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<v Speaker 3>Irish sense of humor from. We have this crazy sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you right now, he's traveled every country in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. Basically, no one gets our sense of humor

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<v Speaker 3>like we do because it's black people will get it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we're being kind of cruel, But that's

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<v Speaker 3>just how we coped, you know, the only way. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why we have such a unique sense of humor. But

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<v Speaker 3>I loved my country and I love on both sides

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<v Speaker 3>of the border. I'm so proud to be from there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's known as Hodor and Game of Thrones. His newest

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<v Speaker 2>memoirs called Beyond the Throne his first memoir where he

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<v Speaker 2>shares behind the scenes stories of the perils and triumphs

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<v Speaker 2>of Game of Thrones. And if you're a fan, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>love this. Christianairean is with us. Now, did you draw

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<v Speaker 2>upon any of those experiences growing up in a tumultuous

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<v Speaker 2>time in Ireland when you had to act out a

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<v Speaker 2>tumultuous scene on Game of Thrones?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually no, I'm going to say no, but not consciously.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously everything I do is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 3>influenced by that, just like we all are. I really

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<v Speaker 3>called more on my own sort of shyness and introversion

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<v Speaker 3>for one of a better word, when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>child and teenager even, and that's what I put into Holder,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what I put into those scenes. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I would I have reacted when I didn't have the

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<v Speaker 3>experiences I have. I was trying to put myself back

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<v Speaker 3>to when it was more innocent and shy and really

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<v Speaker 3>put myself in that position. I would I have reacted

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<v Speaker 3>back then? And that's kind of what I poured in there,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think you're actually right. I think those experiences

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<v Speaker 3>did partly go into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Christionnaireing Beyond the Throne is his memoir, And let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>a little about about your growing up, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's anything long and strange about becoming an

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<v Speaker 2>actor on a hit show like a Game of Thrones,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is when you are not a trained actor,

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<v Speaker 2>or which you were not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was kind of more short and strange. I

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<v Speaker 3>am trying now I should say, yes, of course, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's yeah. I kind of had I had the best

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<v Speaker 3>on the job training, you know, which wasn't given to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I took it assume that I was on this amazing

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<v Speaker 3>set with these incredible actors from all over the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would be insane not to try and learn

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<v Speaker 3>from that. You know, these are the top of their game.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just tried to be like a sponge. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I s it's bizarre, really maybe short and strange the

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<v Speaker 3>way I got into it. I definitely wasn't passed.

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<v Speaker 2>Christiannaire and Beyond the Throne is his memoir about his

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<v Speaker 2>days and not only on Game of Thrones but growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in Ireland and one of your adventures led you

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<v Speaker 2>to DJing and a club. How did you get into that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was actually performing. It was probably the world's

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<v Speaker 3>most unlikely drag artist at the time. The club in Belfast,

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<v Speaker 3>and literally one night as DJ phoned in sick and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, well, I have a last music collection and

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<v Speaker 3>I know how to DJ because I went to me

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<v Speaker 3>to college. I fell then and a Literally I must

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<v Speaker 3>have done something right because since that night I've just

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<v Speaker 3>been at DJ and I haven't stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>DJA and has been since well for the past two decades.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're still actively doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, three three decades. I'm coming up to three, almost

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<v Speaker 3>thirty years. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it about DJing that that makes you happy?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's the crowd really. I mean we get gratification,

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<v Speaker 3>instant reaction, which you don't really get as an actor

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<v Speaker 3>unless you didn't theater. That's a huge high. But the

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<v Speaker 3>crowd can affect me as much as I affect them,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as they're not having a great night or

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<v Speaker 3>there's a weird mood. I love that though. I love

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<v Speaker 3>the whole emotional roller coaster of it all. It's very dramatic,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Game of Thrones as whole door, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>also had appearances on the appearance Robin Hood Rebellion, Mythical

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<v Speaker 2>The God Slayer, and television shows like The Rookie Christian Naire.

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<v Speaker 2>And is with us. Of the co stars that you

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<v Speaker 2>were working with on Game of Thrones, which one do

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<v Speaker 2>you think taught you the most.

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<v Speaker 3>The most? That's interesting. Normally I say here because he

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<v Speaker 3>would be the one I was with most, but I

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<v Speaker 3>guess if we're going for taught, I would say Ron

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<v Speaker 3>Donald No, Ron Donalkey and Donald Sumpter Bosom. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 3>was sort of older actors. Ron played a sell he

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<v Speaker 3>was the arms master in winter Fell, and Donald tays

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<v Speaker 3>like the old sort of doctor meister Lewin. They had

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<v Speaker 3>just such old skill acting techniques. I'm just wonderful to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Every take was different, Like we also were always encouraged

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<v Speaker 3>to for editing sake, try to do something very similar

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<v Speaker 3>slightly different, but for another take you'll do something slightly different.

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<v Speaker 3>They would give it slightly different performance, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>really wonderful to watch. It was almost like watching live theater.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll definitely give it to one of those two.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which you were you were always filming in

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<v Speaker 2>very gothic locations where the weather wasn't always very favorable.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's home for me though. Yeah, some

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<v Speaker 3>of the things were like five miles from my house.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, yeah, I live in western els Man, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was I'm kind of used to that. But it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't like at some at some stages, especially the night shoots,

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<v Speaker 3>and then went through that. That was. That was rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Kristin Naron is with us hod Or from Game of

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<v Speaker 2>Thrones and his memoir is out. It's called Beyond the Throne.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're still a pretty young guy. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people usually wait till they're about ready to retire

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<v Speaker 2>to write a memoir.

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<v Speaker 3>What inspired you, Well, that's when I learned the difference

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<v Speaker 3>in a photobiography and a memoir. I didn't know before

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<v Speaker 3>this because I was like, my Lef's not over, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't write this. But then this is just the first

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<v Speaker 3>part of my life. I say it as and I

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<v Speaker 3>do actually plan to write another one because I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>half the stuff and you're like, oh, okay, I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>about that, And I don't feel that right reached my

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<v Speaker 3>final destination yet, so I'm still very much working and

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<v Speaker 3>seeing what happens. So I am interested to see if

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<v Speaker 3>I can write another book, but I definitely planned to.

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<v Speaker 2>Was there a friend or relative that encouraged you, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to write a book?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm, I don't know. Really. My mom was very behind. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked quite a lot about her in the book,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to get her. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 3>respectful and express permission to talk about all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't think it really suck any my

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<v Speaker 3>family's opinions out side.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that, Christianaire, yeah, uh, Beyond and your moms, I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine she was very supportive all through your childhood and

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<v Speaker 2>your choices of career and and choices of of how

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even when she didn't always agree with the mom,

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<v Speaker 3>she always backed me up. And she still does so

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<v Speaker 3>this very day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very lucky Beyond the Throne his first memoir, Christiannaire,

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<v Speaker 2>and is with us. And let's talk about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the projects you've got coming. The Game of Thrones is

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<v Speaker 2>not where it ends.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I've got a lot of comic cons coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been working on a lot of them. In new music,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been writing some poetry, working on some more writing

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<v Speaker 3>as well, and there's a few projects with I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to talk about amount of the Typical Actors book.

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<v Speaker 3>We all do the actor thing, you know. I'm that's

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<v Speaker 3>so boring, but that's yeah to any time coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine you're a big hit at comic cons.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun. Man. I never expect any of this, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always very busy at comic cons, and i always

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<v Speaker 3>try to be very respectful to my fans, like saying

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<v Speaker 3>my fans, you know, it's weird. I love them and

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they spend their money and they come

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<v Speaker 3>out and they're so kind. It means the world to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond the Throne Christian Narren is the writer of the

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<v Speaker 2>memoir you know as Hodor on Game of Thrones. We

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for joining us and for bringing us this book.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee

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