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your support. Customs and Border Patrol reportedly going to be
coming to Charlotte. Outrage has ensued. How dare federal agents
come to a city in America and attempt to enforce
federal law. The last time this kind of a brew
haha happened, I believe there was a firing on Fort Sumner.
Sumter Sumner was the guy that got beaten down with
the kne right Fort Sumter Citadel guys, as I understand it,
guys from the Citadel were the ones that fired on
the on the Fort down in Charleston. But I digress.
But now, thank goodness, the Charlotte Observer editorial board has
entered the conversation has entered the chat. They're not happy, obviously,
they're open borders as well. No, no, we're not. We're
not open border. Yeah, yeah, you are, you got you are.
You believe that anybody on the planet should be able
to come here for whatever reason, even without a reason.
Totally fine. You know, the the actions of the former
administration laid bare who was open borders and who was not. Because,
as I've gone over many times on this program, the
blanket asylum status that was provided by Alejandro Mayorkas in
clear violation of the law, y'all were for that. Nobody
cared about it. Republicans started squawking about it. You didn't care.
So like, I'm perfectly happy to have actual policy debates
and discussions about how best to address immigration, illegal immigration,
legal immigration and all that. But I learned years ago
that people don't want that, particularly Democrats. They do not
want to have this conversation. Everything is about the fields.
So the editorial board over at the Charlotte Observer, they say, quote,
the main question is why why? So you know me,
I'm a giver, So I'm going to offer you the
answer to your question of why is CBP coming? You
ready to take into custody lawbreakers? That's it. That's why
they're coming because there are people in Charlotte that they
oper are going to target to try to pick up
and deport. And if you don't want those people deported,
well see my previous statement about being open borders. They
go on to say, though, because they just merely ask
the question, they know the answer to the question, they
just ask it in order to pivot into this other explanation,
there is a case for immigration enforcement. Oh really, is
there there's a case for that, particularly when it comes
to addressing the minority of undocumented immigrants who engage in
violent crime? So what's sor are you saying that there's
no case for immigration enforcement for people who came here
illegally and have not committed a violent crime? What about
people who commit nonviolent crimes? Is there a case for
immigration enforcement for them too? Why don't you make that case?
I would love to hear you guys dissect that case. See,
but you're not interested in and actually dissecting that case
or doing an examination of that. No. No, you're just
using that as the springboard as the sort of I'm
not saying that that was good, But now you're gonna
pivot over to explain why maybe in some cases. It
is good. There's nothing to suggest that Charlotte has an
immigration or is an immigration hot spot that's grown out
of control, or that immigrants in Charlotte are a particularly
acute threat to public safety. That doesn't matter. That's a strawmend.
That doesn't matter. We don't need to be designated as
some sort of hot spot. Not relevant. They're coming for
a quote brief stint, as has been reported. We don't
know what that operation is. You don't know what the
operation is, you have no idea, You have no idea,
but you feel confident enough to come out and say
that they shouldn't be here because we are not a
hot spot. Tell me what would be a hot spot?
What's a hot spot? They don't define that. They just
say we're not one, with no definition. This is so lazy.
This is what I'm talking about when I say intellectually flabby.
All they have are these slogans and bumper sticker bromides,
just these appeals to empathy. These are not arguments, right,
You're not defining the debate. You're basically just saying I
don't want to argue that stuff where you know you
would get waxed. So I'm not arguing this other stuff.
I'm just saying this thing without any evidence, sending masked
immigration agents with tactical gear to Rome City streets. Again,
you don't know if any of that's going to happen here.
You have no idea because you don't know what the
operation is. Is at best a last resort and Charlotte
is not in a position of needing such intervention. Again,
you don't know if that's a last resort. President Trump
ran on a campaign of doing this very thing, deporting
illegal immigrants. Why so many, because so many were allowed
to enter under the previous administration, to the point where
even after the election failure of the Democrats, even Democrats
acknowledge to get a little out of control, and the
fact that they lied and you, Observer Editorial Board, lied
about we need new legislation to address this. No, No,
the executive branch did not need new legislation. You just
needed somebody to enforce the law. And that's what's occurring
right now. So you are anti law enforcement. You do
not want the laws enforced. You want amnesty, right, That's
what this is actually an argument about. And you don't
want to have that argument because again, you would be
waxed in that argument. The most likely explanation is that
it's a political move. That's a lie too. You don't
know that. That's the most likely explanation that could be
part of it. In fact, I would probably bet that, yeah,
there's some political motivation behind it as well. Sure Trump
ran on this promise. This is him showing people he's
fulfilling the promise. Okay, but you don't know that it's
that that's the only reason they're coming here. If so,
it's a counterproductive one that will disrupt lives and create
an atmosphere of fear, especially for Charlotte's Latino community. Once again,
I point out ICE is already doing operations here. They're
already doing this. Also, it's not a counterproductive move. It's
only counterproductive. If you want to give him this to
all illegal immigrants, then yes, that would be counterproductive. But
if you are of the mind that people who entered
the country illegally should be sent home as I am,
and there are ways to do that. But there are
all sorts of ways to do that. For example, I
would be okay, like, what is the cost of these operations?
Maybe we take the cost of the operations, break it
down on a per capita basis. For however, many illegals
got sent home. You find out what that cost is
per illegal alien, and then you offer people that money.
So if it costs ten thousand dollars to deport somebody
under the current law enforcement strategy, then why don't we
offer people ten thousand dollars. Here's ten grand go back home,
or nine grand. We'll save ourselves some money, right, or
we can do it the hard way, right, that's a
potential way to go. See. But I'm coming at this
from a different fundamental assumption, which is or fundamental premise,
which is illegal immigrants need to go home. That's what
Trump ran on. That was the main issue that got
him elected, one of the main issues that got him elected.
This is what people have said in polling as well.
And because y'all do not want to deport illegal immigrants,
you think every one of them that got through should
be able to stay. You're coming up with all of
these excuses, all of this demonization of ICE and CBP,
and of course Donald Trump, you know, you're coming up
with all of these justifications and rationalizations for the thing
that you don't want to actually argue, which is pro
amnesty for everybody that got here, which, by the way,
is an insult to everybody that did it the right way.
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got sent something reportedly from tennin immigration immigration attorney posted
online read alert. We are getting reports from different community
members that ice slash CPB is active across all the
Queen City this morning. This morning, Operation Charlotte's Web seems
to be in full effect. Best advice I can give
for villagers who do not have immigration status and are
vulnerable to arrest and deportation. So illegal aliens. So you're
telling people who are breaking the law by being here,
you have an attorney telling them, quote, shelter in place,
stay inside, don't open the door at your home, don't drive,
stay your bleep at home. If you see federal body snatchers,
please call the hotline at seven oh four seven four
zero seven seven three seven. Be vigilant, be safe, take
care of yourself and each other. Mm hmm. Aren't you
an officer of the court, Like, don't you have some
like responsibility to uphold justice and the law? Buster, Welcome
to the program. Hello Buster, Hey Pete, how are you? Hey?
I'm good? What's going on?
Speaker 2: Well? I would encourage that lawyer to go back and
read the rules of professional responsibility. I'm not sure that
her or his interpretation of that is the same as
as as minor yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, I wanted to tell you about an experience I
had just recently. You know, when when the CBP people
come into a town and the community comes out to
greet them with soup cans and you know, skateboard and
things like that, a lot of times the National Guard
has been brought in to restore order. And I was
up in Washington, d C. A few weeks ago when
the National Guard was out and still on the streets
because the mayor, I guess this Muriel Bowser, still had
welcomed their presence, you know, after Big Balls got beat
up and you know, things went out, and you know,
people who were at the outside after our restaurants were
getting accosted and you know everything else. So I just
want to say that, you know, people are afraid that
you know, having you know, customs people come to Charlotte,
you know, or even if the National Guard have to
come in to protect them. You know, Washington, d C.
Is an example of how it was done right. And
I was in between flights of Dallas and had the
day free, so I rode the Metro into the city
and as I came up you know, out of the
Metro down by the White House near Farragut Square. You know,
I had a couple of these uniformed guys. You know,
the one thing I noticed about them is they wouldn't
ride the escalator. They were running up the stairs and
you know how deep those stairs are, two steps at
a time, just you know, nice healthy people of male
and female agents. There were, you know, in fatigues or uniforms.
There were some plane closed people with them, and you know,
the ones who had the uniforms on were armed, and
you know, but you never felt threatened. They were on
the street chatting. Passers by would say hi to them,
and I think they were welcomed by the people up there,
and they were just keeping the peace. And the reason
they were keeping the peace is there was enough of
a police presence. Everybody knew that it was time for
the bad guys to take the day off, right, And
you know, I thought, you know, well, I'll go around
and talk to some people who were local. And you know,
a lot of the people that you meet on the
street when you're up on the National Mall or around
the monuments or chorists. But I did talk to one
guy who was there, who was a congressional staffer who
had his parents there with him, a young, you know,
young guy, and I probably looked like an old geezer,
and so you know, he probably guessed my politics and
I guessed his politics, and I think he worked on
the minority side. But you know, he he told me that,
you know, things had really gotten better and that he
felt safer. And I think if our community would embrace
them in that spirit, you know, it's going to be
a good thing to get you know, some of these
you know, drug gangs away from Charlotte.
Speaker 1: No, we don't have anything like that in Charlotte. Bust,
Oh we have. Yeah, we don't have like the Latin
Kings operating here. We don't have any of these types
of entities or organizations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen Sinaloa. No, No, no, they've they've they've passed
over Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course there's a there are far bigger
cities between Atlanta and DC for them to put down
roots in. We all know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I just I think I think we could.
You know, if people just don't freak out, you know,
good things will happen and they'll be here and they'll
be gone. It doesn't sound like they're really here to
patrol the streets. But you know, if things go sideways,
I mean, if you come after them with a soup
can or a skateboard, you're gonna end up with your
notes in the pavement and your hands cuffed behind your back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as yeah, as you should. Buster. I appreciate the call, sir,
all I have a great weekend. All right, let me
get a couple of messages here off the text line,
Jeff says, Pete, could you use the fifty thousand watt
blow torch and tell Ice and CBP not to forget
about Gaston County. That's why do they got to just
stay in Charlotte now? To be fair, I don't know
if they're just staying in Charlotte seven oh four number.
My question is if they don't want anybody warned, why
do they even tell us they are coming here? Yeah?
I don't know. I don't know why there was this
advanced notice given to New Orleans and to Charlotte, although
I did see somebody here, it is Bain says, a
lot of advanced publicity. Could it be this is actually
a second phase learning where the illegal immigrants go? When
they're told that they may be arrested. Who's helping them,
who's housing them? Would they be considered accomplices? Would it
lead to the discovery of a network of safe haven's.
That's pretty important. I say ICE has some hunches and
this is an attempt to prove connections. The same can
be said about the protesters. Ice has eyes on groups
and want to track their sourcing and movement. Just a thought,
and then he says, I'm told the military does similar things.
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the enemy responds. Often there's no plan to stage an attack,
but you gain valuable intel by watching what triggers another
nation's movement. Everyone has certain thresholds and patterns of activity.
There's movement in New Orleans too, lots of interstates hither
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Let us take a listen to the news conference that
was held today. I've got several sound bites, basically the
entire thing chopped up into digestible chunks for us. Sorry
about that imagery there. This is the press conference for
joining us today.
Speaker 3: I am North Carolina House Representative member representative I used
to do.
Speaker 1: I just forgot my name. Thank you so much for
joining us.
Speaker 3: We're all gathered here from many branches of government, from
obviously our state legislature, our school board, our county commission,
our city council members. Because we do not want ice here.
We do not need a border patrol. As I've already said,
I'm not quite sure what border we're patrolling here. Are
we patrolling Rock Hill or South Carolina. We don't have
borders here in North Carolina that need to be protected.
Speaker 1: Okay, So much of our political discourse is derailed by
leftists pretending not to understand basic things. I don't understand
what borders do we have? We do have borders. We
have a lot of borders, actually, Yeah, North Carolina, Charlotte,
Charlotte City limits, all the small towns, the six small towns,
they all have borders. Mecklimber County, Scott borders. We have
a state border, so we do have borders. Now you're
talking about national borders. No, well except for the coastline.
But Charlotte, No, doesn't have national borders. That is correct. However,
the administration can reallocate agents and officials and law enforcement
officers in order to do these types of targeted operations.
They're allowed to do this. So I again, like, let's
not be derailed by you pretending not to understand the
basic thing.
Speaker 3: We don't need to be protected from Virginia, Tennessee, North
South Carolina. And I'm sorry, but people are not joining
us in Wilmington. So there's absolutely no reason for us.
You have ice that you have border patrol here. This
is a safe city. Our crime rates have gone down
since the previous year. This is just another something out
of the playbook. When you look at Washington, d C.
The National Guard was picking up litter. So if they
want people here to help us pick up litter, I
think we've got that covered as well.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 3: We don't need people here to help us clean up
our city. We can take care of our city. We
can take care of our own in twenty sixteen when
there were protests. We had a democratic governor imagine that,
and a democratic mayor, and when they thought that things
were too much, they actually called in the national guard.
No one here is called in the national Guard. No
one here is called in border patrol. We know how
to take care of our city, We know how to
protect our city, and we simply do not meet them here.
Speaker 1: Okay, So no, and no, you don't know how to
protect the city. You don't. That's been clear with the
increase in homicides, that's been clear the recent crime since COVID,
like all of like the catch and release judicial system like,
it's clear you do not know how to actually do this,
and it's also clear that other big cities do not
know how to do it, or if you do know how,
you refuse to do I also know that there were
no judges at this event today.
Speaker 3: So next up we will hear from Representative Jordan.
Speaker 1: Love Chez. She doesn't know the people's names her own colleagues.
Speaker 4: Thank you everybody, good morning. In the interest of brevity,
I will try to keep my remarks short. First, thank
you to never one of you for being here this morning.
Thank you to my colleagues across our local government for
being here this morning, for my constituents, for all of
our constituents. I just want to say that we see you,
we are standing with you, we are here for you.
Speaker 1: I feel your pain. Over the past several.
Speaker 4: Days, I've had conversations with community members, with leaders, with neighbors,
and each time we talk about this expected enforcement operation
from the federal government. And I'm speaking to people across
all races, across all backgrounds, across legal statuses, and the
common denominator is fear and concern. We've seen what has
taking place in other cities across this country when the
federal government gets involved. We have seen the undisciplined agents
pointing weapons at unarmed civilians, the indiscriminate rounding up of
civilians who are sleeping in their homes in the middle
of their night. In Chicago, we have seen the worst
of law enforcement. And as a lawmaker myself, I know
laws must be enforced, but the how matters, And whenever
you decide that creating the perception of peace through fear tactics,
through militarized agents walking down the street, that doesn't feel
like a safe for a welcoming community.
Speaker 1: To me, that feels like a prison, and that is
Oh my guy, We're just like Gaza. We're an open
air prison. Trump is turning us into Gaza.
Speaker 4: Is not what the people of House District one twelve
we're asking for. That is not what the people of
the City of Charlotte are asking for.
Speaker 1: The people now some people are asking for you should
talk to different people. It sounds like you're only talking
to people that agree with you on stuff.
Speaker 4: That's what that sounds like lacross Mecklunberg County. We do
not want that here. So I stand with our local
law enforcement leaders, our executive leaders like Mayor Lyles, who
have asked for greater communication from the federal government because
the interest of all of us, I believe is the
safety of our constituents, is the safety of our city.
And we want to make sure that everybody knows we
are standing with them. And we also want safe cities,
but we want to make sure we do it in
the right way. So thank each and every one of
you all for being here again, and I believe I
will be passing this off next to account back to representative.
Do appreciate you.
Speaker 1: All, all right? So he wants to do it the
right way, and the right way yields the result of amnesty. Again,
if you just listen to all of these remarks with
an understanding that all of their positions and arguments are
predicated on a belief that anybody who gets here and
says ali Ali oxen free and whatever name of tongue
they have like, then they should be allowed to stay.
That's it. That's the predicate. Everything else flows from there,
all of these other excuses and rationalizations and justifications that
it's all done in service to that. That's it, all right.
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let me I'll jump over here and get CJ on
real quick. Hey CJ, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Thank you. I just wanted to say I don't care
what these politicians say. I haven't been downtown in or
uptown in years because it's not safe. Washington, d C
is safe. We're not safe because a lot of these
men that are mentally ill and women, they're out there
and they're carrying night and gosh only knows what until
they build a hospital where they should be in where
they can watch them. They're out on the street, and
then they keep letting them out. I think they should
I think these politicians should be well eradicated to something
because they're not doing their job is an absolute joke.
So they do something. I think that should come here
and police the streets and get all of these people
who are meittially il off the street. But they're going
to put them.
Speaker 1: Well, CG.
Speaker 5: They need to build a hospitals. They can build other
things that can build.
Speaker 1: A hospital, Yeah, well we used we used to have one.
They shut it down, the Darthy Dix Hospital up in
Raleigh area. And this is one of the things that
the local FOP said when they endorsed the idea of
the National Guard coming to Charlotte was that it will
relieve some of the pressure on CMPD, which is understaffed.
But that is not what I understand the CBP role
to be. But I appreciate the call. Have a great weekend, CJ.
CBP is apparently coming to do a brief stint. They've
got operations that they're going to be running. There's another
thing to keep in mind here too. The alarmism is
a it's a tried and true strategy of leftist agitators
and organizations, and they have an incentive. These organizations and
politicians have an incentive to make people afraid because that
makes those people a little more sticky to the organizations
and the politicians. Right. It shows the people that are
getting these warnings, shows them that this activist organization is
looking out for them, and that breeds loyalty. So they
have incentives here as well. Let me pick up the
audio from the press conference.
Speaker 3: We have so many people here to speak. I'm actually
going to stalk to one of our community members who
actually came up from Charleston without having to go through
border patrol, who is representing.
Speaker 1: Scius Waca Waca, Waka, get it, just across the border.
Get it.
Speaker 6: I'm one of my brothers and sisters. It's a good
morning to be here on this chill, but it's an
exciting morning to be here travel from Charleston. I am
My name is Nis Brown. I am the union representative
for the North Carolina area. I represent the workers here
in North Carolina, and I came to stand in solidarity
with our politicians, our community leaders, our working families, our children,
the entire Charlotte community. I actually want to say that
I'm a union leader that believe in making it clear
that our priority is to protect our workers, no matter
who they are, no matter the color of their skin,
It doesn't matter where they came from. Our priority is
to protect our workers.
Speaker 1: So would that include the workers that have their wages
undercut by illegal labor? What about those workers? I mean,
it's sciu.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: The part in US custom and border control here in
Charlotte does not make sense. I'm with you, sister, in
our city is an attack on our community, our workers,
and our first amendments. The deployment is a pattern from
the administration that target democratic led city.
Speaker 1: Well, all of the cities are Democrat led, and you
guys can't seem to do anything different, you know, like
all of these democrat led cities behave in the same ways.
So yes, that's where you're going to send these types
of operators.
Speaker 6: Especially those led by black leaders.
Speaker 1: Ah, there it is who choose.
Speaker 6: To welcome all of God's children.
Speaker 1: Legal and illegal. See again, notice there's never any differentiation
between legal and illegal. Never. I don't know.
Speaker 6: About you, but Charlotte is a Bible city and we
believe that we love everybody. All of us are God's children.
So no workers should feel fair being in the city
of Charlotte.
Speaker 1: About ones that commit violent crime, should they fear feel
fear in the Bible city. No, yes, curious city. Oh
they get to some questions from the media. Spoiler alert,
no hard questions.
Speaker 6: Be detained, assaulted, taken by federal agents simply for showing
up for work.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they were. They're taken into custody because
they were legal aliens. That's that's the reason. It's not
just because it's not because they showed up for work.
Speaker 6: We don't need immigration and custom and force coming into
Charlotte disrupting our city, creating fear in our city and workplace,
trying to divide our community and to make surete a
less safe place.
Speaker 1: No it yeah, it's not a less safe place. It's
only going to get less safe if you democrats and
activists start acting like dumbasses and start attacking law enforcement.
That's what makes things unsafe. See, when you think that
the laws don't apply to you. And I understand why
you would think that, because you're literally advocating for lawbreakers
to not be held accountable under the law. So I understand,
like this is your mode of thinking, But try to
put yourself in someone else's position. They think that if
you break the law, that you should not be allowed
to break the law and that there should be a penalty,
and that's what you're seeing. So as long as you
guys don't attack law enforcement, it's not going to make
us less safe. All right. That'll do it for this episode.
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