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Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome in. It's Monday morning. It's time

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for full court press. Robino.

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Speaker 2: I saw you last prior to going to Allen Field House,

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and it's like that, that's you know, there's there's life before,

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there's life before you go there, and then there's life

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after you go there. So I'm a changed person since

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we last, since we last spoke. On Saturday, I got

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to go to the Kansas BYU game. Not the outcome

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that I was hoping for as someone with b YU

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plus four and a half, though they almost got there

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at the very end. But but what a tremendous experience.

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That was a much better day for me. Yesterday I

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swept yesterday three and oh so all in all, a

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good weekend. There's no way your weekend could have been

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good as good as mine because you did not go

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to allen Field House.

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Speaker 1: But how was your weekend aside from that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, wait a minut, how about Schaefitz because Saint Louis

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was rocking on Friday night they destroys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Tula, listen, Tulsa was great yesterday I got uh.

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Both had had tremendous crowds. Both those are two teams

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and I'll say this to if you can get to

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a Saint Louis game or a Tulsa game in the

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next month, you should absolutely try to do so. Like,

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if you're in the Midwest somewhere and it's a couple

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hour drive to yourself a favor, go watch that Saint

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Louis team play in person. Go watch Tulsa play in person.

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Two tremendous offensive teams and both Like I was so

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impressed with the game like production from Tulsa yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Just like that.

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Speaker 2: That was like the sort of pleasant surprise of the

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weekend for me in terms of like all the places

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I went. I knew Alan field House was gonna be insane,

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and it was. The crowd at Saint Louis on Friday

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night was awesome. I knew that was sold out. What

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I was not expecting was like six or seven thousand

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people to show up at the Tulsa game and all

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of the different stuff they had, just like production wise

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for that game, the light show, like they it was awesome.

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So yeah, those are two teams though that I mean,

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if you can get to one of those games this year,

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I think both Robino could make potentially make some noise

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in March.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was a good weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. C Then let's go back to how the weekend went.

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You had a three and oh yesterday I had a

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two and one. So for anybody who was on board,

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we'll start early here the double, the CBB firepower package.

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You got five and one yesterday on Saturday, Adam, I

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believe I was five and three in college hoop on Saturday.

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Real heartbreaker on Saturday, where I would have had all

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five top play winners. I had USC over seventy eight

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and a half. And what happened in the last five

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minutes of that game is a sixteen point lead and

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you have seventy four points with about five to go,

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and you can't score five points the rest of the way,

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even though Rutgers closed the gap and you can get

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to the free throw line. But it was crazy. USC

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just never really had any chances. I don't know how

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to explain it, but that aside, we had a good weekend.

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Friday night, obviously two and zero had the Saint Louis

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team total over. I forget what we left here for

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the parlay. Oh it was Sacred Heart. Sacred Heart dropped

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another ninety plus on Quinnipiac that night. So great weekend overall.

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If I calculate that in my head real quick, that's

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four and one, five and three, that's nine and four

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over the weekend college hoops so again, weekend package, three

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day package, double the CBB firepower fifty nine bucks for

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three days and Adam, like you said, off to a

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huge start in February.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good weekend. We have people have

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now filed in. I was trying to just kind of

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chat it up for a couple of minutes because it

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looked like the stream wasn't going.

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Speaker 1: But the stream is up.

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Speaker 2: The count of people here has increased, so I think

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it's time to get into it. Rob not a huge

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slate tonight, but we have one game that absolutely deserves

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the attention.

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Speaker 1: You know, should should.

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Speaker 2: Probably be the game that's on your main screen come

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nine pm Eastern time tonight. The Kansas Jayhawks very impressive

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over the weekend. I have to be honest, I was

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I was not expecting them to just sort of bully

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BYU the way they did in that game. The final

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scores was a little bit misleading. I was sitting there

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with a chance to cover four and a half somehow

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at the end of that game.

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Speaker 1: But Kansas ended up getting it done.

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Speaker 2: They deserve to win, They deserved to probably win by

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double digits. The big takeaway from the second half of

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that game, Robino, is Darren no Peterson in the second half, right,

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and you know he leaves with cramps. I thought it

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made sense because they were up. I mean, they were

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up twenty more than twenty at one point, I believe

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if I remember correctly, I know it was right around

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twenty eighteen at half. I think in the second half

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at multiple points it got two twenty and maybe even

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over a twenty point margin. So when you've had a

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guy dealing with injury, rob and you've got a guy

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that's cramping, absolutely no reason to put him out there.

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Maybe it's why Byu came back a little bit, though

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I have a theory that that's a little bit different

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than that. So talk to me about this game. Now,

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Kansas hits the road. They go to Lubbock, Texas Tech

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had had an interesting loss over the weekend, one I

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certainly wasn't expecting. So how do you see this Kansas

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on the road tonight in love with Texas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's start with Kansas Adam, it's a team that's

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red hot inside the Big twelve right now, five consecutive covers.

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It started with Iowa State in that blowout game eighty

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four to sixty three. It's bracketed by what happens Saturday

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that you witnessed the ninety to eighty two win against BYU,

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which wasn't really as close as the final score would indicate,

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like you mentioned, and they did a lot of it

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without Darren Eaters in second half. I think he said

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the final sixteen minutes or so. But you know, Melvin

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Counsel Junior talked about him earlier this year, what a

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pickup from St. Bonnie. Melvin Council Junior has been and

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the starting starting group for Kansas put in a ton

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of minutes, put in a lot of work, got the

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job done against b YU. If I get the Texas

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Tech on Saturday, Adam, I'm maybe it's gonna sound like

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I'm justifying this, but I'm just gonna call it a

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Houston hangover. Some of the numbers that came out of

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that game on Saturday for Texas Tech lose by eight,

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give up eighty eight to UC, which is a high

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scoring team, but eighty eight. It's a lot to give up.

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Get beat on the free throw line minus ten and

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free throw attempts minus eleven in free throw makes so

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you lose eleven points right there at the foul line.

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But Texas Tech, which contested Houston so well on the

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glass twice in two meetings this year, could only pull

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away four offensive rebounds while the other side got thirteen.

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Central Florida lots of second chances. Texas Tech just almost

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like they were gassed, had thirteen turnovers, only four to six.

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you start to go over some of these numbers. They

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shot it really well, but it wasn't enough because they

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just didn't do the little things, the hustle things that

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I think Houston can take out of you because of

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the energy that you have to extend against Houston. Go

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ahead and travel to Florida Orlando and get beat. So

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it's the life of the Big Twelve Conference. Obviously, there's

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never an easy out or an easy win in this

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particular league. But Texas Tech overall has been good. And

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if I just use Houston as a comp they played

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them twice now, they've played them extremely tough, but Texas

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Tech at home is really where I want to go here,

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because they beat BYU fairly sound eighty four to seventy one. Again,

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that was a game that was close, and then Texas

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Tech broke away last five minutes or so. Really they

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changed the game at that point. And then they've beaten

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Houston here. So when you've beaten BYU by thirteen, when

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you've beaten Houston by four, here asking you to beat

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Kansas by four and a half on this home floor,

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after Kansas comes away with the win that they had

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the other day and now travels and you both six

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and two inside the league, it's a big game record

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wise for Big twelve seeding. The matchups are gonna be

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the matchups, Adam. I mean, we both know they have

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great players. We don't have to discuss personnel at that

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depth anymore. But some of the things that Kansas and

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Texas Tech do well they could be advantages. Texas Tech

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shoots the three better than any team in the Big

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twelve and Big twelve play KU doesn't defend the three

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tenth in the league. Defending the three, that could be

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a difference maker here for Texas Tech. Just not a

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great rebounding team. I only bring that up because Texas

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Tech has been so good the combatively on the glass

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against a team like Houston. Now you get Kansas. It's

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almost a step down in rebounding class. So there's some

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things here that Texas Tech fundamentally has advantages in. Got

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to keep Ku off the foul line they like to

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get there. We'll see. I'd imagine Peterson gets his full

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minutes here, Adam, because for those wanting to back Kansas, say, hey,

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we just wanted home with Darren Peterson playing after game

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and now he's going to play a full game. But

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I think Texas Tech's the right side here. It's a

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lot of situational college basketball team off a bad loss,

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team off the absolutely terrific win, now has to travel.

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Other team gets to, you know, a tone for their

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loss on their home floor. I like, excuse me, Texas

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Tech here minus to four and a half. Recent results

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at home have proven they can handle it, and I

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think the situation sets up nice for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that four and a half numbers is

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probably pretty like what I you know, right, I think

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I made it four point nine, So I'm not surprised

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that it's it's in the four and a half range.

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I feel like some people might be surprised that Texas

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Tech coming off the loss and Kansas looking as good

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as they did this weekend is like a five point

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home favorite.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's about where it should be. Robin.

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Speaker 2: I think I lean your way just in the in

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the respect that you know, if Texas Tech shoots the

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ball well and they can sort of ride that that

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home energy here and then the shots start falling, they

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could create some separation.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing to me is like, yes, Kansas has

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this big win over BYU, but I think it's less

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likely for Kansas to to let down for a couple

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of reasons. One, you know, you go back to Peterson, Well,

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they were it was.

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Speaker 1: I just pulled it up.

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Speaker 2: It was fifty three thirty three at halftime like it was.

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I was sitting next to a couple of BYU fans,

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like there's like four of them right in front of me,

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and I feel like every every other Kansas fan like

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these four. And that's credit to BYU fans because they

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are like they're like the best fans. They never that

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they're gonna ride or die with their teams no matter

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what they like. They don't get mad at their teeth

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like they're they're just cheering them on. And I'm like

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watching these four them like these four are like the

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only four people in the building that that think b

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YU has a chance to get back in this game.

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And then I'm sitting back here with a Kansas zip

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up bomb. But I've got b YU plus four and

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a half, so I'm I'm like, let's go. And it

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was weird. It was like BYU just kind of like

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lulled Kansas to like they were Kansas like pretty much

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felt like they had the game one. BYU started just

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chucking threes and hitting them. I think that's what Texas

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that might that's probably their their path to like blowing

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this game open. You know, don Donovan Apple was a

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guy that it came over from UNC Greensborough who I

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really liked at Greensboro. That I think, if I mean,

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if they just start chucking and a tim In Watts

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can knock down a couple of threes, like Tech could

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open this game up, and then you're and then you're

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probably covering your five or whatever whatever that number is.

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Speaker 1: You know, something from sun a Saturday.

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Speaker 2: That I felt was really good that Kansas did well

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was they never really let the Vans to get in

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the flow of the game. They had him clamped early

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and they were all over, the fans were all over

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the overrated chance and and he couldn't do much one

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on one.

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Speaker 1: But I just think, like going to.

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Speaker 2: Your point, Texas Tech has more shooters and if they

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just you know, they're gonna have to make shots though, right,

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But it's it's They're a good three point shooting team.

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They have a couple of guys that can really cook

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from from the perimeter. So if Texas Tech is making shots,

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they they could blow this game open and they could

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create that margin. That being said, the flip side that

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you could look at for Kansas is like just how

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dominant they were when peters And was on the floor

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for that first twenty minutes where he played about seventeen

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of them, that that Kansas team looked like that they

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look like you could beat anyone in the country. That

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was as impressive of twenty minutes of basketball to do

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that to BYU, who I think is a very good

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team that I've seen in person all year, and I've

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been to a lot of different games.

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Speaker 1: Peterson comes out in the second half.

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Speaker 2: What I'm curious to know and my gut says self

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looked at the scoreboard a couple of minutes in the

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second half and was like, I think we're okay here,

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Like I think we could hold off a twenty point

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lead for the final seventeen minutes of the game. I

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think the decision was made right there. Hey, you got

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a big game on Monday. Hang it up, like just

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we're good and you know, like I said, credit to

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BYU for cutting it to four at one point, but

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that was as close as it got. So Rob, I'll

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throw another lean out here. I think there's points in

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this game because if Peterson plays the whole game, that

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offense is like it's so much different than when he's

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not on the floor. So I think I agree with

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your Texas Tech lean, but I'll add another one.

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Speaker 1: I'll go over in.

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Speaker 2: This one Tech Texas Tech Kansas because I think if

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the threes are falling for the Red Raiders, you're probably

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gonna have a high scoring game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're BYU is concerned. Let's just get back

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to that for an instant adam against top quality competition

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this year, they've kind of shown that ability to dig

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a hole and get out of that hole and make

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it close at the end. Right, you take back to

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the Yukon game, they were in a hole, they made

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it close at the end. The prior game to Saturday

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against Arizona, we talked about the final fifty five seconds

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in that game. They were in a huge hole, almost insurmountable.

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Somehow they found their way out, and then they almost

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find their way out against Kansas. It's almost like BYU

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has to learn how to be a little bit closer,

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you know, throughout the game so they don't have to

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shovel themselves out of trouble. And to your point, I

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mean on the on the Texas tech side, you've got

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Christian Anderson, and these are guys that aren't small sample size.

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One hundred and sixty five threes he's thrown up this

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year forty four percent, forty three point six to be exact,

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from three point range. Atwell, who you mentioned Donovan Atwell,

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another guy one hundred and sixty five threes this year

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forty four point two percent. You've got Petty who's put

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up one hundred and two three pointers shooting thirty seven

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percent there's so many options that you know, Richie Saunders

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had a big game Saturday, Adam to your point about

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Kansas saying, hey, we're gonna lock up the Bansta, And

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I'll just expand on what you said a little bit

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that there's a lot of options to guard here. Because

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we didn't even mention J. T. Toppins's name in the

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three point shot. I mean, if are you gonna guard

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the perimeter, which you don't guard well anyway tenth in

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the league in guarding the three, or are you gonna

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if you focus on topping, these guys could kill you

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from the perimeter. So there's a lot more to worry about,

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I think Texas Tech as far as options are concerned

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than BYU where Cada is, you know, kind of a

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alley oop type guy or a lob guy on offense

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and not much else. While we were speaking at him,

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while you were speaking, this game went as low as

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three and a half, and then the three and a

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half's almost every one of them got bought back to four.

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So we went from four and a half down to

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three and a half back to mostly four. There's still

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a couple of straight three and a half's out there,

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but within this you know, ten seventeen. We've been talking

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about this game for about nine eight nine minutes now.

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In that span of time, we've seen line movement both ways. Here,

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one group going KU, another group pushing back with Texas Tech. Again.

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Game did open three and a half, for what it's worth,

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got to four and a half and to the total

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open one fifty and a half now staring at one

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fifty four and a half. So the money agrees with

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your look at the over in this game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, had to do a thorough in there.

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Speaker 2: They'll probably clip this one, so we had to give

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him side in total. But yeah, and it's the game

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of the night and on a Monday night where there's

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not as many other games. Got to give that one

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the full attention, Rob Vino. There was a point in time,

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although it feels like a distant memory to me and

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everyone in the five to one, the three to one

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five area code. Of course, I'm from the five to

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one eight area code, where there is a very large

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concentration of Syracuse fans as well. There was a point

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in time where this game on a Monday night would

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have been just as big of a deal. But Syracuse

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basketball has seen better days. You could say the same

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thing a little bit about North Carolina, though there I

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would say having a fairly good season this year. Though

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I don't know that this is like to North Carolina

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standards what they would consider a great season.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good season.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: They're back and they're in the top twenty five, so

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that's good.

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Speaker 2: Cues calmed the fan base down finally over the weekend

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with the win over Notre Dame because because folks are

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getting rid to riot after the losing by twenty to

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NC State, so q's gets back in the win column.

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Now they have to head to Chapel Hill was not

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surprised at the fact that they opened a double digit underdog.

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I'm a little bit surprised that this one has moved

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to where it's where it is now, So Robbino, does

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Syracuse have any chance to pull.

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Speaker 1: The upset at the Dean Dog tonight?

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Speaker 3: You know what's interesting to me, Adam digging through and

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I'm so glad that you have like paperwork all over

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when you're doing the show, because I'm that same guy,

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Like I have paperwork everywhere here on this desk. But

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when I was going through this game this morning, it's

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interesting we started this season. I hadn't know a couple

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of months ago, and in the early stages November December,

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let's let's talk maybe mid December, we were talking about

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the height of UNC, right and how big they are

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across the front line, and how they're gonna be a

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little bit better defensively and maybe there's more rim protection

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and more interior score, et cetera, et cetera. Only to

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get to this point in the year and find North

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Carolina just being North Carolina. Seven and zero over the

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total their games are the last seven games. Six and

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one over the total is their team total last seven games.

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They haven't scored less than seventy eight points in any

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ACC game so far this year they've played nine. UNC

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is the same, although differently built. They're the same dynamic offense.

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I won't say they're the same, you know, vulnerable defense,

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but there's still not a great defense considering all of

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that height. Have to approach UNC very very different nowadays.

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That's why this total went from one fifty two and

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a half all the way to one fifty six and

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a half. Because how else you're gonna play North Carolina

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games anymore? You gotta look total first, if you're over first,

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if you're looking at total the Syracuse side, I'm gonna

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say a couple of things here and have you explain

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them to me. We've talked about William Kyle, a bunch

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rim defender, et cetera, et cetera. It's true they're fourth

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in the ACC and blocks in as or block percentage

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in ACC play, but man, they don't defend real well.

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Effect The field goal percentage eleventh from two point range

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inside the arc, they're twelfth in the conference, which is

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kind of surprising because we constantly say here on the

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show that they should provide pretty good rim defense. The

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block shots are one thing, but you still got to

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stop the other side from scoring, whether it's mid range

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or what it is. They just haven't been that good.

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Saturday they go out against Notre Dame. They shoot lights out.

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A couple of numbers here, Syracuse has played twenty two games.

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It's only the seventh time this season out of twenty

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two where they shot fifty percent or better. It's the

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second highest field goal percentage they've shot all season. They

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were really, really good. And when you go down the

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box from Saturday and you start seeing you know, who

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did the score here? You say to yourself, man, these

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guys are pretty good. How come they're not better? Donnie

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Freeman basically didn't even contribute in that game, and we

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spent a lot of time talking about when Donnie Freeman

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gets back into the lineup, et cetera. So for Syracuse,

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a bit of an enigma on the defensive end. How

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much can they put up on the offensive end here?

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To get this thing over the way everybody thinks it's

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gonna go, They're gonna have to score a little bit.

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Maybe North Carolina allows them to score a little bit,

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because like I say, they're seven and oh their games

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are seven and oh to the over last seven. UNC

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is shooting the three really well this year. I don't know, Adam.

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I just I've come full circle now on North Carolina,

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and all those thoughts I had about them being a

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better defensive team and maybe a more methodical team are

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all out the window. At this point. They score, they

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run the up points. They're an over team. So maybe

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I looked that direction. I just want to give a

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quick check to the Syracuse team total, because that thought

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crossed my mind. Here seventy two and a half. I'll

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dig into it a little further during the day, but

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for Syracuse to get the seventy three might be a

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consideration here because again UNC has been not the greatest

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on the defensive end this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll be interested to see what coach

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Autrey does with his starting lineup. Like over the weekend

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he decided to bring Donnie Freeman off the bench. You

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have to wonder, Rob if that has anything to do

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with the fact that they they're better defensive performances were

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when he was out with an injury. So if you

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go back to the players tournament back you know, the

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Vegas MTE that was like Thanksgiving your feast week time period.

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One of their best defensive efforts of the game or

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of the season was that game against Houston that they

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probably should have won, which you know would have been

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a tremendous win for a team like Syracuse. And then

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the next day against Kansas for the majority of that

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game they were pretty good defensively. And then the game

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I went to where they played Tennessee, they were tremendous defensively,

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probably their best defensive effort of the season in that

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game against the Balls where they get the outright win

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as an eight point dog in like a sixty I

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think both teams barely broke sixty. So and I left

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that game thinking, man, like this isn't you know, William

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Kyle's blocking everything.

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Speaker 1: The defense is is really intense.

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Speaker 2: It's all a man to man and they're just locking

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up there, you know, their their opponent. And then Freeman

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comes back, the defense hasn't been as good. I don't

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know that he's the issue, but you know, I mean,

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I think Syracuse has a lot of other issues in

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addition to like maybe you know, having regressed defensively now

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over the weekend. Do we think that that was like

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some great defensive performance. No, I think they were just

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playing Notre Dame, who's been without their best player, right, Like,

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I don't think that that was just some like crazy

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defensive performance.

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Speaker 1: It was a good effort by Cus.

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Speaker 2: They put up eighty six points they never really had,

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you know, there was never really a doubt for them

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in that game. But I don't think like that having

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Donny Freeman come him off the bench is some genius

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idea that Red Autry just concocted here, right, So.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what way they go.

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Speaker 2: Does he bring him off the bench again and try

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to go like ultra defensive to start this game, maybe

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to just you know, throw you and see out of

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their rhythm. But the problem with that, Rob is how

479
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how does Syracuse hang around with North Carolina if Freeman

480
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,039
doesn't give them twenty or twenty five points?

481
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,039
Speaker 1: Right, you can't have a seven point.

482
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,559
Speaker 2: Game from Freeman like you had over the weekend and

483
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,000
expect to be anywhere near you and see in this game.

484
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,920
So that makes it very challenging. I will wrap it

485
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,079
up with this, just watching this team over the years

486
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,000
Syracuse and in recent years when they've had bad teams

487
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,039
or what I consider it to be teams, like like

488
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,000
bad CUS teams. This is the game. This is the

489
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,480
type of the game that they tend to show up in.

490
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:14,519
This game on the road, no one really giving them

491
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,400
a chance, double digit underdog. There was one a couple

492
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,960
of years back. I feel like at UNC they maybe didn't.

493
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,680
They played really good for a long stretch and maybe

494
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,119
they like think they might have covered right at the end.

495
00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:28,519
But to me, I think you have to go back

496
00:25:28,599 --> 00:25:31,359
like two years for that one. It was a road game,

497
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,039
cuse at UNC, it was a Saturday afternoon point is

498
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:38,200
I wouldn't be surprised if if they gave an effort here.

499
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,839
You know, that was a big win over Notre Dame

500
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:43,720
to just quiet the fan base. I don't know that

501
00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:47,079
they have people back on the side of Autrey or

502
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,480
that the fans are still not furious, but you know,

503
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:52,400
it was a good win and something to build off of.

504
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,160
If Syracuse can defend a high level here, which they

505
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,839
have it in them because they've done it against Houston, Kansas,

506
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,559
against Tennessee. If they can do that, I think they

507
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,599
can cover twelve and a half, which is where this

508
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,880
is steamed to at this point. I don't know if

509
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,880
this is gonna make my card rob but I do

510
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:14,039
think that q S might be a be able to

511
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:15,519
hang around in this game. I don't know if they

512
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:18,079
can win, but I don't I wouldn't be that surprised

513
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:23,960
if this was more competitive than people think. All right,

514
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:27,279
let's uh, I gotta go to Garth here. Sorry, Garth,

515
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:31,240
that was a premeditated transition to q S UNC, so

516
00:26:31,519 --> 00:26:32,440
I'll get you in here.

517
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Garth donated. He says, we haven't talked much Big Sky

518
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,960
about ball this season. Yeah, that is that is true.

519
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,279
Speaker 2: I think you know why, Garth, you know why that is?

520
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,799
It's not a slight toward the Big Sky. I think

521
00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:47,039
it's because they always play a league slate on Saturday,

522
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:50,440
and on Saturday, they're pretty much never gonna come up

523
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,400
in conversation unless you're really noisy.

524
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: In the chat.

525
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know that Kelly Stewart really respects

526
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,839
the Big Sky Conference. That's just what my gut says.

527
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,319
He But yeah, so let's get some Big Sky talking

528
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:05,519
because Rob. But going into the season, when we were

529
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,160
we had the idea of how do we, you know,

530
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,839
handle all these teams. Maybe we'll we'll split the leagues

531
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,680
up a little bit. You were kind of like, well,

532
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,160
I I like, you know, I stay up and I

533
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,400
bet some totals in this conference quite a bit. The

534
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,880
game Garth wants to talk about specifically is Portland State,

535
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,920
who was sort of running roughshod through this league, and

536
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,920
then they finally had the game that was kind of like,

537
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:31,079
you know, they were they were always going to be

538
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,400
do a little bit of regression, and it came in

539
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,000
the Montana State. The Montana game over the weekend. I

540
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,960
believe they caught Montana State without their best players, so

541
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:42,440
maybe a little bit more regression for them, but they

542
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,000
still won the game because Montana State, I think, only

543
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:48,079
put up fifty four points. Do you see kind of

544
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,839
Portland State getting back to what they were, you know,

545
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,440
prior to the Montana Montana teams, because I don't think

546
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,640
they played their best ball against Montana and Montana State

547
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,039
the last two times out.

548
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: And it was still close and they still did what

549
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,039
their trademark has been. It's very, very interesting to see

550
00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:10,680
Portland State evolve into this dominant of a defensive team

551
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,920
inside league play. Adam Portland State is one of those

552
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,640
teams over the course of the last couple decades where

553
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240
they're just up and down the floor and scoring points

554
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,480
that most of my success with this particular team last

555
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,440
twenty years has been playing to the over. But you're

556
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,440
not playing to the over and having a lot of

557
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,200
success with Portland State this year. It's where the biggest

558
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,880
discrepancy in this game lies because Idaho State is not

559
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,039
a good defensive team. Idaho State's going to have to

560
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:42,440
score in order to beat them. First time around, this

561
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,880
game went ninety three to eighty seven. It was seventy

562
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,720
eight seventy eight after regulation, So you had one hundred

563
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,839
and fifty six points in regulation. The game was played

564
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,400
at Idaho State, but it's one of the few games

565
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,240
where Portland State gave up what I would call an

566
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,519
excessive amount of points when you look at what they've

567
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:06,279
given up to the rest of the league. So it

568
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,559
could be a matchup thing. But you are turning around

569
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:12,799
and going on the road here to Portland State, just

570
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:17,039
it's hard to lay a batch of points with this

571
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:21,599
team simply because they don't score enough to get full separation.

572
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,839
You're asked to lay six and a half here. It's

573
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,880
not an incredibly large amount. They did win by that margin,

574
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,079
as you mentioned against Montana State the other day, without

575
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:33,400
their best player. But I do wonder, you know, the

576
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:39,440
dilemma becomes, is Idaho State just a good offensive matchup

577
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,400
against this defense or was that just a one off

578
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,720
way back towards the beginning of Big Sky season where

579
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,160
Portland State is settled in now and just not giving

580
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960
up anything to the good teams, to the good offensive

581
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,839
teams in the league. So for me, I think I

582
00:29:54,839 --> 00:29:59,880
would probably start by looking under as far as this

583
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:04,240
conference is concerned. Idaho State is a team I've looked

584
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:08,079
at a little bit toward overs, but mostly when we're

585
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:10,640
looking at this league, we're looking at like Sacramento State,

586
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,279
who we've talked about quite a bit. They've had this

587
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,319
tendency to go over. We're looking at Eastern Washington, we

588
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:19,920
talked about earlier in the year, Northern Colorado, et cetera.

589
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,440
A lot of over teams because that's generally what I

590
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,279
like to play. But if I were going to start here,

591
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:27,880
I think maybe you have to look over. Portland State

592
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,279
probably doesn't give up seventy eight to this team again today,

593
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:36,279
So for Garth, I would say, if the number is

594
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,720
low by modern day standards, one thirty seven and a half,

595
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:43,160
one thirty eight, and sometimes it's difficult to keep these

596
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,079
games under so with the first result, I somewhat shy away,

597
00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:50,839
But I do think Portland State is seven points better

598
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:53,240
than Idaho State at this point in time. Portland State

599
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,799
just does every single thing well out of the defensive end,

600
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:58,240
and nobody's been able to rattle them for about h

601
00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:01,319
street games now, So that would probably be my best

602
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:05,160
look Portland State here. Who has a chance. Honestly, I

603
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,720
don't think they will because I think Montana is better,

604
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,720
but they do have a chance to win this league

605
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:12,920
this year. They're one of the top contenders when Big

606
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,240
Sky Tournament time comes around.

607
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, you pointed out the first meeting.

608
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, there was twenty four extra points in that

609
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,319
in that meeting because it went into overtime. So the

610
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,960
interesting things for me like about the first meeting, right,

611
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,759
Idaho State, I believe, was up big in the second

612
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:32,119
half at one point, took a kind of a big

613
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,960
comeback by Portland State to four SOT and then they

614
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,720
go and win by six in overtime. So that's certainly

615
00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:41,759
encouraging if you like the Idaho State side. Is the

616
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:46,000
fact that like that first game, I mean, you could

617
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:49,319
make a pretty strong case that Idaho State should have won. Now,

618
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,720
what's not to like about the Idaho State side you

619
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,119
brought up is the travel you'll get in this league.

620
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,720
Sometimes every once in a while you get hit with

621
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,359
the double back, with the double road trip. Right where

622
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,480
you're going Thursday Saturday back to back, and then you

623
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,839
come back and you have to do Thursday Saturday.

624
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: Back to back again the following weekend.

625
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:13,079
Speaker 2: That's tough in this league because this this league covers

626
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:15,480
some ground, right, Like, I mean, it's not so much

627
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:19,759
the mileage travel. But these are not you know, Pocatello, Idaho,

628
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,720
like right like aoram Utah or wherever. I don't know

629
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,440
if it's orm it's the other one where where Weaver

630
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,839
State is Okay, the point is Flagstaff, Arizona.

631
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:33,559
Speaker 1: Flat.

632
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Flagstaff, Arizona where I was last year, you know

633
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:40,640
for a Northern Arizona game, all the way out to Sacramento, California. Like,

634
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,839
these are not Greeley North Greeley, Colorado. These are tough

635
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:48,000
places to get to. So having to play a fourth

636
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,640
straight road game, which is what Idaho State is being

637
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,079
asked to do here is not eat.

638
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:55,799
Speaker 1: I mean that's this would.

639
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: Be the probably the toughest spot for them on this

640
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,279
this sort of swing of their schedule. Right last week

641
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,079
they go to the Montanas. That's a tough trip, having

642
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:09,680
to go to Bozeman and then to uh to Montana

643
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,680
on the you know the on Saturday. This week they

644
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,640
go down to Utah to play Weaver. Now they got

645
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,119
to go to Portland State. That's a Saturday. That's a

646
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Saturday Monday. So they did give them the week in

647
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,400
between the trips, but still that's a tough trip. Saturday

648
00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:27,119
and then having to hang out Monday for this game.

649
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,920
Four straight road greames, So that's tough for Idaho State.

650
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:34,440
But I still, I still think Portland State might be

651
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,480
a tad just like inflated on the number.

652
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,079
Speaker 1: Right, they had such a hot start to league play.

653
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: I'm kicking myself or not playing the Montana game because

654
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,720
it made it made like so much sense to fade

655
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,680
Portland State in that spot, and then over the weekend

656
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,039
they benefit, Uh, they benefit by Montana State not having

657
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:54,000
one of their top players. I think if Montana States

658
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,200
have full strength right there, maybe Portland State struggles again

659
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,079
in that game. And then on top of that, they

660
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:03,440
weren't like overly impressive in that win. So I want,

661
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,240
I want to like the points here with Idaho State,

662
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,199
but I don't know if I can get there with

663
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,320
the fact that they know they're gonna be playing their

664
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,320
four straight road game. It's the back end of like

665
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,960
a road back to back, and like you said, Rob,

666
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,119
if they if the Portland State defense, which has been

667
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,239
so so good, can clamp down, they might be able

668
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,239
to create some some distance on their home floor in

669
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:24,639
this game.

670
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: So it's a tough one.

671
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: May I maybe I maybe lean under just because I

672
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,320
think that that that that first game got out of

673
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,920
control and then had five extra minutes and twenty four

674
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,599
extra points tacked on to uh to the score.

675
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,599
Speaker 1: So maybe an underlean for me there.

676
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, real quick promo double firepower CBB package myself and Rob.

677
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,320
We had a really good weekend Rob promo to at

678
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,239
the top. That's up on our page. Uh, I'm sure

679
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,920
we'll each have something for tonight. It's uh, it's a

680
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,079
light slate, but there's a lot of good games and

681
00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:00,039
uh we're gonna keep rolling right through. Uh. We we

682
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:04,159
have a big time back and forth going on in

683
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:08,280
the chat about this next game. Not Nacha, I'm gonna

684
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,079
I'm gonna do it again.

685
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:10,559
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't even know why. I'm gonna try

686
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:10,920
to say it.

687
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: But it's not your dogas, not your dogs by you

688
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:16,519
spell it out for me phonetically in the chat. Please,

689
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,079
I know you can do that. It's na Goadjas Texas.

690
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,719
The point is McNee State is going to hit the road, Rob.

691
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,079
And if you remember, we talked about mcneice's very first

692
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,519
conference road game in detail on this show, and in

693
00:35:33,559 --> 00:35:37,360
that game, I gave out increnit word and before that game,

694
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:41,039
I said, I am going to make a conscious effort

695
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:46,480
to fade McNeice on the road in conference play when

696
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,840
they play the better teams in this league. Okay, and

697
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,760
I want to update what has happened since that game.

698
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,559
So we hit outright with increnit word in that first game, right,

699
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,119
they were like an eleven point underdog something like that,

700
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:03,480
and they won the game out right. We then cashed

701
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:06,559
against the spread the next time it came up with

702
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:10,039
Houston Baptist or Houston Houston Christian whatever the hell they

703
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,920
call it the school now right, I think this app

704
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,760
might still have them the wrong name, But anyway.

705
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,159
Speaker 1: That one covers.

706
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: And if you remember that game, they had McNeice on

707
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,960
the ropes as well. McNeice didn't really create that. That

708
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:26,000
ten point final was only created right at the end.

709
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,599
I mean, I mean, Houston Christian was never really you know,

710
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,440
never really worried about covering that game. McNeice then had

711
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,519
four straight home games, so the spot didn't come up

712
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:45,039
again until until mid January, and I kind of said,

713
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,239
you know what, I'm gonna throw these two out because

714
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,360
for me, I couldn't really tell if Grand Valley Rio

715
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Grand Valley and Texas A and i'm Corpus Christie were

716
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,679
in the top.

717
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,079
Speaker 1: Half of the league.

718
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,079
Speaker 2: I was like, these could do, could go either way,

719
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,320
so I'm going to talk these out, and it was

720
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,920
probably I saved myself Juice rob because ute Rio Grand

721
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,679
Valley actually beat McNeice and then mcneesse blew out A

722
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:11,800
and m Corpus Christie.

723
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't. I threw louis the Louisiana and

724
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,760
Lamar trip.

725
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: I kind of was like, I have those teams toward

726
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,559
the bottom of the league here a little bit, but

727
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:27,840
they actually both covered the number. So had I expanded

728
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,679
it to just fading mcneise on the road in league play,

729
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:34,559
the record would be, what did I just like five

730
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:37,199
and one right now? Because McNeice went on the road,

731
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,719
didn't cover against Southeast Louisiana and then they only beat

732
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,199
Lamar by one and they were a ten and a

733
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,840
half point road favorite in that game. Now, that's a

734
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,000
long winded intro to get to this game, but I

735
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:54,400
wanted to illustrate the point where after hearing me talk

736
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,320
that out, you think, oh Trigg, Steven f Austin's and

737
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,920
no brainer tonight, right Because they're they're arguably the best

738
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,880
team in this league. They're at home, they're coming in

739
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,719
nineteen and three.

740
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: They're awesome.

741
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: But Rob, this is what happens in sports betting, right,

742
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,519
Suddenly we're not getting McNeice with like an eight point cushion,

743
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,719
a ten point cushion, a twelve point cushion.

744
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:19,679
Speaker 1: Now he needs Steven F.

745
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: Austin pretty much to win this game, and that's where

746
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,480
I might have to back out of this strategy. So

747
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,840
I see you by you. I know he loves Steven F.

748
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,360
Austin tonight, and I see like the pro Steven F.

749
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,119
Austin sentiment here. But I don't know if I can

750
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:37,719
get around the fact that a few weeks ago, I

751
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,760
might I might have been getting six in this game.

752
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,360
I might have been getting six and a half maybe,

753
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,719
you know, maybe maybe between five and six. And now

754
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,159
suddenly I basically need Steven F. Austin to win this

755
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,599
game to cash. That's where I might have to back out.

756
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:54,800
So even though I see the merit of like this

757
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,480
is a really good team at home, McNeice has struggled

758
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,719
a ton on the road against the spread in play,

759
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,119
I don't know if I can get there with that number,

760
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,760
So I don't know, talk to me about this game,

761
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,880
and it helped me make sense of this one.

762
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: Well, let's go back to the first meeting they played already,

763
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,159
Like you say, that game was in McNee sixty six

764
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,360
sixty four McNee Stephen at Boston hangs in there the

765
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,320
whole way, and here's for by you and maybe he

766
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,280
could help here. To me, the head scratching part of

767
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,119
this particular line movement in this game was affected to

768
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:33,360
total win up. There's not one single thing inside conference

769
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,719
play the south Land that Steven F. Austin doesn't do

770
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,119
better than just about everybody in this league. The numbers

771
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:42,519
of you know, the number one appears next to their

772
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:49,559
name in multiple categories. Defensively here where McNeice block shot

773
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:56,719
team probably covers up some form of defensive weakness at times.

774
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,159
But I would say that I'm on board with Steven

775
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:03,480
at Boston here. I mean, it's just been an incredible

776
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:06,800
run for them. Back when we were talking about McNee Adam,

777
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,719
I think BP was even still on the show and

778
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,440
we were trying to figure out who's going to be

779
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,199
any good in this league aside from McNeice, And I

780
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,559
don't know that at that time, we actually put Steven

781
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:21,239
at Boston on the pedestal that they should be put

782
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,880
on now to go to McNeice to come within two.

783
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:28,639
They got beat up on the free throw line in

784
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:30,320
that game. And when I say beat up, it's just

785
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,159
because they had twice as many free throw attempts against them,

786
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:37,559
thirteen for McNeice only seven free throws for Steven at Boston.

787
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:39,320
And what's interesting in that game is McNeice is the

788
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,480
best free throw shoot three throw shooting team in the league,

789
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:45,119
and they only made eight of thirteen in that game,

790
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:46,920
so they probably could have won by a couple extra

791
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,440
in that contest. MacNeice, which is really good at turning

792
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,599
people over, turned Steven at Boston over fifteen times as

793
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:57,559
opposed to seven. They're going to have to overcome those

794
00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,119
deficiencies here, but the home floor makes up for or

795
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,440
a lot. McNeice. Do you treat the Saturday game against

796
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,000
Lamar where they snuck by sixty forty sixty three as

797
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:11,880
a look ahead to this showdown or do you treat

798
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,519
it as you know, somebody's gonna catch them out right

799
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:19,079
here again? And whichever way you look at it. Twenty

800
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,519
twenty hindsight is always the best way to find things out.

801
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,079
But I think Stephen F. Austin is the is the

802
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:29,239
side here at home taking a point and a half

803
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,440
and one more time. I'll just say what I'm really

804
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,760
confused about here is why this total goes up to

805
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,159
one forty two and a half. When McNeese State defensive

806
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,159
average time of possession defensively is the slowest in the country.

807
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:46,719
In other words, you come down and you try to

808
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,760
set up offense against McNeice, that shot clock's gonna run

809
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,920
because you're not getting an immediate shot. You're getting the

810
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,000
slowest possession time in the country, and with Steven F.

811
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:00,480
Austin you're getting the three hundred and thirty fifth lowest.

812
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:06,320
So both lockdown half court defenses. Neither side really pushes pace.

813
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,320
You get caught in one of these grinders like sixty

814
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,079
six sixty four that we saw earlier. What could hurt

815
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,440
you is overtime if you're playing under But I don't

816
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,360
know that you can walk to the window and say, man,

817
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,760
I'm so scared of overtime. I can't bet. This game

818
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,519
and a half seems awfully high to me. So in

819
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:26,440
this contest, I think I would play under and I'd

820
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,039
look to Stephen F. Boston to avenge what happened earlier.

821
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,559
I think at this point in time they probably can't.

822
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,480
And real quick, Adam, the one thing that you said

823
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,599
earlier triggered thought. You said that McNee State is now

824
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,360
in a price range where all we're asking to do

825
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,199
is win the game. And we just saw this Friday.

826
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,639
We talked about it with Michigan, Michigan State, Michigan. Oh,

827
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:51,360
they have to lay double digits every night, they can't cover.

828
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,960
They'rerow and seven. It gets a spread. But then when

829
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,960
only asked to lay one and a half and win

830
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
a game, guess what happened. They won the game pretty

831
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,280
convincingly on the road in a venue that's gonna be

832
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,239
tougher than what Steven F. Austin is gonna present. I

833
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,239
venture to say Bresley Center is a tougher place to play,

834
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:11,119
as tough as it might be playing Steven F. Austin

835
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:11,920
not the same.

836
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen, I think it'll be a phenomenal crowd tonight.

837
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,119
It's gonna it's gonna be a great atmosphere. Rob, I'm

838
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,760
with you. I like the under here. I don't really

839
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,800
want to like have to pick between McNeice being in

840
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,599
like a good value spot and like you know, showing

841
00:43:29,679 --> 00:43:32,800
up here and Steven F. Austin and like the crazy

842
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,119
like home crowd with the great home record. I don't

843
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,480
really want to want to pick between those two things.

844
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,639
But the undermakes so much sense. We saw the first meeting.

845
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:44,880
It was cagey. They McNeice did as good of a

846
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,280
job on Kean Thompson as anyone has done this year, really,

847
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,760
and if you look at at Steven F. Austin's games,

848
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,480
I mean Keon Thompson is, I mean, he is the

849
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,440
offense for this team. He's he's what makes the offense go.

850
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,599
The last few games fifty ten points, twenty seven, twenty six,

851
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,519
twenty fifteen, fifteen sixteen, the last time he didn't score

852
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:09,360
double digits in the game, McNee state eight points, three

853
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,800
of ten shooting. They had him locked up all night

854
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,039
in that game. And so if they could do that

855
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:17,639
good of a job on him here, which I don't

856
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:19,880
see why they wouldn't be able to at least sort

857
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,159
of like roll out a similar game plan make someone

858
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:25,119
else beat them. Like I don't really want any part

859
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:28,320
of Steven F. Austin especially now one and a half.

860
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,239
That's a I think that you'd be taking a bad number.

861
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:35,599
I think you'd be taking a bad number there. I

862
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:37,760
do lean toward the under that that's what I think.

863
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:39,800
Under is probably the way I would look there.

864
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,599
Speaker 1: I actually rob.

865
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: I think I gave out the under in the first

866
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,119
meeting when those two teams played, and it went under

867
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,079
by a mile, So I'll just call it for a

868
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:51,039
similar game. Someone says, trigger, who did your makeup this morning?

869
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,800
That's probably the lighting here I am in. I've got

870
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,719
these like little lights. I wonder if I have the

871
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,000
setting wrong. Do you want me more tan? Are you

872
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:05,840
looking for the tan setting? Should we go in the hybrid?

873
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

874
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: I think it's probably the lighting here. If I look

875
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,639
a little flush, it's because I don't. I haven't slept much.

876
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:17,400
If you if you haven't been following along, I've been

877
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,840
just driving around the Midwest and now I'm trying to

878
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,159
make my way back back home. So uh but yeah,

879
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:26,480
we ran it back with the white gummy Bear rain

880
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,679
after a three and oh day yesterday I had to

881
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:30,760
come back with the same energy drink.

882
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,639
Speaker 1: So Ba Bets says, do you ever sleep?

883
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: Was sleep?

884
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,639
Speaker 2: In May right like what Rothstein says, it's Uh, it's

885
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,000
we're in conference play right now. Sleep can wait. We

886
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,159
we'll sleep when the season, sleep when the season is over.

887
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,880
By you says the bang energy is going to hit

888
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:46,199
the skin.

889
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

890
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: I've I've worked my way through most of this can

891
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,360
it hasn't really hidden yet, So purple haze bang, I

892
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,960
don't know. I'm not a big grape guy, so ba bets.

893
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,360
I'll have to I'll tell you what once. Uh, I'm

894
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,199
going to ride the white gummy bear out as long

895
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,920
as this wind streak will allow. But once I have

896
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,519
to switch it up, I'll try the purple haze bang.

897
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone's like to my kidneys?

898
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I don't I don't drink so like I'm

899
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:14,800
hoping that the damage, like you know, some people do

900
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,599
damage to their body with alcohol. Maybe i'll you know,

901
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,280
I'm getting a little bit back there, so you know whatever.

902
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: Hopefully the energy drinks won't won't kill me, but we'll

903
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:25,639
we'll see.

904
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: Uh that Camsa is that that that energy drink is

905
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,840
not from the BUCkies concourse walk. It's from down the street.

906
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,400
But that was uh, yeah, Rob, have you been to

907
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,280
a BUCkies. Have you been to BUCkies yet?

908
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: I've never been in a Buckiest. Rob.

909
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,039
Speaker 2: This this put BUCkies puts wa in sheets and a

910
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,440
body bag. Instantly, it's it's one of the most incredible

911
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,360
places I've ever seen.

912
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable.

913
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: All right, back to the games tonight, Rob. You know

914
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,159
it's we got about thirteen minutes left. We're going to

915
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,000
team or today. Do you have any idea where you

916
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,280
want to go with the parlay?

917
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so. I'm gonna just I'm gonna roll this

918
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,679
way out. And when I came on the show, my

919
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,760
every intention was to go ahead and play Betune, Cookman,

920
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,960
Alabama A and m over the total of one and

921
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,800
a half. But we talked about the game already and

922
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,920
the more I keep doing little investigation here the one

923
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,679
thing that's somewhat of concern, and but I got ripped

924
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:35,679
in the comments section one day we're talking about travel situations.

925
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,199
Somebody was coming at me for you know, it's only

926
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480
an inch of eyes and everybody's going to the gaming.

927
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,719
I think when we talk about travel, we're not talking about.

928
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,119
Speaker 1: I defended you there, Rob.

929
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,599
Speaker 2: They were trying to say that, like the ice you

930
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,559
were like, all the ice isn't gonna matter.

931
00:47:50,599 --> 00:47:52,079
Speaker 1: They're like, you don't know what an engine of ice does?

932
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:53,760
And I said, my sister went to Duke.

933
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: These the you would have to have the world would

934
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,599
have to be ending for that building to not be

935
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,320
completely packed for a Duke game.

936
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: So I had your back there, Rob.

937
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:06,679
Speaker 3: Sorry, And even for that, I think when I talk

938
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,800
about it in those in that context, it's always about

939
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,440
does the team have difficulty flight wise etc. Getting to

940
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,519
the venue? Not the fans and how you know what

941
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:18,800
we put chains on our tires. I mean, I grew up.

942
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:24,800
I know what it is. Syracuse travel to Chapel Hill

943
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,559
tonight probably got a little bit dicey along the way.

944
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:30,920
I mean, they've read a couple of reports, but everything

945
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,199
seems to be aoka. And the more I think this

946
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,360
game threw, the more I think this underdog side Syracuse

947
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,679
getting above their team total tonight is the right way

948
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,559
to go. It's priced so low seventy two and a half.

949
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,800
Every team except one has gotten to seventy three against

950
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,960
UNC and league play, and so why not Syracuse. They've

951
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,360
got certainly got enough scoring. I don't expect to have

952
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,039
the same shooting performance that they had against Notre Dame

953
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,920
on Saturday, obviously, but I do think there's just too

954
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,880
many components on that Syracuse team and they could get

955
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,280
blown out here at him This final could be ninety

956
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,840
five seventy four, and I could care less if they

957
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,840
get over seventy two and a half points here. I

958
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,039
just think that's the magic number. Like I say, UNC

959
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,679
has been allowing it because they've just been scoring and

960
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,199
either winning by wide margin or winning high scoring close

961
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,519
games or losing high scoring close games. And the other

962
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:40,079
thing I'll add to it is that I know it's

963
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:44,239
six days away, but Duke is on deck for UNC,

964
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:47,679
and the UNC Duke look ahead is always a factor

965
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,519
no matter what. So for me, I'm not gonna worry

966
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,519
about whether or not Syracuse can contend within eleven and

967
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,719
a half points. But I do think they can get

968
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,639
to seventy three here, So that'll be my leg of

969
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:03,599
the part. Like Syracuse team total over seventy two and

970
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:06,320
a half, Yeah.

971
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: I co sign that. I think I think C's is

972
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,800
going to hang around.

973
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,079
Speaker 2: And I think if you, if you LIKEQS, that you're

974
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:16,639
probably gonna need that many to cover anyway, So I'm

975
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:19,719
with you there. I am going to go well in

976
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,559
the meantime before we move on, did you did you

977
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,760
have something to say about Pathune Cookman or were you

978
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,239
not going to go to that game because I kind

979
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,039
of cut you off there.

980
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, real quick, it still could make the card.

981
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,679
I'm gonna dig just a little bit deeper. But Reggie,

982
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,719
theus's team is certainly they're the class of the league

983
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,360
right now, especially on the defensive end, which wouldn't correlate

984
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,039
to playing a game over. However, Alabama A and M

985
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:46,880
has been such a good, efficient offensive team, and on

986
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,559
their home floor, you always expect a little more out

987
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:51,480
of them. I think they can give them half a

988
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:54,480
go here. I don't know that they'll stick within the number.

989
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:58,639
It's been bet really heavily toward the Pethune Cookman's side

990
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,280
so far. This morning, I think we saw a rise

991
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,159
from one and a half to maybe four, and rightfully so,

992
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,320
because Bethune Cookman has been that good. Last Monday, I

993
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,440
went with their team total over got there with ease.

994
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,880
I think they can score on anybody in this league.

995
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,159
So if I start with that, if I start with

996
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,920
say seventy eight out of it doing Cookman, can I

997
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960
get the rest. Can I get you sixty five out

998
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,000
of the other side. I don't know why you can't.

999
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,719
With Alabama A and M as good as Cookman's numbers

1000
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,239
are defensively inside this league, and everything they did in

1001
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,320
the non con prep them like it does so often

1002
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,840
for Southland and Swack teams for this, which I should

1003
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,320
put miak in there as well. The teams that play

1004
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,159
the really really tough paydays to get ready for a

1005
00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:47,440
conference season. I think Alabama A and M, having the

1006
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,159
home floor here and being as good as they've been

1007
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:52,599
efficiency wise on their home floor, is good enough to

1008
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,079
probably find their way to sixty eight sixty nine. When

1009
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,639
I put it into proper context like that, mathematically, it

1010
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,400
just seems like an over game to me. So still

1011
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,199
may make the card, Adam go and check it to

1012
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,559
a couple other things. But that was a consideration of

1013
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:10,079
mind for those in the chat that you know like

1014
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:13,960
to take. Sometimes I drop more than one thought here

1015
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,440
when it comes to parlay time, if you're taking note

1016
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:18,920
of them. That was one that I had here today.

1017
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:23,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been You've very much nailed the the Thune

1018
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:25,719
Cookman thing. If you go back to earlier in the year,

1019
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,119
I said, man, like they're you know, they definitely have

1020
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,760
probably the best players, but I felt like the top

1021
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,159
half of that Swack was very strong, very like evenly matched.

1022
00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:37,400
And I remember you kind of saying like, nah, this

1023
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:41,440
the Thune Cookman team's like marginally better from a talent standpoint,

1024
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,960
and it's been like completely correct. They've they've stood out

1025
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,320
their seven to one league play and would would Doc

1026
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,079
Bradley back. I don't even know that the books have

1027
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,760
fully like adjusted to like how much how good this

1028
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,880
team is with him back, because it's like, you know,

1029
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,960
I mean something like that kind of gets lost in

1030
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,360
the shuffle. That's not a huge name, he was, he

1031
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,079
just came from another SWACK team last year. But yeah,

1032
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:08,719
seven and one in league play. It almost looks when

1033
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,559
I watched Cookman, it almost looks they can name like

1034
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,840
they can name their score in a lot of these games.

1035
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:17,119
And it's like, you know, the one game we were

1036
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:19,320
both on where you you ended up getting your team

1037
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,360
total but I failed to cover by like a point

1038
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,519
or two, they kind of went to sleep, like he

1039
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,079
put some of the backups in that. It was the

1040
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:28,719
Alcorn State game, so like they only won that game

1041
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,119
by eleven, but they were so much more dominant than that.

1042
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:33,760
And then you know, last time out though against like

1043
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,079
an Alabama State, you could see that they wanted to

1044
00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:38,760
make a point, right that was a because Alabama State

1045
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,280
won this league last year. So that was a game

1046
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,519
where you could see, like, you know, Cookman really wanted

1047
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:45,440
to make a point, and they go out and win

1048
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,679
the game on the road and win it easily. I

1049
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:50,760
just there's no way I would bet against them at

1050
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,079
this point in this league, like unless it was like

1051
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:56,239
you were getting a great number to do.

1052
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,559
Speaker 1: So They're just they're a lot better than the rest

1053
00:53:58,559 --> 00:53:59,159
of these teams.

1054
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:01,679
Speaker 2: So anything pro Cookman, I think I can get down

1055
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,400
with here, all right, Rob, I think I know where

1056
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,639
I'm gonna go here. We got National TV tonight for

1057
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:14,119
the Patriot League, and for a league that's in my backyard,

1058
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:16,440
I gotta be honest, I have not done much with

1059
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:19,400
this league this year. I'm usually very very involved in

1060
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,000
the Patriot League. This is a league I typically bet

1061
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,639
a ton I haven't bet at much this year because

1062
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:27,119
I think all of these teams are awful. Like I

1063
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:30,559
think this is like as as I think the Patriot

1064
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:34,119
League is as bad as it's been I guess, like

1065
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,320
from a talent perspective and the fact that a lot

1066
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,719
of these teams just aren't very good basketball teams. Like

1067
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,119
that's why I haven't been involved with the Patriot League much. Now,

1068
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,800
Navy is having a really nice year. They're nine and one,

1069
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,840
but the books have known this about Navy since the

1070
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,719
beginning of the season. There really hasn't been you haven't

1071
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,159
really gotten much value trying to bet on Navy. The

1072
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,000
problem is I haven't felt I haven't felt like I

1073
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,199
wanted to bet against them, And it's so it's like,

1074
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:00,719
you know what I mean, it's been hard for me

1075
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,280
to find good spots to get involved in this league.

1076
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,639
That being said, I think we have a situation here

1077
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,920
where I am willing to buy low on a team

1078
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,880
that I thought was going to be the team pressing

1079
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,519
Navy at the top of this league this year, and

1080
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:17,679
that's Boston University. If you go back to the beginning

1081
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,239
of the season, we did a show and I said,

1082
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,559
the Patriot League is a three horse race this year.

1083
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:24,079
It's gonna be Navy, it's gonna be Colgate, it's gonna

1084
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:26,320
be Boston. You the rest of these teams are awful.

1085
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:31,119
I've nailed two of the three components this league is

1086
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,760
Navy and it's Colgate. No one else is did no

1087
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,400
one else is close to them right now. Navy nine

1088
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,480
and one, Coldgate seven and three. Yes, there's some parody

1089
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:42,320
and some of these other teams are in this in

1090
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,400
the middle, like Lee High got a nice win over

1091
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,719
Colgate over the weekend. But I'm telling you right now,

1092
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,960
those two, it's Navy, it's Colgate.

1093
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: It's everyone else.

1094
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:54,079
Speaker 2: The reason Boston you is not in that group is

1095
00:55:54,119 --> 00:55:57,360
they kind of have been decimated by injury this year.

1096
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,440
Uh they've been they just haven't had the roster and

1097
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,599
the group of guys that was that they thought they

1098
00:56:05,599 --> 00:56:07,239
were going to have, which is when when you when

1099
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,480
I had them in the top three, Ben Roy was

1100
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,199
was playing a part in this team. Landrum, I think

1101
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,039
is the other guy I'm the name is escaping me,

1102
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,679
Cairo and Alexander. These are all guys that were supposed

1103
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,480
to be like playing big parts for this team this

1104
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:26,920
year and really haven't played all season. But now as

1105
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,239
we talk about injuries, right, like at some point, you

1106
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,400
know those guys, you have to just forget about them.

1107
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,800
And with b U, right now they're three and seven.

1108
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,119
They're never there. They're never gonna be the team they

1109
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:42,639
were supposed to be pre all these injuries happening. But

1110
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,119
I still think they're better than being the worst team

1111
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:49,000
in the league. And that's what this matchup is essentially about.

1112
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:49,519
Speaker 1: Right here.

1113
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: It's the two worst teams in the league, Boston University

1114
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,079
Holy Cross. Both of these teams at three and seven,

1115
00:56:55,199 --> 00:56:57,920
they're tied for last place in the league. All I'm saying, Robin,

1116
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,920
is I still think the Boston Universe is like at

1117
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,920
least a middle of the pack team. With all the

1118
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,880
injuries in this league. They've had some tough luck losses

1119
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:09,320
overtime over the week in a buck. Now they had

1120
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,960
a game against American they let slip away earlier this year,

1121
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:16,199
So I am going to buy low going forward on

1122
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,039
Boston University. I felt like they could have and should

1123
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:20,039
have won over the weekend.

1124
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:22,679
Speaker 1: They didn't. Now they have an easier matchup.

1125
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,679
Speaker 2: It's a road game, but it's only holy Cross, it's

1126
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,199
right down the street, and this moved a little bit,

1127
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:29,639
So I'm just gonna go Boston University money line here.

1128
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,039
I just I still think they're better and I think

1129
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,400
this could be the turning point that at least gets

1130
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,159
them like back middle of the pack by the end

1131
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:38,000
of conference play.

1132
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: So I'll go with the Terriers here on the money line.

1133
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had luck with them a couple of weeks

1134
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,719
ago with a team total that got the overtime against

1135
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,159
Lafayette and they won seventy seven to seventy three.

1136
00:57:51,239 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: So go be you, that's right. That is the Uh

1137
00:57:57,239 --> 00:57:57,679
some great.

1138
00:57:57,719 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: My sister was went to undergrad at b and then

1139
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,440
she went to Duke and she was an athlete at

1140
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,159
Boston University, so I you know, she knew some of

1141
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:10,039
the players and that was man those BU teams when

1142
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:12,800
she was there was Pat Chambers as the head coach,

1143
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:17,760
and but uh is it John Holland like one of

1144
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,679
the better players they've ever had at the school. They

1145
00:58:19,679 --> 00:58:23,039
went to the NCAA Tournament, lost a game to Kansas.

1146
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:25,039
I believe there were sixteen seed. But yeah, b you,

1147
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,480
I don't really think they've really been back since. And

1148
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,719
it's it's too bad because this was a team I

1149
00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:32,880
thought this was this was the year BU gets back

1150
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,320
in the NCAA Tournament, and the injuries have just straight

1151
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,400
up let them down. But like I said, I think

1152
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,880
this is the I think this is the time you

1153
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,960
buy this team. The pendulum has swung way too far.

1154
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,480
They're not the worst team in the league. I can't

1155
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:47,119
see them being at the bottom of these standings. So

1156
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,400
Boston University, we'll call it minus one fifty. That number

1157
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,760
that that minus one was gone pretty quick. So Boston

1158
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,440
University minus one fifty will be my leg of the parlay.

1159
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,639
And then Rob Bino's going with the Syracuse team total

1160
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:03,320
over seventy two and a half. Little tea to two

1161
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,840
teamer for you on Monday. Let's see if we can,

1162
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,079
you know, run these up this week and get back

1163
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:10,199
in the plus for the parley of the day. For

1164
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,480
anything Rob and I play, that's going to be available

1165
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:16,000
on wager talk dot com on the double the Firepower

1166
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:18,880
CBB package, all of my plays, all of Rob's plays.

1167
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,880
If you grabbed it over the weekend, you probably did

1168
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,000
pretty good because I think we've both had a pretty

1169
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,760
solid weekend.

1170
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:26,519
Speaker 1: I will be back home.

1171
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: By the time we do this show tomorrow morning, so

1172
00:59:28,639 --> 00:59:31,320
kind of looking forward to that. Even though the the

1173
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,519
hotel backdrop was better to me today than it was

1174
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,599
on Saturday when I had the bed in the background, So.

1175
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back.

1176
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: Enjoy the hoops tonight, Let's cash some tickets and we

1177
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,480
will see you guys tomorrow ten am Eastern