WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:03.000 Welcome Friends. 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:20.039 Podcast, Jacky, Welcome to Movie Film. It's episode three forty four. 3 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:21.879 My name is Zaki is Sign. I'm here with Brian Hall. 4 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:23.120 Hey. How's it going, Zachi? 5 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:26.519 Hey, hanging in there. I am very much looking forward 6 00:00:26.519 --> 00:00:27.920 to the conversation we're about to have. 7 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:32.719 Me too, Me too. We've been waiting decades to have 8 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:33.560 this conversation. 9 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:38.039 It feels like, I dare say, nearly forty years. Yeah, right, 10 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:41.280 but we'll get we'll talk about that in just second. 11 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.119 We got more, we got we got more pressing stuff 12 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:47.600 in in the in the front term, like like your 13 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:49.439 continued journey through Widows Bay. 14 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:54.079 Yeah, I mentioned that I am enjoying Widow's Bay this. 15 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:57.640 Since since the last time we talked to now, I 16 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.159 feel like this show has just like taken over social media? 17 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:00.640 Has it? 18 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:01.000 Really? 19 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:01.359 So? 20 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.679 You kind? I feel like you got in on the 21 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:04.359 front end here? 22 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:06.519 Okay, Well good. I'm glad that I brought it up 23 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:09.200 when I did, because I have had people reach out 24 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:11.599 to me and say that they started it and they 25 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:16.159 are also enjoying it. But it's this is such an 26 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:18.840 interesting show, and for people who don't remember what I'm 27 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.640 talking about, Widdows Bay is an Apple TV Plus series 28 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:25.920 starring Matthew Reese, and the log line on IMDb is 29 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.319 a skeptical mayor leads the superstitious residence of a cursed 30 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.799 New England island. And a lot of times when you 31 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.640 have these streaming series, they are one story that's introduced 32 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.599 in the pilot and that's the whole thread right for 33 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:44.400 the for like ten episodes, and sometimes it can feel 34 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.879 like a little stretched out. And when I started this, 35 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:50.200 they're spooky, mysterious things happening on this island, and it 36 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:52.719 was one specific sort of thing, like maybe a haunted 37 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:54.840 fog that was rolling into town in the pilot, and 38 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:56.680 I was like, you know, I'm enjoying this, but I'm 39 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:58.519 not sure I want to watch ten episodes about a 40 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:03.239 haunted fog. And to my delight, every episode is a 41 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:10.639 different horror trope, right, there is a thread that goes 42 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:14.000 through all of them, with the mayor and all the characters. 43 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.479 It's not an anthology series, but I just love that 44 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.439 each episode you don't exactly know what trope they're going 45 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:23.479 to play with, and when I say play, I mean 46 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:29.879 exactly that, Like they there are legitimate scares and spookiness 47 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.759 and things happening in this but it is very playful 48 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:38.000 at the same time. It has this really not muted 49 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:41.080 but it's not an out and out comedy, but there 50 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.439 are just big comedic moments that stem naturally from what's 51 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.039 happening in each show and from the characters and what 52 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:50.280 the characters are like, and it just feels like this 53 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:54.039 tightrope of tone that they're walking. At the beginning, I 54 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:56.439 was almost nervous starting each new episode because I was like, man, 55 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:59.120 they've just nailed this every episode and I'm like afraid 56 00:02:59.159 --> 00:03:01.439 they're going to fall off now, you know. Or even 57 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:02.960 start an episode, I'm like, oh, I don't know if 58 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:04.560 I'm gonna be interested in this, And then by the 59 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.639 end I'm always like it shows. It just keeps getting 60 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:11.159 better and better. And I had that experience even last 61 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:17.000 night where I was like, oh, interesting, I Well, it's 62 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:18.840 so hard because I don't want to spoil what these 63 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:23.479 things are, because the fun is discovering what it is 64 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.280 and how they play with that thing. But I will 65 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:31.000 say there's an episode involving like a boat and having 66 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:34.280 to go out a certain distance in the water with 67 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:36.960 a certain person. I'll say that for anyone who knows 68 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:40.560 what I'm talking about. I was like, this is so 69 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:46.039 my jam, Like this is so fun and funny and 70 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:52.520 scary and weird and like creepy. It's just And then 71 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.080 I watched the most recent one, which was a little 72 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.520 bit of a Halloween the movie Halloween sort of riff, 73 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.800 and what made it so fun was you've got these 74 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.319 trophy sort of things happening, of course, but it's through 75 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.240 the lens of this really unique character on the show 76 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:12.800 named Patricia played by Kato Flynn, who is just a delight, 77 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.199 just a delight to watch every week. And I just 78 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:18.399 I bust it out laughing like twice. But that's what 79 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:22.040 it is. It's not a comedy. It just it lures 80 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.120 you in and you're hoping that everything works out and 81 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:27.279 you're also leaning forward but a little scared by certain 82 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.160 sorts of things. But then they'll just hit you with 83 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:33.079 these like unexpected moments that just make you, you know, 84 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.240 belly laugh. So anyway, I just wanted to shout it 85 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.839 out again to the people who did start watching it 86 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:42.959 and are enjoying it hi, and for the people who 87 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.600 haven't yet, I just I recommend this. I mean again, 88 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.079 it's it's spooky. I wouldn't. It's not so far as 89 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:50.439 like like some R rated horror thing. I would say 90 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.319 it's sort of like a hard PG thirteen y sort 91 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:57.759 of level of scary, And that still might not be 92 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.639 some people's thing, But for people who think that sounds 93 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:03.879 interesting and kind of fun and intriguing, I would say, 94 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:05.639 definitely check it out on Apple TV Plus. 95 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.439 Well, there we go, your check is in the mail. 96 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.199 I feel like you're single handedly driving all the traffic. 97 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:19.240 Oh well, you know, I think that's probably true. I'm 98 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:20.000 not going to verify. 99 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:24.319 One thing I've seen a lot of is people suddenly 100 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:28.680 discovering what a great actor Stephen Root is. Yeah, I mean, 101 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.600 and I'm like, yeah, no, shit. 102 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.879 Yeah, no, he's He's been reliable for as long as 103 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.720 I can remember. I mean, he's even reliable. Is underselling it? 104 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:40.560 I mean he he's just the secret sauce in so 105 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.680 many things, right, that's right. Although I will say that 106 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.199 I think the first time I ever saw him was 107 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:46.319 probably Office Space. 108 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.399 Yeah, that would have been for you, right. I saw 109 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:56.839 him as the boss on news radio Oh okay, right, 110 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.120 which was on at roughly the same time he was 111 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:02.399 in Office Space. That alone as a testament to his 112 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.480 you know, ability to go from from the big boss 113 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:12.120 to the lowest. Yeah, a cubicle jockey, you know, yeah, 114 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.199 my steepler, that's right. 115 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.759 Yeah, you know. One of the things I will mention 116 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.519 just because I'd kind of forgot about this. But I 117 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.240 have a friend works over at Paramount, and so occasionally 118 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:28.399 they'll do these events. They'll do flashback screenings, and this 119 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.639 past weekend they showed Ferris Bueler's Day Off, and I 120 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:35.000 mention it because I just about a month ago, I 121 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:36.839 had just seen it, right, I just seen it the 122 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.560 Regal by my house, which does flashback series. They showed 123 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.399 Ferris Bueler's Day Off, and I was talking about it 124 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.360 on here and how much I loved it all over again, 125 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.319 and me and my neighbor, the person I was sitting 126 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.279 next to I didn't even know, we were both like, man, 127 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.360 that movie just completely holds up. What a blast all 128 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:53.879 these years later still and. 129 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:55.879 Then you watched it again this past week and you're like, 130 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:59.720 wait a minute, this sucks. You're just going back and forth. 131 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:02.560 Well, it was sort of a social thing. It was 132 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:04.519 going to be a group of friends, and I thought, well, 133 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:06.279 I want to be there. I want to hang out 134 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:06.720 with these. 135 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.319 Like an interactive screening people throwing spoons at the screen 136 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:09.959 and stuff like that. 137 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:14.759 Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, like at the room, yeah, 138 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:18.920 with the spoons and anyway, so I went, and it 139 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:22.240 was before I even get into watching it again, so close. 140 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.160 It was pretty amazing this thing they put on. As 141 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:27.839 soon as you walked into their theater. In the lobby, 142 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:33.040 they had this big counter basically circular counter that had 143 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.319 all this candy on it, like snickerspars em and M's 144 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:37.600 anything you could grab, and they've had that before. But 145 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:41.399 what was unique was they had like signage. They had 146 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:43.759 you know, Ferris Bueller's Day Off the title and quotes 147 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:46.959 from it, like printed onto this counter. And I was like, wow, 148 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.079 that's kind of amazing. And then as you walked in deeper, 149 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.399 they had all these old tube televisions stacked into a 150 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:56.199 pyramid playing Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Wow, And I was 151 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.199 like wow. And then they had you know, popcorn and 152 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.319 sodas and things like that. But they also had a 153 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.360 hot dog kart and I was like, oh, cool, hot 154 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.480 dog all right, But I walked up and they were 155 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:09.920 Chicago style hot dogs, like legit and with the Vienna 156 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.920 beef dogs and everything, and I was like what, And 157 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.199 so I just I don't know who planned it. I mean, 158 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:17.720 obviously it costs some money and. 159 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:19.839 You're like, i'll have one, and then the guy who 160 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:25.519 gives it to you is Matthew Broderick, Yes, exactly, and 161 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.959 then you wake up because the things. 162 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:33.440 It does sound like it does. But I was just 163 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:37.000 like blown away by this mid afternoon flashback screen of 164 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.240 affairs Buller, like how much they'd put into it. So 165 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:42.360 I just for that alone, I was like, wow, cool. Anyways, 166 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.639 but then we sit down and I'm like, Okay, I've 167 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.039 just seen this, but you know I've seen this movie 168 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.720 one hundred times anyway, you know, And dude, I got 169 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:52.600 sucked right back in. I just I had to bring 170 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.080 that up to say, like, this is just one of 171 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.559 those for me, like sort of miracle movies where like 172 00:08:57.600 --> 00:09:02.000 you just don't tire of it, and it's just as funny. 173 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:04.200 I was still laughing when he's pretending to be sick 174 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:06.600 with his parents and you know, me, me, me, you know, 175 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:09.000 keep making all the funny noises when they're like checking 176 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.960 his temperature and all that. And and actually there was 177 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.840 a woman sitting next to me, who was laughing and gasping, 178 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.759 almost as if she had never seen it before. Wow, 179 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.759 And that was really fun because then in a way, 180 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:23.799 you're sort of experiencing it through her eyes a little bit, 181 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.519 and it's making like, oh, yeah, that is kind of funny. Here. 182 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:28.360 I haven't thought about this because I've seen it a 183 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:33.200 hundred times, but yeah, but anyway, yeah, just it's I 184 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.440 don't know, John Hughes just has that so many of 185 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:40.200 his movies they are so rewatchable. Yeah, you know, Home Alone. 186 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.639 I mean I've seen that movie countless times and I 187 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:45.080 can't wait to watch it again, you know, this year 188 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:47.679 later at Christmas time, and plain streams and automobiles and 189 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.000 I just I don't know it would be I don't 190 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.039 want to dig into it now, but like, what is that? 191 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.879 What is the secret sauce of that? Like why are 192 00:09:55.919 --> 00:10:02.240 they so easily rewatchable? You know? And something I've noticed 193 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.799 now just off the top of my head, I'm thinking planes, trains, 194 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:09.480 Ferris Bueller, Home Alone, just those three. There are a 195 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.559 lot of vignettes, right right, It's like a compelling character. 196 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:19.320 It's experiencing a series of things, and maybe there's something 197 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.320 to that, even it's like these little episodes they experience. 198 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.200 But what he gets right is that all those episodes 199 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:26.159 are very compelling. 200 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:33.360 Well, I think that the secret sauce is that they 201 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:40.840 are wholesome comedies that aren't afraid to have an edge. 202 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:42.759 Yeah, that's a great point, and. 203 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.000 Aren't afraid to show their heart. Right, So in other words, 204 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:53.200 you're like to me, planes, trains and automobiles. Part of 205 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:57.080 the reason it works is that you can have the 206 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:01.879 scene where Dell is in the car talking to his 207 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:06.120 who we don't realize his dead wife, mm hmm, right, 208 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.919 Like it's not afraid to put that in there too. 209 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.120 You're like, no, this is a comedy. People aren't gonna 210 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:11.840 be laughing, you know. 211 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:14.519 Yep, you know. 212 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:21.399 A Home Alone gives you the old Man Marley storyline. 213 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:23.200 Yes, yes, matters. 214 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.039 Ferris Bueller gives you the Cameron and his Dad story 215 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:29.120 and that's important, you know. 216 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.679 I completely agree, and funny enough, when I watched it 217 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.000 a month ago, I think I was just watching it, 218 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.039 like looking at it because I'd seen so many times 219 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:38.720 and I was enjoying it, and I was enjoying looking 220 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:40.919 at it on the big screen. Seeing Chicago. I will 221 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:44.759 never not marvel at that twist and shout parade sequence, 222 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:48.639 because when it ends, you have that wide shot where 223 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.320 it just the street just goes on and on and on, 224 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:55.919 and it is filled with people and life and activity, 225 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.080 and it's just I would probably put it in one 226 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.279 of my favorite shots of all time. It's just an 227 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.519 amazing sort of thing, right, like where it's not filled 228 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.840 in with volume or you know, effects or replicating people, 229 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.720 which is fine in certain uses these days, but like, 230 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.399 you know what I mean, it's just so alive, right, 231 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:21.360 And yeah, okay, So the what I was going to 232 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:24.200 say then is I was just enjoying it kind of 233 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.279 visually and laughing at it on a surface level. This time, 234 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.600 I really did track a lot with the emotions, more 235 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:35.960 than I have in years following his sister's arc, which 236 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:37.840 you know, like, oh yeah, he drives her crazy and 237 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:39.519 then by the end she learns the loosen up. It's like, no, 238 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.440 they do a good job of actually seeding why she 239 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:45.840 feels this way, right, and how it's kind of you know, 240 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.720 imposed on her a lot. And of course the Cameron 241 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:51.720 thing is like the big beating heart of the movie, 242 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:54.759 and I really tracked with that this whole time, and 243 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.120 it just resonated. You know, you can sort of watch 244 00:12:58.120 --> 00:12:59.720 a movie you've seen a million times for the first time. 245 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:01.960 I get and when you put all your attention on 246 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.399 it and let it, you know, dive into it, put 247 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:09.559 your phone away. Yeah, yeah, you know. But also I 248 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:11.279 think what I thought you were going to say, which 249 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:13.559 planes trains when you said in the car. There's that 250 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.679 scene where John Candy when they go between the two trucks, and. 251 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.279 First, well, I mean, that's obviously the most one of 252 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:23.000 the one of like my top five funniest scenes in 253 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:24.840 any movie ever, but you. 254 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:26.639 Know what's so funny about it? And it is hilarious. 255 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:30.519 But then for a split second, the two characters look 256 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.639 like skeletons with their clothes on, right, and then John 257 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.840 Canny looks like the devil, devil, and Steve Martin's looking 258 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.000 at him like, what have I done? How did I 259 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:43.320 get in the car with it? You know, the devil? 260 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.360 And then in Ferris Bueller, for some reason, there's this 261 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:51.440 magic in the air where every character is singing Donkashane 262 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:54.919 like there's a magical realism to it. And in Home 263 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:01.200 Alone there's the furnace. The furnace talks to heaven, right, 264 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.559 you know, like I like that he's willing to go 265 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:08.639 really silly like Looney Tunes, but he knows just how 266 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.919 far to go, not too far. And then to your point, 267 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.799 I think the real reason they ultimately stay with us 268 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.879 and we want to keep watching them is, Yes, we 269 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:20.919 enjoy all the fun, that's what gets us through the movie. 270 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:22.799 But the reason we want to watch it again is 271 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.159 to experience the feelings that he provides. 272 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.519 See what it sounds to me like you're saying is 273 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:31.919 you have got his moves all figured out and you 274 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.360 could do something comparable to any of John Hughes's best. 275 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.080 That's that's my takeaway from what you're saying. You're saying 276 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:42.200 I can do it as good or better as John 277 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:44.759 Hughes unquote Brian Holmes. 278 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:53.840 Right, yes, let it be said in June twenty twenty six. 279 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:58.960 But no, I immediately when you started saying that, the 280 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:01.919 first thing I thought was, well, I can have a steak, 281 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.519 and I can have you know, butter and you know 282 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:09.240 pastry dough and all that stuff, but I can't make 283 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.240 Gordon Ramsay's the beef Wellington, you know what I mean? 284 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.240 Like, now I want to see the Brian Hall shot 285 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.960 for shot remake the gus of Anne sant Psycho, if 286 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.360 you will, of Ferris Bueller. 287 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:25.120 That would be fascinate. That is one of those movies, 288 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.600 excuse me where I feel like I don't I don't 289 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.279 feel like you can remake that, you know, and I 290 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.080 know we've said that about a lot of movies and 291 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:36.080 then they've done it anyway, But like there is just 292 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:40.120 that movie is such lightning in a bottle from just 293 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.480 first of all, just Ferris. How do you cast Ferris 294 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:45.519 again and not want to punch that guy in the face? 295 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:49.080 You know what I mean? Like they calibrate for me. 296 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:51.799 I maybe some people they are annoyed by him, but 297 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.000 I just feel like Matthew Broderick. He is smug, but 298 00:15:56.159 --> 00:16:00.120 in this weird, charming way where you feel like you're 299 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.200 you're you enjoy being with him. 300 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.200 I mean, it's it's funny that you talk about. Uh, 301 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:09.559 you know, how do you not want to punch Ferris 302 00:16:09.559 --> 00:16:10.000 in the face? 303 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:10.200 Right? 304 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:17.519 Uh? Because of course they did attempt to recast Farris Bueller. Yes, yes, which, 305 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.919 by the way, funniest joke of all time would have 306 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:22.080 been if you went through that whole experience with the 307 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:24.360 with the hot dog and going through the tunnel, if 308 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:26.559 you will, to the theme park ride and then it's 309 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.639 just a marathon of Ferris Bueller the series, Right, I 310 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.600 think that would have been goddamn hilarious. But but that show, 311 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.120 to your point, like I happened to completely unconnected to this, 312 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.200 Like within the last six months, I saw a handful 313 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:46.080 of episodes, Oh really on on YouTube? Yeah, okay, and 314 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:52.240 it's it's funny because the Ferris Bueller the series Charlie 315 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.720 Schlatter played played Ferris and and no more punchable character 316 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.600 have I seen, you know, and I'm saying or not actor, 317 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.119 because I'm sure Charlie Schlader is a lovely human being. Yeah, right, right, right, 318 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:07.480 but the character he was given to play was absolutely insufferable. 319 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:09.759 And the fact that they hung the name Ferris Bueller 320 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.799 on it was like this added level of insult, you know, 321 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:17.319 and you I think you know this. It literally starts 322 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.079 with him saying, oh, that movie about my life is 323 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:24.160 all wrong, and then he pulls a standee of Ferris 324 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.319 Bueller up from the movie played by Matthew Brodrick out 325 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.079 of his closet and he's like, Matthew Broderick, come on, 326 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:31.880 And then he gets a chains on cuts it in half, 327 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:33.799 and I'm like, what are you guys stupid? You know, 328 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:36.799 I know, I know that's like the most famous beat. 329 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:40.400 But the show it's very because it premiered the same season, 330 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:42.519 maybe even the same week as Parker Lewis Can't Lose 331 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:46.759 on Fox, which that show was good, right, and that 332 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:47.920 was clearly a Ferris. 333 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:49.559 Bueller rip off totally. 334 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:53.160 But but you know, the show, it it had you know, 335 00:17:53.279 --> 00:18:01.119 Jennifer Aniston plays plays Genie, and Richard Riley is Rooney, 336 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:05.880 huh like, and you can see that, right, like you 337 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.240 can picture that. That's like the may for TV Ferris Bueller, 338 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:14.279 you know, yeah, yeah. But what I realized watching the 339 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:18.599 show is that there's a reason there wasn't a whole 340 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.240 Ferris Bueller's blank, Like, there wasn't a whole series of 341 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:26.480 those yes, because we're meant to spend exactly this much 342 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.519 time with this character, yes, yes, right, and and and 343 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:32.599 we just dip in. We we go on this little 344 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:34.400 journey with this character and then and then we never 345 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:38.599 see him again. That's the point. And and the show, 346 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.880 I mean, it didn't last very long, so they learned 347 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.839 it quick. But I mean it's for TV. They kept 348 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:46.880 trying to do that because they did an Uncle Buck series. 349 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:48.680 Yeah, they've done a couple. 350 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:50.680 Yeah, Uncle but which might have been right around the 351 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.000 same time the Faris Bueler Show, and that that show 352 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:55.920 starts with that's a sequel to the movie. 353 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.319 Okay, I remember, I can see it, but I don't 354 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:00.319 remember as. 355 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:04.960 Kevin Meaney as Buck. And you know, the parents. 356 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.839 Die, oh geez, and so. 357 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:09.640 Buck has to adopt the kids, and I'm like, what 358 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:17.119 are you guys doing. It starts, oh, you know, the parents, 359 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.319 and you know how Buck like, you know, rebuilds his 360 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:21.920 relationship with Yeah, we're just dead. 361 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:28.720 Now, you know. Yeah, leave it. Leave John Hughes alone. 362 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:30.119 If I learned that, you know what, I'm putting my 363 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:31.480 pen down. I am. 364 00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:35.480 So no shot for shot, remakeup Parisula from you? 365 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:41.519 No, no, no, actually that would be interesting though. Yeah. No, sorry, no, no, 366 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:43.519 that's it. Yeah. Uh well, I have one more thing 367 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:46.880 to talk about, and uh it is that I saw 368 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:50.720 the movie back Rooms, and this is kind of the 369 00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.720 sensation sweeping the nation at the moment. Did you see 370 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:58.400 this coming? Because this is apparently a very well known 371 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.039 property with teenagers. 372 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:06.079 This is how I know I'm I'm rapidly aging because 373 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.920 this came out of the clear blue sky for me. 374 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.720 Okay, well, actually I did know what it was, but 375 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:15.480 I had never seen it before i'd seen the picture, 376 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.039 So okay, to try to set this up, I'll read 377 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:19.559 the log line of what this movie is and then 378 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:21.759 give a little history on it because it's pretty fascinating. 379 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.359 So the loglane on IMDb is after a therapist's patient 380 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.480 disappears into a dimension beyond reality, she must venture into 381 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.359 the unknown to save him. Basically, yeah, it's like, basically, 382 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.200 this guy works at a furniture store. She will tell 383 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.680 edge of four and he's an unhappy person, and he 384 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:46.119 goes into the basement and he discovers a portal in 385 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:50.519 his wall that leads him into this alternate universe, which 386 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:57.559 is just a never ending labyrinth of mundane like you know, 387 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:05.640 neon light yellow office space, and it feels sort of 388 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:09.000 like real life, but there's something just a little off 389 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.759 about it, like the the way that the halls are angled, 390 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:17.559 or you'll see things from reality chairs, tables, whatever, but 391 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.839 they're like blended into the ground almost like you know, 392 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.920 like there is some some sort of weird mishap where 393 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.440 something didn't go through a portal correctly, and so only 394 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:31.160 half of it is appearing. And as he wanders these halls, 395 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:37.440 he hears things in the distance, so he's possibly not alone, 396 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.880 and we don't know what that thing is. 397 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:48.519 And so you get it's well, anyway, the way that 398 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:50.920 I'm having fun just listening to attempt to discribe, I know, 399 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.079 I know it's it's riveting. 400 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:57.359 Sorry this bad video, but but but the way that 401 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:01.000 it started was it was some picture that someone posted 402 00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:03.640 of a real off empty office space and it was 403 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:05.640 online and then I think it was on four Chan 404 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:09.839 or something like that. They posted the picture and then 405 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.720 they started making up this mythology of what this place 406 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:17.240 could be because it just looked mundane but also like 407 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:19.839 kind of off putting in like a place you wouldn't 408 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.119 necessarily even though all the lights are on, you just 409 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:25.519 wouldn't necessarily want to stand there like alone. It just 410 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:28.519 feels like, is there's something around that corner? Like what's 411 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.759 something's off about this place? And so it became this 412 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:35.119 internet mythology. And then this kid named Kane Parsons. 413 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:37.920 He's twenty, so he started working on this as a teenager. 414 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:39.880 Yeah, I think he made this when he was nineteen 415 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.319 or if I'm not mistaken, he's turning twenty one shortly. 416 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.720 Yeah, when this all started, he was seventeen. Yeah, so 417 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:51.160 he basically needless to say, I'm looking at my three 418 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:54.319 teenagers with a lot of disappointment after this past weekend, 419 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.240 right with the judge eyes. 420 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:02.000 Judge eyes, that's what jedge reyin Hold looks at his 421 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:08.039 wife with JG That's true. So he took this mythology 422 00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:13.799 and he basically made these YouTube videos where they look 423 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.480 like found footage, sort of like Blair Witch Project sort 424 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.079 of thing where someone accidentally goes through the portal. And 425 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:21.640 what's brilliant about it is he made it in Blender, 426 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.279 so it's not real like it's all computer graphics, but 427 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:28.039 it looks very very good, very very real, and it 428 00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:30.759 looks like someone with a camcorder, like an old school 429 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.319 vhscam quarterer, has gone through a portal and ends up 430 00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:35.759 in this place and is wandering these hallways, and he 431 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:41.119 puts like the perfect distortion and sound design, so it 432 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:43.319 really does feel like a person walking around with one 433 00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:45.400 of these old school cam quarters. So that's what really 434 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:47.559 sells it, Like you really feel like you're in this 435 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:56.319 unsettling slash mundane place. So anyway, I watched I'd never 436 00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:58.559 seen it before. I just seen the picture that originated it. 437 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.200 But after I watched the movie, I went and watch 438 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.839 the first short, and I recommend it. It's actually very impressive. 439 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.079 I can totally see and apparently he's made a lot 440 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:09.079 of them since. And I can see why A twenty 441 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:12.519 four saw this kid and was like he gets this, 442 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:17.279 like he this is a very particular esthetic and he 443 00:24:17.319 --> 00:24:21.680 has already nailed it. So I don't know, let's see 444 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:24.279 bring him in. Why have someone try to imitate what 445 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.720 he's already done, you know, and that doesn't make him 446 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.160 like a that's a real I can't think of another movie, 447 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:31.559 a major release like this has been made by someone 448 00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:34.960 so young. But I think it's cool that they did 449 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:40.000 bring him in because this movie is just a spectacular vision. 450 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.720 Yeah, it's headed towards being eight twenty four's biggest hit ever. 451 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.920 Yeah, I mean so okay, So I again, I'm familiar 452 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.039 with this internet mythology. I knew this movie was coming, 453 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.920 but this is not really on my radar, right, So 454 00:24:54.039 --> 00:24:55.799 Chad and I were like, well, let's go check this out. 455 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:58.640 It looks kind of fun, like something we'd enjoy. And 456 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:01.359 we go to the theater and it is packed with kids, 457 00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:04.720 and in front of us when we're trying to get 458 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.759 our ticket scanned, there are these kids like, yeah, I 459 00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:09.759 don't know, look like twelve or something, and they were 460 00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:11.519 trying to buy tickets to this, but they wouldn't sell 461 00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:13.759 it to them because it's rated R. And I was like, 462 00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.319 I can't remember the last time I saw that, you 463 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.759 know what I mean that sense I remember it happening 464 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.200 to me or something. And then when we walked up 465 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.240 to the theater, there was a security person at the 466 00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.920 door making sure no kids snuck in, and I was 467 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:29.400 like wow. And so I'm in this big theater. It's 468 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:33.160 totally packed. And when it starts and it says back rooms, 469 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.160 the whole theater rips into applause. I was like, holy cow. 470 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:41.119 Like so there is like a dedicated Rabbit fan base 471 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.559 for this that this is like they're Star Wars, you know, 472 00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.200 like they're showing up opening night to see this thing 473 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:51.759 that they love. And so anyway, I think as a movie, 474 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.720 I'm not sure how successful it is as a movie. 475 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.240 And when I say that, it's because the characters are 476 00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:05.839 very stock. They're they're not very deep. They literally just 477 00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:10.759 feel like you know, divorced guy who keeps liquor bottle 478 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.119 by bed, you know what I mean, Or like like 479 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:19.200 they're they're they're no deeper than that. But she would 480 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:23.559 tell Edgie you four and Renata reinsve they're such great 481 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:28.640 actors that they do. They're really selling the experience for 482 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:31.000 as weird as it is, and they're very compelling to watch. 483 00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.920 You just wish that, like on a script level, I 484 00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:38.599 wish it had been a little bit more textured or 485 00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.680 or deeper character wise. 486 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.799 So what I'm hearing is you've figured out what Cane 487 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.640 Parsons does and you can do it better. 488 00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.759 Unquote Ryan Hall absolutely not absolutely no. But but what 489 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.519 I want to say is, and I've heard other people 490 00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:57.480 say this. I just listened to another podcast and they 491 00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:59.799 weren't too high on it for those reasons, and and 492 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:04.039 and basically what I would say is I agree with you. However, 493 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:10.960 as an experience I loved this. I had a blast 494 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.880 with this movie. This this is an experience movie, you 495 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.920 know what I mean. Like it does have themes, and 496 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.559 it does have conclusions for the characters, and you know, 497 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.359 we can talk about how successful you feel like that is, 498 00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:34.799 but the experience of this, the cinematography, the vision, it's 499 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:40.000 unlike anything I've seen before. And I really feel like 500 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.640 I saw a new version of Creepy Gotcha, and it 501 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:46.039 really resonated with me. I had a lot of fun 502 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:51.640 being with Edgia four kind of being creeped out but 503 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.559 wanting to know what was around the corner, hearing something scuttle, 504 00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.920 you know, in the background, and being curious what it is, 505 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.200 but also not wanting to see its face, you know, 506 00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:07.240 like it has that unsettling dream feeling, like the sort 507 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:12.519 of sense and feelings that only can happen in a dream. 508 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:18.680 And somehow Parsons captures that, you know, on film it's 509 00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:21.839 and there is a minor sort of found footage aspect 510 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.279 to it that's maybe like a little bit of an 511 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:27.480 homage to its origins. And I thought that was really successful, 512 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:29.240 Like they made it look like a home video camera 513 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.160 and there's a person going down this creepy tunnel and 514 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.240 weird sounds are happening off screen, and I just I 515 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.599 just enjoy that stuff. I enjoyed the paranormal movies. I 516 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:39.920 enjoyed Blair Witch back in the day. But I liked it. 517 00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:42.680 That's not the whole movie, it's a portion of the movie. 518 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.440 And then basically, you know, the rest of it is 519 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:51.240 wandering through these halls and where all that leads, and 520 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.680 I was totally engaged with it, had no idea where 521 00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:01.039 it was going, experience to kind of chill that. I 522 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:03.519 just can't think of another movie that's made me chill 523 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:08.079 that way. And so, you know, yeah, I as a 524 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:13.160 story and with characters, I can completely understand people wishing 525 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.319 there had been a little bit more to that. Although 526 00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:19.119 again the performances I thought were very very good. They're 527 00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.400 bringing their a game and it's really compelling to watch. 528 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:24.720 But like, for me, this was all about the ride. 529 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:30.079 This was just such a cool ride and I recommend 530 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.160 it on that alone, honestly. And I'm very curious how 531 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.440 this is going to continue to perform. I mean insane 532 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.039 that this movie from this first time director who's like 533 00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:43.359 nineteen when he made it based on a YouTube video, 534 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:50.200 opens to eighty million plus, right, Like that's bonkers, And 535 00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.440 so now I'm curious, like does it have legs? Do 536 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.000 more people turn up for this? Does the audience continue 537 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.000 watching it? Like does it have a steep drop. I'm 538 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:57.640 very curious. 539 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.400 I think this one will have legs, because get it, 540 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.480 the word of mouth is going to carry it. I 541 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.599 also am already feeling bad for Cane Parsons in terms 542 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.519 of having to follow up on this. Oh totally. I 543 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.559 feel like this is like a Shyamalan situation about to happen. 544 00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.279 That is a really great comp yep. I mean hopefully not, 545 00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:22.079 but that the possibility absolutely, And I. 546 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:24.240 Mean this this seems, at least in terms of word 547 00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:26.480 of mouth, kind of a Blair Witch situation, which you 548 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.400 likened it too earlier, where it's just well, I can't 549 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:32.119 really talk about it. You got to just go see it, 550 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:32.400 you know. 551 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:34.599 Yeah, yeah I was. 552 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:35.960 I was hoping to catch it by the time we 553 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.920 record today, but unfortunately the scheduling did not work. 554 00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.839 So oh yeah, yeah, I've been wanting to catch obsession 555 00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:44.680 speaking of, but I just haven't had the time. 556 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.400 Yeah, that's another one. Yeah, the stuff is starting to 557 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.400 pile up. Sheep detectives. Also, yep, my wife, I'm gonna 558 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.839 just watch the sheep Detectives. She snuck away and watched that. 559 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.160 So so we may need to do like this may 560 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:58.400 end up becoming a recurring segment where it's just stuff 561 00:30:58.440 --> 00:30:59.599 I haven't seen but I'm gonna have. 562 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.720 And then right, right, right, you have a nice conversation 563 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:05.319 about Yeah, one more thing I want to I want 564 00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:08.480 to give it credit for also is there there are 565 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:13.079 things back there, and I'm certain that there were visual 566 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.000 effects employed, and so I want to compliment the visual 567 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:16.359 effects because I couldn't tell. 568 00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:18.759 I couldn't tell what was a visual effect. And there 569 00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.920 are also things that you see that are clearly practical 570 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:30.359 and really there, and they are very unnerving, interesting, and 571 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:36.160 I think the practicality of them is what really sells it. Okay, 572 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.759 And it's one of those things where you're just like, 573 00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.559 it's not like Freddy Krueger, you know what I mean, 574 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.759 Like it's a little weirder than that. It's more dream 575 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.240 like than that, and somehow like to just create that 576 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.559 and capture that and make me have like this the 577 00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.279 thing when you're trying to explain to dream of someone 578 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.599 and you just can't quite do it, or they're just like, 579 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.000 I know this meant something to you when you had 580 00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:59.680 a feeling, but I can't understand what you're talking about. 581 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.920 Somehow Kane Parsons translated that into something literal a film, 582 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.920 and it's I had a great time watching it. 583 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:11.960 So what about if you, Brian, are wandering through the 584 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.440 back rooms and you just see a guy dressed as 585 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.640 a pilgrim? Yeah, is that your nightmare scenario? 586 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.920 I'd be like that guy in mullhalland Drive when he 587 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.880 doesn't want to see what's behind the dumpster and he's 588 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.319 like walking up to it and then he basically like dies. 589 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:28.319 A fright. That would be. 590 00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:31.720 For those of you who don't know, this is a 591 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:37.960 deep cut to Brian's long standing pilgrim terror. There's context 592 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.440 to that, but I think it's funnier to say you're 593 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:41.279 scared of pilgrims. 594 00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.680 No I yeah, no I am. I They make me uncomfortable. 595 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.160 I love the idea that somebody's listening to this episode, 596 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.559 this is their first episode of movie film, and they're like, 597 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:56.839 he's afraid of pilgrims? 598 00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:57.480 What like that? 599 00:32:57.640 --> 00:32:59.200 You know, we just don't explain it. 600 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.400 Yeah, yeah, but you know it's funny. Sean Coyle, our friend, 601 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:05.400 his kids, they know this about me, and so for 602 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.119 my birthday a lot of times they'll make me birthday cards, 603 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:11.599 like draw them and they'll draw Pilgrims in them. 604 00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.200 Very see now that's what I see you like like 605 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:17.519 John Hawk and Congo, Remember like he he dies a 606 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.799 fright when he sees the you know, Amy, yes, right, right, 607 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.599 So that's why I you know, I like the idea 608 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.400 of Sean's Sean's son coming up to you dressed up 609 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.440 like a pilgrim O Brian and you're just like a 610 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:30.799 and you're just dead. 611 00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.839 I love. But also too like our our references I love. 612 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:36.680 I'm like, yeah, you know, Mohulan driver, the guy dies 613 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.359 of fright and you're like, yeah, Congo or the guy 614 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:44.400 drives a friend like yeah, no, no, Congo. I love that. Yeah. 615 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.000 What have you been watching? I? 616 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.559 I have been somewhat busy this past week. The last 617 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.119 I think the last time we recorded. The last thing 618 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.799 I'd seen was was Spider and Wir Yes, right. And 619 00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:57.599 that's been kind of fun because my kids are watching it, 620 00:33:57.640 --> 00:33:59.279 so I've sort of been dipping in and out watching 621 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:02.640 and they're really in it, you know, And the reaction 622 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.039 to that show has been fun in that, you know, 623 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.559 what's working in its favor is that it's not really 624 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.960 tied up in all the multiversal shenanigans and you're not 625 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:18.960 stressing over how does this quote unquote fit. You're just like, now, 626 00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:24.480 it's a fun story. Nicholas Cage being like, hey, hey, 627 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.360 Silver Marine, I don't know what you're doing here, but 628 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.000 I'm afraid I got't to stop you. 629 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:29.199 You know. 630 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.519 It's just a lot of that, and you're like, I'm 631 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:31.000 down for that. 632 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.920 Yeah, I heard he's doing kind of a Cagney. Is 633 00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:34.320 that right? 634 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.559 He's doing a little Cagney little Lettergy Robinson. I think 635 00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.400 I said this during our last discussion. The character is 636 00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:48.840 obsessed with gangster pictures, so ah, there's at least a 637 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:53.239 character a reason for it. I also admire the restraint 638 00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:58.559 of doing a a you know, kind of a Bogart 639 00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:03.559 esque set and not having voiceover narration, which you think 640 00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:06.360 that would have been the most obviously, and they shied 641 00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:10.000 away from that. So so so it isn't just just 642 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.920 Nicholas Cage. You know, she wandered into my office and 643 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.760 I've never seen anybody who look like that before. You know, 644 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.360 they didn't do that. I admire. I admire the restraint, 645 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:20.000 That's all I'm saying. 646 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.039 Yeah, but it's a good one. 647 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.039 I do think you would enjoy it, so Okay, cool, 648 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.920 recommend that anyway, As I was saying before I was 649 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:36.320 so rudely interrupted, we have some listener letters. You have 650 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:49.159 eighteen thousands all addressed. You've got me, all right, we 651 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.280 got some. We got some Star Wars related communications. Seems 652 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.159 appropriate because you may have forgotten, Brian, but there is 653 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.480 a Star Wars movie in theaters right now. 654 00:35:58.800 --> 00:35:59.679 Mm hmm, that's right. 655 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.119 It is rapidly dropping down the charts. 656 00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.320 I was gonna say, it's part of a narrative of 657 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:10.119 some unprecedented box office recently, right, I mean where you 658 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.360 have Star Wars did a hard seventy percent drop in 659 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.519 its second weekend, and then you have that movie Obsession, 660 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:21.400 which was made for under a million dollars, and each 661 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:25.360 week it's been out it has made more money, which 662 00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:28.599 apparently the last time that happened was with et. 663 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:29.960 Wow. 664 00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.880 Yeah, so that is an impressive story. And on top 665 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.239 of that, that was I think number two this last weekend, 666 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.599 and number one was Back Rooms, nineteen year old filmmaker 667 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:44.719 based on a YouTube video opens to eighty one million, 668 00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.239 So people are like, wow, this is it almost feels 669 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.400 like back in the seventies, you know where Steven Spielberg 670 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.639 is making his Shark movie, and George Lucas is making 671 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.000 a space movie. And the establishment was like, who are 672 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.320 these kids? And what is this pew pew and space stuff? 673 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.920 Well, you know that come Monday morning, every producer had 674 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.880 their assistant just scouring four Chan. 675 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.760 Yeah, well the creepypasta stuff, right, like all that online horror. 676 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.719 Yeah, because we're about to get a whole bunch of 677 00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.320 I mean, it's a coming, you know, totally all that. 678 00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.639 Here's a note we got from Roger and this is 679 00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.639 he emailed us a movie film podcast at gmail dot com. 680 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.119 This is when regards to our Solo as Star Wars 681 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.760 story commentary. Ah this Isaac and Bryant. I loved this commentary. 682 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.000 I listened while doing house chores. That's I love that. 683 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.119 I love that people people shovel the driveway while listening 684 00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:35.719 to us and stuff. 685 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:36.800 That's cool. 686 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.880 I unfortunately didn't see Solo in the cinema because I 687 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.079 was barely a Star Wars fan. Then I saw Solo 688 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:47.000 on TV a year later. It is so fun. I'm 689 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.920 not an uber Star Wars fan, but I appreciate the 690 00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.519 world now. I fell in love with Star Wars in 691 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.239 twenty twenty. I watched them in release order in David 692 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.719 Cornsweat's preferred release order, which is four or five, one, two, 693 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:03.519 three and six, which is the. 694 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:05.840 Is that machete machete order? 695 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.679 Yeah, so basically that that way what you do is 696 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:12.719 you if you watch them. Basically the idea is that 697 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.440 if you watch them in number order, you lose the 698 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.800 big reveal of Darth Vader being Luke's father. So if 699 00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.480 you go, if you go Star Wars Empire, you get 700 00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.880 the reveal, and then you get the backstory with the 701 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:25.599 prequel trilogy, and then you come back and watch your 702 00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:26.199 train of the Jedi. 703 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.480 Yep, I watched the. 704 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:34.519 I watched them in quorn Swit's preferred Star Wars order 705 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.440 last month for Grogu prep time and the sequels and 706 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:43.119 the Mando show after uh man, that's a lot of 707 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:43.840 Star Wars right there. 708 00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:44.119 Yeah. 709 00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:46.440 Yeah, I thought it'd be cute to see qrn Sweats 710 00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:47.960 watch order. I have no clue how good Mandow and 711 00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:49.880 Grogog will be, but I'll be there. Thanks for the 712 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.679 show guys. Ps Disney, make corn switz wish come true 713 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:54.000 of being an X Wing pilot. 714 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:56.920 Yeah, I'd be happy to see him in Star Wars. 715 00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.480 David Kornswett is such as Star Wars Dork, which I love. 716 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:06.440 We talked about it before he recorded himself playing the 717 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.639 music of the Death Star Assault while doing the entire 718 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.719 voiceover of the whole sequence. 719 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.159 Yeah. He knows the music the score so well that 720 00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:18.000 he knew where all the dialogue landed, and he was 721 00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.800 informssive Nerdery. Yeah, it was pretty good. See. 722 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.480 That's the type of shit that when I was younger, 723 00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:28.239 if I were to do that, I would make sure 724 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.559 there was not a camera anywhere near. You know, it'd 725 00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.320 be like Star Wars Kid. Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. You 726 00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.079 can't live that shit down, you know, David Cornstar gets 727 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:38.760 to play Supermans. 728 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:39.159 I don't know. 729 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.760 Maybe I was wrong the whole time. Yeah, thank you 730 00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.800 for that, Roger, and I would love to know what 731 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.760 you thought of Mandalorian Grogu. Yeah, definitely speaking of thoughts 732 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.199 on Mandalorian Grogu. Here's an email we got from Matthew 733 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.079 also a movie from podcastgbail dot com as I left 734 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.360 a screening of the Mandalorian and Grogu, questioning the life 735 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:02.400 choices that had led me the I don't feel like 736 00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:05.880 I'm unclear what he thought of that movie, Brian, I 737 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:06.239 don't know. 738 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:08.760 I got to. 739 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:13.159 Thinking just how much of contemporary geek pop culture consists 740 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.639 of prequels. Literally, everything Star Wars has done since the 741 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.440 Rise of Skywalker is a prequel to The Force Awakens, 742 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.840 Star Trek Strange New world That's true. Yeah, Star Trek 743 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.360 Strange New Worlds is a prequel, and Picard was a 744 00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:29.480 prequel to the later seasons of Discovery. Over on HBO 745 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.119 home of the prequel it Welcome to Darry. Both West 746 00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:34.679 Roast series are prequels to Game of Thrones and the 747 00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:36.880 Realm of Middle Earth. Both The Rings of Power and 748 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.159 War of the Row Herem are prequels, along with the 749 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:41.719 upcoming movies about the Hunt for Gollum and the flashback 750 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:44.239 story about how the Hobbits actually did meet Tom Bombadil 751 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:48.320 before reaching Rivendell after all. Meanwhile, both Alien Romulus and 752 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.159 Alien Earth are prequels to Aliens, and the next Narnia 753 00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:52.960 reboot will start with a prequel to The Lion, The 754 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.840 Witch and the Wardrobe. June Part three is technically moving 755 00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.239 to the Big the moving the Big screen franchise forward, 756 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.559 but it's based on a book with lots of decades 757 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.639 old sequels, and the Odyssey takes place in the distant past. 758 00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.840 Starfleet Academy nominally advanced to the star Trek narrative, yet 759 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.679 still managed to give off prequel vibes by focusing on 760 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.760 the rebuilding of the Federation, thereby making it a spiritual 761 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.280 prequel to at least the next generation. Also, the rebooted 762 00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:18.760 Harry Potter series will be one long prequel to the 763 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.360 Cursed Child Play. Finally, the MCU stands alone by charting 764 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.039 new ground, but even the famously tight lipped Kevin Feigey 765 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.119 hasn't bothered to conceal that Secret Wars will feature a 766 00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.199 major continuity shakeup of some kind. So the upcoming Spider 767 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:36.920 Man and Doomsday Flix also carry a certain prequelly gene. Sequah. Now, 768 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:39.440 I love me some franchises and and Or felt fresh 769 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.000 as hex, so I'm no automatic prequel hater, but this 770 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.880 feels like a lot of retrospection. No, I don't really 771 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.639 have much more to say about all this, but just 772 00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:49.000 thought it worth pointing out. 773 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.840 Yeah, that's that's pretty fascinating seeing it all listed out 774 00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:55.159 like that. 775 00:41:55.800 --> 00:42:00.679 Well, I will say I think the Starfleet Academy example, 776 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.639 I see where you're going. It feels like a little 777 00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:05.920 bit of a push to me. I think the mc 778 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.320 I mean, with the MCU, that's like saying, well, every 779 00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.199 MCU thing is a prequel. 780 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:10.360 To the next thing. 781 00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:15.360 I mean, you know, it's like, well yeah. However, broadly, 782 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.360 I think we're seeing something very interesting, which is that 783 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:24.400 corporations are are averse to change. They don't want to 784 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.280 change the window dressing of their big brands too much 785 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.400 because that moves it too far away from the thing. 786 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:30.760 That makes them money. Yeap. 787 00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.159 So I don't think it's a surprise at all. Star 788 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:35.880 Wars has been sort of a unique beast thatch you've 789 00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.039 talked about before. I think they're terrified to go past 790 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:39.639 Rise of Skywalker because they don't know what the hell 791 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:39.920 to do. 792 00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.840 I was gonna say, I think why they would, or 793 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.880 these studios with all these properties would be inclined to 794 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.000 do prequels is you can do new stories, but there 795 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.599 is like a ceiling that's almost like a safety net 796 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.960 for you, like you know what how much you can 797 00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:58.000 change and how much you can't change, and you can 798 00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:01.079 work within like safe confine. But if you were to 799 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.519 do it post stories that have already been told, you're 800 00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:09.119 charting something that's like the wild West, right, and it 801 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:11.599 might affect things that you want to do later, and 802 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:15.239 it just feels a little riskier to venture out that way, right. 803 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.840 Well, I think you know what's interesting is when we 804 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.519 talk about the Star Wars prequels, I mean, the biggest knock, 805 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:25.639 well there are many knocks now, but I mean what 806 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.719 the biggest knock against the Force Awakens was like, why 807 00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:32.400 are you guys just redoing a new hope? And that 808 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.039 sort of tells you something where even as they moved 809 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.480 it forward, the goal really wasn't to move it forward. 810 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:42.360 It was to take it backward. So I think the 811 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.400 fact that they are doing all these prequels, I mean, 812 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:48.039 I'm look, I'm I'm not opposed to prequels, but I 813 00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:52.599 am i am burned out on prequels because you know, 814 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.119 it's like I'm kind of like, well, the if it 815 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:02.639 was worth telling, you would have done it already generally 816 00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:06.679 with rare exceptions, right. I mean, Godfather Part two has 817 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:11.440 prequel elements, right, right? But remember like like remember when 818 00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:14.519 they were talking about doing the John McClain prequel, Yes, 819 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:19.360 and it's like, why, dude, you know I was just 820 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.280 about to bring this up there doing this the John 821 00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.360 Rambo which is coming out in June, I think, and 822 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.480 and my thought is like, well, what what is that story? 823 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:35.719 Because like, either he's just a regular soldier in Vietnam 824 00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.960 or he's a friggin psychopath in Vietnam, and I don't 825 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:44.000 believe that's the case. So it's like, what what is 826 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.239 what is the necessary element of this story? 827 00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:48.599 You know? 828 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:55.639 Yeah, because inevitably it's like how do we how do 829 00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:59.199 we allude to the thing that people know? Yeah, you know, 830 00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:03.320 And and you know, the example I've used before is 831 00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:07.880 Hannibal Rising, which is the Hannibal Elector prequel, and it's 832 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:11.039 him as a kid, and and I'm like, well, I 833 00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.079 don't I don't want to I don't want to see 834 00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.639 why Hannibal Lecter became the way he did, you know, right, 835 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.280 And and then you know, even even Red Dragon, which 836 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.960 is very much a prequel, uh, tries to incorporate as 837 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:26.039 much of the hey, you know, this is connected to 838 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:27.519 that other thing, Like I don't like that. 839 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:29.000 You know. 840 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:38.320 There's another Yeah, it's talking about the hunt for Gollum. 841 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:41.039 And that's another one where like you're sort of like, 842 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.400 what what is interesting about this story? 843 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:51.639 Yeah, because we all we already know where it ends, right, Yeah, exactly, 844 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:52.159 you know. 845 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.159 And and I think since the last time we discussed it, 846 00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:00.800 they have cast Jamie Dornan as Aragorn, and that is 847 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:02.679 good casting, I will say. I think, yeah, I think 848 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.840 he right, like I can. I can absolutely see that. 849 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:06.000 Yeah, yeah, me too. 850 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.440 So I remember you and I were like, man, whoever 851 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.159 the poor bastard is. I'm like, well, you know what, 852 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.039 it could have been worse? I think he is. I 853 00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:15.519 think he would do well in that role. And I 854 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.800 think you would do something different enough that you wouldn't 855 00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.360 you wouldn't be too fixated on the fact that it's 856 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:26.519 not Vigo Mortenson, you know. But yeah, Hey, Hollywood is 857 00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:29.360 built on recycling familiarity, so that I think that's the 858 00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:33.159 reason we got so many prequels. Yeah, and they will 859 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:33.760 never stop. 860 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:35.280 You know. 861 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:40.199 It's funny. We were talking about this a couple episodes ago. 862 00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:43.840 I don't remember what about specifically, but we were just 863 00:46:43.880 --> 00:46:47.239 being like a little cynical about Hollywood and them trying 864 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.880 to please everybody and then pleasing nobody and making these 865 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:54.360 very safe blockbusters. And I'm thinking two things right now. 866 00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.039 After when I was editing that episode, and I heard 867 00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:02.159 us saying it again, I did think, you know, yes, 868 00:47:03.159 --> 00:47:07.280 And there have been an awful lot of interesting movies recently. 869 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.920 I just recently, I mean this year alone, the drama 870 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.239 was really interesting in Sinners and One, Battle and Weapons 871 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.440 and Project Hail Mary. You know is all doing pretty well. Yeah, 872 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.400 And I talked about a movie called Crime one to 873 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.119 one that was really good that came out in theaters 874 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:29.880 this year, and Send Help earlier this year, so it's 875 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:35.760 not like we're only getting recycled story blockbusters sorts of things. 876 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:39.920 I've been kind of impressed when I really think about 877 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.880 how many interesting things have come out theatrically, even though 878 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.760 maybe they don't perform as much as we would like, 879 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:48.079 but they have been given a shot at least, and 880 00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.199 people have discovered them at some point at whether in 881 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:54.760 theaters or streaming. And then the other thing I think is, well, 882 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:59.039 if some of those blockbusters keep the lights on, you 883 00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.119 know what I mean, it's then if people want to 884 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.519 see them enjoy them, great. But I am happy that 885 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.480 there have been options, more options than I think I've 886 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.039 been giving credit lately. 887 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.480 So stay with me on that's how about a Fairis 888 00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:18.480 Bueller prequel have you heard about this? Well, I was 889 00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:19.679 just joking. Is this a real thing? 890 00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.480 I actually don't remember if this is top secret or not. No, No, 891 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.199 this was this was announced. Oh okay, I was just 892 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.000 I was I was one hundred percent joking. Just to 893 00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.880 be clear, that was there was a script. It was 894 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.239 in development, and it was about the two guys who 895 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:36.039 take the car. 896 00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.239 So that's not even a prequel. That's just like a 897 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:40.159 side side squol. 898 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.039 Yeah, but but they basically went out. I guess I'm 899 00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:47.239 not probab should talk about this, but anyway, that's basically 900 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.679 that's yeah, yes, ZACKI they thought of that already. Okay, Now, 901 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.480 I mean we're you know, and I say that because 902 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.800 like your cynical idea, it's like that's how cynical it is. 903 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.840 It's like, yeah, they they mind it. 904 00:48:58.039 --> 00:48:59.039 They at least considered it. 905 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:01.920 Yeah, although I think if you're going to do it, 906 00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.679 that's like not, that's pretty clever the two guys. 907 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.559 That's almost like as far as I'd be willing to 908 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:12.039 go right right at least it's something different what I want. 909 00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:13.519 And by when I say what I want, I A 910 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:16.119 mean what I don't want is like faris goes it's 911 00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:18.000 his first day of school. He's like the new kid 912 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:22.000 and everybody's picking on him or whatever. And he meets camera, 913 00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:26.639 Cameron is like kind of the cool kid. And then 914 00:49:26.880 --> 00:49:28.760 by by the end of the story, the tables are 915 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:29.679 turned and. 916 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:33.840 Right, right, right, or he like does his first confident 917 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.519 thing and realize there's power and confidence and you know, 918 00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:36.840 then he. 919 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.039 Right, yeah, well it's like Bart, you know, when he 920 00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:40.719 goes to school for the first time and he's like, 921 00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:46.360 but man, and right, you know, yeah, Cameron's like, the 922 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.239 world needs. 923 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:47.760 A clown or whatever. 924 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:53.719 Exactly exactly knock on wood. So that doesn't happen, uh, 925 00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:58.320 but but yes, I think it just so happens. We 926 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.599 are speaking at a moment when they're is a lot 927 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:06.800 of new energy in interesting new ideas, and so as 928 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:10.000 we talk about often hopefully it means yeah, sure, you know, 929 00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.519 we get our you know, our sequels and our franchises, 930 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:14.719 which were ultimately fine with on a case by case, 931 00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:18.159 but do the other stuff too, you know. 932 00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.599 Yeah, which, by the way, I'm thinking, just because I 933 00:50:21.639 --> 00:50:24.360 mentioned the drama and now Robert Pattinson's on my mind, 934 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.400 did you see the trailer for that To Catch a Predator? 935 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:32.599 Dude's coming, sign me up. I know what is the deal, 936 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.320 but I feel the same way, dude. 937 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:38.880 So it's called Primetime and it's it's Robert Pattinson as 938 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:42.199 Chris Hansen and he has that inflection down. 939 00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:43.440 Yeah, yeah, totally. 940 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.280 And it's it's looking at the making of To Catch 941 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:49.760 a Predator, which you may remember, you know, they came 942 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:51.760 out with a documentary about it just in the in 943 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:52.440 the last year. 944 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.239 I watched it on your recommendation. 945 00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:57.199 Oh you did. Okay, it's good documentary, right, it's very good. 946 00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:57.440 Yeah. 947 00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:01.000 Really, it's called Predators, and I suspect that this film 948 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:03.599 is going to traverse much of the same ground. 949 00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.119 Kind of interrogating the whole enterprise. 950 00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:13.039 Yeah, sort of the the impact of this, you know, 951 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:16.039 this show, which is really gross. 952 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:17.599 Yeah, but. 953 00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:24.599 You know, by putting these pretty disgusting people on display, 954 00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:30.280 it sort of cloaks itself in righteousness, and so you 955 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:32.239 kind of have to take a step backward and be like, well. 956 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:33.239 This is all gross. 957 00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:37.440 Yeah yeah, right, And again I suspect that's the angle 958 00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.320 the film is going to take, and so I'm very 959 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:41.760 much interested in the documentary is term for those of 960 00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.119 you listening, it's called Predators, not to be confused with 961 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:51.079 Predator three, also called Predators. Yeah, very different thematic focus. 962 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.400 Yeah yeah, but I knew this movie was coming, and 963 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.000 I thought it was going to be like an analog 964 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.159 to Catch a Predator. But then when you hear Patson like, 965 00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.199 why don't you take a seat, you know, like doing 966 00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:05.559 the voices. Oh they're really doing one NBC. Yeah. 967 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:13.039 Yeah, and you know the documentary actually interviews Chris Hansen, 968 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.719 and I found that probably the most fascinating part of it. 969 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:17.880 M that was. 970 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.480 Interesting, right because because he sort of has to reckon 971 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.280 with his role in this, right, So I mean either 972 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.360 he you know, it's like two options, either disabout be 973 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.239 like well we you know, we went a little too far, 974 00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.280 or be like no, we did a lot of good. 975 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:32.840 Because that's his legacy. 976 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:35.159 Now, that's his legacy. And he's still doing it, by 977 00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:36.960 the way, now he's just doing it on YouTube. 978 00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.679 Yeah, like a web series. Yeah. 979 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:41.599 Interesting stuff anyway, Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. I 980 00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:42.400 think that's in the fall. 981 00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:47.119 Yes, moving on, Hey, Brian, we. 982 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:47.760 Got some headlines. 983 00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:55.400 What a scoop? 984 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.480 Well here's a big one. Marshall Lucas has passed away. 985 00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:03.800 Yeah yeah, Marsin Lucas ex wife of George Lucas, but 986 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:08.360 perhaps just as importantly, she was the editor of the 987 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.639 original Star Wars and Return of the Jedi Taxi Driver 988 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:17.400 and yeah, above and beyond the Lucas of it all. Yeah, 989 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:21.719 she has been credited with you know, you know, it's 990 00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:28.079 sort of like initially, you know, following George Lucas's divorce, 991 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:31.239 I think he tried to move away from crediting her 992 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:35.880 very much, right, Yeah, And so what you saw was 993 00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.880 a bounce back where fans were crediting her with having 994 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.440 saved the film. And I feel like the truth is 995 00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.280 probably somewhere in the middle. I totally agree with that, 996 00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:48.400 as tends to be the case. But yes, t ch 997 00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.679 Ex eleven thirty eight American Graffiti, Alice doesn't live here anymore. 998 00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.320 Taxi Driver in New York, New York. Incredible editor, incredible instincts, 999 00:53:55.400 --> 00:54:00.719 And what you realize by the diversity of her filmography 1000 00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:05.639 is that there is a specific sensitivity that's required to 1001 00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:11.719 be an editor. Where you have to you have to 1002 00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:17.199 go where the movie is attempting to take you, and 1003 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:19.360 and sometimes that means grappling with it a little bit, 1004 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:22.000 you know. She described and interviews the conversation she had 1005 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.760 with with George, not as a wife, but as an 1006 00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:29.039 editor about the things that she felt strongly should be 1007 00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.159 cut out versus things she felt strongly should be left in. 1008 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:34.199 And and you know, that whole dialogue that goes into 1009 00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.199 film with construction is so fascinating, right mm hm. And 1010 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:38.920 I think I think, I mean, certainly she has a 1011 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:40.960 very integral role in Star Wars. 1012 00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.679 Oh definitely. I mean an example, I think the thing 1013 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:49.280 was everyone knew it wasn't quite locking in the way 1014 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.840 that it should and I think even you know, George 1015 00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.920 Lucas was aware of that, and so he had everybody 1016 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.119 put their heads together and he got, you know, surrounded 1017 00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:01.239 himself with smart people, including Marcia Lucas, and and they 1018 00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.320 came up with ideas like I don't think originally there 1019 00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:08.320 was a ticking clock at the end of a New Hope, 1020 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.039 you know, the countdown to blowing up the rebel bass, 1021 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:14.519 and that was something that was like put together in 1022 00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:20.519 post you know, and just finding ways to ratchet things up. 1023 00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:25.760 And like she's responsible for a lot of those things 1024 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.480 that make us grip our seats at the end of 1025 00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.960 that movie. You know, those a lot of her contributions. So, 1026 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:35.000 I mean, definitely she played a major part in helping 1027 00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:38.360 to shape that movie for sure. Yeah. 1028 00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.639 The only you know, I think there's that sense of 1029 00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.159 like she you know, she saved the movie. 1030 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.239 Yes, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, And I feel like 1031 00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:48.159 there is. 1032 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.719 It's interesting to look at different sort of factions of 1033 00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:57.239 Star Wars fandom, where you've got orthodox Star Wars fans, 1034 00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:01.639 you have reformed Star Wars fans, and so there is 1035 00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:05.480 the there's like the anti Lucas Star Wars fans, which 1036 00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:09.159 seems like an insane thing to say, but yet we 1037 00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:12.360 know that is true. Yeah, We're like, well, if it 1038 00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:14.920 wasn't for his ex wife, the movie wouldn't have been 1039 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:18.079 what it is. And it's like, well, even she would say, 1040 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:21.480 like all the pieces were with Lucas, you know, I 1041 00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:23.440 mean it started with him. There wouldn't be a movie 1042 00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:24.360 if it wasn't for him. You know. 1043 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:26.039 That's why I agree with you that it's something in 1044 00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.400 the middle. Yeah, yes, it's it's that's one of the 1045 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.400 smartest things you can do in a collaboration is to 1046 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.760 surround yourself with smart people and have no ego and 1047 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.599 just listen to the best idea. 1048 00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:40.320 Right that's exactly right. And you know, I don't know 1049 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:41.960 if we talked about it on the podcast, but but 1050 00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:45.400 you know, she had been interviewed recently. 1051 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:49.280 Do you remember this? Yeah, it was a it's like 1052 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:53.719 a series, right, are you talking about that TV series? Yeah? 1053 00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.280 But like the I feel like the raw footage was 1054 00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:57.400 released of the interview. 1055 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.559 Oh I did not see that. I believe I can't 1056 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:06.880 remember the show. It was like on Vice see see. 1057 00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:08.920 Yeah, I guess we should have. You should have done 1058 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.639 like a bare minimum of icons unearthed. Yes, is a serio. Yeah, 1059 00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:18.960 so that's the series. And so they they released like 1060 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.280 the raw footage it's like three hours plus. You can 1061 00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:22.159 find it on YouTube. 1062 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:22.599 Oh wow. 1063 00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.760 And the guy who was interviewing her is a freaking idiot. 1064 00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:27.760 What do you mean? 1065 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:32.360 Like he he was not. It was so it was 1066 00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:36.280 so clear that he was a not very good at 1067 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:41.440 it and be trying to get her to say certain things. 1068 00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:45.400 Mmmm. And I'm astounded. 1069 00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:47.000 By the fact that, I mean this, this session lasted 1070 00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:50.199 for three hours whatever, you know, in fits and starts whatever. 1071 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.039 But I'm just like, you know, when you're interviewing somebody, 1072 00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:55.400 you kinda you have to you have to let them go. 1073 00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:58.679 Where they're gonna go and then you go there, and 1074 00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:04.159 it felt it felt mean spirited is the wrong word, 1075 00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:08.280 but it felt dismissive of this woman's of the entirety 1076 00:58:08.320 --> 00:58:08.960 of her career. 1077 00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:15.559 Really, to me, it did, huh, well, why why would 1078 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:16.519 you even have her there? 1079 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:21.679 An interviewer to like it was, I don't know if well, 1080 00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.599 I don't think it was about taking her down. I 1081 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:29.360 think it was sort of diminishing by omission everything else 1082 00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:34.440 she's done, you know, because it just it it felt 1083 00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:38.400 like an attempt to create some kind of an adversarial 1084 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.559 hook against George Lucas. Ah, I see, I see, and 1085 00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:47.599 and I mean she look. I mean their marriage, you know, 1086 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.199 did not end amicably, and obviously he has in the 1087 00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:56.920 decades since, you know, he hasn't been gone out of 1088 00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:59.480 his way to incorporate her, which I mean, that's his right, 1089 00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:01.840 and it just it feels icky, like I don't want 1090 00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:04.480 to get into all that, right, and so it's weird, 1091 00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:09.000 like here's a woman in the in the twilight years 1092 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:11.800 of her life and she's having to sort of to 1093 00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.599 dig through all this and her own hurt feelings about 1094 00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:16.440 not being a knowledge and I don't know, it just 1095 00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:18.400 it felt gross to me. That's that's just, that's all 1096 00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:18.880 I'm saying. 1097 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.920 That's tough, because I think it's nice that she had 1098 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:27.960 an opportunity to tell her story, right, you know, and 1099 00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:32.000 share her experience. And yeah, my memory is that she 1100 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.519 didn't try to like claim some sort of larger credit 1101 00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.920 for anything. No, she wanted to tell her story like 1102 00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:42.280 I was there this, you know, right. 1103 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:45.079 But she doesn't talk about, you know, feeling like she's 1104 00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.079 been shut out of the whole thing. 1105 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:48.760 Sure, sure, sure, And you. 1106 00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:51.559 Know there's the there's the like, oh, well, do you 1107 00:59:51.599 --> 00:59:53.199 watch the new Star Wars stuff? She's like, well, no, 1108 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:54.760 not really, Well why don't you watch it? You know 1109 00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:58.159 kind of thing like wow, she's entitled to not, you know, 1110 00:59:58.360 --> 01:00:00.880 like yeah, yeah, and you know, you can you get 1111 01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:02.960 the sense from her like well, I mean I've done 1112 01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:08.519 I did other stuff too. But all of this is 1113 01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:13.159 to say, certainly an essential part of that movie that 1114 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.599 the world fell in love with back then, right right, 1115 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:18.599 And as we hit the fiftieth anniversary of its release 1116 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.119 next year, what you realize is how so many of 1117 01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:26.119 the essential people are involved have have moved on, you know, 1118 01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:31.599 who were not going to get their tellings right, Gary Kurtz, 1119 01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:35.559 and you know obviously all of the actors who've passed on, 1120 01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:37.920 and you know, there is something that saddens me about that. 1121 01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:39.880 But then you're like, well, it's a fifty year old movie, 1122 01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:45.480 right right, I mean that's the equivalent of Wizard of 1123 01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:47.119 Oz when we were kids or something. You know. 1124 01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:49.639 Isn't fascinating, but it's one of those things that's just 1125 01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:50.400 never gone away. 1126 01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:51.800 Yeah, that's right. 1127 01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:57.519 Yeah, like a rare case, very rare. Yeah, yeah, you 1128 01:00:57.519 --> 01:00:58.719 know it that reminds me of a little bit. 1129 01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:02.079 Oh no, no, well, it's just that one point about 1130 01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:04.000 Wizard of Oz. Just given what we were just talking 1131 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.599 about prequels and stuff, it is fascinating to me that 1132 01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:10.400 Oz has had so many prequels and offshoots and whatnot, 1133 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.199 but they have never done a straight remake of Wizard 1134 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:16.920 of Oz. Yeah, right, And this is we've talked about this, 1135 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.519 I think, and it's like, what is it about that 1136 01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:24.239 movie that's like everybody it's like hands off and. 1137 01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:26.199 We understand, don't touch it. 1138 01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.519 Weird, right, Yeah, yeah, I don't know, I find that interesting. 1139 01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.400 Yeah. Now, I was going to say, was you know, 1140 01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:37.800 having Marcia Lucas be older now and kind of wanting 1141 01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.840 an opportunity to at least, you know, tell her story, 1142 01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:44.480 share her stories. That reminds me of that Paul Rubin's documentary. 1143 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:49.880 Ah yeah, recently pee Wee as himself and you very much. 1144 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.639 I mean, it's it's not like you get the sense. 1145 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.480 I mean he basically outright says it. For most of 1146 01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:57.440 his career. You know, people have loved pee Wee Herman, 1147 01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:01.360 but when they saw you know, the movie Peem's Big Adventure, 1148 01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:04.039 which everybody loves, written by Paul Rubins, nobody knows who 1149 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.400 that is. And he's like, no, that's me, Like I 1150 01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:08.920 worked really hard on that, and you don't even know 1151 01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:11.239 that I did that, you know. And so it's like 1152 01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:16.000 he wanted to not in an egotistical way, but he 1153 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:18.639 wanted to get a little credit, you know, like let 1154 01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:22.880 people know his story and what went into being this character, 1155 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:24.880 because that was like such a weird thing in the eighties, right, 1156 01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:27.679 whenever Pee Wee was on a talk show, it wasn't like, 1157 01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.119 here's Paul Rubins talking about Pee Wee Herman. He always 1158 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.719 appeared as pee Wee Herman in the movie credits for 1159 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:38.880 Pee's Big Adventure. Pee Wee Herman as himself. Right, And 1160 01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:40.960 so all these years later, I think Paul Rubens was 1161 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:42.760 looking back and we now know that he was ill, 1162 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:44.760 and I think he kind of wanted to have it 1163 01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.960 on record, like, my name is Paul Rubens, this was 1164 01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:49.679 my creation. I worked really hard on it, and I'm 1165 01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:53.000 glad you liked it. And that's what that documentary felt like. 1166 01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:56.920 And he even passes away while they're making the documentary. 1167 01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:58.480 I mean, that's how close to the end he was. 1168 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.760 And so you just get the sense that that was 1169 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:03.400 really important to him, just to have the record straight. 1170 01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:03.800 You know. 1171 01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:05.360 That's in that. 1172 01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:12.440 Something, right, like the the the the battle, the internal 1173 01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:17.679 battle of feeling pride that your creation, that your character 1174 01:03:17.880 --> 01:03:23.440 so beloved, coupled with the frustration of wanting people to 1175 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.519 know you're more than just that one character. Yeah, yeah, 1176 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:30.719 you know, it's it's it's tough. 1177 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:32.960 Yeah. You know. 1178 01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.400 One thing I did want to mention, and this is 1179 01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:38.599 only tangentially connected to things we talk about. I don't 1180 01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:40.639 know if you've been following the news out of CBS 1181 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:45.280 over the last couple of days, headlines, you know, it's 1182 01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:48.440 it's one of those moments where where you know you're 1183 01:03:48.519 --> 01:03:53.039 living through the legacy sequel of The Insider, right, right, 1184 01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:54.840 it's a weird thing to have happening. So, you know, 1185 01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.519 for those of you don't know, CBS News has been 1186 01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:05.079 overhaul over the last year because of various corporate agendas, 1187 01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:08.480 let's say, and they brought in an executive producer named 1188 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:12.119 or not editor in chief named Barry Wise, who overhauled 1189 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.360 CBS News, and they brought in somebody new and that 1190 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:17.239 show is languishing in the ratings. And then sixty Minutes, 1191 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:19.320 which has never been languishing in the ratings, always been 1192 01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:22.320 a big hit. They've in the last week they basically 1193 01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:28.039 just decapitated the whole production staff, the executive producers and whatnot, 1194 01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:32.440 and they've gotten rid of several of the correspondents, and 1195 01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.960 they brought in a new EP who has no broadcast 1196 01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:41.800 TV experience, and Scott Pelly, who's like a long time 1197 01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.039 CBS guy. He used to anchor the nightly news like 1198 01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:48.440 a couple of years ago. He's been at sixty Minutes 1199 01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:52.480 for good twenty plus years at this point. So he 1200 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.840 gets up there and he's like, you know, you you 1201 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:59.159 have no business running this show. And you know, Barry Wise, 1202 01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:01.559 she was brought into murder sixty minutes and that's what 1203 01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:05.760 she's doing, right, And I'm just picturing Christopher Plumber as 1204 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:08.840 Mike Wallace reading the Riot Act to the corporate people, 1205 01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:12.039 you know. And it's just weird because we are, in 1206 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:16.840 fact talking about sixty minutes still and it's like, well, 1207 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.360 if nothing else, you'd think the people involved would be like, well, 1208 01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:22.880 I don't want to be the bad guy in the 1209 01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:27.840 hypothetical Insider sequel if nothing else right. 1210 01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:30.679 Well, you would think, or at least that's how people 1211 01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:32.239 seem to used to think. 1212 01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:35.800 It's it's odd, but yeah, like I said, history doesn't repeat, 1213 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:37.480 but it rhymes. And so we are sort of living 1214 01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.440 through this moment right now. And this is something this 1215 01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.400 has been a hobby horse of mind for a long time. Look, 1216 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.280 journalism is important and if it goes away, we'll all 1217 01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:47.719 suffer the impact of it. And so this is this 1218 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:54.119 is something seismic that's happening right now because sixty minutes. 1219 01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:59.000 There's no excuse, right the show continues to be a powerhouse. 1220 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.760 So it is that you can't even claim, oh, we're 1221 01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:04.800 just trying to fix it because it's broken. No, no, 1222 01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:08.920 you're breaking it right so that you can claim what 1223 01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:12.840 you're doing is fixing it. Uh, and that's very scary 1224 01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:15.960 because to me that makes me say, well, what does 1225 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.639 a year from now look like at sixty minutes? And 1226 01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:22.079 by extension, all these other all these other news sources 1227 01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:24.159 that are that are trusted you know, by and large, 1228 01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:28.159 you know, new news and Brian, you may remember, this 1229 01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:31.400 news did not used to be partisan, right, right, used 1230 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:33.440 to just be you know, it's like, this is the news, 1231 01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:37.079 this is what's happening, you know, and and we're swiftly 1232 01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.840 losing that. We're seeing this shift where you have people 1233 01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:44.119 who have been cut loose from from legacy media, you know, 1234 01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:47.400 making their little purchase on YouTube and whatnot. Right, So 1235 01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:52.039 you've got you know, you know, Don Lemon and uh, 1236 01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:55.400 you know, Jim Acosta, whoever, like all these people, right 1237 01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.239 And and I'm like that's fine, good, right, if you're 1238 01:06:58.239 --> 01:06:59.079 able to keep working. 1239 01:06:59.159 --> 01:06:59.400 Good. 1240 01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:03.719 But the problem is it levels the playing field in 1241 01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.920 a way that's not necessarily helpful if you're trying to 1242 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:10.400 put out facts. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, right, 1243 01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:14.079 because because these big news organizations, by virtue of the 1244 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:17.719 fact that they have these established institutional legacy that that 1245 01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:20.519 allowed the ability to say no, this is true, and 1246 01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:24.880 they had a megaphone that was likely to reach a 1247 01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.000 greater distance. And when you take that away and you say, well, no, 1248 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:30.119 I'm just going to join the pool with all these 1249 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:32.880 people who've set up shop on YouTube, Well, how do 1250 01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:37.440 you stand out? How does an average person know the 1251 01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:40.320 difference between X talking head versus why talking head in 1252 01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:44.679 terms of agendas and whatnot? Right, It's like it's like, 1253 01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:48.400 you know, and I use this example in my classes. 1254 01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:48.800 I'm like. 1255 01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:53.119 You and I we know the difference between Time magazine 1256 01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:57.280 and some random like like there's Time magazine. Oh, we 1257 01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:59.559 know that's a real magazine, Newsweek, that's a real magazine. 1258 01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:01.559 News Well, that's not a thing, right. But if I 1259 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.719 tell somebody News Time, who doesn't know any better, those 1260 01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:07.159 like oh okay, guess it's a magazine, that's where we're 1261 01:08:07.159 --> 01:08:12.000 at now, right, because people buy and large don't know 1262 01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:16.479 these differences, don't know these distinctions, right. You know, if 1263 01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:19.640 you're just watching stuff on TikTok, then how do you 1264 01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:21.479 differentiate between who's credible and who's not? 1265 01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.520 Yeah, losing these things are sad. 1266 01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:30.239 Yeah, And I feel like periodically on this show we're 1267 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.399 doing sort of like death wash for for traditional journalism, 1268 01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:39.560 and and that's you know, sad saddens me certainly as 1269 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.720 as somebody who works in journalism and loves it and 1270 01:08:44.239 --> 01:08:46.520 knows how important it is. You know, if it goes away, 1271 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:50.760 we'll all we'll all be impacted. Yeah, definitely. So that's 1272 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:53.800 like a TVD. We're gonna keep checking in on that one. 1273 01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:55.479 I have a feeling we'll put a pin in that one. 1274 01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:59.479 We will absolutely put a pin. But we've got something 1275 01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:01.760 more important discuss at this very moment. 1276 01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.239 And now we're pleased to bring our feature. 1277 01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.119 And we are back. And you know who else is back? Brian, 1278 01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.840 who's that Zechy? Why it's Adam, Prince of Eternia. 1279 01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:21.760 Hey, it's been a while. 1280 01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:26.199 It has indeed, he's He's shown up every once in 1281 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:28.840 a while, but nobody else has paid attention this show. 1282 01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:32.199 You have though, you've you've always uh checked in with 1283 01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.920 the Masters of the Universe. Universe. 1284 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:39.359 I'm I'm among the few, the proud. Yes, Masters of 1285 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:42.439 the Universe is in theaters as we are recording this, 1286 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.600 and it's probably gonna be out of theaters by the 1287 01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:46.479 time you're listening to this. 1288 01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.800 I'm just guessing. You know, it's funny. I feel like, 1289 01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:54.079 for a while, just because of our schedules, we've been 1290 01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:59.760 recording our you know, conversations after release weekend, so we 1291 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:02.119 kind of have an idea of how the world has 1292 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:05.399 received the thing we're talking about. Yeah, but this is 1293 01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:08.720 like right as it's about to open, so we don't 1294 01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:12.119 know exactly how this is going to perform. I mean, 1295 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:18.079 I have my fears, but it's kind of it's kind 1296 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:19.920 of interesting. I actually haven't even read a lot of 1297 01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:23.479 reviews about this, so I just kind of have my feelings. 1298 01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:30.079 Well, I'm I'm looking at I'm looking at Deadline. Here 1299 01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:34.199 it says Manchester Universe is best with guys over twenty 1300 01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:37.239 five franchise had it sayday in the eighties and over. 1301 01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:39.680 Forty Let's see. 1302 01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:48.239 Uh, it's looking at twenty million dollars abroad and between 1303 01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:52.279 twenty five and thirty five domestically for its opening weekend, 1304 01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:58.439 which would be catastrophic for a movie with a around 1305 01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:01.840 two hundred and eighty two hundred million dollar budget. Yeah, 1306 01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:03.119 not not ideal. 1307 01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:07.000 And for a movie that I fear may not have legs. 1308 01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:10.199 That's gonna be an interesting one. Yeah, I'm I'm very cure. 1309 01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:14.600 I suspect you're right, because even if word of mouth 1310 01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:16.600 is good, I mean, there's just a lot of you know, 1311 01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:18.159 there's a lot of competition, there's. 1312 01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.039 A lot of things going on. Yeah, and it seems 1313 01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:22.840 like the young's out there are watching all these you know, 1314 01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:26.960 horror movies, right, the obsession and back rooms and all that, 1315 01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:29.760 and it's you know what I mean, like, that's that's 1316 01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.640 the audience you need to be showing up for this. 1317 01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:36.680 Well that that's that's really the key thing. Yeah. So 1318 01:11:36.680 --> 01:11:42.960 so ultimately, as I have said often on this show, hey, 1319 01:11:43.239 --> 01:11:45.159 that movie an't coming out of my pocket. Ain't going 1320 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:48.359 into my pocket. Sure, sure, all I got to say 1321 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:50.399 is whether I think it's good or not, So we 1322 01:11:50.439 --> 01:11:52.760 can have that conversation. But yes, just as a he 1323 01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:55.039 Man fan from from the time I was a little 1324 01:11:55.119 --> 01:11:57.640 Wei one, I would like it to do well, just 1325 01:11:57.680 --> 01:12:00.119 to just to show that there's still juice left in 1326 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:02.239 this But you know. 1327 01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:05.600 I agree, and I mean without any spoilers, I mean, 1328 01:12:05.640 --> 01:12:07.479 the things that it sets up, I'm like, I want to. 1329 01:12:07.479 --> 01:12:11.640 See that that is true. Yeah, yeah, specific yeah right, 1330 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:15.439 we'll talk about that. Yeah, So we have not talked 1331 01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.960 about our thoughts on the film, although you read my review. 1332 01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:20.760 I did. I couldn't help myself. 1333 01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:25.680 You have me at a disadvantage. But I suspect and 1334 01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:28.359 correct me if I'm wrong that we landed somewhere in 1335 01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:36.039 the same vicinity as each other. Yeah, I think so, well, well, 1336 01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:38.560 I'll just say this, I mean before we even get 1337 01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:42.520 into it, Like, I'm watching it again about an hour 1338 01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:45.640 and fifteen minutes from now. Okay, So that's how much 1339 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:46.560 I liked. 1340 01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:51.479 I hope I get to catch it again. You know, 1341 01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:55.640 I really enjoyed this movie a lot. I will say this, 1342 01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:59.000 though I wasn't sure about it. In the first half. 1343 01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:05.640 It starts off kind of doing that Marvel yuck yuck humor, 1344 01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:09.640 you know what I mean, where it's like, if we 1345 01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:12.560 even like hint that we're taking any of this seriously, 1346 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.239 we're gonna lose everybody. So we've got to undercut everything 1347 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:18.359 we say. Yeah, And I was like, look, I get that, 1348 01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:21.319 and you're it's probably the right instinct. But I thought 1349 01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:24.159 it was dialed a little high at the beginning, and 1350 01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:29.800 I was a little worried, not gonna lie, but I was. 1351 01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.399 I was enjoying it. I was enjoying seeing Adam on Earth. Well, 1352 01:13:33.399 --> 01:13:35.159 I enjoyed the set up at the beginning. I enjoyed 1353 01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:40.920 Adam on Earth. I enjoyed the hero's journey of it. Frankly, 1354 01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:44.079 you know, with with he Man, I thought that was 1355 01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:47.680 all sturdy and fun for me. The second half is 1356 01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:51.279 where this movie really locked in interesting, and I was like, 1357 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:56.600 I love this. Like this it turned into the he 1358 01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:01.319 Man cartoon, Like it was like unabashedly the he Man cartoon. 1359 01:14:02.239 --> 01:14:04.640 It like more and more and more even as it 1360 01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:07.920 went along that by the time it ended, I was 1361 01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:11.600 in like smiling so big that like I didn't even 1362 01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:13.479 care about the things that I wasn't so sure about, 1363 01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.279 And it made me want to rewatch it again because 1364 01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:16.840 I thought, now that I kind of get what it 1365 01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.000 is as a whole, I wonder if I might even 1366 01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:22.439 be more generous right with the whole thing on a 1367 01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:25.000 second viewing. But I walked out it with a huge 1368 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.520 smile on my face. I don't I don't think this 1369 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:32.439 is going to be for everybody, honestly, like, but I 1370 01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:36.640 just loved that it was so proudly and unabashedly a 1371 01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:37.600 he Man movie. 1372 01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:40.600 So I agree with you, it's it's not going to 1373 01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:42.880 be for everybody, but that you know that that sentiment, 1374 01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:46.319 you know, that can apply widely to to all types 1375 01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:52.319 of films. I think the key thing though, is, at 1376 01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:55.479 least for me, and feel free to disagree. The question 1377 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.640 I had is if somebody's just coming in completely cold, 1378 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:04.359 is there are there enough hooks to bring them on 1379 01:15:04.399 --> 01:15:07.560 that journey? And I think this movie accomplishes that. 1380 01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:12.399 Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, at the beginning, I wasn't sure. Yeah. 1381 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:14.760 I was actually thinking about my parents. I was like, 1382 01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:16.720 did they enjoy this because they knew I was seeing 1383 01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:18.479 it that night and they were like, I'll tell us 1384 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:22.640 how it is, And I wasn't sure. This was my experience, 1385 01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:25.520 And then by the end I was like, I think 1386 01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:27.600 most people will walk out of this with a big 1387 01:15:27.600 --> 01:15:29.039 smile on their face. Right. 1388 01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:31.479 So that's that's where I feel like word of mouth 1389 01:15:31.560 --> 01:15:33.720 is really going to be be key, because I think 1390 01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:36.560 people who who decide to check it out, I they'll 1391 01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:42.600 they'll at least enjoy it if they have an inclination 1392 01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.720 for this type of thing, you know. I think that 1393 01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:50.680 for me, the the way it evokes the cartoon like 1394 01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:52.880 you were talking about partly like this is like soir 1395 01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:56.119 Travis Knight, right, who who you know, he started with 1396 01:15:56.119 --> 01:15:57.760 with Leaka and he did you know, cool in the 1397 01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:00.720 Two Strings of Animation. But he did Bumblebee. That was 1398 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:05.039 his first live action movie, and Bumblebee it took like, 1399 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.840 you know, forty five seconds into that movie to be like, Oh, 1400 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:09.840 this guy knows what he's doing. 1401 01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:13.079 It's funny you say that because I forgot that he 1402 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.279 did that movie. I like that movie, and my family 1403 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:18.279 watched it together at Christmas and we all enjoyed it 1404 01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.119 so above and beyond just being. 1405 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:26.600 A good fantasy film, very heavily Spielberg influenced, right, yeah, yeah, 1406 01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:33.479 but he locked in on the iconography of transformers in 1407 01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.159 a way that the Michael Bay films never did, right 1408 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:41.279 because from Michael Bay didn't have that affinity for transformers. 1409 01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:45.880 It wasn't his thing. But for Travis Knight, it was right. 1410 01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:48.319 And so when I heard he was directing this, I 1411 01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:51.000 was like, well, they got the right guy, obviously, and 1412 01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:54.399 so it was gratifying to see that initial confidence born 1413 01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:59.239 out he got it. You know, I also think, I 1414 01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:03.039 mean it's true, right because because you know, I watched 1415 01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:06.039 the old filmation cartoons fairly often used with my kids, 1416 01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:10.079 you know, and you know, he mans as a character. 1417 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:15.520 I mean, he's kind of square, right, There's not a 1418 01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:17.760 ton of growth you can have that character go through. 1419 01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:19.960 Although there's a few episodes where they actually have him 1420 01:17:20.840 --> 01:17:22.960 experience something meaningful. But you know, that was kind of 1421 01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:24.640 my thing, like how do you make he Man interesting? 1422 01:17:24.680 --> 01:17:26.760 You know, we talked, we just watched the nineteen eighty 1423 01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:28.399 seven movie, and we're like, he Man is like the 1424 01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:30.800 least interesting character in this he Man movie, right right, 1425 01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:37.960 I think bye bye. By centering the film on this 1426 01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:40.159 notion of what does it mean to be a man, 1427 01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:44.840 and that's sort of Adam's journey, I think it gives 1428 01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:48.199 us somewhere to start and somewhere to end. And that's 1429 01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:49.680 always you know, you hear me say this all the time. 1430 01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:52.439 I'm like, what's what's the emotional journey that we're going on? 1431 01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:55.520 Then I'll go with you on all the rasmntas. And 1432 01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:59.159 I feel like that I was gratified by that same. Yeah, 1433 01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:02.920 you know, I found all that stuff worked. Like I think, 1434 01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:05.239 I think Adam gets a great journey. I think Man 1435 01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:07.600 at Arms has a terrific character journey. 1436 01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:10.960 Yep. Yeah, they share a moment later in the movie 1437 01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:14.079 that I was really touched by and laughed at and 1438 01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:15.520 that was really fun. 1439 01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:19.439 I think Camila Mendez as Tila, I think I think 1440 01:18:19.479 --> 01:18:24.520 she gets she gets like, you know, uh, substantial stuff 1441 01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:29.600 to do right above being just like warrior girl. And 1442 01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:32.479 I'll say, I don't know if this is like controversial, 1443 01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:36.720 I thought Jared Letto was great eskeletor you know. I 1444 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:39.800 feel like, however, I will say before you even say 1445 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:43.239 if it's no place, please, I will say that I 1446 01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:48.159 think his characterization was good. However, it could have been 1447 01:18:48.239 --> 01:18:51.399 like literally anybody there is. 1448 01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:57.079 Yeah, that's acknowledge that. I look forward to watching it 1449 01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:02.439 again because I feel like he felt a little just 1450 01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:05.520 flat at the beginning. 1451 01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:10.000 To me, he was like a mix of of Franklingella 1452 01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:13.000 and filmation and they just like merged him together and 1453 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:13.760 you got this guy. 1454 01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:16.000 Well. I feel like maybe I'm wrong, and maybe it's 1455 01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:18.039 just because that was his introduction. But as the movie 1456 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:23.159 went along, he became more and more funny and interesting. Sure. Sure, 1457 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:27.439 And at the beginning, yeah, it wasn't like a distinctive voice. 1458 01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:30.560 It was just some guy doing like a sort of 1459 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:34.079 British affectation kind of thing and rolling his rs right, 1460 01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:37.000 And I was like, okay, like I wasn't thinking much 1461 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:38.920 of it. But as the movie went along, then he 1462 01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:42.560 got a little quirkier and his interactions with Evil Linn 1463 01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:45.000 and you know, the way he would react to certain 1464 01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:47.479 things when they didn't go his way. Then I started 1465 01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:50.960 to really like the character more, like he kind of 1466 01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:52.880 grew on me over the course of the movie. 1467 01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:55.079 I agree with that. I know I would agree with that. 1468 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:59.000 I think in that sense I'm thinking about just overall 1469 01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:00.760 my experience with the character. But yeah, I mean, I 1470 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:03.000 think what you're saying is fair. I think, and I 1471 01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:06.000 noted this in my review. I mean, they way mixed 1472 01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:07.439 him down his voice. 1473 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.880 I was so glad you actually pointed that out in 1474 01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:12.479 your review because there were a couple of lines that 1475 01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:13.399 I didn't catch. 1476 01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:19.920 Yeah, because it Yeah, it was like just let him 1477 01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:22.600 do whatever he was doing without having it was like 1478 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:26.159 you know Orson Wells in the Transformers movie, where they 1479 01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:32.000 they just you know, they post produced it so much, right, Yeah. 1480 01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:34.039 Yeah, and it almost maybe that's part of what it 1481 01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.319 is that I'm feeling but not quite being able to 1482 01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:38.439 put into words, like they sort of stripped it of 1483 01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:42.800 like just a bit more even personality, right, Like he 1484 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:44.920 was saying funny things, and it was funny hearing him 1485 01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:47.520 say those things his way. But I feel like just 1486 01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:50.439 giving him a little bit more nuance would have made 1487 01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:55.760 him feel even more interesting. But I feel like it 1488 01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:58.760 got that way more as the movie went along, and 1489 01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:01.359 then he started saying funnier things, and. 1490 01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:06.199 See what what what I liked was the the utter 1491 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:07.880 lack of nuance for this character. 1492 01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:11.239 Yeah, or even I like him being broad. No, don't 1493 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:12.760 get me wrong, Yeah, I like him being broad, but 1494 01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:14.520 even just to the I mean just to the voice, 1495 01:21:14.560 --> 01:21:16.159 to the performance. Yeah. 1496 01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:19.600 Sorry, But but right away when people heard Jared Letto 1497 01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:22.319 had been cast, it was like the the ritual rending 1498 01:21:22.359 --> 01:21:25.800 of garments and stuff, right, and that this is my 1499 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:29.600 thing with Jared Letto. I'm I'm I'm, I would say overall, 1500 01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:35.640 in general, I'm a net neutral on most Jared Letto work, right, Yeah, 1501 01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:38.800 Like we talked about tron areas, like I thought he was. 1502 01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:41.119 I didn't think he was bad. I didn't think he 1503 01:21:41.439 --> 01:21:44.439 brought anything extra either. He was a net neutral. I 1504 01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:48.079 feel like in this one there was a little personality 1505 01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:50.239 he brought in where I have to acknowledge, Well, I 1506 01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:53.279 don't think he was bad. He certainly you can't if 1507 01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:54.760 they're failings to the movie. I don't think you can 1508 01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:56.640 be like, oh, well, Jared Letto, you know, kills everything 1509 01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:59.880 he touches. I don't think that's the case. No. But 1510 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.680 but when you hear it's Jared Leedley, you're like, well, 1511 01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:06.439 maybe they're gonna show like before he became skeletors. 1512 01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:08.560 Oh yeah, that's that was my thought. 1513 01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:10.800 And no, they don't do that. 1514 01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:15.000 No, was he on set? Like is he actually is 1515 01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:15.800 that his body? 1516 01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:17.640 Like that's what Alison Brees said, he showed up, he 1517 01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:20.479 rubbed blood on his face or whatever stupid goddamn Jared 1518 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:23.720 leto thing that he inevitably does. 1519 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:28.079 Dead rats and boxes and yeah, you know rap gifts. 1520 01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:33.720 Yeah you know, so, yes, that was him. Although it's 1521 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:35.840 it's a remarkable motion capture creation. 1522 01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:38.359 I see, I see, I see, I see. 1523 01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:41.279 That's the thing, is I you know, one thing I've 1524 01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:43.159 seen a lot of is like, this movie seems very 1525 01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:49.239 embarrassed by itself and and I can't see that. I 1526 01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:51.439 can see that interpretation. But to me, I'm like, I 1527 01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:53.279 don't think you can look at the characters in this 1528 01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:55.800 movie and say it feels embarrassed by itself. I was 1529 01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:59.359 gonna say I couldn't disagree more right, Like, like for me, 1530 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:03.720 I suppose like there's a there's a moment which I 1531 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:05.399 found pretty fun, to be honest. I don't think this 1532 01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:08.359 is a spoiler, but like, you know, the plot hinges 1533 01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:11.000 on this idea that Adam was whisked away from attorney 1534 01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.239 as a child and he comes back, right, and now 1535 01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:16.960 he's reintroduced all these people and he's like, you man, 1536 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:20.119 you're you're a ram man and you're Fisto. And they're like, 1537 01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:23.039 that's not our name, guy, you know. And I thought 1538 01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:23.960 that was hilarious. 1539 01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.239 I thought it was pretty brilliant, to be honest, right, 1540 01:23:26.640 --> 01:23:29.760 because that's his ten or even eight or whatever he was, 1541 01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:31.840 that's his eight year old memory of these people. Oh, 1542 01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:36.079 the guy the iron fist So I called you Fisto exactly. 1543 01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:38.720 He's got these childish names. 1544 01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:40.760 Because you look at the names of the toys, right, 1545 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:42.920 they're like, well that that is kind of a silly name, 1546 01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:43.159 you know. 1547 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:43.800 Yeah. Yeah. 1548 01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:45.960 And so I suppose you can say, oh, this is 1549 01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.000 the movie's just embarrassed of itself. And I'm like, well 1550 01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:50.119 you can do that, or you can be very triumphally. 1551 01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:52.159 I am Fisto. And I feel like that's worse. 1552 01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:55.920 I know, I agree, and they do do the thing. Yeah, 1553 01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:58.840 we're like, well that's that's you know, that's a silly 1554 01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.479 sort of name. But like, I don't know, there's the 1555 01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:03.800 version of that where you feel like the movie is 1556 01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:05.600 embarrassed of itself, Like we talk about that in the 1557 01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:08.399 superhero movies, where they always have to dismiss their costumes 1558 01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:11.399 or their names or something. This felt different to me. 1559 01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:15.720 I agree with that, And these things are ten times 1560 01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:19.199 sillier then yellow and blue costumes, these names, you know, 1561 01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:25.359 ram Man and yeah, yes, exactly. So I thought that 1562 01:24:25.399 --> 01:24:26.960 was a pretty clever idea. 1563 01:24:27.359 --> 01:24:28.000 I thought it was. 1564 01:24:28.039 --> 01:24:28.800 I thought that worked. 1565 01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:31.319 And I think and I noted this in my review too, 1566 01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:35.600 I think the movie very smartly just ignores the secret 1567 01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:39.600 identity of it all. Sure, all right, because this is 1568 01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:41.640 the thing where you're like, you look at Superman, You're like, 1569 01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:44.479 how come nobody recognizes when he puts on his glasses. 1570 01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:47.039 It's like, okay, well he man, hold my beers that 1571 01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:50.960 oh Adam takes off his shirt and gets a tan 1572 01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:53.279 and nobody recognizes him, you know, right right, And I 1573 01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:55.760 think it's like I remember going into this being like 1574 01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:58.439 there is no good way to like, you just can't 1575 01:24:58.479 --> 01:25:01.520 do the secret identity. Yeah, so I think that was 1576 01:25:01.560 --> 01:25:04.800 a smart way to go. But but I think we 1577 01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:07.680 haven't talked at all about Nicholas Galaxy as Adam and 1578 01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:11.439 he Man. A couple things. First of all, I mean, 1579 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:14.760 the guy put on some muscle for this role, right, like. 1580 01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:16.760 You see good he looks like an action figure. 1581 01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.279 He he does. But what's interesting is that as Adam, 1582 01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:25.439 he's able to play him as kind of dumpy. Yeah 1583 01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:28.439 yeah right, and it's just he slouches and I and 1584 01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:31.920 you know, I was thinking of like Chris Reeve as 1585 01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:35.039 Clark Kent, you know, where he just he his physicality 1586 01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:40.479 is just different as Adam. And then when you see 1587 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:44.600 him become he Man, I mean his his whole posture 1588 01:25:44.600 --> 01:25:50.720 everything changes, and uh, the the way he looks as 1589 01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:52.319 he Man, You're like, well that is he Man? 1590 01:25:52.479 --> 01:25:55.439 You know, oh totally. I mean I got chills honestly 1591 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:56.039 when he the. 1592 01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:58.399 First time he becomes he Man, I was like, man, 1593 01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:03.079 this is like the movie you know, forty plus years 1594 01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:04.399 ago I wanted to see, you know. 1595 01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:07.359 Like literally, I mean this is That's why I say 1596 01:26:07.359 --> 01:26:09.720 when people are saying it feels like it's embarrassed by itself. 1597 01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.000 We'll get into spoilers in a bit, but I mean 1598 01:26:12.039 --> 01:26:14.640 where this movie winds up in everything that it does 1599 01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:19.239 and shows us like this is the cartoon. Yeah, you know, 1600 01:26:19.399 --> 01:26:22.159 like in the best possible way. This is like what yeah, 1601 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:26.079 seven year old Brian wanted to see when he was seven. Yeah, 1602 01:26:26.119 --> 01:26:28.319 that's right in my theater. By the way, was like 1603 01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:32.319 eating it up, really laughing at everything, applauding it. I 1604 01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:36.800 have the power. So what was yours like it? Well? 1605 01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:37.479 It was fun. 1606 01:26:37.479 --> 01:26:39.800 I mean you know there's a big ground of applause 1607 01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:40.439 when it ended. 1608 01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:41.680 Mmm. 1609 01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:47.199 So they were definitely feeling that. I think that you 1610 01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:52.600 know that there's there's a lot of like in the 1611 01:26:52.640 --> 01:26:57.039 front end, you know, looking at at how he's he's 1612 01:26:57.119 --> 01:26:59.840 just fundamentally unhappy in his job, and you know he's 1613 01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:04.319 working hr whatever he's doing, right, Yeah, And I found 1614 01:27:04.359 --> 01:27:05.960 all that funny. But I will say, if there's a 1615 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:09.199 critique I have, I almost wonder if it would have 1616 01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:14.920 been worth showing him being really good at what he does, yeah, 1617 01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:18.239 like resolving differences and stuff like this is like he's 1618 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:20.000 very like, yes, he wants to get home, but he's 1619 01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:23.000 also like this is something he is good at. 1620 01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:25.800 I completely agree with that, because basically they try to 1621 01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:30.159 turn corporate office speak into sort of a joke, that's right. 1622 01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:34.119 And so when he does office speak, you know, to 1623 01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:39.279 these mythical heroic characters, it feels silly, right, But I 1624 01:27:39.319 --> 01:27:41.560 agree with you. I kind of wish we had seen that. 1625 01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:43.920 It's like, no, he actually has Yes, he's very distracted 1626 01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:45.920 by you know, trying to find the sword while he's 1627 01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:49.319 on Earth, but yeah, that's his strength. He was never 1628 01:27:50.119 --> 01:27:53.439 like a warrior type, right, but he is good with people. 1629 01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:58.159 Yeah, because because to me, you know, the film starts 1630 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:01.239 with sort of this this idea, Oh, he's this kid 1631 01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:06.239 and his dad, the king is like, oh he he 1632 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:08.279 you know, he's like wrong, son died kind of thing, 1633 01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:11.439 you know, a little bit like oh he's not a man, 1634 01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:14.279 you know basically right, Yeah, yeah, and I would have 1635 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:18.119 I mean, the movie does gesture towards him and sort 1636 01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:19.640 of like, well, what does it mean to be a man? 1637 01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:22.279 What does masculinity mean? Right? 1638 01:28:23.439 --> 01:28:26.640 And I applaud what it tries to do because because 1639 01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:30.479 it's not like, no, being masculine means being macho and muscular, 1640 01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:33.720 and no, I mean I think he man has a 1641 01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:36.640 sensitivity he had in the show. In the old show, 1642 01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:41.960 he had that too, right, Yeah, you know. I mean 1643 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:44.199 I was just watching an episode the other day, you know, 1644 01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:47.239 and it's like, oh, you know, Merman is going after 1645 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:49.600 Tela or whatever, and then Merman is in danger and 1646 01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:55.000 he Man saves him, and and Tila was like, why'd 1647 01:28:55.039 --> 01:28:56.640 you save him? You know, and He's like, because because 1648 01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:59.600 every life is worth saving and that stuff. You know. 1649 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:01.279 I mean obviously I just sort of took it in 1650 01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:03.199 as a kid, but as as a grown up, I 1651 01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:09.039 appreciate that a lot, that that that message is always important. Yeah, 1652 01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:13.600 and so you know, he Man was always you know, 1653 01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.239 sensitive in that way. You know, he wasn't just a 1654 01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:21.640 barbarian with an axe and a sword. So this isn't like, oh, 1655 01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:22.479 woke he Man. 1656 01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:22.760 You know. 1657 01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:26.680 So I like that they leaned into that. I think 1658 01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:32.319 I just would have liked I would have liked them 1659 01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:36.079 to square the circle more on that, you know, because 1660 01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:40.199 we we kind of like, you know, well we'll talk 1661 01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:42.840 about this in spoilers, but you know, it feels like 1662 01:29:42.840 --> 01:29:45.600 there's unresolved issues that he has that I don't think 1663 01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:47.760 fully get addressed. Does that make sense? 1664 01:29:47.960 --> 01:29:52.399 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, well do we do we want to 1665 01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:57.479 get into it spoiler. 1666 01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:04.960 Well, one thing I'll say before before you can get 1667 01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:08.439 into your thing. Not nearly enough battle Cat. It's very disappointing. 1668 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:12.880 I yes, there's a moment where he actually says, I 1669 01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:15.039 guess I'll get in the armor next time or something 1670 01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:16.920 like that, and I was like, ah, don't do that. 1671 01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:19.920 And so then later when we do see him in 1672 01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:23.439 the armor, because I had the you know, the battle 1673 01:30:23.439 --> 01:30:26.720 Cat with that red armor and everything, and like just 1674 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.680 seeing him on screen, I was like wow, Like I 1675 01:30:29.680 --> 01:30:32.000 didn't realize I was going to have those feelings watching 1676 01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:34.640 this movie, but it was pretty exciting. It was brief, 1677 01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:35.399 but exciting. 1678 01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:39.760 Yeah, I agree, yeah, go ahead. 1679 01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:42.399 No, well, I guess we could have said this during 1680 01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:45.880 non spoilers. But the score is super fun. 1681 01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:49.399 Like, dude, great score Brian may on guitar. Yeah, it's 1682 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.039 very like flash Gordony, Oh yeah, big time. 1683 01:30:51.960 --> 01:30:54.800 You know. I mean, well literally Queen plays that's right, 1684 01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.640 you know, during the movie. But when we see some 1685 01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:01.159 of the first action happening and it's like rock music, 1686 01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.279 kind of like eighties rock music and drums and guitars, 1687 01:31:04.279 --> 01:31:07.199 I was like, yes, this is correct, Like this is 1688 01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:09.279 this is what this is. Like, I don't want to 1689 01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:12.680 hear some sort of Lord of the Rings self serious score. 1690 01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:16.560 This is fun, you know what I mean, Like we're 1691 01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:19.880 having fun. And that's why what I was saying earlier, 1692 01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:25.159 I do feel like this movie embraced its fun, you know, aspects, 1693 01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:27.520 and that the planet is colorful. And then by the end, 1694 01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:31.439 they're wearing literally their costumes from the cartoon, right, and 1695 01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:34.479 Orco shows up, you know what I mean, and Orco 1696 01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:39.199 talks to the audience and reiterates the lesson of the movie. 1697 01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:45.920 Like I mean, I was so delighted by all of that. Yeah, 1698 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:47.680 And you know, I have always talked about how I 1699 01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:51.159 like fourth wall breaks when they're doing the meme and 1700 01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:55.479 they're all laughing, like leaning back and cackling, laughing together 1701 01:31:56.239 --> 01:31:59.199 and cringers, like what the heck is going on? And 1702 01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:02.640 he like looks at the camera. I died. I died laughing. 1703 01:32:04.319 --> 01:32:08.960 So I like that it embraced its silliness. Yeah, you know, 1704 01:32:09.279 --> 01:32:12.359 but like you said, there was a real uh you know, 1705 01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:15.960 arc to it, and themes and and good characters and 1706 01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:18.199 so it's I just felt like it was a great package. 1707 01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:19.720 I liked that it didn't feel like it had to 1708 01:32:19.720 --> 01:32:22.840 be well, you know, it's got to be a little 1709 01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:24.880 bit more Lord of the Rings in the cartoon because 1710 01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:27.199 people won't take it seriously. Otherwise it's like no, they 1711 01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:29.960 just let it be what it actually is. And like 1712 01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:33.399 you said, I hope people catch on to it and 1713 01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:36.840 enjoy that. But if not, we do have a really 1714 01:32:37.199 --> 01:32:39.239 pretty great he Man movie. 1715 01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:41.479 That that was my thought. I was like, would I 1716 01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:43.520 like a sequel? Absolutely, but you know, we got this 1717 01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:46.880 one and it's pretty pretty good, you know. I honestly 1718 01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:52.520 this seems like another John Carter Rocketeer, you know, Dick 1719 01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:53.760 Tracy situation. 1720 01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:55.319 All movies I love. 1721 01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:58.479 Yeah, I mean, and like, these are movies that will 1722 01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:00.520 be watched. You know, I would add like The Phantom 1723 01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:01.199 to that list. 1724 01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:01.439 You know. 1725 01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:03.920 Sure, It's just you know that movie is thirty years old. 1726 01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:05.319 Dungeons and Dragons. 1727 01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:08.159 Dungeons and Dragons, there's another one. Yeah, this very this, 1728 01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:10.640 you know what. My brother when I was driving home, 1729 01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:12.680 he's like, what, like, what did you think of it? 1730 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:13.880 I said, Hey, I liked it, I said. 1731 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:14.319 I said. 1732 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:18.880 It's I said, it's like Flash Gordon meets Thor, Ragnarok 1733 01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:21.960 meets I said, Flash Gordon meets Dungeons and Dragons meets 1734 01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:25.199 Thor Ragnarok if star Lord was Thor. 1735 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:31.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah right, you know. 1736 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:33.800 And and my brother it is funny because I had 1737 01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:36.720 lunch at the yesterday. He's like, yeah, I totally got it, 1738 01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:39.279 like I did all the math. As you were talking, 1739 01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:42.039 I was like, yeah, I want to see it, you know. Yeah, 1740 01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:47.199 And it's tricky, you know. I again, I just I 1741 01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:50.520 don't know that. What I said in my review is 1742 01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:54.239 making this movie in nineteen in twenty twenty six is 1743 01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:58.359 like making a major Matt Mason movie in the nineteen eighties. 1744 01:33:58.399 --> 01:33:59.840 And for those of you who are like, what what's 1745 01:33:59.840 --> 01:34:02.479 a Matt Mason? That was a Mattel toy line in 1746 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:07.479 the sixties, which you know, it was long gone by 1747 01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:08.319 the time we grew up. 1748 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:10.479 Like back then, my dad might be like, oh, I 1749 01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:14.159 remember that, that's exactly. But I wasn't gonna go drag 1750 01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:16.399 my parents to the theater to go watch Matt Mason movie. 1751 01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:18.800 Now, I will say I took my two older ones 1752 01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:22.079 there nineteen and seventeen. They both liked it, like unabashedly, 1753 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:22.640 they liked. 1754 01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:23.439 Oh good good. 1755 01:34:23.560 --> 01:34:25.439 They're like that was good, you know, And they weren't 1756 01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:27.880 just trying to trying to, you know, make their old 1757 01:34:27.960 --> 01:34:33.000 man feel feel better about his life choices. Yeah, you 1758 01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:40.960 know so, I think that to your point, like it tonally, 1759 01:34:41.079 --> 01:34:42.800 it had a bit of a balancing act to do, 1760 01:34:42.840 --> 01:34:48.039 and I think it managed to stay on balance, which 1761 01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:50.720 is no easy feat because I mean, you're talking about 1762 01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:58.600 fundamentally a universe where you have to balance the fantasy 1763 01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:01.439 elements with the sci fi eye elements, and and it's 1764 01:35:01.479 --> 01:35:05.479 all it's all meant to sell toys anyway, But how 1765 01:35:05.479 --> 01:35:07.720 do you give it heart? You know, right, I think 1766 01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:08.159 they do that. 1767 01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:14.279 I agree, and I liked how I mean, I guess 1768 01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:16.920 this is just inherent to the story itself, but just 1769 01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:21.000 how more bonkers it got as it went along. I mean, 1770 01:35:21.039 --> 01:35:23.640 obviously things change once they're on Eternia and you've got 1771 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.720 spaceships and which I enjoyed all that stuff. But I 1772 01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:31.960 liked where Skeletor goes into he man's mind and he 1773 01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:34.439 is then in the restaurant Adam. 1774 01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:35.760 I really liked that sequence. 1775 01:35:36.039 --> 01:35:38.560 And dude, when he was in the office and he 1776 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.680 was wearing that button up, short sleeved shirts and he 1777 01:35:41.760 --> 01:35:44.880 had a tie that had bones on it. That's right, 1778 01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:47.560 I think I might even said out loud, it has 1779 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:54.399 bones on it. That's funny. That's so funny. Yeah, yeah, 1780 01:35:54.479 --> 01:35:56.960 I think maybe that's even it now that I'm thinking 1781 01:35:56.960 --> 01:35:58.920 about it. Why I say that I locked in on 1782 01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:01.560 the second half. Maybe I didn't know what it was 1783 01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:02.000 doing it. 1784 01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.079 First, That's right, that's a good observation. 1785 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:07.439 Yeah, and I might watch it differently the second time, 1786 01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:09.600 even though, like I said, when it ended, I was like, 1787 01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:11.760 big smile on my face. This was a lot of fun. 1788 01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:16.800 But yeah, I like, yeah, that Adam too, like the 1789 01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:18.840 fact that they let him be kind of dopey. I 1790 01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:22.239 was watching him on Earth not just be this kind 1791 01:36:22.239 --> 01:36:25.239 of handsome guy with big biceps who's just trying to 1792 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:27.479 make his way. But he's a little awkward in the 1793 01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:30.359 way that you know, the girl and she's all that's 1794 01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:31.960 awkward just because she's wearing glasses. 1795 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:36.479 That's the funny, because the movie starts with him on 1796 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:39.720 a blind date, yes, and he just sort of you know, 1797 01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:43.319 the whole intro voiceover, back narration is just him telling 1798 01:36:43.319 --> 01:36:46.239 this girl. And it's funny because you're like, look, Nicholas 1799 01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:50.840 Gallat seeing certainly this movie isn't objectively godlike human being. 1800 01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:54.000 You know, and so like that's the bye where this 1801 01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:58.720 girl wouldn't just like sort of nod politely because he's 1802 01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:00.239 so handsome, you know, I. 1803 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:05.279 Mean, right, yeah, but he's he's embarrassing himself, that's right. 1804 01:37:05.319 --> 01:37:08.039 And I was a little surprised, and I liked it 1805 01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:10.279 because it really endeared me to him and just how 1806 01:37:11.359 --> 01:37:14.199 he's like, no, I remember this, this happened to me, 1807 01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:15.760 and this is important and I'm going to get back 1808 01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:17.520 there someday. And it made me really want him to 1809 01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:19.520 get back. Yeah, yep, you know. 1810 01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:25.479 Yeah, I think that the whole, the whole, you know, 1811 01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:30.439 the idea of you have a destiny. You've been told 1812 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:33.840 you're the one who can you know, the sword will 1813 01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:35.720 bring you back like every and then and then nope, 1814 01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:37.840 and for fifteen years you're just told no, none of 1815 01:37:37.840 --> 01:37:40.399 that is true. You know. It's a little like John 1816 01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:41.680 Connor and Terminator three. 1817 01:37:41.960 --> 01:37:47.159 You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you know it makes 1818 01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:49.479 me wish to sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, no, 1819 01:37:49.520 --> 01:37:53.359 but no, not at all. One of my my not 1820 01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:56.199 red flags but warning flags at the beginning was his roommate. 1821 01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:59.920 Oh sure, yeah, because his roommate is just like the whole, 1822 01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:02.239 you know, supposed to be like the audience surrogate, to 1823 01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:06.760 just be sarcastic against everything that's being presented by this movie. 1824 01:38:07.279 --> 01:38:09.920 Right, He's kind of Taiko white tt in Green Lantern. 1825 01:38:10.199 --> 01:38:12.039 Yes, yes, which a lot of you know, a little 1826 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:15.359 tika goes a long way, right, We've established that well, 1827 01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:17.960 and you know, it starts with him like watching the 1828 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.119 notebook and crying and then trying to hide it. And 1829 01:38:20.119 --> 01:38:21.880 I was like, dude, that joke's like twenty years old, 1830 01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:26.520 you know, although I recognized later on that that maybe 1831 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:29.199 has something to do with masculinity and its and stuff. 1832 01:38:29.439 --> 01:38:33.479 But instead of him just being some sort of kind 1833 01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:38.560 of like, well that just happened. Yeah, yeah, like some 1834 01:38:38.720 --> 01:38:42.720 tired joke machine, I actually wish. I'm like, what is 1835 01:38:42.760 --> 01:38:45.560 their relationship? Why does he believe Adam? Right? 1836 01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.319 Nobody else does, but he actually does? Yeah, And I 1837 01:38:48.359 --> 01:38:48.960 was like, is he. 1838 01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:51.640 Just He's like, look, I know Adam says these things 1839 01:38:51.640 --> 01:38:53.640 and he really believes them, and I kind of feel 1840 01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:55.560 bad for him. He's not a bad guy, like I 1841 01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:57.720 would have liked if that relationship had felt a little 1842 01:38:57.760 --> 01:38:59.199 bit more real. 1843 01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:02.319 Well, So, I think, just just to add on to 1844 01:39:02.359 --> 01:39:06.880 what you're saying, I think this is what's missing. And 1845 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:09.159 it's not like you're you're necessarily feel the absence, but 1846 01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:10.600 that's certainly what I thought of. I'm like, well, he 1847 01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:12.319 landed on earth as like an eight year old. Now 1848 01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:16.800 he's in his mid twenties, so like, what where was 1849 01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:17.800 he mm hmm? 1850 01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:19.039 Yeah? Who raised him? 1851 01:39:19.079 --> 01:39:19.279 You know? 1852 01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:20.600 Right? Yeah? Yeah? 1853 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:22.720 Other people he considers his parents, you know what I mean? 1854 01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:25.279 I feel like that's a missing piece. 1855 01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:28.640 Yeah, and I wouldn't. It's not like they have to 1856 01:39:28.680 --> 01:39:32.119 go down no, you know, way down that path, but 1857 01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:35.399 instead of sort of the the jokiness and like, you know, 1858 01:39:35.479 --> 01:39:40.159 the his boss who I like, sheer a Mada yeah 1859 01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:45.159 from SNL. She she's kind of like a cartoon character, yes, 1860 01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:47.119 the way she's behaving. And I was like, I don't 1861 01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:50.920 mind what she represents and the part that she's playing 1862 01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:54.000 in this story, but I don't love just how hard 1863 01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:55.960 they're going into this. And I almost wish they had 1864 01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:58.720 treated with humor. Keep the humor. That's fine, some humor, 1865 01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:00.680 but yeah, I kind of want to to understand a 1866 01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:04.760 little bit better really what Adam's deal was. Like you're saying, like, 1867 01:40:05.119 --> 01:40:07.279 what has his life been like so far? Is he 1868 01:40:07.319 --> 01:40:10.000 good at his job, and maybe that's why in the 1869 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:11.359 first half I was a little worried that it was 1870 01:40:11.439 --> 01:40:15.560 just going to be sarcasm the whole time, And then 1871 01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:18.279 when it got to the fantasy part, it just became 1872 01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:23.439 more earnest and the humor was more organic from everything 1873 01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:26.039 that was happening and from character and stuff, And maybe 1874 01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:28.479 that's what I was feeling, the two sides of it. 1875 01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:32.680 Yeah, but I will say, I mean, it's a solid 1876 01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:37.520 hour plus before Adam becomes he man. I was excited 1877 01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:39.560 once he became he man, but I certainly wasn't like, 1878 01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:40.640 you know, when are we going to get to the 1879 01:40:40.640 --> 01:40:41.399 fireworks factor? 1880 01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:46.319 It was I was locked in, Yeah, totally were there 1881 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:49.119 are other other moments you want to well, I do. 1882 01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:52.399 I alluded to it earlier, but when you know, Man 1883 01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:56.640 at Arms is really hard on young Adam, Yeah, you know, 1884 01:40:56.680 --> 01:40:58.960 because Adam isn't tough enough and he's never really going 1885 01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:01.960 to be a great warrior. And then later when Adam 1886 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:06.319 talks to Duncan, Man at Arm's name Duncan, and he's 1887 01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:08.079 just like, you know, it's okay sometimes to talk about 1888 01:41:08.079 --> 01:41:11.720 your feelings, and they're having that conversation, and then Duncan 1889 01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:15.720 actually lets it out and talks about his feelings. He's like, hey, 1890 01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:17.640 you know, if you ever want to talk about feelings again, 1891 01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:19.680 we can do that. It's like, and then they start 1892 01:41:19.720 --> 01:41:21.640 like kind of joking, and then they start like play 1893 01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:24.920 slapping each other. Do you remember that? Like ah you ah, 1894 01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:27.159 they're slapping each other, and then Tila comes up and 1895 01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:31.600 is like, what are you doing? I loved that stuff. 1896 01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:35.159 That stuff really really funny. Charmed me well. 1897 01:41:35.279 --> 01:41:37.359 And just to add to that, and I alluded to 1898 01:41:37.399 --> 01:41:39.880 it earlier, I mean I think they gave Duncan a 1899 01:41:39.960 --> 01:41:43.840 nice journey, you know. Yeah, yeah, he starts as a 1900 01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:46.520 captain of the Royal Guard and then you know, he 1901 01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:49.800 fails and he has to come back from that. 1902 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:50.720 That gives him. 1903 01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:54.560 A in addition to his own journey, I think it 1904 01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:58.039 gives him something meaningful to play with. Tila, come on, Mendez, 1905 01:41:58.039 --> 01:41:59.239 who you know? I mean, I just know her as 1906 01:41:59.319 --> 01:42:01.079 Veronica from Riverdale. 1907 01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:04.600 Oh okay, okay, I really liked her in this. She 1908 01:42:04.720 --> 01:42:05.079 was great. 1909 01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:07.520 Alison Brie. We haven't talked about. 1910 01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:12.039 Her, yes, yes, who? I thought she was so great 1911 01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:14.840 and I wish there had been more. Actually, yeah, she 1912 01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:17.319 just brings so much as a performer to begin with. 1913 01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:20.840 She's such a great actress. Yeah, and she made Evil 1914 01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:25.239 like really interesting to watch, just the way that she 1915 01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:27.680 seems sort of turned on by Skeletor, but she's also 1916 01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:31.720 continually tortured by Skeletor, And like, I just found all 1917 01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:34.479 that really fun and interesting, and I wouldn't have minded 1918 01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:35.000 more from her. 1919 01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:39.439 Well, I texted this too. I just love that, both 1920 01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:41.840 in this movie and the old movie Evil. NS go 1921 01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:45.920 to movies that as soon as it even starts looking 1922 01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:48.239 like Skeletor is gonna get his ass kicked, Evil ends 1923 01:42:48.279 --> 01:42:53.119 like all right, let's go yeah, right right, there's no 1924 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:54.159 honor among thieves. 1925 01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:56.159 Yeah, yeah, she's terrific. 1926 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:58.119 I love the I love the platinum hair. 1927 01:42:58.920 --> 01:43:02.359 Yeah yeah, yeah, that was cool. 1928 01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:05.239 Sorry, I'm just thinking of Elson Brie with the platinum hair. Sorry, 1929 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:05.760 excuse me. 1930 01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.359 That's one of my uh earlier memories. I remember when 1931 01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:15.520 they're making Community and I worked on the Paramount lot. 1932 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:18.520 We were crossing paths, and I was like, holy crap, 1933 01:43:18.520 --> 01:43:20.039 it's that was a bre like a total crush on 1934 01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:22.479 her and a community and and so I was like, 1935 01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:23.880 all right, I don't want to be like weird. I'm 1936 01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:26.079 sure everybody always looks at her and you know, yeah, 1937 01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:28.199 it does. But I so I was kind of like 1938 01:43:28.199 --> 01:43:30.600 trying to play it cool. But then at the last 1939 01:43:30.640 --> 01:43:33.279 minute I looked up and we like locked eyes, and 1940 01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:38.880 she gave me the warmest smile. Oh, like total what's 1941 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:43.840 the character's name on community, Annie? Annie? Just a total 1942 01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:47.479 Annie smile. And I remember it just I melted, totally melted. 1943 01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:52.039 You melted, just like moss Man in this movie. Moss 1944 01:43:52.079 --> 01:43:57.680 Man a little nerved, I remember, because we see like 1945 01:43:57.760 --> 01:44:00.279 the the our heroes are kind of in there little 1946 01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:03.000 rebellion stronghold. I'm like, hey, Mossman, and then like ten 1947 01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:04.800 minutes later, he's just a pile of goo. 1948 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:09.479 Right in the first one, right where they killed the 1949 01:44:09.640 --> 01:44:12.119 interesting villain, that's right, Saurrod. 1950 01:44:12.479 --> 01:44:19.079 Yeah, I think that they were. I was. I was 1951 01:44:19.319 --> 01:44:22.720 sort of impressed with like the range of characters that 1952 01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:24.800 they did bring in. I was disappointed we didn't get 1953 01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:26.399 like Merman, who I feel like is one of the 1954 01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:29.439 essential ones and to the others, but but like we 1955 01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:34.640 got enough of the the the icons is probably the 1956 01:44:34.680 --> 01:44:38.479 wrong word, but you know, the the the memorable characters 1957 01:44:38.520 --> 01:44:40.199 from the toy line and the cartoon. 1958 01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:44.640 Well, and I like that they kept their toy looking looks, 1959 01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:47.520 their colors. They're you know, like moss Man. Yeah, he 1960 01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:49.640 was just like a guy covered in moss for some reason. 1961 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:53.439 You know, that's how it works. The only thing that 1962 01:44:53.479 --> 01:44:56.119 would have made it better is if moss Man used 1963 01:44:56.119 --> 01:45:02.560 the exact same digital model as beast Man. Yes, because 1964 01:45:02.600 --> 01:45:04.439 the toy, for those of you who don't know the 1965 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:07.680 toy of moss Man is, it's exactly beast Man, but 1966 01:45:07.720 --> 01:45:12.159 he's flocked right. And those Mattel people, they didn't think 1967 01:45:12.199 --> 01:45:13.439 we'd know. They didn't think we'd know. 1968 01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:14.920 We knew, we knew. 1969 01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.960 We knew stink Or was just Merman but painted like 1970 01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:22.079 a skunk. We knew Faker was just he Man painted 1971 01:45:22.079 --> 01:45:23.840 blue wearing Skeletor's harness. 1972 01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:28.479 We're not stupid. Mattel still made our parents buy him 1973 01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:28.800 for us. 1974 01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:34.439 But that that is accurate. Yes, So one thing I 1975 01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:36.720 did want to mention was was King rand Or played 1976 01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:41.279 by James Purefoy, King Randor dies Brian. 1977 01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:44.079 Yeah, the king is dead yep. 1978 01:45:44.439 --> 01:45:47.560 So so I mean that's obviously this kind of a 1979 01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:51.000 big deal in he Man lore right. I think that 1980 01:45:51.079 --> 01:45:52.720 was the only way to go in terms of the 1981 01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:56.920 arc in this film. Yeah, but it when the moment 1982 01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:01.000 when he dies and he's like, he I forget what 1983 01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:03.760 he says, right, He's like, I haven't said it or 1984 01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:07.960 something right like, And I wanted to pay off that 1985 01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:10.880 moment because I thought that would be like the end 1986 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:14.680 of the movie, would would tie that up. We didn't 1987 01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:18.239 get that. Yeah, I feel like we needed one more 1988 01:46:18.279 --> 01:46:19.960 scene with Adam and his dad. 1989 01:46:20.319 --> 01:46:20.760 Yeah. 1990 01:46:20.920 --> 01:46:25.640 Yeah, that although the I love the way they played it, 1991 01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:28.399 and you know, you kind of think like, oh, did 1992 01:46:28.439 --> 01:46:31.439 Skeletor just just zip. No, no, the camera pulls back. 1993 01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:34.800 Skeletor stand right. He's watching the whole thing patiently, just 1994 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:37.439 patiently waiting, and then clocks he Man right on the head. 1995 01:46:37.479 --> 01:46:41.880 I don't know, Skeletor. At one point he's like, I'm 1996 01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:43.399 not complicate, I'm evil. 1997 01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:46.520 I like that, Yeah, because he Man's trying to reason 1998 01:46:46.600 --> 01:46:47.000 with him. 1999 01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:50.920 He's like, I'm just evil. He's like, nobody's gonna have 2000 01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:51.760 sympathy for me. 2001 01:46:51.880 --> 01:46:55.000 I'm the evil guy. Yeah. Yeah, like I like this guy. 2002 01:46:55.039 --> 01:46:57.159 He's good. I said this about Franklin Jell's Gunter. You 2003 01:46:57.159 --> 01:46:59.239 give the man a puppy, he will kill that puppy. 2004 01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:03.760 That's the skeletory. You know, and then of course how 2005 01:47:03.800 --> 01:47:06.319 can we not mention to off lone Gren. 2006 01:47:07.079 --> 01:47:09.439 I know, I know, I was wondering if he would 2007 01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:11.880 be in here somewhere, and he doesn't just get like 2008 01:47:12.239 --> 01:47:14.600 he's across the room in winks or something like. It's 2009 01:47:14.600 --> 01:47:15.880 a whole scene. Well. 2010 01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:17.560 I love that he's like, hey, I'm supposed to be 2011 01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:18.439 that you're in my spot. 2012 01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:21.479 Yeah, right right, that's very funny. 2013 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:24.119 At the gym, and then he's he gives him his 2014 01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:26.560 what's funny is he gives him some advice, which is 2015 01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:28.880 kind of like at the moment, doesn't make any sense, 2016 01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:33.399 but it ends up, you know, actually helping he in 2017 01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:35.239 in that moment when he is to rally his troops, 2018 01:47:35.239 --> 01:47:39.239 you know, right or Adam, and then he says, good journey. 2019 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:42.720 Good journey, even does the hand hand thing. Yeah. I 2020 01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:43.560 like that. 2021 01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:47.039 They you know they I would have liked frank lingel 2022 01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:48.239 A to show up, honestly. 2023 01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:51.319 Yeah, oh sure. Yeah. Maybe he's the guy who's like 2024 01:47:51.359 --> 01:47:56.439 out of my way in the gym, bumps tof lungrinlazy. 2025 01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:59.600 Yeah yeah. Other other things that jumped. 2026 01:47:59.359 --> 01:48:01.800 Out I thought skelted, Like I said, I thought he 2027 01:48:01.800 --> 01:48:03.800 got funnier and funnier and I was laughing at all. 2028 01:48:04.279 --> 01:48:07.439 They did a good job of And he just has 2029 01:48:07.479 --> 01:48:09.600 a skull for a face, right, like I mean, it's 2030 01:48:09.600 --> 01:48:13.439 not like Kenny Mote, but somehow it's still emoated. Yeah, 2031 01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:16.319 I thought that was pretty pretty fun. I like the 2032 01:48:16.319 --> 01:48:19.920 two red dots in the you know, the eye holes. 2033 01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:23.199 I thought that was that that evokes the old the 2034 01:48:23.239 --> 01:48:25.600 old toys. You know, we're kind of same thing as 2035 01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:31.199 little his eyes were red. I there's a scene where 2036 01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:34.760 he is sleeping. M oh, he's just under He's under 2037 01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:36.600 a sheet like a corpse, right because he's you know, 2038 01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:39.720 and and you know, I thought that was clever. But 2039 01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:41.279 I also like that at the foot of his bed, 2040 01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:42.960 his boots are just sitting there and just for some 2041 01:48:43.039 --> 01:48:46.640 reason that made me chuckle, like, takes off his boots, 2042 01:48:46.640 --> 01:48:48.000 puts them right next to his bed, and he just 2043 01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:49.439 and then he puts the sheet over his head. I 2044 01:48:49.479 --> 01:48:55.439 don't know, I just yeah, yeah, just like us exactly, 2045 01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:59.199 you know, super villains, they're just like us. There's a 2046 01:48:59.199 --> 01:49:01.199 lot of fun East drags, Like I'm looking forward to 2047 01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:04.359 watching the YouTube videos that I'm sure are coming. Going 2048 01:49:04.399 --> 01:49:07.560 through all of them. Yeah, there's plenty. I'm not going 2049 01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:10.279 to about going through all of them. But but what it 2050 01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:13.079 showed me is that clearly the folks making this thing 2051 01:49:13.119 --> 01:49:16.840 had had a lot of affinity for this, for this franchise, 2052 01:49:17.039 --> 01:49:18.479 and it showed Yeah. 2053 01:49:18.479 --> 01:49:20.479 And I feel like if someone off the street were 2054 01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:23.359 to walk in and watch this, I feel like if 2055 01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:27.560 they allow themselves to go with it, they will be charmed. 2056 01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:33.039 And I feel like fans are gonna love this. That's mine. Absolutely, 2057 01:49:33.439 --> 01:49:36.239 you will. You You're you know, the biggest. 2058 01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:38.560 I'd like to think that I speak for all he 2059 01:49:38.720 --> 01:49:45.199 Man fans. Yeah, I am their voice and on their behalf. 2060 01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:49.079 Yes, welove it great well, and we get all the 2061 01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:52.039 moderns Oh sorry, goh, just well, just. 2062 01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:55.680 To just to put a pin on that, you mentioned 2063 01:49:55.760 --> 01:49:57.960 Dungeon Dragons. I think if you're looking for the most 2064 01:49:58.399 --> 01:50:02.279 apt tonal analog, it's Dungeons and Dragons, the Chris Pine 2065 01:50:02.279 --> 01:50:03.239 one from a few years ago. 2066 01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:08.079 Yeah, no, totally, totally exactly that. Yeah, but you know, 2067 01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:10.079 and I was gonna say, but you even get like 2068 01:50:10.119 --> 01:50:12.119 the memes. You know, the four non Blonde song is 2069 01:50:12.159 --> 01:50:14.640 in the movie, and I love. 2070 01:50:14.520 --> 01:50:17.119 That we get like a reference to Highlander in the beginning. 2071 01:50:17.520 --> 01:50:20.000 Oh yeah, that's right, which was amusing. And then and 2072 01:50:20.039 --> 01:50:22.239 then we get Princes of the Universe later in the movie. 2073 01:50:23.720 --> 01:50:26.319 Oh yeah, that's right, the Queen song. There's great needle 2074 01:50:26.359 --> 01:50:27.880 drops actually throughout this movie. 2075 01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:31.880 Yeah, you know yeah. And I just thought the score 2076 01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:33.399 was fun. I'm glad they like went for it and 2077 01:50:33.399 --> 01:50:36.800 made it like some big rock opera sounding things. I 2078 01:50:36.840 --> 01:50:37.600 just felt like it fit. 2079 01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:42.000 Now you have not seen Flash Gordon. If I'm not mistaken, No, 2080 01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:47.039 you got you got a movie waiting for you. Yeah, yeah, 2081 01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:49.680 i'd be curious. Well, this is like at this point, 2082 01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:52.000 longtime listeners are like, oh, you're gonna do a commentary 2083 01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:57.239 because we've been We've been promising one forever we will 2084 01:50:57.239 --> 01:51:00.399 do a commentary one day. But Pine's got watched the 2085 01:51:00.439 --> 01:51:01.520 movie first, I know. 2086 01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:02.079 I know. 2087 01:51:02.279 --> 01:51:04.279 So they got that win where you can send your 2088 01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:08.640 hate mail to him, not me, get him. He's the 2089 01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:09.319 one him. 2090 01:51:11.640 --> 01:51:14.760 H dude orco showing up. I loved you. 2091 01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:17.560 Know what's funny. So so before the movie started, I 2092 01:51:17.920 --> 01:51:20.479 turned to my second kid and I'm like, he's like, 2093 01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:21.840 is there a post credit scene? I was like, yeah, 2094 01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:24.680 I think there's one. And I was like, my prediction 2095 01:51:25.640 --> 01:51:29.159 is we're going to see either orco or Shira? Yep, 2096 01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:31.680 and why didn't you know? We got both? 2097 01:51:31.840 --> 01:51:34.479 We got both? And she actually started to turn her 2098 01:51:34.520 --> 01:51:36.439 head and I was like, wait, did they cast her? 2099 01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:37.960 I was wondering about that. 2100 01:51:38.239 --> 01:51:40.319 Yeah, but I don't think so. I guess she's just 2101 01:51:40.479 --> 01:51:43.800 she's just vague enough that they could, you know, fill 2102 01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:45.359 that in with someone later. They should. 2103 01:51:45.359 --> 01:51:49.000 They should get Ariana Grande, wasn't she? She played t 2104 01:51:49.199 --> 01:51:51.359 is Shira in the There was like that SNL sketch. 2105 01:51:52.680 --> 01:51:53.439 Have you seen that one? 2106 01:51:53.479 --> 01:51:55.800 Oh? Is that the one with Chris Pratt and Chris. 2107 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:58.760 Pratt is he Man and turn kill Him is Lionel? Yeah? 2108 01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:01.840 Yeah, they're like action figure that came to life. Yeah. 2109 01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:04.279 I think I think it's a Kyle Mooney. He wishes 2110 01:52:04.319 --> 01:52:05.279 his toys would come to life. 2111 01:52:05.359 --> 01:52:06.359 Yeah, that's right, that's right. 2112 01:52:07.680 --> 01:52:09.479 But we shall see. We'll see in the he Man 2113 01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:10.640 sequel that's never coming. 2114 01:52:12.079 --> 01:52:16.520 Oh man, I know this is such a buffer. I'm well, 2115 01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:21.960 I guess you read the projections, but it ain't looking good. Yeah. Yeah, 2116 01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:23.560 but I want these people to feel proud of what 2117 01:52:23.600 --> 01:52:27.439 they did because they didn't compromise, you know what I mean, 2118 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:31.920 And like they made I in my opinion, I mean, 2119 01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:34.439 we have our our thoughts about things that maybe could 2120 01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:37.319 have been polished up a bit or whatever or thought 2121 01:52:37.319 --> 01:52:39.640 out a little bit more. But like, as a whole, 2122 01:52:39.720 --> 01:52:42.439 I think, what more could you ask for from a 2123 01:52:42.439 --> 01:52:44.960 he Man movie? Like they did it. I think they should. 2124 01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:45.880 They should be proud of it. 2125 01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:48.560 They should be proud. And this is a movie that 2126 01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:51.640 I know, I personally, I have no doubt I will 2127 01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:54.720 I will be watching it in years ahead, and I 2128 01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:58.119 think I think kids who watch it will it'll be 2129 01:52:58.319 --> 01:53:01.560 something special for them. Yeah, and there we go. 2130 01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:04.800 Yeah, I'm really happy. Is that nice that that's that 2131 01:53:04.840 --> 01:53:05.880 we actually enjoyed. 2132 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:09.640 It, you know for sure that but also the fact 2133 01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:13.239 that we have spent the life of this podcast being like, yeah, 2134 01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:16.039 so they're talking about a he Man movie again. I 2135 01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:18.760 know I'll believe that when that happens. And now it's happened, 2136 01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:21.279 and and we no longer have purpose, Brian. 2137 01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:23.359 We're just gonna fade away. 2138 01:53:25.720 --> 01:53:28.760 I'm just gonna walk into the nearest body of water, 2139 01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:29.760 just disappear. 2140 01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:34.000 Yeah. Yeah. Or like remember when Cartman his hand is possessed. 2141 01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:38.159 I think it's like by j Lo or whatever. And 2142 01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:40.720 then when when it's finally the spirit is leaving his hand. 2143 01:53:40.760 --> 01:53:45.520 He just goes, Will I dream, that's us, that's us. 2144 01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:46.960 Will we dream? 2145 01:53:47.439 --> 01:53:49.000 Well, I don't know if we will dream, but we 2146 01:53:49.079 --> 01:53:52.880 will be discussing a disclosure day in our next episode. 2147 01:53:53.359 --> 01:53:59.279 Man, I am cautiously really really excited. 2148 01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:02.319 I agree with that very much, looking forward to that. 2149 01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:04.960 But you'll have to tune in in a week for 2150 01:54:05.039 --> 01:54:07.640 that one. For the time being, if you do watch 2151 01:54:07.680 --> 01:54:10.199 Masters of the Universe on our recommendation, please let us 2152 01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:12.079 know and let us know what you think. And if 2153 01:54:12.119 --> 01:54:16.119 you haven't watched it, why the hell not. 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You can also read 2187 01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:50.199 my reviews at the Rap, including my thoughts on Jack 2188 01:55:50.319 --> 01:55:52.800 Ryan Ghost War, which I talked about also in our 2189 01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:54.239 last episode, all Right you, Brian, what do you got 2190 01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:54.479 going on? 2191 01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:57.279 You can find episodes I've written of Puppy Dog Pals 2192 01:55:57.359 --> 01:55:59.760 and Young Jedi Adventures streaming on Disney Plus. 2193 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:03.880 There we go on behalf of my partner Brian holl 2194 01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:06.039 My name is Zaki Hasan. This has been Movie Film 2195 01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:08.399 three forty four. We'll catch you next time. Thanks everybody, 2196 01:56:10.159 --> 01:56:11.600 Welcome friends. 2197 01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:19.119 Movie Down Podcast podcast, Jakie the Toms Dot 2198 01:56:21.199 --> 01:56:22.039 It's on the way.