WEBVTT

1
00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo.

2
00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:12.279
<v Speaker 2>These guys, are you fav It's so like say subscribe

3
00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:16.199
<v Speaker 2>and raid it live, stary and.

4
00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:24.879
<v Speaker 3>Greatest con esh today listening watching limb always keep it's watching.

5
00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.399
<v Speaker 3>And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James Bubo Fay.

6
00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Bobo, How you doing? Man doing? Okay? We're

7
00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:38.240
<v Speaker 2>talking about Teddy Roosevelt today because it's that spooky time

8
00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:39.719
<v Speaker 2>of year and so we thought, well, you know what,

9
00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:42.960
<v Speaker 2>one of the scariest stories in all bigfoot is. One

10
00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.240
<v Speaker 2>of the classics is one is the Bauman incident, which

11
00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.439
<v Speaker 2>was told by Theodore Roosevelt, now Teddy Roosevelt, of course,

12
00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:52.880
<v Speaker 2>former presidents and all that jazz. He's long gone, et cetera.

13
00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I think his birthplace actually is a national park out

14
00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.719
<v Speaker 2>there in New York. And they're actually men of the

15
00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:02.960
<v Speaker 2>North America bigba Center in my dad kind of cool,

16
00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:04.680
<v Speaker 2>at least the guy who one of the guys who

17
00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.159
<v Speaker 2>runs it is. So we have some connections to the

18
00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Theodore Roosevelt thing, and the Bigfoot connection is a big

19
00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:13.359
<v Speaker 2>one in bigfoot land. Theodore Roosevelt had a book published

20
00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I think it was an eighteen ninety three, if I

21
00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.920
<v Speaker 2>remember right, it might be a year or two. Often

22
00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:21.040
<v Speaker 2>eighteen ninety three he published a book called The Wilderness Hunter,

23
00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's a lengthy book about his adventures and all

24
00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.359
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff, because he's a rather prominent outdoorsman

25
00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:30.560
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, you know, So he wrote this book.

26
00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:32.959
<v Speaker 2>It's many hundreds of pages long, but there's a section

27
00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:36.359
<v Speaker 2>of it at the very end that he basically describes

28
00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:41.079
<v Speaker 2>not his own, but someone else's very frightening sasquatch encounter.

29
00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Now sasquatch, that word didn't exist. The word bigfoot then,

30
00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:48.079
<v Speaker 2>it certainly didn't exist. That came much later, but certainly

31
00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.680
<v Speaker 2>sasquatches themselves did exist. They're perfectly normal animals. They've always

32
00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:56.200
<v Speaker 2>been around here. And so basically Theodore Roosevelt ran into

33
00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.799
<v Speaker 2>some dude named Bowman who told him a story. So

34
00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.079
<v Speaker 2>we thought we'd do today in case you've never heard it.

35
00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:04.280
<v Speaker 2>This story is written in like I said, eighteen ninety two,

36
00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.680
<v Speaker 2>eighteen ninety three was published then, so it is well

37
00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:09.800
<v Speaker 2>in public domain at this point. There's no knowledge of

38
00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:12.080
<v Speaker 2>this being in any copyright or anything like that. So

39
00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:14.439
<v Speaker 2>we thought we'd take this opportunity to read you the

40
00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:18.479
<v Speaker 2>story do read aloud today and then with our comments.

41
00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because Avan Sanderson put that in the epic book

42
00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Balminle Stoeman Legend comes to Life back in nineteen sixty one.

43
00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:26.759
<v Speaker 1>That's when that got introduced into the world of the

44
00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot people. So it's been a legendary story, like one

45
00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:33.680
<v Speaker 1>of the classics of bigfoot literature.

46
00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and of course Teddy Roosevelt having his name associated

47
00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.599
<v Speaker 2>with it is it a certain level of credence and importance.

48
00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.000
<v Speaker 2>And so we thought it would be fun episode today

49
00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:47.639
<v Speaker 2>to read you that excerpt from Teddy Roosevelt's Wilderness Hunter

50
00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.120
<v Speaker 2>book where the Bauman story is contained, and we'll just

51
00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of riff and comment on it because a lot

52
00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of what he wrote about has later come to light

53
00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.240
<v Speaker 2>as perfectly and normalstasquatch behavior. This story resonates as strongly

54
00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.560
<v Speaker 2>today as it does back then, but perhaps in a

55
00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.360
<v Speaker 2>different way. Back then he described it as like a

56
00:03:04.400 --> 00:03:06.639
<v Speaker 2>goblin or hobgoblin story, I think is what he said,

57
00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.240
<v Speaker 2>like just a ghosty sort of scary story told by

58
00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:13.680
<v Speaker 2>some old grizzled woodsman. But now when we look at

59
00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.319
<v Speaker 2>it through the lens of eight behavior and Sasquatch stuff

60
00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:18.479
<v Speaker 2>in particular, it's like, oh yeah, yeah, they ran into

61
00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:21.919
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch. It's perfectly clear. So yeah, we thought that

62
00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.639
<v Speaker 2>we would do that today for our listeners in celebration

63
00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:27.759
<v Speaker 2>of Halloween and Teddy Roosevelts and Bowman and everything spooky

64
00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:29.840
<v Speaker 2>that goes in Bigfoot, because a lot of people do

65
00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.439
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the Bigfoot subject just because it's kind of spooky.

66
00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:35.080
<v Speaker 2>So you ready, bow should we jump in hit it?

67
00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:35.560
<v Speaker 4>Maestro?

68
00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.759
<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go. This is directly from Teddy

69
00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Roosevelt's Wilderness Hunter book, and this is the Bowman story.

70
00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:47.000
<v Speaker 2>It was told to me by a grizzled, weather beaten

71
00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:50.520
<v Speaker 2>old mountain hunter named Bauman, who was born and had

72
00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.639
<v Speaker 2>passed all of his life on the frontier. He must

73
00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.879
<v Speaker 2>have believed what he said, for he could hardly repress

74
00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:01.159
<v Speaker 2>a shudder at certain points of the tales. When the

75
00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:04.360
<v Speaker 2>event occurred, Bauman was still a young man and was

76
00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.199
<v Speaker 2>trapping with a partner among the mountains dividing the forks

77
00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.960
<v Speaker 2>of the Salmon from the head of the Wisdom River.

78
00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Not having had much luck, he and his partner determined

79
00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to go up into a particularly wild and lonely pass

80
00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:22.040
<v Speaker 2>through which ran a small stream said to contain many beaver.

81
00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:26.000
<v Speaker 2>The pass had an evil reputation because the year before

82
00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:29.959
<v Speaker 2>a solitary hunter who had wandered into it, was there

83
00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:34.879
<v Speaker 2>slain seemingly by a wild beast, the half eaten remains

84
00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:39.240
<v Speaker 2>being afterwards found by some mining prospectors who had passed

85
00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:43.000
<v Speaker 2>his camp only the night before. The Memory of this event, however,

86
00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:46.480
<v Speaker 2>weighed very lightly with the two trappers, who were as

87
00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.920
<v Speaker 2>adventurous and hardy as others of their kind. They then

88
00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.439
<v Speaker 2>struck out on foot through the vast, gloomy forest, and

89
00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.800
<v Speaker 2>in about four hours reached a little open glade, where

90
00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.560
<v Speaker 2>they concluded to camp, as signs of game were plenty.

91
00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.360
<v Speaker 2>There was still an hour or two of daylight left,

92
00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:07.920
<v Speaker 2>and after building a brush lean to and throwing down

93
00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and opening their packs, they started upstream. At dusk they

94
00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.160
<v Speaker 2>again reached camp. They were surprised to find that during

95
00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:19.319
<v Speaker 2>their absence, something apparently a bear, had visited camp and

96
00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.920
<v Speaker 2>had rummaged about among their things, scattering the contents of

97
00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:27.680
<v Speaker 2>their packs and in sheer wantonness, destroying their lean to.

98
00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.519
<v Speaker 2>The Footprints of the beast were quite plain, but at

99
00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.279
<v Speaker 2>first they paid no particular heed to them, busying themselves

100
00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:39.079
<v Speaker 2>with rebuilding the lean to, laying out their beds and stores,

101
00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.000
<v Speaker 2>and lighting the fire. While Bauman was making ready supper,

102
00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.759
<v Speaker 2>it being already dark, his companion began to examine the

103
00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.240
<v Speaker 2>tracks more closely, and soon took a brand from the

104
00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.240
<v Speaker 2>fire to follow them up where the intruder had walked

105
00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:57.079
<v Speaker 2>along a game trail after leaving the camp. Coming back

106
00:05:57.120 --> 00:05:59.319
<v Speaker 2>to the fire, he stood by it a minute or

107
00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:03.920
<v Speaker 2>two out into the darkness, and suddenly remarked Bauman that

108
00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:07.759
<v Speaker 2>bear has been walking on two legs. Bauman laughed at this,

109
00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.399
<v Speaker 2>but his partner insisted that he was right, and upon

110
00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.920
<v Speaker 2>again examining the tracks with the torch, they certainly did

111
00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:19.279
<v Speaker 2>seem to be made by but two paws or feet. However,

112
00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:23.120
<v Speaker 2>it was too dark to make sure. After discussing whether

113
00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.879
<v Speaker 2>the footprints could possibly be those of a human being,

114
00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.800
<v Speaker 2>and coming to the conclusion that they could not be,

115
00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.399
<v Speaker 2>the two men rolled up their blankets and went to

116
00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:35.360
<v Speaker 2>sleep under the lean to. At midnight, Bauman was awakened

117
00:06:35.360 --> 00:06:38.800
<v Speaker 2>by some noise and sat up in his blankets. As

118
00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:42.560
<v Speaker 2>he did so, his nostrils were struck by a strong

119
00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:46.639
<v Speaker 2>wild beast odor, and he caught the loom of a

120
00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.360
<v Speaker 2>great body in the darkness at the mouth of the

121
00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:53.519
<v Speaker 2>lean to. Grasping his rifle, he fired at the vague,

122
00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:57.959
<v Speaker 2>threatening shadow, but must have missed, for immediately afterward he

123
00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.399
<v Speaker 2>heard the smashing of the underwood as the thing, whatever

124
00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.560
<v Speaker 2>it was, rushed off into the impenetrable blackness of the forest.

125
00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:08.839
<v Speaker 2>And the night after this the two men slept but little,

126
00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.639
<v Speaker 2>sitting up by the rekindled fire, but they heard nothing more.

127
00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.480
<v Speaker 2>In the morning, they started out to look at a

128
00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.040
<v Speaker 2>few traps that they had set the previous evening and

129
00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.839
<v Speaker 2>put out new ones. By an unspoken agreement. They kept

130
00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:25.800
<v Speaker 2>together all day and returned to camp towards evening. On

131
00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:29.120
<v Speaker 2>nearing it, they saw hardly to their astonishment that the

132
00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:33.199
<v Speaker 2>lean to had been again torn down. The visitor of

133
00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:37.120
<v Speaker 2>the preceding day had returned, and in wanton malice had

134
00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:41.079
<v Speaker 2>tossed about their campkit and bedding and destroyed the shanty.

135
00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.720
<v Speaker 2>The ground was marked up by its tracks, and on

136
00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.439
<v Speaker 2>leaving the camp it had gone along the soft earth

137
00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:50.680
<v Speaker 2>by the brook, where the footprints were as plain as

138
00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.839
<v Speaker 2>if on snow, and after a careful scrutiny of the trail,

139
00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:58.480
<v Speaker 2>it certainly did seem as if whatever the thing was,

140
00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:02.199
<v Speaker 2>it had walked off on but two legs. The men,

141
00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:05.560
<v Speaker 2>thoroughly uneasy, gathered a great heap of dead logs and

142
00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:08.759
<v Speaker 2>kept up a roaring fire throughout the night, one or

143
00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:12.519
<v Speaker 2>the other sitting on guard most of the time. About midnight,

144
00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.639
<v Speaker 2>the thing came down through the forest opposite across the

145
00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.800
<v Speaker 2>brook and stayed there on the hillside for nearly an hour.

146
00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.519
<v Speaker 2>They could hear the branches crackle as it moved about,

147
00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and several times it uttered a harsh, grating, long drawn moan,

148
00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:30.439
<v Speaker 2>a particularly sinister sound, yet it did not venture near

149
00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.320
<v Speaker 2>the fire. Well, sound like a sasquash. I don't know

150
00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:34.200
<v Speaker 2>what does man.

151
00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm imagining the Ohio. How when I hear him

152
00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:37.799
<v Speaker 4>say that?

153
00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, they specifically said moan, harsh grating, long drawn moan.

154
00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:45.919
<v Speaker 2>That to me says a big old Ohio howl or

155
00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:48.519
<v Speaker 2>something to that effect. Anyway, I mean, how many stories

156
00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.320
<v Speaker 2>have you heard of people getting freaked out around the

157
00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:52.080
<v Speaker 2>fire and having to listen to these things yell at

158
00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.759
<v Speaker 2>them and stuff. It's like, yeah, in the morning, the

159
00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.879
<v Speaker 2>two trappers, after discussing the strange events of the last

160
00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:01.279
<v Speaker 2>thirty six hours, decided that they would shoulder their packs

161
00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:04.879
<v Speaker 2>and leave the valley that afternoon. All the morning they

162
00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.919
<v Speaker 2>kept together, picking up trap after trap, each one empty.

163
00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.399
<v Speaker 2>On first leaving camp, they had the disagreeable sensation of

164
00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:17.320
<v Speaker 2>being followed in the dense spruce thickets. They occasionally heard

165
00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:20.080
<v Speaker 2>a branch snap after they had passed, and now and

166
00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.159
<v Speaker 2>then there were slight rustling noises among the small pines

167
00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:27.919
<v Speaker 2>to one side of them. Again, very very typical Sasquatch behavior,

168
00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.399
<v Speaker 2>following these things around. You know, these people came into

169
00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:34.919
<v Speaker 2>the Sasquatch's territory. The Sasquatch is clearly just keeping an

170
00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.000
<v Speaker 2>eye on them, following them about.

171
00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.200
<v Speaker 1>And right in their traps. Wmember, We talked to that

172
00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.200
<v Speaker 1>one kid when we were down in the south. His

173
00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.120
<v Speaker 1>trap blink kept fitting rated like they would pull all

174
00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the animals out. Then he finally found the big footprints there.

175
00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he saw the thing while he's doing a great

176
00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:51.879
<v Speaker 2>footprint tracks, by the way, And also the didn't that

177
00:09:51.879 --> 00:09:56.639
<v Speaker 2>happened at that place where ken Walker heard from that trapper. Dude,

178
00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:58.240
<v Speaker 2>that's the same thing does happening there.

179
00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.679
<v Speaker 4>We hear it. We've heard it like dozens of times. Yeah,

180
00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:02.519
<v Speaker 4>at least I have.

181
00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Sure At noon they were back within a couple of

182
00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:09.200
<v Speaker 2>miles of camp in the high, bright sunlight. Their fears

183
00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:13.200
<v Speaker 2>seemed absurd to the two armed men, accustomed as they

184
00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.200
<v Speaker 2>were through long years of lonely wandering in the wilderness

185
00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:19.879
<v Speaker 2>to face every kind of danger from man, brute or element.

186
00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.960
<v Speaker 2>There were still three beaver traps to collect from a

187
00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.960
<v Speaker 2>little pond in a wide ravine nearby. Bauman volunteered to

188
00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:29.639
<v Speaker 2>gather these and bring him in, while his companion went

189
00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:32.600
<v Speaker 2>ahead to camp and made ready the packs. On reaching

190
00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.679
<v Speaker 2>the pond, Bauman found three beavers in the traps, one

191
00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:37.919
<v Speaker 2>of which had been pulled loose and carried into a

192
00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.399
<v Speaker 2>beaver house. He took several hours in securing and preparing

193
00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.600
<v Speaker 2>the beaver, and when he started homeward, he marked with

194
00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:48.559
<v Speaker 2>some uneasiness how low the sun was getting. At last

195
00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.000
<v Speaker 2>he came to the edge of a little glade where

196
00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:53.759
<v Speaker 2>the camp lay, and he shouted as he approached it,

197
00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:57.559
<v Speaker 2>but got no answer. The campfire had gone out, though

198
00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.559
<v Speaker 2>the thin blue smoke was still curling upwards. Near it

199
00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.080
<v Speaker 2>lay the packs wrapped and arranged. At first, Bauman could

200
00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.399
<v Speaker 2>see nobody, nor did he receive an answer to his call.

201
00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Stepping forward, He again shouted, but as he did so,

202
00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:16.480
<v Speaker 2>his eye fell on the body of his friend, stretched

203
00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:20.840
<v Speaker 2>beside the trunk of a great fallen spruce. Rushing toward it,

204
00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:24.440
<v Speaker 2>the horrified trapper found that the body was still warm,

205
00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but that the neck was broken, while there were four

206
00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.840
<v Speaker 2>great fang marks in the throat. Well, that doesn't jive

207
00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:32.960
<v Speaker 2>very well at the Sasquad.

208
00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.279
<v Speaker 4>That's the one thing that throws me off on the

209
00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:36.000
<v Speaker 4>whole story.

210
00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:37.919
<v Speaker 2>We'll get back to that in a minute after we're

211
00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.720
<v Speaker 2>done here. The footprints of the unknown beast creature, printed

212
00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.159
<v Speaker 2>deep in the soft soil, told the whole story. The

213
00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.559
<v Speaker 2>unfortunate man, having finished his packing, had sat down on

214
00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.519
<v Speaker 2>the spruce log, with his face to the fire and

215
00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.840
<v Speaker 2>his back to the dense woods, to wait for his companion.

216
00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:58.679
<v Speaker 2>It had not eaten the body, but apparently had romped

217
00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:04.720
<v Speaker 2>in gambold round it in uncouth, ferocious glee, occasionally rolling

218
00:12:04.799 --> 00:12:07.639
<v Speaker 2>over it and over it, and had then fled back

219
00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:12.440
<v Speaker 2>into the soundless depths of the forests. Bauman, utterly unnerved

220
00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.240
<v Speaker 2>and believing that the creature with which he had the

221
00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.639
<v Speaker 2>deal was some something either half human or half devil,

222
00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:23.000
<v Speaker 2>with some great goblin beast abandoned everything but his rifle

223
00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:27.080
<v Speaker 2>and struck off at speed down the pass, not halting

224
00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:30.320
<v Speaker 2>until he reached the beaver meadows, where the hobbled ponies

225
00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:34.279
<v Speaker 2>were still grazing. Mounting, he rode onward through the night

226
00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.279
<v Speaker 2>until far beyond the reach of pursuit.

227
00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.720
<v Speaker 5>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and

228
00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:48.639
<v Speaker 5>Bobo will be right back after these messages.

229
00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:53.840
<v Speaker 2>But were you starting to notice a thinning hair? Who me,

230
00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:59.399
<v Speaker 2>maybe uh, a little a little hair left or a

231
00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.840
<v Speaker 2>little thinning hair both. Well, I've got good news for you.

232
00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.879
<v Speaker 2>Bobo Hymns offers access to prescription treatments for regrowing hair

233
00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.279
<v Speaker 2>and as little as three to six months, so you

234
00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.960
<v Speaker 2>can see a fuller head of hair like Bobo in

235
00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:13.679
<v Speaker 2>the old days by fall.

236
00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:16.759
<v Speaker 4>That'd be nice having a fresh fall crop to harvest.

237
00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Soweet Hymns offers convenient access to a range of prescription

238
00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:25.840
<v Speaker 2>hair loss treatments with ingredients at work, including choose oral medication,

239
00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:27.840
<v Speaker 2>serums and sprays.

240
00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.039
<v Speaker 4>Yep, doctors trust this stuff. It's been clinically proven.

241
00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.600
<v Speaker 1>It's got ingredients like finesteride and oxidil, and that stuff

242
00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:36.200
<v Speaker 1>can stop hair loss and we goo hair in as

243
00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:37.840
<v Speaker 1>little as three to six months.

244
00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.919
<v Speaker 2>You can get started from the comfort of your own home, cave,

245
00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.320
<v Speaker 2>motor home, or wherever you happen to be by filling

246
00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.639
<v Speaker 2>out an intake form and a medical provider will determine

247
00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.960
<v Speaker 2>if treatment is right for you. If prescribed, your treatment

248
00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.240
<v Speaker 2>is sent directly to you for free.

249
00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.720
<v Speaker 1>The process is one hundred percent online, which meanss getting

250
00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:59.360
<v Speaker 1>started has never been more convenient and even a sasquatch

251
00:13:59.399 --> 00:13:59.639
<v Speaker 1>can do.

252
00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.919
<v Speaker 2>No insurance is needed, and one low price covers everything

253
00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.320
<v Speaker 2>from treatments to ongoing care. Plus treatment options start at

254
00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.120
<v Speaker 2>just thirty five dollars a month. Starts your free online

255
00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.440
<v Speaker 2>visit today at hymns dot com slash beyond.

256
00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:21.720
<v Speaker 1>That's hims dot com slash beyond for personalized hair loss

257
00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:23.080
<v Speaker 1>treatment options.

258
00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Hymns dot com slash beyond.

259
00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:28.759
<v Speaker 6>Individual results may vary based on studies of topical and

260
00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.519
<v Speaker 6>oral monoxidyal and finasteride. Prescription required. See website for full details,

261
00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.679
<v Speaker 6>restrictions and important safety information.

262
00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:38.919
<v Speaker 2>All right, so let's let's take a closer look at

263
00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the story here to kind of maybe not line by line,

264
00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.519
<v Speaker 2>but things that grab my attention, and the first thing

265
00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that grabs my attention is the opening line frontiersmen are not,

266
00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:50.559
<v Speaker 2>as a rule, apt to be very superstitious. I disagree,

267
00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:53.639
<v Speaker 2>and I understand his argument against it, but I disagree

268
00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:57.840
<v Speaker 2>completely with that one. I think that frontiersmen or woodsman

269
00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:00.559
<v Speaker 2>and all that sort of you know, these are like sale, Yeah,

270
00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.759
<v Speaker 2>they do tend to be rather superstitious in a lot

271
00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:03.559
<v Speaker 2>of ways. I think.

272
00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:08.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, in the same breath, figuratively speaking, Roosevelt says, well,

273
00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.159
<v Speaker 3>because of his German ancestry, he was, no doubt, you know,

274
00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:14.720
<v Speaker 3>raised in an environment that was replete with superstitious stories,

275
00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, goblin stories, inspecters and things like that. So

276
00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:19.600
<v Speaker 3>those two statements are immediately at odds.

277
00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.279
<v Speaker 2>That doesn't change the story at all. That's just, of course,

278
00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Roosevelt's two cents, and maybe Roosevelt's two cents are only

279
00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:30.919
<v Speaker 2>worth one. No, it's Roosevelt's three cents, right right. So

280
00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.480
<v Speaker 2>let's see what the next thing I want to talk

281
00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:33.519
<v Speaker 2>about here, Well.

282
00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about the setting, because obviously that's the heart

283
00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.919
<v Speaker 3>of Sasquatch Territory for the Inner Mountain West. I mean,

284
00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:41.480
<v Speaker 3>there's still contemporary reports that come out of that region

285
00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:42.039
<v Speaker 3>to this day.

286
00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's still a very very wild area. This

287
00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.600
<v Speaker 2>particular area is one of the only inland temperate rainforests

288
00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.120
<v Speaker 2>in the world. In fact, get this spot kind of

289
00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.000
<v Speaker 2>basically the panhandle of Idaho more or less gets almost

290
00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.240
<v Speaker 2>as much rain as the coast of Washington does.

291
00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:00.039
<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful. I saw a camp though with Flippy. We

292
00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.480
<v Speaker 1>were filming fine bigfoots. I was out for four nights

293
00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:04.879
<v Speaker 1>without the crew, and we were in the bitterroots in

294
00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that area, and man, I couldn't believe it. We were

295
00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.320
<v Speaker 1>these lush it was a rainforest. And because you know,

296
00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it's all desert down below there, like when you get

297
00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:14.679
<v Speaker 1>down out too far, gets pretty, you know.

298
00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:15.360
<v Speaker 4>High desert.

299
00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.039
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, my god, there was there was springs,

300
00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:23.279
<v Speaker 1>there were there was ferns galore, and roadies, redinderans, and

301
00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.480
<v Speaker 1>but just the amount of giant ferns blew my mind.

302
00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:28.720
<v Speaker 4>And this just water bowling on the ground all over

303
00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:29.679
<v Speaker 4>the place.

304
00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Very very wet area. You know, Later on in this story,

305
00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Roosevelt does does what very what kind of a lot

306
00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of skeptics to do nowadays, they kind of try to

307
00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.720
<v Speaker 2>write it off, somehow, write off somebody's perfectly normal observation.

308
00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Is something much more mundane when he says that it

309
00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:47.720
<v Speaker 2>may be that when overcome by the horror of the

310
00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:50.639
<v Speaker 2>fate that befell his friend, and when oppressed by the

311
00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:53.960
<v Speaker 2>awful dread of the unknown, he grew to a tribute

312
00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.039
<v Speaker 2>both at the time and still more in remembrance, weird

313
00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:01.240
<v Speaker 2>and elfin traits to what was merely some abnormally wicked

314
00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.799
<v Speaker 2>and cunning wild beast. But whether this is so or not,

315
00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:05.920
<v Speaker 2>no man can say.

316
00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:06.039
<v Speaker 5>So.

317
00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's trying to like discredit those like maybe he

318
00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.319
<v Speaker 2>might have just been scared, might have been remembering. It's

319
00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.920
<v Speaker 2>more an exaggerated fashion than what actually happened.

320
00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:19.119
<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, he was trying to he was a logical guy.

321
00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I suppose so. And of course, you know, another

322
00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:24.799
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing about this story is that this particular pass

323
00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:28.480
<v Speaker 2>had that reputation because somebody else had died there before

324
00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:32.039
<v Speaker 2>torn apart, torn apart. Yeah, and a lot of these

325
00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:36.240
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch places even today have sort of ill reputations where

326
00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:39.160
<v Speaker 2>so and so was murdered there, or it's haunted, or

327
00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.160
<v Speaker 2>they're the devil rooms there, or nobody goes in there

328
00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.559
<v Speaker 2>because nobody comes out, you know, that kind of stuff.

329
00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And so even back then, places had scary, scary reputations,

330
00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of times those scary reputations only because

331
00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:55.359
<v Speaker 2>it had a couple of resident sasquatches within. So I

332
00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:56.759
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I think that's kind of interesting.

333
00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.559
<v Speaker 3>I think it's worth pointing out that the setting as

334
00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.240
<v Speaker 3>described is very consistent with the setting as described by

335
00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.200
<v Speaker 3>not only witnesses who claim to have seen sasquatches in

336
00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.359
<v Speaker 3>the act of ambushing prey like deer or elk or

337
00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:12.319
<v Speaker 3>even wild hogs in other parts of the country, but

338
00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:15.440
<v Speaker 3>also the sort of setting where people very often experience

339
00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:19.400
<v Speaker 3>intimidation displays, and that being a small open clearing with

340
00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.079
<v Speaker 3>steep slopes that are heavily forested on either side and

341
00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:25.000
<v Speaker 3>usually bisected by some kind of stream or creek. And

342
00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:27.720
<v Speaker 3>so that's what he describes, that they found themselves in

343
00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.480
<v Speaker 3>a small open glade, you know, an open beaver meadow,

344
00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:34.720
<v Speaker 3>the rocky, timber clad ground being from there onward impracticable

345
00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.000
<v Speaker 3>for horses, meaning it's steep. So there's you know, steep

346
00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.319
<v Speaker 3>forested slopes on the sides of this small open glade

347
00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:44.000
<v Speaker 3>or open meadow, and that they're you know, being this creek.

348
00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:47.039
<v Speaker 3>He describes it, the glade in which it was pitched,

349
00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.880
<v Speaker 3>was not many yards wide, the tall, close set pines

350
00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.440
<v Speaker 3>and firs rising around it like a wall. On one

351
00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.279
<v Speaker 3>side was a little stream beyond which rose the steep

352
00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:59.960
<v Speaker 3>mountains covered with unbroken growth of evergreen forest. And actually

353
00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.359
<v Speaker 3>have a list of reports of people experiencing intimidation displays,

354
00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.400
<v Speaker 3>and you read time and time and time again. You know,

355
00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.720
<v Speaker 3>we found ourselves in a small open clearing, you know,

356
00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:11.440
<v Speaker 3>basically in a bowl where there's high ground on all sides,

357
00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:14.240
<v Speaker 3>heavily forested, sort of like if you can imagine being

358
00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:17.119
<v Speaker 3>in an amphitheater and you're on stage and you know

359
00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:20.279
<v Speaker 3>the seating around you. You know, there's there's no bad

360
00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:22.160
<v Speaker 3>seat in the house, so to speak, and so something

361
00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:25.359
<v Speaker 3>like that. If they are ambush hunters or ambush predators

362
00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:28.799
<v Speaker 3>using terrain to their advantage choke points, bottlenecks, et cetera,

363
00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:31.599
<v Speaker 3>but also maintaining cover on high ground where they can

364
00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.119
<v Speaker 3>see animals that are foraging in an open area so

365
00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:36.680
<v Speaker 3>they can observe them from a distance versus in a

366
00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.920
<v Speaker 3>dense forest, all of that jives perfectly in this story.

367
00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do seem like those big bowl shape areas

368
00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:44.240
<v Speaker 2>and they stay up on the side and watch things

369
00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:47.039
<v Speaker 2>wander through. Like I think of a lot of different

370
00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:49.839
<v Speaker 2>locations that fit that description that I've run into sasquatches,

371
00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:52.359
<v Speaker 2>including that one visual that I've had through thermal imager

372
00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:55.440
<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina that was a big bowl shape place

373
00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.680
<v Speaker 2>that was very very quiet, kind of interesting in that

374
00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:58.119
<v Speaker 2>same way.

375
00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:01.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, another thing that I've found repeatedly in these

376
00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:06.799
<v Speaker 3>intimidation encounters is the humans engaging or conducting themselves in

377
00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.559
<v Speaker 3>such a way that would lead an observing animal to

378
00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.920
<v Speaker 3>think that they're not going anywhere. You know, through hikers

379
00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:15.640
<v Speaker 3>tend to, you know, just constantly be on the move,

380
00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:17.599
<v Speaker 3>and so if you're bothered by human presence, well you

381
00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:19.839
<v Speaker 3>just wait a few minutes and the humans gone. But

382
00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:22.279
<v Speaker 3>it's a different matter altogether when people sit down and

383
00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:24.880
<v Speaker 3>take off their packs. You know, the Meldrim's got that

384
00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.480
<v Speaker 3>story from the Six Rivers expedition where they had stopped

385
00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:29.240
<v Speaker 3>on the trail and taken off their packs to eat

386
00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:32.480
<v Speaker 3>lunch and started having rocks lobbed at them from the forest.

387
00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:35.279
<v Speaker 3>And so you see that in certain encounters where people

388
00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:37.359
<v Speaker 3>stop and camp for the night, whether they're pitching a

389
00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.839
<v Speaker 3>tent or hanging a hammock. But this story really caused

390
00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.119
<v Speaker 3>me to look into other accounts where people had constructed shelters,

391
00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:48.119
<v Speaker 3>and those seem to be even more intense intimidation displays,

392
00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.440
<v Speaker 3>because what would send a message more like hey, this

393
00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.200
<v Speaker 3>is my home now than building a shelter in the environment,

394
00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, erecting some sort of like semi permanent structure.

395
00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:00.480
<v Speaker 3>So that element of this story you see echo to

396
00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.960
<v Speaker 3>this day in intimidation reports about you know, people setting

397
00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:08.920
<v Speaker 3>up semi permanent structures in Sasquatch habitat and then being

398
00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:10.640
<v Speaker 3>encouraged to leave of their own volition.

399
00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I will say that if somebody was walking down

400
00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.440
<v Speaker 2>the road where I live, it's a private road, I

401
00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.279
<v Speaker 2>would ask them, hey, who are you visiting? That sort

402
00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.279
<v Speaker 2>of thing. But if somebody came and pitched a tent,

403
00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I would definitely throw rocks at it.

404
00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

405
00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I imagine if they came and built a little house.

406
00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would be throwing rocks all the way. Just

407
00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:29.839
<v Speaker 2>go go, get the tractor and run it over pretty good.

408
00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.880
<v Speaker 3>You would engage in wanton destructiveness absolutely of their lean

409
00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:35.640
<v Speaker 3>to Yeah, absolutely.

410
00:21:35.599 --> 00:21:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Especially if those like TV structures and something make our

411
00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:41.440
<v Speaker 1>boundary markers for Sasquatch. What more could you be doing

412
00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:43.039
<v Speaker 1>to piss them off and putting up a lean.

413
00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:47.359
<v Speaker 2>To yeah, something they might actually understand a little bit.

414
00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:50.920
<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, this is mine. That might be getting more

415
00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>troll than the gunfire. But once again we see that

416
00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.400
<v Speaker 1>there's no violence until the gun shot.

417
00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Right and the Ape Canyon that that happened the Bouman,

418
00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:02.839
<v Speaker 2>And whenever there's some sort of fatality or real scary

419
00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:07.640
<v Speaker 2>sort of damage or violence, it almost always is set

420
00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.119
<v Speaker 2>up by a gunshot earlier. Just it goes to show man,

421
00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be one. I wouldn't want to be one

422
00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:13.160
<v Speaker 2>of these people hunting one. I'll tell you that. How

423
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.200
<v Speaker 2>scary would that be? The actually I hit it, it

424
00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:17.640
<v Speaker 2>ran away, and now I've got to be here for

425
00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:20.960
<v Speaker 2>the next eight hours. Oh man, horrifying. See that's the

426
00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.319
<v Speaker 2>horror movie that needs to be made for sure.

427
00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:24.160
<v Speaker 4>I like that.

428
00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I like that line though, when it is Bauman that

429
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>bear has been walking on two legs.

430
00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like, what, I don't know, you have

431
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Bauman laughed at this. That's the next line in the

432
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:36.880
<v Speaker 2>story right there. But yeah, yeah, it did seem to

433
00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:40.440
<v Speaker 2>be made, but didn't made by two paws or feet.

434
00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:42.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that line would be in there and

435
00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:44.319
<v Speaker 2>if they looked like bear tracks.

436
00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:46.960
<v Speaker 4>And this thing just screams bigfoot.

437
00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

438
00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Then they a few lines later after discussing whether the

439
00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:54.519
<v Speaker 2>footprints could possibly be that of a human being, and well,

440
00:22:54.559 --> 00:22:57.119
<v Speaker 2>why would that discussion be there if they're talking about

441
00:22:57.119 --> 00:22:59.319
<v Speaker 2>a big brown bear, You know, it just doesn't make sense.

442
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.039
<v Speaker 2>They us have looked a lot more like human prints

443
00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.599
<v Speaker 2>than a regular brown bear, would you know. And there's

444
00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.039
<v Speaker 2>tons of brown bear even in that area today. And

445
00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:09.160
<v Speaker 2>then of course he goes on a few moments later

446
00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:12.119
<v Speaker 2>in the story, he is awakened by some noise and

447
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:16.240
<v Speaker 2>then his nostrils were struck by his strong wild beast odor.

448
00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Well there you go. About ten or fifteen percent of

449
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:21.559
<v Speaker 2>sasquatch reports have that smell associated with it, and it's

450
00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:24.599
<v Speaker 2>right here in the story, right here. Then he saw

451
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:27.319
<v Speaker 2>the loom of a great body in the darkness. That's

452
00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>a sasquatch, you know, a loom of a great body

453
00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.039
<v Speaker 2>unless the bear's standing up. But it must be standing

454
00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:35.240
<v Speaker 2>up because it's walking around on two legs, right yeah,

455
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 2>And then of course he fires at the thing. Oh

456
00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:42.200
<v Speaker 2>the costs his friend's life.

457
00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and

458
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:48.279
<v Speaker 5>Bobo will be right back after these messages.

459
00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:57.160
<v Speaker 2>So it comes back the next day because the people

460
00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:59.759
<v Speaker 2>haven't left yet. And of course this poor Sasquatch is

461
00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:02.759
<v Speaker 2>probab be just defending it its hunting area. Of course,

462
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Speaker 2>these poor people too. Okay, they should have just left.

463
00:24:06.319 --> 00:24:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Get the hint, you know, I'll tell you, Like, if

464
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I was out of one of these spots that I

465
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.519
<v Speaker 2>go to and something came in and messed up all

466
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>my camp while I was out, I don't know if

467
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I would stay.

468
00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's easy to say you would, but it depends

469
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 4>like how violent it is.

470
00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:20.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, Like if you've got heavy things that are

471
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like smashed and thrown up in trees and that sort

472
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.880
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, and you got your yetti cooler like torn

473
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.319
<v Speaker 1>in half and like really violent stuff, like I'd be

474
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:30.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot more intimidate than just like stuff you know,

475
00:24:30.839 --> 00:24:35.000
<v Speaker 1>messed up, but really like violently ripped apart and chucked

476
00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:36.039
<v Speaker 1>and snapped.

477
00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 4>That'd be a whole another level.

478
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:39.839
<v Speaker 2>So the next night they're scared, right, so they get

479
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of They get a bunch of firewood and

480
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 2>keep the fire blazing all night long, and the thing

481
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>comes back after midnight at some point, and it's on

482
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.799
<v Speaker 2>the opposite that sounds probably just the opposite of the brook.

483
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:51.799
<v Speaker 2>So there you have the castle and moat thing where

484
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the Sasquatches keep some sort of barrier between you and

485
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>it all the time. And it stayed on the hillside

486
00:24:57.240 --> 00:24:58.839
<v Speaker 2>for about an hour, they say, and they can hear

487
00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:01.519
<v Speaker 2>the branches crackle as it goes back and forth, and

488
00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 2>then it starts saying the long, sinister moan, the grating,

489
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:08.319
<v Speaker 2>long drawn out moan. These guys can't take a hint.

490
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Apparently Sasquatches don't speak English, but they're very, very effective communicators.

491
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>These guys should have known better. And of course the

492
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>next morning they said, yeah, let's get the hell out

493
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 2>of here, and so they do, or they try to.

494
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:21.519
<v Speaker 2>At least one guy never made it out, as we know,

495
00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:24.640
<v Speaker 2>we just heard the story. But yeah, so they go

496
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>out and gather all their traps, and of course what

497
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.519
<v Speaker 2>do they have a sensation of being followed. In fact,

498
00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 2>he even says, a disagreeable sensation of being followed. So

499
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>they were scared. I imagine the hair was raising on

500
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the back of that. They felt like they're being watched.

501
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.480
<v Speaker 2>The whole nine like all those typical copy and paste

502
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:46.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of sasquatch descriptors when people don't see the sasquatch

503
00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:48.079
<v Speaker 2>in the woods, but they know it's there because they

504
00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:50.880
<v Speaker 2>can feel it somehow. Probably some sort of consequence of

505
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>infosound in my opinion, but who knows what that is.

506
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:55.960
<v Speaker 4>It could be that thing that you know.

507
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>It could be that they give off a pheromone and

508
00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 1>they're scent that trigger's off something our primitive brain from

509
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>when we evolved ut to these guys and competed with

510
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>them like that that could send that same sensation of

511
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.440
<v Speaker 1>hair up pilo erection.

512
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like how the men kind of write it

513
00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:13.599
<v Speaker 2>off once once it gets daylight two, because I see

514
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 2>that again and again and again, like people come in

515
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>the museum, like if I saw one, I do this say, well,

516
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>that's all nice and cute to say, like in the

517
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.480
<v Speaker 2>daylight inside of a store, but when you're out there

518
00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>in the dark alone or with one other person, you

519
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>really don't know what you're gonna do. It's easy to

520
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>be a tough guy when you're in the daylight, you know,

521
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>I know, because I am one in the daylight, right, Yeah,

522
00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:39.920
<v Speaker 2>we all are in the daylight. Sure, people ask me like,

523
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 2>have you ever been scared, and said, dude, if you

524
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.960
<v Speaker 2>haven't been scared, like you're lying, you know, mind to

525
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 2>yourself or lyning to somebody else, Like it's scary out

526
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:47.799
<v Speaker 2>there sometimes when they're around. Just trying not to let

527
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.440
<v Speaker 2>fear stop you from doing anything unless it's tremendously stupid.

528
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:52.359
<v Speaker 4>That doesn't stop me.

529
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:58.799
<v Speaker 2>That's just wisdom stopping you. Yeah, never stopped me before. Okay,

530
00:26:58.839 --> 00:27:00.559
<v Speaker 2>So then he gets back to camp, of course, and

531
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.519
<v Speaker 2>then he doesn't see anybody until he sees that his

532
00:27:02.559 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 2>friend is already dead. His neck had been broken, by

533
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 2>the way, which is a chimpanzees and right, the necks

534
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 2>of their pary deer are found with broken necks, and

535
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 2>elk are found with broken necks, possibly done by sasquatches,

536
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>So it makes sense that his friend would be killed

537
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:20.079
<v Speaker 2>that way, right, or it could be at least so

538
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>he found his body. But the thing is like, okay,

539
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>there's there are fang marks in the throat, you know,

540
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.599
<v Speaker 2>like some sort of beasts got it. That doesn't sound

541
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 2>very sasquatchy to me, because sasquatches don't tend to have

542
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Speaker 2>long protruding canines. They tend to have flat teeth more

543
00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>like human beings in that sort of way, and the

544
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>other eighte species. But they may but tho these big ones.

545
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Doctor John Binnernoggel actually pointed this out in one of

546
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>his books, Protruding canines might be a sexually dimorphic trait,

547
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 2>like these really big male sasquatches might have these sort

548
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Speaker 2>of things. So it's possible, But that doesn't sound that

549
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.200
<v Speaker 2>doesn't ring as true as some of the other stuff does.

550
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:55.559
<v Speaker 2>And it might have just been added, you know, you.

551
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Like pronounced they're more like pronounced io teeth like kind

552
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>of a small tusk kind of. They're not like fangs

553
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>like a wolf fang.

554
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 2>No, no, you know, this might have just been added

555
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit to add to the drama of the

556
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. And after all, he is telling a quote

557
00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:12.960
<v Speaker 2>unquote goblin story, as he said, So yeah, maybe maybe

558
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that has something to do with it.

559
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, the part about how it romped and

560
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 1>gambooled around it and the ferocious glee rolling over and

561
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 1>over it, Like there's a lot of predators that do that,

562
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, they kill something, they'll get all hyped up

563
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:29.559
<v Speaker 1>and thrash it, roll on it and roll on it, you.

564
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 4>Know, Cane, I will do that. I think some of

565
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:33.359
<v Speaker 4>the big cats.

566
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Now, ma'am. Mind you, of course he didn't see the

567
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>animal do that. He's reading the sign. It's entirely possible

568
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that the sasquatch dragged the guy all around and beat

569
00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.480
<v Speaker 2>him like, you know, beat him against the ground or

570
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.799
<v Speaker 2>something like you. Oh, for sure, you could do anything

571
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 2>if you're a twelve hundred pound sasquatch, and with this

572
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 2>little two hundred pound person, you could just throw him

573
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>around and beat him against the ground and do whatever

574
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 2>you want to do with him, like like a rag doll.

575
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So he might have been just reading the sign wrong,

576
00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>because how does he know about the gleefulness of the assailant?

577
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's interpretation, that's not observation.

578
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>It just means it was like the amount of exertion

579
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.319
<v Speaker 1>put into you know what I mean, like it was

580
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 1>going out full force.

581
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>I think he was implying, right, maybe, yeah, entirely possible. Yeah,

582
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:20.079
<v Speaker 2>And then of course Bauman bailed essentially. And I guess

583
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>the last thing of interest in here is like he

584
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.119
<v Speaker 2>described the animals either half human or half devil, some

585
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.599
<v Speaker 2>great goblin beast. Well, okay, I can see how any

586
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 2>of those words might be attributed to a sasquatch. And certainly,

587
00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 2>just by looking at a few maps of Bigfoot territory,

588
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you're going to find things like Devil's Ridge or Devil's Creek,

589
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 2>or Devil's half Acre or devil this double that. You know,

590
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>there's even a few monster references here in Mountain National Forests,

591
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:48.079
<v Speaker 2>like a ogre Creek down on the calaw Wash River. Well,

592
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:49.279
<v Speaker 2>how many ogres are out here?

593
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 1>You notice how he left everything behind? I mean how

594
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 1>often you've heard that. I mean I've done that. Yeah,

595
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it was so freaked out you just grab like whatever,

596
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Like he just got his rifle mounted and wrote off

597
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 1>these guys, you know, like that's a big deal to

598
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:06.519
<v Speaker 1>leave all your beaver hives behind. You just spend all

599
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 1>this time getting out there, and the Sasquats are so

600
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>intimidating what they do that you just fully and object.

601
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Horror.

602
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>A good friend of mine actually abandoned his camp after

603
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>getting scared out of an area just last year, actually

604
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 2>last October. He left everything there, including several thousand dollars

605
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>of photography equipment.

606
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 3>There's been a couple of times, one time in particular

607
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>very far off trail, kind of near the headwaters of

608
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 3>the Chattahoochee River, we found an abandoned camp. It's just

609
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 3>a single tint, but it looked like two sleeping bags

610
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>in there, and camp tools, sterno sort of stove fuel,

611
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, a whole host of supplies just entirely abandoned

612
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and they all looked very new. So it looked like

613
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:57.039
<v Speaker 3>someone had just up and vanished, leaving hundreds and hundreds

614
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 3>of dollars worth of camping gear there.

615
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 1>It could have been so growing weed out in the

616
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>woods and like they heard a helicopter coming down low

617
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 1>or they heard sheriff's coming and they just bolted that

618
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>there's a weede garden nearby that you didn't see.

619
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been to this place like many, many times,

620
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 3>and that's why we were just going back to a

621
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 3>place we had been many times and just found this

622
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:18.960
<v Speaker 3>tent and these supplies like that. Were like, oh wow,

623
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's something frightened someone enough to leave and

624
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 3>not come back for all this stuff. So it's entirely possible.

625
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.519
<v Speaker 3>It just definitely makes you wonder what could have happened

626
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 3>that would scare someone badly enough to abandon that much

627
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 3>gear and never come back for it because it was

628
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 3>there for months, you know. I took other people to

629
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.279
<v Speaker 3>go look at it for months afterwards, and it was

630
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 3>all still there.

631
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>There's one of those not far from where we've been

632
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.839
<v Speaker 2>pulling all these footprints down an out in Moundhood National Forest. Yeah,

633
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 2>like one ridge over, but the same creek bed. There's

634
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>an abandoned camp right there with a couple of tents

635
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and a couple of sleeping bags. And I stumbled upon it,

636
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and I saying, God, they're gonna be bodies in these

637
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 2>So I had to go kick the stuff to make

638
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>sure there are no bodies in there. So kind of

639
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:57.839
<v Speaker 2>a bum out when you have to go explore an

640
00:31:57.839 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 2>abandoned camp to make sure there are no dead people there.

641
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 1>That imagine when we were in Indiana down there and

642
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>so Indiana the oh kind of in the second the

643
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 1>name of the forest, but where we set up that

644
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>camp was to be like people sleeping to lure in

645
00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 1>the big Foot and look like murdered murdered people in

646
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the camp.

647
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah. We put those mannequins and stuff out.

648
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 2>We ran into like a regular hikers on the trail

649
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and we're carrying mannequins out into the woods like a

650
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 2>mile off trim. What what did they think? It's like,

651
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.400
<v Speaker 2>what are these guys up to?

652
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, then some other people walked by and actually walked

653
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>by when they was set up.

654
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Remember in the Yeah.

655
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>The head was coming off the one mannequin with the wig,

656
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 1>like all the strew and stuff. Like, they were like, like,

657
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 1>what's going on down there? They're pretty tripped.

658
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Out, Like there's all these people hanging out in a

659
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 2>camp with like four mannequins, three or four manequins set

660
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>up around a fire, and there's like one guy sitting

661
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>in the chair next to them. Oh, man, they have

662
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 2>a good story. I wonder if that story ever has

663
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>been told with their friends, you know, funny stuff. Well,

664
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 2>there you have it. Man. The Bauman story probably one

665
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 2>of the scariest Bigfoot stories, certainly one of the most famous.

666
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 2>It's considered a classic. You can read the thing in

667
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 2>its entirety on Bobby schortz old website. Bobby, of course

668
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>has passed away now, but her website is very rich

669
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>with information. Bigfoot encounters dot com is where we read

670
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>this one from actually fantastic website. Great resource. There's some

671
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>factual things in here that you should always double check

672
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 2>with other books and whatever else. But for the most part,

673
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:33.759
<v Speaker 2>it's a great, great resource.

674
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 4>It was my first Bigfoot website. It was the first

675
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot website that I bookmarked. Who went back to repeatedly.

676
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, she did a great job. She did

677
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 2>a fantastic job. Have you seen our copy of The

678
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Wilderness Hunter at the museum, Bobs, No, it's pretty cool.

679
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I got an original pre first edition copy of The

680
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Wilderness Hunter. It was published in eight nineteen or eighteen

681
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 2>ninety two or three or something like that. Yeah, and

682
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>this particular copy that I got is a pre first edition.

683
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 2>You know how like nowadays, maybe before a book comes out,

684
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 2>you might get sent a link to the PDF of

685
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>a book that you can look at it. What back

686
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 2>in the day, they would do a small number of

687
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.639
<v Speaker 2>pre prints that they would give out to journalists so

688
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>they could review the book before it came out to

689
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 2>get some buzz going. And I somehow managed to stumble

690
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 2>on an original copy of one of those. So in

691
00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 2>the museum we have the book opened and it's under glass,

692
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 2>of course, because we don't people touching it. And you know,

693
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 2>it's from the early eighteen you know, eighteen eighty eighteen

694
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 2>nineties rather so we have a pre first edition copy

695
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>of the book as well as an analysis of the

696
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>text itself on display at the NABC. So it's kind

697
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 2>of cool.

698
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:44.119
<v Speaker 4>That's cool, that's really cool.

699
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they did have some. I went to one

700
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>of these antique books websites, you know, we can buy

701
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 2>these things. They had autograph copies too, at those like

702
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 2>three thousand dollars. I think, well, now I've got I've

703
00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.199
<v Speaker 2>got the rest of the museum to build too. I

704
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>can't afford that, right, But yeah, there you have it, man,

705
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 2>like one of the one of the best, you know,

706
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 2>goblins sort of stories out there about sasquatches, And of

707
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 2>course there are plenty of other scary stories as well.

708
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we can touch on some of those in the

709
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 2>members section here coming up in a few minutes. But yeah,

710
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.239
<v Speaker 2>can be a very very scary thing, especially if you

711
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know these things are out there. Knowing that they're

712
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>real animals takes away some of the fear, but replaces

713
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:27.800
<v Speaker 2>it with some other stuff, because I know, you know,

714
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>brown bears are real as well. May scare the hell

715
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 2>out of me, right, but that doesn't scare scare the

716
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 2>hell out of me in a sort of superstitious, spooky

717
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 2>sort of way, just like, oh yeah, don't want to

718
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:39.599
<v Speaker 2>be eaten by that, because that's what those do.

719
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess that's about it then, all right, Well,

720
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>we hope you have a very squatchy and spooky Halloween

721
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>this year, and please hit share, hit like, and if

722
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you leave us a little review that helps us spread

723
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the word get some new listeners. Yeah, so, thank you

724
00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>very much, and until next week, y'all keep it squatchy.

725
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 5>Thanks for listening to this week's episode of Bigfoot and Beyond.

726
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.880
<v Speaker 5>If you liked what you heard, please rate and review

727
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:12.280
<v Speaker 5>us on iTunes, subscribe to Bigfoot and Beyond wherever you

728
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 5>get your podcasts, and follow us on Facebook and Instagram

729
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 5>at Bigfoot and Beyond podcast. You can find us on

730
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 5>Twitter at Bigfoot and Beyond that's an N in the middle,

731
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 5>and tweet us your thoughts and questions with the hashtag

732
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 5>Bigfoot and Beyond.