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Riley, how the heck are you, buddy. 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,159 Speaker 4: Mister bank creditl doing great, Thanks for reaching out today. 34 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:34,719 Happy to be on. 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, always a blessing man. Talking ball with 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,480 eleven and two man two losses or to the number 37 00:01:40,519 --> 00:01:42,959 four team in the country. B always got an opportunity 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,159 to knock off another top twenty five team in Georgia 39 00:01:45,239 --> 00:01:46,680 Tech in the pop Tarts bawl. 40 00:01:46,719 --> 00:01:48,439 Speaker 3: It would have been glorious had we beat had we 41 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,040 played Notre Dame, it didn't. 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: It didn't happen because, uh, the Notre Dame Irish are 43 00:01:54,519 --> 00:01:56,879 now the quitting Irish. You know, when things get tough, 44 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,280 when you get ousted out of the college football playoff, 45 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:02,040 then you quit. That is the Irish way. But is 46 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,920 this one of the best seasons in BYU football history? 47 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:06,640 Where'd you rank it amongst the best? 48 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure you've dug into the topic, like in 49 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:15,159 the stats more than I have. But I mean, well, 50 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,840 so let's talk in the Klonie Sataka era. Unquestionably it's 51 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,280 better than that. I mean, all due respect to the 52 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,680 COVID year and the eleven to one record that was 53 00:02:23,759 --> 00:02:27,560 posted then, but like you can't even compare the level 54 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:31,199 of competition and strength to schedule and all that, And 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,439 then of course you had last year's eleven and two, 56 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,520 but this year's eleven and two beats last year is 57 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,759 eleven and two in that, you know, the with the 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,520 two losses, the tech that you're only lost coming to 59 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,879 a ranked upon ranked top ten of upone around the road. 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Then you're the lost coming to a conference championship game 61 00:02:47,039 --> 00:02:48,879 where last year they failed to make it. The conference 62 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,520 championship game, so unquestionably in the in the Klane Sataka era. 63 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Then my mind goes to in the Menhall era, you 64 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:58,639 got on nine, you got a six, both of those, 65 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:03,080 but the six, y'all were conference champions. 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Right, Ben, Yeah, No, six and O seven we were 67 00:03:06,039 --> 00:03:06,919 conference champions. 68 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: Oh though, that's right, they were both eleven and two. 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,479 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I thought, yeah, so we lost all giving 70 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:14,080 you a breakdown. 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: Six six we lost because at U of A to 72 00:03:18,479 --> 00:03:20,960 start the season, like a fifty yard field goal, Nick 73 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,560 Folk got us a game winning field We also had 74 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,840 like an offensive p I called us called on us. 75 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:29,319 Speaker 3: Uh that set us back and you know it was 76 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:29,919 a touchdown. 77 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: Anyway, we lost double ot to Matt Ryan ranked h 78 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,960 ranked Boston College team on the road, and then seven 79 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,159 we lost to Tulsa on the road in a shootout. 80 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: The Tulsa team was was led by oh gosh, Gus 81 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,039 mals On. 82 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:49,039 Speaker 2: That was the best offense in college football that year, 83 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:51,280 and our defense had their worst performance ever. 84 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: It was atrocious. And then we lost to U C. 85 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:57,240 L A on the road. Uh in the Rose Bowl 86 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,240 by like one, you know that. 87 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: That was oh we beat him seventeen sixteen we beat hup. 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we lost by maybe we watched by six 89 00:04:07,319 --> 00:04:11,120 or something like that. The uyu u CLA, I can't remember. Yeah, 90 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,960 we lost on the road in the Rose Bowl. 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: They called back, which what team would you say was 92 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:19,079 better to MIO six is better? 93 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:19,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. 94 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,439 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because you had a young Max Hall, 95 00:04:22,519 --> 00:04:25,519 Austin Colley, Dennis Pitta, but our offense was middle of 96 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,399 the pack in two thousand and seven. Harvey Unga also 97 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:34,800 a young Harvey Unga, so our offense although like look 98 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,439 in the loss versus UCLA at UCLA, it was our 99 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:43,959 offense that that didn't show up the game in Tulsa. 100 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,079 The defense didn't show up. So it's like, but statistically 101 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,360 throughout the year the defense was was elite. We were 102 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:54,639 top ten defense and the offense was like a top 103 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,920 forty offense roughly around there. 104 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. So I mean O nine was not conference champions, 105 00:05:01,879 --> 00:05:04,160 so even though they were eleven and two, so to me, 106 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:06,040 like maybe you give an auto six. So let's go 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:12,639 like Kilani, so this year beats last year, so let's 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,319 talk about so let's go so this year, oh six 109 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,439 is in the running. I don't know where you put 110 00:05:19,199 --> 00:05:21,560 twenty and one the twelve and two years. Just the 111 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:23,759 way that ended put such a bad taste in everybody's mouth. 112 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,000 But dude, that was pretty magical and like that Crochton 113 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,600 offense and Luke Staley and Dolman and Doug Jolly and 114 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,639 Reno and everybody doing their thing like that was I 115 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:35,639 remember those guys being on being on Sports Center every 116 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:40,399 every week. But and I think they won the conference championship, 117 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:43,439 but I'm not sure that anyway can my criteria you 118 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,519 have to have you know, Bay has had their share. 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,519 It has to have been the top ten finish, which 120 00:05:47,639 --> 00:05:49,639 you know, I don't think YU will backdoor They're way 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,800 and who knows, maybe if they put you know, if 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,879 they Beta Georgia Tech in the in the ball and 123 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,800 a couple of these teams on the back half of 124 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,480 the bracket, you know, don't show up in the College 125 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,920 football Playoff. Maybe BYU like breaks in them. But the 126 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,240 great thing about playing at BYU is the criteria is 127 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,439 extremely high. So to me, like conference champion, which unfortunately 128 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,920 wasn't accomplished this year, and then a top ten finish. 129 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,160 So I don't know how many teams meet that criteria. 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:15,879 I'm pretty sure. 131 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: Obviously eighty four. 132 00:06:18,759 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 5: Does I'm pretty sure ninety six did, I think did 133 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,319 did they do that in eighty two? 134 00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: Eighty three was really good, eighty four obviously in the 135 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,639 national championship year. Eighty five was really good. Nineteen eighty 136 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:38,360 was a really good season with your McMahon. 137 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:43,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Conference champion championships matter like conference championships matter 138 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,800 to me, And I think that's what's broken about the 139 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:49,319 state of college football is the dude, I am beside 140 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,680 myself that Miami got in like didn't even play in 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,199 the conference championship game, you know. 142 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,319 Speaker 5: I don't Duke is your conference champion? Like how did 143 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,279 they not get anyway? So I won't get started on 144 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:03,839 all that. The question was where does this rankling BYU? 145 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,600 It maybe is sitting there around just us, like back 146 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,879 of the knackin it's maybe sitting there around five, four 147 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:17,000 or five. But the reasons why it's not top three 148 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,560 for me, I mean, obviously eighty four is one, you 149 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:22,199 were the national champion, right And the reason why it's 150 00:07:22,279 --> 00:07:24,439 not right there behind that for me is they didn't 151 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,800 quite get the jobs done as far as becoming a champion, 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,639 a conference champion. And then you know the two losses 153 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,319 BYU has had undefeated and one lost seasons previously. So 154 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,480 there you go. There's my there's my ranking of it. 155 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,319 But dude, from the start, this might be this might 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,279 be the absolute best from where everybody had us pegged 157 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,120 in August. And I'm not talking about the media, because 158 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,879 I'm pretty sure they did away with the preseason media 159 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,319 full but I'm just talking about like losing reds laugh 160 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:55,839 and not knowing who the QB is going to be 161 00:07:55,879 --> 00:07:59,360 in expectations like bottoming out, and everybody's saying, yeah, I'd 162 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:01,240 be happy with six wins if we could just get 163 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:04,439 to Bowl eligibility, right, and now here we were, you know, 164 00:08:04,519 --> 00:08:07,720 eleven and two playing for the conference championship. It's an 165 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,839 amazing job by these players and these coaches. 166 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:15,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, what were your what was your like early preseason predictions, 167 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,560 all things considered, right, Yeah. 168 00:08:18,439 --> 00:08:20,639 Speaker 4: I said, I said eight. 169 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: This was even to me, this was quarterback agnostic because 170 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:28,319 I just felt really strongly that the defense, which was 171 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:31,040 the strength of the team last year, was very good 172 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:34,440 and they had made moves to to be better. So 173 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,399 I had said, you know, I'm pegging at eight. I said, 174 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,639 my most optimistic case is his ten so that was 175 00:08:41,759 --> 00:08:43,600 my quarter. So I wasn't that off, but I was. 176 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:46,240 I was blue goggling, And for me, it all stends 177 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,240 to the fact that, like, we are not the Cougars 178 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,720 of the eighties, when, by the way, the defenses in 179 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:54,200 the eighties were awesome too. You don't become a double 180 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:57,080 digit winning team if you're not really good on both 181 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,799 sides of the ball. But I really felt like this 182 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,919 defense was special enough to carry this team this year, 183 00:09:02,919 --> 00:09:05,960 which is why Mike Floor maybe didn't go as as 184 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:06,879 low as others. 185 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,279 Speaker 4: And I think it proved to be true that the defense. 186 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: Was definitely the rock and the most consistent performing of 187 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:16,039 the three phases for this team. But man bear Bachmeier's 188 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,879 consistency and the offensive production, especially in the run game, 189 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:21,720 and LJ. Martin becoming the offensive Conference Player of the year, 190 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,639 like all those things. Like Bro, if you would have 191 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,799 said to me, we would have the offense the conference 192 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:29,279 Offensive player of the year on our team, I would 193 00:09:29,279 --> 00:09:33,000 have been like sweet. So you know, the defense did 194 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,759 probably what me personally expected it to do, and the 195 00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:40,360 offense far exceeded my expectations, which were pretty mediocre for 196 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,600 them at the outset. 197 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: That Lash's haired left former b YU Great quarterback Riley 198 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,720 Nelson here on your Utah ESPN Ready network keeping up 199 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,679 with the cougar segment brought to you by Odeon Men's 200 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,919 where Odion menswear dot Com. 201 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: What do you make of the private equity deal? 202 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: I know you're in the kind of the insurance world 203 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,200 which cross pollinates a little bit with the business and 204 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,240 finance world. You represent a number of individuals out there, 205 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,200 probably in private equity or those VC firms. What's your 206 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:15,840 opinion on this new foray with private equity and athletic departments? 207 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,840 You know allowing their well, university is allowing their athletic 208 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:24,519 departments to split off, creating LLCs for profit LLCs in 209 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,120 order to stay competitive in the college football landscape. 210 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,279 Speaker 5: I feel pretty good anybody who will listen for on 211 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:34,320 this topic for the last ten years, I said, this 212 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,240 is where it's going. The all of it, and not 213 00:10:38,399 --> 00:10:41,480 all of athletics, but at least football and basketball at 214 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,000 certain places will all just be licensed and you know, 215 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:47,720 they'll rent the facilities, will be owned, the brand will 216 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:50,039 be owned by the universities, but they will not be 217 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,159 university employees running them or doing those To me, I 218 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,679 thought that this was the endgame. It's the only logical 219 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:59,600 endgame for it too. The only thing I want to 220 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,600 say is that I do not ever want to hear 221 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,279 the term student athlete again, that's not the case. 222 00:11:06,399 --> 00:11:09,159 Speaker 3: You may have athlete student. 223 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: No, not even that, guys, Joe Ben Ben, you know 224 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:16,000 as well as I do, like it's a joke. These 225 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,039 dudes are ninety percent of their courses are online, which 226 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:23,039 you know, well, whatever I was, I'll just say it 227 00:11:23,039 --> 00:11:26,320 because I paused. But like online work, you verifying that 228 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,120 the person who's actually matriculated that class is actually the 229 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:31,440 one submitting the work online, we don't have a great 230 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,039 system for verifying that. I just like, let's not fall 231 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,080 Let's be okay with Europe that like goes and identifies 232 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:40,360 Messi at eleven years old down in Argentina and rolls 233 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:43,240 them in is in their you know, academy at fourteen, 234 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,559 and yeah, you know he probably got a GED's worth 235 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,759 of education, But no one was trying to parade around 236 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,720 like the King with no clothes saying that, you know, 237 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,919 Messi was in Varses' academy to get a world class education, 238 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,200 like miss me with all that garbage. He was there 239 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,919 to become an elite athlete. And that's what these kids 240 00:12:02,399 --> 00:12:04,759 are now. They graduate high school and they are now 241 00:12:04,879 --> 00:12:08,159 going to these programs to become elite athletes, and those 242 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,679 because the rosters are so big and there are so 243 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:14,240 many teams, I will concede that you still have a 244 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,799 large portion of these rosters that are there that are studying, 245 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,879 that are getting good grades and are doing both education 246 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,039 and not But that's a large portion of the roster, 247 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,200 not a large portion of the twenty two starters on 248 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:31,440 offense and defenses. In fact, it's probably a very slim 249 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:34,559 minority any of those guys who are actually you know, 250 00:12:34,759 --> 00:12:39,879 pursuing academics at a high level at best to further 251 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,159 their professional prospects. They're doing networking and you know, establishing 252 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:46,440 relationships and things like that that they can call on 253 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,559 when they're playing careers over whether that be at the 254 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,679 end of their football eligibility or whether that be at 255 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,480 the end of some professional But like, there's no academic 256 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,759 book cleaning in there, So let's just end Like I'm 257 00:12:57,799 --> 00:13:00,080 the little kid in the crowd that's pointing out that 258 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,679 the king has no close and I know I'm not 259 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:05,240 the first, but like miss me with the academic portion 260 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,960 of all this. And let's call this what it is, 261 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,200 a farm system for like college football. This is the 262 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:13,440 this is the first major domino to fall. For this 263 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,399 to true, we can all get rid of the facade 264 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,799 and all get rid of like trying to convince ourselves 265 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:20,519 to college football is anything. 266 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:22,399 Speaker 4: Other than a farm system for the NFL. 267 00:13:22,639 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 5: So there you go. There's my rant. I hope that 268 00:13:26,159 --> 00:13:27,679 I hope that the listeners enjoyed it. 269 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:28,759 Speaker 3: I love it. 270 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:32,879 Speaker 2: Man, great breakdown. Uh is it like what happens if 271 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,919 this fails? If it's not profitable? You know that's the 272 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:43,879 snare that some bway fans are wondering. You know, it's 273 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:45,960 all it's all, it's all top line revenue. They're going 274 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,679 to be taking their percentage off the top and no 275 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:49,639 matter what happens. 276 00:13:49,919 --> 00:13:54,919 Speaker 5: But but you said profitable, since professional sports is not 277 00:13:55,039 --> 00:13:58,799 even about running profitably, right, Like, if you're lucky enough 278 00:13:58,919 --> 00:14:03,279 to be in mega markets like LA or like Houston, 279 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,600 but Houston hasn't had a good franchise in forever. Like 280 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,840 but basically like Ellert and New York can win a championship, Yeah, 281 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:11,200 you can actually get some cash flow. But to be 282 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:14,879 ask ran Smith, like the business being in the business 283 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:18,720 of professional sports now is not about profitable revenues. It's 284 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:23,120 not about the marginal profit on a dollar earned. It 285 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,039 is about valuations. So this private equity is not private 286 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,919 equity firm is not investing in University of Utah's athletics 287 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:33,799 in order to generate you know, millions of dollars of 288 00:14:34,799 --> 00:14:38,360 profit that they can then be reinvested or distributed to shareholders. No, 289 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:42,200 like they're simply investing five hundred million dollars or whatever 290 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,679 it is, sitting on it while everybody else offs on. 291 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,799 This is a play to be the first one to 292 00:14:48,879 --> 00:14:50,879 be on the ground floor of a market. So they're 293 00:14:50,919 --> 00:14:52,399 gonna be the first ones that's going to make this. 294 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,519 This is going to continue to dominate over the next 295 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,720 ten years, and then they're gonna flip you know, their universe. 296 00:14:58,799 --> 00:15:00,879 This private equi firm is going to flip their University 297 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:04,279 of Utah arrangement for another big paycheck and kind of 298 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,720 it's anyway, it's all about valuation. It's not about profitability. 299 00:15:08,759 --> 00:15:10,279 And part of the reason why I say that is 300 00:15:10,559 --> 00:15:12,600 not only has pro sports not done that, which is 301 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:16,240 operated in the free market environment for decades and since 302 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,080 it's an exception, but look across these are publicly state 303 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,360 funded schools. You can look at the books of ninety 304 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,279 plus percent of all these major programs and none of 305 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,080 them run in the black. They all run in the red. 306 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:31,679 So why would someone be willing to write a five 307 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:34,519 hundred million dollar check, you know, for the access to 308 00:15:34,559 --> 00:15:37,360 get on the ends on this right? Well, the reason 309 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:39,440 why they're doing that is because they know whatever the 310 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:41,600 valuation that that five hundred million, they're going to be 311 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:43,559 able to sell it for two and a half to 312 00:15:43,679 --> 00:15:46,480 three x in eight to ten years. So that's the 313 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:49,200 game at play here, and you know, it is what 314 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,759 it is. We're all the suckers, you know, we're all 315 00:15:51,799 --> 00:15:54,399 the suckers that will continue to watch. Like I don't 316 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,120 think live sporting events are the only thing that draw 317 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,639 live eyeballs for advertisers. Everything else is watched on demand 318 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,200 and ads can be skipped or ignored or passed over. 319 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:08,120 But your only captive audience now now these days is 320 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,759 live sporting events, beginning with the NFL college football right 321 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,720 behind it. And so you know, as long as all 322 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:18,519 of us are willing to tune in on Saturdays and Sundays, 323 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:22,519 this financial model will be sustainable. And by that I 324 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:25,440 mean that you can run unprofitable businesses but then flip 325 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:28,360 for higher valuations as long as you you know, are 326 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:31,440 able to stay alive over whatever the holding period is. 327 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: What do you think Utah is going to do with 328 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:37,200 this newfound cash, this influx of resources. 329 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,799 Speaker 5: No wasted the same way that college that you know, 330 00:16:42,039 --> 00:16:46,879 in the old model, colleges wasted state funded like state taxes, right, 331 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,000 they wasted public or they wasted they wasted donor dollars. 332 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,759 And when I say wasted, sorry, I just should say 333 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:56,440 like they'll overpay for things. There's just no there's gonna 334 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,960 be there, That's what I'm saying. There's no on ability like, oh, 335 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,599 tax holders are gonna you know, especially in these big conferences. 336 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,559 You want to go try and get some legislation passed 337 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,400 that Curbs in Alabama, that Curbs is spending for the 338 00:17:11,519 --> 00:17:14,400 rolling tide in their and their football facilities. Like I 339 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,079 can't think of what would be a less popular proposition 340 00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:21,640 than that. And so I don't be wasted. They'll be 341 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,960 reinvested into facilities. The only thing this time is that 342 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:27,839 it's not all going to go to facilities because a 343 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,200 lot of it's going to have to go to funding 344 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,279 the roster, right, so it'll go to funding the roster, 345 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,160 it'll go to kind of facilities upgrades, whatever, whatever the 346 00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:37,279 latest trend is. You know, when I was coming up, 347 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,079 Oregon had just started where they were wearing a different 348 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,880 jersey every game, and so like that was the arms 349 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,279 race is like people were starting to like make locker 350 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,240 rooms a little bit. They were. They're funny enough, like 351 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,279 when I was coming up, and well, Lee, you and 352 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,680 I you will remember that, like getting a locker like 353 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:55,480 the pro that was like an open locker and not 354 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:58,279 an actual locker with a with like a lock on 355 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,799 it like that. That and that was like the big 356 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,480 facilities upgrade. And then the big arms race was like, hey, 357 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,240 we wear multiple uniforms throughout the year, and you get 358 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,720 three or four different pair of cleats. That's what it 359 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,240 was twenty years ago. Now it's you know, salaries and 360 00:18:14,319 --> 00:18:18,440 signing bonuses and nil deals. But you know they'll they'll 361 00:18:18,559 --> 00:18:24,079 just spend it wildly on whatever, on whatever the arms 362 00:18:24,279 --> 00:18:26,279 you know, whatever. The thing to attract talent, both in 363 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,039 the in the form of coaches and players will be 364 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,920 and if the private equity firms here's here's the difference, right, 365 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,920 because everybody here's private equity and they think like leverage 366 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,799 buyouts are buying buying a business. It's a distressed asset. 367 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,839 For pennies on the dollar. You know, you do a 368 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,279 big reduction in force, you improve the profit, you take 369 00:18:44,319 --> 00:18:46,640 the company from losing money and being on a lifeline, 370 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,519 and through very scrupulous financial measures and operational efficiencies you're 371 00:18:51,519 --> 00:18:54,240 able to do that. Well, the problem is like this 372 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,799 is not this is Adam Smith, in visible head of 373 00:18:57,839 --> 00:19:00,599 the free market has been tough and call it football 374 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,960 largely because it's again, these are institutions. They are subsidized 375 00:19:05,319 --> 00:19:09,759 by state and federal governments and anytime you have the government. Okay, Ben, 376 00:19:09,839 --> 00:19:12,759 I'm gonna stop. I'll do my own podcast from the 377 00:19:12,839 --> 00:19:16,680 economics of government intervention and subsidizing markets and the reason 378 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,079 why they refuse to run an efficient But your question 379 00:19:20,279 --> 00:19:21,519 was how are they going to spend it. They're going 380 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:23,440 to spend it largely on rosters. They're going to do 381 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:25,519 what they need to do to get their facilities to 382 00:19:25,599 --> 00:19:28,559 try and get coaching them players in here and keep 383 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:32,359 their nose above water. As the other big dogs like Texas, 384 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,200 Ohio State Michigan, Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Notre Dame and all 385 00:19:36,279 --> 00:19:38,640 these other guys follow suit behind them in the next 386 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,519 three to five years. 387 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:41,599 Speaker 3: No, it's funny. 388 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: I've had I've had debates with individuals about these industries 389 00:19:46,079 --> 00:19:48,160 that are too big to fail. Right, Obviously, you had 390 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,759 the market crash in two thousand and eight, the financial system, 391 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:55,759 the housing market crash. You have the car manufacturer too 392 00:19:55,839 --> 00:20:00,440 big to fail, and you have this subsidization with pay 393 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,359 your dollars, especially for these state run institutions that are 394 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,440 just unscrupulously and without any sort of accountabilities, spending and 395 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,000 just mortgaging everything for their athletics department, and and then 396 00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:14,359 the university just keeps on bailing them out because it's 397 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,279 a marketing tool in the front porch of the of 398 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,000 the university. 399 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: And if they win in sport, they. 400 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,319 Speaker 2: Get more they get more students, and they can elevate 401 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,839 and elevate student fees and all those things. Right, so 402 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,960 I was hoping it would bust. But who's bailing them out? 403 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,200 Private equity. 404 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,319 Speaker 5: So all of this so that a professor who hasn't 405 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,079 been published in ten years can be protected by tenure 406 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,440 and be paid as hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yeah, 407 00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:40,960 it just makes me sick. 408 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:44,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting study, no doubt about it. And 409 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,079 now private equity comes in to kind of bail it 410 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,319 all out, So like, what what is the what are 411 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:54,799 universities gonna gonna do? Now? I do think it's actually 412 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,799 you look at the PAC twelve and how it it's 413 00:20:57,079 --> 00:21:03,400 no longer exists administrations, chancellors, presidents of these universities that 414 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,599 are academics. They shouldn't be competing in corporate America. They 415 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,759 are incompetence comparative to those in the sports sports media 416 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:17,359 world and the entrepreneurial world, the private equity VC world, Like, 417 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,599 they just aren't built that way through academics. So they're 418 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,440 competing in a world in which they have no core 419 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:24,559 competencies and that's why they fail. 420 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 5: Here's my one worry though, because I'm pretty sure it's 421 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,519 a joint venture, right, like the University of Utah didn't 422 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,559 hand this over whole horridly. So here's what I'm worried 423 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:36,559 about as a taxpayer is now, rather than have to 424 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,839 your point about having these academics who have come up 425 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,559 and now our administrators of universities of institutions of learning 426 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,519 and academics. You just alluded to the fact that they're 427 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:50,440 not experts in sports or sports entertainment or business for 428 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:52,920 that matter, but guests. Who are the sharks that work 429 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000 to these private equity So now it's not that we're 430 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,440 just you know, trying to hold a president accountable for 431 00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:03,279 their for their use of taxpayer dollars in funding an 432 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:06,240 athletic program. Now we've got private equity sharks. So yeah, 433 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,680 they're coming to the table with some of their own 434 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,599 mate But if you think that there is going to 435 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,160 any way be any separation between like the private equity 436 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,960 is going to be putting even in my opinion, the 437 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,599 heat will be turned up and there will be even 438 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,359 more pressure put on the university to pony up for 439 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,240 athletics with private equity involved. When before and it was 440 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,480 just the university, it was a little bit cleaner lines. 441 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:30,200 Now you have more skilled negotiators, more scrupulous you know, 442 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,279 financial professionals coming up university putting the heat on to 443 00:22:34,759 --> 00:22:37,599 pay their share to pitch in from there. So you know, 444 00:22:37,839 --> 00:22:41,319 we're but hey, man, I love being able to start 445 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,119 my Saturday at ten am and go until about one 446 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:49,559 thirty am and just be mindlessly entertained by this wonderful 447 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:52,359 sport we call football. I'm not gonna if that means 448 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,000 that my taxes, you know, have to increase in order 449 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,279 to fund University of Utah, then so be it. I 450 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,599 guess right, because I'm not going to be the first 451 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,440 one to waycott. 452 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: I love it. 453 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: Riley Nelson, Riley, just real briefly give us an update 454 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:09,720 on work on family. How can we get a hold 455 00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:11,960 of you for all of your specialty services you offer? 456 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know this is part of your businessman. I 457 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,599 got rid of my Twitter. 458 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,279 Speaker 5: I just couldn't. 459 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: I couldn't. 460 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 5: I was listening too much time on there, and I 461 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,920 always tended eight. Yeah, so. 462 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,319 Speaker 3: You're no longer there. When did you get off? I'm 463 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,160 looking for you right now, and you're gone. 464 00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. I deleted my account. I didn't just reactivated either. 465 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 4: I deleted it off. 466 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,279 Speaker 5: I deleted And so I was just thinking. So my 467 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,960 oldest son turned eight, I go eight six four into 468 00:23:40,839 --> 00:23:44,599 I believe, and I believe that data supports the notion 469 00:23:44,839 --> 00:23:50,559 that any infinite, any algorithmic infinite scroll model is First 470 00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:55,039 of all, it's like it's extremely harmful for kids and youth. 471 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:58,519 So and then and then obviously it's you know, it's 472 00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:01,079 extremely unproductive. It can be got for adults too. For me, 473 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,079 it was just an unproductive waste of time and something 474 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,480 that drew my attention from more valuable pursuits like raising 475 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:09,759 my kids. But the biggest thing was I didn't want 476 00:24:09,759 --> 00:24:12,880 to be a hypocrite for my kids. I'm not planning. 477 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,240 I'm planning on hoold now as long as I can. 478 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,279 Like my goal, I don't know if I and there's 479 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,000 parents who are on the next stage of life for 480 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,799 me who are probably gonna laugh at this, but like 481 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,519 my goal is to try and plan is try and 482 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:29,960 get my kids like graduating on missions without an Internet 483 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,599 enabled phone, because I'll have messaging and that'll be a communication. 484 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:34,319 Speaker 4: That's my goal. 485 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: I don't know I'll last there, but you know, rather 486 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,559 shoot for the goal and fall a little bit short 487 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,640 than like throw my hands up. And my kids got 488 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,400 an internet enabled phone at nine years old. 489 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: Right. 490 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 5: So, But my thing was I cannot I cannot impose that. 491 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,680 My my house would be a house of hypocrisy if 492 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,759 I were to try and impose that or my children 493 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,160 and not live by it myself. So I got rid 494 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,519 of everything out there that has an algorithmic, an infinity 495 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:02,160 algorithm fee. So the big long way of saying, if 496 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,119 you want to find me, find me on LinkedIn. The 497 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,279 good thing is the feat on LinkedIn is so bad. 498 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:09,440 There's no temptation to scroll that thing. You go on LinkedIn, 499 00:25:09,599 --> 00:25:12,319 you spend the absolute minimum time you have to on there, 500 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,720 and you're out of there. But I do use it 501 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:18,079 as a communication tool, so my email's posted on there. Obviously, 502 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,759 you can message me there. I do maintain a Facebook 503 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:24,000 profile to keep in touch with the folks from the mission, 504 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,160 and I've got some family that's international. That seems to 505 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,880 be the easiest way to do that, So you can 506 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,279 message me on Facebook. Although like disclaimer, I only ever 507 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,680 monitor that. I do my LinkedIn at least weekly. My 508 00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:39,319 Facebook is maybe like quarterly at best, maybe two three 509 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,079 times a year. But work's good. Kids good, We're in 510 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,279 the middle of wrestling season. It's great. I don't know 511 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,720 if my kids will end up being wrestlers, but I 512 00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:49,559 cannot think of a better sport to teach them like 513 00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:54,359 toughness and perseverance and being able to work through uncomfortable situations. 514 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,960 So I encourage anybody out there, if you got little 515 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,839 kids like throw them in your local little wrestling class. 516 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:02,680 It's been so good for my boys building confidence. It's 517 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,319 not just about the struggles either. I've seen them take 518 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,200 huge leaps of confidence, especially if the boys aren't like 519 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,400 naturally like my boys are kind of long and skinny, 520 00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,319 and so they lose at this stage. If they advance, 521 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,759 you know, then they're gonna have the leverage advantage. But 522 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,359 like at this stage, kind of the more muscly, stout 523 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,440 built kid, naturally built kids tend to do better, and 524 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:24,400 so my boys kind of take their lesson, but they 525 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,640 come back the next day and fight. All this anyway, 526 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:28,880 it's all great stuff. So that's what our family's doing, 527 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,359 and obviously just gearing up for the holiday season. Spend 528 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,519 some good time with the fam. Watch the coops take 529 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:39,079 care of the yellow jackets. We were I mean, that 530 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,400 was such a smart play to go in the pop 531 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,720 Tard Bowl because we were so tempted to go down there. 532 00:26:44,839 --> 00:26:48,160 Like I'm sure a big portion of Kugarnation was his 533 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,400 book Our Disney World trip along with the ball Game trip. 534 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,559 But my wife, my wife decided we're not quite there, 535 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,240 We're not quite old enough. Right at eight six four two. 536 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,960 That's that's an adventure that's maybe a little bit beyond 537 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,279 our scope. But just planning to hunker down this holiday 538 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,079 season and enjoy time with the family and enjoy the Cougars. 539 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: Oh. 540 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,559 Speaker 5: By the way, Ben, speaking of enjoying the Cougars, shout 541 00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,079 out to the basketball team. That was incredible one day. 542 00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:14,359 I know I'm not a basketball guy, but maybe rather 543 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,119 than ranting about the economics of college football, I'd love 544 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240 to just give my flowers to this basketball team. Do 545 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,160 They are special? Not only like talented, but the roster 546 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:25,480 construction is like something we've never seen. And then, Bro, 547 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,640 when your best player is a dog who's willing to 548 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,319 do it on both ends of the floor and he 549 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,920 wants those big moments anyway, hoops is awesome. World's pretty 550 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,680 good man. Thanks so much for having me on today. 551 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:40,759 Speaker 2: Riley, love and appreciate you. A renaissance man. You're a 552 00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,799 man after my own heart. I've already looked at gab 553 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,079 phones for my four year old and two year old. 554 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,000 I'm like, I'm never giving them a smartphone. Bro, we 555 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,880 could go on for days about certain. 556 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 5: About it. 557 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, I love you, and I invite everyone 558 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,240 to connect with you on LinkedIn. Nobody does it better. 559 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,519 Riley Nelson love it. Appreciate you buddy, Thanks so much. 560 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: Ben. 561 00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:06,799 Speaker 2: There you go, the lesser shared Lefty. We'll go to break, guys. 562 00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:09,240 But tis the season to be given, guys, and I 563 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,359 would like to invite you to give. If you have 564 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,319 the means, help those that are in need right now 565 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,039 at the road home this holiday season with much needed blankets, coats, shoes, 566 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:20,720 hats and gloves. Drop off donations at any Rocky Mountain 567 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:24,839 Chevy dealer. Visit espnefan dot com for dealership location. Spread 568 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,759 the warmth and help others find their way home. 569 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: Let's go to break. 570 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: Coming up next, welcome in a special guest, a friend 571 00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:35,000 of mine, a friend of the BYU athletics program. He's 572 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,640 been a donor, he's been a CFO for Apex, Now Vivin, 573 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,680 a CEO of New Vie, entrepreneur Keith Nelson joining us next. 574 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,880 I want to get his thoughts on this private equity deal, 575 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,880 what it means for college athletics, what it means for 576 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,799 the University of Utha athletics from a financial standpoint, What 577 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:52,200 does he see, what is he like? 578 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,359 Speaker 3: What does he dislike about this deal that coming up next. 579 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,480 Keith Nelson. This is Cougar Sports on one of three 580 00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:57,480 nine ninety eight point three