Speaker 1: All right, I'm here with Eddie Dean of The Dean Show.
Speaker 1: I did your show about a year ago. I had
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how big it was, and just so
Speaker 1: many people mentioned it. I thought we were doing some small,
Speaker 1: little podcast because this is like, you know, at your jam,
Speaker 1: I had Jus Seminar and you're like that podcast. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're a super cool guy. So of course, and then
Speaker 1: but just a great, great response, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I had, you have a massive show. I realized. So
Speaker 1: first off, just how long did you started your show
Speaker 1: and what made you start it?
Speaker 2: It's good to be here with you, brother. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was back when YouTube just started. That was about two
Speaker 2: thousand and six. That's when I started the program. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was at a time when I really wasn't planning.
Speaker 2: YouTube had just started, and I was at that point
Speaker 2: I was looking for a way too, because I was
Speaker 2: now I'm gonna touch upon a topic that some people
Speaker 2: hear this name and whatnot, and then they're like, who
Speaker 2: you got on your show? You got one of these
Speaker 2: Muslims on the program. But I started the show because
Speaker 2: you know, at that time, I started because I got
Speaker 2: to go into this because the context, and I'm giving
Speaker 2: you the context. I started practicing. You know, I got
Speaker 2: to a point in my life where I started to
Speaker 2: search for the purpose of life.
Speaker 1: Why we're here.
Speaker 2: I'm getting older now, gray hairs are kicking in. You know,
Speaker 2: you've been to all the clubs, partying and whatnot, and
Speaker 2: I used to be. I used to run my own
Speaker 2: nightclub back in the day. And from there, I started
Speaker 2: searching looking make a long story short, I after I
Speaker 2: looked at all the different religions, I found that Islam
Speaker 2: provided me all the rational logical evidence that it was
Speaker 2: the truth, you know, and Islam simply means.
Speaker 1: You weren't in Islam. You're Muslim young.
Speaker 2: Well my kind of, but yeah, my parents come from Bosnia,
Speaker 2: that's Muslim. But nobody was practicing or anything. So anyways,
Speaker 2: I looked into it and I start, you know, I saw, okay,
Speaker 2: this to me everything I needed to know that it's
Speaker 2: the truth, you know, based on on reason, logic evidence
Speaker 2: and anyways, Then from there, I was like, it was
Speaker 2: so once I started practicing, I saw what Islam promoted, peace, love, mercy, justice,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, man, I said, there's so
Speaker 2: many misconceptions out there. There's so much propaganda against it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, the best way to you know,
Speaker 2: combat that is through through media, you know, through doing
Speaker 2: what we're doing here, having discussions and whatnot. And and
Speaker 2: that's what kicked off the program was was me starting
Speaker 2: the program for this for this purpose was interviewing people
Speaker 2: who are from Italian background, Polish background, getting people's stories
Speaker 2: so people can see from themselves, you know, people's journeys
Speaker 2: and take take from it if they wanted if not.
Speaker 2: And then and then we also were going through, step
Speaker 2: by step many of the misconceptions I would bring on scholars.
Speaker 2: And then we tackled what has you had? What is
Speaker 2: the slam basics of Islam so people can be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now instead of you know, going to to to the
Speaker 2: people who hate Islam and the you know, the media
Speaker 2: to give a false betrayal of it, you know, I thought, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm a Muslim. Now, I'm a Muslim. Now, let me
Speaker 2: let me go ahead and let instead of Fox News
Speaker 2: representing us, let.
Speaker 1: Me let me go ahead and do that myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so great. Now we have the opportunity to speak
Speaker 1: directly to the people. That's why I started my podcast
Speaker 1: because like, oh, there's ideas I want to get out there,
Speaker 1: and no one's doing it. And then I realized, wait,
Speaker 1: I could just go and start it and me, I'm
Speaker 1: actually pro Islam. I get attacked for that sometimes, But
Speaker 1: like I've had so many as a friends, I've been
Speaker 1: to a lot of these countries, and of course there's
Speaker 1: awful Muslims out there, like there's awful people of any
Speaker 1: you know, faith, but there's so many good Muslims. They're
Speaker 1: so family oriented, they take their religion more serious. So
Speaker 1: overall I've had great, great experiences and interactions. One thing, obviously,
Speaker 1: if you know, like hospitality, if you visit these Muslim countries,
Speaker 1: they treat you and see like two good. You feel
Speaker 1: almost weird sometimes, like the hospitality is like the best
Speaker 1: hospitality I've ever seen. And there's just there's so many positives.
Speaker 1: And Muslims again, like your kids so polite and like
Speaker 1: well mannered. It's you guys are very good at not
Speaker 1: all obviously exceptions, but Muslims are very good at Cuban
Speaker 1: family units together and like big family unions, no one
Speaker 1: ever talks about the positives. They just they talk about
Speaker 1: the negatives. I think it's deliberate. I think there's a
Speaker 1: campaign trying to drive Christianity and Islam against each other,
Speaker 1: which I thought about that.
Speaker 2: You know, when you said something, you said, I'm pro Islam,
Speaker 2: I mean just for people to know. It's like saying,
Speaker 2: I'm pro submission to the will of God, because that's
Speaker 2: what literally, what Islam means. Islam means to acquire peace
Speaker 2: by submitting yourself to one God.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 2: So you said, pro Islam, pro sub pro submission to the.
Speaker 1: Will of God. That's what you said.
Speaker 2: Because you'll say Islam and people will get freaked out, like,
Speaker 2: what's that some Arab religion?
Speaker 1: You know, A lot a lot of my followers, you know,
Speaker 1: aren't Islamic. So what does all that mean? Real quick?
Speaker 2: A law simply an Arabic word that means the God
Speaker 2: Arab Christians also, who if you open the Bible, the
Speaker 2: Arabic Bible, just right there on the first page of Genesis,
Speaker 2: you'll have a law right there in the Arabic by Jews.
Speaker 2: Also Christians use this term a law and it is
Speaker 2: simply the creator of that heavens and earth. That's it.
Speaker 2: It's interesting we were talking about earlier Jesus who spoke Aramaic.
Speaker 2: He would say, if you say, how do you say
Speaker 2: God in Arabic the language of Jesus, allaha allahaa.
Speaker 1: People can do this right now, go and see allaha.
Speaker 2: So that's an Aramaic. But if you go now in
Speaker 2: Arabic Allah allaha allah, this is the Creator God Almighty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'll say, you guys have tremendous love and respect
Speaker 1: for Jesus. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So you could say we're pro Christ, pro Christ
Speaker 2: because Christ comes from the Greek word Christos, which comes
Speaker 2: from the Hebrew word Messi Messiah, the anointed one. So
Speaker 2: we believe as Muslims that he was the Messiah, he
Speaker 2: was chosen by God. We believe he was a prophet,
Speaker 2: a messenger, and he was delivering the same message as
Speaker 2: Abraham and Moses and all the other prophets to work
Speaker 2: ship the one Creator God Almighty.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think, guy, I believe there's one God. It's
Speaker 1: not one organized religion, but I believe there's there's one God.
Speaker 2: Just one. That's it.
Speaker 1: You know, Early on, I maybe I didn't really know
Speaker 1: any Muslims. I was never like extremely anti Muslim, but
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit nine to eleven just because there's
Speaker 1: a media blitz just so heavy against you guys. It's
Speaker 1: like you're treated like terrorists. I mean I never like
Speaker 1: fell for it, but maybe like a tiny bit, but
Speaker 1: I could see the demonization. But then I started meeting
Speaker 1: the Muslims and they were the kindest, most helpful people,
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is all like propaganda.
Speaker 2: What happened to Building seven?
Speaker 1: Yeah that was right? No, no, no, that's a whole
Speaker 1: different rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: But you see, like you know, this is a set
Speaker 2: up propaganda that now you got to go ahead use
Speaker 2: somebody as a scapegoat. And I think this just by itself,
Speaker 2: Islam condemns things like this. All right. There's a clear
Speaker 2: verse in The Crowd, chapter five, verse thirty two that
Speaker 2: says killing one innocent human being is as if you
Speaker 2: killed the world, saving one in this in life, as
Speaker 2: you say, the world. So you have a right to
Speaker 2: defend yourself, your family, your land, just like you know,
Speaker 2: good old America, right with somebody come Chinese come over here,
Speaker 2: trying to take our our houses, you know, take our land.
Speaker 1: We're gonna fight them.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't have to say it, you got it, Yeah.
Speaker 1: You actually have. I've done a couple of podcasts gone
Speaker 1: deep on nine to eleven and it's uh, yeah done.
Speaker 1: I've done some deep digs in nine to eleven a
Speaker 1: few of my podcasts, and it's in my view and
Speaker 1: I'm willing to debate anyone on this that it's definitely
Speaker 1: a mix between you know, Israel, CIA, and I think
Speaker 1: there was some Saudi Arabia connections obviously, but Israel seems
Speaker 1: like that they were the person mastermind in that. And
Speaker 1: we're not gonna go with this podcast because it would
Speaker 1: take like an hour. There's so many connections, but I'm
Speaker 1: willing to debate someone on it because it goes deep.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear Israel was involved in it,
Speaker 1: and obviously the CIA had helped covering it up. And
Speaker 1: once you see that, it's like WHOA, our own government
Speaker 1: was involved in this, and they use that for the
Speaker 1: Iraq War, the Afghanistan war that didn't help America at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get cheaper oil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. I mean, if you if you look
Speaker 2: at that, I mean, if you you go down that
Speaker 2: rabbit hole, I think people are smart people. They start
Speaker 2: to like you. You almost become an expert in that area.
Speaker 2: You're ready to debate anybody on it. But most people
Speaker 2: they just swallow a hook light and sinker.
Speaker 1: What you know?
Speaker 2: They've been told from the media and you know all
Speaker 2: Muslims are terrorists? Muslims?
Speaker 1: Did you know?
Speaker 2: Because I'll ask people, average, average people. I'll be like, so,
Speaker 2: what do you know about we talk about this then
Speaker 2: the other when it comes to a slum, I say,
Speaker 2: what do you know about Islam? Nothing except what we
Speaker 2: heard after nine to eleven?
Speaker 1: Wld you hear all the negative vegetarists?
Speaker 2: Is that's it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The propaganda has been been so strong and work so well.
Speaker 1: There's some people waking up now, but I think there's
Speaker 1: currently another wave of this propagand happening. Have you noticed that?
Speaker 2: And it lasts like huge, huge, huge, and just off
Speaker 2: your point what you're saying. If Muslims just hated Christians,
Speaker 2: hated you know, Americans.
Speaker 1: Look at you.
Speaker 2: I mean, look how many people go down to Muslim
Speaker 2: majority countries. Look what happens? How did they get treated?
Speaker 1: They get treated amazing. People always tell me these people
Speaker 1: want to kill you. You can't go to the countries. Like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. I've been to their country.
Speaker 1: I traveled around by myself. Strangers invited me in their
Speaker 1: home to drink tea and sit there and have conversations
Speaker 1: like it's the best. I mean there the girl and
Speaker 1: when she freaked out sometimes like going to the strangers' homes,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I'm like, I could just tell this
Speaker 1: is a good person. Let's just go have tea any
Speaker 1: dinner with them. And it's like, you don't get that
Speaker 1: in America. Yeah, they want to hear my story, like
Speaker 1: the get to learn who I am. I've also sometimes
Speaker 1: I've been to these countries and you know, bizarre situations
Speaker 1: like you know, the King of Morocco, the sheikhs of
Speaker 1: avid Avi. So that's obviously not going to be a
Speaker 1: typical situation. But I've also traveled around these countries by myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to answer your question, you were saying, what do
Speaker 2: I think about the what's what's happening? How a new
Speaker 2: wave and you can see that it's huge. I interviewed
Speaker 2: a I don't know if you had them on your show,
Speaker 2: Doctor Jones.
Speaker 1: Have you had him, doctor Michael, Yeah, Oh yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1: You interviewed him, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: We spoke about this at the time when Charlie Kirk
Speaker 2: had just got assassinated, and then he ended up speaking
Speaker 2: and pushing back because he wanted to keep having people
Speaker 2: like Dave Smith, who I interviewed you.
Speaker 1: I think you yeah, that's interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Dave Smith, also Candice Owens, Tucker Carlson. So I guess
Speaker 2: they were trying to dictate who he can have at
Speaker 2: at his convention. He was getting sick of that. So
Speaker 2: at the end he started to pull, you know, try
Speaker 2: to make his appointment you know heard, and they didn't
Speaker 2: like that. So what happened was he got as Joanes
Speaker 2: doctor Jones talks about, he got two million dollars of funding.
Speaker 2: It stopped from this particular group, the Sheldon Group. And
Speaker 2: then what's interesting is he said they're the key sponsors
Speaker 2: to the Islam hate industry. Is this particular group. So now,
Speaker 2: if you're dishing out, if you have unlimited amount of
Speaker 2: resources to go ahead and push out there like an
Speaker 2: ex I just opened my feet. These are people you
Speaker 2: know that that Okay, I subscribe to follow you and
Speaker 2: this person and aw you know, however many people I
Speaker 2: expect to see them in my timeline.
Speaker 1: Why am I seeing all they feed? They feed me
Speaker 1: all the designs accounts is Zacht. I'm seeing all these accounts.
Speaker 1: There was time with sometimes Okay, maybe I would apply
Speaker 1: to the things and that'll feed them. But then I
Speaker 1: stopped applying to their stop comedy to and I'm still
Speaker 1: being fed them. It just shows a logarithm, like it's
Speaker 1: not fair. So like Elon must took my check mark
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Speaker 2: So this is this is systematically set up like that
Speaker 2: and money is being spent into it. It's a big industry,
Speaker 2: the slam hate industry. So people are becoming victim to that. Now,
Speaker 2: that's why people when you when you talk about Muslims Islam,
Speaker 2: they're trying to make it like Muslims now in America
Speaker 2: are what like one percent? Yeah, they're about to take
Speaker 2: over should he and all this other nonsense.
Speaker 1: Pure nonsense. Yeah, And I don't believe that America should
Speaker 1: flood the country with any immigrants. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to bring, you know, millions of Muslims over here. I
Speaker 1: think people need to be brought over slowly, so they
Speaker 1: so they immigrant. That goes to all religions and all races.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think, you know, I think maybe
Speaker 1: in England they have some problems, but it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: Islam's the problems because they've flooded so many like people
Speaker 1: from like Pakistan and stuff all together, so that they're
Speaker 1: not intermingling, and that's causing problems. It's not the religion
Speaker 1: it's causing the problems.
Speaker 2: No, Islam we say is perfect. Islam, we say it's
Speaker 2: from the creator that heaven in the earth. But Muslim
Speaker 2: is a human being, just like you have Christians or
Speaker 2: Hindus or Jews. You know, they're supposed to be following
Speaker 2: their religion.
Speaker 1: Killing kids is part of a religion though, or maybe
Speaker 1: it is. I don't think it is exactly so.
Speaker 2: But Islam, for example, you might have met some Muslims
Speaker 2: who drink alcohol, who gamble, but they're.
Speaker 1: Not supposed to They're not supposed to be doing it.
Speaker 2: Right, So if a Muslim goes and does something something evil,
Speaker 2: something that you know, breaks the law, commits some kind
Speaker 2: of crime, you don't blame the religion the same thing.
Speaker 2: You don't blame now you know ms, what's that? And
Speaker 2: i'l Salvador t As thirteen. Many of them are practicing Christians.
Speaker 2: They were crosses, So do they represent Christianity or the KKK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's also that the priests from molesting kids and
Speaker 1: is being covered up in the Vatican for years. So
Speaker 1: there's terrible people of every religion in face. So of
Speaker 1: course there's some terrible Muslims. Exactly.
Speaker 2: You've got like hundreds of thousands open pedophile cases right
Speaker 2: now against the Catholic Church. But do we blame Christianity
Speaker 2: for that?
Speaker 1: No, we don't.
Speaker 2: So it's common sense. But it's a shame that common
Speaker 2: sense is not always common practice.
Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people haven't been
Speaker 1: around a lot of Muslims, so there's a spoon fed
Speaker 1: this hate and they start believing it. It baffles me,
Speaker 1: Like how much I get on Twitter people trying to
Speaker 1: argue me, like these people hate you. It's like, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of Muslims. They trust me, they don't
Speaker 1: hate me, they love me, and they've been very I've
Speaker 1: gotten so much love and respect for Muslims after speaking
Speaker 1: up for Palestine, because you know, I did risk a
Speaker 1: lot for it. But I wasn't really expecting anything from it.
Speaker 1: But it's like every one time I had a seminar
Speaker 1: a canceled. I was doing it with Nate Dias and
Speaker 1: that really bummed me out. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: him sucked into my politics. I was more mad about that.
Speaker 1: But another gym rebooked us right away, a Muslim guy,
Speaker 1: and I had like fifteen people come and like bring
Speaker 1: me gifts and stuff, and that meant a lot. It
Speaker 1: just showed like, Okay, these people really appreciate what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: It's worth it. It's worth the sacrifice of costing me
Speaker 1: a little bit of money, you know. And now I'm
Speaker 1: not losing money anymore. But in the beginning, you know,
Speaker 1: I was losing money, losing I was worried I wasn't
Speaker 1: get ostracized and stuff. But I think instead we've actually
Speaker 1: changed the narrative and you know, woken it up. And
Speaker 1: I think an unfortunate reality is I think it's really
Speaker 1: important that some non Muslim started speaking up because you
Speaker 1: could make some difference. But some of these people have
Speaker 1: to hear it from non Muslim too. Because they hear
Speaker 1: the Muslims, they go, well, you only you only care
Speaker 1: about Palaestine because you're Muslim. Absolutely, yeah, So I think
Speaker 1: it was really important guys like me, Dan Lazari and
Speaker 1: some of these guys that weren't Muslim started speaking up
Speaker 1: and made some guys be like, okay, maybe I should look.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean that's very important. I mean you see
Speaker 2: such one of the I mean the biggest I always
Speaker 2: think about never again. You know that slogan never again.
Speaker 2: But you're seeing right now in four K live streaming,
Speaker 2: you're seeing babies being decapitated, and anybody you don't have
Speaker 2: to be Musslim'm just a human. You're just a human being,
Speaker 2: and your humanity's on to be like this is wrong.
Speaker 1: It's you know, we're both fathers. I had to stop
Speaker 1: going on this tellyon channels because it was like it
Speaker 1: was hurting me. It's hurting my psycha. It was like
Speaker 1: not making me mentally, like I couldn't watch this. And
Speaker 1: it's just that's what these people are living through. And
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, you know they hate you know,
Speaker 1: Jews in Palestine. It's like, well, can you really blame them?
Speaker 1: And we know what they're going through, Like people like oh,
Speaker 1: Hamos are terrists, but it's like, Okay, these people on
Speaker 1: the right and America pissed me off because they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we would defend our land. They have people there, you know,
Speaker 1: even in the West Bank where there's not Hamas, they're
Speaker 1: burning their houses, they're taking people, and they're like, men
Speaker 1: are sodomizing men. They're raping the women, shooting them, abusing them.
Speaker 1: It's like, would you resist, Yeah, I would resist. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't sit there like a coward and let people rape me.
Speaker 1: And you've seen.
Speaker 2: I mean, just one thing is very important, and that's another.
Speaker 2: That's another lie that people try to put out there
Speaker 2: that just Muslims automatically hate Jews. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: just nonsense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, you know, he's.
Speaker 2: Just historically if you look historically, you know when Muslims
Speaker 2: ruled and when Muslims were at a point now power
Speaker 2: in Jerusalem, you had Muslim, Jews and Christians there living
Speaker 2: in a relative peace. I mean to this day right
Speaker 2: now that when I was I did something about jd
Speaker 2: Vance when he went out and I commend him. He
Speaker 2: didn't go kiss the wall I think on his last year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not huge, but that was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he went to the holy separature. And if
Speaker 2: you look at there is an interesting story. It's a
Speaker 2: historic story where you have Alma even Katab. He was
Speaker 2: one of the caliphs of Islam. And when the Muslims
Speaker 2: conquered Jerusalem, when they came in, then he had met
Speaker 2: he expelled all the politicians, had all the politicians got
Speaker 2: to good. Yeah, and they didn't shed blood. It wasn't
Speaker 2: you know, blood up to the ankles like the crusader.
Speaker 2: This historical fact. And then what happened is he went
Speaker 2: and the Sopronius, he said, let's go and pray together
Speaker 2: in the church where jd. Vance was the Holy spar
Speaker 2: This is the holiest church for Christians. He said, no,
Speaker 2: He said, if I pray here, then Muslims are going
Speaker 2: to think tomorrow that now because of this, is going
Speaker 2: to give them an excuse to tomorrow say this is
Speaker 2: our master and take it over. So he prayed right
Speaker 2: outside and then they made mush at Omar at that place.
Speaker 2: And then what happened is he also he saw that
Speaker 2: there was no where the Jews go where the Jews
Speaker 2: and they he said, we drove them out right, he said,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: He ended up repopulating Jerusalem with seventy Jewish families in Jerusalem,
Speaker 2: and then to this day Muslims hold the keys to
Speaker 2: the holiest site for Christians, this holy separate Muslims hold.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, just check this up. You know this
Speaker 2: is this is many academics I'm seeing, even non Muslim
Speaker 2: academics who are It's kind of history that's not really
Speaker 2: talked about. So you never heard this, h I.
Speaker 1: Haven't heard this, and I haven't studying a lot of
Speaker 1: this history because I learned, you know, I started studying
Speaker 1: this history when I went to Israel about a chagb.
Speaker 2: Tip it right now, I'm all people bring to check
Speaker 2: it out. Anything, I say, check it out.
Speaker 1: I went to Israel eight or nine years ago, and
Speaker 1: that's when I started looking at the history of the
Speaker 1: land because I'm like, I could just tell when I
Speaker 1: was there, the way they were to them around. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't let me go to the West Bank. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're hiding some stuff. And it was just so obviously
Speaker 1: propaganda they were speaking. And then I started, you know,
Speaker 1: I should have spoke out more about it, but I
Speaker 1: started looking into it and really like, wow, they treat
Speaker 1: these people terrible.
Speaker 2: I heard they try to put you in a honey truck.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, I think that's what it was doing.
Speaker 1: At the time, it wasn't making any sense, but I
Speaker 1: could just I'm good at reading energy, and I could
Speaker 1: tell the something was off with the girl that like
Speaker 1: she was a fan. She was very sweet, very cute.
Speaker 1: He said. She was eighteen, look a little young. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure they had her, you know, made
Speaker 1: up looking older, because I could just see she was
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, yeah, she's a big fan, wants sleep
Speaker 1: with you. But I could just read the energy. Something
Speaker 1: was off.
Speaker 2: There would have been a whole different story.
Speaker 1: Now I'd be tweeting Israel is our greatest alloy.
Speaker 2: And taking that what is it? Seven thousand a post? Yeah,
Speaker 2: how does that work?
Speaker 1: Seven shows that far? There's the far, the ISSU, there's
Speaker 1: they shows. The paperwork came out that Israel's paying influencers.
Speaker 1: Obviously not all, but a lot of influencers. Seven thousand
Speaker 1: dollars per social media post. That's a lot of money,
Speaker 1: you know, he posts ten a week, that's like seven
Speaker 1: hundred thous that's the kind of seventy thousand. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of money these people have. Israel's we're up against
Speaker 1: the biggest media machine in like world history, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and not to sound atisimitic, but they do
Speaker 1: own most of the media.
Speaker 2: Have you have you interviewed I've had on my program.
Speaker 2: I've had a good friend of mine. He's from Israel.
Speaker 2: He's Miko Pillett. Don't if you heard of him, he'd yeah,
Speaker 2: he'd be a great person.
Speaker 1: Taped after.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's actually wrote a book called a General Son.
Speaker 2: So he's Jewish. His great grandfather was one of the
Speaker 2: original signers of a declaration of independence for Israel. But
Speaker 2: then at one point he was like, what are we
Speaker 2: doing here? You know, what is going on, you know,
Speaker 2: oppressing these people. And he's really started to be a
Speaker 2: voice from the inside who's speaking out against the injustices.
Speaker 2: And you have I think you what's the rabbi? Uh
Speaker 2: wiss have you No? I don't know, Oh whereby wiss?
Speaker 1: You have many rabbis these numbers after thinks, because yeah,
Speaker 1: interview all types of people.
Speaker 2: So I'm saying this because you know, I have Jewish friends.
Speaker 2: I have you know Israeli people who are also you know,
Speaker 2: we need more to speak out against you know, even if.
Speaker 1: It was been trying to tell Jews that is important
Speaker 1: that they speak out to show because I do have friends.
Speaker 1: Now they're starting to hate all Jews like me. I
Speaker 1: have some really good Jewish friends still, and we don't
Speaker 1: want that. But we also need these big Jewish voices
Speaker 1: to come out and be like, hey, this is not
Speaker 1: who we are, because unfortunately too many of them are
Speaker 1: supporting it.
Speaker 2: That's what blows my mind. I don't have a problem
Speaker 2: at any point condemning if you are killing non combats,
Speaker 2: I don't have Muslims, don't have not have a problem
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: Right like all them Vino can Isis and all.
Speaker 2: This ices were killing actually more Muslims at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, right and ices. If you look what
Speaker 2: his fans for, that's a whole other rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: Israel intelligence, what is it? It's Israel?
Speaker 2: So who created that? That's a whole another story.
Speaker 1: Definitely, I don't know, I understand. I can't speak on it,
Speaker 1: but I've gone down the rabbit hole a little bit
Speaker 1: and it definitely there's some connections with Isis in Israel
Speaker 1: like they're treating they're treating him in the hospital. America
Speaker 1: was given the weapons, but you know, we're tied in Israel.
Speaker 1: So there's definitely there are supporting Isis in some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so back to what I was saying, that Muslims
Speaker 2: don't hate Jews because of the Jewish people. Muslims like anyone,
Speaker 2: even the people in Palestine are like, look, if it's
Speaker 2: my own brother coming to steal my home, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: fight my own brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Min is common sense, right, and there's a great, there's
Speaker 2: a great people can look this up. There's a David Warrenstein,
Speaker 2: many Jewish academic academics, this one in particular, David warrensty
Speaker 2: look him up. He wrote in the in the Jewish
Speaker 2: Chronicles that Islam saved the jury the Jewish people. So,
Speaker 2: you know, when Jews were fleeing persecution, as I mean
Speaker 2: it was Christian persecution, they fled to Muslim lands where
Speaker 2: Muslims in Albania and Bosnia where my family's from, in
Speaker 2: Turkey and in Muslim majority comfort and actually in Bosnia
Speaker 2: they were at that point they were putting the Jews
Speaker 2: in Nicab. You know, in Nikab is you have his
Speaker 2: job and Nikab is where you know, you can't see
Speaker 2: the Yeah, they were hiding them from the Nazis. Okay,
Speaker 2: they were hiding them from the from the Nazis. So
Speaker 2: Muslims have always had good relationships in the past, but
Speaker 2: now with what's what's happening with Zionists and whatnot, and
Speaker 2: I think this is where we're at. You know, we
Speaker 2: have a great injustice is happening, and it's a shame
Speaker 2: that people are trying to like flip it and project
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: We're the bad guys. We're anti Semis, you're not anti
Speaker 1: American kids being killed. No, well you might know this,
Speaker 1: but after Israel was formed, a lot of these Jews
Speaker 1: in these Islamic countries didn't want to move to Israel
Speaker 1: because they were living fine. Wassade came in and did
Speaker 1: bombing campaigns. I know for surely did in Iraq, probably
Speaker 1: other places too, but they were bombing the Jewish communities,
Speaker 1: blaming it on the Muslims there to make the Jewish
Speaker 1: fleet Israel.
Speaker 2: Yeah that happened. What with the I think you interviewed
Speaker 2: the guy from the Liberty Oh yeah, us false flack.
Speaker 1: They attacked American ship killing thirty four American servicemen. These
Speaker 1: people have never been honored by our government. They were
Speaker 1: given a gag order who's basically told he might be
Speaker 1: court martialed and even like hung if he spoke about it.
Speaker 1: They wanted him to die. They left him out at sea,
Speaker 1: I think like twenty four hours, were hoping the boat
Speaker 1: would say.
Speaker 2: They tried to blame the Muslims, the Egyptians, right, the
Speaker 2: Muslim Egyptian doesn't charge.
Speaker 1: Well, they said it was accident, it was during the
Speaker 1: Egyptian War, but they never they I mean, it was
Speaker 1: very obvious the Egyptians didn't do it. They're like, oops,
Speaker 1: we accidentally bombed your ship. But there was a giant
Speaker 1: American flag up there. There's a rate you can hear
Speaker 1: a radio thing when the guys like it's the American ship,
Speaker 1: like matters like order, I demand you shoot or whatever.
Speaker 1: The attack went on for an hour, so they knew
Speaker 1: it was America are attacking.
Speaker 2: It's if these people and they mastered the art of
Speaker 2: lying and deception and they try to push it on.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you've heard this term takia. Have you
Speaker 2: heard this word to you haven't? Okay, this is what
Speaker 2: another talking point by you know, the the hate industry
Speaker 2: that Muslims they practice what's called takia, right, and this
Speaker 2: is deception lying to people about their religion.
Speaker 1: And this is not a part of Islam.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is not from what we say the Qur'an
Speaker 2: and we have the Hadith. This is not a part
Speaker 2: of it. You know, you have a small sect of
Speaker 2: Shiites that I think this derives from. But you know,
Speaker 2: anybody who can chat GBT this also and look up.
Speaker 2: You know what if you are if that's a characteristic
Speaker 2: of a Muslim to lie, I mean, this is one
Speaker 2: of the worst things that you can be doing. There's
Speaker 2: a statement by Propha Muammed, Peace and buzzed to be
Speaker 2: upon him. He said, if a person was scared in
Speaker 2: the battle, you know, was he is he still to
Speaker 2: go about?
Speaker 1: Is he still believer?
Speaker 2: He says, yeah, If he doesn't, he's stole.
Speaker 1: Of course you're gonna be scared, really good about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're still going to go to battle. So I used
Speaker 1: to get fear when fighting exactly.
Speaker 2: So people are asking him a bunch of things, if
Speaker 2: you do this, that andy app But he said, if
Speaker 2: a person is a liar, you know, he said no,
Speaker 2: you know, he said, the one who deceives us is
Speaker 2: not of us. Another statement, he says truthfulsness and leads
Speaker 2: to righteousness, and righteousness leads to paradise, but lying leads
Speaker 2: to wickedness, and wickedness will leave you to the hell
Speaker 2: fire somebody. And this is such nonsense. And you know,
Speaker 2: I see this stuff popping up on my feed and
Speaker 2: it's like you're saying something. That's all they're practicing takia
Speaker 2: that means deception. They're lying. This is such a you know, nonsense,
Speaker 2: it's it's really But then they're actually projecting the things
Speaker 2: that they're doing with the same you know, babies and
Speaker 2: ovens and this that and the other things that Almoslim
Speaker 2: would ever dream of doing.
Speaker 1: But these already had it babies. But it sounds so
Speaker 1: sick and horrific, and they repeated it so many times
Speaker 1: that people are like, oh my god, these people are evil.
Speaker 1: But that never happened. But even like President Biden said it,
Speaker 1: they just repeat it so many times and people still
Speaker 1: believe it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, the saying that it was who was in a
Speaker 2: Nazi who said if you know that during Hitler's time,
Speaker 2: one of the probably if you repeat a lie a
Speaker 2: thousand times, then it will become the truth.
Speaker 1: It's true, the truth. And that's what they did with
Speaker 1: before we had the mass rapes that never happened, but
Speaker 1: they do rape like the majority of palace in prisoners.
Speaker 2: But this guy is still coming on the neelt Boys
Speaker 2: and he's going through all of the He was on
Speaker 2: the PbD not too long ago, and he's he's still repeating,
Speaker 2: you know, the same thing. These these things have been
Speaker 2: debunked long time ago. I had a Jewish guy, actually,
Speaker 2: he's from the Gray Zone. I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: had him on the man amazing h you heard of
Speaker 2: the Gray Zone? What's his name?
Speaker 1: Amazing journalist?
Speaker 2: What's his name? Max Blumenthal?
Speaker 1: I would I would love him, Max Blum. His dms
Speaker 1: aren't open on Twitter, so I will have I want
Speaker 1: to have him on by you like to connect. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about a few these guys.
Speaker 2: Max Blumenthal, he's great, he's did you He's yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: he's Jewish. He did you know independent journalism they investigated
Speaker 2: all this when it first happened. He totally you know,
Speaker 2: debunked all of this. You know, even Dave Smith, same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Dave Smith's great too. He's like, you know, it's weird,
Speaker 2: Like he's the only person I know that's been attacked
Speaker 2: for coming on my show. He gets attacked for it
Speaker 2: all the time. I think they almost go after the
Speaker 2: Jews harder than the non Jews because he gets attacked.
Speaker 2: He like said, it's only they are like, oh, you
Speaker 2: do interviews with Jake Shields, and shit, you're his friend,
Speaker 2: he's a Nazi because obviously they try to like label
Speaker 2: you these terms and stuff, but no one else gets
Speaker 2: tacked comes to my show, and like that's interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's and I think they need to be commended.
Speaker 2: You know, people like that who are going against the grain.
Speaker 2: They're not compromised. They're out there, you know, speaking just
Speaker 2: for truth, just speak the truth.
Speaker 1: If Jews don't speak up, people are legitimately gonna become
Speaker 1: anti Semitic. It's like when they see this evil happening,
Speaker 1: and if they don't see Jews speaking up, it's like
Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, Arabs, the Palestinians are actually Semitic. I
Speaker 2: mean this is very true. Arabs are Semitic. I mean,
Speaker 2: we cannot be anti Semitic. I mean because Jesus was Semitic,
Speaker 2: Moses was Semitic, all the prophets that we love and
Speaker 2: revere were Semitics. So to be anti Semitic would be
Speaker 2: to be anti Islam. So this is also more just
Speaker 2: nonsense that's perpetuated. And most of these people who came over,
Speaker 2: they're Europeans. They changed their names, right.
Speaker 1: I don't like to take credit for him, but that
Speaker 1: but itt one hundred century. What you're saying from like
Speaker 1: Poland in Ukraine, most of them, most of the people
Speaker 1: that came in with the first terrorist attack, and because
Speaker 1: they went to Zionism, it was all I think the
Speaker 1: majority were Polish in Ukrainian. They came in there. They
Speaker 1: invented modern terrorism. The first bombings. You're probably aware of this.
Speaker 1: They bombed the King David Hotel, killing ninety one people,
Speaker 1: including Palestinians and English. They tortured and hung like English soldiers.
Speaker 1: They assassinated English diplomats like they were brutal people. They
Speaker 1: tried to kill President Truman, unbelievable. Don't even know this.
Speaker 1: They graduate American president and it's like they were just
Speaker 1: brutal people.
Speaker 2: So I see this and I see that again that
Speaker 2: every accusation is a confession. So they accused Muslims of
Speaker 2: certain acts and then they pumped all of that out
Speaker 2: with the propaganda. And it's actually things when you look
Speaker 2: at it, if you're because most people are not critical thinkers.
Speaker 2: Most people are sheep and they just black. You know,
Speaker 2: they're constantly, you know, just being fed all of these
Speaker 2: lies and misinformation. And now you have to humanize Muslims.
Speaker 2: Why so now you can support all of the endless wars.
Speaker 1: And I you know, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are sick of the sick and entire of these wars,
Speaker 1: which is what Trump ran on. But then he's kind
Speaker 1: of been I don't know your thoughts, but to me,
Speaker 1: he's been a huge disappointment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you see you were, I mean you
Speaker 2: you think you know America first, right, but when you
Speaker 2: when you look at how much money now is being spent,
Speaker 2: I think, you know, what is it? Almost four billion
Speaker 2: dollars a year? You got people, I mean you were,
Speaker 2: are you from You're from California?
Speaker 1: Yeah' in Vegas now, but how.
Speaker 2: Many people are sleeping on the streets?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I left because it's just disgusting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, the schools are falling apart. I
Speaker 1: live in Vegas. They can't extend your kids to the
Speaker 1: public schools.
Speaker 2: So how about we take some of that money and invest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, into our own country. And it's really a lot
Speaker 1: more than four billion a year because I also were
Speaker 1: always giving them like these that's like the steady we
Speaker 1: have said every year, but there's tons of We're always
Speaker 1: giving them weapons. We also paid Jordan in Egypt to
Speaker 1: not go to war with them. Like when Trump goes,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting off all foreign a that didn't apply to Israel,
Speaker 1: Jordan and Egypt.
Speaker 2: You know, Morocco was the first country that actually that
Speaker 2: actually supported, acknowledged and was there when America claimed it's independence.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a Muslim majority country. You know Muslims.
Speaker 2: If you would just go and visit, like you did,
Speaker 2: go and visit. What's the guy who is in he's
Speaker 2: also Christian, he's a UFC fighter. He's like, I love
Speaker 2: them Muslims, and he's uh, he's.
Speaker 1: Uh he fought Mitchel Bryce Michael Mitchell. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love Bryce. He's a friend of mine.
Speaker 2: Okay, cool, God give him my helloes. Yeah, he went
Speaker 2: down there and now he's I love them Muslims, and
Speaker 2: so obviously you know we could have a discussion about Islam.
Speaker 2: Bruce any time, I'm inviting him on the show.
Speaker 1: I love to talk with him. But yeah, Bryce, ever
Speaker 1: in town, I'll have him come on.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. See someone like like Bryce when
Speaker 2: he when he goes and travels, most people, most of
Speaker 2: these people have not left their little village in America,
Speaker 2: their little town, right, So you got to get out there.
Speaker 1: You got to see the world for yourself and have
Speaker 1: gone someplace like, Oh, these people are pricks. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying all friends are French. I got to friends like, oh,
Speaker 1: they don't treat me very good. It doesn't mean they're
Speaker 1: bad people. Maybe they don't like tourists that much. Maybe
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Speaker 1: I was waiting for you.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for you Dan Hassan in Bosnia and oh.
Speaker 1: You were there with them. Yeah, we should have came out, man,
Speaker 1: we almost. I had everything prepared for you. Guys. Guys
Speaker 1: would have came out. We were just kind of hopping
Speaker 1: around place to place.
Speaker 2: But I had everything prepared. And that is the Bosnia
Speaker 2: is the Jerusalem of Europe. I didn't realized you were
Speaker 2: there with them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was there. I was the one planning everything,
Speaker 1: you know, for me. Compared we were kind of on
Speaker 1: the fence. I'm sure I could have talked I could
Speaker 1: have talked Dan into it. So we went out to
Speaker 1: France too. They said, what was it. It's called like
Speaker 1: deep sea. It's like basically when you go underwater, mo
Speaker 1: out a tank. So I'm like, oh, that sounds cool.
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to be like swimming around
Speaker 1: looking for fish. They just go straight down in the dark.
Speaker 1: This guy has the world record Dan's friend. It is
Speaker 1: the scariest fort ever.
Speaker 2: Wow. But these I mentioned Bosnia because you come to
Speaker 2: Bosnia and you see like these are white Muslims. And
Speaker 2: the actually the history is that we were Unitarian Christians.
Speaker 2: Unitarian Christians, but we didn't believe the Muslims.
Speaker 1: Didn't believe that.
Speaker 2: We loved Jesus, but we didn't believe that he was
Speaker 2: literally God, the Creator.
Speaker 1: We believe that he.
Speaker 2: Called people to worship God. So when Islam came sub
Speaker 2: mischie wed, then the Bosnians we accepted.
Speaker 1: It made sense.
Speaker 2: And now you have Muslims there in Europe and you
Speaker 2: guys come and see you like these. We thought that
Speaker 2: Muslims are just Arabs.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, when you go back, let me know,
Speaker 1: I want to go. Yeah. So you guys believe that
Speaker 1: you got maybe we can make it. We can make it.
Speaker 2: We're organizing, we say in Charlotte, God willing Hoist was
Speaker 2: just there with us.
Speaker 1: He was out there a lot. Huh, he was not.
Speaker 2: It was his first time in Bosnia, But Hoys is
Speaker 2: supposed to be going to actually Mecca with us next year.
Speaker 2: He's going to stop in Bosnia and then go to
Speaker 2: So I'll keep you.
Speaker 1: Posted, maybe off camera. I want to tell you a
Speaker 1: Hoyt story. He kind of got screwed over. You might
Speaker 1: already know him, and he got screwed over bad pye
Speaker 1: of people and some of the got dragged into this conflicts.
Speaker 1: Is such a good dude. Yeah, he's amazing. Yes, Hoys
Speaker 1: based your legend. Interviewing him to me was so like
Speaker 1: surreal because I as a kid, you grow up, these
Speaker 1: guys are You're a legend. And then hit him Uphen
Speaker 1: become my podcast.
Speaker 3: Sure he went way out of his way because he
Speaker 3: was flying in town for only like ten hours, but
Speaker 3: I picked him up the airs, came on, did my
Speaker 3: podcast and like, oh, you're just so cool boys that
Speaker 3: you're actually so.
Speaker 1: Cool, very cool.
Speaker 2: He Yeah, he was here a few weeks ago with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he comes out here quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I think with Derek Winneberg Jewish guy, that's you know,
Speaker 1: I introduced those together people that hate you is it's
Speaker 1: like a couple of my really good friends are Jewish
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't want Israel control in our country.
Speaker 1: That's not the same thing as hating Jewish people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So back to Jesus you mentioned real quick. So you
Speaker 1: guys don't believe he's a son or God, but do
Speaker 1: you believe he was like a prophet sent from God.
Speaker 2: Look, let me ask you something. When and I asked,
Speaker 2: you know, look, respect, I never want to disrespect purposely,
Speaker 2: purposely anybody's religion. Right, So when I say look, when
Speaker 2: you say just think, Like when you say son of God,
Speaker 2: do you do you mean like, you know, we know
Speaker 2: that cats have kittens, doll have puppy calves, kyles have caps.
Speaker 2: What do you mean son of God, that God the
Speaker 2: Almighty had a baby God? What do you actually mean?
Speaker 2: Just think? And then in the English language, like when
Speaker 2: you say, look, we understand there's a literal son of God,
Speaker 2: there's an adopted you can have an adopted son, or
Speaker 2: it's metaphorical. Okay, So most people, when you break it
Speaker 2: down like that, they'll be like, no, metaphorically, we're all
Speaker 2: the children of you know, got metaphorically. But to say
Speaker 2: that the Almighty, creator the heavens and the earth, that
Speaker 2: he literally had a son like me and you you
Speaker 2: have children, right, that's your son. He's going to go
Speaker 2: up to have the attributes of the Father. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: where we say, hold on. That's the dividing of the
Speaker 2: way we believe what the Bible says about him. That
Speaker 2: he was the messiah, okay, that he did miracles by
Speaker 2: the permission of God, that he was a prophet, a messenger.
Speaker 1: That's what the Bible says.
Speaker 2: Also, right, then you have ambiguous verses they'll talk about,
Speaker 2: you know, people try to use and extract that he's God.
Speaker 2: But then you have clear verses, very clear that he
Speaker 2: said that he's He says, look, I can of myself
Speaker 2: do nothing as I hear. I judge, and my judgment
Speaker 2: is just. I seek not my will but the will
Speaker 2: of the Father. In John seventeen three, he clearly says,
Speaker 2: this is life eternal, that they may know you the
Speaker 2: only true God and Jesus who you sent. So the
Speaker 2: sense and the sender is not the same. You kin'd
Speaker 2: of have one true God and another God. Then you
Speaker 2: got to So it's confusing, but at the point we
Speaker 2: can agree to disagree. But you could be in your family,
Speaker 2: you have a democrat, you have somebody.
Speaker 1: Who's who's love each other.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the point.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, my mom's like liberal, I still, you know,
Speaker 1: love her. There's been times of disagree for Trump, but
Speaker 1: we still completely loved each other. And I couldn't understand
Speaker 1: having a falling out with a parent or a child
Speaker 1: or politics. That's insane to me that people go through
Speaker 1: this in their family.
Speaker 2: So we can debate this, we can talk about it
Speaker 2: respectfully at the end of the day, agree to disagree
Speaker 2: and move on. We got so much more in common,
Speaker 2: that's the point. We don't want a thousand and one
Speaker 2: genders right, we don't want men going into women's bathrooms right.
Speaker 1: Homosexuality shouldn't be it would be kept in the closet.
Speaker 2: So there's so many things Christians and Muslims agree agree upon,
Speaker 2: but they want us divide it.
Speaker 1: They won't agree with you so much on this because
Speaker 1: I'm not part of either religion, but I really like
Speaker 1: both religions and I wish there wasn't the fighting between him.
Speaker 1: I remember I treated it one day like it seems
Speaker 1: to me like you guys worship the same God, Like
Speaker 1: is this correct? And I had like a lot of
Speaker 1: the mother I'm saying, Yes, a lot of Christians getting
Speaker 1: mad at me. I'm like, to me, it just seems
Speaker 1: like that's the same God. There's so many it seems
Speaker 1: like you guys the religion is like a cousin. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean we look we have so like just that
Speaker 2: point when we say we love Jesus, we love him.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you say one disrespectful thing about Jesus,
Speaker 2: that can take you outside of Islam. It's an article
Speaker 2: of fake to believe in all the prophets that were
Speaker 2: sent and Jesus being one of them. So it's not
Speaker 2: us trying. We believe christ Is will return and be
Speaker 2: the king.
Speaker 1: People Christ for a return to that he would be in.
Speaker 2: The second Coming. We believe in that. We believe in
Speaker 2: his immaculate conception, that he was born without any male intervention,
Speaker 2: that his mother gave birth to him. There's a whole
Speaker 2: entire chap there in the Qur'an named after his blessed mother,
Speaker 2: called Sudha Mediam. I mean, just find one thing there,
Speaker 2: open the Koran for yourself. I give it for free.
Speaker 1: Read both of these books I give.
Speaker 2: I give it for free, you know on my website
Speaker 2: it's free it's a gift. Even go to the Dean
Speaker 2: Show dot com and get it for free and just
Speaker 2: read for yourself.
Speaker 1: Man, if you're saying all the money from your show,
Speaker 1: you just read reinvesting, reinvest instead of keeping. That's exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have salary that you know you give
Speaker 2: for free. Yeah, this is yeah, we get we give this,
Speaker 2: it's free. The English is just a translation, but the
Speaker 2: Arabic is how it's been preserved. That's one of the
Speaker 2: miracles of the Koran that you have. Millions have memorized
Speaker 2: this entire book. If you were to take all the
Speaker 2: different religious scriptures and you you just burn them all,
Speaker 2: you just lock them up, you cannot bring them back
Speaker 2: because how But that's one of the miracles of the
Speaker 2: Koran that has been preserved that you have Hofas. These
Speaker 2: are people memorizers that you can start from the beginning
Speaker 2: to the end and it will be be completed in
Speaker 2: a in a day.
Speaker 1: You know. That's yeah. I think it's so important to
Speaker 1: bring these two religions closer to Absolutely. I didn't know
Speaker 1: they believed that Jesus was maxic exception like so similar
Speaker 1: I did, see, I told you right before he started
Speaker 1: a few years ago, I saw someone posting about Jesus
Speaker 1: being like a black tranny and like, oh, that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: I was insulted in not Christian. I look at the comments.
Speaker 1: Muslims are more furious than Christians. There are so many
Speaker 1: angry Muslims about this. Yeah, will you guys allow this?
Speaker 1: Is this disgraceful? How can you disrespect Jesus this way?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh wow, I didn't even know
Speaker 1: like Muslims like cared about Jesus.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to disrespect another religion, but this
Speaker 2: other religion. But look, and I'm not doing this, you know,
Speaker 2: just out of spite. But what I'm saying, I'm just having
Speaker 2: people just to think, because you if this is your bestie,
Speaker 2: it's your greatest ally, but hold on this. You have
Speaker 2: another religion. Another set of people will say, look, he's
Speaker 2: burning into hell fire right in feces and his mother
Speaker 2: was a whore. I mean, this is unacceptable. Like now
Speaker 2: you want to you want to go ahead and say
Speaker 2: Muslims are the enemy. And when we pray, when we
Speaker 2: when we say we love him, we revere him, and
Speaker 2: all of these qualities of him and his status as
Speaker 2: the Messia we accept. But over here somebody's imagine if
Speaker 2: someone's calling your mother a whore.
Speaker 1: A bunch of in the face. No, to me, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I typically I don't attack Judaism. I'm more attack Israel.
Speaker 1: But there are something like that's crazy. They think Jesus
Speaker 1: is burning in hell and his mother's a whoror and
Speaker 1: Christians are like Judo Christian alliance.
Speaker 2: This is also something that was concocted over one hundred
Speaker 2: about one hundred years ago, within within a hundred years,
Speaker 2: this whole Judaeo Christian you can actually say Christian Islamo
Speaker 2: because we have more more actually in common with Christians.
Speaker 2: And this whole term it's it's made up, it's concocted.
Speaker 2: There's no such thing as Judeo Christian. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you know about the about the schoolfield Bible and
Speaker 2: dispensationalism added the Noes.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people that did. There was
Speaker 1: a bunch of Jews that converted to Christianity, and they're
Speaker 1: some of the main people that pushed Judeo christ Christianity. Doubt,
Speaker 1: I doubt they really were Christians, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Cybrus Scholfield who was a con man.
Speaker 2: He was taking the teachings of John Nelson Darty.
Speaker 1: You know about this.
Speaker 2: And then what happens is they ended up funding him.
Speaker 2: He went down and you got Jewish. Yeah, some say,
Speaker 2: some say that even the Rothchild's funding him. And then
Speaker 2: what happens. He gets the from Okford's Press. They print
Speaker 2: so they have whoever blesses the is blessed, whoever Christy
Speaker 2: has cursed certain verses from the Bible. He makes the
Speaker 2: Schoolfield Bible. And then you have the footnotes in there,
Speaker 2: and those footnotes are supporting this state right now and
Speaker 2: making it seem to Christians who they they end up
Speaker 2: being sinful, they feel if they don't support this state.
Speaker 2: And then they push these these the Schoofield Bible for free,
Speaker 2: a million copies into the churches, the universities, all of
Speaker 2: it for free. And this is what you Then they
Speaker 2: had the Great Late Planet Earth and other films and
Speaker 2: that sixty million I think they produced from this. I
Speaker 2: think it was a film or whatnot. But the propaganda
Speaker 2: just kept pushing out and so people Christians felt for this.
Speaker 2: But many people like Tucker Carlson others Canada, many Christians
Speaker 2: are waking up to this and seeing that this is
Speaker 2: just this was Zionus propaganda that was pushed out there
Speaker 2: to make Christians feel like, if we're not being Christian,
Speaker 2: if we don't support what's happening against actually Christian Palestinians,
Speaker 2: we're also being affected there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're killing Christian Palatinians, are bombing their churches.
Speaker 2: The holiest churches out there also being bombed, and now
Speaker 2: the oldest church out there. Yeah, and then they look
Speaker 2: at and they've been duped. They think that okay, which
Speaker 2: for eighteen hundred years there was nothing in the Christian
Speaker 2: teachings about this is something that this is something new
Speaker 2: by Cyrus Skolfield, who was a con man. Does somebody who.
Speaker 1: And he has rast records. People will look this up.
Speaker 1: You really know your stuff, remember they I mean I
Speaker 1: started talking about this. I had to learn when they're
Speaker 1: debating people and talking about it. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: name of the guys funding them, but it was like
Speaker 1: a Jewish lawyer that was funding them. He'd been in
Speaker 1: jail out of a complete con man. Can't remember the
Speaker 1: exact rap sheet, but the guys it's a complete con Yes, Wow,
Speaker 1: you've done Really I was obviously hired to do do
Speaker 1: the book that was. I think the Christians Zis are
Speaker 1: kind of the last stronghold supporting Israel. Once we crack them,
Speaker 1: they're done. Unfortunately all of our politicians too, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's just the Republican Party, which you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not part of the party, but I leaned that way before.
Speaker 1: But they are just team is. All they do is
Speaker 1: they're there to help Israel, not America. Seeing that, I
Speaker 1: think a lot of Americans are seeing her right now.
Speaker 1: They're just disgusted seeing our politicians serve Israel before America.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure have you been noticing that trend? Yeah?
Speaker 2: When you when you look at someone like Thomas Macy
Speaker 2: when he's talking to Tucker and he's talking about every
Speaker 2: politicians has an APEC handler, and mean, that's just what
Speaker 2: does that tell you? There? Like, whose interests are we
Speaker 2: putting first?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Not America? And there's that was at Marley Taylor Green.
Speaker 1: She starts speaking as Israel and Trump has disavowed her
Speaker 1: in Massi because they're saying America first. And she was.
Speaker 1: She was the most hardcore Trump supporter her entire time,
Speaker 1: and now he turned on her for not wane to
Speaker 1: support Israel. I was just disgusted by But it sucks
Speaker 1: because I supported this guy. I didn't have apart his
Speaker 1: last election. But it's just people got so mad at
Speaker 1: me when I first started calling Trump at lost so
Speaker 1: many followers. But it's like, I don't care that people
Speaker 1: are seeing it now though you can see the turning
Speaker 1: on and people are going, Okay, this guy is actually
Speaker 1: putting Israel before America. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's a shame, I know.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how he thinks that. I think
Speaker 1: maybe a normal, normal citizens might have to step up
Speaker 1: and run for office.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I just interviewed on my last program,
Speaker 2: Bruce Bruce Benton, I think it was his name. He
Speaker 2: was also running for He was kind of in the
Speaker 2: same line with Ron Paul Thomas Macy. He's a Republican
Speaker 2: and he was somebody also who visited he they could
Speaker 2: They called him the Crypto King in Dubai and he's
Speaker 2: a crypto expert and he was talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: much of this. He's very aware of what's happening with this,
Speaker 2: the propaganda that is being pushed to demonize Muslims and whatnot,
Speaker 2: and what's happening, and it's just more people getting educated,
Speaker 2: waking up, supporting people like may See and O there's
Speaker 2: like that who are putting America first at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, and people being exposed to your program,
Speaker 2: and it just really common sense.
Speaker 1: Man, there's a massive awaken happening. But now we need
Speaker 1: to take this opportunity and change things. I talked to
Speaker 1: a campaign mandar and he says, basically, you need at
Speaker 1: least like three million dollars to in a primary. Regular
Speaker 1: person doesn't have three million dollars, So what do you do?
Speaker 1: You make a deal with the devil. But I think
Speaker 1: maybe we could change that, Maybe we could do maybe
Speaker 1: we need to like do crowdfunding and like how and
Speaker 1: back each other up, or maybe some billionaires that actually
Speaker 1: care about America will step up start funding some of
Speaker 1: these campaigns. He'd be awesome if, like you know, LATINX election,
Speaker 1: if you can get fifty people around the country to
Speaker 1: run on a true America first campaign.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's happening slowly. You can see it. There's
Speaker 2: a big shift now. You can see how how many
Speaker 2: people now are the feel of the American public people,
Speaker 2: what's happened in Palestine, where where people who have got
Speaker 2: out the box and have research and I'm just are
Speaker 2: seeing they're seeing through the lies. I think people Americans
Speaker 2: are waking up and they're seeing where's our money going?
Speaker 2: They're questioning. I mean, I've interviewed there's another Christian lady
Speaker 2: or Alison Weir, she's from If Americans only knew it's
Speaker 2: non for profit, people like her and others who are
Speaker 2: these are Christians, Jewish and others who are who are
Speaker 2: just sick of it. There's they're sick of the lies,
Speaker 2: the deception, and and and I think this is their
Speaker 2: last attempt now, I mean, this is like they're they're desperate,
Speaker 2: and this is why you know, all all of this,
Speaker 2: You saw what what what what's his name?
Speaker 1: Who went out?
Speaker 2: He was actually about to get if you look at
Speaker 2: the BB files, you know, if you've watched that documentary.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard you've heard about it, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: hear he might be going to jail for coruption, but
Speaker 1: he keeps keeping the war going. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so people are seeing that, like this guy was
Speaker 2: about to go to jail now to keep this and
Speaker 2: to keep this war going, you know, to go ahead,
Speaker 2: and this is this was an excuse for him to
Speaker 2: push off and to go into this. But I just
Speaker 2: I think that more people are just getting fed up
Speaker 2: against sick of this. And I just see, I see
Speaker 2: something I've never seen before. Are you seeing the shift
Speaker 2: massive mass?
Speaker 1: Because you know, someone uses my you know, real name
Speaker 1: and out in public, people are constantly coming up to
Speaker 1: me now, just like because some people don't people to
Speaker 1: talk to you just want to talk about it. So
Speaker 1: many people are dmm me saying hey, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I was mad at you at first speaking
Speaker 1: against Israel. Like just the change is crazy in the
Speaker 1: last six months. I don't think they're going to put
Speaker 1: it back in. I think they might try mass censorship.
Speaker 1: They can kill some people if they can't kill us all.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like it's like, do you see when
Speaker 1: h gave Trump a golden pager as a present. That's
Speaker 1: that's a death threat, I think, But like the media
Speaker 1: was silent on that. It's like if the pagers is
Speaker 1: after the page attack and he goes handsome as golden
Speaker 1: pager to me, I would take that as a death threat.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So it's just like these people, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know they're definitely connect potential connections between John Kay's assassination.
Speaker 1: They did attack the USS Liberty killing uh for sure,
Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent of firm killing thirty four Americans.
Speaker 1: They did the lot of Lavan affair where they where
Speaker 1: they bombed American interests in Egypt. There's fingerprints are all
Speaker 1: over nine to eleven. They assassinate people all around the world.
Speaker 1: This is one hundred percent proven. They have massive assassination
Speaker 1: programs and all kinds of countries. So it's a very
Speaker 1: scary enemy we're against. But we have to. We can't
Speaker 1: be bullied off fear of death. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: we're all going to die.
Speaker 2: Well where that's That's a very important point. Where do
Speaker 2: you see I'm seeing more when I when I see
Speaker 2: former congressmen, senator, people like the golden boy of Fox News,
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson and.
Speaker 1: Who has been amazing, Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 2: And there it's like you have those At one point
Speaker 2: it was like three thousand architects and engineers.
Speaker 1: And I had one of those guys. I had had it.
Speaker 1: I had the guy who started that on what's his name,
Speaker 1: the main guy? Yeah, what's having a brain?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you're talking. I know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll come to me a second. But no, he
Speaker 1: was just strictly come from an architects standpoint, right, Richard
Speaker 1: deer Gage. Yeah, yeah, And he was strictly in architects
Speaker 1: the last couple of years I had. When I booked him,
Speaker 1: I had no idea what he thought. He full on
Speaker 1: things as Israel, and he knew so much about it.
Speaker 1: Now he's somebody who's.
Speaker 2: Had skeptical people come in, people who are on one side,
Speaker 2: and he'll have a whole auditorium of you know, one
Speaker 2: hundred or more people, and after his presentation, he just
Speaker 2: give the scientific the facts.
Speaker 1: You know. I think it was a.
Speaker 2: University that spent three hundred thousand dollars. They did an
Speaker 2: independent study and they concluded there's no way that the
Speaker 2: building could have came down.
Speaker 1: By fire, just the speed they fell out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all together right.
Speaker 1: And then building seven makes no sense. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've watched a bunch of controlled emulitions, and I watched
Speaker 1: that because when I had this Richard caje On, I
Speaker 1: went and studied it because he was explaining it all
Speaker 1: and a huge show how buildings fall that didn't have
Speaker 1: that totally different.
Speaker 2: So if we go back to that and then when
Speaker 2: that finally when that where's that going? Where do you
Speaker 2: see that going? Like people are demanding they want a
Speaker 2: new investigation, they want a new investigation when it really
Speaker 2: comes to a point when when things.
Speaker 1: Start to get the investigation what it was right from
Speaker 1: the beginning. And people actually have a podcast with the reprogate.
Speaker 1: People that want to know more about nine to eleven
Speaker 1: should check that out. I have a couple that covered
Speaker 1: nine to eleven up. Ryan Dawson just did it with
Speaker 1: like it. It's crazy these connections. You know, it would
Speaker 1: take too long to get into right now because I'm
Speaker 1: doing your podcast after. It's just it's insane. People need
Speaker 1: to look at if you think it's crazy, look and
Speaker 1: then independently check all this stuff, just simple things like
Speaker 1: the dance in Israeli as you can look up. That's
Speaker 1: one a lot of people already know, like Larry Silvernstein,
Speaker 1: who is the guy who he got the lease I
Speaker 1: think maybe six weeks before it was a building worth nothing,
Speaker 1: spent like thirty million on the lease, and he was
Speaker 1: good friends of Benjamin net Yahoo by coincidence, and then
Speaker 1: he got four point five billion in terrorists insurance and
Speaker 1: he happened to miss work that day. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: I stick with number seven.
Speaker 2: How does the building just fall like that? It just falls?
Speaker 1: It just felt it's like.
Speaker 2: What's that David Copperfield like right in front of us.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. So when when all of
Speaker 2: this unfolds, when it comes out and it's not it's
Speaker 2: not something that that is becoming more and more mainstream.
Speaker 2: I saw some some local chat news storage channels, bring on,
Speaker 2: people like Rick Richard Gage are speaking. It's just catching
Speaker 2: more and more momentum.
Speaker 1: There's honestly about fifty points the pointers Geral, that's how
Speaker 1: crazy it is. You know. Here here's another one, zim Shipping,
Speaker 1: which was was a government Israeli shipping company. They canceled
Speaker 1: at least two weeks before moved out. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I m I've seen this like a Dago or some
Speaker 1: company Israeli company. They got text messages telling them something
Speaker 1: dangerous happened. Don't go to work that day. It's just
Speaker 1: there's just so many things. There was major betting against
Speaker 1: deppat options against United Airlines and American Airlines the days
Speaker 1: before those the two airlines that were hijacked, and they
Speaker 1: didn't investigation and they said, oh, no al Qaeda links
Speaker 1: because it's the Jewish investors. So I guess it's not
Speaker 1: like a Kaida links. It's just I could go on
Speaker 1: and on, but it's just there's just so many things
Speaker 1: that point towards Israel. Obviously there's some say would have
Speaker 1: had to help cover it up. Well, even the dancing
Speaker 1: Israelis from Assaud agents that were there pre filming it,
Speaker 1: dancing and celebrating. You know, they admitted they were there
Speaker 1: to document the events. They were arrested. They were gotten
Speaker 1: out of jail by this guy, Michael Chertoff, who was
Speaker 1: a dual citizen with Israel. His mom to helped fun masade.
Speaker 1: This Chertoff gets these dancing Israelis out of jail. The
Speaker 1: same guy wrote the Patriot Act or co co wrote it,
Speaker 1: the Patriot Acts of the Act that took our freedoms away,
Speaker 1: that was pre written before nine to eleven. They used
Speaker 1: nine to eleven to passed it through. It just it
Speaker 1: goes endless. There can't be this many coincidences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's slowly coming out. The truth keeps coming out.
Speaker 2: Keeps coming out. And then then who you gonna blame now,
Speaker 2: I mean, and then that was that catalyst. Then you
Speaker 2: went into evading all these countries, you know, weapons of
Speaker 2: mass destruction, and you got the Iraq one million based
Speaker 2: on a lie.
Speaker 1: How many people, many children died in their sad and
Speaker 1: then people and Americans too, American soldiers. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: a guy who killed someone over there, and it's just
Speaker 1: like eats them up because he's like, I don't think
Speaker 1: I don't think I should have killed the guy. I
Speaker 1: think it was a situation where it was a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2: And then when I was interviewing my guest Bruce, he
Speaker 2: was he was talking to the Republican running first Senate
Speaker 2: he was and he didn't win, but he was talking
Speaker 2: about him. Also he came to a point which many
Speaker 2: people can relate. He was like, Muslims hate us because
Speaker 2: our way of life, you know, the whole nonsense that
Speaker 2: like these you got these people.
Speaker 1: Have these crazy taglines like that. What is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just they hate us because we're American, because.
Speaker 1: Our American You seem pretty happy.
Speaker 2: But there's a great documentary called Dirty Wars, and it
Speaker 2: just shows how you would have these raids happening in
Speaker 2: Afghanistan where people are just you know, enjoying a wedding
Speaker 2: and they got their kids out there. You know, their
Speaker 2: daughter just got married and next thing you know, they
Speaker 2: got some raid happens and you like kill off half
Speaker 2: the family. So of course you're creating hatred because you're
Speaker 2: going into ten from ten thousand miles away from ten
Speaker 2: thousand miles feed up, you're.
Speaker 1: Just dropping the drone kills your family. Imagine how like
Speaker 1: I'll be pretty damn angry if a drone killed my family.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: In Islam, you still you are not allowed to go
Speaker 2: ahead and kill non combatants. This is like and you
Speaker 2: can see how people will try to just about they
Speaker 2: killed one of ours. Now, no is from an Islamic standpoint,
Speaker 2: you cannot go ahead and kill a non combat You
Speaker 2: can't do that.
Speaker 1: This well, this can be very consciverse. So let's say,
Speaker 1: but I believe Amas with mostly attacking combatants, and they
Speaker 1: were trying to take hostages to trade hostages back. I
Speaker 1: don't think they were intentionally killing any noncombatants.
Speaker 2: Now you'll have certain people from Zionist rabbis who will
Speaker 2: go ahead. This is very disturbing. Imagine if you had
Speaker 2: some any mom will send me mom who's saying now
Speaker 2: that it's okay to, you know, take out kids because
Speaker 2: in the future they're going to end up becoming terrorist.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen that.
Speaker 1: I have, and I could never imagine someone saying it's
Speaker 1: okay to kill a Jewish child as it shouldn't know,
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. No people on Twitter that can basically say
Speaker 1: that about Muslims. I don't know. The double standard, Like
Speaker 1: the things I see people right are just insane. If
Speaker 1: you took that and switched it with Jewish child.
Speaker 2: If I saw in Israeli a Jewish child, that child,
Speaker 2: that Muslim will step up to save that child, that
Speaker 2: we would not want that child to die.
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't, You can't.
Speaker 2: You're not playing god that that child now is going
Speaker 2: to grow up and be an idea. We can you
Speaker 2: can lose that common sense, right, But no, you aage.
Speaker 1: Hurting a child. No, that is just the most despicable
Speaker 1: evil thing.
Speaker 2: You can earn yourself a seat to the health fire
Speaker 2: in Islam. You cannot do that, you know, so this
Speaker 2: is again a projection. You know what you know every
Speaker 2: you know, every accusation is is a confession.
Speaker 1: All the hostages from AMAS, none of them were raped
Speaker 1: and abused. Look at what they do to the It's
Speaker 1: just disgusting what they do to the prisoners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here we are, we're seeing masks come off,
Speaker 2: seeing that people who on what side of humanity is
Speaker 2: your humanity on? That's in common sense? Are you? Are
Speaker 2: you really somebody who wants to know the truth or
Speaker 2: you've just created something in your mind that now you
Speaker 2: want to believe all the lies and deception. But people
Speaker 2: like you, people like others you know, who are sincere,
Speaker 2: They want to know the truth, and they're really at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, America first and whatnot?
Speaker 1: Then real quick, just that from the other side of it.
Speaker 1: You know, most Americans from a young age, we've been
Speaker 1: fed this propaganda. So I was once believed it. So
Speaker 1: it's not like you're necessarily a bad person, but just
Speaker 1: I everyone pleases do a little research. It's hard to
Speaker 1: research because they control the media. But when I could,
Speaker 1: I was there, I could tell something wasn't right because
Speaker 1: they had this lie. They do it so good. You know,
Speaker 1: they specialize hes Brother, I think hesbro. They call it
Speaker 1: where it's like they're they paid u spread propaganda. So
Speaker 1: that so most Americans what is it called yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or was it called pasbor? How do what they call whatever?
Speaker 1: It's like basically the propaganda department there and they're amazing
Speaker 1: at it. But it's like you are you on the
Speaker 1: side of humanity or are you in the side of
Speaker 1: killing kids? And I don't care if you're Jewish, Christian, mostlim.
Speaker 1: So before we wrap him your post, this just hit
Speaker 1: a couple of things one min a little bit, and
Speaker 1: then a few more things about the Quran. So we
Speaker 1: know each other through jiu jitsu? How'd you get into that?
Speaker 2: You know, just like most of us, You know, you
Speaker 2: watched the early ufcs and then you see, I used
Speaker 2: to box kickbox and then I had a small guy
Speaker 2: who's about one hundred forty pounds and I went into
Speaker 2: they were doing a juitsu class and I went in
Speaker 2: and tried it out and the guy armlocked me. At
Speaker 2: that point, I was right, right, yeah, and I said,
Speaker 2: let me try again. And the next thing, you know,
Speaker 2: same thing. You get tired, and then the little guy
Speaker 2: just takes over. And then from there I was just like,
Speaker 2: you know, amazed, and I just from there, I you know,
Speaker 2: kept training. I was like training eight days a week.
Speaker 2: If there were eight days, I just doubled it up,
Speaker 2: you know in the morning. I just kept training. I
Speaker 2: loved it. Matt's in my house and I became the
Speaker 2: guy's top student. And I started to travel to Torrents
Speaker 2: over there with before Horion and Hoys before split. And
Speaker 2: at the time, yeah there were Hoist was there.
Speaker 1: That's been cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so at that time. And then they split,
Speaker 2: and then I ended up going to Brazil and connected
Speaker 2: with Carlos, Gracie Junior, Marcia Fetosa out there, and I
Speaker 2: became the first American ret for Gracy Baja. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: big family. So yeah, Helio Carlos and then Carlinos is
Speaker 2: the younger son for Carlos Senior. Became their first rep
Speaker 2: here for Gracy Baja. And that's it.
Speaker 1: That's why here you start training.
Speaker 2: It's late nineties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're I think you might have been before me.
Speaker 1: The night I started the end of ninety nine, I
Speaker 1: started training. It's just changed so much. Everyone should do
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu makes you a better man. Well, plus we
Speaker 1: all look at each other. There's like no racism on
Speaker 1: the mat. There's no classism. Doesn't matter if you're a
Speaker 1: janitor or you know, a billionaire. We're all eCos on
Speaker 1: the mat. And that's just such a great feeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolute, Yeah, so it's ever since, Yeah, just been
Speaker 2: uh been. Uh it gets into you and and most
Speaker 2: effective martial arts, you know what I mean. Now, when
Speaker 2: I was interviewing for Hoyce, we were talking about the
Speaker 2: beginnings because many people now the new generations come out,
Speaker 2: but how it all started and how what it gave
Speaker 2: birth to m M A right mixed martial arts. But
Speaker 2: nobody at that time was was mixing it up right.
Speaker 2: We just pure style was.
Speaker 1: Style versus style, and came in just dominating. Now you
Speaker 1: have to know all styles, but originally ju came in
Speaker 1: just dominating, showed pure is the best. Is that?
Speaker 2: How you also from the same thing, Gracie family.
Speaker 1: We watched I watched that, but I also wrestled.
Speaker 2: So I watched wrestling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I actually want to watch the wrestlers, but
Speaker 1: I fell more in love with jiu jitsu. But I
Speaker 1: met Chucolate Dall in college and went and trained with him,
Speaker 1: and he's just an amazing person. He took me under
Speaker 1: his wing as his mentor. But then I switched up
Speaker 1: to San Francisco and started training and or Caesar Racy
Speaker 1: and you know the nick Diaz. I didn't really I
Speaker 1: trained with Half later because you know how these gracies are,
Speaker 1: something like there's there was a falling out for a
Speaker 1: while between Caesar and Half. Now they're friends so I
Speaker 1: could trade. Yeah, so I could train in Half later
Speaker 1: in my career, but originally I couldn't, which I actually
Speaker 1: lived right next to the gym and I had to
Speaker 1: drive an hour out to Caesars. But they had that rivalry,
Speaker 1: you know how it was you couldn't You couldn't trained
Speaker 1: when there's that rivalry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, health good.
Speaker 1: So we're all. I'm friends with help now, but for
Speaker 1: a while I wasn't allowed to talk to him. I
Speaker 1: went against one of his top students at Abba Dabi
Speaker 1: and it was Caesar and Half, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I have to win this match. He actually like popped
Speaker 1: my arm, but I still won the match, like I'm
Speaker 1: not going to let Caesar down. You know, I could
Speaker 1: see there was a big rival to him, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I need to win this. Caesar and
Speaker 1: half a cornered against me, and Caesar's like, you have
Speaker 1: to win this. It's like, oh fuck, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure. But no, I love help. Now. He's a
Speaker 1: scary too, though. Man, he's a scary guy. He can
Speaker 1: be he can be mean, but great, great coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so great, so great to have been
Speaker 1: around these like legends, and I can same thing completely
Speaker 1: did to consume my life. It's just like all I
Speaker 1: can think about, all I could do. I couldn't help fighting.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like when kids asked me, should I
Speaker 1: be a fighter? I say no, because I wasn't asking
Speaker 1: him if I should be fighter. I was asking how
Speaker 1: can they help me? I was trying to talk Chuck
Speaker 1: into training me. Chuck's like, oh, I'm too busy training myself.
Speaker 1: But then then he let me tag along and like
Speaker 1: shadow him and be my mentor.
Speaker 2: You know, did he do some shit? So he's many wrestling, right.
Speaker 1: He looked pretty good, way underrated because there's one fight
Speaker 1: where he lost where he was gassing, got taken down.
Speaker 1: But he has a really good half guard, like high
Speaker 1: level black belt half guard. Now this whole game. He's
Speaker 1: not great everywhere, but he's good on top, got pretty
Speaker 1: good passing, way better to you than people would think.
Speaker 1: He's like definitely a black belt. But it's funny people
Speaker 1: have like I think he's only a striker, Like he's
Speaker 1: really hard to keep down and nasty stand up when
Speaker 1: he's not tired shows fight, he bounces right back like
Speaker 1: Randy takes him down. Those guys he gets right back
Speaker 1: up and he's just he's got. He hits hard, yeah,
Speaker 1: but great guy. One of the best people. So many
Speaker 1: good people in fighting, like Chuck Ideas, Nate Diaz, Jio Melndez,
Speaker 1: like my best friends have come through this. People just
Speaker 1: massive integrity, people that aren't users. You know, I'll do
Speaker 1: massive favors for them, but they do they do things back,
Speaker 1: you know. That's how friendship should be. I had a
Speaker 1: resta warrant for beating up some profighter, Mike Jackson, a
Speaker 1: complete clown, but he was mouthing off to me. We
Speaker 1: agreed to fight on site, so then I beat him up.
Speaker 1: Had restaurant chucks all that in the news. He has
Speaker 1: his attorney friend, you know, get the warrant poled, you know,
Speaker 1: and I was like sitting there thinking, I stressed out.
Speaker 1: How am I to find a lawyer. But Chuck's like
Speaker 1: a brother to me, so I've obviously done tough for
Speaker 1: him too because he's my mentor. But it shows he
Speaker 1: remembers these type of things. Wow, man, that's really such
Speaker 1: a great person.
Speaker 2: He got the attorney for you and that.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I mean I guess someone he knew. I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask the details, don't I didn't favor or what.
Speaker 1: But like I had a warrant port, I was like
Speaker 1: stressed out trying to figure how to get this a
Speaker 1: warrant poled and then Chucks, It's like, oh, I got it.
Speaker 1: It's it's good to have friends that are valuable like that,
Speaker 1: but you know that when you're there for there when
Speaker 1: they need something, they'll do it, but you do the
Speaker 1: same for them. I've learned. I've always been a very
Speaker 1: loyal person, but I've learned loyalty has to work both ways. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're probably doing the same thing where you've
Speaker 1: done a time for something and you call and ask
Speaker 1: for something simple and they're like, oh I can't do that,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh okay, yeah, let's you go both
Speaker 1: for you absolutely, and that that hurts but then I've learned, Okay,
Speaker 1: stop being stop being loyal to those people. Next time
Speaker 1: they call and need something, Oh, I can't do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we wrap any important things for the Koran
Speaker 1: to hit up any and that's kind of a hard
Speaker 1: question to hit it without.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean, people hear the Koran, and
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's really important to to just
Speaker 2: go ahead and read for yourself. You have any kind
Speaker 2: of questions or anything. I mean, talk to a Muslim,
Speaker 2: visit a mosque, I mean Muslims like you, you sell
Speaker 2: for yourself. You go to a Muslim country very you know,
Speaker 2: very hospitable, you know. And the Muslim simply the term
Speaker 2: Muslim means a submitter to God. Islam means submission.
Speaker 1: To the world of God.
Speaker 2: So most Muslims are people who, you know, want to
Speaker 2: live life. They obey the laws, people who want to
Speaker 2: take care of their families, live in peace and and and.
Speaker 1: It's an open book, you know.
Speaker 2: The Koran is tells tell us, there's there's con there
Speaker 2: is certain things that people take out of context, and
Speaker 2: they'll try to use certain verses. You know, I'll give
Speaker 2: you an interesting story for exac Yeah, Christian you know
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk. Right, Yeah, so I was a mutual friend
Speaker 2: of mine introduced me to Charlie Kirk. We never met
Speaker 2: in person, but we spoke on the phone and we
Speaker 2: were speaking over the uh the internet for the email
Speaker 2: sometimes and he would really pull some you know, really
Speaker 2: uh really crazy things.
Speaker 1: About he is misguided there, yeah, big time there.
Speaker 2: So then uh, he posted something very very bad and
Speaker 2: then I ended up reaching out and we jumped on
Speaker 2: a call together.
Speaker 1: Good at least he got on the phone with you.
Speaker 2: We got on the call, we spent like about forty
Speaker 2: five minutes on the on the on the call, we
Speaker 2: touched upon dispensationalism I talked with talked about that, and
Speaker 2: then we went into Islam. It was very respectful, very nice.
Speaker 2: He said, like, Eddie, I'm asking these questions.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: And he told me, you know, you have a forty
Speaker 2: five minute conversation. You don't remember everything, but for certain things.
Speaker 2: I remember. The one thing I remember that he said,
Speaker 2: I've been taught to hate Islam. Right, I've been talked.
Speaker 2: So now you know, he didn't know anything about Islam,
Speaker 2: but he's out there just repeating and posting things that
Speaker 2: he's that he's heard you know, the talking points that
Speaker 2: are out there, you know, trying to scare people, fear mongering, manufacturing,
Speaker 2: you know, manufacturing this hate. Because if you hear.
Speaker 1: Something want donors wanted that, and there you go.
Speaker 2: The donor is the Sheldon group, right, that's supporting that.
Speaker 2: So after our conversation, he asked me about certain verses
Speaker 2: from the Krown, because you asked me about the Crown,
Speaker 2: So he asked me about certain verses. Does the Koran
Speaker 2: say to kill Christians in here?
Speaker 1: So I hear?
Speaker 2: I hear that?
Speaker 1: Now crazy if people say that? Yeah, so you know
Speaker 1: I I.
Speaker 2: Go ahead and look, look, let me let me just
Speaker 2: let's do an experiment. Look, any verse that talks about
Speaker 2: that battle, it's in context, right. But there's one verse
Speaker 2: that will trump all these other verses because it doesn't
Speaker 2: take much. And I'm gonna I'm gonna just show it here.
Speaker 2: This is chapter sixty, verse eight. So when you go
Speaker 2: see it says here you want to read it eight
Speaker 2: right here?
Speaker 1: Which one right there? Starting it forbid God only forbids
Speaker 1: you from befriending those who have fought you for your
Speaker 1: faith driven driven you out of your homes or supported
Speaker 1: others in doing so, and whoever takes them as friends,
Speaker 1: then if they who are the true wrongdoers. So basically,
Speaker 1: as long as they're not so you can be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can be.
Speaker 2: So. Basically, God does not forbid you from fight, from
Speaker 2: from being dressedly fair with those who have not fought
Speaker 2: you because of your religion or driven you out of
Speaker 2: your homes.
Speaker 1: Yes, I so if I attacked you for your religion
Speaker 1: or allied with them, then yes me. But if I haven't.
Speaker 2: Someone calls your mother or whore you're going to, it's
Speaker 2: not budget that person. Yeah, but if you're insulting, you know,
Speaker 2: insulting our religion, our book, you're But people could be ignorant.
Speaker 2: We can talk about it, we can discuss and try
Speaker 2: to remove that ignorance. But if at the end of
Speaker 2: the day you want to know about the Koran, talk
Speaker 2: to a Muslim scholar, talk to a Muslim you know,
Speaker 2: because again you had in nineteen seventy nine, Time magazine
Speaker 2: did a did an article. Then in the span of
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty years there were sixty thousand anti
Speaker 2: Islam books published as before that's before internet. So imagine
Speaker 2: now how much propaganda is out there, and if you
Speaker 2: want to malign someone their faith or that's pretty.
Speaker 1: Easy to do, you know, you just I can go ahead.
Speaker 1: I can take Jesus, you can take the worst Muslim.
Speaker 2: I can take Jesus the Prince of piece who we
Speaker 2: love you say, Jesus the Prince of peace. And I
Speaker 2: can say, look, certain verses that you can put them
Speaker 2: out of context. For instance, is where Jesus says, I
Speaker 2: have not come to spread peace, but a sword.
Speaker 1: This is in the Bible.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard that.
Speaker 1: Yeah that Uh, there's times when a sword is needed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So now I can say, look, Prince of peace,
Speaker 2: but there's a context.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not fair.
Speaker 2: For a vehicle.
Speaker 1: Maybe the sword was needed in that context.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not fair for me to do that.
Speaker 2: So don't do that. If somebody, if you quote a
Speaker 2: verse from the Koran, read what's before and what's after
Speaker 2: it and the context. That's the main thing, because that's
Speaker 2: what people try to But ideally, what the message in
Speaker 2: the Koran is besides all of this is the Because
Speaker 2: what people do is they'll take the Pinal Code of
Speaker 2: Islam that represents maybe three four percent. You know, there's
Speaker 2: the amputation of the hand. There's for the criminals, right,
Speaker 2: you know, that's called the pinal code. And I give
Speaker 2: this example, Jake. Look, if aliens came from outer space
Speaker 2: and they want to know about the American Constitution and
Speaker 2: all we told them about was the electric chair, letho
Speaker 2: injection hanging and sent them on their way, what kind
Speaker 2: of impression would they get?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great example.
Speaker 2: Usual, yes, But so now people, you know, when you
Speaker 2: talk about Islam, they talk about, you know, the penal
Speaker 2: code of Islam, but they.
Speaker 1: Forget that, you know, don't be a thief too.
Speaker 2: Is that they forget about the family values. They forget
Speaker 2: about you know, you know when you see the what
Speaker 2: was the statement on the wall, the best of you
Speaker 2: among you are those who are the best manners in character. Right.
Speaker 2: So what Islam emphasizes that pure absolute monotheism of God,
Speaker 2: there's only one creator and being an upright human being.
Speaker 2: That's like the main message of Islam to one God
Speaker 2: and be morally upright.
Speaker 1: And you guys understand that people can make mistakes too.
Speaker 1: And if you make a mistake, so I ask people like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to like, what if I
Speaker 1: messed up and drink. It's like you know you can
Speaker 1: be forgiven. That is all you do is can do?
Speaker 1: You do your best?
Speaker 2: You exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't forgive you, God forgive you.
Speaker 2: There is a there's a beautiful statement by proble Muhammad.
Speaker 2: He said if the if the son of Adam came
Speaker 2: to me with sins up into the heavens, not ascribing
Speaker 2: partners to me, I would forgive. God is saying I
Speaker 2: forgive those sins. You know, if you have a sincere
Speaker 2: repentant heart. Now, in Islam, we believe in original goodness.
Speaker 2: We don't believe in original sin. That every child is
Speaker 2: born pure.
Speaker 1: That every I think that seems pretty apparent.
Speaker 2: Every child is not born with a stain on them
Speaker 2: or any what's called original sin. Okay, again, not to
Speaker 2: offending the Christians or anybody, but this is just our belief.
Speaker 2: That we believe that every messenger brought and taught puremidal theism,
Speaker 2: and that this original, constant, original goodness. Now, when you
Speaker 2: get to a stage of puberty, now you are accountable
Speaker 2: for your sins. But if you make a sin, you
Speaker 2: turn a two year old, you know, no, you're not accountable.
Speaker 1: If a two year old does something bad to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, no, no, you can discipline, don't get
Speaker 1: the room. But you can't. It's a bad person. And
Speaker 1: sometimes it's too trying to figure things out, you know.
Speaker 2: So those are those things, like we don't believe in
Speaker 2: what I call the JC goldkard, Like you're just going
Speaker 2: to put it on Jesus that he died for your sins. No,
Speaker 2: we don't believe in that, but we can agree to
Speaker 2: disagree on something. Right. We believe you're accountable as the
Speaker 2: Bible actually even says in the Bible that the father
Speaker 2: shall not bear the iniquity of the son, or the
Speaker 2: son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.
Speaker 1: You're accountable bear because some people have bad parents, they
Speaker 1: can't help. It's not their fault if you're born with
Speaker 1: bad parents.
Speaker 2: So you're you're, you're, you're aligning with this.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go against you know, anything bad
Speaker 1: about Christianity. But never really thought about the original sin.
Speaker 1: So they're saying, like a child is born with sin
Speaker 1: or is that Am I misunderstanding that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the that's the original concept of original sin.
Speaker 2: That because Adam sinned, he ate from the tree. Now
Speaker 2: we're carrying that stain.
Speaker 1: That term I've never really thought I actually thought about that.
Speaker 1: So a child is born with saying yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: child's so pure and innocent, which is why hurting a
Speaker 1: child is the most disgusting thing you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that's one thing that distinguishing is slamp
Speaker 2: is the pure absolute monotheism, not worshiping a man, not
Speaker 2: worshiping anything in creation only. There's a there's a very
Speaker 2: important concept worshiping the Creator, not the creation. That's the
Speaker 2: main message of Islam, not all of these other things
Speaker 2: that people will bring up I'm talking about. If you
Speaker 2: can dig this, if you can really understand this concept,
Speaker 2: worship the Creator, not the creation, anything that had a
Speaker 2: birth date, anything that walked the earth, you know, eight food,
Speaker 2: went to the bathroom. That's not God. And that's that's
Speaker 2: what you're going to find in the Koran teaching you
Speaker 2: who God is. It's the Creator speaking himself, talking about
Speaker 2: the life, to calm, paradise, hell fire, accountability, and that's
Speaker 2: that's really a simple message is straightforward.
Speaker 1: Be a good human being. Yeah, yeah, be a good
Speaker 1: human being. I think Christianity teaches that as well, yeah,
Speaker 1: be a good person, be the best you can. And
Speaker 1: none of us are perfect. We are. We are going
Speaker 1: to all sit occasionally, you know, unfortunately, that's that's reality.
Speaker 1: But just try try to stop, try to be better.
Speaker 1: You know, I've worked hard in life being a better man.
Speaker 1: I became better man. I'm still not perfect though, And take.
Speaker 2: Those verses from the See, this is the ironic thing.
Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of hypocrisy, you know,
Speaker 2: even if you know see blessed are the peacemakers. This
Speaker 2: is in the Bible. You'll love your enemies, right, turn
Speaker 2: to the cheek. But it's unfortunate now people who are
Speaker 2: misunderstand that. Yeah, you know, what I'm saying is towards Muslims.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you're not going to bring us to Let's
Speaker 2: say you love your enemy, the Muslim We're the enemies
Speaker 2: right attacking those day and night. You know, talk to us.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead, I let's let's have conversations like this
Speaker 2: like we're having and and you know, come to us,
Speaker 2: not to the hate industry to learn about.
Speaker 1: Don't watch one bad Muslim and be like, oh they're
Speaker 1: terrible people. You know, there's there's bad Christians like you said, bad,
Speaker 1: bad Jewish people.
Speaker 2: You don't go to a uh to a krop magag
Speaker 2: guy to learn about jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1: Right now or any martial art I found interesting. I
Speaker 1: was a sneak o he'd sparred and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to pray and like I'll see you after.
Speaker 1: He's like, why don't you come with me. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not Muslim. He's like, you still can come. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that non Muslims were allowed in the mosques. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I went in and there was like four or
Speaker 1: five fighters from my gym there. I was like shocked.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of people recognized me to be
Speaker 1: at the palace that they treated me so good, you know,
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, if you ever need any questions.
Speaker 1: Muslims do a really good job of recruiting. But without
Speaker 1: being like two in your face. People are always like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you have questions, come to me. You know, send
Speaker 1: me the They send me the copy of the Koran.
Speaker 1: They do a much better job Christians, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: Muslims do a much much better job. Maybe it's because
Speaker 1: I'm America though, and they figure I haven't I haven't
Speaker 1: been exposed to it, but they always Hey, if you
Speaker 1: have questions, please reach out like even very helpful and
Speaker 1: do a good job of trying to bring people over.
Speaker 1: And Christians.
Speaker 2: If you if you open up the Bible, if you
Speaker 2: look at you know the way that Jesus he worshiped.
Speaker 2: You know, in the in the Gospel of Matthew twenty
Speaker 2: six thirty nine, it says about Jesus that he fell
Speaker 2: on his face and prayed to God twenty six thirty nine.
Speaker 2: Matthew twenty six thirty nine. When you saw Sneako praying,
Speaker 2: how is he praying? He was falling on his face
Speaker 2: praying to God? To who, to the God that Jesus worshiped.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: It's the same with one God. Clearly, that's the only
Speaker 1: one God.
Speaker 2: So you'll see this. We're just we're practicing the original
Speaker 2: way of all the prophets. That's how they prayed, how
Speaker 2: they greeted sam Lake, that's in the Bible.
Speaker 1: You heard this, peace be with you. That means peace
Speaker 1: be with you, calling a peace. Therefore we're friends, right exactly,
Speaker 1: and we can't like it means we've called a prayer.
Speaker 1: Even if he were enemies it's like a temporarily truth
Speaker 1: usual you just hate to friends, but calling for peace.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. So you have fasting in there, you have
Speaker 2: all you know, and I mean, and.
Speaker 1: That's tough fasting. I've never done the whole day of
Speaker 1: my friends, but I've done a couple of days with
Speaker 1: them before when they're fasting. Help man, that's tough.
Speaker 2: But now it has become a trend. You have a
Speaker 2: lot of health experts. Everybody's talking about George A. Pierre
Speaker 2: talks about FASTI right, and.
Speaker 1: It feels good too for your mental self to sometimes
Speaker 1: like fast for a couple of days. Then you, guys,
Speaker 1: obviously at nightfall you can eat. But it's hard during
Speaker 1: the summer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's actually it's not. You're just restraining
Speaker 2: before the sun comes up, and then you abstrained, abstained
Speaker 2: from food, drink, relationshis with your wife and then when
Speaker 2: the sun goes down, and then you go ahead and
Speaker 2: you eat.
Speaker 1: I think it's good sometimes two to have discipline for
Speaker 1: a while for me and my whole life for fighting.
Speaker 1: I would do that, whether it be uka two months
Speaker 1: of pure discipline. So this is where you guys take
Speaker 1: a month of pure discipline but it kind of recleanses you.
Speaker 1: It's good for the soul, I think. But and it's not.
Speaker 2: People get confused like, oh, you're just it's about the food.
Speaker 2: It's not because there is that God already tells us
Speaker 2: that I don't need I don't need you giving up fasting.
Speaker 2: But now you're cursing, lying, you know, you're you're being treacherous, doing.
Speaker 1: All these other bad things.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to develop you to have more God consciousness
Speaker 2: while you're doing the fasting and abstaining from other things
Speaker 2: that you're.
Speaker 1: Not supposed to be doing to develop.
Speaker 2: It's a spiritual boot camp to help you to be
Speaker 2: a better human being overall.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm during your podcast right and I was saying,
Speaker 1: keep talking, but we're going to so I guess we
Speaker 1: should wrap this up and then we'll start start for
Speaker 1: your show. Thank you so much. Oh where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Obviously the Dean Show, anything you know she
Speaker 1: want to plug? Yeah, the Dean Show. That's it.
Speaker 2: You can go see me there and we can see
Speaker 2: our next program coming.
Speaker 1: Up, you know what. I have one more question? Was
Speaker 1: it your brother or cousin? Who was it that had
Speaker 1: that altercation at the super viral. It was like a
Speaker 1: store or someone the store.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my that was my cousin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tell the story real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah you could show the video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he put up with the video up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my cousin.
Speaker 2: He's, by the way, one of my top students.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know him too. That's why I felt terrible.
Speaker 1: It was I did terrible, Like I think his name
Speaker 1: because I know him really well. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So he was in I think it was a seven
Speaker 2: to eleven and he saw somebody making trouble and I
Speaker 2: think he assaulted one of the workers and then he
Speaker 2: came in.
Speaker 1: He did it.
Speaker 2: He took him down, he gift wrapped him, he mounted him,
Speaker 2: and then you know, nowadays, what happens is, uh, you're
Speaker 2: trying to help, you're being a good samaritan, but then
Speaker 2: you might face some legal issues or something.
Speaker 1: What's going on.
Speaker 2: So he took out the phone and he started Facebook.
Speaker 1: Live with Yeah it was live, I know, it was
Speaker 1: like a big deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he went live and it took about like
Speaker 2: twenty minutes for the police to just holding the guy
Speaker 2: and he's having a conversation with the guy back and forth,
Speaker 2: and finally the police came and.
Speaker 1: That was it. Yeah, I'll find the video for that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess we should wrap so you can
Speaker 1: do yours day. Thanks so much. That was anytime brother.
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Speaker 2: M hmm.