WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.800 Hello everyone, Welcome back to a brand new episode of 2 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.679 the Poker Go Podcast. It is Monday, November eleventh. My 3 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:22.399 name is Donna Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth. The 4 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:25.199 should I call you the shape shifter? Like, well, I 5 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.320 don't you know? Every time I see you have a 6 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:29.800 bit of a different look going on. You put a 7 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.840 photo on Instagram saying you look like a homeless person. 8 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:35.479 Now I saw you. I saw you dressed as a 9 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:38.920 cowboy at one point, like you've been all over the place. 10 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:45.640 Please listen, therapy session. Okay, talk me through your midlife crisis, 11 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:48.200 because clearly that's what's happening here. Have you bought a 12 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:51.240 Ferrari yet? Like you know what's what's next. 13 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.520 See, that's the thing with a midleft cristis everyone buys 14 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:57.200 a car, right, They buy the Corvette, they buy the Ferrari, 15 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.640 they buy the Porsche. I'm doing it in different ways, 16 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:01.840 growing the hand. 17 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.439 Well you did. You did recently buy a Tesla? 18 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:05.640 So was that that was lost year? That wasn't even 19 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.640 part of the midlife crisis. I'm growing the hair, I'm 20 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:12.879 growing the beard, Experimenting with clothes, buying some more clothes. 21 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:16.239 It's a much cheaper way to have a midlife crisis 22 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:20.239 than to buy a car. So the family should be 23 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:20.680 happy with that. 24 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:25.120 Okay, okay, I mean listen, I like the new style. 25 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:26.560 You know, I'm not gonna hate it, and I know 26 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:28.239 I know a bunch of people clown on it, but. 27 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:30.640 I enjoy it. 28 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:33.000 You know, you look good out there. Don't let people 29 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:33.480 get you down. 30 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:35.599 It's like I don't have any shame. I don't mind 31 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:36.599 what people say anymore. 32 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.400 That's that's good. That's good. Today we're going to talk 33 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:43.799 about NPT Las Vegas wrapping up. We'll recap some of 34 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:46.000 the winners. Of course, there were some very big winners 35 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:47.599 as part of the series, we'll hit on some other 36 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:52.040 notable ones. Tim and I will give our series thoughts 37 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.079 and feedback. We were there pretty much every single day 38 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:00.000 over the course of the napt's return, so we'll touch 39 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.159 on all of that. We have some other news from 40 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:07.159 Poker Stars in that they signed two new ambassadors, so 41 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.479 we will hit on that. We got to talk about 42 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:14.639 the PGT leaderboard because two events as part of the 43 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:18.240 NPT Las Vegas qualified for the PGT, so we will 44 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:22.159 hit on those events and how they shook up the leaderboard. 45 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.800 As it also pertains to the PGT. We got some 46 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.240 events coming up to close out the season, of course, 47 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:32.479 and then we did recently announce the first group of 48 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.960 events for twenty twenty five, so stay tuned to hear 49 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:40.120 about that. I guess we'll go across the pond Triton 50 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:44.080 Poker Series. Monte Carlo is running some massive buying tournaments 51 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:47.719 happening over there and some very big notable winners that 52 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:50.280 we need to mention. 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First things first, we have the 88 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:03.160 main event eight hundred eighty five entries, which is freaking enormous. 89 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.439 Five hundred and forty three uniques is what I saw 90 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:10.279 listed on the results sheet from Poker Stars three hundred 91 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:13.839 and fifty two entries. The main event had a fifty 92 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:17.279 three hundred dollars buy in this year, up from last 93 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:19.040 years what was it sixteen fifty last year. 94 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.399 Sixteen sixteen hundred flat right. 95 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:25.800 Yeah, I can't remember exactly what it was, but much smaller. Nonetheless, 96 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:28.040 so this year they bumped it up. Tim and I 97 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:32.040 have obviously talked about that at length. They slapped on 98 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:36.399 a bigger guarantee three million. They smashed that guarantee four million, 99 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:40.600 three hundred and forty thousand dollars in prize money, so 100 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.360 incredible turnout for them. You know, talking with some of 101 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.399 the Poker Stars people ahead of time, it seemed like 102 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:51.920 they were I would say small c concerned about the guarantee, 103 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.920 you know, questioning if that it was gonna hit. I 104 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:56.759 thought it was a no brainer that it was gonna hit. 105 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:03.519 So you know, I think they landed kind of within 106 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.759 the window where it doesn't qualify as a fake guarantee. 107 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:11.040 My window is a live poker tournament guarantee. Should the 108 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:13.839 end result the prize school should be ten to twenty 109 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:17.399 five percent higher than the guarantee, Like, it shouldn't be 110 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.279 like one hundred percent higher. It shouldn't be seventy five 111 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:22.199 percent higher. It shouldn't be two hundred percent. You know, 112 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.000 a million dollar guarantee and you have a four million 113 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:25.639 dollar prize pool, Like, no, that means you said a 114 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:29.600 bad guarantee. So I think this is a pretty good guarantee. 115 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.639 I also probably think that it gives them confidence to 116 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:36.480 up it next year if they do come back. So 117 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:40.199 we'll see. Nick Marchington, the twenty six year old out 118 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.839 of the UK, won at all seven hundred and sixty 119 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:46.839 five thousand dollars for him. He defeated Joel Mika in 120 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.639 second place four hundred and seventy eight k for Micah MICCA. 121 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:57.040 He took second place I think in the PCA yeapt yeah, 122 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:00.720 I mean just just the serial run up finisher. I 123 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.480 guess Marchington had the chip lead late in the tournament 124 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.199 on the second to last day, carried that chip lead 125 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.240 into the final table and then never gave up the 126 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.680 chip let. Just an absolute masterclass of what to do 127 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.959 with the chip lead, how to apply pressure, how to 128 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.600 stay aggressive, you know, just really leveraging his stack, the 129 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.279 ICM implications that were at play, all of that sort 130 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:25.480 of stuff. I've played with Marchington in the past. It 131 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.000 is no ef and fun to play with that kid. 132 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.560 He is so freaking good, so freaking aggressive. He battles 133 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.360 in every single pot. I know. Our good friend Monuara 134 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:38.560 played with him deep in this event. Mo ended up 135 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.839 cashing had to battle with Marchington on I think day two, 136 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:49.079 and it's just, I mean, it's just hard playing against 137 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.160 somebody like this. He's so young, he's so good, he's 138 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:56.519 so hungry to just get after it in every single hand. 139 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.160 I know. I mentioned that he's from the UK, but 140 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.439 Marchington does spend a lot of his time here in 141 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:05.480 Las Vegas. He plays a lot of cash games here, 142 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.519 plays a lot of tournaments you know, around town as well, 143 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.680 so he's always out there battling. And yeah, I mean, 144 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:17.560 I guess people got first word of him. What twenty 145 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:21.759 nineteen ws BE Main Event final table he took even 146 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:25.560 plays I want to say our good friend Gary Gates 147 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:27.959 got fourth place that year. Nick Marchington was at the 148 00:08:27.959 --> 00:08:30.959 final table. There was some some I guess controversy coming 149 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:32.879 out of that where him and his backers and this 150 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:36.039 whole thing, the staking agreement. It was all you know, 151 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:40.039 talked about on social media, in the press, whatnot. But 152 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.159 sounds like everything kind of got sorted out with that situation. 153 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.039 And you know, Marchington has gone on to have a 154 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:49.559 from at least for everything that I can tell, a 155 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:54.000 very successful career. I know it's still very young for him, 156 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.200 but I would expect him to just continue to go 157 00:08:57.240 --> 00:09:00.559 on and crush and and started, you know, started exploring 158 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.519 I guess bigger buyings, high rollers, that sort of thing. 159 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:05.840 You know, you have a massive score like this seven 160 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.080 hundred and sixty five k. You know that really pads 161 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.120 the bank roll. And I think he has what it 162 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.279 takes to take take that next step. So so yeah, 163 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.440 just running out this final table, Jeff mats In third place, 164 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:21.320 Marco Johnson fourth place, Kurt Colbert fifth place, Masado Jokasawa 165 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:26.480 sixth place, Brock Wilson seventh, and Matt Aflac eighth. What 166 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.399 do you got thoughts on the main event, sir. 167 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:31.919 It was huge. Yeah, I didn't think it was going 168 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:37.600 to get nearly nine hundred entrance. Really yeah, it's you know, 169 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:40.039 we obviously had try it none it is a bigger 170 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:44.039 buying than normal. The satellites, you know, weren't doing that 171 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:47.919 great leading up to the series, so I knew it 172 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:50.120 was going to break the guarantee. But yeah, nine hundred 173 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.480 is a great result. I guess the first question is, 174 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.559 you know, if they're bringing this back next year and 175 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.039 everything we've kind of heard off the like under the radar, 176 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:00.879 is that, of course it's coming back. Will they put 177 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.320 the move the guarantee up? You know, are they going 178 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:04.759 to go to three and a half million? Are they 179 00:10:04.759 --> 00:10:07.759 going to go to four million? I guess that's the 180 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.279 first question I have about the main event. But yeah, 181 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.480 great turnout. Very impressed by everything that's happened this week 182 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:16.799 at results. 183 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:21.519 Well, I mean you and I were there every single day, 184 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.200 so I guess we have some some thoughts, some feedback 185 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:29.080 on how things played out. Just quickly in the main events, 186 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:32.360 we did have Matthew Wantman finishing in tenth place. David 187 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:36.159 od b Baker got thirteenth, Maria Kanakova got fourteenth as 188 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:40.039 my Dog's bark in the background hubsbe main event champion 189 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:44.279 Jonathan Tamayo twenty third place, and then last year's champion 190 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:47.480 of the NAPT Las Vegas main event, Sammy besha Head. 191 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:52.120 He got thirty seven, so nice run there for the 192 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.799 defending champ. An APT Las Vegas did have two high rollers. 193 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.360 They had what they have last year, one ten K 194 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.000 and a five K. I think they called the five 195 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:02.639 K the high roller. That was the one that. 196 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:06.519 Ye depends what you define high rollers as. 197 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.639 I'm saying what they called it, what they titled it 198 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.399 as I think last year was a five K Yeah, 199 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:17.320 and Samuel lasko Its won it. I believe Shannon Shores 200 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:19.159 at the final table. I think Jesse Lowns is at 201 00:11:19.200 --> 00:11:19.840 the final table. 202 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:21.919 This year. 203 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.600 They they upped their game in the high roller section 204 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.440 of things, partnered with the PGT as well. Both these 205 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.759 high rollers were PGT qualifying events. They had a twenty 206 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:32.759 five K super high roller and they had a ten thousand, 207 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:36.440 three hundred dollars high roller. In the twenty five K. 208 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:40.600 Stevens Song topped sixty entries to win almost four hundred 209 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:45.399 and forty thousand dollars. This is now officially Song's best 210 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:49.679 year ever on the Live Felt in terms of tournament winnings. 211 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:52.639 In twenty twenty two he won two million, two hundred 212 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:54.720 and eighty two thousand dollars. This year he's up to 213 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.360 two million, five hundred and thirty two thousand dollars in winnings. 214 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:01.679 Also this year, of course, Tim and I talked about 215 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.600 it at length, you know, during the run, because we 216 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:07.399 did daily podcast from the World Series of Poker. But 217 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:10.320 Stephen Song got fifty seventh in the twenty twenty fours 218 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.080 BE Main event for one hundred and sixty K. Then 219 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:17.720 he went on to win EPT Barcelona for one point 220 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:22.559 twenty nine million euros aka one million, four hundred and 221 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:26.519 twenty five thousand dollars. At the twenty five k NAPT 222 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:28.960 Las Vegas Super high Roller Final table, it was Song 223 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.440 up on top. He defeated Sean Winter in heads up play. 224 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.960 Winter got two hundred and eighty AK. Then it was 225 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:39.279 ed Sebesta third place, Jim Collopy fourth place, Elias Gutierrez 226 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.759 fifth place, Thomas Etcien sixth place, Brock Wilson seventh place, 227 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:47.320 mentioning brock Wilson's name again, and then Paul Jagger got 228 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.080 eighth place there big money one of course, lots of 229 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:55.600 PGT points up for grabs in this event. The PGT points, 230 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:57.720 of course, as it pertains to a twenty five K 231 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:01.320 buy an event on the PGT are point six to 232 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.639 the dollar. So Tim and I will talk about how 233 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:10.240 this implemented her changed up the PGT leaderboard a little 234 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.720 bit later on. But Stephen Song taking it all down 235 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.480 four hundred and forty k, tremendous year for him, and 236 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.600 it continues. Would expect more things, you know, he won, 237 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.120 he won the WPT Prime. 238 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:22.039 Was it last year? 239 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:22.559 No? 240 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:23.159 Two years ago? 241 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:23.840 Two years ago? 242 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:27.919 Yeah, So I would expect he's back in at the 243 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:33.799 win in December, so his year probably not done, you know, 244 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.559 so so yeah. And then over in the ten K 245 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:41.639 high Roller, one hundred and seventy entries, hell up, good lord, 246 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.000 Sam's overall top of the field there to win three 247 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.559 hundred and eighty five thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars, 248 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.279 his third PGT win of the season, his ninth PGT 249 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:57.240 victory overall in history, his tenth PGT cash this season. Also, 250 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.279 this win did push him into the top four of 251 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.720 the leaderboard again. We'll discuss that a little bit more later. 252 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.519 He defeated Nick Sewart in heads up play. Seward got 253 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.159 two hundred and forty one K for second place. Sewart 254 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.919 is enjoyed quite the breakout year on the poker. Felts also, 255 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.440 you know, taking his career to the next level in 256 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.679 terms of you know, firing at some high rollers and 257 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:24.480 battling there and seeing some success. Barry wood Woods excuse me, 258 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:29.159 got third, David Coleman got fourth, Valentine Shall Bennick got fifth, 259 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:34.200 Adam Adler sixth, Danny Wong seventh, and Brian Altman took eighth. 260 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:36.440 You got any thoughts there? Pretty good turnouts? What do 261 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:36.799 you think? 262 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.720 Yeah, exceptional turnout. I'm a big believe of that. 263 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:43.320 Exceptionally exceptional. 264 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:44.879 Yeah, one hundred and seventy exceptional. 265 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:46.879 Well what about the sixty for the twenty five k? 266 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:47.919 Is that also exceptional? 267 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.399 Yes, that's very good too. I think when you have 268 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.120 these series, and we saw this last yea at NMPT, 269 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:56.799 when you have a high roller at the end, you 270 00:14:56.799 --> 00:14:59.320 get a lot of people playing up, you know, up 271 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:00.879 to the buy and because you know they'd be the 272 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:02.879 bus of the main event or they've cashed the main event, 273 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.480 got some extra money, or they just want to try 274 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:08.559 and get on stock, so you know, the selling pieces 275 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.600 taking shots, So you get a lot of plays in 276 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:14.039 these events that you would never normally come for a 277 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:17.639 high roller series of the same buying price point. So 278 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:22.759 you always know that this, like you know, backup schedule 279 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.320 ten K is always going to be huge and yeah 280 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.120 shout one hundred and seventy entrants. 281 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:32.399 Yeah, so I agree with you. You know, like if you 282 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:35.679 were to draw a parallel to what we do on 283 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:38.720 the PGT for example, you know, like say, whoa, why 284 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.639 don't we get one hundred and seventy entries in our tenks? Well, 285 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:45.200 it's just it's just a different series, as Tim pointed out, 286 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:49.240 where it takes like kind of one caliber of player, 287 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:52.159 one size of bank role to come out to play 288 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:55.759 like the entire Poker Masters versus you're coming out to 289 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.279 play napt Las Vegas. You're gonna fire like the eleven 290 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.600 hundred dollar run good Open, You're gonna fire the main event. 291 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:02.279 You're going to play some of these small assidements, and 292 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:03.799 then you're going to take like your one or two 293 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:07.440 shots in the ten k, maybe the twenty five k, right, 294 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.840 So that that's just how it's approached versus if you're 295 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.480 coming out for again, let's say the poker masters, right, 296 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.519 there's not like that small stuff to play and then 297 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:19.960 you take a shot. So so yeah, I mean, I 298 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:23.279 I you know, I love the five K price point, 299 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:27.919 and I think it's absolutely positively wide open in the 300 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.519 US and somebody needs to take it. Maybe that'll be 301 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.519 the NAPT, maybe it won't, who knows. 302 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.399 Yeah you say no, I was going to mention about 303 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:40.120 the five K price point. You know, we've heard of 304 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.960 other locations potentially for NAPT in North America. I'm just 305 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.519 wondering if some of these other locations, like whether it's 306 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:53.759 on Ontario, Michigan and Pennsylvania or whatever, can they could 307 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:56.679 they sustain a five K price point, because I think 308 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:01.519 it too should have wherever the n APT goes, it 309 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:04.480 should continue the cadence of a five k main event. 310 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:09.240 But can those other markets support that price point, you know, 311 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.119 even a something close to that guarantee. 312 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:17.759 So I mean, let's let's let's do some sketching here 313 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.640 where where. So I see two ways for the n 314 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:24.160 APT to go. One is the five K price point. 315 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:24.519 You have. 316 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.240 Let's say four events a year. I just don't know 317 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:32.759 if there's more venue slash locations that you can work 318 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.519 with that can support a five K. So you do, 319 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:38.680 you know, essentially quarterly events right at the five K 320 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:42.200 price point, make them like this, I could. I would 321 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:43.880 even say that you could probably extend them to be 322 00:17:43.920 --> 00:17:46.880 like two weeks long as opposed to ten days, so 323 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:50.480 cram more stuff in there. So I think that's that's 324 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:52.759 kind of like path A that they could go down. 325 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:55.000 The other path that I think that they could go 326 00:17:55.119 --> 00:18:01.440 down is have a lot of nap events, be like 327 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:05.839 last year's and then the Las Vegas one is their 328 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:09.319 quote unquote Grand Final, which is kind of what you 329 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:13.079 did with the EPT years ago, Like all the epts 330 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:15.599 were five k's and then you had the Monte Carlo 331 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.720 Grand Final was the ten k. Right, yeah, so you 332 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.440 could you could do that. And I mean, listen, I 333 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:24.559 love the five K price point, don't get me wrong, 334 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:28.200 but I also know that like the the fifteen hundred 335 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.519 dollars price point, like the regional mid major tour price 336 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:35.279 point is freaking booming in the US, like, you know, 337 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.480 so you could do something where it's like, I don't know, 338 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:42.519 five to six of those and more markets can support that, 339 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:44.960 and then they all kind of play into this grand 340 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.160 final event in Las Vegas, the big destination. It closes 341 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.720 the season, like all that sort of stuff, right, So 342 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:54.160 I think that that could could work, and you could 343 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:59.920 you could also maybe shift the napt Las Vegas window 344 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.920 to be closer to December, if not in December, where 345 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:08.000 then you draw in everything that's happening in December in Vegas. 346 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:09.640 No, I go the other way. I think it needs 347 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:13.720 to be further away from December because we see this. 348 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:16.279 Okay, hold on what I'll say that that's not bad, 349 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.920 Like it can't. Like I feel like this window is 350 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:24.119 kind of weird because it's like maybe some people wait 351 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:26.279 to just come back in two three weeks for the 352 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:28.680 wind and all that sort of stuff, right, So, like 353 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:30.160 I agree with you, it kind of needs to go 354 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:32.559 further away or closer like one or the other, like 355 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.039 the weird middle ground. You know, it's a little weird. 356 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:38.000 But anyway, continue I think it's I think the window 357 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:40.880 is fine because of one reason. They now own this window. 358 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:42.640 They own the first two weeks of November. They did 359 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:44.799 it last year, they did it this year. Nothing has 360 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:48.079 stepped on their toes. You know, let's say I'm going 361 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:50.720 to organize an event for November next year, Well, I'm 362 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:53.960 going to wait or at least, you know, do some 363 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:56.680 digging about napt first, because they've kind of planted their 364 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:59.000 flag so they can own this window. I think it's 365 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:03.000 just enough away from win, you know, basically three weeks 366 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.160 where people can go home and come back if we 367 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:08.200 went if the festival was any longer, then yeah, you 368 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.440 have these people are going to have these decision points 369 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.640 that do I want to stay even though it's f one, 370 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.119 it's going to be expensive. I would honestly say go 371 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:16.920 earlier if you're going to move it at all. But 372 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:19.960 they've planned the flag. Let them just own this two 373 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:25.160 weeks in November. And I do love your idea of 374 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.599 having more like a feeder. You know, you could go 375 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:31.279 to Michigan, Ontario, Pennsylvania at a fifteen hundred price point, 376 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:35.039 you could do maybe they can find partnerships in you know, 377 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:40.599 Florida or in California, wherever Texas, who knows, and continue 378 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:43.559 this kind of like tier two buy in price point, 379 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:47.519 but also feeds. You can run extensive satellites, you know, 380 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:51.319 like ten C guarantees or ten package guarantees at these stops, 381 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:54.599 and you know, you can kind of build the narrative 382 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:59.039 towards the Vegas main event, where hey, we've qualified you know, 383 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.319 thirty forty fifty people from all these stops around the country, 384 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:06.079 plus everyone online, plus all these promotions we're doing, et cetera, 385 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.440 and you can start thinking, wait, we did three million 386 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:13.039 dollar prize will guarantee this year, Let's do four million. 387 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:15.480 You know, this is our plan to get to four 388 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:17.640 million next year. We're going to do five million. Here's 389 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:20.359 our plan, and kind of make it. Build it, you know, 390 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:23.839 really build a big tour. Because I think a lot 391 00:21:23.839 --> 00:21:27.680 of people love the stop. They loved how the ballroom looked. 392 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:33.160 It's obviously it's I think I think players in general 393 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:35.839 want to experience new things. You know, we saw our 394 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:39.079 players skip events to go play random stuff in Asia 395 00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:43.279 and Taiwan and Australia, et cetera, just to do something different. 396 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:46.079 And I think this having this in Vegas is different 397 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:48.079 to World Series, it's different to win, it's different to 398 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.200 PGT and players want to experience something slightly different every 399 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:53.000 now and then. 400 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:58.079 Yeah, So I think now, after like hearing you talk 401 00:21:58.079 --> 00:21:59.359