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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a brand new episode of

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the Poker Go Podcast. It is Monday, November eleventh. My

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name is Donna Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth. The

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should I call you the shape shifter? Like, well, I

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don't you know? Every time I see you have a

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bit of a different look going on. You put a

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photo on Instagram saying you look like a homeless person.

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Now I saw you. I saw you dressed as a

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cowboy at one point, like you've been all over the place.

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Please listen, therapy session. Okay, talk me through your midlife crisis,

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because clearly that's what's happening here. Have you bought a

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Ferrari yet? Like you know what's what's next.

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Speaker 2: See, that's the thing with a midleft cristis everyone buys

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a car, right, They buy the Corvette, they buy the Ferrari,

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they buy the Porsche. I'm doing it in different ways,

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growing the hand.

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Speaker 1: Well you did. You did recently buy a Tesla?

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Speaker 2: So was that that was lost year? That wasn't even

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part of the midlife crisis. I'm growing the hair, I'm

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growing the beard, Experimenting with clothes, buying some more clothes.

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It's a much cheaper way to have a midlife crisis

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than to buy a car. So the family should be

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happy with that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I mean listen, I like the new style.

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You know, I'm not gonna hate it, and I know

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I know a bunch of people clown on it, but.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look good out there. Don't let people

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get you down.

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Speaker 2: It's like I don't have any shame. I don't mind

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what people say anymore.

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Speaker 1: That's that's good. That's good. Today we're going to talk

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about NPT Las Vegas wrapping up. We'll recap some of

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the winners. Of course, there were some very big winners

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as part of the series, we'll hit on some other

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notable ones. Tim and I will give our series thoughts

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and feedback. We were there pretty much every single day

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over the course of the napt's return, so we'll touch

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on all of that. We have some other news from

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Poker Stars in that they signed two new ambassadors, so

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we will hit on that. We got to talk about

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the PGT leaderboard because two events as part of the

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NPT Las Vegas qualified for the PGT, so we will

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hit on those events and how they shook up the leaderboard.

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As it also pertains to the PGT. We got some

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events coming up to close out the season, of course,

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and then we did recently announce the first group of

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events for twenty twenty five, so stay tuned to hear

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about that. I guess we'll go across the pond Triton

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Poker Series. Monte Carlo is running some massive buying tournaments

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happening over there and some very big notable winners that

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we need to mention. And then I want to hit

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b napt Las Vegas. First things first, we have the

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main event eight hundred eighty five entries, which is freaking enormous.

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Five hundred and forty three uniques is what I saw

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listed on the results sheet from Poker Stars three hundred

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and fifty two entries. The main event had a fifty

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three hundred dollars buy in this year, up from last

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years what was it sixteen fifty last year.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen sixteen hundred flat right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember exactly what it was, but much smaller. Nonetheless,

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so this year they bumped it up. Tim and I

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have obviously talked about that at length. They slapped on

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a bigger guarantee three million. They smashed that guarantee four million,

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three hundred and forty thousand dollars in prize money, so

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incredible turnout for them. You know, talking with some of

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the Poker Stars people ahead of time, it seemed like

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they were I would say small c concerned about the guarantee,

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you know, questioning if that it was gonna hit. I

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thought it was a no brainer that it was gonna hit.

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So you know, I think they landed kind of within

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the window where it doesn't qualify as a fake guarantee.

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My window is a live poker tournament guarantee. Should the

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end result the prize school should be ten to twenty

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five percent higher than the guarantee, Like, it shouldn't be

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like one hundred percent higher. It shouldn't be seventy five

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percent higher. It shouldn't be two hundred percent. You know,

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a million dollar guarantee and you have a four million

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dollar prize pool, Like, no, that means you said a

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bad guarantee. So I think this is a pretty good guarantee.

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I also probably think that it gives them confidence to

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up it next year if they do come back. So

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we'll see. Nick Marchington, the twenty six year old out

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of the UK, won at all seven hundred and sixty

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five thousand dollars for him. He defeated Joel Mika in

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second place four hundred and seventy eight k for Micah MICCA.

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I mean just just the serial run up finisher. I

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guess Marchington had the chip lead late in the tournament

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on the second to last day, carried that chip lead

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into the final table and then never gave up the

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chip let. Just an absolute masterclass of what to do

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with the chip lead, how to apply pressure, how to

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stay aggressive, you know, just really leveraging his stack, the

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ICM implications that were at play, all of that sort

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of stuff. I've played with Marchington in the past. It

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is no ef and fun to play with that kid.

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He is so freaking good, so freaking aggressive. He battles

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in every single pot. I know. Our good friend Monuara

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played with him deep in this event. Mo ended up

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cashing had to battle with Marchington on I think day two,

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and it's just, I mean, it's just hard playing against

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somebody like this. He's so young, he's so good, he's

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so hungry to just get after it in every single hand.

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Las Vegas. He plays a lot of cash games here,

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plays a lot of tournaments you know, around town as well,

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so he's always out there battling. And yeah, I mean,

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nineteen ws BE Main Event final table he took even

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plays I want to say our good friend Gary Gates

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got fourth place that year. Nick Marchington was at the

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final table. There was some some I guess controversy coming

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out of that where him and his backers and this

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whole thing, the staking agreement. It was all you know,

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talked about on social media, in the press, whatnot. But

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sounds like everything kind of got sorted out with that situation.

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from at least for everything that I can tell, a

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very successful career. I know it's still very young for him,

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but I would expect him to just continue to go

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on and crush and and started, you know, started exploring

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I guess bigger buyings, high rollers, that sort of thing.

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hundred and sixty five k. You know that really pads

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the bank roll. And I think he has what it

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takes to take take that next step. So so yeah,

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just running out this final table, Jeff mats In third place,

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Marco Johnson fourth place, Kurt Colbert fifth place, Masado Jokasawa

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sixth place, Brock Wilson seventh, and Matt Aflac eighth. What

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do you got thoughts on the main event, sir.

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Speaker 2: It was huge. Yeah, I didn't think it was going

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to get nearly nine hundred entrance. Really yeah, it's you know,

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buying than normal. The satellites, you know, weren't doing that

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great leading up to the series, so I knew it

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was going to break the guarantee. But yeah, nine hundred

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you know, if they're bringing this back next year and

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everything we've kind of heard off the like under the radar,

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is that, of course it's coming back. Will they put

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the move the guarantee up? You know, are they going

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to go to three and a half million? Are they

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going to go to four million? I guess that's the

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first question I have about the main event. But yeah,

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great turnout. Very impressed by everything that's happened this week

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you and I were there every single day,

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so I guess we have some some thoughts, some feedback

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on how things played out. Just quickly in the main events,

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we did have Matthew Wantman finishing in tenth place. David

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my Dog's bark in the background hubsbe main event champion

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Jonathan Tamayo twenty third place, and then last year's champion

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of the NAPT Las Vegas main event, Sammy besha Head.

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defending champ. An APT Las Vegas did have two high rollers.

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K the high roller. That was the one that.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying what they called it, what they titled it

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as I think last year was a five K Yeah,

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and Samuel lasko Its won it. I believe Shannon Shores

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at the final table. I think Jesse Lowns is at

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 1: They they upped their game in the high roller section

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of things, partnered with the PGT as well. Both these

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high rollers were PGT qualifying events. They had a twenty

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five K super high roller and they had a ten thousand,

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three hundred dollars high roller. In the twenty five K.

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Stevens Song topped sixty entries to win almost four hundred

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and forty thousand dollars. This is now officially Song's best

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year ever on the Live Felt in terms of tournament winnings.

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In twenty twenty two he won two million, two hundred

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and eighty two thousand dollars. This year he's up to

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two million, five hundred and thirty two thousand dollars in winnings.

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Also this year, of course, Tim and I talked about

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it at length, you know, during the run, because we

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did daily podcast from the World Series of Poker. But

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Stephen Song got fifty seventh in the twenty twenty fours

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BE Main event for one hundred and sixty K. Then

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he went on to win EPT Barcelona for one point

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twenty nine million euros aka one million, four hundred and

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twenty five thousand dollars. At the twenty five k NAPT

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Las Vegas Super high Roller Final table, it was Song

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up on top. He defeated Sean Winter in heads up play.

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Winter got two hundred and eighty AK. Then it was

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ed Sebesta third place, Jim Collopy fourth place, Elias Gutierrez

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fifth place, Thomas Etcien sixth place, Brock Wilson seventh place,

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mentioning brock Wilson's name again, and then Paul Jagger got

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eighth place there big money one of course, lots of

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PGT points up for grabs in this event. The PGT points,

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of course, as it pertains to a twenty five K

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buy an event on the PGT are point six to

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the dollar. So Tim and I will talk about how

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this implemented her changed up the PGT leaderboard a little

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bit later on. But Stephen Song taking it all down

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four hundred and forty k, tremendous year for him, and

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it continues. Would expect more things, you know, he won,

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he won the WPT Prime.

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Speaker 2: Was it last year?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Two years ago?

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Speaker 2: Two years ago?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would expect he's back in at the

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win in December, so his year probably not done, you know,

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so so yeah. And then over in the ten K

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high Roller, one hundred and seventy entries, hell up, good lord,

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Sam's overall top of the field there to win three

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hundred and eighty five thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars,

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his third PGT win of the season, his ninth PGT

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victory overall in history, his tenth PGT cash this season. Also,

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this win did push him into the top four of

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the leaderboard again. We'll discuss that a little bit more later.

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He defeated Nick Sewart in heads up play. Seward got

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two hundred and forty one K for second place. Sewart

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is enjoyed quite the breakout year on the poker. Felts also,

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you know, taking his career to the next level in

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terms of you know, firing at some high rollers and

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battling there and seeing some success. Barry wood Woods excuse me,

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got third, David Coleman got fourth, Valentine Shall Bennick got fifth,

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Adam Adler sixth, Danny Wong seventh, and Brian Altman took eighth.

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You got any thoughts there? Pretty good turnouts? What do

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you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exceptional turnout. I'm a big believe of that.

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Speaker 1: Exceptionally exceptional.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and seventy exceptional.

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Speaker 1: Well what about the sixty for the twenty five k?

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Is that also exceptional?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's very good too. I think when you have

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these series, and we saw this last yea at NMPT,

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when you have a high roller at the end, you

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get a lot of people playing up, you know, up

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to the buy and because you know they'd be the

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bus of the main event or they've cashed the main event,

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got some extra money, or they just want to try

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and get on stock, so you know, the selling pieces

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taking shots, So you get a lot of plays in

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these events that you would never normally come for a

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high roller series of the same buying price point. So

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you always know that this, like you know, backup schedule

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ten K is always going to be huge and yeah

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shout one hundred and seventy entrants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with you. You know, like if you

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were to draw a parallel to what we do on

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the PGT for example, you know, like say, whoa, why

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don't we get one hundred and seventy entries in our tenks? Well,

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it's just it's just a different series, as Tim pointed out,

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where it takes like kind of one caliber of player,

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one size of bank role to come out to play

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like the entire Poker Masters versus you're coming out to

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play napt Las Vegas. You're gonna fire like the eleven

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hundred dollar run good Open, You're gonna fire the main event.

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You're going to play some of these small assidements, and

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then you're going to take like your one or two

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shots in the ten k, maybe the twenty five k, right,

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So that that's just how it's approached versus if you're

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coming out for again, let's say the poker masters, right,

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there's not like that small stuff to play and then

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you take a shot. So so yeah, I mean, I

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I you know, I love the five K price point,

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and I think it's absolutely positively wide open in the

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US and somebody needs to take it. Maybe that'll be

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the NAPT, maybe it won't, who knows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you say no, I was going to mention about

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the five K price point. You know, we've heard of

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other locations potentially for NAPT in North America. I'm just

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wondering if some of these other locations, like whether it's

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on Ontario, Michigan and Pennsylvania or whatever, can they could

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they sustain a five K price point, because I think

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it too should have wherever the n APT goes, it

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should continue the cadence of a five k main event.

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But can those other markets support that price point, you know,

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even a something close to that guarantee.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, let's let's let's do some sketching here

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where where. So I see two ways for the n

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APT to go. One is the five K price point.

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Speaker 4: You have.

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Speaker 1: Let's say four events a year. I just don't know

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if there's more venue slash locations that you can work

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with that can support a five K. So you do,

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you know, essentially quarterly events right at the five K

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price point, make them like this, I could. I would

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even say that you could probably extend them to be

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like two weeks long as opposed to ten days, so

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cram more stuff in there. So I think that's that's

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kind of like path A that they could go down.

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The other path that I think that they could go

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down is have a lot of nap events, be like

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last year's and then the Las Vegas one is their

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quote unquote Grand Final, which is kind of what you

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did with the EPT years ago, Like all the epts

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were five k's and then you had the Monte Carlo

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Grand Final was the ten k. Right, yeah, so you

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could you could do that. And I mean, listen, I

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love the five K price point, don't get me wrong,

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but I also know that like the the fifteen hundred

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dollars price point, like the regional mid major tour price

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point is freaking booming in the US, like, you know,

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so you could do something where it's like, I don't know,

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five to six of those and more markets can support that,

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and then they all kind of play into this grand

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final event in Las Vegas, the big destination. It closes

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the season, like all that sort of stuff, right, So

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I think that that could could work, and you could

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you could also maybe shift the napt Las Vegas window

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to be closer to December, if not in December, where

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then you draw in everything that's happening in December in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: No, I go the other way. I think it needs

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to be further away from December because we see this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on what I'll say that that's not bad,

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Like it can't. Like I feel like this window is

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kind of weird because it's like maybe some people wait

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to just come back in two three weeks for the

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wind and all that sort of stuff, right, So, like

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I agree with you, it kind of needs to go

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further away or closer like one or the other, like

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the weird middle ground. You know, it's a little weird.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, continue I think it's I think the window

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is fine because of one reason. They now own this window.

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They own the first two weeks of November. They did

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it last year, they did it this year. Nothing has

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stepped on their toes. You know, let's say I'm going

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to organize an event for November next year, Well, I'm

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going to wait or at least, you know, do some

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digging about napt first, because they've kind of planted their

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flag so they can own this window. I think it's

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just enough away from win, you know, basically three weeks

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where people can go home and come back if we

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went if the festival was any longer, then yeah, you

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have these people are going to have these decision points

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that do I want to stay even though it's f one,

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it's going to be expensive. I would honestly say go

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earlier if you're going to move it at all. But

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they've planned the flag. Let them just own this two

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weeks in November. And I do love your idea of

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having more like a feeder. You know, you could go

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to Michigan, Ontario, Pennsylvania at a fifteen hundred price point,

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you could do maybe they can find partnerships in you know,

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Florida or in California, wherever Texas, who knows, and continue

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this kind of like tier two buy in price point,

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but also feeds. You can run extensive satellites, you know,

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like ten C guarantees or ten package guarantees at these stops,

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and you know, you can kind of build the narrative

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towards the Vegas main event, where hey, we've qualified you know,

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thirty forty fifty people from all these stops around the country,

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plus everyone online, plus all these promotions we're doing, et cetera,

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and you can start thinking, wait, we did three million

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dollar prize will guarantee this year, Let's do four million.

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You know, this is our plan to get to four

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million next year. We're going to do five million. Here's

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our plan, and kind of make it. Build it, you know,

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really build a big tour. Because I think a lot

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of people love the stop. They loved how the ballroom looked.

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It's obviously it's I think I think players in general

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want to experience new things. You know, we saw our

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players skip events to go play random stuff in Asia

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and Taiwan and Australia, et cetera, just to do something different.

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And I think this having this in Vegas is different

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to World Series, it's different to win, it's different to

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PGT and players want to experience something slightly different every

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now and then.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think now, after like hearing you talk

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a little bit more on it, and you sit in

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here kind of lean on it a little bit. I

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lean going the essentially sixteen to fifty price point, right,

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I would bang out having an event in Michigan because

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you're there, having an event in Pennsylvania because you're there,

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having an event in New Jersey because you're there. That's three.

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Then you can probably find a few others, you know,

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a few other regions to support that price point, which

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I think is easily doable within the States. You know,

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you can probably go north of the border to Canada

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to and find something there, and then it all kind

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of converges on Las Vegas as that sort of grand

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final event. I would also loop in some sort of

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NABT online series. You know, you can start doing that.

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So so yeah, that's that's probably what I would I

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would target. So yeah, I guess free consultation if they're listening, yeahl.

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Speaker 2: Up, col up, we'll help you because you know, I

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I look, I know we're going to touch on some

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other windows, but I guess while we're on this, I

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think the biggest hole is the scheduling, and I know

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that has a lot you know, they have a lot

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of bit of a European influence on that, and that

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doesn't fit ourn market. You know, Leon has a bit

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of a say too. But with some small tweaks, I

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think that their schedule could be really good. You know,

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we looked at the earlier events. They had a five

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kplow that overlapped everything and that didn't perform that well.

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You can easily shift that early or late. Just some

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small tweaks with the bigger mind stuff could make it

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a really popular series for people to skip a triton,

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you know, or skips like actually make the trip to

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come out and you know, throwing two trips to Vegas

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when you factor in you know, the win in December.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean I took some notes being there.

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You know, I played three events. I was there probably

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six seven days. I don't even know the first note.

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Literally look down hand number one and I'm already like

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somewhat tilted because I peel back the cards and they're

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jumbo index cards and I want to throw them across

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the room. It didn't even bother me once to be

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hop well, then you just must be a senior citizen.

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I probably don't why it doesn't you know, why it

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doesn't bother you because you are the mix you are

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the resident mixed game guy on the podcast. So jumbo

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face cards they are better for mixed games because when

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you're trying to play seven cards, doesn't look across the

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table at your opponent's board, it's easier to see them.

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Can plo, What what are we doing with jumbo face cards.

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Speaker 2: I prefer the normal cards, especially in mixed games. And

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please don't judge me, but you will everyone out there

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because people make more mistakes. And I think that's a

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part of the game. I think that is I think

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that is part of like poker, that you know, not

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not covering cards, but just like if you can't see

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that it's a club or a spade, that's kind of

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on you. And if you make a bad mistake, that's

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your fault.

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Speaker 1: Like blind people all.

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Speaker 2: Good as the guy you're wear glasses right now?

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Speaker 1: I like these are these are blue like blocking.

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Speaker 2: They're not okay actual I like the normal cards, but

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like the jumper, don't bother me anyway here as much

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as you obviously.

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Speaker 1: They're just it's just like you try and peel and

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they're just so big, and.

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Speaker 2: Like peel them. Maybe you're just good appealing.

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Speaker 1: What no I don't. I don't. I like to look

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at my hands in a nice concealed manner. I don't

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want these jumble cards in my face.

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Speaker 2: Like. It's just no, you need to work on your

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appealing That's what I'm gonna say. It's just problem. I

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can do the double cover, the single whatever.

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Speaker 1: And hasn't hasn't do they use? Who do they use?

474
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I think they use Copek because hasn't. Yeah, because they

475
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:42,920
were branded Kopek on the back. It doesn't. I think

476
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Faded Spade came out with like a middle index.

477
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: Not that that's just stupid.

478
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying it. If if they're so

479
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,400
dead set on using the jumbos, we'll go a little

480
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,400
bit smaller. So yeah, anyway, Uh, the chip colors that

481
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,279
they got to fix resorts, I mean, they're just some

482
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:05,799
of them are too close, very close. They certainly well.

483
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Part of the reason why they're close to begin with. Okay,

484
00:26:09,559 --> 00:26:12,279
part of the reason why they look even closer is

485
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,640
because the Poker Star's tables. One, the feld blends in

486
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,079
with a lot of them. Two, the neon light strip

487
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,720
on the tables you can tell which section also like

488
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,759
then affects the colors of the chips to the eye,

489
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:31,720
so it all kind of makes things blend together. Late

490
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:37,400
rich tables were interesting. So I played the eleven hundred

491
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,119
dollars Run Good Open, I played the fifty three hundred

492
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,559
dollars main event, and I played the five to fifty

493
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:43,359
napt Cup. I'm in the eleven hundred dollars main event.

494
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,160
I'm texting with some friends. I was there for hand

495
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,920
number one. They're like, how's the field. I'm like, gret

496
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,880
I don't know anyone at my table. They come our

497
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,960
hour and a half late. They're at a table with

498
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,279
like a lot of known players, much much more difficult tables.

499
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,079
Same thing happened in the main event. Like I show

500
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,240
up for hand number one, there's kind of a section

501
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:03,480
where there's maybe eight to ten tables and it all

502
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,279
looks extremely soft, and then all the late rich people

503
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:11,000
that walked in, it's like, you know, Eric Sidell, this person,

504
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:12,720
that person like, and they all just did it like

505
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,039
the same table and the same table. So it was

506
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:17,559
like pretty clear that if you late REGs you went

507
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,839
to a certain section of the room and sat there. Yes,

508
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:21,880
that's not really good.

509
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,559
Speaker 2: I have a theory on this, but continue, No.

510
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:26,279
Speaker 1: What's your theory. I mean, that's all I gotta say.

511
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:27,039
They need to fix that.

512
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:32,039
Speaker 2: So obviously you may know that it doesn't matter. The

513
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:34,920
way they do the registration for upstairs isn't through Poker

514
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,880
out lists, which is obviously a Results World product for

515
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,200
those that didn't play they use.

516
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,599
Speaker 1: Well that's not true. You go to sign up.

517
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me finish first.

518
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: DESK gets poker atleas then it transfers to.

519
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,079
Speaker 2: K hold Yes, so but K hold them. What I'm

520
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:52,319
saying is that's where you get your allocated your seat.

521
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:56,440
K hold them is a European product. So we're obviously

522
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,160
liking care about late Regin and we're probably looking at

523
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,799
this from a American perspective. Maybe in Europe, this is

524
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:05,519
how it's done and this is how they like it

525
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,599
or prefer it. So they haven't adjusted here when they

526
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:10,920
came here. So I'm not going to put it all

527
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,279
on Results World. I'm wondering if this is just the

528
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:15,880
way the kind of K holder maps built and the

529
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,079
way they are accustomed to doing registration in Europe, because

530
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,960
K hold them is the number one, you know, the

531
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,240
number one kind of product for tournament registration.

532
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm not necessarily trying to put anything

533
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:31,039
on anyone. I'm just saying these are areas for improvement.

534
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: I registered for one event with with Mike Patrick, fellow

535
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,319
poker media member, and we both at the same table,

536
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,160
and like it was with I.

537
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,079
Speaker 1: Mean, like I'm playing in the main event, you just

538
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:43,039
see like three people like I see like Eric's Adel doing,

539
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:44,920
Lindy Tristan Wade walking they all just sit at the

540
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240
same table. Yeah, the next three notables walk in, they

541
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,079
also did the same table. Like it just happened over

542
00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:51,720
and over again. So it's like what you know, I mean,

543
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,160
part of it is like the most important you gradulate, regulate, right,

544
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,319
and like it's it's obviously better to be there on

545
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,319
time if this is what's going to happen, but it

546
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:01,799
should be pretty.

547
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,839
Speaker 2: Equal, right, Yeah, it should be. And you know, I

548
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:09,559
think WSP had a lot of you know, negative comments

549
00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:11,799
about their late registration process a couple of years ago,

550
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:13,839
and they've done a lot to make it a lot

551
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,759
better now. Obviously we do hours a certain way, but

552
00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:19,400
we have the benefit of a smaller kind of playpool

553
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240
and can do whatever we want. But yes, I definitely

554
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,359
agree with you, especially in the five K main event.

555
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,839
All the high role was they need to kind of

556
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480
do a fairer process for the late registration.

557
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: You touched on like some some scheduling sort of stuff.

558
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:37,079
Like the first thing that stuck out to me is

559
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,119
the twenty five K overlapped the main event like start

560
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,960
days entirely, you know, because it ended on that second one.

561
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,200
Because I was, I played, I played, there was the

562
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,400
main e. It had three starting flights over two days.

563
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,960
The first it had one A, then it had one

564
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,960
B and one C on the same day. I played

565
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,759
one B. So on the second day and they were

566
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,680
finishing the twenty five K. So yeah, I wouldn't you

567
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,119
want those players to get in there and blast maximum

568
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,119
entries in the main event. So I thought that was

569
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,319
a little interesting and maybe you maybe you delay that

570
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,799
to the back end. I also, I mean you you

571
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,640
and I know from covering or from doing the PGT

572
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,640
that I mean, you can do a twenty five K

573
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,799
two days. You don't need a three day tournament like

574
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,160
you you know, just you can just do it and

575
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,799
get it over with. So I thought that that was interesting.

576
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,240
Some of the start times caused some congestion at registration,

577
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,759
you know, for example, when I started the main event

578
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,960
on Wednesday, it started at eleven am. I was in

579
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,359
the registration line, and there was also it started at

580
00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:41,599
eleven am a six hundred dollars satellite for the main event.

581
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:44,799
So it's like, you know, there's people registering for both.

582
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,119
You definitely want to get people butts in the seats

583
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,319
for the main event, so maybe don't schedule that as time.

584
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:54,440
And then the on Friday. Was it Friday when they

585
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,319
had the napt Cup the first day? Yeah? Yeah, they

586
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:00,599
had four flights for the napt Cup, one A and

587
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,799
one B around Friday, one C and one D were

588
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,799
on Saturday. On Friday, they had one A started at

589
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:10,880
eleven or twelve, I can't remember exactly, but then at

590
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,920
at two or two thirty they started an eleven hundred

591
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,039
dollars tournament, and then at five or six they started

592
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,000
the second flight of the five fifty. I don't really

593
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:22,960
understand that, especially when the five point fifty has a

594
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,160
three hundr k guarantee on it, It's like you want

595
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640
to drive everyone into that to hit that one. So

596
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,599
so yeah, another this is a weird one that I

597
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:34,759
wrote down, and it happened every single day that I played,

598
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:39,480
but people asked for drinks like alcohol. The bar didn't

599
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,240
open till four o'clock, which is extremely weird. I mean,

600
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,039
we're not in Utah, We're in Vegas. Okay, We're not

601
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,599
at church. We're playing a poker tournament in a casino, Okay.

602
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,079
So you know, there was a bunch of times when

603
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,000
people were like, hey, can I get a beer or whatever,

604
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:55,640
and they were just like, yeah, well the bar isn't

605
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:56,440
open till four.

606
00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

607
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little weird. Dealers and staff

608
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,079
are incredible. I didn't have a single dealer that I

609
00:32:05,079 --> 00:32:08,119
even thought was like questionable. A lot of them were

610
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:11,640
like the best WSP dealers is like what you saw,

611
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,559
which is you know, having been on the ept A lot,

612
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,160
you know like those are some of the best dealers

613
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,000
in the world, if not the best dealers in the world.

614
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,079
And that very much translated here. You know, they got

615
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:26,440
the best dealers, They had very good floor staff. The

616
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,599
room it was a different conference room this year, much bigger.

617
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,920
It was tremendous. I mean you walk in, it's like, Wow,

618
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,440
the branding is the best branding I've seen at a

619
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,119
poker tournament in Las Vegas ever. Hands down. I mean,

620
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,319
there's nothing that beats it. The only thing that I

621
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,480
think would could rival it, and this is going to

622
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:49,440
sound like a home or take, is probably the Poker

623
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Gro Studio. But that's because you know, it's smaller, it's

624
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,559
more confined. We can control it a little bit more

625
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,440
versus them doing this massive, you know, thirty forty thousand

626
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,759
square foot conference. I mean, it was awesome. The only

627
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:05,440
thing that I would change about the conference room itself

628
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,519
is the back part of the conference room had this

629
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:13,960
sort of crescent shaped window that spanned the entire thing.

630
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:16,599
And you know, obviously because of the I think because

631
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:20,319
of the TV filming that was happening, they had to

632
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,519
keep the drapes on it and not have the windows open.

633
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:25,519
But I just kept thinking in my head, like this

634
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:27,880
is kind of giving me Monte Carlo vibes because they

635
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,319
have massive windows. Sometimes they open the roof in Monte

636
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,119
Carlo to start the day, and there was a sweet

637
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,039
balcony out there that that over that you could see out,

638
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,200
like you could see the wind Venetian like other parts

639
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,960
of the strip, Like it had a really good view.

640
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,599
So like I would like to see them utilize that

641
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:45,599
a little bit more so maybe keep that open, maybe

642
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:47,559
even you know, put some high top tables out there

643
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,440
and people can go outside. Like I thought that would

644
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,079
have been really cool to utilize that space as well.

645
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:57,039
But the room was was nuts, like the whole Like

646
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,000
every time I go to the Resorts World and I

647
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:00,920
probably said this last here, but like I feel like

648
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,799
it just doesn't get the love that it deserves. It's

649
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,320
so freaking nice, and it's it's on the strip, but

650
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,320
it's off the strip. You know, We're like you don't

651
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,159
have to go into the heart of the strip and

652
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,079
like deal with all that sort of stuff. Like in

653
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:15,760
a lot of ways, I was thinking I was walking

654
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,840
through there, and I was like, this fucking conference space

655
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,039
is first of all, it's incredible, Like even in the

656
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,800
hallways of the conference space, like they have like four

657
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,920
K digital led walls like promoting stuff and like and

658
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,679
that that wasn't like that's not the Poker Stars thing,

659
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,960
like that's just on in the building of resorts.

660
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:30,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

661
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: Right.

662
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say there quickly is just

663
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,840
I would put a tournament clock in the hallways for breaks,

664
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,400
because all the tournament clocks were in the tournament room.

665
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,119
But I would put something outside that you know, yeah, sure, yeah,

666
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,239
sure no. But I was thinking, like as I'm walking

667
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,960
through there and like I would do long walks on

668
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:53,159
break and whatever, and I'm like, these guys should have

669
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,960
bought the WSP, I mean, you know, and brought it there.

670
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,039
I mean because then you like you're away from the

671
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,719
strip and like enough that like it's not that big congestion,

672
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,480
like you could have brought a lot of business there,

673
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:07,920
Like I thought that would have been pretty cool. But anyway, Yeah,

674
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,079
the Resorts World, I think is awesome. A lot of

675
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,400
good food options there, It's quick, it's easy to get

676
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,840
in and out of. You know, they do the free

677
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,159
parking if you have your your player's card and all

678
00:35:17,199 --> 00:35:19,159
that sort of stuff. So I got a lot of

679
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,960
European Poker Tour vibes. Obviously they have a lot of

680
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:27,440
EPT going through the Blood with with a lot of

681
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,840
those people coming over and having hands on the NAPT product.

682
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,840
But but yeah, I mean it looked it looked great

683
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,199
last year. It looked even better this year, which I

684
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,519
feel like is hard to achieve, you know, when you

685
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:41,199
when you set the bar so high to start. So

686
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:46,599
kudos to Poker Stars, the NAPT and resorts worlds for

687
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:48,880
all of that, and yeah, I hope it comes back

688
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:53,199
next year. I would probably make it two weeks long,

689
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:59,280
you know, a little bit longer, and I wouldn't be

690
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,119
starting the main and on a Tuesday, just me. I mean,

691
00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:04,800
that's you know how I feel about You know how

692
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,199
I feel about that you start if you have two

693
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,599
starting flights Friday Saturday, if you have three Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

694
00:36:10,599 --> 00:36:11,840
You know how I feel about this?

695
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, but I feel like that's it.

696
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,039
Speaker 1: That's a European thing, like it just doesn't matter. You

697
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:19,719
just start whenever.

698
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. So my comments, Uh, you

699
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,800
don't need three days for a hirollap but I think

700
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,519
that's a very much a pocus I was thing. So

701
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,519
that's fine. I just you need to shift that twenty

702
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,280
five k for this year. You could have started it Friday,

703
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,400
Saturday Sunday. Now I know they don't want to play Sunday,

704
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,920
but it's a final table, so it's fine.

705
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,519
Speaker 1: You could also do like two and a half days,

706
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,840
like start the high Roller, like six pm, play till

707
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,679
ten pm on day one, like something like that. Like

708
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:53,119
I'm saying, if they want longer play, then three days, Like,

709
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,760
that's probably how you would do it, where but still

710
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,119
have the thing where like people don't need to show

711
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:58,599
up to day two if they don't want to, like,

712
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,760
you know, all that sort of.

713
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: Would If let's say we keep the Tuesday main event

714
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,800
day just for this example, I would have done Friday, Saturday,

715
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,199
Sunday for the twenty five k. Right, you can still

716
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,599
run the five fifty mystery bountie. It's a completely different

717
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,719
player field. On the Monday Tuesday, you could do your

718
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,719
five k plo right instead of doing it on the

719
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,719
Tuesday where it overlaps a bunch of other stuff. Yeah,

720
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,719
it's very obvious that, you know.

721
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me tell you guys that I

722
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,840
would say that they would probably move to three day

723
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,079
ones for the main event last year on separate days

724
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:34,480
and not do that last one. That's kind of a

725
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:35,639
quote unquote turba flight.

726
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be in mind when you're Yeah,

727
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:40,119
they're going to be pigeonholed to the like. Look how

728
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:43,320
they started. They started November. It's like they didn't want

729
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,239
to start on October thirtieth. They wanted to start November first.

730
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,599
So if we look at this, if we look at

731
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,199
November calendar next year. November first is a Saturday, so

732
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,960
and that does that mean they're going to end on

733
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:56,039
Sunday the ninth, So series is going to be essentially

734
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,199
a day shorter or are they going to go into

735
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,760
that second week? Are they going to out a little later?

736
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,199
Speaker 1: So no, go for two weeks.

737
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess also we have to ask when

738
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,920
F one is. But yeah, you can have some manipulation.

739
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,719
I agree with you with the main event stuff. At

740
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,800
a five K price point, it's not that huge having

741
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,800
to start on weekends, but it's always going to help.

742
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,440
Obviously you're gonna have to figure out filming and how

743
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,280
they want to kind of schedule that and go kind

744
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,079
of work you know how we always talk we schedule

745
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:25,119
the main and work backwards. So schedule the five K

746
00:38:25,199 --> 00:38:27,679
main schedule the big game stuff, and then start filling

747
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:32,119
in the gaps. Like I think some of their events

748
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:32,559
were great.

749
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: Let me November twentieth through twenty second. Is F one

750
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:37,000
next year?

751
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: Okay? So then go definitely go into that second week

752
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,840
into that third week of November.

753
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: I like this year, by the way, that it wasn't

754
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,920
as close to f it was last year.

755
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, five fifty napt Cup was a success.

756
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,760
The one k run good was success, mister BOWNI great,

757
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,239
But like you said, they had a five to fifty,

758
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,400
they also had a one k. That's the same player pool.

759
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,559
I think two hundred and fifty and three hundred and

760
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:05,400
sixty dollars unlimited entry, nine time events. Some of those

761
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:07,079
I think they need to fix. Like, you don't need

762
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:10,480
to overlap. I'm not sure you really need those three.

763
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: Sixty seven events running. I felt like eight events run

764
00:39:13,519 --> 00:39:14,360
just non stop.

765
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot, but I think the schedule was

766
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:21,679
better this year. But there's definitely a lot of work

767
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:25,280
that can be done to make it like a perfect schedule.

768
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,119
And if you make it a perfect schedule, you're going

769
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:30,639
to have more people coming. Like, there's a lot of

770
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:32,599
people that didn't come that you would normally play these

771
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,679
type of events. So a little couple of tweaks, maybe

772
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,480
hire me and I'll help you.

773
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, overall, really really good stop. You know,

774
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,880
a lot of momentum from year one to year two

775
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,159
that was gained, and I would love for them to

776
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:51,199
just carry that momentum over you know, I don't really

777
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,440
think they need to do anything with the guarantee.

778
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I would just go up to three and

779
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,639
a half. Very subtle change.

780
00:39:58,679 --> 00:39:59,519
Speaker 1: Does that even matter?

781
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: I think it looks I think it looks good.

782
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,119
Speaker 1: Like when you look at that as if you go

783
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:04,000
three to five.

784
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: No, I think I think any any forward step is

785
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,519
a good step. Don't do WPT and like run a

786
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,440
marathon just one step thirty, you don't do that, just

787
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:16,880
three to four. They could go to four.

788
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: It's not that WPT ran a marathon. It's that they

789
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,039
tried to run a marathon as Usain Bolt, like, yeah,

790
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:24,639
that's what they do.

791
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. They could go

792
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,400
to four million, as long as you're going to tell

793
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,559
me that, hey, we're going to put as many people

794
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,599
in or give away as many of those what are

795
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:36,320
they called gold passes.

796
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: Old passes of which they qualified one hundred and fifteen

797
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,039
gold pass winner. Shout up Pete Johnson, the Pokerg go

798
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:46,960
Ano subscriber who won his. I would say you can.

799
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,840
I would say you can confidently go to five million

800
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,480
if if if you have to, I would say you

801
00:40:54,559 --> 00:40:56,320
have to get the gold pass number up to two

802
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,639
hundred to two fifty and then I would also like

803
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,519
to resets. Yeah, and then I would also like to

804
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:05,679
see that paired with the like the introduction of like

805
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,280
doing like those regional stops, like making it more of

806
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,920
a tour, right, and then.

807
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:13,199
Speaker 2: I think that's season four. I think that's going to

808
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:15,320
happen next year. But two hundred. If you want to

809
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,400
go to five million, you need two hundred go passes.

810
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,280
If you want to go to four million, I think

811
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,400
you can do it with one hundred again, like at

812
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,920
least the one fifteen, but just be just make a

813
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,400
better schedule, really make it attractive for people to come

814
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,400
instead of like going to a WSP circuit or just

815
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,519
saying I'll wait till the win. You know, you have

816
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,559
to make it like I can't misstop and that.

817
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: The counterpoint to that would be that they did because

818
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,360
there was a lot of like European players that came

819
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,119
over to play this.

820
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking more about the Americans, Like I'm looking

821
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,280
at people's socials and saying that they're not here or

822
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,480
like choosing to play other events, et cetera. And it's

823
00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:00,159
like we need them to play. You know, if you

824
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:03,320
want to go to four million, don't go to five please,

825
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,000
don't go to five.

826
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean five is plenty safe for me.

827
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: Oh it might be safe, but it's like it's a

828
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,760
let's just let's just build it. Baby steps that is

829
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,760
that is no baby step is four million? Five million

830
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,719
is too big of a step. You like jumping over

831
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,760
a puddle that's like three ft. It's like, oh, well,

832
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,840
I will I cross or not?

833
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Five million is easy but easy. They ain't gonna be

834
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,840
five million. They'll get five point eight in the prize.

835
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,480
Bol no sweat.

836
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: Sure they can do ten million. As long as you

837
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,000
tell me how many gold pass.

838
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: That's where that's where, that's where you make the mistake.

839
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,119
The WPT you're three to ten questionable.

840
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,199
Speaker 2: Of course I think three to five is questionable. My

841
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,400
point is you're going to tell me how many three

842
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,800
I need to know how many gold pass winners they're

843
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,840
going to do. That's the important part that that attracts

844
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,920
the people to come. So you need to give me

845
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,960
a gold pass on like you've gotta have to promise

846
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,559
me x gold pass winners and then you can choose

847
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:00,400
the guarantee on that.

848
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: I always wondered why stops like this for example, you

849
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,440
know other stops like the wind can do it in December,

850
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:11,239
et cetera, Like they don't run satellites for the next

851
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:11,920
year's event.

852
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: I actually asked them this and they said, may.

853
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,079
Speaker 1: Just having it like that could be part of it.

854
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: May because players don't really want to sit on like

855
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:24,239
five k inequity for a whole yea, I would.

856
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: I would say the players that are concerned with that

857
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,360
are not the players that you're worried about. But like

858
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:34,079
sure random gold pass winner that's there that won't be

859
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:35,639
there again that maybe he.

860
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean during the series. Yeah, like, oh, I thought

861
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,440
you meant like throughout the year at results. Well, no,

862
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,360
I think that's a good idea. I think the last day.

863
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:47,159
I think Sunday could be like a ten a ten million,

864
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,000
not a ten million, and like a ten seat or

865
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:55,320
ten package kind of guarantee for next year, you know,

866
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,519
with the caveat that, like if it doesn't run, you

867
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:58,639
get a refund kind of thing.

868
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: Quickly hitting on some other winners from napt Las Vegas,

869
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,159
Richard Bye won the eleven hundred dollars run Good Open

870
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,679
for sixty eight thousand, five hundred and thirty dollars. This

871
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,920
was a three way ICM chop when they got down

872
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,760
to three handed play. Four hundred and eighty entries in

873
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,840
this one. The event had a four hundred thousand dollars guarantee.

874
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,840
It topped that four hundred and sixty k in the

875
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,760
prize pool. Our good friend Ben Ludlow took fifth place

876
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,400
for just under twenty four thousand dollars in the twenty

877
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,440
two hundred dollars Nolam that hold him deep Stack. This

878
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,760
had a pretty good turnout, two hundred and twenty four entries,

879
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,159
four hundred and ten thousand dollars in the prize will

880
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:39,920
Alexandro Trick Courico won at all I probably butchered that

881
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,760
last name. Sorry, Alexandro. Eighty six thousand, eight hundred dollars

882
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,159
for him for winning that one. And then we had

883
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:50,760
the NAPT Cup. Ares Klein won it for fifty seven

884
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,599
two hundred and seventy dollars, also a three way chop

885
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:57,039
here three hundred thousand dollars guaranteed. In this five hundred

886
00:44:57,039 --> 00:45:00,039
and fifty dollars buy an event with one thousand and

887
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:04,000
six entries, four hundred and eighty four thousand dollars in

888
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:06,639
the prize school I was two of those entries. Tim

889
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,599
was one. Tim cashed. I did not. Tim got eighty

890
00:45:09,639 --> 00:45:12,840
first for twelve one hundred dollars. Way to go, sir,

891
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,239
Thank you, There to go. Just incredible stuff. It helps

892
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,840
when you just make the nuts right out of the gate.

893
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: And it was, yeah, it was. I literally played five

894
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,039
hands in one and the half days of program. Well

895
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,000
like not even lying.

896
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: It was very much on brand for you. Yeah, on brand.

897
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,039
Speaker 2: You know.

898
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna give you some shit, by the way,

899
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:33,360
but I can't. You're the resident mixed game guy on

900
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,119
this podcast. That's why I was pushing you so much

901
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:38,239
to play some of these mixed game tournaments.

902
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,599
Speaker 2: I hate him. Now I'm done. I'm retiring.

903
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,679
Speaker 1: Well, then that means you're retiring your brand. Your image

904
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,039
is the mix game guy, You're just one.

905
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:50,599
Speaker 2: I got a new image. It's cowboy cowboy. Well, that's

906
00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:52,679
just these mixed game tournaments. I love playing him, I

907
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,679
love playing mix I think I'm okay. The problem is

908
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,920
like that, like even in the five what did I

909
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,559
play the five fifty whole or Heroes, you know, it

910
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:07,039
has like eighty ninety players, like they just they just

911
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:09,719
don't get enough, Like the prize was not big enough.

912
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,079
Like come World Series. You can play a fifteen hundred

913
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:12,719
horse or something.

914
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: That's fine, it's the World Series. What are you expect?

915
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,039
Speaker 2: No, it's not that. It's just like, if I'm going

916
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,719
to spend five to fifty on an eighty player tournament,

917
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,039
I would rather spend five to fifty or essentially two bullets,

918
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,280
because I was always going to play the Cup. I

919
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,920
have two bullets to play a thousand player tournament where

920
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,719
I can win eighty K instead of winning potentially five K.

921
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the way. I just not your brand.

922
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm changing my brand. We're having a rebrand, a rebirth.

923
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: Life crisis, the whole rebranding. I get it. So the

924
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,440
hell with mixed games. All the mixed game people out

925
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,480
there who believe Tim is their their champion, he is

926
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,559
no longer your champion. He is stepping down. It's coming

927
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:53,079
over to the big bet streets. Okay, that's what he's doing.

928
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: I will always champion for mixed games. I just will

929
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,199
not be attending. I'm the resident in and then not

930
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,360
a ten. I am the best no limit hold him player.

931
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: On this podcast, you were telling me some of your hands.

932
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,119
Speaker 2: So that's I'm saying, Look, hey, I cashed an napt

933
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,800
you didn't so therefore I am the current.

934
00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: Because I play like an idiot. Okay, I mean I

935
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,840
don't play like an idiot, but I actually I want

936
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,480
to talk about the main event because it was very

937
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,960
weird for me. So the table to start was tremendous.

938
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,920
I mean, I had one good player at my table,

939
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:35,079
Mike Leang. Other than that, like a bunch of qualifiers,

940
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,119
one guy said. One guy sat down and asked, and

941
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:41,039
he was I mean, he was one thousand percent dead series.

942
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:43,239
First of all, he raised to twenty five hundred on

943
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,920
the first hand because because the chip colors were like

944
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:52,400
messing with him. Then he asks is he's He said

945
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,800
something along lines of like, so when do when do

946
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,719
we win the DUBSTB main event seat huh? It made

947
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:03,119
no sense when he was asking, but he was so

948
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,920
like genuine about it. He's like, oh, somebody was like,

949
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,320
oh no, you don't like this is the napt He's like, oh,

950
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,599
I thought, I thought this is like to get into

951
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:12,599
the main event, to earth to the WSP main Event.

952
00:48:12,639 --> 00:48:15,679
We were like, what are you what? No, okay, anyway,

953
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:20,199
but everything was fine at my table, you know, I

954
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,159
was playing my normal game. Then Dan Moran gets moved

955
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:27,480
there and he's just he's just like like I talked

956
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,320
about Nick Marchington earlier, just a young British kid. He

957
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,719
just absolutely gets after it in every single pot. So

958
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,000
goddamn frustrating to have this kid at your table I

959
00:48:35,039 --> 00:48:37,320
played with, I played with both of both these players.

960
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,320
Got moved to my table on the WPT ten k

961
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,480
at the win last year late on day one, and

962
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:44,280
it was just a headache. You're just handcuffed all the

963
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,400
time trying to play with these guys. I mean, yeah,

964
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,159
you can battle with them, but it's like do you

965
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,719
really want to do that on a day one? And

966
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,159
you know, so I just always felt like Dan was

967
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:57,840
like just trying to get the better of me, like

968
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,519
no matter what, and like, you know, willing to go

969
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:02,199
and see it any pots, which is fine, you know,

970
00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:04,199
don't get me wrong, but it just when he's two

971
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:05,320
to your left, it just puts you in a lot

972
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,920
of tough spots. Anyway, At one point I had the

973
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,320
levels on day ROMs for sixty minutes we come back

974
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,599
from break. I played this stretch, a two hour stretch

975
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,920
when I probably v pipped eighty five percent. Every fucking

976
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,679
hand that I was dealt was like Jack ten or better.

977
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,559
It was Jack ten to queens. I never had kings

978
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:29,119
or aces in this stretch, but it was seriously one.

979
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,599
At one point, I raised seven hands in a row

980
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,719
and I was like, these guys are gonna think I'm

981
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,039
full of shit. And I just kept looking down at

982
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,760
like Ace Queen. I was like what, like what this

983
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,760
is out of control? Like what I can't like I remember,

984
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,480
I think it was like the fourth or fifth hand.

985
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:47,199
I look down and I see King jack off and

986
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,719
I think I was in the hijack, and I was like,

987
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:54,400
I should just fold because my image right now it's

988
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,880
like the crazy guy and I'm raising every hand and

989
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,199
like I think two maybe three of the hand I

990
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:03,679
three bet on, Like I was just constantly playing, and

991
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:05,920
it's not that I was winning every hand. My my

992
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,639
chipstack looked like a freaking heart rate monitor because like

993
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:10,880
I would win the hands post flop, like I was like,

994
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,039
there was a lot of people entering the pots against me, yes,

995
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,119
you know, and then it would just depend on what

996
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:16,800
happened post flop and you go from there and like

997
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,760
some hands I would win, some I would lose and whatever.

998
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,440
So you know, but I think they they thought that

999
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,679
I was just fucking crazy. Then I go on break

1000
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,800
and I come back and I don't think I played.

1001
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,800
I don't think I entered. Sorry, I did enter one

1002
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,519
pot for the next like three hours, and I opened

1003
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,880
as jack off and got three bet big and folded

1004
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:38,079
and that like that was it. So it was like

1005
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:40,280
very weird that like all of my hands that I

1006
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480
was getting dealt were condensed into this one two hour

1007
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,480
window and then after that I didn't have anything. It

1008
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:47,199
was like I was getting dealt out at the table.

1009
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,440
So it's just a very weird situation.

1010
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,559
Speaker 2: I had one stretch like that where yeah, and our

1011
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:55,960
friend Yohan came over to like talk to me, and

1012
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,280
I played like six hands in a row and he's like,

1013
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,360
I've done think I've ever seen you v pip that much?

1014
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:02,199
And you laugh. I got I haven't.

1015
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:05,519
Speaker 1: I remember. I raised like it was like maybe like

1016
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:07,559
the six or seventh hand of this like one stretch

1017
00:51:07,559 --> 00:51:08,960
when I raised every hand in a row and I

1018
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,239
looked down and I saw jack ten suited and I

1019
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,519
literally like just shook my head and then threw in

1020
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,400
the rays like I shook my head, like these guys

1021
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:18,960
are just not gonna fucking believe that I have a

1022
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,159
hand again, like you know, and I almost wanted to

1023
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,440
be like I have it every fucking time, Like I

1024
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,039
don't know what you want me to say. It's just ridiculous.

1025
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Jack tenns in a hand just if.

1026
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: Jack ten suited at a six handed table. We were

1027
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,920
six handed during this whole stretch. Well, they play eight handed,

1028
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,199
which is tremendous. Yeah, love it, But we were six

1029
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,119
handed for like this entire two hour stretch. So you know,

1030
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:43,599
you just have to just get in there and get

1031
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:44,199
after it, like.

1032
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 2: Can I I'm need to make one comment about this

1033
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,119
eight handed play. Do I feel like the cup holders

1034
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:51,320
are in the wrong spot? Because all of these tables

1035
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,920
have in built like cup holders you swing for those

1036
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,880
way they they're under the table, we kind of swinging.

1037
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,679
I feel like they're in the wrong spot. Do you

1038
00:51:57,679 --> 00:51:58,239
feel the same.

1039
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably are. I mean I don't use.

1040
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 2: Them, so I used them a few times.

1041
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,679
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not only times to pull it

1042
00:52:03,679 --> 00:52:06,880
out for my like the charger that's in them. Yeah,

1043
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,480
I mean the tables are great. Don't get that, but yeah,

1044
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:14,800
I agree, they're probably Do they have only eight underneath

1045
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,079
or do.

1046
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,639
Speaker 2: They have like nine they have they have eight, but

1047
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,239
it's like yesterday I was in the my first I

1048
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,199
was in the eighth seat and I felt like it

1049
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,079
was in such an awkward position where I had to.

1050
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: See it's in a weird spot. I was in the

1051
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,000
eight sees as well.

1052
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even some of the other seats, I was like,

1053
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,880
it's not it doesn't feel.

1054
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,599
Speaker 1: The other seats. It makes it seem like is this

1055
00:52:33,679 --> 00:52:34,559
my cup holder? Is this?

1056
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:36,039
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, I move it.

1057
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:38,039
Speaker 1: I have to like ask you to move your stomach

1058
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,800
because I might hit you, like you know.

1059
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:40,679
Speaker 2: So, yeah that's what.

1060
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,159
Speaker 1: But uh but yeah. Also the structure of the main

1061
00:52:44,199 --> 00:52:48,400
event was almost too good. I mean, you play the

1062
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,400
last level on day one, you play the same level

1063
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,679
back to back, so it's essentially a two hour level.

1064
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: Then the cop as well though yeah.

1065
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then well in the in the eleven hard

1066
00:52:59,159 --> 00:53:01,679
all run good. I mean you played I think you

1067
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:04,920
play five hundred on thousand or maybe it's six twelve

1068
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,519
one K fifteen hundred, but you play two levels back

1069
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:11,039
to back, so essentially two levels across you know whatever,

1070
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:13,920
two hours or whatever the heck it was. But they

1071
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,880
almost seem too good.

1072
00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 2: You know, you need a bus. You need to bust

1073
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,400
some people so they re enter.

1074
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, for sure, especially in the main event.

1075
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,360
I thought it was weird because you play that last

1076
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,119
blind level as essentially a two hour level, and then

1077
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:31,440
you essentially revert to ninety minute levels for the next day.

1078
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,119
Ye So don't you want people firing in that last

1079
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:36,079
level to then because you could re enter until the

1080
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,280
start of day two exactly, So that I feel like

1081
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,360
there you would you would definitely just want to just

1082
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:43,039
just go from one to the other. And plus you're

1083
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:45,000
already playing sixty minute levels. I mean, it's it's a

1084
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,800
good it's a good structure as is. You know, you know,

1085
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,719
this doesn't have to draw out for for a week,

1086
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,039
all right. Keeping it in the Poker Stars family. Some

1087
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:56,960
more news came out of their camp in that they

1088
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:03,000
signed Jason Kuhn and Caitlin Komeski as Poker Stars Ambassadors.

1089
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:07,920
So Jason Kuhn is what the high roller of high rollers.

1090
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:11,920
I saw him walk in for the twenty five K

1091
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,400
and I was like, what are you doing here? Aren't

1092
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,239
you a triton thing? He's like, no, I'm still a Triton.

1093
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,880
But there's some news coming all the whole. Couple days later, boom,

1094
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,360
the little press event is held and Jason Kuhn gets

1095
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:30,239
announced as the newest Poker Stars Ambassador. I mean, I

1096
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,280
mean Kuhn needs you know, little instruction. He's got almost

1097
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,360
sixty million dollars in live tournamentarans plays the absolute biggest

1098
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,199
events in the world. Biggest tournament's also biggest cash games.

1099
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:42,920
He's been on High Sakes Poker, he was on they

1100
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:44,840
did some filming of the Big Game on tour. He

1101
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,280
was in one of the lineups there, stuck around to

1102
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,920
do some of that stuff, and then he jetted off

1103
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,079
to Trenton, where he is right now. And then Caitlyn Kameski,

1104
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,760
you know, she's in I would I would classify her

1105
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:01,639
as up and coming player, but also very much in

1106
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,159
the content creator space. So she won a Global Porker Award.

1107
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,039
Was it a year or two ago? I can't remember it. Yeah,

1108
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,159
her best short form content Creator. It was in twenty

1109
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:19,440
twenty three. So she joins the team as well. I

1110
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,079
love Caitlin stuff. I think she's super funny. When she

1111
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:25,000
puts out those those short short form pieces of content,

1112
00:55:25,039 --> 00:55:27,760
mostly video on social media, I think they're a freaking

1113
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,400
riot I've played with her a bunch. She's an absolutely

1114
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,320
riot at the table as well, so good on her

1115
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:36,320
for being able to, you know, I guess, leverage the

1116
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,559
content into in ambassadorship with Poker Stars, and I'm excited

1117
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:44,480
for things to come from her in that regard. I'm

1118
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:46,440
pretty sure I know what we're getting from Kuon. You know,

1119
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,719
not to downplay that signing, but yeah, Koon of course

1120
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,519
was recently with or I don't know how recently, but

1121
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:57,599
Gigi Poker left them, has maintained his spot with Triton,

1122
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:00,920
which he still has, and now he joins Poker Stars

1123
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,119
and then Kaitlyn Kameski also on board. Do you have

1124
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:03,840
any thoughts or.

1125
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,039
Speaker 2: I was very surprised by both names, to be honest,

1126
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,920
it looks like, you know, Stars is you know, making

1127
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,639
a shift here in North America, and you know, you

1128
00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:17,519
want to player that's well respected plays high roller events

1129
00:56:17,519 --> 00:56:20,199
going to be a great ambassador at Jason Kuhn's top

1130
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,719
of that list. You know, if they're all in on

1131
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,320
content creation, that pool of content creators is pretty small.

1132
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,960
But Kaitlin's one of the you know, the one of

1133
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,679
the top ones there. So no, I think it's two

1134
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,079
great signings. I just will see, let's see what they're

1135
00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:38,599
kind of haveing have planned for them over the next

1136
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,880
year leading up to the next napt All.

1137
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: Right, here's Tim talking with Jason Kuhn about joining Team

1138
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:46,679
Poker Stars.

1139
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,119
Speaker 2: Jason, congratulations announced today part of Poker Stars. You've been

1140
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,679
part of other companies before. What separates Poker Stars from

1141
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,559
from everyone else?

1142
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 3: Well, the presence here is pretty amazing. Them making an

1143
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,039
effort to have more with American poker tours really exciting.

1144
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:05,159
As an American poker player, like I was saying, you know,

1145
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:07,320
fresh out of college, coming to Vegas my first couple

1146
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:08,320
of poker trips.

1147
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: And and.

1148
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,559
Speaker 3: Going into stops where you could play on the same

1149
00:57:13,679 --> 00:57:16,519
online poker site that sponsored the live live event was

1150
00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:18,239
really cool. It gave you ways to satellite in and

1151
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,599
gave you opportunities to play tournaments, you know, mainly being

1152
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,800
a startup or a starting online poker player like that

1153
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,440
was your only way to get into the big buying tournaments. None,

1154
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:28,440
none of us had the bank rolls.

1155
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: Did you show up and play a five K Maine?

1156
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,039
Speaker 3: So I really love seeing the synergy start to happen again,

1157
00:57:33,079 --> 00:57:34,880
and and it gives me a hope for young American

1158
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,239
poker players, Like it's kind of been the dark ages

1159
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,480
here for you know, if you look around at the

1160
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:42,119
high stakes, almost never do you see a young kid

1161
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:44,639
break through and start playing high stakes that's an American.

1162
00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very very rare.

1163
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: Once in a while you'll see it.

1164
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:49,039
Speaker 3: So it gives me a hope to see, you know,

1165
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:53,480
maybe there'll be a new generation of prodigies coming out

1166
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:53,800
of here.

1167
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: So that's really exciting. Obviously, being Vegas, we didn't have

1168
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,199
the luxury of playing on Poker Stars right now. Concerned

1169
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,199
one day, Yeah, does this punish it with Stars for

1170
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,199
you now? I mean maybe someone traveling to play exclusively

1171
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:06,119
online poker.

1172
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you know I have I really hope,

1173
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,119
just from an American standpoint, that I can get the

1174
00:58:14,199 --> 00:58:17,440
a loud voice for to expand, help Stars expand in

1175
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,360
America and help grow our our market share here. But

1176
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:24,960
of course I'm gonna be playing in Stars whenever I'm

1177
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,840
in Europe playing live tournaments, I plan on playing a

1178
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,280
couple of BT's a year, and on top of that,

1179
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,639
I still will be representing Triton, So when I'm in Triton's,

1180
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:35,039
I'll be playing on Poker Stars. There's gonna be a

1181
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:36,480
lot of ways for me to play online poker again,

1182
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:37,480
which is really exciting.

1183
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of China, one of the most beautiful setups, you know,

1184
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:45,480
that's what the n ninefold incredible production value. I think

1185
00:58:45,519 --> 00:58:47,519
what we've got here at Results World right now is

1186
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:49,320
pretty It's pretty close.

1187
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: It's insane. That's set is ridiculous, all led. They can

1188
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:57,199
just make it whatever they want in seconds. They just

1189
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:58,679
give me a tour from behind the scenes.

1190
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: Is a major production.

1191
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:00,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1192
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,159
Speaker 2: The fact that they ship all this stuff here is insane.

1193
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's the production value of Stars has always

1194
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,239
been that way. You know, if you go to I

1195
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,119
remember playing like EPT Dovil in the middle of France

1196
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:13,400
or just early epts, and that was the one thing

1197
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,840
that stood out, was like you felt special walking into

1198
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,559
an EPT or a Stars event.

1199
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:20,239
Speaker 2: They really go all out. I've never been to an

1200
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,400
APT but I hear a lot of people tell me

1201
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,559
that when you step into this ballroom, it feels like

1202
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:26,079
you're out an APT T the same way.

1203
00:59:26,159 --> 00:59:28,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, It's it's that same thing. It just feels

1204
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,599
really high end. The players are looked after, people are excited.

1205
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:34,719
There's a buzz in the room. You know, they just

1206
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,000
do a really good job staging this stuff. Running these

1207
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:40,280
events has to be ridiculously complicated, and they always bring

1208
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,480
such a high quality to the events.

1209
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:47,119
Speaker 1: So it's awesome, it's exciting. All right. That was Jason Kuhn.

1210
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,960
I mean, listen, I've said this to many of people.

1211
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:53,519
I'll say it again. Jason Kuhn is one of the

1212
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:57,079
most down to earth nicest people in poker. Love the guy.

1213
00:59:57,159 --> 00:59:59,199
Even though he recently handed me a fifty dollars bill,

1214
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,159
God knows. I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous that he

1215
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:08,360
did that. But yeah, great, great guy, great stuff. And

1216
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,599
he also said, I mean, like I was. I was, like,

1217
01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:14,039
you know, I watched all the I wasn't there for

1218
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:15,880
the precedent you were, but I watched a lot of

1219
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,119
the interviews and stuff that came out of it. Basically,

1220
01:00:18,159 --> 01:00:20,480
how he's talking about next next summer at the w SB,

1221
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:26,039
He's coming hard. Yeah, So does that mean we should

1222
01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:29,639
draft him in fantasy? Selfishly speaking, I mean, what does

1223
01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:32,639
hard mean? Hard mean? You know, every twenty five K

1224
01:00:32,719 --> 01:00:35,480
and higher? Does hard mean he's going to be out

1225
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:37,840
there battling in the five K eight max I mean, like,

1226
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,280
what what what is? What does hard mean? I guess

1227
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,280
I guess we got to talk to Jason and figure

1228
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,440
this out. Yeah, but he's, like he said, he's basically

1229
01:00:46,519 --> 01:00:48,199
ready to get after it. I would probably say that,

1230
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:50,320
you know, some of that was maybe family stuff. You know,

1231
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,760
has two young kids now, so you know, spend a

1232
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,639
little bit more time there. He's already obviously made a

1233
01:00:56,639 --> 01:00:59,639
crap ton of money in poker, you know, so plays

1234
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:02,679
a little bit more infrequently these days, but come the

1235
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:06,199
summer next year, it's back to full on blasting. And

1236
01:01:06,239 --> 01:01:11,760
if he's putting in, if he puts in twenty plus events,

1237
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,239
which I think is a lot, that's a lot for him, right.

1238
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,199
But I mean the way he's talking, I mean that

1239
01:01:19,199 --> 01:01:22,360
that seems like that would what it would mean twenty

1240
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,880
plus events, then I would say he's got a pretty

1241
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:30,360
good shot at winning another bracelet, right, I mean, especially

1242
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,360
in the fields that he's in. He's obviously won a

1243
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,679
lot of those types of high roll or super high

1244
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,199
roller fields, right, you know, obviously they're they're frequented by

1245
01:01:38,639 --> 01:01:41,159
a ton of top players. But kun is among the

1246
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:43,239
best of the best, if not the best, so he

1247
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,679
can certainly compete there the fields are a little bit small,

1248
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:47,599
or the structures are very good, all that sort of stuff.

1249
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:50,239
So yeah, I would say if you can get if

1250
01:01:50,239 --> 01:01:52,519
you can get twenty plus events out of Kuhn, then

1251
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,760
I would put him in the camp of probably a favorite,

1252
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,440
even money ish to win a bracelet, and yeah, we'll see.

1253
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,039
I hope he really does go after it. I really do,

1254
01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:08,760
you know. So I've always wanted to, like in a

1255
01:02:09,079 --> 01:02:12,239
fantasy world, like take a Jason Kuhn and be like, hey,

1256
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:17,760
you have to play one hundred live poker tournaments a year,

1257
01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:20,440
not of a buy and above five thousand dollars. I

1258
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,440
just want to see how you do, like go out

1259
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:27,280
play like you know the eleven mspt at fire keepers,

1260
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,920
like you know, I want to like, I want to

1261
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,480
like what you know, can you have a profitable year

1262
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,960
like I mean obviously yes, I mean you know there's

1263
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:38,480
variants of course, but I just I want to see it, right, Yeah,

1264
01:02:38,519 --> 01:02:41,559
But anyway, all right, fantasy update quickly, not too much

1265
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,519
to hit on, only the fact that you had one

1266
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:47,079
cash from the you had Jim Calby finished I think

1267
01:02:47,079 --> 01:02:47,880
the twenty five k.

1268
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah for it.

1269
01:02:49,719 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: There, So I'm still up on PGT points twelve hundred

1270
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,239
and seventy five for me, eleven twenty for you. You're up

1271
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,320
on wins two to one. I'm up on cashes anyone

1272
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,920
to seventeen. Of course, the last little fantasy stretch for

1273
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:09,440
us here is the PGT Texas PLO roundup that's coming

1274
01:03:09,519 --> 01:03:10,719
up pretty soon.

1275
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,519
Speaker 2: I felt like I ran awful to not get a

1276
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:17,920
couple of cashes there where at Ozma's Collopy.

1277
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,599
Speaker 1: Hendrix has enough cashes this year, so don't worry about that.

1278
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,119
Speaker 2: I needed one more.

1279
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I mean, yeah, I ran bad too.

1280
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:31,639
I didn't get anything.

1281
01:03:32,119 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have a terrible team, you have a

1282
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:37,119
PGT only team.

1283
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:45,199
Speaker 1: Well, a decent shot we would get YACKI and Shulman I.

1284
01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:47,679
I didn't know at the time of drafting what Lonas

1285
01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:50,239
would do, ye go to Triton or not, but there

1286
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,840
there's a good shot that he stays here. I mean

1287
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,599
he's from like, you know, there's big buyans on the schedule,

1288
01:03:55,639 --> 01:03:57,440
like why go over to whatever? And then I saw

1289
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,039
that he was heading over to trit and I was like, oh,

1290
01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:01,920
well I lost that one whatever. So yeah, I'm just

1291
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,199
I guess trying to play defense. You know I don't

1292
01:04:04,199 --> 01:04:09,440
play defense here. Speaking of Jeremy osmus Let's hit on

1293
01:04:09,559 --> 01:04:13,599
the PGT leaderboard, Jeremy osmus maintains his lead despite having

1294
01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:17,480
no cashes during the NAPT twenty seven hundred and eighty

1295
01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:21,320
nine points for him. Notable finishes from the two PGT

1296
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,400
qualifying events you have Jim Collaby. He moved up to

1297
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,159
seventh with seventeen hundred and twenty one points. He got

1298
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:32,559
fourth in the twenty five K. David Coleman moved up

1299
01:04:32,599 --> 01:04:35,119
to nine, so back into the top ten sixteen hundred

1300
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:37,880
and fifteen points for him. He got fourth in the

1301
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:42,920
ten K. Sean Winter who took runner up to Stephen Song.

1302
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,360
He got second in that twenty five K, he gets

1303
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,280
up to fourteenth thirteen hundred and eighty three points. Sam

1304
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,239
Silverll he won the ten K, he gets into thirty third,

1305
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,239
so into the top forty one thousand and seventy seven

1306
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,559
points for him. And then Scott sever who got sixteenth

1307
01:04:58,639 --> 01:05:00,360
in the ten K, so not a big K, but

1308
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:03,239
enough to boost his points to one thousand and twenty

1309
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,360
eight and he's now thirty six. So that is the

1310
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:09,440
that's the group of people that are in the top

1311
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,519
forty or now in the top forty, because you obviously

1312
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:14,719
have several who moved into the top forty following the

1313
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,239
PGT qualifying events at the NAPT and then you also

1314
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,280
had brock Wilson, David Stam, Stevensong, who we talked about

1315
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,519
at length already, and Nick Seward all had decent results

1316
01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:28,639
from either the twenty five K or the ten K,

1317
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,119
and they are now what I would call within striking

1318
01:05:31,159 --> 01:05:35,320
distance of the top forty. Brock Wilson is the closest

1319
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:39,400
technically outside but also technically in, depending on how you

1320
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,079
want to look at it. Because if it ended today,

1321
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:43,079
there are some people in the top forty who don't

1322
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,840
have the qualifier of three cases, so those people would

1323
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:50,000
not be qualified. Therefore brock Wilson would be qualified and

1324
01:05:50,039 --> 01:05:52,280
he would get in. But let's just look at the

1325
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,599
top forty. He's currently in forty eighth place, so he'll

1326
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:00,639
behind that PGT Last Chance Series. David Stam is eighty third,

1327
01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:02,719
Stephen Song climbed all the way up to eighty seventh,

1328
01:06:02,719 --> 01:06:05,639
and Nick Seward is in one hundred and third. I

1329
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:07,519
would probably expect all of them to be at the

1330
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:13,000
Last Chance Series. Yeah, A win, A couple final tables

1331
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,280
probably does it for at least the first three, Wilson,

1332
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,360
Stamm and Song. I mean for Wilson, it's probably just

1333
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,079
you know, a cash or two and he locks himself

1334
01:06:22,119 --> 01:06:25,559
in Seward has a little bit more of an uphill climb,

1335
01:06:25,719 --> 01:06:28,199
but you know, one hundred and third place, you know

1336
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,400
he can, he can, he can have some results at

1337
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,320
that at that last Chance series, So you know, I

1338
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,480
would kind of keep an eye on them, and yeah,

1339
01:06:38,519 --> 01:06:42,119
I guess also worth noting that Jonathan Tomayo did not

1340
01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:45,719
get his third cash, so he's still sitting on too.

1341
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,480
He wasn't the napt playing everything. We mentioned his deep run.

1342
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,239
I think it was twenty third in the main events,

1343
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,119
but that was not PGT qualifying. The twenty five k

1344
01:06:53,199 --> 01:06:54,199
and the ten k were so.

1345
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: Same with Matthew Ambrush, he played both high rollers. Break

1346
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,360
those out and here is he aware? Yeah, he's like

1347
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,760
if I break, He told me in person, if I

1348
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,559
break this series, I might have to go to Texas.

1349
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:07,840
And he doesn't play and he doesn't love.

1350
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,159
Speaker 1: Jeremy Becker also like he was he was like you,

1351
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,840
he was like, you guys got me, You got me

1352
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,559
with the points, Like I'm out here because he's outside

1353
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:17,559
the top forty trying to get in, so he's you know,

1354
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:19,559
a lot of these guys are are chasing the point.

1355
01:07:19,639 --> 01:07:23,840
So I would say we did our job. Like I mean,

1356
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:26,679
I feel like a lot of these guys might have

1357
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,920
been at risk to going to Triton, but they stuck around,

1358
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:34,679
you know, and uh, yeah, I think it's it's good,

1359
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,719
you know. So so I mean Shaan Winter, for example,

1360
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,400
like I thought maybe he would go to Triton. David Coleman.

1361
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,280
I always feel like is like on the verge of

1362
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,079
going to Triton. Like at some point he's going to

1363
01:07:46,119 --> 01:07:48,599
go to Triton, right, I mean, I have no idea

1364
01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:50,719
about Sam Sorowell. He could probably go to Triton too.

1365
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,599
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever been to one, No.

1366
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. But like I feel like at

1367
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,920
some point, like these these big behind players are just

1368
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,159
gonna gonna jump over and go to at least one stop, right,

1369
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,039
just kind of take a shot. So but yeah, I thought,

1370
01:08:05,159 --> 01:08:07,360
you know, we already talked about the turnouts sixty and

1371
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,920
one seventy. Of course a lot of our players were

1372
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,920
in the field. So I say our players, like we

1373
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,159
own them, we don't own them, but you know a

1374
01:08:15,159 --> 01:08:18,279
lot of the PGT regulars were in the field, so

1375
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:21,159
so yeah, good stuff overall. Next up for the PGT

1376
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,840
already touched on it, the Texas PLO Roundup. Matthew Lambreckt.

1377
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,159
You know, four cards, le'll can't be that much?

1378
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,399
Speaker 2: Yeah much?

1379
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,039
Speaker 1: I mean how yeah? Well he needs one cat, yes,

1380
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,199
So I mean, just he should just max late reds

1381
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:38,920
the main event every single day and just like freaking

1382
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,319
folds cat exactly. I mean, it can't be that complicated

1383
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:45,359
to learn how to play PLO, to like just get

1384
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:50,319
yourself into the money of one too. So that series

1385
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,199
starts on November sixteenth, that runs through November twenty fifth.

1386
01:08:53,199 --> 01:08:56,479
It includes four PGT qualifying events. Of course, the biggest

1387
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,399
of the bunch is the thirty three hundred dollars buying

1388
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:03,560
main event, one million dollars guarant teed. There are also

1389
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,159
three fifty one hundred dollars PLO high rollers. And then

1390
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:11,479
we also announced the PGT Last Chance Series January second

1391
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,279
through twenty ninth, a bunch of ten k's how many

1392
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:20,680
six six six ten ks, all leading into the PGT

1393
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:25,079
Million dollars Championship. So that is coming up on the horizon.

1394
01:09:25,119 --> 01:09:28,479
So in terms of the PGT, I guess quiet December

1395
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,520
for us, don't have anything running, but that's okay. It'll

1396
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,840
be a big January, of course, and then it's gonna

1397
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,079
all roll right into the next PGT season. It's gonna

1398
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:41,520
start with the PGT kickoff January twentieth through twenty fifth.

1399
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,600
We got the Poker grol Cup announced for February eleventh

1400
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,800
through twentieth. PGT Mixed Games is coming back February twenty

1401
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:53,800
fifth through March fifth, brand new Super High rollerbl Mixed Games.

1402
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:58,439
Tim is working hard on this one March sixth through eighth,

1403
01:09:59,039 --> 01:10:01,560
planning to be a hundre undred thousand dollars buy in events,

1404
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,479
so similar to the Super High Rollable PLO, gonna do

1405
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:10,359
super High Rollable Mixed Games. As I said, Tim is

1406
01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:12,520
working hard on it, but also very pushing, very hard

1407
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,760
for his Philip Sternheimer, who's like, we might as well

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name it the Sternheimer Roller Bowl with the way that

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he's pushing this thing. So hopefully, you know, he gets

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Speaker 2: Gy PPC at the Divis, Yeah, fifty g PPC, So.

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Speaker 1: I mean that would be what would what do you

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want for entries?

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Speaker 2: Three tables would be I was gonna say nice, it's nice. Yeah,

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anything of a twenty I think is okay, it's a it.

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We just never know. It's so hot to predict.

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thousand dollars no limit hold Them event, Peter Aertz, Michael Soyza,

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Fader Holtz, and Mario Mosbach chopped it up. I believe

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five and two point three million for them, Iyertz two

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point two three four million, soye's a two point three million.

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Fader Holds one point five million, and Mosbach one point

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five million, so they chopped it up there. Patrick Antonius,

1476
01:14:05,079 --> 01:14:08,520
the legendary Patrick Antonius, recent inductee into the Poker Hall

1477
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of Fame. He won the two hundred thousand dollars Invitational

1478
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for a career best score of five million, one hundred

1479
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:19,399
and thirty thousand dollars. This guy still does it, Tim,

1480
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:20,079
It's the best.

1481
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Speaker 2: I just wish you played on our events.

1482
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a freaking crusher man. It's unbelievable. Yeah,

1483
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,319
he looks like he has an aged a day.

1484
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,399
Speaker 2: It's yeah wild.

1485
01:14:29,039 --> 01:14:33,359
Speaker 1: Nearly twelve million in tournament prize money this year for Antonius,

1486
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:36,399
his best year ever. And then you had Jesse Lonis

1487
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,079
winning the fifty thousand dollars Noloman hold Him seven handed

1488
01:14:39,119 --> 01:14:43,239
event for just over one point five million dollars. And

1489
01:14:43,279 --> 01:14:47,840
then today, just before we hit record, Bryn Kenny won

1490
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the one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars buying Triton

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Main Event over in Monte Carlo his second Triton main

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event title. He won it for four million, four hundred

1493
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,720
and ten thousand dollars, and it allowed him to become

1494
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,920
the first player in poker history to eclipse seventy million

1495
01:15:07,119 --> 01:15:11,239
dollars in live tournament winnings. Holy freaking crap, man, I mean,

1496
01:15:11,279 --> 01:15:15,319
this guy like literally shows up for the biggest events

1497
01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:17,920
in the world. Only, like I does he play anything

1498
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:23,359
less than a hunter k Yeah, I know I'm exaggerating

1499
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:29,079
hyperbole here, but still, I mean, wild, absolutely wild. He

1500
01:15:29,119 --> 01:15:33,239
crushes man, He's the best. Yeah, he's just freaking wild.

1501
01:15:33,279 --> 01:15:37,600
How I mean, I mean seventy million? Good lord, I

1502
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,199
mean he's got it. I know we talked about it

1503
01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:41,319
like a couple of months ago in terms of, like,

1504
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:42,840
you know, who's gonna be the first player to one

1505
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,720
hundred million. I mean it has to be him now.

1506
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,119
Speaker 2: He's yeah, the favorite, you know.

1507
01:15:46,199 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean I thought he was gonna be a little

1508
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,000
bit more few and far between in terms of some scores,

1509
01:15:50,039 --> 01:15:52,680
but I guess not. I guess you know, just every

1510
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,800
trading poker series, you know, Brin Kenny's just gonna rip

1511
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,399
off multimly. They said something on the broadcast after he

1512
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,800
won like his average cash and a trating event is

1513
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:05,279
like two and a half million dollars. Fuck a real

1514
01:16:05,359 --> 01:16:09,880
stat That's awesome, I mean, good lord. So yeah, so

1515
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,199
that is Britny winning the main event. They have some

1516
01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:15,800
like they have a one hundred and fifty k that

1517
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,199
started now, so there's some other stuff going on. I'm

1518
01:16:18,239 --> 01:16:19,840
sure if we have any big winners there, Tim and

1519
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,800
I will hit on it. But all the killers are

1520
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,520
out there at the Trenton Poker Series over in Monte

1521
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:31,079
Carlo doing their thing. Last topic today, Phil Galfond had

1522
01:16:31,079 --> 01:16:34,319
this long, long, long, very long like it might as

1523
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:37,880
well have been an essay on Twitter slash x where

1524
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:43,199
he talked about his idea. So I guess quickly on

1525
01:16:43,239 --> 01:16:47,640
some background. So his idea is essentially giving back Rake

1526
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:54,079
or maybe rewarding Rake back in the form of various

1527
01:16:54,199 --> 01:16:57,279
types of rewards for the players. And what I mean

1528
01:16:57,319 --> 01:17:01,760
by that is so Galfund launched Run It Once Poker.

1529
01:17:03,159 --> 01:17:06,720
It didn't work at least it didn't catch on, but

1530
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,279
then he ended up selling the platform to Rush Street

1531
01:17:10,319 --> 01:17:15,399
Interactive and it all became Bett Rivers Poker in Pennsylvania.

1532
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,439
So that is now currently live and running. Bet Rivers

1533
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,680
is like a big gaming company, right, it's not just poker.

1534
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,800
They have sports, they have casino, all this sort of

1535
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:32,399
stuff and gal funds. I guess Galaxy brain idea is

1536
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,560
knowing that if you're part of a big company like

1537
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,720
a Bette Rivers, and you have these three verticals casino,

1538
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,520
sports and poker, poker is always the lowest on the

1539
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,079
total pool, right, Like you just you make less money

1540
01:17:45,119 --> 01:17:47,359
from that, there's leftos for revenue, et cetera. It's more

1541
01:17:47,399 --> 01:17:50,800
of like, in a way, a marketing tool to get

1542
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,680
people into the platform and then maybe you eventually convert

1543
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:57,760
them to casino and sportsbook where you know, you make

1544
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,960
a lot more money there the margins are higher, et cetera.

1545
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:07,520
So knowing that, his idea is to essentially take the

1546
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,279
rake from the poker and then give it back to

1547
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:16,800
the players in a quote unquote zero rake model where

1548
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,039
you reinvest this rake as rewards and they can like

1549
01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:24,159
use these rewards, I guess most specifically for casino and

1550
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:26,119
sports books. So it's a way to get people in

1551
01:18:26,199 --> 01:18:30,079
through poker and then hopefully convert them to the better

1552
01:18:30,279 --> 01:18:36,319
revenue generating models that are casino and sports books through

1553
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,079
you know, reading his post, I guess he has three

1554
01:18:39,159 --> 01:18:43,079
months to make this happen. You know, basically they gave him,

1555
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,039
you know, I mean, Galfund's always extremely transparent. You can

1556
01:18:46,079 --> 01:18:48,800
find it on Twitter, you know, just at Phil Galfund

1557
01:18:49,119 --> 01:18:51,960
and read all about this. But for the next three

1558
01:18:52,079 --> 01:18:54,479
three months, you know, Bette Rivers Poker is going to

1559
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,680
run this this zero rake model as sort of a trial,

1560
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,880
and they're going to see if they can attract more

1561
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,239
players than they originally projected to attract, and then also

1562
01:19:04,279 --> 01:19:08,239
convert those players to casino and sportsbook and and and

1563
01:19:08,359 --> 01:19:12,640
see if see if that's sort of a better revenue

1564
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:19,000
generating model. I mean, he seems bullish on it. I

1565
01:19:19,039 --> 01:19:23,720
don't know if it'll work, but yeah, what what what

1566
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,279
are your thoughts hearing everything that I kind of just outlined.

1567
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,600
Do you think it's gonna work?

1568
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're giving raak back to players, it's

1569
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,199
maybe going to get your play apol to grow, But

1570
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,800
how's the company going to survive? Just doesn't you must

1571
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,560
have you you you have to have some crazy long

1572
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,479
term plan that involves, as you said, converting them to casino,

1573
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,960
converting them to sports betting or whatever. I also don't

1574
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,359
think you need to give them back all the raake.

1575
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,239
You could just have a very good break back program,

1576
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,199
because obviously we're.

1577
01:19:58,439 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: That's kind of what they're going to do. So like

1578
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,800
a if I pay one hundred dollars in rake at

1579
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,119
the end of let's say at the end, I have

1580
01:20:04,199 --> 01:20:05,760
no id if this is exactly how it's going to work.

1581
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,920
But this is an example. At the end of the week,

1582
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,520
I get an email that says, Hey, Donny Peters, you

1583
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,319
paid one hundred dollars in rake. You can redeem that

1584
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,880
rake back here with a one hundred dollars free bet

1585
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:21,079
on Bett River sports book. So like that's essentially how

1586
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:21,840
this can.

1587
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that's as attractive as it sounds, though

1588
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:29,000
to poker players. Not every poker player is a I.

1589
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,520
Speaker 1: Mean, I I agree with you. That would be my

1590
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,680
first concern is that the the poker players, the players

1591
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,680
that are going to I guess be in like the

1592
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:45,800
circle of Phil Galfon, are just poker players, right, I mean,

1593
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,880
I don't think they necessarily care about casino and sports book,

1594
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,840
so it might just be like kind of a one

1595
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,960
and done type of thing where they, you know, fire

1596
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,800
these casino bets these sports book bets whatever. But then

1597
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,239
they're not actually going to like move over to firing

1598
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,359
in the you know, the virtual pits or you know,

1599
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,119
or firing in the sportsbook. They're not going to do that.

1600
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,399
So that would be my first concern. Not that not

1601
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,680
that I'm like that this is how it's going to be.

1602
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,960
That would just be my like, this, this might not

1603
01:21:19,039 --> 01:21:22,039
work for that reason type of thing. Secondary to that is,

1604
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:26,399
I don't know if being in a fenced in market

1605
01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:31,039
of Pennsylvania only like allows this to even be able

1606
01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:33,880
to be successful within a three month window because you're

1607
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:40,920
already at the you're already working with a much smaller

1608
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,399
player pool, right just being in a one state versus

1609
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,920
like if you were to do this in like let's say,

1610
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,359
if WSP dot Com did this for an example, and

1611
01:21:50,399 --> 01:21:53,039
they have Michigan in New Jersey all in one, like,

1612
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,199
you know, maybe it's a little bit better. I'd obviously

1613
01:21:56,199 --> 01:21:58,960
have to check the populations. Maybe Pennsylvania's larger, but the

1614
01:22:00,199 --> 01:22:03,439
player populations, I don't know. I feel like this might

1615
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,199
be something that you would want to roll out more

1616
01:22:07,239 --> 01:22:10,680
down the line, because it might be an extremely good

1617
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:15,600
idea and it might work in the future. But because

1618
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:21,479
you're handicapped by being stuck in just one state, then

1619
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,000
maybe it doesn't work and you would deem it as unsuccessful,

1620
01:22:25,119 --> 01:22:28,479
But it might be successful. It might be something where like,

1621
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,800
if let's fast forward five ten years, you have eight

1622
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,640
states on board, everyone's sharing liquidity, then you implement this

1623
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:41,000
right versus like if it fails now and it doesn't

1624
01:22:41,039 --> 01:22:43,920
work and then you want to try it again down

1625
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,600
the road, will executives just look at you and be like,

1626
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,479
we tried this before, it didn't work, so we're not

1627
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,439
doing it. But it might have just been the fact

1628
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,079
that you just had a lot of obstacles in your

1629
01:22:54,119 --> 01:22:56,560
way to get it to work. So that would be

1630
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:01,479
another sort of concern. I I do like the galfond

1631
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:06,279
Is is thinking outside the box here. I do agree

1632
01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:09,439
that you know, when you're a big company like a

1633
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,479
Bette Rivers, where you have these three verticals all at play,

1634
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,600
poker is unfortunately the lowest. I mean, obviously, we love

1635
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,560
poker on this podcast and we want it to be

1636
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,520
the biggest, but that's just not how the world works.

1637
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,840
It's very much like a regular casino, you know, the

1638
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,640
poker rooms are often in the back or they're an

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01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,760
afterthought or a lot of pokes rooms in Vegas are

1640
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,880
closing down. Which which one just closed down recently? Is

1641
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,079
it Luxor is close closing down their poker room? I

1642
01:23:34,119 --> 01:23:38,560
forget exactly, Sahara so so, so yeah, you know, it's

1643
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,079
just it's unfortunate, but that's just how it is. You know,

1644
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,720
slots make more money, table games make more money, sportsbook

1645
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,800
makes more money. You know, all that sort of stuff.

1646
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:51,159
Also has less overhead than than poker. So so yeah,

1647
01:23:51,399 --> 01:23:53,600
so I don't I don't hate the concept. I just

1648
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,600
don't know if it's going to work. But I mean, listen,

1649
01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,199
I guess you got to hand it to fill golf

1650
01:23:59,279 --> 01:24:03,159
On for trying. You know, he's obviously trying. And then

1651
01:24:03,279 --> 01:24:06,119
if this, let's say this works, this model works where

1652
01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:08,760
you're doing it this way, I could see it catching

1653
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,600
on to being adopted by a poker stars, asp A,

1654
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,000
bet MGM, et cetera. Right, you know, I guess WSOP

1655
01:24:17,119 --> 01:24:22,079
would be the outlier there, just because I feel like

1656
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:27,600
WSP is always kind of separate than the actual casino stuff. Yeah,

1657
01:24:28,279 --> 01:24:30,439
and and maybe that's more so now that they're going

1658
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,279
to be owned by GG Poker, Right, So maybe that

1659
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,600
nessarially cares so much about that. But like a bet

1660
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,119
MGM which is all has all this sort of stuff,

1661
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:43,960
which or a poker star poker stars which has all

1662
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,479
this sort of stuff, then then then maybe they end

1663
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,079
up going down this road as well. So so we'll see.

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01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:52,159
That's all I got. Oh, I want to hit on

1665
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:55,680
one thing. Uh we mentioned we met one person at

1666
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,079
my table in the main event, David. I believe if

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01:24:59,079 --> 01:25:01,880
I'm saying your last NAM incorrectly, David, just message me

1668
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,479
and tell me anam it's either IVES or ivis one

1669
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,159
or the other. But he's playing at the main event

1670
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:11,039
final table with me, and you come over and he

1671
01:25:11,119 --> 01:25:14,359
recognized you. He didn't recognize me, but then because I

1672
01:25:14,359 --> 01:25:16,279
didn't say anything, but then I said something. He recognized

1673
01:25:16,319 --> 01:25:17,720
my voice on the podcast and he said he came

1674
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,479
out and played because of well us talking around on

1675
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,079
the podcast. So good for David.

1676
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: Did you beat him out of any pots?

1677
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: We probably honestly broke even he beat you out of

1678
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:33,880
one hand when I should have bluffed, I should have

1679
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,000
fallen through with a bluff and I didn't. I just

1680
01:25:36,039 --> 01:25:38,840
didn't pull the trigger. I opened nine Native diamonds. This

1681
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,399
was in a stretch when I was playing every hand,

1682
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,640
I opened nine native diamonds. He called imposition. I think

1683
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:48,119
he was on the button maybe, and it came Ace

1684
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:53,239
six ' three rainbow with one diamond. I thought, my

1685
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:58,680
best course of action here is to check raise.

1686
01:25:59,079 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I checked.

1687
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: He bets I think twenty five hundred. I made it

1688
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:10,079
sixty five. He called, which is fine. I mean he's

1689
01:26:10,119 --> 01:26:13,520
got an ace here a lot. I mean he can

1690
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,640
obviously have a set as well. But you know, he

1691
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,479
definitely has mostly aces here and he probably doesn't have

1692
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,760
he can he could probably have Ace Queen. I don't

1693
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,840
I don't know how David would play Ace Queen specifically.

1694
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,319
I would say that he doesn't have Ace king. He

1695
01:26:28,359 --> 01:26:31,000
can maybe have Ace three suited. But he was also

1696
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:34,319
new to getting moved to the table anyway. And I

1697
01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:36,119
can also turn a lot equity, like if it turns

1698
01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:38,600
like a diamond, seven of diamonds, for example, would be

1699
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,680
a perfect card. I just start barreling off. Turn was

1700
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:48,960
a deuce maybe, yeah, deuce, not a diamond. I opted

1701
01:26:49,039 --> 01:26:52,399
to just check, and I should have just went. I

1702
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,359
was like, I'm just gonna go bet jam and I

1703
01:26:55,399 --> 01:26:58,119
was like, I don't know this guy can have two pairs.

1704
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:01,640
I have eight now in my hand. I want him

1705
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,119
to have like ACE eight a nine, right, So I

1706
01:27:04,199 --> 01:27:07,159
was like, hm, I don't know. I ultimately didn't think

1707
01:27:07,159 --> 01:27:09,439
that he would fold an ace, is what I just

1708
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,560
I don't know. I just talked myself into that I

1709
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,840
should have just barreled it off. So the hell with it.

1710
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,920
So I checked turn. He checked back, river was a five.

1711
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,640
Put a four liner out there. If he had a four,

1712
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,319
I I mean, I don't think I have any fours

1713
01:27:25,359 --> 01:27:28,359
really here, especially the way I played my hand. He

1714
01:27:28,359 --> 01:27:30,479
could have ACE four. So that's why I then didn't

1715
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,119
bet the river. But if the river was like I

1716
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:36,800
don't know something that didn't put a four line out there,

1717
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,359
maybe I bet it. Maybe pairs the board I bet.

1718
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:39,520
I don't I don't know, but I ended up just

1719
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,399
checking again. He checked back he had a nine. So

1720
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,359
I definitely could have blown him off the hand there,

1721
01:27:43,399 --> 01:27:46,279
I think if I would fall through with my original plan.

1722
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:51,840
But yeah, I didn't pull the trigger because because, yeah,

1723
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,199
I decided I didn't need to do it. I don't

1724
01:27:55,239 --> 01:27:58,319
know why. I just thought better of it. Through all everything,

1725
01:27:58,359 --> 01:28:00,000
I just didn't think ultimately he would fold an ace.

1726
01:28:01,239 --> 01:28:04,479
I do this sometimes where like I, you know, I

1727
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,600
checked the flop and I'm like, I can just fold

1728
01:28:08,039 --> 01:28:09,840
to their bet, and then I'm like, no, the hell

1729
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,960
with it, check raise. I did this in the Run

1730
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,479
Good tournament, like the second hand that I played, and like, I,

1731
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,239
you know, I have fucking eight high on the river

1732
01:28:18,279 --> 01:28:20,560
and I'm just putting all my money and like, you know,

1733
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,800
that's and of course I have to endure the fucking

1734
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,479
three hour three hour tank and I get the fold.

1735
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,560
But it's like, you know, it's one of those spots

1736
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,920
where like I could have just check folded and like

1737
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,560
not dealt with this and put myself into this this situation,

1738
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,560
but here I am, and now I have nothing and

1739
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,479
I have to go bluffing. So anyway, yeah, but yeah,

1740
01:28:39,079 --> 01:28:40,880
but then I won a hand against him where like

1741
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,840
I opened ace ten suited race then off, sorry, don't

1742
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,640
even give me the credit for having it suited, got

1743
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,560
the guy behind me, Uh, went all in for like

1744
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,520
three x my rais. David called and then I called

1745
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,279
and it came ten high, and so I won those

1746
01:28:57,319 --> 01:28:59,680
chips from David there. So we ultimately probably broke even

1747
01:29:00,279 --> 01:29:01,600
over the course of the day. But it was a

1748
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,920
pleasure of meeting him. He's from the Northeast, so my

1749
01:29:06,039 --> 01:29:08,319
neck of the woods, and uh yeah, hopefully I'll see

1750
01:29:08,399 --> 01:29:13,159
him around plenty more. So good seeing you out there.

1751
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:18,880
That's all. I got. Anything you got, no good, that's it.

1752
01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:23,920
We'll be back. I have no idea when in a week. Maybe,

1753
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:25,520
well you're going to Texas.

1754
01:29:26,279 --> 01:29:30,039
Speaker 2: I go on next Sunday, Okay, this Sunday, Okay, got

1755
01:29:30,039 --> 01:29:30,520
this Sunday.

1756
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well we'll get some updates from Texas

1757
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,520
for sure, if not anything beforehand, but uh yeah, as

1758
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:42,399
always follow this guy on social media tim Underscore Underscore

1759
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:47,399
to Underscore Underscore, Underscore, Duckworth, I'm Johnny Underscore Peters and

1760
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,119
we will talk to you guys next time.

1761
01:29:49,479 --> 01:30:02,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, he fo