Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a brand new episode of
the Poker Go Podcast. It is Monday, November eleventh. My
name is Donna Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth. The
should I call you the shape shifter? Like, well, I
don't you know? Every time I see you have a
bit of a different look going on. You put a
photo on Instagram saying you look like a homeless person.
Now I saw you. I saw you dressed as a
cowboy at one point, like you've been all over the place.
Please listen, therapy session. Okay, talk me through your midlife crisis,
because clearly that's what's happening here. Have you bought a
Ferrari yet? Like you know what's what's next.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing with a midleft cristis everyone buys
a car, right, They buy the Corvette, they buy the Ferrari,
they buy the Porsche. I'm doing it in different ways,
growing the hand.
Speaker 1: Well you did. You did recently buy a Tesla?
Speaker 2: So was that that was lost year? That wasn't even
part of the midlife crisis. I'm growing the hair, I'm
growing the beard, Experimenting with clothes, buying some more clothes.
It's a much cheaper way to have a midlife crisis
than to buy a car. So the family should be
happy with that.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I mean listen, I like the new style.
You know, I'm not gonna hate it, and I know
I know a bunch of people clown on it, but.
Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: You know, you look good out there. Don't let people
get you down.
Speaker 2: It's like I don't have any shame. I don't mind
what people say anymore.
Speaker 1: That's that's good. That's good. Today we're going to talk
about NPT Las Vegas wrapping up. We'll recap some of
the winners. Of course, there were some very big winners
as part of the series, we'll hit on some other
notable ones. Tim and I will give our series thoughts
and feedback. We were there pretty much every single day
over the course of the napt's return, so we'll touch
on all of that. We have some other news from
Poker Stars in that they signed two new ambassadors, so
we will hit on that. We got to talk about
the PGT leaderboard because two events as part of the
NPT Las Vegas qualified for the PGT, so we will
hit on those events and how they shook up the leaderboard.
As it also pertains to the PGT. We got some
events coming up to close out the season, of course,
and then we did recently announce the first group of
events for twenty twenty five, so stay tuned to hear
about that. I guess we'll go across the pond Triton
Poker Series. Monte Carlo is running some massive buying tournaments
happening over there and some very big notable winners that
we need to mention. And then I want to hit
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b napt Las Vegas. First things first, we have the
main event eight hundred eighty five entries, which is freaking enormous.
Five hundred and forty three uniques is what I saw
listed on the results sheet from Poker Stars three hundred
and fifty two entries. The main event had a fifty
three hundred dollars buy in this year, up from last
years what was it sixteen fifty last year.
Speaker 2: Sixteen sixteen hundred flat right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember exactly what it was, but much smaller. Nonetheless,
so this year they bumped it up. Tim and I
have obviously talked about that at length. They slapped on
a bigger guarantee three million. They smashed that guarantee four million,
three hundred and forty thousand dollars in prize money, so
incredible turnout for them. You know, talking with some of
the Poker Stars people ahead of time, it seemed like
they were I would say small c concerned about the guarantee,
you know, questioning if that it was gonna hit. I
thought it was a no brainer that it was gonna hit.
So you know, I think they landed kind of within
the window where it doesn't qualify as a fake guarantee.
My window is a live poker tournament guarantee. Should the
end result the prize school should be ten to twenty
five percent higher than the guarantee, Like, it shouldn't be
like one hundred percent higher. It shouldn't be seventy five
percent higher. It shouldn't be two hundred percent. You know,
a million dollar guarantee and you have a four million
dollar prize pool, Like, no, that means you said a
bad guarantee. So I think this is a pretty good guarantee.
I also probably think that it gives them confidence to
up it next year if they do come back. So
we'll see. Nick Marchington, the twenty six year old out
of the UK, won at all seven hundred and sixty
five thousand dollars for him. He defeated Joel Mika in
second place four hundred and seventy eight k for Micah MICCA.
He took second place I think in the PCA yeapt yeah,
I mean just just the serial run up finisher. I
guess Marchington had the chip lead late in the tournament
on the second to last day, carried that chip lead
into the final table and then never gave up the
chip let. Just an absolute masterclass of what to do
with the chip lead, how to apply pressure, how to
stay aggressive, you know, just really leveraging his stack, the
ICM implications that were at play, all of that sort
of stuff. I've played with Marchington in the past. It
is no ef and fun to play with that kid.
He is so freaking good, so freaking aggressive. He battles
in every single pot. I know. Our good friend Monuara
played with him deep in this event. Mo ended up
cashing had to battle with Marchington on I think day two,
and it's just, I mean, it's just hard playing against
somebody like this. He's so young, he's so good, he's
so hungry to just get after it in every single hand.
I know. I mentioned that he's from the UK, but
Marchington does spend a lot of his time here in
Las Vegas. He plays a lot of cash games here,
plays a lot of tournaments you know, around town as well,
so he's always out there battling. And yeah, I mean,
I guess people got first word of him. What twenty
nineteen ws BE Main Event final table he took even
plays I want to say our good friend Gary Gates
got fourth place that year. Nick Marchington was at the
final table. There was some some I guess controversy coming
out of that where him and his backers and this
whole thing, the staking agreement. It was all you know,
talked about on social media, in the press, whatnot. But
sounds like everything kind of got sorted out with that situation.
And you know, Marchington has gone on to have a
from at least for everything that I can tell, a
very successful career. I know it's still very young for him,
but I would expect him to just continue to go
on and crush and and started, you know, started exploring
I guess bigger buyings, high rollers, that sort of thing.
You know, you have a massive score like this seven
hundred and sixty five k. You know that really pads
the bank roll. And I think he has what it
takes to take take that next step. So so yeah,
just running out this final table, Jeff mats In third place,
Marco Johnson fourth place, Kurt Colbert fifth place, Masado Jokasawa
sixth place, Brock Wilson seventh, and Matt Aflac eighth. What
do you got thoughts on the main event, sir.
Speaker 2: It was huge. Yeah, I didn't think it was going
to get nearly nine hundred entrance. Really yeah, it's you know,
we obviously had try it none it is a bigger
buying than normal. The satellites, you know, weren't doing that
great leading up to the series, so I knew it
was going to break the guarantee. But yeah, nine hundred
is a great result. I guess the first question is,
you know, if they're bringing this back next year and
everything we've kind of heard off the like under the radar,
is that, of course it's coming back. Will they put
the move the guarantee up? You know, are they going
to go to three and a half million? Are they
going to go to four million? I guess that's the
first question I have about the main event. But yeah,
great turnout. Very impressed by everything that's happened this week
at results.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you and I were there every single day,
so I guess we have some some thoughts, some feedback
on how things played out. Just quickly in the main events,
we did have Matthew Wantman finishing in tenth place. David
od b Baker got thirteenth, Maria Kanakova got fourteenth as
my Dog's bark in the background hubsbe main event champion
Jonathan Tamayo twenty third place, and then last year's champion
of the NAPT Las Vegas main event, Sammy besha Head.
He got thirty seven, so nice run there for the
defending champ. An APT Las Vegas did have two high rollers.
They had what they have last year, one ten K
and a five K. I think they called the five
K the high roller. That was the one that.
Speaker 2: Ye depends what you define high rollers as.
Speaker 1: I'm saying what they called it, what they titled it
as I think last year was a five K Yeah,
and Samuel lasko Its won it. I believe Shannon Shores
at the final table. I think Jesse Lowns is at
the final table.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 1: They they upped their game in the high roller section
of things, partnered with the PGT as well. Both these
high rollers were PGT qualifying events. They had a twenty
five K super high roller and they had a ten thousand,
three hundred dollars high roller. In the twenty five K.
Stevens Song topped sixty entries to win almost four hundred
and forty thousand dollars. This is now officially Song's best
year ever on the Live Felt in terms of tournament winnings.
In twenty twenty two he won two million, two hundred
and eighty two thousand dollars. This year he's up to
two million, five hundred and thirty two thousand dollars in winnings.
Also this year, of course, Tim and I talked about
it at length, you know, during the run, because we
did daily podcast from the World Series of Poker. But
Stephen Song got fifty seventh in the twenty twenty fours
BE Main event for one hundred and sixty K. Then
he went on to win EPT Barcelona for one point
twenty nine million euros aka one million, four hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars. At the twenty five k NAPT
Las Vegas Super high Roller Final table, it was Song
up on top. He defeated Sean Winter in heads up play.
Winter got two hundred and eighty AK. Then it was
ed Sebesta third place, Jim Collopy fourth place, Elias Gutierrez
fifth place, Thomas Etcien sixth place, Brock Wilson seventh place,
mentioning brock Wilson's name again, and then Paul Jagger got
eighth place there big money one of course, lots of
PGT points up for grabs in this event. The PGT points,
of course, as it pertains to a twenty five K
buy an event on the PGT are point six to
the dollar. So Tim and I will talk about how
this implemented her changed up the PGT leaderboard a little
bit later on. But Stephen Song taking it all down
four hundred and forty k, tremendous year for him, and
it continues. Would expect more things, you know, he won,
he won the WPT Prime.
Speaker 2: Was it last year?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Two years ago?
Speaker 2: Two years ago?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I would expect he's back in at the
win in December, so his year probably not done, you know,
so so yeah. And then over in the ten K
high Roller, one hundred and seventy entries, hell up, good lord,
Sam's overall top of the field there to win three
hundred and eighty five thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars,
his third PGT win of the season, his ninth PGT
victory overall in history, his tenth PGT cash this season. Also,
this win did push him into the top four of
the leaderboard again. We'll discuss that a little bit more later.
He defeated Nick Sewart in heads up play. Seward got
two hundred and forty one K for second place. Sewart
is enjoyed quite the breakout year on the poker. Felts also,
you know, taking his career to the next level in
terms of you know, firing at some high rollers and
battling there and seeing some success. Barry wood Woods excuse me,
got third, David Coleman got fourth, Valentine Shall Bennick got fifth,
Adam Adler sixth, Danny Wong seventh, and Brian Altman took eighth.
You got any thoughts there? Pretty good turnouts? What do
you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exceptional turnout. I'm a big believe of that.
Speaker 1: Exceptionally exceptional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and seventy exceptional.
Speaker 1: Well what about the sixty for the twenty five k?
Is that also exceptional?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's very good too. I think when you have
these series, and we saw this last yea at NMPT,
when you have a high roller at the end, you
get a lot of people playing up, you know, up
to the buy and because you know they'd be the
bus of the main event or they've cashed the main event,
got some extra money, or they just want to try
and get on stock, so you know, the selling pieces
taking shots, So you get a lot of plays in
these events that you would never normally come for a
high roller series of the same buying price point. So
you always know that this, like you know, backup schedule
ten K is always going to be huge and yeah
shout one hundred and seventy entrants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with you. You know, like if you
were to draw a parallel to what we do on
the PGT for example, you know, like say, whoa, why
don't we get one hundred and seventy entries in our tenks? Well,
it's just it's just a different series, as Tim pointed out,
where it takes like kind of one caliber of player,
one size of bank role to come out to play
like the entire Poker Masters versus you're coming out to
play napt Las Vegas. You're gonna fire like the eleven
hundred dollar run good Open, You're gonna fire the main event.
You're going to play some of these small assidements, and
then you're going to take like your one or two
shots in the ten k, maybe the twenty five k, right,
So that that's just how it's approached versus if you're
coming out for again, let's say the poker masters, right,
there's not like that small stuff to play and then
you take a shot. So so yeah, I mean, I
I you know, I love the five K price point,
and I think it's absolutely positively wide open in the
US and somebody needs to take it. Maybe that'll be
the NAPT, maybe it won't, who knows.
Speaker 2: Yeah you say no, I was going to mention about
the five K price point. You know, we've heard of
other locations potentially for NAPT in North America. I'm just
wondering if some of these other locations, like whether it's
on Ontario, Michigan and Pennsylvania or whatever, can they could
they sustain a five K price point, because I think
it too should have wherever the n APT goes, it
should continue the cadence of a five k main event.
But can those other markets support that price point, you know,
even a something close to that guarantee.
Speaker 1: So I mean, let's let's let's do some sketching here
where where. So I see two ways for the n
APT to go. One is the five K price point.
Speaker 4: You have.
Speaker 1: Let's say four events a year. I just don't know
if there's more venue slash locations that you can work
with that can support a five K. So you do,
you know, essentially quarterly events right at the five K
price point, make them like this, I could. I would
even say that you could probably extend them to be
like two weeks long as opposed to ten days, so
cram more stuff in there. So I think that's that's
kind of like path A that they could go down.
The other path that I think that they could go
down is have a lot of nap events, be like
last year's and then the Las Vegas one is their
quote unquote Grand Final, which is kind of what you
did with the EPT years ago, Like all the epts
were five k's and then you had the Monte Carlo
Grand Final was the ten k. Right, yeah, so you
could you could do that. And I mean, listen, I
love the five K price point, don't get me wrong,
but I also know that like the the fifteen hundred
dollars price point, like the regional mid major tour price
point is freaking booming in the US, like, you know,
so you could do something where it's like, I don't know,
five to six of those and more markets can support that,
and then they all kind of play into this grand
final event in Las Vegas, the big destination. It closes
the season, like all that sort of stuff, right, So
I think that that could could work, and you could
you could also maybe shift the napt Las Vegas window
to be closer to December, if not in December, where
then you draw in everything that's happening in December in Vegas.
Speaker 2: No, I go the other way. I think it needs
to be further away from December because we see this.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on what I'll say that that's not bad,
Like it can't. Like I feel like this window is
kind of weird because it's like maybe some people wait
to just come back in two three weeks for the
wind and all that sort of stuff, right, So, like
I agree with you, it kind of needs to go
further away or closer like one or the other, like
the weird middle ground. You know, it's a little weird.
Speaker 2: But anyway, continue I think it's I think the window
is fine because of one reason. They now own this window.
They own the first two weeks of November. They did
it last year, they did it this year. Nothing has
stepped on their toes. You know, let's say I'm going
to organize an event for November next year, Well, I'm
going to wait or at least, you know, do some
digging about napt first, because they've kind of planted their
flag so they can own this window. I think it's
just enough away from win, you know, basically three weeks
where people can go home and come back if we
went if the festival was any longer, then yeah, you
have these people are going to have these decision points
that do I want to stay even though it's f one,
it's going to be expensive. I would honestly say go
earlier if you're going to move it at all. But
they've planned the flag. Let them just own this two
weeks in November. And I do love your idea of
having more like a feeder. You know, you could go
to Michigan, Ontario, Pennsylvania at a fifteen hundred price point,
you could do maybe they can find partnerships in you know,
Florida or in California, wherever Texas, who knows, and continue
this kind of like tier two buy in price point,
but also feeds. You can run extensive satellites, you know,
like ten C guarantees or ten package guarantees at these stops,
and you know, you can kind of build the narrative
towards the Vegas main event, where hey, we've qualified you know,
thirty forty fifty people from all these stops around the country,
plus everyone online, plus all these promotions we're doing, et cetera,
and you can start thinking, wait, we did three million
dollar prize will guarantee this year, Let's do four million.
You know, this is our plan to get to four
million next year. We're going to do five million. Here's
our plan, and kind of make it. Build it, you know,
really build a big tour. Because I think a lot
of people love the stop. They loved how the ballroom looked.
It's obviously it's I think I think players in general
want to experience new things. You know, we saw our
players skip events to go play random stuff in Asia
and Taiwan and Australia, et cetera, just to do something different.
And I think this having this in Vegas is different
to World Series, it's different to win, it's different to
PGT and players want to experience something slightly different every
now and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think now, after like hearing you talk
a little bit more on it, and you sit in
here kind of lean on it a little bit. I
lean going the essentially sixteen to fifty price point, right,
I would bang out having an event in Michigan because
you're there, having an event in Pennsylvania because you're there,
having an event in New Jersey because you're there. That's three.
Then you can probably find a few others, you know,
a few other regions to support that price point, which
I think is easily doable within the States. You know,
you can probably go north of the border to Canada
to and find something there, and then it all kind
of converges on Las Vegas as that sort of grand
final event. I would also loop in some sort of
NABT online series. You know, you can start doing that.
So so yeah, that's that's probably what I would I
would target. So yeah, I guess free consultation if they're listening, yeahl.
Speaker 2: Up, col up, we'll help you because you know, I
I look, I know we're going to touch on some
other windows, but I guess while we're on this, I
think the biggest hole is the scheduling, and I know
that has a lot you know, they have a lot
of bit of a European influence on that, and that
doesn't fit ourn market. You know, Leon has a bit
of a say too. But with some small tweaks, I
think that their schedule could be really good. You know,
we looked at the earlier events. They had a five
kplow that overlapped everything and that didn't perform that well.
You can easily shift that early or late. Just some
small tweaks with the bigger mind stuff could make it
a really popular series for people to skip a triton,
you know, or skips like actually make the trip to
come out and you know, throwing two trips to Vegas
when you factor in you know, the win in December.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean I took some notes being there.
You know, I played three events. I was there probably
six seven days. I don't even know the first note.
Literally look down hand number one and I'm already like
somewhat tilted because I peel back the cards and they're
jumbo index cards and I want to throw them across
the room. It didn't even bother me once to be
hop well, then you just must be a senior citizen.
I probably don't why it doesn't you know, why it
doesn't bother you because you are the mix you are
the resident mixed game guy on the podcast. So jumbo
face cards they are better for mixed games because when
you're trying to play seven cards, doesn't look across the
table at your opponent's board, it's easier to see them.
Can plo, What what are we doing with jumbo face cards.
Speaker 2: I prefer the normal cards, especially in mixed games. And
please don't judge me, but you will everyone out there
because people make more mistakes. And I think that's a
part of the game. I think that is I think
that is part of like poker, that you know, not
not covering cards, but just like if you can't see
that it's a club or a spade, that's kind of
on you. And if you make a bad mistake, that's
your fault.
Speaker 1: Like blind people all.
Speaker 2: Good as the guy you're wear glasses right now?
Speaker 1: I like these are these are blue like blocking.
Speaker 2: They're not okay actual I like the normal cards, but
like the jumper, don't bother me anyway here as much
as you obviously.
Speaker 1: They're just it's just like you try and peel and
they're just so big, and.
Speaker 2: Like peel them. Maybe you're just good appealing.
Speaker 1: What no I don't. I don't. I like to look
at my hands in a nice concealed manner. I don't
want these jumble cards in my face.
Speaker 2: Like. It's just no, you need to work on your
appealing That's what I'm gonna say. It's just problem. I
can do the double cover, the single whatever.
Speaker 1: And hasn't hasn't do they use? Who do they use?
I think they use Copek because hasn't. Yeah, because they
were branded Kopek on the back. It doesn't. I think
Faded Spade came out with like a middle index.
Speaker 2: Not that that's just stupid.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying it. If if they're so
dead set on using the jumbos, we'll go a little
bit smaller. So yeah, anyway, Uh, the chip colors that
they got to fix resorts, I mean, they're just some
of them are too close, very close. They certainly well.
Part of the reason why they're close to begin with. Okay,
part of the reason why they look even closer is
because the Poker Star's tables. One, the feld blends in
with a lot of them. Two, the neon light strip
on the tables you can tell which section also like
then affects the colors of the chips to the eye,
so it all kind of makes things blend together. Late
rich tables were interesting. So I played the eleven hundred
dollars Run Good Open, I played the fifty three hundred
dollars main event, and I played the five to fifty
napt Cup. I'm in the eleven hundred dollars main event.
I'm texting with some friends. I was there for hand
number one. They're like, how's the field. I'm like, gret
I don't know anyone at my table. They come our
hour and a half late. They're at a table with
like a lot of known players, much much more difficult tables.
Same thing happened in the main event. Like I show
up for hand number one, there's kind of a section
where there's maybe eight to ten tables and it all
looks extremely soft, and then all the late rich people
that walked in, it's like, you know, Eric Sidell, this person,
that person like, and they all just did it like
the same table and the same table. So it was
like pretty clear that if you late REGs you went
to a certain section of the room and sat there. Yes,
that's not really good.
Speaker 2: I have a theory on this, but continue, No.
Speaker 1: What's your theory. I mean, that's all I gotta say.
They need to fix that.
Speaker 2: So obviously you may know that it doesn't matter. The
way they do the registration for upstairs isn't through Poker
out lists, which is obviously a Results World product for
those that didn't play they use.
Speaker 1: Well that's not true. You go to sign up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me finish first.
Speaker 1: DESK gets poker atleas then it transfers to.
Speaker 2: K hold Yes, so but K hold them. What I'm
saying is that's where you get your allocated your seat.
K hold them is a European product. So we're obviously
liking care about late Regin and we're probably looking at
this from a American perspective. Maybe in Europe, this is
how it's done and this is how they like it
or prefer it. So they haven't adjusted here when they
came here. So I'm not going to put it all
on Results World. I'm wondering if this is just the
way the kind of K holder maps built and the
way they are accustomed to doing registration in Europe, because
K hold them is the number one, you know, the
number one kind of product for tournament registration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm not necessarily trying to put anything
on anyone. I'm just saying these are areas for improvement.
Speaker 2: I registered for one event with with Mike Patrick, fellow
poker media member, and we both at the same table,
and like it was with I.
Speaker 1: Mean, like I'm playing in the main event, you just
see like three people like I see like Eric's Adel doing,
Lindy Tristan Wade walking they all just sit at the
same table. Yeah, the next three notables walk in, they
also did the same table. Like it just happened over
and over again. So it's like what you know, I mean,
part of it is like the most important you gradulate, regulate, right,
and like it's it's obviously better to be there on
time if this is what's going to happen, but it
should be pretty.
Speaker 2: Equal, right, Yeah, it should be. And you know, I
think WSP had a lot of you know, negative comments
about their late registration process a couple of years ago,
and they've done a lot to make it a lot
better now. Obviously we do hours a certain way, but
we have the benefit of a smaller kind of playpool
and can do whatever we want. But yes, I definitely
agree with you, especially in the five K main event.
All the high role was they need to kind of
do a fairer process for the late registration.
Speaker 1: You touched on like some some scheduling sort of stuff.
Like the first thing that stuck out to me is
the twenty five K overlapped the main event like start
days entirely, you know, because it ended on that second one.
Because I was, I played, I played, there was the
main e. It had three starting flights over two days.
The first it had one A, then it had one
B and one C on the same day. I played
one B. So on the second day and they were
finishing the twenty five K. So yeah, I wouldn't you
want those players to get in there and blast maximum
entries in the main event. So I thought that was
a little interesting and maybe you maybe you delay that
to the back end. I also, I mean you you
and I know from covering or from doing the PGT
that I mean, you can do a twenty five K
two days. You don't need a three day tournament like
you you know, just you can just do it and
get it over with. So I thought that that was interesting.
Some of the start times caused some congestion at registration,
you know, for example, when I started the main event
on Wednesday, it started at eleven am. I was in
the registration line, and there was also it started at
eleven am a six hundred dollars satellite for the main event.
So it's like, you know, there's people registering for both.
You definitely want to get people butts in the seats
for the main event, so maybe don't schedule that as time.
And then the on Friday. Was it Friday when they
had the napt Cup the first day? Yeah? Yeah, they
had four flights for the napt Cup, one A and
one B around Friday, one C and one D were
on Saturday. On Friday, they had one A started at
eleven or twelve, I can't remember exactly, but then at
at two or two thirty they started an eleven hundred
dollars tournament, and then at five or six they started
the second flight of the five fifty. I don't really
understand that, especially when the five point fifty has a
three hundr k guarantee on it, It's like you want
to drive everyone into that to hit that one. So
so yeah, another this is a weird one that I
wrote down, and it happened every single day that I played,
but people asked for drinks like alcohol. The bar didn't
open till four o'clock, which is extremely weird. I mean,
we're not in Utah, We're in Vegas. Okay, We're not
at church. We're playing a poker tournament in a casino, Okay.
So you know, there was a bunch of times when
people were like, hey, can I get a beer or whatever,
and they were just like, yeah, well the bar isn't
open till four.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little weird. Dealers and staff
are incredible. I didn't have a single dealer that I
even thought was like questionable. A lot of them were
like the best WSP dealers is like what you saw,
which is you know, having been on the ept A lot,
you know like those are some of the best dealers
in the world, if not the best dealers in the world.
And that very much translated here. You know, they got
the best dealers, They had very good floor staff. The
room it was a different conference room this year, much bigger.
It was tremendous. I mean you walk in, it's like, Wow,
the branding is the best branding I've seen at a
poker tournament in Las Vegas ever. Hands down. I mean,
there's nothing that beats it. The only thing that I
think would could rival it, and this is going to
sound like a home or take, is probably the Poker
Gro Studio. But that's because you know, it's smaller, it's
more confined. We can control it a little bit more
versus them doing this massive, you know, thirty forty thousand
square foot conference. I mean, it was awesome. The only
thing that I would change about the conference room itself
is the back part of the conference room had this
sort of crescent shaped window that spanned the entire thing.
And you know, obviously because of the I think because
of the TV filming that was happening, they had to
keep the drapes on it and not have the windows open.
But I just kept thinking in my head, like this
is kind of giving me Monte Carlo vibes because they
have massive windows. Sometimes they open the roof in Monte
Carlo to start the day, and there was a sweet
balcony out there that that over that you could see out,
like you could see the wind Venetian like other parts
of the strip, Like it had a really good view.
So like I would like to see them utilize that
a little bit more so maybe keep that open, maybe
even you know, put some high top tables out there
and people can go outside. Like I thought that would
have been really cool to utilize that space as well.
But the room was was nuts, like the whole Like
every time I go to the Resorts World and I
probably said this last here, but like I feel like
it just doesn't get the love that it deserves. It's
so freaking nice, and it's it's on the strip, but
it's off the strip. You know, We're like you don't
have to go into the heart of the strip and
like deal with all that sort of stuff. Like in
a lot of ways, I was thinking I was walking
through there, and I was like, this fucking conference space
is first of all, it's incredible, Like even in the
hallways of the conference space, like they have like four
K digital led walls like promoting stuff and like and
that that wasn't like that's not the Poker Stars thing,
like that's just on in the building of resorts.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say there quickly is just
I would put a tournament clock in the hallways for breaks,
because all the tournament clocks were in the tournament room.
But I would put something outside that you know, yeah, sure, yeah,
sure no. But I was thinking, like as I'm walking
through there and like I would do long walks on
break and whatever, and I'm like, these guys should have
bought the WSP, I mean, you know, and brought it there.
I mean because then you like you're away from the
strip and like enough that like it's not that big congestion,
like you could have brought a lot of business there,
Like I thought that would have been pretty cool. But anyway, Yeah,
the Resorts World, I think is awesome. A lot of
good food options there, It's quick, it's easy to get
in and out of. You know, they do the free
parking if you have your your player's card and all
that sort of stuff. So I got a lot of
European Poker Tour vibes. Obviously they have a lot of
EPT going through the Blood with with a lot of
those people coming over and having hands on the NAPT product.
But but yeah, I mean it looked it looked great
last year. It looked even better this year, which I
feel like is hard to achieve, you know, when you
when you set the bar so high to start. So
kudos to Poker Stars, the NAPT and resorts worlds for
all of that, and yeah, I hope it comes back
next year. I would probably make it two weeks long,
you know, a little bit longer, and I wouldn't be
starting the main and on a Tuesday, just me. I mean,
that's you know how I feel about You know how
I feel about that you start if you have two
starting flights Friday Saturday, if you have three Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
You know how I feel about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, but I feel like that's it.
Speaker 1: That's a European thing, like it just doesn't matter. You
just start whenever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. So my comments, Uh, you
don't need three days for a hirollap but I think
that's a very much a pocus I was thing. So
that's fine. I just you need to shift that twenty
five k for this year. You could have started it Friday,
Saturday Sunday. Now I know they don't want to play Sunday,
but it's a final table, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: You could also do like two and a half days,
like start the high Roller, like six pm, play till
ten pm on day one, like something like that. Like
I'm saying, if they want longer play, then three days, Like,
that's probably how you would do it, where but still
have the thing where like people don't need to show
up to day two if they don't want to, like,
you know, all that sort of.
Speaker 2: Would If let's say we keep the Tuesday main event
day just for this example, I would have done Friday, Saturday,
Sunday for the twenty five k. Right, you can still
run the five fifty mystery bountie. It's a completely different
player field. On the Monday Tuesday, you could do your
five k plo right instead of doing it on the
Tuesday where it overlaps a bunch of other stuff. Yeah,
it's very obvious that, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, let me let me tell you guys that I
would say that they would probably move to three day
ones for the main event last year on separate days
and not do that last one. That's kind of a
quote unquote turba flight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be in mind when you're Yeah,
they're going to be pigeonholed to the like. Look how
they started. They started November. It's like they didn't want
to start on October thirtieth. They wanted to start November first.
So if we look at this, if we look at
November calendar next year. November first is a Saturday, so
and that does that mean they're going to end on
Sunday the ninth, So series is going to be essentially
a day shorter or are they going to go into
that second week? Are they going to out a little later?
Speaker 1: So no, go for two weeks.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess also we have to ask when
F one is. But yeah, you can have some manipulation.
I agree with you with the main event stuff. At
a five K price point, it's not that huge having
to start on weekends, but it's always going to help.
Obviously you're gonna have to figure out filming and how
they want to kind of schedule that and go kind
of work you know how we always talk we schedule
the main and work backwards. So schedule the five K
main schedule the big game stuff, and then start filling
in the gaps. Like I think some of their events
were great.
Speaker 1: Let me November twentieth through twenty second. Is F one
next year?
Speaker 2: Okay? So then go definitely go into that second week
into that third week of November.
Speaker 1: I like this year, by the way, that it wasn't
as close to f it was last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, five fifty napt Cup was a success.
The one k run good was success, mister BOWNI great,
But like you said, they had a five to fifty,
they also had a one k. That's the same player pool.
I think two hundred and fifty and three hundred and
sixty dollars unlimited entry, nine time events. Some of those
I think they need to fix. Like, you don't need
to overlap. I'm not sure you really need those three.
Speaker 1: Sixty seven events running. I felt like eight events run
just non stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot, but I think the schedule was
better this year. But there's definitely a lot of work
that can be done to make it like a perfect schedule.
And if you make it a perfect schedule, you're going
to have more people coming. Like, there's a lot of
people that didn't come that you would normally play these
type of events. So a little couple of tweaks, maybe
hire me and I'll help you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, overall, really really good stop. You know,
a lot of momentum from year one to year two
that was gained, and I would love for them to
just carry that momentum over you know, I don't really
think they need to do anything with the guarantee.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would just go up to three and
a half. Very subtle change.
Speaker 1: Does that even matter?
Speaker 2: I think it looks I think it looks good.
Speaker 1: Like when you look at that as if you go
three to five.
Speaker 2: No, I think I think any any forward step is
a good step. Don't do WPT and like run a
marathon just one step thirty, you don't do that, just
three to four. They could go to four.
Speaker 1: It's not that WPT ran a marathon. It's that they
tried to run a marathon as Usain Bolt, like, yeah,
that's what they do.
Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. They could go
to four million, as long as you're going to tell
me that, hey, we're going to put as many people
in or give away as many of those what are
they called gold passes.
Speaker 1: Old passes of which they qualified one hundred and fifteen
gold pass winner. Shout up Pete Johnson, the Pokerg go
Ano subscriber who won his. I would say you can.
I would say you can confidently go to five million
if if if you have to, I would say you
have to get the gold pass number up to two
hundred to two fifty and then I would also like
to resets. Yeah, and then I would also like to
see that paired with the like the introduction of like
doing like those regional stops, like making it more of
a tour, right, and then.
Speaker 2: I think that's season four. I think that's going to
happen next year. But two hundred. If you want to
go to five million, you need two hundred go passes.
If you want to go to four million, I think
you can do it with one hundred again, like at
least the one fifteen, but just be just make a
better schedule, really make it attractive for people to come
instead of like going to a WSP circuit or just
saying I'll wait till the win. You know, you have
to make it like I can't misstop and that.
Speaker 1: The counterpoint to that would be that they did because
there was a lot of like European players that came
over to play this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking more about the Americans, Like I'm looking
at people's socials and saying that they're not here or
like choosing to play other events, et cetera. And it's
like we need them to play. You know, if you
want to go to four million, don't go to five please,
don't go to five.
Speaker 1: I mean five is plenty safe for me.
Speaker 2: Oh it might be safe, but it's like it's a
let's just let's just build it. Baby steps that is
that is no baby step is four million? Five million
is too big of a step. You like jumping over
a puddle that's like three ft. It's like, oh, well,
I will I cross or not?
Speaker 1: Five million is easy but easy. They ain't gonna be
five million. They'll get five point eight in the prize.
Bol no sweat.
Speaker 2: Sure they can do ten million. As long as you
tell me how many gold pass.
Speaker 1: That's where that's where, that's where you make the mistake.
The WPT you're three to ten questionable.
Speaker 2: Of course I think three to five is questionable. My
point is you're going to tell me how many three
I need to know how many gold pass winners they're
going to do. That's the important part that that attracts
the people to come. So you need to give me
a gold pass on like you've gotta have to promise
me x gold pass winners and then you can choose
the guarantee on that.
Speaker 1: I always wondered why stops like this for example, you
know other stops like the wind can do it in December,
et cetera, Like they don't run satellites for the next
year's event.
Speaker 2: I actually asked them this and they said, may.
Speaker 1: Just having it like that could be part of it.
Speaker 2: May because players don't really want to sit on like
five k inequity for a whole yea, I would.
Speaker 1: I would say the players that are concerned with that
are not the players that you're worried about. But like
sure random gold pass winner that's there that won't be
there again that maybe he.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean during the series. Yeah, like, oh, I thought
you meant like throughout the year at results. Well, no,
I think that's a good idea. I think the last day.
I think Sunday could be like a ten a ten million,
not a ten million, and like a ten seat or
ten package kind of guarantee for next year, you know,
with the caveat that, like if it doesn't run, you
get a refund kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Quickly hitting on some other winners from napt Las Vegas,
Richard Bye won the eleven hundred dollars run Good Open
for sixty eight thousand, five hundred and thirty dollars. This
was a three way ICM chop when they got down
to three handed play. Four hundred and eighty entries in
this one. The event had a four hundred thousand dollars guarantee.
It topped that four hundred and sixty k in the
prize pool. Our good friend Ben Ludlow took fifth place
for just under twenty four thousand dollars in the twenty
two hundred dollars Nolam that hold him deep Stack. This
had a pretty good turnout, two hundred and twenty four entries,
four hundred and ten thousand dollars in the prize will
Alexandro Trick Courico won at all I probably butchered that
last name. Sorry, Alexandro. Eighty six thousand, eight hundred dollars
for him for winning that one. And then we had
the NAPT Cup. Ares Klein won it for fifty seven
two hundred and seventy dollars, also a three way chop
here three hundred thousand dollars guaranteed. In this five hundred
and fifty dollars buy an event with one thousand and
six entries, four hundred and eighty four thousand dollars in
the prize school I was two of those entries. Tim
was one. Tim cashed. I did not. Tim got eighty
first for twelve one hundred dollars. Way to go, sir,
Thank you, There to go. Just incredible stuff. It helps
when you just make the nuts right out of the gate.
Speaker 2: And it was, yeah, it was. I literally played five
hands in one and the half days of program. Well
like not even lying.
Speaker 1: It was very much on brand for you. Yeah, on brand.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I was gonna give you some shit, by the way,
but I can't. You're the resident mixed game guy on
this podcast. That's why I was pushing you so much
to play some of these mixed game tournaments.
Speaker 2: I hate him. Now I'm done. I'm retiring.
Speaker 1: Well, then that means you're retiring your brand. Your image
is the mix game guy, You're just one.
Speaker 2: I got a new image. It's cowboy cowboy. Well, that's
just these mixed game tournaments. I love playing him, I
love playing mix I think I'm okay. The problem is
like that, like even in the five what did I
play the five fifty whole or Heroes, you know, it
has like eighty ninety players, like they just they just
don't get enough, Like the prize was not big enough.
Like come World Series. You can play a fifteen hundred
horse or something.
Speaker 1: That's fine, it's the World Series. What are you expect?
Speaker 2: No, it's not that. It's just like, if I'm going
to spend five to fifty on an eighty player tournament,
I would rather spend five to fifty or essentially two bullets,
because I was always going to play the Cup. I
have two bullets to play a thousand player tournament where
I can win eighty K instead of winning potentially five K.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the way. I just not your brand.
Speaker 2: I'm changing my brand. We're having a rebrand, a rebirth.
Speaker 1: Life crisis, the whole rebranding. I get it. So the
hell with mixed games. All the mixed game people out
there who believe Tim is their their champion, he is
no longer your champion. He is stepping down. It's coming
over to the big bet streets. Okay, that's what he's doing.
Speaker 2: I will always champion for mixed games. I just will
not be attending. I'm the resident in and then not
a ten. I am the best no limit hold him player.
Speaker 1: On this podcast, you were telling me some of your hands.
Speaker 2: So that's I'm saying, Look, hey, I cashed an napt
you didn't so therefore I am the current.
Speaker 1: Because I play like an idiot. Okay, I mean I
don't play like an idiot, but I actually I want
to talk about the main event because it was very
weird for me. So the table to start was tremendous.
I mean, I had one good player at my table,
Mike Leang. Other than that, like a bunch of qualifiers,
one guy said. One guy sat down and asked, and
he was I mean, he was one thousand percent dead series.
First of all, he raised to twenty five hundred on
the first hand because because the chip colors were like
messing with him. Then he asks is he's He said
something along lines of like, so when do when do
we win the DUBSTB main event seat huh? It made
no sense when he was asking, but he was so
like genuine about it. He's like, oh, somebody was like,
oh no, you don't like this is the napt He's like, oh,
I thought, I thought this is like to get into
the main event, to earth to the WSP main Event.
We were like, what are you what? No, okay, anyway,
but everything was fine at my table, you know, I
was playing my normal game. Then Dan Moran gets moved
there and he's just he's just like like I talked
about Nick Marchington earlier, just a young British kid. He
just absolutely gets after it in every single pot. So
goddamn frustrating to have this kid at your table I
played with, I played with both of both these players.
Got moved to my table on the WPT ten k
at the win last year late on day one, and
it was just a headache. You're just handcuffed all the
time trying to play with these guys. I mean, yeah,
you can battle with them, but it's like do you
really want to do that on a day one? And
you know, so I just always felt like Dan was
like just trying to get the better of me, like
no matter what, and like, you know, willing to go
and see it any pots, which is fine, you know,
don't get me wrong, but it just when he's two
to your left, it just puts you in a lot
of tough spots. Anyway, At one point I had the
levels on day ROMs for sixty minutes we come back
from break. I played this stretch, a two hour stretch
when I probably v pipped eighty five percent. Every fucking
hand that I was dealt was like Jack ten or better.
It was Jack ten to queens. I never had kings
or aces in this stretch, but it was seriously one.
At one point, I raised seven hands in a row
and I was like, these guys are gonna think I'm
full of shit. And I just kept looking down at
like Ace Queen. I was like what, like what this
is out of control? Like what I can't like I remember,
I think it was like the fourth or fifth hand.
I look down and I see King jack off and
I think I was in the hijack, and I was like,
I should just fold because my image right now it's
like the crazy guy and I'm raising every hand and
like I think two maybe three of the hand I
three bet on, Like I was just constantly playing, and
it's not that I was winning every hand. My my
chipstack looked like a freaking heart rate monitor because like
I would win the hands post flop, like I was like,
there was a lot of people entering the pots against me, yes,
you know, and then it would just depend on what
happened post flop and you go from there and like
some hands I would win, some I would lose and whatever.
So you know, but I think they they thought that
I was just fucking crazy. Then I go on break
and I come back and I don't think I played.
I don't think I entered. Sorry, I did enter one
pot for the next like three hours, and I opened
as jack off and got three bet big and folded
and that like that was it. So it was like
very weird that like all of my hands that I
was getting dealt were condensed into this one two hour
window and then after that I didn't have anything. It
was like I was getting dealt out at the table.
So it's just a very weird situation.
Speaker 2: I had one stretch like that where yeah, and our
friend Yohan came over to like talk to me, and
I played like six hands in a row and he's like,
I've done think I've ever seen you v pip that much?
And you laugh. I got I haven't.
Speaker 1: I remember. I raised like it was like maybe like
the six or seventh hand of this like one stretch
when I raised every hand in a row and I
looked down and I saw jack ten suited and I
literally like just shook my head and then threw in
the rays like I shook my head, like these guys
are just not gonna fucking believe that I have a
hand again, like you know, and I almost wanted to
be like I have it every fucking time, Like I
don't know what you want me to say. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jack tenns in a hand just if.
Speaker 1: Jack ten suited at a six handed table. We were
six handed during this whole stretch. Well, they play eight handed,
which is tremendous. Yeah, love it, But we were six
handed for like this entire two hour stretch. So you know,
you just have to just get in there and get
after it, like.
Speaker 2: Can I I'm need to make one comment about this
eight handed play. Do I feel like the cup holders
are in the wrong spot? Because all of these tables
have in built like cup holders you swing for those
way they they're under the table, we kind of swinging.
I feel like they're in the wrong spot. Do you
feel the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably are. I mean I don't use.
Speaker 2: Them, so I used them a few times.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not only times to pull it
out for my like the charger that's in them. Yeah,
I mean the tables are great. Don't get that, but yeah,
I agree, they're probably Do they have only eight underneath
or do.
Speaker 2: They have like nine they have they have eight, but
it's like yesterday I was in the my first I
was in the eighth seat and I felt like it
was in such an awkward position where I had to.
Speaker 1: See it's in a weird spot. I was in the
eight sees as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even some of the other seats, I was like,
it's not it doesn't feel.
Speaker 1: The other seats. It makes it seem like is this
my cup holder? Is this?
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, I move it.
Speaker 1: I have to like ask you to move your stomach
because I might hit you, like you know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah that's what.
Speaker 1: But uh but yeah. Also the structure of the main
event was almost too good. I mean, you play the
last level on day one, you play the same level
back to back, so it's essentially a two hour level.
Speaker 2: Then the cop as well though yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then well in the in the eleven hard
all run good. I mean you played I think you
play five hundred on thousand or maybe it's six twelve
one K fifteen hundred, but you play two levels back
to back, so essentially two levels across you know whatever,
two hours or whatever the heck it was. But they
almost seem too good.
Speaker 2: You know, you need a bus. You need to bust
some people so they re enter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, for sure, especially in the main event.
I thought it was weird because you play that last
blind level as essentially a two hour level, and then
you essentially revert to ninety minute levels for the next day.
Ye So don't you want people firing in that last
level to then because you could re enter until the
start of day two exactly, So that I feel like
there you would you would definitely just want to just
just go from one to the other. And plus you're
already playing sixty minute levels. I mean, it's it's a
good it's a good structure as is. You know, you know,
this doesn't have to draw out for for a week,
all right. Keeping it in the Poker Stars family. Some
more news came out of their camp in that they
signed Jason Kuhn and Caitlin Komeski as Poker Stars Ambassadors.
So Jason Kuhn is what the high roller of high rollers.
I saw him walk in for the twenty five K
and I was like, what are you doing here? Aren't
you a triton thing? He's like, no, I'm still a Triton.
But there's some news coming all the whole. Couple days later, boom,
the little press event is held and Jason Kuhn gets
announced as the newest Poker Stars Ambassador. I mean, I
mean Kuhn needs you know, little instruction. He's got almost
sixty million dollars in live tournamentarans plays the absolute biggest
events in the world. Biggest tournament's also biggest cash games.
He's been on High Sakes Poker, he was on they
did some filming of the Big Game on tour. He
was in one of the lineups there, stuck around to
do some of that stuff, and then he jetted off
to Trenton, where he is right now. And then Caitlyn Kameski,
you know, she's in I would I would classify her
as up and coming player, but also very much in
the content creator space. So she won a Global Porker Award.
Was it a year or two ago? I can't remember it. Yeah,
her best short form content Creator. It was in twenty
twenty three. So she joins the team as well. I
love Caitlin stuff. I think she's super funny. When she
puts out those those short short form pieces of content,
mostly video on social media, I think they're a freaking
riot I've played with her a bunch. She's an absolutely
riot at the table as well, so good on her
for being able to, you know, I guess, leverage the
content into in ambassadorship with Poker Stars, and I'm excited
for things to come from her in that regard. I'm
pretty sure I know what we're getting from Kuon. You know,
not to downplay that signing, but yeah, Koon of course
was recently with or I don't know how recently, but
Gigi Poker left them, has maintained his spot with Triton,
which he still has, and now he joins Poker Stars
and then Kaitlyn Kameski also on board. Do you have
any thoughts or.
Speaker 2: I was very surprised by both names, to be honest,
it looks like, you know, Stars is you know, making
a shift here in North America, and you know, you
want to player that's well respected plays high roller events
going to be a great ambassador at Jason Kuhn's top
of that list. You know, if they're all in on
content creation, that pool of content creators is pretty small.
But Kaitlin's one of the you know, the one of
the top ones there. So no, I think it's two
great signings. I just will see, let's see what they're
kind of haveing have planned for them over the next
year leading up to the next napt All.
Speaker 1: Right, here's Tim talking with Jason Kuhn about joining Team
Poker Stars.
Speaker 2: Jason, congratulations announced today part of Poker Stars. You've been
part of other companies before. What separates Poker Stars from
from everyone else?
Speaker 3: Well, the presence here is pretty amazing. Them making an
effort to have more with American poker tours really exciting.
As an American poker player, like I was saying, you know,
fresh out of college, coming to Vegas my first couple
of poker trips.
Speaker 1: And and.
Speaker 3: Going into stops where you could play on the same
online poker site that sponsored the live live event was
really cool. It gave you ways to satellite in and
gave you opportunities to play tournaments, you know, mainly being
a startup or a starting online poker player like that
was your only way to get into the big buying tournaments. None,
none of us had the bank rolls.
Speaker 1: Did you show up and play a five K Maine?
Speaker 3: So I really love seeing the synergy start to happen again,
and and it gives me a hope for young American
poker players, Like it's kind of been the dark ages
here for you know, if you look around at the
high stakes, almost never do you see a young kid
break through and start playing high stakes that's an American.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very very rare.
Speaker 2: Once in a while you'll see it.
Speaker 3: So it gives me a hope to see, you know,
maybe there'll be a new generation of prodigies coming out
of here.
Speaker 2: So that's really exciting. Obviously, being Vegas, we didn't have
the luxury of playing on Poker Stars right now. Concerned
one day, Yeah, does this punish it with Stars for
you now? I mean maybe someone traveling to play exclusively
online poker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you know I have I really hope,
just from an American standpoint, that I can get the
a loud voice for to expand, help Stars expand in
America and help grow our our market share here. But
of course I'm gonna be playing in Stars whenever I'm
in Europe playing live tournaments, I plan on playing a
couple of BT's a year, and on top of that,
I still will be representing Triton, So when I'm in Triton's,
I'll be playing on Poker Stars. There's gonna be a
lot of ways for me to play online poker again,
which is really exciting.
Speaker 2: Speaking of China, one of the most beautiful setups, you know,
that's what the n ninefold incredible production value. I think
what we've got here at Results World right now is
pretty It's pretty close.
Speaker 3: It's insane. That's set is ridiculous, all led. They can
just make it whatever they want in seconds. They just
give me a tour from behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: Is a major production.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The fact that they ship all this stuff here is insane.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's the production value of Stars has always
been that way. You know, if you go to I
remember playing like EPT Dovil in the middle of France
or just early epts, and that was the one thing
that stood out, was like you felt special walking into
an EPT or a Stars event.
Speaker 2: They really go all out. I've never been to an
APT but I hear a lot of people tell me
that when you step into this ballroom, it feels like
you're out an APT T the same way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, It's it's that same thing. It just feels
really high end. The players are looked after, people are excited.
There's a buzz in the room. You know, they just
do a really good job staging this stuff. Running these
events has to be ridiculously complicated, and they always bring
such a high quality to the events.
Speaker 1: So it's awesome, it's exciting. All right. That was Jason Kuhn.
I mean, listen, I've said this to many of people.
I'll say it again. Jason Kuhn is one of the
most down to earth nicest people in poker. Love the guy.
Even though he recently handed me a fifty dollars bill,
God knows. I mean, it's just absolutely ridiculous that he
did that. But yeah, great, great guy, great stuff. And
he also said, I mean, like I was. I was, like,
you know, I watched all the I wasn't there for
the precedent you were, but I watched a lot of
the interviews and stuff that came out of it. Basically,
how he's talking about next next summer at the w SB,
He's coming hard. Yeah, So does that mean we should
draft him in fantasy? Selfishly speaking, I mean, what does
hard mean? Hard mean? You know, every twenty five K
and higher? Does hard mean he's going to be out
there battling in the five K eight max I mean, like,
what what what is? What does hard mean? I guess
I guess we got to talk to Jason and figure
this out. Yeah, but he's, like he said, he's basically
ready to get after it. I would probably say that,
you know, some of that was maybe family stuff. You know,
has two young kids now, so you know, spend a
little bit more time there. He's already obviously made a
crap ton of money in poker, you know, so plays
a little bit more infrequently these days, but come the
summer next year, it's back to full on blasting. And
if he's putting in, if he puts in twenty plus events,
which I think is a lot, that's a lot for him, right.
But I mean the way he's talking, I mean that
that seems like that would what it would mean twenty
plus events, then I would say he's got a pretty
good shot at winning another bracelet, right, I mean, especially
in the fields that he's in. He's obviously won a
lot of those types of high roll or super high
roller fields, right, you know, obviously they're they're frequented by
a ton of top players. But kun is among the
best of the best, if not the best, so he
can certainly compete there the fields are a little bit small,
or the structures are very good, all that sort of stuff.
So yeah, I would say if you can get if
you can get twenty plus events out of Kuhn, then
I would put him in the camp of probably a favorite,
even money ish to win a bracelet, and yeah, we'll see.
I hope he really does go after it. I really do,
you know. So I've always wanted to, like in a
fantasy world, like take a Jason Kuhn and be like, hey,
you have to play one hundred live poker tournaments a year,
not of a buy and above five thousand dollars. I
just want to see how you do, like go out
play like you know the eleven mspt at fire keepers,
like you know, I want to like, I want to
like what you know, can you have a profitable year
like I mean obviously yes, I mean you know there's
variants of course, but I just I want to see it, right, Yeah,
But anyway, all right, fantasy update quickly, not too much
to hit on, only the fact that you had one
cash from the you had Jim Calby finished I think
the twenty five k.
Speaker 2: Yeah for it.
Speaker 1: There, So I'm still up on PGT points twelve hundred
and seventy five for me, eleven twenty for you. You're up
on wins two to one. I'm up on cashes anyone
to seventeen. Of course, the last little fantasy stretch for
us here is the PGT Texas PLO roundup that's coming
up pretty soon.
Speaker 2: I felt like I ran awful to not get a
couple of cashes there where at Ozma's Collopy.
Speaker 1: Hendrix has enough cashes this year, so don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: I needed one more.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought, I mean, yeah, I ran bad too.
I didn't get anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have a terrible team, you have a
PGT only team.
Speaker 1: Well, a decent shot we would get YACKI and Shulman I.
I didn't know at the time of drafting what Lonas
would do, ye go to Triton or not, but there
there's a good shot that he stays here. I mean
he's from like, you know, there's big buyans on the schedule,
like why go over to whatever? And then I saw
that he was heading over to trit and I was like, oh,
well I lost that one whatever. So yeah, I'm just
I guess trying to play defense. You know I don't
play defense here. Speaking of Jeremy osmus Let's hit on
the PGT leaderboard, Jeremy osmus maintains his lead despite having
no cashes during the NAPT twenty seven hundred and eighty
nine points for him. Notable finishes from the two PGT
qualifying events you have Jim Collaby. He moved up to
seventh with seventeen hundred and twenty one points. He got
fourth in the twenty five K. David Coleman moved up
to nine, so back into the top ten sixteen hundred
and fifteen points for him. He got fourth in the
ten K. Sean Winter who took runner up to Stephen Song.
He got second in that twenty five K, he gets
up to fourteenth thirteen hundred and eighty three points. Sam
Silverll he won the ten K, he gets into thirty third,
so into the top forty one thousand and seventy seven
points for him. And then Scott sever who got sixteenth
in the ten K, so not a big K, but
enough to boost his points to one thousand and twenty
eight and he's now thirty six. So that is the
that's the group of people that are in the top
forty or now in the top forty, because you obviously
have several who moved into the top forty following the
PGT qualifying events at the NAPT and then you also
had brock Wilson, David Stam, Stevensong, who we talked about
at length already, and Nick Seward all had decent results
from either the twenty five K or the ten K,
and they are now what I would call within striking
distance of the top forty. Brock Wilson is the closest
technically outside but also technically in, depending on how you
want to look at it. Because if it ended today,
there are some people in the top forty who don't
have the qualifier of three cases, so those people would
not be qualified. Therefore brock Wilson would be qualified and
he would get in. But let's just look at the
top forty. He's currently in forty eighth place, so he'll
behind that PGT Last Chance Series. David Stam is eighty third,
Stephen Song climbed all the way up to eighty seventh,
and Nick Seward is in one hundred and third. I
would probably expect all of them to be at the
Last Chance Series. Yeah, A win, A couple final tables
probably does it for at least the first three, Wilson,
Stamm and Song. I mean for Wilson, it's probably just
you know, a cash or two and he locks himself
in Seward has a little bit more of an uphill climb,
but you know, one hundred and third place, you know
he can, he can, he can have some results at
that at that last Chance series, So you know, I
would kind of keep an eye on them, and yeah,
I guess also worth noting that Jonathan Tomayo did not
get his third cash, so he's still sitting on too.
He wasn't the napt playing everything. We mentioned his deep run.
I think it was twenty third in the main events,
but that was not PGT qualifying. The twenty five k
and the ten k were so.
Speaker 2: Same with Matthew Ambrush, he played both high rollers. Break
those out and here is he aware? Yeah, he's like
if I break, He told me in person, if I
break this series, I might have to go to Texas.
And he doesn't play and he doesn't love.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Becker also like he was he was like you,
he was like, you guys got me, You got me
with the points, Like I'm out here because he's outside
the top forty trying to get in, so he's you know,
a lot of these guys are are chasing the point.
So I would say we did our job. Like I mean,
I feel like a lot of these guys might have
been at risk to going to Triton, but they stuck around,
you know, and uh, yeah, I think it's it's good,
you know. So so I mean Shaan Winter, for example,
like I thought maybe he would go to Triton. David Coleman.
I always feel like is like on the verge of
going to Triton. Like at some point he's going to
go to Triton, right, I mean, I have no idea
about Sam Sorowell. He could probably go to Triton too.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever been to one, No.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. But like I feel like at
some point, like these these big behind players are just
gonna gonna jump over and go to at least one stop, right,
just kind of take a shot. So but yeah, I thought,
you know, we already talked about the turnouts sixty and
one seventy. Of course a lot of our players were
in the field. So I say our players, like we
own them, we don't own them, but you know a
lot of the PGT regulars were in the field, so
so yeah, good stuff overall. Next up for the PGT
already touched on it, the Texas PLO Roundup. Matthew Lambreckt.
You know, four cards, le'll can't be that much?
Speaker 2: Yeah much?
Speaker 1: I mean how yeah? Well he needs one cat, yes,
So I mean, just he should just max late reds
the main event every single day and just like freaking
folds cat exactly. I mean, it can't be that complicated
to learn how to play PLO, to like just get
yourself into the money of one too. So that series
starts on November sixteenth, that runs through November twenty fifth.
It includes four PGT qualifying events. Of course, the biggest
of the bunch is the thirty three hundred dollars buying
main event, one million dollars guarant teed. There are also
three fifty one hundred dollars PLO high rollers. And then
we also announced the PGT Last Chance Series January second
through twenty ninth, a bunch of ten k's how many
six six six ten ks, all leading into the PGT
Million dollars Championship. So that is coming up on the horizon.
So in terms of the PGT, I guess quiet December
for us, don't have anything running, but that's okay. It'll
be a big January, of course, and then it's gonna
all roll right into the next PGT season. It's gonna
start with the PGT kickoff January twentieth through twenty fifth.
We got the Poker grol Cup announced for February eleventh
through twentieth. PGT Mixed Games is coming back February twenty
fifth through March fifth, brand new Super High rollerbl Mixed Games.
Tim is working hard on this one March sixth through eighth,
planning to be a hundre undred thousand dollars buy in events,
so similar to the Super High Rollable PLO, gonna do
super High Rollable Mixed Games. As I said, Tim is
working hard on it, but also very pushing, very hard
for his Philip Sternheimer, who's like, we might as well
name it the Sternheimer Roller Bowl with the way that
he's pushing this thing. So hopefully, you know, he gets
a good turnout there for sure, largest mix game tournament
in the world right ever, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Gy PPC at the Divis, Yeah, fifty g PPC, So.
Speaker 1: I mean that would be what would what do you
want for entries?
Speaker 2: Three tables would be I was gonna say nice, it's nice. Yeah,
anything of a twenty I think is okay, it's a it.
We just never know. It's so hot to predict.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then we'll have the PGT PLO series, at least
the first edition of the PLO series March twenty fifth
through April fifth, and then the US Poker Open April
eighth through seventeen. So that's what coming up for the
twenty twenty five PGT. Of course, you guys can check
out the schedule and everything PGT related over on PGT
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your time, all right. Triton Poker Series Monte Carlo is
still on going, but some big, big winners come out
of this series. Brian Kim kick things off twenty five
thousand dollars WPT Global Ultimate Slam. WPT Global is now
the presenting sponsor for the Triton Poker Series, so they
named this opening event. Brian Kim won it for nine
hundred and forty one thousand dollars. He's been knocking at
the door for some of these Triton events for a
long time, so finally gets that monkey off his backs.
Alex Foxen traveled overseas I think his first Triton stop.
Him and Kristen are both over there. He won the
fifty thousand dollars no limit eight handed event for one million,
four hundred and seventy thousand dollars. In the one hundred
thousand dollars no limit hold Them event, Peter Aertz, Michael Soyza,
Fader Holtz, and Mario Mosbach chopped it up. I believe
it was a four way chop anywhere between one point
five and two point three million for them, Iyertz two
point two three four million, soye's a two point three million.
Fader Holds one point five million, and Mosbach one point
five million, so they chopped it up there. Patrick Antonius,
the legendary Patrick Antonius, recent inductee into the Poker Hall
of Fame. He won the two hundred thousand dollars Invitational
for a career best score of five million, one hundred
and thirty thousand dollars. This guy still does it, Tim,
It's the best.
Speaker 2: I just wish you played on our events.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a freaking crusher man. It's unbelievable. Yeah,
he looks like he has an aged a day.
Speaker 2: It's yeah wild.
Speaker 1: Nearly twelve million in tournament prize money this year for Antonius,
his best year ever. And then you had Jesse Lonis
winning the fifty thousand dollars Noloman hold Him seven handed
event for just over one point five million dollars. And
then today, just before we hit record, Bryn Kenny won
the one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars buying Triton
Main Event over in Monte Carlo his second Triton main
event title. He won it for four million, four hundred
and ten thousand dollars, and it allowed him to become
the first player in poker history to eclipse seventy million
dollars in live tournament winnings. Holy freaking crap, man, I mean,
this guy like literally shows up for the biggest events
in the world. Only, like I does he play anything
less than a hunter k Yeah, I know I'm exaggerating
hyperbole here, but still, I mean, wild, absolutely wild. He
crushes man, He's the best. Yeah, he's just freaking wild.
How I mean, I mean seventy million? Good lord, I
mean he's got it. I know we talked about it
like a couple of months ago in terms of, like,
you know, who's gonna be the first player to one
hundred million. I mean it has to be him now.
Speaker 2: He's yeah, the favorite, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought he was gonna be a little
bit more few and far between in terms of some scores,
but I guess not. I guess you know, just every
trading poker series, you know, Brin Kenny's just gonna rip
off multimly. They said something on the broadcast after he
won like his average cash and a trating event is
like two and a half million dollars. Fuck a real
stat That's awesome, I mean, good lord. So yeah, so
that is Britny winning the main event. They have some
like they have a one hundred and fifty k that
started now, so there's some other stuff going on. I'm
sure if we have any big winners there, Tim and
I will hit on it. But all the killers are
out there at the Trenton Poker Series over in Monte
Carlo doing their thing. Last topic today, Phil Galfond had
this long, long, long, very long like it might as
well have been an essay on Twitter slash x where
he talked about his idea. So I guess quickly on
some background. So his idea is essentially giving back Rake
or maybe rewarding Rake back in the form of various
types of rewards for the players. And what I mean
by that is so Galfund launched Run It Once Poker.
It didn't work at least it didn't catch on, but
then he ended up selling the platform to Rush Street
Interactive and it all became Bett Rivers Poker in Pennsylvania.
So that is now currently live and running. Bet Rivers
is like a big gaming company, right, it's not just poker.
They have sports, they have casino, all this sort of
stuff and gal funds. I guess Galaxy brain idea is
knowing that if you're part of a big company like
a Bette Rivers, and you have these three verticals casino,
sports and poker, poker is always the lowest on the
total pool, right, Like you just you make less money
from that, there's leftos for revenue, et cetera. It's more
of like, in a way, a marketing tool to get
people into the platform and then maybe you eventually convert
them to casino and sportsbook where you know, you make
a lot more money there the margins are higher, et cetera.
So knowing that, his idea is to essentially take the
rake from the poker and then give it back to
the players in a quote unquote zero rake model where
you reinvest this rake as rewards and they can like
use these rewards, I guess most specifically for casino and
sports books. So it's a way to get people in
through poker and then hopefully convert them to the better
revenue generating models that are casino and sports books through
you know, reading his post, I guess he has three
months to make this happen. You know, basically they gave him,
you know, I mean, Galfund's always extremely transparent. You can
find it on Twitter, you know, just at Phil Galfund
and read all about this. But for the next three
three months, you know, Bette Rivers Poker is going to
run this this zero rake model as sort of a trial,
and they're going to see if they can attract more
players than they originally projected to attract, and then also
convert those players to casino and sportsbook and and and
see if see if that's sort of a better revenue
generating model. I mean, he seems bullish on it. I
don't know if it'll work, but yeah, what what what
are your thoughts hearing everything that I kind of just outlined.
Do you think it's gonna work?
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're giving raak back to players, it's
maybe going to get your play apol to grow, But
how's the company going to survive? Just doesn't you must
have you you you have to have some crazy long
term plan that involves, as you said, converting them to casino,
converting them to sports betting or whatever. I also don't
think you need to give them back all the raake.
You could just have a very good break back program,
because obviously we're.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what they're going to do. So like
a if I pay one hundred dollars in rake at
the end of let's say at the end, I have
no id if this is exactly how it's going to work.
But this is an example. At the end of the week,
I get an email that says, Hey, Donny Peters, you
paid one hundred dollars in rake. You can redeem that
rake back here with a one hundred dollars free bet
on Bett River sports book. So like that's essentially how
this can.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's as attractive as it sounds, though
to poker players. Not every poker player is a I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I I agree with you. That would be my
first concern is that the the poker players, the players
that are going to I guess be in like the
circle of Phil Galfon, are just poker players, right, I mean,
I don't think they necessarily care about casino and sports book,
so it might just be like kind of a one
and done type of thing where they, you know, fire
these casino bets these sports book bets whatever. But then
they're not actually going to like move over to firing
in the you know, the virtual pits or you know,
or firing in the sportsbook. They're not going to do that.
So that would be my first concern. Not that not
that I'm like that this is how it's going to be.
That would just be my like, this, this might not
work for that reason type of thing. Secondary to that is,
I don't know if being in a fenced in market
of Pennsylvania only like allows this to even be able
to be successful within a three month window because you're
already at the you're already working with a much smaller
player pool, right just being in a one state versus
like if you were to do this in like let's say,
if WSP dot Com did this for an example, and
they have Michigan in New Jersey all in one, like,
you know, maybe it's a little bit better. I'd obviously
have to check the populations. Maybe Pennsylvania's larger, but the
player populations, I don't know. I feel like this might
be something that you would want to roll out more
down the line, because it might be an extremely good
idea and it might work in the future. But because
you're handicapped by being stuck in just one state, then
maybe it doesn't work and you would deem it as unsuccessful,
But it might be successful. It might be something where like,
if let's fast forward five ten years, you have eight
states on board, everyone's sharing liquidity, then you implement this
right versus like if it fails now and it doesn't
work and then you want to try it again down
the road, will executives just look at you and be like,
we tried this before, it didn't work, so we're not
doing it. But it might have just been the fact
that you just had a lot of obstacles in your
way to get it to work. So that would be
another sort of concern. I I do like the galfond
Is is thinking outside the box here. I do agree
that you know, when you're a big company like a
Bette Rivers, where you have these three verticals all at play,
poker is unfortunately the lowest. I mean, obviously, we love
poker on this podcast and we want it to be
the biggest, but that's just not how the world works.
It's very much like a regular casino, you know, the
poker rooms are often in the back or they're an
afterthought or a lot of pokes rooms in Vegas are
closing down. Which which one just closed down recently? Is
it Luxor is close closing down their poker room? I
forget exactly, Sahara so so, so yeah, you know, it's
just it's unfortunate, but that's just how it is. You know,
slots make more money, table games make more money, sportsbook
makes more money. You know, all that sort of stuff.
Also has less overhead than than poker. So so yeah,
so I don't I don't hate the concept. I just
don't know if it's going to work. But I mean, listen,
I guess you got to hand it to fill golf
On for trying. You know, he's obviously trying. And then
if this, let's say this works, this model works where
you're doing it this way, I could see it catching
on to being adopted by a poker stars, asp A,
bet MGM, et cetera. Right, you know, I guess WSOP
would be the outlier there, just because I feel like
WSP is always kind of separate than the actual casino stuff. Yeah,
and and maybe that's more so now that they're going
to be owned by GG Poker, Right, So maybe that
nessarially cares so much about that. But like a bet
MGM which is all has all this sort of stuff,
which or a poker star poker stars which has all
this sort of stuff, then then then maybe they end
up going down this road as well. So so we'll see.
That's all I got. Oh, I want to hit on
one thing. Uh we mentioned we met one person at
my table in the main event, David. I believe if
I'm saying your last NAM incorrectly, David, just message me
and tell me anam it's either IVES or ivis one
or the other. But he's playing at the main event
final table with me, and you come over and he
recognized you. He didn't recognize me, but then because I
didn't say anything, but then I said something. He recognized
my voice on the podcast and he said he came
out and played because of well us talking around on
the podcast. So good for David.
Speaker 2: Did you beat him out of any pots?
Speaker 1: We probably honestly broke even he beat you out of
one hand when I should have bluffed, I should have
fallen through with a bluff and I didn't. I just
didn't pull the trigger. I opened nine Native diamonds. This
was in a stretch when I was playing every hand,
I opened nine native diamonds. He called imposition. I think
he was on the button maybe, and it came Ace
six ' three rainbow with one diamond. I thought, my
best course of action here is to check raise.
Speaker 2: Okay, I checked.
Speaker 1: He bets I think twenty five hundred. I made it
sixty five. He called, which is fine. I mean he's
got an ace here a lot. I mean he can
obviously have a set as well. But you know, he
definitely has mostly aces here and he probably doesn't have
he can he could probably have Ace Queen. I don't
I don't know how David would play Ace Queen specifically.
I would say that he doesn't have Ace king. He
can maybe have Ace three suited. But he was also
new to getting moved to the table anyway. And I
can also turn a lot equity, like if it turns
like a diamond, seven of diamonds, for example, would be
a perfect card. I just start barreling off. Turn was
a deuce maybe, yeah, deuce, not a diamond. I opted
to just check, and I should have just went. I
was like, I'm just gonna go bet jam and I
was like, I don't know this guy can have two pairs.
I have eight now in my hand. I want him
to have like ACE eight a nine, right, So I
was like, hm, I don't know. I ultimately didn't think
that he would fold an ace, is what I just
I don't know. I just talked myself into that I
should have just barreled it off. So the hell with it.
So I checked turn. He checked back, river was a five.
Put a four liner out there. If he had a four,
I I mean, I don't think I have any fours
really here, especially the way I played my hand. He
could have ACE four. So that's why I then didn't
bet the river. But if the river was like I
don't know something that didn't put a four line out there,
maybe I bet it. Maybe pairs the board I bet.
I don't I don't know, but I ended up just
checking again. He checked back he had a nine. So
I definitely could have blown him off the hand there,
I think if I would fall through with my original plan.
But yeah, I didn't pull the trigger because because, yeah,
I decided I didn't need to do it. I don't
know why. I just thought better of it. Through all everything,
I just didn't think ultimately he would fold an ace.
I do this sometimes where like I, you know, I
checked the flop and I'm like, I can just fold
to their bet, and then I'm like, no, the hell
with it, check raise. I did this in the Run
Good tournament, like the second hand that I played, and like, I,
you know, I have fucking eight high on the river
and I'm just putting all my money and like, you know,
that's and of course I have to endure the fucking
three hour three hour tank and I get the fold.
But it's like, you know, it's one of those spots
where like I could have just check folded and like
not dealt with this and put myself into this this situation,
but here I am, and now I have nothing and
I have to go bluffing. So anyway, yeah, but yeah,
but then I won a hand against him where like
I opened ace ten suited race then off, sorry, don't
even give me the credit for having it suited, got
the guy behind me, Uh, went all in for like
three x my rais. David called and then I called
and it came ten high, and so I won those
chips from David there. So we ultimately probably broke even
over the course of the day. But it was a
pleasure of meeting him. He's from the Northeast, so my
neck of the woods, and uh yeah, hopefully I'll see
him around plenty more. So good seeing you out there.
That's all. I got. Anything you got, no good, that's it.
We'll be back. I have no idea when in a week. Maybe,
well you're going to Texas.
Speaker 2: I go on next Sunday, Okay, this Sunday, Okay, got
this Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well we'll get some updates from Texas
for sure, if not anything beforehand, but uh yeah, as
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we will talk to you guys next time.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he fo