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Speaker 2: Yes, Hello, Arrow, how are you Yesterday? Yesterday? Daniel?
Speaker 1: We're doing three radio tours and I see Arrow clicked
foomlink for today's tour yesterday yesterday? Oh like, I think
you want the other tour anyway, Arrow, You're all good.
Here's Daniel. You'll have till twenty after going see Daniel.
That's the reason. I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina. Where are
you at Charlotte today?
Speaker 2: I'm in today, I'm in Bethleem, Pennsylvania, but I'm in
North Carolina a lot my brothers live in Wilmington.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well we call that the Hollywood of the
East Coast. Wilmington. Yes, indeed, Wow, you know this is
one of those movies, Daniel, that we're not going to
be able to shake off, and we're gonna be talking
about it when we give it to our grandkids to
watch and those beyond us, because there's something about this
movie that is very real. And of course I want
to attach you because it's high school football in every town.
I don't care how big it is. We love our
high school football.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sir and Arrow in fact in this movie. So
what I've done is I've got the team. Our fictional
team is playing. Is my high school football team, Yes,
the Bethleem Catholic Golden Hawks. But then I took the bands.
There's two very famous competing bands in Bethel, and the
Liberty High School Grenadiers and the Freedom Patriot Band. And
you know, we got permission from the school little board
could combine them and put them in the movie together.
And so it's very powerful. If you come from the
Leon Valley and I look at there's one shot where
Beca's coming out of the tunnel and you see Liberty,
Freedom and becall all in the same shot, and I
think that's Bethlehem, and that's that's our fall right there.
It's those three teams banging into each other and other
teams for you know, for ten weeks, that's what everyone's
fall is.
Speaker 1: Well, you make me wonder now about what do we
miss in life because of these high school rivalries. Because
I wouldn't go to the different areas of Montana because
of the Great Fall Bisons and you know Billings was
we were state champions, But anything that I had to
do with Great Falls Montana, I ain't going there because
you're a rivalry and I just can't stand you.
Speaker 2: It is true, you know. Well, I mean there's been
doctor Jordan Peterson's talks about tribalism a lot like that tribe. Look,
when we were kids, who are kids in Bethlehem.
Speaker 3: I went to Saint and then there was Notre Dame,
and we were maybe the two parishes that, for whatever
reason clashed in all the Catholic youth organizations, didn't matter
if it was a football game or a talent show
or whatever, and we just hated Notre Dame. And to
this day, when I drive by Notre Dame, you know,
I always make some joke about the gold they stashed
under their altar.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't make it, doesn't make it. This is
a perfectly nuts people. But that's interesting. Well, Montana, I'm
glad you know our producer. We make these movies just
by the way through a not for profit called the
Channel of Peace, and Aaron McLean my partner in the
not for profit. She was the one who helped make it.
Reality is from Great Falls, So I can tell you
there's some nice people in Great Falls.
Speaker 1: I got to get up there then, I really do.
But you know, one of the coolest things about this
is that we all want to go back to our
high school to visit it. And you got to go there,
did it seem just as small because it just feels
like when you go back, the whole world shrunk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I've been there. Yeah that's true.
I think we're a grade school. I always think it's
funny you go to grade school. You remember where the
trophies were in the cabinet when you look up at them,
and now you look down at them. But yeah, going home.
I've made now four movies in my hometown and I
love it. So I'm often in places that you know,
in fact, where we made Lucky Louie. When we made
Lucky Louie, we used the convent of my grade school
as our kind of our meeting place, and you know,
we were down in the basement where the nuns used
to sew my pants, we were in the kitchen where
the nuns used to make me lunch. And you know,
there's no sisters in it now, you know, just a building.
And it's just interesting to be able to go visit
places as an adult and and have a different perspective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you think that Jake Bauer is going to
become iconic in the way that we can't tell if
he's a bitter man or just a grumpy old syndrome
type of guy. It's just we all are attracted to
people like Jake in the way that it's like we
know him, but it's like, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Give me ten minutes with him, and I'll change him.
I'll make him a happy camera.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you could make anybody a happy camper.
You're a very nice man. But yeah, I think that
there's a Jake Bower in everyone's life. Yes, there's somebody
who who's just you think, you know, you're just being
in an ass and it's just because you refuse to
like let the love of God in yes, and that's
that's all. That's all. It takes. One of my favorite
scenes in the movie are some lines in the movie.
You know, I mean, I'm not like one of my
favorite lines, I wrote them all. But he says, you know,
I don't believe in God, and she says, well, good news,
he believes in you. So that's where then that just find.
Speaker 4: You say that, yeah, yeah, so we've all got we've
all like like you you want to I mean, I
don't want to what I understand about about let's say.
Speaker 2: An atheist and I'm not. This is not the writing.
I just don't understand. Why do you want the responsibility
of creation? Why do you you know, why do you
want to believe that you are the architect of everything?
Because because if you believe you're the architect of everything,
then you're also the architect of the stuff that goes wrong.
That's rights. As a guy believes in God, I see
the stuff that goes wrong as the obstacle that I
need to overcome, not something I created. Sometimes, by the way,
let's be honest, sometimes they are obstacles we create. And
that's really what Jake's life is about. He's his own
obstacles that he's put in his own way and his
own lack of belief in his the betterment of his heart.
So I don't I don't, I mean, I don't get it.
But ultimately, you know, we pray for all people, and
we hope that all people have in the end. In
the end, I don't know, in the end, if you've
lived a good life in your good person you know,
some faces believe you have to have a very specific
line of thinking. You know, I don't know, because I
know God personally, but I don't know him well. I
don't know ultimately what how that's going to work out.
But you know, this movie is a reminder that even
if you have fallen.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: Don't have to worry. You always fix it and and
sometimes you just have to trust other people and you
have to just believe that other people.
Speaker 1: So wouldn't you say that this movie the Hail Mary?
In reality, it's like dropping the four walls of the
Church and you put the church language in modern day,
every day speak, and you go, here's a movie I
want you to watch. You're going to feel something. I
don't care, you know, I don't care who you are,
what you've experienced, in life, you're going to feel something
in this movie. Call it what you want, but you're
going to feel something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that. I'd like to say I'm not
preaching to the choir where I'm preaching to the people
drive by the church. And I think that through humor
and good storytelling, that's how you capture them and I
and honestly, R that's I think. You know, I've been
in other movies, and I've seen other movies. I don't
think every faith based movie, you know, they're just to formulaic.
It's like a Hallmark movie. And if it's formulaic, maybe
you watch it and you know the outcome. But I'd
rather have you not know what's going to happen next.
This movie, I hope people keep the end secret because
not knowing what happens next is a big part of
its success. Yeah. I think that making the nuns completely real,
like the sisters I had, were completely authentic, real human beings.
They weren't stereotypes. Not one of them was a stereotype.
They were all intricate, beautiful people who were doing the
best they could for society and giving up so much
for society.
Speaker 1: Please do not move there's more with actor Daniel Roebuck
coming up next. The name of the movie The Hail Mary.
We're back with actor Daniel Roebuck. Yeah. I love the
way that you do that you humanize the girls and
the nuns. And the reason why is because I work
in a position just because I wanted to have an
essential job to be with real people. If you want
to be with church, go to the comm unity. Where
are people at the community is at the grocery store.
So when the nuns come walking through our store, dude,
I will go and have a real conversation with him.
And it freaks people out because what is what is
he doing talking to the nuns?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: They're real people?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're they're just great, like, yes, there's we
there's It's so hard actually to find like habited sisters anymore,
because even even the sisters of Saint Joseph, when I
told them I was making the movie, they don't wear
their habits anymore too, maybe too die hardened sisters still do.
But they said, don't are you gonna make us wear habits?
And I said, well, I need the audience to know
that you're who you are, so you know, you saw
the movie. We came up with kind of a middle
ground where they're all they all wear veils, but they're
given an opportunity to dress out. They weren't. But Sister
Kathletes says, but you know, I hope it scares the boys, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean the thing about it is, if you've never
been gripped in the arm by a nun or a sister,
holy God, you will never forget that grip when they
You've been talking in class all day and all of
a sudden you feel your arm grabbed by a sister.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember once there was a kid, Mike Cuck
who was the bully in school. I remember he took
a swing at the nun maybe in fourth grade. Sister
ansel him and then we never saw him again. God,
I just thought, well, well he's dead. I don't know.
I don't know where you go when you try to
hit a nun, but it can't be good. But I
always wonder what happened to Mike. I hope he's okay.
Speaker 1: So now when you talk about the sisters not wearing
their habits these days, inside my mind, I'm going, you know, what,
Daniel is the type of person who's very creative in
his heart and mind and believe so much in the universe.
He would be the one that could reinvent the Flying
Nun sister Betrayal and not have to have a habit.
I think you could be that guy.
Speaker 2: She'd have to have. But the whole thing was the wind,
the habit in her wind. And remember that she made
the perfect weight. You'd have to put an airdew on
on the on the unhabited Sister Patrol. But remember how
simple and lovely the Flying Nun was. Oh, what a great,
what a great, what a great little show for whatever?
For two years, you know, that was what was on
TV was wholesome, happy entertainment.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Oh you you're you know you're podcaster, right, you're in
in the business there. You know. They keep writing these
articles about how now, no, the Hollywood's you know, the
studio where I shot a series is you know CBS
Radford where they's got Seinfeld. That studios. It might disappear.
It's like it's in arrears. They're foreclosing well, and they
keep blaming this or that, but nobody will blame the
real thing. You're not making anything that anybody wants to see.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: That's why no one's watching.
Speaker 1: See And that's one of the reasons. Like, when I
go to a movie, I like watching the people around
me just as much as I like watching that screen,
because I'm getting energy from those that are sitting there, laughing,
chewing on their fingernails or eating their popcorn, going to
the bathroom because there's entertainment there because that movie is
affecting them, and it's like, oh my god, I'm with
real people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one of the things I love about.
I Mean, I know we're changing how this is done,
but you know, if Netflix SPI's Warner Brothers We're in
trouble Boy, it's gonna be bad because the movie theaters
as it is are just barely holding on. But if
they take the window from forty five days down to seventeen,
you know, the people, we're not going to see movies
with people. We're going to see movies with our kids
or our wives, and that's all we're going to see.
But as the guy who makes the movie to stand
in the back of the theater, do you hear them
all laugh at a thing that you thought of eight
years earlier, at a very specific joke that you worked
and worked and worked when you wrote it, then you
worked and worked and worked when you filmed it, and
then you worked and worked and worked when you edited it,
and when it lands and they all laugh and you go,
that's I mean, that's my That's what I need. I
keep putting this out there. I don't want it to
happen until ninety five, but I'd be okay dying on
stage in the middle of a play. I love it,
you know, especially like if I could hold out to
and the murderer is and then you die. That's that's
kind of what I'm like. I'd like to ruin everybody's
night at the theater.
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why the Hail Mary
affects me so deeply here in Charlotte is because of
Brian May, who's the quarterback for the And he came
from Myers Park. We know, we don't say he's from Charlotte.
He's from Myers Park and and and those Mustangs are
a major part of this community. So when I saw this,
I'm sitting there going, my god, this this must be
what what what he went through in order to get
up to where he is with the Patriots he went
through with something like this because I mean, and that's
the kind of movie this is. It's so real.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I'm so grateful Aro that we're having
this conversation. You're saying such nice things. Listen, the whole
thing is a blessing to me. That I get to
come make these movies. It's just an extraordinary gift. And
I hope they touch everybody like they touch you. I
hope that I hope that people go see it. I
think we're playing in I think we're playing in Winston Salem.
I got to check it. We're playing in Charlotte, but please,
it's the February twenty seventh. The movie opens wide and
then it'll be viewable after that. But I think I
really do agree with you. I think it will move people.
And if you have a chance to see the other
movies Getting Grace or Lucky Louis or Saint Nichot of
Bethlehem there, they'll all touch you and move you and
move your heart in some way.
Speaker 1: We got to give kudos to Regal at a Stonecrest
here in Charlotte because they put up a faith based
movie and my god, the people come that place is
always crowded, and it's not like watching the big movies
that everybody else thinks they're gonna go watch. Once you
get a faith based movie in there. And maybe it's
because we have so many churches here in Charlotte, the
theaters fill up.
Speaker 2: I just wrote it down. I'm gonna find out who
they are. I don't know if we're playing in any regals,
but that would be great, the regal in Charlotte. I'll
look that up. Thank you so much. Aro. Well.
Speaker 1: The thing about it is, though, is that faith based
movies are not what they used to be. And the
thing about it is is that we do want to
feel good walking away. We all also want to feel
good sitting in the seas and sit there and create
conversations between all of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what I do believe because I've seen it.
When I said this before, I saw with Getting Grace,
movie about finding faith. That's what Getting Grace is about.
We you know, we took it on a tour Muslims, Mormons, Christians, Catholics, Jews.
The fact is, it doesn't matter that these are Catholic nuns.
This movie is about finding a faith in God, Amen,
and recognizing God's love for you intrinsically, so it doesn't matter,
you know, just doesn't matter. This film, you know, scored
so well at Angel Studios. Uh, and they're you know,
they represent their white swap. They do Christian believe me,
you know, we're we feel very strongly that the movie's
message is universal, and that's the kind of movies I
try to make. Although this movie it's through a Catholic lens,
it doesn't matter. It's still it's it's the story of faith,
not how you get to it.
Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you
and give you some love in supporting this and getting
that word out there. It's time for everybody to become influencers.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. They can go to a channel
of peace dot org. They can learn how we make
these movies through this not for profit a channel of
peace dot org. You know, I don't these movies we've
made so far, I don't take a salary at all,
or does anybody else named Roebuck. By the way, my
daughter got married and pointed out that she's technically not
a Roebuck anymore, so she will be expecting a paycheck
like everyone else. Cats on the next movie, But they
go channel peace dot orger follow me mister Daniel Robuck
on Instagram or Daniel Roebuck on Facebook. And yeah, if
you can get word out about the movie, that'd be great.
You know, tell him you go see the Hell Mary. No,
not that one, the smaller one, the Hail Mary film.
Speaker 1: I got to give you one more pat on the
back because my father would would love the fact of
having a conversation with you. He grew up with Brian Denahey.
I get the opportunity to see who's next after Brian Dennahey,
and it's you. You are that character actor.
Speaker 2: That's that's really sweet. I got to work with Brian once.
Oh my god. I was so impressed with him. I
was so grateful to have just I think I had
one or two scenes with him. You know what, I
remember there was another actor, not important who it was,
but I remember Brian Dennahey saying under his breath, tell
remind that guy he's acting in a bo This is
the actor was moving around a lot. Brian Dennehey. This
knew that he was spinning too. You know, just sit
and act. That's all you have to do. Oh my god,
Oh what a great guy. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Please come back to this show anytime in the future.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, ro Thank you so much. God bless you
on your listeners.
Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2: Okay, sir, we're gonna try it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Thank you.