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Enjoy your exploration recording in progress. Wow, I hooked up

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on the right day. Finally, Yes you did?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hello, Arrow, how are you Yesterday? Yesterday? Daniel?

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Speaker 1: We're doing three radio tours and I see Arrow clicked

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foomlink for today's tour yesterday yesterday? Oh like, I think

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you want the other tour anyway, Arrow, You're all good.

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Here's Daniel. You'll have till twenty after going see Daniel.

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That's the reason. I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina. Where are

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you at Charlotte today?

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Speaker 2: I'm in today, I'm in Bethleem, Pennsylvania, but I'm in

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North Carolina a lot my brothers live in Wilmington.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well we call that the Hollywood of the

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East Coast. Wilmington. Yes, indeed, Wow, you know this is

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one of those movies, Daniel, that we're not going to

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be able to shake off, and we're gonna be talking

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about it when we give it to our grandkids to

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watch and those beyond us, because there's something about this

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movie that is very real. And of course I want

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to attach you because it's high school football in every town.

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I don't care how big it is. We love our

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high school football.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sir and Arrow in fact in this movie. So

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what I've done is I've got the team. Our fictional

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team is playing. Is my high school football team, Yes,

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the Bethleem Catholic Golden Hawks. But then I took the bands.

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There's two very famous competing bands in Bethel, and the

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Liberty High School Grenadiers and the Freedom Patriot Band. And

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you know, we got permission from the school little board

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could combine them and put them in the movie together.

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And so it's very powerful. If you come from the

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Leon Valley and I look at there's one shot where

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Beca's coming out of the tunnel and you see Liberty,

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Freedom and becall all in the same shot, and I

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think that's Bethlehem, and that's that's our fall right there.

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It's those three teams banging into each other and other

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teams for you know, for ten weeks, that's what everyone's

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Speaker 1: Well, you make me wonder now about what do we

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miss in life because of these high school rivalries. Because

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I wouldn't go to the different areas of Montana because

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of the Great Fall Bisons and you know Billings was

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we were state champions, But anything that I had to

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do with Great Falls Montana, I ain't going there because

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you're a rivalry and I just can't stand you.

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doctor Jordan Peterson's talks about tribalism a lot like that tribe. Look,

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and we were maybe the two parishes that, for whatever

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reason clashed in all the Catholic youth organizations, didn't matter

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if it was a football game or a talent show

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or whatever, and we just hated Notre Dame. And to

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a perfectly nuts people. But that's interesting. Well, Montana, I'm

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glad you know our producer. We make these movies just

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by the way through a not for profit called the

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Channel of Peace, and Aaron McLean my partner in the

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not for profit. She was the one who helped make it.

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Reality is from Great Falls, So I can tell you

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Speaker 1: I got to get up there then, I really do.

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high school to visit it. And you got to go there,

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did it seem just as small because it just feels

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funny you go to grade school. You remember where the

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become iconic in the way that we can't tell if

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type of guy. It's just we all are attracted to

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people like Jake in the way that it's like we

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know him, but it's like, I'm gonna be honest with you.

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there's a Jake Bower in everyone's life. Yes, there's somebody

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who who's just you think, you know, you're just being

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in an ass and it's just because you refuse to

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that's all. That's all. It takes. One of my favorite

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favorite lines, I wrote them all. But he says, you know,

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I don't believe in God, and she says, well, good news,

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he believes in you. So that's where then that just find.

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Speaker 4: You say that, yeah, yeah, so we've all got we've

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don't want to what I understand about about let's say.

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Speaker 2: An atheist and I'm not. This is not the writing.

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I just don't understand. Why do you want the responsibility

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of creation? Why do you you know, why do you

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want to believe that you are the architect of everything?

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then you're also the architect of the stuff that goes wrong.

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the stuff that goes wrong as the obstacle that I

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need to overcome, not something I created. Sometimes, by the way,

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let's be honest, sometimes they are obstacles we create. And

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that's really what Jake's life is about. He's his own

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obstacles that he's put in his own way and his

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own lack of belief in his the betterment of his heart.

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we hope that all people have in the end. In

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the end, I don't know, in the end, if you've

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lived a good life in your good person you know,

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some faces believe you have to have a very specific

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line of thinking. You know, I don't know, because I

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know God personally, but I don't know him well. I

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don't know ultimately what how that's going to work out.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to worry. You always fix it and and

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sometimes you just have to trust other people and you

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Speaker 1: So wouldn't you say that this movie the Hail Mary?

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Church and you put the church language in modern day,

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every day speak, and you go, here's a movie I

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want you to watch. You're going to feel something. I

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don't care, you know, I don't care who you are,

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what you've experienced, in life, you're going to feel something

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in this movie. Call it what you want, but you're

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going to feel something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that. I'd like to say I'm not

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preaching to the choir where I'm preaching to the people

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drive by the church. And I think that through humor

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and good storytelling, that's how you capture them and I

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and honestly, R that's I think. You know, I've been

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in other movies, and I've seen other movies. I don't

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think every faith based movie, you know, they're just to formulaic.

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you watch it and you know the outcome. But I'd

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rather have you not know what's going to happen next.

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This movie, I hope people keep the end secret because

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not knowing what happens next is a big part of

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its success. Yeah. I think that making the nuns completely real,

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like the sisters I had, were completely authentic, real human beings.

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They were all intricate, beautiful people who were doing the

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best they could for society and giving up so much

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coming up next. The name of the movie The Hail Mary.

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We're back with actor Daniel Roebuck. Yeah. I love the

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way that you do that you humanize the girls and

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essential job to be with real people. If you want

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Speaker 1: They're real people?

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the movie. We came up with kind of a middle

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given an opportunity to dress out. They weren't. But Sister

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Speaker 1: I mean the thing about it is, if you've never

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holy God, you will never forget that grip when they

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a sudden you feel your arm grabbed by a sister.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember once there was a kid, Mike Cuck

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who was the bully in school. I remember he took

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ansel him and then we never saw him again. God,

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I just thought, well, well he's dead. I don't know.

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I don't know where you go when you try to

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hit a nun, but it can't be good. But I

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always wonder what happened to Mike. I hope he's okay.

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Speaker 1: So now when you talk about the sisters not wearing

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their habits these days, inside my mind, I'm going, you know, what,

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Daniel is the type of person who's very creative in

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his heart and mind and believe so much in the universe.

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He would be the one that could reinvent the Flying

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I think you could be that guy.

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the habit in her wind. And remember that she made

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the perfect weight. You'd have to put an airdew on

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simple and lovely the Flying Nun was. Oh, what a great,

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what a great, what a great little show for whatever?

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articles about how now, no, the Hollywood's you know, the

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real thing. You're not making anything that anybody wants to see.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: That's why no one's watching.

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Speaker 1: See And that's one of the reasons. Like, when I

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go to a movie, I like watching the people around

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me just as much as I like watching that screen,

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because I'm getting energy from those that are sitting there, laughing,

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chewing on their fingernails or eating their popcorn, going to

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the bathroom because there's entertainment there because that movie is

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affecting them, and it's like, oh my god, I'm with

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real people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's one of the things I love about.

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I Mean, I know we're changing how this is done,

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but you know, if Netflix SPI's Warner Brothers We're in

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trouble Boy, it's gonna be bad because the movie theaters

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as it is are just barely holding on. But if

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they take the window from forty five days down to seventeen,

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you know, the people, we're not going to see movies

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with people. We're going to see movies with our kids

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or our wives, and that's all we're going to see.

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But as the guy who makes the movie to stand

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in the back of the theater, do you hear them

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all laugh at a thing that you thought of eight

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years earlier, at a very specific joke that you worked

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and worked and worked when you wrote it, then you

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worked and worked and worked when you filmed it, and

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then you worked and worked and worked when you edited it,

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and when it lands and they all laugh and you go,

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that's I mean, that's my That's what I need. I

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keep putting this out there. I don't want it to

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happen until ninety five, but I'd be okay dying on

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stage in the middle of a play. I love it,

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you know, especially like if I could hold out to

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and the murderer is and then you die. That's that's

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kind of what I'm like. I'd like to ruin everybody's

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night at the theater.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why the Hail Mary

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affects me so deeply here in Charlotte is because of

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Brian May, who's the quarterback for the And he came

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from Myers Park. We know, we don't say he's from Charlotte.

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He's from Myers Park and and and those Mustangs are

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a major part of this community. So when I saw this,

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I'm sitting there going, my god, this this must be

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what what what he went through in order to get

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up to where he is with the Patriots he went

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through with something like this because I mean, and that's

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the kind of movie this is. It's so real.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you. I'm so grateful Aro that we're having

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this conversation. You're saying such nice things. Listen, the whole

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thing is a blessing to me. That I get to

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come make these movies. It's just an extraordinary gift. And

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I hope they touch everybody like they touch you. I

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hope that I hope that people go see it. I

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think we're playing in I think we're playing in Winston Salem.

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I got to check it. We're playing in Charlotte, but please,

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it's the February twenty seventh. The movie opens wide and

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then it'll be viewable after that. But I think I

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really do agree with you. I think it will move people.

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And if you have a chance to see the other

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movies Getting Grace or Lucky Louis or Saint Nichot of

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Bethlehem there, they'll all touch you and move you and

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move your heart in some way.

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Speaker 1: We got to give kudos to Regal at a Stonecrest

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here in Charlotte because they put up a faith based

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movie and my god, the people come that place is

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always crowded, and it's not like watching the big movies

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that everybody else thinks they're gonna go watch. Once you

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get a faith based movie in there. And maybe it's

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because we have so many churches here in Charlotte, the

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theaters fill up.

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Speaker 2: I just wrote it down. I'm gonna find out who

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they are. I don't know if we're playing in any regals,

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but that would be great, the regal in Charlotte. I'll

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look that up. Thank you so much. Aro. Well.

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Speaker 1: The thing about it is, though, is that faith based

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movies are not what they used to be. And the

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thing about it is is that we do want to

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feel good walking away. We all also want to feel

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good sitting in the seas and sit there and create

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conversations between all of us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what I do believe because I've seen it.

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When I said this before, I saw with Getting Grace,

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movie about finding faith. That's what Getting Grace is about.

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We you know, we took it on a tour Muslims, Mormons, Christians, Catholics, Jews.

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The fact is, it doesn't matter that these are Catholic nuns.

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This movie is about finding a faith in God, Amen,

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and recognizing God's love for you intrinsically, so it doesn't matter,

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you know, just doesn't matter. This film, you know, scored

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so well at Angel Studios. Uh, and they're you know,

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they represent their white swap. They do Christian believe me,

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you know, we're we feel very strongly that the movie's

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message is universal, and that's the kind of movies I

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try to make. Although this movie it's through a Catholic lens,

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it doesn't matter. It's still it's it's the story of faith,

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not how you get to it.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you

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and give you some love in supporting this and getting

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that word out there. It's time for everybody to become influencers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. They can go to a channel

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of peace dot org. They can learn how we make

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these movies through this not for profit a channel of

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peace dot org. You know, I don't these movies we've

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made so far, I don't take a salary at all,

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or does anybody else named Roebuck. By the way, my

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daughter got married and pointed out that she's technically not

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a Roebuck anymore, so she will be expecting a paycheck

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like everyone else. Cats on the next movie, But they

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go channel peace dot orger follow me mister Daniel Robuck

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on Instagram or Daniel Roebuck on Facebook. And yeah, if

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you can get word out about the movie, that'd be great.

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You know, tell him you go see the Hell Mary. No,

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not that one, the smaller one, the Hail Mary film.

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Speaker 1: I got to give you one more pat on the

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back because my father would would love the fact of

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having a conversation with you. He grew up with Brian Denahey.

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I get the opportunity to see who's next after Brian Dennahey,

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and it's you. You are that character actor.

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Speaker 2: That's that's really sweet. I got to work with Brian once.

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Oh my god. I was so impressed with him. I

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was so grateful to have just I think I had

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one or two scenes with him. You know what, I

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remember there was another actor, not important who it was,

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but I remember Brian Dennahey saying under his breath, tell

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remind that guy he's acting in a bo This is

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the actor was moving around a lot. Brian Dennehey. This

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knew that he was spinning too. You know, just sit

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and act. That's all you have to do. Oh my god,

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Oh what a great guy. Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Please come back to this show anytime in the future.

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The door is always going to be open for you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, ro Thank you so much. God bless you

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on your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?

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Speaker 2: Okay, sir, we're gonna try it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Thank you.

