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<v Speaker 1>You see somethings going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I think what he held bag on? Hell you friends,

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<v Speaker 1>get them all in here. You're gonna have a fun time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Nick, how's your week been treating?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? That's too bad. Uh had some good shows

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<v Speaker 2>this week, some good UH guests. Heather, Yo, that ship

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<v Speaker 2>was fun last night with Heather and UH and Raccondo. Yeah, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what was funny. I thought we went live

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<v Speaker 2>with her the first time, and we didn't, So her

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<v Speaker 2>first episode dropped today. So it's like I just had

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<v Speaker 2>a wrong live last night. I guarantee you most of

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<v Speaker 2>the people seeing that video drop today is probably like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably was last night. I totally fucked that up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I had no way. I thought the

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<v Speaker 2>audio was dropping today, not the video, because I thought

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<v Speaker 2>the video was already live, right, But yeah, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was that one.

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<v Speaker 1>That video has got a lot off too. It because

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<v Speaker 1>there's something going on with these islands and the giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and these places like Aruba are like these central hobs

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<v Speaker 1>for all of the rest of the continents, and I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that as a theme, the islands kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of all these continental blocks are used as

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<v Speaker 1>the controllers of those continents. We don't think about it

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<v Speaker 1>because we're not thinking in terms of how conspiracy works.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have the group separate from these different

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<v Speaker 1>areas so that you can effectively plan for those other areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, oh you know who's another guest, Fortunately, another

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<v Speaker 2>good guest that you weren't there, You couldn't make it. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>When we had Danny Hillman on that shit was really

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<v Speaker 2>impressive because I tell people, if you go go check

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<v Speaker 2>it out if you haven't, If you did and you

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<v Speaker 2>only got a few minutes in because you're like this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's accent, it gets better. After about seven minutes he

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<v Speaker 2>starts to catch on and when he goes into his

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<v Speaker 2>side presentations, he's on fire. But you know that thing

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<v Speaker 2>is there's a good chance he's going to prove that

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<v Speaker 2>that shit is way older than it is. And if

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<v Speaker 2>they there's a good they also think there might have

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<v Speaker 2>been a harbor over there, and if that is a

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<v Speaker 2>harbor and it's as old as it is, it will

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<v Speaker 2>actually basically change how our civilization was back then. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, Yo, they had boats and they were making deliveries,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in going places. We didn't think they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing that twenty years ago, I mean twenty thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, say, so that is really interesting fingers grossed.

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<v Speaker 2>If that ever comes out man, as you know, being accepted,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna change shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you notice Ricardo talking about these ash

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<v Speaker 1>layers last night? He didn't really get into detail, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've got ash that are deposited on top of human

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<v Speaker 1>artifacts that can be accurately dated to around twenty to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand years BC. These human artifacts are pretty advanced,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty good indicator that we've always been here.

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<v Speaker 1>We just keep getting set back down natural.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think. Like I've even said it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't sound that it sounds upsetting you think about,

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<v Speaker 2>because you'd probably know what's going to happen if you

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<v Speaker 2>have the technology to view it. But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>these polar ships, it's quite possible we flip our shit

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while, and that just resets.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything, right. I think, coming outside of outside of yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and your culture and then looking at all of these

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<v Speaker 1>different fact points and then making your own assessment and

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to effectively transmit your information to future

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<v Speaker 1>generations is going to be vital because we can see

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<v Speaker 1>what the Smithsonian is doing now trying to cover up

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<v Speaker 1>all of the messages ancient mayn left to us. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can think through that and think about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what would the future Smithsonians do to try and take

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<v Speaker 1>our message away from those future generations, you're already light

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<v Speaker 1>years ahead of the curve, right, So maybe we don't

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<v Speaker 1>make it through this one, but maybe you can get

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<v Speaker 1>the message to the right people, you know, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that way of doing things is better than depending on

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to save us, because they seem to always, at

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<v Speaker 1>least the elite class, always seem to run things. So

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<v Speaker 1>leave instructions and tell people do not trust authorities. Authorities

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<v Speaker 1>will fuck you over. Because that's what we're missing from

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<v Speaker 1>the ancient land, is people telling you, hey, don't trust

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<v Speaker 1>the government. Don't give this to the Smithsonian. Right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they almost don't understand the concept of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're in between these major cataclysms that these

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<v Speaker 1>people have on record and keep it occulted from us.

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<v Speaker 2>I've even wondered, and you know, this might sound a

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<v Speaker 2>little weird, but I don't think it's for our benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do wonder sometimes like a place is like

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<v Speaker 2>sern or is you know, the cabal actually trying to

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<v Speaker 2>stop certain things from happening. But it's not because they

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<v Speaker 2>care about us. They don't actually want to tell you yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But you see, you know, all of these tunnels

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<v Speaker 1>that they've produced all over North America and all over

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<v Speaker 1>Europe and all over Asia, all of these things are

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<v Speaker 1>where they plan on going if something ever pops off

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<v Speaker 1>of the surface. And then they've got rocketry where they

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<v Speaker 1>plan on getting outside the atmosphere if they need to.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the options are open to the people with

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<v Speaker 1>the most amount of money, and we're not even going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to warn future generations after the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing resets. So maybe if we start thinking about that

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<v Speaker 1>and figuring out ways to leave those messages effectively in

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<v Speaker 1>certain maybe megalithic purportion, you know, big old rocks that

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<v Speaker 1>say do not trust the government or something, Maybe leave

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<v Speaker 1>some translations other forms are writing next to it, something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you're going to be leaving your legacy to

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<v Speaker 1>a people who will now be light years ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>where we are. Yeah, that's something to be helpful about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Let's depersonalize this stuff. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we are part of the planet. Maybe that whole reset

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else is part of this whole soul cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can level up ourselves and other people. But

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<v Speaker 1>we got some symbols tonight. Oh yeah, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>take us through your symbols?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, hold on one second, all right, did you

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<v Speaker 2>hear pull it up? If you don't mind, you got it?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me see. Yeah, it's pretty much the

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<v Speaker 2>whole picture right there. All right. That is the interesting name.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called the Hestero amulet or the uterus with key.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird, but it is a it's basically a womb

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<v Speaker 2>schematic womb off on like a cupping vessel like it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a cup and it's sealed with a seven

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<v Speaker 2>tooth key and it's normally has like an aural boros

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<v Speaker 2>around it as well. And it was something I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into the uses this goes back to. Originally, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they said that they find them around anywhere from two

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<v Speaker 2>to fifth century, and these types kind of are found

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<v Speaker 2>in the Roman Imperial East, the Egypt and the Levant.

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<v Speaker 2>There is some museums, the British Museum, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>are deredating it back to the second and fifth century.

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<v Speaker 2>Those ones that they find earlier tend to be made

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<v Speaker 2>at a hematite. Then they start showing back up again

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<v Speaker 2>around the seventh from the seventh to twelfth century, and

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<v Speaker 2>those are made out of normally copper and lead, and

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<v Speaker 2>they might look a little bit different. But and you

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<v Speaker 2>know the reason that it was used a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 2>It was for kids, women or pregnant women or even midwives.

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<v Speaker 2>But here on it. I'll see if I could, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>let me change it some of the pictures for you

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<v Speaker 2>to see too. This would be the back is another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So like that vessel right there is supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be like the womb, and then you could have here,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the ora boris, you will have things on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I think there is certain words that are always constant.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll get into that, but then I think some of

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<v Speaker 2>them you may change depending on the deity that you're

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<v Speaker 2>actually putting on the ambulant.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a bad picture, that's amazing. Yeah, So do

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<v Speaker 1>you think this is like the basis of all ambulets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they're all like a uterus.

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<v Speaker 2>Hw That's a good question, right right, Yeah, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>even Uh, I mean even yeah, I guess even the

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<v Speaker 2>shape of it. But yeah, all right, let me just

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<v Speaker 2>get back to it again. Yeah, the uterus glyph uh. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the patient's womb, that cup uh. And it is

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<v Speaker 2>named directly and addressed in the in the spell when

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<v Speaker 2>it is used. The seven tooth key, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>control of closure or opening of the pregnancy, of the birth,

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<v Speaker 2>the seven ties to the planetary sevens, and magical valves

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<v Speaker 2>used on the stones, the orboos ring supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>for like total containment and boundaries keeping the demons or

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<v Speaker 2>bad airrs from the womb deities above. Sometimes I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the ones that I'm supposed to be showing. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>It is either sometimes I don't know if I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>this right channobis, or sometimes it almost looks it's an

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<v Speaker 2>earlier version. I almost did that tonight, but I did

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to get into it. It's like an

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<v Speaker 2>version of her practice. It is the lion headed and

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<v Speaker 2>uh has a. It's also known for being like a

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<v Speaker 2>stomach healer. Sometimes they'll have icys or Nephtis on there

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<v Speaker 2>as like a protective midwife or sometimes a nubis for

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<v Speaker 2>being like a guard or stabilizing the situation in the inscription.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it will be like contract womb, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>name of whatever like you're wanting to use, and then

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they'll string the seven valves at the end, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how it was used. Sometimes there would be kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like this on a necklace or a ringstone, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it would be worn or put in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes when we would put it around their abdomen while

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<v Speaker 2>even reciting the inscription, they would hold it there. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they even said that they would have like another one

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of goes down almost down by like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the vagin area, and you'd hold you could hold two

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<v Speaker 2>down there or whatever and do your thing again. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of patients, pregnant women, new mothers and in midwies,

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<v Speaker 2>we use that a lot. It eventually even did start

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<v Speaker 2>all the versions of it even started kind of popping

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<v Speaker 2>up amongst according to what I see, even like with Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>Christians and Pagans. So but uh, yeah, that was my

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<v Speaker 2>that was my schigil.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredibly advanced. I mean, the idea that they were

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the uterus in this very methodical way, like

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<v Speaker 1>having to protect it and all the rest of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems so I'm like, this is nineteenth century science

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<v Speaker 1>being interpreted on first century ambulance.

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<v Speaker 2>For yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, like you're saying

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<v Speaker 2>that this shit goes back to like to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundredth century, and it's like they're already understanding that

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<v Speaker 2>like this, you know, they already know what's up in

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<v Speaker 2>a sense, and like from then on, from then on,

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<v Speaker 2>we just stayed stupid for the next eighteen hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't learn anything new since then, up until recently

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<v Speaker 2>last undred, last undred, we started learning them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my problem with Christianity. It's like it's all

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<v Speaker 1>encapsulated right here in this ambulance. It's like they were

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<v Speaker 1>so far advanced and understanding and then they just get

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<v Speaker 1>They continue to use Galen into the seventeenth century. Galen,

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<v Speaker 1>from his prescriptions until the seventeen hundreds. Wait, sixteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>in Rome in ancient role wo, that's what his prescription was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not they didn't change anything. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean like once you once you put it

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<v Speaker 1>to different parts of the body. They can understand that,

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<v Speaker 1>you see what I'm saying. So, like all of this

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<v Speaker 1>oral histories, Well, what happens with Christianity? All that stuff

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<v Speaker 2>Anything too blatant, was.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, But what's blatant about that? If you know what

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bad thing, that's an evil symbol. It's like no,

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<v Speaker 1>that represents body, that's the homeostasis that keeps you different

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<v Speaker 1>they had a different way of writing their science, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and we call it magic because they didn't understand this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Paganism was far more elitist than what we

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, right, all that stuff was only.

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<v Speaker 1>The elite study, right, only the elite study. That So

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<v Speaker 1>if a slave is looking at this, he sees witchcraft.

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<v Speaker 1>If it you know, upper class person sees this, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they trying to do? What is these seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven tooth key? What are all these things? What's the

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<v Speaker 1>idea here? Are there? Are there forces at work here?

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying, They're trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's Yeah, for the seven seventeeth it

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<v Speaker 2>was even going back to possible planetary energies. Yeah so right,

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's a great symbol. I got to look

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<v Speaker 1>that up. Man, If if anybody wants to understand how

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<v Speaker 1>is break down ancient symbols and then you'll start to

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<v Speaker 1>see it for yourself. That's that's what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do with this segment. You know, it's just have people

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<v Speaker 1>to start to understand that these are a practical uses

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<v Speaker 1>for magical ambulance, and it gets deep into your memory,

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<v Speaker 1>and where the memory is, that's where you find magic. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think even like most of the cross even.

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<v Speaker 2>Though like a lot of the stuff that we covered,

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<v Speaker 2>none of it's even anything remotely bad, is it? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the time now when you now when you

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<v Speaker 2>break it down and see what it's being used for

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<v Speaker 2>and what the things mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, it could be because yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It always Yeah, it can always be twisted for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hammer in a nail? You hammer somebody's head? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tool. It's still the same tool.

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<v Speaker 2>I could you know, eat, we did a stamp somebody

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<v Speaker 2>in the eyeball with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, that's that simple. That's a great symbol that

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It really exemplifies that whole idea than you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, I got the Chaos star. If people don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the symbol for chaos magic. Right. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Michael Moorcock. That's right, that's right. You

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<v Speaker 1>better get into magic if your name is Morcock.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy didn't have a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure it out, right, You gotta be a wizard. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be a fucking wizard. So this guy wrote mythology

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<v Speaker 1>for tabletop games like Warhammer and Dungeons and Dragons, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he was deep into this whole tabletop gaming phenomenon, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he created the symbol of political movements as well

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, stuff about Nazism. So he creates the

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<v Speaker 1>symbol for his games, and then it gets adopted by

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionaries who start to use it as the symbol of

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<v Speaker 1>their rebellion against government, which is kind of interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>why did he use this symbol as chaos. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>conceived of the symbol while writing the first Eric of

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<v Speaker 1>Mellbone stories in the nineteen sixties. It later became common

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<v Speaker 1>in popular culture, appearing in occult traditions and role playing games.

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<v Speaker 1>An air interview with Morcock, he described how he designed

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<v Speaker 1>the symbol. I drew a straightforward geographical quadrant which often

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<v Speaker 1>arrows northwest, east and south, and then another four directions.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was it, Eight arrows representing all possibilities,

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<v Speaker 1>one arrow representing the single certain road of law. I

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<v Speaker 1>have since been told to my face that it is

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<v Speaker 1>an ancient symbol for chaos. Chaos, So it's any path

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<v Speaker 1>is open to you. From the place of chaos, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no order imposed upon you. And if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, the idea of chaos really does go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea of the circumpunked right, this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>it's the all powerful, all sovereign thing in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the circle. You know, it can go in any

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<v Speaker 1>direction at the same time. But if you think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>the circumpunk and the chaos star, they're really similar, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the nineteen seventies, the chaos star became the

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<v Speaker 1>main symbol of chaos magic, a British occult tradition, the

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<v Speaker 1>official symbol of the Illuminates of Deneteros, a magical organization

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated to chaos magic. The symbol's first appearance in a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial role playing game was The Dungeons of Dragons Supplement

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<v Speaker 1>Deities and Demigods, which featured gods and monsters for Morcock's books.

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<v Speaker 1>It was later adapted in a Stormbringer, Warhammer forty K,

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<v Speaker 1>and Warhammer Age of Sigmare, among other games. It has

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally been used as used astrologically as the symbol for

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<v Speaker 1>the trans Neptunian planetoid nineteen five twenty one Chaos, so

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<v Speaker 1>there is a planetoid out there using this symbol because

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<v Speaker 1>of its erratic shape and erratic motion throughout this trans

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<v Speaker 1>Neptunian orbit. So, right, how many cult groups have now

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<v Speaker 1>been fascinated by the whole idea of chaos through just

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<v Speaker 1>that one symbol, and they keep doing it. It's self

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<v Speaker 1>reproduce it. That's chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like seeing that redone, but I think it like

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<v Speaker 2>tried to make look like a shape. It's not to explain,

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<v Speaker 2>like a square in there or some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're going to reduce it to I guess

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic or eternal geometry, it would have to be closely

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<v Speaker 1>related to the idea of the Tesseract, right, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a square within a square and a five dimensional

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<v Speaker 1>space that's sort of keeping everything in. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, if you put that chaos symbol inside of

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<v Speaker 1>the Tesseract, you kind of have infinite possibilities because it's

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<v Speaker 1>all a simulation, right, Everything comes out of that one

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<v Speaker 1>just as that whole universe is pressing down upon you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like their answers to one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Shaman seven to eleven over here saying stare at

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<v Speaker 2>her for a few minutes and you'll see a circle

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<v Speaker 2>inside of square, so it's hinting of sacred geometry right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat. I like that. That's almost I'm almost

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<v Speaker 2>positive there's there's some sort of thelemic account that I

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<v Speaker 2>follow on Instagram where I think their logo like looks

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but has like like I said, the square

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<v Speaker 2>or circle both, some shit is in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's always like making like chaos memes or chaos

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<v Speaker 2>magic jokes and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean that would make sense because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of there's a lot of literary and cultic attention

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<v Speaker 1>paid to chaos magic. William ass Burrows came up the

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<v Speaker 1>cut up method, which was like proto chaos magic, where

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<v Speaker 1>we cut out all these little words out of all

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<v Speaker 1>these different things.

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<v Speaker 2>David Bowie got that from him. David Bowie would do

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<v Speaker 2>that with some of his songs because.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, proto chaos magic right there, we're just using other

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<v Speaker 1>varieties of the same idea over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I mean, what do you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>is is that? Is that something you can relate to?

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is the potential of putting your will

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<v Speaker 1>into magical form and we always get caught up in

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on around us, not what we can generate

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<v Speaker 1>out of ourselves. That's the whole idea behind chaos magic,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's self generating. We don't even really have words

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<v Speaker 1>for self generating, you know, anytime we make invocations, we

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<v Speaker 1>make it to gods because we don't have the words

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I'm bringing that out of myself, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>could say evocation, But does that really encompass what you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say, I'm manifesting my will? Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>single word for that. It's almost like we've been cut

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<v Speaker 1>off from the concept that we can self generate our futures.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's kind of what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>For me when I did the sigil, when I I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually big home and say chaos, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>big with that style of making sigils. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>chaos people would I I used more of the meditation

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<v Speaker 2>or mantra method. I wasn't going to be another dude

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<v Speaker 2>in the Oto jerking off the sigils, so I did

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<v Speaker 2>mantras and meditation. So uh. But in my opinion, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of that I almost feel like is almost like

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<v Speaker 2>programming yourself to get you to the means that you're

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of that that kech magic back

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<v Speaker 1>in the first uh Trump term, that all came out

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<v Speaker 1>of chaos magic. I think there was somebody doing a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of cutups and they're like frog memes, let's make

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<v Speaker 1>a frog meme. And so they just started pulling all

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<v Speaker 1>these different images and seeing what took hold, what got

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<v Speaker 1>the most views, what got the most reactions, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they built off of it from there, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>find that, hey, it's related to one of these ancient

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<v Speaker 1>symbols of Kek, you know, and you've got all these

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<v Speaker 1>ties to ancient chaos magic, because that's what it was

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<v Speaker 1>back then. These were the gods before the Ogdod, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Keck and his partner. They were before everything became ordered,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they were like the Titans of the Egyptian pantheon.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that has a lot to do with

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<v Speaker 1>where this power is coming from. Everybody looks at the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympians or the og dot as being like the supreme deities.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the supreme deities of everything coming into form

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<v Speaker 1>before it comes into form. Then you've got the chaos,

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got the Titans, You've got all these other

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<v Speaker 1>different forms of ideas that you could apply to your

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<v Speaker 1>own magical life that people don't pay attention to because

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<v Speaker 1>they're appealing to the form of power that exists today

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<v Speaker 1>instead of going primordially with it. I think chaos magic

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<v Speaker 1>redirects towards the primordial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, that's not even like when I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>that even kind of like you kind of tapping that

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<v Speaker 2>part of the brain that you normally don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>come in contact with, yeah, sub conscious, Yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Crowley talked about that when he was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>these I guess he mentioned I think in book four

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about ESOPs stables and how Esop's fables

418
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<v Speaker 1>can be applied to anything. You just have to plug

419
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<v Speaker 1>in different meanings for the different characters, and then you

420
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<v Speaker 1>get a whole new meaning out of it. That's almost

421
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<v Speaker 1>like chaos magic in a sense, because you're just ascribing

422
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<v Speaker 1>different meanings to the old references that you have, and

423
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<v Speaker 1>you're creating a new narrative in the process.

424
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<v Speaker 2>I got to get some more of his but I

425
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<v Speaker 2>actually don't have that book. It's just crazy as it sounds.

426
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<v Speaker 2>I need to get more of his ship Actually I

427
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<v Speaker 2>don't have believe it.

428
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<v Speaker 1>You probably have all the supplemental books that he put into.

429
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is true too. Yeah, I mean there's a

430
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<v Speaker 2>lot of fucking ship that's separate stuff that's just packed

431
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<v Speaker 2>in there. That's true, right.

432
00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have the not Golden Down, what is it?

433
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<v Speaker 1>What's the other one?

434
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<v Speaker 2>The Golden Door. That initiatory book is fucking.

435
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<v Speaker 1>Jock Gigantic, I got there. The Red Book is that's

436
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<v Speaker 1>not Golden Down. That's uh, the other group that he

437
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 1>was involved with. No, no, it is Golden Down. Yeah, no,

438
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not the OTO. But I have the whole Golden

439
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.599
<v Speaker 1>Don book. They talk about a Naki and Chess in there,

440
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and they talk about they've got a bunch. Have you

441
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<v Speaker 1>ever heard?

442
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<v Speaker 2>That's probably the only chest Trump is really plain.

443
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:03.599
<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point. I look into that. That's

444
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.839
<v Speaker 1>a good reference. No, but I got into Anaki and

445
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Chess and tried to figure it out using you know,

446
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 1>game theory and all the rest of this stuff. There's

447
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 1>very interesting connotations. I don't think the board is shaped correctly.

448
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I have a you know, absolutely nailed down the correct

449
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>geometry for the board, but it's definitely not the sixty

450
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>four square. You know that. Ain't it like they're using

451
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the wrong shaped board for Anaki and chess. But I

452
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 1>think there's so much about a Knakian that they're just

453
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>not telling us. You know, you read through the Anakian dictionary.

454
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<v Speaker 2>I think there's something with that, something with a noke magic.

455
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a lot more advanced than we probably

456
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<v Speaker 2>would think. I think it deals with pinpointing parts of

457
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the abyss of play something. I think it is very

458
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<v Speaker 2>specific in that I could be wrong. That's just a theory.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what I want to mention real quick?

460
00:27:57.279 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>You have letters? Right? Do you have any mail?

461
00:27:59.720 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

462
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<v Speaker 2>All right, before we hit the mail, because I you

463
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>know how people are. As soon as we start to

464
00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 2>wrap up, motherfuckers stop listening. But I wanted to announce this. Unfortunately,

465
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 2>because it's so far, my man headless won't make it.

466
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:13.839
<v Speaker 2>I do think Tyrone might show up though. But uh,

467
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 2>October eighteenth, there is a h We got a booth

468
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<v Speaker 2>with the O Cult rejects, got a booth at Charlie's

469
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Beyond the Belief Expo and that's gonna be a Fort

470
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<v Speaker 2>Myers in Florida October eighteenth, and uh, Brook from Dark

471
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Florida's She's one of the people speaking there. So when

472
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.559
<v Speaker 2>I heard that, I was like, yo, I gotta get

473
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I saw there was boots there. They weren't crazy expensive.

474
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I fucking have to get one. And

475
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<v Speaker 2>to top it off, it's in a Masonic lodge. And

476
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>to make it even better, I got booth number fucking

477
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>thirty three. I was able to pick it. I said,

478
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>I gotta get thirty three front of Masonic lodge. Fuck,

479
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it was either that at seventeen. So yeah, yeah, but

480
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.599
<v Speaker 2>uh so yeah October eighteenth, people, anybody in Florida and

481
00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 2>how far from Fort Myers myself will be there. Hopefully

482
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Tyrone or somebody else will be that. Brook's gonna have

483
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 2>a booth and she's gonna be speaking, and there's gonna

484
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>be other people that she's associated with there, so it

485
00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>should be pretty pretty fucking awesome. It's only a day

486
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's ten bucks to get in the motherfucker,

487
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>So for real. Yeah, I mean it's from like eight

488
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 2>to five and I think it's only ten dollars, So

489
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.160
<v Speaker 2>come check it out.

490
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

491
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, that'll be fun.

492
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you gotta bring your cameras. Oh, you gotta

493
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.119
<v Speaker 1>start live streaming from the booths.

494
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Fucking I gotta do. You have Tyrone goes with me,

495
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>both of us, We'll have like a production crew between

496
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>me and him. The amount of equipment we both have. Dude,

497
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>it's sucking unreal. Actually, me and him could like definitely

498
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>do some serious filming if we're together. Yeah, I mean

499
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:45.880
<v Speaker 2>we did. We did. We were at the Cosmic Summit.

500
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Me and him were roll over the place with those

501
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>ship He's got a camera that he's got another one

502
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.640
<v Speaker 2>set up next to him. He was, Yeah, he was

503
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>just like we had two cameras that I'm using my phone.

504
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 2>People probably thought I was a crackhead of some shit.

505
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love but I love it. This is gonna

506
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 1>be a great time. Let's say so. We've got an

507
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 1>email from Angel Hey, headless Giant. This is somewhat of

508
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 1>a story, more of a imo strange experience. I have

509
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>had a few as astrology readings done in my life book.

510
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 1>This one is free and really went over my head.

511
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether to question my own sanity for

512
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>feeling that there is a deep wisdom here. I don't understand.

513
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<v Speaker 1>This is what they said. The strongest. The strongest planet

514
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>in this chart by far is Urunos. Its closest peak

515
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 1>of activity will begin closer to forty years. Utnos is

516
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>an intellectual planet, so teaching suits you. Saturn and the

517
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Sun are next to Urnos on the timeline. This enhances

518
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>professionalism and charisma. But all this is the future.

519
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Now.

520
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.279
<v Speaker 1>You can only feel and try on these qualities of

521
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 1>yours develop them in yourself. Udernose, in addition to its strengths,

522
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 1>creates many additional charts entities. Such entities have information about

523
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the future and a symbolic language. We can say that

524
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:23.599
<v Speaker 1>they are of a mystical nature. Your moon period is

525
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 1>ending or has recently ended. The Moon is introverted and

526
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 1>sensitive to what is happening inside its space, so it

527
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>could establish a connection within these entities in a dream,

528
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>through intuition, or in some other way. I think as

529
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 1>you grow older you will still be less of a

530
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:48.119
<v Speaker 1>mystic and more of an intellectual. As for your personal life,

531
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>this chart has a lot of energies of Utunos, the Moon,

532
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:57.799
<v Speaker 1>and Saturn. These are solitary planets, the Moon because of security,

533
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Saturn because of self restraint, order knows because of misunderstanding.

534
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>If you understand that you avoid relationships, or that you

535
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>are overtly, overly strict or a little eccentric and abstract,

536
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>then you can retouch it. But partners are also different.

537
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>If there is a mutual romance of future plans, then

538
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 1>personal indicators do not play such a major role. People

539
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>are brought together by these future planets and not by

540
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>current qualities. But your mystical friends can also tell you

541
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>about your future. I don't know how it happens with you,

542
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes it is enough to just ask a question

543
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 1>before falling asleep. Forty is a conditional astrological age. It

544
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>can coincide coincide approximately with the physical I mean not

545
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>in forty years, but the age. It can blossom earlier

546
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.279
<v Speaker 1>if there are conditions for growth, and if there are

547
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 1>no conditions, it may not find ways to manifest and

548
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>remain in potential. If you engage in philosophy, then you

549
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>already have created favorable conditions for Udernose. Now, I think

550
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>it's important to understand what Udernos means. Before there was Chronos,

551
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 1>before there was Jupiter, before there was Zeus, there was Udernos.

552
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>And Uderos was the first sky god who was engaged

553
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>with Gaya to create all of the Titans, right, all

554
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:35.279
<v Speaker 1>of these elementary forces. So Udernos is uranus, right, I

555
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.799
<v Speaker 1>just use the Greek pronunciation because it sounds ridiculous when

556
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.759
<v Speaker 1>you say urinus, it's either urine or on anus.

557
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, pissing out your rays.

558
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Right, But again encapsulates the energy of Uternose as well,

559
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:58.079
<v Speaker 1>because the idea is it's it's the highest of highs

560
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>and the lowest of lows. Right, all of these things

561
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>can be found in Ordernos. It's like transcendence. It's the

562
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 1>sky itself, you know, It's like how do you get

563
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 1>outside of your body? Well, when you're at your highest

564
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>high and when you're at your lowest low, you both

565
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 1>feel disassociated or in the sky or airy, you know.

566
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Intellectual but uh, let's see, and the implementation of Udernos

567
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:28.679
<v Speaker 1>gives energy to the entities generated by it. It does

568
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 1>not happen often in the charts that the strongest planet

569
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>also generates entities, so in your case, one of the few. Therefore,

570
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>your intuition is currently associated with Ordernose. Probably the last

571
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>two years have been a period of awareness of Udernos

572
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and its themes. Accordingly, interesting dreams have appear. In your case,

573
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the intellect is not an obstacle to the subtle world,

574
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>but on the contrary, it's participant. Therefore, mysticism is organic here.

575
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:03.519
<v Speaker 1>And for example, in order to use intuition, you need

576
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>to immerse yourself in the intellectual process, leaving a window

577
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 1>with some degree of edge for attention in the sensation

578
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 1>of subtlety of being. Now, this has two ideas for me. Right, So,

579
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're physically intuitive, you're going to know your way

580
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Speaker 1>around to guard. If you're intellectually intuitive, you're going to

581
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.199
<v Speaker 1>know your way around sources and how to find certain

582
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 1>things and how to understand certain texts. But the two

583
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>are not entirely disconnected, because there is the intuitive aspect

584
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>between the two of them. So, whether you're physically intuitive

585
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and your hands kind of have a mind of their own,

586
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>or you're intellectually intuitive, where you could start to track

587
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 1>all these different figures on its own, there's still that

588
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>sort of guiding sense of intuition. I think that's the

589
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>thing that needs to be focused on. So only I

590
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>find that the idea of intuition is best exemplified by

591
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking about the unknown, right, the backside of the screen,

592
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the outside of the house. Right. This kind of goes

593
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>into my symbol too. It's like chaos magic is ruled

594
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 1>by the gods of the unknown, right, And if you

595
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 1>think about it, there's lots of different gods of the

596
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 1>unknown because you have different parts of the unknown. You

597
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.039
<v Speaker 1>may know a certain part of the unknown. You may know.

598
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 1>But once you've kind of understand the unknown as like

599
00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a physical force, then you can start to manipulate it.

600
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Because if you have no concept that you are connected

601
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to the unknown through time, right, you've got this tether

602
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>bringing you forward into the unknown, right, and you can

603
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>manipulate your end of the tether. You can manipulate that

604
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>end of the unknown. Right. These things are not just related.

605
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.800
<v Speaker 1>You have to use the power of association to create

606
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 1>what you want to see in the world, and by

607
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 1>doing that, you're basically tugging on the tether to go

608
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>in a certain nation or the other.

609
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Right.

610
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Like do you remember the movie Donnie Darko. Yeah, do

611
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you remember when he's walking through the house, he sees

612
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing going in front of him that's

613
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 1>sort of guiding him through all these different possibilities where

614
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>you could go. That's kind of what I see as

615
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 1>that tether between you and the future, You in the

616
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 1>unknown realm. Right, You're eventually going to hit that unknown realm,

617
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 1>but how are you pulling on it? How are you

618
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>shaping it? How are you planning for it? And all

619
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of these would be dictated by these gods of the unknown.

620
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 1>And you can think about the gods of fate as

621
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>being closely related to the gods of the unknown. I mean,

622
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point, you've got your ultimate end, but

623
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>along the path there could be lots of twists and turns. Well,

624
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<v Speaker 1>you know Clotho's weaving, so why not get in touch

625
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>with her to change those results? You know, it's that tether,

626
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.159
<v Speaker 1>it's that string, it's that cord of fate that you're

627
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to sort of manipulate. So why not personify its example?

628
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>That was something I was thinking about, And you know,

629
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.760
<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, so many thoughts with the whole

630
00:38:23.719 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>reason it comes up in the initiation, and uh, I

631
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>just had wondered that, you know, the way I had

632
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 2>looked at the rituals I did, the initiations I did

633
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 2>in the oto. It's just my theory that I do

634
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.199
<v Speaker 2>think you're you're actually traveling from the back of your

635
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 2>eyeball and moving towards the front possibly, and at one

636
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 2>point you get your cord cut, and I have wondered

637
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>if that's actually showing you like not attached to the

638
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 2>source anymore, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're you're

639
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:01.400
<v Speaker 2>not even tapping into the old or far removed already.

640
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>But a lot of times people say that when he

641
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 2>gets cut, that's a good thing. But I was just

642
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 2>like wondering, like in in the play that I was in,

643
00:39:08.639 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 2>is it not a good thing. I don't know, It's

644
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>just you know, I could be totally mistaken on what

645
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I was even going through, and I could be completely wrong,

646
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 2>but it was just something I've thought about.

647
00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you're onto something. I was listening to Mysterious

648
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Universe last Tuesday and they were talking about how, you know,

649
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>they go through the books of these different you know,

650
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 1>New Age people and other other types like that, and

651
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>so they were going through this one New Age book

652
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 1>and they were talking about this woman's experience with this

653
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:44.199
<v Speaker 1>energy vampire that was putting his intentions into people's chakras

654
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 1>in the form of these energy tendrils, right, and so

655
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 1>he would he would target their root chakra and make

656
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:56.159
<v Speaker 1>them obsessed with him by putting his energy into that

657
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 1>chakra point and making them think about him in sexual ways.

658
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's there's kind of a binding thing there.

659
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're trying to direct their fate with these

660
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 1>threads that you're putting into their energy points, you know.

661
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 2>And so the.

662
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Idea there is maybe you could change a person's fate

663
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>by adding or subtracting pieces of these threads. That we're

664
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>all sort of on a line, if you think about

665
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>it multi dimensionally, we're all kind of moving on a

666
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>line compared to higher dimensions. Have you ever heard of

667
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 1>the three body problem?

668
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, from you and a. I think Theresa and Lisa

669
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 2>both told me about this, and every time every time

670
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.480
<v Speaker 2>he gets brought up, I'm like, yeah, I forgot what

671
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 2>it is.

672
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>If you're in the second dimension, you see a sphere

673
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>coming through your dimension as a circle, you know, So

674
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:55.840
<v Speaker 1>as this thing is moving through your dimension, all you

675
00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>see is a circle in front of you, and you're

676
00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>not really thinking about what it looks like in three.

677
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>The mentions well, in a lot of ways, being in

678
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.159
<v Speaker 1>the third dimension, does it reveal what's on the fourth

679
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 1>and fifth dimensions around us, and so we really don't

680
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>have a full examination of the totality of the structure

681
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 1>that's influencing us. You know, just like a thing on

682
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a piece of paper wouldn't know that he's on a

683
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>piece of paper, or what outside the paper even looks like,

684
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.159
<v Speaker 1>because it's very hard to kind of imagine what outside

685
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.599
<v Speaker 1>the third dimension would even look like. The tesser Act

686
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:40.159
<v Speaker 1>is a good example of that. All right, well, let

687
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:45.639
<v Speaker 1>me keep it going here. So Uranus generates entities associated

688
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>with the Sun. Perhaps this is somehow played out in symbols.

689
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>The Sun is a significant planet for you, but your

690
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>youth was mostly spent in the shadow of the moon,

691
00:41:56.519 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and now ambivalent feelings are possible when the image inside

692
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>does not coincide with reactions. I don't know how to

693
00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 1>describe it, but very similar to if there was a

694
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.639
<v Speaker 1>solar religion in the lunar world. If you contact the

695
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:17.960
<v Speaker 1>solar principles, then you may touch the scenario world when

696
00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 1>by illuminating certain parts with the sun, you give them

697
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to the will to manifest. That's sort of like the

698
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>difference between Yesde and Tiffera. That's interesting, but it's it's

699
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like the reflection is below the source, you know, and all.

700
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yes, yes.

701
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Most of the time we're focused on the source, and

702
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 1>we're not looking at the reflection, the body, all the

703
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>rest of the stuff. We're all living up here, you know,

704
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 1>we're not thinking about Hey, every neuron in our body

705
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.639
<v Speaker 1>actually is a sort of brain. Maybe we should be

706
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 1>listening to that. Maybe this body is a partner and

707
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>not just you know, speed bump. Let me see. So mysticism,

708
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>but in different form, can also be present after forty

709
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>entities are the form present after forty entities in the

710
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>irrational night or part of the person everyone encounters in

711
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>their dreams, but their worldview is quite confusing and mosaic.

712
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>But there are also messengers of future scenarios, which in

713
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 1>their presentation may look phantasmogoric and sometimes detailed and precise.

714
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.679
<v Speaker 1>These entities are like children. They do not have the

715
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>same priorities as us and in a different significant events. Therefore,

716
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>behind some grandiose symbolic scenes that leave a feeling of

717
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 1>great importance upon awakening, there may be significant events from

718
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the future for us which we may not even include

719
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>in the comparison. These entities are closely connected with creativity,

720
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and with the unconscious and psychoanalysis, they learn next to

721
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.679
<v Speaker 1>the person. Because after the death of the human body

722
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>they remain alone in physical time. They can remember and

723
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 1>appropriate some attributes of the person's personality. The cult of

724
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the Ancestors built on this, or they may not remember

725
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>anything and become attached to a place or to physical objects.

726
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Almost all magical practice is connected with interaction and the

727
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>most powerful and long existing personalities. In a sense, these

728
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>entities can be considered a soul. They have many examples

729
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>in culture of how a person is disposed of a

730
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>soul exchanged lost sould. On one hand, they are in

731
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 1>an integral part of us right brain personality, and on

732
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the other hand, for us they can be an object.

733
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:07.280
<v Speaker 1>In this sense, we can have several souls or none

734
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.639
<v Speaker 1>at all, depending on the birth chart. I think from

735
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>this description it will become clearer to you what entities

736
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I wrote about in the comments. Of course, any interaction

737
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>with them can be called mysticism, because they exist in

738
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.880
<v Speaker 1>a subtle, ephemeral world, But in fact they are our

739
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 1>real children and we are responsible for them. I forgot

740
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>to mention that in philosophy this side of reality was

741
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>presented by Rousseau and Nietzsche, and like all true consistent philosophers,

742
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 1>by the end of their lives, they themselves were moved

743
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:46.559
<v Speaker 1>to the irrational side of being. I know, this is long,

744
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>but fairly interesting and something I have never heard of before.

745
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of anything similar to these ideas?

746
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I think so there's a lot of different philosophies at

747
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.559
<v Speaker 1>work and how he's describing this stuff, but it's mostly

748
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.679
<v Speaker 1>coherent her meticism, you know. Yeah, Like that's what I

749
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>would call that stuff. That was her medicism. He was

750
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:13.360
<v Speaker 1>describing the son, he was describing the system, he was

751
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>laying out the boundaries, and he was talking about interaction.

752
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:23.559
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what her medicism means. It could be

753
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>done with any subject too, Like you could be talking

754
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>about physical science, or you could be talking about mental science,

755
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 1>or you could be talking about magic. All of it

756
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.880
<v Speaker 1>applies to her medicism because it's those same basic principles

757
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that you're describing. You know, what are your thoughts? What'd

758
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you think of it?

759
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Like you said a lot of her medicism. I don't

760
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 2>tell you the truth, where did that come? I don't

761
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 2>even remember from the beginning what that even came from,

762
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>though you know what I'm saying, Like, was that just

763
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:58.320
<v Speaker 2>like someone's thoughts?

764
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Was that, like this was her astrology? Really?

765
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, all right, because I was just like, this

766
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 2>isn't a dream, because yeah, it was just like, but

767
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.800
<v Speaker 2>where what started this off? Okay?

768
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Right now? She was talking about Uranus and the influences

769
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of Uranus in her life, and this astrologer was giving

770
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>her all these examples of how Urinus is going to

771
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>impact the rest of her chart, and it was very hermetic.

772
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Very well, the way the way everything was being said

773
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 2>seemed like very cabalistic to me.

774
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, well that's part of her medicine.

775
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well they that would be twist in

776
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.119
<v Speaker 2>there with her medicism for sure, for sure. Yeah, her

777
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>medicism with that then planetary stuff. Yeah, all sorts of

778
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>things mixed in. Yeah, and uh, I'll be totally honest

779
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 2>with you though, when it comes to the anything beyond

780
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>the seventh classical, you know that I used. I'm really

781
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 2>not good with so a lot of this stuff. I

782
00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>was just like, Okay, it was all news to me.

783
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 2>That's why I was just like, where did I know?

784
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 2>This isn't a dream?

785
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Though?

786
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Like what started this? Because I forgot it was alone.

787
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think I think you can benefit a lot

788
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>from learning the mythology because they don't stray from the

789
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>mythology and how they name the planets past the seven right,

790
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 1>so if you know about us, he's also called Anu

791
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>in the Babylonian. This is where we get the Anu

792
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Naki children of the sky. Stay in concept, that's the

793
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:24.480
<v Speaker 1>sky god, that's the original. So you know, there's there's

794
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so much you can learn just by going to the

795
00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 1>mythology and then going back to the planets and being like, okay,

796
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:34.199
<v Speaker 1>well I understand how that fits Neptune. You know, it's

797
00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a Roman god, right, and it's the god of the ocean,

798
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's a big blue planet, and it's a certain

799
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>size and all the rest of these characteristics because it's

800
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the I think it was the Vatican that's that's choosing

801
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 1>these names. They're keeping this occult traditional live behind the scenes.

802
00:48:50.920 --> 00:49:04.920
<v Speaker 1>They have an inner order that it was a long reading, Yeah, dear,

803
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 1>I think I skipped around a little bit too, but

804
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Angel. I think that was a really good

805
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.760
<v Speaker 1>example of how you can start to draw out uh

806
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:18.760
<v Speaker 1>associations with the things that you're given, because that's The

807
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.679
<v Speaker 1>whole point is like, you're never going to get the

808
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:25.119
<v Speaker 1>totality of stuff, But if you can draw out your

809
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>associations and then make those associations part of your perspective,

810
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>because you're going to find that you're drawn more to

811
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:37.079
<v Speaker 1>certain associations as opposed to others. And in that drawing,

812
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.239
<v Speaker 1>you're actually learning about yourself and your subconscious mind and

813
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 1>what brings you to those conclusions. So you know, look

814
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 1>them up, figure these things out, because I think there's

815
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of language gap between the people who study

816
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.320
<v Speaker 1>this full time and the people who are complete laymen,

817
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:59.159
<v Speaker 1>and so you could be saying the most wise shit imaginable.

818
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>But if you don't have the bridge between it, who's

819
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna even know? You know. That's one of the sad

820
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.840
<v Speaker 1>things I see repeating over and over again. People don't

821
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:09.360
<v Speaker 1>have occult literacy.

822
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 2>No, No, not at all. I didn't for the longest

823
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 2>time either. I thought I had an idea, and I

824
00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 2>still didn't.

825
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I think occult literacy depends on your ability to disassociate

826
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 1>symbols from good and evil. Right, everything has a good aspect,

827
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 1>everything has an evil aspect. We're looking at words on paper.

828
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 1>We don't need to make those associations. Just understand what

829
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.079
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at. Save good and evil for people's actions

830
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to words and symbols on paper. Right, if

831
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:50.559
<v Speaker 1>somebody's drawing the Seal of Lilith, maybe understand why they're

832
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<v Speaker 1>drawing the Seal of Lilith instead of screaming, pointing and

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<v Speaker 1>saying vampire. Yeah, probably not a good idea if you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Things, I'm screaming process church. That ship doesn't tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what the fuck's going on? Know, That's why I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta go find out what magic is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's not that hard. Just disassociate go to evil

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<v Speaker 1>for a second. Understand these are tools. They're not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt you. You can read them and then spiritually

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<v Speaker 1>cleanse yourself of all the unclean spirits. There's a process

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<v Speaker 1>to this stuff, and it's not necessarily a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>Satanists and Luciferians all upsetting. Maybe that's why they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get your goat. They're getting your goat. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>understand that you got the baffro thatt.

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<v Speaker 2>They're goating yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? Maybe they're not really Nazis. Maybe they're saying they're

848
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<v Speaker 1>Nazis and they're associated with Nazis to make you upset

849
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<v Speaker 1>as that works too, you know, it's Operation Chaos. Back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Chaos Star again, how they operate.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of stuff that if you're still looking

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<v Speaker 2>at it and you're like, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>this information is coming from the government itself, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to no wondering because if the ship with this shit's

855
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<v Speaker 2>not even true but believed, it causes chaos regardless, and

856
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<v Speaker 2>that person's name will burn an image into everybody's fucking

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<v Speaker 2>head and they'll live on as a god, regardless how

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<v Speaker 2>they're being talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>For every ideology, there is a scapegoat. For every ideology,

860
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<v Speaker 1>there is a scapegoat, and there's lots of scapegoats out

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<v Speaker 1>there for them to take their wrath out on. And

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<v Speaker 1>you to say, good job, even though you were the

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<v Speaker 1>one who was trying to get the evil people who

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<v Speaker 1>are now taking it out on the scapegoat because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, man, I know this is deep stuff, but this

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<v Speaker 3>is the kind of thinking you got to engage in here,

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<v Speaker 3>because we're just trying to say it could be a distraction,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be planned.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not one hundred committed saying it's one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. We're taking in information. I just got a

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<v Speaker 1>lightning flash.

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<v Speaker 2>Which to me, it's time to show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time, yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just plug it. Hell yeah yeah, let me

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<v Speaker 2>plug it again again real quick. Octoba eighteenth Fort Myers

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<v Speaker 2>at fuck, I forgot so many Sonic Lodge I threw

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<v Speaker 2>up the I can't believe it. And when I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that too, I was like, oh, I have to go now,

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<v Speaker 2>just so people could talk shit about me. H Octoby

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<v Speaker 2>eighteenth Fort Myers in Florida. I threw up the I

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<v Speaker 2>threw up the link inside the Chad'll probably added to

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<v Speaker 2>the episode and I'll start going forward. I'll try to

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<v Speaker 2>edit to the show notes. But yeah, uh Brook will

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<v Speaker 2>be speaking there. She'll have a table as well, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have a table there as well. I think Tyrone

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<v Speaker 2>might be joining me. If there's any other you know,

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<v Speaker 2>other occult rejects too, I think it's like whatever, it's

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<v Speaker 2>ten bucks to get in, so I mean they could

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<v Speaker 2>possibly maybe somebody else may be able to come as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only ten bucks to get in, like I was

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, So even if you're a fan and you're

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<v Speaker 2>in the area and the speakers aren't for you. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really only ten bucks to come and hang out and

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit with us. I mean, think about it now, so

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<v Speaker 2>come check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a lot of fun. And uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>I were you, I would be there because you might

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<v Speaker 1>get to see the kiddy live oh yo as we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, if you came, I would definitely want you to

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<v Speaker 2>bring the cat oh man. Yeah, unfortunately I think you

903
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<v Speaker 2>your father from it than I am. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't expect you to come, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely bring my dude over there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you guys for joining us, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you again on the next Headless's Magical Mailbag. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much later