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Speaker 3: I want to welcome you to this. We are like
Speaker 3: on a roll, so every once in a while we
Speaker 3: take down a path where there I'll go down a
Speaker 3: pathway and that I'll meet somebody that has to be
Speaker 3: believe it or not, I would not have guessed this.
Speaker 3: Tristan Stiwiki. We're starting to chit chat and we discovered
Speaker 3: we're kind of in the same lane about things that
Speaker 3: we have at least one foot one toe in esoteric consciousness,
Speaker 3: what we do intuition, and then we got this other
Speaker 3: foot in pop culture, and so Tristan was talking about
Speaker 3: how our pop culture there are people in that arena
Speaker 3: right that are doing great things. They stand for something,
Speaker 3: they're authentic. Today's show is literally the first of several
Speaker 3: we're going to be doing together. It's called Beyond the Spotlight,
Speaker 3: Defining Legacy and pop Culture. Today, we're going to feature
Speaker 3: several women. We're going to be talking about Scarlett Johansson
Speaker 3: or Scarlett Johansen, however you say it. We're going to
Speaker 3: be talking about Mindy Colleen. We're going to be talking
Speaker 3: about Mindy. We're going to be talking about Natalie Portman.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be talking about Viola Davis, and if we
Speaker 3: have time, we're going to talk Kerrie Washington in there.
Speaker 3: And so we hope to share with you one why
Speaker 3: we decided to do this, why we decided to look
Speaker 3: at legacy building, why these four people. Now, I must say,
Speaker 3: and justin you'll agree with me. Narrowing it down to
Speaker 3: four people that was really challenging for me. What was
Speaker 3: that like for you?
Speaker 4: Impossible truly, because there's so many incredible women doing that
Speaker 4: are exceptional role models. And then when I dug into
Speaker 4: their history and the things I'd forgotten they've done in
Speaker 4: their career, it was just like it was. It was
Speaker 4: such a gift these last two weeks to look at.
Speaker 3: This, and in future shows we do on this, we're
Speaker 3: going to continue this. We're going to be featuring women
Speaker 3: from different generations, right for example, you know, one of
Speaker 3: the things we'll be talking about are the foundation creators.
Speaker 3: Who are these people? The Jane Fondas, the Shirley mcclans,
Speaker 3: the Alfred Wooders who I got to do a music
Speaker 3: video with. Who are these people and what did they
Speaker 3: do to what they achieved. We're also going to be
Speaker 3: looking at the younger generation of people, you know, Zendeia,
Speaker 3: others like that, who have carved out a place in time.
Speaker 3: You know, I think Rachel Levin Woods for me. I
Speaker 3: know she's not doing very much now, but her role
Speaker 3: in Westworld was pivotal for me, and I was so
Speaker 3: disappointed when that stopped. And then we're going to be
Speaker 3: going to I think they called what the heck do
Speaker 3: we call them gen z Ers or the g I
Speaker 3: don't know, like the fifty ish. We're going to be
Speaker 3: looking at those people. You know, what is the history
Speaker 3: of the magnificent beauty that's called Chortleast, then how about
Speaker 3: the people in that generation which we don't talk about.
Speaker 3: How about those women that have created productions, have their
Speaker 3: own production company. You sit there and you think you
Speaker 3: got a woman that played in a show called Legally Blonde,
Speaker 3: and you think, well, what she doing? Well, we'll tell
Speaker 3: you what she's doing. So we plan to take this
Speaker 3: out and once we're done with this series, if I
Speaker 3: can convince Tristan and we may take a look at
Speaker 3: women in sports, we may take a look at women
Speaker 3: in leadership and other places. We may take a look
Speaker 3: at why did HP really fire Carly Fiorino. But today
Speaker 3: let's start with this our first out of the gay
Speaker 3: Tristan is is someone that caught my attention and I
Speaker 3: can't really tell you why. I mean, I think there
Speaker 3: are many many things that I saw, There are many
Speaker 3: many things that kind of pulled me in if we
Speaker 3: could say that, and it's Scarlett Johansson. I'm want to
Speaker 3: start out with her because what got my attention about her?
Speaker 3: Besides like the movie Lucy, which got mixed reviews, But
Speaker 3: then again, they're doing a second Lucy too. I guess
Speaker 3: it was what she stood for. But here we are.
Speaker 3: For decades, Hollywood metrics measured a star's legacy. They did
Speaker 3: it by the height of the box office and the
Speaker 3: box office returns. Now it's not just box office, it's
Speaker 3: box office and streaming sales, put it all together, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it. But it's digital as well.
Speaker 3: But Scarlett redefined the calculation. How did she do it?
Speaker 3: Some say she weaponized her commercial power to drag the
Speaker 3: largest media conglomerate into a legal reckoning. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And she didn't just do it alone. There were others
Speaker 3: and a stone followed suit. But I want to talk
Speaker 3: about Missiohansson for a minute. She did what generations of
Speaker 3: actors before her couldn't. They just couldn't. She forced the
Speaker 3: system to pay its workers fairly in the digital age,
Speaker 3: that's just a small thing. And then she also no
Speaker 3: longer became a movie store. She became an architect of
Speaker 3: the modern modern entertainment industry. And let's get into it.
Speaker 3: Look this powerhouse actress, producer, fierce advocate. She changed the landscape.
Speaker 3: She took on Hollywood's labor standards with Disney over contractual
Speaker 3: breach and actively led jumped out of their major industrywide
Speaker 3: resistant campaigns to protect She did two major things. Well,
Speaker 3: let's talk about Disney trusting if we could, because I
Speaker 3: know you are aware of this. But when I saw
Speaker 3: the headlines on it, I said, okay, what was that about?
Speaker 3: It was historic and also my area of work that
Speaker 3: I researched her psychological contracts, and she's a perfect example
Speaker 3: of saying no, we had an agreement. So this lawsuit
Speaker 3: got the attention of seeing Scarlett Johanson more than just
Speaker 3: an actor for a moment there, and it was a
Speaker 3: breach of contract. She challenged the dual streaming theatrical release,
Speaker 3: that model that undercut back end box office compensation by
Speaker 3: forcing a massless era settlement. She went there, she didn't compromise,
Speaker 3: and she didn't negotiate down. And so what happened with
Speaker 3: that is at the painter they made an arrangement with her,
Speaker 3: And the small details of it are simple. I agree
Speaker 3: with you that we're going to take your movie, we're
Speaker 3: going to put it out there, and we're going to
Speaker 3: let it ride out there before we pull it out
Speaker 3: and put it on streaming. But then I don't do that.
Speaker 3: I pull it out and I put it on streaming
Speaker 3: and guess what, You've lost fifty million dollars. Now, how
Speaker 3: many actors would have drawn a line in the sand.
Speaker 3: But what do you make of that, Tristan, What do
Speaker 3: you make of just that one action? Before we talk
Speaker 3: a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's so much in that. I think
Speaker 4: we've heard so much and have seen how women have
Speaker 4: been treated by Hollywood, and so especially for a woman
Speaker 4: that has helped build this monolith of the Marvel universe,
Speaker 4: you know, that has been kind of since the beginning,
Speaker 4: helping kind of create this this juggernaut. Then to go, no,
Speaker 4: I know my worth and my value and to stand
Speaker 4: with that is challenging on a human level, right to
Speaker 4: really sit in that. There's also discourse right about worth
Speaker 4: about you know, and especially when it comes to paying women,
Speaker 4: about oh don't you have enough women that are actresses,
Speaker 4: Like I remember when Julia Roberts was paid twenty million
Speaker 4: dollars for Aaron Brockovich, Right, huge discourse about that, and
Speaker 4: it's like sitting with the truth of that is a
Speaker 4: lot of money. The actors and celebrities make quite a
Speaker 4: lot of money. As do athletes, and she knows her worth,
Speaker 4: she knows what she brings to the table, and she
Speaker 4: knows that the law was behind her ultimately, and so
Speaker 4: it would have been such a disservice to herself based
Speaker 4: on her actions to go, no, I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to take action. I'm just gonna also for
Speaker 4: the safety of my career. You know, my family would
Speaker 4: ever to just accept a situation that was unacceptable And
Speaker 4: how many women have made that choice, which is so
Speaker 4: hard in that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, she's true to form. So we're
Speaker 3: talking about the people that stand up, but we're talking
Speaker 3: about legacies. So the other thing she did, which is
Speaker 3: true to form, it sticks to the whole idea, is
Speaker 3: that there is a thing. You know, there's a scraping,
Speaker 3: a scrapping, scraping of copyright architect or artist content. And
Speaker 3: it's a thing, it really is. It's and that's why
Speaker 3: today the images you see in the show are not
Speaker 3: of the artists, because I would be violating that. The
Speaker 3: images that we are showing in this show. I have
Speaker 3: paid for the images. They're provided to us through a
Speaker 3: subscription I have. They are license free. So every clip
Speaker 3: we show in this show is in that vein. None
Speaker 3: of these clips are of these actors. And so she
Speaker 3: came out and saying stealing is an innovation. She created
Speaker 3: a movement. It was a co ed, aggressive coalition of
Speaker 3: I think around eight hundred other entertainers demanding that tech
Speaker 3: giant stop violating copyright artistic content and how are they
Speaker 3: doing it? You know, she looked at this with no,
Speaker 3: it's not okay for you to take that clip of
Speaker 3: me and then throw it through an AI machine and
Speaker 3: call that new new imagery. So she's true to form.
Speaker 3: The last thing I will say about her and then
Speaker 3: we'll move on, is she has been a major advocate
Speaker 3: for gender bias. She speaks prominently at events about this.
Speaker 3: You know, she is in the Women's March to demand
Speaker 3: federal protections for autonomy. But these are the things that
Speaker 3: you don't talk about when you see her. You do
Speaker 3: see it in her production company, you know, you do
Speaker 3: see it in eco consciousness for example, vegan skincare and
Speaker 3: things like that, But mostly we see her on the
Speaker 3: big screen. Most of us. We were shocked spoiler alert.
Speaker 3: I was shocked when Black Widow didn't make it, But
Speaker 3: then I was happy that they went back in time
Speaker 3: for that. So this is just one example, and there
Speaker 3: were career defining roles for her. I mean, we think
Speaker 3: about her as a couple of different things, but I
Speaker 3: think the one of her original movies, so what was
Speaker 3: that called Girl with the Pearly Earring or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know, we know her for Black Widow, we know
Speaker 3: her for Jojo Rabbit, Lost in Transition, something else. But
Speaker 3: when you take a look at the depth of her
Speaker 3: and what she can do, her David Versus Goliath moment
Speaker 3: transcends all of it. So who's on your list? Very much?
Speaker 4: So, No, She's such a great kind of jumping off point.
Speaker 4: So mine is Natalie Portman. And I value humor, and
Speaker 4: Scarlet's also hilarious, like her ability to do accents and
Speaker 4: her ability to show up and write and make fun
Speaker 4: of herself is gorgeous. And Natalie also embodies that trade,
Speaker 4: which I really admire. And so I'll never forget where
Speaker 4: I was seeing Natalie on Saturday Night Live right doing
Speaker 4: a rap about going to Harvard right, and just it
Speaker 4: was so fun. It was just everything you'd want someone
Speaker 4: to be. And what I really admire about her is
Speaker 4: her ability to take a career as a child actress
Speaker 4: in Star Wars and that be just a small footnote
Speaker 4: in her legacy. And that's absolutely wild because I don't
Speaker 4: know that that same transformation has happened for someone like
Speaker 4: Hayden Christensen, who's incredible, But I feel like Star Wars
Speaker 4: is always kind of the second or third bullet. And
Speaker 4: for Natalie, she's really taken her time in the spotlight
Speaker 4: to be an advocate. You know, we both love sports,
Speaker 4: and I loved watching the co founding of Angel City,
Speaker 4: right how important you know, really investing in women and
Speaker 4: women's sports. She's also a human and animal rights activist,
Speaker 4: and she's really picked roles that have been both internal,
Speaker 4: little cerebral, and also fun to explore I think for her,
Speaker 4: which is really really lovely. Now, what's interesting about her
Speaker 4: leg Oh, did you have any highlights that you wanted
Speaker 4: to share that?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: I want to just I want to just say to
Speaker 3: you that you know what I didn't know about her
Speaker 3: until I did this, was she and I have something
Speaker 3: in common. We both supported PETA. I mean, she's a
Speaker 3: major animal activist and you know you could read up
Speaker 3: on that, you could see it. But she's gone through
Speaker 3: documentary on SI. There's's so many different things that you
Speaker 3: can find. But when you partner with Peta you know
Speaker 3: PTA folks Peter dot org, you can find out a
Speaker 3: lot of things from there. You know what you do now,
Speaker 3: which you raise the bar on expose as from a
Speaker 3: number of different places. But the other thing too that
Speaker 3: we don't know about her is part of her feminism
Speaker 3: and her social justice. What did you find out about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she's really there was literally because I
Speaker 4: use Wikipedia as a source again to try to be
Speaker 4: as right as like ethical as possible about this is
Speaker 4: her ongoing investment starting in like two thousand and six,
Speaker 4: two thousand and five, and perhaps her even earlier accounts
Speaker 4: that maybe weren't documented. But what I loved it is
Speaker 4: it's literally been like twenty five plus years of showing
Speaker 4: up consistently in a way that is so beautiful, where
Speaker 4: she was just like, no, this is important to me,
Speaker 4: and I'm not only going to put my time, my energy,
Speaker 4: and my money to this, but I'm going to stand
Speaker 4: up as the face of it wherein it matters as
Speaker 4: such as a co founder for angel City. And that's legacy, right.
Speaker 4: It's a big word like it feels really loaded, but
Speaker 4: that's all it is is where you spend your time,
Speaker 4: your energy, and your money consistently every single day. And
Speaker 4: I think that's why it's so interesting. Unless you had
Speaker 4: more to talk about before I go into a little
Speaker 4: bit of a misst Oh Go go is around Black
Speaker 4: Swan and when so, I have taken dance classes. I've
Speaker 4: had the honor and the privilege of taking dance classes
Speaker 4: with some of the greatest ballerinas to ever exist, Megan
Speaker 4: Fairchild and Catherine Morgan, and I've had time to learn
Speaker 4: from them and to see them on stage, and it's
Speaker 4: been incredible. And you know, there were some conversations during
Speaker 4: the Oscar speech and just in the zeitgeist during this
Speaker 4: time about how much Natalie danced on screen versus her
Speaker 4: body double, and I feel like there was an opportunity
Speaker 4: to perhaps give more credit to her body double, perhaps
Speaker 4: give more credit to vallerinas, and the idea that both
Speaker 4: Natalie's training in this time, you know, for many months,
Speaker 4: five to seven hours a day, honoring that journey, which
Speaker 4: is heart right, that's a commitment, and also honoring that
Speaker 4: you can't learn something at that level in just a
Speaker 4: few months. To a few years. It's decades, right, decades
Speaker 4: of bleeding like through toe shoes. It's you know, constant.
Speaker 4: Especially in the early two thousands, the dance world was
Speaker 4: incredibly challenging in terms of how they treated dancers, and
Speaker 4: that's still at a place that needs to get better.
Speaker 4: And so when I think about how, like Matt Damon's
Speaker 4: been talking about his female body double for The Odyssey,
Speaker 4: I'm just so impressed and how he talked about it,
Speaker 4: And I really wish there was an opportunity that Natalie
Speaker 4: had taken to kind of credit those because it's a
Speaker 4: group project. Ultimately making a film as a group project
Speaker 4: and honoring everyone's commitment and collaboration is just a beautiful
Speaker 4: kind of way to support that that feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, when you think about these folks, right,
Speaker 3: you think about, you know, some of the things they said.
Speaker 3: I know one thing about Natalie, and I'll go back
Speaker 3: to Scarland in a minute, is her quote about when
Speaker 3: you get older, you realize it's a lot less about
Speaker 3: your place in the world, but your place in you.
Speaker 3: What I mean, I have to think about that one. Tristan,
Speaker 3: how about you? Yeah, But you know, it's kind of
Speaker 3: like we're talking about people that somehow have influenced you
Speaker 3: and influenced me. I'm I'm a big fan of the
Speaker 3: big screen. I've been going to movies since as young
Speaker 3: as I can remember in awe at the original Godzilla films,
Speaker 3: if you will, and so have you. But these folks
Speaker 3: have now become to me more than that. And you know,
Speaker 3: we do have social media to thank for that, don't
Speaker 3: we absolutely?
Speaker 4: And we also have the documentaries. I feel like we've
Speaker 4: gotten more behind the scenes into projects they care about
Speaker 4: because they're able to fund that or really showcase it.
Speaker 4: Because honestly, whenever I see something like that, either through
Speaker 4: social media or a documentary, I go, oh, can I
Speaker 4: do more? Where can I do more? Where am I
Speaker 4: falling short or not showing up for what I believe in?
Speaker 4: And that's beautiful introspection everyone should have frequently, you know,
Speaker 4: every couple of months in a minimum.
Speaker 3: So you know, when you think about this for yourself
Speaker 3: and you think about you think about the many, many
Speaker 3: ways your heart has been touched. Let me ask you
Speaker 3: this question. When you take a look at this and
Speaker 3: you look at Natalie Porter and I can hear you
Speaker 3: know when you speak the words you're speaking, you know,
Speaker 3: you're talking about somebody that you related with. You know,
Speaker 3: what was it that really got to you about her?
Speaker 3: And by the way, I do believe she served in
Speaker 3: the military. There's other things about her, right, but she's
Speaker 3: also a human right human's rights activist, right absolutely.
Speaker 4: What I think initially, what like I felt such a
Speaker 4: connection to is her love of learning and that she
Speaker 4: knew that being an actor was part of her life
Speaker 4: and not something she was going to fully invest in.
Speaker 4: Because I remember seeing photos of her on set reading
Speaker 4: books and still studying and still going to Harvard and
Speaker 4: doing all these things. And I just had such admiration
Speaker 4: for someone like, No, I am multifaceted, and it doesn't
Speaker 4: matter if I'm in the largest franchise and the biggest
Speaker 4: movie ever made, Like I'm going to be who I am,
Speaker 4: And I just go, dang, if she can do that, Like,
Speaker 4: what's my excuse? You know what I mean? Like, I
Speaker 4: have a lot less barriers than.
Speaker 3: She does that. Yeah, I mean, you know, we've selected
Speaker 3: these people and then we did our research on them,
Speaker 3: and now here we are. And what I find about
Speaker 3: the process is the more I dug, the more I
Speaker 3: looked at I had a question that I don't know
Speaker 3: that I can answer today, and I'm not sure you
Speaker 3: can either, But how was it they got involved in this?
Speaker 3: And then when we take a look back at their
Speaker 3: upbringing a bit right, and you see some glimpses, and
Speaker 3: of course we have to be very mindful of the
Speaker 3: sources we have used, right, and they have been validated.
Speaker 3: But when we look at this, we see how they're upbringing,
Speaker 3: how their childhood may have influenced that. You know, what
Speaker 3: was it about? You know, miss Portman's upbringing? What did
Speaker 3: she grow up with? It's the same thing when I
Speaker 3: look back and Scarlett Trehansson's upbringing and what did she
Speaker 3: where did she come? Where'd you come from? Like you
Speaker 3: start to look at that and you find out worn
Speaker 3: in Manhattan, So okay, what does that mean to anybody?
Speaker 3: But she also grew up in a politically conscious working
Speaker 3: class household. And you know, when you look at Natalie Portman,
Speaker 3: you could see the impact of what shaped her. Right,
Speaker 3: would you say that's true?
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially education being such a theme that she carries
Speaker 4: like kind of throughout her legacy. You can really see
Speaker 4: the impact of that importance. And then when we're ready
Speaker 4: to talk about Mindy. I think that's a beautiful segue
Speaker 4: because that's really the station of her life's work.
Speaker 3: And didn't Natalie go to Harvard. I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's true. That's true, yeah, but it is a seguay
Speaker 3: to talk about Mindy. Let's talk about Mindy for a
Speaker 3: little bit because unlike I think personally, unlike the rest
Speaker 3: of them, she has kept a lower profile, and we're
Speaker 3: going to discuss why that, why she's doing that. So
Speaker 3: what was it about Mindy that, like you said, I
Speaker 3: got to talk about her.
Speaker 4: I've always admired Mindy through my connection through the office.
Speaker 4: So when the Office was at its height, you know,
Speaker 4: I was in high school and I absolutely became obsessed
Speaker 4: with it and I loved seeing her being a writer.
Speaker 4: I was actually in my time where I wanted to
Speaker 4: be a writer for SNL and so I've studying all
Speaker 4: comedy writers and like she I just admired so much.
Speaker 4: And then I've really loved is like she is true
Speaker 4: to who she is. She's like I love pop culture.
Speaker 4: I'm going to talk about it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: There are things that like she hasn't changed as core
Speaker 4: elements of her which I embodied to make sure that
Speaker 4: I'm not either. And so when I think about kind
Speaker 4: of the impact that she's had, it has been lower profile,
Speaker 4: but no less profound, exactly. Yeah, it was so important
Speaker 4: for me to talk about her because, like she was
Speaker 4: just on with Amy Poehler, and Amy made sure to
Speaker 4: call out one of my first points, which I did know,
Speaker 4: but it's great to hear, is that she wrote more
Speaker 4: episodes of the Office than anyone else. You know, she
Speaker 4: wrote Dwali, the Dundees, The Injury, She was the only
Speaker 4: woman on the staff of eight, you know. And then
Speaker 4: at really the height of it being challenging to have
Speaker 4: a network show, and then kind of I would say,
Speaker 4: the last heyday of network TV, even she got her
Speaker 4: own show, the Mini Project, you know, and it lasted
Speaker 4: for six seasons. It's incredible, Like truly, and you know.
Speaker 3: What I love about this is you and I had
Speaker 3: a conversation about authenticity. Actually that's how we started, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: We were talking about authenticity, and one of the things
Speaker 3: we were talking about is those people that struck us
Speaker 3: in that way. Yeah, like we see them in one
Speaker 3: way and we don't see them in five hundred other ways, Right,
Speaker 3: and so as we talk about them, we have a
Speaker 3: conversation about how they stand out, what hits them about
Speaker 3: that How important was that connection to authenticity for you?
Speaker 4: It's everything because there's oftentimes where I'll see someone's work,
Speaker 4: you know, on the big screen the small screen, and
Speaker 4: I go like, okay, but it didn't resonate or okay,
Speaker 4: I can oh I like them in that movie, right,
Speaker 4: that's a common one. And then you go, oh, no,
Speaker 4: I see what they've built. That's a very different experience
Speaker 4: where you go, oh, I see the themes they're exploring
Speaker 4: in their writing or in their projects, and those themes,
Speaker 4: those messy coming of age stories, like Mindy talks about
Speaker 4: cultural and family identity, women and young girl's ambition, especially
Speaker 4: in Running Point, how she talks about women's ambition and
Speaker 4: kind of the experiences we go through is especially as
Speaker 4: we climb up the ladder, never felt more seen, to
Speaker 4: be honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of what we're talking
Speaker 3: about today is really we're going to talk about this
Speaker 3: at the end of the show, but one of the
Speaker 3: things we're all going to talk about is how all
Speaker 3: of these women relate to a theme. Before we do that,
Speaker 3: we're going to take a short break. But before the break,
Speaker 3: Tristan tell people how they can find out about you,
Speaker 3: your show, all of the above, because outside of just
Speaker 3: doing this gig with me, you actually have your own show.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: Yes, It's Musings and Modalities, which is the same name
Speaker 4: as my business. I have incredible female founders and we
Speaker 4: talk about their journey and as well as how they
Speaker 4: explore authenticity and legacy through their everyday work.
Speaker 3: And for those of you out there, I wanted to
Speaker 3: just leave you with this about Mindy because it actually
Speaker 3: talks to what Tristan is saying. It's this one one
Speaker 3: friend with whom you have a lot in common with,
Speaker 3: is better than three with whom you struggle to find
Speaker 3: things to talk about. Let's take a very short break
Speaker 3: and we come back. We got more. We're going to
Speaker 3: be talking about them. Yep, we're going to get right
Speaker 3: into it. He's got another one, and so do want
Speaker 3: and I think you'll find what's interesting about these next
Speaker 3: two and how we relate to them. Let's take a
Speaker 3: short break, everybody, We'll be right back, all right.
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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, welcome back. You are listening to our show
Speaker 3: Doctor Patcho and joining me as my co host today
Speaker 3: is the most incredible Tristans Tawiki and I want to
Speaker 3: make sure you have Tristan's information because she has a show,
Speaker 3: and then we'll get back into it one more time. Tristan,
Speaker 3: how do people work with you? Tell people about your
Speaker 3: show a little bit and about the work you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely so. My show is Musings and Modalities, and
Speaker 4: I meet with incredible women founders that are you know
Speaker 4: they're in it they're in the trenches. They've they've built businesses,
Speaker 4: they've sold businesses. You know, they're at different phases and
Speaker 4: they want to share kind of their lessons and what
Speaker 4: they've learned and then how they can their journey, can
Speaker 4: help you know, support you in your journey. And they're
Speaker 4: working with me. That's at musingsmmodalities dot com and that's
Speaker 4: a thirty minute legacy call where we talk about where
Speaker 4: you spend your time, your energy, and your money and
Speaker 4: how we can make sure that that is, you know,
Speaker 4: in the direction of alignment and where you want it
Speaker 4: to actually be going.
Speaker 3: What's fascinating is I was looking at Mindy Mindy Colling,
Speaker 3: and what I what I noticed is like I typed
Speaker 3: something and I copied and pasted something and I left
Speaker 3: of thenng and CALLI fears God. But there's something I
Speaker 3: want to just bring back to with you on this
Speaker 3: that I didn't know about her. I didn't know that
Speaker 3: she was a phenomenal writer, that she wrote more episodes
Speaker 3: of the Office than anyone else.
Speaker 4: It's incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean see, none of us would know that.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't know that behind the scenes, there's such depth
Speaker 3: to the people we're talking about and you know, it's
Speaker 3: so interesting to see that. But part of this is
Speaker 3: also her acknowledgment and honoring of culture and family identity.
Speaker 3: Isn't that true?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean to put together an episode like Dwalie
Speaker 4: and to bring that to NBC, you know, in the
Speaker 4: early two thousand and eight ish around that time, you know,
Speaker 4: and so for those that were unfamiliar with it got
Speaker 4: to experience it in a beautiful way and have it
Speaker 4: be both humorous and heartwarming, Like what a gift that
Speaker 4: she has to do that, And she's done that through
Speaker 4: her other shows, and it's just so relatable, and we
Speaker 4: also get to understand more about her and what's important
Speaker 4: to her, which is awesome.
Speaker 3: I want to thank you for covering her because you know,
Speaker 3: I saw that and I thought, wow, she does keep
Speaker 3: a lower profile, and there's a reason she protects her
Speaker 3: children from what did she call it, she oversharing. She
Speaker 3: doesn't believe in oversharing, So therefore she's very mindful of
Speaker 3: her family. And it's a really good point because so
Speaker 3: often what we do on social media, you know, we
Speaker 3: take pictures. I was having a conversation with Linda about
Speaker 3: this and I said, you know, I'm watching your niece
Speaker 3: to take all these pictures of her beautiful child, and
Speaker 3: I said, there's so many of them. I'm like a
Speaker 3: little worried. And of course Linda says, don't have that thought,
Speaker 3: and she's right, I don't want to have that thought.
Speaker 3: But I guess I'm watching too many Law and Orders
Speaker 3: or SBU shows or something like that. But you know,
Speaker 3: all these people individually have an impact, but when you
Speaker 3: put them together in your words, it's beyond the spotlight.
Speaker 3: It's defining legacy in our pop culture. I want to
Speaker 3: talk about my second choice, viola, Davis, and it's interesting
Speaker 3: I found viola. Okay, true story, I played the I
Speaker 3: played the viola when I was a kid because I
Speaker 3: couldn't read. I couldn't write neurodiverse. I've talked about it
Speaker 3: on another show. I have a couple of little quirky things,
Speaker 3: but I could play music and I could read music.
Speaker 3: Couldn't read to write English Hello, But when it came
Speaker 3: to music, I could do it. And my first choice
Speaker 3: was to play the cello, but my fans are too small.
Speaker 3: So doctor Dorito said, play the viola, you'll love it.
Speaker 3: And so I was researching lessons again as I got older,
Speaker 3: now just recently, not too long ago, I thought maybe
Speaker 3: I should pick it up again, because I stopped playing
Speaker 3: and I put violin and viola and Viola Davis came up.
Speaker 3: And this is way back years ago, and I just
Speaker 3: started to watch her. And now I look back and
Speaker 3: I have seen every movie she's been in. I've seen
Speaker 3: pretty much her speeches, her acceptances. So let's talk about
Speaker 3: this for a minute. Viola Davis. Everyone is my second choice.
Speaker 3: And there are reasons that our life path mimics similar,
Speaker 3: you know, not every part of it, but there are
Speaker 3: things that I related to that I didn't know about her.
Speaker 3: You know, true legacy requires and uncompromising confrontation with truth.
Speaker 3: It really does. You know, Biola Davis's legacy is card
Speaker 3: from radical vulnerability, her refusal to hide her past, hello
Speaker 3: her dark skin, or the systematic barriers that placed in
Speaker 3: her way, And there were many, as there were with
Speaker 3: the women we've already talked about, but building our own
Speaker 3: production engine and then fearlessly champion childhood survival. You know,
Speaker 3: what she did was move across this entertainment industry, not
Speaker 3: just as mere excellent performances, rewriting the scripts and the
Speaker 3: roles that women play, but to profound social engineering. You know,
Speaker 3: she doesn't just act, She commands space so that others
Speaker 3: may finally inhabit it. This is her. She fights for
Speaker 3: pay quality for women of color in Hollywood and a
Speaker 3: production company JUV Productions uplift diverse amazing storytelling. But there's
Speaker 3: more than that. Her book that came out. You know,
Speaker 3: she transforms her role her Hollywood. She transformed this historic
Speaker 3: legacy by her personal experiences with extreme poverty. Who knew?
Speaker 3: You know this period? It's a blueprint for structural activism.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the thing that will either knock
Speaker 3: you out or like what's her face talked about? What
Speaker 3: don't kill you make you stronger? Right? But this is
Speaker 3: something we look at with her in so many ways.
Speaker 3: She represents the underrepresentative voices in Hollywood and especially now
Speaker 3: with her vocal on women of a certain age and
Speaker 3: this she has broken down the what I call the
Speaker 3: brass ceiling. See there's a glass ceiling, but the brass
Speaker 3: ceiling when it comes to being an older actress. Hello,
Speaker 3: she's breaking it down. She has iconic status, but who
Speaker 3: is she? Who is this woman? Besides being a cultural
Speaker 3: titan in the world. This is somebody who is vastly
Speaker 3: underestimated in my opinion, it really is. Yeah, but you
Speaker 3: got to ask me how many times I watched The
Speaker 3: Woman King. You got to ask me that.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't even need to have it beyond schedule TV.
Speaker 3: I got my own copy of it. I get up
Speaker 3: there and I try to do some of those dances
Speaker 3: and just be part of that and just love love
Speaker 3: for upside down in that because that was a very
Speaker 3: pivotal role in most cases, a pivotal role, Tristan, I'd
Speaker 3: like to hear your point on this. But a tribute
Speaker 3: a role that they could have put a younger woman in, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they didn't. This is somebody and I'm telling you you
Speaker 3: have got to have had some skin and hootspa. But
Speaker 3: to transform Hollywood from this exclusive club into an open
Speaker 3: door for generations of marginalized artists to come through is epic.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: She's incredible? She's the person. Anytime if there's like clips
Speaker 4: online of a speech of an award, like, I'm always positive,
Speaker 4: I'm always like watching it, rewatching it because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is gonna be good. I get all settled in,
Speaker 4: you know, because I'm just in awe of her messaging
Speaker 4: and her ability to I mean, everything that she does
Speaker 4: on screen she does there and not everyone can do that.
Speaker 4: A lot of times actors and actresses get really intimidated
Speaker 4: on that stage, and you really to speak to her hutzpah.
Speaker 4: You really have to have it in that moment when
Speaker 4: you're sitting in front of your peers, the people that
Speaker 4: say whether or not you get your next paycheck. At times,
Speaker 4: you know and go like, no, this is me, this
Speaker 4: is what I believe in. This is more important to
Speaker 4: me than whatever repercussion could happen. Incredible, Like that's just awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, before okay, before okay, The thing I
Speaker 3: want to talk about is before you know, I saw
Speaker 3: her latest film of The Warrior King with the school
Speaker 3: credible of the Dahomie. Before I saw that, people would
Speaker 3: ask me because I talk about her from time to time,
Speaker 3: and I would always get asked, what you know, what
Speaker 3: is it? What role did you see her in that
Speaker 3: changed the way you thought about her? So arey thinks
Speaker 3: you're going to say, okay, maybe fences or maybe the help.
Speaker 3: I said, no, I said, do you know I could
Speaker 3: not miss an episode about How to Get Away with Murder,
Speaker 3: And I said, when that thing ended, I thought to myself, why,
Speaker 3: I mean, it was so fascinating. First of all, that
Speaker 3: series had an incredible cast. You know, she was besides
Speaker 3: some very cool young actors, right, but her to step
Speaker 3: into that? So how does she become who she is?
Speaker 3: Severe object poverty, experiencing hunger, unstable housing. Right, she did
Speaker 3: graduate from Juilliard, Rhode Island College, grew this is her,
Speaker 3: But what is she doing today? There isn't enough time
Speaker 3: probably today to talk about all the things she's doing.
Speaker 3: But she was the first black actress to receive the
Speaker 3: triple crown of acting, the Oscar, the Enemy and the timing.
Speaker 3: And I think that's incredible. But why do we talk
Speaker 3: about her?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: We're talking about somebody that has stepped out and talked
Speaker 3: about radical honoresty of poverty, surviving trauma and abuse, confronting
Speaker 3: Hollywood colorism, and then healing the inner child. That's got
Speaker 3: to be like when you look at those four things,
Speaker 3: can you imagine what the inside of her feels like
Speaker 3: some days.
Speaker 5: Or what it did?
Speaker 4: Hopefully, hopefully there's a lot of peace there now, right,
Speaker 4: which I think we see in how she's able to
Speaker 4: truly command the stage. But everything you listed, I was
Speaker 4: just like, wow, it's so easy for us to fall
Speaker 4: into the trap of going like, oh when and we've
Speaker 4: talked about this in another show. But when my wounding
Speaker 4: is triggered, it's easy to go like, let me be quiet,
Speaker 4: and she goes, no, let me be louder. It's more
Speaker 4: important than I speak of. And that is just exceptional,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: I hope our audience looks at these women, of course
Speaker 3: we're talking about, but what I would love our audience
Speaker 3: to really do is take a look within themselves and
Speaker 3: ask themselves who are the people in our pop culture?
Speaker 3: Because I want to stay in that arena. I always
Speaker 3: take a lot of grief for this, but I want
Speaker 3: to say that who in our pop culture can we
Speaker 3: look up to? You know, don't be afraid to look
Speaker 3: everywhere for that role model that's going to show you
Speaker 3: a way. You're going to find an inspiration for yourself
Speaker 3: to get past the many nights you are beat by
Speaker 3: your father or mother, or abused in school or religious
Speaker 3: institutions or work. My research on work and I can't
Speaker 3: remember with Kerrie Washington or who is an advocate for
Speaker 3: workplace violence. But beyond all of this, these are the
Speaker 3: questions we want to ask our audience. What would you
Speaker 3: like to ask our audience.
Speaker 4: I love that so much. Really, what as they research,
Speaker 4: as they look, what causes do they feel called to
Speaker 4: step to kind of step up for? You know, maybe
Speaker 4: it's some mentioned mentioned today, it could be their own path,
Speaker 4: but really like where they feel they want to show
Speaker 4: up for more of their community in the world. And
Speaker 4: to say, you know, I think it's always easy to
Speaker 4: be like, oh, I don't have time. Well, these incredible
Speaker 4: women are doing twenty hour days when they're in a project,
Speaker 4: you know, like, let's be real about it, like and yes,
Speaker 4: they have a team in different elements, and I don't
Speaker 4: want to I don't want to take away their level
Speaker 4: of privilege that they have, especially at the income level
Speaker 4: they are. And hard work is hard work and we
Speaker 4: all have time for that.
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know about you, but I'll
Speaker 3: love to really see them outside a role they're playing in,
Speaker 3: you know, whether it's a speaking engagement or it's something
Speaker 3: they write. And I mentioned Viola Davis of course, has
Speaker 3: a book that is a must read for those out there.
Speaker 3: But for you, what have you learned since prepping for
Speaker 3: the project that has changed you?
Speaker 4: Really? Choosing my piece? I think the theme that I've
Speaker 4: found throughout this and a theme that because I've had
Speaker 4: my own wounding with visibility right and working through that,
Speaker 4: even having my own show, and as I get I'm
Speaker 4: prepping actually next week to go to New York to
Speaker 4: film something for television, So that's come up, you know
Speaker 4: as I as I go through that, And what I've
Speaker 4: really learned is like they've chosen where their piece is,
Speaker 4: and most of them that's with keeping their family sacred,
Speaker 4: you know, standing up for different causes. And so for me,
Speaker 4: I go like, you know, my home is my piece
Speaker 4: and that's something that no matter what opportunity, I don't
Speaker 4: think I would have cameras in my home at any stage.
Speaker 4: And that's a different level than other people, you know,
Speaker 4: people I admire, like my Real Housewives, and that's okay,
Speaker 4: that's that's my line. And so it's really helped me
Speaker 4: kind of firm up my boundaries and also go like,
Speaker 4: we all should have that sacredness in our life and
Speaker 4: that's okay to keep for ourselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now we do have time and there was someone
Speaker 3: else you picked, and I go into it a little bit.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, if we're talking about TV, we have to talk
Speaker 4: about Kerry Washington. Oh yeah, just true, legend like legendary, incredible.
Speaker 4: Her portrayal of women is so powerful. It handles the
Speaker 4: moral ambiguity in a beautiful way. Like I remember watching
Speaker 4: episodes of Scandal and going like, how would I deal
Speaker 4: with this situation? You know, what are my boundaries here?
Speaker 4: And that's so beautiful to explore for yourself. And it's
Speaker 4: also beautiful to have the room to explore it because oftentimes,
Speaker 4: especially in television came, women were depicted very one or
Speaker 4: two dimensional, right, Like we've moved far from the Donna
Speaker 4: Reed kind of days, but you know there's still that
Speaker 4: level of oh yeah, you can be successful, but you
Speaker 4: you know, have to have a relationship that is also
Speaker 4: as a foundation, a loving husband that supports you. And
Speaker 4: I feel like for me, Scandal was very much like,
Speaker 4: oh you can, you can show up fully at work
Speaker 4: and you can have the messiest life outside of that
Speaker 4: and it doesn't take away from your power. And it's
Speaker 4: just beautiful to explore that. What was your connection, you
Speaker 4: know to Kerrie Washington and especially Scandal.
Speaker 3: Well, I have to tell you I love the role
Speaker 3: she played as Olivia Pope in Scandal. I mean, it
Speaker 3: wasn't the only thing I had ever seen her in,
Speaker 3: but it is the role that I love to watch
Speaker 3: her play because it wasn't just the role itself. Of course,
Speaker 3: the creator of that series incredible, but what it was
Speaker 3: is her gut wrenching reality of how she played that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was a very delicate yet powerful dance in
Speaker 3: the world of politics, relationships, distrust, right advocacy. It was incredible.
Speaker 3: And you know, and I think that when I think
Speaker 3: about her, I mean her. Okay, So you know when
Speaker 3: I first saw her, Okay, this is the friend. So
Speaker 3: there's a movie that came out like way back, okay
Speaker 3: called Save the Last Dance, Right, Okay, you talk about
Speaker 3: it then, please please. Well, well that's the first time
Speaker 3: I saw and I said, oh my goodness, she is
Speaker 3: going to do great things, right yeah. Now, of course
Speaker 3: the movie didn't get great reviews, but I saw it
Speaker 3: a bunch of times. What was it for you? What
Speaker 3: was your first time watching her?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: I was a dancer, or I still I am a dancer,
Speaker 4: but I when it came out and so that was
Speaker 4: the movie that we'd play at sleepovers and everything. We
Speaker 4: all loved it. And what I love is she recently
Speaker 4: talked about it because it's been coming up in the zeitgeist.
Speaker 4: Julia Styles was recently on SNL and what I loved
Speaker 4: she was basically there was a questioning that implied like,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of dissing it a little bit and
Speaker 4: going like, oh yeah, it's not really held up well,
Speaker 4: and she's like, no, like what it did it It's
Speaker 4: time is really important, and she basically stood behind it.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I respect that so much because,
Speaker 4: like absolutely fair. I think for those of us that
Speaker 4: wasn't in our lived reality. It gave a vehicle to
Speaker 4: see that lived reality in a way I may not
Speaker 4: have for many for many years.
Speaker 3: So what did you think about her role when she
Speaker 3: started as in Anita Hill. I think that movie was
Speaker 3: called Confirmation or something I.
Speaker 4: Have not seen. It was incredible. Oh okay writing it down.
Speaker 3: Of course, wasn't anybody who's going to do anything about
Speaker 3: the India Hill situation. But she came out and thank
Speaker 3: you for pointing out about her dance stuff, you know,
Speaker 3: and the work she does. But I always sit in Nass.
Speaker 3: Now about Carrie Washington, always ask this Ques, Okay, do
Speaker 3: you know the always ask the question when is she
Speaker 3: going to When are we going to see her again?
Speaker 3: When are we going to see her again? Like on
Speaker 3: a regular basis, because she's the person I think, Wow,
Speaker 3: Kerrie Washington could have played that role. Kerry Washington could
Speaker 3: have played this role Kerrie Washington. And there's a movie
Speaker 3: or a television series I think called Paradise and I
Speaker 3: thought for sure that she would be the wife that
Speaker 3: was missing because you gotta love to see her act, right.
Speaker 4: Always, Yeah, anytime she's mentioned, it's just like I'm I'm
Speaker 4: seated as much as possible. No, she's incredible, and I
Speaker 4: think honestly, she's had this lifelong commitment to activism. So
Speaker 4: I know we haven't we haven't touched on yet, but
Speaker 4: you know, there is a choice of like what projects
Speaker 4: to work on and where you're spending your time and
Speaker 4: when she is someone that you know has had that
Speaker 4: as part of her upbringing and seeing Nelson Mandela speak
Speaker 4: and seeing and that being a part of her journey
Speaker 4: of like, no, this is important to me. I'm going
Speaker 4: to show up for this and have it continue I
Speaker 4: really I really love that she's not someone It feels
Speaker 4: like when she chooses a project, she's very much all
Speaker 4: in and maybe her capacity for that has, you know,
Speaker 4: continued to shift as she is, you know, her activism
Speaker 4: and other interests come through.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, she was also born in the Bronx. When
Speaker 3: I saw Dushango unchained she was in that. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: honestly didn't even recognize her. Took me a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it shows the depth. I mean, clearly we know
Speaker 3: her as Broadway, we know her as award winning right,
Speaker 3: you know, she she was taken to see Nelson Andela
Speaker 3: speak at Yankee Stadium. I mean, there's just so many
Speaker 3: things about her. What do you think now of where
Speaker 3: she is and what would you want her to do next?
Speaker 3: If you had your magic wand.
Speaker 4: I think it would be incredible for if she wanted
Speaker 4: to go back to Broadway or to be a major
Speaker 4: backer and have her name on a show. Katie Burris,
Speaker 4: who I love, kind of put her back in behind
Speaker 4: the Whiz and that was so beautiful and I was
Speaker 4: so glad to kind of support in that by buying
Speaker 4: tickets and things like that. And I think it's just
Speaker 4: as as Broadway is ready for some some updates and changes,
Speaker 4: and it's had its struggles. I think that would be
Speaker 4: a beautiful way to kind of maybe help you a
Speaker 4: part of the change that's going through right now. How
Speaker 4: about you? What do you see her?
Speaker 3: Well? I think she's gonna do like or has already done,
Speaker 3: the you know that Knives Out series, the one that
Speaker 3: Daniel Craig is in, Like that one. I think Tyler
Speaker 3: Perry is setting her up for some more drama. I
Speaker 3: think Shadow Force or Shadow something is something they're planning.
Speaker 3: But that just shows her diversity. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 3: look at Daniel Craig. I mean Double O seven is
Speaker 3: now the Knives Out guy. They're good for you, dude, right,
Speaker 3: But this is like we wait for things like this.
Speaker 3: I'm really excited about, you know, the Shadow Force idea.
Speaker 3: But she can do anything she wants. She can she
Speaker 3: can do anything. And you know, besides doing that, she
Speaker 3: has supported women's cancer programs. She's an activist. The list
Speaker 3: of activism. She is also support of LGBT rights. I mean,
Speaker 3: this goes on and on. She was honorary Glad Vanguard Award.
Speaker 3: You see, these are things we don't talk about, right
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. You got to ask yourself, when in
Speaker 3: the world does she have a time for that?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Right, twenty sixteen, she's out there. She's out there
Speaker 3: with Chondraland and you know, Voola Davis and Chonda Rhymes
Speaker 3: and Hillary Clinton. Right, she's out there endorsing Clinton for president.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's very clear about who she is and
Speaker 3: what she's doing. And that's what excites me because you
Speaker 3: get those things right. She also did a tribute for
Speaker 3: the of the Orlando nightclub shooting. So you see this,
Speaker 3: you see this is her. She's looking at something that
Speaker 3: could be quite controversial for her career, and what does
Speaker 3: she do. She steps all over that controversy and says, hello, people,
Speaker 3: this is who I am. Isn't that why we look
Speaker 3: at these people today? To honor these women?
Speaker 4: Yeah, to honor them how they use their voice, you know,
Speaker 4: and their impact. And I think there's already a high
Speaker 4: standard for women to do things like this, and these
Speaker 4: exceptional talents we talked about today are just really show
Speaker 4: kind of a masterclass in embodying this.
Speaker 3: Well. I will tell you there is one film I
Speaker 3: think coming out. I don't know where it stands in production,
Speaker 3: but I think it's going to be like a thriller
Speaker 3: killer film, and I think it's called an Innocent Girl
Speaker 3: or something like that, and I think that it's like
Speaker 3: a sight thriller. I love those site thrillers because I
Speaker 3: look at it from an analysis point of view. But boy,
Speaker 3: you got to have thick skin. Some of these you
Speaker 3: just really to be like, oh, okay, and I do
Speaker 3: believe that's going to be a Netflix film. But again,
Speaker 3: think about that role, okay, think about the role. Think
Speaker 3: about what it takes to take on a role. Think
Speaker 3: about all these women, and I'd like for you to
Speaker 3: have last word. Let's bring it home. What would you
Speaker 3: like to leave us with here today? And thank you
Speaker 3: so much for doing this with me. Very cool.
Speaker 4: I have the best time to really think about kind
Speaker 4: of what you stand for overall, and if that's something
Speaker 4: you're working through, you know, think about the role bottles
Speaker 4: that you see in media and maybe you know, try
Speaker 4: on what they stand for to see if it feels
Speaker 4: true and resonant for you. We don't have it doesn't.
Speaker 4: It's not a big mystery, right, there's no wrong answer,
Speaker 4: and there could be something that you pick up and support,
Speaker 4: you know, for a few months, a few years, and
Speaker 4: that can evolve as we've seen these beautiful artists careers
Speaker 4: involved as well as their impact and you know what,
Speaker 4: they show that they care about.
Speaker 3: All of the people we've talked about today. We invite
Speaker 3: you to learn more. We invite you to find more.
Speaker 3: You can look at the roles they play. You can
Speaker 3: also look at the role you know that we just
Speaker 3: talked about again, Carrie Washington is bringing together about politics
Speaker 3: and just crazy stuff, which is good at But the
Speaker 3: question I want to leave you all with, who can
Speaker 3: you find that's inspiring your next level of who Who
Speaker 3: could you go to that be alcoholism, that stepped out,
Speaker 3: spoke out against abuse, that maybe is taking on things
Speaker 3: that are not normal to take on, that are breaking barriers,
Speaker 3: that are creating new opportunities, that are opening up. A vocal,
Speaker 3: just a vocal, just giant big horn to say, step out,
Speaker 3: step in, We support you, Tristin. Before we go, how
Speaker 3: do people find out more about you?
Speaker 4: Yep, that's at Musingsanmodalities dot com. And my name is
Speaker 4: Tristan Stowiki and I think I'm the only one on
Speaker 4: the planet, so very easy to google.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you she is the only one on
Speaker 3: the planet. She's probably the only one in the outer
Speaker 3: universe too, probably just like me, we're both from another planet.
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