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Speaker 1: Hello, Lais and gentleman, Welcome back to and Or Season

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two reviews, Episodes seven to nine. I'm the one you

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can trust tonight. Trust now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: That sounds so central. I'm She's a rebel spy.

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Speaker 1: That's a luth and love novel right there, and saw

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girls go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Taylor the Taylor Masker, Taylor Field the.

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Speaker 1: Tailor, Jesus Christ, the Taylor Massacre. I don't know, does

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that mean you are performing the masker or someone's massacre.

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Speaker 2: Is the part of it? Because a Taylor and the

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Taylor Massacre, Well.

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Speaker 1: I guess. But when they call the Gorman masker, that

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means they all died. So I think this means all

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the people named Taylor died.

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the massacre, damn, that's that's what Taylor calls what

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massa comes to remember, it's down all his posters. The

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Taylor Masker happens. Yeah, happens every week if he gets

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too loud. But ladies and gentlemen, yes, we are here

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to talk about sat very sadly the penultimate episode of

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and Or because next week the last three episodes and

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uh oh, and then we're back demand and Grogu and

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fucking Boba fen the Yeah, some people you do this like,

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I'm not spoiling my thoughts, but just like man, like

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what we're gonna go back to in a couple of months,

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or like the man wearing Grogu movie. That's a topic

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for another.

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Speaker 2: T Is there Boba coming back? Like what's this?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he is. I'm sure Daves like, oh, I

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just love him and you know he's so fun and

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he he just adds something special Star Wars. Yeah, okay, whatever,

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but here we are gonna talk about and or uh yeah,

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episode seven to nine, non spoiler Taylor, your non spoiled thoughts,

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and obviously we'll give our thoughts and then we'll give

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you a little warning and then we'll get into spoilers us.

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So for some reason, if you are delaying and can't

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watch all episodes, we're just giving you our high level thoughts, Taylor,

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give it to us. Yeah, the one who I can

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trust tonight.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, holy smokes, this was this was firing on

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all cylinders. I have to first come full full terms

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here and apologize because I had thought I had a come.

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Speaker 1: Full so I can't do that anymore.

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Speaker 3: I thought that there was something that happened that was

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just kind of skipped over in the last arc. But

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my timelines definitely got mixed up because you know, you

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got one massacre, you got another massacre. They got massakers

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left right and centerta target.

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Speaker 1: That happened tonight they skipped over.

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Speaker 3: Right, yes, but that was the Tarkan massacre. So I

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meane just everyone's massacres.

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Speaker 1: Really in comparison, I feel like it's quite small to

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compare to this what they told last week of like,

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oh yeah, there's dozens of people talking land on to like,

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you know, genocide is a you know, you gotta I

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guess I'll look at the definition of what a massacre is.

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I feel like one is not the other, but continue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it's just this arc it did such a great

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job at just fueling the the the room, which is.

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Speaker 2: Escalation, and it just felt uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: I mean as if you were you know what's going

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to be going down and what's coming.

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Speaker 2: But it's just.

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Speaker 3: These three arcs were just like, wow, there are just escalation.

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Speaker 2: What what do you got?

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Speaker 1: Why out of all people did you put bail on

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the thumbnail? Out of all people? I just feel like

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there's so many feo that had highlights and something bail

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are Gona has a highlights you know, yeah, minor sports,

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his big speeches. I hand it off like that.

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Speaker 2: Without without him, we would have got bail or gone on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy Smiths, I understand. I want to give him

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to get on the spotlight.

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Speaker 3: Give him a spotlight. Yea. But yeah, there there is

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just a lot of a lot of build up in

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this third arc, and I'm very happy with where we

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kind of conclude and where we end on this arc.

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It was just I feel like we covered a lot

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of ground and things like I said, it's my word

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then escalated a Galatian and I could really tell in

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the third episode here of this.

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Speaker 2: Arc they were really.

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Speaker 3: I think they were trying to do something that kind

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of paralleled or maybe rival I'm not sure what the

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right word would be to the speech that they gave

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on Faryx. What was her name, adoptive mom? Yeah, yes,

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was that the third episode was definitely rival rivalry whatever, rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Just fuck me, it's on par just.

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Speaker 3: Say it on parts on Park.

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Speaker 2: You uh so? Uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just think that we we were really treated well

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with these three episodes, and I'm excited to see what

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the next three are going to entail with this. But yeah,

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there was there was some really juicy stuff going on,

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and I liked how some of the stuff was just

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when you just watch this arc, I felt like, Okay,

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they're really stoking certain things with Cassian's character that at

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least I feel are a little bit more evident in

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Rogue one. And as to like why he does some

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things and chooses to do certain things.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just he gets a Delta shitty hand. But

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all in all, there's one thing too I want to

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down because it's just it's it was an interesting little

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concept of a character that they threw in there, and

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they didn't have to put this person in there too.

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I don't know, maybe add more to Cassian's story, maybe

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just to make it sound like, oh, it has more

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to do with his fate in Rogue one. I don't know,

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but I just thought it was cool, not necessarily this

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person's kind of revelations, but more so just the their

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like job and what there rebellion kind of has these

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people doing without spoiling too much.

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Speaker 2: So I'll leave it there.

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Speaker 1: Before Kirklam goes, I'll say I was wrong about massacre.

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A masaker is an event of killing people who are

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not engaged in hostilities or are defenseless. Is generally used

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describe targeted of killing civilians in mass by armed group

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or person. Uh So, the word is the word is

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a loan of a French word term for butchery slash carnage.

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So it doesn't really matter the amount of people just

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has to be a group. And what do you think,

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what do you think a group is? How many? How

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many people doesn't need to be in.

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Speaker 2: A group four?

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Speaker 1: Three, three or four a group of three or more. So, literally,

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someone could masacer us. We're a group of we could

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be the geek for his massacre.

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Speaker 2: You know, I hope I'm not a part of a

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headline that is.

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Speaker 1: Villian's gonna come in and we're gonna be like it's over,

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I'm gonna kill us, and then all that twenty five

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percent comes on and then every you know, Kyle's back,

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Jessica back, you know, fucking Connor's gonna be hosting this.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, so yeah, my turn to go, goddamn,

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is this show ever peak Star Wars content? Man? I like,

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where's this gonna lie in comparison to like my top

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tier echelon of Star Wars. I feel like Empire will

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always be my favorite Star Wars just project, like like

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cinema wise, just moving picture wise, just a lot of

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nostalgia for the film, and I just feel like it

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really tipped off my love of Star Wars, like specifically,

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like it probably was Episode four in hindsight, but I

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feel like episode five was really just like, yeah, this

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is this is my Star Wars here, and like I

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know it'll probably always be my number one, but goddamn,

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is this show like making me think that it could

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it could honestly be up there or like tied for

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just best Star Wars content. And it's insane because, like

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you know, spoiler free, there's not really any Jedis or

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anything like in this project. So it's just crazy that

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a show that doesn't have the classic you know, force

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wielding lightsaber samurai people like that. The normal big projects

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would have that like probably got me just interested in

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the like in Star Wars in general way back as

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a kid. But this is just I think, like the

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storytelling and the character stuff is just it's so on

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another level and it's definitely not a show I would

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have appreciated, like being a younger, like like when I

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first jumped into Star Wars, like I probably wouldn't have

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even gripped onto this like I do now because it

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is just so much more mature. But it just feels, Yeah,

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it just feels like perfect storytelling and to put it

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in a Star Wars world on like I always thought,

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like I don't know, the Rebel stuff is is awesome,

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but it was never just like my my, what I

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like of the most out of Star Wars in general,

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And like this show is just making me think otherwise

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and really feeling like man Cassian and Or is like

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actually one of the greatest like persons in the whole rebellion,

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that like should be up right up there with the

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likes of you know, Lea.

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Speaker 1: It'sn Solo. It'sn Solo who showed up for like a

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day and a half of work and he gets the

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fucking know mon Mathma's up there, No Luthan know whoever

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the guys that got who's just like, you can keep

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coming back here, you gonna decide if you're with us.

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Speaker 3: They had a metal for Cassian, but he died, so

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they scratched out the name and here you go, Hans Solo.

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Speaker 1: You get the just reused that's on the gage at

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that he didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, but like it's it's seriously up there. I

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I feel like I'm just I'm so amazed, I'm so

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upset that it's like coming to an end here. I

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think I have mixed feelings with these like triple like

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these burst fire of episode releases. I love consuming them

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because it's just more content. Like in a row, I

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can basically get three hours of some of the best

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Tuesday in these last couple of weeks, which is just amazing.

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these could literally be full seasons. Like like I like,

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like you have some sleeper episodes where they're not quite

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but like they really could have just done so much

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more covering of bases. But that being said, this is

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still just so well done. And I'm just loving these

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year jumps and just kind of seeing different glimpses on

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where we are in the progression, you know, to the

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big Battle of Yavin. So yeah, I don't know. I

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don't want to keep talking because I just want to

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get into spoil. But god, damn man, like everyone who

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says Star Wars is like done and like, oh Disney

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is just like ruining Star Wars, like if they don't watch,

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and or like shut the fuck up and go watch,

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and or like this this is peak Star Wars content here,

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and uh yeah, it's so so well made. I'm very

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very impressed by the writers. The creators I never noticed,

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but like, is the creator and the writer are they brothers?

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Speaker 1: I think so I would imagine show let me get

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dan in.

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Speaker 2: Or like husbands or something. I don't know. I just

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didn't notice their names at all until the credits were rolling.

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Shouts out to everyone that was a part of this

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because it just it just feels like it's in a

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different realm of place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, that makes so much sense too. I like,

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I think I've kind of forgot about this, but I

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forgot like this guy. He directed Dan Gilroy. He directed Nightcrawler,

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which is one of my favorite movies. Like, yeah, that's

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a fucking outstanding movie. Wasn't as great buzz Saw, but

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but just what we talk about that's like. And that's

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because as someone that does not like Kong Skull Island

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to be like, that's gonna be the guy that writes,

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never never guessed it, you know. So that's why people

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can be Swiss Army Knights when they want to, you know.

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specific action sequence in here, and honestly, it felt like

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to the quality of like a recent HBO show, like

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like a battle sequence, like it didn't look cheap at all,

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and that's been something that I feel like, I don't know,

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just because I love Star Wars, like I kind of

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look past a lot of that stuff in certain certain sequences.

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to that HBO quality of just all the moving pieces.

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time I really felt the fear of like blasters and

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like the intensity of what they could be, like just

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in like a firefight.

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like this type of Star Wars content going forward. Yeah

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hashtag sa V and or I know we're at the

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end of the story so we can't really keep going

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on with this forever. But just this type of content

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creation for Star Wars world is just it's it's so good.

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And I'm in a scary situation, right because no one's

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perfect and there's been tons of issues, Like the podcast

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is turning ten years old, and that's when we got

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Force Wakens, right and there's a scary thing that we've

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had such a bumpy row and so many issues, and

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we've talked about this person as a big problem before

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as far as like, uh, need to go change of leadership.

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whether it's fucking Folon or whoever takes over and we

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get nothing like this ever again, and we oh, you

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know what, maybe we were too harsh on Kathleen Kennedy

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the thanos, like, perhaps I judge you too harshly because

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and maybe wrong. I hope that the next versa takes

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over at least if not all of Star Wars is this.

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it meets that where again I hate to be that

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guy I think of Flony gets like if he gets present,

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just gonna see a saw as Venture shows and Ahsoka shows.

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is he doesn't think this is Star Wars. And for me,

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this is where I can get that. Even in this episode,

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a character says a minor sports is the word shit right,

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what I think fits as Star Wars and what doesn't

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fit as Star Wars. And this episode we'm gonna go

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about probably three things that you know, at various times

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I've said I'm wrong on, but that I'm very much

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wrong on. I think now after something like this, and

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there's other things, I think this show, the show that

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Star Wars has to evolve because a couple of weeks ago,

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all Star Wars could not be this because it's families

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and franchises and you know, of course I don't think

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it should all be this, but if you're to tell

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me it's kind of like an all or nothing situation,

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Star Wars to evolve. And maybe we're gonna lose some

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people along the way, some families, some kids, but if

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it can be this quality, maybe it's worth it. Now. Again,

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I guarantee you next year they're gonna put out from

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some fucking slot with them saving job with the Hot Sun.

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It's gonna make a billion dollars. Then we're fucked. Then

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we're just fucked because like no one watches and Or,

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but everyone watched Uh what's the Jaba's son's name, Taylor? Yeah,

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everyone loved wrote to the hot team of girl gu

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So fuck yeah. Right, So that's why I'm just gonna

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be happy, Like what, it's really good?

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Speaker 1: I hopefully and I hope that's the case, right, because

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there's something where for me. I wasn't on the reviews,

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but I very much like Skeleton. I don't think it's

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a ten ten, but it's like a nine or higher.

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I think to me, that's what Star Wars. You're looking at.

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The family scope should probably look at as far as, hey,

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we're bringing new things from Star Wars, but old things

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and a good max. But at the same time, I

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look at when we talk about the best of the best,

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like and everyone still talks about right, everyone has their opinions.

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Dark Knight, right, And that's very much like and Or

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where it took it. Yeah, begins, but that took it

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way seriously and elevated and took it to a new level.

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And you still had many times. But again I guess

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it wasn't knowing, right, I'm just hoping that this is

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the dark Knight where the Star Wars leadership looks at

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this even it's someone of like Filonia. He goes, maybe

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I don't respond to this type of Star Wars, but

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there has to be a variety out there, and there's

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things in here. I go usually, yeah, I wouldn't like

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that in my Star Wars, but this show makes it work.

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And this thing I'm not like walked back. But I

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think I've said many times the podcasts that prequels aren't

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for me. And there's definitely some good ones, right, Like

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we've talked about the apes before, like those are good movies.

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There's other ones we've talked about sporadically over the years.

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But I still like, probably could make a less Maybe

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it's longer now because we have so much content, but

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as far as a great, outstanding prequels, I could be

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confident saying maybe there's just ten and the rest are

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all like good to fine. And you know, I know, Taylor,

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I saw you the other day, you wearing the shirt,

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but uh, to drop my gimmick. The example of Solo

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being like, oh, here, use this gun? Are you alone?

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Solo to this where it's like I know everything that's

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gonna happen with Gorman. I know everything that's gonna happen

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with Mam Mathma. These scenes where and Or's being chased

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by stormtroopers or droids, I know, in a whatever, a

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year from now whatever, he's gonna be sitting on a

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beach with Gin and they're gonna die in the sun. Right,

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But it doesn't matter, because this show is so fucking

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good that you forget that all and you get locked in.

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It's the point're like, man, and it's not gonna make it. Man,

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Mom's not gonna make it. Like all this stuff. They

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take things that are just literal Star Wars lore of

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like oh yeah, mom, Mafma turned and she became a

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rebel spy or whatever it is, right, they make that

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the most gripping Star Wars you've ever seen in your lifetime,

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which shouldn't happen because we know the second Ander was announced,

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we know that story, but it is all the journey

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and this is like the best example. This is some

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not even just Star Wars, just some of the best

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TV I've seen period. The all three episodes are great,

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but episode uh, what would be eight in a good way?

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Some of the most horrific stuff I've seen, and there's

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not even tons of blood. There's not gore. It's just

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the vibe, the attention, the score, the actors, the claus

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or phobia of it all. They just hit like a

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Grand Slam is like under selling it. So I'm gonna

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take the time and just enjoy this. And sure, I hope, yeah,

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I enjoy Manilar and Grogu, but it's not gonna be this.

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Like I like, I really hope that we can get

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something like this again in the future, and if not,

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I'm just gonna be like, well, I'm very thankful we

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got this, because I do worry the route we could

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go because even like I like Sean Levy as a director,

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but like, I'm not expecting, uh, you know, the guy

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that made Real Steal and the Nice or what is

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that fall guy to make this, you know. And again

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I'm not saying that's the same as the MCU, same

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as DZ. Not everything should be that. But I just

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hope there is still a place for this type of

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Star Wars because I'm the same as Kirkland where Empire

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will always be up there. But it's very tough for

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me not to defend and it's not. I guess it

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won't be tough.

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's like a college sweetheart versus the new love,

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you know, where that's a person that maybe you fell

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for and you know, maybe you lost your virginity too.

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Maybe this first person you city loved all this stuff.

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There's all these firsts, right, but then you meet someone

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where you're like, oh, this person might be more match

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for me and doesn't take anything. Maybe it's just kind

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of a situation where I'll just say it's a one

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A one B situation for different reasons. You know, it's

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the same way like like the Batman versus their Dark Knight,

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Like I have that as a one A one B

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because I like them for different reasons. I think Dark

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Knight's a better movie, but I think The Batman is

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a better Batman movie, as dumb as that sounds. So,

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but this is, yeah, I've never questioned Empire Strikes Back

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because like, no, that's always been a umber one. I'm

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not saying I'm putting it down right now, but this

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episode really like gave run for my because even episode eight,

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I feel like you could just watch it as a

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short film, you know, change a few things or a

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little context of just like, look at what happens to

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a planet. And that's the thing too. It's like we'll

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get in the spoilers, but I think this is a

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very good episode for I get it. Some people don't

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want their content to be political. Then I guess don't

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watch these three episodes for sure, because this is very

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much about like, hey, look what's right in front of

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you and kind of wake the fuck up. Especially in

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some countries in the world, it's just like all the

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signs are there and then you don't see them until

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it's kind of too late and the real bad shit

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starts happen, or it's not bad until it affects you,

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and then when it impacts you're like, how could you

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not tell me it's well, you should have had your

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eyes open. I think this show just does so much

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as far as it's great Star Wars escapism, but it

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is timely and political and meaningful and yeah, this is

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this is like I would not have said that, and

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or it might be my top ten shows. It might

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be now you know, it's just kind of crazy, and

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this is where this has helped me. I already had

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this with season one, but I remember when they announced,

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and or it's like what are we doing here? You know?

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And I may love Rogue one, I understood, like okay,

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billion all the people people really liked it, but it's like,

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and I love Daga Luon, I've loved him ever since

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I saw milk, but it's like, what are we doing here?

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Like and or like all the money, all the things

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you could do. And that's where it's like you can't

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judge a book by its cover. And that's why whoever

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takes over, I hope that's the case. And that's where

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whatever people that want to praise it's not the weird

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like alt right, like red wing I thumb, not those people,

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but the people that have genuine problems with Kathleen Kenny

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as far as leader, which we have too. Right, there's

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so many annalysis, all this stuff, you gotta still think

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about the good stuff. And this is something she greenlit,

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especially because like someone like Tony Gilroy, whatever you want

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to say about Rogue one, she made that move to

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get him in there, and that led to this. So

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that's where it's like, you can't talk about tons of stuff,

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which I'm sure we will if she ever win or

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if she ever steps down it's like there's still a

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direct line from her to this show, you know. And

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that's where it's like, it's it's a tough bag because

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I think it's a it's a good way to go out,

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almost on a high note. If she is like leaving

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the rumors in August, because it's like, man, that's uh,

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we got something special. There's tons of other people, including too,

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but I just want to tell it. People when they go, yeah,

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I gotta get her out of there, it's like, yeah,

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of course I understand. But again, what if we're in

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a situation in six years from now where we don't

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get anything close to this and we're like, fuck, man,

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maybe we should have just ate the Boba fet sandwich myself, right,

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Maybe I shouldn't have complained about Boba Fet or like

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the canceled movies and just like, well I got and

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or so I'll take that like to me, like it's

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it sounds bad, but like one end or could be

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worth like six Star Wars movies if they're all kind

471
00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,759
of man like, if they're all like Rise of Skywalker,

472
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,079
sorry Taylor Solo level, where it's like these are all fine,

473
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,519
but they're just like Cameo fodder or like, look at this,

474
00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:49,759
it's Cat Baine, look at this, it's starf mall like,

475
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,160
and that's just what I wore. I said, wealth the

476
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,319
way till we get a present. I just I was

477
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,519
enjoying the show, but so fearful at the same time

478
00:22:57,559 --> 00:22:59,720
of like, oh man, this might be it. This is

479
00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:02,200
this be the stopping point? So I hope it's not,

480
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,200
and if not, we enjoyed because we got one more week.

481
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,200
But this was just damn good television. It's up there

482
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,200
for me of breaking Brad Breaking, Brad breaking bad, Sopranos

483
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,720
six feet Under, you know, early seasons of Deckster, like

484
00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:19,960
the Cream of the Crop, band of Brothers, Like it's

485
00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:23,200
up like you're mede that comparison. It's fucking HBO quality.

486
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,480
It really is. I've seen people and I probably said

487
00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:27,400
it's like, oh, it's the best thing Disney plus is done.

488
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,440
Fuck it, like talk about best thing Disney has done,

489
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,359
like in general, like all their whole entire history catalog

490
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,359
of back toorway animation to now. I think I could

491
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,079
probably look at this, so maybe that's a cast do

492
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,000
a name, like what's the best ten Disney things of

493
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,200
all time? This to me, would have to be on

494
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,000
there somewhere. I know it's high or low, but like

495
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:47,599
it's it's just like, to me, an incredible feat what

496
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,759
they've done. And these three episodes were something really special.

497
00:23:50,759 --> 00:23:52,720
And yeah, we were talking some of us with Brent

498
00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:56,000
from a Marvel Alliance guess formerly Marvel Lines but always

499
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,200
still part of the family, where it's like, yeah, I'm

500
00:23:58,279 --> 00:23:59,680
very excited for the season, but I don't think they

501
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,640
can beat that prison arc from last year. And for me,

502
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,279
they fucking did it somehow, you know, like and I

503
00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:06,240
would have never thought that. And now that's like that's

504
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,240
already peaked Star Wars, and that's good. As long as

505
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,000
you can just get a little onner, that's good. And

506
00:24:10,039 --> 00:24:12,000
even if it like for me, i'd have to watch

507
00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:13,599
them back to back because I haven't seen the prison

508
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,079
one a while, maybe just met it, but still the

509
00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:18,200
fact I even think that, Yeah, so I know I rambled,

510
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,039
but I had to because this uh what uh just

511
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,480
I want to pay it forward to know this was

512
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:27,079
a very special time and night in Stars there many

513
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,119
times I'm just sitting there like and I was getting

514
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,960
teared up in episode five, which again prequel. I know

515
00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:34,559
how the are episode seven prequel. We know everything. We

516
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,559
know there's a fucking event called the Gorman Massacre. We

517
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,880
know anytime on this planet, what the history of this

518
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,960
planet is gonna be. And seeing the fall, it's like

519
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:47,599
Jesus Christ, so uh yeah, just outstanding.

520
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 2: So we're gonna be feeling like Anakin in a couple

521
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,039
of years. Kathleen steps down and we're just like, what

522
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,440
have we done? Well? Why why do we ever complain?

523
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see this will be at wordin point

524
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,319
we'll be like, oh, you know, and like I said,

525
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,039
realize that too late. We're like fucking a certain character

526
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,119
in episode or a certain character in episode. We're like,

527
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:08,200
oh my god, I've made terrible mistakes, you know. But uh,

528
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:11,799
let's get into this. We're about to take ad break.

529
00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:13,279
Make sure write that down to you because it's your

530
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:16,799
turn tonight. Uh, and then it will be right back

531
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:24,240
and we are back. So who do we want to talk?

532
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:28,880
Jesus Christ? I feel that, don't know. They just threw

533
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,880
up a picture of Ted Cyril there, so I guess

534
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,759
that's where we're going.

535
00:25:32,039 --> 00:25:33,279
Speaker 2: Who it was until you just said it?

536
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: What? I gotta tell the audios because people just for me.

537
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,400
How Jesus Christ, Like I didn't see Jesus Christ for

538
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,079
past April. Oh guess what's where? He didn't come back again?

539
00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:44,680
He probably won't next year. Uh, neither will Cereal. I guess. Yeah,

540
00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:49,039
let's start there. So we've we like we speculate a

541
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,240
little bit and like season one, but big time this season.

542
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,000
Right of, just all the dynamics, right of? Is dear

543
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,640
just playing him? Is he playing her? Does she really

544
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,519
love him? Is he gonna make a turn against her

545
00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:03,759
to rank like higher up? Is he gonna realize he's

546
00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,079
doing bad? Is she gonna realize? Are they gonna realize it? Together?

547
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:09,039
All this stuff and finally we get the answer here

548
00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:14,279
where what a fucking great build up where you know

549
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,039
this you can just the city is awake and it's stern,

550
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,519
and you can just feel something's off and I can't like,

551
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,640
who is it? I've never I don't think I know

552
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,599
this guy's name. I don't know his name. Does anyone

553
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,240
can someone look up this guy's name? I'll pull yeah,

554
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,359
because I feel like I've never actually looked up to

555
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,680
see who this actor is. This like so many people

556
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:34,640
were great and or in this episode, right, so I

557
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,880
can't say it was his episode, but holy shit, he

558
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,200
was fantastic, just like being timid at the start to

559
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,160
do you got his name there?

560
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,799
Speaker 2: Kirkland, Kyle Saller, Kyle saw a L L E.

561
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:52,079
Speaker 1: R pluck fuck get him in some A twenty four stuff,

562
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,440
Marty call him up like QT for your foul movie.

563
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,559
This guy shows so many range of emotions to being

564
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:01,200
timid at the beginning to the great scene where I

565
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,000
can't remember, I'll do it a couple of times, but

566
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:08,440
the older man in the Gorman Rebellion when he throws

567
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,279
him against that wall and he just lays it down

568
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,359
of like, look at what's fucking going on? He didn't say,

569
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,480
just look what's going on? And Siia's like, no, no,

570
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:17,559
there's just rumors this and that, and he's just like

571
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,279
you don't, like, how do you not get? And it's

572
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:24,519
at that point you can tell Seria's just almost lying

573
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,720
to himself. But to see that kind of realization of

574
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,000
oh man, all the stuff that I've been told and

575
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,160
fed for now he's been on this planet for years,

576
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:35,839
maybe is untrue and maybe I was wrong. And what

577
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240
I love is I know this is a weird connection.

578
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:39,640
I'll throw it one of you guys, but me and

579
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,960
the girls, we just watched the old one Kenobi show.

580
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,319
But it's the movie cut. I think it's called the

581
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,559
Patterson Cut. I highly recommend it because it takes out

582
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:47,880
tons of stuff. It's two point five hours. It was

583
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,559
a great watch. But I can't remember her name again.

584
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:53,920
Classic she was that girl in Game of Throne. She

585
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,160
was the viper's wife. Remembers she's the one like helps

586
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Obi Wan and Lea.

587
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,759
Speaker 2: Oh what is her name?

588
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, either like whatever. She at one point says, because

589
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,160
she's an empire, like like spy rat, right, she's working

590
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,000
with the good people. But she even says in the

591
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,680
show or the you know, the movie that I watched,

592
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,240
now she's like, I joined what I thought was the

593
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:13,559
right reasons, but I, you know, figured out it wasn't

594
00:28:13,599 --> 00:28:15,759
the case, and now I'm doing good And that show

595
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,640
that's just a throwaway, easy line of like how do

596
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,440
we explain this by Oh, well, I thought was something

597
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,480
else and here we go. And that's what I love

598
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:24,039
about Zero is we've seen him do some bad stuff.

599
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,079
We've seen him help the back guys. Even last week

600
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,359
we talked about man, he got all that info and

601
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,480
fed it to him. But even then, you, to me

602
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,200
saw obviously hence the picture. We didn't see what else

603
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,279
what happen with zero, but you saw there is lines

604
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:38,319
for people where even this person was die hard to

605
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:42,160
the Empire finally realized, oh, this is there. This is

606
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,480
actually too far, This is actually what I would not

607
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:47,119
sign up for. Like I'm for my country, you know,

608
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,759
in this case situation, planet's galaxy, but like I'm for

609
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,079
my galaxy leader. All this until your boots on the ground,

610
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,640
and really and especially he's been living there for years, right,

611
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,200
so he's still seen this community, all this stuff. And

612
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,839
that's why I love like it showed, which I kind

613
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,079
of was not bummed that he died, but a little

614
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,759
bit because to me, it showed an actual believable situation

615
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:09,000
where it's like all the time, I think we always

616
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,359
just meet the Empire spy after they've turned, and we've

617
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,640
missed that. This was seeing someone and I gues said,

618
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,799
he didn't really turn, he didn't help anybody out, He

619
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,880
just stand their shell shock. But it was seeing that

620
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,839
revelation of oh man, I have been playing. And that's

621
00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:23,799
why again I don't care. Fuck you can leave a

622
00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:26,079
negative review and listen me in it things that are

623
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,480
political where all times where oh yeah I'm for this person,

624
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,680
Oh they're terror from the business I do. Oh this

625
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:34,319
fucking sucks. How this happened, Well, I guess you vote

626
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:36,240
from Oh yeah, I guess so eh. And that's where

627
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,960
it's like the same thing here where a cereal should

628
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000
know all this stuff. But he was just kind of

629
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,599
blind in many sense. And I think his relationship with

630
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,920
Diirja got him there as well. But I thought that

631
00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:49,920
was just fantastic to see. Man, you can get a

632
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,680
character that is pretty rowden to his core but still

633
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,720
realize there's like again a line of too far. And

634
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:00,200
I thought all this stuff and he was fantastic. Sink

635
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,000
there's more I have to say, but yeah, someone take

636
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,400
it from me.

637
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: I It's interesting because I feel like a lot was

638
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:09,119
revealed about that character, specifically in that one episode which

639
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,200
led up to you know, his his his quick passing,

640
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,279
and I just I was so shocked by when it

641
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,519
just quick cuts to his just limp body like that.

642
00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:23,240
But nonetheless, yeah, I don't know if he is a

643
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,680
rotten individual, you know, like like he's very damaged, like

644
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,920
like he definitely has terrible relationship with his mother that

645
00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:32,359
like probably just gave him crippling anxiety for like his

646
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:36,319
entire life. He's been shown to like have OCD, which

647
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,799
is like a mental illness to an extent, And like

648
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,759
I just feel like he finds comfort in everything being

649
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:47,599
structured and like just just systematic. And I think that's

650
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,720
why he is so by the book and like seeks

651
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:54,000
comfort and just being that manager type role where like

652
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,200
making sure everything's because in his mind it's like you

653
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,759
get the quick shot of the fork that's like skewed away, right,

654
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:02,119
Like it just bugs him so much. So like that

655
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,559
is why he just naturally leans that way. But I

656
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,960
think in this episode it shows that like I thought

657
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,160
he was die hard for Dadra, I thought he was

658
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,240
die hard for for Sheeve, like just everything to do

659
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,440
with the with the empire, like from the first time

660
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,319
that we kind of meet him, even back in season one.

661
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,880
I feel like that's just how I felt about it,

662
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,880
but here and even and like I was always sus

663
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,920
on what his true goal was when he was talking

664
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,200
to like the Gorman whatever we call them, like defense force,

665
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,160
their their little mini rebellion, even before like Luthern's people

666
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,119
helps them out. Like I just couldn't read exactly what

667
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,640
he was doing, like if he's really trying to play

668
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,359
these people or trying to get more information or whatnot.

669
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,480
And now I actually know that, like he actually was

670
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,920
kind of like getting the point across of like hey,

671
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:51,240
like I'm actually not after you people, like I'm here

672
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,759
to bait in rebels, which is like, you know, enemy

673
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:58,039
to the structure of what the empire is, because in

674
00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:00,920
his mind, the empire is just it's the proper way

675
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,640
to be like like there is rules, there's chain of command,

676
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,119
all these things that he kind of just seeks out

677
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:11,680
in like is normal life anyways. But getting that realization

678
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:14,759
that not only is his empire that he thought was

679
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:18,279
so perfect and like just this this really good system

680
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,680
is lying to everyone and like actually conniving and like

681
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,759
working in the shadows kind of like chaotically, which is

682
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:30,039
probably everything that he kind of stands against. And then

683
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,799
like you bring in just like the crimes against humanity

684
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,759
side of it, where there's just they're just going to

685
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,119
destroy this whole planet just to get to the resources,

686
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:42,920
and they're just gonna absolutely you know definition massacre or

687
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,400
genocide these people just to get what they want and

688
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:48,720
they have no problem of just lying straight to the

689
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,319
faces of even the people in the Empire, and to

690
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,519
hear that from Dadra, Like it's just I believed his

691
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:57,440
anger in that moment, Like he is angry, he's he's

692
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,119
he's so pissed off that he basically wasted years on

693
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,079
thinking that he's going towards a certain goal for the

694
00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:08,039
betterment of the Empire. But like that's not exactly what's

695
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:11,799
happening like at all. So I was, Yeah, I was

696
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:15,640
so blown away by just the twist there. I was

697
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,920
a little bit like I don't know, I don't want

698
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,640
to say it's like a negative, but I was just

699
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,279
surprised by Dage's reaction. I think in those moments, I

700
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:28,920
just didn't expect her to be very uh caught off

701
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,680
guard by like I don't know, I just believed her

702
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:34,279
like puffing out the chest type of attitude throughout the

703
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:35,880
whole time that she's been in the show of like

704
00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:39,319
I expected her to like just I don't know, like

705
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,079
Judo throw him or something, you know, Like like I

706
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,119
just feel like she is a weapon. But like here

707
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,599
it was revealed that like she's actually very vulnerable in

708
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:47,240
those moments, like she's terrified you know, we.

709
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: Got her answer about how much she did really care

710
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,640
about him, right because she's still the end. That was crazy, Yeah,

711
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,240
and she because it felt like, you know, whoever that

712
00:33:56,279 --> 00:34:00,519
guy park Ass or whatever his name is, it felt

713
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,039
like Kim and the crew part of Gas. Yeah, he

714
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,000
sounds like he should be friends of the sprat of Gas,

715
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,599
but part of Gas, like it sound like it was

716
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,039
very much like yeah, you know, like if you could,

717
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,800
like if Cyril makes it back, like oh, that's cool,

718
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,840
but like if he dies like whatever, Like they didn't

719
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,960
care right now, it doesn't matter. It's about the mission.

720
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,320
So she's still getting the heads up like pack be

721
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,599
ready to move and get here. And at first I

722
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:23,119
was worried. Even when he got to the gates, I'm like,

723
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,559
oh fuck, they're not gonna let him in and he

724
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,079
that's how he's gonna find out. But they still let

725
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,800
him in. I'm like, okay, like everything's going smooth, and

726
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,840
he hasn't like he get they put him in their

727
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,800
little zone there, and I thought for sure what was

728
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,199
gonna happen is he was just gonna be with those

729
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,440
droids and the people, and he was just gonna hear

730
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,639
the masaker because you could see once he had that

731
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,199
scene with that the older rebellion guy, like okay, he

732
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,480
is like even though he pushed him down, disgusted, you

733
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,800
can see cereals snap and like he's starting to figure out, like,

734
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,199
oh I am not in the right here, but I thought, okay,

735
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,039
he's gonna be lock that room. He's gonna hear it,

736
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:53,920
and that's gonna be the turn where he's like, Okay,

737
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,480
I'm not gonna do this anymore. And whether it's a speech,

738
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:58,760
whether he's a brat, whatever the situation, or a spy.

739
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:01,400
But even then he sneaks out, he gets right to Dedra,

740
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,480
they're like, goheah ill just close the door, and it's

741
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:06,559
kind of fine, Like obnestly, they've shown that they have

742
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:09,639
a romantic relationship, but they've still never kissed, like on

743
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,920
screen up until now. So it's kind of funny that

744
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,320
the episode starts with that, but then it ends with

745
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,719
him like their last physical interaction his him like choking

746
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,800
her out to get answers right, And yeah, we got

747
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,039
that answer because same thing she told him, the pack

748
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,199
to him to get there. When he was leaving, she

749
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,360
sent that guard like make sure he doesn't leave. So

750
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,679
whether it was selfish or not. She did. She did

751
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,920
end up caring about him and want him. She said, Oh,

752
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,800
we're gonna be heroes. You and me are gonna be

753
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,960
set for life when we get back, like all X,

754
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:38,920
Y and Z. And again that was the other thing

755
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,760
we talked about too, that he was very not obsessed

756
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,840
with I'll say, but one to know, like how how

757
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,360
long did you know? And she, you know, tiptoed around

758
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,679
it and then she just gave it all like, oh,

759
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,079
this has been a plan for years and there's like

760
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,599
a double thing where it is. That's bad. But I

761
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,400
also think with Dedra, he didn't think she'd even go that,

762
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:57,559
Like he would think that even if there was something

763
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,519
that bad, she would let him know. So it's like

764
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,119
a he got double betrayed. He got betrayed by his

765
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,039
political party that he's with, and then he got betrayed

766
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:06,800
by I would say, this person that's the love of

767
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,440
his life, because he was fucking obsessed with her in

768
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,000
season one, right and now they've been together for four

769
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,360
years now, three and a half something. They've been together

770
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,639
for almost a quarter or half a decade. So to

771
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,599
have that person lying to you and even then put

772
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:22,559
him in potential risk, right, because there's gonna be a

773
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,599
situation where she could have distracted him out of there,

774
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,360
and she knew that, hey, this planet could be taken

775
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,360
at some point, and what if it was a situation

776
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,119
where oh yeah, I couldn't send the sos and you're

777
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:33,199
just fucked. So he just went through a lot. That's

778
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:35,440
why I threw that whole battle. He's just standing there

779
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960
the entire time, just shell shocked until he sees and or,

780
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,960
which we'll get to. But Tay, what were your thoughts

781
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:46,599
on the the formerly passed not formally, I guess freshly

782
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:47,480
passed zero.

783
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:54,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's still kind of, I don't know, shocking

784
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:55,920
that just one of our main characters has kind of

785
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,159
died at this point. I mean, it's gonna come down

786
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,519
to that because most of these characters, they're not represented.

787
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:02,159
Speaker 2: Another stuff where he wrote I didn't see him in

788
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:02,679
Rogue one.

789
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Dedre, And we know Deidri and Luthern's next.

790
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,840
You know that whole time fucking Ander had that scope on.

791
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,559
Nidra was like fucking shoot. I was like do it, dude,

792
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,159
Like I just wanted so bad her brain to be

793
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:17,639
splattered everywhere, but hopefully that's coming next.

794
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: Well, I thought Cyril was gonna be the one to

795
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,320
actually kill her. When he starts choking her, I thought,

796
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,239
holy fuck, like this is his world is rattled and

797
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,840
he's been compromised, and he's emotionally unstable.

798
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: Just not going good for him.

799
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:33,039
Speaker 3: Uh, but I just got a kick out of it

800
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,519
when he snapped out of it. He still was not

801
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:37,079
feeling great, but he snapped out of it and stopped

802
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,599
choking her. When Deirdre was like straight from the Empire,

803
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:42,440
she pulled the old you know, I spoke with the

804
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,480
Emperor about this line, and he stopped choking her out,

805
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:49,599
So I thought that was kind of chuckle worthy. But yeah,

806
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,320
he's just he He's he definitely has grown up as

807
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,159
a character. And you made a good comparison there with

808
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,280
that that former imperial officer from the Obi Wan show

809
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,119
that saw how things started to change and just kind

810
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:04,159
of made that transition, and I felt like later on

811
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:06,360
we were gonna see that too. After we'll talk about

812
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,519
the Mond's speech. But when the driver was trying with

813
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,360
listen to the speech, and the driver was trying to

814
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,519
call into like ICBHQ, like like how are things going

815
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:18,039
They're just like, if you don't have anything to report,

816
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:20,480
just shut up, and he's like, okay, fine. I thought

817
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,760
he was gonna make like a U turn and this

818
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,840
is gonna be another person that listened to that and

819
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,719
kind of started to feel that change.

820
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: This is the ICP. When he shut the fuck it

821
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,199
was just like the guy worrying about his job security

822
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,320
and it was like, don't go back unless you have anything,

823
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,519
and he's just sitting there like, oh my god, like

824
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,400
I'm a fucking idiot, which I feel like I can't

825
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,840
relate other than like the political stuff, can't relate to

826
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,719
any of the stuff in the show. But in that moment,

827
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,679
can We've all been there where you speak up at

828
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:51,679
work you're like, oh what about this like that, like okay, fuck,

829
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,880
I just I know I screwed up here. I'm sorry guys,

830
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,199
you know.

831
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think that the at the end of

832
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,280
the day when he's just ignored the rumors and whatnot

833
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,800
and he's trying to tell the the resistance group on

834
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Gore that like, oh, it's just it's all rumors, like

835
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,159
no mining ships are here, like they're starting to take

836
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:13,119
whatever's in the ground.

837
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: There's a fleet whatever.

838
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, ye add he's just ignoring it, still trying to

839
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,079
tell him like, yeah, we just need to pin this

840
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,760
on outside instigators, you know, just die hard to the

841
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,760
end on this this lie. So it's a yeah, it's

842
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,559
it's it's crazy, and ultimately it just sent him into

843
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:34,360
a frenzy where he just jumped after Cassian and this

844
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:36,480
I feel like this happened so quick because he was

845
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:38,840
standing there and all of a sudden he just tackles Cassium.

846
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480
But he didn't know Cassian was gaming at at Deir Dra.

847
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:46,159
And he also, I don't think from thee with with

848
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:55,480
his with his his uh notorious a mindset and mentality

849
00:39:55,519 --> 00:39:59,440
of being very structure based and focused and whatnot task oriented,

850
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:01,760
then I could maybe this is the kind of person

851
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,159
that would have recognized Cassian still even though it's been

852
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,000
years and years and years later, but I'm still not

853
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,760
sold necessarily on that. But he was dead set fixed

854
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000
on him. So I think it's just such interpretation whether

855
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:16,920
or not he did know that Cassian was gonna shoot

856
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,840
a Deirdre or he did recognize Cassian either or works,

857
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,320
because they mean he just charged is at him and

858
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,480
ignores everyone else.

859
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, the only thing on this where it's like

860
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,639
it's funny for me to like because all that's so

861
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,119
high and for me, I don't know if this is

862
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,320
a negative to have like a question about it. I

863
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,039
don't know if I fully bought the moment where he

864
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,960
attacked Cassian. For me, it felt a little out of

865
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,920
place because I feel like this guy's very smart and

866
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,000
he'd put two and two together that Okay, we were

867
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:48,079
hunting casting down for x Y and Z. But this

868
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:51,599
this episode was like his revelation of like, oh, x

869
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Y and Z were like I was wrong about that.

870
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,639
I was on the wrong side of history about that.

871
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:57,920
So for him still to be like fuck you, Like

872
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,480
I would have been fine if it was like maybe

873
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,119
a tag and they fought for a little bit then

874
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,639
he realized it and they did get there at the end, right,

875
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:05,400
because he could have shot and Or, and he says

876
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,400
the sites and not to so I do feel like

877
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,400
if that guy didn't shoot him, maybe Sierral would have

878
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,039
jumped on a bike with and Or and he would

879
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,039
have turned and done something. But he didn't get that chance.

880
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,760
And that's fine. Fuck zero, he's a piece of shit,

881
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,159
you know, Like he still helped that he helped what happened

882
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,119
here right this massacre, but so like it wasn't because

883
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,320
the fight scene so intense, it was so well shot,

884
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:27,519
so it was all that was great. I just didn't

885
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:31,159
know if I bought him that moment that why like

886
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,199
after like especially with what's going on right now, like

887
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:38,519
why he'd be attacking casting like that to murder him,

888
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:41,119
because then he's in no better sense than the other people.

889
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,800
I get it. They had this big rivalry and he

890
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,039
you know, probably killed one of his friends in season one.

891
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:50,320
I can't remember. I just didn't know if I completely

892
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:52,039
bought that, but I think they kind of took it

893
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,840
home with me for the uh uh, the moment at

894
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,679
the end there, but yeah, it was just it's something

895
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,000
I think I need to stew on a little bit more. So.

896
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm happy that he didn't pull the trigger,

897
00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:06,039
and like was getting there, I was worried he was

898
00:42:06,039 --> 00:42:09,039
gonna get shot, like just before he shoots, and or

899
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:11,760
just for plot armor's sake, like just to see and

900
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,239
or it's like yeah, really like he was actually he

901
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,159
just died thinking that he was gonna kill and or

902
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,960
like that's how we're ending this guy's story. So I

903
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,159
I guess I agree with you to an extent. I

904
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:23,280
I love the sequence of them just going at it,

905
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,119
like and Cyril, like, you know, one thing choking out

906
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,960
the Dedre's intimidating, but like stuff very big, very snow,

907
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:35,840
very tall, you know, like he's using those those serial

908
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,880
man hands to uh to to choke her out there.

909
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:41,719
But like he was fucking beating the ship out of

910
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,519
an or like he was given it to him. If

911
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:46,039
and Or didn't reach for that bowl, it might have

912
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:47,360
ended right then and there.

913
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: We might not like how many fights, how many fights

914
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:51,800
as cereal been in the last four.

915
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,039
Speaker 2: Years, And like, I think it's just pure adrenaline and

916
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,199
rage in that moment though, That's what No, that's.

917
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: What him and uh fucking Ddre doing. They turn in

918
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,480
the light, it's off. It's just like even the kids,

919
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,679
she gave him no vice versa she's gonna being the shame.

920
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,800
So he's like learned, she's like gopt better. Even that

921
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,639
kiss she gave him was very violent him viciously, So

922
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:14,880
like maybe maybe that's what they do. They just fucking go.

923
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:18,199
They just play like home intruder every night, you know,

924
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:22,000
and they take cordial Yeah of course, Yeah, do whatever

925
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,719
he wants. This is consentual and me that's why, like

926
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:31,320
like he's sixty six. Yeah, this comes out with the

927
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,079
Clone Trooper, the Clone Trooper out and everything like that. No,

928
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,960
could you imagine the whole fight of the and Or.

929
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,800
He's just fucking rock hard because this is what he

930
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,440
does with like he just used to like at the

931
00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:44,119
end like agetting his wrongs off. But yeah, I was

932
00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,519
taking him back how like well he did against and

933
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:48,719
Or because it's like I feel like and Nor is

934
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,159
one more train had been through lost situations these last

935
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:53,840
four years, but Cereal seems like he's just been in

936
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,800
the deaths most of the time. But that's okay.

937
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,079
Speaker 2: He's totally caught off guard though, like he is like,

938
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,920
no way is he preparing for someone to just who

939
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,199
is it? Who's the rest of that spears people? You

940
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,239
went all out on him.

941
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,559
Speaker 1: Rome Rains Goldberg. It's just a lot of one.

942
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Were we just talking about where somebody got speared three times?

943
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: Joe, I said Joe from Finale? Yeah that was that.

944
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,440
He's Joe. John Padro says, I think Zero blames casting

945
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,440
for everything because the easy thing for him to do

946
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,320
at that point. I agree, But I think I think

947
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,159
that my issue with that is this episode was finally

948
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,719
kind of taking the lights off of zero to be like, hey,

949
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,280
I don't just jump to conclusions, don't be that dumb,

950
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,880
and then him attacking casting kind of puts him back

951
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,679
to like, oh, you're kind of a simpleton again, you know,

952
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,440
Like that's what I liked about the revelation, and then

953
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,199
the casting kind of made it seem like, oh, like,

954
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,320
why would anyone jump to that conclusion? Right like, and

955
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,199
I get it because he is a certain way, but

956
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,239
I thought this episode was kind of supposed to be

957
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,599
an awakening for him to finally be like, Okay, I've

958
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:59,360
been wrong for you know, the past seven eight years

959
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,199
of my life. You know again, it's a massive complaint.

960
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,519
It's something I need to think about it. And I

961
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:05,840
also want to hear because usually they do, because we've

962
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,599
talked about, like a couple of weeks ago when the

963
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:10,559
whole thing happened with Biggs. Usually there's interviews stuff like that.

964
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,880
So I want to hear the motivations behind some of

965
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,559
the choices in the show and then go okay, I'll

966
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,239
watch in that light and not saying they someone should

967
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,960
explain the show and that would make it better for me.

968
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,039
But something I just need to stew on because the

969
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,280
whole episode was about turning him and then he was

970
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,440
attacking our main hero, right, so it caught me off

971
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,480
guard in that moment there.

972
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, and last thing I'll say on that sequence,

973
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,039
I personally would have I think I would have liked

974
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:37,719
it better if he did survive in that moment, like

975
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,920
even get shot and wounded, and then they like get

976
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,119
him out of there just for the juice that's there,

977
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:44,360
But like, where is that gonna lead? We know he's

978
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
not in Rogue one, so it seems like it's just

979
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,360
kind of something that they didn't realize how much this

980
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,199
character would blossom, at least in my eyes, because I

981
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:55,519
definitely did not foresee this whatsoever. But now that we're here,

982
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:57,760
it's like, man, I wish I could get that Rogue

983
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,679
one DLC with serial a big part of that mission.

984
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:04,159
Speaker 1: You know, I had such intrusive thoughts during this episode.

985
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,760
I was like, you know what, I'd been completely fine

986
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:08,679
if like two weeks from now then announced, you know what,

987
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,079
We're just gonna remake a new Hope and Empire strikes back.

988
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,159
But like with the Gilroy's doing it like just in

989
00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:18,280
this vein, I was like, yeah, fuck it, dude, you know, yeah,

990
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:20,400
Like it just sucks because I know at leads a

991
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,360
Rogue One, which, like you know, I don't like as

992
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,159
much everybody, but she's like all these characters are so massive,

993
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,800
and that's one thing that does Like I feel like

994
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,199
this even raises We talked about this before, like mon

995
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,760
Moth in the movies. This race just Star Wars in

996
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,000
general to me of like like the massacre, like we've

997
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:38,719
kind of talked around it. Just the actual masker in

998
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,639
a rial. Treis calming here because it was kind of

999
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:42,920
in the same vein of best Stars content since Rogue One.

1000
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Holy shit, get more writers like Gilroy on board and

1001
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,719
less of whatever they have had the past six years.

1002
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,960
I think maybe, and kirk Lar on board. I think

1003
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,480
it's liked a lot of the I'm not sure. Well

1004
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:55,920
that's a discussion. You know you like Boba fet right, Taylor,

1005
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,199
Oh yeah, yeah, so there's that. But anyway, so I

1006
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,199
want Zero kick the ship a bofet, that's all one.

1007
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:04,719
I want Seero to come back world between Worlds, just

1008
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,679
kick the shit and take this broat. Absolutely. Yeah, but

1009
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:14,400
that like you watch the Origional trilogy, and this is

1010
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,559
why it I get it right, from a statistical empire

1011
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:20,960
point of view, it makes sense to we have a

1012
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,679
big weapon that can just shoot a planet and destroy it, right,

1013
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,960
that is scary and that is like, wow, that's a

1014
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,559
big moment. But seeing that scene and New Hope versus this,

1015
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:33,280
even though this is just on the ground boots, good

1016
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,159
old blasters, this is gonna be scary more and even

1017
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,679
for some weekends I really enjoyed, Like obviously it's like

1018
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,519
a copy of New Hope, but I loved when they

1019
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:42,679
showed the perspective of the people on the planets right

1020
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,760
when the lasers were coming and seeing that thing like, man,

1021
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,199
you're just seeing a laser come on your planets over

1022
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,800
I thought Jaj and the team that was a really

1023
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,960
good choice. But still that can't match what happened tonight

1024
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,000
when the Master starts. And that's where it's like what

1025
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:58,199
you talk about currently being scared of blasters for the

1026
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,960
most part, of course have been and on Rogue one,

1027
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:04,119
but they're always used in like a like the heroes

1028
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:06,320
block them or they like it's just like fodder to

1029
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,079
like get our heroes from pointing to point B or

1030
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,280
just war fodder, right, and I'm all down for that.

1031
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,280
I'm like, I'm not knocking the original trilogy for that.

1032
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,559
I like think about the scene a New Hope where

1033
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:16,880
there's a bunch of storm storm troopers shooting, and what

1034
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,159
hansl was like, Oh, like it's very much like these

1035
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,639
isn't scary really at all. But this just seeing all

1036
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,719
them unload and uncock and then just hearing a Star

1037
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,519
Wars sound that you usually get happy memories from and

1038
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:32,880
just seeing people masterred. Now I'm like a tongue in cheek,

1039
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,960
not on like an off screen literally you're seeing like

1040
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:41,440
a Nazi concentration camp kill people that are just they're

1041
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,679
all innocence, right. They even have one sniper shoot their

1042
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,360
own empire person to make it say like oh they

1043
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,559
attack first and then they just go to town. And I

1044
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:51,440
did really like too. There was that like the leader

1045
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,039
of the convoy of the troops that was like he

1046
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,880
was much like zero, where it's like, well we're not

1047
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,800
gonna go that far, right then if I'm on his time,

1048
00:48:58,119 --> 00:48:59,519
he had this look of like what do you fucking

1049
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,000
mean We're gonna go out there and like like handle

1050
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,440
the situation, Like at this point they are just peaceful,

1051
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:07,320
right because I thought when they had those bottles, it's like, oh,

1052
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,440
don't throw them because you're gonna lose that like kind

1053
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,119
of rebellion, like oh, we they struck first, but they

1054
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,480
had to because someone set them up. But that's what

1055
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:18,559
I mean, like that masculine seeing everybody and again like

1056
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,079
think about I can't remember what are those droids called

1057
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:25,400
to the keys, the cakes units and Rogue one again

1058
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,119
cool design, but it's used in a very fun, lighthearted

1059
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:32,320
the classic Star Wars group of characters. And there's a

1060
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,199
droid on the team, right Hurrah. This is the first

1061
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:38,440
time seeing from boots on the ground perspective of you

1062
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,719
got like a blaster pistol and when he just picked

1063
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,159
up I can't remember her name, and she was part

1064
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:45,599
of the rebellion crew on Gorman like that we kind

1065
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:48,000
of met the last few episode. She slapped Cereal. That

1066
00:49:48,039 --> 00:49:50,440
thing just fucking picked her up and chucked her and

1067
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:53,320
killed her on impact by you know, brain damage or

1068
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,480
broken neck, whatever it may be. That's where it's like,

1069
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,199
droids aren't scary, Like think about Phantom Menace, the DROIDI

1070
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,559
cars aren't They're all fun. They're all just to get

1071
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:03,559
being down. This is the first time I've been like, man,

1072
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,320
this is the most I've been scared of droid is

1073
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,119
an empire strikes back when han Sol gets like that

1074
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:11,519
fucking thing's coming for his face, like Jesus. But this

1075
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,719
was like, man, this is horrific. And that's where it's

1076
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,199
like seeing all this in a Star Wars point view,

1077
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:20,639
where again all that happens, all the wrong, the three planets, whatever,

1078
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,159
this is really scary, and that's where a benefit it

1079
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,000
raised up the empire for me have put them in

1080
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:28,559
like man, they are I know they're always an allegory

1081
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:32,039
for Nazis, but this was like the in the best way,

1082
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,559
the worst of it. It was terrible. And even before

1083
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,159
you go, Taylor, we were talking about zero. He says, like,

1084
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:39,639
what are we doing here? And she says, just taking orders.

1085
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,840
And that's many things that the Nazis said. After the

1086
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,280
Nazis got cant like caught right, that was always kind

1087
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,239
of there They're trying to get out like, oh well,

1088
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,199
I was just following orders. It's like, yeah, sure, but

1089
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,599
your orders were to fucking like burn little children like

1090
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,840
that never pop in your mind of like what the

1091
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,199
orders were that was, and they purposed to put that

1092
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,880
line there to get that allegory.

1093
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,039
Speaker 3: So, uh, would you say that the uh these Kax

1094
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:04,039
units are more scary than the Dark Troopers from then Loreian.

1095
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, those aren't scary at all.

1096
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: No, you don't think they're scary. I think they're pretty terrifying.

1097
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,199
Speaker 1: No, not like they again, it's just like man like

1098
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,800
hold on Gogu and it's just like jet facts and like, no,

1099
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,199
those not scary at all. I've never been scared of

1100
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:21,159
a troid. This is the first time. When they were

1101
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,960
it was already batten off the store troops out there.

1102
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,519
But I'm like, yeah, some of the droids, I was like,

1103
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:27,400
oh my fucking gone. That one just kicks a cement

1104
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,239
block and a person.

1105
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,599
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my, oh man, the barrier, yeah, like

1106
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,000
six people. Gosh. Yeah, I definitely like new tear of

1107
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:37,320
being scared of droids, but like last time I've been

1108
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,199
scared of a droid wash Star Wars, Battlefront two, Super

1109
00:51:40,199 --> 00:51:44,400
Battle Super Battle Droids, watch Out Watch those rockets.

1110
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1111
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 2: The uh.

1112
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: It was nice to see these CACKS units actually come

1113
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:55,119
off as their counterpart versions in Fallen Order. Jedi Fallen

1114
00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:56,639
Hor because when you fight them in Ji Fallen Hor,

1115
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,079
they're fucking tough. And when you see the only the

1116
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:01,480
only one you ever get to really see a live

1117
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:03,480
action is in Rogue one, and then obviously there's the

1118
00:52:03,519 --> 00:52:06,360
one in and Or, but it just holds casting and

1119
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,920
season one up against the wall before and arrests him.

1120
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:11,679
You don't actually get to see it and what it's

1121
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,800
capable of. So when you play that, like you'd remember this.

1122
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,559
I don't know if you played a Kirkland, but I

1123
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,320
know Travis, you fought a few of them and fall

1124
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,400
in order, and like they're just the fucking throw you

1125
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,440
around and whip you around, and it's like this is

1126
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:26,679
very different from what the portrayal was in the actual

1127
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,039
live action, but yeah, seeing it now here, it's it

1128
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:34,239
is quite something else. And I just throwing that that girl, Yeah,

1129
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,400
kicking that block and just like eliminating a bunch of

1130
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,280
people and then just they just they're so.

1131
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:43,159
Speaker 2: Hard to kill. You gotta smash them with a speeder.

1132
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: But I think it's cool how this is like the

1133
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,880
segue into Kate two s O and how he kind

1134
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,000
of joins up the joins up the team.

1135
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Even though I'm pretty sure. Again, if you look it up,

1136
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,639
this episode is a full like cash tag. Canon doesn't

1137
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,800
matter because that's not how and Or and K two

1138
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,440
s o me in the comic book. So again, they

1139
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,400
don't fucking care. They lie to us ten years.

1140
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: How do they meet in the comic books?

1141
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,519
Speaker 1: Look it up? Look it up right now. It's something

1142
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:08,760
where like I think and Or's on a mission in

1143
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,320
like disguised and you just like hacks the thing or

1144
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,440
something like this. I don't think it's this because I

1145
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480
think many people are like, well, they can't do that

1146
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:17,519
in the show, because it happens like I think they

1147
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:19,960
meet like a few weeks before Rogue one, and this

1148
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:22,440
is like a full year later. Tear well you looked

1149
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,000
it up. I'm gonna take an ad break and then

1150
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,079
tell you a few things we're doing because I forgot links,

1151
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,519
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And uh, yeah, we got I'm trying to think mission

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possible eight review coming up. Assumeing we were reviewing Last

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of Us and then after this in a couple of weeks,

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I guess we'll be reviewing Ironheart. I'm pretty sure we'll

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at least review a couple episodes and go from there.

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But yeah, and if you can't subscribe to Patreon, that

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or joining discord to a chat with us and other listeners.

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There you go. So, Taylor, any luck on how they

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met there?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they were at content for sure. Yeah. But

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you know what, I will give them credit.

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Speaker 3: Though, because with the yeah, they they fixed the another

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form of retconned.

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Speaker 2: Canon with with the shot massage. I don't know if.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I know, but that's again they so

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kirking what they did. They killed the character off. And

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then because Dave Filon is like I just fucking love

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a sad adventust, he used her again. He's like, oh, well,

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I guess we have to explain how she's back. So yeah,

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that that's where it's like, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry people, they.

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Speaker 1: Picked their backs. But like again, unfortunately, sadly animation, uh,

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comic books, all this stuff. Like that's why I got

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a little unhinged of not caring about this stuff because

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when it's like, oh, this is the origin of Kylo Ren, No,

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it's not. Because it's gonna happen at some point we're

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gonna get some animated show where it explains ed Y

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and Z like I'm sorry, and Taylor, you lost the

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battle everybody you've like so like they literally did an

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and or comic book to explain how he met Kate

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to sa and this shows like Nope, that's not how

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it happened. And it's like the whole idea, like everything's cannon.

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They sold you a false bill, fucking a bill of

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false comics. Aren't no even an animation. The animation is

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lied just before and there's many multiple things, Taylor, they've

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conned us and they've given us their time, their money,

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our views, everything that with that whole oh yeah, everything's cannon.

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It's not. It's fucking not animation broken cannon. We've talked

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about this many times. I'm not gonna go over this.

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There's so many times we talked about this. I think

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with fucking Canaan they already did that, and even massage

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they did that. Right, how do you say, oh, she

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died and then like actually we're gonna bring her back

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and no, she didn't die. No, that's showing they don't

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care about can that's them cleaning up the masks after

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guys you can go back in this to all our

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Star Wars episodes. There are probably over ten.

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Speaker 2: I knew.

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Speaker 1: I knew. No, absolutely, there's probably over ten situations. I

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knew I was right when even Clay and Katie, who

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are always on your side, I was like, yeah, they

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don't fucking care about Cannon where they don't. They really don't.

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It's all about live action stuff. They don't care about

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the books. They don't care about any of that stuff.

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So just remember hashtag Travis is right, told you so,

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hashtag canon doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: This is Travis Hi.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right? Brother? Because I brought this up because

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I'm pretty sure when they announced the show, mean to

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that discussion, I'm like, I bet they're not gonna do

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because the whole thing was fans were pointing out, oh,

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you actually can have K twos on the show because

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it just wouldn't work with the timeline that they set up, right,

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And Taylor's like, oh, yeah, they're probably not gonna do it.

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But I'm like no, because it's and or and if

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they want these characters in there and here we are

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like three years later where yeap k TWS was in

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here makes no sense. I'm fine, because I've accepted this

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a long time ago. I'm I'm Taylor is fucking zero.

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He's still in denial. It's like, well, I'm sure the

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rumors aren't true. That canon matters, kind of for sure matters,

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and one day like fuck.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna tackle you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like one day something big is gonna happen. He's

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gonna be like I guess I was wrong, Like that's

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what it is like, and yeah, they said k ts

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the second I saw that droid get hit and Andrew

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like dramatically looked back and like, oh my god, they're

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fucking ret conning the whole comic book, like give me

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Like it felt that's one thing, Like it felt a

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little shooting, like, oh, do you need anything before you go? Yeah,

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give me that troid. It's like, man, we canna get

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the fuck off this planet. What do you mean? I

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gotta cary this heavy astroid to the ship. Like but again,

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it's fine. I like the scene. The ending was cool

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with u K twos, so the score was great and

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winning in the credits like, oh it was great. I'm

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fine with that being that because again, canon doesn't matter.

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But yeah, just accept another l here and now.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'll take the l but I didn't even

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know this comic existed, so I didn't know that they

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were breaking cannon with K two s.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing, ladies, gentlemen, me and Taylor have

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talked about this cannon and this chain of events, and

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he goes, oh, I don't even remember. So when he's like,

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what other times did cannon get broken? He doesn't even

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remember this fucking comic book.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even remember two forms of cannon. Well, I

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never we never read this comic book.

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Speaker 1: There's Star Wars, there's the comic books.

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Speaker 3: The Podammer and Meeting Ray issue in Lead. I give you,

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I give you that one, but that was a book.

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Some books obviously don't matter. And then there was the

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other one with Massage Dying. But they so Dark Disciple

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is a canon novel, if you want to look at

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that way. But again, the books, I don't see the

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books as cannon. I don't see the comic books as

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cannon animation.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 3: I think they've done a decent job at making and

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keeping it canon, especially with this this connecting, uh, this

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connecting to rebels uh, with even like the drops of

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like gold Squadron, how they concluded Mathma's story here with

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Cassid and how Luthen was kind of like, okay, where

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you're staying here, We're gonna sparrow you off to like

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the Rebel cell that takes over and Rebel. So if

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you want to see what happens with Mathma after this

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with and Or, I mean, just go watch the Rebels arc.

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That that shows the complete follow up there, and it's

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cool that that kind of intertwines and kind of connects.

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Speaker 2: So fuck I forgot Tony Kilroy about it. That is

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a part of that project because if not, I probably

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won't know.

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Speaker 1: He said he doesn't like Star Wars, so that and

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I don't know how that means we're getting the best

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Star Wars. Fuck, because I just look up like Cannon breaks,

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I love that now, the biggest one. It's just Caddy Mundy,

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Like that's the first, Like that's like the first, like

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ten articles is like act and fucking Caddy Mundy and.

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Speaker 3: Well, people are just pissed off about the age thing,

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but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Several Cannon it's still like, you know, this is the thing.

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I didn't. I don't care, but it's fine. Kon on

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the Cannon But any thoughts on the K two s

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SO introduction.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they they killed it on just the

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threat level. Like I felt like I was watching a

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Terminator movie with these uh, these KX units coming out there.

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You highlighted a couple of the the brutal fatalities that

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they dished out, but the one when uh, uh, what's

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what's the chap's name? Willman?

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Speaker 1: Willman?

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Speaker 2: Like Willman, Yeah, Willman. He's like cash, you know, I

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gotta go back for her. And then he's like no,

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like we want to get the fuck out of there.

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And then you just see this man go soaring through

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the sky and just hit the wall and like put

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a meteor crater in the like like the concrete wall,

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and it just falls limp to the ground, like, yeah,

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I'm fucking out of there. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, lady.

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Uh clearly, you know she had a magic area that

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Willman was was was all over. But it worked out,

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you know, they got out. I'm hoping that he lives

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throughout the night because we didn't see that conclusion. But uh, yeah,

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I know the KX stuff. I like the the moment too.

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At first I thought K two s O was the

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one that like when Cyrel goes into that back room,

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sounds spicy, but when he goes in that back room

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with the KX it's and that one's just staring at him.

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I just assumed that was K two s O because

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it just it was the one that that showed the

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most life. But uh uh, because yeah, like when when

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they squish it, I'm like, oh, well that can't be

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K two, so that one's pretty pretty out of function.

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But uh, I like the moment when you asked for

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one more favor to just get them to haul it

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into the vehicle, because when he was looking at him, like, Okay,

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this must be K two s O. But how the

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fuck is he gonna lift his giant Like I imagine that

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weighs just hundreds upon hundreds of pounds.

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Speaker 1: It was a big request in the middle of a

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massacre to be a K kill Graham robo.

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Speaker 2: It was like a cool downstage. Though. It's like when

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you when when they do the wide shot. It's a

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great wide shot. It reminded me, honestly of like the

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ending of like Two Towers, when you just see like

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like the giant fell beasts just like flying over Mordor

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and it's just like holy fuck, like this is this

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is but it's the tie fighters. In this situation, you

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just have like people just like walking on the streets

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like normally, and like these people even know that this happened.

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It's just kind of like around the whatever it's called

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the transport vehicle that Cassian's driving in that moment, but no,

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the uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel bad for Cassian because he did not need

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to be brought here for this assassination attempt, and I

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know Luthen supposedly wanted him to be there to to

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take out Dager.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: It just he's there and then he's just in the

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crowd and he starts to notice like holy shit, like

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there's a lot more of bigger imperial presence they're barricading,

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and like just the intensity when the crowd gets shuffled

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in and this is like you watch the original trilogy

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and you're like, oh, Stormtroopers, you got cool armor, but

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it's not really that intimidating or scary. They's just you know,

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they miss their Stormtroopers. But then in this like just

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well there's like ten of them standing on that staircase

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and it's just you feel terrified by by this little

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squadron here and there's that box.

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Speaker 2: It's over for you. Yeah, I'm just waiting, clim I

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thought the TIPE fighters were gonna come in and just

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start raining down on them.

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Speaker 1: They're singing along and then and Or in his friend

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Like I love that, especially to when Andrew the first

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time trying like he wants to get out of there,

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but as he walks up, he just sees like troopers

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and Empire people all over. It's like, oh, you can't

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just even leave this area right now, you know. It's

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like you're just you're just kinda box. And that's why

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they'll throughout the rest episode, every time he moves, he's

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always like behind like a bean or some cement, Like

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he's like trying like he's trying to have some coverage

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because he knows it's about to go down, so he

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has to just wait it out. But yeah, that anticipation

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and because it takes like probably twenty twenty five minutes

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somewhere in there, but that build it was worth it,

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Like score was great, but just seeing all the sides,

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seeing everything go down of oh man is but him

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this is where it's like again taking something that you

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know maybe a few times has been scary, But I

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don't think there's been anything scarier for a tie fighter

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use than right here when it's almost like the first

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sign of like cereals like walk, like maybe it happens

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01:04:21,159 --> 01:04:23,280
two times, but I know it happens. I can't remember

1399
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,519
the other character, and it happens a serial when he

1400
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:28,000
goes out. But just the idea of those ty fers

1401
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,639
when they whosh by and they're super low, it's just

1402
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,239
like literally at that point, it's like all right, if

1403
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,119
you guys don't get what's going on, it is fucking like, yeah,

1404
01:04:37,159 --> 01:04:39,840
that's that's our glider moment, like that is, And that's

1405
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,159
where it's scary because that sound and just that moment,

1406
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:44,880
you you know what, any second that thing's gonna come

1407
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,800
by again. But the next time it's gonna be raining

1408
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,440
down like gunfire, you know, laser fire down you. So

1409
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,679
that's where it's again like, yeah, ty fights can be scary,

1410
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:54,840
but that's the most scary we've been in ty fire too,

1411
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,719
just like fuck is again when your boots on the ground,

1412
01:04:57,719 --> 01:04:59,280
you know, a guy with the force, you don't have

1413
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,639
a millennium fulk you just jump in. When you're just

1414
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:06,199
a guy with a couple of cocktails. Yeah, when you

1415
01:05:06,559 --> 01:05:08,280
and you just got a flag and you got a

1416
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,800
fucking tie fire above you, it's like, what are we

1417
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,000
gonna do? So it's like all these signs of oh

1418
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:17,079
yeah this is Yeah. Sure, some stormtroopers and Imperial people die,

1419
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:20,960
but not anywhere near numbers wise. Obviously Masker all of

1420
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,599
them pretty much die here other than a few people

1421
01:05:22,599 --> 01:05:26,440
that escape. But it's yeah, just very scary brutal stuff.

1422
01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:29,159
Speaker 2: So yeah, I still feel like the uh I think

1423
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:32,199
it's the all DAWNI episode of season one, that's probably

1424
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,719
my peak fear of tie fighters because I just remember

1425
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,079
like the sound of them as you described there. But uh, yeah, no,

1426
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:41,199
they did a good job of the threat and just

1427
01:05:41,199 --> 01:05:43,079
just double down on what I was saying earlier on

1428
01:05:43,079 --> 01:05:45,280
the spoiler sect or spoiler free section of just like

1429
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:51,239
the impact of well used audio design on just multiplying

1430
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:54,360
the fear factor of blaster fire. Like I it's like

1431
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,840
you watch like a like a somewhat realistic war movie

1432
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,559
and it's showing like artillery and like people like trenches

1433
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:03,239
of just these like like some of these, and like

1434
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,719
again it's going fast, so it probably isn't this big,

1435
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:08,639
but it just looks like this giant fucking cylinder of

1436
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,519
like energy just going by you. And if it just

1437
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:17,039
seeing the fellow Gorman's just dropping and these these like

1438
01:06:17,079 --> 01:06:19,800
they feel like heavy blasters just flying through the air

1439
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,360
and just and then you got Cyril that's just like

1440
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:25,760
looking like Frodo was, you know, putting on the ring

1441
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,679
and staring at the fell beasts get down. A couple

1442
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:32,920
of the rings references tonight. But yeah, no, I think

1443
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,960
this is peak usage of the blaster fire. It just

1444
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,800
just purely on the audio design. Like the visuals look good,

1445
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,519
but like specifically the audio design was was really I

1446
01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,880
think what is what made it there? But yeah, I

1447
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,840
had a double down on that cause that was awesome.

1448
01:06:49,079 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: I think they're ready to move on to something else.

1449
01:06:51,679 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: Oh you know, it's just I won't say much.

1450
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:55,639
Speaker 2: It's just brutal.

1451
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,559
Speaker 3: There's just the the shots there with the squad is

1452
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:01,119
and like the pushing through like the riot shields, and

1453
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,719
when that first sniper sets up the fake shot, the

1454
01:07:03,719 --> 01:07:06,719
fake shot, the real shot, but the fake kill, real kill,

1455
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,159
but the fake set up fucking kill to make it.

1456
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:11,159
Speaker 2: Look like it was the protesters instigating this.

1457
01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:14,679
Speaker 3: And then just where the barricades are there's like there's

1458
01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:16,719
a one quick shot of this woman like she kind

1459
01:07:16,719 --> 01:07:19,079
of trips, but she's trying to like jump back over

1460
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:21,320
this like barricade to get away. But the one trooper

1461
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,800
just like like not even a foot in front of him,

1462
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,199
just raises his blaster and shoots her, and just like

1463
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:28,159
she's fucking down.

1464
01:07:28,199 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, we're gone.

1465
01:07:32,599 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: That's exactly it.

1466
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:34,679
Speaker 2: Like it's this brutal heal.

1467
01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: They're just opening fire, killing these people. That's just the

1468
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,840
kind of shit that's just terrifying. It's like it's, yeah,

1469
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,280
just fucking sheve man, she just planning all this shit out.

1470
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,400
And even when it stems at the start with that

1471
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:58,320
conversation where uh, oh, what's his name, Pelegrave, Deirdre's boss,

1472
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:06,039
bad As parag Yeah, so when he's talking to deer Dredd,

1473
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:08,400
he's like, sorry, I'm sorry, part of gas, part of

1474
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:09,519
part of gas.

1475
01:08:09,559 --> 01:08:10,039
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1476
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: So when he's talking to deer dreadd he's he's basically

1477
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,519
just saying, oh, sorry, I was I'm late or whatever.

1478
01:08:14,559 --> 01:08:16,920
But Krenic is talking to the emperor right now, and

1479
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,479
the Emperor has been briefed, and so this is this

1480
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:19,960
is I don't know.

1481
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:27,079
Speaker 2: He's here saying that he's doing a clue, what's going on?

1482
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: What happened to Gorman's cry Raised? He's crying raised Dad

1483
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,600
right now. And Cranic's like, yeah, the Emperor told.

1484
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 3: Me to do this, but I just think that it's

1485
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,000
it's eerie when he drops this line, when he's like, yeah,

1486
01:08:43,079 --> 01:08:44,960
so I don't know all the science behind it, but

1487
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:45,720
it's bad luck.

1488
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 2: Gorman thought, fuck okay.

1489
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,319
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, so the fleet will be there in

1490
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,960
like forty eight hours and we're just gonna We're just

1491
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,960
gonna take it out of the ground. There's no more,

1492
01:08:54,039 --> 01:08:58,600
there's no synthetics, there's no alternatives, like, this is what

1493
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,680
we need and it's gonna basically destroy Gorman. It's like, fuck, okay,

1494
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,560
here we go. Escalation, It's it's happening. But yeah, just

1495
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,720
everything with the protest and them just killing all these

1496
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,880
innocent people, it's just it's brutal.

1497
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,119
Speaker 1: And then we got it confirmed. Honestly, the writers and

1498
01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:15,520
creators said that he wasn't in the show. But yeah,

1499
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,800
that clip of Deer just choking was not Vader. It

1500
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,319
was just her having a panic attack in her own

1501
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:23,640
little room there and yeah, I'll be very other than

1502
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,279
wanting to see her brain splattered everywhere next episode, you know,

1503
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:30,119
our next batch episodes, very curious what she does here.

1504
01:09:30,159 --> 01:09:33,600
That's always like the good and bad thing about the

1505
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,439
year jump, right, because there's a I think there's a

1506
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:36,960
couple of times in the show like, man, I want

1507
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:39,920
just like the follow up immediately of what happens. Right,

1508
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,920
But great acting by her all round this episode again,

1509
01:09:44,279 --> 01:09:47,119
many highlights for all these actors, but that moment when

1510
01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:50,760
she's breaking down is trying to she's like trying to cry,

1511
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,720
like she's trying not to cry and trying to get

1512
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,920
in like imperial mode, but she can't stop. And it's

1513
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,439
kind of times at the same time, they go to

1514
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,359
Cerials Mom and I guarantee you we're gonna get that.

1515
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,520
We're gonna get see between those two next week. And

1516
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,000
I think that's gonna be really powerful. And I think

1517
01:10:07,039 --> 01:10:09,319
Cero Mom's gonna fucking lay down the lawn or make

1518
01:10:09,399 --> 01:10:11,520
Deirdre feel like even more like.

1519
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 3: A piece of like Cyril. She's gonna tackle her and.

1520
01:10:15,359 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: Spear her. Yeah, but no, but you know, you know,

1521
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,960
you know, kill you. But yeah, I think, uh, it's

1522
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,279
gonna be interesting what happens. But she's still you know,

1523
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,479
she's somebody different. She she still chose the empire over

1524
01:10:36,039 --> 01:10:38,079
she tried to set zer up, but she like she

1525
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:39,960
didn't go out there on boots on the ground looking

1526
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,680
for cero. Right. She sent someone else to be like, hey,

1527
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,159
make she don't leave the building. And it's like, well,

1528
01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:45,199
that's like I'm sure I'm not saying she wasn't upset

1529
01:10:45,239 --> 01:10:47,439
about but she still made her choice of what is

1530
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,880
more important. And uh yeah, great performance by her, and

1531
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,439
very excited next week. But like I said, yeah, I

1532
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,520
hope that she fucking eats it next week big time.

1533
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I I'm with you. I'm excited for that

1534
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,000
to happen. But I think of the day, like I'm

1535
01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:04,760
so gonna miss Dandra. Like I I just think, what's

1536
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:10,800
the actress's name? I Denise goo Denise?

1537
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: You said you sound like in a parody movie, like Denise.

1538
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,079
Speaker 2: Goo g o U g h. It's probably like goff

1539
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:23,800
or something. Go. Yeah.

1540
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: No.

1541
01:11:24,079 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 2: I I think she just like embodies this like angry

1542
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:32,520
imperial leader, Like she just like defines resting bitch face,

1543
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,359
but like maximizes it to just like sinister bitch face.

1544
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,279
She just it always feels like her lips twitching, like

1545
01:11:39,279 --> 01:11:43,159
she's just ready to just I don't know, just just

1546
01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:45,760
just tear apart cereal or something. I don't know. Uh,

1547
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,079
she just has that look of the classic imperial evil character.

1548
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,680
And yeah, I think they do such a good job

1549
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,119
at really making it like like even if I don't

1550
01:11:57,119 --> 01:11:59,640
get like lines between characters, like you can just kind

1551
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,760
of tell who is in the certain category of like, kid,

1552
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,960
these are the higher ups more so in the and

1553
01:12:05,079 --> 01:12:07,880
like I know there's even higher ups more than party

1554
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,920
Ass and Dadra and stuff like this, But like they

1555
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,079
do a good job of just discerning and whether it's

1556
01:12:13,119 --> 01:12:16,399
just the colors of what they're wearing or just how

1557
01:12:16,399 --> 01:12:19,439
they carry themselves. But just like the hierarchy of the empire,

1558
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,680
Like if I'm if I'm one of these Gorman's, you know,

1559
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,880
I'm getting my bottle ready to throw, I can kind

1560
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,079
of see who's in charge just based and you know,

1561
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:29,039
of course that's to do with uniforms and such like that,

1562
01:12:29,119 --> 01:12:31,960
but also just I think the way that the certain

1563
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,319
imperial like like the imperial people that are in these

1564
01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:39,079
hidden rooms are just a completely different caliber. And I

1565
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:41,119
think they do a good job of just separating Dadra

1566
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,439
from the likes of Cyril and just other people in general,

1567
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,079
because as you already listed there, Travis is like, yeah,

1568
01:12:48,279 --> 01:12:51,720
like Cereal's probably put her in a situation where she's

1569
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,640
kind of been the most vulnerable she's ever been of

1570
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:58,439
just emotionally wise, which has been interesting because again, jumping

1571
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,600
into d Or season one, never thought I would like

1572
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,319
get this side of just an imperial officer and actually

1573
01:13:03,319 --> 01:13:05,399
be like invested in it. But god damn they did it.

1574
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,199
I at the end of the day, she still didn't

1575
01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:12,760
go out there and like chase Cyril and like drop

1576
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,399
everything for her love, like trying to do what Cassian

1577
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,479
or sorry, kind of what Cassian's trying to do with Bicks, right,

1578
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,880
like like forget all the rebels, forget all this. We

1579
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,640
got love. That's all at all all, that's all that matters.

1580
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:28,560
She's not making that call, like she's like no, like

1581
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,840
I at the end of the day, I'm for the Empire,

1582
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,319
like this is this is the way so.

1583
01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: And I feel like she never gets close to anybody

1584
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,199
ever again because that situation compromised her and how it

1585
01:13:39,239 --> 01:13:42,000
worked out and how he didn't stay Obviously she could

1586
01:13:42,039 --> 01:13:44,079
just die next week. They could they could do the

1587
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:46,800
thing where okay, she just lives on becomes like an appeal,

1588
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,720
Like she's just like a no name imperial. It's like

1589
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,359
on one of the Death Stars when it goes down.

1590
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:55,680
But yeah, yeah, yeah, she becomes fucking raised grandma or

1591
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:00,279
something like that. But like, I don't want I don't

1592
01:14:00,279 --> 01:14:03,119
want that. I think this character should go down, especially

1593
01:14:03,159 --> 01:14:04,720
I think with how they're teasing and or about to

1594
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,680
shoot her, I think should be one of our characters.

1595
01:14:07,159 --> 01:14:09,640
But yeah, I think it will be interesting at least

1596
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,039
in like episode like ten, immediately where she's at, I

1597
01:14:13,039 --> 01:14:14,840
could see her just being even more cold now and

1598
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,199
even almost more ruthless because kind of have to be right.

1599
01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:20,039
So that's why I bet we could see her being

1600
01:14:20,079 --> 01:14:22,920
strong ass. And then when she bumps like somehow into

1601
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,399
Cyro's mother, that might be kind of a moment there.

1602
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,920
But yeah, you know.

1603
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 2: Just to see what happens, it's gonna be like a

1604
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,680
fight scene between Cyril and Cassie and but the mother

1605
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,720
and uh and Dandre just beating the shit up. Absolutely

1606
01:14:36,399 --> 01:14:39,199
good to me, you know, I think she's gonna die.

1607
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,319
I think that after this moment if she were to

1608
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:45,079
live on. She's gonna be the coldest version of herself

1609
01:14:45,079 --> 01:14:47,760
that she's ever been, and there's that much more ruthless,

1610
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:52,560
like like full on evil evil character where she's basically

1611
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,760
cracking a smile seeing you know, people just innocently murdered.

1612
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,000
But man like I also kind of want a world

1613
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:02,279
where we get her living on and like we get

1614
01:15:02,319 --> 01:15:06,840
another type of story of like being a part of it,

1615
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,800
like like this is such a great like it's not

1616
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,279
an origin for her, but like an origin for the

1617
01:15:13,319 --> 01:15:16,359
evolution of her, so like yeah, fuck, like this could

1618
01:15:16,359 --> 01:15:18,159
be a great evil character called.

1619
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,039
Speaker 1: Again my new hope remake pick pitch, you know, just

1620
01:15:21,039 --> 01:15:25,680
just pick up and for threat. It's like she's because

1621
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,039
like okay, can't you start and that actress passed away?

1622
01:15:28,119 --> 01:15:29,720
Put them put her on that slot, like you know,

1623
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,159
like I would. I'm somehow this show has made not

1624
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:36,560
oppose the idea of like, yeah, we can remake Star Wars.

1625
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,279
It's fine. The rich will always be there, right, but

1626
01:15:39,399 --> 01:15:41,239
only with the gal Roys or maybe some other people.

1627
01:15:41,319 --> 01:15:44,560
But we taught you brought her up so with a

1628
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,279
probably good place to talk about her now because she's

1629
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:47,880
not too much all she has a big moment, so

1630
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,119
bis not the role we thought she was gonna go.

1631
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:55,119
We thought she'd be really back on the missions, not

1632
01:15:55,359 --> 01:15:57,039
like I'm sure she's doing some stuff. It seems like

1633
01:15:57,039 --> 01:15:59,920
she's way more just stay at home, stay at the avan.

1634
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:02,399
We thought the drugs could be her downfall and more

1635
01:16:02,399 --> 01:16:05,159
of a situation that wasn't says again where we talk

1636
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:07,520
about man, if this would have been multiple seasons like

1637
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,319
it was planned, I think that's something they would have

1638
01:16:09,359 --> 01:16:11,199
dived into more. But we didn't get that. She seems

1639
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:14,039
like she's completely clean and that kill from last week

1640
01:16:14,119 --> 01:16:17,880
saved her. And then like, I don't think he's gonna die.

1641
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,880
We kind of thought, Okay, she's gonna maybe not at kidnapp,

1642
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,560
but we thought, okay, she's like a gone or maybe

1643
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,680
not these three episodes, but next week she's gonna for

1644
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,399
sure die. That moves and or forward and I don't

1645
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,039
think that's gonna happen. And I am very curious because

1646
01:16:31,399 --> 01:16:33,319
they I know next week is like leads up right

1647
01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:36,560
to rogue one, but I'm kind of hoping Episode twelve

1648
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,680
ends and then they do another time skip and we

1649
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,079
see a couple of these characters after Return of the Jedi.

1650
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:47,520
I know, or after even Rogue one, like with Bicks

1651
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,000
finding out that like someone because that guy I can't

1652
01:16:51,039 --> 01:16:52,600
remember his name, but he's a British guy. He's in

1653
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,880
Rogue one. He's at the Avon base like something like that,

1654
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,880
like her meeting that guy, and you know, whether she

1655
01:17:00,119 --> 01:17:02,720
was back to Yahn like someone informing her that and

1656
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,079
or said like I feel like with her speech and

1657
01:17:05,119 --> 01:17:08,239
it's all very good. I buy the reason. There's a

1658
01:17:08,319 --> 01:17:11,119
very similar Batman run where Batman and cat Women are

1659
01:17:11,119 --> 01:17:13,239
getting married and cat Woman leaves Batman alter for the

1660
01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:14,960
same reason of like, if you get married to me,

1661
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,560
you're gonna lose like Ofthenm's gonna lose you. So I

1662
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,960
can't do that. So I got that that was all fine.

1663
01:17:20,199 --> 01:17:22,079
But the way she was talking of like, oh, when

1664
01:17:22,079 --> 01:17:24,520
this is all over, we'll meet again and we'll live

1665
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,680
the way we want to. It'll feel kind of weird

1666
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,640
if we never see Bicks again, you know. So I

1667
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,479
kind of hope there is kind of like an epilogue

1668
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,000
to Rogue one, like we kind of get like a

1669
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:34,279
mini sequel to Rogue one where we see a few

1670
01:17:34,359 --> 01:17:37,439
characters react to the situation. Hell, maybe that's where Deirja,

1671
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,520
you know lives, you could get that, that's my head.

1672
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,159
Speaker 2: I get the comic book, Well, don't.

1673
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,199
Speaker 1: Want that because they'll just wreckon it in a fucking

1674
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:46,760
five years from now, So I don't want that. So

1675
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,680
I hope it's in the show that we get an

1676
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,800
epilogue to Rogue one, but I'm not confident it's gonna happen,

1677
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,039
and they might just leave it like this where it's

1678
01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:57,079
you know, oh, like I hope we meet one day.

1679
01:17:57,079 --> 01:17:58,920
It's just like a tragic thing. But even then I

1680
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,880
want to see, like Andrea Drona like act out that

1681
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,600
news of finding about and or dying, you know, like

1682
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,479
there's some want.

1683
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 3: So she's not gonna reach out until after everything is over, right,

1684
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,520
So when everything is ended and she hears, I mean

1685
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,760
when everything is over, I'm not gonna say Return of

1686
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,520
the Jedi, like if we're talking like movie canon, it'll

1687
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,520
be the Battle of Jakou, which is a few years later.

1688
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,079
So this is like years later after Turn of the Jedi.

1689
01:18:23,079 --> 01:18:25,960
The Empire's finally gone. She's gonna go to Yavin Four

1690
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:27,760
and be like, oh, there's nobody here.

1691
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,079
Speaker 1: Well that's Paul for I don't know if she'll go there.

1692
01:18:31,159 --> 01:18:34,000
That's why my pitches you set after Rogue one where

1693
01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:36,199
she somehow meets up with a character that could inform

1694
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:38,439
her about and or right, because like, I'm sure there's

1695
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,720
not a newscaster being like in generous and and or

1696
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,920
we're on the beach when it was exploded, like not that,

1697
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,119
but someone would say, hey, he went on that mission.

1698
01:18:45,159 --> 01:18:46,039
He didn't make it back.

1699
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 3: You know. Maybe, But it's tricky because I feel like

1700
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,279
the amount of losses they experienced there is a lot.

1701
01:18:52,319 --> 01:18:54,880
So they're probably doing like roll call trying to figure

1702
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,520
out who died. And I have to remember too, this

1703
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,199
is like only like a few days before they launch

1704
01:18:59,239 --> 01:19:01,359
another counter so on the Death Star, So it's like,

1705
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:03,279
holy fuck, they got a lot. Then they got to evacuate,

1706
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:05,279
then they gotta get move into haw So.

1707
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:06,399
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on.

1708
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 3: If she was just pop up, I don't know who

1709
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:09,880
would have that detail.

1710
01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's why the British guy thought, I don't

1711
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,600
know his name, but he's the guy he was in

1712
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,079
Rogue war Raven. Yeah, like that's I thought he might

1713
01:19:18,119 --> 01:19:21,239
be the appropriate character to connect those dots. And again,

1714
01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:22,920
not even if she goes yeah four I'm not sure. Like,

1715
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:29,119
let's say there's another like mission situation where someone's and

1716
01:19:29,159 --> 01:19:31,760
that's what I mean. It is like a tough connection,

1717
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,880
and that's why I'm leaning towards we're not gonna get it,

1718
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,319
They're just gonna leave it that way. But I want

1719
01:19:36,359 --> 01:19:39,600
the scene wherever is. I want her finding out. So

1720
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,359
that's where it's like I want it, But I don't

1721
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:42,760
know if the show can do because I just don't

1722
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:45,560
I don't see them going past the Battle of Jaku

1723
01:19:46,279 --> 01:19:48,720
and then like giving us that, Like I just I

1724
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,720
don't know if the Gilroy's are interested in in like

1725
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,880
that type of stuff. Like I don't know, maybe I'm wrong,

1726
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,199
But what do you think? Do you think this is

1727
01:19:57,199 --> 01:19:58,800
the last of BIGS or do you think we get

1728
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,840
some sort of epilogue sort of moment.

1729
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:02,159
Speaker 3: Hmmm.

1730
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 2: I would want an epilogue, but I think it's more

1731
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,199
likely that we'll just never see her again. And uh,

1732
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,399
it's it's unfortunate just because I don't know. I like

1733
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:17,479
that actress, like the character, like the role. But I

1734
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,840
feel like already a couple of times in the show,

1735
01:20:20,119 --> 01:20:23,439
we've we've had some things kind of like well, I

1736
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:25,239
guess we did get a little bit of a follow

1737
01:20:25,279 --> 01:20:27,680
up on the take Hoolma event, but like still it's

1738
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,319
it's really quick, Like it's not like what did you

1739
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:32,119
do with take Holma? It's like, yeah, you handled that

1740
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:36,680
really quickly. Uh So, I I think just throughout the

1741
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,520
show they've done a few times of not feeling the

1742
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,359
need to even answer certain things like it happened, and

1743
01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:45,000
that's just that, like are we ever going to see

1744
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,840
B two again? Like he's probably never gonna be able

1745
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:53,279
to see Yeah, exactly. So it's just they already in

1746
01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:55,159
the season alone, like they've they've had a couple of

1747
01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:57,439
things Andy serkis, we're never going to find out what

1748
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:58,000
happened to that.

1749
01:20:58,119 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: Well that's good. I don't want that that should be

1750
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:00,520
left over.

1751
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,399
Speaker 2: But like it's just a pattern of of them. I

1752
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:07,199
didn't realize he has a little mirror back there. We

1753
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:09,000
can just see what he's doing in his reflection.

1754
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: It off you see, we gotta fire off the podcast

1755
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,800
because you two sees his cock like none of that,

1756
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:22,000
none of that. But yeah, I know you're right. I said,

1757
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,520
I think you're right because they've done that few few

1758
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,239
times and that's and that's where someone might be fine

1759
01:21:27,239 --> 01:21:30,319
with that because the circus one, I'm in that camp

1760
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:32,000
of I don't ever know. To me, that would ruin

1761
01:21:32,039 --> 01:21:34,119
it if you just pops up before like and or

1762
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,840
I like, I don't have.

1763
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 2: Found this guy's cook.

1764
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:51,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, and you smoke, but yeah, I'll know

1765
01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:53,159
you get to bust out again, probably after this time.

1766
01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:56,439
But yeah, and that's where I get that. I wonder

1767
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,600
how some people feel because like the other situation you

1768
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,119
could have had with bics of like her, just I

1769
01:22:03,159 --> 01:22:04,840
guarantee that some people. And I don't even know if

1770
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,079
I'm not opposed this of her just saying like you

1771
01:22:07,119 --> 01:22:10,039
can go, but I'm fucking staying, like if you feel

1772
01:22:10,039 --> 01:22:12,520
like you're done and you're retired from the mission. And

1773
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,760
I was kind of hoping it was that, because again,

1774
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,960
it felt weird that she was. We never really got

1775
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,760
her back in action. You know, I thought the show

1776
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,800
was kind of leading towards that, and I'm finally going

1777
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,319
a different rout, but I felt like the show, especially

1778
01:22:23,399 --> 01:22:25,079
last week, were killing that guy and then blowing up

1779
01:22:25,119 --> 01:22:27,920
that bass. Was like, Okay, she's even if it's drug

1780
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,840
fueled yo perk bix, She's back for a little bit.

1781
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,960
But no, she said she was like a stay at

1782
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,680
home andre Royf as far as we know, wasn't talked

1783
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,960
about any missions. So but I thought she was gonna

1784
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,560
say like, hey, if you're done, that's cool, but I'm

1785
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,720
not done and you can't make me go. And and

1786
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,000
you know, so I wonder I'll see if they follow up.

1787
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,399
But I you know, like, I still think the better

1788
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,479
result could have been her dying on a mission. But

1789
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,479
I get that idea of, you know, and Or was

1790
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,560
just done that because again, he's seen a lot of shit,

1791
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,119
but that massacre, and I get that idea of that's

1792
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:00,600
also a noble sacrifice of like this person new love,

1793
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,720
you're just gonna outright lead the leave them until this

1794
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,279
thing is done. When it's just like yeah, very high probability,

1795
01:23:08,039 --> 01:23:10,600
you're never gonna see them again in this situation, right

1796
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,720
like you just like your man was just.

1797
01:23:13,319 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 2: Some rebellions over, I'll see you again, I'll come see you.

1798
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:17,720
It's like, okay, buddy, Like.

1799
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, she actually just was done with it and just

1800
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,640
wanted to break up bandor And that was like the perfect.

1801
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 2: About that sticks Now you know she's just doing the

1802
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,199
hard stuff.

1803
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's that person that would break up you'd be like, well,

1804
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,000
if it's meant to be, will find each other again.

1805
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,920
It's like, no, that's not a real fucking thing, Like,

1806
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:34,720
don't say that, Like that's what she did there.

1807
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 3: It's like it's going to go go hook up with Luthen.

1808
01:23:39,039 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: Oh god, Yeah, I can't come to the island for

1809
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:43,720
I've needed other places.

1810
01:23:44,319 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I'm kind of torn on how that

1811
01:23:50,039 --> 01:23:53,760
ended because in one hand, like it was a beautiful scene.

1812
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:58,319
I think it was really heart wrenching. It's also just

1813
01:23:58,359 --> 01:24:00,399
a powerful moment, you know, when he gets off the

1814
01:24:00,399 --> 01:24:02,239
mission and it's just he went through so much and

1815
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,520
there there's so much silence of like her not saying anything,

1816
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,000
but like that like so much just said in the silence.

1817
01:24:08,039 --> 01:24:10,479
I feel. I just love the moment when he's like

1818
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,000
like why an't you say anything? It's like, just drink

1819
01:24:12,039 --> 01:24:14,039
your tea. I'm just listening. It's fine. Like I just

1820
01:24:14,079 --> 01:24:19,039
think that she played that so well. It's like it's

1821
01:24:19,079 --> 01:24:20,800
like you're getting ready to like say goodbye to someone

1822
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:22,239
that you're like pulling the plug on, Like it just

1823
01:24:22,319 --> 01:24:24,680
it was just like one of those moments. So I

1824
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,199
think it's a really powerful scene. But I'm with you,

1825
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:30,880
I think, like, well, if she's still part of the rebellion,

1826
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,720
like why would she just leave? Like maybe I guess

1827
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,600
she's doing stuff for the rebellion elsewhere. But I also

1828
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,640
think that they could have just been on the rebellion together,

1829
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,079
doing missions together. But I also understand that maybe that

1830
01:24:43,159 --> 01:24:46,600
makes the mission a little bit compromised because in that situation,

1831
01:24:47,159 --> 01:24:50,840
Cassie would probably focus more on bicks, like saving bicks

1832
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,359
than the like the rebellion mission. So I totally get that,

1833
01:24:54,399 --> 01:24:58,279
and I totally understand like the difficult decision of her

1834
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,600
understanding that the rebellion needs him, Like I love that

1835
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:06,600
scene between Vell and Bix of just like like Cassian

1836
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,760
is a leader, like people need him, and then like

1837
01:25:10,039 --> 01:25:12,880
Bis totally understanding that. So yeah, I'm a little bit

1838
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,119
fifty to fifty on it because I think in a

1839
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:17,079
perfect world, like they would have just been on the

1840
01:25:17,079 --> 01:25:22,640
rebellion together. You know, why would Cassian not just fuck

1841
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,840
off and like go find Bis? You know, like I

1842
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,880
could also see the story going that route. But also

1843
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,840
him doing like good by her, like like honoring her

1844
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,079
wish is being a part of the rebellion, right, So

1845
01:25:33,119 --> 01:25:34,760
it's like if he truly loves her like he's going

1846
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,279
to be accepting this goal. So I don't know. I

1847
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,560
think it's really beautiful but tough at the same time.

1848
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,920
But it's it's a tricky situation, like it's not a

1849
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,520
win win scenario by any means. I can see by

1850
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,640
her staying that bringing up many different issues for just

1851
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,760
the success of the rebellion, which you know, they're getting

1852
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,119
an army, but at this stage it is still very

1853
01:25:56,239 --> 01:25:59,199
early and very fragile, like it could end very fast,

1854
01:25:59,279 --> 01:26:02,520
like if one Empire person finds out about Yavin like

1855
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,520
this whole like it it's over for you that that's

1856
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,279
our glider in the sky. They're gonna be seeing the

1857
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:12,359
the star destroyers just coming in. But yeah, no, it's

1858
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:13,319
it's beautiful scene.

1859
01:26:13,319 --> 01:26:17,600
Speaker 1: Though there there any more thoughts on Bicks.

1860
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:23,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, her her bounce and that's you know, that's

1861
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:27,159
that's interesting. Her logic behind it, I don't know what

1862
01:26:27,279 --> 01:26:29,680
she's thinking. She must know that Cassian is just gonna

1863
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,920
end up high probability of dying, which he does, so

1864
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,960
I don't know how on board I could really get

1865
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,760
on with that. But she understands his value to the

1866
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:42,520
rebellion and makes a play because he obviously doesn't see

1867
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,239
himself having both the rebellion and her it's one or

1868
01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:46,960
the other, and so she took that out of the equation.

1869
01:26:47,079 --> 01:26:51,000
So I can respect that and the motivation behind it her.

1870
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:52,800
And this is what I was alluding to in the

1871
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,439
non spoilers, her interest in the character who is the

1872
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,079
Force healer? I thought that was kind of neat and

1873
01:26:59,119 --> 01:27:01,560
it granted, there's lots of people out there that you know,

1874
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,159
they they're not Jedi or anything like that, they you know,

1875
01:27:04,279 --> 01:27:06,399
they have the Force. This is probably just some woman

1876
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,239
that you know, Order sixty six happen.

1877
01:27:09,079 --> 01:27:10,199
Speaker 2: Maybe she was finding.

1878
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: Say force is one with me and one with the Force.

1879
01:27:13,039 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm one with a force.

1880
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,279
Speaker 1: Say that again, she's one of those force users.

1881
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,279
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he has He doesn't have any.

1882
01:27:23,319 --> 01:27:25,279
He doesn't have any of the Force. I don't think

1883
01:27:25,319 --> 01:27:27,319
in him, not that I've seen with this character. He's

1884
01:27:27,319 --> 01:27:30,479
just someone who worships the you know, the Guardians, one

1885
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,079
of the Guardians of the Wills. That's one of the

1886
01:27:32,079 --> 01:27:33,319
George Lucas's creations.

1887
01:27:33,359 --> 01:27:36,520
Speaker 1: I think with the amount he does being blind like that,

1888
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,319
he has some sense of the Force.

1889
01:27:38,359 --> 01:27:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, oh, no, they they always has all ears,

1890
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:46,000
all ears. Some they emphasize that in Rogue one too,

1891
01:27:46,039 --> 01:27:47,359
it's all ears, all ears.

1892
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: That's a cover that's for so people won't be like

1893
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,640
the Force, like even Anders like you're fucking crazy, Bis,

1894
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,000
get this bitch away from me, like he's like so

1895
01:27:55,039 --> 01:27:57,520
opposed to like just tear out for a second, like

1896
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,000
and just shut me up like that.

1897
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:01,199
Speaker 2: I really like that too.

1898
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:05,520
Speaker 3: I think that's fantastic too, because again it's like with

1899
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,079
Han Solo, it's everyone that just thinks, oh there's you know,

1900
01:28:08,119 --> 01:28:12,800
it's just it is just a myth, like no one

1901
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,000
all these people like and Or and and Han Solo

1902
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,760
and now, they were all just kids when over sixty

1903
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,720
six happened, so they didn't have any kind of recollection

1904
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,159
this occurred. And even then when you see with Mando

1905
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,520
when he was just a kid throughout the Clone Wars,

1906
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,439
they didn't even have any interaction with Jedi, so they

1907
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,359
don't they don't know what things were like back then.

1908
01:28:30,399 --> 01:28:32,520
It's a whole new generation and I like that where

1909
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,479
Casie' is like, oh, it's just it's bullshit whatnot. It's

1910
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:40,720
it's not anything that's based in reality or foundation and

1911
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,720
I think at the same time, when you're watching this

1912
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,079
show in its entirety, you can kind of you can

1913
01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:47,239
detach and you can forget that this is the same

1914
01:28:47,359 --> 01:28:50,159
universe that Jedi exists. This is the same universe that

1915
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,800
holy shit, we had a clone army and back to

1916
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,880
tanks and all that kind of stuff. And the Rebellion

1917
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:56,960
obviously doesn't have back to tanks yet they get them

1918
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,199
at Hath as we've seen, but here it's just resorting.

1919
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,119
Speaker 2: To force healing.

1920
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 3: But it's that same kind of crazy realization too, which

1921
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,359
we'll talk more about it with Mon Mathma's speech, where

1922
01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:13,399
you're just you're it's just a political gathering. They're addressing

1923
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,720
things just like you would hear and you know, in

1924
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,920
our branch of government, whatever you want to call it,

1925
01:29:18,079 --> 01:29:20,079
and it just seems very very normal while it is

1926
01:29:20,119 --> 01:29:22,439
Star Wars esque. But at the same time, if you

1927
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,960
remind yourself, like and holy fuck, at the root of

1928
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,560
the Gorman massacre, at the root of just what Mathma's

1929
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,000
calling out here is this evil is there's this fucking

1930
01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:35,560
old guy that won, he eliminated his competition, the Jedi,

1931
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,640
the enemy, and he's just been sitting out of these

1932
01:29:39,039 --> 01:29:42,119
Senate meetings, and he's just been sitting in his fucking

1933
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:46,720
pyramid on course on opening up Sith holocrons and making

1934
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,079
all these crazy fucking plans and creating like clones of himself,

1935
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:52,079
creating a fleet of starter stores that can blow up

1936
01:29:52,079 --> 01:29:55,439
planets on exigll. Like, this fucker is just going crazy

1937
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,760
and no one has any idea about how fucking evil

1938
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,439
he is, that he's just this Sith Force user. And

1939
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,319
that's inclosing on this. One of my favorite lions. It's

1940
01:30:06,359 --> 01:30:09,319
from the campaign of Star Wars Battlefront two, is when

1941
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,000
you're playing as Luke and you go to this You're

1942
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,439
going to this planet to go to a vault that

1943
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,760
the Emperor has, and at the same time, one of

1944
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,600
these Imperial Special Forces units, this guy is there and

1945
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,920
he has to go and destroy the vault. And this

1946
01:30:23,039 --> 01:30:26,640
is post Return of the Jedi. So when the guy's there,

1947
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,239
he's like you're he bumps into Luke, and Luke ends

1948
01:30:29,319 --> 01:30:31,880
up saving him from these aliens or whatever these creatures

1949
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,840
that are on the planet, and the Imperial's like, why

1950
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:35,520
would you save me? And Luke's like, well, because you

1951
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:37,239
know you're not a threat to me, and you asked

1952
01:30:37,239 --> 01:30:39,920
and so I wanted to help you, and so they

1953
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,840
form an uneasy alliance at first, and when they get

1954
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,479
to the vault, Uh, it's just eerie because he's like,

1955
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,439
you know, you're nothing like I ever. I thought I've

1956
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,800
heard stories of the Jedi stories of you guys, but like,

1957
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,600
you're not what I thought you were.

1958
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 2: But at the same time, why would the cuts him down?

1959
01:30:58,239 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 1: You're right, we're not.

1960
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 3: When they get to the vault door, Luke opens it

1961
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,159
with the Force, and the troopers like, well, why would

1962
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:08,800
the Emperor have a vault door that could only be

1963
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,159
opened with the Force, And then Luke's like, well, as

1964
01:31:11,159 --> 01:31:12,880
a kid, I'm telling you that you were afraid of

1965
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,479
the wrong thing. It's like, holy fuck, Like just you

1966
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,359
get these chills because it's the Emperor.

1967
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:24,560
Speaker 1: Afraid of me. Flash the last Jedies. I'm fucking about

1968
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:29,720
to strike down a fourteen year old Ben. Yeah, and

1969
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,079
then you got on the other side of the coin,

1970
01:31:31,159 --> 01:31:33,119
all these fucking maskers, and you know, it's just sitting

1971
01:31:33,159 --> 01:31:36,399
on some planet, diddling himself doing nothing. You know, it's great,

1972
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,239
him and Obi Wan just fucking cowards and all those

1973
01:31:39,279 --> 01:31:42,439
other Jedis out there. But you know, I digress lots

1974
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,720
of them. Yeah, right, let's take an ad break, and

1975
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,000
then Kirklin's gonna tell us the next best thing. We

1976
01:31:49,079 --> 01:31:51,479
were back, and we're back.

1977
01:31:52,119 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 2: The next best thing is what Taylor was already talking about.

1978
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,439
But I'd like this this world that we're in where

1979
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:01,840
jedis aren't like super relevant or like just prevalent. It's

1980
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,239
basically a myth. And I like just the spooky, like

1981
01:32:05,279 --> 01:32:10,520
the spookiness of these force healers right, and like just

1982
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:14,319
the disbelief right away that Cassian has. I just really

1983
01:32:14,359 --> 01:32:18,199
really love that sequence and just how she just walked

1984
01:32:18,359 --> 01:32:22,359
right for Cassian, He's like, what you do? Like it's

1985
01:32:22,359 --> 01:32:25,439
as if you're a fucking Montanas and like somebody gives

1986
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,720
you the person it's his birthday and they're coming around.

1987
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:29,439
You're like, what the fuck did you do? Are you

1988
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,760
kidding me? But no, I just thought that was a

1989
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,479
really really cool sequence, and then you know, she she

1990
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,239
healed him to an extent he's able to move that

1991
01:32:38,279 --> 01:32:43,199
shoulder around a little bit after that point. Transitioning from

1992
01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:45,720
that the other sequence I wanted to shout out that

1993
01:32:46,319 --> 01:32:49,000
really made me laugh. It's it's to my name. But

1994
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:54,000
when they're getting mon moth out there and a couple

1995
01:32:54,000 --> 01:33:00,199
of times in episode ten no not ten nine. I

1996
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,039
feel like there's just they're really good at like thinking

1997
01:33:03,079 --> 01:33:05,359
on their toes in these high stress environments. I think

1998
01:33:05,359 --> 01:33:07,760
that's a good thing. That sorry a good trait on

1999
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,079
what makes Cassie and just so good on these missions.

2000
01:33:10,079 --> 01:33:12,159
He can just you just go with the flow and

2001
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:14,760
and just make something quick, Like when they're going out

2002
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,760
to the driver, can we trust him? No, he's an

2003
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,520
icy spy. He's like what's his name, whatever the fuck

2004
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,359
he calls him. It's like, hey, gay, little little guy,

2005
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,399
Hey little guy, just getting his attention, just like kind

2006
01:33:25,399 --> 01:33:26,880
of throw him off guard, and then they just shoot

2007
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,760
him right away. It's just like, oh, well that worked.

2008
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:34,159
And then oh yeah, it's like she's a rebel spy

2009
01:33:34,319 --> 01:33:36,520
and like everyone just kind of like like doesn't know

2010
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,279
what to do. And then that gives Cassie in like

2011
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:39,479
a moment to just.

2012
01:33:40,079 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 1: I get why she did that because mom wasn't going

2013
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,399
with her, but just whip up that pistol man. That

2014
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,319
was a full play. And at least that guy that

2015
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,399
on fire kind of I don't say redeemed himself because

2016
01:33:51,399 --> 01:33:52,960
I was on his side. Right, he was spying for

2017
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:54,720
the best. He's working for Luthen.

2018
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,079
Speaker 2: But like lu said, he's like, I shouldn't have told

2019
01:33:58,079 --> 01:34:01,920
her about her skin, Like he knew I probably should

2020
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:02,560
have not told her.

2021
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because even when he leaves, she's like, oh,

2022
01:34:06,199 --> 01:34:08,880
what's happening with mom? He's like, well, he just like

2023
01:34:09,079 --> 01:34:11,279
she said some lines like ask Luthen about it, pretty

2024
01:34:11,319 --> 01:34:13,399
much just been like, yeah, he fucking blew my cover

2025
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:18,840
and everything, which again, like I get why man is mad.

2026
01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:20,920
Luthen be goause all things he is done. We brought

2027
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,119
up again with the banker, right, that came back from

2028
01:34:23,279 --> 01:34:24,920
the first arc of this thing. I was like, hey,

2029
01:34:25,039 --> 01:34:27,560
my childhood friend. But at the same time, for the

2030
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,279
most time, Luthen is right. Of course he does things

2031
01:34:30,359 --> 01:34:32,439
in some dark and shadies way. But yeah, that's why

2032
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:34,640
it's my name. I love that of her being like, oh,

2033
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,560
so I can only trust you. He's like, well, I'm

2034
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,239
the one you can trust tonight. So it's just like

2035
01:34:38,319 --> 01:34:40,199
he's not saying like, oh, there's not no one else

2036
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:43,920
out there, but tonight everybody didn't even bail indirectly, right,

2037
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,640
he doesn't know he's giving her fucking spoiled like help us, like,

2038
01:34:48,279 --> 01:34:52,479
Luthen's the only one that can, really you can even

2039
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,319
in that moment, she's one hundred percent sure, right, But

2040
01:34:55,399 --> 01:34:58,479
he hasn't traded wrong yet. He's done some shady things,

2041
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,560
some shitty things, the same thing like and I, you know,

2042
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,279
don't think it's a bad thing. The second the banker

2043
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,159
was maybe like kind of maybe blackmail or just was

2044
01:35:05,279 --> 01:35:07,560
speaking at attorney's like, yeah, let's just cut this. He

2045
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,319
takes no risks, right, He is in a situation where

2046
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,279
even if someone could be redeemed, he might not give

2047
01:35:13,319 --> 01:35:15,079
them the chance. And maybe there's a chance that banker

2048
01:35:15,079 --> 01:35:16,479
could have been talked to and there could have been

2049
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:17,800
a way to like get him back in your side.

2050
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,640
But could it also just blue man's cover and everybody's cover.

2051
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,159
Same thing with She even said that to him, like

2052
01:35:24,239 --> 01:35:26,479
are you worried about me or me getting arrested? And

2053
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,279
it's a bit of both, but Luthern is probably more

2054
01:35:28,279 --> 01:35:30,840
about getting worried about her get arrested because it could

2055
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,920
be over. They could use those torture devices and they

2056
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,840
could get everything from her. Right, And even seeing Luthen

2057
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:39,520
out and about without his wig was like kind of

2058
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,000
jarring around that situation right, because he's like, it does

2059
01:35:43,039 --> 01:35:46,199
feel like he and that's where I'm I thought he

2060
01:35:46,319 --> 01:35:49,720
might bite it this arc, to be honest, because the

2061
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,479
way he was talking, it just it does feel like

2062
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,399
he is at his wits end here. So I'm very

2063
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,239
curious when we pick up next week. I don't think

2064
01:35:57,279 --> 01:35:59,079
we would pick up with him and like he's dead,

2065
01:35:59,399 --> 01:36:01,279
but like, you know, know with this show, that could

2066
01:36:01,319 --> 01:36:04,000
be like an exciting incident, but I feel like it's

2067
01:36:04,119 --> 01:36:06,920
coming and it just feels like he's There's only so

2068
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,640
much more he can do now, even bail right, Like

2069
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,520
he's saying like, oh, give me a year, which obviously

2070
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:14,399
we uh, he don't get that year and stuff, and

2071
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,000
you know, I give him crap. I love Jimmy Smith.

2072
01:36:17,079 --> 01:36:20,159
I thought Benijamin Bratt for the type the role he

2073
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:22,760
was in here was really good. Of course, I do

2074
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,479
wish it was Smith's because Smith's is one of my

2075
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,319
favorite like underrated actors, but I thought it was good.

2076
01:36:27,359 --> 01:36:30,640
And yeah, we haven't talked about it, but Mom's speech

2077
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,600
was ten to ten. Genevie Riley is always fantastic, same

2078
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,680
thing you watch the Star Wars trilogy. Mom off was

2079
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,560
not really into that much you if she is, she's like,

2080
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:44,039
you know, very stereotypical, like I'm the leader of the rebellion.

2081
01:36:44,119 --> 01:36:46,520
I'm hoping, like it's just all right. I would take

2082
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,800
a fucking Star Wars four in a six remake where

2083
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,800
mom Moth was like a legit supporting character, you know,

2084
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,800
cause it's kind of sad, like I know you haven't

2085
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,359
seen it, Kirkland, And like, again, I like the show enough,

2086
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,600
but when I see like her pop up in a Soka,

2087
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,159
it's like, yeah, fine, but it's giving like a thespian

2088
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,520
fucking like the bad snl skit where it's like, oh yeah,

2089
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,520
like they don't use mom off on the same in

2090
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,279
this show. You know, this show, this is like some

2091
01:37:10,359 --> 01:37:13,880
Emmy Award winning top tier actress stuff, and it's like, man,

2092
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,680
we're never gonna get to see this again from her,

2093
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,800
and it's just it's such a shame, you know.

2094
01:37:18,039 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 3: So she it would have been nice if they didn't

2095
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,520
act for scenes in Revenge of the Seth because I

2096
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,720
liked some of her scenes in those deleted deleted shots.

2097
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:30,039
Speaker 1: Yeah I do too, but still never had that that

2098
01:37:30,119 --> 01:37:32,159
much screen time, right, Like I'd like her to be

2099
01:37:32,279 --> 01:37:35,119
like this show where it's like another adventurer. There's many

2100
01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:37,720
characters that do survive or could survive. I'd like to

2101
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,840
see more adventures of and I think this is just

2102
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,319
it for the and Or crew. But yeah, that speech

2103
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:46,640
was fantastic about the most dangerous thing is when you

2104
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,920
don't get to know the truth of the situation, when

2105
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,000
the truth is being withheld from you. And when she

2106
01:37:51,239 --> 01:37:54,760
says the evil that's rising and he is like Emperor

2107
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:58,840
Palpatine and they just cut the man. Great stuff. I

2108
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,560
knew it was gonna be the same thing. I knew, like, Okay,

2109
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:02,560
she's gonna make the speech to start, I knew exactly

2110
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,720
where it was going. Andre was gonna get her out

2111
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,960
of there, like be for me. I tell you, Okay,

2112
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,640
what's gonna happen. But it felt like you brought the driver,

2113
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:11,640
but her getting or him getting her out of there,

2114
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,439
the jacket, the shooting, everything. It was got great bank heist,

2115
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,560
but it was a person heist. But yeah, this speech

2116
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,279
was great everything. No no ites. I hope Genevieve is

2117
01:38:20,279 --> 01:38:22,520
in a lot of next week's episodes because again, that's

2118
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,199
probably last time we're seeing her in this context. But yeah,

2119
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:27,920
never thought i'd love the mon Mothma character. But here

2120
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,399
I am and great stuff.

2121
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,279
Speaker 2: No, I'm right there with you. I think I think

2122
01:38:33,359 --> 01:38:36,279
we get like just more of her in like the

2123
01:38:36,279 --> 01:38:40,479
wedding episode. I can't remember exactly for the whole arc.

2124
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,800
She probably is more in this arc overall, but I

2125
01:38:45,079 --> 01:38:48,399
think even just in the like the small moments, like

2126
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,479
the scene between her and Luther and it's not really

2127
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:54,279
that long of a scene, but like just just all

2128
01:38:54,319 --> 01:38:56,920
of the range of emotions that she shows, like in

2129
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,039
her face let alone, with the things that she says,

2130
01:38:59,079 --> 01:39:01,960
and just the emotion of just like when she drops

2131
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:03,960
that line of like everything that's going on right now

2132
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,720
to think I'm like the most scared of you, like

2133
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,680
like the person it's supposed to be like my closest ally,

2134
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:11,079
Like it's just like that's like goosebumps in that in

2135
01:39:11,079 --> 01:39:15,960
that setting. So yeah, I thought all of the I mean, yeah,

2136
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,520
she's she's st here, you know, s plus here in

2137
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:23,039
this show, and there's so many like high caliber people

2138
01:39:23,079 --> 01:39:26,439
to praise, but I think she's just she's she's yeah,

2139
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,000
she's s plus. So I am gonna be sad if

2140
01:39:29,039 --> 01:39:31,560
we don't ever get to see her again beyond next

2141
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,960
week because she's yeah, like you said, like I never

2142
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,880
would have thought I would be a mon matha like

2143
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:41,319
like huge fan after and or but here we are.

2144
01:39:43,399 --> 01:39:46,960
What else was I gonna go on there? Yeah? Oh yeah,

2145
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:48,640
that's what I was gonna say. Is is just the

2146
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,199
idea of like I know everything that's gonna be happening,

2147
01:39:51,279 --> 01:39:54,399
Like at the start of I think it was of

2148
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,239
episode nine, when I like realize that, like, okay, Cassie's

2149
01:39:57,239 --> 01:39:59,600
going on this mission, and then like they don't say

2150
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,760
exactly like you're gonna go pick up Monmothma and get

2151
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,159
her out of after she does her speech, but it's

2152
01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:07,199
just like this is her mission. It doesn't seem like

2153
01:40:07,239 --> 01:40:10,680
everything's being revealed until like they're kind of in that situation,

2154
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,039
like even when he's with Clea right, like they don't

2155
01:40:13,079 --> 01:40:15,319
say exactly what's happening, but I'm like, Okay, yeah, this

2156
01:40:15,359 --> 01:40:17,319
is gonna be it. This is when we finally get

2157
01:40:17,359 --> 01:40:20,840
Cassie and and Mon like together in the same setting.

2158
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,880
And then when he's talking to Luthen and we're kind

2159
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,399
of getting going on the mission, it's like, Okay, I

2160
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,399
kind of know everything's gonna happen, Like she's gonna get her,

2161
01:40:28,199 --> 01:40:31,199
She's gonna get her speech off. Casiane's gonna get her

2162
01:40:31,199 --> 01:40:33,920
out of there. Like I know, these people survive this event,

2163
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:37,399
but still it's like, Okay, now let's actually see how

2164
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,319
this play goes. It's like it's like a play of

2165
01:40:40,319 --> 01:40:44,720
whatever Macbeth. You know, I don't know that well, but

2166
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,560
for someone that would note you know, the main hitting point.

2167
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,680
But you're seeing the performance. Yeah, you know, I'm expecting

2168
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,479
Leo with a gun and that.

2169
01:40:53,399 --> 01:40:56,520
Speaker 1: Version one one fuck no.

2170
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,239
Speaker 2: Thumbs up, good stuff.

2171
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, a Taylor, are you good there?

2172
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 3: Just the speech was chills my god, just everything that

2173
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,159
she was saying and that music kicks in and.

2174
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was watching. He was watching the broadcast. He's

2175
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:23,920
always watching. That's terrifying, dude. Yeah, I know, I think

2176
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:24,760
that was just it was.

2177
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 3: It was fantastic, And I'm sure yeah, he wherever he

2178
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,840
is he's he's watching it. He's probably just freaking the

2179
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:35,359
funk out thinking like shut it down, like like that

2180
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:36,359
scene with with.

2181
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 1: That was that was actually the guy that's in the

2182
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,920
monor room when he's like shut the speech down. And

2183
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,279
I loved those two little plants when he got there

2184
01:41:52,279 --> 01:41:55,000
and like why the door it should lock? All they're like,

2185
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:56,880
oh well it's actually always supposed to lock. It was

2186
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,840
just broken, Like how did they get fixed? Oh well

2187
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:00,760
we use the key card. We'll give me the key card.

2188
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,239
Oh well it's still in uh like re cut whatever

2189
01:42:03,399 --> 01:42:07,319
like dignostics or whatever. Just this fucking high like worst

2190
01:42:07,399 --> 01:42:10,439
day of his job ever. And then they just look

2191
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,520
as smile at each other's like yeah, that's great. You

2192
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,560
know again you can see that rebellion building because now

2193
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:16,520
you're trying to see more people spread throughout that are

2194
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,079
in on the against the emperor side where you know,

2195
01:42:19,159 --> 01:42:21,880
start and or it's like luthen In like a dozen

2196
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,880
other people. Now it's like, okay, there's people spread throughout

2197
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,119
where you don't got the empire numbers, but you can

2198
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:28,880
actually have some trusted people.

2199
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,119
Speaker 2: So the guy that's like on, like the guy that's

2200
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:33,720
supposed to be in charge of I think that's going

2201
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,439
on when he gets that call at the end, it's

2202
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,680
like a colonel don't remember, oh Colonel Laren, Yeah he

2203
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,039
saw the season one. Man, he's sweating bullets like like

2204
01:42:42,159 --> 01:42:44,279
to your point, try like he that's the worst day ever.

2205
01:42:44,359 --> 01:42:46,960
It's like everything went wrong. I knew I wasn't supposed

2206
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,119
to let that air, and now my boss is fucking

2207
01:42:49,159 --> 01:42:51,520
calling me, getting ready to you know, I'm aa fucking

2208
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:52,960
kill you like that.

2209
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 3: That's gonna be happening for Colonel Laren is head of ISB,

2210
01:42:56,399 --> 01:42:58,760
so you don't don't want to find with him. He

2211
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,239
also served right under Anakin the Clone Wars, which is

2212
01:43:02,039 --> 01:43:04,600
just a little bit cool. I think out of all

2213
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,760
the characters in retrospect that would have really loved to

2214
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,920
have seen mon Mathma do this speech would have been Padme,

2215
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:11,760
because Padme is so politically passionate.

2216
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:13,119
Speaker 2: It would have been I think she.

2217
01:43:13,039 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 3: Would have she's, well, yeah, she's she's dead. But I

2218
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:16,840
think she would have been very proud because I mean

2219
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,279
when you see her in Revenge of the Sith and

2220
01:43:18,319 --> 01:43:21,479
she's just like she already is ten steps ahead of everyone.

2221
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,359
When Palpatine's like the first clact I got byre and

2222
01:43:24,399 --> 01:43:27,359
she everyone's clapping and she's like, this is how liberty dies.

2223
01:43:28,039 --> 01:43:30,399
Speaker 1: Bail, right, Bail was there too, He figured that out.

2224
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,039
Speaker 2: Bail, Well, Bail came in late. You know, he's but

2225
01:43:35,399 --> 01:43:36,079
he came late.

2226
01:43:36,119 --> 01:43:38,159
Speaker 1: But that was also the same dude, like flying up

2227
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:41,439
to the Jedi count like Temples was getting fucking burned down,

2228
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:43,800
which as I watched it, I never understood why they

2229
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,119
never actually killed Bail because as they're killing that young jungling,

2230
01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:49,920
he's like no, like he shows his full hand, He's

2231
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,560
fully like not with the Empire, right, I think they.

2232
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 3: Would have well, again, they would have detained them. Their

2233
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,520
main thing is they're killing Jedi. Anyone else is like okay,

2234
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,199
like you're going to be detained and senators and whatnot.

2235
01:44:01,239 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: That's that's a different story, different stories.

2236
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,199
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to discount Padme for sure, But like

2237
01:44:06,279 --> 01:44:09,479
Baial's Bail was, who are the people that decide where

2238
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,680
Luke and Lea goo it's yodobi Wan and Bail, right,

2239
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,520
Like Baal's all over the end of Seth like he

2240
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,640
was he he was on the squad there, he helped

2241
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,159
the cover up, and he's in obi Wan, he's in

2242
01:44:19,239 --> 01:44:20,800
rogue one. He's here again.

2243
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,319
Speaker 3: Again without him his help here. I mean then she

2244
01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:24,680
didn't want had a speech, so.

2245
01:44:26,039 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 1: You know, so obviously helps raise Princess Leah too, one

2246
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,479
of the biggest things there, and that helps later on.

2247
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 2: So so we're not gonna get her in the show

2248
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,479
or anything like that. But like what is going on

2249
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:39,600
with Lea right now, like she's just so not not

2250
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,720
knowing that the rebellions even going on. No, she knows.

2251
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:46,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, again, this is one of those rebel things

2252
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,920
we're in in Star Wars rebels, Like she's she's playing

2253
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:54,239
the part of being a an imperial representative by being

2254
01:44:54,359 --> 01:44:58,239
Princess of Alderon, but on the down low, she's running

2255
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,840
like smuggling missions and whatnot and trying like resupplyed refot

2256
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:06,279
to five republicans or rebellion cells before this has started.

2257
01:45:06,359 --> 01:45:09,560
So by the time like this gets to a new Hope,

2258
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,359
that's where you can see it, like they don't know.

2259
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:14,000
Lea is basically like bad, bad, But that's when she's

2260
01:45:14,159 --> 01:45:15,800
trying to pull off that thing like we're on a

2261
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,520
diplomatic mission to alder On or whatever, because she's playing

2262
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,960
that innocent card like oh, we're just we're not part

2263
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,439
of the rebellion, we're innocent. But it's all afront. She's

2264
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,520
actively engaging with the rebellion right now.

2265
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:31,560
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there you go, there you go, they'll do it.

2266
01:45:32,199 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think we'll see her here because I

2267
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,000
just don't think. I was wondering if he's going to

2268
01:45:36,079 --> 01:45:37,800
drop the word when he's like, I can't join you

2269
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:39,920
yet and everything, because there's you know, obviously he has

2270
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,640
a daughter, like Mon has a daughter, but like she's

2271
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:43,840
probably that daughter.

2272
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 2: No, she's long. That's another thing. I really thought we

2273
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,119
were going to be getting at least like an appearance

2274
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:52,279
of her at some point, but I don't think so. Now.

2275
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fin I thought even what they might do

2276
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,479
is when they're showing everybody watching the speech, I thought

2277
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:58,760
they're going to show her daughter watching the speech, whether

2278
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,479
it be her accepting or yet or just yeah or

2279
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,600
disgusted by it. Right. I thought we're gonna get that,

2280
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:06,439
But uh no, that's something again. Type of characters have

2281
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:10,000
given up a lot. She fucking it's awful. But she

2282
01:46:10,119 --> 01:46:12,920
used her own daughter as a tool to get in

2283
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,560
with that criminal so they could loan to her money

2284
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,760
so she could help fund the rebellion. You know, she

2285
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,199
literally had to use her daughter as a chess piece

2286
01:46:21,239 --> 01:46:24,720
to get there. You know, it's like, that's a fuck man,

2287
01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:29,800
that's a that's a that's a sad. No. Well, I

2288
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,840
think what I'm doing is I'm not gonna wait. I

2289
01:46:33,239 --> 01:46:34,760
would do that, but I'm not gonna wait to the

2290
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,960
wedding night to let my daughter know, Like, hey, if

2291
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:38,800
you want to walk away from this, I'd be like,

2292
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,880
you gotta early on be like we're like I feel

2293
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,680
like kind of like I just watch everyone. Bail kind

2294
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:47,520
of does that with Princess Leah of like kind of

2295
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,720
says like at times you're gonna have to just play

2296
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:53,279
it cool so then you can, you know, overcome those obstacles.

2297
01:46:53,279 --> 01:46:55,279
Like he doesn't call it the empire, but pretty much

2298
01:46:55,279 --> 01:46:58,239
like people that are of that elk. Bail was better

2299
01:46:58,279 --> 01:47:01,279
at that where look at what princess doing. She's playing along,

2300
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,439
but she knows, okay at the end, these are the

2301
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,000
bad guys, and Mom, that's was her mistakes. She could have.

2302
01:47:07,039 --> 01:47:09,199
Oh she's got a lot going on. I think she

2303
01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:12,119
didn't want to get that far, but I think, yes,

2304
01:47:12,199 --> 01:47:14,039
that's what i'd been taking the bail route, where you

2305
01:47:14,079 --> 01:47:16,399
got to let them in on the the ruse a

2306
01:47:16,399 --> 01:47:19,159
little bit, you know, because then you get brainwashed. Like

2307
01:47:19,199 --> 01:47:21,039
her daughter was right. She was happy to marry this

2308
01:47:21,119 --> 01:47:23,960
fucking crime lord's son and be okay. I then talk

2309
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,319
about generations and kids.

2310
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 2: You know, except for life. You know, she's got that

2311
01:47:29,039 --> 01:47:30,199
generational wealth.

2312
01:47:30,119 --> 01:47:34,560
Speaker 1: Until jack Who goes down. Though once that happens, well

2313
01:47:35,319 --> 01:47:40,239
that's the last battle after you know, Jack who Jack? Yeah,

2314
01:47:40,359 --> 01:47:40,720
Jack Who?

2315
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,520
Speaker 3: Indaxter, she should have dropped one of those Lang quotes

2316
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,359
from Avatar on her daughter, like.

2317
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,239
Speaker 2: How go you think you're one of them? It's time

2318
01:47:49,279 --> 01:47:49,960
to wake up.

2319
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:56,279
Speaker 1: No, I'm happy that we didn't make ship. You know

2320
01:47:57,279 --> 01:48:02,199
you don't come with me? Get married this fucking guy. Yeah,

2321
01:48:02,319 --> 01:48:05,000
I love there you go some someone Ai Stephen laying

2322
01:48:05,039 --> 01:48:08,600
into the mom off and but no, I'm I'm again

2323
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,239
happy with that because it just makes it sad. But yeah,

2324
01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:12,000
I'll be interested if we even return those at all.

2325
01:48:12,039 --> 01:48:13,920
But I'll be excited next week to see mom Moffman

2326
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,960
full like yeah I have in mode and hanging out

2327
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:19,199
with people and giving, like being a true leader and

2328
01:48:19,239 --> 01:48:21,039
stuff like. I don't know where she's gonna be, but

2329
01:48:21,279 --> 01:48:23,319
she's still gonna be another speech.

2330
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 2: So is she still gonna be super well dressed like

2331
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:27,600
she is she was?

2332
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 3: She does the white robes though, right, that's that's her

2333
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:32,279
new look because that was what she was wearing in

2334
01:48:32,359 --> 01:48:32,800
Rope one.

2335
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,159
Speaker 2: It's not as complex though as some of the crazy

2336
01:48:35,159 --> 01:48:36,319
outfits that she had before.

2337
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 3: Costume design gotta be realistic.

2338
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 1: She's on the road.

2339
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, for anyone that's listening that is not watched Rebels.

2340
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,039
And of course they mentioned here like they want to

2341
01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:49,720
round her up to Gold Squadron and do give her

2342
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:52,680
like a proper formal like follow up speech. That whole

2343
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,159
speech is in is in Rebels, and I was checking

2344
01:48:55,159 --> 01:48:57,159
it out after I after I watched the episode, and

2345
01:48:57,199 --> 01:48:58,960
it was like it's an eight year old video, but

2346
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,640
the comments were just with like hour ago, like tons

2347
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:03,600
of people like here afterhand or season two. Oh, this

2348
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:06,079
has such a change like dynamic now and all these

2349
01:49:06,119 --> 01:49:08,000
people like freaking out. So go you can go and

2350
01:49:08,039 --> 01:49:10,920
find that speech on Rebels if you're curious.

2351
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: Another thing I thought we were gonna get with him

2352
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,439
on is I thought they're gonna Rena with their cousin,

2353
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,640
but that didn't happen. I thought when they went to

2354
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,640
the cousin checking all the guns and they're.

2355
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 3: Both in yavin now right, yeah, they're on Yavon.

2356
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,279
Speaker 1: But like it's gonna come like a year later when

2357
01:49:23,279 --> 01:49:25,399
I'm sure they've probably seen each other. Right, I thought

2358
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,279
there was gonna be because she hasn't seen her in

2359
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:29,680
maybe two years, so I thought that was gonna be

2360
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:31,720
a big moment because she even asked like and Or

2361
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,680
used that right, like, hey, I know your cousin. We're

2362
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,039
linked that way. They had the cousin doing the gun thing,

2363
01:49:36,079 --> 01:49:38,720
which did I miss something Taylor when she is like

2364
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,560
the gun and the guy was like, that's my gun

2365
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:43,000
and she's like, well whatever.

2366
01:49:43,319 --> 01:49:47,119
Speaker 3: So if you remember so in the prison sequence, and

2367
01:49:47,279 --> 01:49:50,039
Or befriended that one guy named Melchi and they escaped together.

2368
01:49:50,159 --> 01:49:53,359
That's the fact same guy who also was he was

2369
01:49:53,399 --> 01:49:56,239
one of the main guys that storms scaiff On in

2370
01:49:56,359 --> 01:49:57,279
Rogue one as well.

2371
01:49:57,359 --> 01:49:59,279
Speaker 2: So he's returning Rogue one character.

2372
01:49:59,399 --> 01:50:01,119
Speaker 1: Oh so he eyes yep.

2373
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2374
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:05,520
Speaker 3: I don't know the significance of the loco and the

2375
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,880
gun though, but it's it's cool that they're just they're

2376
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:09,079
tying it all full swing.

2377
01:50:09,319 --> 01:50:12,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, there you go. I wouldn't have known because

2378
01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:16,439
I didn't re watch and or so thank you to anything.

2379
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,479
Let me show my notes if there's anything I missed here.

2380
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:21,760
But I think we've hit on most of the main stuff.

2381
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 3: Oh.

2382
01:50:23,039 --> 01:50:25,640
Speaker 1: I really liked in the massacre. I like the bell

2383
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,359
Hops little mini arc there that he is now oh

2384
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,640
yeah one just like he had like a good back

2385
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:35,199
and forth, and Or almost called him Andian and Or uh,

2386
01:50:35,239 --> 01:50:37,920
And I like that he is, you know, like he's

2387
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:40,119
I'm sure he's not on the ball, yeah, but he's

2388
01:50:40,159 --> 01:50:43,239
definitely on the rebellion side, and he's helping certain people out.

2389
01:50:43,319 --> 01:50:45,199
And just when and Or and him when they say

2390
01:50:45,239 --> 01:50:47,399
goodbye to each other and they just fully break character

2391
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:50,720
to know like they're with one another. And that's where again,

2392
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,439
the show's so fucking good. This character has been in

2393
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:58,000
two episodes had I don't know, maybe ten Man's probably

2394
01:50:58,079 --> 01:51:01,399
under the screen time one and I am invested in

2395
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,760
this fucking bell hop. I want to see this guy

2396
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,199
on the front line with Luke lan on Sola fighting

2397
01:51:06,239 --> 01:51:09,159
the rebellion again. Remake episode four with some of these

2398
01:51:09,159 --> 01:51:12,399
fucking characters. I get Sebashistan as Luke can always people right,

2399
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,640
but it's just like I was like, oh, I'm invested

2400
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,720
in this fucking character to see where he goes. When

2401
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,239
he blows up the stormtroopers, he helps that family out,

2402
01:51:19,359 --> 01:51:21,840
like hell, yeah, you know, and they said that last

2403
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:23,640
week of him being like I was a kid and

2404
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,359
I saw that hole the target Masacre go down right,

2405
01:51:26,399 --> 01:51:29,800
and you could tell that it fucked with him, and yeah, can.

2406
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 2: You imagine we did get that remake, and like we

2407
01:51:32,079 --> 01:51:34,880
actually had these characters that were like introduced of like

2408
01:51:35,119 --> 01:51:38,159
big like pillars of of the Rebellion, and we like

2409
01:51:38,279 --> 01:51:42,079
see them as you know, the foot Soldiers of the Rebellion,

2410
01:51:42,079 --> 01:51:44,520
where we just see porkins for example, and he just

2411
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:45,760
he just blows up.

2412
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, probably least most propable, at least prophel stars.

2413
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,319
They put out characters with we cast with Luke Leyan

2414
01:51:52,399 --> 01:51:53,199
Han and stuff.

2415
01:51:53,279 --> 01:51:56,399
Speaker 2: So I I, yeah, I love the sequence when they

2416
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:00,239
like see each other again and then it's and he's

2417
01:52:00,319 --> 01:52:02,520
kind of talking in code because the chicks right next

2418
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,119
to him kind of monitoring. But and then at the

2419
01:52:05,199 --> 01:52:06,840
end it's like, yeah, I can't help you with your

2420
01:52:07,279 --> 01:52:09,720
with your suitcase this time again. But I think you

2421
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,079
know the way it just because because they don't say like,

2422
01:52:12,119 --> 01:52:14,359
oh I remember you, because he's using a different alias,

2423
01:52:14,399 --> 01:52:16,399
he can't just wrat him out right there. So I

2424
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,720
just liked how the whole sequence played and agree with

2425
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:19,840
everything else that you said there.

2426
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 3: I like the line too that they pulled again from

2427
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:25,319
Rogue one where the bellhops like rebellions are built on hope.

2428
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,399
That's exactly what Jenneroso says in the movie, so it's consistent.

2429
01:52:29,079 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: And that little Force user kind of she said something

2430
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:34,800
about him still having hope as well too, so again

2431
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:35,920
that's like for and Or.

2432
01:52:36,199 --> 01:52:39,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he's he's the messenger, which is funny,

2433
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:41,640
like he's just supposed to help get the plans shop

2434
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:42,319
to space and.

2435
01:52:42,279 --> 01:52:46,079
Speaker 1: That's that's technically that his messenger rights the first death Star.

2436
01:52:46,279 --> 01:52:50,600
So yeah, fortunately they build another one. But uh, and

2437
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,520
my last note I had here is when he first

2438
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:55,880
got back and Or and he saw a Bix until

2439
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,039
they switched them sitting down. The shot is just from

2440
01:52:59,039 --> 01:53:01,640
like her chest up to her head. I thought for

2441
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:04,039
sure she was pregnant, and she wasn't, but I thought

2442
01:53:04,079 --> 01:53:05,760
that was gonna be and I thought, oh man, they're

2443
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:09,359
gonna fucking have and Or lose like Dix and his

2444
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,119
kid or an unborn child. Wasn't all didn't happen all,

2445
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:14,720
but just like for about fifteen seconds she was shot

2446
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,000
with not showing her stomach, and I was like, what

2447
01:53:17,079 --> 01:53:18,680
are we doing here? That was just shot they went with.

2448
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,039
I was like, oh, I was like, I'm gonna fucking

2449
01:53:21,399 --> 01:53:23,600
I'm gonna start bawling right here, and We're like he

2450
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:27,279
also loses his woman and the kids like man, rogue

2451
01:53:27,279 --> 01:53:29,000
one is gonna break me. The next time, he's like,

2452
01:53:29,119 --> 01:53:31,439
you don't know what I've lost, Like he's already lost

2453
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,239
a lot. But that I was like, oh my god.

2454
01:53:33,359 --> 01:53:37,960
But uh yeah, yeah, that's all my notes.

2455
01:53:39,279 --> 01:53:42,560
Speaker 2: I I might have been mistaken here. But the first

2456
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,560
time that we go to like the Gorman Rebel guys,

2457
01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,920
like they're just they're just chatting, getting ready to uh

2458
01:53:48,079 --> 01:53:51,079
storm the gates more or less, and like I might

2459
01:53:51,079 --> 01:53:53,319
have been mistaken here, but like I swear they're one

2460
01:53:53,359 --> 01:53:56,439
guy that's like around the table, is that guy when

2461
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,920
scentindize the guy's like what are doing? And then and

2462
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,000
then he comes in there and then ends up carrying

2463
01:54:03,039 --> 01:54:06,199
sinta away. Uh you know, like that guy that like

2464
01:54:06,399 --> 01:54:09,760
caused that death. You know what I'm talking about. No, No,

2465
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,359
it's when they're doing the mission. They're they're rating the cargo. Oh,

2466
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:17,560
that random guy shows up and then it's like Mario, yeah, Mario.

2467
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mario. He was just back in the war.

2468
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:21,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just with the crew.

2469
01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he was singing at the end. He

2470
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:24,479
was doing the whole.

2471
01:54:26,079 --> 01:54:29,119
Speaker 2: Part. Like the revels guy he killed Cinta and and

2472
01:54:29,199 --> 01:54:34,760
then he's over here just doing these uh the joyous songs. Yeah,

2473
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,560
it made no sense, like did they just not tell

2474
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:38,199
this guy that they're doing this mission?

2475
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 1: So he clearly was down. He was against the empire,

2476
01:54:42,039 --> 01:54:44,720
he's for the rebellion. He's there on the boots, like

2477
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,840
you could have saved that woman's life by just saying, hey,

2478
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,920
we're doing some ship or even when walking, what are

2479
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,000
you doing? Oh, we think the empire is like it's

2480
01:54:52,039 --> 01:54:54,399
not like a character. And even then it would have

2481
01:54:54,399 --> 01:54:56,800
been great if we like if that let's say, he

2482
01:54:57,079 --> 01:54:59,720
was like a no, they're not doing anything, and that

2483
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,239
woman and dying was the moment where almost like for Sero,

2484
01:55:02,359 --> 01:55:05,079
that clicked of like, oh the Empire is bad and

2485
01:55:05,079 --> 01:55:07,439
I cast someone's life. But it's like already last week, Yeah,

2486
01:55:07,439 --> 01:55:09,640
he was making those speeches against them, So it wasn't

2487
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:12,199
like an epiphany for him of oh shit, I'm on

2488
01:55:12,199 --> 01:55:14,199
the wrong side. I'm gonna switch over, because I could

2489
01:55:14,199 --> 01:55:15,880
have bought that and then see him this will be like, oh,

2490
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:18,760
look that lady died, but that switched him over to

2491
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:21,199
do good. He was already doing good, but he just

2492
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,800
fucking had to wrestle that guy's gun out of his

2493
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,680
hand and shoot her. It's like still, yeah, no matter what,

2494
01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,359
love this show. Uh probably still give it a ten,

2495
01:55:29,359 --> 01:55:31,920
but it's definitely out of most seasons, that has to

2496
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,640
be the weakest link of this show. And so it

2497
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,439
was such a weird, like we just want this girl

2498
01:55:37,479 --> 01:55:39,319
to die and give her a big speech. It's like,

2499
01:55:39,359 --> 01:55:40,800
there's so many ways you could have got there. Just

2500
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,640
have a storm trooper fucking shooter, you know, like just yeah,

2501
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,399
but yeah, it's good to see Mario back. And I

2502
01:55:46,399 --> 01:55:48,279
don't think we saw him die on screen though, right,

2503
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,279
We just saw him holding his friend who got shot

2504
01:55:50,319 --> 01:55:52,960
in the gut. So maybe maybe he's on the avin.

2505
01:55:53,119 --> 01:55:56,159
He's gonna accidentally shoot a lot more people. What are

2506
01:55:56,159 --> 01:56:00,880
you doing? What are these transports? Middle night? He accidentally killed? Yeah?

2507
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:02,319
Where you going? Where you going?

2508
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 3: He's just always in the wrong location.

2509
01:56:08,039 --> 01:56:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's like strong as an ox, and they're like, fuck,

2510
01:56:12,479 --> 01:56:13,479
I'll keep him around.

2511
01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:19,359
Speaker 2: My last note is just on the I think he's

2512
01:56:19,359 --> 01:56:23,079
a general, I don't know, General Cairos or something was

2513
01:56:23,079 --> 01:56:25,720
his name, basically the one that's sent there to be

2514
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:30,399
like co manager with Dedro Deadra's still running the operations,

2515
01:56:30,399 --> 01:56:33,600
but he's like the technical whatever. I can't remember what

2516
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:37,319
party ass define their their roles were, but it was

2517
01:56:37,359 --> 01:56:40,079
just it was just kind of fun seeing it's not

2518
01:56:40,119 --> 01:56:42,079
like him and Dedre we're going like button heads, but

2519
01:56:42,119 --> 01:56:44,640
you could definitely tell like it's just you're kind of

2520
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,319
in my territory here and stepping on my toes and

2521
01:56:47,319 --> 01:56:51,159
and and just just that dynamic. Is this like a

2522
01:56:51,239 --> 01:56:54,239
character that like has popped up in places before or.

2523
01:56:54,399 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't recognize him at all. But

2524
01:56:57,199 --> 01:56:59,199
you're dealing with two different divisions where you have like

2525
01:56:59,239 --> 01:57:02,000
Imperial Navy and then you have ISB.

2526
01:57:02,359 --> 01:57:03,399
Speaker 2: Usually ISB is.

2527
01:57:03,399 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 3: A little bit more control and hierarchy in these situations

2528
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,600
because they're like the ones that are like behind the scenes.

2529
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,920
Like if you're in the Imperial Empire and you're fucking

2530
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:17,079
around like breaking rank or whatever, the ISB is gonna

2531
01:57:17,119 --> 01:57:18,359
come down and hammer you out.

2532
01:57:18,479 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 2: So it's cool to see this.

2533
01:57:21,439 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 1: He's he's got his own comic kirk joke.

2534
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,880
Speaker 2: Check okay, explains how we got that scar Yeah, but

2535
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:31,520
then they wreckon it later on, so he's eating pussy.

2536
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:37,119
Speaker 1: It's a scarface joke. You'll go watch Scarface, anything else,

2537
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:39,760
say any notes ers at it? That's all I got

2538
01:57:40,359 --> 01:57:43,000
man two hours on full Like. It's a full like

2539
01:57:43,079 --> 01:57:45,520
movie review that we did for end Or. That speaks

2540
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,800
to the quality of what we got here. And Yeah,

2541
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:50,840
we're gonna be back next week to break it down.

2542
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,760
Happily and sadly. We're coming to a close here on

2543
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:56,000
and Or season two, but hopefully we go out with

2544
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,439
a bang. I don't think this next week will be

2545
01:57:58,479 --> 01:58:00,560
as good as this, just because I feel like that

2546
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,600
you can only hit the heights of this in one season.

2547
01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:04,239
It's hard to do that. I feel like next week's

2548
01:58:04,239 --> 01:58:06,640
gonna you're probably gonna get a fun I think next

2549
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,760
week you're gonna get some episode episode where there's gonna

2550
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:10,199
be a fun episode with and Or and K twos

2551
01:58:10,319 --> 01:58:13,119
so mess and stuff up. Whatever happens at eleven, that's

2552
01:58:13,159 --> 01:58:14,960
probably some heavy shit. And I bet twelve is a

2553
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,520
lot of Like you should go watch Rogue one, like,

2554
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:19,319
I bet it's a lot of that.

2555
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:21,319
Speaker 2: Just keep it going. Yeah, let's go into Rogue one

2556
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:22,119
new Hope.

2557
01:58:22,239 --> 01:58:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching Rogue one after this. Yeah, and

2558
01:58:24,399 --> 01:58:26,960
I'll be watching Luckily, I'm about to watch New Hope

2559
01:58:27,439 --> 01:58:31,239
probably this weekend. So yeah, it's fun to be watching stuff.

2560
01:58:31,239 --> 01:58:33,600
I'll be looking out for mon Mathma and Bell Hop

2561
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,279
guy and my my New Hope that him on Yavin

2562
01:58:36,399 --> 01:58:39,119
Is that him? But yes, Lady Jiven, we'll be back

2563
01:58:39,199 --> 01:58:41,119
next week as usual. Let us know what you thought

2564
01:58:41,159 --> 01:58:43,520
in the comments discord wherever. We thank you very much

2565
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:45,880
for listening or watching, I mean, Pross. When you hear

2566
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:49,479
from us next week, it'll not be boring. Bye,