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Speaker 1: Frankfurt, the East West Rid. If you detest the German

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line press, corrupt journalists and regime tv ard ZDF, signed

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Spiegel faz Suadh, then you wanted doctor Rito Wolfcott to

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live forever. If you believe in truth, freedom of speech,

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and democracy, then you want.

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Speaker 2: So. He died in twenty seventeen, a couple of years

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after that from a heart attack. I wonder if he

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was hit with the heart attack gun on next ten dollars.

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I feel bad for Germans. They've been handed a horrific

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hand for seventy five years. Gibil Kane. If God has

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won and shares his glory with no one, then how

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is the Trinity true? Well, even in the Old Testament

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he says that he does share that glory with his

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angel and with his spirit. So you can watch my

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video here the Trinity and the Old Testament. So you

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have to understand in context and interpret that with all

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of the other texts. So something can be one and

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many in different ways. And even the rabbis admitted that

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there was multiplicity in God. So does that mean that

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he shares his glory with his multiple attributes, his multiple

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emanations or manifestations. So you understand the same question can

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be asked of a Unitarian whether they're Muslim or whether

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they're Jewish. But I have multiple videos covering this the

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Jewish trinity right here. My main Trinity video is not

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coming up though. We're going to open up, by the way,

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two questions in a second. Where is that whether Islamer

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Christianity actually has continuity with the religion that's laid down

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in the Law and the prophets and that image there.

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We're not going to go two deep into right now,

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but we'll get in. That's the opening statement for the

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Daniel who could get your debate. Oh, I notice it.

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I need to just retddle this one too. It just

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needs to all be trinity in the Old Testament. Here

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it is this one here Isaiah says, this one will

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go into the other passages that say that. When it

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says he doesn't share his glory with another, he doesn't

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share his glory with a creature, it doesn't mean he

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doesn't share his glory with his spirit or with his

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son or the Angel of the Lord, the Angel of Yahweh.

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So the Old Testament says both. And you can't pick

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one passage and say, aha, this passage and not the

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other passages. It's all of them read in concert. That's

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the only way to interpret the scriptures. Andrew, how does

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Theosis avoid the super legalism that you find in Islam,

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Judaism and Papism. I mean, it's just the I mean,

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everybody believes and knows that the Orthodox fronema is not

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temutick and not legalistic. It's our mindset and only Orthodoxy,

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in my view, is really maintained that fronema or that mindset.

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In the Roman Catholic world, they got so legalistic and

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into Kazustrie with canon law that they basically became telmudick.

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And then you have a reaction against that a Vatican two.

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So now they're sort of basically just water down Protestants

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post Vatican Two. But Nantium Emperor three dollars. People say

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Jay doesn't leave people Orthodoxy because he's mean and debates.

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They don't know about your work on geopolitics. Brings a

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whole group of people to become away of Orthodoxy because

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he started being interested in that first. Oh thank you.

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I'm speaking from my own recent experience. Merry Christmas. Merry

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Christmas too, our great Lord Emperor, the Banantium orangutangus the first.

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He's the Emperor Panantium. None of your business to do ours.

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The gambler's fallacy that you're talking about is very important

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to address because typically the human mind will address other

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lies and then use it to not believe a claim

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even if the claim is true. Yeah, exactly, exactly. You

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understand too. A lot of these fallacies, like they're not

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just in the domain of logic and nerd shit, Like

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it comes home to roost with propaganda and advertising. And

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you know, when you're at the Christmas dinner and Thanksgiving dinner,

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family dinner and everybody's arguing about politics or whatever, you

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got to deal with, you know, uncle shitlibs fallacies, right,

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So it really just depends on it's In other words,

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fallacies are present everywhere, even if we don't notice it.

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Ac says, for another five dollars sweet candy, it's flooding

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the zone with conspiracy candy. Exactly. That's exactly what's going on.

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Andrew two dollars is debating Catholics are Protestants easier? Uh,

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they're about nobody's I don't mean this in a douchey way,

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but like they're not really any different at this point,

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because look, modern Protestantism is really not a whole lot

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different from modern nova sorto Catholicism. I mean, they're all

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pretty much the same Protestant position, you know what I mean, Like,

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they're not that different. They're all pretty much picking and

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choosing out of these vast troves of documents what they

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want to work. The only difference is that the Protestants

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are picking and choosing from the Bible as they're tro

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of documents, and the Roman Catholics have tens of thousands

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of pages of more documents. So for me, because I

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the table, you would probably find it easier to debate

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Protestants because there's less documents to read. If you want

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to get into, you know, Roman Catholic apologetics, you got

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to be familiar with all these people and cyclicals and

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all blah blah blah on on on. Robert says Candace

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has lost it. I might have read that one, I remember,

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but uh yeah, it looks like she's definitely going in

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the wrong direction. Since there hypocrite, the schizos are engaged

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in false stylectics. Exactly every time I point out a

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significant problem, as Alex was doing in her claims. You

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work for bb you're getting bb bucks. No, I'm getting

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BB Bucks. I get Dugan Bucks. Dougan Coin, MK says

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for five dollars. Did you read Wolf Couta's book Prostitutes. No,

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I didn't even know that he had a book, although

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now I'm interested in it because he apparently was gotten

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rid of. Mike bens did a great deep dive on USAID.

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I'm familiar with that and how they fund the journalists

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globally even today. Now, I was aware of Mike Benz's

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USAID deep dives, and we have also shared and covered

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some of that same material. But yeah, that would perfectly

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vibe with Udo's book, which I didn't even know existed.

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I don't have to get that. Octavian, our favorite fellow Bipop,

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says Jay, since you're black, you have an afronema instead

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of a pronema. Exactly exactly. Y'all know what's up. Listen,

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Candice is not the real queen. This is the real queen,

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and it's time for all of y'all legitimates to come

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to my defense and dethrone the queen and put the

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real queen back on the throne. Banana up the butt

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fifty dollars. Now we got what's his name, TJ. Kirk.

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We've got TJ. Kirk in the audience going under the

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code name Banana up the butt fifty dollars. People still

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think everything's monolithic. They think the CIA is pro Western,

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so there's no way it would fund the Frankfurt School exactly.

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They wouldn't understand that it would attack Sovietism and create

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a co operted Western left with critical theory. Absolutely. Yeah.

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I put that in my second book almost ten years ago.

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This is then, by their own means to create a

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pseudo societal division. Exactly. Banana up the butt got a funky,

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stanky name, but he knows what he's talking about. He

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knows what he's talking about. Now. That's real conspiracies. OSS

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and CIA funding and working with the Frankfurt School against Soviets.

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That's a real conspiracy and that's documented, dude. They brag

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about it. Everybody's going all in on Dogan coin. Uh listen,

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Putin's gonna rug pull the market and then dougan coin

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when it goes down to point two cents per coin.

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I'm gonna buy it up. I'm gonna dump all my bitcoin,

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put it all in dogan coin, and then doogan Coin

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goes to the moon and replaces Bitcoin. Then I will

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buy out Michael Saylor, take over all of his bitcoin,

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and then dump all of his bitcoin and put it

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into dogan Coin. Then Putin takes over the world and

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Dan Payna ends up vindicated because Dan Pagna said, the

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worst boomer on the face of the planet said that

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Putin created bitcoin. Brian says, for five dollars, do I mean,

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why does it? Maybe Candice the new Oprah Queen, she

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could just have Dan Payna on and they could expose

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Putin for creating bitcoin. That's a that's the level of

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this stupid shit now, Brian says, can I, as an

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orthodox view, Moses allowing divorce as ecuantommeia, I would actually

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say that it's a pretty good example of economia. And

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then Jesus clarified that this wasn't the original intention in

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Genesis but was due to hardheartedness. Yeah, I actually think

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that's a pretty I haven't thought about it, but off

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the top of my head, it's a pretty good example.

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Lean good at lean, Lean says, for five dollars, Jay,

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what do you think about the absurd way that Erica

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Kirk was grieving? I do think there's legitimate questions there. Again,

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I am not pro I'm not everybody falls in these dialectics.

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Oh so you think TPUSA is like this great, awesome

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Protestant organism. No, not ever said that. Again, guys, I

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did podcasts calling out megachurches as money laundering scam things

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with John Adams ten years ago. Afternoon Commute hoaxbusters call

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you can find those still. Candace is Oprah is a stretch, bro.

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It's an analogy, you dummy. I mean, good god man.

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You guys in the audience are just y'all need some

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help today. Y'all don't understand jokes and analogies that they don't.

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The answer is no, Jay, they do not. The audience

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and the people now are hit with the tard gun.

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Everybody's tard maxing. I'm sorry, y'all are tard maxing. It's

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not my fault. I've been here trying to save y'all

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from tard maxing, and you just want to rush headlong

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into being tard maxers. Go for it. Have fun. It's

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the same as all y'all dummies shit talking bitcoin for

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the last ten years to me, and then bitcoin goes

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up and y'all dummies stay broke, and you still shit

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talk to me that bitcoin's going to zero. Okay, hf

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SP have fun. Go for it. And you want to

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follow tard conspiracies into oblivion, go for it. Have fun.

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I don't care like you're not. It doesn't hurt me. Dude,

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you want to. You wanta tard max go for it.

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I gave. I gave Sweet Candy the benefit of the doubt.

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I listened to three weeks of our shows, and the

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whole narrative with this tard fell apart, and all y'all

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want to double down. Good be dumb, like, go be dumb.

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Nobody is stopping you from tard maxing, and you're all

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getting really good at it too. You're like expert tard maxers.

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Now we're gonna open it up. You could call in

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on any topic. I don't care you want to. I

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know all the atheists want to call this tugwork. If

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you want to do the tag argument for the thousands

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of times, call in, go for it. Let's do it.

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You want to call in and explain that sweet candy,

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sweet chocolate candy. See sweet chocolate candy, sweet dropping in?

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You dropped ya? You want to show that I'm getting

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Bebi bucks. Go for it, dude, bring it out, Bring

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out that information to expose I'm exposed, Ja Daiah. I'm

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expose him because he dared to go against the real

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queen of the Internet. Mm hmmm. By the way, Nicholas

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Cage made it under my Christmas tree right there, look

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at that. Oh, here we go. Jay is Putin part

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of the CIA. Jay, what do you think of Putin?

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He seems more moral than the CIA. My go arch

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deacon dislikes him and says that he's not Orthodox. Well,

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I mean, go arch just does whatever the ep in

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the State Department told him to do. So I don't.

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I don't put my hope and trust not in princes

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and sons of men, as the liturgy says, I don't

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put my hope in Putin. If Putin does something good, good,

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If Trump does something good good. If they do something bad, well,

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it sucks. So at least I'm not getting asked on

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a daily basis, what do you think of elon? Good God? Dude?

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For like three years straight, I was asked, what do

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you think about Eon? And then for like five years,

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what do you think of Putin? What do you think

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of Trump? All right, if you want to call in,

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call in, let's do it. What's up, dude? I need

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some water? I need some water? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Ye?

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Speaker 5: But you get to somewhere quiet real fast.

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Speaker 6: As I'm not work, I'm heading out the door now.

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Speaker 2: Damn? Why'd you do that?

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Speaker 7: First?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 2: You tar Maxine man? I'm just joking. What do you

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think of Buden? Biden is a hero? That's what I think.

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That's my boy right there, Me and Biden go sniffing together.

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I called Biden my pooch because I like the way

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he sniffs. Are you are you ready? Did you get

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outside the welding factory at the welding company, the welding corporation.

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I'm just joking. Luca Diary's making fun of the middle class.

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Lucatar's making for the middle class exposure. It's just a joke, dude.

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because there's like ten comments on the Sampson Man video.

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This is no question.

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Speaker 1: This is not moral.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's up? Man? Did you get out of the

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welding factory? What's up?

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Speaker 6: I'm you?

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Speaker 2: Where's all the haters at, all the debaters at I'm.

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Speaker 9: Right here, I'm right here.

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 6: Man, I'm gonna expose you?

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Speaker 2: Please? Do I've been waiting.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was actually gonna do something.

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Speaker 10: No, I gotta, I gotta actually got a serious question

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for you. I'm a I'm a I'm a fan.

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Speaker 2: I just hold on, is it? Is it a question?

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Speaker 2: That's of course. Okay, good, That's that's all. I'm only

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taking questions today at taking no questions. I'm only taking questions, okay.

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Speaker 10: So uh, No, I just wanted to know your thoughts

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on John McArthur because I recently, I recently came across

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him and the last few week years.

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Speaker 2: Are you joking? You're joking?

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Speaker 11: No, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 10: I just wanted to know your thought I'm not saying

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that I'm a huge fan or believer in the things

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that he says.

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Speaker 6: I just came across.

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Speaker 10: From in a few years and I find them to

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be like less outwardly charismatic I'm not sure if his belief,

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but like, I'm sorry, I just want.

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Speaker 2: To It's okay. I still love you. Go back to

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the welding though, Go back to the welding corporation, dude,

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because you get back on that welder and put them

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headphones in, and we gotta we gotta edumacate you because

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you are misinformed, my friend, You sir, are misinformed. Okay,

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we are gonna have to edgumicate you. You're going to

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be in the.

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Speaker 12: Jaydre re education camp right now, my son, because John

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MacArthur is a goblin, a demon, a boomer toward.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the song that I played today, that's the only

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fitting song for that guy. Goblin Calvinism, Jay Dyer, that's

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your prompt.

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Speaker 9: Okay, And I'm going to say that the first two

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that come up here are both good places to start

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in terms of deep king.

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Speaker 2: John m Orfer. Okay, there's this one right here, hour

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and eight minutes, this one right here. Calvin is repew

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apart one and I don't even remember I know John

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MacArthur is some kind of Calvinist. Is he also a

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believer in charismatic gibberish? Is he one of those I

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can't remember. I haven't even thought about John MacArthur in

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so many years. Last time I saw a clip of

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John MacArthur, he was complaining that Trump said a cuss word.

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And I'm like, dude, of all the things to complain about,

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that's your complaint. That's why people are just so sick

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of evangelic hypocristy, like okay, yeah, so Epstein and compromising

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and graping youths. No, no, that's not the thing to criticize.

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It's cusswords. This is the stupid hypocrisy of evangelicals. It's

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just absolutely infuriating. They will focus on Trump.

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Speaker 13: Trump one time's grab a vagina little my goodness, I

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can't believe that a PRINSI did was speaking such an

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improper way. Why don't we bomb all the Gospel people

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for Israel? Goal it's applesap, who's next, Elijah?

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Speaker 2: What's up? What's up? Dog? Hey? Her? Yes, sir? Hey,

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how you doing?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: I'm good and bad at the same time.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, my mice released lar right now.

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Speaker 3: So I have some questions about Orthodoxy.

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Speaker 14: I'm learning a lot about it, and I come from

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a hyper calvinistic Baptist church.

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Speaker 6: Very similar to like the particular Baptist from England like

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eighteen hundreds and stuff like that.

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Speaker 14: And so the gist of my question what I'm really

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trying to get down to is, I know, Orthodoxy teach

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succession through the apostles and apasolic authority. The Church I

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come from teach us as purely doctrinal succession, and I

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know I'd be harder to find that in the first

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few centuries, since you don't really have a scripture to

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lay down doctrine because you don't have it organized.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we have church fathers who teach doctrines in

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the first few centuries, and they don't teach anything anything

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close to what Baptists teach. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 6: Uh, That's why I get back.

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Speaker 14: I mean, at the same time, the Church I come from,

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they they claim the you know, Baptist succession.

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Speaker 3: And through all those culture, which is I know, pseudohistory bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, But now that we do have a confirmed can.

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Speaker 3: Of scripture.

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Speaker 14: That either even non Orthodox have access to, what do

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we do with arguments that seemingly.

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Speaker 6: Do contradict Orthodoxy And.

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Speaker 14: Would there be any excuse to anyway to establish an

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alternate church there?

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Speaker 2: Well? Hold on an alternate church.

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Speaker 15: What do you mean, Well, I mean just just establish

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a denomination outside of Orthodoxy that could be considered basically

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a scriptural church.

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Speaker 2: No, look, let's look at again. You need to read

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first and second Timothy, because if you read it and

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pay attention, you'll notice that Paul's very clear that Timothy

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is who Paul gave authority to teach in ephesis. Okay, Yeah,

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I charge you to teach in ephesis. Okay. And then

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he says later on that he laid hands on Timothy,

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and he tells Timothy not to hastily lay hands on

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anyone else because the gift of the Holy Spirit is

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transferred through the laying on of hands. He doesn't say

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anything about a purely doctrinal succession. He says, I gave

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you the authority to teach in ephesis. He says, I

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was appointed by Christ. Now you're being appointed by me

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to preach in ephesis. He says, no one else should

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teach this doctrine in ephesis. But who's appointed? So where

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is this idea that it's only a doctrinal succession and

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not an actual succession that is a laying on of

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hands doctrine and laying on of hands, it's both, right.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I guess if you're going to suppose that it's

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only a toatural succession, you had to suppose that Jesus

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Christ did keep his promise that he made you the church,

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that he send the Holy Spirit to lead into the

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Try to come.

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Speaker 3: Out to it right denying that?

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Speaker 14: And see the reason I'm so stuck on it is

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because I've been part of this church my whole life,

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of my uncle and family who are pastors and stuff

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like that. So like, was the only thing that you've

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heard for so long?

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Speaker 2: Kind of sure, But.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of Hassel's History?

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Speaker 14: Hassel's Church History written by a god named Sylvester Hassel. No, Okay,

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it's a really long book on Baptist history and it

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basically teaches Baptist successionism.

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Speaker 2: But just just go read the actual church fathers, dude,

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instead of reading all this retarded you know, like Trail

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of Blood crap. Man, that's nonsense. Just go read the

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actual church fathers and you're going to see that they

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teach what Paul teaches to Timothy. Right. Remember that through

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the laying on of hands, the Holy Spirit is given. Okay,

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No Baptist teaches that historically and Baptists that are Trail

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of Blood Baptist that you're talking about. They will actually

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say anti Trinitarian groups are in this lineage. How stupid

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is that that alone is a kill shop anti Trinitarian

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groups that the that the Trail of Blood lists. Let

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me show you. I think they even include h Gnostics too,

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don't they. Let's see, I need a I need a

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big look at that followed the full size in but

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we follow Jesus America and the Nation of Israel. Well,

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I can't even see it. Dude. You should have boomers

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over here uploading their Trail of Blood and it's not

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even full size landmark Baptist church Trail of Blood friends,

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Come on, dude, I just want a full sized version

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of your tard chart. Come on, dude, all right, let's

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pick the large ones. I just want to picture doll. Brother.

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Here we go, brother, So here is the primitive Baptist chart,

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the Trail of Blood as it's cold. These are the

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true Christians and each centry friend, by the way, they

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think the infant Baptism came to be in the year

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three hundred. This is so stupid. So who are the

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true Christians. Well, there's a few of them in England

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and Wales. In Italy, Montanists look at that. So Charismatics here, Donutists,

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cathari Paulicians, all Virgensians. They're actually they link themselves to

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anti Trinitarian groups in order to find the true success.

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I will say though, that at least the Landmark Baptists

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have the idea that at least there has to be

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a historic church, so they've at least got that much

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of it. They're just historic church is a bunch of conflicting, contradictory,

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openly heretical groups, including anti Trinitarians. So what does that

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tell you, Rachel?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Yes, hello, I was just calling in to ask if

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the blood Trail thing is in any way related to

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the blood Moon pies of Israel.

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Speaker 2: No, unfortunately it's not, although I wish we could connect

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them in some way, and if you're looking to start

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an evangelical cult, some of you enterprising young drifters out

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there might be able to make a connection like that,

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But as of yet, no, there is unfortunately not a

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known aschatological connection. Okay, thank you, Thank you, Rachel. Shout

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out to Rachel and everybody be sure and follow Rachel

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and Andrew and go check out her book, Occult Roots

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of Feminism. We I mean a lot of the Lamar

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Baptists are definitely premillennial, you know, a killist believers, so

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they're gonna kind of default support. Uh the Apple I

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allogize Israel. Mike ow us up the blood Moon pie

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is what a doot? I'm you dude, Micah, I'm mute.

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See this is why Jamie bought me this T shirt

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because you guys don't understand how to work things that

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we've It's almost ten years and you can't figure out

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to unmute Jason? What's up? Jason and the Orgonauts?

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Speaker 16: I'm you dude, Hey Jay, I want to ask a

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question about tag. Okay, regarding TAG, like, what would you say?

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Just some of you saying how how do you not

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need to justify God? When you were saying like God

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is the precondition for logic, how would you answer that?

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Because I'm having some trouble regarding that.

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Speaker 2: Because it's a second order question. It's not a first

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order question. So you're asking for the justification for the

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thing that is justification. So it's a paradigm level question,

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and paradigm level questions are outside of the scope of

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first order logical justifications.

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Speaker 16: Okay, thanks, So what would you say to like if

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someone says logic is just a brute fact, like there's

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no need to justify it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then God's a brute fact, and there's no need

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to justify God. So you understand in a debate you

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can do the same thing. So they're not understanding how

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debate works. And by the way, to say that it

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just is just is what I mean? That basically tells

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us nothing. Hank, what's up, Hank Williams Junior? What's up

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the problem with the tag? I'm not mad at Jason.

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He has good questions. It's just it's the same questions

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for ten years, guys on tag, It's always the same questions,

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and it's just like it gets annoying. Josh. Did Nick

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Flints get his style of manerisms from you? I doubt it?

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Anonymous ten dollars. How does Tragian hope compared to Whitney

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Webb's One Nation Under Blackmail? Vastly different books? I mean

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vastly different.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 2: One Nation under Blackmail is a heavily sourced journalistic expose

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style book. It's a necessary book, necessary read, absolutely crucial reading,

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particularly the Epstein volume. Tragian Hope is a twelve hundred

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thirteen hundred page military history. It's a technical, geopolitical military

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style history book. So they are night and day different

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types of books. Tragian Hope is a defense of the

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Anglo American establishment. Whitney Webb's book is a journalistic expose

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of Robert Maxwell, Justlaine Maxwell, and Jeff Stain mc effrey.

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So there absolutely could not be further apart in terms

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of the style of book and what they're about. However,

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they do obviously overlap because they're the same power structure

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and establishment being critiqued. But one of them is an

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apologetic for the establishment and the other one is a expose.

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Whitney's book was a slog for me, all of these

466
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:29,680
labyrinthine relationships and textbook details. Is that how Tragi Hope reads? Well, Honestly,

467
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,920
it's going to be more difficult because it's about a

468
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:39,000
thousand times more labyrinth labyrinthine historical details. Now it's not

469
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,759
a bad book. In other words, it does for that

470
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,400
type of a book. It's a lot more readable than

471
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,920
some normy World War two twelve under page history book

472
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,359
that will put you to sleep. It's a lot better

473
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,519
than that. There's a lot more gems, a lot more exciting.

474
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But remember, Tragian Hope is not a conspiracy expose. It's

475
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000
a person who believes in the establishment, writing from the

476
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,480
assallage of perspective. By the way, because most people are

477
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,920
not going to read that twelve hour page book, I

478
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,000
did an entire lecture series for you guys and is

479
00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:14,799
still on the front page of my channel. People don't

480
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,119
search the channel pages, I guess anymore. But if you

481
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,200
go to my page, trasgihte lectures are still here. And

482
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,559
we're ten years in, so it's a ten year celebration.

483
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Solebrate New World Order. Come on, all right, make sure

484
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640
I didn't miss a super shat here. JB. Peltier, do

485
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:47,200
you denounce the neo yacht sis? You mean neo Yea's

486
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,640
about Kanye in his Wiga hal Hitler, We got hell Hitler.

487
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:56,799
I don't sing the N version, I sing the w version.

488
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:05,880
Wiga Hello. None of your business. Jay. There's a compilation

489
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:08,559
of every Nick Cage freakout is great stuff that sounds

490
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,160
right in my alley right there. That's what we need.

491
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:21,200
That's what I want to cover. Thank you guys for

492
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
your generous a super chest today. Appreciate everybody's being very

493
00:33:25,079 --> 00:33:30,839
filled with the spirit of generosities. Corey, I missed the

494
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,440
super chest, Corey says, Corey, you boy, Corey, for five dollars,

495
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,720
prove me wrong. Play the clip of Candace saying, as

496
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,960
a statement of fact, Mitch saw what he saw, and

497
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,599
I'll send you twenty dollars. I already played the clip

498
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:55,400
of Alex playing that Anonymous sends fifty dollars. Thank you

499
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,799
so much, Anonymous. Appreciate that. Listen, you want to go

500
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,680
leave this tard shit, go for it. And then when

501
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:05,519
you double down and you get refuted on all this

502
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,360
TRD stuff, then the next week you'll just move on

503
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,760
to the next soap opera tard Candace drop, Quandas drop,

504
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,119
and then you'll call everybody who disagrees and debunks that

505
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,840
one bb bb buck receivers.

506
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 5: Go for it.

507
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you're the expert. I've only been studying this for

508
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,840
twenty five years, but all of these soccer moms and

509
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,840
wine moms are now geopolitical assassination Black ops concerned say yeah,

510
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,519
you're all right, Yeah, all the wine moms and the

511
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,719
Karens and the soccer moms in America are now way

512
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,119
more knowledgeable than me. They don't even have to read trig.

513
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,760
You hope they've watched Candace. They don't have to read

514
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,760
thirteen hundred page books and lecture through it. You've already

515
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,880
all the moms have surpassed me because bb bought me out.

516
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,159
That's right. Yeah, listen, stupid people. As you get older,

517
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:02,679
you realize stupid people get what they desire. It's just

518
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,360
like with bitcoin. Bitcoin is the IQ test? Okay, well,

519
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,679
Candas's IQ test now, so have fun with that, Aiden says.

520
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,760
For fifty dollars, Jay, I found a ro Corps parish

521
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,360
not far from me. Is that a good website of

522
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,239
the Assembly of Bishops? I mean, if it's a road

523
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,760
Corps parish, it's a canonical church. You don't have to

524
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,039
worry about all that. I'm not familiar with it. Would

525
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:31,719
you recommend it as a good website? I mean, if

526
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,480
it's a row Corps parish, that is a canonical parish. So,

527
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:40,239
but thank you for that. Super che v Vegos is

528
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for ten dollars. They don't understand all the carols that

529
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,559
are sung in Winter, all of my brothers, Jolly brother

530
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,519
Merry Christmas. Okay, I appreciate that. I don't understand that,

531
00:35:54,559 --> 00:35:59,079
but I appreciate it. Andrew, is it because the priestly

532
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:04,440
celibacy for five dollars that the papacy has so many

533
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:08,920
Voice of Diddy scandals? I think priestly celibacy plays a

534
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,639
role in it. But it's more than that. I mean,

535
00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,679
you understand, tradcats have already even written books on this. Right,

536
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:22,440
there's the trade cat book right Ausnomy about this. So

537
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:27,360
you can't yell at, oh it's a it's an ortho

538
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,159
bro conspiracy. No, it's a trad cat that wrote this book.

539
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,079
So go read this. If you really want to get

540
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:38,280
into the you really want to get into the gay

541
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,760
rabbit hole of all this crap, then read or write

542
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,840
of S O D O M line right there by

543
00:36:48,719 --> 00:37:00,760
this trade cat Chris Elmer ten dollars. I appreciate what

544
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,639
you do. I'm currently reading Tragian Hope because of your channel.

545
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:08,000
I am tenor pages in Good Good, so you're you're

546
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:13,360
into the section talking about the history of Europe and

547
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:19,039
it's setting the stage for modern European civilizations and treaties.

548
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,599
In international law, and you're going to get to the

549
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:24,480
chapter very soon talking about how Russia is bad and

550
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:30,239
that the future is democratic capitalism and that all the

551
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,440
authoritarian powers represented by the Australungarian Empire, the access Powers

552
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:40,639
and Russia and the Cold War must be destroyed. That's

553
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:47,280
what the hope is, democratic capitalism and the reading of

554
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,760
the world of the authoritarian powers, and by authoritarian I

555
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,480
mean powers believing in and related to tradition. Hank, what's up.

556
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:03,239
I'm you. I'm your dude. I mean, I guess people

557
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,159
just want to call that. They just want me to

558
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,360
get agitated today because we literally made this T shirt

559
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,840
because of this, Hank, can you not unmute? You don't

560
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:28,480
know how this works after ten years? Okay, goodbye? John Adams,

561
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:34,559
what's up? John Adams is jealous of Candace because even

562
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:38,599
though he talked about things ten years ago, Candace, he's

563
00:38:38,679 --> 00:38:41,239
ripping Candace off. And he's jealous because he's not a

564
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:49,440
black queen like me and her. John. Yeah, quick question.

565
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Speaker 6: So John MacArthur is a five point.

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Speaker 5: Twulph Presbyterian, but he's also a Zionist dispensationalists.

567
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Speaker 3: How does that work with the PSA.

568
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Speaker 2: Well, most dispensationalists believe in PSA, So where where are

569
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you seeing a contradiction there?

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, how does how does Jews who you know,

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put Christ on the cross get in the PSA. I'm

572
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not because some evangelicals wouldn't believe that, and that's how

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I was raised.

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Speaker 2: So well, I think that they would just say that

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there's these promises that are earthly in nature to Israel

576
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that are yet to be fulfilled, and so those promises

577
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like the millennial kingdom and reigning from Jerusalem, those are

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not identical to the Selvaffic promises. So many dispensationalists would

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still say that Jews, if they want eternal salvation, still

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have to believe in Christ. So there's still the only

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access to the Father for salvation eternally is PSA. But

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God still has these sort of earthly promises to the

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nation state of Israel that he will fulfill in the

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dispensation in the Millennial Kingdom.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so it's not like a blood inherent thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there could be some dispensationalists who believe in

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a form of dual covenant theology like I mean sometimes

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Ratzinger even sounds like he believes that Jews don't even

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have to convert to be saved. So there could be

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some that believe that they can be saved even in Judaism.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, interesting, Yeah, but that's kind of what John

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MacArthur is. He's kind of like a mainline like kind

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of a mega church. Yeah, Presbyterian.

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Speaker 2: Does he believe in the spiritual gifts? Or is he

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a cessation He does.

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Speaker 5: He's not a charismatic at all. He's like a cessationalist.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I wasn't sure. I didn't remember. I never

598
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had a John MacArthur phase. A lot of evangelicals do,

599
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like they have a time where they kind of get

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into him and they get the MacArthur Study Bible and

601
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all that. I went straight from reading the John Hagey

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Prophecy Study Bible when I was nineteen to reading Charles

603
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Spurgeon and John Calvin and Jonathan Edwards, and so I

604
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:41,920
went directly into I had a James White Baptist Calvinist

605
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phase for maybe a year or two, and then I

606
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went full Covenant theology Presbyterian when I was twenty twenty

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or so. PSA is penal substitutionary atonement. That's the Protestant

608
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Reformation doctrine that the salvation of human beings is through

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the perfect lawkeeping of Jesus, who dies in that perfect state,

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pays off the debt and the wrath of God, and

611
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then in a legal sense, puts the believers who believe

612
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in Him into a legal status of being perfectly righteous

613
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before God. So your righteousnesses are filthy rags, and so

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Jesus does the work for you and puts you in

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a legal state of being justified. And your works had

616
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nothing to do with that. Your faith is what makes

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you justified. And faith itself is also a gift according

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to classical Protestant Reformation teaching. So that model, that transactional,

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imputational legal status model, is the essence of Reformation teaching.

620
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So that's what PSA means. That's what PSA is. Historically,

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the dumb people in the so called Orthodox world that

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are like twenty year old converts that think that Orthodox

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people teach PSA don't even know the classical Reformation teaching.

624
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They don't know what that means. They think to the

625
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word penal and substitution have an equivalent meaning between the systems,

626
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and so Orthodox also believe in PSA it's just word concept, fallacy,

627
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basic stupidity. But in the Reformation teaching, the Classical Reformation teaching,

628
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it specifically means that whether you're a Presbyterian or whether

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you're a Lutheran or some other evangelical thing. Most evangelicals

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for the most part have held to that teaching, although

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there may be some minor nuances. For example, some evangelicals

632
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these days do not believe, as the performers did, that

633
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Jesus was damned on the cross. Some of them have

634
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some alternative variant theories. Damarian, a fellow BIPOC person, what's

635
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up to, Maarian?

636
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Speaker 3: How's it going?

637
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Speaker 2: You sound like a white man. I'm a little fused.

638
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm black.

639
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: I just so, what's my man? What's what's my brother?

640
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Speaker 4: Uh?

641
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Speaker 3: So, I just wanted to ask you a quick question.

642
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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm only taking questions today. I'm not taking questions.

643
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Speaker 3: There you go, that's a quick question.

644
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Speaker 11: So you believe in the creationist view, and that basically

645
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is held up because you believe that there is no death.

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Speaker 2: Before the fall, right, that's one reason.

647
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Speaker 11: But yes, okay, so I kind of have an issue

648
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with that, only because, like I want to be. I

649
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am considering to be Orthodox, like I go to the

650
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Orthodox Church. I want to I'm a Catechaym and everything

651
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,039
like that. And so I'm wondering, is that like a

652
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dogma type of thing? Is that, like you have to

653
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believe this to be Orthodox because I'm under kind of

654
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like an Adamite view of things in.

655
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Speaker 2: This or no that. I don't no, no, not Adam,

656
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not ANIMI I'm.

657
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Speaker 11: Under the view of looking at the science seeing that

658
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maybe things were actually happening for billions of years and

659
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that animal death did occur, but not in the same

660
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way that we view human death after the fall, because

661
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it actually encompasses multiple different factors.

662
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't even know what that means. But

663
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I mean Ramas eight says that death came through Adam,

664
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so it doesn't distinguish it. It doesn't distinguish animal death,

665
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natural death, creation death.

666
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Speaker 3: Okay.

667
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Speaker 11: So to that, I would ask you a question, if

668
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Adam and Eve didn't partake of the Tree of Life

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at all, what would happen to their bodies?

670
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Speaker 3: Would they cease? Because to my understanding, it's.

671
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Speaker 11: Through the energies of grace, through the communion of the

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Tree of life that they received that form of immortality

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during that time.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, the tree of life is an image that

675
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points to Christ himself. Christ is the actual tree of life.

676
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So the only way to be made immortal is not

677
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from a tree, it's from actually partaking of the life

678
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that the Son of God has. And so in the

679
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Orthodox view, if you read the book Deification in Christ

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by Peniotis Nellus, he points out that man was always

681
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made to be made immortal and to participate in the

682
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image of Christ. So he's made after the image of Jesus.

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And so Adam is a type of Jesus precisely because

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Jesus is the pattern of atom. So from that perspective,

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creation has always been chrystological. All the created order was

686
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about Christ from the very beginning. So it's not a

687
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plan be It's not possible like Thomas think that God

688
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could have incarnated as a donkey or anything like that.

689
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It has to be the way that He chose to

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become man so that he could restore our nature. But

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even if we had not fallen, there was still going

692
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to be an incarnation according to the Eastern Church Fathers.

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So death, from our perspective is not natural it's an

694
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unnatural thing that invaded through the serpent and through Adam

695
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and use failure. So it was never the tree that

696
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was going to make them immortal. It was the energies

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of Christ the entire time. So had they not fallen,

698
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they still would have been made immortal through the divine

699
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energies of the Son of God.

700
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Speaker 11: Right, I understand that, And I understand that, like there's

701
00:47:27,159 --> 00:47:29,039
a symbolic sense to the Tree of Life, and I

702
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:32,719
would represents Christ everything like that. What I'm more asking

703
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,960
of is that they had an active choice to part

704
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,519
take in the Tree of Life, Like this wasn't something

705
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,840
that was forced upon them. And because of that factor,

706
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,079
you have to consider what would have happened if they

707
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:48,159
didn't and didn't go outside of the balands of sinning

708
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,440
per se.

709
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: If you go it, if you get what I mean.

710
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Speaker 11: And so I'm basically asking, was there a biological death

711
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,719
in store for them had they not parts of the

712
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,840
Tree of Life, which is understood to be Christ.

713
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: No, there's no death at all, because all death, decay, entropy,

714
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:12,400
et cetera, entered through the sin of atom. Adam is

715
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,599
the steward of creation. So when he fell, the metaphysics

716
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:19,480
of the entire universe shifted. It affected everything.

717
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 5: It's not just a moral thing.

718
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,559
Speaker 2: It's a universal metaphysical scope to the fall, and that's

719
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:28,280
unique to Orthodoxy. The other traditions teach that the Fall

720
00:48:28,519 --> 00:48:32,679
was a mere moral failing or some spiritual failing and

721
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:35,760
didn't really affect things in some sort of metaphysical scope.

722
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,760
But if you read Genesis, Creation, early Man bus sur

723
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,519
from Rows, you'll see how vast in scope and cosmic

724
00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:48,079
in scope, the fall was such that even nature itself changed,

725
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:51,719
so animals begin to be predatory. Animals weren't predatory. There

726
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,840
weren't mosquito sucking blood prior to the fall. So we

727
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,719
have a very different cosmic scope to the fall. And

728
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,480
that's why the incarnation is equally caused, making scope. So

729
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:06,079
Christ redeems and restores and transfigures the entire universe because

730
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,800
Adam destroyed the entire universe. You see in the Roman,

731
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,400
Catholic and Protestant schemes. It's really just this moral or

732
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:17,360
spiritual individual kind of thing that happened.

733
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 11: Okay, And just I just want to like ask another clarification,

734
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:26,079
because I understand what you're saying, but.

735
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: What I'm saying okay, And also I'm saying that theologically,

736
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:32,480
and we can talk about the problems with like observing

737
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:34,880
millions of years and all that with the theory the

738
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,920
philosophy of science itself. That's a separate point. But if

739
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,000
you understand, if you read the Saint Maximus book about

740
00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:45,320
on the cosmic Redemption of Christ, you'll notice that it's

741
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,480
only cosmic and scope because of the Fall in Atom's

742
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,039
actions being cosmic in scope. And so if you start,

743
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:55,760
if you start tinkering with the incarnation and its scope,

744
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,199
it doesn't just affect the Fall, it also affects the

745
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,760
eschatology because the two are linked. Because Paul says in

746
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,719
one Grade Is fifteen that the scope of Adam sin

747
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:11,199
is identical to the scope of Jesus's recapitulation. So if

748
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:16,239
you mess up the scope of incarnation and the Fall,

749
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,400
you will by default mess up the scope of the recapitulation.

750
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: Okay, And so.

751
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 11: Kind of what I'm trying to get to is like

752
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,679
I'm thinking of the moment of when Adam and Eve

753
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,599
are created, right, and at this point they aren't partaking

754
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,320
in the Tree of life, which understood as the energies

755
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,719
and everything like that from the worldview that you're saying,

756
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,480
you would almost have to presuppose that they are receiving

757
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:49,800
grace at this time because they're not having the choice

758
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,000
to choose the Tree of Life.

759
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: Basically, I'm just asking.

760
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,519
Speaker 11: Like, what is the state of their being before they

761
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,519
partook in the Tree of Life? Because my understanding is

762
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,840
that before they partook, they.

763
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,199
Speaker 3: Would have surely gone.

764
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 11: Been done away with, you know, before that time, if

765
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,000
they would have progressed without partaking, right, and this is

766
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,519
pre sin, and so that's kind of like the logical

767
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,559
thing that keeps getting in my mind about that.

768
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm wordying it correctly.

769
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: I'm not understanding that. I don't mean to be difficult.

770
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,639
I just don't understand the I don't understand. Can you

771
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,079
state it again or differently?

772
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:33,599
Speaker 3: Okay?

773
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, So so Adam and Eve are fashioned, right, and

774
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,679
there is a state of being that they're in where

775
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,000
they haven't partaken of the Tree of Life, and.

776
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:51,599
Speaker 3: Okay, and I'm basically asking.

777
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,679
Speaker 11: What is that state of being defined as if the

778
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,360
Tree of Life is considered to be the grace that

779
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:01,800
gives them immortality, does that mean that if they like

780
00:52:02,039 --> 00:52:05,639
in that state, are they I'm not trying to say death,

781
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,800
but like a biological decay in that sense. I don't

782
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,039
know how else to put it.

783
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 2: The fact that they're in a mutable state morally has

784
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,199
nothing to do with bodily physical decay. Would why would

785
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:26,559
there be? It seems like you're looking for a way

786
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:33,719
to have theistic evolution meshed with uh, you know, our view.

787
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,519
But the problem is that the Council Trollo and its

788
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:40,000
canons teach that you cannot say that death existed before

789
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:41,880
Adam felt so.

790
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,199
Speaker 3: Right, But I'm more.

791
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 11: Focusing on like the importance of communion with God and

792
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:52,280
what that looks like before they even heartsook of the

793
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Tree of life.

794
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,039
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I'm getting at.

795
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: But what does that have to do with like physical

796
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,239
biological death. I don't I'm not getting.

797
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 11: Okay, So I'm it's basically saying before they partook was

798
00:53:03,159 --> 00:53:06,559
their state that they would live on regardless, So like

799
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,760
this whole idea of death didn't exist, And so this

800
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,440
almost presupposes that before they partook, even if they didn't

801
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,440
partake outside of the bounds of like sin or whatever,

802
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:21,159
they would be practically like what is the state of

803
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,000
their being like, that's what I'm basically trying to get at, Like,

804
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,559
in that moment, and we're.

805
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,119
Speaker 2: Just told that they're in a mutable state, which is

806
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:33,079
sub was subject to change, So they they could have

807
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:35,840
sinned and they could have not sinned. That's all we're told.

808
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,639
But you're saying, well, could they have continued on indefinitely

809
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:45,800
in that state? I don't know, we're not ever told that, Okay.

810
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 11: I mean, so if it doesn't create that, and if

811
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,880
it's not very clear, doesn't that mean that there is

812
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:54,079
room for speculation.

813
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to like, no, look, let's just put

814
00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:59,039
it this way. I mean, do any of the church

815
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:01,079
fathers teach theistic evolution?

816
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 11: I mean no, they don't teach the evolution, but there

817
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,360
are church fathers. I think Besil de Great talked about

818
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,320
how animals did have a mortal state.

819
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:20,199
Speaker 2: Before he does he teaches six day creation. So have

820
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,719
you read the heck Samarron? I have not, Okay, So

821
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,880
the whole hec Samaron is six day creation. This whole

822
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,400
purpose of it. So you're not going to find theistic

823
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,960
evolution proof in him or affinacious. When they talk about mortality,

824
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:38,559
it's in the context of man's state and motive being

825
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:41,800
after the fall. He's not saying that animals were mortal

826
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,039
before the fall. There is no death like there's not.

827
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:47,639
There's no basis or reason to believe in any kind

828
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:50,719
of death before the fall, and nobody teaches that. None

829
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,760
of the church brothers teach that. So there is no

830
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,760
basis for theistic evolution orthodox view. Anyway. I appreciate your questions,

831
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,880
but I mean, just take a look at first created

832
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,280
Man by Saint Simeon, and take a look at Genesis

833
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,719
creation early Man by Father Si from Rose, and you're

834
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,480
gonna notice nobody has anything like theistic evolution. Now, maybe

835
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:13,039
it's all wrong and theistic evolution is right. But if

836
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:16,360
theistic evolution is right, Christianity is not right. What's up?

837
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:16,559
Speaker 5: Man?

838
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:26,119
Speaker 2: Yep at a question. I'm only taking questions of questions,

839
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:27,440
you know what.

840
00:55:27,679 --> 00:55:30,119
Speaker 7: You know what I mean, fam So I was just

841
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,960
wondering though, Like how I was wondering.

842
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,559
Speaker 11: If a lot of this is just semantics when it

843
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:36,960
comes to the saints, But like, are we prying to

844
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:40,199
the saints and how does this look in your spiritual life?

845
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 2: We're asking the saints to pray for us, so we're

846
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,159
praying to like we're asking for It's called the intercession

847
00:55:47,199 --> 00:55:50,639
of saints, so we're asking them to pray for us. Zora,

848
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,840
what's up? I cannot I'm trying to find the canon

849
00:55:53,960 --> 00:56:00,280
from trollo. Uh and I hate it when I'm pull

850
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,039
up my tweets because you have to figure out how

851
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:14,880
you worded the tweet. I can't type at a weird angle.

852
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:32,440
What's up, man, I'm you.

853
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 6: Hey, Jake, can you hear me?

854
00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: He says, I'm a listener. Yeah, this thing's glitching out, man.

855
00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.

856
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 3: By the way, nice fipod references.

857
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 17: But I want to let you know, while Andrew Wilson's

858
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,039
a legitimate black sonka and I might have you beaten

859
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:51,480
out there.

860
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,639
Speaker 6: Brother, But all jokes aside. I just wanted to ask.

861
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,599
Speaker 17: Around the CQ crowd, there's an argument going around that

862
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:00,239
Christ is.

863
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,559
Speaker 2: A mythical figure, and they seem to reject.

864
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 17: Not a Christian question Christ question.

865
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Adam Green crowd, Oh that okay, yep, yep.

866
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 6: They seem to reject any notion.

867
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 17: Of philosophers and historians like Josephus and the like from

868
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,800
the time period. What would you suggest as a good

869
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,719
argument to I guess, present to them and put their feet.

870
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: To the fire. Well, on what basis are we supposed

871
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,519
to uh not believe in those historical references? So they

872
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:39,039
I mean to just discount them and handwave them. First

873
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:41,440
of all, isn't an argument. And if he's going to

874
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:47,199
rely on Jewish traditions to refute Christianity or to critique Christianity,

875
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,679
or to say what, oh well look at the Jews

876
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,760
this time they said this into this. Well, if josephus,

877
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:56,920
if those things are not reliable, why would tumboody traditions

878
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,559
that he uses to refute Christianity be reliable. So it's

879
00:57:59,599 --> 00:58:01,400
just sort of ticking and choosing. Seems to me it

880
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,039
would be arbitring a hawk. Uh so, But I mean

881
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:10,440
if you watch Geam or uh doctor David Patrick Carey's

882
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,159
debate with Adam Green. I mean Adam Green is he

883
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,559
can't debate. He's pitiful.

884
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, he suggested it.

885
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: Last time I watched it.

886
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 6: It was an absolute nightmare. The final thing that they

887
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,079
always bring up is that there.

888
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,079
Speaker 17: Are no archaeological or historical finds from the Bible.

889
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,039
Speaker 4: To go back to.

890
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, we have a there's a what's

891
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:41,079
his name Orthodox archaeologist is a good buddy of mine.

892
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:59,800
I'm trying to think of his Twitter handle. Uh, I'm

893
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,360
gonna just gonna pull him up because this keeps coming up.

894
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,159
Speaker 17: And by the way, Jane knocked it right on the

895
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:20,719
head when you said they discount the argument because they

896
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,079
claim anything Old Testament was Jewish.

897
00:59:23,239 --> 00:59:27,519
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's not argument, brothers. So that's that's

898
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:28,079
really awesome.

899
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: You picked up on it right away, Thank you. Yeah,

900
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:38,039
here we go. Let's see. I asked my other friend

901
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:48,639
his Twitter profile, James. He doesn't go by his normal

902
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,920
name on Twitter, and I can't remember what it is.

903
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,599
I wish he was more active because he could do

904
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:08,599
a lot more damage to these dummies if he was

905
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,000
in the sphere, I'm sure, and on.

906
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:17,239
Speaker 6: Armenian by culture and you know origin. So I mean,

907
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,480
we have Noah's ark to go off of. On Mount Ararat,

908
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:22,239
we had the guy in the late eighties, early nineties,

909
01:00:22,239 --> 01:00:23,239
I believe when he found it.

910
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 17: Well, it's part of Turkey they call it now, but

911
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:27,639
we call him historic.

912
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,559
Speaker 2: Armenian Lands, and that apparently.

913
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 6: Doesn't account for anything towards them. The chariots and the

914
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,079
sea don't account for.

915
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:37,639
Speaker 17: Anything, So it's basically just discrediting arguments that they can't refute.

916
01:00:37,639 --> 01:00:44,199
Speaker 2: At this point, Oh, I found him, doctor James Gilbert,

917
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:50,760
except that it's not his Twitter. He put a weird

918
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,760
name up, Bodacious Bulks.

919
01:00:56,719 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 5: Think how many hoops you have to jump through to

920
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:05,920
make like billions of years work as opposed to like

921
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,280
a crack in the earth happening over a night, which

922
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,400
we can prove empirically.

923
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:27,599
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, good point, John the au okays, which.

924
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,599
Speaker 5: There's multiple examples of.

925
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 2: By the way. All right, so people who are curious,

926
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:39,360
doctor James Gilbert, who I've hung out with many many times.

927
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:43,400
We used to go to the same church for a

928
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:50,239
while until he moved. He is a legit Orthodox archaeologist,

929
01:01:50,719 --> 01:01:52,679
So if you are interested and you want to get

930
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:54,920
more information on that, you can hit him up here

931
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,199
Bodacious Bulks with a you. And he's also a really

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good singer too. The way, he has a YouTube channel,

933
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but he doesn't have anything on it. He should be

934
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making YouTube videos like we need people like out here

935
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:15,719
doing orthodox biblical archaeology. But yeah, thank you for reminding

936
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,159
me of him, by the way, Zora appreciate that.

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01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:21,119
Speaker 5: Thank you.

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01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: Light a theosis. What's up? You want to I'm mute.

939
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,719
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Jay are you?

940
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Speaker 2: How are you?

941
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Speaker 18: I'm good?

942
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 6: Thanks for asking. A big fan of yours. I just

943
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,119
want to say, really appreciate your work. The other reason

944
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:48,440
I became Orthodox.

945
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 3: About a year ago.

946
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: So thank you many years to you, Bro. I appreciate that.

947
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,079
Speaker 6: So I had a quick question.

948
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw a.

949
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Speaker 19: Recent post from a father John Azar Claypool.

950
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is the defrougt schismatic lunatic, but no, I

951
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,159
don't keep up with his post.

952
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Speaker 7: Well, he made a recent post that would have been

953
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,239
today around seven or so, but he basically.

954
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:17,159
Speaker 19: Called you out on your quote condescending apologetics, and he

955
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,400
made a comment along the lines of he didn't know

956
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,159
that orthodox he even needed apologetics. I went down the

957
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:26,519
line of that's not true because that's basically what Jesus

958
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and the Apostles engaged in in their.

959
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 4: Time with them.

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Speaker 2: How many church fathers and.

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Speaker 7: So my question to you is how would you go about,

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01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,280
I guess, reinforcing the I don't want to say aggression

963
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,360
aggressive for lack of a better word, but the aggressive

964
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,760
approach to Orthodox apologetics.

965
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 6: And how can orthor bros As is the.

966
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,559
Speaker 19: Negative label given to people who you know, defend their

967
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:57,159
faith with zeal How can we justify that approach?

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Speaker 2: Just so, I mean, if you read, if you read

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01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,719
the Church Fathers, you don't have to go very far

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into Saint Jerome or into Saint John Damascus before you know,

971
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:11,760
or Affinacious writing against the Arians, or Saint Cyril writing

972
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,360
against Astorias. They call them morons, they call them idiots,

973
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,320
they call them demons, they call them devils. I mean

974
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:24,320
all of the you know, worst appellations you could think

975
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,760
of the Church Fathers. I mean St. Cyril Jerusalem says

976
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,840
hate all heretics in his catechetical lectures. So these are

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people who are ignorant, and you shouldn't be listening to

978
01:04:33,559 --> 01:04:37,519
schismatics anyway. Why are you following a schismatic defract guy

979
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:41,440
who follows a Zionist bishop who isn't even a bishop.

980
01:04:41,679 --> 01:04:45,320
It's just like, why do you guys even follow these people?

981
01:04:46,239 --> 01:04:49,440
Why waste your time with these people? Proverb says, debate

982
01:04:49,519 --> 01:04:52,039
your case with your neighbor, do not disclose the secret

983
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:56,239
to another. So no, it's not always wrong to debate.

984
01:04:57,079 --> 01:05:02,400
Paul disputes daily in the synagogues and in the marketplaces

985
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:26,360
with the Jews that Christ is the Messiah. Trying to

986
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:31,960
find that. You have to figure out what term is used,

987
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:45,280
because it's not dispute or debates. Reasoned Acts seventeen, as

988
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:48,840
was Paul's custom, he went in and reasoned with them.

989
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From the scriptures, some translations say disputed, some translations say debated.

990
01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:59,079
And he would do this for days, and there's multiple

991
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:02,360
instances of this in the Book of Acts. If you

992
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:05,679
read the Book of Syric, Syrah talks about reasoning and debating.

993
01:06:07,159 --> 01:06:10,840
If you read the Book of Ezekiel says that God

994
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,559
says to Ezekiel, I will give you arguments that none

995
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:24,239
of the Jews can refute. You will refute them. This

996
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:30,159
is an Ezekiel three in the Subtuasian translation, the house

997
01:06:30,199 --> 01:06:32,280
of Israel will be unwilling to listen to you, because

998
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,840
they are unwilling to listen to me. The house of

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,559
Israel is argumented, have been heardhearted. However, I have made

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your face strong against their faces. I will strengthen your

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01:06:42,519 --> 01:06:46,719
case against their arguments. Your arguments will be stronger than

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01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:57,199
a rock. Why didn't God say, oh, Ezekiel, do not debate.

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01:06:58,039 --> 01:07:03,000
That's what Ortho bros. Do Let's see, I was just

1004
01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:08,000
reading Wisdom of Syric at church the other day, by

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01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:10,880
the way, and I noticed, hey, it talks about debating

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01:07:14,679 --> 01:07:23,960
Serh eight. Because of wisdom, I have glory amongst the

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01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:26,719
multitudes and honor in the presence of the elders. Even

1008
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,840
though I am young, I will be found keen in judgment.

1009
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:32,519
I will be admired in the sight of rulers. When

1010
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:34,519
I am silent, they will wait for me, and when

1011
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:37,320
I speak, they will give heed. When I speak longer,

1012
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,880
they will put their hands over their mouths. I will

1013
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,840
have immortality because of her wisdom, and I will have

1014
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,519
an eternal remembrance for those who exist after me. I

1015
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:49,639
will govern peoples and nations will be in subject to me.

1016
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And by the way, I did a whole lecture through

1017
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,159
all of Zirich. We did three podcasts about five years

1018
01:08:11,159 --> 01:08:14,199
ago lecturing through the entirety of Zyric. There's other places

1019
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:18,880
too that talk about public debate and engagement and basically

1020
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,720
the opponents having to shut their mouths because they don't

1021
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,720
have any arguments. And Jesus has the same experience with

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,000
the Pharisees. So this idea that I mean that should

1023
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:31,239
tell you right there that you're talking to a ridiculous person.

1024
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:36,239
So even though Paul says that we tear down all

1025
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:40,279
the strongholds in the arguments against Christ, where's the wise.

1026
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:43,199
Whereas the disputer of this age God has made foolish

1027
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:45,920
the wisdom of this world always be ready to have

1028
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,600
an answer in a apologia for the hope that is

1029
01:08:48,640 --> 01:09:02,920
in you. Travis, what's up, Travis? What's up on you?

1030
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:05,079
Speaker 3: Hey?

1031
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:05,399
Speaker 11: Jay?

1032
01:09:07,039 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 20: Hey, I've been going to Greek Orthodox Church with my

1033
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,319
family just for a little bit now, but I just

1034
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:15,359
want to call in and ask.

1035
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 3: For the longest time, in my twenties, I.

1036
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 20: Consumed a lot of Jordan Peterson, all the lectures, and

1037
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,159
I made it through a decent bit of his recommended

1038
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:28,079
reading list. And I know that some of the obvious

1039
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:31,479
things about his interpretations on the Old Testament and some

1040
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,039
of those things I can kind of omit from my

1041
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,399
worldview and paradigm and stuff. But I'm just wondering, like,

1042
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,039
because a lot of the Youngian stuff and the Eric

1043
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:45,840
Norman a young student is all kind of interlating into

1044
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,960
what Jordan's saying all the time, And I'm just wondering

1045
01:09:48,039 --> 01:09:49,319
what your opinion.

1046
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:51,119
Speaker 3: Is on that, and if I should work to kind

1047
01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:51,840
of get that out of.

1048
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,159
Speaker 2: My You can go watch all my podcast where I

1049
01:09:55,279 --> 01:10:00,760
deconstruct and analyze Union stuff, and I've got probably eight

1050
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,399
podcasts on Jordan Peterson, and I mean very in depth

1051
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,039
ones where we go piece by piece, point by point

1052
01:10:07,239 --> 01:10:10,520
pros and cons. So I would say check those out,

1053
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,119
because I will do kind of a pre sup of

1054
01:10:12,199 --> 01:10:17,000
a lot of the Jungian stuff, which is oldest gnosticism.

1055
01:10:18,399 --> 01:10:21,680
But notice how unfamiliar and just how foreign the actual

1056
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,640
patristic writings are to these people. I mean, I remember

1057
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,720
off the top of my head, Sin Cerril of Jerusalem

1058
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,680
says hate all heretics in catechetical lectures. This is catechetical

1059
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:40,760
lecture six twenty. Now understand that in the Katechisis he's

1060
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:45,720
doing apologetics. He is refuting and defending the Orthodox Faith

1061
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,479
from all of these dumb heresies. And I think, if

1062
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,039
I remember it from here, he's talking about the Manicheans. Yeah,

1063
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,800
hate all the heretics, especially those who are named after

1064
01:10:53,880 --> 01:11:00,840
the Mania or the Manny. The Manicheans, they're duellists. Oh

1065
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,920
look at the evil Ortho bro saying, haitl heretics. I mean,

1066
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:13,680
does he not realize that what do you think against Eunomius?

1067
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:21,600
Is Against Eunomius by Basil is a two inner page

1068
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:27,960
book of apologetics against Eunomius. Against Eunomius by Saint Gregory

1069
01:11:28,039 --> 01:11:32,640
of Nissa is an eight inner page apologetic against Eunomius.

1070
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:38,840
Saint Athanasius is against the Arians is an apologetic against

1071
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:45,720
the Arians. So we have lunatics that claim to be

1072
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,520
Orthodox leaders and priests who are actually mentally ill people

1073
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,640
do not understand? Can you guys not recognize mentally ill people?

1074
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,920
To say that we don't do it apologetics is so

1075
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:06,119
fundamentally ignorant and stupid that anyone that even that. I mean,

1076
01:12:06,199 --> 01:12:10,880
it's just it's almost like people are just they just

1077
01:12:11,039 --> 01:12:14,479
gaslight people and rely on the power of gaslighting, just

1078
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,239
with the most insane level shit like, yeah, we don't

1079
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:21,199
do what Orthodoxy has never done apologetics. Oh okay, what

1080
01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:23,039
about all of these examples that I just gave from

1081
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:26,159
the church fathers. Yeah, that's not apologetics, just gaslighting. I mean,

1082
01:12:26,199 --> 01:12:28,960
that's all I can imagine. I mean, just to be

1083
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:34,439
so fundamentally ignorant and stupid, to be so actually unaware

1084
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:40,520
of like I mean, guys. I've been reading The Church Fathers,

1085
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,239
as you can see with the sticky notes here, for

1086
01:12:44,079 --> 01:12:47,520
twenty five years. I started in around the year two

1087
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,079
thousands when I got this Church father set. So I've

1088
01:12:51,119 --> 01:12:54,880
been reading the Church father for twenty five years. They

1089
01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:00,279
are absolutely vicious and nasty, with heretics, most of them.

1090
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:07,439
And when I am one fourth as nasty and vicious,

1091
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:12,279
these people lose their minds. Why because everybody has such

1092
01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:16,760
a bunch of skittles soymn, especially the church man. The

1093
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:20,000
church is the most gay cucked thing ever. Dude, It's

1094
01:13:20,079 --> 01:13:23,800
so crazy. All the churches, by the way, the Orthodox

1095
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,720
Church is the least. But you understanding that person isn't

1096
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,720
even Orthodox, and yet we have thousands ten He has

1097
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,319
like ten thousand followers. All he does is talk about

1098
01:13:35,319 --> 01:13:37,920
me all day long. He's a defroct schismatic openly on

1099
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,479
his website and people have noticed thetain. They don't care.

1100
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,680
Oh no, I want to hear what he says. We

1101
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:49,359
must hear out and listen to every lunatic, every schismatic,

1102
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,720
every schizo must have their day. We must hear them

1103
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,600
all out. All of them must be visually and absolutely refuted,

1104
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,600
every single day everybody, No, not everybody, but he deserves

1105
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,479
a hearing. Have you not figured this out? Frankish Malchite

1106
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,439
twenty dollars. The Baptist idea of succession of doctrine is ridiculous.

1107
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,840
They will claim a descent from the Polyitians and the

1108
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,720
Boga Mills. The Politians were Unitarians and proto Islamic, and

1109
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,720
the Boga Mills believe that Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel.

1110
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,359
They all rooted in the hatred of Christ Church exactly.

1111
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:27,680
That's exactly what when I I one time, when I

1112
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,840
was a Calvinist, there was a landmark Baptist church here

1113
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,560
in my hometown, and I went to visited it because

1114
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:37,000
there weren't a whole lot of Calvinist options, right. I

1115
01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:41,359
think we had two Calvinist options that were openly Calvinists, right,

1116
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:46,039
not pcusa. But and so I went only went there

1117
01:14:46,079 --> 01:14:47,960
like two times. But I went to a landmark Baptist

1118
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:49,560
church to see what they're all about. And the guy

1119
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,279
gave me the trail of blood. I've still got my

1120
01:14:51,359 --> 01:14:53,199
trail of blood right there. I can see it over

1121
01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:59,319
on my shelf. And I opened it up. And even

1122
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,720
in the year I don't know. That was like two

1123
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,680
thousand and one, two thousand, around the same time as

1124
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,239
I got the church Father's set. Even then, I knew

1125
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:11,000
that those were anti Trinitarian groups, and so I folded

1126
01:15:11,079 --> 01:15:13,960
out the Trail of Blood thing and I asked the pastor,

1127
01:15:15,319 --> 01:15:19,720
Brother David Hit, I said, how are you linking yourself

1128
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,800
to these anti Trinitarian groups? And he said, Brother, they

1129
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:28,039
love Jesus and that's what matters, and they weren't part

1130
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:32,800
of the apostate horror of Rome. That was his answer.

1131
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,760
I was like, so it's more important to be anti

1132
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:44,279
Trinitarian and against Rome than to actually have Trinitarian teat

1133
01:15:44,319 --> 01:15:46,039
And I just thought that was so crazy and I

1134
01:15:46,119 --> 01:15:50,720
never went back. So, I mean, this is stuff that

1135
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:52,680
I'm not trying to be arrogant, but like I mean,

1136
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,720
I figured this stuff out in the year two thousand.

1137
01:15:55,079 --> 01:15:59,079
Come on, guys, catch up. B rizzal five dollars. Valhalla

1138
01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:03,239
is a veteran. The guy that does the channel. Jay

1139
01:16:03,319 --> 01:16:11,920
Dyer is not a veteran. Oh, are you talking about

1140
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,119
me or his buddy his I think you mean his buddy.

1141
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:18,479
His buddy is not a VAT, but he's Nate's longtime

1142
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,039
friend and seemingly a good dude. Okay, you're telling about

1143
01:16:21,039 --> 01:16:27,199
the two guys that do that that geopolitics channel. Oh yeah,

1144
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,079
Darth Jeff twenty dollars. Make Christmas, Janmackris. Do you guys,

1145
01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:33,079
by the way, real Christmas is coming up next week

1146
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:38,199
or in January seventh? Happy? Uh, fake papal Christmas to everybody,

1147
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,560
Zane ten dollars. This is all subject. But have you

1148
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,279
read gene Wolf's Book of the Sun new Son? No,

1149
01:16:47,399 --> 01:16:48,159
I've never heard of it.

1150
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 11: On what that is?

1151
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,319
Speaker 2: I suggest it if you like sci fi, fantasy and philosophy.

1152
01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:57,560
I mean, I'm open to that. The problem is that

1153
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,359
so much of that shits woke, like sci fi and

1154
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:05,760
fantasy is just like the gateway to all this woke

1155
01:17:08,079 --> 01:17:12,680
nonsense that we have. I mean, I like, like older

1156
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,359
you know, I was planning to read William Gibson's Neuromancer next.

1157
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,039
I would like to eventually get The snow Crash because

1158
01:17:21,079 --> 01:17:24,680
that's big in Silicon Valley. But I'm open to, you know,

1159
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:35,359
sci fi that isn't just fake and gay. Darth Jeff

1160
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five dollars. They will just say carry your cross, which

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01:17:41,039 --> 01:17:43,520
is their way of being pious and saying, shut the

1162
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,239
f up? Do you mean the piety signalers? Who do

1163
01:17:46,279 --> 01:17:57,399
you mean? Anonymous? Five dollars? The dude was asking if

1164
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,520
Adam and Eve would have died before they ate the

1165
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,640
tree of missing the whole point of imagery. Oh, is

1166
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,359
that what he meant? No, they wouldn't have died. It

1167
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:10,439
represents commune with God. It is not a literal immortality dispenser.

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01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,760
Separation from God is what brings death exactly. I agree

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01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,800
with you, an mos yea Cory centers uh sends five

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01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,279
dollars and I don't. I can't pull up a YouTube

1171
01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:26,880
link from from here. Dude. Here is the link and

1172
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,479
the timestamp is that fifty six hours or fifty six

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01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:35,960
minutes in? It shows that she never confirmed who he saw.

1174
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,560
That you're missing the whole point, dude. You want a

1175
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,720
debate over whether Candace confirmed every detail of her Dude,

1176
01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:48,800
the dude is a con man and not credible, so

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01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,800
she should have vetted the con man. Corey, that's the point.

1178
01:18:56,199 --> 01:18:58,159
You just want y'all want to play word games. Well,

1179
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:01,640
Candace didn't technically say that. She doesn't have to technically

1180
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,239
say that everything he's saying is correct. And Alex didn't

1181
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,960
say that. He said that. She said everything Mitch said

1182
01:19:07,039 --> 01:19:14,319
was correct the metaversees in snow Crash. I knew, I

1183
01:19:14,359 --> 01:19:16,720
knew that. Yeah, how do you join the open call?

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:17,079
Speaker 3: Uh?

1185
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,279
Speaker 2: Guys, come on, if you go to the link in

1186
01:19:21,359 --> 01:19:25,479
the show description, you call in on Twitter. We've been

1187
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,479
doing it the same way for almost ten years. You guys,

1188
01:19:29,239 --> 01:19:34,800
I'm you dude, I can't. I can't read all that

1189
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,359
gibberish as you're handle. What's up? Man, I'm you.

1190
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:42,079
Speaker 6: Hello?

1191
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 5: Uh?

1192
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So.

1193
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: Do you know who capturing Christianity is?

1194
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: Of course?

1195
01:19:53,359 --> 01:19:56,279
Speaker 21: Yeah, so him and like another like one of the

1196
01:19:56,359 --> 01:20:01,560
top philosophers or Catholicism. We're talking about presuppositionalism and they

1197
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,279
were talking about how you don't need God for knowledge,

1198
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:09,079
and then they were bringing up foundationalism and like, how

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you have basic beliefs.

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Speaker 6: What would be your critique of the idea, because I

1201
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:12,359
know it's retarded.

1202
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:18,039
Speaker 2: I've probably got fifteen podcasts critiquing foundationalism, usually the stuff

1203
01:20:18,079 --> 01:20:21,359
that I do with FDA. So I'm not gonna. I can't.

1204
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,760
I don't have the energy right now to rehearse all

1205
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,239
of that. So if you go to Patristic faith and

1206
01:20:33,159 --> 01:20:36,960
you see this playlist here tag. This is a twenty

1207
01:20:37,039 --> 01:20:40,119
two video playlist that will answer all of your questions.

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01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:57,560
Jack con what's up? Jay treats the spot he's in

1209
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:04,000
temporarily as apps elude truth as if no, So you

1210
01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:07,680
don't even understand that that's just a stupid, low tier

1211
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:12,199
subjectivist argument. You changed your mind before, so how do

1212
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:16,840
you know you're right now? Everybody changes their mind, so

1213
01:21:17,399 --> 01:21:20,640
then everything would be subjective because everybody's as someone changed

1214
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,000
their mind. It's just a stupid argument. I'm mute, Jakhn,

1215
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:26,319
you want to talk or not? Okay? Goodbye?

1216
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 5: Ye Vic?

1217
01:21:28,079 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 2: What's up? Anonymous?

1218
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 3: No?

1219
01:21:31,119 --> 01:21:36,079
Speaker 2: We did that? What's up?

1220
01:21:37,359 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 3: What's something?

1221
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: Man?

1222
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 6: Just quickly? I I'm looking for a little bit of

1223
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,239
advice on literature.

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Speaker 18: I won't give you the fullback story, but I come

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01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:48,199
from a Protestant background and I've just come to the

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01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:52,000
understanding that orthodoxy is the way to go. I've started

1227
01:21:52,039 --> 01:21:54,640
reading Surf and Rose, which has been fantastic. But I

1228
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,399
saw a clip of you and you were talking about what.

1229
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,000
I saw a clip of you and you would talk

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01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:05,399
talking about a clip okay, yeah, the Westminster Confession or something,

1231
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,319
and I realized that I haven't even done my own

1232
01:22:07,359 --> 01:22:11,359
legwork inside Protestantism. So I just wondered if you could

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direct me into I suppose a holistic view of the

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Church and its history.

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Speaker 2: H You mean, really, the only thing I could recommend

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01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,840
for that is a book? Is that is that? Okay?

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01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:32,239
Are you talking about videos?

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,159
Speaker 6: That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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01:22:34,159 --> 01:22:34,199
Speaker 5: No.

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01:22:34,359 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to read the Yeah? Perfect? So you

1241
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,479
want to read the first two or three volumes of

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01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:45,880
euroslav Pelican's book Christian and the Catholic Tradition Pelican P. E.

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01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:50,439
L I K K A N Y. And he has

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01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:55,279
a five volume set called the Christian Tradition. You don't

1245
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,399
need to even worry about the last two volumes, they're retarded.

1246
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,079
All you need to do is read the first three

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01:23:01,159 --> 01:23:05,319
volumes because that deals with the first thousand years. If

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01:23:05,359 --> 01:23:07,800
you want to read the volume fours, Reformation, you can.

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01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 6: Okay, wonderful.

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01:23:10,359 --> 01:23:12,560
Speaker 18: Also, I thought that you pointed to your bookshelf and

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01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,199
you're referring to the Church Fathers.

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Speaker 6: Is that something that you recommend for most people to

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01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:20,479
read or uh?

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01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really entirely up to you. I would

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01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,840
recommend everybody be familiar with some of the Church Fathers

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01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,560
for sure. Like I would definitely read the Orations of

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01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,119
Saint Gregor of nazian Zeus. I would read on the

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01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:32,520
Holy Spirit by Saint Basil, I would read on the

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Incarnation by Saint Anthonasius. I would read on Christian Doctrine

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01:23:36,319 --> 01:23:38,720
Bia Saint Augustine. You know those are all, you know,

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01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:39,760
necessary reads.

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Speaker 6: Let's see Athanasius, Basil, and Augustin.

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01:23:48,319 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are kind of like, you know, classic sort

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01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:53,800
of starting points in the Church Fathers.

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Speaker 6: Fantastic man, Thanks so much.

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01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:04,520
Speaker 2: Sure, good questions, but I appreciate that. RDLT guys, are

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01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,680
you excited for more gaming streams? I noticed the we

1268
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,439
got a pretty big drop off when we went from

1269
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:17,399
Red Dead Redemption to Red Dead Redemption Round two. We

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01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:21,199
went from twenty one twenty two thousand people to twelve thousand,

1271
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,600
So I'm even though I thought Round two was still

1272
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,319
pretty funny, everybody seemed to have a lot of laughs.

1273
01:24:29,239 --> 01:24:35,159
We had drunk Reverend Jordan Peterson in the second stream,

1274
01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:38,760
which was pretty funny. But I think maybe we should

1275
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,319
move on because I didn't realize that was such a vast,

1276
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,239
open world game of hundreds of hours. We can always

1277
01:24:45,279 --> 01:24:49,920
come back to it, but the number two recommended gaming

1278
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:54,600
stream was Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven. So maybe we'll try

1279
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,760
that next and I will eventually get a cam for

1280
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:02,239
doing that if we continue to do those. I mean,

1281
01:25:02,279 --> 01:25:04,359
I'm open to a round three of red de redemption.

1282
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,640
But we only had half of the audience show up,

1283
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,640
so our d LT. What's up? Man, I'm you.

1284
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 6: Aj can hear me?

1285
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,399
Speaker 22: So I've been inquiring Orthodox for about a year now.

1286
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,000
I just have had a lot of personal struggles trying

1287
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,279
to get into the church. But I've got a friend

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01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:35,600
who rejects the Orthodox Church and pretty much everything that

1289
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,199
comes along with it. Like he's very Protestant, and he

1290
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,840
says often that he's he only submits to Christ.

1291
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 3: Is there a good way to answer this or a

1292
01:25:47,279 --> 01:25:48,239
good argument against this?

1293
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: Well, Paul says, if they will not hear the church,

1294
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,760
then cast them out. Jesus says, he who hears you

1295
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,159
hear's me. So there's no such thing as Jesus alone

1296
01:25:59,239 --> 01:26:02,319
without church in history, Paul says, not the for sake

1297
01:26:02,359 --> 01:26:07,479
the assembling together. So the entire history of two thousand

1298
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,960
years of the church being discarded for I just followed

1299
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,800
Jesus it's really just a form of idolatry. So I

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01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,359
would point out to him that the only way to

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01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:22,079
know Jesus is through the teaching of the historical body

1302
01:26:22,119 --> 01:26:23,920
that he established. Caleb, what something?

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01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:31,119
Speaker 4: Hell?

1304
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:39,039
Speaker 2: Hey, do you have a good book that is like

1305
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:43,880
the Life of Saint Athanasius? I don't know off the

1306
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:49,039
top of my head. No, okay, sorry, I mean I

1307
01:26:49,239 --> 01:26:55,560
typically focus on the theology of athenations specifically. There might

1308
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,520
be some book on that. I just don't know what

1309
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:08,039
it would be. Cam, what's up? Zay says for ten dollars,

1310
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:11,880
the book is not woke. From what I remember, it

1311
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,720
was written in the eighties. It's a bit older. I

1312
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,399
agree with you. I hate woke, faking gay sci fi.

1313
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,279
This is actually good because it's hard to find good

1314
01:27:20,399 --> 01:27:23,640
sci fi exactly. And what was the name of it?

1315
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:33,720
Let me scroll back up the Book of the New Son.

1316
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:34,399
What's up?

1317
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 7: Man?

1318
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,199
Speaker 2: I'm you? Cam? Are you talk or not?

1319
01:27:37,319 --> 01:27:38,279
Speaker 6: Oh? My fault, my fault.

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01:27:39,079 --> 01:27:40,399
Speaker 4: Thanks thanks for having me.

1321
01:27:41,239 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 23: I've been in a recent ongoing debate with some homies.

1322
01:27:45,039 --> 01:27:49,840
It's kind of a pretty different arguments on the best.

1323
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 3: Mode to convert people or to get people to start.

1324
01:27:53,399 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 2: Coming to church. And Uh, the first mode is.

1325
01:27:59,359 --> 01:28:03,079
Speaker 23: This person believe that we should start showing people more

1326
01:28:03,239 --> 01:28:06,760
relics and things like that, try to explain.

1327
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 2: Like the Shroud of Tora and get people.

1328
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 23: To I guess experience that awe and wonder that comes

1329
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:20,560
with some of the relics. The next argument is, unfortunately

1330
01:28:21,359 --> 01:28:26,039
he doesn't do it very good. The subject matter a justice,

1331
01:28:26,079 --> 01:28:30,079
but he tries to use the tag and like kind

1332
01:28:30,119 --> 01:28:33,159
of beating people into a philosophical corner.

1333
01:28:33,319 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 6: Then to onelad.

1334
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: Christianity, and then I argue.

1335
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 23: For these people are scientific rationalists, their religion is psychology.

1336
01:28:47,319 --> 01:28:50,319
So I think it's probably best to like do one

1337
01:28:50,399 --> 01:28:54,039
on ones where you're kind of speaking in their trauma

1338
01:28:54,119 --> 01:28:57,960
filled language of psychology to them and getting them to

1339
01:28:58,279 --> 01:29:04,560
unpack what they're ups are with Christianity and then apply apologetics.

1340
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could work. I mean I think that what

1341
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:12,439
you should do. My recommendation would be taylor the style

1342
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,039
to the person. So, if these are people that you

1343
01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:17,680
know and it sounds like these are circles of people

1344
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,079
that are familiar with each other, like tailor it to

1345
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,359
what that person is like and into right, So, if

1346
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:26,720
this is a person who's an artist and they're into esthetics.

1347
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:30,800
Well send them some beautiful Orthodox chant and icons and

1348
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,800
get them to come to the liturgy and appreciate it esthetically. Okay,

1349
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,079
they're not going to care about tag and philosophy arguments.

1350
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,159
If it's a dude that's into philosophy, he's gonna like

1351
01:29:40,199 --> 01:29:44,760
that stuff, right. So, Taylor, your evangelism, as Paul says,

1352
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,720
I become all things to all men. So I think

1353
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,840
it helps to know the person in question better than

1354
01:29:51,039 --> 01:29:54,359
trying to like, there's not one size fits all. Like

1355
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:56,520
Banantium said earlier, a lot of people who came to

1356
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,359
this channel were interested in geopolitical stuff. They were interested

1357
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:04,000
in Hollywood movie symbolism, and then they saw, oh he

1358
01:30:04,079 --> 01:30:05,520
also talks about his Ordsdox stuff.

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01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 24: What is that?

1360
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 2: So whatever works, man, And I don't mean that in

1361
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:25,000
the megachurch sense, Hyphassas, what's up? JB. Peltis is five dollars? Hey,

1362
01:30:25,039 --> 01:30:25,359
what's up?

1363
01:30:27,279 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 5: Can you hear me?

1364
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:29,239
Speaker 2: Okay?

1365
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,520
Speaker 25: Yeah, So I've been going through your I purchased your

1366
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,960
Tragedy and Hope series about seven years ago. I'm doing

1367
01:30:38,039 --> 01:30:41,239
a critique of it and I have I have six

1368
01:30:41,399 --> 01:30:47,000
questions specifically about your theory of the tragedy and hope theory,

1369
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and the.

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Speaker 2: First one was my theory of the theory. What do

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you mean the theory of.

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Speaker 25: The Anglo American establishment and the I At the end

1373
01:30:59,039 --> 01:31:04,720
of quentlyand book, he ends before the civil rights legislation

1374
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,000
of the Kennedys, and he doesn't even mention Tammany Hall.

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01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 3: How would the civil rights legislation.

1376
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,199
Speaker 25: And Tammany Hall, It's history with al Smouth, Fdr Joseph P.

1377
01:31:14,359 --> 01:31:17,640
Kennedy going up into the Kennedy basically the royal family

1378
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,520
of Catholics in America. How does that comport with the

1379
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:23,359
Anglo American establishment theory?

1380
01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:28,159
Speaker 2: So I don't think there is an Anglo establishment theory.

1381
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:31,920
I think he's just analyzing the power structure in the

1382
01:31:32,039 --> 01:31:35,800
nineteen sixties as it existed at that time. So certainly

1383
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things after that time came to the fore, like the

1384
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Wasp Zionist Alliance, which didn't really exist in Quickly's days,

1385
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,399
So he didn't really focus on it. And also he

1386
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,800
could have just not been honest about it. He could

1387
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,840
have been suppressing that side of it, because he focuses

1388
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:55,840
more on Rockefellers in that angle of it more so

1389
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,279
than he does Zionists, but also from the American respect

1390
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of designers, probably didn't have as much influence and control

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as they would have in the succeeding decades after the

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nineteen sixties, and particularly things like the Civil Rights movement,

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you know, did benefit the Zionists, for example. So I

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don't I don't see that that's incompatible with what you're

1395
01:32:17,359 --> 01:32:18,159
calling the theory.

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Speaker 25: Well, it's the Tammany Hall Kennedy platform was specifically to

1397
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benefit Irish and Italian Roman Catholics. And how how he's

1398
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:30,880
trying and you and Alice Jones are trying to portray

1399
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,560
some Anglo American establishment theory given that the you know,

1400
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the Tammany Hall regime moving up from al Smith to

1401
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:40,760
FDR and the Kennedy family is very clearly.

1402
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,319
Speaker 2: So the Kennedy's really controlled America. As I was arguing,

1403
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,920
oh that's a fact, that's absolute fact. It's retarded to

1404
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:52,840
you and continue goodbye number two, good bye.

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01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,079
Speaker 3: You melt down again.

1406
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 2: I didn't melt down. It's just too stupid. Irish Catholics

1407
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,680
are really controlling them Erica. Are you serious? Okay? I

1408
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,279
think that got that's got to be a troll. He's

1409
01:33:04,279 --> 01:33:10,800
gotta be joking Tyndall, what's up? That's a new one

1410
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,119
on me, right there? Have you seen the We used

1411
01:33:13,159 --> 01:33:21,000
to joke about the meme what's the merchant? The merchant meme?

1412
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But now it's this. This was a joke I made

1413
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:33,039
like ten years ago where instead of a certain type

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of person, it's another type of person. So this is

1415
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:47,000
this guy's theory, right, that's the Irish Kennedy control of America. Yeah, sure, yeah,

1416
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,720
everybody believes that one monique seventy three dollars. I got

1417
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:51,600
a quartion. What's your best advice for dealing with the

1418
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,760
persecution of Christian for Christian beliefs, Well, do your best

1419
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,840
to ask God to give you love for your enemies.

1420
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That is the hardest thing in this life is to

1421
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,920
love our enemies. That's hard. It doesn't mean by the

1422
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:09,239
way that you become a matt that people just walk

1423
01:34:09,319 --> 01:34:12,239
all over you. It means that even in the midst

1424
01:34:12,279 --> 01:34:17,520
of opposition, you pray and hope for those people to repent.

1425
01:34:18,039 --> 01:34:20,479
It does not mean that you let them just you know,

1426
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:28,279
grape you and do whatever they want to you. And

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01:34:28,359 --> 01:34:30,560
it's like he presents it like this is you're an

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01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,560
Alex Jones's theory. It's doctor Carroll Quigley is writing from

1429
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:39,760
the CFR archives. He's writing from the archives of the Rockefellers. Like,

1430
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but no, actually it's the Kennedys and the Catholics that

1431
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:49,960
control America. I mean like And then he says, I

1432
01:34:50,079 --> 01:34:52,359
melted down just because I said his position was retarded.

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01:34:52,399 --> 01:34:53,359
What's up, Tendall? What's up?

1434
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:55,079
Speaker 3: Hey?

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01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:56,359
Speaker 2: J First off, how are you?

1436
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 5: Man?

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01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm trying to cover for the Kennedy's because

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01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,399
I secretly worked for RF, secretly work for R Kate.

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01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 8: You're deep.

1440
01:35:06,399 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 2: You're deep in the New World Order, man.

1441
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 8: But anyways, that guy asked about how to hind.

1442
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,279
Speaker 2: Of you cut out? Repeat it that you cut out?

1443
01:35:17,359 --> 01:35:17,800
Repeat it.

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01:35:19,319 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 8: My bad guys, can you hear me right now?

1445
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 2: Just repeat the question quick.

1446
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 8: So basically, a guy was asking you about how to

1447
01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:30,760
get people to come to church, and you said, what

1448
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,159
Paul would say is you have to become like the

1449
01:35:33,279 --> 01:35:36,159
person in a way so you can give them a

1450
01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:37,119
little bit of what you have.

1451
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Speaker 2: And that's totally right.

1452
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Speaker 8: But another thing that popped in my mind was John

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chapter six, when Jesus fed the people the day before

1454
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and then they followed him all the way across the

1455
01:35:49,199 --> 01:35:51,760
river to try to find him the next day. But

1456
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,720
they didn't want to find him to listen to his miracles.

1457
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They they wanted to follow him to get fed again food.

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And that's what a lot of these churches do with

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like the poor people, is they can get people to

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01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,560
come to their church just for food, and they're able

1461
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to preach to the poor with food. Sure, because they

1462
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gave them food, even though that wasn't the point of

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01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:16,159
Jesus's miracle, that's one way.

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Speaker 2: That they brought him in. Yeah, a lot of Orthodox

1465
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:24,039
churches offer meals, you know, after liturgy as well, and

1466
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absolutely that's definitely a great idea Foreign Thornton Shield twenty dollars.

1467
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:36,479
Daniel Hogikachu wants a pan Islamic unity in your estimation

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01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,760
of the current geolitical situation, does that seem like a

1469
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:44,680
losing battle. Yeah, there's no way those goober tribes are

1470
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,079
all gonna unite. I mean, the CII recognized this like

1471
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:51,800
seventy years ago. The Gulf States normalized with Israel and

1472
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:56,920
they fund the spreadablehabism in Islam worldwide. Yeah, but that

1473
01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:02,039
doesn't mean they're all going to unite. I mean, Islam

1474
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is the broom of Zionism and Judaism. So in that sense,

1475
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you're correct. But I don't know that there's going to

1476
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:10,880
be any Pan Islamic unity. I mean, that's just the

1477
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,119
spirit of Antichrist is successful in uniting everybody, which is

1478
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a possibility because Islam is Antichrist as well. So I

1479
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:27,680
suppose that's possible. Drew. What's up, dude.

1480
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,159
Speaker 6: I saw the funniest ship the other day and it

1481
01:37:30,279 --> 01:37:31,039
made me think of you.

1482
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:32,239
Speaker 3: I was.

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01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:37,279
Speaker 26: I was an Olpaso over Christmas, and I went downtown

1484
01:37:37,319 --> 01:37:40,800
with my girlfriend and I come around the corner and

1485
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:46,880
there's a group of black Hebrew Israelite people, your people,

1486
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:53,600
and they're doing they're doing their retard apologetics to a.

1487
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 2: Group of that's what you call it, because you're racist.

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That's all you got, man, That's all you got because

1489
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you race, You eat a mite and you ain't got

1490
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no orgaments.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, dude.

1492
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 27: So they're doing their apologetic they're doing their apologetics through

1493
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:16,159
a translator to these like four foot three Guatemalan illegal immigrants.

1494
01:38:17,119 --> 01:38:20,279
Speaker 2: And the immigrants what to do we like to convince

1495
01:38:20,359 --> 01:38:20,720
them of what?

1496
01:38:21,119 --> 01:38:24,119
Speaker 6: Like I only I was only there.

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01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,399
Speaker 26: For like thirty seconds because I started laughing so hard

1498
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that it was causing a scene, and my girlfriend was like,

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we gotta go.

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Speaker 6: But the part I heard was.

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01:38:34,119 --> 01:38:37,359
Speaker 27: They were trying to convince these Guatemalans that Jesus was black.

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01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,439
And dude, it is so funny to me that even

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01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:43,560
like the four foot three, you.

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01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 2: Know, even a Guatemalan, a simple, a simple, a simple

1505
01:38:48,319 --> 01:38:52,199
coffee picker man understands that stupid that. Yeah, he was going,

1506
01:38:52,279 --> 01:38:56,560
no negro, No, that's hilarious.

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01:38:57,079 --> 01:38:58,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all I got, Jake.

1508
01:38:58,279 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 2: Somebody had uploaded a recent uh, because we've only had

1509
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:07,600
a few golden moments of these goofballs calling in and

1510
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:16,359
I thought it was a recent clip. Let's say if

1511
01:39:16,359 --> 01:39:23,720
we can find it, because this is that from four

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01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:28,079
days ago, Black Keeper Israelites. I mean, there's a bunch

1513
01:39:28,119 --> 01:39:31,399
of these. Here's one right here. This one's good.

1514
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm Captain tazariak SHPK. We teach that in North, Central

1515
01:39:38,039 --> 01:39:41,079
and South America that the original children of the book

1516
01:39:41,279 --> 01:39:43,800
are the Blacks, Hispanish and Native Indians. Now, of course

1517
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,800
we're scattered across the four corners.

1518
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,520
Speaker 2: So we are like in Africa, Europe and stuff like that.

1519
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,880
We also teach that the people This one is funny

1520
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:55,000
because it gets it gets heated, and he immediately says,

1521
01:39:55,079 --> 01:39:57,439
you racist, that's why you that's why you're making that

1522
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:01,439
Oriument call you racist while you interrupted be you right,

1523
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,399
That's all he does. Like the whole the whole debate

1524
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:07,479
is just him saying racious. Monique, I appreciate that question,

1525
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:11,479
but I mean that quertion. Uh, it's just really hard

1526
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,640
to deal with. I mean when you say deal with persecution,

1527
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,359
I mean does that just mean how do I handle it?

1528
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,000
Or do you mean, like what do we do with

1529
01:40:21,159 --> 01:40:26,520
the Nigerians being Christians in Nigeria being persecuted? We get

1530
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:32,920
more Nicki minajes, right, we get more Nicki minaj That's

1531
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:38,239
what we need, more and more of good God. The

1532
01:40:38,319 --> 01:40:41,039
father five dollars, my pimp, Bishop says that you don't

1533
01:40:41,079 --> 01:40:44,039
want no trail of blood. That's the evidence right there.

1534
01:40:44,359 --> 01:40:46,800
That's yeah, he talking about he laying down the threats

1535
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,319
against the ops, right he talking about trailer blood. That's

1536
01:40:50,359 --> 01:40:53,680
what's about to happen when you come against me, when

1537
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,079
you fight the Emperor's of Wyxantium, you about to see

1538
01:40:57,119 --> 01:41:00,560
a trail of blood. Anonymous five dollars and we already

1539
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:07,560
did that. M all right, we're about to get down

1540
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:12,199
to the line here, but about to wind it up. Isaac,

1541
01:41:12,239 --> 01:41:19,399
what's up? I'm getting tired. H Hello, you're still taking questions.

1542
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,840
I'm only taking questions. What's up?

1543
01:41:22,039 --> 01:41:22,399
Speaker 11: All right?

1544
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 6: All right, cool man?

1545
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 10: What you got to say about people who be saying

1546
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:29,159
kids a deck is actively Jesus?

1547
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:35,520
Speaker 2: Uh? No, that's crazy. It's in the Orthodox tradition, Malkis

1548
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,439
the deck is some people say it's one of the

1549
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,640
sons of Adam, right, or what do you mean, one

1550
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,560
of the sons of Noah? I think that's that's some

1551
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:50,079
in the Orthodox tradition. Sur from Hamilton argues that, but, uh,

1552
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,479
it's not Jesus because he's a specific person whose priesthood

1553
01:41:56,520 --> 01:42:02,680
symbolizes Jesus. So when it says that he's of no

1554
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,319
like we don't know his lineage, it's just making an

1555
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:09,880
analogy between the fact that we don't know his origin

1556
01:42:10,319 --> 01:42:13,600
or where he got that priesthood in the same way

1557
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,960
that jesus priesthood is from heaven. It's not saying that

1558
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,039
because we don't have a list of his priesthood. That is,

1559
01:42:20,199 --> 01:42:24,760
Jesus Melchizidic is a type of Christ. Well, you can't

1560
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,920
be a type of Christ. If you are Christ, Christ

1561
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,199
isn't gonna be a type of himself. So Hebrews is

1562
01:42:31,279 --> 01:42:35,920
saying that because he there's details unknown about him, he's

1563
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:40,560
kind of a mysterious figure, that his priesthood is a

1564
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:48,039
type of Christ priesthood. And in the Orthodox Church he

1565
01:42:48,760 --> 01:43:02,039
has his own icon. He's not Jesus, he's milchizidic. If

1566
01:43:02,079 --> 01:43:06,439
he was Jesus, he would he would be Jesus. But

1567
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:10,439
he has his own icon because he's malchisida.

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01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 7: Uh.

1569
01:43:20,119 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 2: Let's see last couple questions here. I'm getting tired. Will.

1570
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:26,520
What's up? Will? Why did you come out on stranger things?

1571
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:30,720
You came out of the closet. Will, you found your

1572
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:33,239
inner skills power and you came out the closet to

1573
01:43:33,319 --> 01:43:37,239
take down Vecna Joe Jay? What's up?

1574
01:43:37,319 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 5: Man?

1575
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: What's up?

1576
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 24: I just had a quick question about the Orthodoxy, if

1577
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:45,479
that's all right? Forgive me if this sounds basic, But

1578
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,720
is there like an infallible list of which councils are infallible?

1579
01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 2: No, I don't have the same epistemology as a Roman Catholic.

1580
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:57,359
So if you're trying to do it too quoque on me.

1581
01:43:57,520 --> 01:44:00,000
That's not gonna work, okay, because this was.

1582
01:44:00,159 --> 01:44:03,359
Speaker 24: Just something that I've been hearing from Protestants trying to

1583
01:44:03,399 --> 01:44:07,640
refew like Orthodoxy, and they were saying, like, you need

1584
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:11,359
a infallible list of infallible councils, or else we don't

1585
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:13,319
really know, or else you run why do.

1586
01:44:13,399 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 2: I need the Well?

1587
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,319
Speaker 24: In my mind, I was thinking it was similar to

1588
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:21,199
the logical problem that Protestants run into when they say

1589
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:25,640
with the can of Scripture, because they say it's an

1590
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,000
infallible collection of infallible books.

1591
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

1592
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's two different it's confusing, two different questions, right,

1593
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:39,720
So it's not we're not arguing that having an infallible

1594
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:45,880
list gives you certitude about the infallible Canons. The whole

1595
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,840
reason we raised that question against the Roman Catholics is

1596
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:54,760
because Roman Catholics treat infallibility as an epistemic principle that

1597
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,359
they think will give them certitude. So we're just simply

1598
01:44:57,399 --> 01:45:00,560
pointing out that that's a it's back in the question

1599
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,880
because how do I know? You're just moving the problem

1600
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,720
back a step. How do I know that this list

1601
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:10,159
of the infallible Roman Catholic dogmas is infallible. Okay, that's

1602
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:14,279
a critique of that paradigm. If I have a different

1603
01:45:14,359 --> 01:45:18,479
paradigm where I'm not expecting there to be that type

1604
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,399
of a thing, I'm not going to be subject to

1605
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,840
that critique. So I'm arguing, we're arguing that the Orthodox

1606
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:28,479
paradigm is a totally different paradigm in terms of knowledge

1607
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:33,920
and epistemology. The argument between the Roman, the Protestant, and

1608
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,800
the Orthodox is not about individual certitude. It's a different question.

1609
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,159
It's a question of what are the means that the

1610
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:45,199
Holy Spirit uses in history to give believers knowledge of

1611
01:45:45,279 --> 01:45:49,680
doctrine and God. The Roman Catholic says it's you and

1612
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:53,600
the papal documents. The protest says it's you and the Bible.

1613
01:45:54,159 --> 01:45:56,560
The Orthodox says it's you and the councils and the

1614
01:45:56,640 --> 01:46:00,560
Church fathers and the Bible, et cetera. Right, So where

1615
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:06,119
we are differing is the means, and the question then becomes, okay, well,

1616
01:46:06,399 --> 01:46:09,800
what was the means that the Church used in the

1617
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,800
last two thousand years to know God and to know

1618
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,880
true doctrine. If the means of the Protestant Church are false,

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the means of Romancallity Church are false and the means

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01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,000
the Orthodox Church are correct and in line with the history,

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01:46:23,279 --> 01:46:25,119
then we know that the Orthodox Church is the Church

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01:46:25,159 --> 01:46:28,479
of history. That's the argument. Separately, there's a argument of

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01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:33,039
normant to authority. Did Jesus establish establish a body of

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01:46:33,079 --> 01:46:36,439
people with the ability to bind consciences to an interpretation?

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01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:41,560
That is not an argument about epistemic certitude. It's about authority.

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01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:48,720
So everybody confuses these arguments mainly because Roman Catholics have

1627
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:54,960
done a piss poor job of debating Protestants with this

1628
01:46:55,199 --> 01:46:58,159
argument of the papacy providing certitude. That is what has

1629
01:46:58,319 --> 01:47:01,960
caused so much of the confusion around this question, and

1630
01:47:02,119 --> 01:47:05,479
it takes philosophy, unfortunately, to get in there and to

1631
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:11,039
separate this out with certitude and clarity. That's where philosophy

1632
01:47:11,079 --> 01:47:15,920
can come in to help us. Monique says, for ten dollars,

1633
01:47:16,079 --> 01:47:20,319
Jesus talks about that you should expect persecution for your beliefs.

1634
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:25,079
I experience people who openly mock Jesus and mock God. Well, yeah, exactly.

1635
01:47:25,119 --> 01:47:28,760
I mean we've got to be willing to just deal

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01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,439
with that. We're going to experience that on a daily basis.

1637
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:36,600
You're going to see people mocking Christianity, blaspheming. It's part

1638
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,439
of this fallen world. So you just have to deal

1639
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,600
with as the as the Boomers say, deal with what

1640
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:44,560
we are dealt, deal to hand we are dealt, and

1641
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:47,840
just pray for them and realize that they don't What

1642
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,159
does Jesus say on the Cross? They don't, they know

1643
01:47:50,319 --> 01:47:57,960
not what they do. There we go, Randolph, last few

1644
01:47:58,039 --> 01:48:03,000
questions because I'm getting kind of tired. Do y'all want

1645
01:48:03,039 --> 01:48:04,880
me to do another Red Dead redemption stream? Or do

1646
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:09,520
y'all want another a different game, a cyberpunk stream? What's up? Man?

1647
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:23,640
I'm you, Randolph, I'm you, okay, don't reader or seraphim?

1648
01:48:29,039 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 6: Hey j can you hear me?

1649
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:31,600
Speaker 3: Hey man?

1650
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 28: I just want to make a comment now. I'm no

1651
01:48:35,079 --> 01:48:39,600
expert in uh in like YouTube and and how to

1652
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:44,079
like how to actually like uh promote the channel and all.

1653
01:48:44,119 --> 01:48:47,800
But something I didn't notice was since people are like

1654
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,760
unfortunately brain dead and I have a little attention span,

1655
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,920
I was thinking, if you maybe if you like put

1656
01:48:57,039 --> 01:49:01,159
like your like your long like live streams on like

1657
01:49:01,239 --> 01:49:06,119
your live stream channel and like your absurdities channel, and

1658
01:49:06,239 --> 01:49:09,000
then if you like posting like clips on like your

1659
01:49:09,119 --> 01:49:12,880
main channel. I don't know if maybe that might bring

1660
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:17,680
in like more people because unfortunately people like to watch

1661
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,159
more clips and they don't really like to watch like

1662
01:49:20,319 --> 01:49:21,920
actual educated live streams.

1663
01:49:22,079 --> 01:49:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's something to consider. I'll think about it.

1664
01:49:25,399 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 6: I do.

1665
01:49:26,119 --> 01:49:30,079
Speaker 2: Still. The thing is that, like live streaming on the

1666
01:49:30,239 --> 01:49:32,960
channel is the is a you know, a pretty significant

1667
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:37,239
source of income, and people you know are pretty generous

1668
01:49:37,279 --> 01:49:39,319
and they super chat here and so we make we

1669
01:49:39,399 --> 01:49:44,000
make a living partially doing that. And I could test

1670
01:49:44,079 --> 01:49:47,600
out a live stream on the clips channels, but I

1671
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,880
mean the thing is that for people who want the

1672
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,039
clips channels, the good news is that we've got like

1673
01:49:52,199 --> 01:49:55,439
ten clip channels now just churning it out on a

1674
01:49:55,520 --> 01:50:02,039
daily so and they're making you know, good thumbs. They're

1675
01:50:02,119 --> 01:50:05,359
killing it. I mean, these are good. This is awesome.

1676
01:50:07,199 --> 01:50:11,640
So I think we'll keep it like it is for now,

1677
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:17,039
but we'll see. I'll think about it. LUs five dollars,

1678
01:50:17,119 --> 01:50:18,680
Why does stigmad up here in the West and not

1679
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,800
in the East, Because it's a delusion. It's not part

1680
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,479
of actual Christian sanctity. Hedes under to have five dollars?

1681
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:31,960
Are you a blubber a bubbler bather or enormy Does

1682
01:50:32,039 --> 01:50:33,920
that mean are you talking about when I take baths?

1683
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:39,680
Do I use bubble baths? Uh? Not really, So I

1684
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:45,000
guess I'm an enormy bather. Okay, I'll own it. JB. Pelta.

1685
01:50:45,079 --> 01:50:48,520
People are against debate, basically saying that analytical types should

1686
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,479
not be able to come into the church. Well, it

1687
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:55,640
is a very sort of passive, aggressive, feminine way to

1688
01:50:55,760 --> 01:51:00,159
approach the world. Oh, I don't debate because you know

1689
01:51:00,359 --> 01:51:04,880
Jesus would never do that, and I'm a soft person. Well,

1690
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:07,479
we don't see that, you know, in scripture and tradition,

1691
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,920
So it seems more like an excuse or a way

1692
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:12,880
to just a way for you to feel like you're

1693
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:14,920
better than other people, right, And a lot of people

1694
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,359
are insecure, so they need to look for ways to

1695
01:51:17,399 --> 01:51:22,039
feel better or superior to other people. As you get older,

1696
01:51:22,079 --> 01:51:24,119
you will realize that that a lot of people in

1697
01:51:24,279 --> 01:51:29,760
life are insecure, and they feel intimidated by other people,

1698
01:51:30,319 --> 01:51:36,640
and they look for petty ways to one up people

1699
01:51:37,279 --> 01:51:42,479
and self satisfy in their own minds how they're actually superior.

1700
01:51:43,319 --> 01:51:46,720
And that's the sad part I think of human nature falling.

1701
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:48,880
Human natures that we look. People look for ways to

1702
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,760
be better than other people that are just retarded. I mean,

1703
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:55,359
if you're actually better than other people, right, okay, like

1704
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,720
you have a better skill set, you're a better basketball

1705
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:03,199
player or whatever. But most people just look for some

1706
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:07,760
petty moral way. Oh well, so and so did this,

1707
01:52:08,119 --> 01:52:12,199
and I'm better than that person and you can usually

1708
01:52:12,399 --> 01:52:14,359
I mean, this is what this is what haters, right,

1709
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,760
hater a they drinking hater a. Dude, there's a lot

1710
01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:21,159
of haters, and you don't realize how many haters there

1711
01:52:21,239 --> 01:52:24,560
actually are until you have a little modicum of success

1712
01:52:25,199 --> 01:52:27,600
and then haters come out of the woodworks, and then

1713
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:32,119
you realize the wisdom of biz Markie when he was

1714
01:52:32,199 --> 01:52:39,119
talking about the vapors. Today, you're going to learn a

1715
01:52:39,159 --> 01:52:43,079
little bit of life wisdom from my first tape I

1716
01:52:43,159 --> 01:52:47,119
ever got. I found a biz Marky tape on the ground, literally,

1717
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,880
and I remember listening to biz Markie and I thought,

1718
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:55,239
what is the vapor? And the whole song is about

1719
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,920
when you start having success, people come out of the woodwork.

1720
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:04,279
Suddenly they hate jo Ass, or they hated Joe Ass

1721
01:53:04,319 --> 01:53:09,520
the whole time, and then when you start having some

1722
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:14,720
success and then they got to eat crow. So the

1723
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,399
best way to beat the haters is to have success

1724
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:21,119
and just move on and ignore them. But I can

1725
01:53:21,159 --> 01:53:22,920
tell you, man, you get a lot of haters when

1726
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,600
you start having some success. You realize, man, people are

1727
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:31,920
just freaking envious, jealous, and you don't think about a

1728
01:53:32,079 --> 01:53:34,199
large portion of people being that way because you are

1729
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:38,159
probably not that way, right. You're a good will Yeah,

1730
01:53:38,319 --> 01:53:41,880
sure you wish well for other people. You like seeing

1731
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:46,079
people succeed. A lot of people don't like seeing people succeed.

1732
01:53:46,319 --> 01:53:50,479
It makes them feel inferior, like they got handed up.

1733
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:52,800
You know, they got dealt a bad hand in life,

1734
01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:56,000
and it's all everybody else's fault, and so they would

1735
01:53:56,079 --> 01:54:03,079
rather wallow in that and hate on you. I mean,

1736
01:54:03,399 --> 01:54:07,159
and I hate that, like even friends, even relatives. You'll

1737
01:54:07,199 --> 01:54:10,079
have friends and relatives that you think, okay, well maybe

1738
01:54:10,119 --> 01:54:12,079
they'll respect me if I start having some success. Now

1739
01:54:12,079 --> 01:54:14,640
it turns out they don't. They like you even less.

1740
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:19,560
F p V you my boo Jay, I love you.

1741
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:23,159
Uh oh uh oh. I don't know if that's is

1742
01:54:23,199 --> 01:54:24,720
that a dude airborne?

1743
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 7: All?

1744
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,079
Speaker 2: We got gay military men in here trying to come

1745
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:31,680
at me. I'm straight, dude, I'm Mary bro Ain't no

1746
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:35,079
faking gay around here. It's straight. You need to move

1747
01:54:35,159 --> 01:54:40,720
on to the grind the sun. Anyway, some of y'all

1748
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:45,880
caught the vapors, that's all I almost say. Y'all caught

1749
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:51,319
the vapors hades, No, we did that. Make sure I

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1764
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:58,239
a lot of laughs. We didn't really get into the

1765
01:55:58,279 --> 01:56:01,319
Jeff Stin mcgffy sub but that's okay, Rui says, for

1766
01:56:01,399 --> 01:56:03,640
five dollars next year, I want T shirts. I want

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Jaydar quotes on T shirts. I also want them, though,

1768
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:11,319
to have flamingos and your signature. All right, we'll see

1769
01:56:11,359 --> 01:56:13,479
what we can do. We're gonna make twenty twenty six

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give me some merch, dude, give me some merch. Okay, okay,

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all right. Otherwise, everybody, have a good night, and I

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will talk to you soon. Happy New Year's