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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to you.
Speaker 3: I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve Rivera in with me today. Is gonna be
Speaker 3: Blake eager and running the control is Ray?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Ray.
Speaker 2: What's going on on Wednesday? O?
Speaker 3: Not too much?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, just another another great day to
Speaker 5: be be here in the studio.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you're not getting to raise You're not.
Speaker 2: You don't even think about it.
Speaker 3: Not even a couple of dollars.
Speaker 6: Man, I guess some gas, your Mickey D's and your
Speaker 6: Mickey D's fish for lay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on out there? Everybody want to call?
Speaker 3: Please do or anybody wants to call five two zero
Speaker 3: four one six seventy four forty. I think we have
Speaker 3: things under control today. Ray.
Speaker 2: If it's not, it's on you, that's right. It's okay. Though.
Speaker 3: Blake's coming in pretty soon here. He's coming in from downtown,
Speaker 3: so I'm sure he's just a few miles away. So
Speaker 3: we're gonna talk to a couple of people here today.
Speaker 3: Brandon Sanders, who just recently ran the Boston Marathon. Everyone
Speaker 3: knows him, the former U of A football star back
Speaker 3: in the day New York Giant I think he was,
Speaker 3: and now he's with the U of A in the
Speaker 3: high school recruiting or facilitating world of what he does.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to him more about that, as well as
Speaker 3: his experience in the marathon on Monday, and then in
Speaker 3: the second hour, we're gonna have Rita Stubbs, the volleyball
Speaker 3: coach at U of A. She's been on the show
Speaker 3: before before they made that great run to win the
Speaker 3: postseason tournament that they were in. But she's gonna speak
Speaker 3: mostly about that UA caravan that's going on this week.
Speaker 3: She's gonna be at it, and we'll get more where
Speaker 3: they're gonna be this week, because we just had one yesterday.
Speaker 2: I think they were at one yesterday.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I believe. So, yeah, what do we have
Speaker 3: on We had, oh, the marketing guy, the marketing marketing guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So we'll talk more about that. They're trying to make
Speaker 3: a push for you fans to go and see and
Speaker 3: say hello and get you guys engaged with what's going on.
Speaker 3: So there's that. I'm not sure where they're at this week.
Speaker 3: I want no gallaus. I think yeah, I think he
Speaker 3: said no gallous after this and then somewhere. I think
Speaker 3: there's two places. Yeah, so they're busy. They're busy right now,
Speaker 3: getty rally those troops are you? H you a zoo's
Speaker 3: on a zoo guy? Uh no, no, because just because
Speaker 3: but you go to the games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I go to the usually just mostly the football games. Okay,
Speaker 5: because of my internship with Brian, but yeah, just uh yeah, never.
Speaker 3: Been his oh with with Brian and Brian Jefferson. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I forget. I forgot that. You know the spotter. Do
Speaker 3: you get paid there? Yeah, there's your gas money there.
Speaker 1: You go.
Speaker 3: That's a good job too. That's cool job. I used
Speaker 3: to do that when I was in college. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: really fun.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I've always been like more of
Speaker 5: a football guy, and so it's just it's nice to
Speaker 5: you know, get get.
Speaker 3: The you're on the outdoor right, you're in that outdoor
Speaker 3: little area. No, we got we got windows.
Speaker 2: Oh do you you didn't before? I think that you
Speaker 2: just had railings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, next to us, next to us is only the railings.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, but yeah, okay, yeah yeah, you got a
Speaker 3: suite there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah it's usually cold.
Speaker 3: Though, yeah, well and cold for her Tucson, Yeah, cold
Speaker 3: like it is in his room, exactly for me, exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay. Cool.
Speaker 3: So a lot of things going on, obviously, you can
Speaker 3: have I don't want to step on your toes to
Speaker 3: breaking news stuff. People coming and going with the portal, football, basketball,
Speaker 3: last night's softball game, NBA stuff. Yep. Yeah, women's golf,
Speaker 3: they're women's golf. They headed out somewhere yep. Okay, you
Speaker 3: can tease it, but don't talk about it because then
Speaker 3: you run out of stuff. We're just waiting for Blake
Speaker 3: to to bs. I talked a little yesterday about the
Speaker 3: Garment Garman Marathons coming here in November, so Blake knows
Speaker 3: a little bit more about that too, given his situation
Speaker 3: with the travel and and the tourism business, to talk
Speaker 3: more about that, and things are looking up. I think
Speaker 3: we'll know soon enough. Friday is a final day of
Speaker 3: portal closure, right, comings and goings. They got someone today
Speaker 3: just recently, and I don't think anybody else besides the
Speaker 3: three that we mentioned yesterday going leaving Arizona. But there
Speaker 3: was an interesting thing on OK on one of those
Speaker 3: things that last year, I have to go all away
Speaker 3: for Blake because it'll be a better discussion with him
Speaker 3: about people transferring and how many people what the percentage
Speaker 3: was where people left and each school had in terms
Speaker 3: of like say you stay with Arizona and only forty
Speaker 3: of the people who stayed played, so from outside took
Speaker 3: up at fifty eight sixty eight sixty percent of the
Speaker 3: playing time.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so if you go to Albuquerque or you.
Speaker 3: Go to New Mexico, you're one of the guys they
Speaker 3: want to be playing, not the guys that were staying there.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean you gotta assume too that it's like
Speaker 5: if they want you to go after you in the portal,
Speaker 5: it's like you're probably a little better, right, you know,
Speaker 5: you have something more different that you can offer to
Speaker 5: the team, sure, compared to the guys who've been there
Speaker 5: who haven't played before.
Speaker 3: There was a book that I've said this in a
Speaker 3: couple on the show a couple of times, called Sway
Speaker 3: a really good book about so if I invested half
Speaker 3: a million dollars in Ray to come to play and
Speaker 3: he turns out to be mediocre. You're gonna damn play
Speaker 3: the guy because you spend a half a million dollars
Speaker 3: to prove that you're right, right until you can't anymore right,
Speaker 3: because you spent a lot of money and you brought
Speaker 3: him here. You better be making you better make smart
Speaker 3: decisions for sure, until you proven otherwise.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like more professional leagues are a
Speaker 5: bit more kind of like political like that. I don't
Speaker 5: think we've seen it too much yet in terms of
Speaker 5: college sports, but I mean, you know, yeah, futures coming eventually,
Speaker 5: so I s see where that's sure.
Speaker 3: And you're right though in basketball or football, if you're
Speaker 3: not good enough, you're just not good enough, and then
Speaker 3: money at that point doesn't really matter for sure. Yeah, Blake, Hey, guys,
Speaker 3: after the show, you gotta run about twenty laps?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Can I just gripe a
Speaker 2: little bit?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 2: Like there is what's the easiest way to get here
Speaker 2: from downtown?
Speaker 3: I would say twenty second or Broadway East to Swan
Speaker 3: and North. Yeah it's miserable out there, of course. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well it's still it's still the snowbird season. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: always complain about that. I ran off the road by Mercedes.
Speaker 2: What do you be always complained about?
Speaker 3: You asked me a question and then you could you
Speaker 3: want you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 2: I will definitely go Jack.
Speaker 3: Nicole said on you you can't handle the truth.
Speaker 2: You ask me a question, don't like my answer.
Speaker 3: Guess what?
Speaker 2: Stop asking me questions.
Speaker 3: It's true. That's a good point. So Mercedes. Oh, they
Speaker 3: twenty people. She was just a little older.
Speaker 2: She was taking up about a quarter of my lane
Speaker 2: and decided to be half of my lane. Then she
Speaker 2: went back in her lane and she was like, this
Speaker 2: lane is not nice enough. Really like that lane. She
Speaker 2: kept just trying out my lane, but she never fully committed.
Speaker 2: Didn't you know who he is? Don't you know who
Speaker 2: he is?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That line works all the time, right, Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just gets you more embarrassed. Really, what's going on? You
Speaker 3: try to get us?
Speaker 2: Garman?
Speaker 3: We had him on the show yesterday. He was a
Speaker 3: good dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're working. We're working really hard on it. Really excited. Uh,
Speaker 2: they're looking to do the marathon in November. But to
Speaker 2: be able to have a you know, an organization like
Speaker 2: Garman in our our backyard running a marathon. It's going
Speaker 2: to be downtown course. I think the course looks Amay,
Speaker 2: what do you mean by that downtown? Of course, you've
Speaker 2: got twenty six miles of this. Yeah, they they haven't
Speaker 2: mapped out.
Speaker 3: It's like, well he said he didn't want to go there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he didn't tell us. Well it's not official. Yes, I
Speaker 3: just shared too much, right, Well you said just down.
Speaker 3: Well he told us we're going to start it downtown. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be it. It's going to incorporate downtown. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah he said that. Yeah, so he'll let us know later.
Speaker 3: What's going to look like. I know what we go
Speaker 3: through at El Tour. I mean we kind of peel
Speaker 3: a lot of people because we're on the roads and
Speaker 3: they have to stop travel.
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about this in the meeting one
Speaker 2: of the meetings today that I had, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to have this conversation with you and with Ray because
Speaker 2: of his age. We have to disrupt our life for
Speaker 2: a couple hours once a year, right to be able
Speaker 2: to have the ability. I mean, El Tours humongous garment,
Speaker 2: this international brand, right is humongous. Do we really should
Speaker 2: we really be getting upset with that? You're talking about
Speaker 2: the people. The people are locals, Like, hey, I listen,
Speaker 2: I used to be the same way, going to work
Speaker 2: in El tour, I'd be like the son of a Right.
Speaker 2: But I mean if you step back and you go,
Speaker 2: this is incredible that it's happening here.
Speaker 3: It's one day out of the year and it's only
Speaker 3: for a few hours. Only for a few hours, right,
Speaker 3: So I just I that's a question. I don't should
Speaker 3: we be getting upset with that? No, but they do,
Speaker 3: and we try to make here's the issue, here's the issue.
Speaker 3: So in my role, I'll tour and I'm sure you'll
Speaker 3: be a role over there with the garment. We let
Speaker 3: them know the places are going to be shut down
Speaker 3: or delayed or whatever. We do this maybe two months
Speaker 3: in advance, and then we do it a month in events,
Speaker 3: and then we do it right before the race.
Speaker 2: And people, oh, I didn't see it or I didn't
Speaker 2: see it because.
Speaker 3: They're not looking one and they we have it at
Speaker 3: the same time every year for last forty two years.
Speaker 3: They don't see it. They don't know, they don't see it.
Speaker 3: So what are you looking at?
Speaker 2: TV? Not TV?
Speaker 3: We put it everywhere everywhere you can see it websites
Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, and we didn't see it. We didn't know.
Speaker 3: That's is that our We we do as much as
Speaker 3: we can, and you're gonna have to do the same
Speaker 3: thing for this for this event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's you know, it's we're not taking
Speaker 2: the driver's seat like we did in the World Baseball
Speaker 2: Class by any means. We just want to be a
Speaker 2: good partner. That's what we're here for. But it kind
Speaker 2: of brings us back to the last topic I think
Speaker 2: we spoke about last week, the three of us with
Speaker 2: one was do we have a centralized Uh do we
Speaker 2: have something that centralized that people can go on and
Speaker 2: find out information?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 3: No? And that's I think that do you know the
Speaker 3: answer are you asking? I know, I don't think there
Speaker 3: is right is it? Is it visit Tucson? Is it
Speaker 3: you know, city of Tucson, what is it? Pema County? Like?
Speaker 2: But there should be something where people are like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm getting some kind of source of.
Speaker 3: Little Danny notebook from the stuff that we talked about.
Speaker 3: I already forgot what we talked about last week, you
Speaker 3: know for a project. This is another one of those
Speaker 3: Maybe that's how things like this are started. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think it is.
Speaker 2: I think there's a I mean, you're looking at other
Speaker 2: cities our size, right, and we are a city, whether
Speaker 2: we like to admit it or not. I feel like
Speaker 2: they have maybe a little bit better grasp and understanding
Speaker 2: on how to promote the events or things that are
Speaker 2: going on. And this goes for locals, right, I mean
Speaker 2: we're talking about you know, international events that are happening,
Speaker 2: but local things that are happening, whether it's a fourth
Speaker 2: happening street fair, whether it's I don't know, throw something
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I used to get it in the Tucson Weekly, right,
Speaker 2: and I don't get that.
Speaker 3: I don't get that. Yeah, but yes, exactly another source
Speaker 3: that nobody reads.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I mean it's apology equated, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to say. I still enjoy reading. So but there's got
Speaker 2: to be a way. Like the technologies that we have,
Speaker 2: we're all walking around with supercomputers in our pocket.
Speaker 3: Sure, but you know what, a lot of the people
Speaker 3: who complain and I'm sorry, I apologized now are older
Speaker 3: like me and maybe not you so much, but and
Speaker 3: they're not on their phones.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean I can complain with the best
Speaker 2: of them. But yeah, you might be right, but maybe
Speaker 2: there's two. Maybe there's two or three forms, but they're
Speaker 2: all going back to one thing, right, that we have
Speaker 2: one centralized hub.
Speaker 3: I like that idea. What were the things we were
Speaker 3: talking about last week? You don't, well, I have to
Speaker 3: go on the shows and review the show.
Speaker 2: No, we were I think what we were talking about,
Speaker 2: because who do we have on last week?
Speaker 3: Was it? Maybe? Was it?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 2: It was before Kim who was on Wednesday? Last week?
Speaker 2: That was Thursday? Okay, we'd have to go anyway. It
Speaker 2: was something happening, and we were talking about like with
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic, right where I run into people
Speaker 2: and they're like, well, I didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 3: It's like I don't know who, I don't know what
Speaker 3: they I hear that about everything though, right, I didn't
Speaker 3: know anything about that. I didn't know about that.
Speaker 2: Where are we? Where's the disconnect? Right?
Speaker 3: Right? No? No, no, And that's the fine. We're not
Speaker 3: going to please everybody or make you really happy. Because
Speaker 3: everyone gets her news sources or from different places, whether
Speaker 3: it's Facebook, Twitter, newspaper, TV, or whatever, or not at all.
Speaker 3: And it may be the sign of the times, of
Speaker 3: the times we live in.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about, you know, we all kind of
Speaker 2: get the mass text messages, whether it's during campaign season
Speaker 2: or I got one today that was for It's the
Speaker 2: first time I've got. Was like, Hey, we're in your
Speaker 2: neighborhood redoing somebody's cabinets.
Speaker 3: Can we stop by and do it? And like, yeah,
Speaker 3: what no, But maybe it's a mass texts start with
Speaker 3: everybody with a five too oh number or you g
Speaker 3: o fence it, and then people can opt out of that.
Speaker 3: I don't know who knows. By the way, do you
Speaker 3: need solar? I'll send you my text. How about that
Speaker 3: car repair? I get a roofing call. I don't four
Speaker 3: times a day. I don't know how many roofing companies
Speaker 3: there are, but they're in my neighborhood. In your car,
Speaker 3: don't forget that warranty bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the ones where it's like we're looking,
Speaker 2: do you want to sell your house?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get those cars. Yeah
Speaker 3: yeah for the price? Yeah price lo bolly me man,
Speaker 3: what's up with that? Hey, welcome to the show, mister Blake.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have Brandon Sanders on the show. Here in
Speaker 3: about ten minutes. He just ran the marathon. I want
Speaker 3: to see what gave him any thought to do this.
Speaker 3: It's like, why, maybe he'll run into the do so
Speaker 3: maybe I would, you would hope? So, yeah, Well he's
Speaker 3: kind of football ish, so I don't know if they're
Speaker 3: in town or not or whatever, but that'd be cool.
Speaker 3: And then we're gonna have Rita Stubbs could Stubs the
Speaker 3: bulletball could She's gonna be on that caravan of people
Speaker 3: who are gonna be out promoting the shake hands, Kiss
Speaker 3: Babies from you a. Oh yeah, you know, for the
Speaker 3: football and the athletic department. Yeah, yeah, So we'll talk
Speaker 3: more about that. So what else going on? You like,
Speaker 3: what's going on with football? Basketball? Comings and goings? We
Speaker 3: gotta call or we gotta go. You're already giving me
Speaker 3: the sign three fourteen that went quick. Okay, wait, welcome here.
Speaker 3: At fourteen minutes it's fourteen minutes late. About twelve minutes late.
Speaker 3: I wasn't twelve minut late, eleven minutes late. I was
Speaker 3: six minutes late at most. Okay, the time of your
Speaker 3: text messages times two, that's tiled laps. All right, I'll
Speaker 3: do it. Let's take a breath.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to iron the Bar here a Fox
Speaker 3: Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: I'm Steve Rivera. You happen to be Blake Eager from
Speaker 2: Southern Arizona Sports Tourism and Film Authority.
Speaker 3: Yes, great to have you here, and now we have
Speaker 3: coach Stubbs from the volleyball team at UVK.
Speaker 2: Coach, how are you.
Speaker 14: I'm wonderful, how are you?
Speaker 2: We're doing fine?
Speaker 3: Hey, the last time we spoke, I know everybody remembers
Speaker 3: when they speak to me. Right, damn yeah, sure, you
Speaker 3: were on your way to become the championship, the winner
Speaker 3: of the tournament. Let us talk about that real quick.
Speaker 3: How did that go and how did that feel? And
Speaker 3: then how did that help move forward?
Speaker 14: You know it felt good.
Speaker 15: Anytime you get a chance to win in front of
Speaker 15: your home crowd and play that late into the month
Speaker 15: of December, you know, you walk away feeling like a champion.
Speaker 15: And our players enjoyed every minute of it, even though
Speaker 15: going into it, you know, we were a little sad
Speaker 15: and by the fact that we didn't make it to
Speaker 15: the NCAA tournament. But once I let the girls know,
Speaker 15: let's go out there and be the sixty fifth.
Speaker 14: Best team in the nation, and they bought in and
Speaker 14: we did it and it was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. I think the crowd reflected that, right.
Speaker 3: You had some people in the stands and it gives
Speaker 3: you I hate to use this word, momentum, but it
Speaker 3: gives you a nice run into next year.
Speaker 15: Yes, it was because I was on the radio. You know,
Speaker 15: I got a chance to talk and tell people about.
Speaker 14: Everything that we're doing and why is the fun sport
Speaker 14: to come out and watch, and the support and you know,
Speaker 14: just being able to have it.
Speaker 15: Was a ton of basketball.
Speaker 14: Fans there, which was really.
Speaker 15: Cool, and so just educating them a little bit on.
Speaker 14: The sport was fun.
Speaker 3: You're always welcome on the show. You're checks in the mail,
Speaker 3: by the way, thanks for seeing that.
Speaker 15: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: So now what you get ready? I'm sure you guess
Speaker 3: already practicing or what's the schedule like?
Speaker 14: So we had our spring season.
Speaker 15: We actually concluded our practices yesterday. We still have some
Speaker 15: lifting to do for the next couple of days. But
Speaker 15: we had a tremendous spring season. We had four weekends
Speaker 15: of competition. And the spring is different than the fall
Speaker 15: in the sense that we're not allowed to travel by plane.
Speaker 3: That's the nc double A rules.
Speaker 14: So we take a bus.
Speaker 15: We'll leave Friday.
Speaker 14: After everyone's out of class. We'll drive to.
Speaker 15: San Diego or Utaps where.
Speaker 14: We went this year, and up to ASU.
Speaker 15: And then we'll compete all day and then get.
Speaker 14: Back on that same bus charter bus, mind you, and
Speaker 14: head back home.
Speaker 15: So it was a great spring for us in terms
Speaker 15: of competing.
Speaker 14: We had four of.
Speaker 15: Our newbies graduated high school early, so they were able
Speaker 15: to play with us this spring, which was really good.
Speaker 15: That's a huge advantage by having your kids in school early.
Speaker 3: So you lost me at NC double A rules. There
Speaker 3: are still some what's oh.
Speaker 15: Yeah, we still have a few.
Speaker 14: It's a few.
Speaker 3: And then I think you spoke just now about stuff
Speaker 3: that I didn't know even though we know about it
Speaker 3: in football, where kids are coming in early trying to
Speaker 3: you know, start their their schedule here at u of
Speaker 3: A and other schools, I didn't you know. I'm not
Speaker 3: assuming this because you see them football and basketball when
Speaker 3: they come early. But your sports are affected too well.
Speaker 14: Yes. One of the reasons why it's so important for
Speaker 14: our sport is because we start.
Speaker 15: Writing in August, and so you imagine being a freshman
Speaker 15: coming in and having to take classes.
Speaker 14: And you know you have about.
Speaker 15: Ten days to get ready for your competition.
Speaker 14: Season and it's a lot.
Speaker 15: And so now the athletes are wanting to finish their
Speaker 15: club season.
Speaker 14: Early, so you'll get a lot of juniors.
Speaker 15: Playing at the eighteens level so that they're in a
Speaker 15: position to leave and enjoy that last hourah and then
Speaker 15: come into college.
Speaker 3: But the reps and.
Speaker 15: The classes they get to take and bonding with.
Speaker 14: The team is invaluable.
Speaker 2: Hey, coach, to kind of stay on that same topic,
Speaker 2: So could you enlighten everybody, that's all the listeners and
Speaker 2: even ourselves. What's your summer schedule like from a coaching standpoint,
Speaker 2: and what's the schedule like from a student athlete standpoint?
Speaker 2: Like for me, I played college baseball, so my summers
Speaker 2: I was in the North Woods League, playing pretty much
Speaker 2: the whole summer. What's it like for a college athlete?
Speaker 2: And then what's it like for a college coach from
Speaker 2: a recruiting standpoint? Just your personal life and everything that
Speaker 2: goes into that.
Speaker 15: Well, they'll go practice and they'll have weights until Tuesday
Speaker 15: of next week, and then we're not allowed to do
Speaker 15: anything with them again until August. So that's the reason
Speaker 15: why having our freshmen come in from January till the
Speaker 15: beginning of May is invaluable because we get a chance
Speaker 15: to work with them and they will report data. Is
Speaker 15: August eighth, where the athletes come back and then we
Speaker 15: are allowed to start working with them in volleyball. So
Speaker 15: one of the things that we encourage them to do
Speaker 15: is come back and work our camps. So a lot
Speaker 15: of our athletes will come back the beginning of July
Speaker 15: end of June so that they're in a position that
Speaker 15: can start lifting weights and you know, get acclimated and
Speaker 15: bond with one another, which you know is a loving sport,
Speaker 15: so you've got to enjoy the people that you're working with.
Speaker 15: But there's nothing that I can require them to do.
Speaker 14: And that's a rule that has been.
Speaker 15: Always in place for volleyball.
Speaker 14: And soccer, and we're the main ones.
Speaker 15: Pushing to be able to have some summertime with our
Speaker 15: athletes and football, they're allowed to do it from a
Speaker 15: safety precaution and it makes sense.
Speaker 14: I'm not anti that, but.
Speaker 15: I just want to be able to eat a piece
Speaker 15: of that pie as well. Let me as a coach.
Speaker 2: Oh go ahead, Sorry, no, it's just going to say
Speaker 2: only makes sense, especially with the timing of your season.
Speaker 3: You you, I mean you should have.
Speaker 2: You should be able to be afforded some time with
Speaker 2: those players, especially from a bonding standpoint and a practice standpoint. Sorry,
Speaker 2: keep going on. We want to know about your personal
Speaker 2: side of it.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and so me personally.
Speaker 15: So I will recruit this weekend. This will be my
Speaker 15: last recruiting weekend before we go into what's called our
Speaker 15: quiet period, and that means that I can't go out
Speaker 15: for the month of May. But because the transfer portal
Speaker 15: is open, I'm still recruiting, trying.
Speaker 14: To get kids on campus and working.
Speaker 15: Hard to make sure that you know everything is going well.
Speaker 15: So May technically is our downtime, but it's not because
Speaker 15: you're in the portal trying to navigate getting kids on campus.
Speaker 15: But it's a lot of handwriting letters and making phone
Speaker 15: calls and things.
Speaker 14: Of that nature.
Speaker 15: Because June fifteenth is when we were allowed to get
Speaker 15: on the phone call phone and start talking.
Speaker 14: To the uprising juniors.
Speaker 15: In high school.
Speaker 14: And so then I'll do.
Speaker 15: That all of May, and then June hits and then
Speaker 15: I'm back out on the road. And from June technically
Speaker 15: May thirty first until June twelfth, I will be out
Speaker 15: of Arizona. I'll be traveling around to different clubs and
Speaker 15: doing clinics and talking and willing and doing, and then
Speaker 15: I'll come back for a day, do a clinic, and
Speaker 15: then I'll get back out on the road and start recruiting.
Speaker 15: And that takes us all the way until just after
Speaker 15: fourth of July, and then you run about ten days
Speaker 15: of camps, so you're asking kids to come on campus
Speaker 15: and you know, Willing and Dylan and jazzing them up,
Speaker 15: and then you'll have about a week and a half
Speaker 15: two weeks, just depending on how you plan it out where.
Speaker 14: That's your downtime.
Speaker 15: And yet you're getting ready for your upcoming season, so
Speaker 15: you know, May it's supposed to be our downtime, but
Speaker 15: we really don't get any downtime coaching.
Speaker 14: Truth.
Speaker 3: You've been a coach for a long time, obviously an
Speaker 3: assistant here for a long time, and now you moved
Speaker 3: over in a chair, and no one would ever thought
Speaker 3: you'd have to deal with a lot of stuff that's.
Speaker 2: Going on here right now.
Speaker 3: Nil other factors, you probably would have never thought this possible.
Speaker 3: But now when you go recruit, I know what happens
Speaker 3: with every football basketball Did they say, so, how much
Speaker 3: are you going to give me?
Speaker 14: Well? I do hear it.
Speaker 15: I don't hear it as much because most of the
Speaker 15: kids out there that are the high profile kids in
Speaker 15: terms of requiring and wanting a lot of money. They
Speaker 15: already know what program do it, so the.
Speaker 14: Information's out there.
Speaker 15: Are the best recruiter that is available with social media,
Speaker 15: and so these athletes walk in.
Speaker 14: Knowing what schools.
Speaker 15: Will give and will not give, or don't have or
Speaker 15: do have. But you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 15: I don't I'm not anti nil or anti you know.
Speaker 14: Paying the athletes.
Speaker 15: I just want to be in a position where they
Speaker 15: I know that these are good athletes, these are good kids.
Speaker 15: You know. I want to continue to raise up and
Speaker 15: help develop young women to be the best that they
Speaker 15: can be. And I believe that relationships is the way
Speaker 15: that you do that. So, you know, we're selective on
Speaker 15: you know, a kid maybe like.
Speaker 14: Oh how much can you give me?
Speaker 15: I'm like, well, how good of a person are you?
Speaker 15: And so I spend more time in our staff, we
Speaker 15: spend more time trying to get to know the athletes
Speaker 15: as people, because at the end of the day, that's
Speaker 15: what it really boils down to. So you'll see a
Speaker 15: lot of kids make decisions to change schools because it
Speaker 15: wasn't all that it was cracked up to be when
Speaker 15: they were chasing that money.
Speaker 3: You had no question and you were I think you
Speaker 3: were around with when Luke was here, right when he
Speaker 3: was coaching here. Yes, yes, his number one thing was
Speaker 3: if you recruit good people, good things happen because they're
Speaker 3: good people.
Speaker 14: Yes.
Speaker 15: Yes, I one undred percent buy into that and believe that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to one of the things you wanted
Speaker 3: to talk about. They wanted to talk to you about
Speaker 3: this caravan that keeps going on. I think, where are
Speaker 3: you guys headed next?
Speaker 14: Listen here? These Beardown takeovers are awesome.
Speaker 15: Yesterday we were at the Monica and it was a
Speaker 15: good turnout and just being able to talk to the community.
Speaker 14: And give that. Tomorrow we're actually going out. I'm excited
Speaker 14: for the song.
Speaker 15: We're off at Drackman's Track and we'll be doing some cleanup,
Speaker 15: which is pretty impressive.
Speaker 14: And I hear it's going to be a large group
Speaker 14: of us out there and people are like, really, are
Speaker 14: you doing this?
Speaker 15: Are you being made to do it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 15: This is something I truly believe in because Tucson.
Speaker 14: Is all about community, and I think the more the.
Speaker 15: Community gets to see us do the takeover and see
Speaker 15: us putting our you know, getting.
Speaker 14: Out there doing work.
Speaker 15: And one of my favorites of all is when we
Speaker 15: do the how may I help you at football games? Yes,
Speaker 15: I put on that shirt and I'm ready to answer
Speaker 15: questions and.
Speaker 14: Direct people to their seats.
Speaker 15: And so I think that's a good bonus that Desiree
Speaker 15: has brought to us, which I think is really important.
Speaker 15: And then also tomorrow.
Speaker 14: There's one down in No Gallus.
Speaker 15: So the nice thing is we're up to twenty two
Speaker 15: this year.
Speaker 14: I think we did.
Speaker 15: Eight last year, but we're at twenty two and we're
Speaker 15: going around. We're going to hit every corner of the state.
Speaker 3: And so you become more cohesive. I guess as a group, right,
Speaker 3: are you getting the bus and down there?
Speaker 2: Is that what you guys do?
Speaker 15: Yeah, we'll take buses or we'll take bands or whatnot.
Speaker 14: And you know, we.
Speaker 15: Get to talk to a lot of the coaches, and
Speaker 15: you get a.
Speaker 14: Lot of athletes are going this year, and.
Speaker 15: Just our support staff. You know, we're a unit. We're
Speaker 15: not going to ever be the place where.
Speaker 14: It's a one man show. You know, me going out.
Speaker 15: And talking to people on behalf of football is just
Speaker 15: as important as me going out talking to people on
Speaker 15: behalf of volleyball. I think that's how we grow our
Speaker 15: business and our communit unity.
Speaker 3: What do you think the number one or two concerns
Speaker 3: of the general public Maybe somebody who doesn't what do
Speaker 3: they ask?
Speaker 15: The number one question asks is what are y'all using
Speaker 15: the money for?
Speaker 14: Are you really just chating the athletes? And it's like, no,
Speaker 14: that's not everyone across.
Speaker 15: The board and you know, and do you really support
Speaker 15: one another?
Speaker 14: I get that question a lot, and I can tell
Speaker 14: you I have a group.
Speaker 15: Text with all the head coaches and yes, we do
Speaker 15: talk all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes total sense. Well, the first question, for
Speaker 3: sure is because I get it too, says I'm not
Speaker 3: too sure where to give money because I'm not sure
Speaker 3: where it's going. Well, you don't know until you ask, right,
Speaker 3: So that makes sense to ask, right, you guys? Right?
Speaker 14: Yeah. We put it towards the scholarship fund, you.
Speaker 15: Know, making sure that we can contain to support our athletes,
Speaker 15: and all of that goes towards our academic services and
Speaker 15: medical staff. We also put it towards our operations, you know,
Speaker 15: to offset things everyone knows is real and you know,
Speaker 15: we want to be able to compete and desiree has
Speaker 15: done an awesome job of allocating funds in the right
Speaker 15: direction and promoting and supporting one another. And that's why
Speaker 15: we're all willing.
Speaker 14: To get in. If it weren't that way, you wouldn't
Speaker 14: get to buy in and support of everyone.
Speaker 2: Coach, you had some pretty big shoes to fill with
Speaker 2: Dave Rubio, and you've done a phenomenal job there. I
Speaker 2: know his son Dylan really well, what were the changes
Speaker 2: going from the assistant world to the manager head coach
Speaker 2: role that that you were really prepared for, you felt like,
Speaker 2: and then some things that were that kind of caught
Speaker 2: you off guard, especially with the ever changing landscape of
Speaker 2: the NC double A. Can you give us some insight there?
Speaker 3: Well, and let me ask you say this because you're
Speaker 3: talking to Blake Eager, who's with the tourism industry here.
Speaker 3: He's a former manager in pro baseball.
Speaker 14: So yes, well, I can tell you the biggest change.
Speaker 15: And when I got offered the job, you know, a
Speaker 15: lot of the kids were smiling, and I'm wondering.
Speaker 14: Like, is this for real? You're really smiling or you're just.
Speaker 15: Acting that way because I'm the head coach. So it
Speaker 15: took me a minute.
Speaker 14: And so I've done one and sat.
Speaker 16: On the bean bag and I said, you, guys, my
Speaker 16: biggest fear is that you're going to think that I've
Speaker 16: changed as a person because I'm now the head coach.
Speaker 16: So as an assistant coach.
Speaker 14: The kids come to you for everything.
Speaker 15: You know, they tell you things you probably don't want
Speaker 15: to hear and you shouldn't know, but they're comfortable with you.
Speaker 15: And I am a relational person. I am not transactional
Speaker 15: at all, like I shriek at transactions, but I'm a
Speaker 15: relational person. So I wanted to maintain the relationship with
Speaker 15: my players and then let them know that I'm still
Speaker 15: the person that they can talk to. But I said,
Speaker 15: I do understand that now the decisions lie with me,
Speaker 15: but I'm still going to be there for you, you know,
Speaker 15: no matter what time. And so I'll get kids that
Speaker 15: will FaceTime me, and I'm not a facetimer by any
Speaker 15: stretch of imagination, but they'll FaceTime me and like.
Speaker 14: I'm like, hey, Rickan, I'm like, Okay, this is a
Speaker 14: little weird. But I'm vulnerable with them.
Speaker 15: And that's something I learned from my when I was
Speaker 15: at NC State is that I wasn't vulnerable. Then I
Speaker 15: thought that you had to have this facade as a
Speaker 15: head coach, and you know, there's a certain way to act.
Speaker 15: And I used to think I was too immature to
Speaker 15: be a head coach because I love to laugh and
Speaker 15: I yeah, I loved and laugh and engage. And I
Speaker 15: realized that I needed to be myself in order to
Speaker 15: be the best version of me, which will then allow
Speaker 15: people to continue to see me as the person they
Speaker 15: saw me as before I got the head coaching job.
Speaker 15: So that was my fear and I shared that with
Speaker 15: that group that day, and you know, they and it
Speaker 15: was a few that were like, oh, we do, we.
Speaker 14: Want to do this for.
Speaker 15: You, and I'm like, I'm just one person. I put
Speaker 15: my pants on one leg at a time. Please don't
Speaker 15: put me on a pedal. Still, that's too much pressure
Speaker 15: for you, and quite honestly, I don't want the pressure
Speaker 15: on me.
Speaker 3: No, I can. You said it perfectly because I've said
Speaker 3: this historically that it's hard. It's hard to replace the
Speaker 3: head coach with an assistant coach because it's like a
Speaker 3: substitute teacher filling in for the main teacher. But I
Speaker 3: think your approach is perfectly because one you are who
Speaker 3: you are, right, and you haven't changed that? Yeah, So
Speaker 3: and they know and you've told them that I'm not changing.
Speaker 2: I'm just in a different role.
Speaker 15: Correct, And I said, if anything changes is you towards me,
Speaker 15: it will.
Speaker 14: Never be me towards you. And so I worked hard
Speaker 14: at that.
Speaker 15: And you know, the piece that helped me out the
Speaker 15: best was being able to get to write assistance around
Speaker 15: me so that it allowed me to lie in my
Speaker 15: strength and I didn't have to be someone or something
Speaker 15: that I wasn't And I think that the players appreciate.
Speaker 14: That as well.
Speaker 3: Right, sometimes you have to be well all the coaches.
Speaker 3: I've most of the coaches are good cop, bad cop, right,
Speaker 3: so the assistants kind of the good top blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But if you're but if you're a good cop bad
Speaker 3: cop all in one, then that helps too.
Speaker 15: Right, Yes, yes, And like I said, I'm always transparent.
Speaker 15: Don't like surprises, so I worked.
Speaker 14: Hard to never surprise them.
Speaker 15: And I think that's something that they appreciate, that they
Speaker 15: know that they can come to me and.
Speaker 14: Good or bad. If you want to know the answer, come.
Speaker 15: On, I'll tell you.
Speaker 14: And I don't hold back. And so it.
Speaker 15: Opens the door for them to be the same way.
Speaker 15: And I even let them know if I don't know
Speaker 15: the answer, I'll go find the answer and I'm not
Speaker 15: gonna try to make it up. So don't do it
Speaker 15: to me either.
Speaker 3: Lastly, real quick, tell us explain to us the draftman
Speaker 3: clean up one last time.
Speaker 15: Yes, So basically we will meet over there tomorrow morning
Speaker 15: about seven forty five, and they're gonna give us some
Speaker 15: gloves and some hats, and hopefully I had I may
Speaker 15: take my own, But nonetheless.
Speaker 14: We're gonna walk around.
Speaker 15: The community and we're gonna pick up the trash and
Speaker 15: clean up and get engaged and talk to one another.
Speaker 14: I'm gonna bring some music.
Speaker 15: Because I'm all about music, but it's people within the
Speaker 15: athletic department, and I believe that there's a local charter
Speaker 15: school that will be out there with us as well,
Speaker 15: and so they'll be next to us, and I.
Speaker 14: Have to pick their brain and they'll get to pick
Speaker 14: my brain.
Speaker 15: Say the most important as for about two hours.
Speaker 2: Most important question of the day. What are you listening
Speaker 2: to right now? What's your what's your joy? Yeah? What
Speaker 2: do you what do you put on?
Speaker 14: Listen? Anytime? I'm in my car because I.
Speaker 15: Think I can sing. I really can't sing, but it
Speaker 15: is typically a song by Monica and I built it out.
Speaker 1: Listener.
Speaker 14: You know.
Speaker 3: Yes, Blake's a music guy. That's why he asked you
Speaker 3: the question. He loves this stuff. But thanks, coach. Thanks coach,
Speaker 3: have fun tomorrow if you can have fun doing what
Speaker 3: you're doing. How many people are out there?
Speaker 15: I know at least twenty, at least twenty. It could
Speaker 15: be more, but I know it's at least twenty of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, So if anybody's out there seeing you, guys, give
Speaker 3: him a honk, get thumbs up.
Speaker 15: Yes, brother horn on, Please I'll be waving.
Speaker 3: Thanks a bunch, have a good summer, and we'll see
Speaker 3: you in the fall.
Speaker 14: Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it, right, coach, appreciate it. Those Arita Stubbs
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Speaker 20: to this horrible slump and she calls crime, Dad, you
Speaker 20: got to come and then get tea work with me.
Speaker 20: And I said, jes Me, going to Texas and doing
Speaker 20: tea work ain't going to get you out of your slum, dude.
Speaker 20: And so a couple of weeks later, fast forward, and
Speaker 20: she breaks out with a vengeance. She goes something like
Speaker 20: thirteen for fourteen and I said, so what happened? She goes,
Speaker 20: You're not going to believe this, And I said, what's that?
Speaker 20: She goes, Remember how much I hated Coach Bryce, And
Speaker 20: I said, yeah, she goes, but he always told me,
Speaker 20: e f and figure it out, figure it out on
Speaker 20: your own. And she says, I drew back on that,
Speaker 20: and that's how I got out of it.
Speaker 3: That's a good story.
Speaker 2: I was laughing because I've had I've had that playing
Speaker 2: experience with those kind of coaches. Yeah uh, but I
Speaker 2: mean one that we speak at total is like just
Speaker 2: be better. You wanted to be better, be better.
Speaker 3: In sadly, the more the coaches get on you, the
Speaker 3: more they're they're they're concerned about you because they see
Speaker 3: some promising.
Speaker 2: I just say this, and Vic, you know this from
Speaker 2: being in that world. When a coach stops talking to you,
Speaker 2: and that's that's the problem, no question.
Speaker 20: So that's why I like calling when you're on Blake
Speaker 20: And like I said, I know you're talking with coach
Speaker 20: stuffs about that, and I honestly, just real quick, I
Speaker 20: know there was a coach in Northern twos on the
Speaker 20: loss his job today, and he's a pretty darn good
Speaker 20: one and it was because of parent pressure and all that.
Speaker 2: And that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the worst thing that happened to kids are the
Speaker 3: parents and all that stuff, the pressure.
Speaker 2: Vic.
Speaker 3: You know what I got from your conversation, for that
Speaker 3: five minute conversation, that you're white. That you're white. That
Speaker 3: means you know what, I'm white. Were given your last name.
Speaker 20: Okay, we're the only brown guy.
Speaker 2: We have to change the name of the show to
Speaker 2: the Whos.
Speaker 20: There there you go, But you.
Speaker 15: Guys got a great show.
Speaker 20: And I tell you, Steve, when this guy's on, I
Speaker 20: love because I have baseball in my life every day,
Speaker 20: whether it's softball or going somewhere. It's uh I, I
Speaker 20: just can't get that. And you know what, that little
Speaker 20: yellow ball has kept me and my daughters together. And
Speaker 20: they're thirty now, and and I call him and our
Speaker 20: conversation begins with softball. So some form.
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you, he's no Andy Lopes, but
Speaker 3: he's a good three.
Speaker 15: He's a little bit behind, but you're right.
Speaker 3: And actually I love the.
Speaker 20: When Andy's son in law was on the other day.
Speaker 2: That was odd Dallas. Yeah, yeah, thanks, yeah, thanks Vic.
Speaker 20: Okay you guys take care.
Speaker 3: Thanks Vic Wost I tell you that was a good call.
Speaker 3: Well to hold that thought. Uh the good cop bad cup? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is that where we're okay? Were you one?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Go ahead? So were you won both? Can you do both?
Speaker 2: I think you started where you start losing facete to players. Right,
Speaker 2: you don't want to be you want to be yourself. So,
Speaker 2: like coach Stubbs said, you have to be vulnerable, set
Speaker 2: an example.
Speaker 6: You're there.
Speaker 2: You care for the kids. You care for, whether it's
Speaker 2: not a stop right, you want to see them for
Speaker 2: the rest of their life, a successful and you can
Speaker 2: be an a hole when that time comes, and it's
Speaker 2: deserved to be an a hole, and you have to
Speaker 2: be honest. But I think playing a role just it's
Speaker 2: a it's a facade.
Speaker 3: It's a fake facade.
Speaker 2: And kids are too smart, young men, young women are
Speaker 2: too smart or smart and they're gonna say no exactly.
Speaker 3: It's like parents are getting divorced. The kids know exactly
Speaker 3: what's going on. You can go close the doors and
Speaker 3: start yelling at each other and they can't hear you. Right, No,
Speaker 3: of course, but I think you're right about coach Stubbs
Speaker 3: saying that you have to be who you are, you can't.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could do that in a sense.
Speaker 3: Is I could be a jerk? I could be. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you ask a couple of people. But I'm too
Speaker 3: nice of a guy to be that jerk. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'd be saying, come on, just kind
Speaker 3: of do the job, guys, just to that I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be able to rent and rave. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: I think there's times and places, Oh yeah, go right.
Speaker 3: One of the things I say, you got to know
Speaker 3: when to hug him and no one to kick him
Speaker 3: in the butt. But there's also that, God do I
Speaker 3: hate to kick you in the buck?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is Andy Andy's Lopez is famous for this. Right,
Speaker 2: you're talking like two hour player meetings after games, right
Speaker 2: lights are off, He's still in the outfield. It's a
Speaker 2: little bit different because he is maybe the greatest, one
Speaker 2: of the greatest public speakers around. But I had assistant
Speaker 2: coaches or coaches around me that would do that. Like
Speaker 2: if I was if I was at a tournament and
Speaker 2: we had four or five teams playing and I'd stick
Speaker 2: around and you listen to coaches, and at some point
Speaker 2: I would just say, listen, you're having a thirty minute
Speaker 2: discussion post game every single time. You have a detention
Speaker 2: span of maybe thirty seconds with those players, right, So
Speaker 2: at some point none of this is getting through them,
Speaker 2: and it's not the time and place like hit on
Speaker 2: it and you can say, listen, you have to up.
Speaker 2: Let's move on. We're going to have a longer discussion
Speaker 2: tomorrow or whatever next practice is. That's the last place
Speaker 2: they know we know as players. Sure, I know when
Speaker 2: I sucked. Hitting in the car with my dad at
Speaker 2: times was not the greatest thing, and I needed an
Speaker 2: ass kicking, right and I needed I need that conversation.
Speaker 2: But I mean, there's a time and place, so let
Speaker 2: me go to that point.
Speaker 3: Just because you made you made the point here us
Speaker 3: players know exactly who's the best player on the team,
Speaker 3: or you can depend on who's going to come through
Speaker 3: with a hit when you need one. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about being a captain or non captain blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: because you know, without naming names, who's gonna come through
Speaker 3: for you at whatever time, whether he's a captain or
Speaker 3: not captain.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and I've we've I've
Speaker 2: coached teams that we've had one captain, we've had two captains,
Speaker 2: we've had no captains, we've had three captains. You have
Speaker 2: to know we talked about with you a basketball the
Speaker 2: time and place or the level of where you're at. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and level where you're at, and who is actually going
Speaker 2: and it might not be your most likely one of
Speaker 2: them is not going to be your best player. When
Speaker 2: when people just start appointing the best players on the
Speaker 2: team captains, that's not good. That's not always going to work.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You want the guy that's going to show up first
Speaker 2: and leave last, like people will follow that guy. And
Speaker 2: then you want your first, second, or third best player
Speaker 2: to be the other co captain because they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: now this goes in hand.
Speaker 15: Well.
Speaker 3: So some of the best coaches were the guys who
Speaker 3: didn't play. They have sat on the bench and they observed,
Speaker 3: they observed, you know, what to do in time in circumstance.
Speaker 2: I had a coach in double A Brewer was my
Speaker 2: pitching coach, and he was I don't want to say
Speaker 2: it because I was so close with two other coaches,
Speaker 2: pitching coaches, but just from a like like he was
Speaker 2: no nonsense, like he was like, I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: anything else. You want to talk about pitching when you
Speaker 2: talk to and he's like, this is how you're gonna
Speaker 2: attack hitters, That's how you're gonna set up. And it
Speaker 2: blew me away in a good way, a great way.
Speaker 2: And he never played I mean he played college baseball.
Speaker 3: He was analytical, but he had to work so much
Speaker 3: harder because he didn't have namesake, no, no, I hear you
Speaker 3: so and it goes you want a guy that knows
Speaker 3: has been there, done that right and you can speak
Speaker 3: to it, but you also want a guy that's going
Speaker 3: to grind with you.
Speaker 14: Guys.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also a reason why like Michael Jordan them
Speaker 3: could coach, because you're thinking player in the world, there's
Speaker 3: nobody that has his ability. Like you're gonna say, you're
Speaker 3: gonna say, how can you not do this? I did
Speaker 3: it all the time.
Speaker 2: Well it's different where uh I was just watching a
Speaker 2: video and I ray, you might know this. There's a
Speaker 2: it was like Kwame Brown, but it wasn't Kwame Brown
Speaker 2: with somebody that was like I can I should play.
Speaker 2: I should be playing more. I can beat anybody. I
Speaker 2: could beat Michael Jordan one on one. And he heard it,
Speaker 2: and and Michael Jordan's showed up to the gym like
Speaker 2: two days later and they played one on one and
Speaker 2: Jordan like he was like eleven to one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So to your point, as a coach, like, there's just
Speaker 2: there's no there's no comparable player to you or skill level.
Speaker 3: And there have been those players who are good players,
Speaker 3: great players who have been able to coach, but they
Speaker 3: have that special.
Speaker 2: How many how many Hall of Fame coaches are Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame players? Yeah, I don't have to go in
Speaker 2: any sport, right, I mean I think Bird was a
Speaker 2: pretty good coach with Indiana when he first got there,
Speaker 2: but he didn't. But you're not not a Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame coach by any means, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think he's a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 2: I mean I say, say Thomas was somewhat of a
Speaker 2: dumpster fire.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, And he was kind of like a wishy,
Speaker 3: washy type of person too, you know, you know Paul
Speaker 3: Westfall the Sons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good coach. It didn't last long.
Speaker 3: But like we were talking before you have like a
Speaker 3: ten game swing and you're done. Malone, who just was
Speaker 3: player of the Year, player coach of the year two
Speaker 3: years ago, he's gone.
Speaker 2: You see what he's getting paid?
Speaker 3: Though, Okay, here's my question, Like these coaches that just
Speaker 3: get fired, right, just that just got fired, right, they
Speaker 3: still have to pay out their remaining contract. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I think it was Malone is still owed, Like is
Speaker 3: he fifty one million dollars? Well, to your point, I
Speaker 3: think did you say with the Phoenix Suns guys seventy
Speaker 3: five million? That was an exaggeration?
Speaker 2: Was it was forty nine million dollars for the Sons
Speaker 2: because it was pasted it was his past contract and
Speaker 2: this contract from a line from Malone.
Speaker 3: Yeahh so you were you were being a little exaggerate.
Speaker 3: But but they had three coaches, Williams, Vogel and now
Speaker 3: this guy, yeah, in three or four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that they're still all paying.
Speaker 3: You're paying more for those coaches, right than you are
Speaker 3: for players that you're currently on your roster. Like, don't
Speaker 3: how much money there is and at the next level, sure, maybe,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Is that a good way to spend money?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'd Like for me, we talked about this from an
Speaker 2: NBA standpoint, it doesn't make sense to me because you
Speaker 2: can't build a culture and what is the culture? Is
Speaker 2: it driven by a coach? Now? Is there really is
Speaker 2: there really coach in the NBA outside of I mean,
Speaker 2: I can think about maybe Golden State, maybe San Antonio,
Speaker 2: and maybe I'm wrong on a couple other ones, maybe Boston,
Speaker 2: But I think that's more front office that you're They're
Speaker 2: led by that front office, right, Yeah. I like the
Speaker 2: way okay, okay, see plays.
Speaker 3: I like the way that.
Speaker 2: Look hot Miami.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston, Miami. Houston.
Speaker 2: Miami is a good one too. Yeah, in Houston.
Speaker 3: The guy who played at Boston, right, he just had
Speaker 3: some personal issues that you could but all of a
Speaker 3: sudden he's got Houston. Yeah, but he's a great coach.
Speaker 3: You could tell that. That doesn't happen by accident. You
Speaker 3: just don't stumble into a good situation.
Speaker 2: But then you look at the other side of it,
Speaker 2: like and then people are you're getting fired mid season.
Speaker 2: I just that's to me, that's just too much turnover,
Speaker 2: right right, or even like right before the playoffs. But
Speaker 2: here's my question. Okay, so let's say, you guys are seconds.
Speaker 2: Both you guys are headquartered or head coaches. Right, you
Speaker 2: get next five years, you're guaranteed forty nine million dollars.
Speaker 2: Are you looking for another job? Are you like that's it?
Speaker 2: I'm done, Like I'm retiring, dude, I'm done. I'm John
Speaker 2: r Gi me on TV and I'll be I'll figure
Speaker 2: something out. Yeah, I don't even want to be on TV.
Speaker 3: I want I told Josh Josh Pastor, who's pretty good
Speaker 3: at being on TV. Very why would you deal with
Speaker 3: other crap? I think it's just it's a routine, right,
Speaker 3: You're so used to call the ego, and it's it's
Speaker 3: what you do.
Speaker 2: So we gotta go. You ruined it.
Speaker 3: You ruined it. I'm sorry.