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Speaker 1: on with the show, all right. Big for Society got
Speaker 1: the privilege of talking to Luna. She contacted me regarding
Speaker 1: an interesting experience she had out there near Mount Shasta
Speaker 1: in California. How's it going today, Luna?
Speaker 2: Good? How are you doing? And thank you for having
Speaker 2: me on?
Speaker 1: Absolutely I'm doing good. I'm glad to finally be able
Speaker 1: to talk to you. It's been a little bit of
Speaker 1: time getting this all together, but definitely gonna be worse
Speaker 1: to help get your story out my listeners. I think
Speaker 1: are really gonna enjoy it. It's a fascinating story. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to go ahead and give the
Speaker 1: floor right over to Luna and let you take it
Speaker 1: from here.
Speaker 3: All right. Well, my bigfoot story is an interesting one.
Speaker 3: I never really thought I would have run into Bigfoot
Speaker 3: or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Just to give a.
Speaker 3: Backstory, I started heading up to Mount Shasta. Well, I'm
Speaker 3: from Chico, California, so Mount Shasta is two hours away.
Speaker 3: That's where I was born and raised in chicos So
Speaker 3: hearing about bigfoot, well, that's a common thing in northern California.
Speaker 3: It's like a running joke when people go up to
Speaker 3: like Humboldt County, they have bigfoots up like the statues
Speaker 3: and things like that. So it was already something common
Speaker 3: that I would hear about. But in twenty twelve, I
Speaker 3: started going up to Mount Shasta more and I would.
Speaker 3: I started doing ceremony with a Karok vision quest and
Speaker 3: sun dance, and we would talk about bigfoot. In the
Speaker 3: Karuk they they call bigfoot makiata. And it's very common
Speaker 3: within our indigenous communities and culture to talk about like
Speaker 3: bigfoot and little people and the fairies and things like
Speaker 3: that it's not really something that.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, like, it's just part of the culture.
Speaker 2: It's part of the medicine.
Speaker 3: And when I had my experience with Bigfoot, it was
Speaker 3: my first time doing vision quest. I was doing my
Speaker 3: first vision quest in the sweat lodge. And for those
Speaker 3: of you who don't know what a sweat lodge is,
Speaker 3: it's a ceremony where they do like three or four
Speaker 3: rounds depending on the tribe, and there is a lodge
Speaker 3: that is built and there's rounds of rocks that come in.
Speaker 3: But when I did my vision quest, there was no rocks.
Speaker 3: There's no fire. There was a fire going, but there
Speaker 3: was no rocks in there, so it wasn't be hot.
Speaker 3: And I spent over a day or in the lodge,
Speaker 3: which is something I want to do. So I got
Speaker 3: out and the vision questers that were up on the hill.
Speaker 3: So when you vision quest, it's like normally four days
Speaker 3: no food or water and you go up on the hill.
Speaker 2: I was down in the lodge.
Speaker 3: I stayed in the area because I was still holding
Speaker 3: space for the questers that were up all in the hill.
Speaker 3: This was over at Stuart Springs, which is in like
Speaker 3: outside of Weeds California, so it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes outside of Mount Shafts though, where you have
Speaker 3: to go up a little bit in the hill area,
Speaker 3: or it's like the west of Weed. And so we
Speaker 3: were up there. The grounds were still open to people
Speaker 3: that were coming there. So at the springs was it's
Speaker 3: a hot spring, so people would come and have baths
Speaker 3: camp out there, so it's still open to everybody else.
Speaker 3: And that night we were out in our camping area
Speaker 3: where we were holding space and we were eating, and
Speaker 3: I remember hearing this really big crunch, and I was like,
Speaker 3: what is that. I was like, that does not sound
Speaker 3: like a deer. Because when you live out in the mountains,
Speaker 3: you get or you're out there a lot, you get
Speaker 3: used to the noises, but you start to also listen
Speaker 3: to the different noises that animals make. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: that is not a deer. So I heard the crunch
Speaker 3: and I look out in the wooded area probably I
Speaker 3: don't know, like less than the quarter maybe like fifty
Speaker 3: feet on your feet, and I see bigfoot walking and
Speaker 3: I was like, huh.
Speaker 2: I stopped and.
Speaker 3: I was a little shocked because I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know what I just saw, and I remember looking
Speaker 3: one of my friends and I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what I just saw.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to my tent.
Speaker 3: And also just for everyone to understand, Envision Quest, there's
Speaker 3: no like drugs or anything like that use some people
Speaker 3: have that mistaken.
Speaker 2: Knowledge that happens.
Speaker 3: So that does not happen there. It is a dry ceremony.
Speaker 3: So when you go no food or water, it's no
Speaker 3: food or it's nothing. So that happened, and I go
Speaker 3: back to my tent that night, and I go to
Speaker 3: bed the next night.
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything to anybody.
Speaker 3: The next night, I'm in my tent and I think
Speaker 3: this is probably probably day three of the questers being
Speaker 3: up on the hill or night three of the questers
Speaker 3: being up on the hill. I'm in my tent. I'm
Speaker 3: waiting for someone that I think was going to come
Speaker 3: and be at Vision Quest as well. I remember there
Speaker 3: was a camper that came in with their car and
Speaker 3: they come in and.
Speaker 2: I just remember hearing a lot of noise.
Speaker 3: There was like all this walking in front of my tent,
Speaker 3: and I was like, why is this camper walking in
Speaker 3: front of my tent? So I open my tent and
Speaker 3: I look, nobody's there. I see the camper like setting up,
Speaker 3: but they're not anywhere near me. I also see that
Speaker 3: there's another camper that has their trailer right next to
Speaker 3: the other camper that was setting up. So I'm looking around.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: I close it.
Speaker 3: Here the steps again, and I was like, this is
Speaker 3: so odd, so I open it again.
Speaker 2: No one's there.
Speaker 3: I thought, well, my friend was right in front of
Speaker 3: me in their tent, and then another one of the
Speaker 3: elders was in front of him, so I close it again.
Speaker 3: I thought they were trying to play a joke on
Speaker 3: me or something. And it was a while later. I
Speaker 3: am just on my I was just in the tent.
Speaker 3: I was getting a message from my friend, and I
Speaker 3: think I was listening to some music.
Speaker 2: I was in my tent and.
Speaker 3: I look or I just look around for a moment
Speaker 3: and then I hear this noise and I hear.
Speaker 2: And I'm in my tent.
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing anything outside of it because it's closed up,
Speaker 3: and I stop. I'm like on my stomach, frozen, like
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I'm pale, freaking out. But I didn't
Speaker 3: even want to breathe because I thought it was a bear.
Speaker 3: So I wait and I'm just like terrified. I'm hearing
Speaker 3: this noise and about I don't know, thirty seconds a
Speaker 3: minute later, it felt like ten minutes. My friend that
Speaker 3: was in the other tent opens his tent and I
Speaker 3: can see him with the slash light. So I opened
Speaker 3: my tent right away and I was like, I think
Speaker 3: that's a bear and he's like, it's not a bear.
Speaker 3: There's nothing there. I'm like, I heard it, like I
Speaker 3: heard it next to the tent. I heard it breathing,
Speaker 3: like I something is there, and.
Speaker 2: He was like, nothing is there.
Speaker 3: Just go back to the bed. I'm like, no, like
Speaker 3: something is there. He's like, and he's with the splash light.
Speaker 3: He's looking around. He's like, there's no way that bear
Speaker 3: can at least run that fast. And he's like there's
Speaker 3: nothing there. He's like, I heard it, but there's nothing there.
Speaker 3: So I go back in my tent and I was like, no,
Speaker 3: I just had this odd feeling. I was like, whatever
Speaker 3: that is is coming back, and so I get my
Speaker 3: stuff because my car is like ten feet away. It's
Speaker 3: like right there, pretty close to my our camping spot,
Speaker 3: and this area is pretty open, like it's not like
Speaker 3: super wooded or anything like.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of trees and things like that, but
Speaker 3: there's just to give context, there's like a little bridge.
Speaker 3: There's like parking areas for people when they go down
Speaker 3: to the bath, so it still has an open area
Speaker 3: in the middle. So I grab my stuff and I
Speaker 3: go by his ten.
Speaker 2: He's like making fun of me. He's like what.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you guys, have fun. That thing is coming back.
Speaker 3: Whatever that is coming back. And I get right to
Speaker 3: my car and I smell the most pungent, disgusting smell
Speaker 3: I've ever smelled in my life, like poop and wet dog.
Speaker 3: And at that moment, I was like, that's bigfoot. I
Speaker 3: get in my car and the rest of that night
Speaker 3: is history. It was like, I get in my car,
Speaker 3: I grab my drum. I'm a drummer. I do Native
Speaker 3: American singing and drumming, Indigenous singing and drumming, so I
Speaker 3: was I grabbed my drum and I just was like,
Speaker 3: I do not know what I'm in for tonight, but
Speaker 3: we are in for something. And we were and about
Speaker 3: I don't know, thirty minutes an hour later, I just
Speaker 3: start to see, like I start to hear things. I
Speaker 3: start to hear like slight banging, but it's not incredibly
Speaker 3: loud at first, And as the night goes on, and
Speaker 3: it's like eleven o'clock midnight one am, it starts to
Speaker 3: get louder, and I hear my friend and the other
Speaker 3: elder talking to each other. But I see my friend
Speaker 3: their flashlight and they're getting something out of their tent.
Speaker 3: I'm like, cause I can see through my car window.
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to anyone. I'm just watching this happen.
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way I'm getting out of this car,
Speaker 3: and so I'm looking at my my friend like frantically
Speaker 3: trying to get something. And so I hear him like
Speaker 3: tell like the elder like I think it's the little
Speaker 3: people or like bigfoots behind the tree. I can see
Speaker 3: that I can see something or hear something, and he's
Speaker 3: like trying to get food, to offer them food, because
Speaker 3: we get taught that, like you give them an offering,
Speaker 3: and so he's throwing like I think apples are something
Speaker 3: out there, just so they have an offering and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So I think I fall asleep for about an hour
Speaker 3: maybe hour and a half, I wake up again to
Speaker 3: the same thing. They're talking to each other and he's like,
Speaker 3: I think the Bigfoot is behind the tree, and I
Speaker 3: remember I start drumming and I start singing, and it's
Speaker 3: pretty common for us to talk about Bigfoot coming to ceremony,
Speaker 3: and so I like hear him from a panic. But
Speaker 3: then I look over and I see the elder's tent
Speaker 3: flipped over, and the elder is like, I think the
Speaker 3: female big foo's putting and the little people are putting
Speaker 3: poop in my nose. And I'm just like, what is
Speaker 3: happening right now? And I'm looking at the tent completely flipped.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I do not know what happened. And so
Speaker 3: they're talking to each other and he's.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. Do I give him an offering?
Speaker 2: Like what do we do? And so I hear that
Speaker 2: for a while.
Speaker 3: Then probably about a half hour later, an hour later,
Speaker 3: it starts to get really loud.
Speaker 2: The banging starts to get loud.
Speaker 3: It's like they're banging cars or they're grabbing rocks and
Speaker 3: throwing them. And I see the campers that are not
Speaker 3: with us. They have nothing to do with the ceremony
Speaker 3: nothing to do with vision quest. I see them open
Speaker 3: their door and start to look for the flashlight, like
Speaker 3: their flashlight, and like they're flashing their light out there,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, this is not just us hearing this,
Speaker 3: And it progressively got louder and louder as the time
Speaker 3: went on. I just sat in my car and I
Speaker 3: did not know what to do because I was like,
Speaker 3: this is insane.
Speaker 2: I cracked the window a little bit I was hearing.
Speaker 3: I never heard any growls or anything, but it was
Speaker 3: like the constant beating of something.
Speaker 2: And so I there's a.
Speaker 3: Big sit song that we drum, and so I think
Speaker 3: I sang that. And it was probably like pretty close
Speaker 3: to the sun coming up, and I could start to
Speaker 3: hear the birds like chirping, but I was hearing the
Speaker 3: banging getting.
Speaker 2: Louder and louder.
Speaker 3: And then as the sun came up, and as I
Speaker 3: could start to see everything and the birds were getting louder,
Speaker 3: I hear one final bang. It was like if I
Speaker 3: grabbed a boulder or something just through it, and then
Speaker 3: it just stopped. About fifteen twenty minutes later, my friend
Speaker 3: comes out of their tent. The elder comes out of
Speaker 3: their tent and I see them and I feel safe, and.
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 3: Something like what was that. They're like, we were visited.
Speaker 3: I was like, do you think you think we were?
Speaker 3: And he can so we're talking about it and he's like,
Speaker 3: go back to sleep, and I'm like, I can't. You
Speaker 3: can sleep after that? I cannot, And so they're like
Speaker 3: making fun of me. If you do ceremony, you get
Speaker 3: used to this kind of stuff happening. So I go
Speaker 3: down to the fire because when they're ceremony happening, there's
Speaker 3: always a fire. You're holding the space with fire and
Speaker 3: the code down the elders down there, and I'm just
Speaker 3: like trying to get the story out, like my anxiety.
Speaker 3: I'm like freaking out, and he's just laughing and he's
Speaker 3: like so bigfooting for.
Speaker 2: His woman, and I was like, this is not funny.
Speaker 3: And I ended up getting the name in my community
Speaker 3: Bigfoot's girlfriend.
Speaker 2: And that was what happened in that occasion.
Speaker 3: But it has not been my only run in with Bigfoot,
Speaker 3: but that was probably.
Speaker 2: The most prevalent one.
Speaker 3: It was like the first time I had that, But
Speaker 3: since then, Bigfoot has stuck around and I've had experiences
Speaker 3: here and there. I also had an experience in Yosemite
Speaker 3: where I was with friends Big for.
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Speaker 3: We were at a back glaci Your Point, and we
Speaker 3: were in Yosemite for a few days. And when you
Speaker 3: go to Glacier Point at night, they have the guy
Speaker 3: that's he has like the laser and if you haven't
Speaker 3: been to Glacier Point, it's like where you can see
Speaker 3: half Dome and you can just see all of Yosemite.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3: We went there during the day and someone was like,
Speaker 3: you guys, got to come back here at night so
Speaker 3: you can see the stars, and they give a presentation.
Speaker 3: So we did that and I was like almost over
Speaker 3: and we decided to walk back to our cars pretty early,
Speaker 3: me and my friends, where everybody else in our group
Speaker 3: was still there.
Speaker 2: I think there was like ten of us or something,
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 3: The three of us decided and let's go back to
Speaker 3: the car early and we can head back to the Airbnb,
Speaker 3: or just wait for everybody to get to their car
Speaker 3: before everybody starts walking, because there's quite a bit of people.
Speaker 3: There's I think fifty people out there, and so a
Speaker 3: few people started got that idea and was also walking
Speaker 3: back to their car. And so we get back into
Speaker 3: like the parking lot area. It's not that far of
Speaker 3: a walk down, and I just remember it got really quiet.
Speaker 3: I could see my friend, I could see her sister,
Speaker 3: and we're walking down and I'm just like hearing this
Speaker 3: banging as we get closer to the bathroom areas and
Speaker 3: it got really early quiet, Like I was just like,
Speaker 3: where did everybody go?
Speaker 2: Like I knew we weren't the only ones that walked down.
Speaker 3: And we get closer this bathroom and I'm just hearing
Speaker 3: this banging. Like there's the chains that are below that
Speaker 3: I think like block off some of the trees and
Speaker 3: things like that. It was like someone was grabbing the
Speaker 3: chains and messing with them. I was like, that's so annoying,
Speaker 3: Like who is doing that?
Speaker 2: Some kid? I don't know, Like they need to stop.
Speaker 3: The adult in me was like irritated at that point.
Speaker 3: And so we're walking past the bathroom and I'm like,
Speaker 3: that must be someone by the bathroom, But I look
Speaker 3: into the bathroom and it's dark, no one's in there
Speaker 3: as we're walking by, and I'm like, that's really strange.
Speaker 3: And we passed that bathroom and we're almost to the car.
Speaker 3: The car was going to be to the left of us,
Speaker 3: and I remember hearing.
Speaker 2: This deep growl. It was like and I was like,
Speaker 2: I look at my friend and I was like run.
Speaker 2: So we run to the.
Speaker 3: Car and the three of us do we run to
Speaker 3: my car? Actually, and I'm just like, do not know
Speaker 3: what's happening. We get in my car and I would
Speaker 3: look at my friend and I was like, did you
Speaker 3: hear that? And she was like yes, and I'm like
Speaker 3: I And then I asked her sister.
Speaker 2: I'm like, did you hear that? And there she was like.
Speaker 3: No, I just thought you guys running and I ran
Speaker 3: and so I was like, y'all, I think that's bigfoot.
Speaker 3: There's no way that's a bear. There's no way that's
Speaker 3: a mountain lion. Like I've been around those things. That's
Speaker 3: not that. And so they had heard the banging too
Speaker 3: and things like that. They're like, we just thought some
Speaker 3: almost hitting something. And so I go, I get We
Speaker 3: get in the car and I drive back like to
Speaker 3: the I drive to the part of the parking lot
Speaker 3: that happened because it was just right there. But I
Speaker 3: turned the car back that way and I just like
Speaker 3: offered it a song, but I was so terrified at
Speaker 3: that point, and so we ended up going back. And
Speaker 3: to give context, my friends are not they're there, they
Speaker 3: don't do ceremony, they don't do any of that, so
Speaker 3: none of like they have never experienced what I do,
Speaker 3: and that they knew what I did and things like that.
Speaker 3: They knew that I was a healer, but they're not
Speaker 3: in that world like I am. So for them they
Speaker 3: had they were like, we don't know what's going on,
Speaker 3: and so I'd explained to them that was probably back
Speaker 3: the one with Vision Quest happened probably and like I
Speaker 3: think I was like thirty two thirty three, so that
Speaker 3: was probably like twenty fourteen around there, and then maybe
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, and then the one in Yosemite I think
Speaker 3: was probably around twenty seventeen. And that was probably the
Speaker 3: last time that I had like a big encounter.
Speaker 2: With bigfit like that. But I've had little stuff.
Speaker 3: Here and there that I'm like, but that hasn't been
Speaker 3: like those two. But those are my two really big
Speaker 3: encounters with them.
Speaker 1: Luna, thank you for sharing something that came to mind
Speaker 1: while you were talking. I was like, man, it just
Speaker 1: it brought something to mind. There's an old bigfoot website
Speaker 1: called Bigfoot Encounters, and they have a section about Mount
Speaker 1: Shasta about different There's a lot of different Bigfoot interactions
Speaker 1: that have happened over the years around Mount Shasta.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have a lot of friends that have
Speaker 2: similar story.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure one of the accounts is a let's see,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read it real quick. Bigfoot came out
Speaker 1: of the forest, knocking off a branch at the nineteen
Speaker 1: foot level. This is by Bunny Flat's campground. Bigfoot gave
Speaker 1: them a crystal and went back into the woods. A
Speaker 1: medicine man named Charlie Tom said, if you're in trouble
Speaker 1: in the woods, to sing the Bigfoot song and Bigfoot
Speaker 1: would help you.
Speaker 3: So Charlie Tom is actually what is the I never
Speaker 3: met him because when I started doing ceremony with Walking Eagle,
Speaker 3: like he had already passed, but he was like their
Speaker 3: intercessor before Walkie Eagle took over.
Speaker 2: I believe, do you want me to sing the song?
Speaker 2: I can sing the song the song that I know.
Speaker 1: I was gonna get there and aroundabout ways, but I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be like very offensive because it's a
Speaker 1: super cultural thing, I would imagine, but yeah, go right,
Speaker 1: I've sung it before.
Speaker 2: Usually I've asked spirit.
Speaker 3: I just always tell people like always like respect the
Speaker 3: medicine and things like that. I don't have my drum
Speaker 3: with me, and I might not sing the song correctly
Speaker 3: because it's been a while, but I'll sing the verse
Speaker 3: that my elder taught me that I you know, Charlie
Speaker 3: tomp did teach him.
Speaker 4: So it was like yeah he yeah he yah, yeah yeay,
Speaker 4: yeah hey ho yeah hey yah yu.
Speaker 2: And you would sing that four times. The elders also
Speaker 2: taught me.
Speaker 3: Like that, if you hit the tree three times in
Speaker 3: a row, you could be calling Bigfoot two. And that
Speaker 3: does happen in Mount Shasta. There's so many stories. That's
Speaker 3: just my Bigfoot story. I could give the stories about
Speaker 3: a lot of things that have I've seen and I've experienced,
Speaker 3: but that area, there is so many stories of people
Speaker 3: running into big fa. Actually, that story that you said
Speaker 3: is the first time I've heard someone running into Bigfa
Speaker 3: on Mount Shasta, because Bunny Flats is pretty up there. Bunny,
Speaker 3: have you been to Mount Shasta.
Speaker 1: I haven't had the privilege of actually going to a
Speaker 1: lot of areas out there. I'm in Central Iowa.
Speaker 2: So Okay.
Speaker 3: So Bunny Flats is right before like right the highest
Speaker 3: that you can go in the winter because they close
Speaker 3: or actually even in the spring about ten months of
Speaker 3: the year because they close the road right at Benny Flats.
Speaker 3: It's where a lot of the skiers go. The skiers
Speaker 3: will stay the night there. So there's a lot of
Speaker 3: interesting experiences at Bunny Flats. Past Bunny Flats, the highest
Speaker 3: you can go is Panther Meadows and a lot of
Speaker 3: Mount Shasta is care territory. So Charlie Tom and a
Speaker 3: lot of the elders that in the wind to it,
Speaker 3: I believe, and so you hear a lot of the
Speaker 3: stories from them. I can't remember though, if that vision
Speaker 3: quest was the vision quest that elder taught me the
Speaker 3: Bigfoot song, so as.
Speaker 2: Possible we called it, could have called it in that way.
Speaker 2: But there are stories.
Speaker 3: I have a friend that they foot like when in
Speaker 3: for another car driving out there.
Speaker 2: A lot of the locals we talk about it.
Speaker 3: It's very much like almost like a part of just
Speaker 3: living there, even like the ranchers, just people that what
Speaker 3: you wouldn't think like they don't really believe in this stuff.
Speaker 3: It's not anything that they're into, but they have the experience.
Speaker 3: And so within the community we talk about Bigfoot, the Limerians,
Speaker 3: the little people, the fairies, like that's all very common. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's all very common if you ever go to Mount Shasta.
Speaker 3: Just it's just the stories, like from the locals. When
Speaker 3: before I moved there, like it was just I would
Speaker 3: I went to the Motel six to get a room and.
Speaker 2: The girl was like yeah, and the Limyrians he was like.
Speaker 3: Talk about it like nothing, like they all talk about
Speaker 3: it like normally.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, listeners probably right now are like I'm going
Speaker 1: to reach through the phone and just take me out,
Speaker 1: Like you didn't even address what her story was. Don't worry,
Speaker 1: guys were getting there. But so this the Bigfoot song
Speaker 1: that Charlie Tom had, is that that's the same song
Speaker 1: that you were singing in your a cow.
Speaker 3: I think so one of the elders taught it to me.
Speaker 3: I'm not completely sure sure, because everything gets passed down
Speaker 3: through storytelling. One of the elder that taught me, he
Speaker 3: taught me while we were at ceremony, But it might
Speaker 3: be the same one because I know someone else who
Speaker 3: thinks it.
Speaker 2: If not, it just really depends.
Speaker 3: But it the medicine is there and they call them
Speaker 3: in that way, or you give the respect to Bigfoot
Speaker 3: in that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the song is beautiful. Does any of it translate
Speaker 1: to does it come across it all in English? Or
Speaker 1: is it a saying where we're just we're really not
Speaker 1: able to understand what's being said in the song.
Speaker 3: I remember him telling me, but I don't quite remember
Speaker 3: what the direct translation was because it's been so long. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember the words. I always remember the words to
Speaker 3: the songs. I don't always remember the translation, but I
Speaker 3: do remember someone else that was that. I'm still friends
Speaker 3: with a lot of them and do ceremony with them
Speaker 3: that told me that the song was I think maybe
Speaker 3: to the from the mother Bigfoot to the baby Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I'm not positive though, because it's been a while. But
Speaker 3: for me, when I sing the songs, it was always
Speaker 3: just about like giving that respect. But I don't sing
Speaker 3: it often because I definitely don't want to be calling them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, A thing I want to bring up or
Speaker 1: ask you, is it a thing where people would have
Speaker 1: to be careful actually playing that clip, like if they're
Speaker 1: out in the woods that it could actually do something,
Speaker 1: or is the recording wouldn't be as potent as like
Speaker 1: if there's an actual in real life ceremony.
Speaker 3: I think for me because I just am always in
Speaker 3: that space, like you know what. To be honest, I'm
Speaker 3: not positive because it's happened to me at random times
Speaker 3: and we've sang that song and not had an experience
Speaker 3: with Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: I just think it's.
Speaker 3: Bigfoot does what Bigfoot does, true, So yeah, you could
Speaker 3: be opening that invitation, but you just never really know.
Speaker 3: But if if someone's just listening to it because they
Speaker 3: want to see Bigfoot most of the time that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: I think it really has to be like you're in
Speaker 3: your heart and because Bigfoot can sense that, so it
Speaker 3: just really depends.
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that and it happened.
Speaker 3: So I think a lot of times it's like when
Speaker 3: we don't have the expectations. But I've also been told
Speaker 3: you can hit the trees three times with the branch
Speaker 3: and you're calling them in.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've left like like pocados out for Bigfoot and things
Speaker 3: like that, but just to honor him, not because I
Speaker 3: want to like for them not because I want to
Speaker 3: have that experience again, because literally, since then, I do
Speaker 3: not camp. I literally don't go camping, and if I do,
Speaker 3: I sleep in my car. I will not sleep in
Speaker 3: a tent. It's not happening.
Speaker 1: It's interesting you brought up the knock or the three times,
Speaker 1: because that's the thing. Like I've recorded wood knocks myself
Speaker 1: in Iowa in a weekend out in the woods, and
Speaker 1: like the wood knocks I recorded were sets of three's,
Speaker 1: and that comes out in many different interviews that I've
Speaker 1: done over the years. It's just really it's an interesting
Speaker 1: little fact that I don't know. It's a thread that
Speaker 1: keeps running through it, and there's many different threads I
Speaker 1: feel like as well. But getting back to your first
Speaker 1: encounter that you had, you mentioned at the beginning, like
Speaker 1: you did actually see bigfoot the one time at the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thinking back to that, are you able to describe, like
Speaker 1: in any way what you saw or if you remember
Speaker 1: certain characteristics about what you saw?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what I think I saw was a female bigfoot,
Speaker 3: and I remember it like the way that it walked
Speaker 3: was like a like almost but like upright, and the
Speaker 3: hair was almost like this very pretty orangey brown. I
Speaker 3: do remember that and thinking that was interesting, but the
Speaker 3: shape of it just seemed like it was either like
Speaker 3: a junior bigfoot or like it was a no. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I will never forget that. I think that image will
Speaker 3: always be with me. That was the only time that
Speaker 3: I physically saw a big foot, and then when and
Speaker 3: then I smelled them one.
Speaker 1: Big for society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: Actually no, I think I've smelled them like twice.
Speaker 1: So were you able to see anything of the face
Speaker 1: of the bigfoot at all during that time?
Speaker 3: So it was when it was walking, It was like
Speaker 3: I could see the side, so I saw more of
Speaker 3: the profile. I remember like it had a lot more
Speaker 3: hair like around the hands, and the face looked more
Speaker 3: like man an ape mixed together, more like a smash
Speaker 3: nose like like the crinkly skin around like the cheeks.
Speaker 2: And the nose in that area.
Speaker 3: I do remember that, But it wasn't this super dark
Speaker 3: like hair that I think a lot of times people
Speaker 3: see or think of when they think of.
Speaker 1: Fixit, longer hair, shorter hair, You remember anything about the length?
Speaker 3: So the body like shaggy, a little bit and a
Speaker 3: little bit matted in some areas. I would say probably
Speaker 3: about like three inches of hair, maybe four, but like
Speaker 3: around like the lower part of the arms is where
Speaker 3: I felt like it. It was longer hair and around
Speaker 3: like the feet area, lower legs. I would say more
Speaker 3: like that's more like four or five inches.
Speaker 1: Sure, did you get a feel for how tall it
Speaker 1: seemed to be?
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 3: Well over seven feet It was pretty tall. My ex
Speaker 3: was probably like six', four SO i would say was
Speaker 3: at least a foot taller than.
Speaker 2: Him.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah you mentioned it was moving like an. Ape
Speaker 1: can you go into more detail about what that would
Speaker 1: mean to you about how something would Move my?
Speaker 3: Arms, okay the arm movement just like clunky and clumsy
Speaker 3: even with the, legs but, upright completely upright like a
Speaker 3: human would, walk but a little, hunched just a tad
Speaker 3: not like, extreme but like the arms seemed really dangly and.
Speaker 3: LENGTHY i do remember.
Speaker 2: That i'm, like that is so.
Speaker 3: Strange and it was just like walking through in the
Speaker 3: woods AND i just remember like just that, big clunky
Speaker 3: kind of, walk like long strides and what this long
Speaker 3: strides were like the arms going with, it but it
Speaker 3: wasn't like. Smooth it was just LIKE i don't, know
Speaker 3: not like a, bounce but and it looked, balanced but
Speaker 3: it was like the way that the arms, MOVED i,
Speaker 3: remember it was just that's what it reminded me of
Speaker 3: an ape a little.
Speaker 1: Bit the jest is really, interesting especially with the color
Speaker 1: of the. Hair that color comes out quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's, like it's interesting when people that are not
Speaker 1: into bigfoot WHEN i talk to them and they're, like
Speaker 1: it looked like in a range and, Tan i'm, like oh,
Speaker 1: man that is just it's weird how that comes out.
Speaker 3: Sometimes but you're for some, REASON i feel like the
Speaker 3: bigfoots in that area or that color or that seems
Speaker 3: to be THAT i don't, know like And i've noticed
Speaker 3: when people talk about bigfoot like in different parts of the,
Speaker 3: world like there's like different like fur, colors or they'll
Speaker 3: be like a specific kind of like big foot that
Speaker 3: they see in like The west, coast and then maybe
Speaker 3: on The East coast it's something. Else OR i know
Speaker 3: people talk about the yetties and things like, that but
Speaker 3: that one seems to be more like the COMMON i
Speaker 3: feel like in that.
Speaker 1: Area are there the bigfoot in The Mount shasta area
Speaker 1: from what you've, heard do they all. Have how many
Speaker 1: toes do they?
Speaker 2: Have? OH i don't.
Speaker 3: KNOW i just remember it being like a really, big
Speaker 3: LIKE i could see the foot THAT i didn't get
Speaker 3: a chance to really look at the.
Speaker 1: Toes AND i asked. That sometimes every once in a
Speaker 1: while they'll be, like oh so no four toed bigfoot
Speaker 1: in the, area it sounds, like which is a good?
Speaker 1: Thing that PRETTY i haven't.
Speaker 2: Heard, YEAH i haven't heard.
Speaker 3: THEM i think most of What I'VE i think a
Speaker 3: lot of times, too people are so shocked when that
Speaker 3: happens that they don't even have a chance to look
Speaker 3: at the feet or. Anything LIKE i just REMEMBER i
Speaker 3: probably got like a good thirty seconds or something of
Speaker 3: like just, staring, yeah UNTIL i was LIKE i and
Speaker 3: the next snapped out of, it LIKE i was LIKE
Speaker 3: i need to go, Back like it was pretty, shocking
Speaker 3: BUT i, yeah the growling part has definitely been interesting.
Speaker 3: Too but like they a few people have talked about
Speaker 3: how like sometimes they'll stare that didn't happen to.
Speaker 2: ME i don't know WHAT i would have done if
Speaker 2: that would have happened to, me to be, honest.
Speaker 3: But, yeah THOUGH i do remember the feet were pretty, big,
Speaker 3: gotcha and the hands like the hands and the feet
Speaker 3: just seemed like you didn't fit with the link of the.
Speaker 2: Body if that makes. Sense how far do you remember?
Speaker 1: That how far down did the Hands let's say you're
Speaker 1: looking at the, side you've got arms and hands at
Speaker 1: the end of. Them how far did those go down
Speaker 1: on the side of the, Body, like how far hanging
Speaker 1: down were?
Speaker 3: THOSE i would say probably we THINK i would, SAY.
Speaker 2: I feel like almost to the knee or around.
Speaker 3: There, okay it's JUST i just remember it being really like,
Speaker 3: dangly but LIKE i remember the hands being really big
Speaker 3: and really. Hairy that so were the.
Speaker 2: Feet so.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it was a pretty non aggressive, encounter
Speaker 1: which is a great. Thing that's HOW i took it
Speaker 1: from your. Story you would be the final, say since
Speaker 1: you were the one actually, there would you.
Speaker 2: Say WHEN i saw it was not?
Speaker 3: Aggressive, okay, yeah the? One well the ONE i mean
Speaker 3: that the next, NIGHT i would, say definitely freaking me.
Speaker 3: OUT i don't know why they were throwing, Stuff AND
Speaker 3: i still ask myself to that, day it's, like why
Speaker 3: what was.
Speaker 2: The point of? That and then what was the point to?
Speaker 3: Graul So i'm LIKE i have always, Asked i'm, like
Speaker 3: do they want something of.
Speaker 2: ME i don't.
Speaker 3: KNOW i don't have a question to, that because it's
Speaker 3: just like it's been a few like interesting, encounters And i'm,
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't have an. Answer they've never done anything
Speaker 3: to me or to anyone THAT i know that is.
Speaker 2: Harmful just everyone is.
Speaker 1: Scared oh, Sure, yeah you mentioned that you've also heard
Speaker 1: some things from friends acquaintances around the same. Area are
Speaker 1: there any that come to mind that you'd be able
Speaker 1: to share of other accounts that you've.
Speaker 3: Heard the one THAT i can share would be that
Speaker 3: he was driving HOME.
Speaker 2: I think from.
Speaker 3: Work it was pretty late at night In Mount, shasta
Speaker 3: And bigfoot just went in front of the car and
Speaker 3: stopped and looked at. Him but he's also another friend
Speaker 3: of mine that does ceremony was the. Same, well his
Speaker 3: family is the one that does. It SO i was,
Speaker 3: like when he told me that, story he told me
Speaker 3: a few other, ones and so a lot of us
Speaker 3: within that community had Our bigfoot. Encounters but even outside
Speaker 3: of it there's people. Too bigfoot is just really active
Speaker 3: in that. AREA i don't know if people can camp
Speaker 3: out In Stuart springs anymore because they've SINCE Covid day
Speaker 3: closed down that the part of, going like the part
Speaker 3: of being able to take a bath in the spring
Speaker 3: area and stuff or in the spring baths that they.
Speaker 3: Have but they do have like Camp they did have
Speaker 3: camping In. HOTEL i just don't know if it's still.
Speaker 3: OPENED i think it might. Be but the around, there
Speaker 3: Around Siski, lake there is camping At Siski lake and
Speaker 3: around the mountain areas.
Speaker 2: WHERE i feel like a lot more people have had.
Speaker 3: Experiences so you in the town like, AREA i haven't
Speaker 3: heard too, much but when you start to get more
Speaker 3: on the outskirts of the, town so you have like
Speaker 3: the mountains that are like in The Sisky lake is
Speaker 3: to the west and Then Mount shasta is more to
Speaker 3: like the east of, town and so that's a separate
Speaker 3: drive when you go up the mountain and you go
Speaker 3: to like sand flats and then Bunny flats and panther.
Speaker 3: Meadows there's a whole Other like the stories people have
Speaker 3: like in that area, too is a, lot.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like some of them don't really have
Speaker 1: the go ahead to, share which is totally. Understandable, YEAH
Speaker 1: i would.
Speaker 3: Have to ask because some of them have to do with,
Speaker 3: ceremony And i'm LIKE i don't know IF i have
Speaker 3: permission with, those that's. Why but the one in front
Speaker 3: of the, Car i'm sure it's. Fine BUT i remember
Speaker 3: when he told me about, that like actually there was
Speaker 3: somebody else Though i'm not like close friends with. Him
Speaker 3: it was JUST i went to an event and he
Speaker 3: talked About bigfoot and he said that he had an
Speaker 3: experience With bigfoot and up in the MOUNTAIN i, think
Speaker 3: And bigfoot was like behind the tree or he Saw
Speaker 3: bigfoot behind the tree and like just.
Speaker 2: Like stared at.
Speaker 3: HIM i can't remember if it was like around The
Speaker 3: Bunny flats, area because it was like probably it was
Speaker 3: quite probably like eight years ago WHEN i heard the
Speaker 3: story at an, Event BUT i know that he had
Speaker 3: that experience up there with, them probably multiple. Times, well
Speaker 3: for some, reason the people THAT i have heard that
Speaker 3: have had the run ins With bigfoot tend to have
Speaker 3: multiple up. There like it's not just a one time,
Speaker 3: deal like he comes back or they come. BACK i would,
Speaker 3: say see or she or they it happens.
Speaker 1: Again that seems to be an, occurring a reoccurring thread as.
Speaker 1: Well do you have any thoughts as to some Witnesses
Speaker 1: they do seem to have multiple interactions With. Bigfoot do
Speaker 1: you think there might be a reason for that Or.
Speaker 3: My personal reason IS i think that they're just people
Speaker 3: That bigfoot is connected.
Speaker 2: To or like they have that.
Speaker 3: ENERGY i that's WHAT i take Because i've been asking
Speaker 3: myself that question for a really long, time because it's
Speaker 3: just they continue to do. IT i haven't really been
Speaker 3: out in the mountains too. LONG i did live in
Speaker 3: mount WHEN i lived In. Dunsmere WHEN i lived In Mount,
Speaker 3: SHASTA i never.
Speaker 2: Had a bigfoot run.
Speaker 3: In but before THEN i did a, lot AND i
Speaker 3: just was always like, Why and my other friends that
Speaker 3: had the same, thing like they didn't know. Either my
Speaker 3: thought was always, like maybe like we hold something That bigfoot.
Speaker 3: RESPECTS i don't. KNOW i still to this day just
Speaker 3: continued to ask that. Question BUT i went To yosemite.
Speaker 3: RECENTLY i did not have an experience then BECAUSE i
Speaker 3: wasn't able to go To Glacier point or go to
Speaker 3: too many places because it was only for a, day
Speaker 3: for twenty four. HOURS i do remember hearing noises, outside
Speaker 3: BUT i don't know exactly what it.
Speaker 2: Was we were in a. Cabin BUT i.
Speaker 3: Just think that maybe the bigfoots like there's some people
Speaker 3: that they're attracted to for whatever. Reason that's really the
Speaker 3: only EXPLANATION i can think of at this.
Speaker 1: Point there's going to be some people listening to this
Speaker 1: that have never heard Of Mount shasta, before and this
Speaker 1: is totally like they have no idea What Mount shasta.
Speaker 1: Is have you ever experienced anything else out of the
Speaker 1: ordinary in The Mount shasta?
Speaker 2: Area how much time do you?
Speaker 1: Have it's like loaded, question, right.
Speaker 2: That is a loaded. QUESTION a. Lot i've experienced a
Speaker 2: lot in my.
Speaker 3: LIFE i was born with my, abilities SO i have
Speaker 3: always had weird experiences SINCE i was a little. Girl
Speaker 3: but my experiences That i've, had And i've had experiences
Speaker 3: Where i've seen, things not just being up, there but
Speaker 3: my experiences That i've had A Mount, shasta LIKE i
Speaker 3: physically had those. Experiences like there was no if answer
Speaker 3: butts about. IT i, like do.
Speaker 2: You want me to pick? One Because i'm, like there's a. Lot,
Speaker 2: YEAH i pretty much.
Speaker 1: For like seven, Years oh, wow, okay whatever you feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: Sharing AND i realized we don't have hours and, hours but,
Speaker 1: like if you feel comfortable sharing a few, things, definitely,
Speaker 1: yeah that'd be.
Speaker 3: Great So i've had quite a few up in The
Speaker 3: Panther Meadows Bunny flats. Area i'm trying to think of
Speaker 3: one THAT i had an experience with The man of
Speaker 3: The mountain there IS i had heard about The man
Speaker 3: of The mountain for a really long. Time and when you,
Speaker 3: So Bunny flats is only opened three months out of the.
Speaker 3: Year it is a very sacred areas where a lot
Speaker 3: of tribes would actually stay in the, summer so it's really.
Speaker 3: Protected it's also protected because of the plants and the
Speaker 3: ecosystem up. There and in the, winter obviously you can't
Speaker 3: really go up. There you're at the top of the,
Speaker 3: volcano like there's tons of.
Speaker 2: Snow it's not.
Speaker 1: Safe beg for the society will be right back after these.
Speaker 1: Messages but in.
Speaker 3: The summertime you can go camp and all that fun.
Speaker 2: Stuff SO i THINK i had just, moved like permanently
Speaker 2: moved up.
Speaker 3: There AND i want to say this was Probably october twenty, Seven,
Speaker 3: no either twenty seventeen or twenty, eighteen was either BEFORE
Speaker 3: i had moved To dunsmuir or the year. After and
Speaker 3: SO i went up AND i remember it being LIKE
Speaker 3: i think a few days Before, halloween because they always
Speaker 3: close it around like the thirty first Of november or
Speaker 3: being Of october or first Of, november depending on Whether
Speaker 3: sometimes it's, earlier sometimes it's a little. Later SO i
Speaker 3: remember going up there AND i was, LIKE i want.
Speaker 2: To go on a.
Speaker 3: HIKE i never had an issue going up by myself
Speaker 3: because there's tons of people up there all the, time
Speaker 3: and so when you're up a panther, meadows you're up
Speaker 3: there with like one hundred people fifty people that are
Speaker 3: just up, there and it's, open there's trails. Everywhere had
Speaker 3: gone the day, before AND i went back up BECAUSE
Speaker 3: i knew they were going to close it for the,
Speaker 3: season and so that used to be where the old
Speaker 3: ski bowl, was so it's called a called Old Ski bowl,
Speaker 3: area and that used to be where the ski park.
Speaker 3: Was now IT'S i think down the mountain. MORE i
Speaker 3: haven't actually been there Because i'm not a skier or
Speaker 3: a snow. Sporder SO i remember going back AND i was, like,
Speaker 3: okay LIKE i want to try different like trail area
Speaker 3: and it's, open like there's not a lot of trees
Speaker 3: because once you get closer to the top of the volcano,
Speaker 3: area the trees are different. Looking they're strange looking to,
Speaker 3: me AND i was, LIKE i don't remember that trail there.
Speaker 3: Yesterday let me go down. It SO i go down
Speaker 3: AND i THINK i had even done like A facebook
Speaker 3: live or, something AND i went out and, drummed AND
Speaker 3: i had my drum with, me And i'm going down
Speaker 3: this trail AND i stopped a bit and was doing my,
Speaker 3: thing AND i was going back on the. TRAIL i was,
Speaker 3: LIKE i THINK i want to go up this way
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i don't know if the water's over. HERE i
Speaker 3: was trying to look for the water that comes out
Speaker 3: of the top of the. Mountain there's like a, spout
Speaker 3: and my friends had told me about, it BUT i
Speaker 3: could never find. It it was actually easier than WHAT i,
Speaker 3: thought but that DAY i did not find.
Speaker 2: It So i'm going back.
Speaker 3: Down it's like to the left and more into like
Speaker 3: where a lot of the more of the trees were,
Speaker 3: at AND i see this old man with a cane
Speaker 3: And i'm, like oh, wow like he does not care all, right,
Speaker 3: cool like good for, him like getting some work. Out
Speaker 3: SO i see him walking really, slow AND i was,
Speaker 3: like let me walk this. Way but then LIKE i
Speaker 3: look back And i'm, like don't see.
Speaker 2: Him And i'm, like how did he move that? Fast
Speaker 2: and SO i keep.
Speaker 3: Walking towards that way AND i see him going like
Speaker 3: towards this other area And i'm, like this is so,
Speaker 3: weird and SO i don't know what in me thought
Speaker 3: it was, like, yeah let me follow this old man
Speaker 3: to this. Area AND i see him AND i hear
Speaker 3: him banging his cane against like different parts like where
Speaker 3: he was, walking And i'm, LIKE i think he wants
Speaker 3: me to follow. Him SO i go And i'm like
Speaker 3: what's over? Here And i'm walking and there's other people
Speaker 3: here and, there AND i get to the part where
Speaker 3: it's a hilly, area but he's up the hill. Already i'm,
Speaker 3: like what is happening? Here AND i start walking up
Speaker 3: AND i had just had vertigo that, year and SO
Speaker 3: i was taking it slow AND i get to the
Speaker 3: middle of it and just something and he was, LIKE
Speaker 3: i don't know about, This Like.
Speaker 2: I'm.
Speaker 3: Not i'm, like if he wants to take me in the,
Speaker 3: Mountain i'm not quite ready for. That and he was
Speaker 3: walking up on the top AND i stopped AND i was,
Speaker 3: LIKE i need to go back. Down it was just
Speaker 3: a small kind of hill AND i start going back,
Speaker 3: down BUT i feel LIKE i got. LOST i don't know,
Speaker 3: Why like there's no way to get. LOST i just
Speaker 3: need to go back. Down So i'm like trying to
Speaker 3: find my way. Down so it's not a long, walk
Speaker 3: it's like twenty feet thirty feet back. Down AND i
Speaker 3: see like, this like a little like whend tornado does
Speaker 3: tornado happening at the.
Speaker 2: Bottom and THEN i felt LIKE i was, like which
Speaker 2: we AM i supposed to?
Speaker 3: Go and so he's back down that hill AND i was,
Speaker 3: like this is so. Weird and so he starts hitting
Speaker 3: against rocks and things to help me down SO i
Speaker 3: can find my way back, down AND i, did and
Speaker 3: he goes, ahead And i'm going back out towards like
Speaker 3: the area where a lot more people are at and
Speaker 3: things like, that closer to the parking area and past the,
Speaker 3: trees SO i can get into that, area and he's,
Speaker 3: gone like he's not there.
Speaker 2: Anymore AND i look.
Speaker 3: Around i'm, like there is no way this old man
Speaker 3: was a cane is. GONE i look, Around i'm, looking
Speaker 3: AND i get past those trees And i'm looking, again
Speaker 3: And i'm getting closer towards the parking, area and like
Speaker 3: right before the parking area it's all. Open there's not
Speaker 3: a lot of trees out. There there's like little labyrinths
Speaker 3: that people make and things like, that and you'll find
Speaker 3: a lot of interesting. Stuff people leave hmm, there AND
Speaker 3: i am just like still like trying to figure out
Speaker 3: WHAT i just. Experienced and so all of a, SUDDEN
Speaker 3: i see someone working on the. Labyrinth THEN i go
Speaker 3: up And i'm, like this looks really. Nice you're doing
Speaker 3: an amazing. JOB a person starts freaking out and starts
Speaker 3: like their face is. COVERED i can't see their. Face
Speaker 3: they have like like a hat, on AND i see
Speaker 3: that their whole face is.
Speaker 2: Covered with like a wrap or something like a.
Speaker 3: Scar and all of a, sudden like they this panic
Speaker 3: and they were like.
Speaker 2: Damn AND i was like.
Speaker 3: WHAT i just run towards my. CAR i was, LIKE
Speaker 3: i don't know what's happening. Anymore and all of a,
Speaker 3: SUDDEN i run into this lady AND i was, LIKE
Speaker 3: i don't know what's.
Speaker 2: HAPPENING i was just, like this is so.
Speaker 3: WEIRD i was, LIKE i just came to find the.
Speaker 3: Water OH i did find the water that. DAY i was,
Speaker 3: LIKE i just came to find the water that comes
Speaker 3: out of the mountain up. Here someone told me about,
Speaker 3: it and so she took me, up.
Speaker 2: AND i mixed me.
Speaker 3: Emotional she took me, up we got some of the,
Speaker 3: water and we went back, down and, actually like she
Speaker 3: gave me her number When i'd seen her in town
Speaker 3: a few.
Speaker 2: Times BUT i don't think if it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't for, HER i don't know WHAT i would have.
Speaker 3: Done because it brought me. BACK i felt LIKE i
Speaker 3: went into another timeline or. FEAR i don't know what was,
Speaker 3: happening AND i just like felt LIKE i was big
Speaker 3: back my.
Speaker 2: Body ONCE i could talk.
Speaker 3: To her and she showed me where the water was
Speaker 3: and and. WHATNOT i will never forget that day, either
Speaker 3: like it AND i don't even have an explanation to
Speaker 3: what happened that. Day i'm, LIKE i, Wonder i'm, like
Speaker 3: were they trying to take me in the? Mountain like
Speaker 3: was he trying to show? Me because we've all talked
Speaker 3: about The Old man of The mountain not exactly WHAT
Speaker 3: i thought was going to. Be i've never seen him,
Speaker 3: again but that was a pretty impactful experience for, me
Speaker 3: just Like.
Speaker 1: Bigfoot, yeah so is that a legend that kind of
Speaker 1: goes around where other people have seen this old man
Speaker 1: of the mountain in that.
Speaker 3: Area, yeah there's people that are, like, YEAH i sat
Speaker 3: and talked with.
Speaker 2: HIM i was, LIKE i. DIDN'T i did.
Speaker 3: Not, Yeah so there's people that have said that they've
Speaker 3: gone in the mountain AND i thought that could be
Speaker 3: what was, happening or maybe he wanted to talk to,
Speaker 3: Me BUT i was, Like i'm not ready for that.
Speaker 3: Experience in, MYSELF i. KNEW i was, Like i'm not
Speaker 3: emotionally ready for. This i'm not spiritually ready for. This what,
Speaker 3: HAPPENS i go in there AND i can't come back. Out,
Speaker 3: No i'm, good that's not happening. HERE i was not,
Speaker 3: ready and SO i, left AND i definitely there's times
Speaker 3: That i've wanted to go back up there by myself,
Speaker 3: again BUT i just, Know i'm, like if that happens,
Speaker 3: Again i'm.
Speaker 2: Just going to freak out and then the way, Anyway
Speaker 2: SO i do go up. There i've been up there
Speaker 2: plenty of.
Speaker 3: TIMES i THINK i went up there like a few
Speaker 3: times again by, myself but normally NOW i just go
Speaker 3: hiking with friends in that. Area but, yeah there's a
Speaker 3: lot of stories that the people, had like having conversations
Speaker 3: with him and things like.
Speaker 2: THAT i never saw his.
Speaker 3: Face he was just he looked like an eighty year
Speaker 3: old man slowly. Walking SO i knew in my, MIND i.
Speaker 3: KNEW i was, like this has to be, him because
Speaker 3: there's no way he can make it up that hill
Speaker 3: BEFORE i could in that like least like almost felt like.
Speaker 1: Seconds what, If, yeah if it's LIKE. J. C brown
Speaker 1: stuck in time trying to find the treasure Of Mount. Shasta,
Speaker 1: STILL i don't. Know if you've read the stories Of
Speaker 1: jason Oh, man you've got to check it.
Speaker 2: Out.
Speaker 1: There so a lot of People Mount shasta known For.
Speaker 1: Bigfoot there's and then there's the Whole lumerian thing where
Speaker 1: people think there's a city that's Underneath Mount shasta of
Speaker 1: a different race of or, sorry how would you explain?
Speaker 3: It so The, LAMARIANS i know people that have said
Speaker 3: they've seen. Them The lamarians are like to, me like
Speaker 3: When i've worked with that, energy they're just like beans
Speaker 3: that have the, technology like they were supposedly here for
Speaker 3: a long, time and whatever happened with the, earth they
Speaker 3: went in because that's how they protect themselves or.
Speaker 2: Whatnot they're supposedly.
Speaker 3: Really tall and have like white robes and things like
Speaker 3: that seems to be what a lot of people in town.
Speaker 3: Say there's people that have lived in town for, years,
Speaker 3: decades their family has and so they talk about how
Speaker 3: like these tall people would go into the stores and
Speaker 3: they would buy things with, gold and those are very
Speaker 3: common stories that a lot of people have in town
Speaker 3: from family and friends and their grandparents and things like.
Speaker 3: That so supposedly like they are just advanced beans who
Speaker 3: can't really be out in public. Anymore that's what the
Speaker 3: main kind of story That i've heard from. Everybody they
Speaker 3: always tell you that you're not supposed to go past
Speaker 3: the tree, line so like that's their.
Speaker 2: Area you, like respect their.
Speaker 3: Area but funny thing is WHEN i went To Panther
Speaker 3: meadows this, SUMMER i had taken a friend up there
Speaker 3: and we were looking up at the tree line and
Speaker 3: she was she saw something that looked like, that and
Speaker 3: then it went away in an area that it would
Speaker 3: be impossible for someone to hike. In so they're, there
Speaker 3: they definitely will show. THEMSELVES i haven't heard of anyone
Speaker 3: recently see any in. TOWN i think that it's been
Speaker 3: a long time since something like that has. Happened but,
Speaker 3: yeah there are people that have talked about the city
Speaker 3: in the, mountain pellows and whatnot That plesley have seen.
Speaker 3: It there is someone that there are a few people
Speaker 3: that talk about the. Entrance i've never seen. It i'm
Speaker 3: not too sure where it's. At but WHEN i saw
Speaker 3: The man of The, mountain that's WHAT i. Thought he
Speaker 3: was maybe trying to show. Me BUT i was, LIKE
Speaker 3: i backed out of that, experience SO i was, like, Nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm. Good.
Speaker 1: Yeah i've read a few books about the mountain, area
Speaker 1: AND i think a common thread in the books is
Speaker 1: that a lot of people will they'll be, missing or
Speaker 1: they'll something will happen when they get above the tree.
Speaker 1: Line is that something that you've heard as.
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah i've heard a lot of those, stories which
Speaker 3: is WHY i respect. IT i respect the power of the.
Speaker 3: Mountain you're also on a. Volcano you never know what
Speaker 3: couldn't happen, anyways it's an active. Volcano it hasn't erupted
Speaker 3: in one hundred, years but still it's still. Active BUT
Speaker 3: i just my elders have always said you can go up,
Speaker 3: there but you are not to go past the tree.
Speaker 3: Line AND i respect. That there's a lot of hikers
Speaker 3: that go past up. There and they don't go, missing
Speaker 3: they don't have those. Experiences another, experience so THAT i
Speaker 3: do want to add to this story BECAUSE i feel
Speaker 3: like it's important because it keeps coming up And i'm
Speaker 3: Gonna i'm, Like, okay MAYBE i need to tell. It
Speaker 3: is one NIGHT i was sleeping In Bunny flats and
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people out there. Sleeping there's a
Speaker 3: lot of skiers and people that go snowboarding and things
Speaker 3: like sleep. There AND i REMEMBER i was sleeping up
Speaker 3: there BECAUSE i just wanted to sleep.
Speaker 2: Up in the. Mountain it's a. Mountain i'm, like it's
Speaker 2: so peace full up.
Speaker 3: There SO i was sleeping in my car and that's
Speaker 3: the common thing for a lot of people to do
Speaker 3: when they go up AND i KNEW i wasn't going
Speaker 3: to be. Alone So i'm in my car AND i
Speaker 3: see this really bright blue light up on the like
Speaker 3: the mountain area Of Bunny.
Speaker 2: Flats i'm, like that's really. Strange maybe that's a hiker up.
Speaker 3: There and about an hour, LATER i see another really
Speaker 3: huge blue, light and the rest of the, NIGHT i
Speaker 3: just kept seeing these huge blue lights.
Speaker 2: The size of the house just show up on the mountain.
Speaker 3: AND i was, like AND i kept looking at people
Speaker 3: outside that were coming back down from, hiking and it
Speaker 3: was really. Late some hikers stay up they're pretty, late
Speaker 3: And i'm talking about this is the top of the
Speaker 3: mountain that you can see it from The Bunny flats,
Speaker 3: area AND i was, like this is so. Strange no
Speaker 3: one else is freaking. Out what AM i?
Speaker 2: SEEING i try to take a. Picture it didn't come
Speaker 2: out my.
Speaker 3: Picture and the next DAY i backed, down HAVING i
Speaker 3: think lunch with a friend And i'm, like this happened to.
Speaker 3: Me i'm, like is there like something up there where
Speaker 3: they have? Lights and she was like, No she's, like
Speaker 3: but it does happen that people see.
Speaker 2: That AND i was like.
Speaker 3: What they were the brightest blue lights, ever like they look.
Speaker 3: Luminescent AND i was, like, oh, okay so that's not.
Speaker 3: Normal and there's times that you go up there and
Speaker 3: you may have that experience, Too.
Speaker 2: So that was PROBABLY i don't care remember if that.
Speaker 2: Happened that happened to.
Speaker 3: Me after The man of The, MOUNTAIN i think that
Speaker 3: was probably like a year. LATER i think the thing
Speaker 3: with the mountain is it caused a lot of people
Speaker 3: and you just never know what your experience is going
Speaker 3: to be, there LIKE i felt my calling to the,
Speaker 3: mountain But i've always been like two hours away from.
Speaker 3: HER i called Her, mama seep the, mountain, LIKE i
Speaker 3: have so much respect for that.
Speaker 2: Area it's so.
Speaker 3: HEAL i had only gone once WHEN i was a
Speaker 3: kid to visit a family member.
Speaker 2: That lived up.
Speaker 3: There but WHEN i started to go back in like twenty,
Speaker 3: twelve like on my, OWN i just felt that. Connection
Speaker 3: and a lot of people that come To Mount shasta
Speaker 3: talk about. That and there's a lot of people From
Speaker 3: japan that come visit because there's a connection To Mount
Speaker 3: fuji and for, Them Mount shasta is very sacred In.
Speaker 3: Japan they have so much respect For Mount. Shasta but
Speaker 3: there's so many. Stories BUT i tell, people if you
Speaker 3: feel the, call go because it's one thing to read these,
Speaker 3: stories it's another thing to experience it in your. Life
Speaker 3: even if you don't have an extreme experience or things
Speaker 3: Like i've, had being there is. Different the energy you
Speaker 3: feel it, like it's just. Different and SO i sell,
Speaker 3: people if you have a chance to, go just go
Speaker 3: and experience the mountains gorgeous for, one but you might
Speaker 3: have an experience you might not. Like but a lot of.
Speaker 2: People. DO i think a lot of people come back for. You.
Speaker 1: Yeah if you start looking from out chafts the, stories
Speaker 1: you're going to find some amazing. Accounts do you think
Speaker 1: is there any reason why in this one area you've
Speaker 1: got multiple big foot, Encounters you've got The, lamerians you've
Speaker 1: got man at the, mountain maybe little, people maybe fairies,
Speaker 1: also could there be any explanation about why is it
Speaker 1: all happening in this one.
Speaker 2: AREA i think that it has to do with the.
Speaker 3: CITY i think that whatever happened in the planet where
Speaker 3: a lot of these beans had to go, hide they just.
Speaker 3: Did but a lot of the beans that are very.
Speaker 3: HEALING i don't get a lot of the. STORIES i,
Speaker 3: know like there's a lot of other stories in other
Speaker 3: parts of the world that are really, scary but the
Speaker 3: beings there are not really like.
Speaker 2: That they don't go out and scare. People they, do
Speaker 2: and they.
Speaker 3: Don't like in the sense of like it's scary to
Speaker 3: have that experience because you're not used to. It you're
Speaker 3: not it's not something that is comfortable or that you know.
Speaker 3: Of it's not, Familiar BUT i feel like it's there's
Speaker 3: a safe space that's always the feeling That i've gotten from.
Speaker 3: It but obviously they can't really be around humans because
Speaker 3: that wouldn't be a normal. Thing but all the experiences
Speaker 3: That i've had and all the experiences THAT i know
Speaker 3: people have, had there has always been life changing for
Speaker 3: them and healing for, them and SO i feel like
Speaker 3: the interactions have their, place and that makes me emotional,
Speaker 3: too because it's such a beautiful. Area but there are
Speaker 3: people that go, missing AND i think that's probably for
Speaker 3: me the scarier, part which is WHY i stop going
Speaker 3: a lot of places by myself for that, reason and
Speaker 3: WHY i did not go and follow The Man mountain
Speaker 3: wherever you wanted to take, me BECAUSE i was, LIKE
Speaker 3: i don't know If i'm coming back. Out SO i
Speaker 3: did notice WHEN i moved up, there like a couple
Speaker 3: of times a, year there'd be, like this person's, missing
Speaker 3: this person's. Missing AND i want to, say most of those,
Speaker 3: people they have never found. Them they have never found a,
Speaker 3: Body they don't know where they went at, all and
Speaker 3: there's never an explanation.
Speaker 1: Why it seems like it's such a such a, paradox
Speaker 1: or you have such a beautiful, area all these incredible.
Speaker 1: Stories but then on the other. Side you do have
Speaker 1: definitely a sense of potential danger to it in a certain.
Speaker 1: Area do you have any advice for people that might
Speaker 1: want to go out and visit The Mount shasta area
Speaker 1: but still be in a safe.
Speaker 3: WAY i would say one like be mindful of the weather,
Speaker 3: always and be respectful of mother nature too. Always if
Speaker 3: you're going to go, alone you need to tell people
Speaker 3: like where you're going to be. At so if you
Speaker 3: have a tracker on your phone or something, like give
Speaker 3: someone your, Tracking LIKE i think that has to be
Speaker 3: like really important because there's people that.
Speaker 2: Have gone walking in town and they can go.
Speaker 3: Missing SO i would also say if you can go with,
Speaker 3: people like don't go. Alone and if you're going to go,
Speaker 3: alone LIKE i know the areas that can go like
Speaker 3: by myself because it's packed with, people which is normally
Speaker 3: like Old Ski bowl, Area Benny, flats things like that
Speaker 3: in the. Summer like if you're it's a destination spot
Speaker 3: of a lot of, tourists so you're not going to
Speaker 3: be alone in a lot of. Areas but if it
Speaker 3: is an area that's pretty, isolated you need to tell
Speaker 3: people where you're, at and you need to be prepared
Speaker 3: with your whatever it is that you're using to go
Speaker 3: out hiking and if you run into those experience like for,
Speaker 3: me like WHEN i had that experience with The man
Speaker 3: of The, mountain LIKE i just trusted my gut AND
Speaker 3: i was, like whatever this being wants to show. ME
Speaker 3: i don't know IF i don't know what's going to,
Speaker 3: happen AND i don't want to put myself in that.
Speaker 3: POSITION i think people sometimes get really, curious but they
Speaker 3: don't use their intuition and their better. Judgment and in that,
Speaker 3: MOMENT i was, LIKE i don't think this is for,
Speaker 3: me So i'm going to.
Speaker 2: GO i was, like AND i think that's.
Speaker 3: IMPORTANT i think wherever you, go you need to use
Speaker 3: your intuition to say maybe this is not a good.
Speaker 2: Idea most, importantly like be.
Speaker 1: CAREFUL i agree with. YOU i think one of the
Speaker 1: most important things we can do is if you do
Speaker 1: if you're a type of person where you feel like
Speaker 1: you have that, intuition listen to it and don't shut it.
Speaker 1: Down it's trying to connect with you for a. Reason,
Speaker 1: luna your story is just. Incredible it's. Beautiful thank you
Speaker 1: so much for sharing. It is there a way that
Speaker 1: people can get in touch with you if they have
Speaker 1: anything to share or maybe BUT i don't. Know some
Speaker 1: guests they are, like, hey this is good enough if
Speaker 1: you share anything about if you're writing, anything or if
Speaker 1: you have anything like, that feel free to share.
Speaker 3: It this. TIME i have my, Podcast the Healingen adventures Of.
Speaker 3: LUNA i go into some of my stories About Mount shasta.
Speaker 3: Too in that, ONE i actually had a friend talk
Speaker 3: about their story About Mount, shasta AND i think it's
Speaker 3: the one Under. Marita they had a pretty interesting story
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 2: One SO i have.
Speaker 3: That you can find that on Like apple And. Spotify
Speaker 3: The Healen adventures Of. Luna you can find me on
Speaker 3: TikTok And instagram Under Faery mona AND i talk about stuff.
Speaker 3: There and THEN i am in the middle of.
Speaker 2: Working On Oracle deck number.
Speaker 3: Two Oracle deck number one is on my website ferimoon Dot.
Speaker 3: Co AND i do have bigfoot in that, deck and
Speaker 3: that deck is a little bit about my experiences In
Speaker 3: Mount shasta and that.
Speaker 2: So people like oracle. DECKS i have it.
Speaker 3: There i'll poll we have a little bit more An
Speaker 3: Oracle deck number. TWO i tend to share my experiences
Speaker 3: more that.
Speaker 2: Way maybe one Day i'll write a. BOOK i don't know.
Speaker 3: Because it's hard to pick out WHAT i do want
Speaker 3: to share on that in one. Area but for, now
Speaker 3: that's pretty much What i've got going. On and, yeah
Speaker 3: that's HOW i found you too on.
Speaker 1: TikTok, absolutely Your TikTok at cal is really. Cool there's
Speaker 1: some fantastic stories you share on, it AND i was,
Speaker 1: LIKE i got to talk to this person. Somehow But,
Speaker 1: luna thank you so much for coming. On it's been
Speaker 1: a really enjoyable.
Speaker 3: Discussion, yeah thank you so. Much thank you for having
Speaker 3: me on and letting me share my.
Speaker 2: STORY i just.
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