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Speaker 1: Welcome. Just Squatching Holler.

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Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loop, Squatching Holler's

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gotta tail.

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Speaker 3: The show wisps.

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Speaker 4: Creep like a creature strained out.

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Speaker 3: Every shadows got a secret.

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Speaker 2: To crowd Monsters rise Where the stories are too?

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Speaker 4: Squatching hollering?

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Speaker 1: Where the legends are born?

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Speaker 4: Are they? Are they gone?

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Speaker 5: Who can say?

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Speaker 3: In the holler of truth just slips?

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Speaker 2: Wait your footprints fade where the creek runs through a

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lantern sways, Let the search begin, rustling leaves, but there's

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no one there, is it the wind or the beast?

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Speaker 6: You fear every echoes, question, every Russell's a clue.

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Speaker 1: Squatching Hollis got its eye on you.

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Speaker 7: Monsters.

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Speaker 1: The whole stories are torn swaps?

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Speaker 2: And how where the legends are born?

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Speaker 3: Are they?

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Speaker 6: Are they gone? Who can say?

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Speaker 8: And now your hosts welcome you to Squash and Holland

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Roger Williams and Amanda Stylist. Remember this podcast can be

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downloaded everywhere great podcasts are found. And now the show.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Welcome in everybody. I'm excited to know. I'm always excited.

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But I got two of my favorite guys with me. Amanda,

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she couldn't be here tonight, Obama Murdock's on fill in

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force and the way we're going to do this since

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for y' all that don't know, Peyton, our guest tonight

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is my son, and I thought it'd be fun to

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get him to come on and you know, kind of

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tell his side of these things and you know how

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he got into it and all that, and Bama's a

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great interviewer, and I was like, man, I hope he

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can do it, and he agreed. So this is this

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is this is great. So if y'all hear me not

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saying nothing which will be tough, it was planned, but

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welcome in everybody. We're gonna continue. Amanda sent me an

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old article from Tennessee, I believe, late eighteen hundreds, and

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I'm gonna I'm gonna play her little intro here and

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then I'll read that and we'll bring the two guys out.

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Here we go, and now Amanda's Bigfoot news brought to

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you guys, squatch and holler. I don't think she expected that.

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Last week I kind of broke her down, but here

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we go. So this is the Hagerstown Mail. It's Friday,

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May fifth, eighteen seventy one. This titled the Tennessee wild

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Man Jackson, Tennessee wig of the thirteenth instance says, quote,

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we learned that between Sobby and Cranesville, on what is

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called Piney McNairy County. A lot of y'all may know

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where that's at. A strange and frightful being has been

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observed for several weeks. He is said to be seven

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feet high and possessed and put and be possessed of

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great muscular power. His eyes are unusually large and fiery red.

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His hair hangs entangled and matted mass jet below just

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below the waist, and his beard reaches below his middle.

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His entire body is covered with hair, and his whole

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aspect is most frightful. He shuns the sight of men,

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but approaches with wild and horrid screams of delight every

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woman who is unaccompanied by a man. He sometimes with

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great caution, approaches houses, and should should he see a man,

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he runs away with astonishing, with astonishing swiftness. This I

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can't hardly see this, y'all, sorry, leaping the tallest fences

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with the ease of a deer, defying alike the pursuit

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of men and dogs. He is frightened several women by

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attempting to carry them off. Oh wow, I didn't get

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that far into it, as well as by his hard aspect.

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And the whole country around Sabby is in consternation. We're

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learning old words. The citizens. Citizens are now scouring the

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woods and are determined either to I can't read that

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because of the little thing. I'd say, probably give him

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manoogie or drive him off. So I've made that part

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of anyway. So sound familiar, guys, May fifth, eighteen seventy one.

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I think this is a great segment. And Amanda has

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tons of these, and we'll share at least one every

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every show. So there you go. That's Amanda's news from

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a long way back. So we're gonna bring on Peyton

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and Bama. Wait, we'll wait. Tobama there he is. Welcome guys,

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y'all doing.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, Hey, everybody in the chat. I'm watching the

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chat but I can't chat, but I see all our

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friends and their families.

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Speaker 4: It's rocking and rolling. We got, I mean, got all

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the regulars in here. Thank y'all for being here. Thank you,

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Bama for you know, coming on, and Peyton, thank you

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because I know you don't do this much. And you know,

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you're in the time. You know, when I was your age,

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we couldn't talk about this. But now I know you've

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you've been out in places and heard people talking about it,

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and you've approached them and got some pretty good stories.

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And they're not they don't watch these shows. You know,

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just happened what a couple of weeks ago. And so

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we're going to go research that area soon. But anyway,

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I'm gonna turn the show over to Bama. He's our

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guest hosting hosting I and I'm excited for this. So

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and what we'll do is he'll he'll he'll ask Peyton

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a bunch of questions, they'll interact, and then later we

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have some newer stuff. We'll we'll let Peyton talk about

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Speaker 3: Bamma, all right, I guess I guess that's good, right, Oh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, heck yeah. We Hey, we professionals around here.

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Speaker 3: You know, Peyton's been on a couple of shows. Uh,

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he's been on wood Walkers, He's been on The Beast

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Show before. But I realized that there's some people may

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not be familiar with him. So other than being Roger's son, Uh,

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tell us a little bit about yourself, Peyton, Like, first

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of all, what's your age? And like, uh, you know,

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what do you do for a living and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: We'll get into it that point. I'm twenty nine, just

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turned twenty nine about two months ago. I installed sprinklers

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some all over Middle Tennessee and some of Kentucky sometimes.

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regular like the hunt fish the outside, you know, all

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the camping things and all the all the outdoors and things.

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Speaker 3: Now you're is it your girlfriend or are you married girlfriend? Okay? Uh,

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Woodwalker's camp out. I don't even know if we can

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call it a meet and greet anymore, you know, because

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you know we've done it several times. But he was

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there and with his girlfriend, and of course Roger was

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there with his wife, and uh, it was really neat

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to get to sit and talk with you, Peyton for

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a while. Uh you know, once you're if I'm around Roger,

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I'll really start telling some stories and lots of things

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most people may not want to hear, even though they

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asked to hear. And so I hung around Peyton a

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wall and got really comfortable with him. So we sat

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to go through police stories and stuff like that. I

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Speaker 7: I looked up and it was like one o'clock in

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the morning, so it was for a while.

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Speaker 4: But what was cool, y'all, uh was we had you know,

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we don't have groups really, but we had enough time

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to get to know everybody. And it was like a

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rotating thing where you know, you know, we were over

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here talking and there was multiple groups, big ones, small ones,

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and everybody's doing the same thing. And that's that's amazing

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Speaker 3: For nobody, for somebody us never been to one. Uh

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you know, Roger's right. You you end up kind of

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walking over and talk looking to two or three people.

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about people and and uh, you know, learn strateg and

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you may not even be talking about bigfoot related stuff.

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things too. But that was really neat to sit and

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talk to you all that night, and Kell couldn't Yeah,

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kill couldn't make it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a question, Uh, how hard is it

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to make it to the bathroom just like forty yards away?

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Speaker 3: It's not that hard because you said we got thirty seconds,

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and I said okay, and I took off. But see

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then your intro song gave me a little bit of

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a buff.

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Speaker 4: Well I'm talking about I'm talking about that the at

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the meet and greet. You know, you know everybody and

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you and you can see the bathroom and you start

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over there. In an hour later, you're still talking to

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people working your way over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you get you get stopped a couple of times

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before you ever even get over there to the bathroom.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right. And you get there and there's a line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I and I'll y'all, I promised I'm going

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to back. I'm shut up. Uh and and let y'all roll.

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Speaker 3: So let me Okay. I wanted to start with this.

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Speaker 7: I mean I.

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Speaker 3: I probably asked questions that other people don't. Uh. But

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other than just getting into this paper, if it hadn't

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have been for your dad, do you think you would

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ever have had any exposure to this other than you know,

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our our usual pop culture type stuff.

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Speaker 7: Well, so before so Daddy told me the The only

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really thing I ever had to do with it before

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when he was younger. But I had had stuff happen,

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like when I was younger, be with friends and stuff

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out in the wood, Like me and my friends would

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just take off walking in the woods at night with

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a flashlight and if the moon was out of them,

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we had our guns and stuff on us, but like

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we weren't, you know, we were just out walking literally,

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Daddy got into it, and like he had told me

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his story, but he hadn't really, like he hadn't dove

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off the high dive into this yet.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 7: So we had a night where we were on top

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of the hill, or we're at the bottom of the

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hill going up it, and it's in corners were right,

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not five minutes from where Daddy lives, and there was

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top of the hill. I noticed how far apart they

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were and how glowing oranges red they looked, and It's

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almost like I could see it, like one eye disappeared

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and the other one followed it, and it turned around

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and walked off, and me and my buddy were like,

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what was that? But we didn't think you think bigfoot?

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crazy to think bigfoot? You know? Because I didn't really,

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got the best of me, and I probably would have

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started doing a bunch of research on my own of

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some kind until until I either like, you know, was

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out there all the time or yeah, yeah, I just

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the place, and then once I get locked on it,

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eat my own arm and stuff because I don't want

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Speaker 3: We're probably more like than you think, then it me.

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keep using this term until it's coined to my name,

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just like the field of thirteen Hol's name is. But

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I always say, man, if it's not in the rolodex

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of my brain, I get obsessed with trying to you know,

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figure out what it is. And I say this too

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all the time. One of the worst things you can

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do is just get on the internet and just google

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some random questions like what what does this? And what

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does that? You know, you start getting all kinds of stuff.

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it was like note, loving school nights and stuff.

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it wasn't like we were really up to no meanness

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or anything. We just wanted to get out of the

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house and walk. We had this weird thing though about us,

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to where if we saw a car light it's coming,

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you know, we'd all dive off into the woods or

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into the ditch, you know. And one night we was

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out a little bit too late. Of course, Daddy he

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got out hunting for me in his truck and uh

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and when he left, I made it home from another

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direction and he came home a little while. Now, this

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is on a Saturday night, sweat to be up for

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church next morning. That's way he's out looking for us.

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And he came in the house and he goes, what

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the world's wrong with Frankie? That was a friend of mine.

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And I said, what do you mean? He goes, man,

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I topped the heel over there at the church and

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I got a glimpse of him on a bicycle and

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he goes and he just took off down through the

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woods oncle and Frankie showed up the next day with

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briar scratch march when it went off down through a

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sawbriar patch and stuff. And you know that's I mean,

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that's not uncommon for you know, country kids just to

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get out and walk.

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Speaker 7: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you this and we'll see it.

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Roger kenener Jeck later on when your dad told you

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his story originally, you know, what did you think? I mean?

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Speaker 7: So so it wasn't like he just sat me down

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and was like, look, this is what happened when I

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was this age and all this it was actually we

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were I had heard it before, like in passing him,

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like maybe missing I saw something that was big and Brantlake,

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but I don't know what it was. That's as far

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as it ever went. It never like he didn't want

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to give too much detail to people because you know,

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the people think you're nuts. You tell him, I went

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back and measured where it was and that like its

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head was above a limb that was seven foot five

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off the ground or whatever. So and I don't remember

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the exact measurement that he gave, but that's roundabout. But no,

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it was like one time I was watching one of

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these big foot shows and there was the Ohio how

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I believe it was. It was on TV, and he

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was inside, he was in the kitchen cooking, and that

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hal let out and they played it three four times

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and he like he come bebopping around the little s

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hallway that we had in the house at the time,

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and he's looking. He's like I used to hear that

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all the time where we were where we lived out

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there on Globe Road and all that. Yeah, And I said, oh,

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I mean, did you ever see anything? And he's like, well,

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and then he told me the story, you know, but

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he's like, I don't know what it is. I've never

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seen At that time, he had never seen or heard

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anything else. But we took what a fifteen year break

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from untain probably probably yeah.

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Speaker 4: But my parents end up they got yeah, they got

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divorced and split the farm up, sold it and so

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then you know, I'm I'm raising uh Peyton and Keeley

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pretty much, and uh there was other things going on,

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you know, sports and school, and I.

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Speaker 7: Mean I had, like my grandparents, they always had land

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and stuff on my mom's side, but they weren't they

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didn't want anybody hunting it. And so I was out

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in the woods a lot. But as far as hunting, hell,

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I didn't start back up until I think around twenty

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eighteen or so is when I actually started going all

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the time during deer season and stuff.

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Speaker 3: And that was because of Bigfoot or something. That was

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just the way it was.

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Speaker 7: Lack of land and by yeah, lack of places to go.

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But I've got a friend who lives right up the

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road from Daddy, and him and his family were kind

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enough to let let us un out there, and uh,

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so that's where I started back. And now I've got

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a place that's in the family on the opposite side

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of the county that I go to, a lot that's

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pretty much his mine and another guy. But it's a lot, uh,

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it's a lot bigger than well, I always has a

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lot bigger. It's a lot more wooded than my buddy's

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place down where daddy lives.

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Speaker 3: So I always wondering if if if your dad wasn't

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who your dad is, do you think you'd have any

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interest in it at all? Or do you think it

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were just kind of kind of fizzled out after a while.

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Speaker 7: Probably, I mean I had an interest in like aliens

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and stuff before before the Bigfoot like things, So I

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was always like we were looking. I remember he was

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telling me alien stories and stuff that they seen then,

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and I have I've had a few of those two

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like I mean, just I remember when Mama bought her

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first bought her house that we live in now she

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lives in now. We was the first night we had stayed,

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and I remember seeing something falling out of the sky

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and it's falling fact and it just stops and it

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looks like it blows out and it sucks back in

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like blue white light and gone. So yeah, that stuff

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has always been an interest because it's you know, they

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seems like they do try to hide stuff, But yeah,

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I probably would have ended up day.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I remember as a child and I

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don't I don't remember what year. This was very early,

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but Dad would take us to Tuscaloosa to the movie

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theater and there was a movie about Bigfoot, and I

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remember seeing the uh, the PG footage Patterson Gimla footage

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and uh. And I've told this a lot. I specifically

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remember my dad telling me that, you know, all that's

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just a guy in a suit, you know, and back then,

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you know, it wasn't stabilized, it wasn't color enhanced. They

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hadn't you know, been able to do anything to it.

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So you know, you remember how shake you shakey it was?

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And uh and of course, uh, like I said, my

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dad was honest. He is a Christian, he is a

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good man. And when he said that, you know that

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thing don't exist with it, I just said, well, I

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guess it don't exist. Always wondered what he may would

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think about it if he were, you know, still alive today.

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I think I could probably convince him. But yeah, I

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was kind of good.

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Speaker 4: He sounds a lot like my dad. When I told

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him that day that night, well what I had seen,

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he laughed and Uh, it took something happening to happening

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to him, uh am my mom for him to come

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ask me about it later. So you know, that's just

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And even if some of those people had seen him,

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you know in the South, you didn't, you didn't talk

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about that stuff. You know, you didn't want you you know.

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Speaker 3: So there's lots of answer says that I found out

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about and maybe six or seven years ago where I

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had childhood friends that had sightings and uh uh you

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know several of the one that's a career law enforcement

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officer after I had left and graduated high school, he

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had an encounter with something on a dirt road one night,

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and uh, but yeah, I just always wonder how people,

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uh you know, I don't see how much somebody has

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something happened to them that they can't kind of stay

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with it or want to figure out, you know, what's

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going on, unless it was just so terrifying that they

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just want to just kind of, you know, leave it

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behind somewhere.

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Speaker 4: And I think, I think, uh, there's different types of

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people handle it different ways, Like you're saying, uh, the

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curious ones like us three sitting here, you can't let

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it go. And then there's one that is scared so bad.

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There's people that's scare so bad to even like see

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a show like this, And I understand that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I need to bring it up early. With

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the dog thing that's we were talking about back there,

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I didn't go looking into that for nothing. Yeah, google

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the first thing. I didn't google the first thing about it.

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I don't go back there at certain times a day

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or night. No, I didn't want because there's certain things

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that I feel like you you let in, you can't

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let out, or you can't you know, it ain't going away,

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and I just I don't want no parts of it.

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Speaker 3: And we're going to get into that story in a second,

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for example, because you said, you know, you really.

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Speaker 7: This really is.

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Speaker 3: You hear lots of oddities and I always use the

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term high strangeness as it has to do with Bigfoot. Uh,

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and this is really one of the more stranger It's

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because when I started and the people that I started with,

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which are still the same people that we have now,

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we've just kind of branched out, you know, into some

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groups and stuff. You know, we were strictly in to

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the fact that it was a flesh and blood and

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some people may be, and I'm not saying this right

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or wrong, but from from our standpoint, we were under

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the assumption that this is a flesh and blood creature,

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incredibly elusive, intelligent, you know, checking off all those boxes.

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But the more we did it, the more things we

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found associated with you know, lights and different anomalies and

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feelings or infrasound or just you know whatever. But after

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you had that experience in nineteen where you saw the eyes,

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what was the next thing after? Did you go and

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tell your dad? You told him right after that.

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Speaker 7: I don't. I'll told you that for a while for

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a while, and we started talking about this because like,

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if I don't know what it is, like, I'm not

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gonna run and tell him. I didn't want to run

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and tell him, Hey, I think I saw a bigfoot

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or saw this of whatever. But because I didn't see

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an actual I just noticed real big guys and they

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were to be as far apart in how off the

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ground they were. That that's all I saw. And I mean,

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I know you can. I don't really chalk it up

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as as anything. It was just an experience. I don't

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it's not to me. I know some people will be

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like no, that was a bigfoot experience you had. But

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if I didn't see it, you know, I'm not gonna

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tell everyone I saw bigfoot. I was up in the woods,

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you know, I just.

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Speaker 3: I bet you were going through the young nineteen year

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old rollodex in your brain. I'm like, and you're thinking

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it's an owl's eyes or it's a.

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Speaker 7: Start of googling. I got in the truck, I said,

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what eyes of animals in the Middle Tennessee glow bright, orange,

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red or whatever?

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Speaker 3: And my worst thing, yeah, yeah, and yo, people listening

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may think it's funny, but if you went back and

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listened to any show I was on, especially early on,

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I specifically said, I did the worst thing after my

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first experiences. When I got home, I googled, and it

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was this generalized what throws rocks into water that land

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between the lakes? I mean, that's really almost what I

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taught because I just couldn't. And then I was in

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stuff like do armadillos jump in the water and swim?

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And already ruled out flying carp you know, predatory fish,

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you know, running fish up into this little flu. I

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knew it wasn't a person.

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Speaker 7: It just.

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Speaker 3: If you all there's been people that have visited the

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spot with me, very few people because it ended up

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getting closed off, you know, they closed l Bill closed

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it off. But if you went down in there with me,

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you would understand that there was I knew for certain

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that I wasn't dealing with a person because they're just

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you couldn't have got back in there in the dark,

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you know, so I figured that you were probably flipping

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through all those things in your brain, you know, while

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that was going on. If you'd have been by yourself,

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what do you think you would have done.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know, dude, I mean, turn around the

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walk the other way. Probably we were dumble up and

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went up there because there was seven of us, I

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guess strengthened numbers is not. Yeah, it's a real thing,

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I guess, But we are.

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Speaker 4: In your mind anyway, in your mind.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we had like shotguns and stuff with us,

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so we thought we were cool. But yeah, it probably

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should have just turned around and walked out. But like

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I said, and only two of us saw it. We're

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telling the other people what we saw, and they're they're

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dumb and wanted to go see, like if it was

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up there, and we're telling them that we saw these

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big eyeballs turn around, it looked like, and walk the

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other way. And they're like, well, let's go up there

473
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,119
and see. As we're walking up there, we're describing what

474
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,279
we saw. If you were telling me that now, I'm like, no,

475
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,319
you got it, buddy, go ahead, shoot three times if

476
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:27,880
you need something.

477
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,279
Speaker 3: Those are the people. Those are the people whose dad

478
00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:36,319
hasn't quite possibly seen Bigfoot and already told you about it. Yeah,

479
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,279
to just go walking off into the woods.

480
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: And you know what he was saying. I was stunned

481
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:46,240
when I heard that on the TV. I didn't watch

482
00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:49,480
those shows, Bama. I didn't know they existed. And I

483
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:52,640
come around, like what in the world. And he explained it,

484
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,440
and I'm like, that's supposed to be a bigfoot and

485
00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:00,319
and and immediately my mind goes back to when I

486
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,880
was a kid and hearing close to that sound. But

487
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,000
I knew immediately. I told him. I told him that

488
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,039
what I heard not like that, because I felt it.

489
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,680
It was just so powerful. But I didn't put that

490
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,160
together with the thing I saw because I didn't know,

491
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:19,880
you know, I was uneducated.

492
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: You know, that always makes me think about there's certain

493
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:30,079
people that I. In fact, I have a guy that

494
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,119
went to my church. He's a big game hunter, believe

495
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,279
it or not, from this little county. He goes to Alaska,

496
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:41,319
British Columbia, places like it, and he hunts things like

497
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,400
big horned sheep, elk, you know, things.

498
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 7: That you know.

499
00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: He told me, he goes, I have to get in shape,

500
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160
you know, start getting in shape six months ahead of

501
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,960
time sometimes because the mountain hiking, in the altitudes and

502
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,799
stuff like that. So we were sitting there talking the

503
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,680
other day when I were getting some tires put on

504
00:29:58,759 --> 00:30:03,920
my truck, and he literally has a black bear full

505
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:06,319
mount as soon as you walk in the door of

506
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920
his office, and then you know, and there's all kinds

507
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,519
of pictures and big fish mounting and there at the end,

508
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:15,000
I asked him, I said, man, have you ever seen

509
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,799
anything that you maybe couldn't explain or something you did

510
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,640
recognize or anything like that? And he said, about the

511
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,759
only thing I've ever saw is he said, I think

512
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:29,519
I saw a big cat of some type, but I

513
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,119
just got a glimpse of it, and I just thought, okay,

514
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,039
And right after that he goes, oh, he goes, And

515
00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:37,000
I didn't even mention this he goes, Oh, but I

516
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,160
believe in Bigfoot, And I said do you? And this

517
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:43,960
guy is an elder of the church, and I said

518
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,319
do you He goes, Oh, yeah, he goes, he goes.

519
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,359
A person has to be ignorant not to think that

520
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,200
there's other things out there that God's created or something

521
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,920
that just you know, we just we don't know everything,

522
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:00,759
you know. But I thought that was interesting. But after that,

523
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,799
when was the next time you ever had anything happen,

524
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:08,680
whether it be vocals or or big.

525
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:18,839
Speaker 7: What's that Bigfoot related or anything weird? Okay, So I'm

526
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,559
trying to think, because I mean, there was stuff that

527
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,039
happened on my buddy's farm two or three times. And

528
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,759
it's not far from where we saw the eyes. Like

529
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,039
I remember one night we were frog gigging and this

530
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,559
it's a little bitty pond like you could throw a

531
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,079
rock like love a rock across the other end and

532
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:44,160
hit the bank. And we walked up there and we

533
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:49,240
had our flashlights and it's it's got an osage orange

534
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,240
streets called bodox all the way around it. So we're

535
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,200
basically crawling and dodging thorns trying to get to these

536
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:01,720
frogs in this little pond and I've got my flashlight,

537
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:03,400
but you know how it is when you're crawling in

538
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,359
your light is bouncing everywhere and you really can't. You

539
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,000
can see in front of you for about a second

540
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,759
and that's it. Well I heard, we all heard what

541
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,799
sounded like somebody jumped out of the water with like

542
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:21,759
snowshoes or paddle feet on and went running up the bank.

543
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:25,640
And nobody saw anything. And my buddy was like, almost

544
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,680
have been a cow. I'm like, the cows are six

545
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:32,200
hundred yards that way, Well, would there be one cow

546
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:32,720
right here?

547
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:33,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

548
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 7: And a cow does it that? You know, like they

549
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,279
sloshed when they run. It's like it's not like a

550
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:45,039
like the the feet coming down and the water separating.

551
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:47,319
It was not I don't Again, I didn't see it,

552
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:50,319
but I heard it. Yeah, nothing o it. I was like,

553
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,319
well that was weird. There was some big feet rough,

554
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,720
you know, like whatever that was that was hitting the

555
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:58,480
ground was or hitting the water was huge. And I

556
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:00,920
mean the problem the water probably wasn't, you know, two

557
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,480
or three foot deep right there, because it wasn't, like

558
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:05,880
I said, it wasn't a big pond anyway, but there

559
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,039
was that and that I mean like I said, I

560
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:14,240
guess fast forward until we until we bought this plate

561
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,559
or bought but started hunting on this place we hunt

562
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:21,160
at now. And it's like, well, was that the first

563
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,759
time we ever went out there? It was like two

564
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:23,880
weeks before Duke Eason.

565
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you just got permission and because that.

566
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 7: Set up blind up, I was sitting under trees and yeah,

567
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,079
we behind rocks and stuff like we I mean food

568
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:36,440
and water.

569
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: Was Yeah, we just scouted a little bit, you know,

570
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:41,720
quick scout, look at the holes on the fences. Scene.

571
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:45,640
We're crossings where you know, where the trees, where the food,

572
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,359
the water and all that. It was just kind of

573
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,559
a quick thing and go ahead and you tell what

574
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,400
happened that day.

575
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,079
Speaker 7: But so we're walking and this, uh, this ridge for

576
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,920
this hill, it goes up one end and then make

577
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,720
take a horseshoe and comes back down. Over here in

578
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:09,000
the middle is a big V. I guess you'd call it.

579
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 4: I don't.

580
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 7: I don't even know. It's just a straight up yeah

581
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:18,679
it was. Yeah, And well we're sitting there and we

582
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:23,400
noticed a tree oddly broken pretty far up. We're both

583
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,719
looking like that's weird. There's not. That's a pretty fresh break.

584
00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:33,360
It's green. There's not any other like limbs that had

585
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,280
fallen and make that break. It was just a very

586
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,639
in a weird spot, like it was pretty clear where

587
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,360
that one little tree was. And as we're looking at that,

588
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:46,760
his phone, Daddy's phone is in his shirt pocket right here.

589
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,480
He doesn't have like a vest or anything on like that.

590
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:55,639
It was pretty warm that day, and his phone series says,

591
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,440
I'm sorry, I do not understand. And then we've look

592
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,920
at each other. I'm like, what was that. He's like,

593
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,159
my phone's in my pocket, like there's no and as

594
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,440
he's looking at his phone, it sounded like you took

595
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:11,920
a rock about the size of a softball, and I'm

596
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:17,960
just getsing and you underhand lobbed it up and threw

597
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:21,800
it over and it hit clacked off the other rocks

598
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,400
and was rolling down to us. And all this is

599
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,199
going on, and he's like freaking out about if that

600
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,599
happened and his phone goes off or his phone goes off,

601
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:35,880
then that happens. And we're still trying to figure the

602
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,679
tree thing out, and so we were like, let's just

603
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,800
back out here, and because that was weird, we were

604
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480
both like, what would be able to throw something. There's

605
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,559
nobody in here with us because there's so many briars

606
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,639
and bodoc and just all kinds of weeds and stuff

607
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,880
growing up all over the place that you can't walk

608
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,599
anywhere without it getting snagged and scratch in your clothes.

609
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 3: So you would hear.

610
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 7: Somebody walking like a deer could barely sneak through this

611
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:09,800
place like a human definitely ain't. So it wasn't somebody

612
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,840
there messing with us and we're going through this while

613
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,000
we're walking back or whatever. And then I mean there's

614
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:22,159
been That was probably the first thing that really got

615
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:24,719
uh what Spencer say.

616
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,599
Speaker 4: He said, we hold out the good stuff for my

617
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:29,599
show and don't go one.

618
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 7: Basically, I said, everything that we're talking about, everything that

619
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:38,639
we've something.

620
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yo, go inside joke. You'll have to watch Night

621
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:51,039
Hours or Woodwalkers for that one. But but I go

622
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,519
back to Bama. You know when you have things happen

623
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,360
and a memory will come back, you know, waiting minute,

624
00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,880
wait a minute, tell them about about being was it

625
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,599
the Elk River or Buffalo River and what happened.

626
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,639
Speaker 7: Where the Richland meets the elk Okay?

627
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: And I think that's very important. I think that's important

628
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,920
because a lot of Native Americans used to, you know,

629
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:23,400
use places like that. I had a guide tell me

630
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:28,639
one time when another creek runs into another one. I

631
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,639
don't know exactly, I can't remember why he told me,

632
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,960
but you know that's that's like that behind Greggs. That

633
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:37,840
one creek comes into other right there and you can

634
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,239
cross over, you know whatever. But anyway, I'm sorry, go ahead, Peyton.

635
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 7: No, it's just it was right there. It's between were

636
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,079
put in in Elkton and get off in Prospect, Alabama,

637
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,000
And that was about halfway where the Richland Creek runs

638
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,559
into the elk and we set up camp there. There

639
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,000
was like a swimming hole and then the creek was

640
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,920
pretty good height too or depth, and we'd fish there.

641
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:10,000
But I remember one night it was so hot that

642
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,360
I blew up a pool float. We would float in

643
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,519
pool floats like the lounge ones. And I was sleeping

644
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:23,320
on that and I thought I was dreaming, but I

645
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,280
was not dreaming. I woke up to like a screaming

646
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,920
and I wake up and I was a full moon.

647
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,519
And I remember looking up on the bank. At being

648
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,679
seven or eight years old, this bank looked like Mount

649
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,199
Everest up there. I don't know actually how high it

650
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,519
is now, but I saw something standing up there looking

651
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:45,199
down and it turned around and walked off, and I

652
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,400
was being little kid. I was like, just go back

653
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,239
to sleep. It wasn't real. It can't hurt you if

654
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,039
you know, if you and whatever. So that I remember

655
00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:58,280
that happening, and I remember for a long time every

656
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,880
time we'd go on that river or for like, even

657
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,000
if I spent all day on the water on any

658
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:08,719
kind of boat, I would have like strange nightmares after

659
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,480
the fact of not even some of them were drowning related.

660
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:15,880
Some of them were getting lost on the river related,

661
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,760
but like some of them were just random, and yeah,

662
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,039
that happened for a long time.

663
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: H that's pretty strange too for people that don't know

664
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,840
that the Elk Rivers. If you were to take I

665
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:33,960
sixty five south, you know through Tennessee, like you're heading

666
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,920
to Birmingham, it's right there, close to the Alabama State Launch.

667
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,360
And I used to bow hunt some private. I was

668
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,719
never when I retired, I wasn't that much into guns

669
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,920
for a long time, understandably, so I got into bow

670
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,119
hunting and I would bow hunt with a buddy down

671
00:39:55,159 --> 00:40:00,440
there and we would have the time late set timber

672
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,159
bow season when it's still hot and ticks and mosquitoes

673
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:06,880
and stuff. So we would hunt the mornings in the

674
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,920
evenings and during the day we would float the Elk

675
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,400
River and we would fish the Elk River. While it's

676
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,159
a pretty substantial sized river. I mean, we have lots

677
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:20,639
of creeks and things named rivers around here, but the

678
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,280
Elk River is pretty good sized river, big cliffs on

679
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,000
each side.

680
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:25,199
Speaker 7: You know, it's just beautiful.

681
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting.

682
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 4: I want to get if you look, if you look

683
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:32,880
at some of the you know, you want to look

684
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,800
at reports BFR whatever they call it the Elk River

685
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:43,119
cluster on the BFR. Oh, yes they do. That's but

686
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,239
I thought I would let y'all, you know, give y'all

687
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,880
something to look at.

688
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's funny because this was the same guy that

689
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:55,000
I used to camp and hunt at LBL with for

690
00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:00,760
many years, where we worked together for twenty years, and

691
00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:05,000
Bigfoot's kind of the reason we had have fallen out

692
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,159
before it was old with uh. But uh, you know,

693
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,679
he's one of those guys. I'm not going off on

694
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,519
a tangent here, but you know, he's one of those

695
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:18,239
guys that quote unquote has been in the woods all

696
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,559
his life and he has he's a good bow hunter

697
00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:25,760
even on up and you know when we quit camp together,

698
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,960
he's on up into his sixties by then maybe and uh,

699
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,840
you know, still really successful bow hunter, and we would

700
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:38,519
I tried to get into those discussions with him a

701
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:40,880
little bit after the first couple of things that happened

702
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:46,280
up there, and he gave me all the same things

703
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,679
everybody does. Well, if they exist, they should be hundreds

704
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,360
of thousands of trail camp pictures of them. There should

705
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,480
be this, or there should be that. It's kind of

706
00:41:56,519 --> 00:42:02,480
hard to explain to somebody that's not into it. It's

707
00:42:02,519 --> 00:42:04,760
almost like each new person you have to go through

708
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,480
and dispel all the questions that have been raised by

709
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,599
all the newbies. And I don't mean that as a

710
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,039
as a bad as a bad word, but all the

711
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,880
new people, because they really are the ones that ask

712
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:24,519
all those generalized questions, you know, the ones that we

713
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,360
kind of want to roll our eyes at. You know, well,

714
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,360
then why didn't you get it on video? You know,

715
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,440
I hear that all you saw one why didn't your

716
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:36,320
video just you know, those just questions, So I wondered,

717
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:42,000
you know, have you ever had discussions with friends or

718
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,480
anything about.

719
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 7: This or well, yeah, I mean my best friend's one

720
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,199
of my best friend's dad almost hit one in a jeep.

721
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,880
No kids. He was scared that it was going to

722
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,000
reach in and grab him. He can said he can

723
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:56,719
see the teeth of up the nostrils and it went

724
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,199
like that as he come around the curve. So I

725
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,800
got my other buddy, the one that I told you

726
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,960
at the pond. He told me the other day that

727
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,880
he saw one. I don't remember the whole story. He

728
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,559
told daddy.

729
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 4: It was fourteen years ago. But the thing was they

730
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,039
had never talked about this, and they were at a

731
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:22,280
gathering and somebody said jokingly, two people were walking across

732
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,400
the field it was getting dark, to say, hey, look bigfoot.

733
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,360
And this guy looks up and says they ain't big enough.

734
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,920
That ain't bigfoot. So they like, hey, you know, I

735
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,920
need to talk Paul.

736
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,679
Speaker 7: Daddy and just gave the phone gave to my friend. Yeah,

737
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,719
it was like tell him, he'll tell me later. And

738
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,880
he said he walked up on it as what it was,

739
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,719
and it stood up and it was way bigger, and

740
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,920
it screamed and all this stuff. But so, I mean,

741
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,719
I've had and I've had friends that have been out

742
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,800
in the woods coon hunting, and get I never talked

743
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,960
about bigfoot a day in my life to this guy.

744
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:58,199
And he told me. He was like, we were coon hunting,

745
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,440
coon run down off in a ravine bowl type thing,

746
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:07,880
and he said we started hearing screaming and tree knocks,

747
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,360
like something banging on trees over on this ridge and

748
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,280
over on this ridge and chattering and screaming him. But

749
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,559
he said we stayed all there all night with our dogs,

750
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,639
like until daylight, like we didn't leave. And I was like,

751
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,519
what do you think it was? He was it was

752
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,719
probably just cows stepping on the limbs or something. I'm like,

753
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,000
what you said, though, what was it? And you know,

754
00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:32,599
there's just so yeah, I've had it very rarely. Actually

755
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:37,320
have I ever had someone that argued with the idea

756
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,079
of it, Because now, I mean, you know, I've been

757
00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:45,719
this past year, I've flown more than I ever have

758
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,239
in my life, And the way my mind works is

759
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,960
while we're coming in over like Alabama and Middle Tennessee

760
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,400
and stuff, I'm looking down, I'm like, that's a lot

761
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,719
of woods compared to houses. That is a lot of

762
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,559
land compared to how far these houses actually are apart.

763
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,159
And there's not a game show camera on every single

764
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:06,800
one of those ridges every hundred yards, you know, there's

765
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:13,519
not is not And yeah, so yeah, it's very it'd

766
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:15,679
be very easy to get across a human I think

767
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,719
could just about get across if you mapped it out,

768
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,320
you could get across one side of the state and

769
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,000
never be never be spotted by someone.

770
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: Well, Greg to we were talking yesterday and we were

771
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,320
the same subject. You know, it always comes up, and

772
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,760
he said, look, you know a lot of these things

773
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,880
is three to five seconds, you know, very rarely more

774
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,039
than that. And he said, I if if you had

775
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:43,199
your phone where you carry it, and I told you

776
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,559
get a picture of me sneezing, And I'm gonna tell

777
00:45:45,559 --> 00:45:48,559
you before I sneeze, you ain't gonna get that picture.

778
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,679
Speaker 3: That's a great analogy.

779
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: You're seriously, well, what.

780
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,639
Speaker 7: Did they throw you to? Throw you in a lin's

781
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,159
enclosure at the zoo and said take a picture of it.

782
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can get all the pretty pretty pictures you

783
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,119
won't outside the lines. Then you throw you in there

784
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:08,800
with them, and how many pictures you're gonna.

785
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:11,159
Speaker 3: Get that's grict. That's a good analogy too.

786
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 7: You don't forget phone.

787
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,199
Speaker 3: No, I'm both. I've always been. I mean, after I

788
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,760
got into this and started trying to filter through all

789
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,679
the there's just so much stuff you don't have to

790
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:34,280
go through. And uh uh my favorite encounters so and

791
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:41,079
I I love bigfoot researchers. I feel that they do.

792
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,599
They take up the whole bunch of slack, but I leave,

793
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,039
you know, by doing their research and stuff. But I

794
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,840
love those people that are absolute didn't have bigfoot on

795
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,119
the brain, never thought about it. Now I love those encounters,

796
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:02,079
whether it be a road side crossing or you know,

797
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:04,440
a society or something like that. But you know, every

798
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,920
once in a while, just like Greg House, Uh he's

799
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,519
a fine example.

800
00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 7: Uh.

801
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:16,079
Speaker 3: Or Mike Wooley, the late Mike Wooley. Uh I can

802
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,719
you know carry arnold people like that? You know, those

803
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,760
are guys that were lifelong hunters.

804
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 7: Uh.

805
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 3: And even if they didn't hunt them just in the

806
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:29,920
in the woods all the time, it's kids or whatever.

807
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:35,159
And you know, then they have an encounter one day,

808
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:39,119
just you know, out of the blue, you know, and uh,

809
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,639
I have to and that brings me to this question

810
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,400
because I'm I'm a religious person. I was raised religious,

811
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,760
I went to a religious college.

812
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,599
Speaker 7: You know, did you have to.

813
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: Cross any you know, religious hurdles or things in your

814
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,239
mind when you started thinking, yeah, this is really something.

815
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:10,280
I mean because with me, I have to figure out

816
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,480
where it fits in with God and his the way

817
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:14,760
he creates things.

818
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, the way I kind of look at it is God.

819
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:22,239
You know, God made the whole universe. And the way

820
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,440
I feel is if you think that we're the only

821
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:29,960
little spec only little rock in this whole thing and

822
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:34,079
there's nothing else anywhere else, what of the odd there's

823
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:36,679
like it's almost slend to none that there's nothing else

824
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:40,880
out there. And like you know, I've always been big

825
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,800
into like wildlife biology and stuff like that, and like, uh,

826
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,719
like watching the NAT Geo channel and all this we

827
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,199
don't even know like like what ten percent of the

828
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,960
ocean or something like, and they're finding like new squids

829
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,639
and stuff.

830
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 5: All the time.

831
00:48:58,039 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 7: So like if they they don't know that that's and

832
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,800
you like you can't explore the woods all the time.

833
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,000
So I was like I never really saw it as

834
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:11,079
like there's no way that it couldn't be that like

835
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,719
I would almost like like you feel like you're kind

836
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,199
of being sacriligious, unbelieving in it kind of or like

837
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,559
something like that. I never really had that feeling because,

838
00:49:22,639 --> 00:49:28,280
like I mean them like, well, I.

839
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: Had somebody make the comment to me. They said, well,

840
00:49:31,079 --> 00:49:34,760
if if God didn't create it, then it don't exist.

841
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,559
And I said, okay, so if God didn't create it,

842
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:43,519
what if something else created. Now I'm not saying that,

843
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:47,760
but just before my mind was going and uh, and

844
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,199
you know, and over the past few years, and of

845
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,480
course I'm into this a little bit, not a whole lot,

846
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,440
but you know, the stuff with the uap s and

847
00:49:56,519 --> 00:50:01,000
the UFOs and then declassifying stuff and all that stuff. Uh.

848
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,800
You know, you can ask some of the smartest people

849
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,199
in the world and they'll say, we should we should

850
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:12,599
be embarrassed to think that we're the only things here,

851
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,000
you know, there or whatever. And the way that I

852
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,400
handled that is I say, well, maybe God created other

853
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,039
stuff out there. I mean, I mean, I'm not so

854
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,360
brillan to think I'm the only that we're the only

855
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,440
ones here, you.

856
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 4: Know, Bama, that's a great question. Because I did struggle

857
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:35,800
with it. And finally, the way I dealt with it

858
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:40,039
was it hit me. Light bulb went off, Well, if

859
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:44,800
it exists, then God made it, you know, and maybe

860
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,239
we're misnaming the thing these things whatever. We had a

861
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,039
great comment. You know, people feel like the aliens might

862
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,840
be actual demons and you go back and read, uh

863
00:50:55,079 --> 00:50:57,679
some of the easy open Bible and stuff like that.

864
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,199
And you know, even just as past week, I saw

865
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:05,800
what if you know, the t rex. The t rex

866
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,480
never has made sense to me because everything that I've

867
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:11,880
ever seen that had arms could feed itself with those arms.

868
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,760
And then I saw where they took birds that they

869
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,800
know were birds and they looked like many t rexes.

870
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:25,159
And then this guy superimposed a dragon over the t

871
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,159
rex and like that was and I was like, oh

872
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,480
my god, I never I never thought of that. But

873
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:35,079
but that's why I always say, Bama, all this stuff

874
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:39,400
we're talking about always leads back to the same place. Yeah,

875
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:44,480
pretty much. So anyway, I.

876
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: Want to get into this. This the strangest story that

877
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:53,920
Peyton hands and I think that I first heard you

878
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:58,079
tell this on the Beast Show a long time ago

879
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:02,519
with More in the Land porch uh. But I want

880
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:06,039
you to go into them and I forget where that happened.

881
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,159
You don't, of course, you know, you don't have to

882
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,199
be super specific, but run through that for me one time.

883
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:19,559
Speaker 7: All right. So it's uh, summer nights me. It's me

884
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:24,039
and my friend. He's driving. I'm in the passenger seat.

885
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:26,920
My other friend and his girlfriend were sitting in the back.

886
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,639
They didn't see it. They were too busy talking to

887
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:31,880
each other and me and him were talking to each

888
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,679
other and listening to the radio stuff, and then they

889
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,679
were talking back there, so they didn't see it, but

890
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:44,079
my buddy did. Anyway, we are, there's a lake around us,

891
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,000
and on the damn side, it's this weird s curve

892
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:50,559
and it goes up and it cuts back real sharp

893
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:52,880
and it gets flat for a little bit, and then

894
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,000
you go on that side of the dam where the

895
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:57,719
water would be on the other side of the over

896
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:03,239
there probably one hundred yards one hundred and twenty yards

897
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,800
in front of us. We saw it like we see

898
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,800
the makeup of a dog. And it's sitting directly in

899
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,760
the yellow line in the center of it, and its

900
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,320
head is facing that way, so it's looking like this

901
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,440
head that way. And as he's pumping the brake and

902
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,360
we're coming up closer to it, the lights start shining

903
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,400
on it more and I'm starting to notice things. I'm like,

904
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,360
that dog ain't got hair, but it doesn't look mangy

905
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,480
like something mangy looks scabby and gross. And it almost

906
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:38,320
looked greasy, like there's a dog. There's a dog. I

907
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,519
can't remember the name of it, but it's an Egyptian dog.

908
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:46,719
And I know, real thin hair, but they almost look bald,

909
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,239
and they're they're real slick looking. But that's what this

910
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,599
looked like. And it had like pointed ears, like a

911
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:58,480
German shepherd, and they're they're facing the same way the

912
00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:03,400
head is. And as we're getting closer, this thing turns

913
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,199
and looks at us, and the only thing that moved

914
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:10,239
was its head, and it's looking, well, we're probably at now.

915
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,239
We're getting about sixty fifty forty yards, getting closer, and

916
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,079
I'm looking like, there's no eye shine. Why is there?

917
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,079
Why am I not seeing the reflection of the eyes. Yeah, well,

918
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:23,920
we're getting closer. It's not moving. And then we get

919
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,360
so close where like it's feet in front of the

920
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,800
bumper before it ever moved, and I noticed the eye sockets, well,

921
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,360
there was no eyeballs in there. The eye sockets were

922
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,199
out or the eyeballs were out of the eye sockets,

923
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,519
and there was just black behind the eye sockets. And

924
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:49,159
right before we got to a stop, it stood up

925
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,960
its back leg or its back stood up, and it

926
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:56,199
took two or three little trotten steps and jumped into

927
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:02,079
the grass where which was about anywhere from waistside a

928
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:08,320
chest eye. And it turns to like this smoke comes

929
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:14,360
up and it's not like it's a little lighter than

930
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,199
like a smoke bomb, like gray and like a real

931
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,159
grayish black smoke. And I'm like, by this time, we've

932
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,199
already passed it. And I'm like looking at that through

933
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,800
the passenger side of the mirror or window, and I

934
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,559
look at my buddy. We both like look at each

935
00:55:32,599 --> 00:55:34,599
other at the same time, and he's like, did you

936
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:38,000
see that? I said, I saw something. What'd you see?

937
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:40,639
He said that UF and dog just turned to smoke,

938
00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:43,920
like yeah, pretty much got out of it. Let's get

939
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,320
out of here.

940
00:55:44,559 --> 00:55:45,159
Speaker 8: And he had that.

941
00:55:47,079 --> 00:55:50,599
Speaker 7: DURINGO pegged out and we were leaning around all them

942
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:55,440
curves and stuff. But I didn't go back. I might

943
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:56,239
have googled, like.

944
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,559
Speaker 3: Which kind of dog turns in the smoke?

945
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,679
Speaker 7: Well, No, I googled, like what kind of like black dog,

946
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:12,599
black dog turns into smoke like Indian what do you

947
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:20,000
call it? Uh stories or whatever? Focalore. Yeah, So I

948
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,400
got google that and there was I read that there

949
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:26,760
was a dog. It was a hell hound, is basically

950
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,280
what it was. And it says if you see one,

951
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,079
then a family member is gonna die soon or you

952
00:56:32,199 --> 00:56:34,920
were gonna die soon. So like, yeah, wouldn't have enough digging,

953
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,360
We'll put that away. Yeah, I didn't want to know.

954
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,039
Speaker 4: And but your but your granddad and uncle passed that. Yeh.

955
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 7: Three family members die within all within three months of

956
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:48,760
each other.

957
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 3: Wow.

958
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 7: And then it was started in May, May, Fair, March, May, June, July, August, September,

959
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,559
and then October, so it was within from May to October.

960
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:07,400
It was my great great granddad, my granddad on my

961
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,599
mom's side, and then my uncle. And he was thirty

962
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,119
thirty five, I think thirty six.

963
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he didn't Bama, he didn't tell me about

964
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:18,960
that that a.

965
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 7: Way, me and them didn't tell nobody. Like me and

966
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,679
my friend we're freaking out and they're in the back

967
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,039
seat like whatd y'all see? What was it? We're like, nope, nohing,

968
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,360
not a thing.

969
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 4: But see that that means a lot because if you'd

970
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:36,800
have just seen it by yourself, you might have thought

971
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,519
you were crazy. But Peyton does the same thing I do.

972
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:41,960
I'm sure Bama does this. You know, if three people

973
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:45,119
see something and he sees something, I'm asking them first,

974
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:47,679
just see if it matches up with what I saw. Yeah,

975
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,679
you know what I mean. I'm not I'm not speaking first.

976
00:57:50,719 --> 00:57:52,840
I want you to tell me what you saw, see

977
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,639
if it matches up.

978
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, I've done that before too. Yeah, there's several

979
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,760
times I've had things happen to me and uh, now

980
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,519
I could tell y'all and y'all would believe me because

981
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:08,719
you know, I'm an honest, truthful person. I mean, I

982
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,559
don't embellish it. I don't have a reason to. Uh

983
00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:15,039
but a lot of times when I tell something, I

984
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,519
will say the only reason I'm telling this is because

985
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:20,159
I had several people with me that can corroborate what

986
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,519
I was talking about, Like, you know, a lot anomalies

987
00:58:23,639 --> 00:58:28,440
or things we've heard, you know, or even paranormal stuff,

988
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:29,559
ghost stuff.

989
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 7: You know.

990
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,239
Speaker 3: I've had only a couple of encounters of that. I

991
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,039
was going to ask if you've ever had any what

992
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:40,280
should consider parent I would consider the dog, the ghost.

993
00:58:40,119 --> 00:58:48,199
Speaker 7: Dog, paranormal. I don't really I have. I mean, yeah,

994
00:58:48,599 --> 00:58:53,840
actually I have a few things. So my mom buys

995
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:59,039
this house on it's like five acres of land or whatever,

996
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:01,960
and we're me and her are sitting in the living

997
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:05,440
room and at the time, her furniture was set up

998
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:10,400
so like the TV was on the same wall as

999
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:13,719
the kitchen, and then there's like a six foot like

1000
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,960
walkway thing into the kitchen from the living room you

1001
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:22,880
can see the countertops and cabinets and all that. Well,

1002
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,559
me and her are sitting there watching TV. And you

1003
00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:28,000
know those old phone case the flip phone case clips

1004
00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:30,599
to just clip onto your pocket or your belt or whatever.

1005
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,320
It was one of those, and it just like it

1006
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:39,079
looked like you something took and smacked it off the

1007
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:43,039
counter and it went across the It went across the

1008
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:46,920
kitchen and hit the stove, which was probably eight feet

1009
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,079
from it, and me and Mama both was like we

1010
00:59:51,239 --> 00:59:54,199
both saw it because it was like we saw it

1011
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,519
move and then we saw where it left from and

1012
00:59:56,599 --> 00:59:58,960
where it ended up, and we were both like, what

1013
00:59:59,199 --> 00:59:59,360
was that?

1014
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 8: There was?

1015
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 7: This was back when my niece was born in October

1016
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,639
of what was that twenty twenty two?

1017
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 4: Sounds close, yeah, something like that specific.

1018
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:24,639
Speaker 7: But so, my niece is born, my sister is still

1019
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:28,800
in the hospital, but my sister's car is at mama's.

1020
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,599
They drove her car back because she wasn't gonna be

1021
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:33,280
able to drive anyway, and they were just gonna come

1022
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,480
back and get her. I thought she was home. I

1023
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:40,679
walked into my mom's house. My mom and my stepdad

1024
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:46,199
are sitting there watching TV, and they're watching Sanford and

1025
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,239
Son and it's an episode where somebody's in court. I

1026
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,280
don't remember like everything, but I remember because the only

1027
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:57,559
reason I remember is because I heard what sounded like

1028
01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:01,360
a baby crying. And I come around the corner. I

1029
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,679
was like, is is Kelly in the baby home? And

1030
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,400
they're like no. I'm like, you sure, there's not. They're

1031
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,719
not in the room right there, because I just heard

1032
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:17,199
a baby crime. And I rewinded the TV, you know,

1033
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,119
twenty and thirty seconds back and listened, like, went in

1034
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,039
the kitchen and listened to if there was something that

1035
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,880
sounded like a baby crime, and there wasn't. There was

1036
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,000
not that was crazy, And then it happened again two

1037
01:01:33,039 --> 01:01:36,239
weeks later, but it was outside and the baby was

1038
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:41,599
in my sister's arms, and everywhere I heard that, and I'm.

1039
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, people like, well, people say, you know, we know,

1040
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,800
we know bobcats, and we know it.

1041
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 7: Was the cat downstairs. I'm like, oh, what what you know?

1042
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 4: You know the difference? Uh he called? Uh he was

1043
01:01:56,039 --> 01:01:57,039
quick enough to catch.

1044
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 7: Uh.

1045
01:01:57,639 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 4: I told them when they moved to that place that

1046
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,559
I've seen three red wolves in the late nineties. Uh

1047
01:02:02,679 --> 01:02:06,199
They're rare, and but I saw three of them. And uh,

1048
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,840
when a when a female wolf turns and looks you

1049
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,239
in the eye, you know it's a wolf. I mean,

1050
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,079
there's no mistaken So anyway, Uh he caught he caught

1051
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:24,320
a wolf. Uh okay, I'm okay. But uh so when

1052
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,920
you know people so and I understand it. Are you

1053
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:29,840
sure it wasn't this, You're sure it wasn't that. But

1054
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,360
if you've been out as much as we all have,

1055
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:38,920
you know nia a bobcat makes a few sounds that'll

1056
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,800
scare the crap out of you. I mean I've I've

1057
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,079
been scared by those before. And then my Dad's like, oh,

1058
01:02:43,159 --> 01:02:43,840
that's a bobcat.

1059
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:47,119
Speaker 7: So that's saying that it's the cat downstairs. This one

1060
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,280
herd didn't come from downstairs. What I heard come from

1061
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,280
in front of you, like in the living room over here, right,

1062
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:59,920
I mean. And then I had I had a lot

1063
01:03:00,239 --> 01:03:03,559
weird feelings at my old grandparents' house. I used to

1064
01:03:03,639 --> 01:03:06,440
every time I sleep in this one room. They saw

1065
01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:08,679
stuff all the time. And of course I didn't hear

1066
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:11,719
about this until I was grown, but they've seen orbs

1067
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,480
come out of the larger room and go through the

1068
01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:16,639
walls and go out the go out the walls into

1069
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:18,760
it and watch them disappear into the field and then

1070
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,280
in the woods. There was stuff like that happening. And

1071
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:29,000
this house was old, old. I used to sleep in

1072
01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:31,760
the original one of the original rooms in the house.

1073
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:34,920
I think it was actually the old living room, and

1074
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,000
then they added on to it later and made the

1075
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:43,119
rest of the house. But uh, yeah, it was, Uh

1076
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,039
that was very weird. You know.

1077
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:51,599
Speaker 3: If I've been able to sleep in that house, I

1078
01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:52,320
don't much.

1079
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:53,199
Speaker 4: I don't.

1080
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,719
Speaker 7: I didn't know. And Mama was always wondering why didn't

1081
01:03:55,719 --> 01:03:57,840
want to go over there? What do you say, as

1082
01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:01,000
you know, you're eight, nine, ten years old? I just

1083
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:03,320
get weird feelings over there. They're not gonna they don't

1084
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,119
want to hear that. But I mean, I've had a

1085
01:04:07,159 --> 01:04:11,480
lot of friends that had they have told me. We've

1086
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:14,039
all shared stories, you know, sitting around fire and stuff

1087
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:19,239
talking and I had There was two people we were

1088
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,119
at a little It wasn't a party, it was just

1089
01:04:21,199 --> 01:04:23,599
a few people over and we had a fire, and

1090
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,679
I told my the dog story to some trusted people

1091
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,320
that were around me and that hadn't heard it yet.

1092
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,800
And well, one of my other friends was like, that's

1093
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:43,960
crazy because during prom night, me and my date were

1094
01:04:44,039 --> 01:04:48,000
driving back to our house or her house and then

1095
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:51,440
she lived on a back road or whatever, and he said, dude,

1096
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,199
we saw this deer that were sitting in the middle

1097
01:04:54,199 --> 01:04:57,079
of the road and it turned and looked at us

1098
01:04:57,119 --> 01:04:59,599
over its shoulders and it jumped straight up and never

1099
01:04:59,679 --> 01:05:03,079
come to wow. And I was like, whoa. And then

1100
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:06,719
that's crazy. Now someone at the fire, someone at the

1101
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,840
fire was like, when was this, you said prom He said, yeah,

1102
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,920
he was like, we saw the same thing at like

1103
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:16,000
one o'clock in the morning around the same area. He said,

1104
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:18,119
Now the deer and it turned around and looked and

1105
01:05:18,239 --> 01:05:20,760
jumped up. He said this one, though. The only difference

1106
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,519
is is the the second one was like walking across

1107
01:05:23,559 --> 01:05:25,639
the road and it looked at the car and jumped

1108
01:05:25,639 --> 01:05:26,880
straight up and never come down.

1109
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:31,199
Speaker 4: Now, let me we saw it in Let me interject here.

1110
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:35,360
I saw something similar one night, but because I knew

1111
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,440
what it was, I was focused on. It was there

1112
01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:40,639
was a mountain lion sitting in the on the edge

1113
01:05:40,679 --> 01:05:42,719
of the road, and there just happened to be a

1114
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,400
big tree there, and we came around the curve. This

1115
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:49,079
mountain lion jumped up and grabbed a limb and went

1116
01:05:49,159 --> 01:05:52,360
on up in the leaves and we went on. Now,

1117
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,719
if I hadn't been paying attention, because they're the same

1118
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,280
color as deer around here. Ye uh, so you know

1119
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,320
that that could be. But you know, having several people

1120
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,320
and let me uh this comment right here, Joshua says,

1121
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,960
you know he used to be able to make animal

1122
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:09,039
noises really well. This one thing I tell you about Peyton.

1123
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:13,559
Peyton knows animal sounds and he can make animal sounds

1124
01:06:14,159 --> 01:06:14,920
with his mouth.

1125
01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

1126
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: He's really good at it, and he recognizes things. We

1127
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,920
were out one night, uh at place would tell you

1128
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,320
about here in a little bit, and I heard a whistle,

1129
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,599
and I'm thinking, is that what I think it is?

1130
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:33,599
I was thinking bigfoot? Right, He looked at me. I

1131
01:06:33,639 --> 01:06:36,360
said that that that a bigfoot and we heard the

1132
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,840
whistle again and he said, no, that's actually worse. That's

1133
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:45,800
a mama of female line, Mama line mountain lion, yeah,

1134
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,960
calling for it's young. And he said we need to

1135
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,840
get in a truck because it was closed. So I said,

1136
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,800
cats don't whistle. So what I do byama, I get home, YouTube,

1137
01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:00,639
I google, and I'll be down if they don't. Yeah. Yeah,

1138
01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:04,039
so if you.

1139
01:07:06,559 --> 01:07:11,039
Speaker 3: Talking about the whistling. I'm always reading. I read about

1140
01:07:11,199 --> 01:07:15,280
science and animals and just constantly reading about stuff all

1141
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,599
the time. But I was watching something the other night

1142
01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:21,679
and uh, I think I had a show it's been

1143
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:27,199
several years ago now on something like it bigfoot, really

1144
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,159
that tough or something like that. And really what I

1145
01:07:31,239 --> 01:07:34,239
was doing was comparing it to known animals and some

1146
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,800
of the abilities that they have. Like most people don't

1147
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,360
know that a lion can run fifty miles an hour.

1148
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:43,440
I mean, you think about a cheetah, you know, hitting

1149
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:48,159
sixty five in about two three seconds, But a lion

1150
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:53,800
can run fifty miles an hour. You know, a dang

1151
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,280
buffalo can run thirty five for a couple of miles,

1152
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,480
can run like forty five or something. Yeah, But what

1153
01:08:01,639 --> 01:08:08,239
I found interesting was I got into animals that consciously

1154
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:15,920
hunt methodically as a group, animals that specifically hunt together

1155
01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:19,239
as a team, not as an individual. And that's like

1156
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:24,000
Harris hawks out in the desert, painted dogs, wild dogs

1157
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:28,600
in Africa, one of the most amazing orchards killer whales,

1158
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,840
the way they you know, I think we even had

1159
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,119
a video on that show where it showed them coordinate

1160
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:39,680
and get side by side and they rushed an iceberg

1161
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,760
and caused a wave just to flip the seals off

1162
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,399
the other end. All to say, the the show I

1163
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,800
watched the other night, there was a certain type of dogs. Now,

1164
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,000
of course I was a dog hanner for years. I'm

1165
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,119
always into dogs. It was a certain type of wild dogs,

1166
01:08:57,239 --> 01:09:01,039
not the wild dogs are painted dogs in Africa is

1167
01:09:01,079 --> 01:09:06,279
a different type. And it showed them hunting and how

1168
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:10,399
they would spread out methodically and they knew exactly what

1169
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,520
they were doing, and then they whistled each other. And

1170
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,560
then it showed these dogs whistling because you know, on

1171
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,439
these these new planet Earth dogcmentaries. You know some of

1172
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:28,640
the footage that, but it showed these dogs whistling. And

1173
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,640
when it showed them whistle, it was like their mouths

1174
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,279
didn't open or anything. You could see the muscles in

1175
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:38,640
their neck do something, and it was just a single note,

1176
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,079
just like that. That's all it was. And then on

1177
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:50,000
the film you could hear them from a distance other ones,

1178
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,439
and then you could hear the one that was on

1179
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,399
camera and see it whistling to the other ones.

1180
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1181
01:09:57,159 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 4: No, I was just waving a couple of people here living.

1182
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:03,680
Dr Hey, I met him a few months ago. He's

1183
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:04,199
a cool guy.

1184
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: So there's so there's just so many noises and sounds

1185
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,680
out there, most of which are inside the rod of dicks.

1186
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,399
But uh, but you know, the course of things you

1187
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,119
heard and the things I heard, I just couldn't figure

1188
01:10:22,119 --> 01:10:22,880
out what it was.

1189
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 7: So one time I was I was deer hunting and

1190
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,359
my blind the way or my stand. The way I've

1191
01:10:32,359 --> 01:10:34,279
got to set up is I've got a lot of

1192
01:10:34,399 --> 01:10:38,279
backdrop behind me to break up my llowed and stuff,

1193
01:10:38,279 --> 01:10:42,960
and then I've got my little camouflage tarf or whatever.

1194
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,279
It's like, it's more like cloth. But anyway, so sometimes

1195
01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:48,000
deer get up on me and I don't even see

1196
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:49,920
him or hear him. But one time I heard like this.

1197
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,279
This scared me. I thought it was somebody in the

1198
01:10:52,319 --> 01:10:56,359
woods that wasn't supposed to be the coughing. And I

1199
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,479
look over and there's a deer choking on an acre

1200
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:02,319
right here. And I'm I'm thinking, you know, what were

1201
01:11:02,399 --> 01:11:04,800
the odds you know if you're in that like, because

1202
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,239
you associate that sound with a human choking, and that's

1203
01:11:09,279 --> 01:11:11,039
what I thought it was. I didn't even know deer

1204
01:11:11,119 --> 01:11:13,239
could do that. I mean, you know, I've never never

1205
01:11:13,319 --> 01:11:14,920
heard that before, but now I know, you know, if

1206
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,640
you're choking, the wizard might be a deer choking on

1207
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:18,800
a hedge out or something.

1208
01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: And and all this is all this is great points

1209
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,279
because and we're just kind of you know, people that

1210
01:11:25,399 --> 01:11:28,640
don't that don't know you, they all automatically assumed that, well,

1211
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:33,039
you must have had to have misidentified that. We're we're

1212
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:36,720
going to go through that rolodex, like Bama says a lot,

1213
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,439
until we narrow it down.

1214
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 3: Would quick when it's happened.

1215
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 7: I mean that one time you've you heard something that

1216
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,199
sounded like a grunt and We spent hours on YouTube

1217
01:11:50,279 --> 01:11:53,680
looking up all the animals in Middle Tennessee, Southern United

1218
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,760
States area that make this grunt. And we went through

1219
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,079
like probably five hundred different animals and lose Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,

1220
01:12:01,119 --> 01:12:03,199
that's not it. That's not it. Like we never found

1221
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:07,119
like I didn't hear he did. But like you're constantly

1222
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:10,560
you know, you hear something and you're thinking, you almost

1223
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,359
it gets the way you can almost be like boom,

1224
01:12:12,399 --> 01:12:15,479
that's a whatever. But when you hear something you don't know,

1225
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,239
because you do know so many, it's like, oh what

1226
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:20,880
is that? You know what I mean, Like that's crazy.

1227
01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that one mistake that people make. Maybe

1228
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,960
it's not a mistake, but one thing that people do

1229
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:34,479
is they try to explain things away or they try

1230
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:40,680
to rationalize things instead of realizing how tiny we are

1231
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:47,159
in this universe, you know. And I mean, like I said,

1232
01:12:47,159 --> 01:12:49,399
I read a lot on nature and science and stuff

1233
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:54,119
like that. You know, they may go into the Amazon

1234
01:12:54,279 --> 01:12:58,840
this year and find twenty different speed new species, but

1235
01:12:59,039 --> 01:13:04,800
things you know, frogs, bugs, you know, birds, things like that.

1236
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,000
But see that's all still in this world where we

1237
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:13,840
know everything and we think that we have identified everything

1238
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,319
and it's just, you know, not the case. It's not

1239
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,800
the case. I just tell people to try to keep

1240
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:25,079
an open mind, always be open to the possibilities, because

1241
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,399
once again, I'll come back to religion for a second.

1242
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,640
H If I were to sit and try to explain

1243
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,920
the story of Jesus to somebody and told them, it's

1244
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,760
just it's completely supernatural, I mean, isn't it. It's it

1245
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,479
is and I believe it because we believe because of faith,

1246
01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:54,720
you know. But it's a completely supernatural story. And when

1247
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,960
and even sometimes and I struggle with this, and I

1248
01:13:58,039 --> 01:14:00,560
pray about this too. When I think think about it,

1249
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:07,840
sometimes I forget that it's history and it's not just

1250
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:08,439
a story.

1251
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:09,399
Speaker 7: You know.

1252
01:14:10,079 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 3: When I think about Jesus, sometimes I might make the

1253
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,479
mistake of thinking, well, he's dead and gone to have it. No,

1254
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,880
he's not. He's alive and gone to have it. And

1255
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,840
if you wrap that up, bring that all back into

1256
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,800
trying to bring it back into the perspective, it's one

1257
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:32,119
of the most far fetched stories that ever is. But

1258
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:34,640
your faith is what is it?

1259
01:14:35,399 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 7: Not?

1260
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,239
Speaker 3: Your knowledge and things you know, things you hear, things

1261
01:14:38,319 --> 01:14:41,479
you've seen. This is simply your faith that makes you

1262
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,840
believe that this thing is true. So I think that

1263
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:53,239
people should, you know, have an open mind, don't count everything,

1264
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,279
don't chalk everything up to you ever had this when

1265
01:14:56,319 --> 01:14:58,840
you were a kid, You saw something or heard something

1266
01:14:59,159 --> 01:15:02,039
and they said, oh, it was your mind playing tricks

1267
01:15:02,119 --> 01:15:06,680
on you. And I don't think my mind's ever played

1268
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,760
tricks on me that I can remember my whole line.

1269
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:15,880
Or maybe it was just your imagination. You don't imagine

1270
01:15:16,039 --> 01:15:19,039
a solid being or you know what I mean? Are

1271
01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:20,000
you all following me on that?

1272
01:15:20,319 --> 01:15:20,520
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1273
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:21,319
Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah.

1274
01:15:21,319 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 7: I use this example of a lot. I'm like, imagine

1275
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:28,199
being the first guy. Like you're down in the like

1276
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:31,560
tropics or wherever these things hang out, and you're hunting

1277
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,319
for food and you come across this lizard and you

1278
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,760
look at it and its eye turns towards you and

1279
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:42,439
it changes color to match what it standed on. Or

1280
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,159
you're the first guy. You're going fishing, and how do

1281
01:15:45,239 --> 01:15:48,800
you run and tell the tribe that, like, dude so,

1282
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,359
or you're like the first guy that that, or they

1283
01:15:54,039 --> 01:15:56,439
run fish up into these shallow waters and then they

1284
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,039
grab him pretty much and you mess up and grabbing

1285
01:15:59,039 --> 01:16:04,039
an electric eel and somehow this this fish like stings you,

1286
01:16:04,199 --> 01:16:07,680
burns you or whatever kills it and kill Yeah, you

1287
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,600
have a heart attack or whatever right there. So like,

1288
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,560
if that's real, how can you count on a lot

1289
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,479
of other things, you know, like right.

1290
01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 4: And right right now y'all where we're at right now,

1291
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,680
and the people that know and the people that want

1292
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,319
to believe, and the people that are searching. Everything right

1293
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:31,840
now is on the table. Yeah, there's nothing you can

1294
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:34,239
like wipe off the table because every time you go

1295
01:16:34,359 --> 01:16:37,640
do this stuff. You know, if I'd have told Bama

1296
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,640
Hate you know, you're going to go out with a

1297
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,039
bunch of people and see a weird orb. If I

1298
01:16:43,079 --> 01:16:45,279
had told him at ten years ago, he probably would

1299
01:16:45,319 --> 01:16:47,119
have laughed his tail off at me.

1300
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, it's.

1301
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 3: It's it's nice to be with with. It's much easier

1302
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,000
when you're with a group of like minded people, you

1303
01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:08,960
know what I mean, Because you'll hear lots of strange stories. Uh,

1304
01:17:10,079 --> 01:17:13,439
but you know, the people we're around, they ain't They

1305
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:18,760
ain't getting famous by telling us stories, crazy stories. They're

1306
01:17:19,119 --> 01:17:21,840
not becoming rich by telling us crazy stories.

1307
01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:22,520
Speaker 8: Uh.

1308
01:17:23,399 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: You know, I try to take people at their word. Now.

1309
01:17:27,079 --> 01:17:31,079
I do like to dissect a good story and ask

1310
01:17:31,279 --> 01:17:34,720
questions and things along that line. But uh, you know,

1311
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,760
like I said, just we I think open mindedness at

1312
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,319
this cause you just said it, Roger. We're in a

1313
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:46,920
time where people are more accepting of this, and you

1314
01:17:47,039 --> 01:17:49,880
can maybe even tell this to people that don't believe

1315
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,880
in it, because they may not believe in it, but

1316
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,199
they still have to hear it. Sosquatch is just a

1317
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,359
it's a part of our culture. I mean, it's a

1318
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,920
part of our world and our society, you know. Now

1319
01:18:03,159 --> 01:18:04,359
you know it's in prop.

1320
01:18:04,239 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 4: Culture and very variax has always has good questions. I'm

1321
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,359
gonna read both of them. He said, is their behavior

1322
01:18:10,399 --> 01:18:12,439
of sasquat that makes you think they might be much

1323
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:17,359
more intelligent most people realize. I think we've heard stories

1324
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,760
from people we trust and things we've seen. But you know,

1325
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,479
when they when they look surprised when they get caught,

1326
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,399
I feel like that's that's up there. Because my dog

1327
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,960
will look cheapish sometimes if you choose up my hairbrush

1328
01:18:33,039 --> 01:18:35,800
or something. But but you know what I mean. But

1329
01:18:37,079 --> 01:18:39,760
but this emotion that you hear people talk about in

1330
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,720
the face leaving gifts because you left it something if

1331
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,760
if that's happening, that that raises it a little more

1332
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,960
working together, either whether tree knocks, whistles, or whatever, to

1333
01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:57,880
let others know that you're coming, that you're in the area.

1334
01:18:58,119 --> 01:19:00,760
I've heard rock clacks, I've heard mouth pop. Me and

1335
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,359
Peyton had a terrifying experience with uh. I'll let him

1336
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:09,439
tell that later. But even the rock throw you know, yeah,

1337
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:14,319
it's primate to do that, but I don't I don't

1338
01:19:14,359 --> 01:19:19,319
know if a chimp has the the mindset that, oh,

1339
01:19:19,359 --> 01:19:20,920
I'm gonna throw this rock, but I'm not going to

1340
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,199
hit him in in a temple.

1341
01:19:22,359 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 3: I was going to say, he has the ability, but

1342
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,319
he doesn't have the accuracy. Let's put it that way.

1343
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,279
I mean, really, you know a champ, you know, you

1344
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,520
watch Gorilla's Champs pitch and fit throw and stuff, you know,

1345
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:41,319
but I've heard people talk about it's just having lots

1346
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:47,600
of rocks thrown at him and seemingly missing them intentionally, yes,

1347
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:48,680
not wanting.

1348
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 7: To hit him with a rock, you know.

1349
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:54,119
Speaker 4: Yep. And we all have a mutual friend that that

1350
01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:56,520
was going on and one bounced a certain way and

1351
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,960
hit the guy and all the rock thrown stopped. Yeah,

1352
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,520
you remember, And so here's another one real quick. Many

1353
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,840
experienced researchers talk about the entering the woods with respect

1354
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,000
and positive intent. Have you noticed any difference in your

1355
01:20:10,079 --> 01:20:13,680
encounters when you constantly approached the forest that way Peyton,

1356
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,880
the one on the south end the way, you know,

1357
01:20:22,079 --> 01:20:25,640
things have progressed, have been less from the rock throwing

1358
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,920
until now it's kind of let us know that it's coming.

1359
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,760
We think I've actually talked. We spooked it one night

1360
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,920
evening and you know, I put my hands up and

1361
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,880
spoke directly to it. It was in the dark and like, look, hey,

1362
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,239
we're leaving, you can have the place, you know, And

1363
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,479
to the fact that I think it knew we were

1364
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,479
supposed to be coming. And it met Peyton on a

1365
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:56,039
ridge one morning, and if you want to tell that story.

1366
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 7: So, I mean, like most hunters, you get out, you know,

1367
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:05,960
before the daylight, before it's even almost daylight. So it's

1368
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,920
probably like four point thirty in the morning, and I'm

1369
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,720
walking up this ridge and it goes it's like it

1370
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,880
goes up and it plateau's off, and then it goes

1371
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:23,000
back up and around the middle of where it plateaued.

1372
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:28,600
But the so the plateau even like comes over and

1373
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:33,039
then starts going downhill to the right. Well, I've got

1374
01:21:33,319 --> 01:21:37,319
I've got a pretty bright headlamp on that I keep.

1375
01:21:38,359 --> 01:21:40,479
I got my flashlight right here, and I keep this

1376
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,079
light up for when my head's down. I can see.

1377
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,600
I don't have to move my flashlight constantly. I can

1378
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:52,760
just keep looking over and I'm just I look up

1379
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,680
and I see again it's like the bright reddish orangish

1380
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:03,039
yellowish mixed colored eyes. And I'm like, first, I'm like, dang,

1381
01:22:03,079 --> 01:22:04,720
these cows are up here. It's going to get in

1382
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,840
the way of me hunting or whatever. I can't shoot,

1383
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,479
you know, it cuts down my shoot wings. And then

1384
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,600
I was looking at it, I'm like, I was a

1385
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,600
pretty far apart and off the ground to be a cow.

1386
01:22:18,319 --> 01:22:20,920
And uh, I'm not.

1387
01:22:21,039 --> 01:22:26,319
Speaker 3: Thinking to laugh. Somebody posted on the chat a second ago,

1388
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,359
we need to come up with a T shirt that

1389
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:34,000
says always blame it on the cow. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1390
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:35,079
I'm sorry.

1391
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 7: It's so as I'm looking at it, I'm like, oh,

1392
01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:48,880
I've stumbled up on one of these things. And you know,

1393
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,560
I'm thinking, do do I turn and run? Is that

1394
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:56,399
like I don't know how to sound whatever, like show

1395
01:22:56,479 --> 01:23:00,439
weakness or become preyyy whatever. So I just I literally

1396
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,479
I said to something to this effect. I was like,

1397
01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:05,680
I'm not hearing you, big slb. I'm not worried about you,

1398
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,479
Like I'm not here for you. You know, keep doing

1399
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,399
what you're doing, and I'm just gonna go up through here.

1400
01:23:11,319 --> 01:23:15,560
And these eyeballs are like turned. I saw it turn

1401
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:20,199
and like like I heard a hoof, and then I

1402
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:24,399
could hear it walking down and I eventually didn't hear

1403
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,239
it anymore and it walked off. Yeah, didn't see anything

1404
01:23:28,319 --> 01:23:32,520
that night that Morning's not the first thing, but uh, yeah,

1405
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:40,279
that's I've never I've never acted violently towards anything that well,

1406
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,319
you know, first thing of deer like hunting safety, like

1407
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:49,000
all of the rules whatever is know what you're shooting at. Yeah,

1408
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,720
so I just don't. I've never been the type too

1409
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,560
think I see something, just start blasting shots or whatever.

1410
01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:00,000
So never coming with like a violent mindset towards end

1411
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,319
anything like that or And I mean it's been mostly

1412
01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:08,000
peaceful other than like the time that we walked in

1413
01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:11,399
and it was like going like this, something was going

1414
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,079
absolutely crazy over I mean, how many we got a

1415
01:24:15,159 --> 01:24:17,960
bunch of tree cracks and daddy got some audio of

1416
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,399
vocalizations and stuff, and we're hearing it, and I mean,

1417
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,960
it sounds like it's breaking half dead half alive logs.

1418
01:24:26,039 --> 01:24:28,159
It's big, and then it sounds like it's breaking like

1419
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:32,960
a live sticks that big. It's crack like, sounds like

1420
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,359
a twenty two going off, flipping boulders. All this. You

1421
01:24:36,399 --> 01:24:38,680
can hear it pacing back and forth, picking up stuff

1422
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:42,840
and throwing it and who like mumbling to itself. And

1423
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,840
when he was like, you know, put your gun down

1424
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:46,880
and clear your mind.

1425
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,119
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I didn't tell you. I was

1426
01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:54,039
in a panic situation because we we were well armed,

1427
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,720
and I felt undergunned. I'm like, I've done walked in here,

1428
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,560
and my son's went me, what do we do? And

1429
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,119
so I was going to try something, and I said, Peyton,

1430
01:25:05,199 --> 01:25:07,319
He's like to stay puffed marshmallow man, like, don't think

1431
01:25:07,359 --> 01:25:10,960
of nothing, you know, like on ghost like clear your mind.

1432
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,319
That's kind of how it was. And I was going

1433
01:25:13,399 --> 01:25:18,159
to try to put positive speak positive right because this

1434
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:21,079
is the point where we had something behind us, something.

1435
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 7: Over and around and looked and it was like it

1436
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:32,880
was a pretty warm morning day and I turned around

1437
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,039
and look and I saw what looked like a heat

1438
01:25:36,079 --> 01:25:41,039
wave go in between a tree or what like between

1439
01:25:41,159 --> 01:25:44,000
me and a tree, and the dark contrasts to the

1440
01:25:44,079 --> 01:25:48,399
bark for that split second, and I told him, I'm like, hey,

1441
01:25:49,279 --> 01:25:52,079
I saw something behind us and all this. So then

1442
01:25:52,159 --> 01:25:55,760
that's when we were like, you know, he said, clear

1443
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,960
your mind, you know, don't you know, think like I'm

1444
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,800
not here to hurt nothing or shoot anything or whatever.

1445
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,960
And it calmed down a minute or two after that.

1446
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he so I didn't tell him to put his

1447
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:12,119
gun down. And I know people are like, we reason

1448
01:26:12,239 --> 01:26:15,960
we carry stuff guns and stuff with us, it's because

1449
01:26:16,079 --> 01:26:19,000
there's there's wild hogs, there's you know, mountain lions. We

1450
01:26:19,039 --> 01:26:21,239
don't want to hurt anything, but we don't be heart either.

1451
01:26:21,359 --> 01:26:24,439
So that's and that's the thing. If people say, well,

1452
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,159
you know, they know your intentions, you shouldn't carry guns, well,

1453
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:30,199
if they know why we carrying a gun, we should

1454
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:32,880
be fine. Right If that you know, that should be cool.

1455
01:26:33,319 --> 01:26:37,479
Well I told him to, uh, clear his mind. I

1456
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:38,960
don't know why I told him that. You can hear

1457
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:45,520
it on the video and Mark Newbill pulled out some

1458
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,840
of the sounds and there was a smaller one screaming

1459
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,319
in the distance. We heard it twice, but we didn't

1460
01:26:50,359 --> 01:26:52,439
hear it the other two times, and Larry made fun

1461
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:53,920
of me. He said, you didn't even hear those two.

1462
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,239
So but anyway, when I told him that, he for

1463
01:26:59,399 --> 01:27:01,520
some reason he said his rifle down and I thought

1464
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,800
that was odd, and I said, hey, we're just curious.

1465
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,479
We're here, you know, bringing you some things. We're not

1466
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,800
gonna hurt, not gonna hurt you. We don't want to

1467
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:15,720
and we don't want to be hurt either. And I

1468
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:20,720
felt this change in the air. I said, Peyton, what

1469
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,840
are you feeling right now? He said, when you said that,

1470
01:27:24,079 --> 01:27:26,079
the whole feel of the woods has changed, and we

1471
01:27:26,199 --> 01:27:31,119
got one more loud green tree break, kind of like

1472
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:33,079
an acknowledgement. I didn't know that's what it was. I

1473
01:27:33,159 --> 01:27:36,920
didn't what was going to continue. That was and that

1474
01:27:37,039 --> 01:27:42,520
was it. Everything calmed down and ever since that happened,

1475
01:27:44,239 --> 01:27:48,560
everything's calmed down there. When something does happen, uh, you know,

1476
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,760
talking to Koombo, we feel like there's a mom, dad

1477
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,319
and a little one. And I think it's mail because

1478
01:27:55,399 --> 01:27:58,119
Peyton can tell you what we heard, which there's been

1479
01:27:58,199 --> 01:28:00,840
so much, but tell him about us going with your

1480
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:04,319
ex girlfriend and sitting around the fire, and what happened.

1481
01:28:04,039 --> 01:28:12,319
Speaker 7: To Sosh called her bluff face, like she didn't believe

1482
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,079
in any of this. And we had told some things

1483
01:28:15,119 --> 01:28:17,840
that we'd heard out there, and we were like, well,

1484
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,079
let's go, or she said let's go. So we went

1485
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:25,600
out there. Heard some things that there's like chains. There's

1486
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,359
not a chain out there. There's not fences, gates, nothing

1487
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,760
like that. I think her and Daddy both heard like

1488
01:28:32,039 --> 01:28:33,880
what sounded like you drop a chain and it like

1489
01:28:34,039 --> 01:28:34,680
rolls up on it.

1490
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 4: So well, let me let me interject. We heard that immediately.

1491
01:28:41,079 --> 01:28:43,479
But then she's sitting behind me and we got the wind.

1492
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,399
With the windows down in the truck, I heard what

1493
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,600
sounded like a bull but with two feet and soft feet,

1494
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:53,199
not hoofs, stepped off on one of those big rocks

1495
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:56,520
and it went boom boom, twenty twenty five yards into

1496
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:59,600
the woods beside us. She's got her window down and

1497
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,399
I said, did you hear that? She said yeah. I said,

1498
01:29:03,399 --> 01:29:05,079
what did it sound like? She said, it sounded like

1499
01:29:05,119 --> 01:29:06,880
as big as a cow, but it was two feet.

1500
01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:14,319
See I did it to her the cow. There there are.

1501
01:29:14,279 --> 01:29:19,039
Speaker 3: No cow, you know, it's it's I want to bring

1502
01:29:19,159 --> 01:29:23,760
us up before we get past it. There's two people

1503
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,319
on here. Both of you, at one time or another

1504
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:31,840
have acknowledged the woods and spoke into the wood. I've

1505
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,039
done the same thing, and I'm sure that there's the

1506
01:29:35,159 --> 01:29:39,479
thing that caused me to do it was fear, and

1507
01:29:40,279 --> 01:29:43,119
to the point where I literally stood up in a

1508
01:29:43,279 --> 01:29:48,880
chair at LBL alone many years ago. Uh, and I said,

1509
01:29:50,199 --> 01:29:54,000
please don't hurt us. And I said, my my dog

1510
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:57,239
is a sweet little dog. He wouldn't hurt you. And

1511
01:29:57,359 --> 01:30:01,119
I want and were just camping in enjoy nature that

1512
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:06,319
said something on that line and never heard anything else.

1513
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:07,319
Speaker 7: You know after that.

1514
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,279
Speaker 4: And so Bama does it? You know, does it make

1515
01:30:13,399 --> 01:30:16,199
us feel better? Or are we acknowledging that we know

1516
01:30:16,359 --> 01:30:18,760
you're there, we're not here to you know? Is the

1517
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,159
respect thing? Well, I mean, I know you don't. You

1518
01:30:21,239 --> 01:30:22,159
can't answer that, but.

1519
01:30:24,279 --> 01:30:28,239
Speaker 3: I think you just do it because you're trying to

1520
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:29,479
do something.

1521
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1522
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:38,239
Speaker 3: Now, at my old hunting camping partner, when I got

1523
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,680
more into this on my own, after we'd stopped associating

1524
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:46,199
with each other and doing research and stuff, I started

1525
01:30:46,319 --> 01:30:50,119
remembering stories that he had told me from that camp

1526
01:30:50,279 --> 01:30:54,439
site years before I ever started hunting with him. And

1527
01:30:55,319 --> 01:30:58,319
when he was telling the stories, it was, you know,

1528
01:30:58,399 --> 01:31:02,319
we're just a generalized conversation. And I believe that he

1529
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:07,760
had probably what was a bluff charge, you know, take place.

1530
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:13,439
And because he said when I questioned him, it's funny

1531
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:18,920
he would forget this story when he would get to drinking.

1532
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,279
He would kind of forget the things we talked about

1533
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,520
from you know, a month ago. So I would ask

1534
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,239
him about the same thing over and over because I

1535
01:31:29,319 --> 01:31:32,920
knew I'd get more details, you know, the more that

1536
01:31:33,039 --> 01:31:36,640
I ask him, And I finally got it down to

1537
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:39,319
the description of, well, it sounded like a car coming

1538
01:31:39,359 --> 01:31:41,199
down the hill with the motor off and it's just

1539
01:31:41,319 --> 01:31:45,479
in neutral, you know, just kind of cracking, slowly cracking

1540
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:49,760
and crunching over trees. Now all to say, he didn't

1541
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,840
stand up and go please, you know, leave me alone. Boat.

1542
01:31:52,960 --> 01:32:01,079
You know, he went and got a three eight pistor yeah, thought, yeah,

1543
01:32:01,119 --> 01:32:03,960
and that was that was his little pocket gun. He

1544
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:09,760
carried uh and he got that little uh pistol out

1545
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,479
and he had an on top camper and he's the

1546
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,920
time that if I weren't with him, he would sit

1547
01:32:16,079 --> 01:32:19,600
out in a long chair in the dark with a

1548
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,720
headlamp reading and I just can't do that. I don't

1549
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:28,800
know why. I'm just too nervous of a person to

1550
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:29,159
do that.

1551
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 7: You know.

1552
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 3: When I was with him, always had a fire. But

1553
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,640
he said, well, I just went to the camper and

1554
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,199
got that three eighty yep and uh. And I kind

1555
01:32:37,239 --> 01:32:40,399
of looked at him, like really, and he goes yeah.

1556
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,359
And I came out and I said, get out of here,

1557
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,159
and he said, and I fired off a couple of rounds,

1558
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,439
you know, and uh. And I said, and then what

1559
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,800
he goes, nothing, I didn't hear anything, and I said,

1560
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,079
and he's he's.

1561
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 7: On.

1562
01:32:57,079 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 3: One of the times I questioned about it, I said, well,

1563
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,560
what do you think it was. I was probably a

1564
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,359
couple of bucks up for you know, fighting up in

1565
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:08,279
that thicket or something like that. And I said, well,

1566
01:33:08,319 --> 01:33:10,239
then why did you get a gun and Ye'll get

1567
01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:13,000
out of here if you thought it was two up

1568
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:15,680
in the thicket fighting. This is a thicket between our

1569
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:20,239
campsite and cemetery. People have been there with me know

1570
01:33:20,399 --> 01:33:25,600
exactly where I'm talking about. But I just thought, you know,

1571
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:28,399
I asked him, well, if there's two bucks fighting, why

1572
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,640
did you go get a three eightien come out with

1573
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,239
it so you'll get out of here. So just you know,

1574
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,560
but those are things that I look back on it.

1575
01:33:37,079 --> 01:33:41,279
He would tell stories as if they were natural, naturally

1576
01:33:41,359 --> 01:33:45,000
occurring stories, and I would go and I would look

1577
01:33:45,079 --> 01:33:47,319
back on it and go, huh. He may have had

1578
01:33:47,399 --> 01:33:52,439
things going on there a lot, but simply like most people,

1579
01:33:53,359 --> 01:33:56,439
because of his ignorance. And ignorance isn't a bad word.

1580
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,319
It just simply means that you don't know something or

1581
01:33:59,359 --> 01:34:03,239
haven't studied up on something. I think simply his ignorance

1582
01:34:04,279 --> 01:34:09,399
maybe kept him safe all those years, you know, while

1583
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,960
he was camping and hunting there, because he's probably been

1584
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,359
going there ten years before I ever went there.

1585
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 4: Well, how many times have you interviewed people or become

1586
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,159
friends with them and they get into this because of

1587
01:34:19,359 --> 01:34:23,960
something really specific happened to him, and then they start

1588
01:34:24,079 --> 01:34:26,159
learning about it and now, wait a minute, like Peyton's

1589
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:30,079
done it tonight, you know, yeah, wait a minute, there's

1590
01:34:30,119 --> 01:34:33,319
just one time. Yeah, but go go ahead.

1591
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 7: No, So, I remember you asked me about this is

1592
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:42,279
off subjects. I just it clicked in my head. You

1593
01:34:42,399 --> 01:34:45,520
ask me about paranormal stuff and all that on the

1594
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,720
same property. One time I was out there and U

1595
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:54,640
before I had a stand so I was more walk

1596
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:58,439
a little bit, stop, sit, watch nothing, walk a little bit, sit,

1597
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:03,079
watched out, repeat all that. And there's a there's a

1598
01:35:03,199 --> 01:35:07,279
little creep drainage area that comes down the hill, and

1599
01:35:07,399 --> 01:35:11,479
I'm beside there's a pond not forty five yards from

1600
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,960
where me and Daddy had the rock thrown. I'm sitting

1601
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,880
there and I'm listening. There's not there's not any wind.

1602
01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:23,800
It's not it's perfect, perfect time, like perfect conditions or whatever.

1603
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,600
So I'm listening and I hear in what sounds like

1604
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:32,039
a like a adolescent young male's voice. It's not deep,

1605
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,199
it's not too squeaky, not too high pitched, but it

1606
01:35:35,359 --> 01:35:39,359
was this creak will make a nice spot. And I'm

1607
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:44,039
looking I look up and I listen. I don't hear

1608
01:35:44,079 --> 01:35:48,239
anything else. Like I said, to sneak in on somebody

1609
01:35:48,359 --> 01:35:51,960
there is impossible, especially from the way they would have

1610
01:35:52,079 --> 01:35:55,039
had to come. And you know, I yelled, Hey, if

1611
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:58,880
there's anybody here, you're not supposed to be, you know,

1612
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:03,479
leave now, there's no problems all this. Never heard nobody leave,

1613
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,760
never heard nobody come in. I just heard that one line, Hey,

1614
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:12,600
this creak will make a nice spot, and uh, yeah,

1615
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,359
I don't know what where did that even come from.

1616
01:36:16,399 --> 01:36:20,279
It sounded human, It didn't sound I've heard some people

1617
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,800
say they hear stuff and it sounds distorted, robotic sounding

1618
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:27,800
or something. Right, I've never never heard that or not

1619
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,560
that time, or I've never heard that, but yeah, definitely

1620
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,479
not that time. It was definitely like tell.

1621
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 4: Us about uh when I'm when I missed all those

1622
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,239
phone calls when you were laying down with a bipod

1623
01:36:40,319 --> 01:36:42,920
down about to take a dough and what happened.

1624
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,560
Speaker 7: Talking about to take a dough? I was so, I was,

1625
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:49,239
so the side of this hill right behind my dear

1626
01:36:49,319 --> 01:36:52,600
sand goes down and then in front of it it

1627
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,439
goes down and then back up. It's in it's in

1628
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,960
that same area. So I'm looking it's like two hundred

1629
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,399
and fifty to two hundred eighty yards depending on where

1630
01:37:02,039 --> 01:37:04,760
what angle you're looking at, and there's a dough directly

1631
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,920
in front of me, just outside of the like I

1632
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,039
would say woodline, but it's more like a little thicket

1633
01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:16,079
brush area. And I don't know what caused this, but

1634
01:37:16,199 --> 01:37:18,600
there's like a little flat area up there that's like

1635
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,399
like water or something has washed out, and you could

1636
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,920
go up there and sit. And deer sit in that

1637
01:37:24,079 --> 01:37:27,479
spot because they can put their back against the almost

1638
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,279
like a wall there, and I've seen them laying there

1639
01:37:30,319 --> 01:37:33,199
a lot of times. So there's a dough laying there

1640
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,439
and I can see her. All I can see is

1641
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,439
her the white patch under her neck right here, and

1642
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:43,960
her eyeball, the whites around her eyeballs, and I'm I'm

1643
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:49,279
looking at my scope and she's sitting down and looking

1644
01:37:49,319 --> 01:37:52,359
around and stuff, and every now and then she'll like

1645
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,039
snap her head one way, and I'm like, oh, well,

1646
01:37:54,119 --> 01:37:56,039
maybe there's like a buck or something going to come

1647
01:37:56,079 --> 01:37:59,000
in the way she came in or whatever. So I'm

1648
01:37:59,039 --> 01:38:02,800
looking up behind her. Well, she turns and doesn't look

1649
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,159
right at me, but looks at about a forty five

1650
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:09,119
degree angle to what would be my left up the hill.

1651
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:12,079
Speaker 3: And I heard.

1652
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:20,520
Speaker 7: What sounded like a hedge apple hit the ground, but

1653
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,359
but there's no there's no hedge apple trees in the

1654
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,800
center right there for one to fall out of a tree.

1655
01:38:27,399 --> 01:38:28,920
So I'm thinking something through that.

1656
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:35,119
Speaker 3: People don't know a hedge apple is hard, yeah, And

1657
01:38:35,279 --> 01:38:40,079
I mean, you know, bigger than a softball, and those

1658
01:38:40,199 --> 01:38:43,560
things are rock hard. And one day, Roger, I'll tell

1659
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:49,079
you a police story involving hedge appers, but I can't

1660
01:38:49,159 --> 01:38:49,439
tell this.

1661
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,079
Speaker 7: So I'm like, I'm looking at her through the scope

1662
01:38:55,279 --> 01:39:00,159
and and she stands up and and is looking and

1663
01:39:00,319 --> 01:39:04,319
towards like turns towards whatever She's focused. And I've got

1664
01:39:04,399 --> 01:39:06,319
my scope turned up all the way on her, and

1665
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:11,119
I could see her eyes like getting big, and her

1666
01:39:11,239 --> 01:39:14,880
ears are facing that way like she's focused in on something.

1667
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:18,720
She I was like, maybe there's bucks fighting up there

1668
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,039
or something. I don't know what's going on. But then

1669
01:39:21,119 --> 01:39:26,039
I hear what sounds like a huge hand to smut,

1670
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:34,920
like the soft, wettish ground thud. I'm like, okay, is

1671
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:35,399
that a cow?

1672
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:36,399
Speaker 3: No, I'm kidding, huh.

1673
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 7: So I'm like that was big, and it does it

1674
01:39:42,039 --> 01:39:49,399
a few more times, and I told Daddy this. It's

1675
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:53,560
like something came in my head, like I can't remember

1676
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,439
verbade on what it was. It was like not here

1677
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,800
to hurt you, or it was my voice saying it though,

1678
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,279
but two me in a weird kind of light, I'm thinking, well,

1679
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,079
it's like I thought it, but also it was put there.

1680
01:40:07,159 --> 01:40:10,439
If that makes any sense, right, So I'm watching this

1681
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,640
dough and I'm thinking, well, maybe it's hunting her and

1682
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,800
it's pissed at me or whatever. So what is your

1683
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,840
deer hunting and you spook a deer? What is the

1684
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:24,520
number one time that a deer, especially an adult, grown,

1685
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:28,600
mature dough, is gonna do when she runs, flag off,

1686
01:40:29,159 --> 01:40:33,520
flag that tail? This deer, I'm watching her through the

1687
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:37,079
scope and when everything quiets down, she kind of gets low.

1688
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:42,680
She doesn't flag, she doesn't bolt, She creeps, creeps through

1689
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:47,119
these little interwoven paths they have over all this grown stuff,

1690
01:40:47,159 --> 01:40:50,560
and I'm getting her like she'll disappear for a second

1691
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,319
and then she'll come out and do a clear. And

1692
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,880
she never run, not one time. She creeped out of

1693
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,680
that thing. And when she got on the top of

1694
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:02,039
that hill, she unasked down the hill and don't like,

1695
01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:04,600
she didn't flag though she never raised that tail up

1696
01:41:05,039 --> 01:41:08,479
for anything that I've never seen that before, And I'm

1697
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,119
thinking that's insane.

1698
01:41:10,319 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 4: Like he told me, I'm going to tell you all

1699
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,720
what he uh. Because he's caught between this thumping on

1700
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:23,520
the ground and this deer acting weird and looking back

1701
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,920
behind him and He's laying on the ground on the stomach,

1702
01:41:28,039 --> 01:41:29,600
and I said, what's going through your head?

1703
01:41:31,239 --> 01:41:34,399
Speaker 7: Like up and under the light, laying down like that, and.

1704
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,359
Speaker 4: You got, uh this this I don't want to say

1705
01:41:38,399 --> 01:41:40,600
mind speak, but this thought that comes into his head

1706
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:43,920
that was weird. I said, what were you thinking? He said?

1707
01:41:44,119 --> 01:41:46,000
He said, I thought I was going to turn around

1708
01:41:46,039 --> 01:41:47,760
and one of the big SOB's was gonna be standing

1709
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:48,399
looking at me.

1710
01:41:54,239 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 7: And then it towering over like the thick stuff behind

1711
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,239
me or something like. I just could see that in

1712
01:41:59,319 --> 01:42:00,960
my head, like I'm going to turn around and that

1713
01:42:01,079 --> 01:42:05,800
be there. But yeah, dude, I've never I've never seen

1714
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,920
a deer get scooped and not flag like for at

1715
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,840
least a second. I mean, you know, she never and

1716
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:15,319
that that was the that was the weirdest to me,

1717
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,800
Like that's ingrained him too. Her DNA, like from the

1718
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:24,159
time she was born, following her mom. She is like

1719
01:42:24,359 --> 01:42:28,079
it's hardwired into her head to do that, and she

1720
01:42:28,319 --> 01:42:31,439
didn't for some reason. Wow, that's why that's where my

1721
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,399
head went, Like what did she see? Has she does

1722
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:37,880
she associate that thumping sound with something getting picked up

1723
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,720
and thrown against a tree, like a deer of her

1724
01:42:41,359 --> 01:42:45,119
what like whatever, like and didn't you tell me something?

1725
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,079
Speaker 4: Didn't you tell me you felt the vibrations.

1726
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 7: Than my stomach and my legs and stuff as it

1727
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:55,640
was wow, like I could feel that that shape in

1728
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,640
the ground and like the gun from where the bipod

1729
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:02,520
was on the in the ground kind of like you

1730
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:07,760
could feel it all vibrate. And yeah, I mean it sounded.

1731
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,560
It was absolutely sounded just I mean, I don't even

1732
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,279
know how to describe it. Like you like you got

1733
01:43:14,359 --> 01:43:16,760
like a big imagine like if you had a tampon bar,

1734
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,680
like the thing he's flattening out dirt with. But it

1735
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,199
sounded like it was four feet wide by four feet

1736
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,399
and you were dropping it from about five or six

1737
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:28,520
feet up. That's that's the only thing I can really

1738
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,920
And yeah, I heard the same thing, but it was

1739
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,279
on a stump and this sounded like a rock like

1740
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:37,920
it was. I tried to send this video to Daddy,

1741
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,399
but I was still worked up because I can't do

1742
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:44,600
anything over your breathing and it was like bo.

1743
01:43:46,279 --> 01:43:48,279
Speaker 3: Boom boom.

1744
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:51,399
Speaker 7: But like I told some people about it, you sure

1745
01:43:51,399 --> 01:43:54,520
it wasn't like a post hole digger or a post driver.

1746
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:56,960
I'm like, no, that's like a dig, like that's a

1747
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:01,239
hy drop metallic sounded this sound like a flat rock

1748
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,439
on the top of a piece of flat wood, and

1749
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:10,600
like the wood was pretty big because there wasn't much

1750
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,119
gift to it, you know what I mean, Like it

1751
01:44:13,159 --> 01:44:14,920
didn't sound go as much gift, like it was a

1752
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:22,039
stump or something. I heard that there I've heard. I

1753
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:25,439
take this was this is weird. So I usually always

1754
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,119
have service at this area. And one morning it was

1755
01:44:29,159 --> 01:44:33,079
about four thirty four thirty four forty five sometime in there.

1756
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,800
It's dark, pitch black, can't see anything, no birds are up, nothing,

1757
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,399
and I hear I told Daddy, I heard what sounded

1758
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:44,960
like a mix between like a bull and a like

1759
01:44:45,039 --> 01:44:49,560
a chimp or a gorilla, like screaming a lot of

1760
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,560
long waves away a few ridges over, and it just echoed.

1761
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,079
I didn't get the vibration of it. It wasn't that close. Yeah,

1762
01:44:57,119 --> 01:45:00,399
But daylight comes and there's a little sessim of plane

1763
01:45:01,119 --> 01:45:04,880
circling around and then never have I've never seen a

1764
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,920
plane fly over this area and I lose service. My

1765
01:45:09,079 --> 01:45:14,359
phone goes out like it's it's sos. So I finally

1766
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,800
get to the very very top of the hill and

1767
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,600
that's a long, hard walk. I mean, Daddy knows he's

1768
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:24,319
been there once or twice, but it's steep and it's

1769
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,079
through over the top of dead trees and everything. And

1770
01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:30,000
I finally take to Daddy what all was happening, and

1771
01:45:30,119 --> 01:45:32,600
he was like, I'd probably get out of there if

1772
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,439
I were you. You know, like that sounds crazy, And

1773
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,159
it wasn't like the plane. I don't know. I don't

1774
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:42,640
even know if the plane and the sound have any correlation,

1775
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,359
but it was. It's just like in my head, like

1776
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:50,439
nothing happens for no reason, right, I hear this sound

1777
01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:54,439
as soon as you'd be able to see something from

1778
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:59,079
the sky or whatever, Like the plane starts circling, and

1779
01:45:59,199 --> 01:46:00,640
why is it circling? And you know what I'm saying,

1780
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,439
Like usually they go to one place to another, they

1781
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,239
don't hang around in one spot. I don't know. I

1782
01:46:06,359 --> 01:46:09,800
never I've always had service there don't this one particular time.

1783
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:16,119
I don't, you know, I just weird undescribable things. I

1784
01:46:16,199 --> 01:46:18,560
guess it's the only way to describe it, man, I don't.

1785
01:46:19,359 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 3: It does make your brain automatically associate the two things together.

1786
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:28,439
That kind of like we've heard vocals and at the

1787
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,880
same time saw you know, a bright light and the

1788
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:33,960
sky you know, come falling down.

1789
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,079
Speaker 4: So you I mean, what are the what are the

1790
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:39,880
odds that happened at the same time, you know.

1791
01:46:40,079 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 3: Like it has to be a pretty good still an assumption,

1792
01:46:45,319 --> 01:46:47,880
but it has to be a pretty good assumption that

1793
01:46:48,159 --> 01:46:50,520
the two things are related to each other some way.

1794
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, and you know, and the place you're talking

1795
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:58,439
about is known for super weirdness anyway, I mean.

1796
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:02,520
Speaker 3: Yes, And this is at the fields thirteen hours set

1797
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:04,960
of this back and that's the first and only not

1798
01:47:05,359 --> 01:47:10,319
light phenomenally I've seen there. And once again I'm telling

1799
01:47:10,359 --> 01:47:14,960
the story because there's probably ten people standing there, you know,

1800
01:47:15,159 --> 01:47:16,800
watching it that night when it happened.

1801
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:22,239
Speaker 4: So y'all, this is my wife, Heather, she's watching and

1802
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,840
her she's been with us a lot and she's had

1803
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:27,760
everything happened to see.

1804
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:31,359
Speaker 7: Won sorry to run us off the rails like that.

1805
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 4: No, you're good, no, no, no, But so this place here,

1806
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,520
I'll set it up. It was Peyton, me, Heather and

1807
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,760
Peyton Jack's girlfriend and we had a fire going and

1808
01:47:46,039 --> 01:47:49,640
I've been recording, uh for about three hours, and he

1809
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,640
got on up into the morning, and I cut my

1810
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,840
recorders off and threw them in the truck, and we

1811
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,079
weren't going to leave without putting the fire out, you know,

1812
01:47:57,399 --> 01:47:59,079
and then we'll burn half the county down.

1813
01:48:00,119 --> 01:48:01,079
Speaker 3: Borders were for.

1814
01:48:03,039 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 4: For the activity we've had there quite a bit.

1815
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,279
Speaker 3: Right, So y'all were there specifically for that.

1816
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 4: Right, But we were sitting around the fire talking. We're

1817
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:14,119
trying that tactic, right, if they want to show up,

1818
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:17,000
they show up, they don't, it's fine in.

1819
01:48:17,039 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 7: A pretty active night like we were in bullfrogs, uh,

1820
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,039
the whipper wheels and stuff like that. Like it was

1821
01:48:25,359 --> 01:48:27,600
you remember, like we could hear the whipper wheels and

1822
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:30,079
the bullfrogs and like all the birds and nine and

1823
01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:30,640
owls and.

1824
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:35,079
Speaker 4: Stuff stirred up. And this this this place is where

1825
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:39,479
Peyton I told him to do an alcohol one day

1826
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,880
and you know, he can call the the bar dowls in.

1827
01:48:44,119 --> 01:48:46,960
They'll they'll come in and they're kind of curious or whatever.

1828
01:48:47,359 --> 01:48:50,239
And that's the day we heard our three hundred pound

1829
01:48:50,279 --> 01:48:52,199
ourls sitting on the ground with us, and it was

1830
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:55,479
it was, it was crazy.

1831
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:59,279
Speaker 7: We looked at each other like I was like, well,

1832
01:48:59,359 --> 01:49:01,199
first of all that it was like that was on

1833
01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:05,720
the ground. Yeah, that was like the street top.

1834
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 4: Oh my light just went out. I hope it didn't

1835
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:11,720
get hit by lightning.

1836
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 7: Hold on, all right, go ahead, hit by lightning.

1837
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 4: I just gotta dang. My head just started hurting.

1838
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 3: You're gonna sell it's in for sound.

1839
01:49:22,359 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and dang cows.

1840
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:27,319
Speaker 6: The cow.

1841
01:49:28,359 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 4: So we we're sitting there in the dark, Me and Peyton.

1842
01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:37,359
Our backs are what the woods are? What twenty five

1843
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:40,279
yards away? Thirty yards away? And it's it's a hayfield.

1844
01:49:40,319 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 7: It's anywhere from it's so it's like the closest is

1845
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,760
like twenty five and then it's a long field. So

1846
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:52,359
we've also got woods like eighty five yards away on

1847
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:56,920
that back side of there. And we're sitting there. I've

1848
01:49:57,000 --> 01:50:00,079
got my back to the to the woods where we

1849
01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:04,039
heard it from, and so does he, but he's more

1850
01:50:04,239 --> 01:50:07,199
his back is more turned to it than mine is

1851
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,399
because he then you say, you heard it out of

1852
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:14,920
both ears? What you could hear? You said you heard

1853
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,479
it from both sides, and I only heard it from

1854
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,039
this one ear. It was stood up.

1855
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 4: It was rattling my head, I mean, and it was

1856
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:24,600
it was the most it.

1857
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 7: Was the craziest loudest and most unhuman scream I've ever

1858
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:33,479
heard in my life. And I don't even the best thing.

1859
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,079
Like Daddy said, it was like the way to describe

1860
01:50:36,079 --> 01:50:39,680
it was like you tied somebody up and shaved their

1861
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,880
shinbone meat off and made them listen to Bohemian Rhapsody

1862
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:46,239
for nine hours a day, all day like it was.

1863
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:50,600
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, there was four of us there. I

1864
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:55,239
asked these other three for months randomly, have you figured

1865
01:50:55,279 --> 01:50:57,399
out what that was yet? Do you have anything that

1866
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,840
you can commarre it to? No, and and and for

1867
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:05,720
the first split second it sounded mail and then when

1868
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:09,359
it went up and peeked, it was I don't know

1869
01:51:09,399 --> 01:51:11,319
what a ban see sounds like, but if I had

1870
01:51:11,359 --> 01:51:14,159
to put a label on it in my my memory,

1871
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,159
that's what I'm gonna say, A band see sounds like.

1872
01:51:16,279 --> 01:51:20,319
Now we got a picture, it's hard to tell. We

1873
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,359
were sitting there one night, Peyton and I. You know,

1874
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,439
we we we're able to go at any time, you know,

1875
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:30,079
and hang out there. We had the windows down and

1876
01:51:30,199 --> 01:51:32,760
he looked at me, said I just heard two footsteps

1877
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,720
across the gravel access road right down here. So I

1878
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,680
got I got my camera on night mode, and I'm

1879
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,239
raising above the truck taking pictures and I'm I'll look

1880
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,319
about the fourth picture. There's there's a hay bell out there.

1881
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:50,199
About the fourth picture. Something something's there, and it's got

1882
01:51:50,319 --> 01:51:52,239
to looks like it has a surprise look on its

1883
01:51:52,279 --> 01:51:55,880
face and the chest looks like it's really broad. Now

1884
01:51:55,920 --> 01:52:01,439
I send it to Dog, yeah, but the surprise look. Yeah.

1885
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,279
And so I sent it to Doug and I was like, hey,

1886
01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:06,039
you know, he's a camera expert. I'm like, can you

1887
01:52:06,079 --> 01:52:07,760
go over this and make sure this is not some

1888
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:11,960
kind of anomaly in the you know whatever. And he

1889
01:52:12,119 --> 01:52:14,239
looked at it and he said, now I think something's there.

1890
01:52:14,359 --> 01:52:17,119
He said, I can't tell exactly what it is, but

1891
01:52:18,239 --> 01:52:22,239
you know who knows, you know who knows what. I

1892
01:52:22,319 --> 01:52:25,359
know what it looks like. But and it's the same

1893
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:29,880
field that we had this hlasiaus scream and you talking

1894
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:32,399
about putting people on the move. His girlfriend at the time,

1895
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,079
her feet hit the ground and the next stop she

1896
01:52:35,239 --> 01:52:38,720
was in Peyton's truck and locked him out. I always

1897
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,239
carry extra set of keys, fellas.

1898
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

1899
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what she did. She wouldn't talk

1900
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:49,319
about it. Scared, absolutely terrified her. But at the meeting Greek,

1901
01:52:49,359 --> 01:52:51,119
the first meet and Greek when you met us Bama,

1902
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,000
she was sitting on the back of Peyton's truck and tailgate.

1903
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,520
Spencer came up because she was around a bunch of

1904
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:01,119
people that wasn't gonna make fun of her. I said, hey,

1905
01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:03,199
you want to tell Spencer about what we heard that

1906
01:53:03,359 --> 01:53:07,960
night and you, Bama. You know, when somebody's recalling something terrifying,

1907
01:53:08,039 --> 01:53:10,239
they look off into space, right.

1908
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 3: It's like a visceral effect.

1909
01:53:14,199 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 4: She's not focused on us, She's looking off into the distance.

1910
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,159
And she said, it was the absolute loudest sound I've

1911
01:53:22,199 --> 01:53:24,520
ever heard in my life. And Spencer looked at me

1912
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:27,079
and kind of shoo. He saw the look too, you know,

1913
01:53:27,239 --> 01:53:29,920
he noticed it. You know how Spencer's in tune with

1914
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,880
all that. But she started talking about this stuff and

1915
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,560
stuff that had happened while we were there, and I

1916
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,760
didn't interrupt her because she never had spoken a word

1917
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,279
back home, and I figured this would be good for

1918
01:53:41,359 --> 01:53:43,920
her to get it out, you know, and she did.

1919
01:53:44,039 --> 01:53:46,880
Once she started. It was like a waterfow snowball effect.

1920
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,000
She she let it all out, and you I think

1921
01:53:50,079 --> 01:53:52,880
it was good for her, but uh yeah, she called

1922
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:56,439
her bluffs. Well she thought we were bluffing and and

1923
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:58,560
or we called her bluff. She said, well, let's go

1924
01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,880
right now where we went and we had been there

1925
01:54:01,079 --> 01:54:04,600
what a minute two minutes when we heard y'all heard

1926
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:10,479
the chain the metal sound. So anyway, mamma, you got

1927
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,880
any more, go ahead. I've kind of messed you up here.

1928
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 3: But you know, no, no, no, there's so many you

1929
01:54:18,039 --> 01:54:21,079
know a lot of the stories that Peyton knows, and

1930
01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,800
you know there's a lot of these I haven't heard.

1931
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 4: And so okay, we go to Greggs for the not

1932
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:32,439
the first time, but when we the water's down, and

1933
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,439
we like, hey, Greg, can we go down there and

1934
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:37,640
just look for tracks or whatever reason? I don't care.

1935
01:54:38,079 --> 01:54:40,039
So Peyton and I I'll let you.

1936
01:54:41,239 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 3: For people who don't know, it's you know, you're talking

1937
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:47,439
about Gregg's man Cave, right, yep, yeah, if you're standing,

1938
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,279
Greg has a covered porch on the back of the

1939
01:54:52,359 --> 01:54:58,239
man cave and it goes out, makes a slight slope

1940
01:54:58,319 --> 01:55:01,079
off of a hill maybe twenty arts and then it

1941
01:55:01,239 --> 01:55:07,319
turns the woods and drops significantly down. I mean, it

1942
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:11,640
is a you know, it's a typical Alabama deep collar.

1943
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 4: We say, yea, and what's what's on the other bank?

1944
01:55:16,319 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 3: And when you get down, when you get to the

1945
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:23,560
bottom of that, you're actually coming to Brushy Creek, which

1946
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,880
comes out of the bank Head National Forest there, so you.

1947
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,399
Speaker 4: Can see Bankhead National Forest from his back porch.

1948
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 7: Right.

1949
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 3: Actually, when you turn into his driveway, there's one of

1950
01:55:36,039 --> 01:55:40,000
those big brown National Park signs, you know, the generic

1951
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:43,119
ones that all look the same, just names. Are Welcome

1952
01:55:43,159 --> 01:55:47,199
to Bankhead National w William E. Bankhead National Forest.

1953
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Peyton. Uh So we asked, hey, you mind if

1954
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:52,600
we go and when we need the rolls? Are you

1955
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:54,880
don't bang on stuff, you don't holler, you don't scream

1956
01:55:55,159 --> 01:55:57,399
and all that. Oh yeah, yeah, Can we go down

1957
01:55:57,479 --> 01:55:59,920
and just look for tracks the waters down? I knew

1958
01:56:00,119 --> 01:56:02,439
them just to be a perfect time titan you can

1959
01:56:02,479 --> 01:56:03,159
pick back up.

1960
01:56:06,079 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 7: So we get down there. I mean we've taken maybe

1961
01:56:09,039 --> 01:56:11,840
five steps into like the Sandy Bank area, and I

1962
01:56:12,119 --> 01:56:15,920
immediately notice it's a footprint, but it ain't but like

1963
01:56:16,319 --> 01:56:20,800
that big and it's deep though, like it's I've got

1964
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,319
it on like a three D image what do they

1965
01:56:23,359 --> 01:56:27,159
call that? Lot of a lot of picture on my phone,

1966
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,720
and you can see the toes where they're going down

1967
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,439
and like the weight has pushed them sideways kind of,

1968
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:37,600
and it slid when it stepped, and then the weight

1969
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:42,680
of it stopped and there was like two or three

1970
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,520
of those and then they just stopped like it like

1971
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,560
something picked it up and moved it. Yeah, And we

1972
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,439
found some bigger ones too, but they were in the

1973
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,479
more wetter compact sand. But the one there was one

1974
01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:04,279
of the small ones. It had three fingerprint marks where

1975
01:57:04,319 --> 01:57:08,800
it looked like in the sand, it just stroked like that, yeah,

1976
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,520
like a kid might be yeah, and it and it

1977
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:13,039
looked like.

1978
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 4: It looked like a bigger one Bama had sat down

1979
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,199
and laid over on its side. It left an impression

1980
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,000
what four foot three and a half four foot uh,

1981
01:57:24,399 --> 01:57:26,199
And then it looked like the little one had taken

1982
01:57:26,279 --> 01:57:29,159
its fingers after it got up and was just kind

1983
01:57:29,199 --> 01:57:33,199
of playing and we could specifically see three finger and

1984
01:57:33,319 --> 01:57:35,479
it was no doubt it was finger drags. I mean,

1985
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,560
there was no doubt. We'll tell them, tell them we're

1986
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:41,439
kind of speeding along here. I won't try to and

1987
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:45,199
y'all do this to kind of document things. And I

1988
01:57:45,319 --> 01:57:47,680
know y'all hear me talk about stuff all the time.

1989
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:51,359
But I want you know, if Obama and I go

1990
01:57:51,479 --> 01:57:53,760
somewhere and we do something, something happens, I want him

1991
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,720
telling it with me, you know. So, Uh, Peyton doesn't

1992
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:01,359
do this much so other podcasts, he's he's been asked

1993
01:58:01,399 --> 01:58:03,760
a bunch. He just he just don't. I mean, I mean,

1994
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,840
it's up to him. But anyway, so we go back

1995
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:11,800
two years later. This was last year Water's down. Perfect

1996
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,640
time again. Tell them what happened to us this last time?

1997
01:58:15,439 --> 01:58:18,399
Speaker 3: Till till Cryptic Crystal one from Alabama.

1998
01:58:19,239 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 4: He's one of the Bama Boys. Crypt Yeah, Now, Cryptic Crystal,

1999
01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:27,520
you met him, didn't you? At the meet and greet?

2000
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've met her and her son at Yeah, I

2001
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:34,960
think two two or three different two different capouts.

2002
01:58:35,239 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably had long hair back then.

2003
01:58:38,279 --> 01:58:38,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2004
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:44,039
Speaker 7: But pet we were walking down there and we looked

2005
01:58:44,079 --> 01:58:47,199
across the river and you could see it looked like

2006
01:58:47,279 --> 01:58:51,159
an alligator slide. We're like an alligator slide into the

2007
01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:53,960
water down the bank, because you know, it's a steep

2008
01:58:54,079 --> 01:58:58,479
kind of a steep bank down there, and where something

2009
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:00,800
walked through the water and almost like it was shuffling,

2010
01:59:01,479 --> 01:59:04,399
but there's like a black film on top of the

2011
01:59:04,479 --> 01:59:07,920
sand there, and you could tell it disturb that and

2012
01:59:08,079 --> 01:59:11,279
it flowed down with the water and some of it stayed,

2013
01:59:12,439 --> 01:59:16,239
but it was definitely like you shuffled across the bottom

2014
01:59:16,279 --> 01:59:21,000
of a sandy river that had like dirt on a

2015
01:59:21,039 --> 01:59:24,600
dirt sediment on top of the top layer of sand. Yeah.

2016
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,199
And then we found like it was this was weird.

2017
01:59:27,279 --> 01:59:30,800
We found like drag marks. There were probably like some

2018
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:32,640
of them were like that wide, and some of them

2019
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:36,159
were water and it looked like there were no footprints.

2020
01:59:36,199 --> 01:59:39,720
It looked like something was dragging a stick to maybe

2021
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,760
cover up its traps or something like it.

2022
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:42,479
Speaker 3: That was weird.

2023
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 4: There was no first thing I thought was like, are

2024
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:49,239
there gators here? But but if gators dragging its belly,

2025
01:59:49,359 --> 01:59:52,920
I assume you're going to see the footprints, right.

2026
01:59:53,319 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 7: Well, I thought armadillo too, because I've seen armadilla tracks

2027
01:59:56,960 --> 02:00:00,800
in mud and their tail drags behind them. But I

2028
02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:04,760
was like, like a yeah, but there were no there

2029
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:08,199
were no other kind of claw marks or hoof or

2030
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:10,119
it wasn't a cow like.

2031
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 4: Okay, shut up into the cow. But but we're we're looking,

2032
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,720
so we're looking to the right. I think it's Upper

2033
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:23,560
River Bama.

2034
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:26,079
Speaker 3: And so you're looking north.

2035
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 4: We're looking north, yea, and all of a sudden we

2036
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:36,479
get hit with this funk this smell. Uh I the

2037
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:40,000
only way I can describe it is when rubber is

2038
02:00:40,079 --> 02:00:44,319
about to catch fire, it's hot rubber. That it had

2039
02:00:44,359 --> 02:00:47,119
a stench like that, But it wasn't quite that either,

2040
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:51,000
and you could almost taste it. It was on the air.

2041
02:00:51,479 --> 02:00:53,000
I did a quick air check and.

2042
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,239
Speaker 7: Some like human body odor smells.

2043
02:00:56,399 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, and we checked. You could taste it.

2044
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,159
Speaker 7: It was Yeah, it was bad.

2045
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:10,840
Speaker 4: But anyway, then we had something crossed the river up

2046
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:12,239
there that we couldn't see.

2047
02:01:13,159 --> 02:01:13,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

2048
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:17,319
Speaker 4: I didn't recognize the sound. Uh it sounded like kind

2049
02:01:17,359 --> 02:01:19,439
of like a mix between a goose and a dog.

2050
02:01:20,159 --> 02:01:22,359
But Peyton, you know, he said, the cadence is wrong.

2051
02:01:23,039 --> 02:01:25,359
That's that's totally wrong. I don't know what that is.

2052
02:01:26,279 --> 02:01:28,640
I've heard sand hill cranes, I've heard you know, all

2053
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:33,239
these birds. I didn't. The raspiness is what made me

2054
02:01:33,479 --> 02:01:35,359
compare it to a goose. But it didn't sound like

2055
02:01:35,439 --> 02:01:41,680
a goose. And I'm wondering because we know that there's

2056
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,279
a little one had been down there, you know, before

2057
02:01:44,479 --> 02:01:47,159
we found the tracks. I wonder if we freaked the

2058
02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:50,760
mama out and it the glands released like a gorilla.

2059
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:54,920
You know, we've heard people say that, but I can't

2060
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:58,479
describe that. The only time I've ever tasted a smell

2061
02:01:59,039 --> 02:02:01,520
other than that when I always tell people how to

2062
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:04,079
mail Mountainine p in my mouth. But it's not really

2063
02:02:04,119 --> 02:02:08,239
what happened. We went through it after you sprayed and

2064
02:02:08,319 --> 02:02:12,199
it got all in my mouth. But anyway, but uh, Peyton,

2065
02:02:12,239 --> 02:02:15,439
we're at a two hours. Uh we could we could

2066
02:02:15,479 --> 02:02:16,239
talk about.

2067
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 7: This, y'all.

2068
02:02:18,039 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 3: I was going to say this, but y'all talking about

2069
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:25,840
Gregg's placing down on the creek. You know, people listening,

2070
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:32,560
they may think that you're coming up with different things

2071
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:36,319
or trying to figure out things. Well, once you realize

2072
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:42,039
the property and the history of the property, and the

2073
02:02:42,199 --> 02:02:46,640
history of the property comes from a one Greg house, muh,

2074
02:02:47,359 --> 02:02:52,199
then you it makes you look at things differently. Let's

2075
02:02:52,279 --> 02:02:55,319
just put it that way. Uh, that spot they're talking

2076
02:02:55,359 --> 02:02:58,239
about along the creek down there, it actually flattens out

2077
02:02:58,279 --> 02:03:01,560
at the bottom to the point were when I was

2078
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:04,840
visiting Greg, he said, I'm thinking about putting a like

2079
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:07,520
a cabin down there. Maybe a couple of little, small,

2080
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,720
tiny homes. You know, people can you know, people maybe

2081
02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:18,159
rent them out like an Airbnb or something. I just

2082
02:03:18,279 --> 02:03:21,239
wanted to laugh. Now, let's bear in mind that on

2083
02:03:21,479 --> 02:03:25,880
Greg's where his man cave is, there's a family that

2084
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:30,039
lives right there close to it, and they have a

2085
02:03:30,159 --> 02:03:34,319
house trailer there. They have a little small I call

2086
02:03:34,359 --> 02:03:36,760
it a tiny home, but it's basically a shed that

2087
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:43,319
they've outfitted into a home. And they're less than fifty

2088
02:03:43,439 --> 02:03:47,960
yards away. And and I've asked Greg on several occasions,

2089
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:52,039
have those people ever said anything. He said, They've never

2090
02:03:52,119 --> 02:03:55,560
said a word. They've never said they've seen anything. They've

2091
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:59,399
never said they've heard anything. And and his you know,

2092
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,960
his many property, he's notorious. But I kind of cracked

2093
02:04:03,039 --> 02:04:04,960
up when he said, well, I'm gonna get a couple

2094
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:09,960
of He's got one of those big storage metal storage

2095
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:13,079
containers you know, on his property, and he's got another

2096
02:04:13,119 --> 02:04:17,479
one buried underground as a as a like a storm shelter.

2097
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:19,640
And he said, I'm thinking about setting a couple of

2098
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,039
those down there on that creek Man and renting them out.

2099
02:04:23,079 --> 02:04:25,760
And I just said, I said, the only people you're

2100
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,039
gonna be able to run out to his bigfoot people.

2101
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:31,640
You know, I said, you know, you send some people

2102
02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:34,399
down there that don't know anything. There's no tunnel. What

2103
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:35,760
might happen down there?

2104
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 4: And the thing is with all, Look, we're not just

2105
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:43,239
talking about one or two things. And we're not talking

2106
02:04:43,239 --> 02:04:45,560
about just a couple of people. Uh, there's been a

2107
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:49,359
lot of researchers, a lot of people had different things happen,

2108
02:04:50,399 --> 02:04:53,960
And it's not We were back there when Greg and

2109
02:04:54,399 --> 02:04:56,399
Greg and Peyton and I we went down to visit

2110
02:04:56,560 --> 02:05:00,560
as dark as raining. It was a foggy and we

2111
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:02,720
couldn't do anything. So we're sitting out on the back porch.

2112
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:04,399
And I won't sit there in total darkness.

2113
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:09,319
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm right now while you're talking about it. I

2114
02:05:11,680 --> 02:05:13,720
love to start a fire and a little fire pit

2115
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,279
and sit around, you know. And he's got a fire pit.

2116
02:05:16,439 --> 02:05:19,680
That's not He's got a fire pit not ten feet

2117
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:23,079
from the steps of the back porch.

2118
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 7: Uh.

2119
02:05:24,239 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't sit at the corner on that porch, no,

2120
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:30,920
uh at not with him out there.

2121
02:05:31,439 --> 02:05:36,199
Speaker 4: No, and flat Rock with his armed flat Rock can

2122
02:05:36,279 --> 02:05:39,039
tell you he had a frightening and we were on

2123
02:05:39,119 --> 02:05:40,680
a kind of like a zoom call.

2124
02:05:41,279 --> 02:05:41,399
Speaker 7: You know.

2125
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:43,520
Speaker 4: We were in flat Rock when he was at Greggs.

2126
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:45,840
He went out to smoke a cigarette and to come in,

2127
02:05:46,039 --> 02:05:49,359
and Gregg's talking and he says, he looks over at

2128
02:05:49,359 --> 02:05:51,039
flat Rock and he said, you all right, flat Rock?

2129
02:05:51,119 --> 02:05:56,000
He said, uh uh, if you're scared, you scared flat Rock,

2130
02:05:56,760 --> 02:05:58,920
You've done something, because flat Rock goes with this stuff

2131
02:05:58,920 --> 02:05:59,319
all time.

2132
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything there or heard anything there. And

2133
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:08,720
I wasn't psyched out about the stories there. It wasn't

2134
02:06:08,800 --> 02:06:13,239
any of that. It was and I love to sit

2135
02:06:13,319 --> 02:06:16,000
out at night listen to the Nine Animals and stuff

2136
02:06:16,079 --> 02:06:19,600
like that, and uh man, I couldn't wait to get inside.

2137
02:06:20,439 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 7: And and it like the last time we were there,

2138
02:06:26,199 --> 02:06:28,960
there was such walking to the truck was such like

2139
02:06:29,119 --> 02:06:32,399
this heavy, and that's only happened to me one time.

2140
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:35,159
And it was that last time we were there. We

2141
02:06:35,319 --> 02:06:37,239
left it like two in the morning, me and Breed

2142
02:06:37,319 --> 02:06:43,000
is yeah, and it felt I took the truck. I

2143
02:06:43,119 --> 02:06:45,560
went out, got the truck and almost pulled it up

2144
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:49,640
on Greg's ramp right there, right at the front door,

2145
02:06:50,479 --> 02:06:53,159
walk between vehicles or anything like that. I think I

2146
02:06:53,279 --> 02:06:56,319
went out to get something actually at first, and I'm

2147
02:06:56,399 --> 02:06:58,000
like I don't want to make this walk again, so

2148
02:06:58,039 --> 02:07:00,359
I'm going to move the truck. And it was like,

2149
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:03,760
it's just like you threw like a a weighted blanket

2150
02:07:03,840 --> 02:07:06,399
on you or something right, and it's just like and

2151
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:08,760
then you get out so far and you can't see

2152
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:11,319
anything because the light behind you only go so far,

2153
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:13,720
and then you're on the edge of the darkness down

2154
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:14,720
not right like that.

2155
02:07:16,119 --> 02:07:19,000
Speaker 4: And Peyton has seen a couple of things there, uh

2156
02:07:21,319 --> 02:07:23,840
the one when me and Joe Parker was behind you,

2157
02:07:24,159 --> 02:07:25,680
uh by me. You know, you step off the porch,

2158
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:27,960
go past the little metal building and that trail that

2159
02:07:28,079 --> 02:07:31,680
goes up right okay, so it was getting.

2160
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:36,439
Speaker 3: Dark action leads up to a sub a small subdivision

2161
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,720
on up the heel of the Surprising Man, and.

2162
02:07:41,239 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 4: But that side and you know right there and to

2163
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:46,279
the left down the little lane.

2164
02:07:47,119 --> 02:07:47,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

2165
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:50,640
Speaker 4: I would probably bet one hundred bucks at the big

2166
02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,039
Foot and climbing that bluff. They're coming either over here

2167
02:07:53,319 --> 02:07:55,600
or they come or leaving and coming these two ways.

2168
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:59,279
I was walking up. Joe was beside me, and it

2169
02:07:59,359 --> 02:08:01,520
was getting starting to get a little you know, you

2170
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:03,680
can still see good, but it's just starting to get dark.

2171
02:08:04,399 --> 02:08:06,640
And you know, I know Peyton. I've been you know,

2172
02:08:07,079 --> 02:08:10,399
I know him. And he was up above us about

2173
02:08:10,479 --> 02:08:14,319
fifteen twenty yards and he has stopped and he's pointing

2174
02:08:14,439 --> 02:08:17,600
like a bird dog. He's looking and I see him

2175
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:20,039
rocking to the left a little bit, and he's rocking

2176
02:08:20,119 --> 02:08:23,439
to the right. And I punched Joe. I'm like, you know,

2177
02:08:24,239 --> 02:08:27,520
and joe yos out what you see over He was

2178
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:31,319
trying to be quiet, but tell him what you saw

2179
02:08:31,439 --> 02:08:31,800
that day.

2180
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,479
Speaker 7: It looked like dud. It looks like shoulders cross That's

2181
02:08:36,479 --> 02:08:39,479
all I saw. It looked like shoulders went from one

2182
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,680
side of the path to another behind the tree and

2183
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:46,079
down gone. And that's why I was moving to try

2184
02:08:46,119 --> 02:08:47,159
to see if I can get.

2185
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:48,399
Speaker 3: A view of.

2186
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 7: It crossing between trees or something. But it was like

2187
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:58,359
a split second flash for people listening. When you're walking

2188
02:08:58,479 --> 02:09:03,239
up that path. To your left is a drop off

2189
02:09:03,359 --> 02:09:06,760
that goes straight down to the to the Greek and

2190
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:10,800
to your right it's heavily wooded. You see through there

2191
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:14,279
pretty clear. But the thing about Greggs is like a

2192
02:09:14,319 --> 02:09:17,800
lot of battle. Bama's surrounded by pine straw of pine trees,

2193
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:24,000
and around Greggs Place literally its feet and feet deep

2194
02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:27,760
of pine straw from years and years and years, so

2195
02:09:29,399 --> 02:09:33,520
it nothing makes a noise when it walked. The control burning,

2196
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:36,119
so he doesn't set it on fire by flicking a cigarette,

2197
02:09:36,159 --> 02:09:38,640
but yeah, py a torch or something.

2198
02:09:39,399 --> 02:09:43,319
Speaker 3: I stayed in that bedroom on the one side, and

2199
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:47,439
I thought, man, I'm just gonna crack this window, and

2200
02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:51,399
I just I couldn't. I couldn't sleep with the window

2201
02:09:51,479 --> 02:09:55,319
crack because because the bottom of the window was only

2202
02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,640
you know, two or three feet from from the pine straw.

2203
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:02,439
And I thought, I just can't sleep that day. And

2204
02:10:03,119 --> 02:10:07,079
I'm not exaggerating. I'm laying in there and there's two

2205
02:10:07,199 --> 02:10:11,399
a or fifteen's on that one wall just in that room,

2206
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:15,039
a shotgun, you know, some other stuff, and of course me,

2207
02:10:15,159 --> 02:10:19,880
I'm armed, and and Gregg's in the other room. I

2208
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:23,880
think Greg he Greg couldn't sleep very well cause of

2209
02:10:23,920 --> 02:10:27,199
pain then too, so he was sleeping in that recliner

2210
02:10:27,279 --> 02:10:31,279
in there. Well he's literally in there with a bunch

2211
02:10:31,399 --> 02:10:37,439
of guns, you know. So I thought I eventually got

2212
02:10:37,479 --> 02:10:40,479
to work. I wouldn't even sleep with the shade up.

2213
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:42,920
And this is what's funny, as a shade was down,

2214
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:46,279
so it's pitch black in there, and I put a

2215
02:10:46,359 --> 02:10:48,359
fan in there so i'd have a little bit of noise.

2216
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,640
And I kept waking up looking at my watch and

2217
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:53,119
it was like such and such clock.

2218
02:10:53,159 --> 02:10:54,039
Speaker 7: I don't remember what it was.

2219
02:10:54,199 --> 02:10:57,960
Speaker 3: Well, my watch had gone dead for some reason.

2220
02:10:58,479 --> 02:11:01,039
Speaker 7: He just stuck in like this, I'm loop or something.

2221
02:11:01,239 --> 02:11:04,399
Speaker 3: Just my watch went dead. So every time I look

2222
02:11:04,439 --> 02:11:07,439
at my watch, I go, oh, man, it's only four

2223
02:11:07,479 --> 02:11:09,560
o'clock in the morning. Man, I just and the next

2224
02:11:09,640 --> 02:11:11,319
thing I know, I reach over in like the pull

2225
02:11:11,359 --> 02:11:16,119
that that he's got black at black black blackout shades.

2226
02:11:16,399 --> 02:11:19,880
They ain't even shades. He made them himself to.

2227
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:21,319
Speaker 7: A blackout for something.

2228
02:11:22,159 --> 02:11:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when I pulled the shade back at the

2229
02:11:25,039 --> 02:11:28,760
light was just glaring and I'm like, I'm like Greg,

2230
02:11:29,279 --> 02:11:31,560
He's like, yeah, I'm like, what time is it? He

2231
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:35,159
goes he said something like nine o'clock or something, you know,

2232
02:11:35,319 --> 02:11:39,239
own up in the morning for me. But I did not.

2233
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:43,680
I didn't sleep well at all, you know.

2234
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 7: There. I don't think he either, dude. Yeah, there was

2235
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:52,399
one time we were out there and uh, I caught

2236
02:11:52,439 --> 02:11:56,640
a glimpse of something walking in front of the door, fast,

2237
02:11:57,359 --> 02:11:59,399
right in front of the front door. Yeah, and I

2238
02:11:59,479 --> 02:12:01,640
think I saw in a reflection out of a mirror.

2239
02:12:02,319 --> 02:12:04,960
There's a mirror somewhere that I saw or something like

2240
02:12:05,079 --> 02:12:07,560
a I can't remember what it was. It might have

2241
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:09,840
been a knife case or something. I don't remember exactly what.

2242
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:16,520
Speaker 3: And that door is probably five feet off the ground, yeah,

2243
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:17,239
with the.

2244
02:12:17,319 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 7: Ramp going up to it and cars right off of that,

2245
02:12:21,359 --> 02:12:23,560
and whatever it was was tall enough that I saw,

2246
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:26,800
like a it's literally just out of the peripherial, just

2247
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:30,039
swoop by the door, go by the door. And I

2248
02:12:30,159 --> 02:12:32,560
asked Greg about that, and he said that Kombo actually

2249
02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:36,119
saw got a good glimpse of one doing it the

2250
02:12:36,800 --> 02:12:40,279
like two weeks before or something, and that was the

2251
02:12:40,359 --> 02:12:43,279
same night. And I'm just like, dude, I don't want

2252
02:12:43,319 --> 02:12:45,319
to walk. I'm just I'm gonna stay here because.

2253
02:12:45,039 --> 02:12:48,439
Speaker 3: I don't want to walk out to my vehicle, yeah.

2254
02:12:48,239 --> 02:12:51,000
Speaker 7: One in the morning or something to leave. And then

2255
02:12:51,039 --> 02:12:54,439
I'm always scared that I'm gonna backing out and as

2256
02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:58,720
the headlights are panning you know woods or whatever, that

2257
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:01,359
there's just one stand in there and whatever.

2258
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 3: But and y'all, this is a place to where people

2259
02:13:07,159 --> 02:13:12,439
have had encounters when going out to leave to their vehicle.

2260
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,920
And I had to go out to my vehicle, probably

2261
02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:18,279
a couple of times when.

2262
02:13:18,199 --> 02:13:19,119
Speaker 7: It was dark. You know.

2263
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:22,199
Speaker 4: I want to tell you what I do. Peyton can

2264
02:13:22,239 --> 02:13:24,920
confirm this if we leave one two, three o'clock in

2265
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:28,319
the morning. I opened the door and looked both ways

2266
02:13:28,319 --> 02:13:30,199
and I said, we're coming to We're going to the truck.

2267
02:13:30,239 --> 02:13:31,720
Don't throw anything at the place.

2268
02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:33,119
Speaker 2: I really do.

2269
02:13:34,239 --> 02:13:37,520
Speaker 4: It makes me feel better. I don't know, but and

2270
02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:40,760
I know people that don't know Greg's stories and and

2271
02:13:41,079 --> 02:13:43,960
and the things that have gone on there. Uh, I

2272
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:46,600
mean I found the hair. I found. We found several

2273
02:13:46,680 --> 02:13:48,439
hairs on the door. He said, something tried to open

2274
02:13:48,479 --> 02:13:52,399
my door last night or two o'clock in the morning. Yeah.

2275
02:13:52,479 --> 02:13:55,800
I go over and start scanning and looking and there

2276
02:13:56,039 --> 02:13:59,399
there's there's hair. And I won't get into it, but

2277
02:13:59,479 --> 02:14:01,600
it matches up if something was standing on the other

2278
02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:04,319
side of the rail and reached across everything.

2279
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:08,439
Speaker 3: I asked him when I was there, I said, man,

2280
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:10,680
you locked the doors, and he just kind of looked

2281
02:14:10,720 --> 02:14:13,960
at me like I was crazy, you know, But you know,

2282
02:14:14,199 --> 02:14:17,039
he goes, man, don't think those things won't come up

2283
02:14:17,039 --> 02:14:20,279
here and rally you know, rallyed the door knoll, you.

2284
02:14:20,319 --> 02:14:24,359
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, yeah, or One of the scarest ones I

2285
02:14:24,439 --> 02:14:27,199
heard was when he heard one outside It was it

2286
02:14:27,319 --> 02:14:29,640
was pushing on a bedroom wall and he could hear

2287
02:14:29,680 --> 02:14:31,760
the wood cracking a little bit.

2288
02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:34,439
Speaker 3: Well, they've got on the roof there. I went up

2289
02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:37,640
shortly after. Who was grit? I'm so sorry I can't

2290
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:42,800
remember this. Who was Gregg's friend that passed away? Here?

2291
02:14:43,199 --> 02:14:43,960
Speaker 4: Not too Allen?

2292
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:48,119
Speaker 3: Okay? Alan? You know the story with Alan where he

2293
02:14:48,279 --> 02:14:51,920
was visiting for Christmas or Thanksgiving or something and they

2294
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:54,359
had been over Greg's house having to get together. He

2295
02:14:54,479 --> 02:14:56,880
went back to the man Cave by himself. Now the

2296
02:14:56,960 --> 02:15:00,479
man caves a few miles from Gregg's house, when everybody

2297
02:15:00,560 --> 02:15:03,680
know that it's not like on his property. But Alan

2298
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:08,560
had gone back and parked, walked up the ramp to

2299
02:15:08,680 --> 02:15:11,359
the front door and put the key in it and

2300
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:15,760
heard a grunt and turned around and one was standing, uh,

2301
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:20,279
with its hands on top of the pro big propane tank,

2302
02:15:20,399 --> 02:15:23,640
most big giant propane tanks, you know, standing looking over

2303
02:15:23,680 --> 02:15:27,479
the top. And of course he called Greg after right

2304
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:31,359
after he got in there. But I went some time

2305
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:36,279
after that, and you know me, I'm always dissecting crime

2306
02:15:36,399 --> 02:15:38,560
scene and stuff. You know, I'm out there of the

2307
02:15:38,640 --> 02:15:42,760
day Cameron tape measure, and because I wanted to know

2308
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:46,840
how far he was from this tank. And when I

2309
02:15:47,119 --> 02:15:49,760
walked behind that tank the way it is on the hill,

2310
02:15:50,119 --> 02:15:53,159
I'm six foot. Even when I walked behind the tank,

2311
02:15:53,479 --> 02:15:57,720
the tank hit me about here on my chest. And

2312
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:00,800
this thing was standing over the tank with its hands

2313
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:01,560
down on top.

2314
02:16:02,279 --> 02:16:05,159
Speaker 4: And when I went around the tank, just like you said,

2315
02:16:05,199 --> 02:16:06,840
I was just wanting to see what was back there

2316
02:16:07,239 --> 02:16:11,760
all and it dips and then you walk off down

2317
02:16:11,840 --> 02:16:13,800
to the that little access road too.

2318
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:17,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a you know, but there's a few little

2319
02:16:17,239 --> 02:16:20,079
roads there behind that tank. It drops into a little

2320
02:16:20,399 --> 02:16:23,600
shallow hollow and then like you said, there's a there's

2321
02:16:23,640 --> 02:16:26,920
a road runs through there, and uh, you know, that's

2322
02:16:27,239 --> 02:16:30,359
easy access. And with all that pine straw, man, you

2323
02:16:30,439 --> 02:16:33,319
could just ease right up there, you know, without making

2324
02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:39,200
a noise. Well, y'all, I reckon, we better let everybody go.

2325
02:16:41,079 --> 02:16:43,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got something going on outside. I don't know

2326
02:16:43,239 --> 02:16:43,440
it is.

2327
02:16:44,360 --> 02:16:47,680
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all and te everybody in the chat. I

2328
02:16:47,799 --> 02:16:48,840
really appreciate y'all.

2329
02:16:48,879 --> 02:16:49,319
Speaker 7: I love you.

2330
02:16:50,239 --> 02:16:51,719
Speaker 3: Y'all are like my family.

2331
02:16:52,399 --> 02:16:54,840
Speaker 4: Yep, thank you, thank you, sir. I appreciate you coming on,

2332
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:57,719
and you know, uh, it's made it so much better

2333
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:00,280
because if I'd have done it by myself, if it

2334
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:02,040
just wouldn't have been the same. You came up with

2335
02:17:02,079 --> 02:17:06,040
some great, great questions and there's a lot of you know,

2336
02:17:06,079 --> 02:17:10,120
there's a lot more we could talk about, but you

2337
02:17:10,239 --> 02:17:12,719
can't get to overloaded too with some of this, and

2338
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:16,239
it sounds like, oh my god, they're it's like being.

2339
02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:18,920
Speaker 3: In a meet and greet to where somebody tells a

2340
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:21,879
story and oh yeah, yeah, I mean somebody else tells

2341
02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:24,959
a story and it's like Kell said one time, she goes.

2342
02:17:25,319 --> 02:17:27,280
You know, I know it's not like this way, but

2343
02:17:27,559 --> 02:17:31,959
it's like people one up in each other and she goes,

2344
02:17:32,760 --> 02:17:37,120
but they're not trying to Each story just gets more,

2345
02:17:37,879 --> 02:17:40,600
you know. If somebody says something that the next person's

2346
02:17:40,600 --> 02:17:44,159
stories it happened to me, but and there's something crazier

2347
02:17:44,239 --> 02:17:45,239
that happened well.

2348
02:17:45,399 --> 02:17:47,639
Speaker 4: And that's what's good about talking about it in the

2349
02:17:47,719 --> 02:17:51,399
groups like that, because it'll remind you of something. Oh man, yeah,

2350
02:17:51,639 --> 02:17:54,680
I know it. But it's comforting too to like, oh

2351
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:56,959
that happened to you too. I was wondering that I

2352
02:17:57,040 --> 02:17:58,079
thought I was crazy.

2353
02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:01,040
Speaker 3: You know, man like minded people to be around.

2354
02:18:01,000 --> 02:18:01,159
Speaker 7: You know.

2355
02:18:02,079 --> 02:18:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all, Peyton, I know you've gotta work tomorrow, so

2356
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:07,600
be careful out there and holler at me when you

2357
02:18:08,959 --> 02:18:11,159
get off, and we might, uh we might sneak out

2358
02:18:11,159 --> 02:18:14,760
to the to the the North End hot spot tomorrow

2359
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:18,959
night if you want to. But heint committing, y'all, ain't

2360
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:22,559
saying nothing. All right, We're gonna get out of here.

2361
02:18:23,639 --> 02:18:26,000
Thank you, byma, have a good night, all right, love

2362
02:18:26,079 --> 02:18:29,319
y'all talk to you, lady Peyton. Everybody in chat, thank

2363
02:18:29,399 --> 02:18:32,200
y'all so much for being here. We we really enjoy y'all,

2364
02:18:32,360 --> 02:18:36,959
you know, interacting, and uh my chat has been messed

2365
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:39,719
up a little bit, so I haven't been getting all

2366
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:59,319
of them. But anyway, here we go, Bye bye pines

2367
02:18:59,319 --> 02:19:02,239
with the water runs black, where the moss sangs low

2368
02:19:02,399 --> 02:19:03,799
and the night leans back.

2369
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:08,319
Speaker 5: The stores whisper about a shadow, tall, big feet moving

2370
02:19:08,399 --> 02:19:11,360
where the moon that fall. Some say it be some

2371
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:12,959
saved ghost in the trees.

2372
02:19:13,360 --> 02:19:16,120
Speaker 3: Some say it trouble blowing in with the breeze.

2373
02:19:16,559 --> 02:19:19,120
Speaker 5: But around here, man, we know the call, or we

2374
02:19:19,360 --> 02:19:22,040
just call him friends the squatching howler.

2375
02:19:24,559 --> 02:19:28,479
Speaker 6: So lie that let the cat tell sick in the

2376
02:19:28,639 --> 02:19:34,559
nightbird time, the copper heads feeding here, Georgia fall that

2377
02:19:34,680 --> 02:19:37,200
ain't on and it ain't no gone.

2378
02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:40,399
Speaker 1: When the creek brother's cold and the shadows get taller.

2379
02:19:40,559 --> 02:19:44,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, your brother's lit in the squatting, the legs.

2380
02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:46,440
Speaker 5: Walk getting a brave man fiddle to.

2381
02:19:46,920 --> 02:19:48,799
Speaker 3: But I mind your stamping and squatching.

2382
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:51,040
Speaker 2: How we're.

2383
02:20:00,079 --> 02:20:09,840
Speaker 5: Boody, Tell me stories about the thing.

2384
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:11,520
Speaker 3: Ain't saut to ten.

2385
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:12,920
Speaker 4: Foot high with a tomb.

2386
02:20:13,000 --> 02:20:16,520
Speaker 1: But y'all red eyes burning like a summer's coat.

2387
02:20:17,159 --> 02:20:20,079
Speaker 5: Let the tracks big enough to swail your sober the

2388
02:20:20,239 --> 02:20:23,600
old folks last, say, don't you fear if Corid has

2389
02:20:23,680 --> 02:20:27,280
been living here for hundreds of years, treat them with respect.

2390
02:20:27,399 --> 02:20:29,520
Speaker 3: When the moon gets smaller.

2391
02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:31,319
Speaker 5: And they'll let you live in squatching.

2392
02:20:31,479 --> 02:20:34,159
Speaker 4: Holler sold that fire.

2393
02:20:34,639 --> 02:20:36,399
Speaker 5: Hell, let the swamp from roll.

2394
02:20:36,559 --> 02:20:39,440
Speaker 3: You can hear that beace right down in your soul.

2395
02:20:39,639 --> 02:20:41,719
If you hear her grun up from the river.

2396
02:20:42,040 --> 02:20:43,280
Speaker 7: Call it ain't no.

2397
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:47,239
Speaker 5: Boat frot barking that lord, little swamp runner still and

2398
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:51,040
the crickets get salty. Y'all lie alone and it's fatting

2399
02:20:51,319 --> 02:20:52,360
on the weather break.

2400
02:20:52,479 --> 02:20:56,159
Speaker 4: They tries in the fools of cob Lord, can't watching you.

2401
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:57,879
Speaker 1: That spotting holler.

2402
02:21:28,360 --> 02:21:31,200
Speaker 4: Some say guards it old pine Ridge.

2403
02:21:31,399 --> 02:21:34,120
Speaker 2: Some say he walks from bridge to bridge.

2404
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:35,600
Speaker 4: The warm things show.

2405
02:21:35,719 --> 02:21:39,559
Speaker 5: When the night comes down, something big still calls.

2406
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:44,040
Speaker 4: It's grown so bank that fire.

2407
02:21:44,879 --> 02:21:48,120
Speaker 6: Let the night get deep at the windows whistle while

2408
02:21:48,159 --> 02:21:49,440
the cuts up creeps.

2409
02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:52,879
Speaker 5: If you catch us glimpse through the midnight, holler, just

2410
02:21:53,079 --> 02:21:53,840
now your head.

2411
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:57,120
Speaker 6: Don't scream and holler, because a while on string and

2412
02:21:57,239 --> 02:22:01,440
the legends getting taller. Wherever you wrong in watching Holly,

2413
02:22:01,959 --> 02:22:05,159
we ain't scared, but we should stay castles down

2414
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:07,520
Speaker 4: In the dock of that squatting hall.

