WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.519 And I just turned around and I call ass out 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:06.799 of there. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.160 I was done. 4 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:09.359 I wasn't dealing with them. 5 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:15.240 The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things 6 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:16.600 that turned me. 7 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:17.920 Away the quickest. 8 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:23.839 When I turned my head lights on, it turned and 9 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:24.600 looked at us. 10 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:27.559 And one of the things I remember the most, where 11 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:33.399 the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. 12 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:37.560 It is just circling these steps like it is waiting 13 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:37.960 for me. 14 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:45.159 And he begins to tell them that he saw Ufo. 15 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:47.359 They're basically like, what are you talking about? 16 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.920 That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it 17 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:55.359 and that's where I saw. 18 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.000 The top of the muzzle, noose and the eyes. 19 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.520 As soon as I made eye contact with this thing. 20 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.479 I don't like death. 21 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.400 Like thak. This time to welcome my guest tonight, Cynthia. 22 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:10.000 Thanks for coming on, you're talking to me. 23 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:13.439 Thanks for having me on. I've been looking forward to this. 24 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.719 Would you like to let the audience know a little 25 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:16.560 bit about yourself? 26 00:01:17.319 --> 00:01:22.120 Sure? You can find me on Facebook, Sin Trader Hill author. 27 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.599 My group is also on there at ELK value Paranormal. 28 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.519 You can go to my website elk Valipiranormal dot com. 29 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.000 I have five books on Amazon, currently working on six, seven, 30 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:37.799 and eight, and I'm also editing other people's books the 31 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:42.359 same time, so those are all on Amazon. And again, 32 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:44.439 sin Trader Hill, if you've got a story for me 33 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.519 that you'd like for me to consider in one of 34 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.280 my books, you can reach me at Sintraderhill author at 35 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:51.319 gmail dot com. 36 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:55.840 I'll make sure to put that in the show notes. Okay, 37 00:01:56.040 --> 00:02:00.599 So what sort of books do you write? 38 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:06.319 Mostly true ghost stories. I started my first book I 39 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:10.719 really really wanted to bring out about my EVPs because 40 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:14.120 that was what I enjoyed doing most, working with audio. 41 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.560 I just couldn't figure out how to do it. So 42 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:22.199 it became my third book, and I decided to go 43 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:26.439 ahead and get some short stories out, and I put 44 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:29.400 out Whispers in the Dark True Ghost Stories and Eerie Tales, 45 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:34.840 which is mostly about this county, Lincoln County, Tennessee, which 46 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:39.520 is just north of Huntsville, Alabama. We're in southern Middle Tennessee, 47 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:44.280 right in the middle below Nashville. And there are twenty 48 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:47.560 three short stories. Eighteen of them are here in the county. 49 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:52.520 The others one was when I lived in Arizona, when 50 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:56.840 I was on vacation in Helen Georgia, and then a 51 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:00.439 couple of my teammates had some stories, so we put 52 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:03.879 in that. I've also got a two parter from Lynchburg, Tennessee, 53 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:07.960 where Jack Daniels is made at the old funeral home there. 54 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:11.319 So that was the first one. The second one was 55 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.400 a fiction book that Mark and I decided to write. 56 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.680 Mark Elliott Fultz. He's the one that does the covers 57 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:20.439 and the illustrations on all my books, and I edit 58 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.199 in return for him. So he does all of the 59 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:28.400 illustrations and covers and I edit, and that's how we 60 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:33.800 make it work. But I just finished his cookbook, which 61 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.919 is my mean old Grandma's good old cookbook with seventeen 62 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:41.000 hundred and eighty eight recipes. This is this thing's like 63 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:44.479 a phone book. It's a freaking phone book. But he's 64 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:50.800 got things in there like Senator story, funeral foods, Frozen Charlotte. 65 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:55.319 The Frozen Charlotte story where the girl was too vain 66 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.520 to wear a coat over her nice ball gown when 67 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:04.159 she was going going to this festival during a snowstorm, 68 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:07.680 and when she got there she was frozen stiff. So 69 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.120 that started back in the eighteen hundreds, I think and 70 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.759 it was a song, a poem, a story. That's what 71 00:04:17.079 --> 00:04:22.160 all the china dolls are fashioned after. And then this 72 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:27.759 dessert that people started doing, and it's called frozen Charlotte 73 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:33.360 Dessert actually sounds pretty good. It's when they kind of 74 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.040 first figured out how to work with gelatine and putting 75 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.399 all that together, so that cookbook was interesting. He's also 76 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:46.759 got a ugly sister side, which there's a warning to 77 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:50.279 anybody that gets the book, if you're squeamish, don't go 78 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.279 into that section. And it's got things like deer hagis 79 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:00.920 regular hagis you know, deer hagis his. The recipes is 80 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:06.079 the heart, and you know, the other is what lung 81 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:11.800 and different parts. There's ways to kill possum's raccoons, just 82 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:16.160 you know, all this kind of weird, weird stuff that 83 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.120 he has collected these recipes over the years. His grandmother 84 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.279 was a fantastic cook, but not such a fantastic person, 85 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:26.519 and that's why it's called my mean old Grandma. But 86 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:30.759 finally got that done after fourteen and a half months, 87 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:35.040 so now I can concentrate on my books again. And 88 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:40.759 I started working on my fourth book back in twenty 89 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:43.720 twenty and It was on Signs from Our loved Ones, 90 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.600 and I didn't really have a lot, but I put 91 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.920 a feeler out on Facebook for stories about anyone that 92 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:52.639 has had a vision of their loved one that's passed, 93 00:05:52.759 --> 00:06:00.199 or deathbed stories or you know, cardinals, pennies from and 94 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.319 you know all that kind of stuff. So that book 95 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.800 sparked a sequel, and I'm working on that sequel right now. 96 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.240 It did have near death experiences in the first one, 97 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.839 but this time for the sequel, I was getting so 98 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.519 many near death experience stories I decided to separate those. 99 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.120 So the first book I'm bringing out next, which will 100 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.600 be number six, is going to be death Store Step 101 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:31.199 near death Experiences, Angel rescues, and spirit Warnings, so a 102 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.480 lot of near misses and things like that. And then 103 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:37.759 right after that will be the Signs sequel that will 104 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:42.680 feature everything else, including animal spirits that come back and 105 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.480 you know, say hi to you, jump up on the bed, 106 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:50.360 and you know whatever, just anything like that, and then 107 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:54.920 a spooky book coming out. So the last one I 108 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.040 did was Realm of Shadows, and it was some of 109 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.399 the darker investigations I've been on, and a lot that 110 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.680 my friends had sent me that weird things that had 111 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:08.399 happened to them, like faces changing and you know, just odd, 112 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:15.439 odd circumstances things like that. So another dark book of 113 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:21.360 short stories is coming out as number six eight. We'll 114 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:23.079 see what happens. We'll see when I'm going to bring 115 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:23.480 them out. 116 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.959 So what got you into doing all of this? Obviously? 117 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:31.800 I always say there's something that drives people into going 118 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:34.000 this route, Like it's not just something you wake up 119 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.079 on Dannie like, Hey, I'm going to start writing books 120 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:37.319 about weird stuff. 121 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:42.839 Right, Yeah. Well I started editing first for Mark, and 122 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.360 I knew I wanted to write a book, but just 123 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.120 didn't know how to go about it, didn't really know 124 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:53.199 what to write about. And then when I started investigating, 125 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:58.199 I was collecting all of my recordings, going through all 126 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:03.279 the audio, and that third book that was supposed to 127 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:07.160 be my first one, I finally figured out how to 128 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:10.879 get it across. So it's they're speaking, are you listening 129 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:15.720 my most compelling EVPs? And you can read the book 130 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:19.360 or the kendle, either one paperback or kindle, and then 131 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.600 go to my website at Valleparanormal dot com and listen 132 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.720 to all of the EVPs that are in the book, 133 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:30.120 So that finally came together for me. But before that, 134 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.799 you know, I'm really late to the game. I didn't 135 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.159 start investigating it until twenty thirteen, and I really didn't 136 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:42.320 know how to go about it. So I joined a 137 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:45.279 team and they trained me. I knew I wanted my 138 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.320 own team, but you know, I didn't know what to do. 139 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:53.360 I didn't know about equipment. I didn't know about locations. 140 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:56.240 I didn't know about any of that stuff. And I 141 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:02.919 still am learning. But first team trained me, and I 142 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.720 found out really fast that I was fascinated with audio 143 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:12.679 and I liked the spirit Box where you know, there's 144 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:16.960 a lot of investigators that hated My co founder hates it, 145 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:21.480 cannot stand it. He's like, oh please, and just wait 146 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:23.360 till I leave the room before you turn that thing on. 147 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.799 And I think a lot of people feel that way 148 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:32.399 because it's just noisy, loud, and you know, it's irritating. 149 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:38.840 But I liked it, and for some reason, I could 150 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:43.720 find some of the voices easier, Like when you're listening 151 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:45.399 to the spirit Box, it was easier for me to 152 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:49.159 pick up on some of the voices. I don't know 153 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:53.720 why Sean is my co founder. He's a skeptic, so 154 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:57.440 that was his thing. He's the best debunker that I've 155 00:09:57.440 --> 00:10:03.320 ever met. He's such a good debunker and a skeptic. 156 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.480 But also he's been doing it long enough and he's 157 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:14.120 seen enough that he can't explain everything, So you know, 158 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:20.519 you get to that and having to try to explain, Okay, 159 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.960 that shadow, that really was a shadow. And if I 160 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:28.879 remember him telling the story about the old hospital, he 161 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:32.440 had taken a group, some of our group on the 162 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:36.399 public hunt, down the hallway and we were lights out, 163 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:42.919 and he had taken I think three of them down 164 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.399 the hallway. We had about seven or eight, and then 165 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:49.519 he realized that they were a little bit farther behind 166 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:52.759 him than he thought. So he was down the hall 167 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.720 by himself and he looked in front of him and 168 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.799 a shadow was in front of him. First he thought 169 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:06.000 it was his shadow until it started vibrating, and he 170 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:10.440 said that was the scariest thing because all of a 171 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:14.039 sudden he looked back. He was by himself, he looked 172 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:17.759 back at the shadow and it lipped down the hallway 173 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.879 into one of the patient rooms. So he's seen more 174 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:31.519 now and he can't claim complete skepticism. So that's a 175 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:32.759 good that's a fun thing. 176 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:36.799 I try and say I'm a skeptic, but I'm a 177 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:38.440 lot more open minded these days than I. 178 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:41.320 Used to be, And you kind of have to be 179 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:48.519 a skeptic, especially now and with all the AI coming out. Yeah, 180 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:52.240 you know, it's kind of hard to look at some things. 181 00:11:52.519 --> 00:11:56.080 And if you don't know the person really, if you 182 00:11:56.080 --> 00:12:00.679 don't really know that person, it's hard to say, oh, yeah, 183 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:04.799 that's paranormal, Oh yeah that's supernatural, that's definitely a ghost, 184 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:11.120 or it's harder now to figure out what's real and 185 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:11.480 what's not. 186 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.159 I'm more involved with the whole cryptid side of things, 187 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:19.480 and I can't explain what people are seeing. I can't 188 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:21.720 explain the things that I've seen. But at the same time, 189 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:26.200 it's like I see all these people posting up photos 190 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:28.360 of everything, and all I see is blurry photos. I 191 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:32.200 don't see what they think is there. And then I 192 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.120 get argued with sometimes by people because I don't see it. 193 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.879 The crypti photos I've seen, you know, like out in 194 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:44.240 the woods, I can't find what they're saying is there. 195 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:45.399 I can't find it. 196 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:51.639 But I saw something yesterday and I doubt they listened 197 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:53.399 to the show. But if they do, it's I don't 198 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:57.080 really care. They'd circled something and it says there was 199 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:00.360 something crawling behind them, and literally it was a I 200 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:02.440 could tell it looks just like a stump from a tree. 201 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:03.240 Mm. 202 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.200 And then they drew little eyeballs on it. I was like, 203 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:11.159 that's no, Like, yeah, it's like it's just a blurry 204 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:14.919 stump because your photos are blurry. Like if you guys 205 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.000 legitimately are seeing things and that's what they show up there, 206 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:19.720 don't argue with people and tell them that they can't 207 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:21.879 see what you're seeing, because maybe there's something wrong with what. 208 00:13:21.840 --> 00:13:31.000 You're seeing, right right, you know you're again they want 209 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:32.840 to blame it on AI jumping in. 210 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.000 They want to blame it on everyone else not being 211 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:38.639 open minded enough. But maybe there's something wrong with the 212 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:41.759 way you're my processes. I honestly believe they believe what 213 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:42.360 they're seeing. 214 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:47.759 Oh, you know, some people do. But what is it paradolia? Yeah? 215 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:51.799 And then there's also the audio. You think you hear 216 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.240 something and you don't. I can't think of that word, 217 00:13:55.200 --> 00:14:01.320 but I mean it's a real thing. Yeah, So you're 218 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:04.480 you're mostly cryptid then, right, for. 219 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:09.519 The most part, that is uh, paranormal for me is 220 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.559 not I don't want to sound like I'm interested in it, 221 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:19.360 but I feel like for that I kind of live 222 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:23.159 in it. So it's not different for me because I 223 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:27.000 deal with it all the time. So like the house 224 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:30.559 we live in, I feel like there's something here that's 225 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:34.559 been that way since we've moved in, so I don't 226 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:38.600 it's just an everyday thing here. Like I said, we 227 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:40.360 don't talk about it. We don't want to try to 228 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.240 give anything power. We just ignore it. 229 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:44.279 And that's the best thing. Today. 230 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:46.799 I've tried to banish whatever's here, and I don't know 231 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.200 if it's gone. I don't know if it's back. Every 232 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.039 once in a while, something weird happens and it could 233 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.600 be paranormal, or it could just be the house. Who knows. 234 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:53.679 Yeah, but. 235 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:57.080 We have kids and everything else, so I try not 236 00:14:57.120 --> 00:14:58.639 to talk about it a whole lot because then they 237 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:04.559 start getting creeped up by it. But I've also seen 238 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:10.159 some weird things before that are not normal, that are 239 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.039 very would be considered a cryptid. I don't necessarily even 240 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:15.320 believe in that either, but I know what I saw, 241 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:16.799 so that's kind of why I do what I do 242 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:19.919 because of what I saw eighteen years of. 243 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:26.919 You interesting, very interesting. I'm just now I'm really new 244 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:34.159 to the cryptid side, just because it's just I was 245 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:36.440 brought up around ghost stories and that kind of thing. 246 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:43.960 I had heard about Bigfoot, and I had never actually 247 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:49.080 heard about the one around where I live now. So 248 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:55.200 I'm in Tennessee, in Lincoln County, and i live in 249 00:15:55.240 --> 00:16:01.159 the town my dad is from. So he's from Flintville, Tennessee, 250 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:05.840 and that's fifteen miles from where I was born. Swore 251 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:08.399 when I was in high school that I'd never come 252 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.759 back here, never ever come back here and come back. 253 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:15.960 Every time someone says that they come right back, I've 254 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:17.480 said the same thing, and here I am. 255 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:22.200 Oh man, it gets you every time. Well, around this 256 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:27.559 little village, Flintville, there's a cryptid known as the Flintville Monster, 257 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:33.679 and it's like a white big Foot. And I was 258 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:36.679 talking to a buddy of mine, Bopp d All. He 259 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.759 lives just right down the road, like maybe twenty minutes 260 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:45.519 from me, but he was talking about this Flintville Monster. 261 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.759 And he's actually got a documentary coming out I think 262 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:56.000 next Friday, probably about the Flintville Monster. Started in the seventies, 263 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:03.120 nineteen seventies and it was more of a aggressive bigfoot. 264 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:08.759 And I put the question out to a couple of people, 265 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:17.160 So is it white because it's an older bigfoot or 266 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.839 is it like the yetdy? You know, is it something 267 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:29.599 like that or you know, nobody knows. Yeah, there's interesting 268 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:30.480 though to find out. 269 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.759 You hear that there's black ones, there's brown ones, there's 270 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:37.200 like tan ones, there's like amber colored ones. Some say 271 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.559 there's some of like red headed people, and some say 272 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:44.200 there's white and blond like wow, who knows? 273 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.559 Who knows? Right? And is it skunkpe isn't that like 274 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:49.400 a type of it? 275 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.720 Yep, that's a down in the Everglades they had the 276 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:55.880 skunk cape, which they claimed those were smaller, I believe, 277 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.640 and they were more rare, like a red headed, more 278 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.720 red colored. But you could smell them me a a 279 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:08.240 pungent smell like a skunk. Again, I've never personally seen 280 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:11.640 a big foot. Side don't like. I would like to 281 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.920 believe that there's something out there, but I'm also again 282 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.079 with the skeptical mind of if there is something out there, 283 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:18.720 how can we don't have proof of it? At this point, 284 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:20.960 everyone has a phone in their pocket and there's cameras 285 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.640 on houses and buildings. There's never been a body anywhere. 286 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.599 So for me logistically and like logically, it just doesn't 287 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:31.440 make sense because there's never been any definitive proof right right, 288 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:35.279 So as much as I want to believe, I'm still 289 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.240 on that side of I still have to have some 290 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:38.680 sort of proof to believe it. 291 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:41.880 I'm gonna have to have some proof too. I'm gonna 292 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:46.759 have to see it with my own eyes, and I 293 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:49.559 who knows it that will ever happen that I'm like 294 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:56.480 five miles from where this particular monster has been seen 295 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:04.000 over the years. Strange thing about it. Growing up, Dad 296 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:07.440 never talked about a Flintville monster ever. He talked about 297 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.680 a Flintville light that was around the railroad tracks. But 298 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:17.559 you know, there's several of those stories, like somebody gets 299 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:20.480 their head chopped off and they're walking down the tracks 300 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:25.519 looking for their head, And there's one from Cornersville, Tennessee. 301 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:28.720 Here in Flintville, and I'm sure you've probably heard of 302 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:31.640 others around the country that are like that. 303 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:34.039 Everyone has a story of a guy with a hook. 304 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:38.279 Everyone has the guy walking around looking for something down 305 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:41.519 Lover's Lane. Everyone has a Yeah, there's all these urban 306 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.440 legends baby Bridge. 307 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:48.599 Yeah, yeah, there's some of those and all kinds. 308 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.960 It makes you wonder though, like where they originated from. 309 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:58.079 Something had to influence the story. It had to, And 310 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:01.240 I don't know if it's just people nothing better to do, 311 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.079 so they just made up stuff, but then just kind 312 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:06.920 of trickled along. But if you look back, just back 313 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:11.799 to bigfoot stories, the Native Americans all over had stories 314 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.480 of large hairy men, like they've talked about them, and 315 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:20.160 they've got there's out west there's a like cave paintings 316 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:25.559 of them. So interesting, how do you explain that if 317 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.960 I didn't know there were cave paintings at them they 318 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.559 unless they're not real. But people claim that they've got 319 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.079 like this in the stones where they've carved things, and 320 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:39.480 people are saying they're bigfoot because they're bigger than what 321 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.359 other things look like. You've got like a deer and 322 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.119 then a buffalo and there's like something that looks like 323 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.240 a big foot in the background. But yeah, there's also 324 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.519 stuff that looks like aliens too, So who knows. Maybe 325 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.559 they're just people and they just didn't know how to draw. Yeah, 326 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:57.960 Like I said, that's the skeptic side of me is 327 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.960 like I I want to believe, but at the same time, 328 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.920 it's it's going to take more than just hearing it. 329 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:06.039 But I've talked to so many people that have had 330 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:10.880 experiences that it's hard to not think that they're seeing something. 331 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:14.039 You know, they almost have to be. And with so 332 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:21.839 many people that have seen a bigfoot or mothman or whatever, 333 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:24.319 they've had to see something. 334 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.640 There's something. And I've said this a few different times. 335 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.480 I believe that people are seeing something, but it doesn't 336 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:38.240 necessarily mean what they're seeing is what they think they're seeing. 337 00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:42.240 And I don't mean that to say that it's misidentification. 338 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:43.519 M m. 339 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.400 Maybe they're seeing something because that's what it wants them 340 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:48.039 to see. 341 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:50.160 It as Oh could very well be. 342 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:55.319 Yeah, I can't. I can't explain, like if it leaves 343 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:59.559 like a footprint behind or stuff like that. But what 344 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:01.720 if there's something out there that when we see it, 345 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:04.160 our mind only processes in a way that we can 346 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.279 understand it, So it unders it makes itself into a 347 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:10.319 form that we can understand, and that's just what it 348 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:11.240 ends up looking like. 349 00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:16.720 Right, that's a good take on it, and that very 350 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:17.279 well could be. 351 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:20.559 I don't know anything about anything. So I'm just a 352 00:22:20.559 --> 00:22:21.440 guy with a microphone. 353 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.200 But for I don't know, that's a pretty good take 354 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:32.079 on it, though. You know, even I got a great imagination. 355 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:35.960 So if you're telling me a story, I'm picturing it. 356 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.400 And it could be too. These people are going out 357 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:45.799 after watching a movie or a Bigfoot documentary or Mothman 358 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:51.920 documentary or whatever. They're watching bunny man, dog man. You know, 359 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:56.519 there's so many of them, I can't keep up. And 360 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.960 maybe it being in their head, the thinking about it, 361 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.160 and then something moves in the bushes. They take a picture. 362 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:09.279 Oh my god, it's dog man. You know, it could 363 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:09.920 very well be. 364 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:12.599 It's funny you mentioned dog man because that's what I saw. 365 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.119 I don't call it dog. 366 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:15.880 Man though, what do you call it? 367 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:21.920 Upright? Walking canine? Like it everyone just being a dog man? 368 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:25.279 Well yes, and no. Like it literally would look like 369 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:26.920 a dead dog in the road. And then it stood 370 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:28.440 up like a person and looked at me. I was 371 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.240 fifteen feet from it, and then it crouched down and 372 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:31.319 walked off on two feet. 373 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:33.160 Wow. 374 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.519 Me and another guy had seen it as much. Everyone's like, oh, 375 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:38.839 you saw a black bear. I was like, I wish 376 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:40.680 it was a bear. My life would be so much easier. 377 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:46.319 But I there's headlights shining on it from two different vehicles. 378 00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:48.759 I'm outside thinking it's a dead dog in the road. 379 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.480 It's not an air It had a long, bushy tail. 380 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:54.880 I know what a dog looks like. It looked like 381 00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:55.640 a black wolf. 382 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:57.039 Wow. 383 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:58.279 It it stood up like a person. 384 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:01.359 So oh wow. 385 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:04.119 And I don't believe in any of this stuff, but 386 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:04.920 I know what I saw. 387 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:10.119 But when that happened, did chills just take over? 388 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:14.599 No? I was, I was. I wasn't afraid. I was 389 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:18.559 just more like confusing, like what the hell's going on? 390 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:20.440 Like what is this thing doing? Like why is this 391 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.039 standing up? Yeah? I wasn't like running away. And now 392 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:26.799 the guy behind me, my coworker, was screaming at cussing 393 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:28.079 at me to get back in the vehicle. 394 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:32.240 But so he's the one that got the chill bumps. 395 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.559 He didn't ever want to talk about it after that, 396 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.640 and then I haven't seen him in years. This was 397 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:41.519 eighteen years ago. But he didn't want to talk about 398 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.799 it after that, and he said it was just a dog. 399 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:46.519 I need to shut up about it, and basically said, 400 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:48.279 I keep bringing it up. He's not going to talk 401 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:48.720