WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:29.359 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:38.520 the poll question? Why the stories told and left me behind? 4 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:41.240 In shadows where the. 5 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.240 Truth we find. 6 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:51.280 They built their tails on grafts and lines on theories 7 00:00:51.399 --> 00:01:01.439 they stake their designed put down here on this solid. 8 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.840 Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time 9 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:08.000 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm 10 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.680 your host is always George Hobbs. I hope this message 11 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:13.840 finds you well. Everybody had a great weekend. As we record, 12 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:17.840 it's Tuesday, March eighteenth, twenty twenty five. We have a 13 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.599 great guest standing by. His name is Brian and he'll 14 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.200 be joining us in just a moment. Before we do, 15 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:25.879 just two quick reminders. Number one, stop by the website. 16 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:29.120 So hello to like minded people in the chatroom at 17 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.319 the flat earthfiles dot com. Again, that's the flat Earthfiles 18 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.319 dot com. And if you would like to join the 19 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:41.280 podcast like Brian is today, please shoot us an email. 20 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:46.480 The address is fe filesguest at gmail dot com. Again, 21 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:51.480 it is fe filesguest at gmail dot com. As you 22 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.760 can tell, we've been trying to get back to two 23 00:01:53.879 --> 00:01:58.760 podcasts per week and we are booking now. As I 24 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:00.719 look at it, I think for the end of April, 25 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:03.599 the second half of April. So if you're interested, now's 26 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:07.200 the time. Send us an email Fie filesguest at gmail 27 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.840 dot com. So without any further ado, let's bring on 28 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:14.560 today's guest. Brian. Thank you so much for joining us 29 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:15.800 this morning. How are you. 30 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:20.879 I'm doing great, George, thank you really appreciate having me on. 31 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.439 Yeah, it's a pleasure to have you on. And before 32 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:26.000 we get started, please do take a moment or two 33 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:27.520 and introduce yourself to the audience. 34 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:33.360 Sure. So my name is Brian, like George said, just 35 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:37.680 an average guy. Live in uh the Midwest, so middle 36 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:40.800 of the middle of America, so we get hit with 37 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:44.879 all the weather. But I do enjoy all the seasons, 38 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:51.360 have a family, own a business or two. Just try 39 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:55.719 to be the best person I can be, as you know, 40 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:59.080 walking in this world that we're living in. It so 41 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:05.520 not a big self promoter, so I don't really talk 42 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.599 about myself a whole lot. So I guess that's all 43 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:09.319 I'm going to give you. 44 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:12.319 There you go. You know, being in the military for 45 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.360 a long time, I've lived in places like Hawaii where 46 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:18.680 you don't get the four seasons. And as spectacular as 47 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:20.719 Hawaii is, it never really felt like home. 48 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:21.719 You know. 49 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.000 I'm the type of person that has to have, you know, 50 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:27.840 the summer, then the fall, the winter. I really that's 51 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.840 just I think that has to do with the area 52 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.400 that we grow up in. Right, if you were born 53 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.800 and raised in Hawaii, that's probably what you would love 54 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.919 and expect. But for me, man, the four seasons, that's 55 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:39.599 important to me. 56 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:44.599 I agree one hundred percent. Look forward to the change, 57 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:48.159 and it gives you something to look forward to. One 58 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:51.319 time we were in Florida for Christmas and I just 59 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.240 hated it. It just didn't feel like Christmas, you know. 60 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:58.120 So yeah, that definitely has an effect on you. But 61 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.159 like you're saying, people that probably grow up in Florida, 62 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.280 you know, if they were up here during Christmas, they 63 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:06.360 made the opposite exactly. 64 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:09.120 That's a great point. So talk a little bit. You're 65 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.120 a busy guy, you own a few businesses. Where where 66 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.159 did your your critical thinking come from? And and was 67 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.319 it something that you've always had or was there a particular, 68 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:21.959 you know, something that you came across that made you 69 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:23.800 stop and think about these things. 70 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:29.720 I don't want to say I've always had a problem 71 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.000 with authority. That's probably the wrong way to describe it, 72 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:39.199 but I have always asked why, you know. When I 73 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.199 was a lot younger, I didn't get along with any 74 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:47.439 of my teachers, but that change as I matured. I 75 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.600 I think my my parents did a really good job 76 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:55.199 of just letting me ask questions and be curious and 77 00:04:56.000 --> 00:05:00.759 uh not try to control my every move. So that's 78 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:03.959 probably where it stems from. I mean, ultimately it sims 79 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.439 from God how we were made. And some people just 80 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:14.600 have certain gifts, and one of my spiritual gifts is discernment, 81 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:22.079 So I have a pretty good meter, I guess. For lies, 82 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:26.439 anyone can be fooled George, as you know, but when 83 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:31.680 something's not you know, doesn't smell right, so to speak, 84 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:35.560 I can I can usually notice pretty quickly. 85 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:44.319 Sorry. What's interesting to me is I think many of us, 86 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:49.160 at one point of our life, no matter if you're 87 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:53.000 a flat earther or just as they say, the normoust 88 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.800 of norms, have at one point, even for one minute 89 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:01.160 in our life, thought about helio centric and just kind 90 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:04.720 of just for a second at least. But this is 91 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:07.720 really wacky. This doesn't really make a lot of sense, 92 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:12.439 and you know, I've had that even in my childhood. 93 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.839 But I think it really speaks to the effort that 94 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:22.360 the controllers, if you will, put into this kind of 95 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:26.920 syop And I wonder what it is that separates the 96 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:32.360 people who investigate further from those who just kind of 97 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:33.560 go along with the narrative. 98 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:40.480 That's a really good question. Really has something to do 99 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:45.600 with personality traits and how people were raised. I think 100 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:50.680 a lot of stuff stems from childhood. You know, you see, 101 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.720 for instance, you'll see parents acting like their parents did 102 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:01.000 you know, abusive and things like that when because it 103 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:04.800 was learned. So environment is a lot of it. But 104 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.600 you know, they do a really good job. I wanted 105 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.439 to be an astronaut when I was little, So they 106 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:15.040 do a really good job grooming kids with shows and 107 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.720 you know, movies and you know books. You open up 108 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:21.600 any of the books and you see, you know, these 109 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:26.279 astronauts and stuff in the in the educational books. So 110 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:29.959 some of it's learned. I think some of it is innate, 111 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:34.839 some of it, you know, is environment. I some people 112 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:39.959 just follow directions and don't ask questions, and you know, 113 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:46.279 and some people they need more information before they you know, 114 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:49.160 before you put this in my body, I really need 115 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.920 to know where did it come from? You know, what 116 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:53.639 are they going to do things like that? 117 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.120 You know, I've heard stories of people in the military 118 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:02.120 who wanted to be astronauts. One of the initial things 119 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.959 they have to do is to take a they call it, 120 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:11.600 I forget the name of the test, but I believe 121 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:14.600 when you look through history, the people who are involved 122 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:19.759 in these mass operations, if you will, if you look 123 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:24.800 at Lee Harvey Oswald, if you look at Timothy McVeigh, 124 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.920 both of those guys were in the military, and I 125 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.080 think that these they I think they call them aptitude tests, 126 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:38.000 just a simple aptitude test, and I think the questions, 127 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:43.840 you know, may were created maybe in a gobels Berne style, 128 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:48.919 where if you know, this test is answered in a 129 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:55.759 certain fashion, then this person may be susceptible to certain 130 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.720 control traits, if you will, for lack of a better words, 131 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:03.039 And because at some point, when when in a lot 132 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:06.200 of people in the military pilots that they apply for 133 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.320 a NASSA, at some point they have to be and 134 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.799 I'm talking about the people at the top of the 135 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.080 food chain, they have to be able to discern who 136 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.080 can be controlled and who cannot. 137 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:23.840 Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. Some people 138 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:27.879 get so focused on the goal it's like just completing 139 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.799 the task, just making it to the next level. They 140 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:36.000 don't even look up to see what's actually happening. So yeah, 141 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:38.120 I mean, I don't know if you've ever taken any 142 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.600 of the personality tests, but there are you know, hundreds 143 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.919 of them on mind and you can take those and 144 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:45.559 then they give you a result at the end and 145 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:49.039 you're like, man, that that is me, you know, to 146 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.039 a tease some of them it's kind of scary. So 147 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:55.200 I agree with you one hundred percent. There are questions 148 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:58.960 where you can find out information about someone and what 149 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.799 you know they're going to question authority or if they're 150 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.600 just going to toe the line. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise 151 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:06.120 me at all. 152 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.360 So as a young child, you said you wanted to 153 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:12.919 be an astronaut, So that's with that being said, then 154 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.960 growing up you were all about the moon landing story. 155 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:19.240 I guess at what age were you when you did 156 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:20.519 you start to question that. 157 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.320 That's kind of funny, isn't it. You want to be 158 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:28.519 an astronaut when you're little. 159 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:32.600 But did we look up and that'd be cool. 160 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:38.039 Yeah, yeah, it would be cool. And I think a 161 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:42.720 couple of shows you've talked about the Challenger explosion. I mean, 162 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:44.919 I think I was in the third grade and I 163 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.440 remember sitting in the classroom and like you said, they 164 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:51.440 wheeled in the TV and everybody watched it, and you know, 165 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.720 it's a big buy, all the stuff with, you know, 166 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.080 and they had the teacher going up and it was 167 00:10:57.320 --> 00:10:59.320 really cool, and then all of a sudden it explodes. 168 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:03.159 And I think that probably eliminated a lot of people's 169 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.039 dreams of being an astronaut, right that they did for 170 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:11.720 that generation at least. So I don't know why you 171 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.879 want to be one, but it seems to be common 172 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:21.279 in childhood. But I do remember thinking it's not for 173 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:26.440 me anymore, and then I forget. I actually forgot. You've questioned, George. 174 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:28.799 At what point did you start to question the moon landing? 175 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:36.600 Oh, the moon landing. I had thought about that, and 176 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:42.799 I don't really understand the timing of it. It just 177 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:47.480 never seemed right to me, and I think I don't. 178 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:51.240 I don't think that my my mom per se believed 179 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:55.399 it either, but she never guided me, say you it 180 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:59.240 wasn't it wasn't real. But I remember saying, and a 181 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.480 lot of people don't. I don't believe that we actually 182 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:04.840 went to the moon. But if you do any any 183 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:11.759 any person with any kind of reasonable mind, just looks 184 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:17.240 at the lunar lotch Off, it was like, whoa, it 185 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:20.120 looks like a like a glitter toaster took off from 186 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:20.519 the moon. 187 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.000 You know, I mean, it's so poorly. 188 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:27.679 Done, you know what I mean. But it Yeah, if 189 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:31.519 you look into it at all, it's pretty obvious it's fake. 190 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:34.039 And in fact, that was one of the things I 191 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:37.840 wanted to talk to you about. I the Moon movie 192 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.000 came out. I don't remember the title of The Moon. 193 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:45.519 I think, yeah, flow me to the Moon. And I 194 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:49.919 was really curious how they were going to because I 195 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.480 remember one of the previews that it brought up a 196 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.759 Stanley Kubrick, and I was like that that piqued my interest. 197 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:59.279 So I was going to watch it when it came out, 198 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:02.759 and I was curious how they were going to twist it. 199 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:08.600 So in the movie they basically told you the whole truth, 200 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.399 how they faked it, why you know why they faked it, 201 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:15.919 and the whole progression. And then I don't want to 202 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.799 spoil it for anyone. But uh, and then and then 203 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.559 they just make a little twist at the very end, 204 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:28.039 and they make you think that the lie is the 205 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:31.000 truth and the truth is the lie. That's the best 206 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:31.600 way to put it. 207 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:34.679 Yeah, that's what they do. They invert everything. And that 208 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:37.120 was a movie. If I had to describe it in 209 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:40.399 one word, it would be gatekeeping. They would say, yeah, 210 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:43.200 we well, we had plans to to to kind of 211 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.279 you know, in case things went wrong. We had a 212 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.720 plan in place to to you know, shoot it in 213 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:51.759 a in a studio, but we didn't really have to. 214 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:53.960 And that's what that movie was. It was gatekeeping. And 215 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.440 like you said, it was inverting the truth, which is 216 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.240 what they do. That's why the Black and White, the 217 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:01.360 Freemasons have the checkered every thing is inverted. 218 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:07.279 Right, Yeah, that's one hundred percent. That's why when people 219 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.919 hear the story about a movie producer, you know who 220 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.519 who shot a movie and they recruited him to film 221 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.600 the moon Landing and you know, and now when someone 222 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:20.080 hears that, I was like, oh, yeah, I saw that 223 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.320 in the movie. They yeah, they did that as a backup, 224 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:27.080 just in case, which is the complete opposite of what happened. 225 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:32.200 And my question about the moon landing was, so the 226 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.879 first guy that gets out of shuttle and he's climbing 227 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:43.159 down the the ladder, right, that's right, Neil Armstrong? Right? 228 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:48.360 So who was out there filming them? And then and 229 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.519 then what happened to the guy that they left there 230 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.320 when they took off? You know what I mean? No 231 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.720 one ever thinks about. They just watch it and the 232 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:02.919 oh him, man, look he's going on the moon, but 233 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.559 no one thinks about how did they film that? 234 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:14.720 Yeah, And there's also a lot of gatekeeping articles out 235 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.840 there still to this day. The one that comes to 236 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:21.279 mind is the one from the Guardian. Why so many 237 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:24.799 people still think the moon landings were faked? And they 238 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:27.559 all blame it on Bill Casing because he wasn't the 239 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.080 first one who doubted the moonland He's just kind of 240 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.159 the first person who wrote a book and came public 241 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.039 with it. Because back in the seventies or whenever Bill 242 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:40.720 wrote his book, I don't recall when that was. I 243 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:44.039 think it was mid seventies. But back then it's not 244 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.360 like you could go on Amazon KDP and publish a 245 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.399 book like everybody can write a book now, like everybody 246 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:51.039 can write a song now because of the Internet. But 247 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:53.360 his book was the first one that kind of shined 248 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:57.440 a light on America's thirty billion dollars swindle, is what 249 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:03.879 he called it. And the story from The Guardian, you know, 250 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.320 talks about how it took four hundred thousand NASA employees 251 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.120 and contractors to put Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldron on 252 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:15.480 the moon, but it doesn't talk about things like compartmentalization. 253 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.679 Not every one of those employees, one person was in 254 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.240 there doing contracts, and you know, everybody had their own 255 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.759 individual job, just like the military, just like any large organization. 256 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:31.399 And it's just very interesting to me how many people 257 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:34.320 still believe to this day now. I looked at some stats. 258 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:36.799 I think back in July of nineteen sixty nine, over 259 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:39.480 ninety percent of the American population believe that we went 260 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:43.840 to the moon. Now it's somewhere between. It's depending on 261 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.440 what article you look at, it's right around fifty percent. 262 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:51.799 So my question is, why is it now today that 263 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:56.000 more and more people question the narrative. Are people finally 264 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.960 starting to wake up just for instance, And I know 265 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:01.720 these are two totally different things, but you know, over 266 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:04.920 ninety percent of people in July nineteen sixty nine, believe 267 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:07.599 that we went to the moon. If you'd go back 268 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.319 to March of twenty twenty, it's more like seventy five 269 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.079 percent of the people brought into the narrative, which meant 270 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:16.559 one out of every four people thought. I think there's 271 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:21.319 something a little strange about this. So do you think 272 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:23.680 it's a generational thing or is it simply that just 273 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.200 now we have the Internet and we're able to have 274 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:29.359 this type of conversation more freely. 275 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:35.720 For sure, the Internet plays a role, just because you 276 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.079 have so much information at your fingertips. Now, it's not 277 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:43.519 all true information, and you should definitely check the sources. 278 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:44.319 It's a great point. 279 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:50.359 But I also think that had they been going to 280 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:53.519 the moon back and forth my whole life, then yeah, 281 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:58.000 it would have been believable. But to never go back 282 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:00.400 and then to lie about it and say, yeah, we 283 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.039 lost the technology, I mean, could you imagine waking up 284 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:06.960 one day and they'd be like, yeah, we uh, we're 285 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:08.920 gonna have to go back to flip phones because we 286 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.839 lost the technology to make these new iPhones. Yeah, we 287 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.039 can't update them anymore or anything. So yeah, it was 288 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.359 just too painful of a process. To go back to 289 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.240 iPhones now, so uh, flip phones. It is ere buddy, 290 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.519 you know. I mean like they just taken some spools 291 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:31.519 and anyone would believe that should probably get their head examined. 292 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:36.559 Yeah, it is. And the example that you made there 293 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.599 with that astronaut, I forget his name, but he was 294 00:18:40.759 --> 00:18:44.559 just h He came to the forefront again just a 295 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.160 few days ago when that thing docked with the ISS 296 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:50.359 in the video looked like something out of call Ecovision 297 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:55.000 or like the original Nintendo Entertainment System. Uh, and he 298 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.200 was being mopped. Don Pettitt, that's his name. 299 00:18:58.839 --> 00:18:59.039 Yeah. 300 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:01.920 They showed video from like two days ago, something to 301 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.960 have to do with the ISS, and it was just 302 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:08.599 awful eighties technology. And that's I think the reason why 303 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.400 they do it. I think because they're all about mockery 304 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.559 and they want to see how many people actually believe 305 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:17.200 this nonsense, because the the video that was shot was 306 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:18.039 just ridiculous. 307 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:24.039 Yeah, it's it's it's all. It's all a movie just 308 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:26.880 to keep people entertained. That's what I think about it. 309 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:30.519 But but since I've been I work outside every day, 310 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:36.119 George and I have really paid attention to the sky 311 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.960 and the sun and the moon. And one thing that 312 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:44.720 I've never heard talked about, and they say, I don't 313 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:47.039 think I'm the only person that knows this, but I 314 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:51.039 definitely haven't heard it on your show is the phases 315 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.839 of the moon and how the moon moves. You can 316 00:19:54.920 --> 00:20:02.039 see the moon in the evening, and the best way 317 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:05.519 to describe the moon, like if you're just staring at it, 318 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.880 there's a quarter of the moon that usually is light 319 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:13.039 and the rest of it has these dark spots on it. 320 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:16.960 Right above the light part looks like, you know, kind 321 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:19.480 of like two fingers, like an arm reaching out with 322 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:25.480 two fingers. Typically at night, you'll see those two fingers 323 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.880 point about like a three o'clock if you're looking at 324 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:32.440 the face of your watch, those two fingers point to 325 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.160 the two and then that that quarter of the light 326 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:42.960 spot will be between three and six. Are you following me? Yeah, 327 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:48.640 hopefully that makes sense. Okay, So well, a lot of 328 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:54.079 times the moon will still be I'll get up and 329 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:59.559 you know, five, six, seven, and the sky will be 330 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.680 clear enough. It's rare, but it'll be clear enough where 331 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.720 you can still see the moon. Now, the moon's not 332 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:08.559 in the east, it's in the west now, and the 333 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:12.880 moon has made a quarter turn, like if you were 334 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:15.680 going to spin your watch a quarter. Now, those two 335 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:20.000 fingers are pointing down at six and the light spot 336 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:25.920 of the moon is in the sticks to nine area. 337 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:28.880 So it's done a quarter rotation clockwise, is what you're saying. 338 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:36.839 Correct. So at first I thought, well, we must see 339 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.359 the front, the front part of it, and now we 340 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:41.839 see the back of it. But but that isn't that 341 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:46.119 isn't the case. And I so the phases of the 342 00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:50.960 moon and how the moon moves and how it actually 343 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:56.839 I'm going to use the word rotate, but not in 344 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:02.680 a spinning motion, but like rotating like you twisted your watch. 345 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:09.240 I've never heard anyone talk about that. 346 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:12.720 That is interesting, and I should speak more to the 347 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:16.160 luminaries moving and us being stationary versus what they tell 348 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.359 us exactly. 349 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.799 Yeah. One which which also brings me to the solar 350 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:29.720 eclipse that happened last spring. I mean, I did get 351 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:36.319 a night on T one thousand, and I recorded the 352 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.799 h I was actually talking to my mom this morning 353 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.319 that morning, and I said, well, if there's gonna be 354 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:44.960 something they don't want us to see, they're gonna we're 355 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:48.079 to have more Kim trails than ever before, and my goodness, 356 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:48.720 they were out. 357 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:49.759 You. 358 00:22:50.079 --> 00:22:52.480 I couldn't believe all the kin trail that morning, and 359 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:57.079 it was ridiculous how how much flying was going around 360 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:01.359 polluting the sky. But regardless us, you could still see 361 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:07.759 the eclipse obviously. But I know it wasn't the moon 362 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:15.720 because the moon and the sun moved from uh left, 363 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:22.240 the right, and this thing whatever it was that covered 364 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:29.279 the eclipse, the sun was moving right to left and 365 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:34.720 from down to up, if that makes sense, instead of 366 00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:39.599 instead of if if it was the moon, they would 367 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:44.319 have met and it would have The moon always moves 368 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:52.440 from left or right, and it also moves up. It 369 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.839 doesn't go. It was the opposite direction that the moon 370 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.440 would move. So I know, I don't know what it was, George, 371 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.720 but I do know that south of it was not 372 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:06.039 the most Yeah. 373 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:08.359 Yeah, I've had I've heard people mention that as well, 374 00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.039 and it's very interesting. And I know one thing for 375 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:14.279 sure that it isn't what they tell us. The one 376 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:19.160 thing I remember, well, there were two things I remember. 377 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.759 Number one is what you mentioned at first. But the 378 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:30.039 other thing was it was interesting that the the path 379 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.480 that it took and it went through a bunch of 380 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.079 towns that all had the same name, Ninevah, which is 381 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:40.680 a prominent it's really prominently featured in the book of 382 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:46.079 Jonah and the Old Testament. That to me was interesting. 383 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:51.440 And it in Iraq and the town of Mosel, the 384 00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.720 northernmost town in Iraq, the name Nineveh is still used 385 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.359 for a portion of that city. So I think there 386 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:06.640 was something. You know, God intentionally creates these things. You 387 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.519 know what it is. I'm not really sure, but it 388 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:15.000 certainly isn't what you tell us. But I remember I 389 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.160 either said it on the podcast or I mentioned it 390 00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:22.799 on social media with the pictures that morning, because I 391 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.519 want to say, the eclipse didn't happen until like two 392 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:29.559 or three o'clock in the afternoon, and that morning, Yeah, 393 00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.480 and the night before we had never my wife and 394 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:34.720 I had never seen so many chemtrails. 395 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:39.799 Yeah, it wasn't it crazy? Yes? I mean, I mean 396 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:42.960 you see them every day, and anyone that thinks back, 397 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:46.000 and once in a while you'll see an airplane go 398 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:49.720 by and you'll see a little bit of white coming out, 399 00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:54.279 but it immediately dissipates, it doesn't stay. But then then 400 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:58.480 you'll see days where they're just making x'es and tic 401 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:03.799