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Speaker 2: to seven. Delighted to tell you those of you who
Speaker 2: were listening last night on Nightside, we spent a couple
Speaker 2: of hours last night talking about anti Semitic materials that
Speaker 2: have been circulated to the members of the Massachusetts Teachers Association.
Speaker 2: They lay one hundred and seventeen thousand teachers across the commonwealth,
Speaker 2: and we had Jeff Robbins and Sarah cob of the
Speaker 2: Antidefamation Gone. We had a lot of very interesting callers
Speaker 2: who were concerned, and the MTA, the mass Teachers Association
Speaker 2: today withdrew those materials, those course materials which many had
Speaker 2: alleged were inherently anti semitic, and if you saw them,
Speaker 2: I think most people reasonable and rational people would see
Speaker 2: that for what they were. So congratulations to all the
Speaker 2: folks were called in last night and joined the course.
Speaker 2: And I think that we made a little bit of
Speaker 2: an impact on that decision, and I'm very happy to
Speaker 2: announce that tonight. We may get to that a little
Speaker 2: bit later on. We have several topics we're going to
Speaker 2: get to. We have four topies coming up this how
Speaker 2: we're going to talk with Mike Nelson in just a
Speaker 2: moment about the massages of wildlife endangered species lists. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk about the ability to adopt a dog
Speaker 2: with no charge involved, going to talk with a fellow
Speaker 2: out of Northborough who's associated with the group called proudly
Speaker 2: called the Dull Men's Club, and to talk with Chris Lisinski,
Speaker 2: state House news reporter about the protests at White Stadium today.
Speaker 2: And then we will talk with Josh Kraft Kennedy for
Speaker 2: Mayor of Boston, who participated in that demonstration opposing the
Speaker 2: demolition and the the destruction of White Stadium as well
Speaker 2: as about one hundred and forty five trees to make
Speaker 2: way for parking over there for a for a soccer stadium.
Speaker 2: And we'll talk about the closing the temporary closing estuary
Speaker 2: of the JFK Presidential Library for a few hours yesterday,
Speaker 2: was back open and operating today, thank goodness. But we're
Speaker 2: going to start it off first with Mike Nelson. Mike
Speaker 2: is mass Wildlifes invertebrate zoologist, and he brings word to
Speaker 2: us tonight that twenty two species, not just the animal species,
Speaker 2: animal and plant species were added this year, as it
Speaker 2: is as it's done every couple of years to the
Speaker 2: Massachusetts Endangered Species last Mike, thanks very much for taking
Speaker 2: the time to join us tonight. These are plants and
Speaker 2: animals probably that many of us might not have heard of,
Speaker 2: but we don't want to see them to go extinct.
Speaker 2: How are you tonight? Welcome?
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much, glad to be here, and
Speaker 3: you're absolutely right. It's of course the rarest and sometimes
Speaker 3: that means the most obscure species in the state that
Speaker 3: end up on the State and Dangered Species list. But
Speaker 3: we don't want to lose them from the state or
Speaker 3: even worse, have them go extinct entirely. So that's the
Speaker 3: main purpose of the Masters and Danger Species Act.
Speaker 2: Let me get one one clarification here, so you are
Speaker 2: making a determination. We'll go through some of these that
Speaker 2: the eastern red bats and the gigs abrout hoary bats
Speaker 2: and silver haired bats. They are our three species, as
Speaker 2: well as I guess a couple of types of bees,
Speaker 2: the golden bullom moth and the Akkadian hairstreak butterfly. When
Speaker 2: you say they're growing, they're going extinct or they're on
Speaker 2: the endangered species list in Massachusetts. Could they be flourishing
Speaker 2: elsewhere or the fact that they're in trouble here are
Speaker 2: these species that are sort of endemic to our region
Speaker 2: of the country in the first place.
Speaker 3: Well, depending on the species, that could be either of
Speaker 3: those things. So there's of course the Federal Endangered Species
Speaker 3: Act that was an act in nineteen seventy three, but
Speaker 3: in addition to that here in Massachusetts, we have our
Speaker 3: own Endangered Species Act that was an acted in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety and all federally listed species are also by statute
Speaker 3: on the Massachusetts list. But we have the ability in Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: and we have since nineteen ninety designated additional species that
Speaker 3: might not be federally listed, and the Massachusetts statute specifically
Speaker 3: looks at the status of the species in Massachusetts with
Speaker 3: the goal of not losing them from the state. Now
Speaker 3: that being said, in protecting species by various means in Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: it contributes to the regional and global conservation of these species.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk first of all, how how difficult
Speaker 2: is it? I mean all of us you know, see,
Speaker 2: you know birds, blue jays and things that all of
Speaker 2: us are familiar with. And we know that there are
Speaker 2: squirrels around, and pigeons and coyotes and all of that.
Speaker 2: How difficult is it to track the continued existence or
Speaker 2: the viability of again, some of these species that probably
Speaker 2: most of us don't know very little, know very little
Speaker 2: about again, an eastern red bat. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: what an eastern red bat looks like our silver haired
Speaker 2: bat's So how tough is how tough is this task
Speaker 2: that that you folks have assumed.
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's very difficult, But most of us do
Speaker 3: it because we enjoy the work. We enjoy a challenge.
Speaker 3: And it's not just the Massachusetts Natural Herigine Dangerous Species
Speaker 3: Program and the messages to the beneficiaries and wildlife alone.
Speaker 3: Although we're leading the charge to speak as the state
Speaker 3: agency with charged with conserving dangerous species. In Massachusetts. We
Speaker 3: have cooperators all over the state and that ranges from
Speaker 3: obviously universities where there's a lot of expertise on some
Speaker 3: of these species and on both plants and animals statewide,
Speaker 3: but also there's in Massachusetts we have a I guess
Speaker 3: relatively small relative to the population, but a thriving community
Speaker 3: of amateur naturalists. So people that not only enjoy being outside,
Speaker 3: but enjoy paying attention to plants and animals right down
Speaker 3: to the species level, and enjoy looking for the VARs
Speaker 3: species and reporting them on For example, probably the most
Speaker 3: popular online community for doing that next to Massachusetts, but
Speaker 3: across the country, and you know outside the country now
Speaker 3: is eye Naturalists. So there's all these people out there,
Speaker 3: no small number of them who are just interested in
Speaker 3: not just the common species. So we have a lot
Speaker 3: of collaborators, volunteers, and it all comes together and we
Speaker 3: somehow managed to keep a reasonable tab on the conservation
Speaker 3: status of most of the species in the state. And
Speaker 3: when I say most, I say that because certainly when
Speaker 3: people think of animals, the vertebrate animals you know, the birds,
Speaker 3: the mammals, the reptiles, amphibean fish, but Also, I'm called
Speaker 3: invertebrate zoologists because that's my specialty, although I do a
Speaker 3: lot of other things. At mass Wildlife, I have a
Speaker 3: one of a few people there with expertise in insects
Speaker 3: and other invert animals, and then of course the botanists
Speaker 3: who work with the plants. So those are the main
Speaker 3: groups you pay attention to, you know. Obviously people don't
Speaker 3: get into other groups of things that are even more obscure, like,
Speaker 3: for example, mushrooms and fungi. There's just not the expertise
Speaker 3: out there to do what we do with those.
Speaker 2: Okay, so real quick question if I could, and we're
Speaker 2: kind of running out of time, but I think this
Speaker 2: is a fascinating subject and topic. So let's assume you say, okay,
Speaker 2: there's this bad this red bat, or this hoary bad
Speaker 2: or this silver haired bat. I'm focused on those. I
Speaker 2: know that there we mentioned some of the others, A
Speaker 2: couple of types of bees, and a moth and a butterfly.
Speaker 2: Do you get to the point where you say, look,
Speaker 2: we're down to like, you know, fifty of these and
Speaker 2: some how we have to capture a few of them
Speaker 2: so that they can they can regenerate the species. Are
Speaker 2: you simply looking and saying, Okay, they were fifty last
Speaker 2: year and now they're down to twenty two and you know,
Speaker 2: there's not much we can do.
Speaker 3: Well, it depends there's the resources there to do what
Speaker 3: you're describing, which would be basically captive breeding. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: something that's done in a number of state that's done,
Speaker 3: for example in Rhode Island, in New Hampshire, now as
Speaker 3: much in Massachusetts, where the New England cottontail would be
Speaker 3: one example of a man I can think of it.
Speaker 3: It's done with. That's sort of the last ditches.
Speaker 2: They answered, Yeah, okay, when you say the New England cottontail,
Speaker 2: you're talking about a bunny rabbit. You're talking about a snake.
Speaker 3: Now I'm talking about there's actually two species of cottontail
Speaker 3: rather than Massachusetts, and this isn't very widely known, but
Speaker 3: there's a there's a very rare one that is actually
Speaker 3: doing better in Massachusetts and Rhode Island or New Hampshire,
Speaker 3: which is why it's actually not even state listed, although
Speaker 3: we do manage habitat for it here in Massachusetts. It's
Speaker 3: called the New England cotton tail and it's mostly in
Speaker 3: the southeastern part of the state in pine barrens and
Speaker 3: others shreby habitats.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think the snakes are called cotton mold. So
Speaker 2: when I heard the word, okay, good enough. Hey, look,
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the conversation. Mike. You know so much
Speaker 2: more about this than I do. Thank you for what
Speaker 2: you do, and let's keep in touch. Maybe we'll have
Speaker 2: you on some night and go into it for an
Speaker 2: hour and take phone calls from listeners. How about that.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's certainly a possibility. Dan.
Speaker 2: All right, Mike, appreciate it. Mike Nelson with the mass
Speaker 2: Wildlife Federation, and we really appreciate you taking the time
Speaker 2: to join us tonight. Thanks. Thanks again, Mike Nelson. When
Speaker 2: we come back and we talk about a great program
Speaker 2: where you can opt a dog and a lot of
Speaker 2: the fees will be waved, we'll give you that if
Speaker 2: you're looking for a companion animal. Nothing beats a dog.
Speaker 2: I'm a dog guy. We'll be back on Nightside right
Speaker 2: after this quick break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios.
Speaker 2: I'm WBZ News Radio. Well, if you're thinking about getting
Speaker 2: a dog, have we got a great deal for you
Speaker 2: with us as Jamie Garabedian, the Massachusetts Society for Protection
Speaker 2: of Cruelty to Animals Project manager and animal in the
Speaker 2: Animal Protection Division. Jamie, Welcome to Nightside. You have some
Speaker 2: really interesting news for our audience. How are you this evening?
Speaker 4: I'm good, How are you? Thanks for having me?
Speaker 2: Oh, our pleasure, Our pleasure. I'm a dog guy, love dogs,
Speaker 2: and you are doing a fee waved adoption event for
Speaker 2: adult dogs. But the definition of adult dogs is for
Speaker 2: dogs over the age of one year, so we're not
Speaker 2: talking about elderly dogs. We're talking about dogs who are
Speaker 2: adult dogs over a year. I think of adult dogs
Speaker 2: as being three or four because dog years seven seven
Speaker 2: adult years for every dog year, I'm thinking of a
Speaker 2: dog that's one or two, sort of being a preteen
Speaker 2: or a teen. But this sounds like a really great,
Speaker 2: great event. Tell us how folks can can get in
Speaker 2: line to meet some of the adoptees, the potential adoptees.
Speaker 2: And this is a fee waved events, so people can
Speaker 2: can get a great companion without spending a lot of money,
Speaker 2: which is fabulous. Tell us about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So the event goes until the twenty third.
Speaker 4: It takes place at all four of the MSPCA adoption centers,
Speaker 4: but we're also joined by our mass coalition shelter partners Berkshire,
Speaker 4: Our Humane Society, Bay Pass Humane Society, Wooster Animal Rescue League,
Speaker 4: Boston Animal Control and Thomas J. O'Connor Adoption Center and
Speaker 4: Animal Control. So all across the state, not just you
Speaker 4: know the eastern region where MSPCA is, but all across
Speaker 4: the state the event is going on. Each location has
Speaker 4: different open hours, so we do encourage people to go
Speaker 4: to their websites and check out how each location operates,
Speaker 4: or you can go to MSPCA dot org slash dogs
Speaker 4: and we have all of that information there for you
Speaker 4: as well. But it's simple. The adoption process remains the same.
Speaker 4: The only difference is we're removing the fee, so we're
Speaker 4: hoping to reduce some barriers and get people in the
Speaker 4: doors to find their new best friend. We have a
Speaker 4: lot of amazing dogs that are just waiting for home.
Speaker 2: Now folks can visit the adoptable dogs, these beautiful animals,
Speaker 2: these beautiful companion animals. Can they see them online as
Speaker 2: well as visit them in person. What's tell us about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, so on the MSPCA side of things. If you
Speaker 4: go to our website, eligible dogs are going to be
Speaker 4: marked with a star on their profile, so you can
Speaker 4: tell which dogs are part of the event. And then
Speaker 4: if you go to MSPCA dot org slash dogs, that'll
Speaker 4: direct you to the other locations with the other shelters
Speaker 4: that are participating as well to their website so you
Speaker 4: can see which dogs they have available and are eligible.
Speaker 4: Again at MSPCA, you can do them online or you
Speaker 4: can come into our shelters during open hours chat with
Speaker 4: a staff member and then would be happy to introduce
Speaker 4: you to the dogs that you're interested in.
Speaker 2: Now, how much under normal circumstances would it cost to
Speaker 2: do this or how much will people save who take
Speaker 2: advantage of this great opportunity this.
Speaker 4: Weekend peace range depending on age, but where this is
Speaker 4: all dogs over one year. The typical adoption fee at
Speaker 4: MSPCA and then again at the other locations are around
Speaker 4: the four hundred dollars mark four hundred and four to fifty,
Speaker 4: so again and you're it's quite a savings and the
Speaker 4: hope is that it reduced some barriers and just you know,
Speaker 4: encourages people to come in and meet some wonderful dogs
Speaker 4: that are waiting.
Speaker 5: For a home.
Speaker 2: Our daughter adopted from a from a dog an animal shelter. Uh.
Speaker 2: Just this beautiful corkie. Uh. He's a We think he's
Speaker 2: about two years maybe two and a half years old.
Speaker 2: His name is Mustard. Uh. And he is truly the
Speaker 2: love of the love of my life. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: these these animals that are there, they are just they're
Speaker 2: fur balls full of love. Uh. And and I know
Speaker 2: that a lot of people want to go by, you know,
Speaker 2: from a breeder, but these are wonderful dogs that that
Speaker 2: are available. I assume it's a fairly wide range of
Speaker 2: big dogs, medium sized dogs, small dogs. Uh. I. I
Speaker 2: assume between all these shelters there will be there will
Speaker 2: be plenty of matches people can find.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, based on breed, based on personality, Between all
Speaker 4: of the locations, there's something for everybody. And again, if
Speaker 4: you come in and you want to chat with a
Speaker 4: staff member, happy to talk you through what it is
Speaker 4: you're looking for, what kind of pet would best meet
Speaker 4: your lifestyle, and you know what kind of family member
Speaker 4: you're hoping to add, and happy to help you make
Speaker 4: the perfect match.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if you're living in an apartment. You're
Speaker 2: probably not looking to adopt a great Dane. I get that,
Speaker 2: you know, although it.
Speaker 4: Could be a couch potato bait day and you don't know.
Speaker 2: I understand. I don't want to eliminate, eliminate anyone. So
Speaker 2: when someone comes in and they've seen a dog, what
Speaker 2: do you do with this? Two or three people who
Speaker 2: have the your eye and the same dog? Do you
Speaker 2: you know, cut a deck of cards? Do you flip coins?
Speaker 2: What you know? Rock paper scissors? Shoot? What do you do?
Speaker 4: It is a first come, verserve situation. So if someone
Speaker 4: was already talking to a staff member and meeting that
Speaker 4: dog first and then interested in wanting to take the
Speaker 4: dog home, that person or that family would be, you know,
Speaker 4: the first in line to do so. It usually doesn't
Speaker 4: happen too often, so I wouldn't let that discourage anybody.
Speaker 4: If you see a dog that you're interested in, just
Speaker 4: encourage you to try to come in on the earlier
Speaker 4: side if you have your heart set on one of
Speaker 4: the open hours based on the location. But yeah, it
Speaker 4: usually doesn't turn out to be too much of an issue, No.
Speaker 2: Problem, no problem. So the event is already underway. Today's
Speaker 2: the nineteenth, So this started on Monday and.
Speaker 4: Then we already sent home almost sixty dogs, which is amazing.
Speaker 2: Great and so in how many what's what is the
Speaker 2: population here we're talking about between all of the different locations.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if the exact number that are eligible,
Speaker 4: but I.
Speaker 2: Would thought you said something.
Speaker 4: I thought you, yeah, that's the capet. That's I would
Speaker 4: say how many we all have in care, But how
Speaker 4: many are eligible for the event. I'm not totally sure
Speaker 4: on the number, but there's definitely so many left.
Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent. They all they have to do. The first
Speaker 2: step they have to take is just go to m
Speaker 2: s p c A dot org slash Events, slash Dog
Speaker 2: hyphen Adopter thon or you just find it at m
Speaker 2: s p c A dot org. I'm sure all the information.
Speaker 4: And h M s d A dot org slash Dogs
Speaker 4: is the easiest one and that'll bring you to all
Speaker 4: the information.
Speaker 2: Perfect, perfect, Okay, thanks for correcting me on that, Jamie.
Speaker 2: And uh, you're doing great work with big fans of
Speaker 2: the m s p c A and of course big
Speaker 2: fans of dogs. So uh, they make a huge difference
Speaker 2: in people's lives. If you've never owned a dog. They are.
Speaker 2: They they will change your They make the worst day
Speaker 2: you have tolerable, and they are so much fun. They
Speaker 2: they will change your lifestyle and your your existence. And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you I'm just I'm such a dog person.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: We had a King Cavalier Spaniel named Charlie for for
Speaker 2: ten years, has a has a Shorky which is a
Speaker 2: part Shitsu in part Yorkie named Willie, and Mustard the Corgi.
Speaker 2: So now we are a big extended dog family and
Speaker 2: we hope everyone will who doesn't have a dog will
Speaker 2: at least look at the website MSPCA dot org slash dogs.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jamie, appreciated very much. You're doing God's work.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Remember when you spell God backwards, it spells.
Speaker 5: Dog got dog, ye.
Speaker 2: Jamie. All right, here comes the news at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour. When we get back, when we talk
Speaker 2: to a really interesting dude. He may not think he's interesting,
Speaker 2: Vic Femi. He's with the Northboro doll Men's Club. This
Speaker 2: will be interesting right after They're all interesting tonight, right
Speaker 2: after the.
Speaker 5: News, it's night.
Speaker 1: Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, we've had many guests here on Nightside over the years,
Speaker 2: eighteen years and I've never had a gentleman from a
Speaker 2: group that is entitled the Dell Men's Club, but that's
Speaker 2: what we have right now. Vin Femia, he's the vice
Speaker 2: president of the Dell Men's Club. Vin, welcome to nightside.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 6: I'm doing fine, Dan, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. How long have you been vice president? Is
Speaker 2: the president term limited? Can you potentially ascend to the
Speaker 2: top spot anytime soon?
Speaker 6: That's not anything like that. But the president is actually
Speaker 6: the founder of the local chapter of the Dull Men's Club,
Speaker 6: and he's been in that role for eleven years. He's
Speaker 6: just unavailable tonight, so I might have been raised to
Speaker 6: the realm of vice president just in the last couple
Speaker 6: of days to do that. In fact, this is an
Speaker 6: international organization and the man who started it won't take
Speaker 6: the title of president because he says that's too haughty,
Speaker 6: claims that he's the vice president of the international Adull
Speaker 6: Men's Club.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you might be the vice president pro tem
Speaker 2: or something like that tonight, but thank you very much
Speaker 2: for sitting in. Now. What's the most exciting thing that
Speaker 2: the Dell Men's Club does during the course of the year.
Speaker 6: Well, okay, First of all, we have a meeting every week,
Speaker 6: and this is a group of retired men. We'll get
Speaker 6: together once a week for an hour to talk about whatever.
Speaker 6: We share experiences. We talk about current news and current events.
Speaker 6: But with the exception of two topics, we do not
Speaker 6: allow our group to talk about religion or serious politics
Speaker 6: because we'd like to stay friendly.
Speaker 2: Leave that tonight's side. We'll handle that for you guys.
Speaker 6: Okay, I know I was just listening to your discussions
Speaker 6: with people about Elon Musk, but let's not get into
Speaker 6: that because no.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we don't. We don't want to
Speaker 2: stir up any trouble here. So now, this club, I
Speaker 2: know is based in Northborough, but you have members from
Speaker 2: several surrounding communities.
Speaker 5: Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 6: There are actually at least three dull men's clubs in Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: Ours is pretty popular because I think the topics seem
Speaker 6: to interest people, and you know that people invite other
Speaker 6: folks and folks from other towns. Our Senior Center where
Speaker 6: the meetings are held, is a vibrant community and there's
Speaker 6: a lot going on there and it just sort of
Speaker 6: feeds off the Senior Center and people being invited by
Speaker 6: other folks and everything. I want to go back to
Speaker 6: the question you asked though. During the year we do
Speaker 6: a number of different things. We go on field trips.
Speaker 6: We've gone to like the New Land Patriots Hall of
Speaker 6: Fame and Museum. We've gone to the Military American Heritage
Speaker 6: Military Museum in Hudson. And we're in the process of
Speaker 6: arranging a flight for the group of those of us
Speaker 6: who are veterans to fly down to Washington, d C.
Speaker 6: For just a day trip for a tour of the
Speaker 6: different monuments and things like that.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, great, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: And we also contribute to the community, like every couple
Speaker 6: of months we contribute to the local food bank food
Speaker 6: pantry that supplies food to needy families. Sure, and I
Speaker 6: hope I'm answering your question anyway.
Speaker 2: No, no, you're giving me a sense of it. And
Speaker 2: again I know that the name of the club is
Speaker 2: the one that draws the attention to matter of fact,
Speaker 2: I read the article out of the Worcester TNG. Sarah
Speaker 2: Barnacle used to work with us at WBZ here. Well,
Speaker 2: we're now currently in Medford, so I know Sarah very well.
Speaker 2: She wrote a great piece. Tells me that it was
Speaker 2: founded the local chapter eleven years ago. And you've been
Speaker 2: in existence and the membership has been pretty stable. Are
Speaker 2: you Are you growing every year by a few members.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we are actually, and of course since these are retired,
Speaker 6: then we lose a couple of members every once in
Speaker 6: a while too, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, Like we have a initiation process where
Speaker 6: somebody who comes in who's new, we give them five minutes,
Speaker 6: so just tell us about their background, you know, what
Speaker 6: where they grew up, what jobs they had, and things
Speaker 6: like that. So it is growing, and we've got our president.
Speaker 6: Estimates we've got a group of about sixty total in
Speaker 6: the organization and our meetings usually have twenty five to
Speaker 6: thirty people.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. It'd be great if we could get
Speaker 2: voted turnout that much. If you don't know, a month
Speaker 2: on a monthly I don't want to get in politics here,
Speaker 2: but if you if you do that on a monthly basis,
Speaker 2: that's that's a good backbone for the club. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of clubs, rotaries and Lions clubs and Elks clubs.
Speaker 2: Is this you mentioned that there's three chapters in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Are there other chapters around the country or is this
Speaker 2: endemic to Massachusetts.
Speaker 6: Now, like I said before, it's an international organization that
Speaker 6: was started by a man in England.
Speaker 2: Oh correct, okay, let I should have caught that when
Speaker 2: you mentioned it. I was focused the probably my next question,
Speaker 2: so it's.
Speaker 6: Easy to understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's international. Okay. Do you ever get a member
Speaker 2: from another country who happens to be in the Northborough area.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that you know this says some you know
Speaker 2: cross over here. It must be kind of exciting when
Speaker 2: you have someone, let us say, from England or Australia
Speaker 2: or whoever the clubs are elsewhere. Have you ever had
Speaker 2: a foreign member sit in for one of the sessions?
Speaker 6: In fact, every year we have a barbecue that's hosted
Speaker 6: by one of the Dall Men's Clubs in Massachusetts for
Speaker 6: the for all the clubs in Massachusetts, and at one
Speaker 6: of them a few years ago, the founder followed by
Speaker 6: the name of Gordon Klick attended and in fact, we
Speaker 6: had a very interesting conversation with him at maybe a
Speaker 6: dull men level, interesting conversation about one of our road
Speaker 6: trips that we had just had, and he told us
Speaker 6: about what he said was the first bus tour that
Speaker 6: they ever went on the bus. Drove up, the bus driver,
Speaker 6: get out. He walked them around the bus, showed them
Speaker 6: how much air was in the tires. Let them get
Speaker 6: on the bus, let them get off the bus, and
Speaker 6: that was the bus tour.
Speaker 2: Well, you know something you got to take. You got
Speaker 2: to think, take things slowly. I mean, there's no sense
Speaker 2: of getting on a bus the first time and going
Speaker 2: cross country once that all of us find out. It's
Speaker 2: one life is one step at a time, and if
Speaker 2: you're careful with your steps, it might not be the
Speaker 2: most exciting life, but it probably is a life that
Speaker 2: that is fulfilling, nonetheless. And it looks to me I
Speaker 2: looked at the pictures in the TNG here I could
Speaker 2: tell from the expressions on the fellow's faces that they
Speaker 2: that they enjoy themselves. When you go to the center, okay,
Speaker 2: for for your you meet how often again, help once
Speaker 2: a month or is it more.
Speaker 5: Often once a week?
Speaker 2: Every wedd once a week? Okay? So and you meet
Speaker 2: fifty two weeks a year, do you take a little
Speaker 2: break in the summertime just to kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: calm down a little bit.
Speaker 6: Now, the meeting always takes place, and whoever can make
Speaker 6: it makes it, and whoever can't, you know, they'll come
Speaker 6: maybe the next time. So yes, it's two weeks.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, okay, And I assume that you might
Speaker 2: have to adjust your schedule if there's something more exciting
Speaker 2: and competition. Let us say, if it falls on the
Speaker 2: fourth of July or on Christmas. I assume you might
Speaker 2: have the meeting a couple of days before, a couple
Speaker 2: of days after. I'm just guessing.
Speaker 6: Actually, that's a very good point because this year the
Speaker 6: meetings are usually on Wednesday, and this year Christmas and
Speaker 6: New Year's were on Wednesday, so we did skip those
Speaker 6: two weeks. So you are right about that.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a no. Look, I certainly, I certainly can
Speaker 2: understand that. Let me ask you something, vic are you
Speaker 2: you're a local author and you're described as by my
Speaker 2: friend Sarah Barnacle local author, a certified dell man. Is
Speaker 2: that a member you call yourself? It's a dub men's club,
Speaker 2: so you accept the moniker of it being a dull man. Correct.
Speaker 6: I guess it's sort of a mixed blessing kind of thing.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I was lucky enough to have three books
Speaker 6: that I've written and be published one is about the
Speaker 6: Red Sox and two about the New England Patriots. And
Speaker 6: I've done some talks about those kinds of things.
Speaker 2: And what era did you write about the Red Sox
Speaker 2: if I could ask.
Speaker 6: Well, back in two it was back in two thousand
Speaker 6: and three and two thousand and four, and I wrote
Speaker 6: about why they had never won for so many years
Speaker 6: and then what happened in two thousand and four to
Speaker 6: change things. And you know, I donated half of the
Speaker 6: proceeds for this to the ALS Association, the Blu Garage disease,
Speaker 6: people who treat families that have or worked with families
Speaker 6: rather lugaryag's disease.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And you know, I've done these talks at the doll
Speaker 6: Men's Club and at the Senior Center and so on,
Speaker 6: and we've had other speakers come in as well to
Speaker 6: talk about different top of types of things. In fact,
Speaker 6: it was an extended meeting. We had Harvey Leonard come
Speaker 6: in a few weeks ago to just talk about the
Speaker 6: storms that we had ten.
Speaker 2: Years ago, great great meteorologist. Okay, so I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna run one question by you, gonna run some names
Speaker 2: by you. Here. I don't know how old, Joe, but
Speaker 2: I'm assuming that probably you you're a baby boomer. Is
Speaker 2: that fair to say?
Speaker 6: That's correct?
Speaker 2: Okay, what do the following names have in common? Sammy White,
Speaker 2: Pete Daily, Leo Kylie, and Billy Consolo all.
Speaker 6: Were former Red Sox players. Sammy White was a catcher,
Speaker 6: Billy Consolo was a maybe a utility infielder. I forgot
Speaker 6: the other two names, but they were all for me.
Speaker 2: Daily, Pete Daily.
Speaker 6: Pete Dailey doesn't ring a bell. To be honest, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Daily was was Tammy White's backup.
Speaker 6: And Leo Kyley, boy, the name is familiar. John Kylie
Speaker 6: used to be the organist.
Speaker 2: Of course, write a different spelling. Leo Kyley no relation,
Speaker 2: he always went. When you refer to a left handed
Speaker 2: pitcher in those days, you always have to use the
Speaker 2: adjective he's a crafty left handed pitcher.
Speaker 6: I know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: They were all crafty right hand Yeah, no, there were
Speaker 2: no crafty right handers. Also, one of my closest friends
Speaker 2: passed away at the ripe age of ninety ninety one,
Speaker 2: Ted Lepsio. So yeah, you know, I'm a big Red
Speaker 2: Sox and baseball guy as well, and of course everyone
Speaker 2: in New England's now a football guy. Well look, yeah,
Speaker 2: I hope I didn't stir anybody's heart too quickly when
Speaker 2: I mentioned Leo Kylie and Sammy White and Pete Day
Speaker 2: and Billy Consolo and Ted Lepsio. But I wanted to
Speaker 2: just take the take the temperature in the room up
Speaker 2: a little bit. Okay, thank you so much, Vic. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed chatting with you. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 6: Okay, yep, thanks a lot, Dan.
Speaker 2: And if folks want to join the club, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ask crazy questions. Do you have a website where they
Speaker 2: can go or how do they do? They just show
Speaker 2: up at the meeting sit the Senior Center. What do
Speaker 2: they do?
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, there is a website. They can
Speaker 6: go to www dot Dollman's Club dot com all one
Speaker 6: word for doll Men's Club. And yes, the other part
Speaker 6: of your question if they just want to show up.
Speaker 6: The meetings are Wednesdays at ten o'clock. And as I say,
Speaker 6: any topic is open except for those two about religion
Speaker 6: and serious politics.
Speaker 2: And and let me just give you a little tip
Speaker 2: when you give the website, don't need the www. Anymore,
Speaker 2: just doll Men's Club dot Com. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 2: That www. They used it for a while, but that's
Speaker 2: that's a little antiquated, Okay.
Speaker 6: The members of the club, so it works out with.
Speaker 2: No they the members of the club are experienced, they're
Speaker 2: not antiquated. Thanks Vig. Enjoyed the conversation very much. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much, have a great one. Good night. Can
Speaker 2: you see Sarah Barnacle say hi for me?
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, good I love you too.
Speaker 2: All right, by byeh That was fun and we get back.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about an issue in controversy which
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about next hour two and that
Speaker 2: is the fate of Boston's White Stadium. Chris Lisinski, state
Speaker 2: House News reporter for the State House News, is coming
Speaker 2: up right after the break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All Right with us now is State House News Reporter
Speaker 2: Chris Lisinski. Chris, appreciate you taking the time. You had
Speaker 2: a busy day today. I believe that you were over
Speaker 2: at a frigid Franklin park covering the demonstration which is
Speaker 2: trying to stop the demolition of Boston's White Stadium. Looked
Speaker 2: like it was a pretty good sized crowd there today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, a few dozen folks turned out for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an interesting case because I guess the
Speaker 2: demolition has started, even though this is scheduled for I
Speaker 2: guess area coord trials sometime next month.
Speaker 5: It does indeed look like that. Granted, the demolition work
Speaker 5: that we're seeing does appear to be preliminary. Some trees,
Speaker 5: and you know, those of us who are on site
Speaker 5: saw crews working on one of the grand stands at
Speaker 5: the stadium. This is a grand stand that has been
Speaker 5: damaged for years by fire and was probably always going
Speaker 5: to be replaced whatever direction the project goes. But still
Speaker 5: there is work underway, as you noted, about a month
Speaker 5: before a trial is set to begin in a lawsuit
Speaker 5: challenging this project.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm assuming that there must have been some
Speaker 2: sort of a request for a temporary restraining order that
Speaker 2: was denied. Obviously, the two elements of a temporary restraining
Speaker 2: order are that you have to show that there's irreparable damage.
Speaker 2: I think demolition fit into that category pretty easily, But
Speaker 2: you also have to show a greater likelihood that you
Speaker 2: would prevail on the merits. Have you covered this story
Speaker 2: over the last few weeks so you could confirm for
Speaker 2: me that there was an effort to stop this, but
Speaker 2: that request for restraining order was not allowed.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I haven't covered it as much as some of
Speaker 5: my other colleagues in the press, but I do believe
Speaker 5: you're right that the court battle has certainly been going
Speaker 5: on for some time. It's not a brand new court battle,
Speaker 5: so there was certainly a chance for a judge to
Speaker 5: intervene at some point before we got to this phase,
Speaker 5: and instead we have a trial scheduled for next month.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is interesting because I'm told and I again
Speaker 2: if I'm not asking you to make any sort of
Speaker 2: a commentary here you're a reporter, but that a lot
Speaker 2: of trees are apparently going to be taken down to
Speaker 2: make way for I guess some other aspects of things
Speaker 2: that might surround a new White stadium. And told us
Speaker 2: about one hundred and forty five trees that are in jeopardy,
Speaker 2: and I think some of that work might be underway
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 5: It seems like some of the trees are starting to
Speaker 5: come down. That is one of these central complaints that
Speaker 5: opponents of this project are raising is the cutting down
Speaker 5: of these trees. That being said, the response from city
Speaker 5: Hall is that once the project is fully complete, there
Speaker 5: will actually be even more trees than when they started.
Speaker 5: There are plans to install some new trees and actually
Speaker 5: add about an acre of green space once we get
Speaker 5: to the other end of this controversial process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's controversial. It's also expensive. I guess the
Speaker 2: price tag at this point looks that it's going to
Speaker 2: be about one hundred million dollars. As you understand, is
Speaker 2: that all in you know, for the effort that is
Speaker 2: that from soup to.
Speaker 5: Nuts that would be That would be about the city's
Speaker 5: contribution to this. A lot of the work under the
Speaker 5: agreement would be funded by Boston Unity Soccer Partners, the
Speaker 5: private group hoping to bring a pro women's soccer team
Speaker 5: to a new white stadium. I think the latest estimation
Speaker 5: is that the city's share would be about ninety one
Speaker 5: million dollars altogether.
Speaker 2: Okay, so those contracts tend to roove up a little bit.
Speaker 2: What is the what if this is a public private partnership,
Speaker 2: what are the private folks contributing? What's the Have you
Speaker 2: seen an estimate of the overall cost for this to
Speaker 2: go from from where we are now to actually completion.
Speaker 5: Oh, great question. I do think it is roughly fifty fifty.
Speaker 5: I could be wrong about that, but I'm sure that
Speaker 5: it's by you know, at the very least. I would
Speaker 5: expect that the private investors are matching, if not exceeding,
Speaker 5: what the city is expected to pay here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that it's become an issue in
Speaker 2: the mayoral race. And Josh Craft, who will join us
Speaker 2: after the nine o'clock news and we'll hear from him,
Speaker 2: but he was out there with these demonstrators today. I
Speaker 2: guess the one thing that you can comment on without
Speaker 2: getting into the politics of it is it was chili
Speaker 2: out there today.
Speaker 5: Yes, I can confirm. But folks were bumbled up well, stars, gloves, hat,
Speaker 5: the whole nine yards. So it did not deter anyone
Speaker 5: from speech.
Speaker 2: And that is for sure dedicated protesters. That's great, Chris Lisinski,
Speaker 2: Thanks very much. If folks want to subscribe to the
Speaker 2: State House News Service, it's a great service. It's a
Speaker 2: digital it's a digital website. How can they get in
Speaker 2: touch with you guys and become subscribers because you really
Speaker 2: do some great work. Up there at the State House.
Speaker 2: The major TV stations are not spending nearly the amount
Speaker 2: of time that we spent up there when I was
Speaker 2: a TV reporter back in the twentieth last in the
Speaker 2: last century, in the twentieth century. How can folks get
Speaker 2: in touch with you become subscribers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, State Housenews dot com. We've got a twenty one
Speaker 5: day trial for anyone, so he just head to our website.
Speaker 5: You can sign up right there. And Dan, we always
Speaker 5: appreciate getting a plug.
Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you, I'm a big fan and
Speaker 2: we'd love to have you on or we follow it
Speaker 2: closely and we'll have you on more often than any
Speaker 2: of the other contributors. They're welcome as well. Chris, thanks
Speaker 2: very much for what you do. It feels a very
Speaker 2: important need we have to keep an eye at all
Speaker 2: times on these politicians on Beacon Ill. Thanks Chris, I
Speaker 2: appreciate it very much.
Speaker 5: My pleasure.
Speaker 2: Then talk to you soon when we get back on
Speaker 2: to talk with Boston Merriw candidate Josh Kraft about that
Speaker 2: very issue that we talked with Chris about, and that
Speaker 2: is the demolition of White Stadium. And what's my question frankly,
Speaker 2: is what's the rush. We'll see what Josh Craft has
Speaker 2: to say on the other side of the nine o'clock news.
Speaker 2: Stay with us, everybody,