WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:11.199 A lot of them of reado last cells and in 2 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:22.199 the divisional loss. This is the show. Oh right, everybody 3 00:00:22.199 --> 00:00:27.000 walk up there one book show. And this Saturday, March eighth, 4 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:32.439 I hope everybody is having a fantastic time, fantastic weekend, 5 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:36.119 the beginning of a weekend, we are going to discuss 6 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:41.520 America first s make America first again? America First. I 7 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:50.799 found policy, not as Donald Trump or his various mouthpieces 8 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.320 or mega think of it, but what would it really 9 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:56.119 look like? I think America first was was even a 10 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.000 term maybe I rand used, but it's definitely a uh, 11 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:07.120 the right perspective for a phone policy for America. It 12 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.680 shouldn't be the French phone policy. That should be French first. 13 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.400 So we want to look at what that would entail. 14 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:19.560 And today's show is sponsored by Troy Troy, Australian Troy 15 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:24.959 who's who's been such phenomenal supporter of the Iron Book Show. 16 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:27.599 And he's got a few questions just get me going, 17 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:30.959 but basically he's left it up to me. But but 18 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:35.640 he's asking what does it mean? How does one operationalize, 19 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:41.040 if you will, a self interested a self interested phone policy. 20 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.040 What does it imply in terms of the actions one 21 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:49.120 must take in terms of other world governments and aid 22 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.799 US AID, and particularly in the context of USAD. So 23 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:57.879 we are going to look at all of that and 24 00:01:58.280 --> 00:01:59.920 I will I will tell you what I think and 25 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:04.400 what I think the right kind of America first foreign 26 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:09.039 policy should be and how it should be oriented for 27 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.479 other countries. It's going to be slightly different. There's going 28 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.360 to be a different emphasis, a different focus to a 29 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:20.639 large extent, because there is a uniqueness to being a 30 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:24.240 country with the as rich as the United States is 31 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:28.800 and as powerful as the United States. We have the largest, 32 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.759 most powerful military force in human history, and that means 33 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:38.000 we can do things other countries can't, and that is significant. 34 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.919 Other countries might not be able to stand up for 35 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:45.719 their interests quite in quite the way that the United 36 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:48.479 States can, but the principles are going to be the same, 37 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.039 all right. So that is what we're going to be 38 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:56.800 talking about today. As always, the super Chat is open, 39 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:01.280 and I encourage you to ask questions only because that 40 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:03.919 is a way to support the show, which is amazing, 41 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.199 but also because it is a way for you to 42 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:14.000 ask questions. And this is a big topic I think 43 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.000 I'll be able to cover today, but a big topic 44 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:21.400 with lots of concrete applications. So what I'm really interested 45 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:23.560 in is a lot of questions around this topic or 46 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.080 a lot of questions about the concrete applications, a lot 47 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:27.919 of questions about what should we do with the X, 48 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:29.719 what should we do with Y? How would you treat this? 49 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:33.000 How would you treat that? Having you take all those questions, 50 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.400 it will help make sure that I kind of do 51 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:40.599 a thorough job in covering Eavy aspect of the topic. 52 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.199 And as I said, it's a big topic, there's a lot, 53 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.680 there's a lot to cover. And of course you can't 54 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:51.520 ask me about Gavin Newsom if you want liam, but 55 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:54.520 priority we'll be given to those who ask about the 56 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:59.800 topic we are talking about. And if you are on 57 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:04.719 a different platform like x or Twitter as it's called, 58 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:07.560 you can come over to YouTube and ask questions over there, 59 00:04:07.680 --> 00:04:12.599 So feel free to do that. All right, let's jump in. 60 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:19.160 So what does it mean to say that American's phon 61 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.160 policy should be self interested? And that is my position 62 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.639 and that is the objective's position. American's phone policy should 63 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:28.879 be for self interested? But what does that mean? What 64 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:35.240 constitutes this self interest of America as represented by its government. 65 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:40.000 For that, we have to ask the question of what 66 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:43.839 is the responsibility, what is the role, what is the 67 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:51.639 purpose of government? That is, what is government instituted to do? 68 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:55.199 And of course I think most of you know the 69 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.079 objectives to answer to that. The role of the government 70 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:01.399 is to protect the individual rights of Americans, of citizens 71 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:07.120 and residents within America. And you know, maybe that's more 72 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:10.439 expensive citizens, less expansive for residence, but generally is to 73 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:14.120 protect their lives and property of the people who live 74 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:18.560 in America. That is the job of government. That is 75 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:25.480 what a self interested government means. That's what American interests are. 76 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:32.480 From the perspective of the government. The government has no zero, zilch, 77 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:39.800 no responsibility in any way to tell you what your 78 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:44.319 interests are, to dictate to you what your interests are. 79 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:50.120 It should in no way hamper your ability to pursue 80 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.199 your values, as long as, of course, you are not 81 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:59.360 infringing on other people's rights and other people's freedoms. So 82 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.759 the job of them government is to secure freedom and 83 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:07.000 in farm policy for Americans, and in farm policy, that 84 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:11.199 is what the government is there to do to secure 85 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.879 the freedom of Americans. In other words, to secure the 86 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.680 ability of Americans to not have their rights violated, to 87 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:22.519 to live, I eat, they shouldn't be killed, and their 88 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:29.480 property should be protected. So what is that, you know, 89 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.759 how do we how do we apply this principle? What 90 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:37.360 does that actually mean? Notice, the US government's interests are 91 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:42.319 not to secure the freedoms of other people unless the 92 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:45.199 freedom of other people is necessary for the freedom of Americans. 93 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:48.759 And we can think maybe they're scenarios in which that's true. 94 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:51.600 The job of the government. US government is not to 95 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.759 bring democracy to the world. It's not to be the 96 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.439 world's policeman. It's not to cure every disease in the 97 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.439 world out there, even if it can. The job of 98 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:05.959 the US government is to protect the interests of the 99 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.360 American people, which means to protect the lives and property 100 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:14.160 of the American people. And that's what we have a 101 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:18.399 military for. And that's what we have a phone policy for. Now, 102 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:27.680 what does this imply, that is, what actions, what behaviors? 103 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:32.639 How would we treat foreign governments, for example, if we 104 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:36.480 took such a position, Well, I would say, and I've 105 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:39.800 said this in the past. I've covered this in past programs, 106 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:47.160 that the United States should have a strategy and a 107 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:49.079 phone policy strategy. I don't think the United States has 108 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:51.480 had a power phone policy strategy at least since World 109 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:54.360 War Two, and I'm skeptical where it had one even 110 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:57.800 before that. That's why it got kind of roped into 111 00:07:57.800 --> 00:07:59.680 World War two without expecting it got woped in the 112 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:03.079 World War One without expecting it. It's like the US 113 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.879 is reactive. It does not have an actual strategy. So 114 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:10.040 the United States should have a strategy. It should define 115 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:16.160 the threats to US lives and property. Is there anybody 116 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:20.199 who is a threat to invade the United States? If so, 117 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:25.360 who are they? Is there anybody who is likely to 118 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:31.160 kill Americans? For example? You know that these could be regimes, 119 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:40.159 It could be terrorists. Is anybody likely to in large 120 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:46.000 scale steal Americans stuff pirates for example on the high seas? 121 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:52.039 Are there regimes out there who are likely to support 122 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:56.399 the pirates, the terrorists, the countries that might invade the 123 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.879 United States? And of course invasion is not the only 124 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:05.159 thing today. Are there any countries that might launch missiles 125 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:09.360 into the United States, whether nuclear or regular? But are 126 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:12.159 there any countries out there that have the capacity and 127 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:20.399 are inclined to attack the United States physically? And you know, 128 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:23.039 I think you need to do an assessment of the world, 129 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.759 and you know, what is what is the likelihood that 130 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.200 any particular government would do any of these things? And 131 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:35.080 to do that, I would suggest basically thinking about the 132 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:41.960 world in terms of categorizing every country in the world 133 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:47.960 based on three, say three parameters or into three categories, 134 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:54.879 categorizing everybody into three categories one the good guys, friends 135 00:09:54.960 --> 00:10:01.840 or potential friends. And here you would categorized countries as 136 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:06.919 basically free countries. Countries that are basically have a respect 137 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.559 for rights, property rights, and otherwise. Countries that are not 138 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:18.720 do not you know, invade their neighbors, are not hostile 139 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:23.159 to their neighbors, have not engaged in military adventurism call it, 140 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:27.320 have not funded terrorist groups, have not funded pirates and 141 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:33.679 organized criminals. Yeah, countries like as Jennifer points out, Canada 142 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:41.120 or Western Europe, Israel, you know, in Australia, Thailand, I 143 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:44.639 don't know. You could come up with different countries, India, potentially, 144 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:46.399 you can come up with different countries around the world 145 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:50.840 who basically exhibit those characteristics and they're all not They're 146 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.879 not going to be perfect. We know that we're not perfect, 147 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:56.159 but certainly many of these countries are not going to 148 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:05.720 be perfect, but who are in the right direction, leaning 149 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:14.240 moving presently in the direction of liberty. Then a second 150 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:17.840 group of countries as a group of countries that is 151 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:26.120 not free, clearly not free. They are unfree countries. And 152 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:29.919 these countries that might have kings, or might have dictators, 153 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:34.679 or might have all kinds of different authoritarian regimes, but 154 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:38.840 they do not constitute a threat to the United States. 155 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:42.000 This could because they're too small, it could be because 156 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.879 you know, they're just not interested. They might constitute a 157 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:49.960 threat to their neighbors in a particular region, but as 158 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.200 of today, they have no ambitions towards the United States. 159 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:57.200 I mean, you could think of this as, I don't know, 160 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:01.559 Vietnam is an authoritarian that is not a threat to 161 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.200 the United States. You know, they're probably a lot most 162 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.759 of Africa or a lot of Africa authoritarian regimes, but 163 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:13.480 don't pose a threat to the United States. And so 164 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:20.320 these are not friends but not enemies. And then a 165 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:29.279 third category is regimes that are not free and potential 166 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:34.039 or real enemies of the United States. These are regimes 167 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:38.440 that are aggressive, that have the inclination or the potential 168 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.720 to attack the United States, or to disrupt ability of 169 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:47.360 the United States to trade or the ability of the 170 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:54.440 United States to pursue its interest in the world. You know, 171 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:59.080 so certainly countries like right now, countries like Iran and Russia, 172 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:03.600 North Korea, which keeps threatening the United States with its 173 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:08.360 ballistic missiles, you'd have to think, and you'd have to 174 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.039 figure out if China qualifies or not. But maybe China 175 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:14.440 at least certainly potentially they have nukes and and and 176 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.720 they can certainly reach the United States, and they have 177 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.720 threatened interests of the United States. But whether they actually 178 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:23.399 are a risked to the lives and property of Americans. 179 00:13:23.639 --> 00:13:25.399 That that's the kind of analysis you would have to do. 180 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.279 And that's kind of thinking you'd have to do. From 181 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:31.440 the perspective of a phone policy, you'd have to You know, 182 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:34.360 the people in charge have a lot more information about 183 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:38.159 Chinese's intention than I do. They are not a lot 184 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.799 of countries like this, By the way, there might be others. 185 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.600 I don't know, Yemen because they have the houties and 186 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:49.519 the uties have obviously attacked US shipping. You've got terrorist 187 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.679 organizations all over the world, and then you've got governments 188 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:56.840 who support the terrorist organizations, so isis L Kaida and 189 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:01.559 in many of their offshoots, and in that you'd have 190 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:04.080 to say, well, is Qatar and the enemy of the 191 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:08.679 United States, given that they support these groups, they house 192 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:14.320 these groups fromases is housed in Qatar. You know Syria, 193 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:19.840 Syria houses these groups, and Syria's in the midst of change. 194 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.720 Is an enemy? Is a not enemy? Clearly, it's not 195 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.919 a free country. You'd have to evaluate. You know, Afghanistan, 196 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.399 you know Pakistan. Pakistan is an interesting case that you'd 197 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.320 have to really think about. And it's a nuclear powers 198 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:37.519 it has nukes and potentially could fall into the hands 199 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.960 of Islamists, maybe already supports Islamists. Again, you'd have to 200 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:45.159 do the intelligence and figure out who's who. And then 201 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:51.200 generally I would say I would say this the first group, 202 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:56.320 the group of friends, should be declared as such. I 203 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.600 think that is a group that you have full diplomatic 204 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:02.840 relations with, You cooperate on stuff, You have treaties. You 205 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:11.159 might even have a u n of free countries, and 206 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:15.639 you work together on issues that were late or maybe 207 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.960 even have. You could even imagine a certain defense treaties 208 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:22.360 or all kinds of other arrangements between free countries that 209 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.919 would be pursuing america self interest to have those agreements, 210 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:31.639 because there's an advantage of having you know, other people 211 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:35.720 scanning the world for enemies and and helping us if 212 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:43.879 we do get in trouble. The second group, you know, 213 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:48.639 I do not believe that one should have diplomatic relations 214 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.240 with UH. You know, it doesn't mean when it's hostile 215 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:56.960 towards and suddenly in terms of trade, trade should be 216 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:00.960 completely open with such countries and there should be no 217 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:04.559 restrictions and trade or movement. But for example, American businesses 218 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.799 should come to understand that if you do business in 219 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.399 these countries, the American government cannot guarantee your safety and 220 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.519 these regimes and not regimes that could be trusted, and 221 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.159 your property could be confiscated, and depending on the circumstances, 222 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.399 there is a real possibility the United States government will 223 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.120 not come and protect it. Because you have been warned 224 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:27.679 these are dangerous countries. Don't go in and work with them. 225 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:35.080 They are not free. That means something that's a designation 226 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.120 that has significance, and it has meaning, and you should 227 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:42.120 expect from your own people and understanding of what that 228 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.639 means and how that you know what that implies, and 229 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:48.440 that they should behave accordingly, They should be careful when 230 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:51.919 traveling and engaging and doing business with countries like that. 231 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:58.960 When Freeman says, you are don't go to Russia. Not 232 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:03.360 going to Russia, don't worry. But you know, I have 233 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.759 been to Russia, which most of my critics cannot say. 234 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.519 And I've been to Ukraine, which most of my critics 235 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:16.400 cannot say. So that's the second category. The third category 236 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:23.039 I think there it really depends. Let me just give 237 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.079 you a couple of examples of the second category that 238 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.640 I think is meaningful. So, for example, Cuba. Cuba, in 239 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.680 my view, is in the second category. Cuban does not 240 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.759 pose a threat to America. It is not going to 241 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:41.920 invade Florida. I mean, it did during the Cuban missile crisis, 242 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:47.960 but that's gone. And you know, there's some reason to 243 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.200 believe that they're working with the Chinese, and you'd have 244 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.240 to get intelligence on that and everything. But Cuba, quak Cuba, 245 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.400 independent of China and Russia, is not a threat to 246 00:17:55.400 --> 00:18:01.880 the United States, and therefore, you know, we should not 247 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:04.720 have an embargo on it. We should allow Americans to 248 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:08.359 trade with Cuba, even though we should discoverage it, and 249 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:12.119 we should again tell them you engage with Cuba at 250 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:17.559 your own risk. The same thing is true of Venezuela. 251 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:20.359 As much as I hate Venezuela and the regime there, 252 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.759 and I mean don't hate Venezuela, I hate the regime 253 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:26.519 of Venezuela, They're not a threat to the United States. Now, again, 254 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.160 there's an argument to be made, and I'm open to it. 255 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:32.599 And this is the kind of debate you would have 256 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:37.440 in PHM policy. If Venezuela is being used by organizations 257 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:42.680 like Risbela to train fighters who might one day then 258 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:46.480 engage in a battle with the United States or be 259 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:57.039 destroying US interests overseas, then maybe it may be of 260 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:02.519 Venezuela because it is a base for such terror organizations. 261 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:08.079 Becomes in the enemy of potential enemy category. So again, 262 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:11.160 you have to really know the concretes, You have to 263 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:14.119 know what's going on. You have to have proper intelligence 264 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:24.240 and and really figure it out and have a policy. Now, 265 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:28.319 what is the third category, the third category? I'd say 266 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:30.920 you could even the third category you would divide into two. 267 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:35.519 There are enemies, people who are in a sense at 268 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:39.480 war with the United States, right now, you know, threatening 269 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:46.119 to launch missiles killing Americans overseas, doing things like that, 270 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:51.680 and I think that they are you know, probably three 271 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.680 countries like that in the world you're on in North 272 00:19:54.759 --> 00:20:02.839 Korea and Russia that are clearly engaged in acts of violence. 273 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:07.400 Now Russia, you know, Ukraine is not America. Russia is 274 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.720 not directly engaged in violence against America, though it has 275 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:13.680 taken a few Americans hostage and and so on. But 276 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:15.680 you know, they shouldn't have been there to begin with, 277 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:20.599 is my view at this point. So with the gout, 278 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:26.640 Iran and North Korea, they are enemies. Now my view 279 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:31.720 is enemies need to be destroyed. I think Affghanistan was 280 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:35.640 in the same category. They need to be destroyed. They 281 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:39.799 shouldn't be tolerated, they need to be defeated. So my 282 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:42.559 view of Iran and certainly if it's possible that is 283 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:47.559 they don't have nukes, and you know it's not that hard. 284 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:51.599 Then you know, it's obvious that the United States should 285 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.680 take out the North Koreans and the Iranians. Now, the 286 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.000 North Koreans a little trickier because they have nukes, so 287 00:20:57.039 --> 00:20:58.599 you'd have to figure out how to do it without 288 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:00.400 allowing them to launch those nukes. I don't know if 289 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.680 it's possible. I'm assuming it is. Take him up, take 290 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:08.440 out that regime, unify the Korean peninsula, certainly take out Iran, 291 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:12.880 replace that regime. That would be an American self interest. 292 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.519 They are a threat to the lives and property of America, 293 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:19.319 a real threat, not a hypothetical, not a potential. They've 294 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:24.240 killed Americans, they say they will kill Americans. They're actively 295 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:30.519 developing weapons to kill Americans. They need to be stopped. 296 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:41.839 Stop cold. Russia is a potential enemy, but it has 297 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:48.480 not attack the United States or its allies entreaty. But 298 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:57.880 it has, through invading Ukraine, made clear their offensive imperialistic intentions, 299 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:02.160 and therefore there's certainly a potential enemy, real potential enemy 300 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.119 of the United States. I think, by the way, with 301 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:12.480 the first two, at the very least before you stop them, 302 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:15.079 at the very least, your self interest requires that you're 303 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:17.240 not trade with them. So those are countries that should 304 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:25.920 be involged completely. Russia is not a country you want 305 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:31.200 to go to war with because they have nukes, and 306 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:35.519 it is a country that poses a threat. So you 307 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:38.160 have to figure out ways in which to deal with Russia, 308 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.720 given the fact that it's a threat, but it is not. 309 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.960 You're not You're not going to go directly to war 310 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.200 with them. And I'd say the two things that should 311 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:56.519 be done with Russia, given its you know, engaging in war. 312 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:07.039 I think one is you should boycott it completely, no trade, 313 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:12.319 one hundred percent cut off from all trade with the 314 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:18.559 United States and its allies. And second, we should wholeheartedly 315 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:24.079 support those who fight against them, because the potential enemy, 316 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.200 to the extent that they can be weakened dramatically, they 317 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:30.759 will become less of an enemy. We know what they want. 318 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:35.519 They want to go after our allies. They want to 319 00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:38.319 go after people we have a defense treaty with. We 320 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.640 must stop them. Now. You know, in a different world 321 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:45.039 in which we were not members of NATO and which 322 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.000 Europe was responsible with the security of Europe, maybe it 323 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:52.559 would just be Europeans who would do this. But given 324 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:56.559 the world in which we live, absolutely legitimate to fully 325 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.519 arm the Ukrainians, not to put American troops on the ground, 326 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:05.359 but fully on the Ukrainians to do whatever they can 327 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:12.599 to degrade Russia's military capabilities. That is fully an America's interest. 328 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:19.880 And the same is to a Israel. Asrael as fighting 329 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.680 an enemy that the United States should be fighting, an 330 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:31.160 enemy of the United States, that is Islamic totalitarianism, Islamic Islamism. 331 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:37.480 And as such, we should support Israel in its military fights, 332 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:42.480 in its ability to destroy our enemies. Now, in this case, 333 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.599 given nine to eleven, given all the terrorism since nine 334 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.079 to eleven, we should destroy them ourselves. And going after 335 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.039 Iran would do a lot towards that. Going after Qatau 336 00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.160 would do a lot towards that, And it wouldn't cost 337 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.319 that much, and it might be actually cheaper of for 338 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.599 Americans to just get it done with that, to keep 339 00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:02.440 supporting Israel with ongoing endless wars. If America did it, 340 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.279 it would end Ramas wouldn't Existsbellah wouldn't exist because they 341 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:08.640 depend on support for places like you are in Qatar. 342 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.720 And if that goes away, and if America asserts itself, 343 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.920 there is no Ramas, there is no Risbela to worry about. 344 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.559 So a real self interested phone policy would have America 345 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:28.200 do it, annihilate its enemies, and then it wouldn't need 346 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:31.559 to support Israel. I do not believe the United States 347 00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:35.759 should give one dollar to Israel other than to fight 348 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.839 a common enemy. But if that fight is over, Israel 349 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:47.960 gets zero zilch nada, so uh, and then you get China, 350 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:54.599 which is as difficult to categorize. It is not engaged 351 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:58.519 in military action against the United States. It is not 352 00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:01.400 yet engaged in military act against any of the United 353 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:05.559 States allies. It is not yet invaded Taiwan, although it 354 00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:09.240 does threaten to do so. It has not invaded Japan 355 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.000 and it doesn't threaten. It is not invaded South Korea. 356 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:20.480 It's not stopped shipping from various countries of goods to 357 00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:24.720 the United States. It has not prevented US ships travel 358 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:29.680 from the US to various places in Asia. So it 359 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:31.440 is definitely a country in which I don't think we 360 00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:35.480 should have diplomatic relations. It's not a free country, but 361 00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:40.119 it's not a country I think we should embargo. It's 362 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.599 a country we should watch carefully. We should continue to 363 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:48.359 assess that when does it go from a potential enemy 364 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.839 to an actual enemy, And if it goes and becomes 365 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:56.839 an actual enemy, then it is completely appropriate to embargo 366 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:02.119 their goods and to they trade with them and to 367 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:09.640 start preparing for war. An invasion of Taiwan potentially could 368 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:13.200 be something that moved them from one category to the next. 369 00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:20.119 So again, what is the standard America's interest? What America's 370 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.640 interest the protection of American life and property, not American 371 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:26.519 interest in the sense of we want American corporations to 372 00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:31.200 rule the world, and therefore we're going to hamper the 373 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:36.319 ability of other countries to their businesses, to to trade, 374 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.759 not beef a production, or have some vision of how 375 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.319 the US economy should be structured in the future, and therefore, 376 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:49.039 you know, and try to manipulate through trade policy what 377 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.880 gets built in American what doesn't. Now, how do we 378 00:27:52.920 --> 00:28:00.599 protect the license property of Americans? Period? So uh, you know, 379 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:10.200 one of the questions Toy asks is what should America 380 00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:15.519 do about really just horrendous regimes around the world, like 381 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:20.319 iraqu Saddam Hussein. I don't know, like the genocide in 382 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:25.160 maybe in that's going on right now in Sudan, or 383 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:31.200 you know when the Hutis and the two D's slaughtered 384 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:34.640 each other and two million people died. Should American intervene? 385 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:40.240 Should it stop horrific regimes, the Kami rouge whatever from 386 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:44.440 doing what they do to the people, to their neighbors. 387 00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:51.319 And my answer to that is no, As brutal as 388 00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:56.279 that might be, you cannot expect and you shouldn't expect. 389 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:01.119 And we have no duty to sacrifice our lives and 390 00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:07.920 our treasure for the sake of somebody else's freedom. And again, 391 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.279 the only reason I think we should support Ukraine is 392 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:16.799 one it is tilting towards the West significantly, and two 393 00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:25.640 it faces a country that is a potential, real enemy 394 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:33.559 of the United States. So uh I Iraq, you know, 395 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:36.880 said almost have killed his own people left and right. 396 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.640 He was in war for eight years with Iran. I 397 00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:43.839 think the United State should have stayed out of it completely. 398 00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:48.319 Iraq was not funding terrorism against the United States. Iran was, 399 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.200 but Iraq wasn't. There was no self interested reason to 400 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:58.119 go to Iraq. There was no self interested reason for 401 00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:00.680