WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.399 Thursday Afternoon style ten minutes past the hour of two o'clock. 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:05.519 Hot day. It's been hot for a while, It's gonna 3 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:07.320 be hot for a bit. It's gonna be have a 4 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:10.439 little cool down this weekend. Maybe tempts in the eighties, 5 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:12.119 mid eighties, as we. 6 00:00:12.080 --> 00:00:16.399 Are inching closer and closer to fall. Happy Thursday to you, 7 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:18.440 and as it is every single day, it's going to 8 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:19.559 have you along for the Riots. 9 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:20.000 Spence check. 10 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:22.920 It's beyond the Mike, Porter Larson, beyond the glass today 11 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:26.160 producing the program. And we've got a lot to do. 12 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:29.079 Busy Thursday show, really good guest list, a lot going on. 13 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.600 From a local standpoint. RSL picked up a win last 14 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:36.159 night in League's Cup play, but it will not be 15 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.719 enough for them to advance to the knockout round. But 16 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:42.560 RSL unbeaten now and nine of their last ten matches. 17 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:45.560 They'll be back in action and MLS play coming up 18 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:48.439 on Sunday afternoon at four o'clock Mountain toime against the 19 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:53.079 New York Red Bulls. Made the signing a Victor Olatunji official. 20 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:55.600 We did see the debut of Iran Cruise, the new 21 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:58.759 designated player number nine, for about thirty minutes last night. 22 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.520 Didn't do much in limited action, but didn't need him 23 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.879 to do much as it was another Brian o'heita goal. 24 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.519 Brian o'heada with four goals in his last four games 25 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:12.680 after scoring one goal in like his previous eighty So 26 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.480 ourself continues to find their form for the stretch run 27 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:17.599 as we get ready for a little fallse soccer see 28 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:20.680 if they can advance to the MLS playoffs and maybe 29 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:21.359 make some noise. 30 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:22.599 So they played last night. 31 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:25.879 We are just over three weeks away, three weeks from 32 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:29.400 Saturday for opening Day in the world of college football 33 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:34.040 for the University of Utah, in addition to BYU and 34 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:38.239 Utah State Week zero prior to that, so college football 35 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:40.920 right around the corner. We have some new practice sound 36 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.959 media availability for Utah players and coaches. I would encourage 37 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.200 you to go to ESPN seven hundred sports dot com 38 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:52.159 for that. Coach wit and the wide receivers made available. 39 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:54.480 The positional group that we all probably have the most 40 00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:58.239 question marks about a young, unproven defensive line as well. 41 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:00.719 But as the old adage goes, you don't worry much 42 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.040 about a Kyle Whittingham or a Morgan Scalley defense and 43 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:04.840 that defense in front. 44 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:06.239 I'm sure we'll be ready to roll. 45 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:10.759 But if you're looking for some University of Utah practice 46 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:14.560 sound head on over to ESPN seven hundred sports dot 47 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:16.919 com and should time allow, maybe we'll bring some on 48 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.520 air today. But we have a lot to get to 49 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.520 on the program, a little preseason NFL action, so we 50 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:26.520 start to see some NFL football coming up this weekend 51 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:30.520 where Jeddar Sanders will be starting for the Cleveland. 52 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.840 Browns, a new home for Thomas yasmin former you. 53 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.840 He signed with the Chargers, so he got some NFL 54 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.240 football to get to on the program today as well. 55 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:45.280 A big week, actually big stretch now in the world 56 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:49.360 of professional golf, Round one of the FedEx Satan Jude 57 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.080 Championship is going on right now. Ak she Batiya with 58 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:55.400 a career low sixty two. Our guy went low today 59 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:57.599 and he is your leader in the clubhouse. 60 00:02:57.639 --> 00:02:58.240 This is a. 61 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:03.240 Massive, massive tournament for golfers who are looking to get 62 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:06.319 exemptions next year. The top fifty are fully exempt with 63 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.360 every single signature event and your top thirty golfers after 64 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:14.759 this tournament, we'll advance onto the BMW Championship TPC South 65 00:03:14.800 --> 00:03:17.400 win in Memphis, Tennessee. So it's a big, big stretch 66 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:19.879 in the world of golf and we are high speed 67 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:23.439 ahead to the Ryder Cup coming up in just. 68 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:23.919 A little bit. 69 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:27.240 Does not look like Tony Fena will be playing in 70 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:30.080 the Ryder Cup. One of my main hopes this year 71 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:33.080 is that we'd see Tony represent the US, as this 72 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:35.800 tournament is back on American soil, a tournament that really 73 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.879 for a generation or so now has been dominated by 74 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:39.479 the Euros. 75 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:41.680 So big stretch with the. 76 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:46.159 FedEx Saint You Championship going over to the BMW Championship, 77 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.319 a lot of players playing for their PGA Tour life 78 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:52.840 during the next few weeks. All right, we'll start things 79 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.360 off today with our guy, Chris cameronni Ck, typically a 80 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:57.360 Friday staple, but he's going to join us live in 81 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:58.680 studio today for an hour. 82 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:01.479 Chris will be in Dublin for Week zero. 83 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:04.680 He's going to be part of the Athletics college football coverage, 84 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.840 so we'll do some Utah football. We'll do some college 85 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.159 football and a little RSL with c K today on 86 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:13.639 the program. Brian Dunseeth joins us. Been a minute since 87 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:15.400 we've had Donny on the show today, but it'll be 88 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.439 fun to catch up with Brian. He has been busy 89 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:21.920 this summer on a number of different assignments soccer assignments, 90 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:25.920 both MLS and the national team stuff as well. 91 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:27.480 So we'll bring in Dunny today. 92 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.879 See our guy's doing Sam Brockhouse for Brouckouse Sports. We'll 93 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.160 do some football with Sam on the program today, Little 94 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.439 Sports Core with our friends from Handy and Handy as 95 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.399 we are wont to do on those Thursdays, and we 96 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.040 will go from there. So Chris Camaraddie, Brian dun Seth, 97 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.560 Sam Brockhouse, Little Sports Court on a Thursday afternoon, me 98 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.199 Spence check. Its all of you, the great listeners, and 99 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:52.360 that guy Porter Larson producing the program on a Thursday afternoon. 100 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.560 NFL preseason football. Do anything for it is? That's been 101 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:58.600 your beanie at all? Not really, but. 102 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:04.639 You know it's very case dependent, right. There are certain 103 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:09.199 storylines that will catch my attention during preseason, you know, 104 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:16.480 maybe certain roster position battles, but catch me watching like 105 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:17.879 a full preseason game. 106 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.720 No, not usually, Yeah, no, I'm with you. They have 107 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:27.160 truncated the preseason. It's a lot shorter than it used 108 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:29.600 to be. If nothing else, it's an excuse to watch 109 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:32.120 a little football. So we do have some NFL preseason football, 110 00:05:32.160 --> 00:05:35.160 but we are high speed ahead to college football. And 111 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:36.600 of course as you're home with the utes, we'll have 112 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:39.040 you covered. We want to let you know that all 113 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:41.639 of the practice sound, whether it's the new stuff that 114 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.399 we have or the stuff that's been you know, kind 115 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:45.279 of out there in the ethos. 116 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.600 ESPN seven hundred Sports dot Com is where you go. 117 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.680 All right, Football season is here, and the Utah ESPN 118 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.199 Radio Network is getting you ready with thirty one Days 119 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:56.680 of Football presented by Baskin Robbins. Tune in daily to 120 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.680 the best coverage for pro and college ball. It's the 121 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:02.959 thirty one Days of Football presented by Baskin Robbins on 122 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:08.879 ESPN seven hundred. All Right, it's rankings season, It's tiers season, 123 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:14.360 it's projection season, prognostication season. USA Today Coaches Poll came 124 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.240 out on Monday. As we've talked about, that's an unserious 125 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:22.519 endeavor and unserious exercise. Coming up on Monday of next week, 126 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:24.879 we will get the AP rankings, which at least for 127 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:28.759 the most part, consists of people that actually pay attention. 128 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.240 Hopefully, people that pay attention to do their jobs. 129 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.040 When it came to the coach's poll, BYU came into 130 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:37.040 twenty three, Utah came in technically at thirty, with the 131 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.079 others receiving votes. We'll see what happens when the AP 132 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:43.839 comes out coming up on Monday. But David Hale today 133 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.160 from ESPN dot com really good college football writer. 134 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.279 He tiered all one hundred. 135 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:51.079 And thirty six FBS teams, which must have been quite 136 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.319 quite a project and kind of went, you know, tier 137 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.920 by tier, named his own tiers. Tier one A a 138 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:01.279 great matchup for Week one and the championship game. He 139 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.560 has Ohio State and Texas as the two best teams 140 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.839 in college football. After that, Tier one B the rest 141 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:10.160 of the best three teams Georgia, Oregon, Penn State, and 142 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:13.759 as you scroll down playoff expectations, he has six teams there. 143 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:17.279 This is mostly SEC Big ten, with a little bit 144 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.560 of acc sprinkled in Alabama, Clemson, Miami, Michigan, notre name 145 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.519 in LSU Tier three. He entitled someone in the SEC 146 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:27.199 has to lose games, So he has six teams Florida, Oklahoma, 147 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.959 Old Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas A, and m Tier four. 148 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.319 Last year playoff surprises. Four teams Arizona State, Boise State, 149 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:39.439 Indiana SMU. Tier five so hot right now, four teams Illinois, Louisville, 150 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:40.040 Texas Tech. 151 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:43.000 And this is where we find the University of Utah. 152 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:47.000 So Bill has or David has this to say about 153 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.279 the Utes. Utah enters the season as the trendy pick 154 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.160 in the Big twelve thanks to some returning stars and 155 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:55.639 expectation that last year's bad luck has to turn and 156 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.399 finally open his season with someone other than the hollowed 157 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.959 out shell of cam Riise in a quarterback little little 158 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:04.279 harsh there. If luck kept Utah from the Big twelve 159 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:07.199 race last year, then luck should be on their side 160 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:07.680 this season. 161 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:09.240 Essentially kind of regressed in the mean. 162 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:11.560 We have to scroll all the way down Tier eight, 163 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:14.319 and he actually entitles this regression to the meaning quote 164 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.399 the bad kind. He has five teams including b Yu 165 00:08:17.480 --> 00:08:24.000 b YU, Duke, Missouri, Syracuse, Vanderbilt. Here's essentially his reasoning 166 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.399 is something that we've talked about and something that BYU 167 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:30.160 Athletic director Brian Santiagre talked about when he joined us 168 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:34.679 in Big twelve media day. Pretty Much every single bounce 169 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:37.320 that could have gone BYU's way went their way. They 170 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:39.879 were little cardiac kids last year, including here in Salt 171 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:42.320 Lake City, with a miraculous ending that led to BYU 172 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.480 getting that win. B YU tied or trailing in the 173 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.879 fourth quarter seven times last year, and in those seven 174 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.120 games they went six and one, and ultimately this where 175 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:54.759 this is where the conversation comes in in my estimation 176 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:59.600 about the quarterback situation in provo, because you know, you 177 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.519 hear a people including me, I've said this certainly referenced 178 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:05.720 the sat that Jake Rhetz Laugh was eleventh of the 179 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.159 Big twelve in QBR last year, and I felt BYU 180 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:12.120 won games last year not necessarily due to Jake. Jake 181 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:15.000 made some big time plays down the stretch and we 182 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:16.799 know that here in Saul Lake he did it against the. 183 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:17.840 University of Utah. 184 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:21.279 BYU's success last year was predicated on a stout defense, 185 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.279 a really good run game, and a lot of luck. 186 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.919 And if we're clear, you have to have luck if 187 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:29.080 you want to compete and win championships in sports. 188 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:29.720 You just have to. 189 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.559 Most of that luck involves health, and BYU was more 190 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.960 or less very healthy last year. They lost the Connor 191 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:39.159 pay kid for a while one of their better offensive linemen, 192 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.639 and every football team across the landscape of America will 193 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:47.159 lose players. But you just have to imagine that at 194 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:49.559 some point the pendulum is going to shift, and this 195 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:53.240 unbelievable stretch of bad luck that if we're honest, has 196 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.519 stretched about four or five years now for the University 197 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:59.480 of Utah just comes back down to where the regression 198 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.600 of the meaning takes place for the utes. Again, no 199 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:03.559 one's going to be healthy all year long when it 200 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:06.879 comes to just football teams across the landscape of the sport. 201 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:08.960 It's the nature of this game. 202 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.600 I hear people all the time say football is a 203 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.440 contact sport. No, no, it's not. It's a violent sport. 204 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:17.480 Basketball is a contact sport. Soccer, believe it or not, 205 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:21.919 is a contact sport. Football is a violent sport. And 206 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:25.799 that's why you cannot ever assume full health. But I mean, 207 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.080 my goodness, you have to assume better health for the 208 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:29.879 utes than we've seen over the past four or five 209 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:31.000 years now. 210 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:33.279 One of the interesting pieces of sound. 211 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.679 That again you can get on the website ESPN seven 212 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.360 hundred sports dot com. Coach Witt was asked about the 213 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.519 wide receivers and then the wide receivers were made available 214 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:49.159 to the media. You know, the question marks around this team. Luckily, 215 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.200 if you're a youth fan, there aren't a ton It's 216 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:54.080 a young defensive line. Of course, with Kianotanavas and now 217 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:58.399 wearing BYU Blue, you're going to see some new faces 218 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.080 and some new players in that positional group. But it's 219 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.080 just not something you ever worry about when it comes 220 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.559 to this coaching staff. And the first player the coach 221 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.759 wit reference when asked about the wide receivers was Tobias Merriweather, 222 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:11.159 who he talked about yesterday. 223 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.360 You know, six five, one ninety five. 224 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.240 He has the measurables in a way that the other 225 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:17.840 receivers just don't. 226 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:18.159 You know. 227 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:19.200 He looks a little bit. 228 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:22.120 Like Devon, like Devon Veley, and Devon obviously has been 229 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.720 able to find himself in the NFL with a nice 230 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.559 start to a pro career without the ability to put 231 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.360 out a bunch of tape in college because he didn't 232 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.600 have a quarterback that was healthy to kind of capitalize 233 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:34.879 on his natural gifts, and Tobias feels like he's a 234 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:35.519 little bit like that. 235 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:35.919 Now. 236 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:40.440 Most of these receivers, if not all the receivers are transfers, 237 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:44.720 but Coach Wit referenced Tobias. He was the first name 238 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:47.639 the coach Wit mentioned as far as how well he's 239 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:51.159 played in spring. Paul JJ Buchanan another name the coach 240 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:56.840 Wit referenced, So Tobias, Tobias Merriweather maybe wide receiver one. 241 00:11:57.639 --> 00:11:59.879 He was asked about it and he said, in his mind, 242 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.559 that's what he's shooting for. But it is a positional 243 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:04.840 group that we continue to talk about because there's so 244 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.720 many unknowns. There's Ryan Davis, who is a transfer from 245 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.120 New Mexico. Of course that's where Jason Beck was, and 246 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.360 Devin Dampier was Mississippi State transfer. 247 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:15.759 Creed Whittemore is also in the mix. 248 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.679 They talk a lot about Hunter Andrews, who's a tight 249 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:20.879 end that they could utilize in a bunch of different ways. 250 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:24.080 Nate Johnson, once upon a time at quarterback here transfers 251 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.080 comes back, will ultimately be a little bit of a 252 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:29.840 utility guy at offense, according to coach Wit. And then 253 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.120 remember what Kyle said to Sean and I had big 254 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.759 twelve media day Smith Snowden Lander Barton. Here's what coach 255 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:37.759 would have to say about them. Quote Smith Snowden is 256 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:40.840 looking good on offense. It's been a good addition for us, 257 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:42.960 and Lander Barton is doing some good things on offense. 258 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:45.759 So we've got a lot of options right now. It 259 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.480 just feels like we know what the quarterback is going 260 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:51.519 to be. Coach would also had some praise for way 261 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:55.200 Shawn Parker today, but ultimately it is that positional group 262 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:57.600 on the outside that could make or break this year 263 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.480 for the Utes. Because we talked about this during Rosstalk 264 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.320 with Sean today. A lot of the over unders a 265 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:04.960 shot is doing on a show as he's moved kind 266 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:07.279 of over to the offensive side of the football. The 267 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.519 lines he's setting would make Utah a top seven or 268 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:13.639 eight offensive team in the Big Twelve. Now that doesn't 269 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.519 sound awesome, but if you talk and be a top 270 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:19.279 seven or eight offensive team in the Big Twelve, they 271 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:21.639 will be right in the mix to compete for a 272 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.720 Big Twelve championship and advance on to an expanded CFP 273 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.559 for the first time in school history. And just like 274 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:30.399 everything else, all you want to do is to get 275 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.039 in the dance and then you've got a shot, and 276 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:34.799 that's all you want. Year and in year out. You 277 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:36.399 got a shot. That's all you want to hear. Okay, 278 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:38.440 you got a shot to get this thing done. I 279 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:41.840 continue to be a little bit skeptical only because there 280 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:44.200 are so many things about this team that we just 281 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:47.000 do not know. And if you've listened to this show 282 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:48.960 for years, first of all, thank you, as we're about 283 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.639 to turn six next week at our six year anniversary 284 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.279 will be next week here on the show. Every year 285 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.679 college football, I say the very same thing, observation not 286 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:02.559 conclusions three four weeks because fan bases they'll go crazy. 287 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.600 You know, if Utah goes to the Rose Bowl to 288 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.720 take on UCLA three weeks from Saturday and either loses 289 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:12.639 an ugly game or even wins like thirteen to ten, 290 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:15.120 I know what you guys are gonna do, because you 291 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:15.679 do it every year. 292 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:17.399 It's like, oh, here we go again. Okay, here we 293 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:17.879 go again. 294 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:20.279 If it's the end of the first quarter of the 295 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.960 cal Poly game and Utah's up like seven to three, 296 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:27.480 the panic will set in. Go to Laramie Porter Larsen Bowle, 297 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:30.120 as it is coined on this radio show, and you 298 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.399 come back with either a close win or a loss 299 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:36.720 against the Cowboys, we are going to lose our minds. Observation, 300 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:39.639 not conclusion. It's going to take a minute because this 301 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:42.120 new reality of college football, not just for Utah but 302 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:46.240 every other school is you're breaking in fifty sixty new players. 303 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.360 If you're Utah State, you are breaking in eighty new players. 304 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.639 It's just not realistic to expect most teams to come 305 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:54.639 out of the gates on fire when there's no more 306 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.639 continuity in college football the way there used to be. 307 00:14:58.320 --> 00:14:59.799 Chris Camaradni will be on the. 308 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:03.679 Row for the Athletic four Week zero of college football, 309 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:05.879 so we'll bring in Ck coming up on the other 310 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:07.600 side to do a little college football. We'll get his 311 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:10.840 thoughts on the new additions for RSL. I do have 312 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:15.480 an update once again. Last night checked out of the 313 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:21.320 RSL match they beat Carratiio or whatever from Liga MX 314 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:26.080 or MCHIS or whatever. Then afterwards once again attempted to 315 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.159 watch Happy Gilmore two and I might I might just 316 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.519 be out on it, man, because I gave it another 317 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:37.559 fifteen or twenty. They were playing against this weird golf 318 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.440 league that is supposed to make fun of live where 319 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.919 apparently they've clipped like a hip muscle so the other 320 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.559 other golfers can hit it far and the regular PGA 321 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:49.960 players can't. Scotti Scheffler knocked out a play and then 322 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:51.600 I just turned it off and I watched the rest 323 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:52.960 of the Billie Joel documentary. 324 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:57.360 Yeah, I don't blame you for doing so. Like I 325 00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:01.960 told you yesterday, I started it and and rolled my 326 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.799 eyes a few times and fell asleep again. You don't 327 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.600 have to expect too much. It is a silly flick, 328 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:13.240 but I was hoping for a little more out of 329 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.559 a show that a lot of a lot of folks 330 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.039 in the sports world, in the comedy scene have been 331 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:19.000 waiting for for a while. 332 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:24.240 Noted Adam Sandler, fan and golfer savant, Chris Camrodnie is 333 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:24.720 in studio. 334 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:27.519 Have you attempted to watch Happy Go More too? Seen it? 335 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:32.120 You watched the whole thing? Thoughts the vibes? I mean, 336 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:35.120 we live in a capitalistic society. A lot of people 337 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:39.159 got paid and had fun period period. I mean, I'll 338 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:42.240 never see it again. I don't know if I laughed. 339 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:44.000 To me. 340 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:47.080 The biggest bummer is and Sandler said this in one 341 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:50.159 of his rare interviews. Apparently, Carl Weathers was supposed to 342 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:54.159 have a prominent role as Chubbs, but Carl unfortunately passed 343 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:57.960 away last year indeed, so I think missing his piece 344 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:01.919 Chubbs to me was like as integral of apart to 345 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:05.519 Happy Gilmour is like even Sandler was, because so much 346 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:09.279 of his dialogue is what you repeat, you know, like 347 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.720 it's all in the hips, you know, just your home. Yeah, 348 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:16.319 so many of them exactly, I go to your happy place, 349 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.839 like you know, like they're they're sitting there at the 350 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.400 water Barry open and he said, Happy tells him if 351 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:26.400 I four pants like that, I have to kick my 352 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.599 own ass. It's just like the inner there there. Chemistry 353 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:34.759 was so electric. And now if if if if Carl 354 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:36.559 Weathers hadn't passed, I don't know if it would have 355 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.160 changed ultimately the way the movie was produced. 356 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:40.799 And how it came out. 357 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:44.519 But to me it was just a little too golfy like. 358 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.160 And I'm not not against your your kind, you know, 359 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.920 I'm glad that kind. Lee Trevino was was made another appearance, 360 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:53.279 which was which was cool. 361 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:57.200 My kind golf people don't define me as that. Now 362 00:17:57.799 --> 00:17:59.200 can't do what do. 363 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:01.640 You do more than any thing else recreationally outside of 364 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:06.480 work golf? Okay, But like the Chefler stuff was funny. 365 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.039 It was self aware, but then it was kind of like, 366 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.160 we're kind of I mean, like in the first one 367 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.119 it was Trevino. I'm trying to think who else they got. 368 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.200 They didn't get that many real golfers to be. 369 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.440 In No, no, no, I mean the cameos. They had 370 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:20.400 a ton this time around. 371 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.799 Yeah, and I get it, like it's part of the 372 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:27.119 zeitgeist of sports comedies and golf comedies obviously along with 373 00:18:27.160 --> 00:18:30.359 Caddy Shack. But yeah, I was a bummer man. You 374 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:32.720 could tell that they wrote that and film that in 375 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:33.839 maybe two weeks tops. 376 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:37.319 Yeah, and I think forty seven million people watched it, 377 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:40.880 which is a Netflix record. You know, we are in 378 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.359 this current moment in society where the you know, you know, 379 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:46.359 it's it's it's an. 380 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:49.119 Attention business, you know, That's what it is. 381 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:53.000 Like the revenue is generated right or wrong with just attention, 382 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:55.200 whether it's good or bad. That's why you see all 383 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.799 these people releasing just dumb, embarrassing videos online. 384 00:18:57.799 --> 00:18:59.279 They don't care, They just want you to watch because 385 00:18:59.279 --> 00:18:59.799 they get paid. 386 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:01.000 Is that what TikTok is? 387 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.079 You know, not familiar. 388 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:05.960 We'll have to expend quite frankly with the TikTok situation 389 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:09.039 Nate Nate loves himself some TikTok. I do have it 390 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:11.759 on my phone, but I'm not looking to add any 391 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:13.119 social media to my life. 392 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:14.680 I'm rarely on anything anyway. 393 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:16.960 You tell me it's not a very healthy habit. I 394 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.599 don't think it is. I mean, I feel like I've 395 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:23.400 been such a great example for you. You have, absolutely, Yeah, 396 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.720 I deleted it, all of it for the entire week. 397 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:29.759 I was out last week and it was wonderful. Yeah. 398 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:32.799 So have you experienced TikTok at all or you know 399 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:34.400 you on the planet. I don't understand it. 400 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.359 My cousin send it to me and sometimes it will 401 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:39.759 open up in my Safari app, and sometimes it won't. 402 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:42.519 So sometimes I have to lie to them. I'll just 403 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:46.079 write lol, pretending like I watched it. I don't want 404 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:48.559 to have to go through the rigamarole being like, hey dude, 405 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.200 it's not opening this time. Yes, can you send it 406 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:53.079 to me? No, We're just going to move on now. 407 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:54.200 That's the move all the time. 408 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:56.440 I have some people in my life who recently have 409 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.559 learned how to send Instagram videos. Oh yeah, and I 410 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.720 just you know, I hope it's not something serious because 411 00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:06.720 like you big Dave, Big Dave, who, by the way, 412 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:09.559 have you noticed he looks exactly like Shooter McGavin. 413 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.799 I mean if yes, it's so good. 414 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.039 If if Dave had I mean Christopher McDonald had the 415 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:16.880 curls a little bit, yeah, Dave, Dave doesn't have that, 416 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:19.440 but yes, yeah, it's striking image. Can we get David 417 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:20.079 gold jacket? 418 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.079 I would he actually so Initially there was a lot 419 00:20:24.119 --> 00:20:27.880 of pushback because when Happy Gilmore, the first one came out, 420 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:30.440 I'm like, that looks just like that. Yeah, And he 421 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.319 hated it because it was, you know, it was the antagonist. 422 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:37.400 He wasn't the guy you want to be. And then uh, 423 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:39.559 and so I would always tease him about it. You know, 424 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:41.480 we'd be playing golf and I'd do the shooter thing 425 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:44.240 or whatever. And then we were in the airport once 426 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:48.119 as a family and a random person with Christopher McDonald's way, 427 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:51.480 he's like Shooter McGavin, and I it was one of the. 428 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:52.960 Top five moments of my entire life. 429 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:54.920 He looked right at me because he hates it so much, 430 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:57.960 so we should get him a gold jacket. But to 431 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:01.039 his credit, one year he did dress up a shootout Halloween. 432 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:04.079 It's great, so self effacing as as he ages as 433 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:04.720 we all should be. 434 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:07.000 Absolutely, that's good. He leans into it. Do you feel 435 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.279 like you're self effacing? Can you laugh at yourself? 436 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:11.759 I mean yeah, I laugh at myself every day. 437 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:15.839 Okay, it's a good it's it's it's a good personality 438 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:18.920 trait to have to not take yourself too seriously. 439 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.799 It is, I think though the there's a line in 440 00:21:21.880 --> 00:21:25.279 Midnight to Paris where they're in a heming Way character says, 441 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:26.759 stop being so self effacing. 442 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.759 It's not manly. But maybe that's from a different generation. 443 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:32.079 Different generations, those guys who are boxing and fighting lines 444 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:33.400 and stuff and writing. 445 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:36.519 Did you watch the Ken Burns Hemingway? Oh doc, Oh yeah, 446 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.720 didn't seem like the most well adjusted fella. 447 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:40.759 No, well, I mean, dude, like I didn't know he 448 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:42.160 was in like six plane crashes. 449 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:45.119 Yeah I didn't like and yeah, yeah it was fascinating. 450 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:45.319 You know. 451 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.400 You know me, I'm a burnsy I'll watch anything and 452 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:50.680 everything they've been. They've got Revolutionary War coming out this fall, 453 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:51.960 so oh doubt on that. 454 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.240 Did you watch the Prohibition one? Surprisingly entertaining? 455 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:55.440 Oh? 456 00:21:55.480 --> 00:22:00.759 Absolutely, Prohibition, Even the more minute ones like the American Buffalo, 457 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:02.960 which came out last year. I've not seen that awesome. 458 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.480 It's only like a three parter. He you know, they 459 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.720 make the argument that more than the Bald Eagle, the 460 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:13.640 American Buffalo encapsulates what like this country really represents. Huh, 461 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:15.279 And I mean they got me convinced. 462 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:17.559 So at three part or so, it's twelve hours, not 463 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:19.640 seventy some of those. 464 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:21.319 Dude, it's like you feel like you're in class. 465 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:21.720 Yeah. 466 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:26.200 Well, I'm getting around to the point of trying to 467 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:29.119 convince my wife to watch some of the war documentaries, 468 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:31.759 but they're all two hours a piece and sometimes ten 469 00:22:31.799 --> 00:22:34.200 to twelve episodes long. So she's like, you think I 470 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:36.640 have twenty hours to watch about the status stuff And 471 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:39.240 I was like, it's fair point. It's that or Love 472 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:44.039 Island and I it's you know, a relationship is all 473 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:44.799 about compromise. 474 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:46.839 I hear, it is fair point. 475 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:52.039 And it feels like now attention spans, like it's one 476 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:53.839 thing to watch a two hour documentary. I feel like 477 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:55.640 a lot of people just want twenty twenty five minute 478 00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:56.200 quick show. 479 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:59.000 Yeah. I don't know if that's attention span or lack 480 00:22:59.039 --> 00:22:59.279 of time. 481 00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:02.240 No, ally, people at mad now when they have commercials 482 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.839 on their streamings, when it's like a thirty second interval, 483 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:08.920 We're like, I don't have time for you dove soap today. 484 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:12.200 Do you are you watching the Handmaid's Tail? You're watching 485 00:23:12.200 --> 00:23:15.480 anything Handmaid's Tale? What was I gonna tell you? 486 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:15.640 Oh? 487 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:17.559 I told you about Stick? Did you Stick? 488 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:20.720 I did? And it was better than I expected. 489 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.720 It's easy. It's a thirty minute shows as it is 490 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:24.359 to your point. 491 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:28.519 And Owen Wilson doesn't go like full himself, yes he 492 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:30.519 is instead of trying to add lib I told you. 493 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.920 My whole deal with Owen Wilson, I know, was him 494 00:23:32.920 --> 00:23:34.839 trying to keep up with the Vince Vaughan's of the world, 495 00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:37.599 which and Vince was like a master for like a decade. Yeah, 496 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:40.680 so like the Wedding Crasher stuff, great movie, but th 497 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:41.640 Owen stuff kind of fell in. 498 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:45.000 Not a lot on the on the programming list right now. 499 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.160 But Stick was good. I finished it. I've been doing 500 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:49.960 a lot of traveling. I've been on the road quite 501 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.720 a bit, Portland, Dallas, Standpoint, Sun Valley, so got a 502 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.079 lot of downtime. Yeah, caught up on Stick, did the 503 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:59.359 whole thing, but c K actually know what we'll do 504 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.319 entire So you've got a cool assignmer for the athletic 505 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:03.960 college football wise. 506 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:05.599 Well, let's do that in our next segment. 507 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:10.759 We've been awaiting the summer transfer window for RSL, and 508 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.839 they made two official acquisitions more potentially on the way, 509 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.319 Kurt said. Kurt was on the show yesterday. He said 510 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.359 he's looking at a couple of other options. Ruwan Cruz, 511 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:25.400 let's start there. A nine and a half, as Pablo 512 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.400 said on the show, a player who can play striker 513 00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.359 but also can make plays as well. We saw him 514 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.839 last night in League Cup action for about thirty minutes. 515 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:37.440 It was a quiet performance. There was nothing there, right o'heita, 516 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:39.240 I don't know what's going on with this dude. One 517 00:24:39.240 --> 00:24:40.960 goal in like eighty games and he has four in 518 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:45.079 his last four. But let's get into new acquisitions first. 519 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:47.480 'ron. Ruan Cruise, let's start there. 520 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.839 Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that fits their need 521 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:55.880 in many ways. He's a guy who can play multiple positions. 522 00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:58.880 Was part of the most arguably one of the most 523 00:24:58.920 --> 00:25:02.160 talented teams Brazil, a team that a lot of ourself 524 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.279 fans know Botafogo where yeah, for since Savarino went and 525 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.039 he who he who shall not be named, decided to 526 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:09.839 go and is not. I don't think he's played a 527 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:16.839 single minute your guy, Elias, Oh yeah, but Ruan Cruz 528 00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:21.000 was not necessarily a regular in that very deep team either, 529 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:22.960 and that that's a team that played very well at 530 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.079 the summer's Club World Cup. 531 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:25.519 So it's a very talented group. 532 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:28.880 They're betting on him to be able to come here 533 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:31.799 and unlock some abilities that they see in him. 534 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:32.720 He scored a bunch of. 535 00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:36.200 Goals when he was over in uh Ludigrets, which is 536 00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:40.359 one of the considered one of the better smaller you know, 537 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:45.960 club division teams in Europe and Bulgaria. And he's uh 538 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.400 he has the task in front of him, as does 539 00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:52.079 the other new guy, Victor Olatunji. Is getting used to 540 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:55.279 everything that comes with life in the MLS or in 541 00:25:55.480 --> 00:26:01.519 MLS excuse me, sorry, Trey travel heat, new teammates, guys 542 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.759 that want to beat the beat the living piss out 543 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.440 of you. Like not everybody comes to MLS and is 544 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.559 able to handle the physicality. I mean, I'm next time 545 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:12.920 you have Donny On Dunny has really good stories about 546 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.200 Ozy on today. 547 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:15.400 Okay, I mean, like. 548 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:18.960 So many times you talk to these guys who come here, 549 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.079 and that's the one thing that they say they're most 550 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.799 surprised about is just how physical the defenders play and 551 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.319 just how kind of ruthless it can be. But the 552 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.559 good thing about ourselves they signed two really big guys. 553 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.079 I mean, Rwan Cruz is like six something, Olatunji's like 554 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:35.640 six three, like an out and out, you know, striker 555 00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:39.640 number nine. So on paper, they fit the piece, They 556 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.640 fit the bill of what Rsel needed on paper. But again, 557 00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.559 adding adding any type of player in the summer transfer 558 00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:48.640 window is a huge ask because it takes so much 559 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:49.000 to get. 560 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:50.440 Up to speed financially. 561 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.200 There's an option to purchase Cruise at the end of 562 00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:58.240 eighteen months, I want to say, And you know, we 563 00:26:58.279 --> 00:26:59.839 talked about this couple of weeks ago as we were 564 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.720 preparing for the summer transfer window for a fan base 565 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:10.039 that is understandably skeptical, skeptical about ownership's commitment financially based 566 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:11.880 off of the past few years. 567 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:13.200 I mean, there, you know. 568 00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.319 Were some players brought in where some money was spent, 569 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.920 but then those players were moved on from and the 570 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:20.720 money was not reinvested in the club. What did this 571 00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.160 transfer window say to you about the miller's willingness to 572 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.519 invest in talent, if anything at all. 573 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:28.839 I think they are in a holding pattern, a wait 574 00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:33.240 and see pattern, a let's see how this group finishes 575 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.000 out the rest of the year type pattern, and and 576 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:40.240 justifiably so, they were not very good. You know, I've 577 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.000 been critical of the previous ownership regime and not spending, 578 00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.200 and everything went sideways with so many of the players 579 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:47.359 that left last year, starting with chi Cho Rongo. But 580 00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.839 the reality is, does it make sense to open up 581 00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:52.799 a check book and write a ten to twelve million 582 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.720 dollar check. You can argue yes if you feel like 583 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.799 your club is one piece away from transforming itself into 584 00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:01.200 a Western Conference contender. 585 00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:02.640 I don't know if Ursel's. 586 00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.799 There yet, but as guys have said on the show before, 587 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.240 I think Kurt and Jason have been pretty transparent with 588 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:09.319 you where they're like, we're not that type of club, 589 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.960 and maybe they are the type of club that are 590 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.920 going to try to excavate diamonds in the rough overseas 591 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.480 or in South America, which they've been able to do 592 00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.359 in the past. I mean, nobody had heard of Albert 593 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:22.599 Rusnak before he came here. Nobody had heard of Demir 594 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.839 cry Lock, nobody had heard of ye person Savarino, and 595 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.759 like those are all I mean, you could argue, you know, 596 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:32.680 top top three to five international signings in the history 597 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.160 of the club, like outside of hobby, Like the other 598 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:37.960 players that have been really good in Ursel's uniform, are 599 00:28:38.039 --> 00:28:40.319 you know, Nick Kyle some other guys. I guess you 600 00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.000 throw Sabo in. They're from the international perspective, but sooner 601 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:45.240 or later you're gonna have to hit on some of 602 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.200 these guys the way RSL did for a long time, 603 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.480 even when they were on a shoe string budget, and 604 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:51.799 we just haven't seen that necessarily from like a like 605 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:53.559 a star playmakers perspective. 606 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.799 So they're not advancing in League's Cup Nope, even though 607 00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:57.680 they won last night. 608 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:01.880 RP. Yeah, indeed. Kind of this new tournament, I mean, 609 00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:03.400 it's I mean, it's. 610 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.039 It's cool, but it's overkilled because we've seen so many 611 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.599 tournaments like the Club World Cup. You saw some of 612 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.680 some you know, League and MECHIS teams in it. The summer, 613 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:18.039 you saw some MLS teams in it, but like I 614 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.319 don't know, Seattle hung a seventh spot on Cruise A 615 00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.920 Zool which I think won Champions League last year, and 616 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.960 it's like, at what point can you start to take 617 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:29.839 this tournament seriously like his Mexico just are the Mexican 618 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.359 teams kind of just like meh, like what what do 619 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.039 we have to lose? And I know there's money at stake, 620 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:35.880 which you know, that's that's great for a lot of 621 00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.880 teams and players, but I don't think ultimately we can 622 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:43.440 look at this tournament where you're forcing Lega and Mechi's 623 00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.720 teams to fly all over the country and allow the 624 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.839 MLS teams to stay put and be like, oh, look 625 00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:49.839 at MLS holding their own. It's like I think if 626 00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:51.599 the if it was flipped around, if you had of 627 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:56.799 Ursel going from Mexico City to Tijuana to Wahaka or whatever, 628 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:58.319 it probably would be pretty ugly. 629 00:29:58.559 --> 00:29:59.799 So it is. 630 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.119 It is another I don't want to say useless tournament, 631 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:05.920 but I just don't know. I don't think it moves 632 00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:06.759 the needle at all. 633 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:08.119 Comparing the two leagues. 634 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.000 I think once upon a time, League at Mechi's was 635 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:12.400 head and shoulders above MLS. 636 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:13.839 Yeah, are they still. 637 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.960 From a spending perspective, yes, because there's no cap and 638 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.839 I think if you measured up like the top five 639 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.519 Mets teams with the top five MLS teams. I think 640 00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:31.279 I would take the Mexican teams, but the gap is closing. 641 00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:35.039 I mean you look at teams like Miami obviously, but 642 00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:38.319 there may be the exception Seattle's had a good League's Cup. 643 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:43.079 But other than that, it's like, is FC Cincinnati like 644 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.559 as stacked as t Grace where they have a bunch 645 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.839 of you know, current or former Mexican national team stars 646 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.000 or guys who were in Europe. 647 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:55.440 I don't know. So when it comes to the LAFC signing, 648 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:56.240 my guys. 649 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:57.200 Signed, excited. 650 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:01.559 That'll be cool, huge, huge signing for for LAFC, for 651 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.799 the because there's a huge Korean community in La. 652 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:05.640 Yeah, and he's got some juice left. 653 00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:08.440 Sonny's been one of my favorite players to watch in 654 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:09.839 soccer in the last ten years. 655 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:14.400 Easy, come on, you spurs my squad, did you see 656 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.519 I've long been of the opinion that. 657 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.680 Politicians talking about the clip should. 658 00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.799 Not be part of any of this stuff like politics Hollywood. 659 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:25.720 For ugly people go back and act like you're doing 660 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.240 something important, stay away from sports because you don't know anything. 661 00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.599 There was a politician, there was President that there was 662 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:35.079 present for the press conference and ask my guy son 663 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.400 essentially alluded to the fact that the World Cup is 664 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:40.240 coming here next year, win it for us, and we 665 00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.400 really need to win. And I don't know if you 666 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.079 saw Max Max. Max Bretta stepped up and said, I 667 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.839 guess we could have a US you know, Korea final 668 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:51.000 or whatever. It was, right, So he tried to bro Yeah, yeah, 669 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.839 he tried to ease it over. Politicians don't need to 670 00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:54.960 be a part of any of this stuff. 671 00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.319 Well, I don't know if you remember, but when Bashton 672 00:31:57.519 --> 00:31:59.920 Schweinsteiger came to the Chicago Fire like four or five 673 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.720 years ago, is the same thing. They're like, do you 674 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:03.799 think do you think you think we have what it 675 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:05.680 takes like with you here if you there? 676 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:07.440 Yeah? No, do he just won with Germany. 677 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.319 Yeah this This city councilman thought that because Sun is 678 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.559 now playing for LA he plays for US in the 679 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:14.279 World Cup, which is not how that works. 680 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.160 I mean, it'd be cool, he'd probably be our he'd be. 681 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.680 Our best player right away. Thomas Mueller lands in Vancouver. 682 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.519 So there there are. You know, once upon a time 683 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.559 it felt like these signings were you know, once every 684 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.920 two three years with Beckham here this or on recame 685 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.480 for a minute, it feels like there is like this 686 00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.480 legitimate influx of really good European players that do have 687 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.160 some gas left in the tank, that have come down 688 00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:40.400 ls over the past couple of years. 689 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:43.240 But I still think it's like two to three tops. 690 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.000 I mean, Thomas Muller was off the bench at Munich 691 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.880 the last couple of years and he basically achieved everything 692 00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.799 that any player would want. Won World Cups for this country, 693 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:56.720 one Champions League, when Bundesliga titles, Sun's thirty three. Like 694 00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.359 life comes at you fast, and it's cool that they're 695 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:03.200 going to be here, don't me wrong, but like weirdly, 696 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.599 like there was a clip circulating online of Tom Brady 697 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.680 talking about soccer and he was like what the US 698 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:12.279 needs is like they need like a young player like 699 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.039 Lamina mal at Barcelona, who at seventeen is probably the 700 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.039 best player in the world. Like in order to transform 701 00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:21.480 the like soccer in this country, you need somebody who 702 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.079 is that good, who is from here. And for Tom 703 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.200 to say that Tom knows the stuff because he's not wrong, 704 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:29.519 and like son's cool. Son being in in La is 705 00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.160 gonna be awesome. Maybe when LAFC comes here, we can 706 00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:33.880 all take the tracks out and go see your guy. 707 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:39.759 Thomas Mueller picking easily the best market in MLS, Like, 708 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.880 can't you can't fault anybody for choosing to live in Vancouver. Sure, 709 00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.519 it's it's the best city in North America. But again, 710 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.240 like these guys are in their mid to late thirties, 711 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.839 I think it'd be different if if you know, at 712 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.839 the height of his powers, for you know, Germany or Munich, 713 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.000 he was like twenty six. 714 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:55.880 He's like, now I'm going over. Yeah. 715 00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.240 You know, if that ever starts happening, then maybe the 716 00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.039 sport does change in a way that a lot of 717 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.000 people thought it would buy now but just hasn't it. 718 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.880 For honest, this conversation about changing the calendar MLS calendar 719 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:10.559 to the European calendar, how would that even work? 720 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:13.039 Like for a city like ours, you. 721 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:17.400 Got to put sophisticated, very very very very very expensive 722 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.039 heaters under there under the turf. I think they might 723 00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:22.800 already have some, but like enough to the point where 724 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:26.840 like you would have to invest millions and millions and 725 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.320 millions of dollars in stadiums that are cold. 726 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.239 What is that calendar? 727 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.559 It starts, they starting, they start in August, start in August, 728 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:35.480 they go through me. 729 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.280 That's it doesn't work well. It doesn't work for us. 730 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.119 It doesn't work for Colorado, it doesn't work for Minnesota. 731 00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:46.119 Like there so many cold weather cities in Major League Soccer. 732 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:50.800 Yeah, yeah, the the Midwest and then the Rocky Mountains 733 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:55.679 doesn't work. I don't think anybody's going to a Yankee 734 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.599 stadium to freeze their cohonas off to watch NYFC ny 735 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.639 CF in a blizzard. Things can get can get sideways 736 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:04.039 in DC. 737 00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:06.000 Yeah. 738 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.800 Basically, if you're I mean, if you if you could 739 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.320 front load the calendar for these teams to play in 740 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.159 warm weather areas and. 741 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:15.840 Then flip it. 742 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.719 But again, like you know, man, like we have snowstorms 743 00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.400 in March, we have snowstorms in April. 744 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.239 Ye, like it is. 745 00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.920 I think the notion of trying to get on the 746 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.639 calendar is endearing and I don't think it's a totally 747 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.000 stupid move, but I just don't think it will work 748 00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:36.239 out wells too. The logistics are way too complicated here. 749 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.000 I agree with you, And of course I'm approaching it 750 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.079 through the prism of RSL here in our market. And yes, 751 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.599 you're right, we have snowstorms in March in April, but 752 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.840 you can handle two or three as opposed to like 753 00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:48.079 nineteen or twenty. 754 00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:49.519 Correct, Yeah, you would. 755 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:52.320 I mean I would imagine if they're if you're staying 756 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.840 at America First Field, you probably have to make those 757 00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.159 overhangs different, more all encompassing, like you would have to 758 00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.079 the bells and whistles at that stadium would have to 759 00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:04.719 be updated substantially. 760 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:05.400 No, for sure. 761 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.159 So do you think at this point you're ready to 762 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.960 say RSL will at least qualify for the postseason. I'm 763 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:13.159 not saying anything beyond that. 764 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.159 Where are they in the eight? 765 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.360 They're unbeaten in ten. They've gone from thirteen to eighth 766 00:36:18.519 --> 00:36:21.880 in like six weeks. Right now, they're two point shy 767 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.480 of Austin, who's in seventh, but they're only one point 768 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:28.039 out of Colorado who's ninth. Honestly, this dopey league changes 769 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.880 the playoff, you know, structure. So I don't even know 770 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.920 how many teams make it. I think it's nine and 771 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:38.320 RSL is eight. San Jose's chasing, Houston's chasing, and they're 772 00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:39.559 just right behind Austin. 773 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:41.599 LAFC in Portland. 774 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:49.960 With the qualifier of key players staying healthy, and if 775 00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:54.039 Cruz or Olatunji get their hands on the starting spot 776 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:56.159 and start scoring goals, I think they have a chance 777 00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:59.559 to make it in. But if they're still relying on 778 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.559 Diego Luna to shoulder so much of the offensive firepower, 779 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.920 and if they're relying on Brian o'hada, who I think 780 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.760 had like zero goals or a goal in like his 781 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.360 first three years here, to all of a sudden having 782 00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:18.239 this crazy runs, that's not realistic. So again, the pieces 783 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:21.440 are potentially there, but you have to see it playut 784 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:22.039 in real time. 785 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.239 One more soccer thing, we'll catch a break. 786 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:26.679 C K wrote a really really good piece on a 787 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.880 former ute that I I think I'd may have heard 788 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:31.679 of his name, but I did not know his story. 789 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.320 So we'll do that, and we'll do some Utah football 790 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:36.840 and tell you about Chris's assignment for Week zero college 791 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:41.320 football shout out John Paul, the Royals move on from 792 00:37:41.360 --> 00:37:46.159 Ali Sender and the coach came out and said she 793 00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:48.639 wanted to be moved. A couple of days after the transaction, 794 00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.159 they got six hundred K spread out over the course 795 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:52.760 of a couple of. 796 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.960 Years or years, I don't know. 797 00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:59.440 Man, Like the first iteration of the Royals seems like 798 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.440 it had a lot more buzz than this one. 799 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.079 We had a lot more buzz. It had superstar talent. Man, 800 00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.079 So what are we doing here? I don't know, that's 801 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.280 a great question. I mean, like, I think you have 802 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.920 to do a hell of a lot to convince the 803 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.000 fan base that this is a team that's going to 804 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.719 be invested in. Yeah, because once upon a time before COVID, 805 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.000 that stadium was getting ten to eleven thousand people at 806 00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.639 her home games, second most in the league. And the 807 00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.840 fact that you deal somebody who honestly probably is the 808 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.159 odds on favorite to be the starting striker at the 809 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:33.880 next Women's World Cup. For I don't want to say 810 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:38.039 pennies on the dollar because I don't know the proper equivalent. 811 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:41.760 But you're trading her to the team that basically turned 812 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:45.760 you turned into because the previous rendition of it folded. 813 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:49.519 Maybe it was. 814 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.880 I mean, you didn't see anything from her camp come 815 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.440 out and dispute the notion that she wanted out. So 816 00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:01.360 if we're being very hypothetical here and we're pontificating on 817 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:03.440 what her thought process might have been, maybe she looked 818 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:05.039 at the writing on the wall and be like, I 819 00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:08.039 have no idea what's going on either. So why am 820 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.039 I going to stay on a team that has probably 821 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.239 the lowest amount of talent in the league, at the 822 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.480 bottom of the table. What am I doing wasting my 823 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:19.239 talent here? It's a big question because once upon a 824 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.719 time the Royals were kind of the destination spot in 825 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.480 this league, and after everything that's gone on, they kind 826 00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:26.639 of find themselves on the other end. 827 00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:28.840 Yeah, I was surprised to get that news. All right, 828 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:30.599 we'll catch a break. We'll do some college football with 829 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:34.519 Ck coming up next. We got one more segments with 830 00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:38.639 Chris Camroannie from the Athletic who we spent some time 831 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:41.920 with last weekend. We should shout out our gout trapped. 832 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.440 We got a shout out our got trapped the goat. 833 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.360 The Goat had us over to the place Juggarhouse. 834 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:48.119 Was enjoyable. 835 00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.559 Shout out bench, everybody, shout out everybody except for Trey. 836 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.239 He was out of town. So it was enjoyable seeing 837 00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.159 you and your bride in a social setting. 838 00:39:58.199 --> 00:39:59.639 How did a Manda enjoy the group? 839 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:00.519 It was great. 840 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.480 It was it had been so long that we were 841 00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:04.800 both together in a social setting that. She was like, man, 842 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.039 I need more reps, and I was like, I do too. 843 00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.679 More reps just like you. 844 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.039 Well, no, you just forget because like when you are, 845 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.639 when you're in the throes of putting a kid to 846 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.440 bed for two and a half years straight. 847 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:18.559 Yes, it's it's kind of hard, man. 848 00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.039 But it's also such a great built in excuse to 849 00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:21.800 get gone early. 850 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:23.199 I'm not saying you wanted to leave that one. 851 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.480 I did. I did, trust me, Man, the mosquitoes were 852 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:28.920 biting me. 853 00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:29.800 They like my blood. 854 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.599 Look you're talking to a famous user of an Irish 855 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.360 kol guy, so I'm not judging you at all. And 856 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.599 as I age, just leaving the house feels like a 857 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:38.559 massive accomplishment. 858 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.280 I mean, leaving the house to do errands to me 859 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:46.000 is way way in my wheelhouse. But like, it has 860 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.320 to be the right group of people for me to 861 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.039 be like, yeah, I can spend the next few hours there. Sure, 862 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.320 Other than that, I'm doing forty five to an hour, 863 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:58.039 and then I'm gonna be like, oh, man, got got 864 00:40:58.119 --> 00:40:59.079 this text, but. 865 00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.639 You got you have, but you have the perfect excuse. Sure, yeah, 866 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:04.039 I've got a good one with the dog. Yeah, but 867 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:05.920 it's not as good it's not near as good. 868 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:06.079 Now. 869 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:07.840 You know, like you can leave a dog alone for 870 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.719 a few hours, you can't leave a kid alone for 871 00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:10.360 a few hours. 872 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.840 Yeah, you can't use your kid because he's like an adult. 873 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.880 Now, No, Connor's the one that would be coming home 874 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.079 for me. Connor's about to turn twenty four, so no, 875 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:20.800 no longer can use that as an excuse. 876 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:23.159 I know I have a coop button. 877 00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:27.480 Everyone calmed down, All right, let's start with you wrote 878 00:41:27.480 --> 00:41:29.039 a piece, You've been working on it for a while 879 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:32.079 for the Athletic and I'll tell Utah football fans run 880 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:32.599 and read it. 881 00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:34.119 Chris, I know you don't. 882 00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:36.960 Like it when I compliment you. You're you're very good at 883 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:41.920 things such as this. A feature on Greg Newman, who 884 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:46.000 was a defensive tackle for the Utah football team who 885 00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:48.719 beat Alabama in the two thousand and nine Sugar Bowl. 886 00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.639 And I'll be honest, i'd only heard of him, and 887 00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.119 I did not know what has turned out to be 888 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.000 just a tragic story. So origin story. When did you 889 00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:59.800 first hear about it and take us through this process? 890 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:01.880 Well, I mean you were off. 891 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.920 So I was lucky enough to talk about this with 892 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:08.400 OC because OCI knew Greg and even Scott Mitchell, Yeah, 893 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.079 was on and we talked about it. But this starting out, 894 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:16.559 the story has been like massively well received, which is 895 00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:20.920 not dute. I appreciate your your plotits, but it all 896 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.159 the credit goes to the family for being transparent about 897 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:26.280 this stuff, because if they're not willing to open their 898 00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:31.440 doors up and like pour out their souls of basically 899 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:33.440 every piece of heartache that they've dealt with for the 900 00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.079 past fifteen years, stories like this don't get told and 901 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.239 they don't resonate with people for sure. But the backstory 902 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.079 is is I was at the Cronny as the beat 903 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:44.760 writer of the two thousand and eight Utah team. They 904 00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.360 went undefeated. Greg and I were the same age, graduated 905 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:48.039 at the same time. 906 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:49.480 You know. 907 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:51.119 The anecdote I always say is like, this is back 908 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.800 when Kyle would let reporters watch practice and we could 909 00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.119 report on practice. So we would walk walk down and 910 00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.920 just talk to people. If there's no big deal there 911 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.199 were the drugs machine was not clicking in the back, 912 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.960 that was not going on. Back then, things were more tranquilo. 913 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:10.000 But like so many other people, I forgot about Greg 914 00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.159 even though I talked to him, A bunch covered him 915 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.719 he was a starter on a team that went undefeated 916 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:19.159 and beat Alabama, had had a sack in the Sugar Bowl. Like, 917 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:23.280 this is a guy who has his hand in history 918 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.159 for this university, and I forgot about him until he 919 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:29.639 passed away last year and I saw that, you know, 920 00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.800 the GoFundMe was circulating and I was like, wow, like 921 00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:37.639 that's crazy. And his brother in law, Jef Dire, posted 922 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.679 this GoFundMe and immediately was pretty transparent about what they 923 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.840 believed was the cause of Greg's demise was. They thought 924 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:47.960 it was, you know, CTE, and they were raising money 925 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.840 to donate to the Boston University CTE Center, which is 926 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.920 at the forefront of the science of this studying this disease. 927 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.519 So then like this is May twenty four and I 928 00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:59.400 just reach out and I'm like, hey, guys, like this 929 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.840 is who I am. I kind of have this unique perspective. 930 00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:04.599 I didn't know Greg well at all, but like I 931 00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.199 was basically following him around the country at one point 932 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.519 as the same age, and would you be willing to 933 00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.400 talk to me? And you know, they were awesome, they 934 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.559 were great. So basically for the past sixteen seventeen months, 935 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.400 I was talking to them about this story while they 936 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.840 donated his brain right after he died, and then they 937 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.159 waited over a year to get the results, and then 938 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:27.400 they got the results the first week of June confirmed 939 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.599 stage two CTE. And then the hard part came because, like, 940 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.280 I have a year, nearly a year and a half 941 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:35.159 worth of stuff, and I got to put it together 942 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.320 in some comprehensive story. So that's what I spent like 943 00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.159 the last two months basically doing. 944 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.320 So for our Utah football fan listeners fill in the 945 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.559 blanks between Sugar Bowl two thousand and nine, yeah, and 946 00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:50.880 when Greg passed. 947 00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:54.280 So, I mean, there are so many alarming points of 948 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.840 the story, man, But like the one that like honestly 949 00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:58.519 makes the hair stand up on the back of your 950 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.480 neck is the fact that his SIMP showed up just 951 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.960 a year after he stopped playing football. Yeh, So Greg 952 00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.440 stopped playing football twenty three years old, a month after 953 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.119 he turned twenty three, a month after the Sugar Bowl ended, 954 00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:13.559 and then a year later he is starting to show 955 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:18.119 symptoms and for the next fifteen years he is dealing 956 00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:24.519 with states of paranoia catatonia, speaking in tongues like stuff 957 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:26.599 that nobody should have to see. A loved one go 958 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:31.599 through and it is so painful to ask somebody to 959 00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:34.480 relive all this stuff. But like again, the fact that 960 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.880 his family was willing to for me to be transparent 961 00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:42.119 for the story just basically humanizes this disease at a 962 00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.519 level that all the studies in the world, Like even 963 00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:48.360 doctor An McKee, who is the head like chief neurologists 964 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.719 at BU. She told me, she was like, these are 965 00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.239 the stories that make people pay attention. We could put 966 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.360 out all of these studies that say ninety one percent 967 00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:58.719 of these and a former NFL players who donated the 968 00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.199 brands had ct doesn't resonate. But if you get somebody 969 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:06.440 who's willing to share their loved one story posthumously, it 970 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.079 hits people. And it's this one's hit hit people pretty hard. 971 00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:13.239 I mean, Greg, you know, he missed so many key 972 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:17.519 like inflection points in his life because of this disease. 973 00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.719 He dreamed about having a family, he dreamed about, you know, 974 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:23.440 moving to New York and working on Wall Street, which 975 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.519 he did for a while, but all of these things 976 00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.480 were derailed by you know, mental episodes that were ultimately 977 00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.639 caused by CTE. And he died at age thirty eight, 978 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.719 and like you know, I last summer I went to 979 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.159 his memorial. I went to a celebration of life at 980 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:42.360 a at a church in Farmington, and nobody was there, Like, 981 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.920 there were a few former youths there. Gary Anderson was there, 982 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:51.000 but like it's a reminder that like, while these guys 983 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:56.000 are considered like all the kind of stereotypical macho bs 984 00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.000 that's thrown out thrown around about them, that they are warriors, 985 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:02.639 they are brothers. All this stuff is, you know, it's real, 986 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:05.519 but the repercussions that come from this sport for some 987 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.679 people are fatal. And it's like until you know somebody, 988 00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.960 until you followed somebody, until you played next to somebody 989 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:16.079 that dealt with this, it doesn't really hit you. But 990 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.119 for so many Utah fans, for his teammates, for people 991 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:25.480 who knew Greg, watching him basically his brain decompose over 992 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.360 fifteen years was really really painful. I mean I talked 993 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:29.960 to Mike Wright and like, Mike was one of the 994 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.840 few former uths that was that was at the memorial, 995 00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:35.440 and he was like, I think a lot of the 996 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.440 one of the main reasons people didn't want to go 997 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.199 is because they felt like they said goodbye to Greg 998 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:41.159 a long time ago, because that greg that they knew, 999 00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:42.480 they knew was gone for so long. 1000 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.000 Yeah, a couple things stood out, well, a lot, a 1001 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.719 lot stood out. And you can get the links to 1002 00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:50.079 this story if you haven't read it yet on CK's 1003 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.440 Twitter or just go to the Athletic. You can search 1004 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:56.039 Chris Comaraddi. Yeah, Chris Comaraddi is where you find it. 1005 00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.440 So when he passed, he was homeless. 1006 00:47:59.599 --> 00:47:59.880 Yep. 1007 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.239 He was found near a freeway forty five miles north 1008 00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:07.719 of Los Angeles in his hometown thousands of thousands of Oak, 1009 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:11.440 California Highway one oh one. And at the time, the 1010 00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:15.639 cause of death was multiple organ failure caused by kretum. Now, 1011 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:20.000 kretum is a stimulant supplement that a lot of people 1012 00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:23.559 have used to get off of opioid pain medication. I 1013 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:27.440 believe its origin is Thailand's It's yeah, I mean that 1014 00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:29.719 doesn't matter no right, but that it. 1015 00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:34.679 Is a botanical herb. Yeah that is currently not authorized 1016 00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:36.400 by the FDA and is sold. 1017 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:38.800 I mean I live right get it, Chevron. 1018 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:40.599 I live right down the street from a CBD store 1019 00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:42.280 that hastom in the blinking lights. 1020 00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:42.599 Yeah. 1021 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:47.400 Yeah, so that initially organ failure caused by kretum and 1022 00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:50.920 again as c K reference, it is not FDA approved. 1023 00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.039 You can you can get it anywhere, you know. 1024 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:57.719 Have they changed the cause of death based off the 1025 00:48:57.760 --> 00:48:59.159 findings of these they have. 1026 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:03.519 No so CTE like they're the varying stages like CTE 1027 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:08.239 Stage four is the most severe stage, which basically renders 1028 00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:13.639 like the human basically not functional. Those are very rare. 1029 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.360 I can't remember. I think maybe Frank Gifford when he died, 1030 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:20.599 had something close to that, but he was so old. 1031 00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:22.360 I don't know that for sure, But like most of 1032 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.239 the cases are anywhere from one to three. But like 1033 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:27.719 the thing that killed Greg was he was taking so 1034 00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.360 much Credom because he felt like it would help him focus, 1035 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.239 he felt like it would alleviate the pain that was 1036 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:35.000 going on in his brain and body that it caused 1037 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:38.760 his kidneys and livers to stop functioning. And like I said, 1038 00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.400 there the story kind of tells itself, and it's even's 1039 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.360 brutal to say, but like, here's a guy who was 1040 00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.280 the star football player at a very affluent neighborhood in 1041 00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:49.679 southern California. He was on the front page of the 1042 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.559 newspaper and he turned out to be the guy twenty 1043 00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.559 years later, like you know, trying to sell stuff and 1044 00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.760 ask for money in the Whole Food's parking lot, and 1045 00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:59.280 like this is a guy who had a sack in 1046 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:03.119 the Sugar Bowl. And you know, Kyle Whittingham told me, like, 1047 00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.119 we don't go undefeated without Greg without you know, they 1048 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.079 had a bunch of injuries on the interior line that 1049 00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:10.400 year and Greg stepped in. He was a former linebacker, 1050 00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:13.239 like crazy, undersized, and he did well. He had nine 1051 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:14.840 and a half sacks, tied for the most on a 1052 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:18.400 defense that sent seven guys to the seven guys got 1053 00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:23.639 drafted off that defense. So the anecdotes are terribly painful, 1054 00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:26.039 but like they're the things that, unfortunately, I think people 1055 00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:28.920 need to read in order for them to like reflect 1056 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:33.119 on what, for some people is the ultimate reality of 1057 00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:34.159 playing the sport. 1058 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:38.679 Another interesting anecdote or you know, piece of the story 1059 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:42.199 because you reference and it was his sister Laura, correct yep. 1060 00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.400 So by his twenty fourth birthday, he was only twenty 1061 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.880 four when Laura said to you quote that's when the 1062 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:54.199 voices started, yep. And Greg told Laura and his family 1063 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.559 that the voices in his mind told him he needed 1064 00:50:56.599 --> 00:51:01.079 to serve a mission for the LDS Church. He was, 1065 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.360 he was sent home and reassigned after four months, right 1066 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:06.119 a radic behavior. 1067 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.559 He was in Tampa, Spanish speaking, and then got sent 1068 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:13.840 home and then you know, saw some more, saw some therapists. 1069 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:17.039 The church helped with that, and then he felt like 1070 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:19.159 he was good enough. I think it was about eight 1071 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:23.119 months afterward to serve in a Utah based mission. So 1072 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.639 he served in Ogden, but that was short lived as 1073 00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:26.760 well because of the episodes. 1074 00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:33.519 And in addition, there was you know, years of progress 1075 00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:35.840 right where he moved to New York yep. He was 1076 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:40.039 hired by Northern Trust, passed the first two stages of 1077 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.079 the Chartered Financial Analyst exam, and those exams aren't easy. 1078 00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:44.639 I mean you've got to put in work, you've got 1079 00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:45.199 to study. 1080 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.360 He was top ten percent in both of those. 1081 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:51.079 Had a girlfriend, kept himself in shape. So there were 1082 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.559 moments in years of progress where you thought he was 1083 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:54.119 getting out of it. 1084 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.760 But you also received access to his journals. Yep. 1085 00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.719 What are some of your takeaways from reading Greg wrote 1086 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.719 during this this horrible process? 1087 00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.159 Yeah, I mean like we like I said, credit goes 1088 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:10.079 to Greg's family because his words tell the story better 1089 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:14.199 than I could, and they shared you know, dozens and 1090 00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:17.320 dozens of pages of journal entries from over the years, 1091 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:21.679 and it's like seeing how he felt ashamed of how 1092 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.760 he was unable to deal with his mental state. Was 1093 00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.239 was really was really sad. Like it for obvious, like 1094 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:34.840 to state the obvious, but to see somebody's de evolution 1095 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.360 in real time just through handwriting is really crazy because, 1096 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:44.239 like the earlier entries are extremely coherent, he's asking questions 1097 00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:46.920 of why he's feeling this way, but then as the 1098 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.679 years go on, they become increasingly less coherent, to the 1099 00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:55.159 point where he starts basically thinking he's living in an 1100 00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.519 imaginary world. Like I said, he's drawing pictures of dragons 1101 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:01.400 that he thinks will he'll be able to sell to 1102 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.920 people in the parking lot of you know, the whole 1103 00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:07.639 Foods in his hometown got obsessed with crystals because they 1104 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.599 felt like he felt like they could be a healing 1105 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:15.360 factor with his mind. He was, you know, an an 1106 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.039 unhoused guy at the library, always on the computer, and 1107 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.280 like you see that a lot in big cities and 1108 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:25.199 small cities too, and like it's it's it's yeah, it's 1109 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.519 it's a it's a stark reminder for everybody that like, 1110 00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:32.280 while we while we celebrate this, this sport and this 1111 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:35.079 is part of the DNA of our of our country's culture, 1112 00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:40.000 there are people who we lose along the way. And unfortunately, 1113 00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.559 there are a lot of people that aren't necessarily leading 1114 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:43.480 sports center. 1115 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.559 And the you know, one more thing here and then 1116 00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.519 we'll get to your assignment for the athletic and do 1117 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:49.800 a little Utah football before I say you lose. One 1118 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.679 of the things that almost made me emotional reading it 1119 00:53:53.800 --> 00:53:56.559 was he tried. Yeah, you know, he was looking for solutions, 1120 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:58.719 He was looking for answers. He wasn't giving up. He 1121 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.840 was trying to figure some stuff out out the line. 1122 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.519 I think this is his mother quote. His imaginary world 1123 00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.719 was more real to him than this. There wasn't a 1124 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.599 light side to him anymore. He he was he was 1125 00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:13.239 trying to get on his feet. You know, he wanted 1126 00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:14.920 to work, He wanted to be a part of society. 1127 00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:18.559 This wasn't some deadbeat that just you know, was resigned 1128 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:19.159 to his fate. 1129 00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:19.719 Yeah. 1130 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:26.519 Well, and again, there are so many like truly like 1131 00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:31.119 horrifyingly sad anecdotes in the story, but like one of 1132 00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.079 the reasons why he felt like drugs like Adderall that 1133 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.480 would help him like focus, because his the you know, 1134 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.719 the the damage to his brain wouldn't allow him to 1135 00:54:40.719 --> 00:54:44.280 focus at all. So he would take Adderall and vibe Ance, 1136 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:48.960 which are stimulants to help you focus. Unknowingly, that is 1137 00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:53.480 what made the voices and what made his episodes more 1138 00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:55.840 and more intense and more and more often. So it's 1139 00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:59.199 it's tough, and it is you know, it's it's a 1140 00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:02.679 privileged to be able to tell his story like I, 1141 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:04.679 you know, we talk about some of my best stories 1142 00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:06.679 and I often tell you that I can't remember, but 1143 00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:09.280 like Greg will absolutely be at the top of the list. 1144 00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:09.639 It was. 1145 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:12.920 It was gripping. It was really well done. Once I started, 1146 00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.360 I couldn't stop. Yeah, the Adderall stuff, man, I know, 1147 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:21.760 it's basically accepted in our society is something that people met. 1148 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:23.480 It's met. It is legalized method. 1149 00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:26.920 It is a stimulant that allows the brand to hyper 1150 00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:30.199 focus on things. But like to me, like the helmet too, 1151 00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.840 like the like the fact that they found his helmet 1152 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.039 in in storage after he died, and just the damage 1153 00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.400 that still shows you after just one game in the 1154 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:40.559 game that was like the highlight of his career is 1155 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:41.559 pretty telling as well. 1156 00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.639 Yeah, the anecdote where his parents brought him a meal 1157 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:46.599 on Christmas when he was living in a tent. Dude, 1158 00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:49.360 it was just like the whole thing is. It's very, 1159 00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.280 very powerful. So well done there, It's time to hit 1160 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:56.719 the pitch on the drive. The RSL Insider today and 1161 00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.000 every day is brought to you by Beer Bar Head 1162 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.480 Downtown for watching and game day shuttles to the stadium 1163 00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.239 more at beer BARSLC dot com. 1164 00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.079 Time now for the triumphant return. He's been a busy boy. 1165 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.599 He's traveling all over the place, but I believe he's back. 1166 00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:12.159 In town now. 1167 00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:16.199 Brian Dunseeth RSL Legends, Dottie, how are you, buddy. 1168 00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:17.559 I'm good. 1169 00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:20.119 I'm good. Yeah, I appreciate that. By the way. Two things. 1170 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:23.159 Number one, I'm so happy for you man. You're absolutely 1171 00:56:23.239 --> 00:56:25.079 killing it. I love to see the arc of your 1172 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.880 career and how you've established yourself as the voice of 1173 00:56:28.960 --> 00:56:31.719 sports here in Utah and just the role that you 1174 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:34.480 have in educating people and getting the guests that you have. 1175 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.000 You do such a great job. And then I'll know 1176 00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:38.360 in my own minds, I like to think that a 1177 00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:41.119 tribe call Quest is be open just specifically for me. 1178 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.679 So yeah, man, I'm always appreciative of the opportunity to 1179 00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:45.719 talk without you my man, well. 1180 00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:46.960 I appreciate the kind words. 1181 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.800 And yes, when we think Dottie, we think RSL, so 1182 00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:52.119 it is for you, or excuse me, we think tribe 1183 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:52.679 call quest. 1184 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:54.719 It is for you. Are you back? Are you back 1185 00:56:54.760 --> 00:56:55.880 on the ground? Bryan? 1186 00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.119 I am, I am. I was just my wife and 1187 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:03.639 I were just calculating what these last two months have 1188 00:57:03.760 --> 00:57:08.239 been since I did the United States first game against 1189 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:14.159 Turkey two months ago out in Stanford, Connecticut, and I've 1190 00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:18.960 done thirty eight games in two months times. So the 1191 00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.199 FIFA Club World Cup, I think I did twenty five 1192 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.639 games in twenty eight days back to MLS and then 1193 00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.559 I just came off doing six games in eight days 1194 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:32.039 for the League's Cup. So very very very fortunate and 1195 00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:35.280 a very very busy time. And my wife Jade is 1196 00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.440 doing what we're can, giving me this opportunity for a 1197 00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:39.039 dream job. 1198 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:45.960 And it feels like, to reciprocate your kind words, your 1199 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.119 career has really taken off as well. I mean, what's 1200 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.039 it kind of been like to expand this role that 1201 00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.559 once upon a time was calling RSL games on the 1202 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:57.679 radio or doing pre aff and postgames on the radio 1203 00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.400 with me. And now to experience where you your career 1204 00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:01.239 art has taken you. 1205 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:03.480 Yeah, no, man, listen. 1206 00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:06.440 For those that don't know when I retired or what, 1207 00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:10.320 they just basically said, you're not good enough. My first 1208 00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.880 job in the business was with you doing prem postgame 1209 00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:17.119 radio for weal sall late games and that was that 1210 00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:18.840 was two thousand and six. That would have been right 1211 00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:22.239 around May two thousand and six. And uh, you know, 1212 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:26.480 here here this crazy path of not having an agent 1213 00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:30.920 and you know this trying to create relationships and be 1214 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:32.599 a man of your work and be a man of 1215 00:58:33.159 --> 00:58:35.440 you know good you know, like your morals and sticking 1216 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.400 to it, especially in this business which you know you 1217 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:39.519 can sell your you can sell your soul pretty quickly, 1218 00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.719 as we've seen a lot of guys in our business do. Yeah, man, 1219 00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.800 really really really fortunate And the FIFA Club World Cup 1220 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:49.599 was the first time that I was getting the opportunity 1221 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:54.039 to be the undisputed number one analyst, you know, being 1222 00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.199 able to call some amazing games with Andris Cantor for 1223 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:02.000 Lionel Messi and then to Miami to being there and 1224 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:05.199 watching PSG thump Real Madrid and calling the game from 1225 00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:08.360 MetLife Stadium and that four nil thrashing, and then you know, 1226 00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:12.480 four days later, watching Chelsea beat PSG at their own 1227 00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:17.480 game in the sellout of MetLife Stadium. You know, to 1228 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:20.480 the point where I got invited to a FIFA dinner 1229 00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:23.719 one of those gallays and I said, nah, my Left 1230 00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:25.840 Coast j goes, are you out of your mind? You 1231 00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:29.960 are absolutely going And it's Cipriani's on fifty fifth Wall 1232 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.480 Street and being there with Infantino and Arsen Benger and 1233 00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:37.079 you know, iconic players like Stitchcof and Cafu and being 1234 00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.440 around all the guys from the Zone and you know, 1235 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.159 hearing them speak in front of me about you know, 1236 00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:43.039 the job that I do. 1237 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:43.440 It was. 1238 00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:47.360 It was wild man, so very very very thankful, very fortunate. 1239 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:51.000 You know, a broadcast that on his own was doing good, 1240 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.960 jillions of numbers doing on T and T almost two 1241 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:59.599 million eyeballs for the game. Yeah, it's outside of outside 1242 00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:03.079 of Colin World Cup or calling a UA FIT Champions 1243 01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.199 League final. This was the biggest game that I've could 1244 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:09.159 have been a part of. And yeah, hopefully keep the 1245 01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:11.599 ball rolling and continue to grow and evolved as a broadcaster. 1246 01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:13.199 It's been a fun ride. 1247 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:14.239 Man, it's really cool. 1248 01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.519 I wonder, Donnie, how you would articulate because I heard 1249 01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:21.079 you know, Don Garber has told the story when he 1250 01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.519 was in for our listeners who don't know. Don Garber 1251 01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:26.119 is the commissioner of Major League Soccer, and when he 1252 01:00:26.199 --> 01:00:29.599 was with the NFL, they went overseas and he saw 1253 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:31.760 a real Madrid game and I think it was in 1254 01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:35.320 it inz to Don who scored like a crazy scissor kick, 1255 01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:39.400 like thirty yard bomb, and that was like Don's eye 1256 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:43.000 opening moment to wait, soccer has played like this, And 1257 01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:46.519 my father oftentimes tells the story similarly of being with 1258 01:00:46.599 --> 01:00:49.840 the NBA NBA International prior to his staying with MSG, 1259 01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:54.000 and he was over in Madrid and went to a 1260 01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:57.480 real Madrid game and saw the way soccer was played 1261 01:00:57.519 --> 01:01:00.599 over there, juxtaposed with the way that it's plight here. 1262 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:04.599 How do you articulate, Like when you're calling a FIFA 1263 01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:10.320 World Cup Championship match between two powerhouses like Chelsea and PSG, 1264 01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.679 and then you're asked to call like a Columbus crew. 1265 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:16.199 I don't know, San Jose game? What what? 1266 01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:16.320 What? 1267 01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.079 Are the main differences in the way the game is 1268 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.119 played at the highest of levels in Europe or wherever, 1269 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.239 opposed to the way that it's played here in Major 1270 01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:24.920 League Soccer. 1271 01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:26.920 And are we making progress here? 1272 01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:30.559 Yeah? Let me let me, let me, let me attack 1273 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:35.960 this from the way you fit or doesn't get the 1274 01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.599 respect that it deserves. And you and I go back 1275 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:42.079 to that first year with Real Salt Lake playing up 1276 01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.400 at Rice Cycles and trying to put together a team 1277 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:48.920 led by Jason christ and Clant Mathis and Eddie Pope 1278 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:53.199 and Dante Washington myself, you know, mixed in with Brian Candler, 1279 01:01:53.239 --> 01:01:58.079 mixed in with a bunch of dynamic, young, inexperienced, heavily talented, 1280 01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:02.880 heavily egoed kids, and where the modern game is now 1281 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.840 versus then, it's undescribable. I mean I could sit here 1282 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.519 and try to wax poetic verbally and I still wouldn't 1283 01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:11.760 touch the growth that we have in the League Soccer. 1284 01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:15.280 The speed of player, of technical ability, the infrastructure. I mean, 1285 01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:20.079 we were getting dressed in the football locker room, its 1286 01:02:20.199 --> 01:02:23.039 stepping out on that turf and our bodies were breaking 1287 01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.800 down on a daily basis because ten months training on 1288 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.760 turf and never being on grass is absolutely murdered all 1289 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.440 of us. And to see now what happens, you know, 1290 01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:35.320 down at the Zebra, the training facility for REALSHA like 1291 01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.440 the infrastructure for the academy for the Monarchs, for the Royals, 1292 01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:43.280 the investment, the collective bargaining Agreement, all of these things. 1293 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.280 It's incredible what we've seen in real time. But we're 1294 01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:50.039 also then trying to judge, you know, this juxtaposition of 1295 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:54.920 a team that's thirty years old versus these infrastructures that 1296 01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.159 are over one hundred years old. And even the game 1297 01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.440 against Club America the other night, I mean, you have 1298 01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:02.320 one hundred year's worth of difference between these two clubs. 1299 01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:04.920 We all saw laking Club America. So when you're talking 1300 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:10.440 about Chelsea, you're talking about PSG, it's to spend. You know, 1301 01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:14.159 Chelsea spent over two billion dollars on players in the 1302 01:03:14.239 --> 01:03:19.920 last three seasons, versus a PSG that has an unlimited 1303 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:25.159 checkbook because it's state funded. So when you're talking about that, 1304 01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.000 you're talking about players that are worth you know, anywhere 1305 01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:31.480 from fifty to one hundred million that are sprinkled throughout 1306 01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:36.199 that roster. And to see the speed, the athleticism, the intelligence, 1307 01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:40.079 the technical ability to see and try to put together 1308 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.639 food for thought. When you're talking about tactics and you know, execution, 1309 01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:49.679 it's it's it's just not fair to try to compare 1310 01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:53.320 the elite of the elite versus what we've seen in 1311 01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:56.519 Major League soccer. I know, we're constantly trying to wed 1312 01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:58.079 and this is what the brilliance of the FIFA Club 1313 01:03:58.119 --> 01:04:01.639 World Cup because we say, oh, you know, like Fluminense 1314 01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.480 in Brazil, you know, I wonder what they would look 1315 01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.840 like against a premier league team, a game that matters. 1316 01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.760 This summer was not about friendlies. This summer was about 1317 01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:15.679 the winning team taking home over one hundred million dollars. 1318 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:22.440 One hundred million dollars. So the balance is the speed 1319 01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:24.400 of play is going to look different, the technical ability 1320 01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:26.880 is going to look different, and the overall quality the 1321 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:31.079 assets are astronomical versus when you're in Major League soccer, 1322 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:34.639 you know that there's a really strong starting eleven and 1323 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:36.639 then it's going to taper off a little bit. But 1324 01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:39.639 I think that's the brilliance of having owners like Inter 1325 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.880 Miami with Jorge mass and David Beckham that are pushing 1326 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:46.719 the envelope of growth in Major League Soccer. I still 1327 01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:48.960 don't think David Beckham gets the credit he deserves for 1328 01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:50.440 coming at the time in which he did to the 1329 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:53.400 LA Galaxy. But I also don't think he gets the 1330 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:56.719 credit for what he's done in terms of building inter Miami, 1331 01:04:57.119 --> 01:04:59.480 because I think that club is really going to push 1332 01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:02.960 the envelop and fast track and rising tide is going 1333 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:06.199 to lift all ships in Major League Soccer, and I 1334 01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:09.920 think we're going to see I call it nuclear arms spending, Spence. 1335 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:12.000 I think you're going to see more and more nuclear 1336 01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:14.559 arms spending because it's going to be the necessity of 1337 01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.719 MLS teams having to spend between ten to fifteen million 1338 01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.000 just to stay with him touching distance, as other teams 1339 01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:24.199 are going to look to push the threshold somewhere between 1340 01:05:24.280 --> 01:05:27.159 twenty five and thirty five million per off season and 1341 01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:28.320 per summer transfer window. 1342 01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:29.400 There have been some. 1343 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:33.199 Very notable signings as of late, and the sun has 1344 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:34.079 set in La. 1345 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.320 Donnie see what I did there, my guys, Sonny, I did, 1346 01:05:37.559 --> 01:05:39.400 and I can't. I'm excited. 1347 01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:41.519 He's been my favorite because you know, I'm a Spurs 1348 01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:44.360 guy and I've loved him for a long, long time. 1349 01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:47.480 In a vacuum. 1350 01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.079 What sort of effect does this have, not just for LAFC, 1351 01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:53.519 but what does this say about players willingness to look 1352 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:57.119 at MLS. 1353 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.920 As strong as ever? Rodrigo de Paul leaving Atletico Madrid 1354 01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.960 will play in Miami, you know, think about Thomas Mueller 1355 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:09.440 signing in Vancouver leaving you know, f C Byron. This 1356 01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:11.960 one's a little bit different though, because I don't think 1357 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:14.239 I know, you know, the power of Ferney with the 1358 01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:16.039 South Korean market. A guy who has one hundred and 1359 01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:19.880 thirty four international appearances for South Korea. He is he 1360 01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:25.760 is a a K pop superstar footballer and I it's 1361 01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:29.360 funny we I do the podcast, the LC Podcast of Expertos, 1362 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.199 and the moment that there was the announcement that Sonny 1363 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:36.400 was leaving Tottenham Hotspur, we were doing the podcast and 1364 01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:41.159 the jump in numbers on the podcast was extraordinary. Whether 1365 01:06:41.199 --> 01:06:47.480 it's TikTok, Instagram, Facebook or Twitter, the numbers are outlandish 1366 01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:53.480 because out the money. Don't worry about the money, the 1367 01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:55.760 twenty six twenty seven million that's spent, that's going to 1368 01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:59.480 be recouped the Jersey sales. I hope, I hope LFC 1369 01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.599 and Adidas are prepared because that black and goal number 1370 01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:07.880 seven in English and in Korean is going to be unbelievable. 1371 01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.320 They had a Hello Kiddy night at Pimo Stadium about 1372 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.880 a month ago and it was outrageous to see the response. 1373 01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:19.039 This is going to be a destination demo stadium, a 1374 01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:22.719 destination for not only the Korean fan base in Los Angeles, 1375 01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:25.599 but the Korean fan base as a whole. I think 1376 01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:29.119 it's genius. It's a messy level type impact, and that's 1377 01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.320 what I think is the most fascinating, that fans truly 1378 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:37.320 don't understand the South Korean market and this is so 1379 01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:41.000 much bigger than anybody could truly understand in real time. 1380 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:44.159 And by the way, that's a branding commercial side. On 1381 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:46.800 the field, I'm in love with Sonny. I think he's 1382 01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:50.960 fantastic as a human being. As a player, his net 1383 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.840 goal contribution goals in the sists is extraordinarily high. And 1384 01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:57.679 for anyone says, yeah, but he's thirty three, he's thirty 1385 01:07:57.679 --> 01:08:01.199 three with young man's legs, so plenty left in the tank. 1386 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:05.039 Brilliant execution from LAFC and I'm glad the deal dot done. 1387 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:08.960 Your guy Max handled that politician I don't know if 1388 01:08:08.960 --> 01:08:11.519 you saw the clip, but there was a city council woman, 1389 01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:16.399 Oh my gosh, can we not have politicians involved in signings? 1390 01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.479 They don't know their elbow from their rear. 1391 01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:21.079 So she alluded to the fact that now that it'sn 1392 01:08:21.159 --> 01:08:24.720 he's playing in LA somehow he's gonna help us win 1393 01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:27.359 a World Cup. And then Max step steps up and 1394 01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:29.520 brilliant He's like, yeah, we might get a US South 1395 01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:30.199 Korea final. 1396 01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.039 I thought your guy handled that so well. 1397 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:35.840 Del Max Man, he's the best. He's absolutely you know. 1398 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:39.319 It reminded me of when Bastin Steinsteiger signed with the 1399 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:44.840 Chicago Fire and a similar thing happened. And so this 1400 01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:48.159 is where, you know, let's I agree with you. Let's 1401 01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:50.319 just keep politics out of sports and just let sports 1402 01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:51.439 be sports. 1403 01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:51.800 No doubt, no doubt. 1404 01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:54.520 All right, before we get to some specifics with RSL, 1405 01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:56.800 we've got a couple of years sample sized with this 1406 01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:57.800 league's Cup tournament. 1407 01:08:57.880 --> 01:08:59.079 Donny, what do you make of it? 1408 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.079 What do you like what we're trying to do here 1409 01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:02.720 with MLS and League Amakis? 1410 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:05.520 Yeah, I do. I do like the adjustment to the 1411 01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:08.520 format that it is MLS versus League A mechis in 1412 01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:12.399 every single game. I think it's brilliant. I think it 1413 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:17.000 helps both sides to really understand from a business perspective, 1414 01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:21.319 from an on the field perspective, what's happening. Covering the 1415 01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:24.239 Club America game, Pablo and I talked about it's going 1416 01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:27.279 to make him and his coaching staff better because they're 1417 01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:31.439 going to understand going against Jordonay, the manager from Club America, 1418 01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.880 being one of the best in the region. You know, 1419 01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:37.399 the influence, the tactics to shape, the change of systems, 1420 01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:41.439 the substitution patterns, all of that are hugely, hugely beneficial. 1421 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:45.960 And again, I think it's naive to suggest that there's 1422 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.479 not an opportunity for maybe Club America fans that see 1423 01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:52.279 Real salt Lake beat them to say, hey, hold on 1424 01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:54.760 a second, I'm in Salt Lake City, my family, we 1425 01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:56.800 grew up Club America fans. I'm going to go out 1426 01:09:56.840 --> 01:09:58.520 and support Real Salt Lake. They're going to be my 1427 01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.479 local team. And I'm still going to support Club America 1428 01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.199 each and every time they're on television, and we can 1429 01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:06.199 go to a game and support them. So there's a 1430 01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:09.760 cross branding effect. Ahead of the World Cup next summer, 1431 01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:13.439 Mexico Canada and the United States holding games, and I 1432 01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:16.279 think within you know, my friend is my rival, with 1433 01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:19.000 my rival is my friend. I think somewhere there's a 1434 01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:24.199 conversation and the relationship between Legan Mechi's and Major League 1435 01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:27.760 Soccer to continue to evolve and grow, as well as 1436 01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.079 creating organic rivalries in the meantime. 1437 01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:32.279 How do these two leagues match up currently? 1438 01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:35.279 I think once upon a time the gap between where 1439 01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:38.479 League at Mekis was and MLS was was massive. 1440 01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:40.079 Is that gap closing? 1441 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:42.239 Do you think these two leagues are at least on 1442 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:43.720 similar footing at this point? 1443 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.520 Yeah. I think there's certain teams that have passed the 1444 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:51.399 majority of the League A Mechi's teams, but the superstar 1445 01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:55.560 teams are still the superstar teams. And you know, when 1446 01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:58.720 you talk about the monsters and the giants of Chieves, Taguadalajara, 1447 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:02.720 Pulamus Cruise, who will think about America, think about Tiga, 1448 01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:06.279 I think about Pachuca, think about Monterey, you know they 1449 01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:12.119 I think more and more you're seeing LEGA Mch's leadership 1450 01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:16.039 adopt ideas that MLS has had. I think you're seeing 1451 01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:20.399 League A Mechi's teams be really impressed with the infrastructure 1452 01:11:20.439 --> 01:11:24.039 and the spend of the way that MLS is doing things. 1453 01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:26.600 And I think more and more as these games happen, 1454 01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:29.319 there's going to be more players that their first instinct 1455 01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:31.760 would be to play for League A Mechs that are 1456 01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:34.239 now saying, hold on a second, I've played against that 1457 01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:37.319 MLS team. They're really good. I'd rather be a part 1458 01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:40.600 of that, And thinking about from a family perspective, off 1459 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:43.279 the field perspective, and what that looks like of life 1460 01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:45.520 in America. So I think a lot of things are 1461 01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:48.520 happening right now that are wake up calls for league 1462 01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:51.039 at mechis that are wake up calls for Major League Soccer, 1463 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:54.199 and overall, I think it's going to strengthen the product product, 1464 01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:55.279 both on and off the field. 1465 01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:56.560 So over to ours. 1466 01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:58.800 A couple of minutes left, I've got with you, Donnie 1467 01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:02.000 there unbere et in nine of their last ten. We'll 1468 01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:04.760 get to the new additions. But what do you most 1469 01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:06.560 attribute this recent turn of form two. 1470 01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:12.720 I think it was adapting to who they weren't, and 1471 01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.199 by that I mean the departures of Crooks, Chico Anderson, 1472 01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:22.079 Julio Andres Gomez. I thought, and I understand the ownership 1473 01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:26.279 change created its own circumstances, but Pablo was kind of 1474 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:28.119 put in a lurch to try to compete with the 1475 01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:31.920 big spenders and the strengthening of rosters at the start 1476 01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:35.079 of the season. He's adjusted. And by the way, for 1477 01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:38.119 anyone that doesn't think Pablo is very, very intelligent, he 1478 01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:41.239 and his staff in terms of tactics, just look at 1479 01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:43.279 the response of how they got the best out of 1480 01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:46.319 Paula Luiz when Brian o'haeda was away trying to get 1481 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.960 his paperwork sorted, the evolution of Diego Luna while he 1482 01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.840 was gone and coming back to a team, and now 1483 01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:56.560 you know the significant spend on both Rowan Cruz and 1484 01:12:56.640 --> 01:13:01.319 Olatunji and what that means even with maybe a couple 1485 01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:05.199 other domestic spots before this summer transfer window closes. I 1486 01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:07.239 think what Pablo and his team have done if they 1487 01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:11.560 put themselves in a position to get into the playoffs 1488 01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:15.520 when that certainly wasn't a certain It wasn't for sure. 1489 01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:19.279 And now how quickly can they adapt both the new 1490 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:21.960 players into the team. Can the new players adapt to 1491 01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:26.119 the culture, the dynamics, the training habits, and then the 1492 01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:28.960 structure and go out and be the best version of 1493 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:31.479 themselves and the reason why they were brought into play 1494 01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:32.239 for Rialso Lake. 1495 01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:37.039 So let's dig into these signings real quick. Ron Cruz, 1496 01:13:37.119 --> 01:13:39.720 we saw him last night for about thirty minutes. It 1497 01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:42.840 was a pretty quiet thirty minutes. He's brought in as 1498 01:13:42.840 --> 01:13:45.840 a DP. Pablo on the show called them a nine 1499 01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:48.920 point five somebody who can play striker but also make plays. 1500 01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:52.399 So designated player there's a purchase option at the end 1501 01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:53.159 of eighteen months. 1502 01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.199 What do you know about him? How do you think 1503 01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:55.840 you'll fit in here? 1504 01:13:57.199 --> 01:13:57.359 Yeah? 1505 01:13:57.439 --> 01:13:59.800 So a player that was a part of Botafogo's squad 1506 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:04.079 FIFA Club World Cup, didn't play, hasn't played a lot 1507 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:08.880 of minutes recently, very dynamic, high high high ceiling, spent 1508 01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:11.680 some time over in Europe, scored I think twenty four 1509 01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:14.399 goals and like fifty appearances, came back. If he's coming 1510 01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:18.680 out of Brazil, I would put him. Yeah. I would 1511 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:22.840 use the example of Colorado's hafe On Navajo, the number nine, 1512 01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:25.119 where it took him a little bit of time to adapt, 1513 01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:28.119 and once he did adapt, these last ten years two years, 1514 01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:31.600 he's been fantastic. So I'm hoping he's like Hafa Navajo 1515 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:37.439 in Colorado great size, great intelligence, great technical ability. He's 1516 01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:39.920 adapting to the teammates. The teammates are adapting to him, 1517 01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:44.000 similar to Williagatta. Similar. The good news is he's early, 1518 01:14:44.159 --> 01:14:50.119 like Chicho a Latunji, great experience in Nigerian, in Sparta Prague, 1519 01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:54.960 He's got some international understanding of what it means. He's 1520 01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:58.960 kind of a right side underneath type ish player. They 1521 01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:02.600 need that, especially with Dominic mar Chuk being nowhere near 1522 01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:05.640 the player we thought he was capable of being. So 1523 01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.199 we'll see how quickly they adapt. Still think they need 1524 01:15:08.279 --> 01:15:12.159 competition at right back. Besides that, everything else looks pretty good. 1525 01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.479 I need to see more from Diego Gonzalez. Still haven't 1526 01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:18.279 seen enough from him. But they got some tough decisions 1527 01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:21.359 to make, and we'll see as important players coming in, 1528 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:23.960 I think is as important as some of the players 1529 01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:24.399 going out. 1530 01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:27.239 So the Olatunji kid, the Victor Olatunji kid, more of 1531 01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:28.479 a natural nine. Yeah. 1532 01:15:28.520 --> 01:15:31.520 And also both these two players Doney are big and 1533 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:34.119 tall and long, and Pablo on the show a couple 1534 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:37.039 of weeks ago was kind of bemoaning the fact that 1535 01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:38.920 they just aren't a very big team. 1536 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.239 They actually just scored their first corner. 1537 01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:43.840 Of the year, and it was Ohita who suddenly is 1538 01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:45.760 like scoring goals left and right, which is wild. 1539 01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:48.159 But as far as the natural nine, how do you 1540 01:15:48.199 --> 01:15:49.399 think a tun Gi fits in? 1541 01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:52.319 Yeah, I don't know if he's a true number nine. 1542 01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:56.199 To be quite honest with him, With what I've seen 1543 01:15:56.359 --> 01:16:00.239 so far, I think he's I would probably use very 1544 01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:03.199 similar to the nine point five conversation, or maybe an 1545 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:05.960 underneath type of guy, or maybe even like on the 1546 01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:11.760 right hand side when he's facing goal, he's frightening, and 1547 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.159 that's what they're going to look Listen. You know, for 1548 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.840 Papulo talking about bodies, you know, a god has good sized, 1549 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:20.359 pole has been good size, but they need players that 1550 01:16:21.119 --> 01:16:25.520 conversion the opportunity is much higher. And you know, the 1551 01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:28.960 Coma Medica game is maybe the perfect example of the 1552 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.159 Cincinnati game, the perfect example that Willy a Gotta puts 1553 01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:35.680 himself in some great spots, but he's not a natural converter. 1554 01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:39.199 He needs three or four opportunities. And so that's effectively 1555 01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:42.640 what you're trying to buy is guys that need two 1556 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.119 chances to find the back of them, as opposed to 1557 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:47.479 guys that you have that need three to four chances, 1558 01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:50.319 So that's going to be the challenge for the two 1559 01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:51.079 new guys coming in. 1560 01:16:51.479 --> 01:16:53.479 You may have answered this question because you referenced the 1561 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:55.840 compet right back that you think needs to be there, 1562 01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:58.640 But Kurt on the show yesterday alluded to one or 1563 01:16:58.840 --> 01:17:02.680 if not two, potential additions before this window closes, which 1564 01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:04.399 I believe is in about two and a half weeks. 1565 01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:07.319 Any thoughts on where that could or should be? What 1566 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:08.199 does that look like? 1567 01:17:10.039 --> 01:17:12.600 I mean, I'm of the belief since Brooks Lennon and 1568 01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:16.479 Aaron Herrera left Real salt Lake and these are multiple, 1569 01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:20.479 multiple years that Real salt Lake has been extremely weak 1570 01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:25.319 at the right back position. You know, Andrew Brody was 1571 01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:27.560 supposed to be the guy. The body Hidalgo was supposed 1572 01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.079 to be the guy. You know, You've gone through three 1573 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:33.159 or four or five different options. Noel Kalaskin has done 1574 01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:35.600 a fantastic job, but I'm not of the belief that 1575 01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:38.920 he's a right back. Similar to when Mechanelli was being 1576 01:17:38.920 --> 01:17:40.439 played at right back, I didn't think he was a 1577 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:44.399 right back. So there's going to be players that are 1578 01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.520 experienced and that are going to be made available, and 1579 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:51.560 I'm of the belief that what this roster needs is 1580 01:17:53.119 --> 01:17:57.760 experienced MLS type of veteran guys in that locker room 1581 01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:01.920 that can help navigate some of the lesser experienced players 1582 01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:05.239 as well as some of the foreign players that don't 1583 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.279 know the riggers and the daily ins and outs of 1584 01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:10.920 what it takes in Major League Soccer. I think having 1585 01:18:11.319 --> 01:18:15.680 a couple of really experienced MLS guys are always important, 1586 01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:18.680 and I would use that example. I would use the 1587 01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:22.680 example of Toronto FC, when Toronto FC had Jaavinco and 1588 01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:25.960 they had Michael Bradley, and they had Josie Altador. They 1589 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:30.239 still have the Jonathan Messorios. They had the Beta Shores, 1590 01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.359 they had the Justin Morrows, they had the Drew Moores. 1591 01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:36.359 And I think it's a very undervalued group of players 1592 01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:39.479 that become high value type of players for a team 1593 01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:40.159 in a locker room. 1594 01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:43.319 I believe eleven matches left Dottie before the end of 1595 01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:45.319 the season before we set you loose. Do you feel 1596 01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:48.920 like this recent turn of form, combined with the additions, 1597 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:52.079 will be enough to get RSL into the playoffs and 1598 01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.560 maybe do something I'll just say somewhat interesting. 1599 01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:58.479 I think they're a playoff team with these additions. I 1600 01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.319 don't think they're a home playoff team with these editions, 1601 01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:04.439 that creates its own set of circumstances. But as I 1602 01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:07.760 said that, I would reference last year and the final 1603 01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:10.560 was LA Galaxy against the New York Red Bulls. It's 1604 01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:13.960 a different tournament once you get into the playoffs and 1605 01:19:14.239 --> 01:19:17.760 it's all about form. It's all about momentum. And the 1606 01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:23.039 idea of this weekend being a perfect example. If wealso 1607 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:24.960 LA can go to the New York Red Bulls and 1608 01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:28.279 walk away with three points, that's the type of mentality 1609 01:19:28.359 --> 01:19:31.039 that they need to start creating. It's a free hit, 1610 01:19:31.199 --> 01:19:34.399 it's out of conference, and you need to be able 1611 01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:36.880 to understand that you are going to have to be 1612 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.720 on the road in the playoffs based on that first 1613 01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:41.960 half of the season. So if you start to do that, 1614 01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:45.319 then you build yourself to confidence and the momentum necessary 1615 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:47.760 to potentially make a run at an MLS Stup final. 1616 01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:50.359 All right, my guy, I appreciate the time as always, 1617 01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:52.239 Welcome back, welcome home. 1618 01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:54.920 Go spend some time with that family and we'll chat soon. 1619 01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:57.840 Be well, okay, appreciate you, ma man, Thank you all right. 1620 01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:02.399 Brian Dunseeth Elvetts played ten years in MLS, was on 1621 01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:04.840 the Olympic team, was the captain of that Olympic team 1622 01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:08.640 and now broadcaster for Apple TV and Turner Sports, doing 1623 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:12.279 some really really big matches, including the FIFA Club World 1624 01:20:12.319 --> 01:20:15.439 Cup Final between Chelsea and PSG, which is pretty phenomenal 1625 01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:18.039 to see. 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Then we got Bengals, Eagles, Raiders, Seahawks. 1644 01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:15.359 So some pro football on your TV, and our good 1645 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:19.119 friend Sam Bruckouse stops by on a Thursday afternoon. Sam, 1646 01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:20.439 Happy Thursday, man, How you doing. 1647 01:21:21.479 --> 01:21:23.880 I'm doing good man. You kind of broke my neck 1648 01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:26.479 there with the with the Swiss and the music. We 1649 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:30.039 were playing some Rebecca Black Friday. All of a sudden 1650 01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:32.600 in the tribe called quest I like the range spence there. 1651 01:21:32.520 --> 01:21:34.359 To go, Well, I've got to give my producer the credit. 1652 01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:37.880 Supporter gets the credit there. Hey Sam, what if anything 1653 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.439 can we learn when we sit down to watch these 1654 01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:42.039 preseason games starting tonight. 1655 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:46.840 Yeah. So we talked about this with some general managers, 1656 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:49.720 some x scouts and coaches on the Summer Sports Show, 1657 01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:52.920 which you can find on YouTube. We got some excellent 1658 01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:57.199 video packages. Go subscribe at suomer Sports on YouTube. And 1659 01:21:57.279 --> 01:21:59.319 I think the thing you really want to pay attention 1660 01:21:59.479 --> 01:22:02.840 to is after those kind of first stringers come out, 1661 01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:06.840 when do people get into the game. Because the coaches 1662 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:09.279 are sitting there and they have evaluations that they want 1663 01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:12.199 to have, and they're not just sending people in willy 1664 01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:16.439 nilly or sending in packages. There's times and places in 1665 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:19.079 which they want to see these players play. So one 1666 01:22:19.119 --> 01:22:22.039 of the things that Mike mccagnan, an external manager who 1667 01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:24.680 had to make these tough decisions, particularly when it came 1668 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:28.439 to cutting people and who was on the borderline, was 1669 01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:30.560 when they got in the game and who they were 1670 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.199 playing against. And so a lot of the time you'll 1671 01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:36.600 find that if a guy starts getting increasing reps in 1672 01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:40.159 these preseason games against the twos, that they may be 1673 01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:44.600 a player who may be being considered for a starting position. 1674 01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:47.880 But interestingly enough, we found out Spence that a lot 1675 01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:50.239 of the time the guys that are probably going to 1676 01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:53.319 be on the practice squad, who may be getting raved 1677 01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:56.479 about in practice, may actually be getting hidden. And so 1678 01:22:56.640 --> 01:22:59.000 some of the guys who are really contributing on special 1679 01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.359 teams but on the stretch of the game, are getting 1680 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:03.039 in late, they may actually still end up on your 1681 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:06.560 practice squad roster. A lot of interesting mechanics from the 1682 01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:10.000 coaches and general managers, but I think today, in particular 1683 01:23:10.119 --> 01:23:12.640 the Colts, we'll actually get to see a quarterback battle. 1684 01:23:12.640 --> 01:23:15.319 We'll get to see both Daniel Jones and any Richardson 1685 01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:18.239 trying to play high level football. And I'm excited about that. 1686 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:19.520 What do you think gets that job? 1687 01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:21.319 That's where I was going to go next, because you know, 1688 01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:24.000 some of the games tonight actually do have some intrigue. 1689 01:23:24.039 --> 01:23:26.880 And you know, we're not going to see Lamar, we 1690 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:29.359 won't see Burrow. You know, we're not going to see 1691 01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:31.640 like the big name dudes whose jobs are saved. But 1692 01:23:31.720 --> 01:23:33.279 at the end of the day, when the dust settles, 1693 01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:34.960 who's under center for the Colts this year? 1694 01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:40.439 It's a great question as compared to last year, where 1695 01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:43.359 it was, you know, a bunch of quarterbacks who weren't 1696 01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:46.199 necessarily in the mold of Anthony Richardson behind him. They 1697 01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:48.840 now have two quarterbacks who can run the ball as well, 1698 01:23:48.960 --> 01:23:51.359 Daniel Jones obviously coming in from the New York Giants, 1699 01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:54.239 and then Riley Leonard, the Notre Dame product to college 1700 01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:56.359 football fans out there in Utah may remember, was in 1701 01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:59.920 the college football playoffs. I'm really intrigued. I think it's 1702 01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:03.439 still probably Anthony Richardson's jobs to lose. I think he 1703 01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:06.640 is the most talented quarterback. Last year, he really did 1704 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:09.560 an excellent job of pushing the ball down the field. 1705 01:24:09.960 --> 01:24:12.079 He just couldn't put it together with his accuracy. I 1706 01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:15.640 think if he can improve marginally throughout the preseason on 1707 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.520 his accuracy downfield, it really changes the calculus, even if 1708 01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:22.399 he still misses some of those short and intermediate throws 1709 01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:26.039 given the scheme that Shane Stiken likes to run. But 1710 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:28.960 I'm really looking at Riley Leonard as well. This was 1711 01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:30.920 a guy who, while he was at Duke was looked 1712 01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:34.720 at as more of a first round prospect. After you know, 1713 01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:37.439 a season that didn't necessarily work out exactly how they 1714 01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:39.720 wanted to at Duke and then a season where he 1715 01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:41.720 struggled to kind of put it all together in the 1716 01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:45.439 passing game. Was but was an excellent runner at Notre Dame. 1717 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.319 I'm interested to see if he can, you know, do 1718 01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:51.039 what Shane Stiken needs him to do in the preseason, 1719 01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:54.760 maybe jump up to the two spot going into the season, 1720 01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:57.640 either behind Daniel Jones or Athy Richardson, or ultimately become 1721 01:24:57.680 --> 01:24:59.920 the starter. I actually think there's a better probability to 1722 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.479 all three of these players get core reps in this game. 1723 01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:05.439 Been't necessarily just the top two. 1724 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:09.479 Any intrigue on the Raven side of things preseason style 1725 01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:12.920 there second in the Vegas odds to win the Super Bowl. 1726 01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:16.560 I've got the this is DraftKings Bill's first Raven second. 1727 01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:20.079 But it feels like Harbo's got a group that he 1728 01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:22.600 knows what sort of hand he'd been dealt. So maybe 1729 01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:24.560 this is just kind of like a stay healthy type thing, 1730 01:25:24.640 --> 01:25:27.479 and he intrigued to watch the h to watch the 1731 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:28.239 Ravens tonight. 1732 01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:31.000 Yeah, I was about to say, I think the biggest 1733 01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:34.960 intrigue may be their sports betting odds on the AFC 1734 01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:37.960 title or on the Super Bowl. But a thing that 1735 01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:40.760 I really am going to closely look at is going 1736 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:43.880 to be their back end depths. They added Malachi Starks 1737 01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:46.600 at the free safety position and then also on their 1738 01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:49.359 front line depths. People forget that this team did not 1739 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:53.520 get off to the shiniest start last year. It took 1740 01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:56.800 a while for their defense, particularly their pass defense, to 1741 01:25:56.880 --> 01:25:59.239 get right. They made a couple of shifts, playing Nate 1742 01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:02.720 Wiggins more, moving Marlon Humphrey to the slot, and then 1743 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:05.079 also on the offensive line, some of the young young 1744 01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:08.199 players kind of came along as well as Ronnie Stanley 1745 01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.199 at the left tackle position being able to be healthy 1746 01:26:11.239 --> 01:26:14.239 all year. Look at some of those frontline depth players. 1747 01:26:14.279 --> 01:26:16.880 If they're starting to get pushed, that's a good signal 1748 01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:20.520 for them long term, especially if you see guys like 1749 01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:23.000 Ronnie Stanley a little bit older start to go down, 1750 01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:24.840 and then I'm really going to be king in on 1751 01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:27.039 that back end to see if any of those guys. 1752 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:28.159 Have a lot of juice. 1753 01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:30.399 Should the defense start to struggle again. 1754 01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:33.319 I'm gonna see the Bengals in the Eagles tonight in Philly. 1755 01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:35.760 It feels like the Bengals are kind of like this 1756 01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:39.119 in vogue, pick to do something special this year because 1757 01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:43.439 their Super Bowl odds are pretty low. Obviously they're solid 1758 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.479 under center. But I've heard a lot of people when 1759 01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.159 it comes to where the odds but the Bengals to say, 1760 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:52.840 keep an eye on Cincinnati Philly, just like the Ravens 1761 01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:54.800 and the Bills. As I reference, they're one of the 1762 01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:57.039 top three teams to win the Super Bowl according to 1763 01:26:57.159 --> 01:26:59.359 Vegas at plus seven hundred Accordiona FanDuel. 1764 01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:02.680 That's right beyond in Buffalo and Baltimore. So what do 1765 01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:05.800 you be looking for? Matchup two tonight? Cincinnati Philadelphia. 1766 01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:10.039 I think the Eagles have by far the best roster 1767 01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:13.800 in the league. I think the Lions do rival them, 1768 01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:16.439 but the Lions I don't think have the defensive depth. Now, 1769 01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:19.279 if you told me this last year, I wasn't a 1770 01:27:19.319 --> 01:27:22.119 big believer in the Eagles defense going in. I could 1771 01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:24.520 see some regression happening. They had a lot of rookies 1772 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:27.720 and guys like Zach Bond who were basically signed off 1773 01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:30.399 the scrap heap that played quite frankly, to an all 1774 01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.800 pro level, which is very rare. I could see some 1775 01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:36.159 regression there. But with the Bingals in particular. I think 1776 01:27:36.279 --> 01:27:39.279 my friend Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports said it best. 1777 01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.239 If you believed in the early aughts Colts, then I 1778 01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:45.960 can understand why you believe in the Bengals. They have 1779 01:27:46.079 --> 01:27:49.640 two excellent wide receivers in Jamar Chase and t Higgins, 1780 01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:52.600 and the quarterback is good. They have a pretty good 1781 01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:55.079 running back as well in Chase Brown, and an offensive 1782 01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:57.239 line that for the most part does its job. The 1783 01:27:57.359 --> 01:28:01.640 defense just very very badly struggles. And me and Lindsay Roads, 1784 01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:04.520 my co host of the Summer Sports Show, we're discussing 1785 01:28:04.640 --> 01:28:07.760 kind of the fantasy outlooks on these players, and I 1786 01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:10.720 think last year we just saw such a strange year 1787 01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.760 from the Bengals. I think it's probably possible that the 1788 01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.359 defense could just get slightly better, because it can't get 1789 01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:20.680 much worse than last year. But I wouldn't necessarily expect 1790 01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:23.199 to Mar Chase or Joe Burrow to have, you know, 1791 01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:27.640 the super duper top tier seasons that they had last year. 1792 01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:31.760 Both of those were career and quite frankly, almost historically 1793 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:35.039 great years, So I think there's kind of a mishmash. 1794 01:28:35.159 --> 01:28:37.479 I don't think they're going to be wildly better than 1795 01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:39.720 they were last year. But last year they were an 1796 01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:43.159 extremely competitive team down the stretch, and I like to 1797 01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:45.800 bet on good quarterbacks and good wide receivers. So I 1798 01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:49.560 wouldn't put them in the top tier of surprise teams, 1799 01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:52.560 or even in the top tier of teams that would 1800 01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:54.680 even make it maybe out of the wild card round. 1801 01:28:55.039 --> 01:28:57.439 But I do think that they will continue to be competitive, 1802 01:28:57.560 --> 01:29:00.079 especially given that we may see an off year the 1803 01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:01.880 Steelers and the Browns in the AFC North. 1804 01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:04.720 The night cap tonight we could call the Pete Carroll 1805 01:29:04.760 --> 01:29:07.359 Bowl or the Gino Smith Bowll. I suppose up at 1806 01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:10.119 lumin Field where the Raiders and the Seahawks will We'll 1807 01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:14.479 go at it. Sam Donald fourteen wins with Minnesota year ago. 1808 01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:17.640 He's now a Seahawks, so same question. And we got 1809 01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:19.640 a lot of Raider fans in this market as a 1810 01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:22.640 result of their move by proximity. They're the closest NFL 1811 01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:25.199 team we have the Salt Lake. Any intrigue with these 1812 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:27.039 two tonight up at Loominfield in Seattle. 1813 01:29:28.039 --> 01:29:29.960 Yeah. The two things that I'm going to watch bar 1814 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:33.319 Nune is Number one, how much is offensive coordinator Clint 1815 01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:37.680 Kubiak going to run the ball with the Seattle Seahawks offense. 1816 01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:40.920 Last year, this was a team under Ryan Club, who 1817 01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:44.720 is now at Alabama, was previously with Michael PENNOCKX at Washington, 1818 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.600 slotted in for one year as the offensive coordinator with 1819 01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:51.720 new coach Mike McDonald. With the Seahawks, they passed the 1820 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:55.000 ball over expected as compared to down and distance and 1821 01:29:55.079 --> 01:29:58.960 time on the clock more than any team in the league. 1822 01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:02.239 Now Clint Kubiak is coming in and they ran the 1823 01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:05.399 ball more than expected, more than almost every single team 1824 01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:07.800 in the league. I think they want a power offense. 1825 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:10.239 I want to see if that is the direction they 1826 01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:13.600 are going in preseason because it will really change how 1827 01:30:13.680 --> 01:30:16.640 we do Sam Darnold or Jackson Smith and Jigba or 1828 01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:19.960 Kenneth Walker some of the offensive pieces they have on 1829 01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:22.640 the Raiders side of the ball. I'm looking at if 1830 01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:25.880 they can have any weapons for Gino Smith outside of 1831 01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:29.119 Brock Bowers and potentially Michael Mayer the two tight ends 1832 01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:31.479 as well. If we can start to see some juice 1833 01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:34.359 with the wide receivers, I think it shows, you know, 1834 01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:36.840 a little bit of a little bit of shining light 1835 01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:38.960 for a Raiders team that hasn't seen a ton of 1836 01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:40.359 success in the last couple of years. 1837 01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:43.640 Shooter Sanders is going to get the start preseason Game one, 1838 01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:48.079 that is tomorrow in Charlotte against the Panthers. They've just 1839 01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:50.680 signed Tyler Huntleye who played his college ball a mile 1840 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:53.479 from where I'm broadcasting now. They just signed Snoop, so 1841 01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:57.039 they've got like five quarterbacks on the roster. What do 1842 01:30:57.079 --> 01:30:59.760 you make of Shador getting the start Game one? Does 1843 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:01.600 that say anything to you and you think there's a 1844 01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:04.000 chance he's gonna start Game one in the regular season. 1845 01:31:05.079 --> 01:31:08.159 I am super excited for this. As the person who 1846 01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:12.680 was talking all draft season about how we don't necessarily 1847 01:31:12.800 --> 01:31:15.800 know which quarterbacks are good who. Once he started dropping 1848 01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:19.560 or saying that, you know, the consensus typically sticks, and 1849 01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:23.000 he was like the twentieth best player. I am extremely 1850 01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:25.640 intrigued by this. I just wish it would have been 1851 01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:29.960 against a different team, because the Panthers spent all off 1852 01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:34.359 season loading up on defensive front deaths. So they're gonna 1853 01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:38.199 be trotting out Princely Umin Mialen, the rookie from Florida 1854 01:31:38.279 --> 01:31:40.319 by way of Ale Miss. They're gonna be trotting out 1855 01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:42.439 Nick score Ten, the rookie from next A and M, 1856 01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:46.119 with the twos and the threes, against Shador Sanders, who 1857 01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.359 will also be behind, you know, kind of a rebuilt 1858 01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:52.039 Brown's offensive line. I think the Panthers are going to 1859 01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:55.720 try to really press the gas with the twos and 1860 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:57.960 the threes and see what those young players can do, 1861 01:31:58.439 --> 01:32:00.720 and I hope that shape Shaedor can. I think it's 1862 01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:03.640 going to be a true test of how the difference 1863 01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:06.159 in system from Colorado, where he was kind of asked 1864 01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:08.039 to do everything and as a result took a ton 1865 01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:12.800 of sex, moving to a more NFL style, Kevin Stefanski 1866 01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:16.439 style offense, which has won Kevin Stefanski two Head Coach 1867 01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:19.079 of the Years, has made Joe Flacco look good at times, 1868 01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:21.640 has made Baker Mayfield look good at times. And let's 1869 01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:25.479 see if he can minimize those negative plays and particular 1870 01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:29.720 sex against a Panthers team who has extremely invested in 1871 01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.479 a defensive front and really wants to get after him. 1872 01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:36.159 How do you think that Ben Johnson Caleb Williams marriage 1873 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:38.119 is going to work? You know, I'm not one to 1874 01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:42.439 dismiss her anoint based off of a social media video 1875 01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:44.640 going around where he made a couple of bad throws 1876 01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:46.920 in practice. And Caleb was a Pac twelve kid. We 1877 01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:48.600 saw him playing saut Lake quite a bit. I know 1878 01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:52.039 he has his detractors. I know he has his supporters. 1879 01:32:52.119 --> 01:32:54.439 Ben Johnson, you know, we know the deal with his 1880 01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:59.000 background and his reputation as an offensive guru. Feels like 1881 01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:01.600 this is a marriage that has a lot of potential 1882 01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:03.720 if things go right. Ye are you bullish on the 1883 01:33:03.760 --> 01:33:04.640 Bears at all this year? 1884 01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:09.159 So? I thowt a really interesting graft today from a 1885 01:33:09.239 --> 01:33:12.960 statistician on Twitter named Joseph Bryan, and he ran like 1886 01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:16.119 a thousand simulations of how the season could go and 1887 01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:20.479 Caleb William's distribution for this season is pretty flat in 1888 01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:23.560 that you know, on average, she'll be about an average quarterback. 1889 01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:26.159 He'll probably do what he did last year. But it 1890 01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:28.720 could go really really good or it could go really 1891 01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.279 really bad. And I think a lot of people when 1892 01:33:31.319 --> 01:33:34.000 they hired Ben Johnson, when they brought on Joe Toney, 1893 01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:38.119 rebuilt the offensive line, drafted Colston Lovelin, got him some 1894 01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:41.119 more weapons, just immediately thought this Bears team was going 1895 01:33:41.239 --> 01:33:44.720 to be substantially better. I am of the mind that 1896 01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:48.239 it could be more of the same or worse as 1897 01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:51.640 it stands. And here is my kind of argument. The 1898 01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:54.840 only person I think we can really trust to be 1899 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:58.840 quite a bit better at their position is Joe Toney. 1900 01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:01.079 We've seen Joe Touney do it on multiple teams. We've 1901 01:34:01.119 --> 01:34:03.159 seen him be an All Pro last year. I think 1902 01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:07.359 he is an excellent addition to that offensive line. However, 1903 01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:11.840 the offensive line wasn't necessarily the problem last year. Research 1904 01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:17.359 shows that quarterback sacks or a quarterback stat quarterbacks do 1905 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:20.000 have an element of control over that. Caleb was one 1906 01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:22.880 of the most sacked quarterbacks in the league last year, 1907 01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:25.840 and I wouldn't really expect that to change a similar 1908 01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:29.680 wide receiver group, some changes across the offensive line. People 1909 01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:32.720 viewed Jonah Jackson coming in as their new right guard, 1910 01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:35.359 who was with Ben Johnson at the Lions and was 1911 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:37.720 almost a pro bowler, but then he went to the Rams, 1912 01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:40.239 couldn't even get on the field. Sean McVay wouldn't even 1913 01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:42.399 play him. So I think there's a lot of spots 1914 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:45.520 where people think this team has gotten miraculously better, and 1915 01:34:45.640 --> 01:34:48.119 I think they've really kind of stayed the same, maybe 1916 01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:50.239 outside of the play caller position. I think a lot 1917 01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:52.560 of the pressure is on Ben Johnson, and I think, 1918 01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:56.039 as you said, that partnership will maintain. I'm a little 1919 01:34:56.079 --> 01:35:00.640 bit more bearish than bullish. The most people bullish on 1920 01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:01.479 the Bears this year. 1921 01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:06.319 Tell me your expectations of cam Ward Year one Tennessee Titans. 1922 01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:08.760 You know, it was an interesting quarterback class. There was 1923 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:11.159 a debate for a while, then cam Ward sailed to 1924 01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:14.479 the top and it appeared to be a consensus. You know, 1925 01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:17.439 he's He's got Calvin Ridley and Tyler Lockett. He has 1926 01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:20.840 some experience as far as weapons go. But realistic expectations 1927 01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:22.000 year one for Cameron. 1928 01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:26.439 Ward, Yeah, So realistic expectations for a first round quarterback, 1929 01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:30.199 typically they get about twelve starts, whether that's because of 1930 01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:34.560 injury or because of someone else coming in, or in 1931 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:37.439 the case of cam Ward, ideally he'll play all seventeen games. 1932 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:41.279 So we'll see what happens. Typically we see slightly above 1933 01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:45.159 a slightly positive touchdown the interception ratio, but very slightly. 1934 01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:48.319 I'd expect him to have, you know, maybe fifteen touchdowns, 1935 01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:50.880 but eleven picks or something like that seems like a 1936 01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:54.479 stat line that makes sense. Quarterbacks are a multi year project, 1937 01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:57.600 especially when you're coming into a situation like the Titans 1938 01:35:57.640 --> 01:36:01.399 where frankly, they're probably going to have the highest probability 1939 01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:04.399 of being the number one pick next year as well, 1940 01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:08.079 unlike kind of the Bears were the year prior, and 1941 01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:11.079 so I think we can expect a lot of them, 1942 01:36:11.159 --> 01:36:13.319 you know, as mad rating is like a seventy two, 1943 01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:16.720 I think that's a little low. As just in terms 1944 01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:19.640 of a consensus ranking. I'd expect him to have an 1945 01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:22.960 okay year, but I wouldn't expect him to really, you know, 1946 01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:26.640 lift the boat of the Tennessee Titans, especially as it 1947 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:30.640 pertains to an AFC South where you have two excellent 1948 01:36:30.680 --> 01:36:33.399 pass rushers on the Jacksonville Jaguars and two excellent pass 1949 01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:36.439 rushers on the Texans and two excellent defensive tackles on 1950 01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:39.399 the Colts. Some pretty good defenses. I'm not expecting the 1951 01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:40.560 world of cam Ward this year. 1952 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:42.600 Let's stick with some rookie conversations. 1953 01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:45.520 Also saw Travis Hunter play out this way as he 1954 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:48.159 was a Pac twelve kid then a big twelve kid 1955 01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:52.119 with Colorado, and Jacksonville is going to play him both ways. 1956 01:36:52.199 --> 01:36:54.399 I guess you don't trade, well, you trade, you know, 1957 01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:56.680 to get him to just use him as a receiver. 1958 01:36:57.399 --> 01:36:59.720 How long do you think this lasts? Is it sustainable? 1959 01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:02.079 Can try Avis Hunter actually do this in pro football? 1960 01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:05.800 So I do think that he's not going to be 1961 01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:09.520 leaned on as the wide receiver. One. Everything we've heard 1962 01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:13.039 from Liam Cohen has been that Brian Thomas Junior, the 1963 01:37:13.199 --> 01:37:15.920 wide receiver out of LSHU, who had an excellent rookie year, 1964 01:37:16.279 --> 01:37:19.239 will be the focal point of the Jaguars offense. And 1965 01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:21.159 I think that aligns with what he did with the Bucks. 1966 01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:23.359 Mike Evans was the focal point of that offense. They 1967 01:37:23.399 --> 01:37:25.560 got the running game going a little bit with Bucky Irving, 1968 01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:29.079 and so I'd expect that Travis Hunter plays more of 1969 01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:32.680 like a Chris Godwin role at the most on offense. 1970 01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:34.880 They've said that he's going to play probably about eighty 1971 01:37:34.920 --> 01:37:37.239 percent of the offensive snaps and be an offensive player 1972 01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:39.880 first and then go to defense. I think that is 1973 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:43.960 a good expectation. I am very interested to see in 1974 01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.720 the preseason how he is played as a defensive corner 1975 01:37:48.039 --> 01:37:51.800 because while he was at while he was at Colorado's Spence, 1976 01:37:51.880 --> 01:37:54.840 you saw it yourself. He was a lockdown corner, like 1977 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:57.359 he was a guy who would be on a side 1978 01:37:57.439 --> 01:38:00.039 and cut the entire side of the field off. So 1979 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:02.239 I guess that's not how they intend to use him, 1980 01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:04.760 even though I think that is how he's probably best used. 1981 01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:07.000 I wouldn't be shocked if he's used in the nickel 1982 01:38:07.079 --> 01:38:09.399 or the dime a little bit more as a package player, 1983 01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:12.960 or if there's a quality matchup, particularly with a very 1984 01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:16.000 talented wide receiver two as the season goes on, if 1985 01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:19.079 he's utilized in that way. But I think that probably 1986 01:38:19.159 --> 01:38:21.159 the Chris Godwin mold is what he's going to be 1987 01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:23.920 in for the long term, and then add in a 1988 01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.760 sprinkling of defense, at least as it looks currently, who do. 1989 01:38:27.800 --> 01:38:30.640 You like Offense, Defense, Rookie of the year, Give me 1990 01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:32.399 a name for each side of the football. As far 1991 01:38:32.479 --> 01:38:34.600 as Rookies Day you're keeping your eye out for. 1992 01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:38.800 I'm really interested in Tedor Rogan macmillan. Everything I've heard 1993 01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:41.520 out of Panthers camp has been that he has kind 1994 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.199 of separated himself as the wide receiver one. He's starting 1995 01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:47.319 to earn more target share, and I think that's really 1996 01:38:47.439 --> 01:38:52.720 the key piece that the Panthers need, is that quality 1997 01:38:52.920 --> 01:38:56.119 target earner wide receiver one to make Bryce Young make 1998 01:38:56.199 --> 01:38:58.399 the jump. So I think Tedor rog McMillan is going 1999 01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:00.239 to be interesting. Obviously, you got to look at some 2000 01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:03.720 of the quarterbacks that are starting, Cameron Ward obviously as well, 2001 01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:06.479 but I think the person with the chance to be, 2002 01:39:07.119 --> 01:39:10.359 you know, an absolute game breaker this year is probably 2003 01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:13.000 going to be ted Rodan millan. On the offensive side 2004 01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:15.319 of the ball, obviously a lot of great offensive linemen 2005 01:39:15.359 --> 01:39:18.079 as well. They typically don't win, but that was kind 2006 01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:20.479 of the crux of this draft. And I just think 2007 01:39:20.520 --> 01:39:26.600 there's so many good edge rushers out there. I struggle 2008 01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:29.439 to pick one, but I could see, you know, the Falcons, 2009 01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:34.039 James Piercer, Jalen Walker, standing out. Finally, the Falcons getting 2010 01:39:34.119 --> 01:39:37.079 a defensive end, them making the jump on the other 2011 01:39:37.199 --> 01:39:39.600 side with Michael Pennox, and all of a sudden they're 2012 01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:42.239 a playoff team and two of those guys have ten 2013 01:39:42.319 --> 01:39:44.680 plus sacks. I think it's going to be an edge 2014 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:46.439 rusher on the defensive side of the ball, and you 2015 01:39:46.479 --> 01:39:48.560 can kind of take your pick in the first or 2016 01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:51.000 second round of which edge rusher it might be. And 2017 01:39:51.079 --> 01:39:53.159 then I'm really looking at tedro and McMillan on the 2018 01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:54.920 offensive side of the ball as someone who could have 2019 01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:55.680 a breakout year. 2020 01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:57.640 Let me ask you about a couple of local storylines. 2021 01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:00.319 Jordan Love played his college ball Utah State, and after 2022 01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:02.640 sitting behind Aaron Rodgers for a few years, he gets 2023 01:40:02.680 --> 01:40:04.800 the job. And I would say it's been really, really 2024 01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:09.039 good without anything excellent in the postseason. Do you think 2025 01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:11.159 this is the year that they take that next step 2026 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:12.880 and maybe win a couple of playoff games. 2027 01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:17.319 I think that if there's any year, it's this year, 2028 01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:20.760 because I think you look at that NFC North, the 2029 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:23.960 Vikings are starting what functionally as a rookie quarterback. I 2030 01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:26.479 know that people aren't necessarily thinking of it that way, 2031 01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:29.239 but JJ McCarthy has never played a snap in the NFL, 2032 01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:31.279 and moreover, he didn't get a ton of practice time 2033 01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:33.920 last year because he was injured for most of the year. 2034 01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:36.800 I think that could be a real, real setback for 2035 01:40:36.920 --> 01:40:39.079 that team if he's unable to play well and they 2036 01:40:39.079 --> 01:40:42.159 don't have, you know, an absolute ton of depth behind 2037 01:40:42.279 --> 01:40:45.359 him either at the quarterback position. It's an excellent Vikings roster, 2038 01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:48.000 but you kind of come and go as the quarterback goes. 2039 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:51.039 And we saw, particularly when the tackles got injured, Sam 2040 01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:53.720 Darnold really kind of tanked down the stretch of the 2041 01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:56.399 season last year. I have them slotted as the third 2042 01:40:56.479 --> 01:40:59.600 best team behind Jordan must Packers, and obviously we talked 2043 01:40:59.600 --> 01:41:01.520 about the I think it could be a down year 2044 01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:04.560 as well. I think in the NFC, you don't have 2045 01:41:04.720 --> 01:41:07.000 to deal with the big three, you don't have to 2046 01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:10.079 deal with Alan Mahomes or Jackson, and as a result, 2047 01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:12.039 I think anyone can kind of make a run. I 2048 01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:14.520 think with a young defense led by a guy that 2049 01:41:14.640 --> 01:41:17.000 I think could be an all pro Edrin Cooper at 2050 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:19.479 the linebacker position on the Packers, I think their defense 2051 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:22.359 could take a step up. I believe in Lafleur in 2052 01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:24.920 that offense that he's gonna put Jordan Love in a 2053 01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:26.800 good situation to make plays, and I think it's up 2054 01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:29.359 to the wide receiver and tight end group for someone 2055 01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:31.760 really to become a target earner. If that happens, I 2056 01:41:31.840 --> 01:41:34.680 think this could be the year for them, particularly if 2057 01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:37.920 they can overcome or just miss in the NFC playoffs. 2058 01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:38.720 The Detroit Lions. 2059 01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:41.199 Jackson Dharr didn't play his college ball round here, but 2060 01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:43.920 he played his high school ball about twenty miles south 2061 01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:45.159 of where we're broadcasting. 2062 01:41:45.319 --> 01:41:48.159 You think he you think he'll start this year? And 2063 01:41:49.039 --> 01:41:50.600 if so, how long do you think that takes? 2064 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:54.119 I think it's tough to say. Like I said, first 2065 01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:59.119 round quarterbacks typically do start about twelve games. I don't 2066 01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:00.920 know if this is going to be the case for them. 2067 01:42:01.039 --> 01:42:04.159 I think that Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson are both 2068 01:42:04.560 --> 01:42:07.359 at least trusted veterans there could be trusted to go 2069 01:42:07.439 --> 01:42:10.479 in a starting game, start a game, and be competitive. 2070 01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:13.159 It sounds like this is Russell Wilson's job this year, 2071 01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:16.960 and I don't necessarily see him starting and less kind 2072 01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:19.840 of things start tanking in the season. The Giants have 2073 01:42:19.880 --> 01:42:22.319 an excellent front seven on the defensive side of the ball, 2074 01:42:22.359 --> 01:42:24.760 and they have some talent at the wide receiver position 2075 01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:27.479 with elite neighbors, It's going to be interesting to see. 2076 01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:30.119 Russell Wilson has been known to take sacks and take 2077 01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:33.319 some negative plays, but I think injury or just an 2078 01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:36.800 absolute bottom caving out, I don't necessarily see Jackson Dart starting. 2079 01:42:37.279 --> 01:42:38.720 I'm going to ask you about the other New York 2080 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:41.159 team because they're my team and I'm a long suffering 2081 01:42:41.239 --> 01:42:43.119 Jet fan, as you know, can you give me any 2082 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:45.239 hope that this year will be anything other than just 2083 01:42:45.279 --> 01:42:46.079 a dumpster fire? 2084 01:42:47.239 --> 01:42:50.079 So here's the hope is this team is actually pretty talented. 2085 01:42:50.119 --> 01:42:52.680 The consensus is is that the offensive line is pretty good. 2086 01:42:52.760 --> 01:42:55.720 Garrett Wilson is to believe to be a quality wide 2087 01:42:55.760 --> 01:42:59.800 receiver one. The running back room is deep with Brief 2088 01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:03.760 at the top, who I think is didn't necessarily perform 2089 01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:05.960 to how people wanted him to last year, but with 2090 01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:09.399 Braylen Allen behind him, I think that's a pretty good tandem. 2091 01:43:09.720 --> 01:43:12.439 And then the defense has some star talent as well 2092 01:43:12.560 --> 01:43:15.800 that both linebackers are excellent, Quinn Williams on the defensive 2093 01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:18.600 line and Sauz Gardner at the quarnerback position are all 2094 01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:22.279 very very talented players to pretty talented ed rushers as well, 2095 01:43:22.279 --> 01:43:26.239 and Will McDonald obviously had kind of made a jump 2096 01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:29.159 last year. The question is the quarterback position, and I 2097 01:43:29.239 --> 01:43:33.239 think that Aaron Glynn and Tanner Ink should the crew 2098 01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:35.880 coming in from the Lions, will do whatever it takes 2099 01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:38.199 to make this offense move the ball, whether that's going 2100 01:43:38.279 --> 01:43:41.199 for it liberally on fourth down or what I'm most 2101 01:43:41.239 --> 01:43:44.800 excited about is running the quarterback. I think, regardless of 2102 01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:47.520 who is at the quarterback position, if they are unable 2103 01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:50.680 to throw the ball, the quarterback design run game will 2104 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:54.520 be heavily, heavily utilized by this team, especially if things 2105 01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:57.239 kind of start to stagnate on the offensive side of 2106 01:43:57.279 --> 01:44:00.359 the ball. And we frankly haven't seen that quite a 2107 01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:04.640 while from really any team in the NFL outside of 2108 01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:07.720 the Baltimore Ravens, and I'm really excited for that. I 2109 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:09.920 think that this could be a year where we see 2110 01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:14.000 like eight to ten carries per game designed for the quarterback. 2111 01:44:14.039 --> 01:44:15.760 I think it's going to be really interesting. It's going 2112 01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:18.560 to keep them in games, and so I could see 2113 01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:21.039 this team being about a five hundred team, but that's 2114 01:44:21.439 --> 01:44:23.800 I wouldn't be willing to say anything over that. 2115 01:44:24.640 --> 01:44:28.239 How does this, Michael Parsons, Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys, the 2116 01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:30.439 soap opera, and how do you think this plays out? 2117 01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:33.720 I got I got one note for you, forty two 2118 01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:36.199 million dollars. That's how it ends. Forty two million dollars 2119 01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:39.880 a year in Michael Parson's pocket. There's no way that 2120 01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.119 he is not going to remain a cowboy. 2121 01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:43.399 At least is I see it? 2122 01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:45.920 In fact the way I see it Spence's I think 2123 01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:49.079 a conspiracy is happening. I think Jerry knows that he 2124 01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:51.960 can get everyone talking about the Dallas Cowboys, which he's 2125 01:44:52.359 --> 01:44:55.439 smiling like the Sheshire Cat anytime a microphone is in 2126 01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:58.399 front of him, and Michael Parsons realize that he can 2127 01:44:58.439 --> 01:45:01.439 get more people to listen to his post cast by 2128 01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:04.199 kind of milking this and taking it all these crazy terms. 2129 01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:06.560 This ends with forty two million dollars in his pocket. 2130 01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:10.359 I was on Radio Row when Miles Gearrett said he 2131 01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:12.760 would never play for the Cleveland Browns ever again, and 2132 01:45:12.840 --> 01:45:15.479 they had disrespected him, and there were people following him. 2133 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:18.800 And he's a massive guy, six five, three hundred pounds 2134 01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:22.359 walking through with microphones on him. Guess what, forty million 2135 01:45:22.399 --> 01:45:25.720 dollars hit his checkbook will hit his check book this year. 2136 01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:27.159 It's going to be the same for Michael Parsons. 2137 01:45:27.399 --> 01:45:28.880 Wonder your thoughts on it. 2138 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:32.560 It's always a tough thing to make serious inroads in 2139 01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:35.000 pro football and go from bad to good, and then 2140 01:45:35.039 --> 01:45:37.600 it's even harder to go from good to grade. Can 2141 01:45:37.680 --> 01:45:39.880 we see the Commanders go from good to grade this year? 2142 01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:43.439 Based off of their editions and that dynamic young quarterback 2143 01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:46.439 who we also had out here in our pack twelve footprint. 2144 01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:51.520 I think it's very possible given the profile that Jade 2145 01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:54.600 Daniels put out last year. You know, we saw CJ. Stroud, 2146 01:45:54.640 --> 01:45:56.279 who was the Rookie of the Year the prior, to 2147 01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:59.119 regress a little bit. I don't think that's going to happen, 2148 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:01.760 just because of the that Jane Daniels can run the ball, 2149 01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:04.000 and I think to the way that defenses have to 2150 01:46:04.119 --> 01:46:07.479 approach that kind of changes how they approach an offensive 2151 01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:10.920 line which has lost Sam Cosmy but added the all 2152 01:46:10.960 --> 01:46:14.239 pro level talent in Laramie Tunsell. I am a little 2153 01:46:14.279 --> 01:46:16.319 worried about the age of this team. They're one of 2154 01:46:16.359 --> 01:46:18.720 the oldest teams in the league. They're going to be 2155 01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:22.239 relying on Frankie Louvu and Bobby Wagner, who Bobby Wagner 2156 01:46:22.319 --> 01:46:24.039 was an All Pro last year, but frankly I thought 2157 01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:26.840 he had kind of lost a step as the games 2158 01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:30.239 kind of went on. I'm a little worried about that. 2159 01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:32.920 But this is a team that is built to win now. 2160 01:46:33.279 --> 01:46:36.239 They went ahead and added Deebo Samuel, they added Laramie Tunsell, 2161 01:46:36.439 --> 01:46:39.920 They've added pieces like von Miller across the defensive line. 2162 01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:43.119 I could see them really challenging. It's just going to 2163 01:46:43.159 --> 01:46:45.119 be really tough in the NFC East, where I think 2164 01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:47.479 the Cowboys are really good. I think the Eagles are 2165 01:46:47.479 --> 01:46:50.079 one of the best teams in the league, and you know, 2166 01:46:50.159 --> 01:46:52.720 the Giants have a couple pieces, they have a tough schedule. 2167 01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:57.039 I could see them probably playing up to snuff. But 2168 01:46:57.119 --> 01:46:59.159 it's really on the back of if Jane Daniels can 2169 01:46:59.199 --> 01:47:01.199 be an excellent player, and I'm inclined to believe that 2170 01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:05.119 he can. I think they are solidly, solidly a top 2171 01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:07.520 ten to fifteen team in this league. 2172 01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:10.279 Before I say you lose, He's no longer my problem. 2173 01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:13.079 Good ridden Saron Rodgers but he's now a Steeler. How 2174 01:47:13.079 --> 01:47:13.960 do you think this looks. 2175 01:47:15.359 --> 01:47:17.760 I think it looks different than it looks with the Jets. 2176 01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:19.640 With the Jets, he was kind of able to do 2177 01:47:19.760 --> 01:47:22.560 whatever he wanted. He was sitting back there in the shotgun, 2178 01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:24.920 letting the clock run down and trying to pick apart 2179 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:27.439 the defense pre snap. Don't think that's going to be 2180 01:47:27.479 --> 01:47:30.479 the case. They added John hu Smith and Author Smith, 2181 01:47:30.479 --> 01:47:33.319 the offense coordinator favored at the tight end position. They 2182 01:47:33.399 --> 01:47:36.399 added a zone running, big running back in the mold 2183 01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:39.840 of Derrick Henry and Caleb Johnson from Iowa. And I 2184 01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.640 think this is going to be a true Author Smith 2185 01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:44.880 Steelers offense. I think there's going to be a lot 2186 01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:46.840 of running the ball. I think there's going to be 2187 01:47:46.880 --> 01:47:49.319 a lot of deep passes. And I think Aaron Rodgers 2188 01:47:49.399 --> 01:47:51.359 is going to be more in the vein of the 2189 01:47:51.399 --> 01:47:54.199 wiley veteran at the sticks of what the offenseve coordinator 2190 01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:57.079 wants to do than necessarily it was last year where 2191 01:47:57.159 --> 01:48:01.039 he was kind of at the controls. That could change 2192 01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:04.000 on a dime, But everything that they've made around Aaron 2193 01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:06.439 Rodgers shows me that they want to run the ball 2194 01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:09.800 heavily and play Steelers kind of smash mouth offense as 2195 01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:11.720 compared to the way that Aaron Rodgers has played in 2196 01:48:11.760 --> 01:48:14.439 the past. And frankly, you know, we saw when he 2197 01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:17.279 played Matt Lafleur's level of ball he won two MVPs. 2198 01:48:17.319 --> 01:48:19.640 I'm not at all predicting that. I just think he'll 2199 01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:22.720 be substantially, you know, in a better position or a 2200 01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:26.359 position that's not necessarily his own, to make his bed 2201 01:48:26.720 --> 01:48:29.359 for himself as compared to previous years. 2202 01:48:29.840 --> 01:48:31.880 Sam, where can our listeners go find your work pal? 2203 01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:35.760 Yeah, so go check us out and subscribe at suomer 2204 01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:40.239 Sports on YouTube. We'd have some excellent visuals on there, 2205 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:42.760 and in particular the Suomer Sports Show we talked about 2206 01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:45.960 MADD ratings with analyst E. J. Snyder and Brett Coleman. 2207 01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:48.359 That came out today, and you can catch all the 2208 01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:52.079 latest news at sumer Sports or on the Suomer Sports 2209 01:48:52.079 --> 01:48:53.399 Show wherever you find podcast. 2210 01:48:53.640 --> 01:48:55.359 Thanks for the time, Bob, excited to have you on 2211 01:48:55.439 --> 01:48:56.880 all year. Be well with chat soon. 2212 01:48:57.800 --> 01:48:58.560 Thank you all so much. 2213 01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:03.199 All right, Sam Bruckhaus, good stuff. Pro football preseason starts tonight. 2214 01:49:03.279 --> 01:49:06.840 We've got three NFL preseason games. Of course, is we're 2215 01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:09.479 inching closer and closer to the regular season, wrapping it 2216 01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:11.960 up for a Thursday show, fun show today. A lot 2217 01:49:12.039 --> 01:49:15.239 going on NFL preseason football tonight. You've got three games 2218 01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:18.359 going on as we are inching closer and closer to 2219 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:20.520 the start of the regular season. But if you're looking 2220 01:49:20.640 --> 01:49:22.520 kind of quench that thirst, you can check out some 2221 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:28.880 NFL football tonight. Colts in the Ravens going on right now, Bengals, Eagles, Raiders, 2222 01:49:29.039 --> 01:49:34.319 and Steelers. Tomorrow night it's the Lions, Falcons, Browns, Panthers, Commanders, 2223 01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:38.159 and Patriots. So a bunch of NFL preseason action on 2224 01:49:38.359 --> 01:49:41.159 the docket tonight. Some rough news if you're a Chargers fan. 2225 01:49:42.399 --> 01:49:45.239 Ray Sean Slater is out for the season and he 2226 01:49:45.439 --> 01:49:50.000 just signed the richest contract in the history of offensive linemen. 2227 01:49:50.079 --> 01:49:52.319 He has a patella rupture, so he is gone for 2228 01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:56.239 the year. So some rough news there. Rory McElroy sitting 2229 01:49:56.439 --> 01:49:59.479 at the FedEx Saint You Championship. So the sixty nine 2230 01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:02.319 best golf in the world I went out of today 2231 01:50:02.439 --> 01:50:05.199 Round two gets rolling tomorrow. Tony Feno's tie for twenty 2232 01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:09.159 seventh one under par Porter. How much money would you 2233 01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:13.279 pay for a top shelf Master's hospitality. 2234 01:50:12.640 --> 01:50:17.199 Package to go to Augusta. How much would I pay? 2235 01:50:17.880 --> 01:50:20.039 Would you pay? Two hundred and nineteen thousand dollars? 2236 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:20.199 No? 2237 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:23.880 Okay, nor could I? Well, I guess I could maybe 2238 01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:24.359 get a loan. 2239 01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:27.399 Well I wouldn't you know. Don't go get a loan 2240 01:50:27.600 --> 01:50:29.399 just to then go to Augusta. That would be an 2241 01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:31.159 unwise economic move. 2242 01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:38.079 Maybe borrow against some assets I could so according to well, 2243 01:50:38.119 --> 01:50:39.720 you tell me I can't go to Augusta. 2244 01:50:39.479 --> 01:50:42.479 Well, I mean you you can go to Augusta, but 2245 01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:46.359 if you want their top shelf hospitality package. The Sports 2246 01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:49.520 Business Journal reviewed a brochure for what's called quote the 2247 01:50:49.600 --> 01:50:55.199 Official Master's Hospitality Program. According to the brochure, the program 2248 01:50:55.399 --> 01:51:00.960 offers a host home for forty five thousand dollars let's 2249 01:51:00.960 --> 01:51:04.880 see one hundred thousand dollars for the week, private transportation 2250 01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:08.000 for fifteen thousand, which includes a weekly driver and either 2251 01:51:08.119 --> 01:51:12.319 an suv or a sprinter van. Full scale private home program, 2252 01:51:13.359 --> 01:51:17.039 so the sample total in this obviously I think it 2253 01:51:17.159 --> 01:51:18.000 includes passes. 2254 01:51:18.840 --> 01:51:19.640 It runs for two. 2255 01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:22.800 Hundred and nineteen six hundred dollars for the week, eight guests, 2256 01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:25.880 three waves of packages of the golf course. The amenities 2257 01:51:25.920 --> 01:51:28.159 include two homes, the host home, as I said, a 2258 01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:32.520 sleeper home, daily cleaning and fresh so for daily cleaning, 2259 01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:36.640 fresh linens, and transportation, it's twenty nine thousand dollars. I 2260 01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:39.960 don't know who's cleaning that house. They'll stock your pantry 2261 01:51:40.039 --> 01:51:42.359 for six grand. You get a full time staff member 2262 01:51:42.439 --> 01:51:46.760 for thirteen thousand, catering for twenty three point five tea times. 2263 01:51:46.760 --> 01:51:49.279 A golf course is thirteen point five and a twenty 2264 01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:54.359 percent service fee for thirty six thousand, six hundred dollars 2265 01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:57.520 to go to Augusta and see the Masters in style. 2266 01:51:57.720 --> 01:52:01.640 Yeah, I might if I ever see the Masters live. 2267 01:52:01.720 --> 01:52:04.720 It might be the credential route. That's probably not too 2268 01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:09.000 likely either. Maybe I can get our our guy Marcomera 2269 01:52:09.199 --> 01:52:10.319 to sneak me in. 2270 01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:11.119 I don't really know. 2271 01:52:13.039 --> 01:52:16.239 I will say that it doesn't it's it's a big number, 2272 01:52:16.399 --> 01:52:19.199 let's be clear. Doesn't surprise me that much because I've 2273 01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:22.359 kind of seen the let's say, the money that's thrown 2274 01:52:22.399 --> 01:52:26.600 around at just like a member guest tournament at Park 2275 01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:29.960 City or you know, in in Hebrews somewhere. The money 2276 01:52:30.319 --> 01:52:37.079 on golf courses is big. It's not a new thing. 2277 01:52:37.960 --> 01:52:41.159 Yeah, that seems a little aggressive. I've never been to Augusta. 2278 01:52:41.680 --> 01:52:43.920 I would very much like to go. I don't think 2279 01:52:43.960 --> 01:52:47.319 I would do it like that. Maybe just a day 2280 01:52:47.439 --> 01:52:49.600 pass there you go where I can just go experience it. 2281 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:50.800 Because here's the other thing. 2282 01:52:51.439 --> 01:52:53.399 You have to get one of the sandwiches, though, what 2283 01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:56.560 is it? I think cheese or something like forty dollars, 2284 01:52:56.600 --> 01:52:59.039 but you got no, no there, they're actually cheap. Oh 2285 01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:01.119 they've kept the sandwich is reasonable. 2286 01:53:02.039 --> 01:53:02.319 Okay. 2287 01:53:02.640 --> 01:53:04.520 Yes, the weird thing about Augusta is you get the 2288 01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:07.479 pomenta cheese sandwich for like two bucks. Then you might 2289 01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:10.359 get a vodka soda for seventy nine to ninety nine. Okay, 2290 01:53:10.600 --> 01:53:13.199 but no, give me like a day pass because here's 2291 01:53:13.560 --> 01:53:16.359 also I always say this, playing golf is better than 2292 01:53:16.399 --> 01:53:17.319 watching golf. 2293 01:53:17.560 --> 01:53:20.399 And watching golf on a golf course. I don't know 2294 01:53:20.439 --> 01:53:22.279 if you guys have ever done it before. That means 2295 01:53:22.319 --> 01:53:24.279 you get to watch like one hole, You get to 2296 01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:28.039 watch one player go walk by. Maybe you watch. Maybe 2297 01:53:28.039 --> 01:53:29.800 you find a spot with like a good view of 2298 01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:33.880 a of a green somewhere, or you paid a bunch 2299 01:53:33.960 --> 01:53:36.560 and your you know you're sitting near a green. You're 2300 01:53:36.600 --> 01:53:39.319 not watching every hole. You're not watching like the story 2301 01:53:39.399 --> 01:53:42.920 of the round develop you're hearing cheers off in the distance. You're, 2302 01:53:43.520 --> 01:53:45.760 you know, kind of trying to figure out what's going 2303 01:53:45.800 --> 01:53:48.359 on on the course around you. It's it's not it's 2304 01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:49.600 not like other sporting events. 2305 01:53:49.720 --> 01:53:53.680 Yeah, I think I'd like to go to Augusta, see 2306 01:53:53.800 --> 01:53:57.079 one round, walk the grounds, and then maybe go play 2307 01:53:57.159 --> 01:53:58.800 golf the next day. I don't know that I need 2308 01:53:58.880 --> 01:54:02.000 to watch four rounds of gold, certainly not at the 2309 01:54:02.039 --> 01:54:05.199 price tag of two hundred and nineteen thousand dollars. 2310 01:54:06.119 --> 01:54:07.560 So there you go, little golf. 2311 01:54:08.560 --> 01:54:10.920 Let's see, we got pennant races in baseball if you're 2312 01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:14.520 looking for something. But yeah, preseason NFL football tonight on 2313 01:54:14.680 --> 01:54:17.880 your television. And we are just three weeks in change 2314 01:54:17.920 --> 01:54:21.039 away from the start of college football, three weeks from Saturday, 2315 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:25.359 both Utah BYU and we should say Utah State in action. 2316 01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:27.920 So we are right right there. 2317 01:54:27.960 --> 01:54:31.079 We're gonna have our welcome welcome event for the Utah 2318 01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:33.439 football season coming up next Wednesday. We should have some 2319 01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:35.840 details for you guys about that coming up next week, 2320 01:54:36.720 --> 01:54:38.880 Reporter before we get out of here for a Thursday 2321 01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:40.880 edition of the show What Comes Our Way? 2322 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:42.800 On a Friday edition of the program on a. 2323 01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:46.119 Friday edition of the show. You mentioned it three weeks 2324 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:49.880 from college football. Our guy Trevor Riley is going to 2325 01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:52.880 stop by the program. Aaron Fulk's going to stop by 2326 01:54:52.920 --> 01:54:56.000 the program of the Salt Lake Tribune, as is his 2327 01:54:56.560 --> 01:55:01.119 manion Jason Batakiao, paulp. Hugmyer up by the show to 2328 01:55:01.199 --> 01:55:04.119 talk some golf, and we may have some sound from 2329 01:55:04.199 --> 01:55:05.119 up at Fall Camp as well. 2330 01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:09.800 And reminder if you're just looking for camp sound this 2331 01:55:10.199 --> 01:55:12.279 time of year, when you're waiting for Utah football to 2332 01:55:12.319 --> 01:55:15.319 come back, it's a one stop shop at ESPN seven 2333 01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:18.399 hundred sports dot com. 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