WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.280 Merry Christmas everyone. The tech bros want to take away 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:08.839 your jobs by importing all of our engineers from India. 3 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.320 That's right. We've somehow over the last day or so 4 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:18.800 here we spent Christmas, those of us who are terminally 5 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:23.280 chronically online and trolling on Twitter for radio show ideas 6 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:30.039 like yours. Truly, we've been spending all of Christmas. I 7 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:34.159 guess avoiding our families. Well I haven't been, but avoiding 8 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:40.600 our families and yammering about immigration stuff. And this seems 9 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:46.679 to have been kicked off by Elon Musk. Now, Republicans 10 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:49.399 got to be kind of clear eyed about Elon Musk, 11 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:52.679 and it might just be like this is we're dancing 12 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:56.880 with the one who brought us. Political parties are a 13 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:00.119 function of a lot of things. They are a pro 14 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.799 of the voters and what the voters want, but they 15 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:12.000 are also largely a product of what donors want. And 16 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:17.120 there is no one person who has the potential to 17 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:24.079 be a bigger force of Republican donor money than Elon Musk, 18 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:30.480 literally the richest man in the world, whose net worth 19 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:37.000 is estimated to be about four hundred and eighty six 20 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.719 billion dollars. All Right, the guy has more money than 21 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:45.439 we can fathom. He's got more money than George Soros. 22 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:48.879 He's got more money than every This guy might have 23 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:56.480 more money than every big time Republican donor combined. And 24 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:00.480 we've seen that he if he believes in something, he's 25 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:04.879 willing to plunk down the cash. The guy bought Twitter 26 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:11.159 for forty billion dollars because he was like, Hey, I 27 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:14.280 think it's lame that this social media site censors people. 28 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.199 We should have a more free exchange of ideas. So 29 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.439 I'm going to plunk down forty billion greenbacks. I'm going 30 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:26.800 to buy it. And he did. He actually did it. 31 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:29.719 It started as a joke and now it's real. So 32 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.719 if he says something and now that he's sort of 33 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:37.400 really thrown his support behind Donald Trump and has said 34 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.639 stuff like I want to continue to be a major 35 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:47.080 player in American electoral politics for Republicans, I want to 36 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:51.080 be I mean, I want to be the George Soros 37 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.039 of the right. I mean that's what he said. He 38 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.120 a comment like that was made at a rally at 39 00:02:56.159 --> 00:03:00.479 mar A Lago where someone the speaker at the question 40 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.039 who is the George Soros of the right, and Elon 41 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.319 Musk was there in the crowd and raised his hand 42 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:11.800 like that that's what he wants to be. So a 43 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:20.919 lot of this centers around H one B visas. Now, 44 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:24.439 what is an H one B visa. Here's the US 45 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:27.840 Department of Labor overview of the H one B program. 46 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:32.159 The H one B program applies to employers seeking to 47 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:40.719 hire non immigrant aliens as workers in specialty occupations or 48 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:43.599 as fashion models of distinguished merit and nobility. Okay, so 49 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:47.280 it's for fashion models and then workers in specialty occupations. 50 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:51.000 A specialty occupation is one that requires the application of 51 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:54.159 a body of highly specialized knowledge and the attainment of 52 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.199 at least a bachelor's degree or its equivalent. The intent 53 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:00.719 of the H one B provisions is to help employers 54 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.520 who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities from 55 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:08.800 the US workforce by authorizing the temporary employment of qualified 56 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.000 individuals who are not otherwise authorized to work in the 57 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:18.160 United States. And what we're seeing is Elon expressing the 58 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:22.240 viewpoint that is common throughout Silicon Valley that they want 59 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:26.720 to bring in H one B immigrants as engineers. And 60 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:31.279 Elon keeps saying on Twitter, you know, the rate limiting 61 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.759 factor for Silicon Valley is the lack of skilled engineers. 62 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:38.360 We should expand the H one B program. We should 63 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:45.879 bring in more people from India wherever to help fill 64 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:52.040 these engineering jobs. Now I'm a little skeptical of this. 65 00:04:52.680 --> 00:04:56.240 It's weird how the Trump coalition which included sort of 66 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:03.000 these elon enthusiasts on the one hand versus the elon 67 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:10.160 enthusiasts over here, but also the Trump hardcore folks on 68 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:12.959 immigration over there who have hated the H one B 69 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.560 visa program for a long time, have thought it was 70 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:19.000 over crowded with too many people that were bringing in, 71 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:25.480 which which actually reduces slots and opportunities for American jobs. 72 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.480 The way Musk is framing the issue is basically as 73 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:33.079 if there is an infinite pool of jobs out there 74 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:35.800 and that we just don't have enough engineers and so 75 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:40.639 we have to bring in more engineers from India. The reality, 76 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:45.639 I think is not how he describes it, though clearly 77 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.319 there are lots and lots of people in Silicon Valley 78 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.279 in the last two years who got laid off from 79 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.639 their jobs at these various big tech companies. I mean, 80 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.680 maybe Musk is talking about in a boom time, you 81 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:00.800 need a lot more. But I think the characterization of 82 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.720 the tech job market as basically we have this infinite 83 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:09.319 supply or this infinite need, rather this infinite demand for 84 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:13.959 qualified engineers that we must fill, And really I don't 85 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.600 know that that's true. I think this is the thing 86 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:20.040 if we're taking on as a major Republican influencer and 87 00:06:20.120 --> 00:06:25.279 donor someone like Elon Musk. Now, are there many things 88 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:30.079 good about Elon Musk? Sure, I'm encouraged that maybe he's 89 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:34.360 going to be progressively more pro life and be willing 90 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:39.000 to fund pro life things, and his stance on abortion 91 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:44.680 seems to be sort of shifting in positive ways. But 92 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.000 he is, at the end of the day, a CEO, 93 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:54.879 and the interests of the CEO class versus the interest 94 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:01.279 of the American worker are always going to be somewhat 95 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:06.360 in conflict. He seems to agree with Trump with sort 96 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:13.000 of the Trump hardcore immigration base about Latin American immigration 97 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:16.240 and the ways in which it is taking certain kinds 98 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:19.560 of jobs away, But then he turns around for the 99 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:21.879 industry that he's a part of, for the tech industry, 100 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:27.560 he wants to import tons and tons of immigrants for 101 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:33.959 the sake of something he cares about. Now, are there 102 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:39.240 differences between a legal expansion of a legal program of 103 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:44.040 temporary workers versus the kinds of waves of people just 104 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:49.399 literally walking across the border, presenting themselves with phony asylum claims, 105 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:52.319 allowing those people to get into the country, you know, 106 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:53.959 setting them up for a court date that they're never 107 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:57.920 going to show up for. Okay, Yeah, obviously I think 108 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.959 the one is more harmful than the other. But at 109 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:05.120 the same time, what's the motivation from corporate America to 110 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:08.600 be in favor of immigrant of sort of unchecked immigration 111 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.600 on both those fronts, both from you know, Mexican Latin 112 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.839 American immigration coming across the border and or overstaying their visas, 113 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:23.959 but also endless numbers of H one B visas. The 114 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:29.959 motivator is a cheaper labor force. All right, nothing's new 115 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.559 under the sun. The interests of management versus the interests 116 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.960 of labor are always going to be in conflict over 117 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.279 how much you pay your labor. All right. Labor wants 118 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.360 more pay, Management wants to pay labor less. The less 119 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:47.200 management pays labor, the more profit, And the interests of 120 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:50.000 management have always been what's the benefit to the shareholders, 121 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:59.200 so that that is fundamentally just there that that that 122 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:03.480 that interest on the part of management capital, if you will, 123 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:10.519 versus labor. That fight is kind of inherently sort of 124 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:15.080 there within the structure of most American businesses, and what 125 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:19.919 Musk is sort of now, is Musk wrong to point 126 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:22.960 out that there are a lot of really talented engineers 127 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.840 in India, be really cool if we could get some 128 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.039 of them. Okay, no, he's not wrong. I'm sure there 129 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:29.919 are a lot of really talented engineers in India. It 130 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:31.279 would be really cool if we could get a lot 131 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:34.120 of them to work here in the United States. Is 132 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:37.360 he wrong to point out, Hey, the American education systems 133 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:42.720 not that good. We're not producing as many talented engineers, 134 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.600 math science, whatever graduates as we should be. He's not wrong, 135 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:53.480 He's not wrong to point that stuff out. But it's 136 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:58.919 also you know, let's be real about the economics here. 137 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.159 Probably don't have to pay an H one B visa 138 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.960 holder as much as you pay a kid fresh out 139 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:13.039 of Stanford or cal I mean, that's almost certainly true. 140 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:17.279 And you you know, or an H one B visa 141 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:21.279 holder who's you know, thirty years old, who's you know, 142 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:26.159 eight or nine years out of university. You certainly have 143 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:28.440 to pay that person less than you have to pay 144 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.080 a thirty year old who's eight or nine years out 145 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:37.519 of you know, Stanford or cal or cal Tech. Definitely 146 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:42.519 pay them less than that. And I guess that's the 147 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:47.720 you know that that that's the problem with all this. 148 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.360 You're bringing in more and more of these H one 149 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:59.720 B visa holders. And it's also you know a couple 150 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:03.320 of things to understand about illegal immigration. Yes, a lot 151 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.919 of it is the dramatic scenario of someone crossing the 152 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:12.159 border unlawfully. I was talking with an immigration attorney who 153 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:17.399 was telling me that, you know, all these anyone who's 154 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:22.600 getting across the border unlawfully, they're paying the cartel, in 155 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.000 some cases thousands and thousands of dollars to get them across. 156 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:29.519 And there's a you know, the cartel is making money 157 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.679 off of almost every single one of these people who's 158 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:36.720 making it across the border. So obviously that's a dramatic 159 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:40.399 active illegal immigration. But about half of illegal immigrants are 160 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:45.080 here or something around there, are here because they overstay 161 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:51.120 their visas. And there is this fundamental problem. There is 162 00:11:51.480 --> 00:12:02.080 not an unlimited number of jobs bringing in immigrants is 163 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:08.240 being supported by people in corporate America, not out of 164 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:13.360 altruistic desires to lift up the benighted masses of the 165 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:16.159 third world to give them the glorious opportunities of the 166 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:19.000 American dream. That's not the motivation for it. The motivation 167 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:24.279 for it is we want to bring in cheap labor. Now, 168 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:29.519 I'm not saying no immigration whatsoever, but I don't think 169 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:37.240 unlimited expansion of legal immigration is necessarily the wisest and 170 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.879 most just thing to do. And we have to kind 171 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:44.000 of take this historical perspective of how open the United 172 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:50.039 States has been to immigration and how bizarrely generous we've 173 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.360 been in letting people come here under illegal quasi illegal, 174 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:59.919 initially legal but then overstaying their visas means we've been extraordinary, 175 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:04.240 really generous in a way that I don't think the 176 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:12.000 dictates of justice require. And I think part of having 177 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:20.919 an actual country that has an actual national character, that 178 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:24.039 actually is trying to look out for the interests of 179 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:27.519 its citizens, that the interests of our lawmakers should be 180 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:33.399 different from the interests of our business tycoons, that no, 181 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.360 actually we do need to look out for our own citizenry. 182 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.759 We have a certain obligation to our own citizenry first, 183 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:53.240 for our America born and raised or naturalized American citizen workers, 184 00:13:53.279 --> 00:14:00.399 our American stand for grads, Harvard grads, Caltech grads, Berkeley grads, etc. 185 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.759 Who are wanting to go into engineering, that we do 186 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:09.840 need to have some kind of eye towards preserving them 187 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:14.600 and their jobs and making sure that corporate America isn't 188 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:17.840 going to just bypass them and leave them in the 189 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:23.759 dust in favor of an unlimited you know, just numerically speaking, 190 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:28.720 relatively speaking, just a never ending supply of H one 191 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:35.720 visa holders coming in from India or from China or 192 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:40.080 from wherever. I don't know if China is quite qualified here. 193 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:41.879 I know India is kind of the paradigmatic country for 194 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:47.399 this program. And that's the thing with this Elon Musk 195 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:52.399 alliance is it's going to be a double edged sword 196 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:55.759 when we return. I want to talk about, Yes, it 197 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:58.759 is a double edged sword with him, but like it 198 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:02.679 or not, I think this is the dance partner the 199 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:04.799 GOP is going to have for quite some time. That's 200 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:09.039 next on the John Jrwardy Show. One last note on 201 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:13.799 immigration policy stuff as the Internet fueled by Elon Musk 202 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:17.440 talking about This has been embroiled with debate over H 203 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:20.960 one B visas, whether we should expand H one B visas, etc. 204 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:27.559 I've heard some people do that that basically, any time 205 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:34.440 a liberal sees a conservative say, hey, maybe we should 206 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:39.679 constrain this aspect of American immigration policy, that aspect of 207 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.919 American immigration policy. Hey maybe we need better border security here. 208 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.399 Hey maybe we don't need to further expand the H 209 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:53.200 one B visa program, you immediately get hit with people saying. 210 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.679 Well, it's so ridiculous how people who are only here 211 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:02.360 because of immigration would be trying to prevent other immigrants. 212 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:04.679 Don't you remember that you're an immigrant too. 213 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:08.840 Oh, And then they'll take someone's last name and be, oh, 214 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:12.279 your last name is, uh, what's a Girardi. Oh let's 215 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.360 take Girardi. Okay, Oh your last name's Girardi. Yeah, that's 216 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:19.240 because your grandparent whatever was it was an immigrant. So 217 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.039 here you are trying to stop other people from immigrating. 218 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:34.200 All right, let me address that. The fact that someone 219 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.679 in my ancestral line was an immigrant, which is true 220 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:44.200 of basically everybody in America, is I think not relevant 221 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.799 for the rest of eternity. It doesn't mean that because 222 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:53.320 I had some immigrant that from here on out going forward, 223 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.559 no one who had some immigrant in their family tree 224 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.559 is allowed to favor any kind of verse, is allowed 225 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.399 ever again in the future, to favor of any kind 226 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:06.680 of restriction on immigration, as if the fact of being, 227 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:12.920 the fact of being born of immigrant stock means that 228 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:16.119 you must be for the rest of your life an 229 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:20.640 advocate on behalf of all immigrants. I stand before you 230 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:25.319 as a representative of all what are my different ethnic backgrounds. 231 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:30.599 My dad is was half Irish and half Italian, and 232 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.440 my mom was a big mix of a million different things, 233 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:36.680 that therefore I must be an advocate for all of 234 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:42.240 these different immigrant groups. No, because I am not any 235 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.519 one of those different immigrants, especially for someone like me 236 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.680 who I've got, you know again, Irish Italian. I think 237 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.119 my mom's mom has like kind of had a lot 238 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:57.519 of Swedish. My mom's dad was like quote scotch Irish, 239 00:17:57.519 --> 00:17:59.559 which you know, I'm thirty seven years old. I still 240 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:02.079 have no idea what quote scotch Irish means to all 241 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:04.480 these people who say they are quote scotch Irish, as 242 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:06.640 if there was just a big pool of Scottish people 243 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:09.319 and Irish people who perfectly intermixed with each other to 244 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:12.200 produce quote scotch Irish, I don't even know what it 245 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:20.799 means anyway, regardless, No, I'm an American. I was born here, 246 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:23.559 my parents were born here, my grandparents were born here. 247 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.559 You have to go back to my great grandparents generation 248 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.400 to find someone who wasn't born here. And furthermore, even 249 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:38.920 if even if my parents were immigrants, even if I 250 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:42.079 was a naturalized American citizen who was not born here, 251 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:51.920 I am now of this place and the interests of 252 00:18:52.640 --> 00:19:00.319 myself and and more importantly, my fellow citizens. There is 253 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:05.119 a reasonable ordering of concern that a country and its 254 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:08.359 citizenry are supposed to have for their fellow citizens before 255 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:15.599 they get to the needs of other people. Caring about 256 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:20.880 this country and its economic benefit and its success and 257 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:27.799 it's proper flourishing in virtue, in material success, in whatever, 258 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.559 is a proper sort of ordering of our loves, a 259 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:37.920 proper ordering of our cares and concerns. To say that 260 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.119 I have to be an immigrant advocate for the rest 261 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:46.079 of my life, which means I guess maximal liberal openness 262 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:48.680 towards any immigrant who wants to walk across the border 263 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.680 with no concern about how that might impact existing citizens, 264 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.680 our existing economy, our ability to handle such immigrants. You know, 265 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.799 all of that. I have to just disregard that for 266 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:07.119 the rest of my life. That's silly. It also makes 267 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:12.039 a mockery of the idea of assimilating. Okay, Yes, the 268 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:16.759 American story is one in which immigration plays a massive 269 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.200 part in the success stories of immigrants are beautiful and 270 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:24.680 inspiring and noble things, but assimilation is a big part 271 00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:31.240 of that. Becoming an American is part of the American 272 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:39.359 success story. It's not just coming here and staying as 273 00:20:39.400 --> 00:20:43.920 whatever you were. The beauty of the American success story 274 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.640 is coming here and becoming a proud American who integrates 275 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.559 within their community and society and flourishes and preserves maybe 276 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.480 some of the beautiful things of their cultural heritage whatever 277 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.960 from the old Country, but becomes part of this societ. 278 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:05.359 Like the classic ugly example of that not happening are 279 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:09.359 Italian gangsters and mobsters, okay, who came here and. 280 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:14.200 Instead of integrating into American cultured society, decided to keep 281 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:20.759 on doing the same old country protection business schemes that 282 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:22.000 they were doing in Sicily. 283 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:32.839 That was not successful. American integration. So the notion that 284 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:37.400 because you're no, you should support H one B visa 285 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.000 holders coming to America because your great grandfather came to 286 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.839 America on a boat. Okay, my great grandfather came to 287 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:46.279 America on a boat. That doesn't mean I now have 288 00:21:46.359 --> 00:21:54.599 to turn off my moral political reasoning when I look 289 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:59.319 at questions of immigration for my country. I'm not an 290 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:05.480 Italian anymore, all right. The level of my italianness is. 291 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:10.599 I took a little Italian in college. I enjoy Americanized 292 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:14.119 Italian food. I'd like to visit Italy someday. That's about it. Though. 293 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.359 That's about it. I'm not an Italian. I am fundamentally 294 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:26.880 an American. That's it. So don't give me this nonsense that, oh, 295 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.279 you need to have the words of the words of 296 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:32.160 the Statue of Liberty. You can bring me your poor 297 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:35.359 huddled masses you have to forever and ever because your 298 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.880 great grandfather came here on a boat, that therefore you 299 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:43.640 have to support every maximal liberal accommodationist let them all 300 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:47.680 in immigration policy. I just absolutely no, fundamentally no, I 301 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:51.039 am not an advocate on behalf of all immigrants, nor 302 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:53.359 do I need to be, And That doesn't mean I'm 303 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:58.000 a heartless, unfeeling person who doesn't care about the ability 304 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:59.640 of other people to come to American make a better 305 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:01.799 life for them. So of course I want people to 306 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:04.000 have that opportunity. It doesn't mean, though, that you have 307 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:11.519 to have unlimited, unrestricted immigration. When we return Elon Musk 308 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:17.200 versus Mackenzie Scott, which direction will we go? That's next? 309 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:21.599 On the John Girardi Show. For a long time, Republicans 310 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:26.960 complained about two things within electoral politics. The one thing 311 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:31.599 was we could never get young people to vote for Republicans, 312 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.440 and the other was that we could never get billionaires 313 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:45.000 to support Republicans, like mega ultra George Soros esque level billionaires. Yeah, 314 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.400 we had the Koch brothers, but they were kind of 315 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:50.839 the exception rather than the rule. And Democrats have Democrats 316 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:55.640 out fundraised Donald Trump all three of his elections. Well 317 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:00.960 enter the twenty twenty four election, and what happened. Young 318 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:06.279 men shifted massively in favor of Donald Trump. So it 319 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:10.000 seems like gen Z voters are, if anything, far more 320 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.200 conservative than you would expect. And there is a kind 321 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:16.599 of conservatizing trend that seems to happen to every electorate 322 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:21.359 every generation. I think marriage makes people inherently more conservative. 323 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:24.119 Marriage and having a job makes people inherently more conservative. 324 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.039 So we have this generational shift, but also we get 325 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.839 all of a sudden falling from the sky seemingly into 326 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:39.400 Republican's lap is Elon Musk. Now, I think there are positives, 327 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:41.839 as I've been talking about throughout the show, I think 328 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:46.119 there's pluses and minuses to this alliance. And this is 329 00:24:46.359 --> 00:24:49.559 seemingly the alliance that's going to be for Republicans. Elon 330 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.880 Musk has demonstrated he's going to be a massive player. 331 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.920 This little fight that we had about the Continuing Resolution 332 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.680 to avoid a government shut down, now we had the 333 00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:05.519 week before Christmas. Who was the chief player in it? 334 00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:07.680 It was Elon Musk. It was Elon Musk going on 335 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:13.839 Twitter saying, I think the Republicans supporting this continuing Resolution, 336 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.960 this is terrible and this is a huge, massive bill. 337 00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:24.720 It's way too much money and we should stop it. 338 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.240 And Mike Johnson had already gotten it all ready to go. 339 00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.519 It was all laid out, fifteen hundred pages of left 340 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.720 wing giveaways, and Musk more or less stopped it, replaced 341 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.920 it with a much through his influence, A much smaller 342 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:39.559 bill got passed. It just kind of keeps the government open. 343 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:41.759 It doesn't give Trump everything you wanted. I think Trump 344 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:46.359 wanted to completely kick the whole debt ceiling debate away 345 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:49.720 from his presidency, which that's not happening. But you know, 346 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:55.160 it was a much, much, much smaller bill. Musk is 347 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.039 here to stay. Clearly, he's clearly going to be this 348 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:02.920 massive player in Republicans politics going forward. And you're going 349 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.119 to see the left. Let me just prepare you for this. 350 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.359 You're going to see the left crying about this like 351 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:13.279 crazy and talking about dark money as Musk starts funding 352 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:17.799 more conservative leaning nonprofit groups. They've already been crying like 353 00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:22.400 this about Leonard Leel, the former head of the Federalist Society, 354 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.480 who's sort of overseeing billions of dollars for different conservative causes. 355 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:28.599 They're going to start crying like this about Musk, and 356 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:32.519 they're going to start calling it dark money, his dark 357 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:38.359 money network of organizations designed to support conservative causes. And 358 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.279 when Republicans do it, it's dark money. When liberals do the 359 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:44.799 same thing, I'll describe what this thing is. When liberals 360 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:48.640 do it, it's a strategically giving to an interconnected series 361 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:52.440 of nonprofits packs and five oh one C four's designed 362 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.519 to help advance left wing causes in ways that are 363 00:26:55.559 --> 00:27:01.079 philanthropically sound. That's what George Soros has done. Let me describe, 364 00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:08.720 let me describe this landscape. What George Soros did was 365 00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:15.559 he created this interlinked network of nonprofit organizations, so can 366 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:21.240 advocate four against different kinds of legislation to a limited extent, 367 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.319 but more so as advocating for against certain kinds of 368 00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:29.640 policies and ideas without restriction. It's a nonprofit, so donations 369 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:37.880 to it are tax deductible and not publicly disclosed. You 370 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.440 can deduct the money. So it's a nonprofit, it's not 371 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.799 a tax organization, and donations to it are tax deductible. 372 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.759 Then he's got his five O one C fours five 373 00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.880 to one C fours that's right next to five on 374 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.720 one C three in the tax code. Five to one 375 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:58.599 C fours can do unlimited legislative advocacy. They can even 376 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:07.640 do some direct candidate advocacy. So with legislative advocacy, that 377 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:09.519 means you can use your five one C four to 378 00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:13.160 be the chief vehicle for advocating for, say a ballot initiative, 379 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:16.759 because that's just legislation. Even though people vote on it, 380 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:18.319 it's really fun. At the end of the day, it's 381 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:22.599 just legislation. So for ballot initiatives or for legislation that's 382 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.559 being debated in state legislatures or in Congress, you have 383 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.599 your five O one C four. Now five one C 384 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:31.279 fours are not subject to tax donations. Two of five 385 00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:36.440 one C four, though, are not tax deductible. Then you've 386 00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:42.400 got packs. A pack a political action committee directly gives 387 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:46.279 money to candidates and can directly support and oppose candidates 388 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.960 with no restrictions. Okay, none of the restrictions of five 389 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:53.839 to one C four has on direct candidate advocacy. So that's 390 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:56.599 sort of what George Soros set up. He would set 391 00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:59.720 up a lot of different issue focused five one C 392 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.519 three He's five to one C four's and packs all 393 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.759 kind of funded with his money, and they were all 394 00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:09.200 sort of interconnected, helping each other and advocating for liberal 395 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:19.839 policies in all these different ways. This guy on Twitter, 396 00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:30.000 John Lefevre, who's New York Times author, he wrote on 397 00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:34.559 Twitter about Mackenzie Scott that Mackenzie Scott is getting into 398 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.359 this kind of space now slightly different strategies from George Soros, 399 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.559 but this is how he describes it now. Mackenzie Scott, 400 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.599 for those who don't know, is the ex wife of 401 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:50.039