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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what's happening? What's going on? What is

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<v Speaker 1>rolling in your world? I'm excited. We have our first

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<v Speaker 1>ever trip to Easter Island with doctor Edwin Barnhart coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm leaving in a couple of weeks, actually, well less

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<v Speaker 1>than a month. March fourteenth. We head to Santiago, Chili.

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<v Speaker 1>We all meet together, we have dinner, and we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lay out the plan and then we get on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane. From Santiago, we fly to Rapahanui otherwise known

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<v Speaker 1>as Easter Island for a week of exotic adventure. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been kind of reviewing Easter and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>really big, but boy is it pack withs anomalies. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got these huge moai sculptures that weigh fifty to eighty

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<v Speaker 1>tons each. There's still a big question on how they

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<v Speaker 1>move those from the quarry. The quarries a few miles away,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no evidence of sliding them down hills, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no evidence of dragging them. There's no trees on the island.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all cut off, cut down, and so how in

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<v Speaker 1>the heck did they move them to the outer rim

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<v Speaker 1>facing the ocean? How are they moved? You know? And

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<v Speaker 1>there's certain people that have gotten together with others and

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<v Speaker 1>they've tied ropes on them and they've they've tilted them

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<v Speaker 1>left and right and left and right, a slow pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta say there's a lot of evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic anomalies. They're magnetic fluctuations that may have been a

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<v Speaker 1>resource under the correct or special science to direct these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm not talking about levitation, I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>anything that is too far out. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if a society is developed under a geomagnetic science and technology,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible that they were using this to move these huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge stone moi because they're huge. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the features we're going to be looking at the different quarries.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a planetarium there. There's a number of areas that

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<v Speaker 1>we go to. Apparently, and we've heard this from a

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<v Speaker 1>few of our guests, that there is a underwater portions

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<v Speaker 1>of an underwater city a few feet off of the coast.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know how we observe that unless they

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<v Speaker 1>have drones that they fly over and you can look down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not underwater skin diver, so I couldn't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they haven't offered that to us. But just getting

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<v Speaker 1>on that island apparently is very very healing. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great energy there and so hey, I am

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to that. So I will do what I

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<v Speaker 1>can to get photographs, to get video up as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as possible while we're there, and then we'll put up

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<v Speaker 1>some galleries while when I return. That you can see

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<v Speaker 1>on the Facebook page, our Instagram page. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a big announcement. We are relaunching our YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Ancient's YouTube is going to be going up. We

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<v Speaker 1>had it taken down, spit down for almost a year now,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are wanting to see these guests and hear

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<v Speaker 1>what they have to say front and center. And I

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<v Speaker 1>promise before the end of the month the new page

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<v Speaker 1>will be up. I'll make an official announcement where to

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<v Speaker 1>go and see it. But we have had some problems

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<v Speaker 1>with YouTube. They have an editorial board there, and so

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<v Speaker 1>if you are publishing videos that are questioning our history

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<v Speaker 1>or questioning the current paradigm and understanding, sometimes they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Why they would bother with that? Why they

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<v Speaker 1>would care? It's kind of an interesting question and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't answer that. I don't think anybody can. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do our best to post only things that are legitimate.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the reason why audio podcasting is still

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<v Speaker 1>the ruler that the top way to get information out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any editors, I have no editorial board.

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<v Speaker 1>My publishing arm is iHeartRadio. We have a we're signing

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<v Speaker 1>on with a new advertising agency, so you will have

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<v Speaker 1>here a few more ads, but they are wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I will not promote alcohol or tobacco. Occasionally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll promote cannabis. Of course, CBD products I definitely promote

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<v Speaker 1>because I really endorse those. So there's some change in

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<v Speaker 1>the wind, lots of change in the wind, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>fun and that's good, and that's what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 1>As we begin and we are working our way into

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, let's hope for a quick spring, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, the winner has been harsh on everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about everyone here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. That's the latest on what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with our trip, with what's happening with YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course what is happening with Earth ancients. As

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<v Speaker 1>we continue to expand and provide information, so isn't it interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>You would think that the video channel YouTube would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to you know, freely, you know, express points of

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<v Speaker 1>view and things like that. It's not the case. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not the case. And so if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear the raw data, unedited data, you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Cliff and Friends and the wonderful groups of

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<v Speaker 1>guests that we have on the program here on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Audio Podcast. Okay, so what's been going on for

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<v Speaker 1>the last several months. We've had people talking about energy.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had the Megalithic lay lines with Annie Williams who

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<v Speaker 1>describe the Pyrenees Mountains southern France, northern Spain and how

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<v Speaker 1>they are plotted and how there is a magnetic geomagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>lay line. It's a super energy highway that is crossing

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<v Speaker 1>land and ocean. So we understood that. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>had Howard Crowhurst discussing Karnak and the sacred alignment, the

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<v Speaker 1>three four five angle and how that angle and whatever's

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<v Speaker 1>inside of that angle is a sacred geometry, a sacred

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<v Speaker 1>way to understand and align with these huge energy vortex's,

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<v Speaker 1>these lay lines that run for hundreds of hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>miles and how our ancestors really determined that these are

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<v Speaker 1>the sacred areas and they built their dwellings there. They

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<v Speaker 1>used them for energy healing. We don't know what else

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<v Speaker 1>they used them for, but Karnac, France was just one area.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we had Chris Freeland, Christopher Freeland just recently talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the stone towers. Now that was fascinating because we

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<v Speaker 1>learned that our ancestors not only trapped this energy but

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<v Speaker 1>identified it, and by building these towers it collected this

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<v Speaker 1>information this energy, transformed it in somehow and then distributed

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<v Speaker 1>through their open windows which are like vents. It all

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<v Speaker 1>comes to a head today, or I should say a

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<v Speaker 1>conclusion with the cathedrals. Our guest today is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the French cathedrals that were built by the Masons who

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<v Speaker 1>were following the guidance of the Templar Knights, these sacred

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<v Speaker 1>monks who had ventured into the Middle East to Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>and very very likely, although it's not documented, very very

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<v Speaker 1>likely discovered sacred geometry, how to tap these energies, how

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<v Speaker 1>to build around these energies, and what was the result

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<v Speaker 1>were seven to ten cathedrals that were built over either

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<v Speaker 1>earlier dwellings, but most likely and what we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm today geomagnetic anomalies that they tapped, they tuned,

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<v Speaker 1>and they captured the sacred energies of the earth and

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<v Speaker 1>made these dwellings outstanding places to go for healing, for prayer,

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<v Speaker 1>and for manifestation. And this is something we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>learn about today, manifesting what you want. So these cathedrals

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<v Speaker 1>are gorgeous. If you haven't been to the Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>Cathedral in Paris, it's the closest one to downtown. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's other cathedrals that are just as magnificent. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in France about five years ago, and I

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<v Speaker 1>went to a Notre Dame, I went to char Trey.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a few of these different cathedrals, and

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<v Speaker 1>every single one of them had a energy about them

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<v Speaker 1>that is very calming, very healing. I sat one of

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<v Speaker 1>the front pews and I felt like I was being

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<v Speaker 1>bathed with something, some kind of wonderful healing energy. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is fantastic. This is exactly what doctor Lydia Di

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<v Speaker 1>Leong was talking about when she was describing how these

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<v Speaker 1>temples were built over, and of course in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>cathedrals were built over these sacred areas that were tuned

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<v Speaker 1>and transformed so that these buildings were radiating the people

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<v Speaker 1>or bathing them in these energies and healing people. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is what we want to learn about today. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's exciting because we're kind of conclude voting the energy work.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not intend for the programs to go in

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<v Speaker 1>this fashion. It just happened. It was the sacredness of

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<v Speaker 1>the work that just evolved, it flowered. And so we've

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<v Speaker 1>had these wonderful guests, these wonderful authors who have presented

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<v Speaker 1>us with their understanding of how our ancestors captured, transmuted,

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<v Speaker 1>and emitted these sacred geomagnetic energies. So today's program is

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<v Speaker 1>the Cathedral Code, unlocking the ancient blueprint of energy resonance

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<v Speaker 1>and human transformation. And my guest is Renee Schnitzler. I've

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<v Speaker 1>Forward slash Tours. We're kind of culminating the series we've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking about the last I want to say a

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<v Speaker 1>month or so when it comes to subtle energy in megaliths,

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<v Speaker 1>geo glyphs, pyramids and other structures that were left to

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<v Speaker 1>How we talked about stone towers. We've talked about megalithic

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<v Speaker 1>structures in Spain and in France. Today we're talking about cathedrals.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is Schnitzler, and she has written a

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<v Speaker 1>book called The Cathedral Code, Unlocking the Ancient Blueprint and

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<v Speaker 1>Energy Resonance and Human Transformation. It's a culminating book and

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<v Speaker 1>This is why it's such a great read, because it

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<v Speaker 1>takes everything we've been talking about and condenses it into

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<v Speaker 1>the cathedrals. The Greek cathedrals, which we now know through

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<v Speaker 1>the templar Knights, were machines in many ways. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a little bit about Renee. She is a

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<v Speaker 1>laborate facilitator. She is a Dutch nationalist, raised and educated

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. One of the things I really

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<v Speaker 1>like about her work is that she's spent more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years studying Asian civilization's sacred archaeola, archaeology, sacred architecture,

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<v Speaker 1>as well human consciousness, and she has brought it all

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<v Speaker 1>the together in this new book, The Cathedral Code, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to learn more about it today. So Renee,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Earth Ancient. It's great to have you on

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<v Speaker 1>the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Cliff, Thanks so much for inviting me. Appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is just packed with data. When did you, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what influenced you to start traveling to your your unit

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<v Speaker 1>from the United States. So you're getting out a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Dutch originally, but I was raised and educated

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. And then I moved yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I moved back to the Netherlands. But I've always, always,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as I remember, being captivated by ancient civilizations.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I started traveling very soon, I thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here, you know, looking at the ancient,

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<v Speaker 2>the megalithic architecture and the perfection and the different Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Egypt and to all, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>popular places that we go to. So I actually started

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<v Speaker 2>by reading like Graham Hancock and Sachariah Sitchen and all

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<v Speaker 2>the classics Eric Vondygan, and I realized, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>something more going on here than what we're being taught

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<v Speaker 2>in schools.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we were at these cathedrals, were you feeling energy?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you Are you sensitive enough to kind of pick

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a really good question. I'm actually I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>call myself a super sensitive. I'm actually more clear audience,

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<v Speaker 2>like knowing I suddenly get information down that I suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>know something that is more what I have. I do

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<v Speaker 2>get some feeling. I can feel if places are high energy,

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<v Speaker 2>low energy, good energy, bad energy, so that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't get to the cathedrals as the culmination of

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing now until really after this entire journey

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<v Speaker 2>of going through to all these different megalithic sites and wondering,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what was happening there and reading up about them.

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't actually until two years ago when I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I finally have to go to Sharks because it's on

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<v Speaker 2>my wish list to go there and walk the Labyrinth

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<v Speaker 2>that I had an amazing experience. And it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>after I walked the Labyrinth that first I actually just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of ended up in my bed not being able

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<v Speaker 2>to move, as if something was rewiring me. It's such

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing technology, you wouldn't believe it. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>so excited to get there. I was the first one

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<v Speaker 2>to walk the labyrinth after the winter, because they closed

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<v Speaker 2>it in the winter you can't walk it. So it

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<v Speaker 2>really had a real impact on me where and then

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<v Speaker 2>I took the course the facilitator course Labyrinth facilitator course

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren Artress, and she's actually an American pastor in California

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<v Speaker 2>who has rekindled the whole labyrinth movement in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>so not in Europe, but in the US. And I

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<v Speaker 2>took her course and actually that weekend, I suddenly I

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<v Speaker 2>was at the cathedral, and I looked and I said, oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute. All this technology that I've been seeing

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<v Speaker 2>around in all these ancient monuments and buildings that everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, they're all in the cathedral. So I identified

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<v Speaker 2>like ten different energy principles that are that are in

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<v Speaker 2>the cathedrals that I can find. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's finished. I don't think it's complete. But there are

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<v Speaker 2>things like and they're in the book obviously, but the

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<v Speaker 2>ten principles, they're light there, you sound, sacred geometry, symbolism,

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<v Speaker 2>ritual prayer, living waters, lay lines, of course, alignments, and

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<v Speaker 2>the labyrinth. So all these work together in different ways

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<v Speaker 2>on our different energy bodies. So I mean there, they're

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<v Speaker 2>a machine. They're an energy machine that's there to harmonize us,

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<v Speaker 2>to have an effect on your heart rate, on your brain, balance,

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<v Speaker 2>on your biology.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk about the Templar Knights. These are the architects.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've had people on the show speaking about their

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<v Speaker 1>search for knowledge that they were in the sacred Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Land Jerusalem, and the thinking is that they uncovered not

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<v Speaker 1>only sacred geometry, but also perhaps evidence or lost science

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<v Speaker 1>on tapping these earth energies, these anomalies, that come out

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<v Speaker 1>and using them constructively. Did you what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the tell us about the templars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, I think that that's what I found

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I think it becomes a little bit more interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>There's more parties involved than only the templar knights. What

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<v Speaker 2>I found also except the templars, and that's why the

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<v Speaker 2>cathedrals were built right around the time of the Crusades.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the theory is that the templars went to

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<v Speaker 2>Jerusalem and they actually they had contact with the old

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<v Speaker 2>mystery schools, the Egyptian Greek Near East mystery schools, and

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<v Speaker 2>that this wisdom that was in the wisdom that they

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<v Speaker 2>received the wisdom to bring back to Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the kings of.

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<v Speaker 2>France were involved. They were very deeply esoteric, like King Louis,

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Louis, he was very esoteric and he was probably

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<v Speaker 2>the patron of these explorations and the knights Templar. So

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<v Speaker 2>they came back to France and then together with the Freemasons,

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<v Speaker 2>the Freemasons actually built the cathedrals. That's what the thought is,

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<v Speaker 2>and that they were also initiates in a tradition that

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<v Speaker 2>use sacred architecture sacred art, and because they knew how

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<v Speaker 2>to use likest crystalline materials, because the cathedrals are basically

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<v Speaker 2>crystal palaces. They're all built with crystalline materials, and they

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<v Speaker 2>used harmonics and sound and vibration, and they positioned the

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<v Speaker 2>cathedrals also on top of old of course older venerated

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<v Speaker 2>sites with I think that at Chartra Cathedral there were

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<v Speaker 2>like seven different churches and temples before that, Like Chartra

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<v Speaker 2>Cathedral is like the number of the eighth or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and so they actually they were they they

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<v Speaker 2>built them. So it's a combination of the Knights, Templar,

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<v Speaker 2>the Freemasons, and the royal houses of Europe. And I

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<v Speaker 2>actually read a book recently where they're where they found

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<v Speaker 2>that there is a sacred pentagram around Paris which connects

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<v Speaker 2>five cathedrals and it spells out the word Sako s

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<v Speaker 2>a croo for sacred, and it's the Cathedral at Salt

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<v Speaker 2>so it's s e n s, the Cathedral at Amien,

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<v Speaker 2>at Chartre at Rems and Saint Omer and those five

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<v Speaker 2>they make a powerful, powerful pentagram around Paris. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the middle of that pentagram, it's not exactly

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<v Speaker 2>Paris is just the north, there's a monastery that belonged

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<v Speaker 2>to King Louis. Again, so we're back to this whole

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<v Speaker 2>esoteric tradition that we've just lost, that we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been I have been to Rams in France,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I we did a tour there, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I went into the sanctuary, there's an overwhelming sense of

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<v Speaker 1>not only peace, but I and the others who I

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<v Speaker 1>was with felt deep relaxation. It's like there's something that

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<v Speaker 1>worked there that shuts down your monkey mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and forces you to.

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<v Speaker 1>Begin contemplating. It's the damnedest thing. Talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about how they I guess you did mention that the

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<v Speaker 1>stone work, the crystall line stone, the glass, the light

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<v Speaker 1>and just a general energy is all in symphony to

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<v Speaker 1>create this environment.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about that, Yeah, well exactly what the science behind

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<v Speaker 3>it is that all these different principles work in on

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<v Speaker 3>your body, your different levels of body, and what they

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<v Speaker 3>do is they balance you out, so it's you really

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<v Speaker 3>get whatever you need at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've had people go in and they cry

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<v Speaker 2>and so they release emotional energy, but it balances your

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<v Speaker 2>brain have so you can start thinking more holistically. It

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<v Speaker 2>stimulates your creativity, It puts you back on your path.

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren Arts also with all her work twenty five years

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<v Speaker 2>helping people walk the labyrinth, she said what she sees

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<v Speaker 2>most of all is that it puts people back on

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<v Speaker 2>their path, their blueprint in life, what they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be doing. So, yeah, you get in touch with that

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<v Speaker 2>in ourself. It just it, it's it, it's I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's biochemical, it's it's energetic, it's it's science that

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<v Speaker 2>we've lost and that is there. It also apparently shields

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<v Speaker 2>you from EMF So you can go into a cathedral

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't you know, you have an ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that works on you. So it's it's the proportion. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the proportion and the sacred geometry. Looking at that

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at fractals. I think that Lydia talked about

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<v Speaker 2>that as well. Fractal geometry ordins our minds. It brings

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<v Speaker 2>order to our system.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the characters Claire and Thomas, they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lead us along, not are they real? Are they just

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<v Speaker 1>telling this? You're telling the story through them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm telling the story through them. I actually got

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<v Speaker 2>that inspiration by it's it's a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>nod to the Da Vinci code.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, it reminded me. I thought from it,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Okay, Renee is trying to make a script

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<v Speaker 1>the Hollywood bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, no, I just thought it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's No, it's exactly. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a wink and a nod to the Da Vinci

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<v Speaker 2>code where you've got the two characters. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get the same type of atmosphere of how we're uncovering

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<v Speaker 2>these mysteries together and going on this journey. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I use that rather than my boring voice, you

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<v Speaker 2>know telling this well.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it because it helps us. It takes us

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<v Speaker 1>through the book and through their eyes. We're observing the

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<v Speaker 1>various dimensions of this cathedral design and function, give us

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of what you believe sacred geometry is, what

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<v Speaker 1>is it and how is it used in these cathedrals?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, sacred geometry. I spend quite a bit of time

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<v Speaker 2>in the book on sacred geometry, also explaining what it

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<v Speaker 2>is and what it does. To you, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>something I want to work with with people. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it goes back to they're really the defining principles

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<v Speaker 2>of what the universe is built out of. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>patterns of what the universe is built out of, primary patterns.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happens is when we focus on these primary patterns,

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<v Speaker 2>we actually get information, information in our subconscious, information out

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<v Speaker 2>of our memory. Its code, it's actually coded language. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is really I work with it myself. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can even put geometric figures, you can put them

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<v Speaker 2>on your body, you can meditate with them, especially complex figures.

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<v Speaker 2>They will really help your because your energy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>our bodies are energy, we're water for energy. They will

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<v Speaker 2>balance out, they will reflect on our system. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're very powerful coaches that we can work with.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we look at short trays, which is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite that you figure feature in the book,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, the cathedral, Uh short trays, Oh yeah, sorry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's use that as an example. Where would

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<v Speaker 1>we see sacred geometry when we see it in the foundation. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the labyrinth later, but I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's definitely sacred geometry.

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<v Speaker 1>What's a body, what's a what's a prime structural formation

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<v Speaker 1>in one of these cathedrals that is sacred geometry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you'll see it. It's actually if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the way the cathedrals are built, there are built only

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<v Speaker 2>with sacred geometry. So if you look at the layout,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, of the plan of a cathedral, you will

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<v Speaker 2>see all types of sacred geometric forms, but the more

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<v Speaker 2>complex forms like the pentagram, like the octahedrons, like all

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<v Speaker 2>these complex forms are used to shape the cathedral itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them. You'll see it from the outside, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see that there are four sided, six sided, eight sided,

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<v Speaker 2>but also on the inside you'll see the entire plan

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<v Speaker 2>is laid out and structured according to sacred geometry. But

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<v Speaker 2>you'll also see it in the design for instant. When

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<v Speaker 2>you walk in, you'll see the vesica pisces. You'll see

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<v Speaker 2>a Jesus figure sitting in the vesica pieces, which actually

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<v Speaker 2>has like double triple meaning it's a sacred geometric figure,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just talking about the origins of life and

420
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<v Speaker 2>the portal. You're stepping into a portal into a different space,

421
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<v Speaker 2>so it has multiple meanings and multiple effects, so you

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<v Speaker 2>also see it outside in the design. It's also in

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<v Speaker 2>the reflected in the proportions, so the sacred geometric proportions

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<v Speaker 2>are used in the buttresses, in the design and how

425
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 2>it's made. They're like tonal notes, but it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>very specialized and goes a little bit further than my knowledge,

427
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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's it's built in everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I hear what you're saying. It's all kind

429
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<v Speaker 1>of harmonized, the men, the carvings, the stonework, the metal,

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<v Speaker 1>the wood. We're gonna take a short commercial break to

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<v Speaker 1>allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return

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<v Speaker 1>shortly with my guests today, Renee Schnitzler, discussing her new book,

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<v Speaker 1>The Cathedral Code, will be right back. It's God, say

434
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<v Speaker 1>that's bullshit. You don't like me, and we both know that.

435
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Can we just pretend we're grown nubs for a man

436
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<v Speaker 1>and sata sir. If it's a case she you got

437
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 1>away with it too easily.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we je pretend we're grown ups for a man?

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is Renee Schnitzler. She is the author

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<v Speaker 1>of The Cathedral Code. She has spent over twenty five

441
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<v Speaker 1>years studying the details in the intricacies of these great

442
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>cathedrals of Europe, and we are getting a sense of

443
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 1>just how important they are for healing, for manifestation, and

444
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>for environmental change. When uh it was it a year

445
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>ago or maybe two years ago there was a fire

446
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<v Speaker 1>in one of the cathedrals where the where the roof

447
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was was burnt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, which one was it in Paris?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right now? Was was Would you say that they

450
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>rebuilt it according to because I think I remember hearing

451
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that they went out and they got special trees, they

452
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 1>carved it according to what they could find. I guess

453
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 1>they did the best they could to reproduce this sacred roof.

454
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<v Speaker 1>But you have to wonder if how much it changed

455
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<v Speaker 1>the harmonics, you.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Know, that's such a great question. And actually I haven't

457
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<v Speaker 2>been since it's been opened. It just recently reopened, and

458
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<v Speaker 2>I have the exact same question on what did it

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<v Speaker 2>do to the harmonics, to the energy. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling I'm going to be working together with a very

461
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.680
<v Speaker 2>sensitive sound healer. We want to go to Notre Dame

462
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<v Speaker 2>to see what type of work needs to be done

463
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>there on the energetics. So that is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that's on my in my plan and in my program,

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<v Speaker 2>but I haven't I don't know now, but I'm I

466
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<v Speaker 2>don't think you can. If you're looking at all the

467
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<v Speaker 2>different energetic elements that make up a cathedral, it would

468
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<v Speaker 2>be impossible to destroy all of them, because of course

469
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<v Speaker 2>it's on the lay lines, it's on the sacred waters,

470
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 2>it's built with sacred geometry using the materials. So but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm wondering exactly what did they change? Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>my point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny. Lots of book right there, Renee, you

474
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<v Speaker 1>got to come up with I think so too, the

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<v Speaker 1>repair of Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and what happened? What did they change? And you know,

477
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>there are very strong esoteric traditions in France and in Paris.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Paris is I think Paris is a book, and there's

479
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:04.799
<v Speaker 2>so much that can be written about that. But there

480
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>are also, how would I say, some some contra forces,

481
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:12.280
<v Speaker 2>let's put it that way. So I'm not sure what

482
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 2>they did to Notre Dame. But the interesting thing is

483
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:19.039
<v Speaker 2>when they opened it, the pope that opened, not the pope,

484
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<v Speaker 2>but the bishop that opened the new Notre Dame. He

485
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>knocked with his staff three times on the door to

486
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<v Speaker 2>get in, and he did that three times, so that

487
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 2>is the number thirty three. Wow. Yes, so they're using numerology,

488
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:41.639
<v Speaker 2>sacred numerology. So it's a tradition that is not completely gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's sacred arts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Freemasons were the ones, and we apparently know

492
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>this now that who built these cathedrals, talk about and

493
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<v Speaker 1>present if you can, what you believe is what I

494
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>would consider a tuning. They're tuning one section of the

495
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 1>building to the next section and doing the inner chambers.

496
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.119
<v Speaker 1>They're tuning and they're putting it together. So it's one

497
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 1>harmonic device. How do you see them building these places?

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like they really had to be careful, you know,

499
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<v Speaker 1>because I believe in your book you talk about how

500
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the stonework was hand carved in such a way that

501
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:32.920
<v Speaker 1>it fit together and it's one gigantic resonator.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, to be perfectly honest, I didn't go

503
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<v Speaker 2>into great detail on how they built it because I

504
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:46.599
<v Speaker 2>think that that's still some lost technology. To be perfectly honest,

505
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that we I think they're using some type

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<v Speaker 2>of harmonic technology as well in order to build these

507
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's all handwork. But I haven't been

508
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<v Speaker 2>able to find and that when it comes to my research,

509
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<v Speaker 2>so I don't really know how exactly they build them.

510
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<v Speaker 2>I think partly is inspiration. I think it's divine inspiration.

511
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<v Speaker 2>I did some research into astrology to see if there

512
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>were some very interesting astrological events going on in that era,

513
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<v Speaker 2>because I think that there is some higher intelligence, access

514
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<v Speaker 2>to higher intelligence that help them build these cathedrals. I

515
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.519
<v Speaker 2>haven't been able to prove it, but I don't think

516
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a traditional way of building. I think it's inspirational.

517
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I think they've used it higher intelligence and it's been

518
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a period where there were developments

519
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 2>that we've lost now that we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, if they're freemasons or monks, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do meditative practices to kind of bring in the

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<v Speaker 1>energies and bring in this higher consciousness. Do you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the I think you said eight or nine cathedrals

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<v Speaker 1>in France are built over water aquifers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I took. I haven't researched all the cathedrals, but

526
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the ones I've researched are all built above water aquifer

527
00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 2>as wells rivers river beds, So they all have very

528
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:18.440
<v Speaker 2>strategic water places. And I've I'm looking into water a

529
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.599
<v Speaker 2>lot more even since I've written the book, and water

530
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 2>is becoming more and more important the way I look

531
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<v Speaker 2>at it, I mean looking at Masada Emoto, but also

532
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:29.519
<v Speaker 2>via Austin's work. I don't know if you know her,

533
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>but the intelligence of water is really becoming very significant.

534
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I think in this as well. It's not only the

535
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>physical qualities and the energetic qualities of water which are

536
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 2>creating a certain resonance. They're adding to the resonant feature

537
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>of a cathedral, but it's also the intelligence of communicating

538
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>with water itself in order to achieve higher consciousness. So

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00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot more going on there when

540
00:37:58.199 --> 00:37:59.039
<v Speaker 2>it comes to water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this is what's fascinating, because we had Christopher

542
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.920
<v Speaker 1>friedlin On who wrote a book just came out called

543
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>The Mystery of the Round Towers, which he gets into

544
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned to you before we started. He believes that

545
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<v Speaker 1>these towers, and there's I think ninety six of them

546
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 1>or sixty six or something, they're built over aquifers, crossing aquifers,

547
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 1>and his belief is also that they sit on a

548
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Tolleric field. So the energy comes up through the earth,

549
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>passes through the water, which greatly enhances the energy, and

550
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>then it's transmuted through the body of these towers and

551
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>passed out to these big windows. Kind of an environmental

552
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>energy design. Do you think the cathedrals had that same

553
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<v Speaker 1>effect of just.

554
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, definitely, And I think it even goes further. I

555
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.800
<v Speaker 2>think it's an Earth cosmic combination. I think that they're

556
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>also matching up with cosmic energies. So I think it's

557
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 2>where cosmic energies are meeting Earth energies and are creating

558
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:11.119
<v Speaker 2>certain dynamics that we can work with that also affect

559
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the environment that you were talking about. I think with

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00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>cathedrals it's the same thing. They're affecting the entire environment

561
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>around them.

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<v Speaker 1>You said something I'd like you to clarify a little bit, Renee,

563
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>which is there is a cosmological connection between these cathedrals,

564
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the builders of the cathedrals, and those who enter the

565
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:42.599
<v Speaker 1>interior of the cathedrals. It's an unseen vibrational connection to

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00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the cosmos.

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00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess right, yeah, Well, I think what they're used,

568
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 2>what they're connecting to, is cosmological energies. When it comes

569
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<v Speaker 2>to all the planets, the Sun, the Moon, the planets.

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00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 2>There's actually the it's also a cosmic clock. I didn't

571
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<v Speaker 2>include that yet in the book because I haven't because

572
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to stay with the energetics. But there is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge cosmological study and analysis possible in cathedrals. They're

574
00:40:17.079 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>measuring everything, every cosmological movement going on in the sky.

575
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>They're measuring the Earth, the Moon, all the planets, probably

576
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<v Speaker 2>also in other galaxies. The towers, there's a Sun tower,

577
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a moon tower. They're counting all the It's very,

578
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 2>very complex. There's a lot going on there, and there's

579
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<v Speaker 2>some really good researchers that are on top of this.

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<v Speaker 2>And for now, as I said, I didn't include because

581
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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't and I'm not sure about the specific energetic

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<v Speaker 2>effect of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. You mentioned earlier the steeples. To my mind, the

584
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<v Speaker 1>steeples are kind of like connections or distribution centers. We

585
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 1>talked earlier about the work of John Burke, who believes

586
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<v Speaker 1>that the pyramids were pumping energy into the atmosphere. Is

587
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that a feeling that you have, because I think the

588
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>signature design of these cathedrals are the two steeples right.

589
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Definitely there, and there's one a steeple of the Sun

590
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and a steeple of the moon, and they're shaped completely

591
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.320
<v Speaker 2>differently in order to reflect the different qualities of the

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<v Speaker 2>moon and the different rotations of the moon and the

593
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>rotations of the Sun and the rotation of the planets.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. There's so much science in there. Whether they're

595
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.320
<v Speaker 2>also shooting up energy. I have read about that when

596
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 2>it comes to churches. So there is a theory that

597
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>all church steeples are sending out the energy of the

598
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:55.639
<v Speaker 2>congregation when they get together. Yes, and I'm assuming that

599
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.280
<v Speaker 2>also is happening in the cathedral. It's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you seeing that each of the steeples is

601
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<v Speaker 1>different from the other?

602
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're too, completely different. At sharks, they're completely different. Yes,

603
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, it's great stuff.

604
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<v Speaker 1>Uh. You spend a good deal of time in this

605
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 1>this new book of yours a cathedral code talking about

606
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<v Speaker 1>the effect on human bio fields. What is what is

607
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the effect? Can you give us some basics on this?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you walk in the entrance of one of these

609
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<v Speaker 1>and not every part of the cathedral is the same all, there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Different, No, it's interesting. There's a couple of theories about this.

611
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<v Speaker 2>One is that the cathedral also has chakra points, and

612
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<v Speaker 2>that as you go forwards from the cathedral from the entrance,

613
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you're actually going from chakra to higher chakra, from lower

614
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:54.519
<v Speaker 2>chakras to higher chakras, and you will feel you will

615
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.320
<v Speaker 2>go from more base feelings to more feelings of harmony

616
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>and more feelings of elevation as you go forward and

617
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>deeper into the cathedral. Then there are also for instance,

618
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.440
<v Speaker 2>if you're walking labyrinth, then you've got more feelings of

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00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 2>calmness of rest. It's affecting your heart rate, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>calming down your heart rate. That's why you should calm

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<v Speaker 2>and relax. It's affecting your brain, which means that's why

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to get insights and you're going to get creative.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to get new ideas and new insights and solutions.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have an intention you go into a cathedral,

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<v Speaker 2>and that cathedral will probably answer your intention, because that

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<v Speaker 2>is the different way. It depends on what. It can

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<v Speaker 2>have an emotional effect, it could have physical effect your

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<v Speaker 2>physical body, it could affect your energetic body or even

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<v Speaker 2>your spiritual body.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, multily, Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's so amazing to me

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<v Speaker 1>that these wonderful buildings were during the worst part of

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<v Speaker 1>human history, which is the medieval period, were just well.

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<v Speaker 2>I beg to differ. I think that the Dark Ages

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<v Speaker 2>are getting a bad rep and I think they were

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<v Speaker 2>actually probably very illuminated.

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<v Speaker 1>Please tell us war, because I have never heard of

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<v Speaker 1>any positive outcomes from this Dark Age. All I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of is pestilence and plagues and writing teeth and

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<v Speaker 1>shabby clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that history has been a little bit rewritten

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to that. To be perfectly honest, I

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<v Speaker 2>think when you look at that period and you look

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<v Speaker 2>at the arts, the culture, the castles. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being in Europe, you know, I'm being in France. I

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<v Speaker 2>go to all the castles and all the churches and

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<v Speaker 2>all the cathedrals that when you look at the amazing

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<v Speaker 2>arts and the culture that was developed during that time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's anything but dark. It's very illuminated. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it's been getting I think it's gotten a bad rap.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a little bit it's been rewritten. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the history has been rewritten a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe what we're focusing on is the bad aspects

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<v Speaker 1>of these horrible plagues that killed millions of people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the illustrations of life at that time

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<v Speaker 1>do not look very rosy. But perhaps you're right where

656
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<v Speaker 1>they're more earth based, less tech it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there was. There was a different stream

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<v Speaker 2>as well. I think there were two cultures there. If

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<v Speaker 2>you that, I'm not so sure if it was exactly

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<v Speaker 2>that bad, let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the tapestries don't look very inviting. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to

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<v Speaker 1>identify themselves, and we will return shortly with my guests today,

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<v Speaker 1>Renee Schnoltzeler discussing her new book, The Cathedral Code, Unlucky,

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<v Speaker 1>The Ancient Blueprint of energy, resonance and human Transformation. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back with you. The book we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>today is called The Cathedral Code, and we're speaking with

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<v Speaker 1>author Renee Schnitzler, who has studied for over twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years the intricacy, the inner workings, the emissions, the trolluric

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<v Speaker 1>energy of cathedrals throughout France. Could you tell us a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the importance of prayer in these cathedrals

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<v Speaker 1>as a form of using intention perhaps getting enlightenment, and

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<v Speaker 1>how prayer is activated inside these cathedrals.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I thought that was really fascinating, and because prayer

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<v Speaker 2>is I think seen as very much a religious thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think prayer is also a consciousness technology and

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<v Speaker 2>is actually using affirmations and meditation to create and to manifest.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's of course more powerful because you're doing it

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<v Speaker 2>in this container where these energies are all aligning to

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<v Speaker 2>actually make it all come true. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really powerful place for affirmation and meditation. That's actually

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing, so I would suggest for anybody too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's actually bringing the soul back into the cathedral,

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<v Speaker 2>but for a completely different reason. So now you understand

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<v Speaker 2>what you're actually doing. Would you say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that when we go to these places,

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<v Speaker 1>we're plugging in to the system through prayer, through affirmations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I do think that they're supernatural entities, cathedrals. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they've got a I mean, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go they're not a biological entity, they're not alive as

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<v Speaker 2>in a biological life, but I think that they've got

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<v Speaker 2>a supernatural aliveness to them. I do think they're live entities,

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<v Speaker 2>So I do think it's system work what you're doing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you're stepping into a live system and aligning with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's important to have your intention straight, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's important that you know that you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'd be I'd love to hear a story

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<v Speaker 1>from you of someone that you work with, or a

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<v Speaker 1>group that you brought in there, where you gave them

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<v Speaker 1>a heads of it and said, okay, have your intentions ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody who manifested something, or perhaps even yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I think I can. I haven't been working

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<v Speaker 2>with them. I've just been doing the research now and

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<v Speaker 2>writing the book, and I'm starting to slowly work with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think my own example would be the very best.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I did is I went to Sharta and

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<v Speaker 2>I did I walked the labyrinth and I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was. I was so impressed by what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to myself. I said, do you want me to

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<v Speaker 2>work with you? Do you want me to work with this?

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next day I went to work and

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<v Speaker 2>I opened my laptop and there is this labyrinth picture

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<v Speaker 2>on my laptop. The next day, after I asked, the

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<v Speaker 2>labyrinth you want me to So I said, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go work with you to the extent

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<v Speaker 2>that you want me to. Because they are living entities.

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<v Speaker 2>They can influence you. They you can you can communicate

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<v Speaker 2>with them, but then on a different level. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>that it's all about frequency. It's all about your frequency.

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<v Speaker 1>So that sympology was kind of a markt for you

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<v Speaker 1>to go, Okay, yeah, I'm gonna start working with these labyrinths.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's talk about the labyrinth that chartrays because that

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<v Speaker 1>is the most gorgeous, uh and they show pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>it from elevated shots society. What do we know about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that talk about sacred geomephy. That thing is gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>But what are we looking at when we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the lab What does it look like the labyrinth?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, it's an eleven circuit labyrinth. It's very very complex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's difficult, I think to describe. It's eleven circuit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one way in, you go into the middle and then

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<v Speaker 2>you go back out the same direction. And what they

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<v Speaker 2>say is it's got three steps. One is to let go.

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<v Speaker 2>Then in the middle you get your inspiration and then

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<v Speaker 2>you take your gift back out into the world. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit like a hero's journey, a mini

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<v Speaker 2>heroes journey. Walking this labyrinth it's I'm not sure about

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<v Speaker 2>how big. It's big. So it takes you about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to walk it. And it's eight hundred years old,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was built when this cathedral was built. And

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<v Speaker 2>they think it was built by the Sisterian monks. They're

742
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<v Speaker 2>very very esoteric sect monks that knew what this labyrinth

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<v Speaker 2>was capable of doing. In your brain, it actually looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a brain, So what it does It works on

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<v Speaker 2>your brain to get you out of your left brain

746
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<v Speaker 2>and so you can be inspired and walk back out

747
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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, it's amazing. I mean, I would suggest for

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<v Speaker 2>everyone to go themselves and try. But any labyrinth the

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<v Speaker 2>theme form somewhere else will also work because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>question about this technology working on you. But obviously when

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the cathedral with all these other principles around

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<v Speaker 2>you and all these energies that really will give you

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<v Speaker 2>the big wow effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the labyrinth painted or is it mosaic.

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<v Speaker 2>Dudstones, it's marble stones, and there will go really really

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<v Speaker 2>deep it's marble, black and white marble, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them have been destroyed. A lot of labyrinths have

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<v Speaker 2>been destroyed. There's actually only a few genuine labyrinths left,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chatau is the most incredible and profound. There's also

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<v Speaker 2>one of Amien, but there's only a handful of Many

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<v Speaker 2>of them have been destroyed by forces that don't want

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<v Speaker 2>you to use this type of consciousness raising technology. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. So, yeah, you're saying that the other labyrinths that

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<v Speaker 1>are within these cathedrals have been destroyed. Are just one

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<v Speaker 1>that's inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they've been destroyed. They couldn't destroy this one,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently because it's made so deeply, like the stones are

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<v Speaker 2>so big and they are so deep into the ground

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<v Speaker 2>that they weren't able to destroy. It would be so

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<v Speaker 2>much work to destroy this labyrinth, so they didn't, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually been covered up for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's thanks to Lauren artists from the US twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago that were actually able to walk this

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<v Speaker 2>labyrinth again. That they open it every Friday for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of hours so you can walk it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>quite a privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, I have to say be a

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<v Speaker 1>little negative here for a minute and think that the

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<v Speaker 1>church probably was hearing about people having miracles as they

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<v Speaker 1>walk the labyrinth or having transformations, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what we like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was exactly, You're completely right. Yeah, yeah, So tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Us about your experience with the labyrinth as a facilitator.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean, Renee? How do you facilitate people

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<v Speaker 1>using the labyrinth?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what is really important is so they can really

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<v Speaker 2>turn it into a pilgrimage. I mean, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>walk the labyrinth yourself and just go there and you

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<v Speaker 2>can walk it, but if you have a facilitator, what

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<v Speaker 2>I just really do is help people to prepare for

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<v Speaker 2>it so that they can get the most out of

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<v Speaker 2>it and they could turn into a pilgrimage. You could.

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<v Speaker 2>I help them so you can put it, help with intention,

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<v Speaker 2>help open up the labyrinth, your communication, receiving it, closing it,

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<v Speaker 2>adding extra content really so you can get more out

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<v Speaker 2>of your experience. That's what a facilitator does. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>you could anybody can walk a labyrinth, you know, It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just anything complicated. It's just that if you're prepared

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more, you can turn it into something

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit bigger and more impactful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great. You mentioned neural placicity in your book where

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<v Speaker 1>you're having brain learning using affirmations and prayer talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a great chapter where you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an example of of healing and health.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, I really well, I think, as we

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned before, it's really a type of there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of personal developments that you can actually do with a cathedral,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I mean there's a lot of personal development

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<v Speaker 2>gurus out there that tell you what you should do

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<v Speaker 2>and what you can, but I think if you work

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<v Speaker 2>with a cathedral, you know you're it's basically also a

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<v Speaker 2>guru that can help you empower your prayers and your

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<v Speaker 2>meditations and what you're trying to create because because of

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<v Speaker 2>the effects the effects on your brain, you can actually

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<v Speaker 2>it's you can create new neural pathways, you can create

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<v Speaker 2>new way it expands your consciousness just by being there,

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<v Speaker 2>So it helps your personal development. And I think what

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<v Speaker 2>I really would like to do at one point is

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<v Speaker 2>really use it as a coaching tool as a personal

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<v Speaker 2>development tool, because I think, you know, it helps you

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<v Speaker 2>do the work. It's it's an environment that is just

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<v Speaker 2>so conducive to change to your own transformation. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is. I mean, from what I've experienced, it's changed

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<v Speaker 2>my life really, It's given me the confidence and a

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<v Speaker 2>way of working. I mean, you know, we've been following

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<v Speaker 2>all these power places for years now, but in order

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<v Speaker 2>to get that to a broader public, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>do that? Well? I mean, cathedral is a fantastic way

830
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<v Speaker 2>to do that. It's so tangible and it works. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very grateful to have found, you know, this type

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<v Speaker 2>of solution to also get people that are maybe new

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<v Speaker 2>to this topic into this space.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something we can do in our own living

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<v Speaker 1>space that would be a career creation of an interior

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<v Speaker 1>of a cathedral?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there aren't things you can do. The thing is though,

838
00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.599
<v Speaker 2>that a living space. I think Lydia doctor Lydia Leone

839
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 2>talked to about that. I think it's really important that

840
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't be living in a cathedral because you don't

841
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<v Speaker 2>want this continual energy, you know, influence you. You really

842
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 2>want to have a calm space. But what is important,

843
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I think in your own home is to really use

844
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 2>some sacred geometry because that really harmonizes your space and

845
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.840
<v Speaker 2>you can use that as hanging up a sacred geometry form.

846
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:26.840
<v Speaker 1>You can and.

847
00:57:26.840 --> 00:57:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Make sure also, water is very important, just to clear

848
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the air running well. Make sure your water is clean

849
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 2>or your water is harmonized. So there are a lot

850
00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 2>of elements you can use that you could also use

851
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<v Speaker 2>at home. But I wouldn't turn your home into a cathedral.

852
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<v Speaker 2>But of course that wouldn't be possible anyway, because you

853
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 2>don't have all the aspects. But I think, you know,

854
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:50.679
<v Speaker 2>but water is very important. I think geometry is really important.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at your lighting, natural lighting.

856
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I use.

857
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I use my Solfredgio tuning forks in the morning, you know,

858
00:57:59.840 --> 00:58:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I use the harmonized water, I use geometric forms. I

859
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:06.639
<v Speaker 2>do all this myself as well, in order to tune

860
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.519
<v Speaker 2>myself with some of these tools. That's why they're so cool.

861
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can use them yourself and apply them

862
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 2>daily just to be more you know, more balanced.

863
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>As we conclude, Renee, what would you like the reader

866
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 1>to get from this book? I mean, it's it's an

867
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 1>important look at the cathedrals, but there's even other messages.

868
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 1>But what would you like the foundational message to be

869
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:30.719
<v Speaker 1>for the reader?

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00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's really I think that they're great

871
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:39.719
<v Speaker 2>personal development places, and I think it's really important to

872
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 2>regain your heritage and your roots, reconnect with your heritage,

873
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:49.800
<v Speaker 2>with your roots. There is a lot of lost ancient

874
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.960
<v Speaker 2>knowledge that's in your DNA, it's in your system reactivated.

875
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:59.599
<v Speaker 2>It's really reconnecting to your ancient knowledge that's in your DNA.

876
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:01.639
<v Speaker 2>You've no you know it. You know it. So it's

877
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 2>really about reactivating your own knowledge and applying it in

878
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 2>your life.

879
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Reneehnssler, the Cathedral Code fantastic. Give us your web address

880
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and how people can get a hold of you.

881
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, they can look at wwwdcathedralcode dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Look forward to it. Thank you fantastic. It was real

883
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>fun and I enjoyed the book much success.

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00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Renee, thanks Cliff very much.

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00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>It's so refreshing to hear from researchers and authors who

886
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 1>are beginning to understand that these cathedrals and these other

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00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:46.239
<v Speaker 1>ancient sites are repositories for energy. And you know, we

888
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:49.039
<v Speaker 1>heard it from Lydia. You're not supposed to stay Actually,

889
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Renee said the same thing. You're not supposed to stay

890
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:55.320
<v Speaker 1>inside these cathedrals for more than a you know, a

891
00:59:55.360 --> 00:59:59.519
<v Speaker 1>short period of time. I think Renee Sa temples, you know,

892
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 1>same thing. You're not supposed to hang out and be

893
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 1>there because the energy is so strong and so cellular, altering,

894
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:12.039
<v Speaker 1>changeable and transmuting the body that you can't stay longer

895
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.440
<v Speaker 1>than that. You begin to get sick or you overdo it.

896
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:18.559
<v Speaker 1>And so that's the key, you know. I guess you

897
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:21.199
<v Speaker 1>had to have a sense of yourself and how much

898
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.800
<v Speaker 1>energy you can take. I haven't been in a situation

899
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.039
<v Speaker 1>where I could feel the energy so strong that I

900
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to stay, except for my story about the

901
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 1>pyramid in Chichinitsa, the Great El Castillo Pyramid, the castle

902
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>where I went to the top with a girlfriend and

903
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:41.280
<v Speaker 1>we were up there for about twenty minutes and I

904
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:44.039
<v Speaker 1>did feel ill and I had to sit another twenty

905
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 1>minutes before I could go back down. I think we

906
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:51.119
<v Speaker 1>caught it around after lunch sometime when the energy was

907
01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.679
<v Speaker 1>pulsing through. It was maybe the highest of the day.

908
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:57.559
<v Speaker 1>But that's important, and I think in future generations we

909
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:01.719
<v Speaker 1>will learn how to work with these energies more elegantly

910
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps build modern temples, modern homes, modern sites where

911
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:13.159
<v Speaker 1>we can commune with the energy now I would love

912
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to have somebody come on the show who can talk

913
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.679
<v Speaker 1>about manifesting with this energy. In other words, going to

914
01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 1>these cathedrals. You go to a dolmen or a sacred

915
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:26.920
<v Speaker 1>site somewhere, a temple, and you sit there and you

916
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.119
<v Speaker 1>think about what you want. You want to manifest. I

917
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:33.719
<v Speaker 1>intend for this to occur. I intend for wellness, I

918
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:38.480
<v Speaker 1>intend for the perfect relationships. I intend for a new,

919
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 1>good pain job. You keep doing that and it happens

920
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:50.719
<v Speaker 1>because you are working with the elements. You are in essense,

921
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:56.039
<v Speaker 1>you're an elemental, you're an energy being, taking in the synergy,

922
01:01:56.559 --> 01:01:59.760
<v Speaker 1>transmuting it through your body, and with the help of

923
01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:03.960
<v Speaker 1>this temple, the sacred site, you are releasing into the

924
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 1>world ten times stronger to manifest what you want. And

925
01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I think this is maybe what our ancestors did. So

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01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're listening out there and you have a book

927
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:18.159
<v Speaker 1>and we'll look into this as well on our side

928
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:22.719
<v Speaker 1>on manifestation with sacred sites, I'd love to have you

929
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:26.519
<v Speaker 1>on the show. And that's kind of like the true

930
01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:30.559
<v Speaker 1>cumbination because we've heard about going to the temples, we've

931
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:33.960
<v Speaker 1>heard about going to cathedrals, but how do we work

932
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 1>with this energy. How do we intend now? The elders

933
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:41.480
<v Speaker 1>I've worked with, the Mayan elders were very simplistic in

934
01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the way they worked with it, But I don't know

935
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.519
<v Speaker 1>if they had it right, because you know, their ancestors built.

936
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.960
<v Speaker 1>We don't have any paperwork. We have no blueprints, no codices,

937
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:55.079
<v Speaker 1>we have no writing. So I was told as simple

938
01:02:55.079 --> 01:02:58.639
<v Speaker 1>as possible, And I think Lydia agrees with me. Lydia

939
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:03.159
<v Speaker 1>d Leong that when you go and you simply intend

940
01:03:03.679 --> 01:03:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to have a good experience, I intend to have a healing.

941
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I intend to know more about this sacred place. I

942
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:18.320
<v Speaker 1>intend to manifest this perfect job that has enough to

943
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 1>live comfortably. I think you give it up to the highest,

944
01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:28.960
<v Speaker 1>highest good, and it manifests, manifests on his own. That's

945
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.599
<v Speaker 1>what it seems like to me. But if you are

946
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:35.239
<v Speaker 1>a working wizard, if you're a shaman, if you are

947
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.079
<v Speaker 1>a person who has worked with these energies, love to

948
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:41.519
<v Speaker 1>hear more about it. I can't. I mean, I'm here

949
01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in California, and although I'm in the San Francisco Bay

950
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.880
<v Speaker 1>area and there are some sacred sites, there are not

951
01:03:48.599 --> 01:03:53.480
<v Speaker 1>sites that are known for their manifestation. And that's what

952
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:57.519
<v Speaker 1>it's all about now. We do know locally, I'm in

953
01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the East Bay. In the North Bay, there's a place

954
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:04.400
<v Speaker 1>called Mount Tamapias and there are some magnetic rocks that

955
01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:09.960
<v Speaker 1>were used by the Native Americans that live there. But

956
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 1>I think the gut feeling I have about it was

957
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:15.280
<v Speaker 1>that we're for healing. But you know, if you know

958
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.280
<v Speaker 1>your stuff and you're a shaman and you worked with energy,

959
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you transmute it. You transmute it into a manifestation. So

960
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you get more food, you have a better season of crops,

961
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:29.599
<v Speaker 1>you find the mate you want, you have healthy children.

962
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:35.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a simplistic way to manifest and I'm

963
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.039
<v Speaker 1>wondering if that's the place to go, So we'll have

964
01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to find out. So there you go. Fun having her

965
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<v Speaker 1>on the program, Renee. Her book just came out, The

966
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Cathedral Code, and guess where I found it. I found

967
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<v Speaker 1>I want to think my guest today, Renee Schnitzler, coming

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