Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's happening? What's going on? What is
Speaker 1: rolling in your world? I'm excited. We have our first
Speaker 1: ever trip to Easter Island with doctor Edwin Barnhart coming up.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving in a couple of weeks, actually, well less
Speaker 1: than a month. March fourteenth. We head to Santiago, Chili.
Speaker 1: We all meet together, we have dinner, and we kind
Speaker 1: of lay out the plan and then we get on
Speaker 1: a plane. From Santiago, we fly to Rapahanui otherwise known
Speaker 1: as Easter Island for a week of exotic adventure. You know.
Speaker 1: And I've been kind of reviewing Easter and it's not
Speaker 1: really big, but boy is it pack withs anomalies. It's
Speaker 1: got these huge moai sculptures that weigh fifty to eighty
Speaker 1: tons each. There's still a big question on how they
Speaker 1: move those from the quarry. The quarries a few miles away,
Speaker 1: and there's no evidence of sliding them down hills, there's
Speaker 1: no evidence of dragging them. There's no trees on the island.
Speaker 1: They're all cut off, cut down, and so how in
Speaker 1: the heck did they move them to the outer rim
Speaker 1: facing the ocean? How are they moved? You know? And
Speaker 1: there's certain people that have gotten together with others and
Speaker 1: they've tied ropes on them and they've they've tilted them
Speaker 1: left and right and left and right, a slow pattern.
Speaker 1: But I gotta say there's a lot of evidence of
Speaker 1: electromagnetic anomalies. They're magnetic fluctuations that may have been a
Speaker 1: resource under the correct or special science to direct these things.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not talking about levitation, I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: anything that is too far out. But you know what,
Speaker 1: if a society is developed under a geomagnetic science and technology,
Speaker 1: it's possible that they were using this to move these huge,
Speaker 1: huge stone moi because they're huge. So that's one of
Speaker 1: the features we're going to be looking at the different quarries.
Speaker 1: There's a planetarium there. There's a number of areas that
Speaker 1: we go to. Apparently, and we've heard this from a
Speaker 1: few of our guests, that there is a underwater portions
Speaker 1: of an underwater city a few feet off of the coast.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how we observe that unless they
Speaker 1: have drones that they fly over and you can look down.
Speaker 1: I'm not underwater skin diver, so I couldn't do that,
Speaker 1: and they haven't offered that to us. But just getting
Speaker 1: on that island apparently is very very healing. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of great energy there and so hey, I am
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. So I will do what I
Speaker 1: can to get photographs, to get video up as soon
Speaker 1: as possible while we're there, and then we'll put up
Speaker 1: some galleries while when I return. That you can see
Speaker 1: on the Facebook page, our Instagram page. And guess what,
Speaker 1: I have a big announcement. We are relaunching our YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Earth Ancient's YouTube is going to be going up. We
Speaker 1: had it taken down, spit down for almost a year now,
Speaker 1: and people are wanting to see these guests and hear
Speaker 1: what they have to say front and center. And I
Speaker 1: promise before the end of the month the new page
Speaker 1: will be up. I'll make an official announcement where to
Speaker 1: go and see it. But we have had some problems
Speaker 1: with YouTube. They have an editorial board there, and so
Speaker 1: if you are publishing videos that are questioning our history
Speaker 1: or questioning the current paradigm and understanding, sometimes they don't
Speaker 1: like that. Why they would bother with that? Why they
Speaker 1: would care? It's kind of an interesting question and I
Speaker 1: can't answer that. I don't think anybody can. So we'll
Speaker 1: do our best to post only things that are legitimate.
Speaker 1: And this is the reason why audio podcasting is still
Speaker 1: the ruler that the top way to get information out.
Speaker 1: I don't have any editors, I have no editorial board.
Speaker 1: My publishing arm is iHeartRadio. We have a we're signing
Speaker 1: on with a new advertising agency, so you will have
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Speaker 1: Of course, I will not promote alcohol or tobacco. Occasionally,
Speaker 1: I'll promote cannabis. Of course, CBD products I definitely promote
Speaker 1: because I really endorse those. So there's some change in
Speaker 1: the wind, lots of change in the wind, and that's
Speaker 1: fun and that's good, and that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: As we begin and we are working our way into
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, let's hope for a quick spring, because
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, the winner has been harsh on everybody,
Speaker 1: so we're talking about everyone here in the United States.
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's the latest on what's going
Speaker 1: on with our trip, with what's happening with YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: and of course what is happening with Earth ancients. As
Speaker 1: we continue to expand and provide information, so isn't it interesting?
Speaker 1: You would think that the video channel YouTube would be
Speaker 1: able to you know, freely, you know, express points of
Speaker 1: view and things like that. It's not the case. It's
Speaker 1: just not the case. And so if you want to
Speaker 1: hear the raw data, unedited data, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: listen to Cliff and Friends and the wonderful groups of
Speaker 1: guests that we have on the program here on the
Speaker 1: podcast Audio Podcast. Okay, so what's been going on for
Speaker 1: the last several months. We've had people talking about energy.
Speaker 1: We've had the Megalithic lay lines with Annie Williams who
Speaker 1: describe the Pyrenees Mountains southern France, northern Spain and how
Speaker 1: they are plotted and how there is a magnetic geomagnetic
Speaker 1: lay line. It's a super energy highway that is crossing
Speaker 1: land and ocean. So we understood that. And then we
Speaker 1: had Howard Crowhurst discussing Karnak and the sacred alignment, the
Speaker 1: three four five angle and how that angle and whatever's
Speaker 1: inside of that angle is a sacred geometry, a sacred
Speaker 1: way to understand and align with these huge energy vortex's,
Speaker 1: these lay lines that run for hundreds of hundreds of
Speaker 1: miles and how our ancestors really determined that these are
Speaker 1: the sacred areas and they built their dwellings there. They
Speaker 1: used them for energy healing. We don't know what else
Speaker 1: they used them for, but Karnac, France was just one area.
Speaker 1: Then we had Chris Freeland, Christopher Freeland just recently talking
Speaker 1: about the stone towers. Now that was fascinating because we
Speaker 1: learned that our ancestors not only trapped this energy but
Speaker 1: identified it, and by building these towers it collected this
Speaker 1: information this energy, transformed it in somehow and then distributed
Speaker 1: through their open windows which are like vents. It all
Speaker 1: comes to a head today, or I should say a
Speaker 1: conclusion with the cathedrals. Our guest today is talking about
Speaker 1: the French cathedrals that were built by the Masons who
Speaker 1: were following the guidance of the Templar Knights, these sacred
Speaker 1: monks who had ventured into the Middle East to Jordan
Speaker 1: and very very likely, although it's not documented, very very
Speaker 1: likely discovered sacred geometry, how to tap these energies, how
Speaker 1: to build around these energies, and what was the result
Speaker 1: were seven to ten cathedrals that were built over either
Speaker 1: earlier dwellings, but most likely and what we were going
Speaker 1: to confirm today geomagnetic anomalies that they tapped, they tuned,
Speaker 1: and they captured the sacred energies of the earth and
Speaker 1: made these dwellings outstanding places to go for healing, for prayer,
Speaker 1: and for manifestation. And this is something we're going to
Speaker 1: learn about today, manifesting what you want. So these cathedrals
Speaker 1: are gorgeous. If you haven't been to the Notre Dame
Speaker 1: Cathedral in Paris, it's the closest one to downtown. But
Speaker 1: there's other cathedrals that are just as magnificent. And you know,
Speaker 1: I was in France about five years ago, and I
Speaker 1: went to a Notre Dame, I went to char Trey.
Speaker 1: I went to a few of these different cathedrals, and
Speaker 1: every single one of them had a energy about them
Speaker 1: that is very calming, very healing. I sat one of
Speaker 1: the front pews and I felt like I was being
Speaker 1: bathed with something, some kind of wonderful healing energy. And
Speaker 1: this is fantastic. This is exactly what doctor Lydia Di
Speaker 1: Leong was talking about when she was describing how these
Speaker 1: temples were built over, and of course in this case,
Speaker 1: cathedrals were built over these sacred areas that were tuned
Speaker 1: and transformed so that these buildings were radiating the people
Speaker 1: or bathing them in these energies and healing people. So
Speaker 1: this is what we want to learn about today. So
Speaker 1: it's exciting because we're kind of conclude voting the energy work.
Speaker 1: I did not intend for the programs to go in
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Speaker 1: the work that just evolved, it flowered. And so we've
Speaker 1: had these wonderful guests, these wonderful authors who have presented
Speaker 1: us with their understanding of how our ancestors captured, transmuted,
Speaker 1: and emitted these sacred geomagnetic energies. So today's program is
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Speaker 1: been talking about the last I want to say a
Speaker 1: month or so when it comes to subtle energy in megaliths,
Speaker 1: geo glyphs, pyramids and other structures that were left to
Speaker 1: us by our ancestors, and the energy and how it worked.
Speaker 1: How we talked about stone towers. We've talked about megalithic
Speaker 1: structures in Spain and in France. Today we're talking about cathedrals.
Speaker 1: My guest today is Schnitzler, and she has written a
Speaker 1: book called The Cathedral Code, Unlocking the Ancient Blueprint and
Speaker 1: Energy Resonance and Human Transformation. It's a culminating book and
Speaker 1: This is why it's such a great read, because it
Speaker 1: takes everything we've been talking about and condenses it into
Speaker 1: the cathedrals. The Greek cathedrals, which we now know through
Speaker 1: the templar Knights, were machines in many ways. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you a little bit about Renee. She is a
Speaker 1: laborate facilitator. She is a Dutch nationalist, raised and educated
Speaker 1: in the United States. One of the things I really
Speaker 1: like about her work is that she's spent more than
Speaker 1: twenty five years studying Asian civilization's sacred archaeola, archaeology, sacred architecture,
Speaker 1: as well human consciousness, and she has brought it all
Speaker 1: the together in this new book, The Cathedral Code, and
Speaker 1: we're going to learn more about it today. So Renee,
Speaker 1: welcome to Earth Ancient. It's great to have you on
Speaker 1: the program.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Cliff, Thanks so much for inviting me. Appreciated.
Speaker 1: The book is just packed with data. When did you, oh,
Speaker 1: what influenced you to start traveling to your your unit
Speaker 1: from the United States. So you're getting out a plane.
Speaker 2: I am Dutch originally, but I was raised and educated
Speaker 2: in the United States. And then I moved yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then I moved back to the Netherlands. But I've always, always,
Speaker 2: as long as I remember, being captivated by ancient civilizations.
Speaker 2: And when I started traveling very soon, I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: what's going on here, you know, looking at the ancient,
Speaker 2: the megalithic architecture and the perfection and the different Obviously,
Speaker 2: I went to Egypt and to all, you know, the
Speaker 2: popular places that we go to. So I actually started
Speaker 2: by reading like Graham Hancock and Sachariah Sitchen and all
Speaker 2: the classics Eric Vondygan, and I realized, you know, there's
Speaker 2: something more going on here than what we're being taught
Speaker 2: in schools.
Speaker 1: So when we were at these cathedrals, were you feeling energy?
Speaker 1: Were you Are you sensitive enough to kind of pick
Speaker 1: up on it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. I'm actually I wouldn't
Speaker 2: call myself a super sensitive. I'm actually more clear audience,
Speaker 2: like knowing I suddenly get information down that I suddenly
Speaker 2: know something that is more what I have. I do
Speaker 2: get some feeling. I can feel if places are high energy,
Speaker 2: low energy, good energy, bad energy, so that. But I
Speaker 2: really didn't get to the cathedrals as the culmination of
Speaker 2: what I'm doing now until really after this entire journey
Speaker 2: of going through to all these different megalithic sites and wondering,
Speaker 2: you know, what was happening there and reading up about them.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't actually until two years ago when I thought, well,
Speaker 2: I finally have to go to Sharks because it's on
Speaker 2: my wish list to go there and walk the Labyrinth
Speaker 2: that I had an amazing experience. And it was actually
Speaker 2: after I walked the Labyrinth that first I actually just
Speaker 2: kind of ended up in my bed not being able
Speaker 2: to move, as if something was rewiring me. It's such
Speaker 2: an amazing technology, you wouldn't believe it. And I was
Speaker 2: so excited to get there. I was the first one
Speaker 2: to walk the labyrinth after the winter, because they closed
Speaker 2: it in the winter you can't walk it. So it
Speaker 2: really had a real impact on me where and then
Speaker 2: I took the course the facilitator course Labyrinth facilitator course
Speaker 2: Lauren Artress, and she's actually an American pastor in California
Speaker 2: who has rekindled the whole labyrinth movement in the US,
Speaker 2: so not in Europe, but in the US. And I
Speaker 2: took her course and actually that weekend, I suddenly I
Speaker 2: was at the cathedral, and I looked and I said, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: wait a minute. All this technology that I've been seeing
Speaker 2: around in all these ancient monuments and buildings that everyone's
Speaker 2: talking about, they're all in the cathedral. So I identified
Speaker 2: like ten different energy principles that are that are in
Speaker 2: the cathedrals that I can find. And I don't think
Speaker 2: it's finished. I don't think it's complete. But there are
Speaker 2: things like and they're in the book obviously, but the
Speaker 2: ten principles, they're light there, you sound, sacred geometry, symbolism,
Speaker 2: ritual prayer, living waters, lay lines, of course, alignments, and
Speaker 2: the labyrinth. So all these work together in different ways
Speaker 2: on our different energy bodies. So I mean there, they're
Speaker 2: a machine. They're an energy machine that's there to harmonize us,
Speaker 2: to have an effect on your heart rate, on your brain, balance,
Speaker 2: on your biology.
Speaker 1: So talk about the Templar Knights. These are the architects.
Speaker 1: And we've had people on the show speaking about their
Speaker 1: search for knowledge that they were in the sacred Holy
Speaker 1: Land Jerusalem, and the thinking is that they uncovered not
Speaker 1: only sacred geometry, but also perhaps evidence or lost science
Speaker 1: on tapping these earth energies, these anomalies, that come out
Speaker 1: and using them constructively. Did you what do you think
Speaker 1: about the tell us about the templars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I think that that's what I found
Speaker 2: as well. I think it becomes a little bit more interesting.
Speaker 2: There's more parties involved than only the templar knights. What
Speaker 2: I found also except the templars, and that's why the
Speaker 2: cathedrals were built right around the time of the Crusades.
Speaker 2: And so the theory is that the templars went to
Speaker 2: Jerusalem and they actually they had contact with the old
Speaker 2: mystery schools, the Egyptian Greek Near East mystery schools, and
Speaker 2: that this wisdom that was in the wisdom that they
Speaker 2: received the wisdom to bring back to Europe.
Speaker 1: But also the kings of.
Speaker 2: France were involved. They were very deeply esoteric, like King Louis,
Speaker 2: Saint Louis, he was very esoteric and he was probably
Speaker 2: the patron of these explorations and the knights Templar. So
Speaker 2: they came back to France and then together with the Freemasons,
Speaker 2: the Freemasons actually built the cathedrals. That's what the thought is,
Speaker 2: and that they were also initiates in a tradition that
Speaker 2: use sacred architecture sacred art, and because they knew how
Speaker 2: to use likest crystalline materials, because the cathedrals are basically
Speaker 2: crystal palaces. They're all built with crystalline materials, and they
Speaker 2: used harmonics and sound and vibration, and they positioned the
Speaker 2: cathedrals also on top of old of course older venerated
Speaker 2: sites with I think that at Chartra Cathedral there were
Speaker 2: like seven different churches and temples before that, Like Chartra
Speaker 2: Cathedral is like the number of the eighth or something
Speaker 2: like that, and so they actually they were they they
Speaker 2: built them. So it's a combination of the Knights, Templar,
Speaker 2: the Freemasons, and the royal houses of Europe. And I
Speaker 2: actually read a book recently where they're where they found
Speaker 2: that there is a sacred pentagram around Paris which connects
Speaker 2: five cathedrals and it spells out the word Sako s
Speaker 2: a croo for sacred, and it's the Cathedral at Salt
Speaker 2: so it's s e n s, the Cathedral at Amien,
Speaker 2: at Chartre at Rems and Saint Omer and those five
Speaker 2: they make a powerful, powerful pentagram around Paris. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: And in the middle of that pentagram, it's not exactly
Speaker 2: Paris is just the north, there's a monastery that belonged
Speaker 2: to King Louis. Again, so we're back to this whole
Speaker 2: esoteric tradition that we've just lost, that we don't know
Speaker 2: what they were doing.
Speaker 1: I have been I have been to Rams in France,
Speaker 1: and when I we did a tour there, and when
Speaker 1: I went into the sanctuary, there's an overwhelming sense of
Speaker 1: not only peace, but I and the others who I
Speaker 1: was with felt deep relaxation. It's like there's something that
Speaker 1: worked there that shuts down your monkey mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and forces you to.
Speaker 1: Begin contemplating. It's the damnedest thing. Talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about how they I guess you did mention that the
Speaker 1: stone work, the crystall line stone, the glass, the light
Speaker 1: and just a general energy is all in symphony to
Speaker 1: create this environment.
Speaker 3: Talk about that, Yeah, well exactly what the science behind
Speaker 3: it is that all these different principles work in on
Speaker 3: your body, your different levels of body, and what they
Speaker 3: do is they balance you out, so it's you really
Speaker 3: get whatever you need at that point.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've had people go in and they cry
Speaker 2: and so they release emotional energy, but it balances your
Speaker 2: brain have so you can start thinking more holistically. It
Speaker 2: stimulates your creativity, It puts you back on your path.
Speaker 2: Lauren Arts also with all her work twenty five years
Speaker 2: helping people walk the labyrinth, she said what she sees
Speaker 2: most of all is that it puts people back on
Speaker 2: their path, their blueprint in life, what they're supposed to
Speaker 2: be doing. So, yeah, you get in touch with that
Speaker 2: in ourself. It just it, it's it, it's I think
Speaker 2: it's it's biochemical, it's it's energetic, it's it's science that
Speaker 2: we've lost and that is there. It also apparently shields
Speaker 2: you from EMF So you can go into a cathedral
Speaker 2: and you don't you know, you have an ecosystem.
Speaker 1: Yeah I like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that works on you. So it's it's the proportion. Also,
Speaker 2: it's the proportion and the sacred geometry. Looking at that
Speaker 2: and looking at fractals. I think that Lydia talked about
Speaker 2: that as well. Fractal geometry ordins our minds. It brings
Speaker 2: order to our system.
Speaker 1: Talk about the characters Claire and Thomas, they kind of
Speaker 1: lead us along, not are they real? Are they just
Speaker 1: telling this? You're telling the story through them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling the story through them. I actually got
Speaker 2: that inspiration by it's it's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: nod to the Da Vinci code.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it reminded me. I thought from it,
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, Renee is trying to make a script
Speaker 1: out of this because she wants to pitch it to
Speaker 1: the Hollywood bunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, I just thought it's it's you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's No, it's exactly. It's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a wink and a nod to the Da Vinci
Speaker 2: code where you've got the two characters. I want to
Speaker 2: get the same type of atmosphere of how we're uncovering
Speaker 2: these mysteries together and going on this journey. So that's
Speaker 2: why I use that rather than my boring voice, you
Speaker 2: know telling this well.
Speaker 1: I like it because it helps us. It takes us
Speaker 1: through the book and through their eyes. We're observing the
Speaker 1: various dimensions of this cathedral design and function, give us
Speaker 1: a sense of what you believe sacred geometry is, what
Speaker 1: is it and how is it used in these cathedrals?
Speaker 2: Well, sacred geometry. I spend quite a bit of time
Speaker 2: in the book on sacred geometry, also explaining what it
Speaker 2: is and what it does. To you, and it is
Speaker 2: something I want to work with with people. And I
Speaker 2: think it goes back to they're really the defining principles
Speaker 2: of what the universe is built out of. They're the
Speaker 2: patterns of what the universe is built out of, primary patterns.
Speaker 2: So what happens is when we focus on these primary patterns,
Speaker 2: we actually get information, information in our subconscious, information out
Speaker 2: of our memory. Its code, it's actually coded language. And
Speaker 2: this is really I work with it myself. You know,
Speaker 2: you can even put geometric figures, you can put them
Speaker 2: on your body, you can meditate with them, especially complex figures.
Speaker 2: They will really help your because your energy. You know,
Speaker 2: our bodies are energy, we're water for energy. They will
Speaker 2: balance out, they will reflect on our system. So I
Speaker 2: think they're very powerful coaches that we can work with.
Speaker 1: So if we look at short trays, which is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite that you figure feature in the book,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the cathedral, Uh short trays, Oh yeah, sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's use that as an example. Where would
Speaker 1: we see sacred geometry when we see it in the foundation. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the labyrinth later, but I mean that's
Speaker 1: a that's definitely sacred geometry.
Speaker 2: Right, Yah said, what.
Speaker 1: What's a body, what's a what's a prime structural formation
Speaker 1: in one of these cathedrals that is sacred geometry.
Speaker 2: Well, you'll see it. It's actually if you look at
Speaker 2: the way the cathedrals are built, there are built only
Speaker 2: with sacred geometry. So if you look at the layout,
Speaker 2: for instance, of the plan of a cathedral, you will
Speaker 2: see all types of sacred geometric forms, but the more
Speaker 2: complex forms like the pentagram, like the octahedrons, like all
Speaker 2: these complex forms are used to shape the cathedral itself.
Speaker 2: Some of them. You'll see it from the outside, you'll
Speaker 2: see that there are four sided, six sided, eight sided,
Speaker 2: but also on the inside you'll see the entire plan
Speaker 2: is laid out and structured according to sacred geometry. But
Speaker 2: you'll also see it in the design for instant. When
Speaker 2: you walk in, you'll see the vesica pisces. You'll see
Speaker 2: a Jesus figure sitting in the vesica pieces, which actually
Speaker 2: has like double triple meaning it's a sacred geometric figure,
Speaker 2: which is just talking about the origins of life and
Speaker 2: the portal. You're stepping into a portal into a different space,
Speaker 2: so it has multiple meanings and multiple effects, so you
Speaker 2: also see it outside in the design. It's also in
Speaker 2: the reflected in the proportions, so the sacred geometric proportions
Speaker 2: are used in the buttresses, in the design and how
Speaker 2: it's made. They're like tonal notes, but it's it's it's
Speaker 2: very specialized and goes a little bit further than my knowledge,
Speaker 2: but it's it's it's built in everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hear what you're saying. It's all kind
Speaker 1: of harmonized, the men, the carvings, the stonework, the metal,
Speaker 1: the wood. We're gonna take a short commercial break to
Speaker 1: allow our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return
Speaker 1: shortly with my guests today, Renee Schnitzler, discussing her new book,
Speaker 1: The Cathedral Code, will be right back. It's God, say
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. You don't like me, and we both know that.
Speaker 1: Can we just pretend we're grown nubs for a man
Speaker 1: and sata sir. If it's a case she you got
Speaker 1: away with it too easily.
Speaker 3: Can we je pretend we're grown ups for a man?
Speaker 1: My guest today is Renee Schnitzler. She is the author
Speaker 1: of The Cathedral Code. She has spent over twenty five
Speaker 1: years studying the details in the intricacies of these great
Speaker 1: cathedrals of Europe, and we are getting a sense of
Speaker 1: just how important they are for healing, for manifestation, and
Speaker 1: for environmental change. When uh it was it a year
Speaker 1: ago or maybe two years ago there was a fire
Speaker 1: in one of the cathedrals where the where the roof
Speaker 1: was was burnt.
Speaker 2: Yes, which one was it in Paris?
Speaker 1: That's right now? Was was Would you say that they
Speaker 1: rebuilt it according to because I think I remember hearing
Speaker 1: that they went out and they got special trees, they
Speaker 1: carved it according to what they could find. I guess
Speaker 1: they did the best they could to reproduce this sacred roof.
Speaker 1: But you have to wonder if how much it changed
Speaker 1: the harmonics, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's such a great question. And actually I haven't
Speaker 2: been since it's been opened. It just recently reopened, and
Speaker 2: I have the exact same question on what did it
Speaker 2: do to the harmonics, to the energy. I have a
Speaker 2: feeling I'm going to be working together with a very
Speaker 2: sensitive sound healer. We want to go to Notre Dame
Speaker 2: to see what type of work needs to be done
Speaker 2: there on the energetics. So that is one of the
Speaker 2: things that's on my in my plan and in my program,
Speaker 2: but I haven't I don't know now, but I'm I
Speaker 2: don't think you can. If you're looking at all the
Speaker 2: different energetic elements that make up a cathedral, it would
Speaker 2: be impossible to destroy all of them, because of course
Speaker 2: it's on the lay lines, it's on the sacred waters,
Speaker 2: it's built with sacred geometry using the materials. So but
Speaker 2: I'm I'm wondering exactly what did they change? Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: my point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. Lots of book right there, Renee, you
Speaker 1: got to come up with I think so too, the
Speaker 1: repair of Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what happened? What did they change? And you know,
Speaker 2: there are very strong esoteric traditions in France and in Paris.
Speaker 2: Paris is I think Paris is a book, and there's
Speaker 2: so much that can be written about that. But there
Speaker 2: are also, how would I say, some some contra forces,
Speaker 2: let's put it that way. So I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: they did to Notre Dame. But the interesting thing is
Speaker 2: when they opened it, the pope that opened, not the pope,
Speaker 2: but the bishop that opened the new Notre Dame. He
Speaker 2: knocked with his staff three times on the door to
Speaker 2: get in, and he did that three times, so that
Speaker 2: is the number thirty three. Wow. Yes, so they're using numerology,
Speaker 2: sacred numerology. So it's a tradition that is not completely gone.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's sacred arts.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: If the Freemasons were the ones, and we apparently know
Speaker 1: this now that who built these cathedrals, talk about and
Speaker 1: present if you can, what you believe is what I
Speaker 1: would consider a tuning. They're tuning one section of the
Speaker 1: building to the next section and doing the inner chambers.
Speaker 1: They're tuning and they're putting it together. So it's one
Speaker 1: harmonic device. How do you see them building these places?
Speaker 1: It seems like they really had to be careful, you know,
Speaker 1: because I believe in your book you talk about how
Speaker 1: the stonework was hand carved in such a way that
Speaker 1: it fit together and it's one gigantic resonator.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, to be perfectly honest, I didn't go
Speaker 2: into great detail on how they built it because I
Speaker 2: think that that's still some lost technology. To be perfectly honest,
Speaker 2: I think that we I think they're using some type
Speaker 2: of harmonic technology as well in order to build these
Speaker 2: I don't think it's all handwork. But I haven't been
Speaker 2: able to find and that when it comes to my research,
Speaker 2: so I don't really know how exactly they build them.
Speaker 2: I think partly is inspiration. I think it's divine inspiration.
Speaker 2: I did some research into astrology to see if there
Speaker 2: were some very interesting astrological events going on in that era,
Speaker 2: because I think that there is some higher intelligence, access
Speaker 2: to higher intelligence that help them build these cathedrals. I
Speaker 2: haven't been able to prove it, but I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a traditional way of building. I think it's inspirational.
Speaker 2: I think they've used it higher intelligence and it's been
Speaker 2: I think it was a period where there were developments
Speaker 2: that we've lost now that we don't know.
Speaker 1: And of course, if they're freemasons or monks, they're going
Speaker 1: to do meditative practices to kind of bring in the
Speaker 1: energies and bring in this higher consciousness. Do you believe
Speaker 1: that the I think you said eight or nine cathedrals
Speaker 1: in France are built over water aquifers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I took. I haven't researched all the cathedrals, but
Speaker 2: the ones I've researched are all built above water aquifer
Speaker 2: as wells rivers river beds, So they all have very
Speaker 2: strategic water places. And I've I'm looking into water a
Speaker 2: lot more even since I've written the book, and water
Speaker 2: is becoming more and more important the way I look
Speaker 2: at it, I mean looking at Masada Emoto, but also
Speaker 2: via Austin's work. I don't know if you know her,
Speaker 2: but the intelligence of water is really becoming very significant.
Speaker 2: I think in this as well. It's not only the
Speaker 2: physical qualities and the energetic qualities of water which are
Speaker 2: creating a certain resonance. They're adding to the resonant feature
Speaker 2: of a cathedral, but it's also the intelligence of communicating
Speaker 2: with water itself in order to achieve higher consciousness. So
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot more going on there when
Speaker 2: it comes to water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is what's fascinating, because we had Christopher
Speaker 1: friedlin On who wrote a book just came out called
Speaker 1: The Mystery of the Round Towers, which he gets into
Speaker 1: I mentioned to you before we started. He believes that
Speaker 1: these towers, and there's I think ninety six of them
Speaker 1: or sixty six or something, they're built over aquifers, crossing aquifers,
Speaker 1: and his belief is also that they sit on a
Speaker 1: Tolleric field. So the energy comes up through the earth,
Speaker 1: passes through the water, which greatly enhances the energy, and
Speaker 1: then it's transmuted through the body of these towers and
Speaker 1: passed out to these big windows. Kind of an environmental
Speaker 1: energy design. Do you think the cathedrals had that same
Speaker 1: effect of just.
Speaker 2: Yes, definitely, And I think it even goes further. I
Speaker 2: think it's an Earth cosmic combination. I think that they're
Speaker 2: also matching up with cosmic energies. So I think it's
Speaker 2: where cosmic energies are meeting Earth energies and are creating
Speaker 2: certain dynamics that we can work with that also affect
Speaker 2: the environment that you were talking about. I think with
Speaker 2: cathedrals it's the same thing. They're affecting the entire environment
Speaker 2: around them.
Speaker 1: You said something I'd like you to clarify a little bit, Renee,
Speaker 1: which is there is a cosmological connection between these cathedrals,
Speaker 1: the builders of the cathedrals, and those who enter the
Speaker 1: interior of the cathedrals. It's an unseen vibrational connection to
Speaker 1: the cosmos.
Speaker 2: I guess right, yeah, Well, I think what they're used,
Speaker 2: what they're connecting to, is cosmological energies. When it comes
Speaker 2: to all the planets, the Sun, the Moon, the planets.
Speaker 2: There's actually the it's also a cosmic clock. I didn't
Speaker 2: include that yet in the book because I haven't because
Speaker 2: I want to stay with the energetics. But there is
Speaker 2: a huge cosmological study and analysis possible in cathedrals. They're
Speaker 2: measuring everything, every cosmological movement going on in the sky.
Speaker 2: They're measuring the Earth, the Moon, all the planets, probably
Speaker 2: also in other galaxies. The towers, there's a Sun tower,
Speaker 2: there's a moon tower. They're counting all the It's very,
Speaker 2: very complex. There's a lot going on there, and there's
Speaker 2: some really good researchers that are on top of this.
Speaker 2: And for now, as I said, I didn't include because
Speaker 2: it doesn't and I'm not sure about the specific energetic
Speaker 2: effect of that.
Speaker 1: Uh. You mentioned earlier the steeples. To my mind, the
Speaker 1: steeples are kind of like connections or distribution centers. We
Speaker 1: talked earlier about the work of John Burke, who believes
Speaker 1: that the pyramids were pumping energy into the atmosphere. Is
Speaker 1: that a feeling that you have, because I think the
Speaker 1: signature design of these cathedrals are the two steeples right.
Speaker 2: Definitely there, and there's one a steeple of the Sun
Speaker 2: and a steeple of the moon, and they're shaped completely
Speaker 2: differently in order to reflect the different qualities of the
Speaker 2: moon and the different rotations of the moon and the
Speaker 2: rotations of the Sun and the rotation of the planets.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. There's so much science in there. Whether they're
Speaker 2: also shooting up energy. I have read about that when
Speaker 2: it comes to churches. So there is a theory that
Speaker 2: all church steeples are sending out the energy of the
Speaker 2: congregation when they get together. Yes, and I'm assuming that
Speaker 2: also is happening in the cathedral. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: So are you seeing that each of the steeples is
Speaker 1: different from the other?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're too, completely different. At sharks, they're completely different. Yes,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, it's great stuff.
Speaker 1: Uh. You spend a good deal of time in this
Speaker 1: this new book of yours a cathedral code talking about
Speaker 1: the effect on human bio fields. What is what is
Speaker 1: the effect? Can you give us some basics on this?
Speaker 1: Because you walk in the entrance of one of these
Speaker 1: and not every part of the cathedral is the same all, there's.
Speaker 2: Different, No, it's interesting. There's a couple of theories about this.
Speaker 2: One is that the cathedral also has chakra points, and
Speaker 2: that as you go forwards from the cathedral from the entrance,
Speaker 2: you're actually going from chakra to higher chakra, from lower
Speaker 2: chakras to higher chakras, and you will feel you will
Speaker 2: go from more base feelings to more feelings of harmony
Speaker 2: and more feelings of elevation as you go forward and
Speaker 2: deeper into the cathedral. Then there are also for instance,
Speaker 2: if you're walking labyrinth, then you've got more feelings of
Speaker 2: calmness of rest. It's affecting your heart rate, so it's
Speaker 2: calming down your heart rate. That's why you should calm
Speaker 2: and relax. It's affecting your brain, which means that's why
Speaker 2: you're going to get insights and you're going to get creative.
Speaker 2: You're going to get new ideas and new insights and solutions.
Speaker 2: You can have an intention you go into a cathedral,
Speaker 2: and that cathedral will probably answer your intention, because that
Speaker 2: is the different way. It depends on what. It can
Speaker 2: have an emotional effect, it could have physical effect your
Speaker 2: physical body, it could affect your energetic body or even
Speaker 2: your spiritual body.
Speaker 1: Wow, multily, Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's so amazing to me
Speaker 1: that these wonderful buildings were during the worst part of
Speaker 1: human history, which is the medieval period, were just well.
Speaker 2: I beg to differ. I think that the Dark Ages
Speaker 2: are getting a bad rep and I think they were
Speaker 2: actually probably very illuminated.
Speaker 1: Please tell us war, because I have never heard of
Speaker 1: any positive outcomes from this Dark Age. All I can
Speaker 1: think of is pestilence and plagues and writing teeth and
Speaker 1: shabby clothes.
Speaker 2: I think that history has been a little bit rewritten
Speaker 2: when it comes to that. To be perfectly honest, I
Speaker 2: think when you look at that period and you look
Speaker 2: at the arts, the culture, the castles. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: being in Europe, you know, I'm being in France. I
Speaker 2: go to all the castles and all the churches and
Speaker 2: all the cathedrals that when you look at the amazing
Speaker 2: arts and the culture that was developed during that time,
Speaker 2: it's anything but dark. It's very illuminated. And I think
Speaker 2: that it's been getting I think it's gotten a bad rap.
Speaker 2: I think a little bit it's been rewritten. I think
Speaker 2: the history has been rewritten a little bit.
Speaker 1: So maybe what we're focusing on is the bad aspects
Speaker 1: of these horrible plagues that killed millions of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of course the illustrations of life at that time
Speaker 1: do not look very rosy. But perhaps you're right where
Speaker 1: they're more earth based, less tech it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there was. There was a different stream
Speaker 2: as well. I think there were two cultures there. If
Speaker 2: you that, I'm not so sure if it was exactly
Speaker 2: that bad, let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: Even the tapestries don't look very inviting. We're going to
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Speaker 1: Renee Schnoltzeler discussing her new book, The Cathedral Code, Unlucky,
Speaker 1: The Ancient Blueprint of energy, resonance and human Transformation. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back with you. The book we're talking about
Speaker 1: today is called The Cathedral Code, and we're speaking with
Speaker 1: author Renee Schnitzler, who has studied for over twenty five
Speaker 1: years the intricacy, the inner workings, the emissions, the trolluric
Speaker 1: energy of cathedrals throughout France. Could you tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about the importance of prayer in these cathedrals
Speaker 1: as a form of using intention perhaps getting enlightenment, and
Speaker 1: how prayer is activated inside these cathedrals.
Speaker 2: Sure, I thought that was really fascinating, and because prayer
Speaker 2: is I think seen as very much a religious thing,
Speaker 2: but I think prayer is also a consciousness technology and
Speaker 2: is actually using affirmations and meditation to create and to manifest.
Speaker 2: And it's of course more powerful because you're doing it
Speaker 2: in this container where these energies are all aligning to
Speaker 2: actually make it all come true. So I think it's
Speaker 2: a really powerful place for affirmation and meditation. That's actually
Speaker 2: what you're doing, so I would suggest for anybody too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's actually bringing the soul back into the cathedral,
Speaker 2: but for a completely different reason. So now you understand
Speaker 2: what you're actually doing. Would you say that.
Speaker 1: Would you say that when we go to these places,
Speaker 1: we're plugging in to the system through prayer, through affirmations.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think that they're supernatural entities, cathedrals. I
Speaker 2: think they've got a I mean, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: go they're not a biological entity, they're not alive as
Speaker 2: in a biological life, but I think that they've got
Speaker 2: a supernatural aliveness to them. I do think they're live entities,
Speaker 2: So I do think it's system work what you're doing. Yes,
Speaker 2: you're stepping into a live system and aligning with it.
Speaker 2: So it's important to have your intention straight, you know.
Speaker 2: I think that's important that you know that you're doing that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd be I'd love to hear a story
Speaker 1: from you of someone that you work with, or a
Speaker 1: group that you brought in there, where you gave them
Speaker 1: a heads of it and said, okay, have your intentions ready,
Speaker 1: and somebody who manifested something, or perhaps even yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think I can. I haven't been working
Speaker 2: with them. I've just been doing the research now and
Speaker 2: writing the book, and I'm starting to slowly work with them.
Speaker 2: So I think my own example would be the very best.
Speaker 2: And what I did is I went to Sharta and
Speaker 2: I did I walked the labyrinth and I said, I
Speaker 2: you know, I was. I was so impressed by what
Speaker 2: happened to myself. I said, do you want me to
Speaker 2: work with you? Do you want me to work with this?
Speaker 2: And then the next day I went to work and
Speaker 2: I opened my laptop and there is this labyrinth picture
Speaker 2: on my laptop. The next day, after I asked, the
Speaker 2: labyrinth you want me to So I said, all right,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go work with you to the extent
Speaker 2: that you want me to. Because they are living entities.
Speaker 2: They can influence you. They you can you can communicate
Speaker 2: with them, but then on a different level. So that's
Speaker 2: that it's all about frequency. It's all about your frequency.
Speaker 1: So that sympology was kind of a markt for you
Speaker 1: to go, Okay, yeah, I'm gonna start working with these labyrinths.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about the labyrinth that chartrays because that
Speaker 1: is the most gorgeous, uh and they show pictures of
Speaker 1: it from elevated shots society. What do we know about it?
Speaker 1: I mean that talk about sacred geomephy. That thing is gorgeous.
Speaker 1: But what are we looking at when we talk about
Speaker 1: the lab What does it look like the labyrinth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's an eleven circuit labyrinth. It's very very complex.
Speaker 2: It's difficult, I think to describe. It's eleven circuit. It's
Speaker 2: one way in, you go into the middle and then
Speaker 2: you go back out the same direction. And what they
Speaker 2: say is it's got three steps. One is to let go.
Speaker 2: Then in the middle you get your inspiration and then
Speaker 2: you take your gift back out into the world. So
Speaker 2: it's a little bit like a hero's journey, a mini
Speaker 2: heroes journey. Walking this labyrinth it's I'm not sure about
Speaker 2: how big. It's big. So it takes you about twenty
Speaker 2: minutes to walk it. And it's eight hundred years old,
Speaker 2: so it was built when this cathedral was built. And
Speaker 2: they think it was built by the Sisterian monks. They're
Speaker 2: very very esoteric sect monks that knew what this labyrinth
Speaker 2: was capable of doing. In your brain, it actually looks
Speaker 2: like a brain, So what it does It works on
Speaker 2: your brain to get you out of your left brain
Speaker 2: and so you can be inspired and walk back out
Speaker 2: and yeah, it's amazing. I mean, I would suggest for
Speaker 2: everyone to go themselves and try. But any labyrinth the
Speaker 2: theme form somewhere else will also work because it's a
Speaker 2: question about this technology working on you. But obviously when
Speaker 2: you're in the cathedral with all these other principles around
Speaker 2: you and all these energies that really will give you
Speaker 2: the big wow effect.
Speaker 1: Is the labyrinth painted or is it mosaic.
Speaker 2: Dudstones, it's marble stones, and there will go really really
Speaker 2: deep it's marble, black and white marble, and a lot
Speaker 2: of them have been destroyed. A lot of labyrinths have
Speaker 2: been destroyed. There's actually only a few genuine labyrinths left,
Speaker 2: and Chatau is the most incredible and profound. There's also
Speaker 2: one of Amien, but there's only a handful of Many
Speaker 2: of them have been destroyed by forces that don't want
Speaker 2: you to use this type of consciousness raising technology. Let's
Speaker 2: leave it at that.
Speaker 1: Interesting. So, yeah, you're saying that the other labyrinths that
Speaker 1: are within these cathedrals have been destroyed. Are just one
Speaker 1: that's inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they've been destroyed. They couldn't destroy this one,
Speaker 2: apparently because it's made so deeply, like the stones are
Speaker 2: so big and they are so deep into the ground
Speaker 2: that they weren't able to destroy. It would be so
Speaker 2: much work to destroy this labyrinth, so they didn't, and
Speaker 2: it's actually been covered up for years and years and years.
Speaker 2: And it's thanks to Lauren artists from the US twenty
Speaker 2: five years ago that were actually able to walk this
Speaker 2: labyrinth again. That they open it every Friday for a
Speaker 2: couple of hours so you can walk it and it's
Speaker 2: quite a privilege.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, I have to say be a
Speaker 1: little negative here for a minute and think that the
Speaker 1: church probably was hearing about people having miracles as they
Speaker 1: walk the labyrinth or having transformations, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not what we like.
Speaker 2: I was exactly, You're completely right. Yeah, yeah, So tell.
Speaker 1: Us about your experience with the labyrinth as a facilitator.
Speaker 1: What does that mean, Renee? How do you facilitate people
Speaker 1: using the labyrinth?
Speaker 2: Well, what is really important is so they can really
Speaker 2: turn it into a pilgrimage. I mean, if you can
Speaker 2: walk the labyrinth yourself and just go there and you
Speaker 2: can walk it, but if you have a facilitator, what
Speaker 2: I just really do is help people to prepare for
Speaker 2: it so that they can get the most out of
Speaker 2: it and they could turn into a pilgrimage. You could.
Speaker 2: I help them so you can put it, help with intention,
Speaker 2: help open up the labyrinth, your communication, receiving it, closing it,
Speaker 2: adding extra content really so you can get more out
Speaker 2: of your experience. That's what a facilitator does. But it's
Speaker 2: you could anybody can walk a labyrinth, you know, It's
Speaker 2: not just anything complicated. It's just that if you're prepared
Speaker 2: a little bit more, you can turn it into something
Speaker 2: a little bit bigger and more impactful.
Speaker 1: That's great. You mentioned neural placicity in your book where
Speaker 1: you're having brain learning using affirmations and prayer talk about that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a great chapter where you're saying,
Speaker 1: this is an example of of healing and health.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I really well, I think, as we
Speaker 2: mentioned before, it's really a type of there's a lot
Speaker 2: of personal developments that you can actually do with a cathedral,
Speaker 2: and so I mean there's a lot of personal development
Speaker 2: gurus out there that tell you what you should do
Speaker 2: and what you can, but I think if you work
Speaker 2: with a cathedral, you know you're it's basically also a
Speaker 2: guru that can help you empower your prayers and your
Speaker 2: meditations and what you're trying to create because because of
Speaker 2: the effects the effects on your brain, you can actually
Speaker 2: it's you can create new neural pathways, you can create
Speaker 2: new way it expands your consciousness just by being there,
Speaker 2: So it helps your personal development. And I think what
Speaker 2: I really would like to do at one point is
Speaker 2: really use it as a coaching tool as a personal
Speaker 2: development tool, because I think, you know, it helps you
Speaker 2: do the work. It's it's an environment that is just
Speaker 2: so conducive to change to your own transformation. I think
Speaker 2: that is. I mean, from what I've experienced, it's changed
Speaker 2: my life really, It's given me the confidence and a
Speaker 2: way of working. I mean, you know, we've been following
Speaker 2: all these power places for years now, but in order
Speaker 2: to get that to a broader public, how do you
Speaker 2: do that? Well? I mean, cathedral is a fantastic way
Speaker 2: to do that. It's so tangible and it works. So
Speaker 2: I'm very grateful to have found, you know, this type
Speaker 2: of solution to also get people that are maybe new
Speaker 2: to this topic into this space.
Speaker 1: Is there something we can do in our own living
Speaker 1: space that would be a career creation of an interior
Speaker 1: of a cathedral?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there aren't things you can do. The thing is though,
Speaker 2: that a living space. I think Lydia doctor Lydia Leone
Speaker 2: talked to about that. I think it's really important that
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be living in a cathedral because you don't
Speaker 2: want this continual energy, you know, influence you. You really
Speaker 2: want to have a calm space. But what is important,
Speaker 2: I think in your own home is to really use
Speaker 2: some sacred geometry because that really harmonizes your space and
Speaker 2: you can use that as hanging up a sacred geometry form.
Speaker 1: You can and.
Speaker 2: Make sure also, water is very important, just to clear
Speaker 2: the air running well. Make sure your water is clean
Speaker 2: or your water is harmonized. So there are a lot
Speaker 2: of elements you can use that you could also use
Speaker 2: at home. But I wouldn't turn your home into a cathedral.
Speaker 2: But of course that wouldn't be possible anyway, because you
Speaker 2: don't have all the aspects. But I think, you know,
Speaker 2: but water is very important. I think geometry is really important.
Speaker 2: Look at your lighting, natural lighting.
Speaker 1: I use.
Speaker 2: I use my Solfredgio tuning forks in the morning, you know,
Speaker 2: I use the harmonized water, I use geometric forms. I
Speaker 2: do all this myself as well, in order to tune
Speaker 2: myself with some of these tools. That's why they're so cool.
Speaker 2: You know, you can use them yourself and apply them
Speaker 2: daily just to be more you know, more balanced.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: As we conclude, Renee, what would you like the reader
Speaker 1: to get from this book? I mean, it's it's an
Speaker 1: important look at the cathedrals, but there's even other messages.
Speaker 1: But what would you like the foundational message to be
Speaker 1: for the reader?
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's really I think that they're great
Speaker 2: personal development places, and I think it's really important to
Speaker 2: regain your heritage and your roots, reconnect with your heritage,
Speaker 2: with your roots. There is a lot of lost ancient
Speaker 2: knowledge that's in your DNA, it's in your system reactivated.
Speaker 2: It's really reconnecting to your ancient knowledge that's in your DNA.
Speaker 2: You've no you know it. You know it. So it's
Speaker 2: really about reactivating your own knowledge and applying it in
Speaker 2: your life.
Speaker 1: Reneehnssler, the Cathedral Code fantastic. Give us your web address
Speaker 1: and how people can get a hold of you.
Speaker 2: Well, they can look at wwwdcathedralcode dot com.
Speaker 1: Look forward to it. Thank you fantastic. It was real
Speaker 1: fun and I enjoyed the book much success.
Speaker 2: Renee, thanks Cliff very much.
Speaker 1: It's so refreshing to hear from researchers and authors who
Speaker 1: are beginning to understand that these cathedrals and these other
Speaker 1: ancient sites are repositories for energy. And you know, we
Speaker 1: heard it from Lydia. You're not supposed to stay Actually,
Speaker 1: Renee said the same thing. You're not supposed to stay
Speaker 1: inside these cathedrals for more than a you know, a
Speaker 1: short period of time. I think Renee Sa temples, you know,
Speaker 1: same thing. You're not supposed to hang out and be
Speaker 1: there because the energy is so strong and so cellular, altering,
Speaker 1: changeable and transmuting the body that you can't stay longer
Speaker 1: than that. You begin to get sick or you overdo it.
Speaker 1: And so that's the key, you know. I guess you
Speaker 1: had to have a sense of yourself and how much
Speaker 1: energy you can take. I haven't been in a situation
Speaker 1: where I could feel the energy so strong that I
Speaker 1: didn't want to stay, except for my story about the
Speaker 1: pyramid in Chichinitsa, the Great El Castillo Pyramid, the castle
Speaker 1: where I went to the top with a girlfriend and
Speaker 1: we were up there for about twenty minutes and I
Speaker 1: did feel ill and I had to sit another twenty
Speaker 1: minutes before I could go back down. I think we
Speaker 1: caught it around after lunch sometime when the energy was
Speaker 1: pulsing through. It was maybe the highest of the day.
Speaker 1: But that's important, and I think in future generations we
Speaker 1: will learn how to work with these energies more elegantly
Speaker 1: and perhaps build modern temples, modern homes, modern sites where
Speaker 1: we can commune with the energy now I would love
Speaker 1: to have somebody come on the show who can talk
Speaker 1: about manifesting with this energy. In other words, going to
Speaker 1: these cathedrals. You go to a dolmen or a sacred
Speaker 1: site somewhere, a temple, and you sit there and you
Speaker 1: think about what you want. You want to manifest. I
Speaker 1: intend for this to occur. I intend for wellness, I
Speaker 1: intend for the perfect relationships. I intend for a new,
Speaker 1: good pain job. You keep doing that and it happens
Speaker 1: because you are working with the elements. You are in essense,
Speaker 1: you're an elemental, you're an energy being, taking in the synergy,
Speaker 1: transmuting it through your body, and with the help of
Speaker 1: this temple, the sacred site, you are releasing into the
Speaker 1: world ten times stronger to manifest what you want. And
Speaker 1: I think this is maybe what our ancestors did. So
Speaker 1: if you're listening out there and you have a book
Speaker 1: and we'll look into this as well on our side
Speaker 1: on manifestation with sacred sites, I'd love to have you
Speaker 1: on the show. And that's kind of like the true
Speaker 1: cumbination because we've heard about going to the temples, we've
Speaker 1: heard about going to cathedrals, but how do we work
Speaker 1: with this energy. How do we intend now? The elders
Speaker 1: I've worked with, the Mayan elders were very simplistic in
Speaker 1: the way they worked with it, But I don't know
Speaker 1: if they had it right, because you know, their ancestors built.
Speaker 1: We don't have any paperwork. We have no blueprints, no codices,
Speaker 1: we have no writing. So I was told as simple
Speaker 1: as possible, And I think Lydia agrees with me. Lydia
Speaker 1: d Leong that when you go and you simply intend
Speaker 1: to have a good experience, I intend to have a healing.
Speaker 1: I intend to know more about this sacred place. I
Speaker 1: intend to manifest this perfect job that has enough to
Speaker 1: live comfortably. I think you give it up to the highest,
Speaker 1: highest good, and it manifests, manifests on his own. That's
Speaker 1: what it seems like to me. But if you are
Speaker 1: a working wizard, if you're a shaman, if you are
Speaker 1: a person who has worked with these energies, love to
Speaker 1: hear more about it. I can't. I mean, I'm here
Speaker 1: in California, and although I'm in the San Francisco Bay
Speaker 1: area and there are some sacred sites, there are not
Speaker 1: sites that are known for their manifestation. And that's what
Speaker 1: it's all about now. We do know locally, I'm in
Speaker 1: the East Bay. In the North Bay, there's a place
Speaker 1: called Mount Tamapias and there are some magnetic rocks that
Speaker 1: were used by the Native Americans that live there. But
Speaker 1: I think the gut feeling I have about it was
Speaker 1: that we're for healing. But you know, if you know
Speaker 1: your stuff and you're a shaman and you worked with energy,
Speaker 1: you transmute it. You transmute it into a manifestation. So
Speaker 1: you get more food, you have a better season of crops,
Speaker 1: you find the mate you want, you have healthy children.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a simplistic way to manifest and I'm
Speaker 1: wondering if that's the place to go, So we'll have
Speaker 1: to find out. So there you go. Fun having her
Speaker 1: on the program, Renee. Her book just came out, The
Speaker 1: Cathedral Code, and guess where I found it. I found
Speaker 1: it on Amazon, So there you go. Hey, if you're
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