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<v Speaker 1>Get ready for Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey twenty fifth day or April twenty five of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Here we are on a friarsday of Friday night,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means it's open mic time on the Ocelly

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<v Speaker 2>Effect and Ocelly dot Com Radio, which in some places

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<v Speaker 2>is now being called Ocelli Effect Radio. But I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't care, and I've had to reregister the radio station,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera for different reasons. Thankfully, the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>feed was only interrupted by an hour because of a

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<v Speaker 2>screw up at a customer service line. But otherwise we

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<v Speaker 2>have maintained and all the big bills are paid for

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<v Speaker 2>the year. However, no idea what it's going to cost

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<v Speaker 2>us as we now disengage with Skype, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>is starting to partially not work. Some functions magically have disappeared,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're not telling us why. All they're telling us

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<v Speaker 2>is switch over to teams. Switch over to teams every

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<v Speaker 2>time you turn the thing on. Anyway, it is what

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<v Speaker 2>it is, and most of you don't care, and most

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<v Speaker 2>of you don't call me by a Skype, but we

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<v Speaker 2>did use it as part of the broadcast setup. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna change we're gonna do broadcasts. We're gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>the call in show. But I'm determined to do that

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<v Speaker 2>one way or another, even if we have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Zoom, even if we have to go to Jitsu,

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<v Speaker 2>even if we have to use teams or combinations thereof

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<v Speaker 2>one way or another, We're going to get this done.

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<v Speaker 2>But we might not always have this steady phone number

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<v Speaker 2>that I bought, might have to disengage from that subscription

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<v Speaker 2>and get something else. So the phone number as it's

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<v Speaker 2>been since we started doing call ins on the independent

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<v Speaker 2>Ocell network, because before that other radio networks I had

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with their call in numbers. But the whole

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<v Speaker 2>time that the Ocell Network has been an independent broadame

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<v Speaker 2>casting unit, this is the number to call every show,

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<v Speaker 2>and it stands that way for now, and we'll try

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<v Speaker 2>and keep it. Three one nine five two seven five

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<v Speaker 2>zero one six. That's three one nine, five two seven,

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<v Speaker 2>five zero one six. Also, the new front page feed

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<v Speaker 2>will be there by the end of the month, but

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<v Speaker 2>people are a lot slower than I anticipated in getting

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<v Speaker 2>their edits back to me. I've got an article from

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<v Speaker 2>Larry Hancock ready to go. I've got another JFK article

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<v Speaker 2>ready to go, but I wasn't going to do all

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<v Speaker 2>JFK on my feed. You non JFK people got to

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<v Speaker 2>get me your articles quicker. And by the way, still

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<v Speaker 2>looking for unique writings from people, something that is not,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just part of the normal background noise out there,

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<v Speaker 2>an unusual opinion, something that's not being focused on, a

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<v Speaker 2>truth that's not being revealed, an angle, an analysis that

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<v Speaker 2>is unique that you think nobody else in the world

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<v Speaker 2>would want to hear about. Has to make some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sense. You can't make crazy accusations. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>print your death threats, at least not yet. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>front page of ohelly dot com. We're gonna start that feed.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do it by April seven, but again

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<v Speaker 2>people not getting their revised articles back to me quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>And that even includes a poet, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I'll take any type of prose, just

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<v Speaker 2>has to be good. I've rejected about eighty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of what has been sent because garbage is garbage. But

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<v Speaker 2>real things from real people that are unusual, unique and interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't get it everywhere else. Send it to me

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<v Speaker 2>info at ocelly dot com. But that's not the order

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<v Speaker 2>of the b a business for this evening. Anyway, my

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<v Speaker 2>co HOSBPTE is with me. I'm thankful for that because

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<v Speaker 2>it's Friday, it's the open mic time, and I hear

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<v Speaker 2>we need dogs barking in the distance, even though they're

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<v Speaker 2>not fully weeny dogs. They're the chelly breed over here,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are barking. They will bark from time to time,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe my costill bark. I got a surprise for him,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way in this first segment. But I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to hear from you guys out there. That's what makes

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<v Speaker 2>this show worth doing. Three one nine five two seven

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<v Speaker 2>five zero one six. Otherwise I'm gonna sit here and

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<v Speaker 2>hapen to have conversations with beat Pete all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think you guys are gonna like it much.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't love calling in, but you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>love it even less if it's just me, even Beat Pete,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to b s and then occasionally stumbling into arguments.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're gonna like it much, but who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's where we'll go. Be Pete, how's your week been?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's been kind of busy. I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>some stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Done out and caught up off the yard helping a

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<v Speaker 5>friend of mine go in for the year.

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<v Speaker 4>So it it's been kind of busy. Other than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Just so I was catching up on some news. I

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<v Speaker 4>noticed that we had a couple of judges arrest said

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<v Speaker 4>the past few days. Isn't it a lovely thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I didn't get the whole you know, landscape on

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<v Speaker 2>that story just yet. But do me a favor, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, when you're speaking, either get I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you need to get closer to the actual microphone

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<v Speaker 2>or further away one way or the other. You're getting

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of microphone distortion, and I want people to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to hear you better. So go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>tell me a little bit about what you've read so

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<v Speaker 2>far on this judge's getting arrested thing. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I skimmed the headline but didn't really go into it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, one of them is New Mexico judge who had

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<v Speaker 6>you may have seen a post on Twitter with or

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<v Speaker 6>New Mexico Judge's wife hired this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>To do some work around the house, and then they

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<v Speaker 4>ended up offering him.

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<v Speaker 5>A place to stay in their guest house and provided

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<v Speaker 5>him access to weapons. And the guy is supposedly a

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<v Speaker 5>what dagua was that the name of it?

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<v Speaker 4>TDA game member.

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<v Speaker 5>He snuck in in December of twenty twenty four, I

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<v Speaker 5>think in January.

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<v Speaker 4>This judge's wife hired this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's working for him, so they've given him access to

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<v Speaker 5>weapons with her felony, and it's a felony for him

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<v Speaker 5>to have possession of him being illgal alien.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, they arrested the judge and his wife for harboring.

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<v Speaker 5>Now the one today there's a judge up in Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 5>that apparently there was a illegal alien that had been

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<v Speaker 2>And where was that is?

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<v Speaker 4>In Milwaukee?

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<v Speaker 3>Milwaukee, OK.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And they were in court and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 5>what day it actually happened because she was arrested today. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>they were in court hearing or I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>they're ready.

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<v Speaker 4>To try the case.

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<v Speaker 5>The victims were in the courtroom, prosecutor was there, the

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<v Speaker 5>defendant and his lawyer was there, and the judge found

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<v Speaker 5>out that ice was out in the hallway and they

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<v Speaker 5>were coming to pick up the guy because he's got

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<v Speaker 5>a deportation order. He's snuck in twenty and thirteen and

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<v Speaker 5>was removed and snuck back.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, they get ready to try this case.

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<v Speaker 5>The judge goes out there, starts screaming and hollering at

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<v Speaker 5>the ICE guys and says, you need to go to

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<v Speaker 5>the head judge. His office is such and such. While

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<v Speaker 5>they take off to the head judge's office, she goes

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<v Speaker 5>back in the courtroom, gets the defendant and her and

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<v Speaker 5>his lawyer and takes them into her chambers and out

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<v Speaker 5>a non public exit. It's the one that the jury

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<v Speaker 5>uses when they come and go let them out, and

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<v Speaker 5>told them to get lost. Ice is here, he goes back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>now this you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Comes and all sitting there. So Ice.

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<v Speaker 7>They end up out front, see the guy chasing him

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<v Speaker 7>down and arrest him.

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<v Speaker 5>This morning they went and arrested her on federal charges

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<v Speaker 5>for obstruction.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there was one other charge conspiracy or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they snatched that. Okay, they snatched the judge of

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee for obstruction, I know that much. The other one

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<v Speaker 2>you were talking about in Las Cruses, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>that's a former judge right, and his wife was.

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<v Speaker 4>Just like a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, either way.

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<v Speaker 5>Once it became public knowledge that he was harboring this guy,

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<v Speaker 5>he went ahead and resigned or got dismissed, and so

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<v Speaker 5>that's why they called it.

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<v Speaker 4>A former judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, I didn't notice, right, just dismissed.

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<v Speaker 5>He said he's banned from holding any judicial office in

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<v Speaker 5>the state ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, So an impeachment without the process of impeachment basically, Okay, well, look,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what happens. There's a lot of things going on,

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<v Speaker 2>but that other one is obstruction. Yeah, and that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I've heard it. Now in an ice case,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or deportation case, that's the first time I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard of that kind of thing. But quite honestly, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it done before, where like, you know, a local

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<v Speaker 2>or a city judge is sitting there hearing a case

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<v Speaker 2>against somebody, and the FEDS are about ready to come

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<v Speaker 2>knock down the door and grab the guy right as

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<v Speaker 2>he's walking out of the court, and other people have

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<v Speaker 2>turned around and you know, found an escape for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But usually that's an Italian or Russian businessman, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, doing their thing. I also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you caught the news this week

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<v Speaker 2>about the fire and Jersey. That's what I focused on

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<v Speaker 2>last night because I have some insights.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, good are they arrested a guy for that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a nineteen year old, and I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>happened there that the news is not telling you. I

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee you. I know a whole lot of background on

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<v Speaker 2>this story. But I'm amazed that whether it's New Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>or it's the national or international report on this, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any insights as to what the hell was

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<v Speaker 2>going on. It sounds really crazy. Oh he's burning palettes

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<v Speaker 2>and he just left him there and no, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what happened, and I'm not sympathetic. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>telling you, I'm almost surprised this doesn't happen more often.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I covered that in depth in one of

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<v Speaker 2>the segments last night. But I also did something else

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<v Speaker 2>which I want to spring on you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I should do it before or after we start

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<v Speaker 2>taking calls, because I'd like to make sure we can

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<v Speaker 2>get some caller reactions to this too. But I may

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<v Speaker 2>have indeed found either nature Boy's evil twin, or I

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<v Speaker 2>have found an alternate timeline nature Boy. This is our

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know what I'm talking about. Nature Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy does announcements. He's now doing his own podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You know he used to produce for me, right. This

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<v Speaker 2>guy is a liberal and an atheist, but he looks

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<v Speaker 2>and sounds like Nature Boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Where does it live?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to disclose that, but he doesn't live

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<v Speaker 2>in a dissimilar area kind of place from where Nature

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<v Speaker 2>Boy lives. I don't know this guy. Well, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>a listener, but somehow contact was made here and I

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<v Speaker 2>was sent some video of this guy. He looks like him,

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<v Speaker 2>he sounds like him, but he ain't him. See nature Boy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know, is a is first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>is a Christian. Is kind of conservative in his viewpoints,

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<v Speaker 2>but a little wacky, a little strange. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>he's the guy who basically started naked News. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if you know. I think he gave

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<v Speaker 2>credit to you and you gave credit to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Either way, I started naked News. He jumped on it, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He just like made it a running thing. But you

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<v Speaker 2>started it, okay, Look I want credit where credits due.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, he relished it and really went after

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<v Speaker 2>especially the the meth heads getting in trouble being naked

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<v Speaker 2>and made it a steady feature on this show because

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<v Speaker 2>that's where his sense of humor's at. We've had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of conversations with nature Boy, and he's got that

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<v Speaker 2>very distinctive, good solid radio voice.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, Yeah, I would say that Nature Boy probably does

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of things, a lot more things than naked

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<v Speaker 7>besides naked news than we would like to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, even though this guy has been close enough to

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<v Speaker 2>me that he's been to my house more than once, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's been a friend, I kind of disconnected

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<v Speaker 2>myself from him because I wanted to kind of give

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<v Speaker 2>him a sort of a light kick in the ass

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<v Speaker 2>to go do your own podcast. Okay, but he has

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<v Speaker 2>a great, great voice. I always thought so. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>I differ from him a little bit in my political

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<v Speaker 2>views my social views for sure, but that voice and

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<v Speaker 2>even the phrasing. I'm telling you, this guy looks ethnically

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<v Speaker 2>similar to nature Boy. He's got a shave bald head,

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<v Speaker 2>perfectly bald, like Nature Boy likes to do. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>even got some audio here, which if you want to

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, that'd be fine. Have you ever asked Nature

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<v Speaker 8>Boy if he had a twin.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I messaged him on Twitter, and I know a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about his family. There should not be a twin,

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<v Speaker 2>not that way. But if you have no he's he's good. Yeah, brother, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but nothing like him. Okay, And this can't be his dad. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this can't be his dad. It can't be his brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't be uh Nope, they would probably be almost the

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<v Speaker 2>same age if this guy's not a touch older than him. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>but Nature Boy's a little deceptive in his age, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll leave it at that. But but either way, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is very close to Nature Boy's age if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not exactly the same age. He's got a shaved bald head,

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<v Speaker 2>lives kind of seemingly from what I can gather, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know this guy. Well, he's not a listener.

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<v Speaker 2>He may be listening now because a weird circumstance took

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<v Speaker 2>place where somebody put me in contact with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>not even because they thought this is like alternate universe

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<v Speaker 2>Nature Boy. But this guy's an atheist clearly, and is

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<v Speaker 2>an anti trumper, Okay, which is not I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>almost exactly opposite a Nature Boy, except Nature Boy is

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<v Speaker 2>not a pro pro Trumper, but he's definitely more on

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<v Speaker 2>the right wing side of things, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he lives in California.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so they live close enough that they could run

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<v Speaker 5>into each other. No, there's an old leon saying that

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<v Speaker 5>if you see your double, you die.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not showing anybody video and I'm not putting

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<v Speaker 2>these two in touch with each other because I want

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<v Speaker 2>to independent. And I said to a nature Boy on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 2>I may have found your evil twin and I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>it live on my show right now and I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>the audio. And he said, send me the clip or

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<v Speaker 2>send me the show link, and I said, okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>sent him the link. Now I have not checked back

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<v Speaker 2>since I did that on Twitter, and to see what

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<v Speaker 2>nature Boy had to say. I'm almost willing to bet

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna say, ah, that doesn't sound like me or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm telling you that. I turned around also and

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<v Speaker 2>I played this. You know, I'm thinking, well, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just nuts me and my bad eyesight, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. And I decided to play it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for missus. Oh, because again nature Boy's been here right,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's met him. In person. She's actually hung out

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<v Speaker 2>with him. He stayed overnight here, you know, just like

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<v Speaker 2>you did. Okay, Actually he stayed here a couple of days. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you crashed here? What one night when we were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go leave for Dallas and you might.

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<v Speaker 5>Have took off, And then when we got back from Dallas,

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<v Speaker 5>I got a couple hours before I headed home.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I mean you you actually have spent slightly

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<v Speaker 2>less time in my house on your one trip here

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<v Speaker 2>than he did. He was here for a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>a few days. Okay, So it's not like she would

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<v Speaker 2>be unfamiliar with him. But I played this for and

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<v Speaker 2>she and holy crap, if I you know, she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>think he looks as much like him as I think

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<v Speaker 2>he looks like him. But she said, if I close

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<v Speaker 2>my eyes, I'd think I was listening to the same guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you want to hear a clip of this right? Religion?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, I'm not for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you heard that part. Let me back it up

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<v Speaker 2>a little, okay, particularly can you hear that clearly? Or

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<v Speaker 2>does need to be louder?

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<v Speaker 4>No? That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 9>So the bloated Orange Doughnut wants people to report anti

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<v Speaker 9>Christian bias in the federal government. Well, now Veterans Affairs

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<v Speaker 9>is doing the same thing. They want folks to report, basically,

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<v Speaker 9>folks who are against Christianity.

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<v Speaker 4>God, no, it's your Boy's got much more facient.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on, hang on, there's more, there's more.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't make this shit up, man, Mike me, for instance.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate all that shit. I mean, religion.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, I'm not for that. I believe in energy, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in you know, love, and I believe in you know.

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<v Speaker 4>All that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But Christianity like sky Daddy, like daddy, are you listening?

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<v Speaker 3>Like no, I don't believe in any of that shit.

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<v Speaker 9>So I guess if I worked in the federal government

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<v Speaker 9>or in Veterans Affairs, I'd be in trouble.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>I figure, it's twenty twenty five. Let's get our heads

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<v Speaker 9>out of our asses and just be human beings floating

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<v Speaker 9>around on this rock in outer space.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it makes more sense. But try and love

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<v Speaker 2>your name. You know that'd be a good person. Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna get a lot of backlash for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Bugget okay, Now you're saying there's more bass in his voice,

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<v Speaker 2>But remember when nature Boy comes on the show. He's

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<v Speaker 2>got a good mic and it's picking up all the bass.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you that if you put Nature Boy basically

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<v Speaker 2>this is him on a phone like a camera on

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<v Speaker 2>a phone. Huh.

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<v Speaker 11>I can tell the party, Okay, you can tell them apart,

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<v Speaker 11>but are you telling me that this is not Maybe

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<v Speaker 11>you can tell them apart.

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<v Speaker 2>But how close is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Will? It is very close?

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<v Speaker 8>But if you played, if you played either one of them,

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<v Speaker 8>I can tell you who was who.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe I don't know if we had them on

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<v Speaker 2>exactly the same quality mic, because there's more depth with

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<v Speaker 2>it to his voice. On another I've heard him audio

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<v Speaker 2>in another place, in another way, and he's got the

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<v Speaker 2>same texture the Nature Boy has. This is again on

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<v Speaker 2>a phone. I've got another one here. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play the whole clip, but just give you a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of the clip, and it's in a different location but

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<v Speaker 2>still with the phone, and I think you get a

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<v Speaker 2>slightly different audio if you've got a good ear. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>my ears are ringing real bad, so you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>this moment I'm not great. But I'm telling you, even

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it electronically, like digitally on a graph, it's

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<v Speaker 2>super similar.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what the cult leader Orange Bloated Pig Doughnut

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<v Speaker 3>t Rump put out on social media yesterday. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you'll find this fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now you heard the deeper parts there that he's

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<v Speaker 2>expressing that are getting flatlined by the phone. You heard it, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you that if I put a similar type

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<v Speaker 2>of recording to this of nature Boy, it almost graphs

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<v Speaker 2>the same like your The uh parts in his voice

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<v Speaker 2>they graph like I mean, it's like they're exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>same dB. It's weird, okay, Uh, let me let me

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<v Speaker 2>just give you a little more of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to read it verbatim the day here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Bear with me. The radical left is only good at

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<v Speaker 3>playing the raft. They are always threatening our judges. This

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<v Speaker 3>is judicial intimidation and should be against the law. First

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<v Speaker 3>of all, yield Orange Piglet. You are the only one

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<v Speaker 3>intimidating judges. You are the one doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. You hear the difference there though, that's a slightly

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<v Speaker 2>different voice, different time of day for him, and you

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<v Speaker 2>hear the depth coming in right, And he's not intentionally

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<v Speaker 2>doing this for audio either. When when we hear nature Boy,

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<v Speaker 2>he's very conscious of his audio, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's got that that texture he's rolling with, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's got you know, a four hundred dollars mic instead

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<v Speaker 2>of whatever Mike is on this guy's phone. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you that with a similar type of technology recording,

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<v Speaker 2>Nature Boy and this guy, their their sound is virtually identical.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean digitally and also when I had a clear ear.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, but you can see where it's pretty damn close,

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<v Speaker 2>can't you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, definitely, definitely all right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm telling you he's got you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a similar eyebrows, the bald head, the whole bit

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<v Speaker 2>looks at like he's probably the similar ethnic mix, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, the whole thing. So anyway, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just crazy to me, and I want I'm waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>Nature Boy to get back to me. He has not

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<v Speaker 2>said anything about it. And I sent him the link

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<v Speaker 2>to the show and I told him, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I did it in the second segment last night

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And you guys can get that podcast or

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<v Speaker 2>it's in replays already in the uh in the the

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<v Speaker 2>cycle there the auto DJ on Ocelly dot com Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously we're gonna be broadcasting, you know, all the way

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<v Speaker 2>till midnight tonight, because Aaron starts at ten and uncle

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast starts at eleven. But in the meantime, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys can call in and tell me what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're hearing it, of course, you know, third hand

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<v Speaker 2>now through the radio and everything. But tell me, that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't sound like Nature Boy, you guys listening out there,

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<v Speaker 2>except for all the sentiments and all the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>he would have said wrong. But even the weird sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like you know, stop and go in his voice

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<v Speaker 2>to me, even some of the phrasing is very similar,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, if you if you pay really,

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<v Speaker 2>really close attention, you could certainly tell there's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a difference. But again, if he had an evil twin,

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<v Speaker 2>or this is him from an alternate timeline, they may

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<v Speaker 2>indeed have had different life experiences and there might be

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<v Speaker 2>slight variations. But I'm telling you, it's that strange to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe I have run into Nature Boys doppelganger.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, let's see, but you're not as convinced.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like BP. What's up?

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<v Speaker 12>I do?

423
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.240
<v Speaker 4>But I just I could tell them apart. It's just

424
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:34.799
<v Speaker 4>the mannerism to the way that they speak. Yeah, they're close.

425
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:39.680
<v Speaker 5>But I think even if you took any too copies

426
00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 5>of their voice and played them, I can tell you

427
00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:41.799
<v Speaker 5>who was who.

428
00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think there's a lot of overlap there, But

429
00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.359
<v Speaker 2>again it's a matter of opinion. You know, I've seen people.

430
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.440
<v Speaker 2>Remember that thing a few years ago, what was it?

431
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.559
<v Speaker 2>There was an audio out there and people swore up

432
00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and down that they said one thing or said another.

433
00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:00.079
<v Speaker 2>And people were saying, oh, that means you're break and

434
00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.079
<v Speaker 2>is wired this way. Or there was another thing with

435
00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 2>colors on her dress. Right, if it's green to you,

436
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.960
<v Speaker 2>then you're not that smart. But if it's blue, you're

437
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.920
<v Speaker 2>smart and you know. And then there was like a

438
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.319
<v Speaker 2>small group of people were like saying, well, it's not

439
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.519
<v Speaker 2>blue or green, it's actually silver, you know what I mean.

440
00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>It was a weird thing where they passed around this

441
00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>one image and everybody kept coming up with different you know,

442
00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.799
<v Speaker 2>there were these factions, right, remember that.

443
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.680
<v Speaker 5>That dress again, I don't know, I think it was

444
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:33.720
<v Speaker 5>on Twitter. Somebody reposted it. Somebody, you know, remember anything.

445
00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:39.160
<v Speaker 2>You were saying, was it?

446
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 5>No, I happen to see it on Twitter just the

447
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.920
<v Speaker 5>other day, somebody who was one of these blasts from

448
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:46.640
<v Speaker 5>the past or something posts someone you know put it up.

449
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Remember there was some audio too, of like I heard

450
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 2>them say this, or I heard them say that, and apparently,

451
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's same audio. But somebody said, oh I

452
00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.799
<v Speaker 2>heard him say a woman's name or or you know,

453
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I forget what it was, but it was like this

454
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.960
<v Speaker 2>weird kind of thing where they were saying, look at this,

455
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, we have different realities. And I thought it

456
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:14.640
<v Speaker 2>was just stupid, but it apparently became a big thing.

457
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like tens of thousands of people participated in

458
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>that mess. Do you remember the audio game.

459
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Vaguely? Yeah.

460
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's amazing how something like that becomes viral,

461
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:29.839
<v Speaker 5>how quick it could become viral.

462
00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, if I found a guy you know who sounded

463
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:37.480
<v Speaker 2>precisely like you, and then I got a picture of

464
00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 2>him and or you know, to me, it sounded precisely

465
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 2>like you were super super close, except he was clearly

466
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, of a different mindset. But then we get

467
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>a picture of him and he looks very similar, you know,

468
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:53.319
<v Speaker 2>like this guy at least bbpte's cousin.

469
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, good luck with that.

470
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good luck with that, right. I mean, I have

471
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:04.200
<v Speaker 2>heard tell of a guy who is apparently just like me.

472
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.839
<v Speaker 2>But that's a whole other story for another day. But

473
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, despite the fact that in Australia there are

474
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>people that say, I sound exactly like Alex Jones, I

475
00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's wrong with you. You know, greetings from

476
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:20.599
<v Speaker 2>down Under if you're listening tonight, but I you know,

477
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>it's just a raspy American voice. But this, this is different.

478
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it's really interesting when you

479
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 2>come across somebody who, yeah, we're all entirely unique and

480
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>everything else, but eventually you got to come back around

481
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.079
<v Speaker 2>to nearly the same combination of people. But then again,

482
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 2>what about the alternate timeline? Right? What about if somebody

483
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.400
<v Speaker 2>has actually, you know, knocked out of their reality and

484
00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>now they're just part of this one. How about the

485
00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:50.720
<v Speaker 2>evil twin concept or the you know, evil twin in that.

486
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't even mean to say that this guy's evil

487
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.119
<v Speaker 2>because he's atheist or anything like that. Don't get me wrong,

488
00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:59.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that the opposite twin kind of situation

489
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:03.559
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, imagine this me Pete. Imagine there was

490
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>a guy looked and sounded just like you, but he

491
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>swore up and down that Republicans were Nazis and that

492
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Democrats are the only chance that America has. And he

493
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.480
<v Speaker 2>also was, I don't know, a practicing Satanist, but he

494
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>looked and sounded like you. Other Wise, you know, or

495
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 2>how about this? He all that? Plus he's gay.

496
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 4>He'd be like, what's that on going out there on

497
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 4>a limb?

498
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm trying to go out there. I'm trying to

499
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>be as ridiculous as possible to create as opposite a

500
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:46.400
<v Speaker 2>thing as I can in my mind with you. Well,

501
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 2>there you go. But I mean, I'm working on it.

502
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, this guy to me, I don't even

503
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 2>know all the facts. I don't know all this guy's background, nothing, Okay.

504
00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying it's very weird to me that somebody

505
00:27:58.440 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>insisted on putting him in nine by the way too,

506
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:05.240
<v Speaker 2>and for a totally different reason, not because they thought

507
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:09.599
<v Speaker 2>it was nature boys doppelganger or whatever, but a reason

508
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll discuss on the air. At some point I might

509
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.960
<v Speaker 2>bring him on the air. We'll see, but maybe not,

510
00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you know which, Oh, by the way, I'll have Robbie

511
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Martin on next week. Hipaul goes well, but yeah, so

512
00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's just a weird situation. So I

513
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>just wanted to get your thoughts on it. What are

514
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>your thoughts about the whole doppelganger thing? And you know,

515
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>like you mentioned, if you run into yourself, you're supposed

516
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 2>to die. I've heard that kind of thing before too.

517
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 2>But what else I don't know.

518
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 8>They say everybody out there has a double I've not

519
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 8>come across mind yet or anything even close. So, but

520
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, I have seen some people that I had

521
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.079
<v Speaker 8>to do a double take because I thought it was

522
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.680
<v Speaker 8>somebody else. Oh, people that I do very well see

523
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.160
<v Speaker 8>a picture or something online and go, damn, that looks

524
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.880
<v Speaker 8>exactly like and then you know, try to blow it

525
00:28:57.960 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 8>up and see if there's what.

526
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 4>The differences are. But I don't see it that often.

527
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 8>It's just day every now and then I'll run to

528
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 8>call the photo of if you didn't know any better,

529
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 8>then set say, yeah, that's the person that you thought

530
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 8>it was.

531
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, in the days before the Internet, when I lived

532
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>in you know, the Asbury Neptune Township area of New Jersey,

533
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>which the area of New Jersey I focused on last

534
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 2>night during the news show is actually Lacey Township excuse me,

535
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 2>better known as Fork and River, where both missus and

536
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 2>oh and I lived before we moved to North Carolina.

537
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the area that just got burned up real bad.

538
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.960
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, I provided some insights last night,

539
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 2>But before I lived in that area of New Jersey,

540
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.799
<v Speaker 2>which it's not a giant state, but when I lived

541
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>in the Neptune Asbury Park area, I had a running

542
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 2>problem for about five years where people were swearing they

543
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:57.079
<v Speaker 2>saw me places that I could not have been, and

544
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.119
<v Speaker 2>they were swearing that I was wearing you know, very

545
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 2>similar looking stuff, you know, but slightly wrong. Like I'll

546
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 2>give you for instance, back then, Okay, the New York Mets,

547
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>they've always had a blue hat and an orange and why.

548
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 2>And that was meant to be a replacement for the Dodgers,

549
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the Dodger blue and the orange and why for the

550
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>New York Giants. It was to give a National League

551
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.319
<v Speaker 2>team back to New York City. Okay, that's part of

552
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>the inspiration for the Mets colors. So for several years

553
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 2>that's all the hats were. Nowadays, there are variations on

554
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Mets hats. You can get them in any color and

555
00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>all this. Okay, that's the way culture's gone. But back then,

556
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 2>I had a fitted Mets hat. Okay, you know, no

557
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 2>adjustable thing on the back. It was actually my hat size.

558
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:47.920
<v Speaker 2>And I had a nice you know, it was an

559
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.680
<v Speaker 2>expensive hat. But I had a fitted Mets hat and

560
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>it was blue and it had the orange and why well,

561
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.079
<v Speaker 2>people would see me and swear up and down they

562
00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>saw me with a black New York York Mets hat on. Now,

563
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't possible, but back then the Major League Baseball

564
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>did license some throwback hats, so it is possible that

565
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.759
<v Speaker 2>somebody could have bought a New York Giants hat like

566
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:18.039
<v Speaker 2>that as a throwback to when the New York Giants existed.

567
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>But they swore up and down, you must have a

568
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:23.240
<v Speaker 2>black New York Mets hat. I did not own one.

569
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 2>They would swear the guy was dressed similar to me.

570
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 2>They would swear that, you know, they saw him walking,

571
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>which I was kind of unusual as an older teenager

572
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>walking around as opposed to driving with my friends or

573
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:38.920
<v Speaker 2>driving a car. You'd see me on foot from time

574
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 2>to time along the side of major highways, walking from

575
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 2>place to place, and they would swear they saw me

576
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>walking somewhere in places where I could not have been.

577
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>A couple of times I chalked it up to, well,

578
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you just got the day wrong. Maybe you saw me

579
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. Okay, maybe you thought the hat was black

580
00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 2>but it was actually blue. But this happened with such

581
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 2>detail and strangeness a few times, and people would get

582
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 2>mad at me. I waved at you, I tried to

583
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>wave you down so I could pick you up. You

584
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>ignored me, and all kinds of weird things they would say,

585
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.559
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.

586
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't there, I was over here. One time I

587
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>was in New York for a weekend. I had spent

588
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>New York. I had an apartment in Asbury Park, and

589
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I had gone to New York City on like Friday

590
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 2>afternoon because I got off of work early, I blew

591
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 2>up band practice for the weekend. I went to New

592
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>York Friday afternoon and did not come back until late

593
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night. And the train, would you know, it went

594
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 2>to Asbury Park, and I walked about a mile to

595
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>my home in Ocean Grove. From the train station, in

596
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>Asbury Park, almost to the shore in Ocean Grove. Maybe

597
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.640
<v Speaker 2>it was three quarters of a mile. But that was

598
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>all I did that weekend. People were spotting me on Saturday.

599
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>On Friday night, they spotted me in a bar, all

600
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.039
<v Speaker 2>these different places they said they spotted me. I was

601
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 2>ignoring them, walking away from them, in one case, running

602
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 2>away from them. One of them even was trying to

603
00:33:11.880 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>claim that I was somewhere on my way toward an

604
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>ex girlfriend's house to my girlfriend, okay, telling him that I, well,

605
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.039
<v Speaker 2>he must have been cheating on you, because he was

606
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 2>going over toward you know, I'm not going to name her,

607
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.240
<v Speaker 2>but ex girlfriend's house, and he was going over there

608
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to see her. And she's like, but I talked to

609
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 2>him when he was in New York, and in fact,

610
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the other time, you're telling me that, Like, I brought

611
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.920
<v Speaker 2>him to the train station and dropped him off before

612
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.319
<v Speaker 2>he left, I walked home, but she dropped me off

613
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 2>at the train station. There was no way that I

614
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>got on that train to New York and was back

615
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>an hour later going to see my girlfriend, or my

616
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>ex girlfriend and cheating on my current girlfriend. It's not possible.

617
00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.519
<v Speaker 2>So thankfully I had a logistical, you know, alibi. But

618
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 2>people saw me that whole weekend all over the place.

619
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 2>You were walking down Route thirty three on Saturday, Yes,

620
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>on Saturday. I know it was Saturday because blah blah

621
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.079
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. And I'm like, but Saturday, I was

622
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>in New York. You couldn't have been. I saw you.

623
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:18.000
<v Speaker 2>You were wearing that T shirt, you know, and I'm like, well,

624
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 2>I owned that T shirt, but I wasn't wearing that

625
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>shirt and I was in New York City and they

626
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>would swear it anyway. It was just a weird thing.

627
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 2>And it was like five years of this running thing

628
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 2>that just gap happening, and people that knew me well,

629
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>people that barely knew me, people that you know, knew

630
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>me but hadn't seen me since high school. It was

631
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of weird. So like, how come you ignored

632
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 2>me the other day? What are you talking about? I

633
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.199
<v Speaker 2>saw you in the grocery store. I haven't been to

634
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the grocery store this week yet. I'm broke. I mean,

635
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 2>just you know, like all over the place. Five years

636
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>that went on, and then I moved out of the

637
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 2>area and it stopped. But I ever could solve that

638
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 2>by the bye anyway, and without time travel or you know,

639
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.639
<v Speaker 2>literally I doing all kinds of things that defy logic.

640
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I could have accomplished it, but

641
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>people would swear it. And I'm telling you it was

642
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>all kinds of different sighted people, people that did drugs,

643
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't do drugs. I mean, you name it. It just

644
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 2>it was the weirdest thing anyhow. I just love this,

645
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>this whole weirdness of like, you know, here's somebody that's

646
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of a copy but went in a different direction.

647
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Anyway, we got Jimmy James on the line.

648
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 2>You want me to get to him? Or should we

649
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 2>go into some news? What do you want to do?

650
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Be pete, Let's see what Jimmy's got to say.

651
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe he likes this idea, or maybe he's got

652
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:46.639
<v Speaker 2>something worse to tell me, or he's going to tell

653
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>me I'm stupid and it doesn't sound like nature boy,

654
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Let's find out from the man himself.

655
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy James, how you doing, my friend? What's on your

656
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>mind this week?

657
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 1>My mind's always a blink. Hey, yeah, that's a heck

658
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.519
<v Speaker 1>of a thing. That guy definitely at time sounds just

659
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 1>like Nature Boy, I mean in and out. If that

660
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>guy listened to Nature Boy, it tried too. He could

661
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>definitely do an imitation.

662
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Or vice versa.

663
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I bet, oh yeah, probably, But.

664
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you also, it's different quality recording. When Nature

665
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Boy comes on here, he's on a good mic. He's

666
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>on a good sound system. That's what that guy sounds

667
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>like through his phone. He does videos on his phone,

668
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 2>and he leaves messages for people, and he also posts somewhere.

669
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even gonna tell you who he is, so

670
00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>he can't even find him because I want to explore

671
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>this a little more, and he might wind up being

672
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>a guest on the show, not because of his political

673
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>views either, but because of something else he does. But

674
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.480
<v Speaker 2>totally weird. I think he's like, I really, I'm cracking

675
00:36:56.519 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>myself up thinking I found Nature Boy's evil twin. You

676
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>know you want a Mandela effect. I got one great

677
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>to have.

678
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Them both on sometime down the road. You gotta get

679
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>them both on, get him talk to each other. They

680
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 1>will blow everyone's spine right.

681
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Imagine this, Jimmy James. Imagine if a guy called up

682
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:22.079
<v Speaker 2>and he said his names was James, Jimmy, and he

683
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 2>sounded a lot like you. And he was on the

684
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>other line, he'd be like, what the hell. I mean,

685
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I would find that interesting because I've never heard anybody

686
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>sounds just like you.

687
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:42.159
<v Speaker 1>No, not that I'm pretty unique, that's for sure, but

688
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>good people. Well, the one guy did a great imitation

689
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>on me. He freaked me out at one time. He

690
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:52.639
<v Speaker 1>called in the first time.

691
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, uh, yeah, somebody did do it in the show

692
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:01.559
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. Yeah, somebody did do an imitation

693
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>of you, like a long time.

694
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Ago, right, Yeah, he did real good too. I mean yeah,

695
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>but I mean I thought that I thought that you're

696
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.599
<v Speaker 1>thing was playing an old show all of the sudden

697
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 1>or something.

698
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what the heck, Well, look, and that

699
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.280
<v Speaker 2>guy who did a good imitation of you though, to me,

700
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't you know it. Look it was I obviously

701
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>knew who he was intimate, you know, imitating, but I

702
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't confused. I knew which one was which, you know.

703
00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:35.199
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

704
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 2>But this guy, to me, I'm telling you, in the

705
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>right circumstances, I think he sounds exactly like like nature boy.

706
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

707
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, he's not even trying to do that. He's

708
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:52.760
<v Speaker 1>not even trying right now. If he heard nature Boy

709
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>and actually tried M I think it could get pretty freaky, yeah.

710
00:38:58.039 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Because all he'd have to do is really like hub

711
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>were on those loop points where you know he does that,

712
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, if he does that, then it would be like,

713
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 2>holy crap, it's the same thing. I really think so.

714
00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, and I grahed it. I graphed a couple

715
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 2>of parts where he was lower register on a piece

716
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>that I don't have ready to play actually, and it

717
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:27.239
<v Speaker 2>was like damn. Sonically they register to the digital recording

718
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:34.000
<v Speaker 2>almost precisely alike when they say similar things at similar speeds,

719
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>And I was just like whoa. You know, I think

720
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I ended up using like some of the curse words,

721
00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>like what the hell or whatever it was he was

722
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>saying there, and yeah, they were like dead on and

723
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, whoa, that's really weird. So, anyway, anything

724
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.800
<v Speaker 2>else on your brain today, Jimmy James, You want to

725
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 2>talk about the arrests of the judges? You want to

726
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about some other news? Did you want information on

727
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 2>the fire from last night? Did you hear that show

728
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:10.639
<v Speaker 2>by the way, yes? Okay, ah right, oh yeah, that's right,

729
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:13.840
<v Speaker 2>you were on Live and I'm telling you that story

730
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 2>about Jersey, which Bpte hasn't heard yet, so maybe I'll

731
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>save it for him to hear the podcast. But that's

732
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the reality of that area of Jersey. You've heard me

733
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:27.079
<v Speaker 2>mentioned this before, b Pete, where I used to call

734
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:31.960
<v Speaker 2>these guys wickers. Yeah, okay, and it's because they were

735
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 2>somewhere in between like a crossbreed of a hick and

736
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 2>a white guy trying to be black. So they'd be like,

737
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:42.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm going out in my mud truck, yo. You know,

738
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.599
<v Speaker 2>they'd be spitting, chewing tobacco juice out and smoking the

739
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 2>blood same time. I mean, it was just weird, and

740
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 2>it was that culture of what we call in Jersey

741
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Piney's because they spend a lot of times in the pinelands.

742
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And if you notice, that's what burned up. But that

743
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 2>town they called Lacey is also known as Forkid River

744
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and is a parkway exit right, and of course they

745
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 2>had to close down the parkway and all that stuff.

746
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 2>And we know missus, oh, and I know that area

747
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>real well. That's where we lived before we moved to

748
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 2>North Carolina together, so it's where we got together. That

749
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 2>town even and it's a weird culture, especially among the kids.

750
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not surprised. This is a nineteen year old,

751
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, and a whole bit so this kid, I

752
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.599
<v Speaker 2>guarantee you, was out there, and they used to do

753
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>the bonfire thing with the with the pallettes all the time.

754
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>They would steal them, they'd offer to buy them, they'd

755
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.880
<v Speaker 2>look for if they were broken ones in the parking lot,

756
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 2>at the grocery store, all over the place. It was

757
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:43.360
<v Speaker 2>a big thing to get a hold of the wooden

758
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.760
<v Speaker 2>pallets and they'd go out in the mud truck and yeah,

759
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>make a big bonfire after getting all muddy and all

760
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.280
<v Speaker 2>set up and all that, and they would drink and

761
00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>then other drugs got into it too, but a lot

762
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 2>of weed, a lot of beer for underage guys. And yeah,

763
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:00.840
<v Speaker 2>this was a big move.

764
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 4>You know.

765
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:03.760
<v Speaker 2>You take girls out there and they're cut off, shorts,

766
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>no shoes, and next thing you know, you're both rolling

767
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:07.719
<v Speaker 2>around in the mud.

768
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 11>Uh.

769
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 2>And it was just the thing for these like teenagers mostly,

770
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.320
<v Speaker 2>but you know, into their mid twenties or so, big,

771
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.119
<v Speaker 2>big time in that area. And I guarantee you when

772
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>they said they were going to charge other people, that

773
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 2>was other people out on that particular mud truck excursion

774
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 2>out into the bonfires. So that's what I guarantee happened there.

775
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.880
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I'm almost shocked it doesn't happen more because

776
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:34.960
<v Speaker 2>these kids are not exactly the most responsible human beings,

777
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and they're lighting fires in the woods and if you

778
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>don't put that out properly, you know, I even said

779
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:42.519
<v Speaker 2>during the broadcast, I think you know we're's Smoky the

780
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Bear when you need them, uh, because you know, you

781
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 2>only you can prevent forest fires. Smoky the Bear. They

782
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 2>used to have signs of them in Jersey. I don't

783
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 2>know if they teach these kids that anymore, but definitely

784
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.000
<v Speaker 2>they need to teach them to put out the day

785
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>fires in the woods because otherwise crazy stuff happens. And

786
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.679
<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of acreage for a small state like Jersey,

787
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.960
<v Speaker 2>you know. So anyway, but you.

788
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Saw, yeah for sure.

789
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, it's a drop in the bucket for California.

790
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:20.800
<v Speaker 1>It's probably, like you say, especially since it started at

791
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 1>four tawny.

792
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 2>So I promise you it was like, yeah, four to twenty.

793
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.800
<v Speaker 2>They were out there smoking weed because it's four twenty, Yeah,

794
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 2>four to twenty, and the smoking weed and somebody was

795
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>lazy and just didn't put out the damn bonfire. And

796
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 2>so I don't know if that's arson or you know,

797
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:42.719
<v Speaker 2>because they're saying, oh, it's arson, and this and that

798
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 2>and blah, and thankfully nobody was killed. Some businesses were destroyed,

799
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of acreage, but you know, there we go,

800
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:51.760
<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of acreage that's no longer going to

801
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>have any protection anymore. And this happens every time a

802
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.559
<v Speaker 2>massive fire happens in that part of Jersey, as they go, well,

803
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 2>screw it, let's develop it into something so they will,

804
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Uh that could.

805
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Be could be something going on there, chuck, because I

806
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.039
<v Speaker 1>know I read a year or two that the Pines

807
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:14.280
<v Speaker 1>was absorbed by another bigger town. Yeah, that was like

808
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 1>a thing going on in Jersey.

809
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But the Pinelands, Okay, there's always something going on

810
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 2>with that. The Pinelands is an area that encompasses several

811
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>many towns.

812
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

813
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 2>In fact, it goes across one, two, three counties that

814
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.079
<v Speaker 2>they call the Pinelands. And some of it looks like

815
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, in that that episode of The Sopranos. I

816
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>don't know, if you guys watch the Sopranos, But they

817
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 2>have an episode called the Pinelands, and the story is,

818
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:44.599
<v Speaker 2>the two of them go out there, right, they get

819
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 2>stuck and they get lost in the woods trying to

820
00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.280
<v Speaker 2>go get rid of this Russian guy. And the Russian

821
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>guy gets away, but they shot him and they never

822
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.679
<v Speaker 2>see him again, and they know, they don't know what happened,

823
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 2>but their car disappears and they end up in the

824
00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 2>middle of the Pinelands overnight and almost freeze to death. Well,

825
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a real thing, number one. Number two. It's just

826
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a big, huge area which also happens to surround those

827
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.519
<v Speaker 2>three military bases I tell you about. They describe it

828
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 2>as a joint thing, but it's three separate military bases McGuire,

829
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Fort Dix and Lakers Naval Air, which Lakers Naval Air

830
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.199
<v Speaker 2>is the place where the Hindenburg crashed. Right Surrounding those

831
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 2>military bases is what they call the Pinelands. All sorts

832
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.440
<v Speaker 2>of piney piney trees, And like I said, they call

833
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 2>the people that live there and kind of engage in

834
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that culture and are sort of very like hick Ish

835
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 2>or hill billy ish. They call them pineys. You know.

836
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>They've also been called South Jersey stump jumpers before, and

837
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 2>there's the legends about the albinos that live in the pinelands,

838
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and there's lost people out there that never across over

839
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 2>we're into society, and every once in a while somebody

840
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:04.679
<v Speaker 2>goes out there and they murder them, you know, the

841
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>urban legend and all that. Plus that is also the

842
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>area where the Jersey Devil is supposed to have been spawned.

843
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Just saying, oh that guy, Yeah, that guy's been around,

844
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:17.639
<v Speaker 1>that Jersey Devil.

845
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for hundreds of years. There's been sightings of the

846
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 2>quote Jersey team here, right, Yeah, Well, the natives had

847
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>ideas about this crazy creature and then you know, it's

848
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 2>been a legend ever since, and so much so that

849
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 2>what they named the hockey team, right, the New Jersey

850
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Devils is named after this, this legend in New Jersey

851
00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>of the Jersey Devil, that woman who had her thirteenth

852
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:46.159
<v Speaker 2>child and it was cursed and this and that, and

853
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 2>the thing freaked out and flew out the window. Because

854
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:52.639
<v Speaker 2>it's sprouted wings and it's got all kinds of descriptions.

855
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 2>But people up to this day swear up and down

856
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.280
<v Speaker 2>that they've cited this insane creature that's had like everything

857
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:02.840
<v Speaker 2>from a dragon head to a devil head, to bat

858
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 2>wings and spikes on its back, and all kinds of

859
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:10.719
<v Speaker 2>crazy things like otherworldly demonic in some cases, I mean

860
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>somewhere between an alligator and a demon. This thing looks

861
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:23.360
<v Speaker 2>like and supposedly roaming the woods in Jersey, the Pinelands,

862
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe is that burned up? Even in third grade, to

863
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, when I was in third grade

864
00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.960
<v Speaker 2>in Long Branch, the only new textbook they bought, and

865
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:35.960
<v Speaker 2>believe me, we had old ass textbooks, you know, to

866
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the point where the last president listed was was you know,

867
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy preassassination, right, And.

868
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I had those, Yeah, I had those great textbooks where

869
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Reagan was governor instead of president. Stuff like that.

870
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

871
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 3>So.

872
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.360
<v Speaker 2>But one of the new textbooks they actually bought when

873
00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 2>I was in third grade and Long Branch in the

874
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 2>school system there, and by the way, they closed my

875
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>school after that, because that school had been in operation

876
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:08.119
<v Speaker 2>since the eighteen hundreds, they closed it. But the only

877
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.519
<v Speaker 2>new book they bought was this like workbook slash textbook

878
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:17.599
<v Speaker 2>about guess what the Jersey Devil. And it had a

879
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 2>couple of minor sections on like regular Jersey history, but

880
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.119
<v Speaker 2>the majority of the book was about the Jersey Devil.

881
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was.

882
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, I had to have been a local guy I

883
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 1>wrote it. I mean a Jersey guy had to have

884
00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>wrote it. Maybe he managed to sell it off to

885
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:43.559
<v Speaker 1>the education people. Yeah, if I'm guessing that's to do

886
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.039
<v Speaker 1>it here with our kind of local legend type thing.

887
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I because there was a congressman from from a

888
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.440
<v Speaker 2>long branch and all that, and he had all sorts

889
00:48:55.480 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 2>of little deals on the side. It's so funny because

890
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:03.800
<v Speaker 2>his father ran you ready for this next to the

891
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.559
<v Speaker 2>bar that I tell stories about where I was shooting

892
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 2>pool and all that. But right next to the bar,

893
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 2>he had a little business that was a ready detective agency,

894
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:19.079
<v Speaker 2>used car lot, slash Christmas tree lot, and it functioned

895
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:20.840
<v Speaker 2>as all three things, and it was just a big

896
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 2>parking lot that got changed over between those three things

897
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 2>over the course of a year, and always the detective

898
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.639
<v Speaker 2>agency was open, and lots of things went on in

899
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>that building that I knew about that had nothing to

900
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>do with either one of those or any of those

901
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>three businesses, but he did. He sold Christmas trees, used cars,

902
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and also he was a private detective that was his father.

903
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:45.639
<v Speaker 2>He became a conversation.

904
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 1>If he had a sign offering all three of those

905
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>services at once, then I bet he would have gotten

906
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:54.199
<v Speaker 1>some special attention.

907
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no, the sign would change. Like when it

908
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>was Christmas Tree lot time, all the cars would be,

909
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, parked very carefully in the back and all

910
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you'd see is Christmas trees and it was the Christmas

911
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Tree Lot. Then after you know, Christmas was over, the

912
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.719
<v Speaker 2>cars would come back up front and sometimes it would

913
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 2>say it was a used car lot, and other times

914
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 2>you'd see a sign for the Private Detective Agency and

915
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>they would just keep switching the sign on the same post,

916
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.320
<v Speaker 2>big big huge post with a big plate they got

917
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>switched for each one of the businesses and it would

918
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>light up the plate. So and that was right next

919
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 2>to what they called the Alehouse or the American Bar,

920
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.400
<v Speaker 2>depending on what time period. It was right there on

921
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Broadway and Long Branch. So anyway, that's what went on there.

922
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 2>But that guy, I could imagine him making a deal

923
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 2>with somebody who was his friend or somebody he owed

924
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.480
<v Speaker 2>something to or whatever, Hey get my book into the schools,

925
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.840
<v Speaker 2>and maybe that's what it was. He might be right.

926
00:50:56.400 --> 00:51:00.880
<v Speaker 2>His name is yeah, his name is alone. I think

927
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 2>his son just retired from being a congressman not long ago. Polone,

928
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Frank Polone.

929
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:14.159
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Yeah, okay, I know it bugs the audience, but

930
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>too bad, too said, until someone close in. I want

931
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to talk to FK.

932
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, go for it.

933
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 13>All right?

934
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, actually I have questions. I can't remember that guy

935
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that was in Cuban jail with the last name car

936
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:33.519
<v Speaker 1>That was a fake name. What was his real name?

937
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 2>H bpte. I am drawing a blank. I know what

938
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:48.400
<v Speaker 2>he's referring to car Yeah.

939
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 4>A r R or k E r R or I think.

940
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 2>It was c A r R.

941
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I remember, right, yes, but it's a fake name. But

942
00:51:57.880 --> 00:51:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that's what he was going by when he was in

943
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>jail in Cuba. But I can't think of his real

944
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:04.880
<v Speaker 1>name right now, and it's really bugging me.

945
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of it. I can't. I'm drawing

946
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 2>a blank to be honest with you.

947
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 5>Richard Randolph car.

948
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 2>Well again, like he said, it was an assumed name.

949
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 4>It was in jail in Cuba.

950
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I remember he was a bugger.

951
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>See. I'm thinking the prison was like the Cabana or

952
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.119
<v Speaker 2>something like that prison I just can't think of this

953
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 2>guy's name. Damn. You know this is this is when

954
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 2>you can't. And there was some confusion too, because there

955
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.239
<v Speaker 2>was a Cuban guy who had a name like Carr,

956
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:07.840
<v Speaker 2>but it was Coorista or something like that, and that

957
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was a mix up and it wasn't this guy either.

958
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 2>He's right, it's a fake name that was given and

959
00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 2>this guy was imprisoned under the fake name, and I

960
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 2>just can't think of who the hell it is.

961
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really bug milk, because last night I reread

962
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that manuscript, or actually the notes on the manuscript that

963
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.679
<v Speaker 1>was written by Howard Hunt, and he was using his

964
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>fake name from back then, Hamilton. Yeah, right, even though

965
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:44.800
<v Speaker 1>all the Cubis were under the impression that he was Eduardo,

966
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. And yet his official cover name was something

967
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.039
<v Speaker 1>something Hamilton. What the hell.

968
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Stupid question for you? It wasn't the That wasn't the

969
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:57.159
<v Speaker 2>fake name that Brengair gave.

970
00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Was it Carl Springer?

971
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't the because when.

972
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Nah, it wasn't him, because this guy was a legitimate

973
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>CIA agent. Okay, look, I mean lucky for him, they

974
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>never realized it. That was just his cover.

975
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Name, right, no, I just I just.

976
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Made coming up in that. It kept coming up in

977
00:54:23.159 --> 00:54:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that E. Howard Hunt's manuscript of a book to see.

978
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I got hold of the manuscript and it's in the records,

979
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and he kept referencing. He referenced that jail and that

980
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>guy car and I was like, oh, yeah, but that's

981
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:42.920
<v Speaker 1>not his real name. And I was trying to remember

982
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 1>his real name.

983
00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, it wasn't the original manuscript. Forgive us this day, right,

984
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:48.199
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that.

985
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:53.840
<v Speaker 1>It was that's the book, that's the it's the notes

986
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>on that manuscript.

987
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay. See, I'm telling you, I'm all around it in

988
00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:02.639
<v Speaker 2>my brain. It's so hard to remember every single detail

989
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 2>on these things. B Pete. I mean, do you do

990
00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:08.840
<v Speaker 2>you have any any clue on this? I'm reaching for

991
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:10.079
<v Speaker 2>it and I can't quite get it.

992
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:10.280
<v Speaker 14>Man.

993
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:11.239
<v Speaker 2>It's one of these, you know.

994
00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Well, what did the guy do other than

995
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:15.039
<v Speaker 4>go to jail in Cuba?

996
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that would help.

997
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, he got caught. He got caught bugging. He used

998
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:27.119
<v Speaker 1>to install electrial devices. That's why he went to prison. Okay,

999
00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>but this is they thought that he was in with

1000
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the Mafield, but he wasn't.

1001
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so Castro put him in prison though, right, yes, okay,

1002
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 2>so it's during that time period, and they did catch

1003
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of you there's a handful of CIA guys

1004
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:47.039
<v Speaker 2>that they caught through in prison and then you know,

1005
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>they paid the fine, so to speak, and they got out.

1006
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 2>And he must have been one of those guys, right,

1007
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like somebody paid for him to get released, and they

1008
00:55:56.960 --> 00:55:59.480
<v Speaker 2>never found out who he was out, but.

1009
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.920
<v Speaker 1>It was like a year and a half two years later.

1010
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they didn't have a fun time.

1011
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, it took a while for them to get even

1012
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:09.960
<v Speaker 2>some some pretty high level mob guys out of prison

1013
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.880
<v Speaker 2>when Castro started tossing people in prison. Uh, and some

1014
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 2>of those high level mob eys I.

1015
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Got out a way quicker, way quicker than the Bay

1016
00:56:18.320 --> 00:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>of Pigs characters.

1017
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the big names. But some of the guys whose

1018
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 2>names you know aren't at the top of the list

1019
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't get out that quick. Some of them had to

1020
00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:28.440
<v Speaker 2>sit there for a while. I mean I know that

1021
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 2>for a fact. There was you know, some guys from

1022
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Chicago that's out there. I mean, you know, not the

1023
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.400
<v Speaker 2>big names. Those guys got out right away, you know,

1024
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.320
<v Speaker 2>they got paid. Jack Ruby went down there to secure

1025
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.519
<v Speaker 2>what uh traffic Anti right, wasn't it traffic Anti he

1026
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.880
<v Speaker 2>got released? Or am I mixing that?

1027
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, Trump, No, you're right traffic Khanie. And I

1028
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:56.639
<v Speaker 1>got a question for that crazy Raoul Cash troule. Why

1029
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>did he tell when traffic Khannie got loose, Rabel was

1030
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 1>letting them out, and he told them, don't let the

1031
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 1>bastards get you down. What the hell does that mean?

1032
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 1>What are they buddies? What are they talking about? He

1033
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 1>just got them, putting them in.

1034
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Jail because he knew he was going back to America,

1035
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was just like, look, you know, sorry about

1036
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.039
<v Speaker 2>having to do what we had to do to you,

1037
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:26.639
<v Speaker 2>but you know, screw America basically. And these guys didn't

1038
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 2>realize that mob guys are not anti American. I don't

1039
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.239
<v Speaker 2>know why people think they are, but they're not. They

1040
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:39.400
<v Speaker 2>never were. They're usually actually pretty patriotic in a weird way.

1041
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Your mob guys, you know, they don't love the irs

1042
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:48.639
<v Speaker 2>or the prison system, but pro American for the most part.

1043
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, they wouldn't have had to pay any of

1044
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.559
<v Speaker 2>those guys to help out with the docs in World

1045
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:55.519
<v Speaker 2>War Two if they had asked the right person at

1046
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the right time. They wouldn't had to even pay a favor.

1047
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<v Speaker 2>They could have gotten that for free out of the mob. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>they would have been happy, you know. And quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>in some years from now, you're gonna find out that

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<v Speaker 2>even during the quote War on Terror, that some Italian

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<v Speaker 2>businessmen were more than helpful with you know, hey, screwed

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<v Speaker 2>those people, you know. You know, I might be a criminal,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm an American. Screwed them, you know, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to be helpful to the Department of Homeland Security.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's not public knowledge now, but it will be,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you. I mean much like you guys learned

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<v Speaker 2>about Lucky Luciano much later and the stuff that he did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, he tried to secure his release, but

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<v Speaker 2>he only wanted to be sent, you know, to back

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<v Speaker 2>to Sicily and freed, you know, as opposed to sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in a prison here. But he was no problem helping

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<v Speaker 2>out with the ports, and you want to help with

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<v Speaker 2>the invasion of Sicily had no problem. But they probably

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<v Speaker 2>could have gotten that for free even if Lucky wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>in jail, because Italians are more than happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned about that and oh, I'm sorry, go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>be Pete.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, go ahead. BP wasn't saying we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to be Pete after. What were you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>I think BP was going to say something by.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm sitting here.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still googling, trying to figure out this guy named car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I figured you were doing. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was letting you, letting you at.

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<v Speaker 4>It, but I can't find anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't think of it. My brain is not

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<v Speaker 2>giving it to me. I'm not trying to look it

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<v Speaker 2>up right now because it's impossible. But but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look on BP, if you look on Mary Ferrell,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a thing, a chapter called sudo Suit in them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gotta be in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking about the kryptonyms. Uh, normal, the Kryptonis.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's an actual another chapter. No, yeah, no, this

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<v Speaker 1>one's in particular pseudonyms. Okay, so it would be listed

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<v Speaker 1>on that list, not crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough? All right, Well, anyways, with all that in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see how deep are we on time? Here? Jeez,

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01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 2>do you know we've been on almost an hour? Be

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<v Speaker 2>Pete actually over there?

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<v Speaker 4>ALIAS, All right, I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you what you go ahead and look through the

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<v Speaker 2>pseudonyms and aliases, and you guys out there pick a

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01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:41.039
<v Speaker 2>new pseudonym or alias if you like. Definitely remember to

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01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:44.239
<v Speaker 2>put out your bonfires before they grow out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>And all that good stuff woods the owl or not,

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01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:50.519
<v Speaker 2>whether it's four twenty or not, I mean, please stop

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01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.320
<v Speaker 2>burning down Jersey and still I say we may have

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<v Speaker 2>encountered finally once and for all.

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<v Speaker 14>In Denial Secret Wars with air Strikes and Tanks by Larryhncock.

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<v Speaker 14>Secret wars became a staple of US covert operations and

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<v Speaker 14>are still happening today. Larryhancock's book In Denial rips the

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<v Speaker 14>cover off many of them, using new files.

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<v Speaker 15>It exposes things about the Bay of Pigs that no

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<v Speaker 15>one has ever written about before. It shows why it

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<v Speaker 15>really failed and why the United States did not.

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<v Speaker 2>Earn from it.

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<v Speaker 15>It also shows why other countries today are doing secret

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<v Speaker 15>operations with more success. This is the book that puts

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<v Speaker 15>what some want to deny into the light. In Denial,

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<v Speaker 15>Secret Wars with air Strikes and Tanks Larryhancock. For more information,

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<v Speaker 15>go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com. Pick up your

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<v Speaker 15>copy of In Denial at Amazon dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>In digital or physical.

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<v Speaker 18>Under rule of brass, red bones, beats that smash fire

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<v Speaker 18>flows through everything, little sum at least the pain politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the best we can do, folks. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what we have to offer. It's what our system produces.

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<v Speaker 2>Garbage in garbage job. Uncle.

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<v Speaker 12>Do you remember that time when Benjamin Fulford said that

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<v Speaker 12>an Asian secret society was going to dispatch ninjas to

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<v Speaker 12>take down the illuminati.

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<v Speaker 19>Oh, that's interesting, yeah in the clatoon.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah did that ever work out too good?

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<v Speaker 17>No?

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<v Speaker 12>It didn't, did it? But here on o'celly dot com

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<v Speaker 12>Radio network things work out a bit better, don't they

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<v Speaker 12>much better?

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<v Speaker 19>Much is clear and understanding about the programs. The programs

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<v Speaker 19>much clearer, getting live people into it. They really have

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<v Speaker 19>a good conversation going much better, much better scene.

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<v Speaker 12>I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninjas and listen

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<v Speaker 12>to the ocelly dot com Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 19>I agree, it's straight to the point, straight talk, and

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<v Speaker 19>I like that idea.

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<v Speaker 16>Call revelation through conversation.

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<v Speaker 13>Person with Jesus Orange Jesus.

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<v Speaker 20>I warn't I do believe that fails to relieve every

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<v Speaker 20>five every lie? Why the truth must die? That's with

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<v Speaker 20>Jesus is Jesus saying.

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<v Speaker 13>Which like meaning?

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<v Speaker 9>This is James Corbyn at Corp Report dot com and

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<v Speaker 9>you're listening to the olly affect at o'celly dot com.

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<v Speaker 17>Relation through con say.

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<v Speaker 13>Well fast, really show fact?

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<v Speaker 16>Do you like history? Real history that you were never

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<v Speaker 16>taught in schools? Why the Vietnam War, Nuclear Bombs and

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<v Speaker 16>Nation Building in Southeast Asia by author Mike Swanson, with

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<v Speaker 16>new documentation never seen before that'll open your eyes to

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<v Speaker 16>events that led up to this. Why the Vietnam War,

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<v Speaker 16>Nuclear Bombs and Nation Building in Southeast Asia nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 16>five through nineteen sixty one. Get your copy today at

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<v Speaker 2>Going to Chuck o'chelly.

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<v Speaker 10>Shelley, No one's Chanco Shelley.

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<v Speaker 2>You are about doing marking upon the regular, say the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes of the world out upon you. Don't hope to

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<v Speaker 2>them prayers. I'll liberty loving people everywhere, march with you

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<v Speaker 2>in company with our brave ally and brothers in arms

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<v Speaker 2>on other front. Your task will not be an easy

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<v Speaker 2>one Your enemy.

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<v Speaker 3>Is well trained, well equipped, and battle heart.

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<v Speaker 2>He will fight s.

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<v Speaker 4>Man demand.

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<v Speaker 1>The tight has turned. The free men of the world

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<v Speaker 1>are muching together.

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<v Speaker 2>To finger it.

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<v Speaker 5>Good luck and let us all be seeking the blessing

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<v Speaker 5>of Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaken.

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<v Speaker 16>Oh Chili dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Read from the Big CHUCKO.

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly, And he's been known so many years applying the

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<v Speaker 3>UFK researchers specializing aast A Tellivitagency involvement in multiple assassinations, propaganda,

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<v Speaker 3>and other global criminal operations in the twentieth and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>first centuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Your listeners are extreme detate, have.

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<v Speaker 1>You yeah, and now less agorated.

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<v Speaker 14>And in mead O Shelly.

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<v Speaker 2>And my co host b Pete is with me as

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<v Speaker 2>well on a Friday night and you could be two

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<v Speaker 2>as we speak live just bab about sixteen minutes after

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<v Speaker 2>the hour of nine o'clock here on the East Coast

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<v Speaker 2>in what we used to call America. So it is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, it was what it was, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can join us three one nine five two seven five

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<v Speaker 2>zero one six three one nine five two seven five

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<v Speaker 2>zero one six And before we get back to Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>James again and try to find out who this guy

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<v Speaker 2>car was us. How about this? Looks like we got

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<v Speaker 2>Danny on the line. So Danny, how you doing what's

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<v Speaker 2>on your mind this week? Brother?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm doing just fine. We here watching my granddaughter who

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<v Speaker 10>fell asleep. But I'm I want to spit on my mind.

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<v Speaker 10>You had Larry Hancock last night and you were discussing

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<v Speaker 10>the RFK assassination. And matter of fact, I'm looking out

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<v Speaker 10>the window at the very spot when I first heard

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<v Speaker 10>it lasting on one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of my neighbors TVs that he was assassinated.

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<v Speaker 10>But what I found was really interesting in your discussion Larry,

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<v Speaker 10>and you discussed possible was there any investigation foreign influence

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<v Speaker 10>of the RFK assassination, and you brought up the Iranian

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<v Speaker 10>Savakh and there in southern California there's a large Persian

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<v Speaker 10>population has been there for a long time. Were you

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<v Speaker 10>aware of that or Larry?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 10>And then I was just recently, I don't have it

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<v Speaker 10>in front of me. I was reading Lawrence Walh's book

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<v Speaker 10>cover Up was that the Irain Contra, and it was

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<v Speaker 10>talking about Bud McFarlane. His first connection to intelligence in

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<v Speaker 10>Iran was a Exabak number, and he also had it

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<v Speaker 10>was almost like a double agent with Israelian intelligence.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have its name, but are you so?

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<v Speaker 10>I just found it really interesting. Can you stand on that?

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<v Speaker 10>Do you know any more about any investigation? Because when

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<v Speaker 10>I've looked at the RFK, I never heard of that,

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<v Speaker 10>and it just kind of really captured my imagination.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are several people in fact, even connected to

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian diplomat that were present at the ambassador number one,

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<v Speaker 2>uh number two. For listeners that don't know, the Savakh

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<v Speaker 2>is the secret police basically in Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They're kind of a multifaceted intelligence agency and they were

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<v Speaker 2>extremely brutal. They were trained and implemented by our CIA effectively,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, they were the uh, you know, the the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate secret police for the Shaw of Iran. And when

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about the Shaw of Iran or the more

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<v Speaker 2>modern known Shaw of Iran, the one that you know

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<v Speaker 2>came here to die in the US in the late

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<v Speaker 2>seventies and all that. That guy was Western educated and

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<v Speaker 2>essentially installed by United States intelligence services after the overthrow

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<v Speaker 2>of Mohammed Mozdek, who was you know, uh, supposedly a

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<v Speaker 2>secular leader and was duly elected by the people. So

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<v Speaker 2>before the uh you know, the Mullahs and all that

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<v Speaker 2>took over, before the Sharia law type Islamic council, because

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<v Speaker 2>they have a they have a what what they call

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<v Speaker 2>a oh my goodness, what do we describe that as they.

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<v Speaker 10>Have like a parliament.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they have a constitution, right, and the constitution you know,

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<v Speaker 2>gives them rights and has a structure to it and

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. But every part of their constitution might

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<v Speaker 2>as well effectively read no matter what we do here

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<v Speaker 2>as a country or as a government, this Islamic Council

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<v Speaker 2>has to approve of everything. And that was the implementation

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<v Speaker 2>that was brought into being because of the backlash the

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<v Speaker 2>removal the taking out of the Shah of Iran, which

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<v Speaker 2>initially installed by our CIA. So you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>whole backstory to that. And meanwhile, you know, look, Sir

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<v Speaker 2>Hahn is Palestinian, and you know, there's a whole theory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of difficult to get into what was his

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<v Speaker 2>motive if he was claiming not to remember anything for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. That was Larry's point about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of stuff to get into here regarding international

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01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:30.720
<v Speaker 2>influence did somebody position him. And I'm not even going

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01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:33.680
<v Speaker 2>with the whole menture in candidate thing. You know, I'm

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01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:38.199
<v Speaker 2>not Lisa pas all right. So the thing is, I

1259
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:40.159
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to take all that. I'm not saying

1260
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:44.119
<v Speaker 2>it's completely illegitimate. But if we look at it from

1261
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:48.359
<v Speaker 2>any angle, there's a lot of strange occurrences here, and

1262
01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:52.680
<v Speaker 2>there are various players that one could point to, and

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01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:56.399
<v Speaker 2>strangely enough, some of it leads to Iranian secret police.

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01:12:57.720 --> 01:13:01.399
<v Speaker 2>And at that time, in sixty eight, they still in charge,

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01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:04.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, they would disappear people and you know,

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01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:08.520
<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about renditioning people and black sites

1267
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:10.960
<v Speaker 2>and all that. Believe me, they had a down pat

1268
01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:15.000
<v Speaker 2>in Iran. And the Savak was brutal and vicious to

1269
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:20.359
<v Speaker 2>any you know, political opposition, any outspoken opposition to the Shaw.

1270
01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:23.920
<v Speaker 2>And like I stated that the Shaw of Iran that

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01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:27.640
<v Speaker 2>we talk about is the son of the former Shaw

1272
01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:30.119
<v Speaker 2>of Iran. And again in Arabic shaw is a king.

1273
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:38.479
<v Speaker 2>So the former Iranian king that was deposed previously returns

1274
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 2>in the form of his son. And again, you know,

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01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:44.760
<v Speaker 2>the brutal secret police was the Savak. So I think

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01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:47.279
<v Speaker 2>that background is necessary if people don't know about it,

1277
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:53.000
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, there's intrigue there and a lot of leads

1278
01:13:53.079 --> 01:13:56.039
<v Speaker 2>not followed up on. But there are some curiously interesting

1279
01:13:56.079 --> 01:13:59.520
<v Speaker 2>people present at the Ambassador Hotel. And I'm not talking

1280
01:13:59.560 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 2>about the the crazy thing where you know, there was

1281
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:04.399
<v Speaker 2>a film a few years ago and they tried to

1282
01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:07.359
<v Speaker 2>place like, you know, eight CIA agents on the films

1283
01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:10.319
<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff, and turns out that work wasn't

1284
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:15.159
<v Speaker 2>exactly solid. You know, there's a lot to it. But

1285
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that there wasn't CIA people there present.

1286
01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 2>There wasn't you know, some interest in the CIA following

1287
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:24.319
<v Speaker 2>around some of the people who were there probably there

1288
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 2>including people that, like I said, were connected to you know,

1289
01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:33.239
<v Speaker 2>various diplomatic foreign diplomatic posts and stuff. And just like

1290
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.960
<v Speaker 2>we know from our own diplomatic posts across the world,

1291
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, more than half of them. If you read

1292
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:42.039
<v Speaker 2>some of the recent documentation in the JFK case, you know,

1293
01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:45.720
<v Speaker 2>our internal government documents show well we know that more

1294
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:49.880
<v Speaker 2>than half of our diplomatic attaches across the world they're

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01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:56.119
<v Speaker 2>pretty much CIA plants, you know, So there's no reason

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01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:59.760
<v Speaker 2>to assume that a other countries wouldn't do that as well.

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01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:04.920
<v Speaker 2>And b we're talking about, you know, some fairly vicious,

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01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:09.439
<v Speaker 2>fairly extreme people that maybe didn't want a guy like

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01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Bobby Kennedy to get anywhere near the presidency because god

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01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:15.920
<v Speaker 2>knows what would have happened to him. Because the Kennedy's

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01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:18.239
<v Speaker 2>on the Middle East is an interesting topic now, you know,

1302
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.000
<v Speaker 2>some people have tried to twist that into you know,

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01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the Masad killed him because you know, everything leads back

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01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to the Jews. All roads lead to the Jews, you

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01:15:28.039 --> 01:15:30.960
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, and that's what they do. I'm

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01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.960
<v Speaker 2>not saying there's nothing to that, but he can't. You

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01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:37.279
<v Speaker 2>need evidence to tie the Masade to this and it's

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01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:39.600
<v Speaker 2>not there. Oh, they didn't want him to get the bomb.

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01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:43.039
<v Speaker 2>They already had the bomb. Shut up, you know. Well, no,

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01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:44.479
<v Speaker 2>they didn't want him to be able to do this

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01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:47.039
<v Speaker 2>and that, and they were already doing that. The only

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01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:52.279
<v Speaker 2>thing Bobby Kennedy wanted a PAK registered as a hostile

1313
01:15:52.359 --> 01:15:57.880
<v Speaker 2>foreign group. You know, maybe they weren't the most pro

1314
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Israeli cabinet saw the Kennedys, all right, but they also

1315
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 2>weren't you know, vehemently against them and some sort of enemy. Oh,

1316
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:08.640
<v Speaker 2>they had this problem with Ben Gurin who you know.

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01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:12.319
<v Speaker 2>All that stuff is just people who want to find

1318
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:15.960
<v Speaker 2>a way to attach their paranoia about the Jews run

1319
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:20.560
<v Speaker 2>the world. Want to hang the Kennedy assassination on them too,

1320
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:23.920
<v Speaker 2>so you know. And I'm not somebody who's a fan

1321
01:16:24.039 --> 01:16:26.520
<v Speaker 2>of the Nation State of Israel, mind you. I think

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01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:28.119
<v Speaker 2>they need to be called out more. And I think

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01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:32.479
<v Speaker 2>it's been brutality they've committed to many and etcetera, etcetera.

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01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:35.359
<v Speaker 2>And I do not like the fact that the United

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01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 2>States stands with them so much. But even with that said,

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01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't I you know, you need evidence to hang

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01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:47.439
<v Speaker 2>a crime on even an intelligence agency, so they don't

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01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:49.319
<v Speaker 2>have it. When it comes to the whole the massade

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01:16:49.399 --> 01:16:52.039
<v Speaker 2>killed him. It was the Jewish mafia and the massad

1330
01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:57.159
<v Speaker 2>see Jack Rubinstein. Uh, you know, no, it doesn't work.

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01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:02.439
<v Speaker 2>It's stupid. But anyway, I'm sorry, I I I felt

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01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 2>like I needed to add that. But what else are

1333
01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you thinking? You're reading the rf case, have you been

1334
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:09.760
<v Speaker 2>reading any of the RFK stuff or do you know

1335
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:11.279
<v Speaker 2>about that or know about report?

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01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.640
<v Speaker 10>The only thing I you know, go from memory as

1337
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:18.439
<v Speaker 10>a child that the only the only book that I

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01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:22.680
<v Speaker 10>really read on r K was was Lisa P's book,

1339
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 10>and I thought she made a lot of good points.

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01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:32.720
<v Speaker 10>The whole man sharing Kennedy that never really that I

1341
01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:35.880
<v Speaker 10>don't know if I could buy that, if that made

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01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:39.560
<v Speaker 10>any sense. I just found that when you when when

1343
01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.159
<v Speaker 10>you and Larry brought up the subject of the Savah

1344
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:45.399
<v Speaker 10>and that kind of made a lot of sense, not

1345
01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.800
<v Speaker 10>that they were guilty, that they would have maybe should

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01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:52.800
<v Speaker 10>have been investigated, because you know, here in California at

1347
01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:55.039
<v Speaker 10>that time, there was a lot of a lot of

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01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.720
<v Speaker 10>Iranian students were, you know, here being educated in the

1349
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.079
<v Speaker 10>university system here right in what was going on. There

1350
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:06.479
<v Speaker 10>was the protests movement going on a lot of the

1351
01:18:06.600 --> 01:18:11.880
<v Speaker 10>California schools here, So definitely there would be intelligence, you know,

1352
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.720
<v Speaker 10>thinking are these students here getting an educator, are they

1353
01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:20.359
<v Speaker 10>getting ideas you know, with you know, maybe you know,

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01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:22.640
<v Speaker 10>trying to change the government of the shop. You know,

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01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:25.840
<v Speaker 10>I just thought it was just I just never thought.

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01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Of that in nineteen Yeah, in nineteen sixty eight, co

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01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Intel pro was too busy destroying the Black Panthers and

1358
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:38.039
<v Speaker 2>going after all the student unions. Whether they were violent

1359
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:41.039
<v Speaker 2>or not, they didn't care, you know, And so they

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01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:44.720
<v Speaker 2>were busy with that kind of stuff, and so, you know,

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01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they were as focused on Iran at

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01:18:47.319 --> 01:18:50.119
<v Speaker 2>that time, and I don't think they bothered with it.

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01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:50.319
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:52.119
<v Speaker 2>It was sort of like when jay A Groover would

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01:18:52.199 --> 01:18:53.920
<v Speaker 2>it would get asked, well, what about the mafia, and

1366
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:55.199
<v Speaker 2>you go, well, there's no mafia.

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01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:56.159
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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01:18:56.760 --> 01:18:58.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like, if you want to ignore it, you can,

1369
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess, but I wouldn't have. And if you want

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01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:06.399
<v Speaker 2>to read something for free, okay, check out those links

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01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:07.960
<v Speaker 2>that I gave you. If you want to read a

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01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:12.840
<v Speaker 2>book on the RFK assassination for free, Larry Hancock has

1373
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a whole thing on there that they didn't make into

1374
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:17.880
<v Speaker 2>a book quite but it might as well be. Yeah,

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01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:20.760
<v Speaker 2>there's links in the show notes to that show you

1376
01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:26.119
<v Speaker 2>were listening to on the Mary Farrell website. You know what,

1377
01:19:26.199 --> 01:19:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll try and get it for the chat room real

1378
01:19:27.920 --> 01:19:30.800
<v Speaker 2>fast and I'll put it in there. But it's on

1379
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:33.560
<v Speaker 2>the show notes for the show and he wrote that

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01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:37.359
<v Speaker 2>years ago. It's like six sections, but it's basically like

1381
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:41.399
<v Speaker 2>a book online for free at Mary farrell website. If

1382
01:19:41.439 --> 01:19:43.439
<v Speaker 2>you want to, you know, get a good historical read.

1383
01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:46.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what else I would suggest and some

1384
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>people are going to think I'm crazy when I say this,

1385
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:51.399
<v Speaker 2>But if you can get a hold of a copy

1386
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:54.560
<v Speaker 2>of the original book that was written by the guy

1387
01:19:54.640 --> 01:19:58.600
<v Speaker 2>who headed up the actual investigation, which took place in California,

1388
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.439
<v Speaker 2>they called it Special Unit, Senator. You heard Larry refer

1389
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:07.920
<v Speaker 2>to the s US directors. Yeah, yeah, Well that was

1390
01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Special Unit, Senator. That was what they called the police

1391
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:18.800
<v Speaker 2>unit that was brought together to investigate the RFK assassination.

1392
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Because it was a crime committee in California. It was

1393
01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:26.680
<v Speaker 2>a local situation, and so that's why the majority of

1394
01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:29.319
<v Speaker 2>evidence that would have been gathered here is actually in

1395
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:32.119
<v Speaker 2>your archives in Sacramento. I don't know if they make

1396
01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:35.279
<v Speaker 2>it available online. Last I looked, they didn't make a

1397
01:20:35.319 --> 01:20:39.560
<v Speaker 2>lot available, but it might have changed. And that's where

1398
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:42.439
<v Speaker 2>you could find information, is that the archives and Sacramento.

1399
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.640
<v Speaker 2>But Special Unit, Senator, if you can get a hold

1400
01:20:45.640 --> 01:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of that original book it was written by the guy

1401
01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:51.960
<v Speaker 2>who headed up that investigation, I would suggest that. And

1402
01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I would suggest that a lot of documentaries, including stuff

1403
01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the older stuff that was done by a guy named

1404
01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Philip Milanson was pretty interesting. And there is something out

1405
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:10.279
<v Speaker 2>there called evidence of revision. Okay, which is a compilation

1406
01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:14.319
<v Speaker 2>of a whole bunch of old documentaries and archival footage

1407
01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and all this kind of stuff. And it's actually grown

1408
01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:21.159
<v Speaker 2>into an eight hour long film series where they do

1409
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:26.600
<v Speaker 2>a section on the JFK assassination, RFK assassination, MK ultrast

1410
01:21:26.680 --> 01:21:31.399
<v Speaker 2>slash Jonestown, and they do the final section is now

1411
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.920
<v Speaker 2>on mlk's assassination. And it's like an eight hour long

1412
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:39.640
<v Speaker 2>thing where they've culled together a lot of clips from

1413
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:45.199
<v Speaker 2>like hundreds of different documentaries and like I said, archival sources,

1414
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:48.720
<v Speaker 2>news reports, all kinds of stuff, and it's really an

1415
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:53.760
<v Speaker 2>interesting rush of information. Is it all one hundred percent accurate? No,

1416
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:57.079
<v Speaker 2>but it gives you the lay of the land regarding

1417
01:21:57.159 --> 01:22:01.479
<v Speaker 2>about thirty years worth of investigation in to RFK. And

1418
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.840
<v Speaker 2>also the probably available online is a documentary called The

1419
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Second Gun. The guy's name who did it originally, I

1420
01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:11.640
<v Speaker 2>can't remember his name off the top of my head,

1421
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:17.319
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's called The Second Gun and jeez, it

1422
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.720
<v Speaker 2>was done by a guy named Ted something or other.

1423
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:24.039
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I know it's available for free on YouTube.

1424
01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:28.239
<v Speaker 2>But I'll get you the link to that Hancock piece

1425
01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:30.439
<v Speaker 2>that I'm telling you about. It's in six sections on

1426
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the Mary Farrell website. Ok, maybe I'll try and find

1427
01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:38.800
<v Speaker 2>that second gun documentary link on YouTube while I'm at

1428
01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:41.359
<v Speaker 2>at But Pete, Pete, have you ever gone into the

1429
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:45.359
<v Speaker 2>RFK assassination? Would you have a suggestion, you know, for

1430
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Dan here.

1431
01:22:48.920 --> 01:22:53.079
<v Speaker 5>No, I've really not delved into the RFK and much

1432
01:22:54.319 --> 01:22:57.479
<v Speaker 5>other than the discrepancies between shots fired, where they hid

1433
01:22:57.640 --> 01:22:58.359
<v Speaker 5>what they found.

1434
01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:00.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm really haven't done into it.

1435
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, you know, this document dump features Actually people

1436
01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:07.880
<v Speaker 2>are like, oh my god, this has never been available,

1437
01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:12.479
<v Speaker 2>but it was. It just wasn't highly circulated. The autopsy

1438
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>information is in there, and even photographs, by the way,

1439
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:19.079
<v Speaker 2>along with a lot of the exhibits that were gathered

1440
01:23:19.399 --> 01:23:22.560
<v Speaker 2>against Sir hann you know, his passport, his notebooks, his

1441
01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>address books, all that kind of stuff is now actually

1442
01:23:26.439 --> 01:23:31.039
<v Speaker 2>in a pretty pretty clearly, nicely reproduced digital form there

1443
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:35.960
<v Speaker 2>in that file collection. So yeah, Larry's thing is called

1444
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Incomplete Justice, by the way, just so you know. But

1445
01:23:39.880 --> 01:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get some of

1446
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:47.000
<v Speaker 2>these let's see Larry Hancock. Yeah, I'm gonna get like

1447
01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:50.399
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of the show notes from last night and

1448
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>drop them into the yeah, into the chat room here,

1449
01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and even the link to Jefferson Morley talking to Larry

1450
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>about it, which was a much less detailed discussion than

1451
01:24:05.079 --> 01:24:09.399
<v Speaker 2>what I did with Larry, you know, for some reason,

1452
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, and Jeff is out there trying to say that,

1453
01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:15.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, he doesn't think the autopsy photos should be

1454
01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>shown in public. I don't understand that when it comes

1455
01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>to the JFK case at this point. I don't know

1456
01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:25.239
<v Speaker 2>why he's saying that at all. But there's even a

1457
01:24:25.279 --> 01:24:29.359
<v Speaker 2>couple of interesting academic papers that were produced regarding different

1458
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:31.439
<v Speaker 2>elements of the case, by the way, and stuff having

1459
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:34.560
<v Speaker 2>to do with the Savakh in the show notes from

1460
01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:36.520
<v Speaker 2>last night. But again, I'll put it in the chatroom

1461
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:39.199
<v Speaker 2>at ochelli dot com. And you can usually see stuff

1462
01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:41.119
<v Speaker 2>in my chat room when you roll it back if

1463
01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:44.279
<v Speaker 2>you like and you're listening later, or you can see it,

1464
01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:50.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, on the show notes anytime, guys. So anyway, Oh,

1465
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:53.079
<v Speaker 2>in the chat room, somebody's saying, now it's just reloaded

1466
01:24:53.159 --> 01:24:55.760
<v Speaker 2>on me. But somebody's saying that the second clip of

1467
01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Nature Boy sounds a bit more like Nature Boy, and

1468
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:03.039
<v Speaker 2>apparently b Pete. They also say, you look a little

1469
01:25:03.119 --> 01:25:07.479
<v Speaker 2>like Hunter S. Thompson in their mind's eye. I don't

1470
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.880
<v Speaker 2>know if that's a compliment or not. Uh oh well,

1471
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:16.039
<v Speaker 2>but in their in their mind's eye, you look like

1472
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:22.439
<v Speaker 2>Hunter s. Thompson got more hair than okay, uh and

1473
01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:24.880
<v Speaker 2>either one of you has more hair than either Nature

1474
01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Boy or is doppelganger. So it is what it is.

1475
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:30.079
<v Speaker 2>But there you go. There's a special unit, Senator. All

1476
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.239
<v Speaker 2>that stuff that I was talking about on the show

1477
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>last night. And like I say, I'll try and find

1478
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:37.359
<v Speaker 2>that that YouTube clip too, because I know I've I've

1479
01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:42.840
<v Speaker 2>had it in my playlist somewhere. But anyway, but you

1480
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:44.399
<v Speaker 2>never got into the RFK stuff.

1481
01:25:44.479 --> 01:25:47.640
<v Speaker 4>Huh No, I haven't jumped into it much.

1482
01:25:47.680 --> 01:25:50.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean other than some interviews, you know, when the

1483
01:25:51.079 --> 01:25:54.920
<v Speaker 5>interviews that Rosie Career gave and about what happened. I've

1484
01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.640
<v Speaker 5>just I've not been able to match up shots with

1485
01:25:58.239 --> 01:25:59.800
<v Speaker 5>where they say they pulled bullets.

1486
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Fun. So yeah, one was you know, wide open to me, Well.

1487
01:26:03.800 --> 01:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>There's that, and it was Ted Sharrak. That's the guy's name.

1488
01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:12.399
<v Speaker 2>I just thought of it, Ted Sharrak. Okay, that's the

1489
01:26:12.439 --> 01:26:15.920
<v Speaker 2>guy who created the documentary The Second Gun, which, by

1490
01:26:15.920 --> 01:26:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the way, even today, people that make documentaries are still

1491
01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:26.199
<v Speaker 2>pulling archival footage from that original documentary, which I think

1492
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:29.800
<v Speaker 2>he put out in like seventy two or seventy four,

1493
01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>somewhere in there in the early seventies initially, and it

1494
01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:39.119
<v Speaker 2>became part of the VHS releases that they did on

1495
01:26:39.479 --> 01:26:42.399
<v Speaker 2>There was one company in the in the mid to

1496
01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>late eighties that did a whole bunch of these home

1497
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:48.279
<v Speaker 2>video releases. I'm trying to think of the name of

1498
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the damn company, but MPI that's what it is, MPI

1499
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Home Video, and they put out JFK documentaries, even old ones,

1500
01:26:57.079 --> 01:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>new ones, everything. At a certain point, they even released

1501
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>John Barber's documentary on VHS briefly in The Lady in

1502
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:09.520
<v Speaker 2>like eighty eight around the twenty fifth anniversary. They might

1503
01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:13.880
<v Speaker 2>release Barber's documentary later, I forget, but either way, MPI

1504
01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Home Video is the company that did it for a

1505
01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:18.880
<v Speaker 2>little bit, and I'm certain they're out of business now

1506
01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:21.560
<v Speaker 2>because I've known people that have tried to make contact

1507
01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.840
<v Speaker 2>with him for original, the original film that they made

1508
01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the tapes off of of these different documentaries because they

1509
01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.479
<v Speaker 2>wanted to restore them digitally. Yeah good.

1510
01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:34.039
<v Speaker 5>I started watching one today and we'll go back and

1511
01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.239
<v Speaker 5>watch the rest of it when we get off the air.

1512
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:40.079
<v Speaker 4>This one was done, and I was going to send

1513
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:41.640
<v Speaker 4>you a link to it to see if you had

1514
01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:48.279
<v Speaker 4>watched it yet. Sure, American River Media Group LLC is

1515
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:50.760
<v Speaker 4>apparently the guys back in this thing, but it was

1516
01:27:52.600 --> 01:27:53.520
<v Speaker 4>the guy's name.

1517
01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Documentaries. Just for the record here, I mean, I used

1518
01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to have a massive collection of them. I had about

1519
01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:10.600
<v Speaker 2>three hundred documentaries on VHS alone before the ex wife

1520
01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:13.199
<v Speaker 2>destroyed everything. I had sets of three hundred of all

1521
01:28:13.319 --> 01:28:13.880
<v Speaker 2>kinds of stuff.

1522
01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:16.680
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, this is one Brent Holland did.

1523
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't Okay, I didn't watch Brent Hollins, but

1524
01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Brent had put out an hour long one that he

1525
01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>sent to Lancer last year, and he did another one

1526
01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the year that you and I went. I don't think

1527
01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>we saw it when we were there. I think we

1528
01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:34.279
<v Speaker 2>were at the table probably when they ran it on

1529
01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>the screen.

1530
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:41.039
<v Speaker 5>Well, this is run under the site Best Documentaries, Okay,

1531
01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:42.279
<v Speaker 5>and I started watching it.

1532
01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:44.439
<v Speaker 4>One of the first people that they bring up in

1533
01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:46.119
<v Speaker 4>the thing is Beverly Oliver.

1534
01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:48.159
<v Speaker 5>So I thought, you know, I'm really not going to

1535
01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:51.600
<v Speaker 5>get much out of this if that's his Pipe of Witness.

1536
01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot of stuff look sadly, there was a

1537
01:28:55.279 --> 01:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of like good documentaries that included a lot of

1538
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:07.159
<v Speaker 2>bad or poor, poorly sourced people in the late eighties

1539
01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>and early nineties. So you could get a really good

1540
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:12.039
<v Speaker 2>documentary and then the next thing you would see is

1541
01:29:12.079 --> 01:29:15.479
<v Speaker 2>Beverly Oliver pop up, you know what I mean, or

1542
01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.079
<v Speaker 2>even worse, the guy who swore he was there at

1543
01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:20.479
<v Speaker 2>a military Gordon Arnold, that guy.

1544
01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:24.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, he was familiar with friend Holland stuff.

1545
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:26.520
<v Speaker 5>But you know, like I said, ten minutes into this

1546
01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.760
<v Speaker 5>and I was already seeing Beverly Oliver, and I'm sitting

1547
01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:32.399
<v Speaker 5>here going on, i'm't waste my time on the rest

1548
01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:32.640
<v Speaker 5>of it.

1549
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, the funny thing is Brent Holland is an interesting

1550
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:39.159
<v Speaker 2>guy because he's done some cool stuff, but he also

1551
01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>believes some bad stuff. He believes Beverly Oliver. But he

1552
01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:50.159
<v Speaker 2>also interviewed Ted Sorenson just before he died, right, He

1553
01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>did a decent book. He presented at Lancer in person

1554
01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times. You know, he's from Canada, and

1555
01:29:57.039 --> 01:29:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I guarantee over the years, at some point you probably

1556
01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>heard radio a radio show that was turned into a

1557
01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:06.479
<v Speaker 2>podcast and the name of the show was night Fright Radio.

1558
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>You ever heard that?

1559
01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:12.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, somebody made a mention to that in one of

1560
01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:15.560
<v Speaker 5>the comments, Brent Holland of night Fight Channel.

1561
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you probably have heard it, because there was

1562
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>a certain point at which, you know, there wasn't that

1563
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:23.359
<v Speaker 2>much of this stuff circulating around and the internet doesn't

1564
01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:26.479
<v Speaker 2>look like it did today, And so sometime around I

1565
01:30:26.520 --> 01:30:29.439
<v Speaker 2>don't know, two thousand and five he might have done

1566
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:32.159
<v Speaker 2>those shows. He did him on a Canadian radio station

1567
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:36.439
<v Speaker 2>and they sort of circulated among JFK researchers, and I

1568
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:39.399
<v Speaker 2>think that's how he became popular. But he actually had,

1569
01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:44.479
<v Speaker 2>up until recently, a regular TV show on a Canada station,

1570
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and he was for a while on a radio station

1571
01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:50.279
<v Speaker 2>in Canada, like regular radio, like that was his job

1572
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff. But when he did

1573
01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>this thing where he did like a four night JFK special,

1574
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>must have been two thousand and three, but maybe maybe

1575
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>it was around the fortieth anniversary. He like brought on

1576
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:08.880
<v Speaker 2>some really good people for four consecutive nights and did

1577
01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>in depth discussions and it was really good. But at

1578
01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that time he did it like on a college radio

1579
01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:18.560
<v Speaker 2>station where they just kind of let him use the place.

1580
01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I think he had either been friends with somebody going

1581
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>there or he was a former student there, and they

1582
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>just like let him use the radio station. And this

1583
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:31.159
<v Speaker 2>thing started to circulate as an MP three And to me,

1584
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:35.079
<v Speaker 2>that's how Brent Holland got known internationally was from that

1585
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>because at a certain point in the early two thousands

1586
01:31:40.079 --> 01:31:42.600
<v Speaker 2>every friend I had in the JFK community had heard

1587
01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:43.079
<v Speaker 2>that show.

1588
01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:44.359
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1589
01:31:44.439 --> 01:31:45.840
<v Speaker 2>It was like, hey, you know this guy. Now I

1590
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know him, but he did a pretty interesting show,

1591
01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:52.760
<v Speaker 2>you know. So anyway, if you can get a hold

1592
01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:55.960
<v Speaker 2>of that, I found the second gun thing there, Danny,

1593
01:31:55.960 --> 01:31:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put that in the chatroom at ochelli dot com.

1594
01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:00.439
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I'm sorry I took some of the

1595
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:03.079
<v Speaker 2>time where I couldn't. I should have let you speak, Danny,

1596
01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>but I was trying to get kind of things straight here.

1597
01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:07.680
<v Speaker 2>What else did you have in case I cut you

1598
01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:09.319
<v Speaker 2>off too early? Man, I'm sorry.

1599
01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:14.439
<v Speaker 10>You didn't cut me off. I enjoyed listening and the

1600
01:32:15.560 --> 01:32:19.239
<v Speaker 10>information I can provide. My issue is always time to

1601
01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:23.000
<v Speaker 10>go through. I work too much. But yeah, I'll check

1602
01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:26.520
<v Speaker 10>it out now because the only the only real you know,

1603
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:30.079
<v Speaker 10>when when the assassination here in California. You know, it's

1604
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:32.560
<v Speaker 10>just not one of the national news, but all over

1605
01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:35.079
<v Speaker 10>the local news. I mean I was a kid, but

1606
01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:39.119
<v Speaker 10>I mean it was in everybody's mind when it happened.

1607
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:42.079
<v Speaker 10>And I just happen to remember the very pocinct that

1608
01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:46.399
<v Speaker 10>in June day, being outside playing in my neighbor's yard

1609
01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:48.840
<v Speaker 10>and hearing it over the TV, you know, from the

1610
01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:50.720
<v Speaker 10>end of the window because it was a hot day,

1611
01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:53.479
<v Speaker 10>and hearing it. But like I said, I did the

1612
01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:56.159
<v Speaker 10>LEAs a p's book, And like I said, I didn't

1613
01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:59.520
<v Speaker 10>buying have been man sharing candidate, but I found it

1614
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:04.600
<v Speaker 10>real fa. You know, there was far more bullets than gun.

1615
01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:04.960
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1616
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.319
<v Speaker 10>Then was you know that it was in Sir Hann's

1617
01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:14.840
<v Speaker 10>firearm and then where he was position of Mattill shot.

1618
01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, two majors, right, impossible. The two major problems when

1619
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:22.439
<v Speaker 2>you start to get into details here is that no

1620
01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>one in the world would dispute that Sir Han was

1621
01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:29.239
<v Speaker 2>in front of Robert F. Kennedy, even though they were

1622
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>in a small space. It was in that pantry, there

1623
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>was stuff in the way, people in the way, but

1624
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>he was in front of him three feet six feet however,

1625
01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you want to place that gun and that person away

1626
01:33:40.840 --> 01:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>from Robert F. Kennedy's in front of him, right, So

1627
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>that's one thing. The second thing is that Robert F. Kennedy,

1628
01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:52.119
<v Speaker 2>according to Thomas Negucci, and he got fired and in

1629
01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>trouble and then had to get reinstated after revealing the

1630
01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>truth that Robert F. Kennedy was clearly least in one

1631
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>case shot in the back of the head. The stiffling

1632
01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:08.560
<v Speaker 2>was on the rear of his ear. He did the

1633
01:34:08.720 --> 01:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>proper tests, he forensically, you know, and people attacked him

1634
01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and attacked his credibility and tried to take away his profession.

1635
01:34:15.800 --> 01:34:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And Thomas Negucci has stuck by that story and always

1636
01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>has that I'm sorry, but you have stiffling from this

1637
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:26.439
<v Speaker 2>small caliber pistol, which means that it has to be

1638
01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>one to three inches I think he said, I forget,

1639
01:34:29.840 --> 01:34:35.800
<v Speaker 2>but either way, a very small amount from his ear. Yeah. Well,

1640
01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and the footage that most people play that was from nineteen,

1641
01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, from the late sixties that most people play

1642
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:44.880
<v Speaker 2>where you see a very young Thomas Negucci comes from

1643
01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:48.119
<v Speaker 2>that movie, that documentary that I just put the link

1644
01:34:48.199 --> 01:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>to the second gun where you see him talk about

1645
01:34:52.119 --> 01:34:55.439
<v Speaker 2>it and he said one to three inches like that,

1646
01:34:55.760 --> 01:35:02.399
<v Speaker 2>he says it it's on that documentary. Okay, so you'll

1647
01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>recognize some of the footage that. Like I said, even

1648
01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:11.319
<v Speaker 2>modern current documentary filmmakers keep using and recycling in that thing.

1649
01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, I used to collect documentaries. I

1650
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.880
<v Speaker 2>love documentaries. So yeah, any links people have, the new

1651
01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:20.199
<v Speaker 2>ones ones I haven't seen, I love them. I love

1652
01:35:20.279 --> 01:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>getting them on DVD. Still, I appreciate them, and I

1653
01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:26.520
<v Speaker 2>wish one day that, you know, if I got really rich,

1654
01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:32.399
<v Speaker 2>I would definitely reconstitute my documentary film collection. But I'll

1655
01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>tell you one of the prized original pieces of footage

1656
01:35:36.079 --> 01:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>that I had from the RFK assassination. I had many

1657
01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.520
<v Speaker 2>things that were rare and interesting in the JFK case,

1658
01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>but RFK I had the CBS camera tape unedited, not

1659
01:35:52.199 --> 01:35:56.640
<v Speaker 2>the aired version, but they left a camera on from

1660
01:35:56.720 --> 01:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>before Kennedy comes in the Ambassador ballroom all the way

1661
01:36:00.960 --> 01:36:05.479
<v Speaker 2>until after the chaos starts and people are running out

1662
01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:08.760
<v Speaker 2>of there, and then people are filing out in a daze.

1663
01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I had the one stationary camera that's toward the back

1664
01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:19.399
<v Speaker 2>of that ballroom, and I had the uncut camera footage.

1665
01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:24.399
<v Speaker 2>It's like four hours long, okay, And I owned that

1666
01:36:24.680 --> 01:36:28.159
<v Speaker 2>for years and I haven't seen anybody say that they

1667
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:31.239
<v Speaker 2>even possess that I got that. I used to do

1668
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:34.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of tape trading. I traded audio tapes, bootleg concerts,

1669
01:36:35.520 --> 01:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>and of course, with my historical interest, if I knew

1670
01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>people that worked in TV or worked at a radio station,

1671
01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I used to ask for things that I knew you

1672
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>could only get from there TV networks or if you

1673
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>worked for a satellite company, or people that work for

1674
01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:52.520
<v Speaker 2>film companies. And I've had I had my hands on

1675
01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>some interesting stuff. But in the RFK case, it was

1676
01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that one thing, a camera at the rear of the

1677
01:36:58.079 --> 01:37:02.760
<v Speaker 2>ballroom that captures a lot of this stuff, you know,

1678
01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>So I know that that exists. I didn't have the

1679
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:09.960
<v Speaker 2>only copy, so I know somewhere out there in you know, America,

1680
01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>there's got to be somebody else that has a full

1681
01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:18.199
<v Speaker 2>on And I had broadcast quality copy, so guaranteed somebody's

1682
01:37:18.239 --> 01:37:19.760
<v Speaker 2>got a copy of that. And I know more than

1683
01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>one researcher would like to see it, because guess what,

1684
01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you can see a lot of interesting people. In fact,

1685
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.560
<v Speaker 2>I never could prove it because I never had anybody

1686
01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:32.039
<v Speaker 2>analyze it with me, and I never did any alteration

1687
01:37:32.199 --> 01:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>on it. But there might be a point at which

1688
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:38.039
<v Speaker 2>we can see Sirhan somewhere in there. And I know

1689
01:37:38.199 --> 01:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I see Scott Yer. Yeah, I know, I see Scott

1690
01:37:41.079 --> 01:37:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and I can follow Scott Enyer into the pantry on

1691
01:37:45.239 --> 01:37:52.359
<v Speaker 2>that tape. Okay, So I'm just telling you there is

1692
01:37:52.399 --> 01:37:54.920
<v Speaker 2>a tape out there that runs for four hours uncut,

1693
01:37:55.600 --> 01:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and I bet you can see a lot of people

1694
01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:01.439
<v Speaker 2>coming in and out, So I leave it at that.

1695
01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I also can see some of the security guards. I

1696
01:38:04.439 --> 01:38:07.479
<v Speaker 2>can't identify him, but there's also an interesting character named

1697
01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Thane Eugene Caesar, who indeed maybe the guy who who

1698
01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:12.880
<v Speaker 2>fired on Robert F.

1699
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Kennedy.

1700
01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:18.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm not certain, but he could be anyway.

1701
01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:19.399
<v Speaker 3>It is what it is.

1702
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:26.720
<v Speaker 10>But yeah, it was good, wasn't He's somehow connectedly if

1703
01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:29.279
<v Speaker 10>I'm got it wrong to Robert Mayhew.

1704
01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:30.920
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

1705
01:38:31.399 --> 01:38:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Caesar was work worked for the security He worked for

1706
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:38.399
<v Speaker 2>the security company, one of the security companies that you

1707
01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:42.079
<v Speaker 2>know did security, and that night he was a security guard,

1708
01:38:43.720 --> 01:38:47.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, because of the extra uh people that were

1709
01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the extra you know, the extra people at the venue.

1710
01:38:50.119 --> 01:38:53.640
<v Speaker 2>They they wanted additional security, not much, but they brought

1711
01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.319
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of years, so he was kind of

1712
01:38:56.399 --> 01:39:00.199
<v Speaker 2>like a last minute security ad guy. I'm sure you were.

1713
01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:04.079
<v Speaker 2>A thousand accusations have been made against Caesar. One of

1714
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the more interesting ones is that he owned a weapon

1715
01:39:07.439 --> 01:39:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that you know, matches the caliber and type that could

1716
01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:15.640
<v Speaker 2>have been used on Kennedy, and he sold it right afterwards,

1717
01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:20.079
<v Speaker 2>right after the event. And another interesting little piece of

1718
01:39:20.119 --> 01:39:22.920
<v Speaker 2>trivia is if you ever look at the famous picture

1719
01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>of Robert Kennedy laying on the floor right right, Uh,

1720
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:32.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a a tie laying next to him. It's a

1721
01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>clip on tie, right, Okay, that's literally the clip on tie.

1722
01:39:39.039 --> 01:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>He pulled off a thing Eugene Caesar's uniform when he

1723
01:39:44.960 --> 01:39:49.520
<v Speaker 2>was falling down. When he was falling down, Yeah, so

1724
01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>he was so he was that close.

1725
01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:51.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1726
01:39:51.960 --> 01:39:55.960
<v Speaker 10>I just remember hearing something that was book It was

1727
01:39:57.560 --> 01:39:59.399
<v Speaker 10>was he connected to Robert Mayhew?

1728
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Impossible.

1729
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:03.439
<v Speaker 10>I believe that Howard Hughes organization. And maybe I have

1730
01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:07.640
<v Speaker 10>that wrong, Maybe my memories a little foggy, and maybe I.

1731
01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:08.880
<v Speaker 4>Might be mixing that up.

1732
01:40:09.039 --> 01:40:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, no offense, but you living in California, You you

1733
01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:15.000
<v Speaker 2>in California, living in California at the time could have

1734
01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:19.600
<v Speaker 2>either knowingly or unknowingly had connection to Howard Hughes and Mayhew.

1735
01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean it seems like that that that particular shrub

1736
01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:28.319
<v Speaker 2>has roots that grow in every direction every time I

1737
01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:30.520
<v Speaker 2>looked at it. Yeah, no, I looked at even the

1738
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Playboy magazine stuff and the propaganda that went through and uh,

1739
01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:39.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, people writing articles and Howard Hughes and you

1740
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:42.760
<v Speaker 2>know the Hughes organization, and I've gone through a lot

1741
01:40:42.800 --> 01:40:45.319
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff. At the end of the day, what

1742
01:40:45.479 --> 01:40:48.880
<v Speaker 2>you have is a lot of fun connecting different pieces

1743
01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:52.399
<v Speaker 2>of things, but it doesn't you know, you can connect

1744
01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:57.359
<v Speaker 2>the world together eventually, but you gotta get some sort

1745
01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of evidence that has particular elements to it. And some

1746
01:41:01.079 --> 01:41:04.760
<v Speaker 2>people swear they have it and others, you know, I

1747
01:41:04.800 --> 01:41:07.079
<v Speaker 2>don't care what they swear. They're out of their body

1748
01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:13.439
<v Speaker 2>not no, not no, no. I wouldn't say there's zero

1749
01:41:13.640 --> 01:41:19.359
<v Speaker 2>hard evidence, but there's not enough to connect a complete sentence,

1750
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:23.479
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like you can't. Yeah, you

1751
01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:27.439
<v Speaker 2>could maybe say this is evidence, this is evidence, but

1752
01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the gap between those two things and then getting to

1753
01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:35.399
<v Speaker 2>the crime itself are difficult. You know, as far as

1754
01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I know now there could be somebody who's done newer

1755
01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>work on this that I don't know about fully up.

1756
01:41:41.680 --> 01:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, JFK. I feel confident if I tell

1757
01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you there's no evidence of something, But when it comes

1758
01:41:48.520 --> 01:41:51.119
<v Speaker 2>to RFK, even though I have studied it, I don't

1759
01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:53.520
<v Speaker 2>feel as confident to tell you about there's no evidence

1760
01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:58.359
<v Speaker 2>for that. But there's certainly not been presented publicly widely

1761
01:42:00.239 --> 01:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>enough evidence on that to make it a thing. Like

1762
01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I said, and Lisa's you know, Lisa does a lot

1763
01:42:05.560 --> 01:42:10.800
<v Speaker 2>of good research, but is she always connecting things together

1764
01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:15.760
<v Speaker 2>with good research? Open question? You know, my mind. And

1765
01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to be mean to her at all.

1766
01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm being direct. I've been accused of being mean to

1767
01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Lisa Peas in the past, but I'm not being mean

1768
01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:26.800
<v Speaker 2>to her. I'm just being honest. It's just I don't

1769
01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't agree that she's solved anything or giving us

1770
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:33.760
<v Speaker 2>anything really solid to run with, even in that new book.

1771
01:42:34.039 --> 01:42:34.479
<v Speaker 2>My mind.

1772
01:42:35.560 --> 01:42:38.479
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I enjoyed her new but like I said, when

1773
01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:41.239
<v Speaker 10>you got in the whole, you know, you was hypnotized,

1774
01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:46.439
<v Speaker 10>mind controlled. I just that's just that's just kind of

1775
01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:49.479
<v Speaker 10>that's the that's the one thing on that book that

1776
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:52.600
<v Speaker 10>kind of really through threw me off, because this is

1777
01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:56.079
<v Speaker 10>how a hard time buying it that anybody could be

1778
01:42:56.319 --> 01:42:59.600
<v Speaker 10>subjected to. And the only strange fact is that sir

1779
01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:04.279
<v Speaker 10>and claims that he doesn't remember anything you also brought

1780
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:07.319
<v Speaker 10>up he's did bought, sir handing that has been brought

1781
01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:11.920
<v Speaker 10>up on to be paroled, and he'll never get paroled.

1782
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:16.720
<v Speaker 10>I mean, I mean, I'm no governor here is going

1783
01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:17.079
<v Speaker 10>to do it.

1784
01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:18.479
<v Speaker 4>It's political.

1785
01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say he did get paroled.

1786
01:43:21.640 --> 01:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>The governor denied it last time, right, so you know.

1787
01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:28.880
<v Speaker 10>That board did I knew. I knew somebody who went

1788
01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:31.359
<v Speaker 10>up through the correction department on the troll board. You know,

1789
01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:34.039
<v Speaker 10>I don't know if he ever dealt with that case.

1790
01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:37.560
<v Speaker 10>I should have asked about it, but yeah, yeah, Gavin

1791
01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:40.279
<v Speaker 10>Newson did it. He denied it. I mean, you know,

1792
01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:44.039
<v Speaker 10>they they ran a recall. It was a really dumb ring.

1793
01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:46.920
<v Speaker 10>It was a waste of time and money. And so

1794
01:43:47.119 --> 01:43:49.680
<v Speaker 10>I mean all they would do is get fueled to

1795
01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:52.439
<v Speaker 10>just say, you know, to pay them is soft on crying,

1796
01:43:52.680 --> 01:43:56.600
<v Speaker 10>you know, even though their hands probably in reality an

1797
01:43:56.640 --> 01:43:58.000
<v Speaker 10>old man and no threat to.

1798
01:43:58.039 --> 01:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Anybody at this point in time. I doubt he's a

1799
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:03.039
<v Speaker 2>threat to anybody. But here's the muddy water that we're

1800
01:44:03.079 --> 01:44:05.119
<v Speaker 2>always going to have to live with. Regarding Sir Han,

1801
01:44:05.479 --> 01:44:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a couple of things real quick, and I'm being reminded

1802
01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that we're almost out of time. I'm sorry that I

1803
01:44:10.159 --> 01:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>somehow dragged us out of time here during this hour,

1804
01:44:12.920 --> 01:44:15.359
<v Speaker 2>but I think it's worthy to tell you about this

1805
01:44:15.560 --> 01:44:18.760
<v Speaker 2>real fast, Sir answer Han. When it comes to hypnosis

1806
01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:21.399
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, there is a curious and strange

1807
01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>history here, and there are some serious red flags regarding

1808
01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:27.239
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. Do I think he was a

1809
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>mind controlled zombie Manchurian can't know. I do not, but

1810
01:44:32.079 --> 01:44:34.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that I couldn't be wrong about that. Hold off.

1811
01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:37.159
<v Speaker 2>The thing is this, he was involved in a lot

1812
01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:40.039
<v Speaker 2>of self hypnosis stuff. We also, if you do a

1813
01:44:40.079 --> 01:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>little digging, find that he had a serious head injury

1814
01:44:43.039 --> 01:44:46.319
<v Speaker 2>at one point. It could be that there is brain

1815
01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:49.079
<v Speaker 2>damage involved here. It could be that he's just full

1816
01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:52.479
<v Speaker 2>of crap. It could be all those things. It could

1817
01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:56.520
<v Speaker 2>be a combination thereof. And here's the other scary thing.

1818
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Jolly West was in his proximity too. Just saying doctor West,

1819
01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:07.039
<v Speaker 2>here he is again, leave that alone. Forget all that

1820
01:45:07.319 --> 01:45:09.720
<v Speaker 2>he was involved in all kinds of self hypnosis. And

1821
01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>then a very interesting character conducted some hypnotic sessions with

1822
01:45:16.039 --> 01:45:19.119
<v Speaker 2>him too that are taped. They're out there, they're available.

1823
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:22.600
<v Speaker 2>They're very weird. It's the one if you guys don't

1824
01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:26.520
<v Speaker 2>know what it is. The doctor in quotes the doctor

1825
01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>conducting this turns around and goes, you son of a bitch.

1826
01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:32.079
<v Speaker 2>During the discussion, I know you got the gun, your

1827
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:33.560
<v Speaker 2>son of a bitch. What are you gonna do with it?

1828
01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Something like that, he says to him. Okay, little hostile

1829
01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:41.640
<v Speaker 2>sounds like to me from the guy conducting the hypnosis session.

1830
01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:46.399
<v Speaker 2>That's a whole weird thing, between the strangeness of some

1831
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:49.039
<v Speaker 2>of the people that have been there to be his advocate,

1832
01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:53.039
<v Speaker 2>and between the way the legal system handled him and

1833
01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the strange connections with his family, including his brother Manir,

1834
01:45:56.760 --> 01:46:01.119
<v Speaker 2>who probably is the one who actually purchased the gun. Okay,

1835
01:46:01.359 --> 01:46:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm almost competent in calling that a done deal. But

1836
01:46:06.880 --> 01:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>there's other things there. There's certain family members of his

1837
01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:14.079
<v Speaker 2>that he might have sought to protect. There is a

1838
01:46:14.279 --> 01:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>strange nexus of people that were supposedly working for and

1839
01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:21.520
<v Speaker 2>against Sir Hans, Sir Han, the people that are supposedly

1840
01:46:21.640 --> 01:46:25.359
<v Speaker 2>defending the Kennedy family, the people who hated the Kennedys

1841
01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and wanted to get the investigation over with, And oh

1842
01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:31.199
<v Speaker 2>my god, I don't want another Dallas. Screw this mess.

1843
01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:35.800
<v Speaker 2>And it's LAPD we're talking about. So I'm sorry. But

1844
01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:40.159
<v Speaker 2>my whole life, I've understood LAPD to be welcome to

1845
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the land of corruption. Okay, And that's just the way

1846
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:48.199
<v Speaker 2>it is. Maybe I'm wrong about all of it, but

1847
01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:51.439
<v Speaker 2>the RFK case, in my mind, is something that should

1848
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:54.600
<v Speaker 2>have been handled a lot better. At some point Trump's

1849
01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:56.920
<v Speaker 2>document dump. He did what he said he would do,

1850
01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:00.920
<v Speaker 2>But in reality, the federal government doesn't actually have all

1851
01:47:00.960 --> 01:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that much outside of what we described last night. So

1852
01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:06.960
<v Speaker 2>here's the deal. Now, the public has access to things

1853
01:47:07.399 --> 01:47:10.600
<v Speaker 2>that other researchers had to work real hard to get

1854
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:14.720
<v Speaker 2>their hands on a few years ago. Is there anything

1855
01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:17.319
<v Speaker 2>new in there? A few new things, But is it

1856
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:20.159
<v Speaker 2>going to be of interest? Maybe? Is it going to

1857
01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:21.199
<v Speaker 2>be the smoking gun?

1858
01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:21.760
<v Speaker 4>No?

1859
01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:25.399
<v Speaker 2>But here we go. What is that going to make

1860
01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:29.640
<v Speaker 2>RFK Junior happy? I know it's scored points for Trump politically,

1861
01:47:29.880 --> 01:47:31.479
<v Speaker 2>and that's what I think. At the end of the day,

1862
01:47:31.560 --> 01:47:35.199
<v Speaker 2>is interested in. And also I have it on really

1863
01:47:35.279 --> 01:47:37.279
<v Speaker 2>good authority, and I know B Pete's not going to

1864
01:47:37.399 --> 01:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>like this. Tulci Gabbard has no idea what she should

1865
01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>be asking certain people to look for. I would like

1866
01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:48.760
<v Speaker 2>it if somebody could step forward and give advice to

1867
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:52.359
<v Speaker 2>Tulsa Gabbard about what it is she should look for

1868
01:47:52.680 --> 01:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and try to release and be an advocate for, because

1869
01:47:56.399 --> 01:47:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Representative Luna is only going to go so far. Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Moore is our guy, blah blah blah. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, I don't think we're going to

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01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:09.159
<v Speaker 2>get much but a whole lot of intellectual masturbation out

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<v Speaker 2>of this unless somebody accidentally drops something really special, and

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be an accident, I assure you. But on RFK,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna get much. On MLK, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of federal elements that could should

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<v Speaker 2>would have been involved there. But when it comes to RFK,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody would have to press some agencies and good luck

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01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:35.800
<v Speaker 2>on that so and there might not be much there

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01:48:35.840 --> 01:48:39.359
<v Speaker 2>to begin with, because again California crime. So that's where

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01:48:39.359 --> 01:48:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I come down on the RFK thing, and hopefully I

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01:48:41.960 --> 01:48:44.239
<v Speaker 2>answered all of your questions as thoroughly as I could,

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01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:48.159
<v Speaker 2>and your customer service experience was excellent. Will you fill

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01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:52.840
<v Speaker 2>out the survey for me? You know, imagine me with

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01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:56.119
<v Speaker 2>one of those jobs. Yeah, bide again soon if or don't,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell sorry, got it?

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<v Speaker 10>I give it a five star rating.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I need a five star rating. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>don't hang up. Somebody's going to ask you a whole

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01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:09.479
<v Speaker 2>survey and take up twenty more minutes of your day.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, hold on. Yeah, I don't think i'd keep

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<v Speaker 2>that job long, but who knows, maybe I would, so, Danny,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you calling in man. Any final drop you

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<v Speaker 2>want to lay on us before we're done.

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<v Speaker 10>No, no, I appreciate your fox and insights on it.

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<v Speaker 10>It's just like I said, it just really purts my intention.

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<v Speaker 10>When you know that you started talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>as anybody asked the question of foreign influence, and when

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<v Speaker 10>you mentioned the Sabak It's just I was sleeping about,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, but with Parland's connection, I don't have the

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<v Speaker 10>name in front of me, and I just thought it

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01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:50.920
<v Speaker 10>was really an interesting aspect of the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, like I said, read Larry's stuff on it

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<v Speaker 2>and also read the rest of the rest of the

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01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:59.239
<v Speaker 2>pieces for free. You know, there's an academic paper there,

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01:49:59.239 --> 01:50:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and there's something else I have there, an article, a

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01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:03.960
<v Speaker 2>few things from my show notes. I put them in

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<v Speaker 2>the chatroom middochelli dot com too. Go ahead and read

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01:50:07.119 --> 01:50:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that stuff for free, and you know, let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>And who knows, maybe I actually have a PDF book

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01:50:13.279 --> 01:50:15.520
<v Speaker 2>or two laying around I could send to you by

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01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:17.880
<v Speaker 2>an email as well. If you're really interested in reading

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01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:20.199
<v Speaker 2>more on the case, I'll be happy to give you

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<v Speaker 2>what I can, no problem. So that's Danny for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>B Pete. I'm going to give the final couple of

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to you, my brother, because I didn't give you

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<v Speaker 2>much space to talk. I know we went back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth on a few things, but I didn't let you

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<v Speaker 2>get too much and I'm sorry kind of ran right

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of time as per usual.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's fine. I was moving ahead on that one

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<v Speaker 4>at Brent Holland documentary and.

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<v Speaker 5>Emily Oliver apparently has you know, a good effection and

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<v Speaker 5>time and this thing, and she was retelling her story

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<v Speaker 5>of the Yeah, the type Yashika's Super eight camera that

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01:51:04.119 --> 01:51:06.520
<v Speaker 5>she had that was you know didn't come out for

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<v Speaker 5>another four years. But she's adapted. She's pretty much like

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<v Speaker 5>Judith and that and the things. She's adapted her story to.

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<v Speaker 4>Get the facts that she got hung up on earlier

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<v Speaker 4>in telling her story. So she's completely rearranged it.

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<v Speaker 5>Apparently a guy she dated ran the Kodak store at

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<v Speaker 5>six Flags of Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>She dated a lot of Rochester. She dated a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guys though, I mean, wasn't she like banging a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of the cops and.

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<v Speaker 4>She banged everybody apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, but but she wasn't a bad girl, and she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a stripper, don't you forget it. She wasn't a stripper.

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<v Speaker 2>She was a sanger at Jack Ruby's club.

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<v Speaker 21>But it just amazes me that she suddenly, you know,

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<v Speaker 21>she's got a prototype camera that's a Yeshika that was

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<v Speaker 21>given to her by somebody that worked at in Rochester,

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<v Speaker 21>no less for Kodak, so you know how to Kodak

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<v Speaker 21>get prototype cameras from Ishika and Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing, who hell knows, who the hell knows, and who

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<v Speaker 2>the hell knows how it is she came up with

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<v Speaker 2>a whole disguise because once we finally showed her that

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<v Speaker 2>we could get a clear picture of all four ladies

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<v Speaker 2>with a babushka, and none of them looked like her.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, you know, I had on a wig, sunglasses,

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<v Speaker 2>a coat to make me look fat, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah she was, you know, so the only thing I wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, for some reason, I wonder who she was

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<v Speaker 4>working for. Was you know, was she with an agency?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I'll tell you this, at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of seventeen, that's quite an accomplishment. And also, to

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<v Speaker 2>be in that much of a disguise on a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>warm Texas day must have been sweaty. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one last thing about that, and I find real super interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>is that after all of that stuff, you mean to

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<v Speaker 2>tell me you were worried about getting busted with a

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<v Speaker 2>little pot in your camera case. So he just gave

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<v Speaker 2>it to the FBI agents.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I'm gonna drop a picture that suggests one of

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<v Speaker 2>the wonderful interesting films that she did in her very

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<v Speaker 2>short lived film career in the chatroom at ochelly dot

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<v Speaker 2>Com when I'm all done here, because we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the age of transitions coming up next. But

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<v Speaker 2>b Pete. Your final word for the week.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, just remind everybody to go to Shelly dot com

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<v Speaker 8>and get the donate button.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you said at the beginning of the problem

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<v Speaker 5>the big stuff's paid for, but the little stuff's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>add up, So do what you can to stick a

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<v Speaker 5>crowbar and your wallet and help us out with things

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<v Speaker 5>other than that. I'm appreciate everybody calling in, Jimmy and

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<v Speaker 5>Danny and looking forward to next week, and we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>See you then, and so am I, guys. And like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, coming up next we'll be Aaron Franz and

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<v Speaker 2>the Age of Transitions and that will be followed by

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<v Speaker 2>guess what, Uncle, Uncle the podcast and we'll do that

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<v Speaker 2>live here on Olly dot com. And in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hope we don't get taken over by nature Boys doppelganger.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be live all the way up to midnight tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay listening to olli dot com radio if you're listening live,

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<v Speaker 16>The Revelation.

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<v Speaker 17>Through Conversation Here Shelly Fact Oh, Shelley Fact Razer show, right,

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<v Speaker 17>Jay Throw you are the fash.

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<v Speaker 13>On the world. You are the fact. Yeah yeah, h.

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<v Speaker 4>M h.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, travels like through conversation, carried oh se

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<v Speaker 17>Alick, a sig alike, dreams and truth breaking through