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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Constance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you are a student in the Marblehead, Gloucester

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<v Speaker 2>or Beverly school system, no school tomorrow, now, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the kids are cheering. Hey, no school

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow and the other day off. Okay, well maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>all kids, but some. But I'll tell you who's probably

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<v Speaker 2>not cheering, and that's the parents of the kids in

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<v Speaker 2>those schools. Because when you think of this sort of

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<v Speaker 2>social contract that exists between taxpayers and the communities in

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<v Speaker 2>which they live. One portion of that social contract is

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<v Speaker 2>the taxpayers pay taxes, primarily real estate taxes in most

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts communities, to support the essential services, which include fire,

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<v Speaker 2>police EMTs. Your house catches fire, there's a robber coming

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<v Speaker 2>in your house, someone is choking, or someone is having

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<v Speaker 2>a metal emergency, you want to think that there'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a fire truck that pulls up, a police car or

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of an ambulance. One of the other parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the social contract is if you have children, or

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<v Speaker 2>if you live in the community, you support the school system,

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<v Speaker 2>and school systems in public school systems in Massachusetts are

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<v Speaker 2>quite expensive compared to many other states around the country.

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<v Speaker 2>But we pride ourselves on the quality of the public

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<v Speaker 2>school systems. We have very active teachers unions here in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>including the MTA, which are embarked on a very successful

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<v Speaker 2>ballot initiative this past fall in which they knocked out

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<v Speaker 2>the MCST tests, the Comprehensive Assessment Survey, and I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>that we will see the teachers' union becoming more and

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<v Speaker 2>more active. Right now, there are three communities that tonight

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to figure out what will their kids do

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow in Marblehead, Gloucester, in Beverly because school is out,

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<v Speaker 2>because the teachers' union is on strike. Now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>particularly interested in trying to negotiate on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 2>school committees or on behalf of the teachers union. The

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<v Speaker 2>teachers union always wants more money. That's understandable. That's understandable. However, However,

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<v Speaker 2>most people view benefits of being a teacher compensating, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>for not making a million dollars a year. Teachers do

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<v Speaker 2>not make a million dollars a year. They are highly compensated.

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<v Speaker 2>In most or in many Massachusetts communities. They make six figures.

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<v Speaker 2>They work from September to June. They have I would

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<v Speaker 2>say a fairly ample number of vacation days holidays during

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<v Speaker 2>the year. They work about one hundred and eighty school days.

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<v Speaker 2>They have in many respects on the ability to carry

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<v Speaker 2>over their sick days. They can once called bank days.

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<v Speaker 2>They have all sorts of parental leave when they have

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<v Speaker 2>a welcome a child. There are a lot of companies

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<v Speaker 2>that do not provide parental lead, certainly not paid parental leave.

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<v Speaker 2>And the teacher unions now are flexing their muscles in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will see more more teacher strikes in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 2>in the days, in the weeks, and the months and

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<v Speaker 2>the years ahead. Last winter, there was a nearly three

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<v Speaker 2>week teacher strike in the city of Newton, and at

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<v Speaker 2>that time Mayor Ruth Ann Fuller was beside herself because

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<v Speaker 2>teachers in Newton are very well compensated, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>eventually the strike was settled. The bottom line is the

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<v Speaker 2>teachers' union and the teachers are paid through the city

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<v Speaker 2>by the taxpayers, simple as that. So when there's a

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<v Speaker 2>teacher strike, besides the inconvenience that inflict on the family

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<v Speaker 2>and on the students, it also means that at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, the cost will be incurred by

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<v Speaker 2>the residents of that particular community. Oh, there's some other

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<v Speaker 2>revenue streams that come in, but the bulk of the money,

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<v Speaker 2>the salaries that teachers receive, come from the taxpayers in

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<v Speaker 2>their respective communities. Now, if you've noticed, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't if you haven't been paying attention, but most often

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<v Speaker 2>teachers strikes occur at two points during the school year.

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<v Speaker 2>They either occur when the school year commences in September,

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<v Speaker 2>or they now occur during the school year. So the

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<v Speaker 2>teachers striking Newton and end Over, and I think there

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<v Speaker 2>was wubrin if I'm not mistaken, they occurred during the

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<v Speaker 2>school year, and you have now three communities up on

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<v Speaker 2>the north Shore, Beverly, Gloucester and marble Head. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say that those three strikes are coordinated, but

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't surprise me if they were, because of the

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<v Speaker 2>geographic proximity of those three communities. So I made a

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<v Speaker 2>simple proposal last night, and I kind of came to

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<v Speaker 2>it during the program, and I want to hear if

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<v Speaker 2>you agree or disagree with me in this. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a legislature in Massachusetts that does not want to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up to the teachers' unions. With that we know, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the teachers' unions are now one of the most powerful

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<v Speaker 2>political organizations in Massachusetts. We've invited the head of the

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<v Speaker 2>teachers' union, the mass Teachers Association, to commit and join us.

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<v Speaker 2>He's more than welcome any night. His name is Max Page.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd be more than happy to have him come on

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<v Speaker 2>and discuss what the teachers' unions really are looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're interested, go to the Massachusetts Department of Education

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<v Speaker 2>slash teacher salaries and you can see how much teachers

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<v Speaker 2>the average teacher in the school system the community in

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<v Speaker 2>which you live receive. Okay, you'll find that interesting. Make

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<v Speaker 2>note that the statistics there are from calendar year twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one. For those of you paying attention, it

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<v Speaker 2>is now November of twenty twenty four, so those statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>those salaries, as generous as they as they appear, are

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<v Speaker 2>already three years old. So I have a simple solution

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid what is being inflicted on people, families, students

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<v Speaker 2>and parents in Marblehead, Gloucester and Beverly, and that is this.

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<v Speaker 2>Teacher strikes are illegal in Massachusetts, but it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that at least two of the teachers' union

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<v Speaker 2>should have been in court today. Listening to the various

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<v Speaker 2>news stations tonight, it didn't appear that those court hearings occurred.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's often the case. A judge says, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be back, we've got to stop this strike by

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<v Speaker 2>noon on Tuesday. Well, noon on Tuesday comes, and noon

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday and Wednesday comes. Occasionally there's a judge who

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<v Speaker 2>will stand up to the teachers union, but that's some

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<v Speaker 2>few and far between. So here's my simple proposal. If

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<v Speaker 2>let us say a contract, a teacher's contract in any

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts community is to end, they all end on June thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the of the school year. So

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<v Speaker 2>what I would suggest is that the union and the

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<v Speaker 2>school committees should be informed by the state legislature that

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<v Speaker 2>one year before the contract is supposed to be renewed,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be the following September first. So when when

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<v Speaker 2>the final year of the school contract is about to

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<v Speaker 2>begin on September first, the previous July in August, the

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<v Speaker 2>union and the school committee or whoever's the bargaining agent

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<v Speaker 2>have to spend some time not during the school year

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<v Speaker 2>but in July and August negotiating. Now, if they can

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<v Speaker 2>negotiate an agreement a year ahead of time, that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>much better than negotiating an agreement a year into the contract,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course makes it possible for them to strike

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<v Speaker 2>during the year. Now, let's assume that they have. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just use as an example. Let's assume that these contracts

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<v Speaker 2>were due to be renewed on September first of this year,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think they were. That means that a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer of twenty twenty three, July and August

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty three, there should have been contract conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>serious discussions begun. If they completed their negotiations successfully and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was happy, which is unlikely because one side will

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<v Speaker 2>always fight the other, then they start in September. They

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<v Speaker 2>would have started in this September to the final year

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<v Speaker 2>of the contract. Okay, so the contract ends. The last

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<v Speaker 2>year of the contract ends on June thirtieth. On that

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<v Speaker 2>next summer, the union and the school committee is forced

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<v Speaker 2>to negotiate, and that negotiation would be overseen by some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a mediator or an arbiter, and eventually it

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<v Speaker 2>would be binding arbitration, which would mean sometime around August fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>the arbiter would say to both the union and to

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<v Speaker 2>this community, I want your last and final offer, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the arbiter would decide what the contract will be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now I know that that would drive the union crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>it probably would drive the school committee's crazy, but it

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<v Speaker 2>would force an agreement binding arbitration. So that means that

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<v Speaker 2>if there would be an incentive built in for both

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<v Speaker 2>to be more reasonable and if they weren't, if let's

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<v Speaker 2>say the union said we want ten, twelve and fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the next three year contract and the community

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<v Speaker 2>offered I don't know, you know, two four and six

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<v Speaker 2>on a three year contract, then it would be after

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<v Speaker 2>the arbit to decide which it is, and the arbita

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<v Speaker 2>could go completely for the school committee or go completely

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<v Speaker 2>for the union. I'll be somewhere in between. That is

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<v Speaker 2>my humble proposal, because if that proposal was ever adopted

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<v Speaker 2>by our legislature, it would ensure that there would be

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<v Speaker 2>no strikes during the school year because one the negotiations

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<v Speaker 2>would have occurred a year ahead of time, would have

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<v Speaker 2>begun a here ahead of time, and they would have

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<v Speaker 2>to have been done in July and August during summer vacation,

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<v Speaker 2>so the union leaders they would have an incentive to

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<v Speaker 2>get the negotiations over with, as would the school committee.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a pretty simple idea, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it is one that we should look at very

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<v Speaker 2>seriously here in Massachusetts. Now, I'm going to open up

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<v Speaker 2>the phone lines. I'm going to hope that I hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you. If you agree with me and you think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good idea, tell me. If you disagree with me,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me why. Bottom line is there is a social contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll come back to where I started. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>the UAW, the Autoworkers of America on the line, This

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<v Speaker 2>is not Boeing, This is not even radio and TV

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<v Speaker 2>stations employees. This is a social contract that exists between

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<v Speaker 2>the community and the teachers. No one has drafted these

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<v Speaker 2>teachers to become teachers. No one has forced them to

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<v Speaker 2>become teachers. They have asked and studied to become teachers.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of benefits to being a teacher. One

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<v Speaker 2>of them is not you know, million dollar salaries. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you work long enough, if you work thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make three four million dollars as a teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to get a really good pension at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day. But your job is to

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<v Speaker 2>educate kids and not go out and strike during the

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<v Speaker 2>school year. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I am

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<v Speaker 2>deadly serious. This is what should be adopted. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there will be people who will of all sorts of objections.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine, let's hear them, let's get them out on

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<v Speaker 2>the table, and I'm sure there'll be some people out

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<v Speaker 2>there are going to say that's a pretty good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a call. Six one seven, two, five four

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to make you think that I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>what you think. I just want to make sure you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about this last night. This is what I've

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<v Speaker 2>come up with. Come up with your own idea, come up,

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<v Speaker 2>let's but let's talk about it back here on Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, when I use the word social contract, I'm using

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<v Speaker 2>that specifically because there is a contract here that's above

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond salary. The salaries for teachers in Massachusetts are good, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>are good. I've heard about some of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>are being asked for, like recovery rooms for teachers and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, guys, come on, you picked the profession. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Every job has its pluses and every job has its minuses,

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<v Speaker 2>and you cannot eliminate every inconvenience, every minus from a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you're going to get a kid in a classroom.

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<v Speaker 2>It was tough to deal with. I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>have support on that. But at the same time, you

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<v Speaker 2>have engaged in a social contract. You have said I

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<v Speaker 2>teacher because I want to teach kids, not because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to walk up picket line. Let's go to the calls.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree to disagree, that's fine, it's I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>to look at and consider and actually come to a conclusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin and Marlborough, Justin, thanks for calling in. How are

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome in good stings sense to taking back call. I

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<v Speaker 3>like you, I like your idea and I think the

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<v Speaker 3>teachers to be grateful, because what annoys me is that

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<v Speaker 3>it's against the law to strike, and laws don't mean

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<v Speaker 3>anything in the state. We have an attorney general that

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<v Speaker 3>was hard to say it's not illegal to be illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's amazing to me. And what happened in

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<v Speaker 3>Franklin back in the nineteen seventies, this would solve all

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<v Speaker 3>our problems. They invested to teach.

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<v Speaker 2>Refreshed my recollection. What happened to Franklin.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin the Franklin teachers, I think it was very nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy eight went on strike and my neighbor was a

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<v Speaker 3>state trooper and his wife was a teacher, and they

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<v Speaker 3>made the front page of the Boston New Boston Globe

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<v Speaker 3>because he arrested her and they spent a week in jail.

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<v Speaker 3>They got strip searched. Trust me, the Franklin teachers never

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<v Speaker 3>went on strike again.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, was his wife the head of the union.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't as soon as soon as a junior

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, normally, very rarely did our teachers put in

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<v Speaker 2>jail because they all were a contempt here. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize they were all put in jail. I gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>back to check. I know, well it is illegal. But

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is the judgment committed. The judge will say,

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<v Speaker 2>look to the union leaders, if you don't order your

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<v Speaker 2>teachers back to work by tomorrow at eight o'clock, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna find you ten thousand dollars a day, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't come back the next day, the final will

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<v Speaker 2>be double the twenty thousand. Then it will be double

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<v Speaker 2>to forty thousand. So what happens is sometimes when they

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<v Speaker 2>finally do settle, the judge will say, okay, you have settled.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to cut the fines back to ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars and that'll be paid by the Massachusetts Teachers Association,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course it'll eventually be recaptured in the dues

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<v Speaker 2>from the from the teachers, because the dues are going

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<v Speaker 2>to go up. And everybody kind of figures it's a wash,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just not fair. The people who are victimized

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<v Speaker 2>here are the kids and the parents of kids. Most

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<v Speaker 2>parents work during the day, you know, particularly if the

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<v Speaker 2>kids are older, maybe they have a babysitter but lined up,

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<v Speaker 2>or what happens if if they don't have a babysitter

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<v Speaker 2>lined up during the school day because they assume that

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<v Speaker 2>kids are going to be in school. What do they

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<v Speaker 2>do for their job? It's it's it's nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>And none of the teachers in Newton looked stressed or

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<v Speaker 3>worried when they were on stress. They didn't have the

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<v Speaker 3>wory of getting arrested. They didn't having fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's like it's well, I don't think they enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>being outside in the middle of January. But putting that aside, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was, uh, it was kind of a party atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's yeah, that's something that I think is troubling.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do think it's troubling, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>I think that my proposal is one that the legislatures

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<v Speaker 2>should consider because I think this teacher strike thing is

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<v Speaker 2>only going to get worser in Massachusetts as time goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin, I hope you listen to you, Dan. I look

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<v Speaker 3>forward to seeing the dan Way.

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<v Speaker 2>Teacher. Yeah, the the the teachers strike law. We'll see. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you soon. Have a great night. Good I okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So that opens up one line at six, one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. When we get back, I got Claudette, I

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<v Speaker 2>got Bill, and I got some room for you at

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<v Speaker 2>six one, seven nine. I'm making a very serious proposal.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that someone in the legislature's listening and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is something. All this is doing insane to teachers unions. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>start your negotiation a year in advance. If so happens

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<v Speaker 2>that you come to an agreement, that's great, that provides

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<v Speaker 2>continuity of school. If you don't get together on an

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<v Speaker 2>agreement a year in advance, then the summer before you

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<v Speaker 2>got to go back to school without a contract. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want teachers going back to school without a contract.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to have a negotiation. And it's only in

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<v Speaker 2>July and August, okay, and on August fifteenth. If you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't come to an agreement, if everything hasn't been decided,

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<v Speaker 2>if everything hasn't been decided, then you are going to

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<v Speaker 2>submit to the to the arbiter or the mediator, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>be compulsory or compulsory arbitration, compulsory mediation, and they will decide.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the same way that goes on in professional

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<v Speaker 2>sports when a player and a team kind of agree,

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<v Speaker 2>depending upon the situation. Sometimes they say to a player,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, go find somewhere else. You can't do that

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<v Speaker 2>with teachers. You can't do it with teachers. But we

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<v Speaker 2>got to do something that's going to change the dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>and stop the teacher strikes for the sake for truly,

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<v Speaker 2>for the sake of the students, and for the sake

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<v Speaker 2>of the parents and the families of the students. I

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<v Speaker 2>firmly believe in what I'm saying. I hope you'll agree

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<v Speaker 2>or disagree. I don't care which, but I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, back we go. Let me go to Claude Dette,

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<v Speaker 2>who is joining us tonight from New Bedford. Claude ed

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Nightside. How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fine? Thank you yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing just great. I don't know that I've ever had

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<v Speaker 2>the pleasure of you calling my show. Is this your

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<v Speaker 2>first time calling?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>A first time call?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're going to get you a role of a

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<v Speaker 2>posse of my digital studio audience. You go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your thought on this?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>I am a former teacher. I've not since retired, but

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<v Speaker 4>in New Bedford and nineteen sixty eight, we were the

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<v Speaker 4>first ones to go on strike, and people were arrested

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<v Speaker 4>and they went to jail. And this was done the

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<v Speaker 4>teacher beginning of the school year.

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<v Speaker 2>No, let me ask you, was it the teachers or

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<v Speaker 2>the leadership? Did they arrest teachers? Just teachers as well

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<v Speaker 2>as the school.

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<v Speaker 4>They arrested teachers the I think they did direst some administrators,

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<v Speaker 4>but they had to separate after that.

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<v Speaker 2>They had no What I meant was normally what I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen happen is that they have. When I was a

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<v Speaker 2>reporter and TV clad, they would order the union leaders

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the union to go back to work, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they would threaten the union leaders with prison. Justin

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<v Speaker 2>talked about teachers being arrested in Framingham. I you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not interested in seeing teachers being arrested. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a good thing. Did you think about my

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<v Speaker 2>idea about forcing them to have the negotiations? Seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me like they always wait till they've been working without

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<v Speaker 2>a contract for six months, and I just think that's dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it done early.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>True, I agree with you on that most certainly. Getting

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<v Speaker 4>back to the new Bedford situation, the strike occurred prior

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<v Speaker 4>to the beginning of the school year, so that was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good. But I'm curious, as do the teachers in

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<v Speaker 4>those areas around Boston. Do they get their health insurance

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<v Speaker 4>from the school department? Are they given that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I believe every teacher in Massachusetts gets their health insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that is a part of the contract negotiation,

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<v Speaker 2>and they should get their health insurance from the community.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, right, I guess they do it in New Bedford now,

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<v Speaker 4>But I remember I paid my own health insurance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, things have gotten better for teachers unions, as

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<v Speaker 2>they should have, but I think we've reached a tipping

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<v Speaker 2>point when the teachers' unions they most teachers in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>even in the smallest communities, are making you know, on average,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand dollars, okay, and in a lot of communities

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<v Speaker 2>they're making one hundred thousand dollars, a salary that you

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<v Speaker 2>can't even you would not have even talked about. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the economy is different today. You couldn't live today on

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<v Speaker 2>what you were paid when you were a teacher. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind seeing teachers having competitive salaries. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I would support that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I retired in two thousand and three, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>on maximum pay for my step increase was fifty six

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again back twenty years ago, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty decent salary. You weren't going to become a millionaire,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was a decent salary. When I graduated from college,

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<v Speaker 2>which was, you know, in the last century, I actually was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was an English major before I went to law school,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a minor teaching certificate. And at that time, teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>this was in the nineteen seventies, you could look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to making maybe twenty thousand dollars as a starting teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought to myself, Wow, twenty thousand dollars over

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<v Speaker 2>career thirty years, that's going to be six hundred thousand dollars. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>salaries have increased across the board since then as well

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<v Speaker 2>they should. But teachers now, on average in Massachusetts, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are exceptions, but you can look at the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Education statistics can eighty ninety thousand dollars on average. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>starting teachers make less, experienced teachers make more, but on

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<v Speaker 2>average eighty ninety thousand dollars, and many teachers now make

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<v Speaker 2>in excess of one hundred thousand dollars, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a problem with that, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>that those salaries should be decided in advance of a

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<v Speaker 2>school year and the teacher should not use the students

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<v Speaker 4>And I have another question. Are these teachers being paid

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<v Speaker 4>while they're on strike?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they drawing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I think that in one of the communities,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was marvel Head, the teachers have been

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<v Speaker 2>told they will not be paid during while they're on strike.

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<v Speaker 2>But what happens is when they finally come to an agreement,

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<v Speaker 2>the union will say to the school committee, look, we

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<v Speaker 2>want you to give us back pay for the one

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<v Speaker 2>week or if we run strike. In the school committee

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, well, we'll go ahead and pay them

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<v Speaker 2>because that money was budgeted. So that's what that's generally

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<v Speaker 2>what happens in the situation. In situation likeage, the school

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<v Speaker 2>committee as part of the agreement. You know, at that

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<v Speaker 2>point we're all singing Kumbai yah and the glad that

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<v Speaker 2>the strike is over. So the union has all the

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<v Speaker 2>leverage here in my opinion. In my opinion, Claudette, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for what you did as a teacher. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you have a lot of pride in the young

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<v Speaker 2>men and women who you run into today at the

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<v Speaker 2>grocery store or on the street, and they'll say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you remember me? I was a student of yours.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that happens all the time. Let me say

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<v Speaker 4>you one thing, if you became if you became an

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<v Speaker 4>English teacher, yep, you would be working long hours every day,

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<v Speaker 4>correcting essays and everything else. English teachers had it the worst.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean when you know people are saying, oh, the

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<v Speaker 4>only work six hours a day now because you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to bring home all your correction and all this other

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<v Speaker 4>stuff and you have to do your lesson plans.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what time I start to work every day?

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<v Speaker 2>I do a show from eight to midnight. What time

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<v Speaker 2>do you think I start working every day? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine o'clock in the morning. I'm on the phone at

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock in the morning with my producer Marita uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going over, Okay, what are we thinking about?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, what are the possible issues we can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about tonight? Okay. So and again I do it

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<v Speaker 2>because I like it. Do I have to do it? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I could quit tomorrow if I wanted to. But I

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<v Speaker 2>like my job and I enjoy conversing with people like

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and learning from you and learning from Justin and

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<v Speaker 2>Marlborough from different different experiences. For me, that's the best

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<v Speaker 2>part of the day when I get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>talk with you. But during the day it can be agonizing.

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<v Speaker 2>What what stories are we going to cover? What are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to do? Are people going to be interested

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<v Speaker 2>in this? You know, I'm not getting overwhelmed with phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls on this topic, but I'm sticking with it because

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an incredibly important topic, not only for

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<v Speaker 2>the Comwalth of Massachusetts. It's important for the teachers' unions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important for the students, and it's important for the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not the sexiest topic in the world to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, Claudette, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Committed to doing it, and I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 2>much I appreciate that you would take the time to

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<v Speaker 2>call and share your experience and thank you for the job.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, sir, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, You're very welcome. Hope to hear from me again. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks claud thank you very much. Maybe I hope so

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to your second call. No applause in the

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<v Speaker 2>second call, but you got the applause tonight, Thanks Claude.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you, good night, six.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven, good night six one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to talk about this till ten o'clock. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill and Natick awaits on the other side. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't think this is an important subject, you're not thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're not thinking, you shouldn't be listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side, because that's what my job is is to

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<v Speaker 2>make you think. I don't care what you think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I care what you think, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>want you to think think about this. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>proposal that I think is important, not because I came

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<v Speaker 2>up with it, but it is a reform that we

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<v Speaker 2>could consider here in Massachusetts which might make life easier

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<v Speaker 2>for parents, for students, and for teachers. The union won't

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<v Speaker 2>support this, I guarantee you that. I guarantee you that,

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<v Speaker 2>but if teachers think about it, they'll realize this will

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<v Speaker 2>make their lives easier and it'll make their students' lives better.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what I think. Good teachers are all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Place Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Next is Bill and Natick. Bill, I appreciate you holding

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<v Speaker 2>on you Next on Nightside, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I was a pleasure talk to you.

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<v Speaker 5>My background is I've never been a teacher, and I

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't want to be one. However, I am an elected

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<v Speaker 5>town meeting member. My neighbors wrote my name in without

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<v Speaker 5>telling me, and they've re elected me for forty seven years.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just want to say that I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 5>that I agree with you on your plan. I agree

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<v Speaker 5>with many of the things you've said over the years.

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<v Speaker 5>But what strikes me in particular about these three towns

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<v Speaker 5>I would like information. I would like to know when

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<v Speaker 5>either side first requested to Bogging about the contract. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>was it at the end of the school year or

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<v Speaker 5>was it beforehand?

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<v Speaker 6>The other thing that, yeah, Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold of a second, I don't have an answer to

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<v Speaker 2>that question, but I will tell you I think that

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<v Speaker 2>human nature, you tend to put the things off, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if it's doctor's appointments or dentist appointments,

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<v Speaker 2>or you've got to go to the store. I think

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<v Speaker 2>people we tend to kind of, Oh, the Patriots game

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<v Speaker 2>is on, I'll watch them, you know, That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that the proposal I'm making would force them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in professional sports, if you're a professional athlete,

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<v Speaker 2>the team has to offer you a contract by a

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<v Speaker 2>certain data you become a free agent. They you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they got to make a decision, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to decide by a certain date if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>accept that offer or not. There are there are there

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<v Speaker 2>were rules and regulations imposed because if you did that,

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox would open the season in April and

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<v Speaker 2>half the team would be minor league Baseball players and

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<v Speaker 2>the lot of the guys would be sitting sitting at

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<v Speaker 2>home waiting for a contract offer. It'say, now, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just no, no, but I just they were just say,

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<v Speaker 2>you're joking here, but you want to see your best

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<v Speaker 2>players on the field on opening day. Same way with

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. You know, they got to report the camp

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<v Speaker 2>by a certain date, and if they don't report the

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<v Speaker 2>camp by a certain date, they get fot. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it just makes common sense is what I'm truly trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say, And so that's.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you wholeheartedly. But one of the things

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<v Speaker 5>that strikes me about this situation is I would consider

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<v Speaker 5>a teacher strike an emergency, wouldn't you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I would.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, if I was a school community member and I say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>we want to buy it first thing in the morning,

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<v Speaker 5>at nine o'clock, or if these two towns didsa at

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<v Speaker 5>nine o'clock and ten o'clock. One of the towns says, no,

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<v Speaker 5>we can't get together at three o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the time to begin the bargaining would

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<v Speaker 2>have been months ago. They should because.

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<v Speaker 5>Now we have an emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I get it. No, I get it. I totally

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<v Speaker 2>get it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So that makes me suspect a little bit more. I

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<v Speaker 5>always want the facts, and I agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 5>think your plan is a way to go, and I

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<v Speaker 5>wish we could all adopt it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's see, I wish I had more people responding

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<v Speaker 2>to the call tonight. But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>This is one that this is a shortness I've ever waited.

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<v Speaker 5>I've called it times over the years, but most times

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I just say that and I do appreciate.

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<v Speaker 2>But I what I'm saying is that this is one

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<v Speaker 2>that makes people think. And I don't know. I I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to put the same show on the radio

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<v Speaker 2>every night. I mean, I'm I spend time during the

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<v Speaker 2>day trying to come up with even if it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same subject, I want to get a different angle on it.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to get a different And you do a

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<v Speaker 5>good job, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, whatever, and I'll do it as long as

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<v Speaker 2>I can. And when when my time is up, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>have another talk show host.

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<v Speaker 5>Who maybe I'm in real estate, do a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>rentals and I'll be eighty next year. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to do it as long as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it all right, because you like the job.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it comes down to. Bill. Appreciate your call

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<v Speaker 2>very much.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Okay, you for being man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Good night. Let me go to

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Lynn. Mike your next time nights. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you calling in.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Mike, Hey, mister Dan, how are you doing today.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. Go ahead, Mike. What's what's your take

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<v Speaker 2>on this?

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<v Speaker 6>Mike taking this? I do agree with the teachers Per's

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<v Speaker 6>good people. And if you do the math, ninety percent

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<v Speaker 6>of the workforce they are women and they are good people.

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<v Speaker 6>I gotta tell you this story. In two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 6>I was a single father living in North Quincy. Now

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<v Speaker 6>I live in Land, and I will remember always missus Lyon.

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<v Speaker 6>My daughter was going to PMS. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 6>PMS is, and she helped me and she used to

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<v Speaker 6>check on me every Saturday. So ninety or one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>percent of all the teachers there are women, and there

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<v Speaker 6>are good people, and they deserve the best.

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<v Speaker 2>So the question, though, is this, This is the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree with you, okay. As matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I think teachers become teachers all the right reasons. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that some teachers get burned out, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's a story for another day. It just seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me that once the school year starts, the contract should

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<v Speaker 2>be in place. The teachers should be satisfied, they should

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<v Speaker 2>know what they're receiving. How would you like to be

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<v Speaker 2>a parent. You said you were the parent of a daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>single dad, How would you like to have been I

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<v Speaker 2>assume you probably were working and your daughter went off

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<v Speaker 2>to school, and you went off to work and the

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<v Speaker 2>difficult set of circumstances. I get it. How would you

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<v Speaker 2>like to have seen the Quincy teachers you and you

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<v Speaker 2>go out and strike? How would you be able to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of your daughter during the day and still

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<v Speaker 2>go to work. You couldn't do both things simultaneously, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't do both.

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<v Speaker 6>But I agree with them, and the reason why I

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<v Speaker 6>think because they have three months off in the year

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<v Speaker 6>and they getting paid. They don't getting paid enough. They

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<v Speaker 6>can even afford to have a house. They have to

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<v Speaker 6>have that or boyfriend so they can make cup four expensive?

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<v Speaker 2>How much? Let me ask you this. You live in Lynn, right,

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<v Speaker 2>do you own a house in Linn?

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<v Speaker 6>I own a house in Line A play and I

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<v Speaker 6>guess you pay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you pay your your taxes. I understand that. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think the average teacher makes in Linn?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, in the Linn publics fifty sixty five Maybe

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<v Speaker 6>if they're lucky, ninety thousands, but I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 6>To be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to tell you what they make. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>In I'm looking at the state reports here from uh

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<v Speaker 2>this is twenty and twenty to twenty twenty one. So

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<v Speaker 2>these are the latest numbers they have. Okay, the latest

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<v Speaker 2>numbers that we have is from twenty twenty one. The

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<v Speaker 2>average salary in Lind, the average salary in Linn four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago eighty two, one hundred and sixty two dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad salary four years So.

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<v Speaker 6>You've got to you've gotta have to keep in mind

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<v Speaker 6>the expenses. They have a lot of expenses. They have children,

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<v Speaker 6>They have kids, they have a house.

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<v Speaker 2>Shure they do. How much should they? How much should

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<v Speaker 2>the how much? Then? If if the teachers salary, average

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<v Speaker 2>teacher salary is eighty two thousand dollars four years ago

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<v Speaker 2>in Lind, it's probably about ninety five thousand dollars today.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's assume it's ninety how much should teachers in

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<v Speaker 2>Lind What should the average salary be? Give me a number, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Will say, honestly, not only in Lint, No, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 6>about in Lind one twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred twenty Okay, good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're you.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you you realize that you'll be paying for that,

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<v Speaker 2>so your real estate taxes will go up dramatically. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're a better person than I am to

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<v Speaker 2>think that the teachers should be, on an average receiving that.

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<v Speaker 6>Much money because you know, you know the reason why,

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<v Speaker 6>the reason why they go to work every single day,

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<v Speaker 6>and they too kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna put up with callers. Hey, Mike, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to do this to you, but I'm flat out

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<v Speaker 2>of time. Have you called before since your first time calling?

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<v Speaker 6>This is my first time calling.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta give you a bun and a clause and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to your calling back. You a great caller.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Mike. I appreciate it very much. We had

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<v Speaker 2>done with this topic. Sadly, we will change topics right

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<v Speaker 2>after the ten o'clock news Here at night Side