Speaker 1: I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson
Junior Show on KBLA Talk fifteen Haiti. We've been having
a fascinating conversation about the state of Palestinian people in Dagaza.
Our very special guest has been a doctor Ania Decock,
Head of Policy and Laison Unit with the United Nations
Population Fund Humanitarian Office. Doctor decc provides UNFPA country and
regional offices with advice on policy coordination and technical support
related to humanitarian preparedness, emergency response, disaster, risk reduction, recovery
and resilience. Her goal and role is to advance the
gender equality, to promote sexual and reproductive health and rights,
including minstrel health, mental health and psychosocial support for book
and respond to gender based violence issues in humanitarian settings.
Doctor Decock, welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Jesse. I'm so glad to be
with you today.
Speaker 1: You know, in the first hour we talked about some
of the difficulties of pregnancies within the Gaza and the
circumstances under which children are born into the world. Under
those particular circumstances, I can only imagine that the ability
to deliver mental health services to women who are struggling
with difficult pregnancies and the trauma of war itself must
be its own unique challenge. I can imagine in this
moment that mental health services are probably the very last
available services given the urgent need for other critical care
in the in the maternal process. Doctor de Coca, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know the reality of the matter.
Speaker 3: Yes, mental health and psychosocial support has been needed in
Gaza for many years. There has been a lot of
work on mental health and psycho social support because of
you know, this is a generational trauma. This is not
just yesterday trauma. It's not twenty twenty three trauma. It's
a trauma since nineteen forty eight going onward.
Speaker 2: So it's a generational trauma.
Speaker 3: We talk about it really, you know, like you are
talking about people who are born in refugee camps and
you know they have to survive on a daily basis
and really be able to.
Speaker 2: Grow and rebuild.
Speaker 3: And have families. So it's not an easy situation. Currently,
mental health is number one needed. Plus you know, maternal
health is very needed. Everything is needed at the moment,
you know, like you are talking about also, you know,
bad water and sanitation situation where a lot of.
Speaker 2: Water born diseases.
Speaker 3: Are happening and infections because of lack of sanitation, and
these are the situation that a lot of the children,
the newborns are facing. You know, if you don't have
clean water, what are you going? And it's the only
water that you could have is the seawater. Otherwise, you know,
there is no other water coming like clean water into Gaza.
So it's very difficult to like to truly understand that
when you don't have electricity, you don't have water, you
don't have you know, university schools, medical health care, attacks
mentally everybody, you know what I mean. It's like eighty
percent of mental health issues is daily life issues. If
you improve the situation, a lot of people could improve.
But if doesn't happen, then these people are going to
really suffer.
Speaker 2: Postraumatic syndrome. You know a lot of children.
Speaker 3: Then sleep, you know, they have nightmares, bedwetting, you know,
you name it. A lot of women have you know
a lot of depressions that we are dealing with a
lot of stress and depression and so a lot of
people are suffering. Elderly there is a lot of children
who have been an accompanied at the moment because their
family members have died and there's nobody else to take
care of them.
Speaker 2: Plus they might be also injured on top of that.
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, this is not the first
time that there is you know, these type of attacks.
Twenty eighteen, there was you know, another one in two
thousand and nine, there was several of these type of
situations where Gaza was attacked and people were bombed in
their houses and many families actually have have just been
whipped out of the Silver history. They are not there
anymore because they have just died. You know, we are
talking about more than seventy one thousand that have died
like because of the war, but we are not talking
about the numbers that are dying because of the unhealthy
conditions that they are living in. So that's another thing
that we really need to understand that, you know, people
are dying also from infections, people are dying from hypothermia,
People are dying from different things because of the conditions
that they.
Speaker 2: Are living in.
Speaker 3: So you are not talking about only the seventy one
thousand that were wounded and died, you know, like the
seventy one died because of you know, shrapnels, bombs and
all of that. But we also are talking about people
who are dying because there is no medical care available
at the moment.
Speaker 1: To that, I know that we're going to be coming
forward in about thirty seconds. And so that's that's how
we saying that we have a break here on Kibi
only top fifteen to eighty. But who speaks for the
people of the Gaza.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's again, you know what I mean, nobody is
listening to the people of Gaza. The people of Gaza
who basically were on social media, you know what, they
were speaking about what is happening to them on a
daily basis. The UN is speaking about what is happening
on a daily basis. The civil society, you know, the
international civil society, who have been witnessing, who have actually
been on the ground in Gaza. They are witnessing and
they are talking about what is happening to the Gaza people.
I think the UN has spoken so many times about
the situation in Gaza, but nobody is listening at the moment.
Speaker 2: Also, Israel has spared.
Speaker 3: A lot of the you like, not only the you
An agency, but the International Jeels also from non governmental organization.
Speaker 1: Doctor we come forward will have more discussions on editions
of the Palestindians in the Gaza and in the West Bank.
I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Listen Jesse Jackson Junior Show on
Cabulity Talk fifteen eighty more when we come forward. Jesse
Jackson Junior. Welcome Ford to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Before joining the United Nations, doctor Ania Decock in June
of two thousand and four was the Director of Relief
and Development Programs with International Medical Corps. She managed and
developed technical aspect of service delivery programming to improve quality
of care within IMC global programs and relief and development
settings throughout Africa, Central Asia, the Middle East, Southeast Asia.
She's also worked as technical advisor for the Reproductive Health
in Conflict Consort. Doctor Deacock, Welcome forward to the Jesse
Jackson Juniors. Will thank you, Jesse, and I know that
we're in a little bit of a challenge with the
siren that's in the background. I can understand that.
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 1: So I did want to ask you and this is
our final segment, and I'm so grateful that you were
able to stay with us from from your perspective, other
than the United Nations, are there other partners around the
world that are stepping up to address the humanitarian crisis
that exists in the Gaza and in the West Bank?
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yes, there are a lot of international non governmental organization
that has worked in Palestine, in Gaza, West Bank and
Isjerus and for many.
Speaker 2: Years, for many decades. I can name few of them.
Speaker 3: Care International International Rescue Committee, International Medical Core Project, Hope,
you know, there are OXFAM.
Speaker 2: Catholic Relief Services. All of them are you know, are
part and.
Speaker 3: Parcel of the international community that existed and still exists
in Palestine. Although recently, you know, there was an order
to really uh not provide authorization for international uh non
governmental organization to work in in in Palestine, in the
West Bank and in Gaza and is Jerusalem. So this
is something that was you know, like sort of a
band of international organization from really working and supporting the
Palestinian community to really survive the situation that they are
living under at the moment. So it's very important that
the international community continued to be present, especially like the
non governmental organization to be present and be able to
see what's going on and be also the eyes and
ears for the Palestinian people well in Galza, West Bank
and Jerusalem. So and it's Jerusalem. These are still you know,
is Jerusalem. Although it was annex by by Israel, it's
still you know, I mean, not considered an Israeli territory
by international community. It's still contested area and never like
the issue of Jerusalem, have never been resolved at all.
Speaker 2: So I think this is very very.
Speaker 3: Important issue that still people don't you know, understand that
there are a Palestinian community in Jerusalem that has at
the moment not a lot of support also from the
international community, if these organizations stop being there and active
in providing support. So I think we need the international
community to continue being in Galza, West Bank and Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: I'd like to take this opportunity to shared just a
little bit of my family's history in this conflict. My
mother was a close and dear friend of the late
Anhwar Sadata, the late president of Egypt, and even when
I was a member of Congress, I spent number of
trips meeting with Hosny and Mubarak. The success to anwar
Sadat in Egypt and worked very closely with the Foreign
Operations Committee, the House Appropriations Committee with their security services
as well. But when my mother met with Yasser Arafat
in the late seventies, shared with her that he was
willing to talk with the Israetans. My mother returned to
the United States, she met with her close and dear
friend whom she had the privilege of marching with in
the late sixties, Andrew Young, whom Jimmy Carter had appointed
to the UN Security Council as Ambassador to the United Nations.
During this particular cycle he was President of the Security Council.
He met with my mother and my mother shared with
him her good friend Andy. She said, Andy, listen, you
need to talk to the Palestinians because they're willing to
talk with the Israelis. Andy Young, as President of the
Security Council, clearly within his rights as President of the
Security Council, had a private meeting with Palestinian leadership, and
he was fired by President Jimmy Carter for having that meeting.
And the firing of Andy Young led to a rift
between African Americans and Jewish people. That is a fact
even until this day that the most prominent African American,
the most promising disciple of Martin Luther King Junior, who
would later of course go on to become a Congressman,
and the mayor of Indiana could be fired by the
former I'm sorry, the mayor of Atlanta, by the former
Governor of Georgia in the capacity as President of the
United Nations. And so African Americans have directly and indirectly
been involved in the conflict for eight number of years.
I as a member of Congress to work with Ariel Charon.
I also worked with Benjamin nat in Yahoo. I spent
a significant amount of time in the West Bank with
Saab Erakat as well as other Palestinian leadership at chief
negotiators on behalf of the two state solution. And so
these aren't just policy prescriptions. So these are between I
know myself, but certainly Anaya and p l DA Silva.
We are long standing negotiators for peace in the region.
That isn't just a function of where do you stand
on this? Where do you stand on that? No, we've
been there for forty years and longer. We've been part
of a broad discussion and some of that discussion, of
course here domestically in the United States in the end
would lead to relationship building, growth, and even challenges between
Blacks and Jewish people here in the United States, laying
the foundation for you know, better and broader relationships in
the tradition of Martin Luther King Junior and Abraham and
Abraham Heschel, Rabbi Abraham Heschel who marked with doctor King
in the Deep South. And so there is a kinship
that we have with both the global jewelry in that
we both exited a slave system. Of course, they exited
a faronic slave system. Let my people go, and we
exited a slave system too. Amend the Constitution of the
United States because these states wouldn't let us out of
the peculiar institution of slavery. We share so much in common,
but we also share in the self determination and the
rights of Palestinian people to be able to live free,
to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I
felt compelled to share that little bit of history Ania,
because it is who we are. It is it is
ingrained in who we are. The Palesinian babies and mothers
should not be suffering at this hour. Neil, let me
ask you this question before we before we shut down
our program. We have about six minutes remaining with you
on the program, and we close at the hearts. There's
a hard stop at the thirty. Can you share with
us the hope that you have for Palestinian people in
the next let's say, five minutes.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I think every Palestinian across the globe,
you know, and I'm talking about you know, Palestinians who
are currently in Gaza, Palestinian who are currently in the
West Bank, in Jerusalem, and the refuge camps in Jordan, Lebanon,
and in refugee camps of Syria and in the Aspera. Okay,
we are talking about you know, the refugees, like five
point nine million refugees, Palestinian refugees in in the the Aspera.
Speaker 2: Uh and and and they all, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, of course the numbers is more than that
across the globe. But I think everybody wants peace, They
want self determination. They want also the ability to to
have the freedom to decide for themselves and not anybody
deciding on their behalf.
Speaker 2: I think that's very important.
Speaker 3: And and also you know, like blaming the Palestinian for everything.
Speaker 2: That happened to the Jewish people. This is absolutely ridiculous,
you know what I mean. It's it's not that the
Palestinian are the investigator of what happened to the Jews
during Second World War Two. We all know and we sympathize,
you know, I mean about what happened, and nobody wants
to see another Second World War two happening. And we
don't want to see another you know, genocide happening in
the world.
Speaker 3: And I think what we want is also for us,
you know, I mean to be able to live freely,
return to our homes, be able to rebuild our lives,
or to be you know, some sort of preparation because
you know, like this is not going.
Speaker 2: To go away. You know, these people are not going
to go away.
Speaker 3: We are existing, We are we have a voice, and
we are people of this world. We have the same
rights as everybody. This is part of the You and
Human Rights shorter. We have the right to decide for
ourselves and at the moment, we are not being able
to decide for ourselves, and people are deciding on our
behalf on a daily basis. You know, the peace process,
you know, where is the peace process?
Speaker 2: It's almost dead, Okay, it's almost dead.
Speaker 3: Like the two state solutions, it never been you know,
I mean implemented, and it wasn't because of the Palestinians.
Speaker 2: That wasn't implemented. So I think what we need, you.
Speaker 3: Know, what I mean is really a comprehensive new narrative
of peace and reconciliation. As you have said, Jesse, you know,
we have to come together. There is no like this
is one land that basically has to have the two
people living together.
Speaker 2: There is no other alternatives.
Speaker 3: There is no other alternatives except to have peace over Nonie.
Speaker 1: I think about the I really appreciate. I appreciate what
you said. You know, I think, I think the trauma
between both sides has been so great for so long
and so difficult that I even shared with Prime Minister
not in Yahoo, that I wish there were some way
that students could exchange, be exchanged on both sides of
the border, so that a new generation could enjoy themselves
socially and culturally and engage not in a segregated, across
the fence relationship, but a spiritually integrated relationship. We play
soccer together, baseball together, and.
Speaker 2: Have the same rights, you know, the same right.
Speaker 1: But it may have to start incrementally with a generation
that isn't as hardened as some of the professionals and
some of the older generations that have experienced so much
trauma together. I'm just talking about there's so many things
that my son, when he talks to me at twenty
two years old, I'm like, what are you talking about?
And then he, you know, he calls his friends call
me unk. I'm like, unk, I'm not an old man.
I mean, when when did that?
Speaker 2: When did That's hard?
Speaker 1: So there's like a world that they understand that is
not our own, and I almost don't want to share
with them the mistakes that we've made when they are
a lot less wed to the idea of the way
their parents felt or thought. They've gone to school with
Jewish students, They've gone to school with Palestinians and Arab Americans,
They've they're a lot less hung up on some of
the stuff that our parents are hung up on. And
I wish there were this environment where there were trust
built amongst a generation of people who are willing to
build it in the space, in safe spaces. And I
don't know if that's all all the way possible, but Ane,
I'm so grateful that you spent this hour with us
on the Jesse jack hour and a half with us
on the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and I am glad to be
with you all. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I hope that you'll come back and join us some
other time. Yes, Doctor Hannia, it's been our very special
guest for the last hour and a half. More on
the Jesse Jackson Junior Show. When we come forward on
K Billy Talking, Thank you. I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. Welcome
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and I want to bring that to everyone's attention. Our
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When John Diggles comes onto the program, we're going to
talk about a little bit of that, but a lot
more than that. John has one of the best and
brightest minds in the public relations space bar Nune, and
he's using and maximizing technology to get that done, but
I'm particularly honored in this hour, even though I don't
think she's turned up her microphone and roadcaster. The producer
and creator of the Jesse Jackson Junior self Tina Town's
welcome forward to the show.
Speaker 4: Oh Jesse, Oh Jesse. It's only Wednesday. What am I
doing here?
Speaker 1: I know it's supposed to be fat meat Fridays, but
it can be fat meat. Wednesday's a lot of fat
meat in the last ninety minutes.
Speaker 4: Though, Gina, I understand, Oh my god, there has been sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not completely taken aback by the humanitarian crisis that's
taking place in that part of the world. But under
the Trump regime, there's probably going to be a humanitarian
crisis taking place in almost every country in the world
if he has he has his say, because he's destabilizing,
as doctor Deacoq said, he's to stabilizing all of the
norms in systems, not only in South America, trying to
destabilize Nigeria, threatening Cuba and Colombia. Meeting today with the
Foreign Minister and the Prime Minister of Greenland. And even
though the United States has provided significant security for the
State of Israel, by the way, which the state of
Israel does need, it does need to be secure. There
is now an open discussion about what the President of
the United States is committing himself to do in Iran.
In light of the more than twenty four hundred protesters
who have been killed or murdered by the regime. Many
have suggested that regime change in Iran would have a
profound impact on global stability, particularly in the Middle East,
because Iran is that kind of that kind of terror
state that sponsors terror in other parts of the world,
but also in friendly neighbors to Iran, other Arab countries
in the Middle East. And you know, good riddance. If
the democracy or the form of government that the people
ultimately choose in Iran is up for and by them,
if they're good with it, if they're good with the
preservation of rights for women, if they're good with the
preservation of human rights, good riddens. But the idea that genus,
some kind of ayatolah is over the system and his
religious values are being imposed on everybody, I might find
that deeply troubling. I always have found it deeply troubling.
Speaker 4: I mean one has to wonder, I mean, can I
just get any values people out here. I've been just
dog gone all over the world. People are just all
over the place. It's like little ants that are just
scurrying everywhere, chasing, you know, the next piece of corn bread.
I am lost for words for where the human heart
is to see people welfed, educated, in good health. What
you guys just discussed in the last hour and a
half was actually disgusting to even think about the fact
that in Gods for people who have been displaced and
driven out of their homeland for decades now are suffering
still and no bomb is dropping. It is that there's dysentery.
It is that mothers are believing to death in childbirth,
and that children are starving, and that they are orphans.
It's really unconscionable. And I don't know at which point,
because I did ask the question in the chat, who
is going to speak out? You know, where are the
major news organizations. I think it's lost a little bit
in the news cycle because so many things are happening
around the world. But I do think that we have
to stop and deal with this.
Speaker 1: I you know, two million people. I was shocked by
the number that there are more Palestinians in the global
diaspora than in the Gaza. Strip that she said something
about five and a half million people. So two million
in the Gaza, three and a half million people are
in camps that range from Syria to Lebanon to other
parts of the world. You know, I was thinking about
when I was in elementary school, I had a friend.
I was in the fifth grade, and I remember staying
at a friend. I want to think his name was
Shahari or Shari maybe one of my elementary school classmates too,
listen to the program who call me? Anyway, he lived
in Prairie Shores and I stayed at his home one night,
and I didn't quite understand because again I was in
the fifth grade. Why we were eating around a kind
of pillow and there was lamb and there was rice,
and our legs were folded, and I really appreciated a
cultural experience. And he had on and I know this now,
but I didn't know it then. He had on a
Palestinian scarf. I know this now, but I didn't know
this in the fifth grade. But the reality is his
family were refugees from the conflict in the Middle East.
They were refugees and they were at John Jay Pershing
Elementary School in my fourth and fifth grade class. Before
I left him went to Lahman's Military Academy. And it
occurs to me that's my first interaction with someone who
understood the crisis. And you know, he was very worldly
for his age because he had been through it, and
he was trying to convince me that I didn't truly
understand all that his people were going through. And he
wasn't wrong.
Speaker 5: Uh the fifth grade, I mean, I thought I knew,
you know, we were fighting, we were fighting the powerstand
back in the day in the fifth grade. You don't
know man daily. But it wasn't what he was going through. Absolutely,
it was not that.
Speaker 4: As a child, and some people may remember this, there
was the Bible that people had in their house, the
one that you kept at home. You didn't take it
to the church. It just sat there. And my parents
had one of those, and it had maps that you
pulled out, and I remembered clear Palestine, and I remember
understanding that it was no longer Palestine.
Speaker 1: Isn't that something I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. Listening to Gina Towns.
It's not that meat Fridays. It is wealthy Wednesdays and
I'm so grateful to the create of the Jesse Jackson
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kbl A Talk fifteen eighty. I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. I'm
Jesse Jackson Junior at record of the Jesse Jackson Junior
Show and our regular contributor on Wealthy Wednesdays. Is another
than doctors Todd Yeary. He's just in time to give
us a mini sermon on our way at the top
of the hour, Doctor Yerie, welcome forward to the Jesse
Jackson Junior Show. I think your phone might be muted,
but I think you're here with us now.
Speaker 6: Hey, doctor Yery, I am here with you, just getting
off of an airplane and I figured i'd catch you
so I could do so I could do my mini sermon.
Speaker 1: It's all yours, sir, It's all yours. Behind him, he
knows the routine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's the heavens or it could be
a cloud.
Speaker 6: But but you know, with all that's going on, I
can only imagine what the discussion has been today with
where things are? You know, the real question I think
that confronts us is how do we avoid becoming so
discouraged as to become paralyzed. And this is where I
think we have to remember, uh, not only who we are,
but who our creator is, and that in that intentional
plan to make us uniquely who we are is a
sense of resilience and resistance that is actually just a
part of our spiritual DNA, and probably our actual DNA
too if we were actually look at it. But there's
a there's a passage Paul all Rights in one of
the letters to Thessalonians. There's nothing that happens to us
that is not uncommon to the human experience. Human frailty,
human selfishness, human sensitivity, leaves room for all kinds of
abuses as we see. But we have to remember this
is what your father always told us. You know, God
is faithful. God is faithful, having bid farewell to Claude Covin, who,
in her own unique way, as a teenager, started the momentum.
Speaker 7: God is faithful, and.
Speaker 6: With whatever the challenge might be, God gives us the
ability to not only withstand it, but to outlast it.
Speaker 7: And so we'll come through us.
Speaker 6: Whatever this is, however long it lasts, whatever it takes.
Because we are who we are, and because we are
we are in the end, we're gonna be just fine.
In the meantime, don't be discouraged. Let's stay focused on
the real work that must be done.
Speaker 1: Doctor Earie, I'm amazed at how you go back to
the source of your faith in the midst of an era,
if you will, of discouragement, you go to the well
to seek something that is extraordinary in the spirit realm,
to propel you to look at the day differently, to
look at the weak differently, too, to look at time differently,
and to accept the moment for what it is. But
somewhere in there is this grain of this mustard seed,
this seed of hope, that propels the ministry, that propels
your life, and that propels the work forward to the
extent that you can. Can you share with us the
source of that energy, the source of that of that
of that of that seed that you water that needs nourishment,
that propels what you do forward.
Speaker 7: Well, I'll say it the way I do with all
of my messages.
Speaker 6: I invite people to wherever they are, find a well
lit room, and in that space, find a big, bright, clear,
clean mirror, a bright clear glass. If they have to
look at their reflection and the coffee table glass and
the window pane, and the reflection in the appliance is
the compact in their purse. Wherever they can see themselves,
wherever you can see you appreciate what you see, because
if you take a good look at your reflection, you
will find that there is intimate and intricate detail to
the plan of the Creator to make you uniquely who
you are.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 6: So don't don't just look at the things that appear
to be out of place. Pay attention to the color
and texture of your hair, the smoothness of your skin,
the color and shape of your eyes, the fullness of
your lips, the shape of your nose, all of those
things that make you identifiably and recognizably different than anybody else.
The one thing that I know anyone can do is
to be the most authentic version of themselves, more so
than trying to be a poor impostor of somebody else.
But here's what I also know is that what you
see in your reflection is your appearance. But inside of
you is a spark of the divine that gives you
your essence, the drive that you have for life, the
dreams that you have for your own purpose, the fulfillment
of your destiny. And so if we don't lose sight
of the inner workings, the fire that burns within will
be just fine. And so I check to make sure
that I've got fresh wood on the fire every morning.
Some days it's a little more difficult than others, but
there's got to be a burn, a d and yearning
that allows us to overcome the difficulties of the moment
and make a difference in the world.
Speaker 4: We certainly God has been using you, doctor Earie, to
stretch me in my level of patience, because I was
nervous about you.
Speaker 1: Oh Lord, seriously, but on a serious note.
Speaker 2: That was just so well.
Speaker 4: Stated, eloquent in its expression. But you know that's not
the norm for so many people, because the world tells
us something different when we look into the mirror and
when we try to look within, and then we go
out and face the world. And I think that's the
importance of taking time, as you just talked about, in
the morning, for a reflection of heart as well as
you know, there is the reflection that you see in
the mirror before you leave in the morning, but even
before you go look in that mirror, sometimes you might
need to do some heart reflection. And you know, you
talked about a source, and that source is light and
it is love, and it teaches us. I mean, it's
taken me a long time. It took me forty years
to really be in true acceptance of what I saw
in the mirror or how I felt about myself. And
that is a journey for people, and I pray that
everybody is willing to take it. And through your guidance
and one of the reasons you were a host on
this show, and through Jesse's leadership and Tavis's leadership, you know,
hopefully we're able to guide people there on because all
of us are on the journey.
Speaker 7: It's a real journey.
Speaker 6: But you know, culturally we are conditioned to try to
imitate and emulate. We don't get a lot of training
on how to develop a level of authenticity and confidence
in the incompleteness of who we are. And so many
times we find ourselves frustrated because we're actually living according
to somebody else's agenda. And until we find our sense
of self, until we find confidence in being okay with
taking on, say James Weldon Johnson's Upon the Creation and
reading that and understanding that this great God, like a
mammy swooning over her baby scooped out of the earth.
Right that dirt that gives us our tan, our reflection,
the melanin that flows that the sun activates, that even
in the winter time, we're able to make sure that
we don't lose a sense of not only how we look,
but how we move.
Speaker 7: We've got to.
Speaker 6: Recognize that there's a uniqueness here and if we can
embrace it, even though it is under a it's under
a real attack again. But we have to remember, if
he did it once, he'll do it again. We're gonna
be just fined.
Speaker 4: Gina.
Speaker 1: Some closing thoughts in our minute and thirty seconds that
we have remaining before the top.
Speaker 7: Of the hour.
Speaker 4: Well, first, thank you, doctor Yurie. I know that you
were in the court room today, but we see that
you couldn't get out fast enough and off that air
planting out of the sky fast enough to give us
a word of hope, and so thank you. Certainly this
is a mid week to get us over the hump.
Speaker 7: Glad to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm particularly grateful, doctor Yurie, that you sacrificed. You know,
you didn't have to come today, and we're so grateful
that you did give us this extraordinary time. We count
on that to get us through our weeks, because it's
a long slog. Sometime we start out very spiritually and
bring the week in with none other than Terry horde
Owen's and then we move in the general direction of
Liz King and Tenacious Tuesdays with Barbara Arnweine. But we
need that little shove to get through the rest of
the week from doctor Todd Yery. And I'm so grateful
to call him my friend, our spiritual advisor, advisor and
someone whose contribution to this show continues to guess Distric
Moore and life to all of us. I'm Jesse Jackson Junior.
Listening to Jesse Jackson Junior Show on KBLA Talk fifteen
to eighty. When we come forward, it will be on Thursday.
Our very special guest Johnny Mack will be with us
in the second hour more when we come forward on
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