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Speaker 1: I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson

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Junior Show on KBLA Talk fifteen Haiti. We've been having

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a fascinating conversation about the state of Palestinian people in Dagaza.

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Our very special guest has been a doctor Ania Decock,

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Head of Policy and Laison Unit with the United Nations

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Population Fund Humanitarian Office. Doctor decc provides UNFPA country and

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regional offices with advice on policy coordination and technical support

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related to humanitarian preparedness, emergency response, disaster, risk reduction, recovery

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and resilience. Her goal and role is to advance the

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gender equality, to promote sexual and reproductive health and rights,

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including minstrel health, mental health and psychosocial support for book

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and respond to gender based violence issues in humanitarian settings.

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Doctor Decock, welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Jesse. I'm so glad to be

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with you today.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the first hour we talked about some

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of the difficulties of pregnancies within the Gaza and the

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circumstances under which children are born into the world. Under

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those particular circumstances, I can only imagine that the ability

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to deliver mental health services to women who are struggling

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with difficult pregnancies and the trauma of war itself must

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be its own unique challenge. I can imagine in this

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moment that mental health services are probably the very last

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available services given the urgent need for other critical care

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in the in the maternal process. Doctor de Coca, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Know the reality of the matter.

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Speaker 3: Yes, mental health and psychosocial support has been needed in

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Gaza for many years. There has been a lot of

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work on mental health and psycho social support because of

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you know, this is a generational trauma. This is not

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just yesterday trauma. It's not twenty twenty three trauma. It's

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a trauma since nineteen forty eight going onward.

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Speaker 2: So it's a generational trauma.

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Speaker 3: We talk about it really, you know, like you are

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talking about people who are born in refugee camps and

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you know they have to survive on a daily basis

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and really be able to.

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Speaker 2: Grow and rebuild.

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Speaker 3: And have families. So it's not an easy situation. Currently,

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mental health is number one needed. Plus you know, maternal

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health is very needed. Everything is needed at the moment,

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you know, like you are talking about also, you know,

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bad water and sanitation situation where a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Water born diseases.

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Speaker 3: Are happening and infections because of lack of sanitation, and

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these are the situation that a lot of the children,

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the newborns are facing. You know, if you don't have

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clean water, what are you going? And it's the only

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water that you could have is the seawater. Otherwise, you know,

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there is no other water coming like clean water into Gaza.

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So it's very difficult to like to truly understand that

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when you don't have electricity, you don't have water, you

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don't have you know, university schools, medical health care, attacks

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mentally everybody, you know what I mean. It's like eighty

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percent of mental health issues is daily life issues. If

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you improve the situation, a lot of people could improve.

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But if doesn't happen, then these people are going to

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really suffer.

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Speaker 2: Postraumatic syndrome. You know a lot of children.

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Speaker 3: Then sleep, you know, they have nightmares, bedwetting, you know,

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you name it. A lot of women have you know

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a lot of depressions that we are dealing with a

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lot of stress and depression and so a lot of

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people are suffering. Elderly there is a lot of children

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who have been an accompanied at the moment because their

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family members have died and there's nobody else to take

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care of them.

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Speaker 2: Plus they might be also injured on top of that.

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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, this is not the first

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time that there is you know, these type of attacks.

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Twenty eighteen, there was you know, another one in two

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thousand and nine, there was several of these type of

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situations where Gaza was attacked and people were bombed in

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their houses and many families actually have have just been

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whipped out of the Silver history. They are not there

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anymore because they have just died. You know, we are

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talking about more than seventy one thousand that have died

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like because of the war, but we are not talking

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about the numbers that are dying because of the unhealthy

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conditions that they are living in. So that's another thing

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that we really need to understand that, you know, people

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are dying also from infections, people are dying from hypothermia,

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Speaker 2: Are living in.

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Speaker 3: So you are not talking about only the seventy one

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thousand that were wounded and died, you know, like the

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seventy one died because of you know, shrapnels, bombs and

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all of that. But we also are talking about people

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who are dying because there is no medical care available

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at the moment.

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Speaker 1: To that, I know that we're going to be coming

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forward in about thirty seconds. And so that's that's how

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we saying that we have a break here on Kibi

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only top fifteen to eighty. But who speaks for the

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people of the Gaza.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's again, you know what I mean, nobody is

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listening to the people of Gaza. The people of Gaza

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who basically were on social media, you know what, they

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were speaking about what is happening to them on a

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daily basis. The UN is speaking about what is happening

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on a daily basis. The civil society, you know, the

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international civil society, who have been witnessing, who have actually

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been on the ground in Gaza. They are witnessing and

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they are talking about what is happening to the Gaza people.

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I think the UN has spoken so many times about

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the situation in Gaza, but nobody is listening at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Also, Israel has spared.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the you like, not only the you

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An agency, but the International Jeels also from non governmental organization.

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Speaker 1: Doctor we come forward will have more discussions on editions

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of the Palestindians in the Gaza and in the West Bank.

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I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Listen Jesse Jackson Junior Show on

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Cabulity Talk fifteen eighty more when we come forward. Jesse

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Jackson Junior. Welcome Ford to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.

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Before joining the United Nations, doctor Ania Decock in June

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of two thousand and four was the Director of Relief

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and Development Programs with International Medical Corps. She managed and

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developed technical aspect of service delivery programming to improve quality

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of care within IMC global programs and relief and development

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settings throughout Africa, Central Asia, the Middle East, Southeast Asia.

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She's also worked as technical advisor for the Reproductive Health

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in Conflict Consort. Doctor Deacock, Welcome forward to the Jesse

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Jackson Juniors. Will thank you, Jesse, and I know that

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we're in a little bit of a challenge with the

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siren that's in the background. I can understand that.

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Speaker 2: New York.

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Speaker 1: So I did want to ask you and this is

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our final segment, and I'm so grateful that you were

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able to stay with us from from your perspective, other

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than the United Nations, are there other partners around the

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world that are stepping up to address the humanitarian crisis

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that exists in the Gaza and in the West Bank?

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there are a lot of international non governmental organization

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that has worked in Palestine, in Gaza, West Bank and

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Isjerus and for many.

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Speaker 2: Years, for many decades. I can name few of them.

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Speaker 3: Care International International Rescue Committee, International Medical Core Project, Hope,

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you know, there are OXFAM.

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Speaker 2: Catholic Relief Services. All of them are you know, are

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part and.

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Speaker 3: Parcel of the international community that existed and still exists

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in Palestine. Although recently, you know, there was an order

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to really uh not provide authorization for international uh non

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governmental organization to work in in in Palestine, in the

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West Bank and in Gaza and is Jerusalem. So this

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is something that was you know, like sort of a

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band of international organization from really working and supporting the

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Palestinian community to really survive the situation that they are

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living under at the moment. So it's very important that

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the international community continued to be present, especially like the

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non governmental organization to be present and be able to

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see what's going on and be also the eyes and

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ears for the Palestinian people well in Galza, West Bank

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and Jerusalem. So and it's Jerusalem. These are still you know,

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is Jerusalem. Although it was annex by by Israel, it's

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still you know, I mean, not considered an Israeli territory

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by international community. It's still contested area and never like

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the issue of Jerusalem, have never been resolved at all.

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Speaker 2: So I think this is very very.

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Speaker 3: Important issue that still people don't you know, understand that

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there are a Palestinian community in Jerusalem that has at

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the moment not a lot of support also from the

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international community, if these organizations stop being there and active

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in providing support. So I think we need the international

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community to continue being in Galza, West Bank and Jerusalem.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to take this opportunity to shared just a

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little bit of my family's history in this conflict. My

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mother was a close and dear friend of the late

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Anhwar Sadata, the late president of Egypt, and even when

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I was a member of Congress, I spent number of

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trips meeting with Hosny and Mubarak. The success to anwar

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Sadat in Egypt and worked very closely with the Foreign

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Operations Committee, the House Appropriations Committee with their security services

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as well. But when my mother met with Yasser Arafat

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in the late seventies, shared with her that he was

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willing to talk with the Israetans. My mother returned to

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the United States, she met with her close and dear

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friend whom she had the privilege of marching with in

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the late sixties, Andrew Young, whom Jimmy Carter had appointed

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to the UN Security Council as Ambassador to the United Nations.

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During this particular cycle he was President of the Security Council.

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He met with my mother and my mother shared with

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him her good friend Andy. She said, Andy, listen, you

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need to talk to the Palestinians because they're willing to

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talk with the Israelis. Andy Young, as President of the

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Security Council, clearly within his rights as President of the

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Security Council, had a private meeting with Palestinian leadership, and

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he was fired by President Jimmy Carter for having that meeting.

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And the firing of Andy Young led to a rift

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between African Americans and Jewish people. That is a fact

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even until this day that the most prominent African American,

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the most promising disciple of Martin Luther King Junior, who

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would later of course go on to become a Congressman,

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and the mayor of Indiana could be fired by the

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former I'm sorry, the mayor of Atlanta, by the former

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Governor of Georgia in the capacity as President of the

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United Nations. And so African Americans have directly and indirectly

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been involved in the conflict for eight number of years.

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I as a member of Congress to work with Ariel Charon.

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I also worked with Benjamin nat in Yahoo. I spent

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a significant amount of time in the West Bank with

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Saab Erakat as well as other Palestinian leadership at chief

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negotiators on behalf of the two state solution. And so

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these aren't just policy prescriptions. So these are between I

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know myself, but certainly Anaya and p l DA Silva.

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We are long standing negotiators for peace in the region.

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That isn't just a function of where do you stand

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on this? Where do you stand on that? No, we've

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been there for forty years and longer. We've been part

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of a broad discussion and some of that discussion, of

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course here domestically in the United States in the end

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would lead to relationship building, growth, and even challenges between

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Blacks and Jewish people here in the United States, laying

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the foundation for you know, better and broader relationships in

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the tradition of Martin Luther King Junior and Abraham and

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Abraham Heschel, Rabbi Abraham Heschel who marked with doctor King

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in the Deep South. And so there is a kinship

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that we have with both the global jewelry in that

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we both exited a slave system. Of course, they exited

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a faronic slave system. Let my people go, and we

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exited a slave system too. Amend the Constitution of the

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United States because these states wouldn't let us out of

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the peculiar institution of slavery. We share so much in common,

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but we also share in the self determination and the

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rights of Palestinian people to be able to live free,

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to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I

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felt compelled to share that little bit of history Ania,

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because it is who we are. It is it is

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ingrained in who we are. The Palesinian babies and mothers

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should not be suffering at this hour. Neil, let me

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ask you this question before we before we shut down

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our program. We have about six minutes remaining with you

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on the program, and we close at the hearts. There's

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a hard stop at the thirty. Can you share with

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us the hope that you have for Palestinian people in

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the next let's say, five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know, I think every Palestinian across the globe,

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are currently in Gaza, Palestinian who are currently in the

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West Bank, in Jerusalem, and the refuge camps in Jordan, Lebanon,

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and in refugee camps of Syria and in the Aspera. Okay,

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we are talking about you know, the refugees, like five

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point nine million refugees, Palestinian refugees in in the the Aspera.

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Speaker 2: Uh and and and they all, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, of course the numbers is more than that

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across the globe. But I think everybody wants peace, They

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want self determination. They want also the ability to to

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have the freedom to decide for themselves and not anybody

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deciding on their behalf.

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Speaker 2: I think that's very important.

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Speaker 3: And and also you know, like blaming the Palestinian for everything.

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Speaker 2: That happened to the Jewish people. This is absolutely ridiculous,

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you know what I mean. It's it's not that the

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Palestinian are the investigator of what happened to the Jews

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during Second World War Two. We all know and we sympathize,

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you know, I mean about what happened, and nobody wants

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to see another Second World War two happening. And we

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don't want to see another you know, genocide happening in

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the world.

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Speaker 3: And I think what we want is also for us,

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you know, I mean to be able to live freely,

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return to our homes, be able to rebuild our lives,

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or to be you know, some sort of preparation because

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you know, like this is not going.

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Speaker 2: To go away. You know, these people are not going

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to go away.

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Speaker 3: We are existing, We are we have a voice, and

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we are people of this world. We have the same

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rights as everybody. This is part of the You and

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Human Rights shorter. We have the right to decide for

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ourselves and at the moment, we are not being able

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to decide for ourselves, and people are deciding on our

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behalf on a daily basis. You know, the peace process,

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you know, where is the peace process?

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Speaker 2: It's almost dead, Okay, it's almost dead.

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Speaker 3: Like the two state solutions, it never been you know,

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I mean implemented, and it wasn't because of the Palestinians.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't implemented. So I think what we need, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, what I mean is really a comprehensive new narrative

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of peace and reconciliation. As you have said, Jesse, you know,

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we have to come together. There is no like this

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is one land that basically has to have the two

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people living together.

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Speaker 2: There is no other alternatives.

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Speaker 3: There is no other alternatives except to have peace over Nonie.

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Speaker 1: I think about the I really appreciate. I appreciate what

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you said. You know, I think, I think the trauma

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between both sides has been so great for so long

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and so difficult that I even shared with Prime Minister

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not in Yahoo, that I wish there were some way

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that students could exchange, be exchanged on both sides of

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the border, so that a new generation could enjoy themselves

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socially and culturally and engage not in a segregated, across

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the fence relationship, but a spiritually integrated relationship. We play

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soccer together, baseball together, and.

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Speaker 2: Have the same rights, you know, the same right.

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Speaker 1: But it may have to start incrementally with a generation

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that isn't as hardened as some of the professionals and

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some of the older generations that have experienced so much

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trauma together. I'm just talking about there's so many things

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that my son, when he talks to me at twenty

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two years old, I'm like, what are you talking about?

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And then he, you know, he calls his friends call

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me unk. I'm like, unk, I'm not an old man.

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I mean, when when did that?

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Speaker 2: When did That's hard?

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Speaker 1: So there's like a world that they understand that is

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not our own, and I almost don't want to share

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with them the mistakes that we've made when they are

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a lot less wed to the idea of the way

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their parents felt or thought. They've gone to school with

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Jewish students, They've gone to school with Palestinians and Arab Americans,

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They've they're a lot less hung up on some of

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the stuff that our parents are hung up on. And

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I wish there were this environment where there were trust

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built amongst a generation of people who are willing to

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build it in the space, in safe spaces. And I

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don't know if that's all all the way possible, but Ane,

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I'm so grateful that you spent this hour with us

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on the Jesse jack hour and a half with us

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on the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, and I am glad to be

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with you all. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I hope that you'll come back and join us some

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other time. Yes, Doctor Hannia, it's been our very special

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guest for the last hour and a half. More on

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the Jesse Jackson Junior Show. When we come forward on

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K Billy Talking, Thank you. I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. Welcome

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forward to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show. It's Wealthy Wednesdays

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on the Jesse Jackson Junior Show. And before I bring

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up our next guest. In case you're wondering why your

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text messages are not working, it's because Verizon is out

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over large parts of the country. That's why your text

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messages are coming back. That's why your cell phone may

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not be working. And you might be asking yourself, did

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they receive my check or did they pay the bill

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or did they withdraw the money from my account? No,

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they bound And that's that's like to leave us naked

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in the wintertime because we can't text, we can't call,

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can't see what's going on in the world, including our

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live news programming, and so I want to let you

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know that's exactly what's happening with your phone. Verizon is

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having a kind of power or system outage at this hour,

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and I want to bring that to everyone's attention. Our

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very special guest in this hour is Mike Worldwide pr

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alum John Diggles, who serves as CEO and founder of

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ash Shint Strategies. He's not here yet, but when he

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does come, he will have already been introduced providing services

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in digital transformation, corporate storytelling, employer brand strategy, marketing, or

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clinical research and return on investment measurement. The agency's IP

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uses proprietary communications algorithms combining online community insights with medical

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professionals perspectives, patient observations, and market data to promote adoption telemedicine,

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remote patient monitoring, and healthcare artificial intelligence, among other offerings.

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When John Diggles comes onto the program, we're going to

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talk about a little bit of that, but a lot

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more than that. John has one of the best and

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brightest minds in the public relations space bar Nune, and

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he's using and maximizing technology to get that done, but

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I'm particularly honored in this hour, even though I don't

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think she's turned up her microphone and roadcaster. The producer

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and creator of the Jesse Jackson Junior self Tina Town's

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welcome forward to the show.

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Speaker 4: Oh Jesse, Oh Jesse. It's only Wednesday. What am I

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doing here?

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Speaker 1: I know it's supposed to be fat meat Fridays, but

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it can be fat meat. Wednesday's a lot of fat

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meat in the last ninety minutes.

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Speaker 4: Though, Gina, I understand, Oh my god, there has been sure.

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Speaker 1: I'm not completely taken aback by the humanitarian crisis that's

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taking place in that part of the world. But under

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the Trump regime, there's probably going to be a humanitarian

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crisis taking place in almost every country in the world

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if he has he has his say, because he's destabilizing,

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as doctor Deacoq said, he's to stabilizing all of the

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norms in systems, not only in South America, trying to

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destabilize Nigeria, threatening Cuba and Colombia. Meeting today with the

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Foreign Minister and the Prime Minister of Greenland. And even

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though the United States has provided significant security for the

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State of Israel, by the way, which the state of

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Israel does need, it does need to be secure. There

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is now an open discussion about what the President of

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the United States is committing himself to do in Iran.

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In light of the more than twenty four hundred protesters

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who have been killed or murdered by the regime. Many

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have suggested that regime change in Iran would have a

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profound impact on global stability, particularly in the Middle East,

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because Iran is that kind of that kind of terror

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state that sponsors terror in other parts of the world,

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but also in friendly neighbors to Iran, other Arab countries

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in the Middle East. And you know, good riddance. If

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the democracy or the form of government that the people

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ultimately choose in Iran is up for and by them,

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if they're good with it, if they're good with the

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preservation of rights for women, if they're good with the

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preservation of human rights, good riddens. But the idea that genus,

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some kind of ayatolah is over the system and his

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religious values are being imposed on everybody, I might find

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that deeply troubling. I always have found it deeply troubling.

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Speaker 4: I mean one has to wonder, I mean, can I

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just get any values people out here. I've been just

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dog gone all over the world. People are just all

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over the place. It's like little ants that are just

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scurrying everywhere, chasing, you know, the next piece of corn bread.

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I am lost for words for where the human heart

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is to see people welfed, educated, in good health. What

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you guys just discussed in the last hour and a

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half was actually disgusting to even think about the fact

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that in Gods for people who have been displaced and

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driven out of their homeland for decades now are suffering

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still and no bomb is dropping. It is that there's dysentery.

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and that children are starving, and that they are orphans.

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It's really unconscionable. And I don't know at which point,

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because I did ask the question in the chat, who

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is going to speak out? You know, where are the

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major news organizations. I think it's lost a little bit

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in the news cycle because so many things are happening

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around the world. But I do think that we have

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to stop and deal with this.

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Speaker 1: I you know, two million people. I was shocked by

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the number that there are more Palestinians in the global

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diaspora than in the Gaza. Strip that she said something

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about five and a half million people. So two million

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in the Gaza, three and a half million people are

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in camps that range from Syria to Lebanon to other

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parts of the world. You know, I was thinking about

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when I was in elementary school, I had a friend.

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I was in the fifth grade, and I remember staying

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at a friend. I want to think his name was

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Shahari or Shari maybe one of my elementary school classmates too,

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listen to the program who call me? Anyway, he lived

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in Prairie Shores and I stayed at his home one night,

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and I didn't quite understand because again I was in

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the fifth grade. Why we were eating around a kind

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of pillow and there was lamb and there was rice,

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and our legs were folded, and I really appreciated a

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cultural experience. And he had on and I know this now,

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but I didn't know it then. He had on a

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Palestinian scarf. I know this now, but I didn't know

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this in the fifth grade. But the reality is his

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family were refugees from the conflict in the Middle East.

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They were refugees and they were at John Jay Pershing

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Elementary School in my fourth and fifth grade class. Before

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I left him went to Lahman's Military Academy. And it

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occurs to me that's my first interaction with someone who

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understood the crisis. And you know, he was very worldly

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for his age because he had been through it, and

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he was trying to convince me that I didn't truly

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understand all that his people were going through. And he

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wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 5: Uh the fifth grade, I mean, I thought I knew,

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you know, we were fighting, we were fighting the powerstand

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back in the day in the fifth grade. You don't

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know man daily. But it wasn't what he was going through. Absolutely,

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it was not that.

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Speaker 4: As a child, and some people may remember this, there

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was the Bible that people had in their house, the

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one that you kept at home. You didn't take it

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to the church. It just sat there. And my parents

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had one of those, and it had maps that you

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pulled out, and I remembered clear Palestine, and I remember

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understanding that it was no longer Palestine.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that something I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. Listening to Gina Towns.

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It's not that meat Fridays. It is wealthy Wednesdays and

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I'm so grateful to the create of the Jesse Jackson

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Junior Show. Joining us more when we come forward on

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kbl A Talk fifteen eighty. I'm Jesse Jackson Jr. I'm

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Jesse Jackson Junior at record of the Jesse Jackson Junior

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Show and our regular contributor on Wealthy Wednesdays. Is another

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than doctors Todd Yeary. He's just in time to give

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us a mini sermon on our way at the top

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of the hour, Doctor Yerie, welcome forward to the Jesse

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Jackson Junior Show. I think your phone might be muted,

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but I think you're here with us now.

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Speaker 6: Hey, doctor Yery, I am here with you, just getting

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off of an airplane and I figured i'd catch you

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so I could do so I could do my mini sermon.

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Speaker 1: It's all yours, sir, It's all yours. Behind him, he

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knows the routine.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's the heavens or it could be

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a cloud.

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Speaker 6: But but you know, with all that's going on, I

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can only imagine what the discussion has been today with

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where things are? You know, the real question I think

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that confronts us is how do we avoid becoming so

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discouraged as to become paralyzed. And this is where I

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think we have to remember, uh, not only who we are,

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but who our creator is, and that in that intentional

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plan to make us uniquely who we are is a

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sense of resilience and resistance that is actually just a

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part of our spiritual DNA, and probably our actual DNA

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too if we were actually look at it. But there's

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a there's a passage Paul all Rights in one of

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the letters to Thessalonians. There's nothing that happens to us

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that is not uncommon to the human experience. Human frailty,

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human selfishness, human sensitivity, leaves room for all kinds of

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abuses as we see. But we have to remember this

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is what your father always told us. You know, God

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is faithful. God is faithful, having bid farewell to Claude Covin, who,

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in her own unique way, as a teenager, started the momentum.

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Speaker 7: God is faithful, and.

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Speaker 6: With whatever the challenge might be, God gives us the

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ability to not only withstand it, but to outlast it.

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Speaker 7: And so we'll come through us.

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Speaker 6: Whatever this is, however long it lasts, whatever it takes.

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Because we are who we are, and because we are

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we are in the end, we're gonna be just fine.

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In the meantime, don't be discouraged. Let's stay focused on

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the real work that must be done.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Earie, I'm amazed at how you go back to

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the source of your faith in the midst of an era,

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if you will, of discouragement, you go to the well

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to seek something that is extraordinary in the spirit realm,

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to propel you to look at the day differently, to

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look at the weak differently, too, to look at time differently,

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and to accept the moment for what it is. But

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somewhere in there is this grain of this mustard seed,

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this seed of hope, that propels the ministry, that propels

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your life, and that propels the work forward to the

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extent that you can. Can you share with us the

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source of that energy, the source of that of that

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of that of that seed that you water that needs nourishment,

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that propels what you do forward.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'll say it the way I do with all

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of my messages.

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Speaker 6: I invite people to wherever they are, find a well

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lit room, and in that space, find a big, bright, clear,

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clean mirror, a bright clear glass. If they have to

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look at their reflection and the coffee table glass and

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the window pane, and the reflection in the appliance is

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the compact in their purse. Wherever they can see themselves,

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wherever you can see you appreciate what you see, because

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if you take a good look at your reflection, you

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will find that there is intimate and intricate detail to

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the plan of the Creator to make you uniquely who

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you are.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: So don't don't just look at the things that appear

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to be out of place. Pay attention to the color

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and texture of your hair, the smoothness of your skin,

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the color and shape of your eyes, the fullness of

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your lips, the shape of your nose, all of those

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things that make you identifiably and recognizably different than anybody else.

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The one thing that I know anyone can do is

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to be the most authentic version of themselves, more so

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than trying to be a poor impostor of somebody else.

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But here's what I also know is that what you

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see in your reflection is your appearance. But inside of

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you is a spark of the divine that gives you

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your essence, the drive that you have for life, the

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dreams that you have for your own purpose, the fulfillment

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of your destiny. And so if we don't lose sight

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of the inner workings, the fire that burns within will

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be just fine. And so I check to make sure

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that I've got fresh wood on the fire every morning.

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Some days it's a little more difficult than others, but

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there's got to be a burn, a d and yearning

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that allows us to overcome the difficulties of the moment

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and make a difference in the world.

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Speaker 4: We certainly God has been using you, doctor Earie, to

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stretch me in my level of patience, because I was

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nervous about you.

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Speaker 1: Oh Lord, seriously, but on a serious note.

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Speaker 2: That was just so well.

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Speaker 4: Stated, eloquent in its expression. But you know that's not

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the norm for so many people, because the world tells

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us something different when we look into the mirror and

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when we try to look within, and then we go

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out and face the world. And I think that's the

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importance of taking time, as you just talked about, in

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the morning, for a reflection of heart as well as

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you know, there is the reflection that you see in

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the mirror before you leave in the morning, but even

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before you go look in that mirror, sometimes you might

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need to do some heart reflection. And you know, you

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talked about a source, and that source is light and

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it is love, and it teaches us. I mean, it's

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taken me a long time. It took me forty years

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to really be in true acceptance of what I saw

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in the mirror or how I felt about myself. And

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that is a journey for people, and I pray that

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everybody is willing to take it. And through your guidance

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and one of the reasons you were a host on

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this show, and through Jesse's leadership and Tavis's leadership, you know,

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hopefully we're able to guide people there on because all

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of us are on the journey.

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Speaker 7: It's a real journey.

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Speaker 6: But you know, culturally we are conditioned to try to

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imitate and emulate. We don't get a lot of training

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on how to develop a level of authenticity and confidence

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in the incompleteness of who we are. And so many

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times we find ourselves frustrated because we're actually living according

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to somebody else's agenda. And until we find our sense

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of self, until we find confidence in being okay with

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taking on, say James Weldon Johnson's Upon the Creation and

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reading that and understanding that this great God, like a

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mammy swooning over her baby scooped out of the earth.

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Right that dirt that gives us our tan, our reflection,

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the melanin that flows that the sun activates, that even

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in the winter time, we're able to make sure that

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we don't lose a sense of not only how we look,

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but how we move.

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Speaker 7: We've got to.

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Speaker 6: Recognize that there's a uniqueness here and if we can

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embrace it, even though it is under a it's under

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a real attack again. But we have to remember, if

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he did it once, he'll do it again. We're gonna

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be just fined.

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Speaker 4: Gina.

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Speaker 1: Some closing thoughts in our minute and thirty seconds that

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we have remaining before the top.

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Speaker 7: Of the hour.

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Speaker 4: Well, first, thank you, doctor Yurie. I know that you

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were in the court room today, but we see that

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you couldn't get out fast enough and off that air

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planting out of the sky fast enough to give us

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a word of hope, and so thank you. Certainly this

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is a mid week to get us over the hump.

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Speaker 7: Glad to do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm particularly grateful, doctor Yurie, that you sacrificed. You know,

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you didn't have to come today, and we're so grateful

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that you did give us this extraordinary time. We count

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on that to get us through our weeks, because it's

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a long slog. Sometime we start out very spiritually and

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bring the week in with none other than Terry horde

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Owen's and then we move in the general direction of

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Liz King and Tenacious Tuesdays with Barbara Arnweine. But we

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need that little shove to get through the rest of

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the week from doctor Todd Yery. And I'm so grateful

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to call him my friend, our spiritual advisor, advisor and

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someone whose contribution to this show continues to guess Distric

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Moore and life to all of us. I'm Jesse Jackson Junior.

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Listening to Jesse Jackson Junior Show on KBLA Talk fifteen

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to eighty. When we come forward, it will be on Thursday.

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Our very special guest Johnny Mack will be with us

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in the second hour more when we come forward on

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KBLA Talk fifteen eighty