Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, welcome back to Mountain Murders midweek and happens
Speaker 1: to be the middle of July.
Speaker 2: I'm Heather and I'm Dalan.
Speaker 1: Hey, Dylan, Hey girl, what's up? I am so excited
Speaker 1: to be back on the podcast talking to our listeners.
Speaker 2: I see that your assignment is contagious. Yeah. Yeah, everybody's
Speaker 2: gonna be wearing a mask before long, a mask. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because your assignments spreading.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh I thought you were gonna make a
Speaker 1: joke about the poop parasite. Oh no, we got half
Speaker 1: the country feel a little shitty out there.
Speaker 2: Look, if any of our listeners have been subjected to
Speaker 2: any of them or any member of their family to this,
Speaker 2: uh this pooh bug, let us know what's happening and
Speaker 2: let us know what to avoid. Hit us up a
Speaker 2: Mountains Taco Bell podcast.
Speaker 1: Taco Bell seems to be the word of the day.
Speaker 1: Don't eat at Taco Bell.
Speaker 2: See. When I heard that, my first question was, how
Speaker 2: could you tell that it's a poop parasite, because that's
Speaker 2: just what Taco Bell does period.
Speaker 1: Well, from my point of view, how would I know
Speaker 1: if I have a poop parasite? Because I suffer from
Speaker 1: my bs. So everything makes me sick now every day
Speaker 1: of my life.
Speaker 2: I feel like the victims of this parasite would say, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, because yeah, the words explosive, oh, uncontrollable.
Speaker 1: Never good, no, never, never pleasurable. When you hear uncontrollable
Speaker 1: and explosive in the same sentence.
Speaker 2: Unless you're describing my love for Heather, it's.
Speaker 1: It's uncontrollable and explosive, that's right.
Speaker 2: Oh makes me blow up with love.
Speaker 1: You know you're so romantic. The other night you leaned
Speaker 1: in and you said, baby, you smell like cigarettes. Smoke
Speaker 1: it from the dive bar, And that was just one
Speaker 1: of the most romantic things you've ever said to me. True,
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I did smell like stings. You don't smoke cigarettes, but
Speaker 2: we have some, We have some good friends.
Speaker 1: Everyone smokes.
Speaker 2: Everybody in that bar.
Speaker 1: Well, just in my orbit, everyone yes.
Speaker 2: But in this bar, everyone chained smokes. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a certainly dive bar behavior, almost lighting one cigarette off
Speaker 2: of the butt of another one, and poor Heather would
Speaker 2: be right there in the mix, and a cigarette smoke
Speaker 2: actually gets to her. I found this out very quickly
Speaker 2: when we first got together. When I used to smoke
Speaker 2: way more.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of allergies.
Speaker 2: You couldn't even like light one in the car and
Speaker 2: like it's going out the window. It still gets to her,
Speaker 2: but she goes anyway.
Speaker 1: You know, you would think I would be immune to
Speaker 1: cigarette smoke because my nana, one of my nana's, my
Speaker 1: nana Dorothy, was a chain smoker. And so you know,
Speaker 1: back in the eighties, she would smoke with the windows
Speaker 1: up in the car. She'd be blowing smoke in all
Speaker 1: the grim baby's faces.
Speaker 2: Right, she's talking to him.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I've grown up around a lot of smoke.
Speaker 1: She would blow that Winston smoke in my face.
Speaker 2: But hey, that's pure smoke.
Speaker 1: But my allergies have never seemed to a to the
Speaker 1: cigarette smoke.
Speaker 2: That Winston smoke's an American classic.
Speaker 1: How you think I got that Winston racing Beach Town, Dylan,
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, We have a lot to talk
Speaker 1: about today. The world is going crazy. Not only are
Speaker 1: people explosively shitting everywhere, but there's.
Speaker 2: Always crime, Dylan, tell me about it.
Speaker 1: Two men were taken into custody after a fight over
Speaker 1: an Apple watch outside of Burger King in Tennessee, Okay,
Speaker 1: Twenty five year old Dale Towns has been charged with
Speaker 1: attempted second degree murder and employing a firearm during the
Speaker 1: commission of a felony. Thirty year old Trevor Young was
Speaker 1: charged with aggravated assault and accessory after the fact. Melymphus Memphis.
Speaker 1: I don't know where I got Melymphus from. Memphis Police
Speaker 1: responded to a shooting call at a Burger King on
Speaker 1: Poplar Avenue just before six point thirty pm on July fourteenth,
Speaker 1: and found a man suffering from a gunshot wound. Off
Speaker 1: spoke with a victim's son, who allegedly said townshend Young
Speaker 1: arrived at the fast food joint in a white pickup
Speaker 1: truck and confronted him in the parking lot about stealing
Speaker 1: an apple watch. He said the two men began fighting
Speaker 1: him and this led to a shooting. The son ran
Speaker 1: inside the burger King to get his father, who went
Speaker 1: outside to intervene. A witness told police that the suspects
Speaker 1: began to aggressively assault the sun and uh yeah, so
Speaker 1: all over an apple watch.
Speaker 2: Well, that's just a dumb reason to be fighting anyone.
Speaker 1: You can't even you're not even safe with the Burger King.
Speaker 1: You can't even go get yourself one of those tiny, tiny,
Speaker 1: little Whopper Juniors. They are so small.
Speaker 2: Now, I got a Whopper Junior. May have already mentioned
Speaker 2: this after gosh years of not getting a Whopper Junior.
Speaker 2: And he used to be my go to when I
Speaker 2: was wanted a little taste of a burger, but I
Speaker 2: did want so big honkin burger. You get a Whopper
Speaker 2: Junior a little medium fry and you're happy, right, This
Speaker 2: damn thing was the size of a biscuit. Literally, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you make a hamburger that small. Seriously,
Speaker 2: it was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very tiny these days. It's almost like a
Speaker 1: Whopper Junior biscuit.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing at Wendy's, right. You know, you
Speaker 2: used to get the Little Junior Bacon Cheeseburger, the Little
Speaker 2: Junior Bacon Cheeseburger Deluxe. It was a great little, you know,
Speaker 2: burger bite. You know, tasted pretty good, nice little snack
Speaker 2: on the ghost snack. And they're tiny anyway, they're tiny
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Dylan, we have a Florida woman's story.
Speaker 2: Oh no, one second, now, I said, that's ridiculous thing
Speaker 2: to be fighting over but gosh, don't Apple watches costs
Speaker 2: like hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 1: That's crazy people be fighting over anything.
Speaker 2: We still don't need to shoot anyone.
Speaker 1: No, if someone has stolen your watch, do the reasonable thing.
Speaker 1: Fill a police report.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, say they got Yeah, that's all you can do. Right,
Speaker 2: You have to work inside the system, because now this
Speaker 2: is as wrong as it is for someone to steal
Speaker 2: your property. Now you're probably on video shooting someone in
Speaker 2: a burger King parking lot, and now would say that
Speaker 2: that is certainly an escalation of events.
Speaker 1: Look, I want to get back to the days when
Speaker 1: you were just getting busy in a burger King bathroom.
Speaker 2: Oh ew like sexually.
Speaker 1: The Humpty dance. Oh okay, okay, apparently you don't know
Speaker 1: old song lyrics.
Speaker 2: Okay, move on, I'm about to eat these chip.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get back to this.
Speaker 2: Got my bowl of chips.
Speaker 1: A Florida woman, Surprisingly, it's not a Florida man today.
Speaker 1: It's a Florida woman is facing criminal charges after allegedly
Speaker 1: stabbing her friend with scissors after he told her she
Speaker 1: couldn't drink beer in an uber.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the uber driver said, you can't drink the.
Speaker 1: Friend, Hey, you cannot drink beer in.
Speaker 2: The super so she attacked him with scissors?
Speaker 1: Right so. Thirty two year old Lynn Marie Zamora was
Speaker 1: arrested on Monday, July thirteenth and charged with aggravated battery
Speaker 1: with a deadly weapon.
Speaker 2: Why is she just going around with scissors?
Speaker 1: Bro The incident unfolded that night when a deputy with
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Office the Miami Day Sheriff's Office was called
Speaker 1: to Southwest one thirty seventh Avenue in Southwest seventy fourth
Speaker 1: Street in Miami, where the victim said Zamora became irritated
Speaker 1: with him because she wanted to drink a beer in
Speaker 1: an Uber they were taking to a friend's house. After
Speaker 1: telling Zamora several times that she could not drink alcohol
Speaker 1: in the ride share vehicle, she took out a pair
Speaker 1: of scissors from her purse and stabbed this friend in
Speaker 1: the left bicep and left calve, breaking the skin. According
Speaker 1: to the affidavit, damn. He was taken to a local
Speaker 1: hospital where he was treated for injuries. The uber driver
Speaker 1: confirmed what had allegedly happened in the vehicle, and Uber's
Speaker 1: community guidelines state that drug use and open containers of
Speaker 1: alcohol are never allowed while using the Uber marketplace platform.
Speaker 1: Ride sharers are writers using the ride shares are instructed
Speaker 1: to never bring illegal drugs or open containers of alcohol
Speaker 1: into a car.
Speaker 2: Well, of course they are. I mean, somebody shouldn't even
Speaker 2: have to outline that for you, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just simple common respect.
Speaker 1: This woman was arrested. She's being held on a seventy
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars bond. She appeared in court where her
Speaker 1: defense attorney asked that she'd be given hospital treatment. The prosecutor, however,
Speaker 1: said this woman was a flight risk with a criminal.
Speaker 2: Record, so no, no bond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, people's nuts.
Speaker 2: Look, you stabbed me with some scissors. Do I'm gonna
Speaker 2: hit you square in your face. I don't care who
Speaker 2: you are. I'm gonna be Okay. Everyone out there before warned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand what was happening in the world today.
Speaker 1: A seventy nine year old man has been arrested in
Speaker 1: connection with a nineteen eighty one cold case. And now, Dylan,
Speaker 1: we know how much I love a cold case solved.
Speaker 2: She likes it when the cold case heats up.
Speaker 1: I love it when a cold case gets solved. So
Speaker 1: on Thursday, July sixteenth, the Grapevine Police Department confirmed that
Speaker 1: an arrest had been made in connection with a homicide
Speaker 1: investigation dating back to nineteen eighty one. Larry Dean Brown
Speaker 1: was booked in the Terrant County Correction Center on charge
Speaker 1: of murder intentionally causing death after being extradited from Colorado.
Speaker 1: The arrest was made in connection with the death of
Speaker 1: thirty five year old Beverly Brunew on February thirteenth of
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one. Brunew's boyfriend returned home from work to
Speaker 1: find her dead on the living room floor, an electrical
Speaker 1: cord wrapped around her neck. She had blood on her face.
Speaker 1: Investigators at the time said the home showed signs of
Speaker 1: a struggle and noted that Brunew had suffered multiple injuries.
Speaker 1: It was later ruled that Brunew died from strangulation sometime
Speaker 1: in the mid morning before she was found. Officers met
Speaker 1: with Brown when they visited his home to speak with
Speaker 1: his wife, who is identified as Thelma Brown. She was
Speaker 1: Brunew's best friend.
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
Speaker 1: At the time, Brunew and Thelma co owned a home
Speaker 1: in Dallas that had been damaged in a fire. Brown
Speaker 1: is accused of pressuring Brunew to sign fraudulent insurance documents
Speaker 1: with inflated repair costs. Brunew allegedly refused to sign those documents.
Speaker 1: Thelma later forged her signature on the paperwork following the
Speaker 1: woman's death. So this case remained unsolved until evidence was
Speaker 1: re examined in twenty ten. They were able to identify
Speaker 1: some DNA, Unfortunately it was an unknown male they had
Speaker 1: no match in their system. That is the code of system,
Speaker 1: the Combined DNA Index system. When the case was reopened,
Speaker 1: detectives worked with the Larimer County Sheriff's office in Colorado,
Speaker 1: where Brown was living at the time, to obtain DNA
Speaker 1: samples from soda bottles found in his trash. Nice right,
Speaker 1: So they later received results indicating that Brown could not
Speaker 1: be excluded as the source of the blood found on
Speaker 1: Brunew's nightgown. So I just love when a good cold
Speaker 1: case is solved.
Speaker 2: Yes, all over some insurance fraud, I mean, what the hell? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know that's what happens when you co own people
Speaker 2: with people you think. So, yeah, it's true. You can't
Speaker 2: do proper insurance fraud.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussion over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks about eighteen year old Nolan Wells, whose body
Speaker 1: was recovered July sixth and the waters of Horn Island, Mississippi.
Speaker 1: This was two days after he traveled there by boat
Speaker 1: with friends to celebrate the fourth of July. Now, Dylan,
Speaker 1: you are familiar with this case?
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, yeah, I mean it's everywhere, right, no matter
Speaker 2: where you look, be it at the gym, you'll see
Speaker 2: it on the news channel up there above the treadmills,
Speaker 2: or online, and I would say almost any social media app.
Speaker 2: But I'm not super familiar with the nuts and bolts
Speaker 2: of the case, the deets, if you will. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I know of it and I know, oh what's I
Speaker 2: kind of know both sides well.
Speaker 1: The cases drawing national attention, largely because of some unanswered
Speaker 1: questions about wells final hours and his cause of death.
Speaker 1: His family said they believe race has influenced how law
Speaker 1: enforcement is handling the ongoing investigation, while calling for thoroughness
Speaker 1: and transparency. Newly released records show the movements of the
Speaker 1: boat that carried Nolan Wells to Horn Island on July fourth,
Speaker 1: before the eighteen year old disappeared and later died in
Speaker 1: a case that has attracted all this national attention. So
Speaker 1: while much remains publicly unknown about his final hours amid
Speaker 1: both a sheriff's investigation and his own family's probe, the
Speaker 1: boat records align with what some friends who saw Wells
Speaker 1: that day have already said. Wells traveled to the island
Speaker 1: by boat with friends for like an Independence Day party,
Speaker 1: but did not return with them that evening. His mother
Speaker 1: reported him missing after hearing from one of his friends,
Speaker 1: and ultiple agencies launched a search on July fifth. His
Speaker 1: body was recovered in the water at the island on
Speaker 1: July sixth. Wells's cause of death has not been confirmed,
Speaker 1: and the results of an official and independent autopsy are pending.
Speaker 1: There have been some conflicting accounts about whether Wells chose
Speaker 1: to remain on Horn Island. His friends told authorities that
Speaker 1: he did and that he had met a girl there,
Speaker 1: but Wells's parents, Christine and Elmore Wansley, have said it
Speaker 1: would have been out of character and reckless for their
Speaker 1: son to separate from the group. Elmore has called that
Speaker 1: account a lie.
Speaker 2: Well So, at first I thought that this group of
Speaker 2: friends had just went to some you know, this island
Speaker 2: or whatever. But then I guess I hear there was
Speaker 2: a lot of people there, right, all many different boats,
Speaker 2: different groups of friends. Is that the case?
Speaker 1: It sounds like this was a place where a lot
Speaker 1: of young people would go to party.
Speaker 2: Right, So everyone's there doing their place the.
Speaker 1: Fourth So naturally, I think you're going to have, you know,
Speaker 1: probably different groups of young people out partying, and this
Speaker 1: seems to be a spot where the kids go. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense that there's probably different different
Speaker 1: groups of people.
Speaker 2: Now, if I tell the group of friends I'm with,
Speaker 2: I don't want to go back with you guys, because
Speaker 2: you're leaving before I'm ready. And you know, this happens, right,
Speaker 2: you're having fun. Maybe they're all ready to go, but
Speaker 2: you're not, And I'll just catch a ride with someone
Speaker 2: else because there's other people there, likely you know, other people,
Speaker 2: I would imagine, And that doesn't seem like that big
Speaker 2: of a deal to me. That seems like something young
Speaker 2: people would do. Now they know there's some better than
Speaker 2: I do, right the family and they're saying that he
Speaker 2: would never decide to stay when you know the people
Speaker 2: who brought him are leaving. So I certainly can't say
Speaker 2: that's not true or not true, but I don't know
Speaker 2: that it seems like you have this case and the
Speaker 2: worst part of is this young man's loss his life. Yes, right,
Speaker 2: no matter what happened, he's dead, and that's terrible. You
Speaker 2: look like a really smart, handsome young man, very popular,
Speaker 2: very popular, had a bright future. I'm a tall play Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, his life's just beginning. It seems so bad
Speaker 2: when you see these stories that happen to young people.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they're just figuring themselves out or what
Speaker 2: they might want to do, and then it's all kind
Speaker 2: of you know, snuffed or it's taken away, if you will.
Speaker 2: But and I think the truth needs to come out,
Speaker 2: no matter what the truth is, right, right, But I
Speaker 2: think you can't help but see that various people are
Speaker 2: just kind of using this story in a way to
Speaker 2: further their own interest, right, And I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: any just I don't know. It's just turned into this
Speaker 2: thing to where it doesn't seem to be about him.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to be about what happened to him.
Speaker 2: It's like people are trying to turn it into something
Speaker 2: and I don't even know what.
Speaker 1: Oh, and it reminds me. This very much reminds me
Speaker 1: of the Kendrick Johnson case out of Georgia that we
Speaker 1: covered some months ago. Right, how this young man passed away.
Speaker 1: There's mystery surrounding it. A lot of fingers are being pointed,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are trying to make it a
Speaker 1: racial issue or say that it's a race based crime
Speaker 1: I hate crime, or that the investigation didn't go as
Speaker 1: it should because of racism. But then you have multiple
Speaker 1: agencies looking into it and determining kind of the same outcome.
Speaker 1: But it seems like maybe the family doesn't want to
Speaker 1: accept that outcome, right, And so, yeah, we don't know
Speaker 1: a whole lot about this. We do know Wells was
Speaker 1: last seen on the island around three pm on July fourth.
Speaker 1: Ashley Cole, a local chancery judge whose son Warren was
Speaker 1: with Wells that day, released a lengthy statement saying that
Speaker 1: Warren last saw Wells around three pm. According to Cole,
Speaker 1: Warren left about four point thirty pm because the boat
Speaker 1: had begun taking on water and was experiencing problems with
Speaker 1: its bilge pump. She said her son was interviewed by
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's Department and has fully cooperated with investigators. Another
Speaker 1: of Welles's friends, who was on the island that day,
Speaker 1: Tracaton Shepherd, said that the group left the island on
Speaker 1: the boat because of an electrical problem, but that Wells
Speaker 1: remained after he had met a young woman. Now records
Speaker 1: obtained by NBC News support the timeline about the boat leaving,
Speaker 1: indicating that the boat's operator called dispatch around four PM
Speaker 1: to request assistance. The records, however, do not confirm everyone
Speaker 1: who traveled on the boat or providing any further information
Speaker 1: about Wells's whereabouts at that time. Okay, the caller reported
Speaker 1: there were like seven people on board, add in quote,
Speaker 1: I want to get this boat unsank and towed back
Speaker 1: now Separately, GPS data obtained by CBS News from the
Speaker 1: Mississippi Department of Marine Resources shows the vessel left to
Speaker 1: dock shortly before ten am and arrived at Horn Island
Speaker 1: at eleven fourteen am, where it remained until four thirty
Speaker 1: one pm. Wells family has said he stayed with friends
Speaker 1: the night before ahead of going to the party that day.
Speaker 1: According to the GPS data, the boat left the island
Speaker 1: at four thirty one pm and returned to its original
Speaker 1: departure dock. It then traveled to Fort BYU around five
Speaker 1: point fifty two pm before returning to the dock at
Speaker 1: six oh six pm. The boat traveled back to Fort
Speaker 1: BYU a boat launch at seven nineteen pm. It later
Speaker 1: traveled over land to the nearby Biloxi. Residents of the
Speaker 1: boat's owners, Wells parents have retained civil rights attorney civil
Speaker 1: rights attorney Ben Crump, and they have sharply questioned the
Speaker 1: investigation so far, calling for thoroughness and transparency and suggesting
Speaker 1: that race is a factor, while saying they don't believe
Speaker 1: Wells accidentally drowned, as authorities have said, is possible.
Speaker 2: So there, well, there you go now, and if their
Speaker 2: family truly believes that, you know what is possible, you know,
Speaker 2: it could be some thing happened out there that we
Speaker 2: don't know, we don't know about yet, and maybe all
Speaker 2: that will come out. That's certainly possible. But when you
Speaker 2: get in bed with people like Ben Crump, right, these
Speaker 2: famous almost mouthpieces of the system, my fear is that
Speaker 2: it kind of everything's through that lens now, right, no
Speaker 2: matter what is true or no matter what is said,
Speaker 2: it's all filtered through this this racial lens, this civil
Speaker 2: rights violation lens and all this stuff, and I think
Speaker 2: that's a problem, right.
Speaker 1: But I continue to see social media videos and I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to get into any kind of race discussion.
Speaker 1: I'm just stating what I've seen on social media a
Speaker 1: lot of calls that if you are the parent of
Speaker 1: black children, that you should not allow them to hang
Speaker 1: out with groups of white people, right, because this is
Speaker 1: what will happen.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I've been seeing videos of people going up,
Speaker 2: say there's a group of white people and there's one
Speaker 2: black kid.
Speaker 1: With them, oh, and asking are you okay?
Speaker 2: And asking are you okay? You know how disgusting that
Speaker 2: because you know what, the kid is okay because the
Speaker 2: kid looks happy as fuck, bro okay, and every video
Speaker 2: and the people are like, what like confused as to
Speaker 2: what they mean. But you know, that's ridiculous. You know,
Speaker 2: if the shoe was on the other foot, and there
Speaker 2: was all these videos of white people walking up to
Speaker 2: a group of black people that happen to have one
Speaker 2: white person with them and asking them if they're safe
Speaker 2: and okay, would that not that would probably be a
Speaker 2: big deal, right, I'm.
Speaker 1: Sure it would be.
Speaker 2: People wouldn't view that as funny, and you know what,
Speaker 2: I would also not view it as funny because it's
Speaker 2: fucking ridiculous. It's a ridiculous thing to do and a
Speaker 2: way to act.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. You know, it's a horrible tragedy
Speaker 1: and I know it's a parent's worst nightmare, and I would,
Speaker 1: as a parent want to find out every single detail
Speaker 1: of my child's remaining hours, like what happened, and would
Speaker 1: want to make sense of it. But I'm also somebody
Speaker 1: who's pretty logical and reasonable, and if authorities are saying, look,
Speaker 1: there's really no sign of foul play here, and then
Speaker 1: the autopsy reveals the young man died, you know, from
Speaker 1: like an accidental drowning or something like that, I would.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it would be hard to wrap
Speaker 1: your head around that as a parent and accept it.
Speaker 1: But this automatic rush to judgment and to decide what
Speaker 1: has happened and to make it into something that it's
Speaker 1: not right off the bat, I don't think is ever
Speaker 1: positive for anybody on any side. And as a parent,
Speaker 1: like you said, it does kind of dilute the facts
Speaker 1: and you will still have people who will push against
Speaker 1: the obvious truth and still paint a narrative that we
Speaker 1: can't trust you because you're racist law enforcement, we can't
Speaker 1: believe the medical examiner, and that it's like a big,
Speaker 1: vast conspiracy, just like with the Kendrick Johnson case. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody hate to see that because it does it diminishes
Speaker 1: this tragedy.
Speaker 2: Well, it does, and it can in the end, it
Speaker 2: can actually affect the truth, truth and all the facts
Speaker 2: coming out, right, And so I'm to believe that something
Speaker 2: happened out there, and again we don't. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I mean, all everything in the preliminary results and
Speaker 2: everyone's observations are that something happened, but not what they're describing, right,
Speaker 2: maybe some accident or something to that of that nature.
Speaker 2: But so your your son would never stay behind, right,
Speaker 2: But they're out there hanging out, everybody's having a great time,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden the boat needs to go
Speaker 2: back because it's having mechanical issues. Well that's the ZAC scenario,
Speaker 2: where a young person may stay behind and want to
Speaker 2: keep hanging out with friends and having fun. Right.
Speaker 1: Well, just as a parent saying, why I know my
Speaker 1: kid wouldn't do this. But here's the thing. When there's
Speaker 1: drugs or alcohol involved, and I'm not saying that there
Speaker 1: was or that this young man was participating in any
Speaker 1: of that kind of thing, but I'm sure there was
Speaker 1: drugs and alcohol probably in and around the young man.
Speaker 1: And you have groups of young people, there's peer pressure,
Speaker 1: and if you throw in the mix a young lady
Speaker 1: that he's eyeing or you know, maybe trying to court
Speaker 1: or whatever, that can definitely change things. And your child
Speaker 1: that might normally be responsible, could make a decision that's irresponsible, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going to stay behind thinking everything will be okay
Speaker 1: because I've got other friends here, I'm trying to pursue
Speaker 1: this young woman whatever. And so I think, I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking here is that without any evidence of
Speaker 1: foul play, you know, you don't have an autopsy report,
Speaker 1: there's no toxicology report, nothing like that has come out yet.
Speaker 1: But then you have people going to the press, whether
Speaker 1: it's the parents or the attorney, kind of making accusations
Speaker 1: and putting their son's friends on blast who have known
Speaker 1: this guy for you know, twelve years plus, that have
Speaker 1: gone to school with him, that seemingly loved him, he
Speaker 1: seemed very popular, like everybody was his friend. And you know,
Speaker 1: some of the I guess the other friends maybe who
Speaker 1: were not involved this day, have been speaking out like
Speaker 1: he was very beloved. And so for people to get
Speaker 1: on the TV and say like any of us would
Speaker 1: harm him as crazy because he was like our brother.
Speaker 1: We loved him right, and he was like part of
Speaker 1: the family, like he was our best friend. We would
Speaker 1: never hurt him. I mean, I just think that can
Speaker 1: be very dangerous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I'm supposed to believe that a this
Speaker 2: whole group is you know, something happened, and they're all
Speaker 2: keeping it quiet. All the investigators who you know, first
Speaker 2: on scene and everything, they're they're they're not reporting facts,
Speaker 2: they're keeping quiet to everyone there, all the other witnesses,
Speaker 2: potential groups of people, they're all keeping it quiet too.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just when you look at it, it
Speaker 2: really gets ridiculous very quickly. And as a parent, I
Speaker 2: would never want someone else to take what happened to
Speaker 2: my child and use it for their own agenda. And
Speaker 2: that's just that's just seems to be what happened and
Speaker 2: has happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what shame on this attorney, because
Speaker 1: unless they know something that the public has not been told,
Speaker 1: this attorney has knowingly put these young people's lives in danger,
Speaker 1: the friends they have been receiving threats, And I think
Speaker 1: a good attorney would not have done that. He would
Speaker 1: have waited for evidence, because you don't put assumptions out
Speaker 1: there no without proof, and it just can turn out
Speaker 1: to be a disaster, because if Nolan stayed behind and
Speaker 1: drowned and it was an accident, then you know, this
Speaker 1: lawyer has kind of incited these feelings or issues or
Speaker 1: whatever that didn't even exist.
Speaker 2: He doesn't care. A person like him does not care.
Speaker 2: That's the way I'll just view it.
Speaker 1: Right. I feel sorry for this family and I can't
Speaker 1: imagine what they're going through, But I also I just
Speaker 1: don't I guess I don't understand this immediate push to
Speaker 1: create like maybe a narrative that we don't have any evidence.
Speaker 2: To support yet, right, So I don't.
Speaker 1: See how that's really beneficial unless you get some information
Speaker 1: that comes out and you have some evidence, Like I
Speaker 1: don't know, just throwing around baseless accusations based on your
Speaker 1: feelings rather than facts. That never ends well.
Speaker 2: But see, once they people start acting like this, the
Speaker 2: truth can never come through because autops of your report
Speaker 2: could come out tomorrow saying oh, this is all the
Speaker 2: hallmarks of an accident, dental drowning or something, or say
Speaker 2: he was using something. I'm not saying he.
Speaker 1: Was, but oh, like he was under the influence of
Speaker 1: something else.
Speaker 2: So maybe you know, he was intoxicated and maybe drowns
Speaker 2: trying to swim, or wasn't a strong swim or what
Speaker 2: are any of that. They're just not going to believe it.
Speaker 2: They'll just say that's more of the conspiracy. And when
Speaker 2: people start acting like that, it's just I mean, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: Well, as someone who's worked as a reporter in a
Speaker 1: college town, every like late summer, early fall semester, it
Speaker 1: seems there is always a story. When I was working
Speaker 1: as a reporter, there was always a story. It seemed
Speaker 1: to almost every year, like clockwork, that a student, a
Speaker 1: freshman typically not from the area, would come to this
Speaker 1: college in the mountains and would go swimming either at
Speaker 1: the lake or in the river, not knowing there's undercurrents.
Speaker 2: You know, I hadn't grown up around swimming.
Speaker 1: You know, certain areas of like river whitewater, like you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be swimming or messing around in there would typically
Speaker 1: be something involved like alcohol, and you would have drownings.
Speaker 1: And it's just an accident. It's just a tragic accident, right,
Speaker 1: you know, But I don't recall people throwing around, you know,
Speaker 1: buzzwords and trying to like make accusations. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: it truly is just an accident.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully the truth comes out and like I said,
Speaker 2: nothing's going to change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we definitely need to wait for more
Speaker 1: facts and information before we make a judgment on this case.
Speaker 2: Now, this young man lost his life, but I can't
Speaker 2: lose sight of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I think it's a good teachable moment
Speaker 1: for parents that we should all talk about these things
Speaker 1: with our kids. That you know, when you're out with
Speaker 1: your friends, even if everybody else is drinking or smoking
Speaker 1: pot or whatever, you're on the water. You need to
Speaker 1: be responsible. You need to take care of yourself. You
Speaker 1: need to make sure you were making good decisions.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean just the last week or so,
Speaker 2: I jumped in a lake and you were like, hey,
Speaker 2: you've been You've had a few beers and you don't
Speaker 2: have any you know, I'm a very strong swimmer. But
Speaker 2: she's like, you don't know these waters, anything could happen.
Speaker 2: You should be careful. So you were preaching safety to me,
Speaker 2: and we're in our forties.
Speaker 1: I'm always preaching safety because I'm neurotic and I see
Speaker 1: danger at every turn. Okay, And I float because I'm
Speaker 1: paranoid and I have mental illness.
Speaker 2: I just started floating, and then she chilled out because
Speaker 2: I float so well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I think I threw a float at you.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not putting on the wings.
Speaker 1: You need some swimmis. I wish they made swimmies for adults.
Speaker 1: I'd put the motherfuckers on and I would just be
Speaker 1: like having the best time now. A father's son duo
Speaker 1: in California allegedly kidnapped a pair of US Forest Service workers.
Speaker 1: According to the US attorney Eric Grant, Okay, you heard
Speaker 1: the story. No, Well, they were held hostage inside a
Speaker 1: trailer in a rural area near Mount Shasta. The FBI
Speaker 1: deployed a hostage negotiator from Quantico to coordinate with local authorities.
Speaker 1: The authorities negotiated the hostages release after hours of talks
Speaker 1: with the kidnappers.
Speaker 2: What was the problem.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know, Dylan. A Forest Service
Speaker 1: employee called authorities around eleven am on Thursday to notify
Speaker 1: them of the kidnapping. The FBI secured the release of
Speaker 1: one of the hostages at one fifty am on Friday,
Speaker 1: and the second hostage fifteen minutes later. The alleged kidnappers
Speaker 1: surrendered themselves to the FBI two thirty am. So at
Speaker 1: this point, I don't really know why they were being held.
Speaker 1: We don't know what the kidnappers motivations are or why
Speaker 1: they wanted to speak with the FBI. So at this point,
Speaker 1: little information is out that I can find. But it's
Speaker 1: just a very strange story.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean when when's the last time you
Speaker 2: even heard of something like that happening?
Speaker 1: Now, Dylan, are you familiar with OnlyFans model Courtney Clinney.
Speaker 2: No, So I'm not being funny. I don't know any
Speaker 2: only fans.
Speaker 1: Well, she was accused in the twenty twenty two death
Speaker 1: of Christian Ombumsley, her boyfriend, and she she's been arguing
Speaker 1: after her arrest that she acted in self defense as
Speaker 1: a battered spouse, all right, and she's trying to file
Speaker 1: documents in court to say that she was a battered spouse,
Speaker 1: and she's trying to turn the tables on prosecutors before
Speaker 1: her murder trial begins, asking the judge to block the
Speaker 1: state from using a string of alleged prior violent incidents
Speaker 1: to paint her as the aggressor.
Speaker 2: All right, so she wants to.
Speaker 1: Suppress evidence that she's been a violent aggressor while also
Speaker 1: using the battered spouse defense.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's tricky, right, I Mean, on face value,
Speaker 2: you would say that really doesn't add up, Like, how
Speaker 2: are there all these I'm going to assume videos or
Speaker 2: maybe texts painting you out as a violent individual or
Speaker 2: an aggressive person.
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds yeah, or it sounds like maybe there
Speaker 1: were other domestic violence calls into law enforcement. Perhaps.
Speaker 2: Well, now, as far as those go, all a lot
Speaker 2: of times the cops don't know exactly what happened. Now,
Speaker 2: I've seen before where you do have the abuser paint
Speaker 2: out their victim as having been the one to actually
Speaker 2: attack them or something like that, and it not be true,
Speaker 2: but the cops kind of believe, you know, because the
Speaker 2: cops no offense to them. They're just coming into the situation.
Speaker 2: They don't know anything and so, and then you have
Speaker 2: one person who's hysterical, right, which never I've always told people,
Speaker 2: you can't act like this to cops because they don't
Speaker 2: know what's happening, and they're just going to see you
Speaker 2: and think you're freaking. You're the problem because you're the
Speaker 2: one who's out of control, hysterical, being loud and all that.
Speaker 2: So as far as if it's just domestic violence reports,
Speaker 2: but oftentimes you really need calls of calls for service
Speaker 2: records for that and things, and maybe where the cops
Speaker 2: do come and find you beat up and you know,
Speaker 2: know that they're abusing you. I mean, you need some
Speaker 2: evidence of that. I think before you can really say
Speaker 2: someone is, you know, abusing you to the point where
Speaker 2: you have to kill them to protect yourself.
Speaker 1: Her lawyers are asking a judge to allow them to
Speaker 1: bring up Umbumcelly's twenty twenty Austin arrest warrant. The warrant,
Speaker 1: which attached was attached to the defense filing, accuses umbum
Speaker 1: Selly of cruelty to a non livestock animal, which is
Speaker 1: a Class A misdemeanor in Travis County, Texas. It lists
Speaker 1: an offense date of November two, twenty twenty, but does
Speaker 1: not show how the case was resolved. Clinny's lawyers are
Speaker 1: claiming the records behind the warrant described apartment staff finding
Speaker 1: Umbum Selly's dead dog, Halo, confined inside a kennel on
Speaker 1: a closet after an apartment had been abandoned. Investigators allegedly
Speaker 1: found food in the kennel, but no water and fece
Speaker 1: surrounding the animal. A veterinarian pathologist concluded the dog most
Speaker 1: likely died due to dehydration from water deprivation, and that
Speaker 1: the dog had been dead for five to seven days
Speaker 1: before being discovered, and that Obum Selly Obumseelly I know
Speaker 1: I'm butchering his name, gave vague, confusing and conflicting accounts
Speaker 1: about the dog's death. So she's trying to bring in
Speaker 1: this animal cruelty fight as part of a broader pre
Speaker 1: trial battle over how jurors will see the couple's volatile relationship,
Speaker 1: and she's hoping that this will show the jurors that
Speaker 1: he was just like this terrible person. There is video.
Speaker 1: It's a snippet of an elevator video that a lot
Speaker 1: of people have seen it's been publicized that shows Clinny
Speaker 1: as the aggressor. She's striking Mbumselli, pulling his hair, hitting
Speaker 1: him before the door's open, and he manages to escape.
Speaker 1: But of course her attorneys are saying, well, you know,
Speaker 1: this video takes out the part that happened, like before
Speaker 1: she attacked him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're they're saying, you don't see the full
Speaker 2: context of the video.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about the animal, this poor dog. That's terrible.
Speaker 2: If you could do that to a living creature, I
Speaker 2: personally think you're a piece of shit. But you could
Speaker 2: argue the way someone treats an animal, because some people
Speaker 2: view animals as just that an animal, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of beneath them and you know, unemotional, they're not attached.
Speaker 2: They just think there's some dumb animal. You could argue
Speaker 2: that the way that that person treats an animal, it
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean that's how they would treat their partner
Speaker 2: or their wife or girlfriend. Right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, I understand that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get why she's trying to introduce this. I get
Speaker 1: why she is but into the trial and get this
Speaker 1: evidence before jurors.
Speaker 2: Now I get it is to show a level of
Speaker 2: cruelty and things like that, but also from the someone
Speaker 2: from the other side day did argue you're going to
Speaker 2: buas the jury in the rest of the case because
Speaker 2: of what he did to this dog. You see what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, And like I said, you may view
Speaker 2: dogs differently than humans and be capable of treating a dog.
Speaker 1: I guess my attitude is, if that's the only evidence
Speaker 1: you have to back up your claim, when there's a
Speaker 1: lot of other evidence to suggest you were the violent aggressor.
Speaker 2: You're in trouble. Yeah, no you are. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're fighting tooth and nail over just animal cruelty stuff,
Speaker 2: then I don't know what to say. And you're also
Speaker 2: fighting to have multiple other pieces of evidence which paint you,
Speaker 2: in your words, paint you out as the aggressor, which
Speaker 2: means that you basically look like the Chris Or when
Speaker 2: you watch the video, Then yeah, you got a problem.
Speaker 2: I think you've got a problem.
Speaker 1: Well, and if that's the only thing you have to
Speaker 1: suggest this person was violent or immoral or whatever, then
Speaker 1: I think you don't really stand a chance at trial.
Speaker 1: And honestly don't know if the animal cruelty thing should
Speaker 1: be allowed to go before jerors because that seems that's
Speaker 1: a terrible thing on its own. But I don't feel
Speaker 1: like that's part of this.
Speaker 2: No, this case, That's what I was saying, is it.
Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with the fact that you murdered
Speaker 1: this man.
Speaker 2: No, and honestly it's you could argue it's only to
Speaker 2: basically characteristic to do character assassination on the person.
Speaker 1: Who's des because he's dead you killed.
Speaker 2: Yes, You're right, he can't defend himself. He can't explain that,
Speaker 2: you know, he can't explain maybe he got couldn't come back,
Speaker 2: or maybe the person he thought was watching his an.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying it's true.
Speaker 1: We could. We don't know the details outside of what
Speaker 1: has been You can't defend himself against this other thing,
Speaker 1: is what I'm Yeah.
Speaker 2: And he could have for all he knew. Somebody was
Speaker 2: supposed to be taking care of the animal. It paid
Speaker 2: the money to do it, and they didn't do it,
Speaker 2: and they let the animal die. I mean, you don't
Speaker 2: know what happened in that situation, and I think it
Speaker 2: I think it should be kept out just because it's
Speaker 2: not relevant. It's relevant to this case doesn't really work
Speaker 2: from me, even though whoever did that to that dog,
Speaker 2: like I said, is a piece of shit. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you could do that to any
Speaker 2: Leave it. Hell, I wouldn't do that to a freaking
Speaker 2: hermit crab. Just leave it and not you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It's weird to lock to lock something up
Speaker 2: and not give it food or let use the bathroom
Speaker 2: or have clean conditions. I know you always try to
Speaker 2: bring him back from the beach when we go to
Speaker 2: the beaches. I just want one like a little kid.
Speaker 1: I am like a little kid. Look to fuck childhood.
Speaker 1: Let me be a little kid now, okay, okay, I
Speaker 1: want to experience all the joy of childhood as an adult.
Speaker 1: A twenty one year old man police say dismembered and
Speaker 1: disposed of his girlfriend, has pled not guilty in connection
Speaker 1: with her death. Dylan twenty five year old Isadore Wingle
Speaker 1: was last seeing December thirty, first of twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: and was reported missing by our family a week later.
Speaker 1: So on January tenth, athorties announced suspected foul play. Joshua
Speaker 1: Height was arrested on February tenth and charged with murder
Speaker 1: and evidence tampering. Investigators said they believe Height dismembered Wangle
Speaker 1: with a sow that he purchased on door dash and
Speaker 1: disposed of her remains in a plastic tote during a
Speaker 1: midwinter freeze.
Speaker 2: I mean you came and go get the saw yourself, dude,
Speaker 2: I mean, what do we do it? You're going to order?
Speaker 1: Why are you trying to ruin door dash for the
Speaker 1: rest of us?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying you hear these in these stories
Speaker 2: nowadays where people have, you know, murder kits delivered and stuff,
Speaker 2: and see the stupid part is you're really just adding
Speaker 2: another layer of someone who could testify against you. So
Speaker 2: it's kind of goofy.
Speaker 1: During the investigation into Height, it was learned that he'd
Speaker 1: allegedly made searches for home depot, a sawsaw, door dash,
Speaker 1: junk removal, near me, dumpster, and how to register for
Speaker 1: a legal alias. On January fourth.
Speaker 2: A llegal alias.
Speaker 1: In a dumpster at Heights Apartment building, police found a
Speaker 1: receipt from home Depot for Milwaukee sawzaw reciprocating saw, some
Speaker 1: clear plastic sheeting, extra large trash bags, black duct tape,
Speaker 1: and a carbide saw blade, all of which were allegedly
Speaker 1: delivered via door Dash, and they believe Wangel was killed
Speaker 1: between the third and the sixth. This DoorDash delivery took
Speaker 1: place on January fourth. Her remains have never been found.
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm telling you right now, if I'm the door
Speaker 2: if I'm the dasher, and I yes, I'm sure people's
Speaker 2: like what door dash they do more than just food.
Speaker 2: They basically bring you anything.
Speaker 1: Now, apparently they bring you a murder kit and you order.
Speaker 2: Plastic sheeting, extra large trash bag tape, duct tape, and
Speaker 2: the reciprocating saw and a heavy duty blade.
Speaker 1: I do not believe you were trying a home improvement
Speaker 1: project out, bud.
Speaker 2: No, I don't believe that at all. This is a
Speaker 2: murder kit.
Speaker 1: Kvv R reports that as saw blade found at the
Speaker 1: apartment contained blood and bone fragments matching the victims DNA profile.
Speaker 1: Height had allegedly told interviewers that hen Wigel got into
Speaker 1: an argument on the Weygel one Wengle sorry on the
Speaker 1: morning of January fourth because he wanted to break up
Speaker 1: with her. He claimed he dropped her off at home. Afterwards.
Speaker 1: A judge did order a mental competcency exam for him
Speaker 1: to determine whether he was competent to stand trial. He
Speaker 1: had a July fifteenth court appearance. Height pleaded not guilty
Speaker 1: to murder, evidence tampering, and giving false information to law enforcement,
Speaker 1: and will appear in court again on September third.
Speaker 2: All right, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Sorry, How dumb are you? You're gonna door dash a
Speaker 1: murder kit to your house?
Speaker 2: Well, apparently this guy is that dumb, very dumb. Maybe
Speaker 2: he didn't do it.
Speaker 1: We have to discuss this because it just seems every day,
Speaker 1: I don't know, the world is going to hell and
Speaker 1: handbasket Dylan, a seventy five year old man has been
Speaker 1: taken into custody and charged with murder and connection with
Speaker 1: the shooting of a construction worker. So this guy shot
Speaker 1: a construction worker, Sala's Hen Rahan, who was aged twenty.
Speaker 1: The guy was shot in the chest and taken to
Speaker 1: the hospital where he was later pronounced dead. And this
Speaker 1: elderly man, this seventy five year old George Barr, after
Speaker 1: shooting the man, took his dog for a walk.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Neighbors heard the popping sound and then they saw the homeowner,
Speaker 1: George Barr leaving the house to take the dog for
Speaker 1: a walk. Inside the house, authorities found a rifle with
Speaker 1: a bayonet and a contractor bill for seventy thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: When Barr returned from walking his dog, he was arrested
Speaker 1: and taken into custody on charges of murder, possession of
Speaker 1: an instrument in a crime, and reckless endangerment. This man
Speaker 1: was previously convicted of assault in nineteen eighty one. He
Speaker 1: is a retired firefighter and a Vietnam War a veteran.
Speaker 1: Han Rahan, a native of England, was the father of
Speaker 1: a baby girl. The Department of Homeland Security alleges he
Speaker 1: was part of a group that scams homeowners with overpriced
Speaker 1: and low quality construction or renovation projects, but police have
Speaker 1: not released a motive in the shooting yet. They report
Speaker 1: that money might have been a factor. So this man
Speaker 1: remains behind bars without bail. But you know, you just
Speaker 1: shoot someone and then take your dog on a lot.
Speaker 2: Your dog's got to go, and maybe you figure that
Speaker 2: you're not going to be there once you get back,
Speaker 2: like you might have to go to jail.
Speaker 1: Good grief. I just don't know how you can be
Speaker 1: so casual after you murder someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to order.
Speaker 1: Door dash and I'm going to take my dog for
Speaker 1: a walk. What is wrong with these people?
Speaker 2: I do not know what is wrong with these people
Speaker 2: that we live in a world some very strange crime.
Speaker 2: You just recounted their heather, Right.
Speaker 1: It's an odd week. Yeah, it's been a weird week, Dylan.
Speaker 2: Gosh, well, thank you for that. Thank you for that
Speaker 2: this sometime this week. I enjoyed it. And uh, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: I hope soon that we learn information about Nolan Wells's passing.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: I think I did see reports where like the Cajun
Speaker 1: Navy were kind of discussing some of the tides that
Speaker 1: could have affected maybe like where his body was found
Speaker 1: or drowning and that kind of.
Speaker 2: Thing to where he maybe went into the water. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, well, yeah, that's pretty interesting when people get
Speaker 2: into the title currents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of that, I recently saw some new
Speaker 1: information they're trying to bring to light in the Scott
Speaker 1: Peterson case and they actually had some folks I guess
Speaker 1: who are mariners or who you know, discuss mariner issues
Speaker 1: like tide charts and tie you know, tables and whatnot
Speaker 1: that we're trying to say, like Lacy Peterson's body would
Speaker 1: have been dumped like in a completely different spot according
Speaker 1: to the tides to wash up where it did.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so they're saying the cops had it wrong.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, so that'll be interesting. I know they're trying
Speaker 1: to get him a new trial. They say they have
Speaker 1: some new evidence, some new leads.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny about the public is everybody instantly
Speaker 2: becomes an expert. Yes, because in this knowing case, I've
Speaker 2: seen people saying that his friends violated marry tom law,
Speaker 2: maritime law, marittime law by something that they did or
Speaker 2: didn't do. And I'm just like, like.
Speaker 1: You woulds an expert.
Speaker 2: Like you've ever uttered those and people are just all
Speaker 2: maritime law, maritime law, like you've ever uttered those words
Speaker 2: a day in your life. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're going to die on this heel about something you
Speaker 2: know absolutely nothing about until two seconds ago.
Speaker 1: I know this idea, and it really seems to be
Speaker 1: social media, I think is the driving factor. And we
Speaker 1: should blame social media that now everyone thinks they're an
Speaker 1: expert on all subjects all the time, and we're talking
Speaker 1: people who are probably barely literate, it's true, are experts
Speaker 1: on constitutional law, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or the world economics or market supply and demand.
Speaker 1: It's like down, Martha, you can't even balance your check book.
Speaker 1: I saw your photo posted at the grocery store that
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to accept checks from you. So why
Speaker 1: don't you be quiet?
Speaker 2: Martha's on the wall of shame exactly, all right. So
Speaker 2: I hope everyone enjoys the rest of their day, and
Speaker 2: we will be back soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got Larry Flint Part three.
Speaker 2: Larry Flint Part three.
Speaker 1: Sad, we'll be dropping that soon.
Speaker 2: Bye Dylan, Bye,