WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.399 --> 00:00:03.120 It's Maria's MutS and Stuff. 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:06.519 What a great idea on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:14.279 Welcome to Maria's Mutts and Stuff and with me. Well, 4 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.199 this is very exciting because not only are they return 5 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:21.280 guests plus a new one, but they're actually here in 6 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:25.679 the studios, so welcome. I have Kathy Galatti and Erica 7 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:30.679 Kuberski from Positive Tales in Brooklyn, and doctor Brett Levitzky 8 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:34.159 from Veterinary Emergency Referral Group. Is that correct? 9 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:35.439 Correct, that's correct? 10 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:40.000 Okay, well, welcome, thanks, welcome back, Welcome Brett. So the 11 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:41.880 last time I had to look it up because you 12 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:45.079 are return guests, and the last time Erica and Kathy 13 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:48.399 were here it was back in September of twenty eighteen. 14 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:52.280 Crazy crazy time is So, what's happened in six years? 15 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:53.520 What a lot? 16 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:54.280 Personally? 17 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.799 Well yeah, well we can get into that too. So 18 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.759 tell me what has Positive Tales? What have some of 19 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.240 the highlights you've done in the past, even in the 20 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:03.920 past year. 21 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:06.879 I mean, I think probably some of the more you know, 22 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:10.959 we've continue to work on our emergency cases, and there 23 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:13.400 been a lot of those to work on, but probably 24 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:17.400 since twenty eighteen, we've introduced our pop up clinics where 25 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.519 we do a lot of pop up veterinary clinics and 26 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:24.599 underserved areas city. Sure, we'll go with a team of 27 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.439 team of veterinarians veninary technicians and set up and we'll 28 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.799 probably see about one hundred and fifty families and do 29 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:37.359 wellness and vaccines. And I think that's probably been the 30 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.319 most as far as us being able to be able 31 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:41.719 to see more clients. 32 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:43.799 I think that's sure. I guess that's huge. How often 33 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:45.120 do you do the pop up clinics. 34 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.599 I would probably we probably do them. I would say 35 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:50.239 sixty eight times a year. 36 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:52.640 Oh that's a lot. And of course you have volunteers 37 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:53.359 that come with you. 38 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.480 Yeah, we're really lucky. We are still one hundred percent volunteers. 39 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:02.319 Nice. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, no, that's good. That's good. 40 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.439 And doctor Brett, do you go along with them on 41 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.400 these pop up clinics or so. 42 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:12.560 I'm an emergency veterinarian at Verge and that's where we 43 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:14.120 see all of the emergency. 44 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:15.960 Cases that we deal with with positive tails. 45 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:19.159 But I will say it's very exciting these the more 46 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.360 pop up clinics we have, we do more preventive care there. 47 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:25.919 So the thought being is it. 48 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.520 Keeps them from coming in right to have to see 49 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.439 me sure in the emergency. 50 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.840 Room, right right. It's almost like when people take their 51 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.080 vitamins rather than just go to the doctor because they're 52 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:38.960 not healthy anymore. That's great. So for you as an 53 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:44.080 emergency doctor, what is the biggest emergency that people have 54 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:45.759 with their pets? I mean, is there one that's more 55 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.199 like something that's more common or. 56 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.680 All pet owners know that their dogs and their cats 57 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:53.800 can get very curious and eat things. 58 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:54.479 They're not supposed to do. 59 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.960 Yeah, and some of those things pass and some of 60 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.280 them don't and they get stuck in the gih act 61 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.879 and require surgery. Yeah, and that can be a bit costly. 62 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:07.199 Sure, sure, yeah, so that I mean, that would make sense. 63 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.599 And I think sometimes and not to blame the owners, 64 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.520 but sometimes I will. I think sometimes people forget to 65 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.360 pet proof their house and apartments. Then my thought has 66 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:18.520 always been, well, you'll do a certain thing for kids, 67 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:20.319 it's the same thing for pets. 68 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:21.800 It absolutely is. 69 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:26.319 The The thing is, though, dogs and cats they can 70 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:28.719 get into places that you may think you have your 71 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.680 your apartment pet proof, and then right someone will say, well, 72 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:36.159 I haven't seen that ball for years because it was 73 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:37.240 under the couch somewhere in. 74 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.680 The dog or cabin under there, and they find it. 75 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.680 Swallowed it and then they're back to see us. 76 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:45.280 Yeah yeah, I mean I would have agreed with you 77 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:46.879 until I got my most recent dog. 78 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:48.919 Uh huh. Yeah. 79 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:53.360 Luckily he's a tank, so everything eventually passes. 80 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:56.639 But right, so what is he eat? 81 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.240 I mean, I don't want to embarrass myself, but it's 82 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:00.719 not your fault. 83 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:01.240 You're busy. 84 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.159 He ate a peanut butter glass jar and all. 85 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:08.560 What the glass jar? Oh yeah, I never heard of that, 86 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:10.000 And I. 87 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.680 Will say her husband is a veterinarian also. 88 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:17.279 Right, right, I do him? Okay, okay, so wait, wait 89 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:19.319 I can't get my head around how big was this 90 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:21.839 peanut butter jar? You know, like that like a ra 91 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:23.360 How big is this dog? 92 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:25.240 He's about eighty pounds. 93 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.480 Oh okay, so he has like a massive mouth and jaw. 94 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.480 I would assume, right, that's powerful because glass. I mean, 95 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:34.319 I couldn't not that. I can't understand maybe a plastic 96 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:35.240 jar of peanut. 97 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:38.120 Butter, but okay, he's he's I don't understand him a lot. 98 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.240 Okay, Well, you're still getting to like how old. 99 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:44.120 You see he's probably about eight or nine. Now, okay, no, 100 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:45.560 he means he's awesome, but. 101 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.279 Yeah, of course he is. No, he's a dog, of course. 102 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.519 But I'm with you two years, with us two years? 103 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:52.519 Oh okay, okay, so you're still getting to know each other. 104 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:53.639 It's like a new relationship. 105 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.120 You're in that honeymoon p right and. 106 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:03.439 Now and now he's feeling more comfortable, right, so he's like, yeah, 107 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:08.399 I'm feeling more comfortable now this might oh my goodness. 108 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.839 So he's okay though, oh yeah, and so I guess 109 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.120 pasted it. He didn't have to have surgery for it. 110 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:16.399 Then he like pooped out the peanut butter and the 111 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:19.319 glass jar. Yeah, I mean, I'm not fascinated by this. 112 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:20.959 I'm sorry. 113 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:24.360 We took him in for an X ray. Yeah, that 114 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:26.040 there was a lot of glasses in there and then 115 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:29.040 in his belly. Yeah, I mean, and then the experts said. 116 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:29.720 Just let it pass. 117 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.120 Don't point at me. I know it's justin you. 118 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:35.879 Okay. So now I have a red question on that. 119 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:39.199 So as a vet, if you looked at that X ray, like, 120 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.160 how do you know the glass isn't going to rip 121 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:44.399 his stomach? And say let it pass? I mean, obviously 122 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:46.480 you know that where we would be like, oh my god. 123 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.800 But it's a common question people people really freak out 124 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:55.560 of Sure, we've seen dogs and cats swallow needles, razor blades, glass. Sure, 125 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:57.839 a lot of times it can pass as long as 126 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:01.839 it doesn't form an obstruction. Okay, the basically, the intestines 127 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:03.839 are just a tube of muscle and they just want 128 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.920 things along. If they're able to do that, it's the 129 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:12.160 g I tract is pretty resilient and can pass. 130 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:14.560 Think that because I would think as it passed it 131 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.839 would cut, it'd make cuts. It doesn't. 132 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.920 Surprisingly, if a cat or a dog swallows a piece 133 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.480 of thread, uh huh, that's usually more devastating on the 134 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:26.360 g I track. 135 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:27.839 Because it's the stomach. 136 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:29.399 And then as it moves along it acts like a 137 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:31.959 little saw versus a piece of glass that just kind 138 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:33.959 of moves along. Maybe because a little irritation. 139 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:37.199 I would never think that. That's why I'm not a vet. 140 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:40.079 My cat ate a needle and thread. 141 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.759 Well, the needle I can understand, but I mean, but 142 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.199 the thread tongue and oh boy. 143 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.439 Passid and it was coming out of both ends and 144 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.120 thankfully surgery at a MCD. 145 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:57.560 Wow, there was no at the time. Wow, But okay, 146 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.240 so now it's a string that's different than grass because 147 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.800 I know sometimes my last dog used to eat grass 148 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.079 and then sometimes if he was like going nuts like 149 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:07.480 salad bar this, it would be like, okay, I'm kind 150 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.040 of like pulling it out of his book, you know. Gross. 151 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:11.959 But if you're you're a dog owner, you know what 152 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:12.680 I'm talking about. 153 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:15.000 Yeah, growing tinsel for us? 154 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.480 Yes, yes, yes, I've heard of that. 155 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.279 Oh it's Christmas ye stars poop and tinsel. 156 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:26.279 But that's not as bad as like a thread or 157 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.480 because it's grass, because it's natural. 158 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:32.160 Right, and it's softer and it's shorter from the thread 159 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:34.959 can be really long and get anchored under the tongue 160 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.279 and then really it makes its way all the way 161 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:38.839 down to the polee. 162 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:42.439 Yeah, no, that makes sense, It makes it's It just 163 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:45.199 always makes me laugh about dogs because I know more 164 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.519 about dogs than cats. But I think dogs are so 165 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:50.879 smart and then they'll do something like that and I'm like, 166 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:52.279 you're a dog. 167 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:54.319 Are smarter than others? 168 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:57.879 Yes, that's true, and we can't say it, but is 169 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:00.000 it true that well, it's probably just more of an opinion. 170 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.879 In fact, are certain breeds actually smarter than others. Yes, 171 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:08.319 it's definitely it's not it is okay, all right, all right, 172 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.920 I'm not talking, I'm going to but yeah, right, because 173 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.319 everybody thinks that their dog is the smartest, do you 174 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:15.959 know that, or the cutest, and of course we should, 175 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:17.959 we should think our own dogs are the cutest, correct, 176 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:20.639 but there are It's true though, right, certain breeds are smarter. 177 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:22.879 I knew it. 178 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:24.040 You heard it here. 179 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.319 And I'm voting it's the mixed breeds. 180 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:30.800 Oh yeah, I would believe that. Oh yes, because you 181 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.480 get the you get the best of both worlds, right, like, 182 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:35.960 you know, you get the better genes from the smart 183 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:36.799 and smart. 184 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.720 I mean you know sort of your parents aren't related, 185 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:39.679 it's got to be better. 186 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:43.759 Well that would be true to mus rule anyway. Yeah, 187 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:47.320 and MutS are the best, right. We love months, we do. 188 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:50.440 That's why this is Maria's mutts and stuff. We're here, 189 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.039 that's right. Okay, So we're getting into November or it 190 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:56.639 is November, and you have a big this is a 191 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.759 big month, spay and new iter months. So let's talk 192 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:03.320 about that because I know over the years, the numbers 193 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.399 are just incredible to me that people still think and 194 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.519 I guess it's because we should all think that our 195 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.519 dogs and cats are the best and the cutest and 196 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.519 the most adorable and let's make more. But more cats 197 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.919 and dogs are not needed in the world, right, So 198 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.440 what do you think it is about people not wanting 199 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.519 to spay and neuter their dog? And I know you 200 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.919 probably all have your own opinions, So let's like, what 201 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:28.039 do you think it is, Kathy. 202 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:30.559 I think it's a little bit of what you're saying 203 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.080 that they are like, Oh, my dog is so cute. 204 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.000 I would love to see what their puppies would look like, 205 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:39.240 the kittens would look like, Oh, my neighbor has the 206 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:42.600 female and I have the male, and or it could 207 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:47.240 be a money producing greeds. Yeah, so it could be 208 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.799 for so many reasons. Some people worry about the actual 209 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.840 spain neuter is going to change the dog or cat's personality. 210 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:55.600 Oh my god, I've heard that a million times and 211 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:57.440 that's not true, not true at all. 212 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:02.120 And I think that it's so layered for people. You know, 213 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.360 I don't want to go there, but I think sometimes 214 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:07.519 it could be a little bit of a male connection 215 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:08.120 to a male. 216 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:09.120 I've heard that too. 217 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:12.320 Yes, Yeah, so there's a lot of things that I 218 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:13.840 think make people. 219 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.759 Some of it is cost. It's expensive sometimes, yeah. 220 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.919 Definitely an investment. Sure, and people weigh it out and 221 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.440 they say, well, my dog or cat's not going to 222 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:28.039 be around another dog or cat. Why would I bother? 223 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:29.919 Right, But then they don't. 224 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:32.679 Think about the health concerns. Sure, they don't think about 225 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.440 if their dog or cat gets. 226 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:36.519 Out right, right, right? Sure? 227 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:41.120 That so a lot of it is education and making 228 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.440 people wear the importance of it. 229 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:43.759 Right. 230 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:47.440 It's so multi layered, and in the end, your dog 231 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:49.360 or cat is going to be better for it. 232 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:53.480 Sure. And I mean I know sometimes and people have 233 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:54.879 said it, and I'm sure all of you have heard 234 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:56.879 it where people but I'll ask you, doctor Brett, that 235 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.679 people say, oh, well, you know, it's not healthy for 236 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:04.480 me to neuter my dog and it's going to cause 237 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.440 cancer for him to not be neutered. But that's not true. 238 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:13.000 The bottom line is early spaying or neutering can be 239 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:17.639 huge not only hugely beneficial, but from a cost perspective, 240 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:21.440 having to spay or neuter them when they're older, when 241 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:23.519 they have when they've developed a problem, let's say a 242 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:27.399 testicular tumor or a piometer which is an infected uterus. 243 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:32.159 The cost, the costs sure way higher of course, plus 244 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.360 the medical risk for that patient when they're young and 245 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.320 they're healthy and it's an elective procedure in and out. 246 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:39.600 Yes, they could. 247 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:42.639 Be in the hospital for days and on multiple medications, 248 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:46.799 and their their chance of not making it actually you know, 249 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.080 increases as they get older, right. 250 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:52.360 Right, Basically it's people need to spay and neuter. Like 251 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.240 what other myths are there that we can tell people 252 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:57.120 that's not true? 253 00:11:57.559 --> 00:11:59.799 I mean, you know, I think maybe also another important 254 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:03.440 thing to falsehoods is that you know, I think often 255 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.480 I think right now, we have a lot of people 256 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:08.000 who are interested in it. For us, we're interested in 257 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:11.679 the procedure, and the problem is that it is too 258 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:14.519 expensive for so like I do think, you know, the 259 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.320 education is out there, and I think, but I think 260 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.879 the problem is that we're telling everyone's spay neuter, but 261 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:23.559 then we're not really giving them affordable option, right, yeah, 262 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:26.639 and so you know, like you know, I think the 263 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:29.879 average cost of a dog's bay might be eight to 264 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:31.559 eight hundred to one thousand. 265 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:32.600 Dollars, which is very expensive. 266 00:12:32.759 --> 00:12:35.799 Yeah, you know, because a lot of our clients make 267 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:37.519 forty thousand dollars a year. 268 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:40.559 Right, No, that's expensive, that's like their rent, that's you know, 269 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:42.600 groceries and everything else. Yeah. 270 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:46.720 So we at any given time probably have one hundred 271 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.320 and fifty people on a waiting list to find a. 272 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.200 Spot, right. That's a lot. Yeah, yeah, so, and. 273 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:53.799 I think, I mean, I think it's great that the 274 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:55.879 education has you know, and I think that's another thing 275 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.759 that comes up at our clinics. And another reason we 276 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.159 love doing that is that we give that people that 277 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.559 personal interaction with their medical team m hm. And somebody 278 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:05.759 who's maybe on the fence, right is going to leave 279 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:09.320 that day, and sure they're going to be convinced that 280 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:10.559 that's what they need to do. 281 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:12.559 Sure, No, that makes sense. 282 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:15.480 I'm always I'm always amazed when when a dog comes 283 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:20.320 in for piometra, you know, the infected uterus. The clients 284 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:23.039 will oftentimes ask could I prevented this? 285 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:25.320 And you're like, yeah, I have to kind. 286 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:28.240 Of bite my tongue like of course, but they just 287 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.639 don't know you can prevent it by having them spade 288 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.639 early on. Sure, so no uterus, no infection right right? 289 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.600 Right? Yeah, I guess I don't know. I mean, you know, 290 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:41.279 I always say and I know it's mean to say it, 291 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:44.960 but that I think sometimes just like people, I think 292 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:47.120 sometimes not everybody should be a parent, right, So I 293 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.320 think people need to take a test, just a little 294 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.159 test to see if you are okay to But I 295 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.080 feel the same way about having a cat or a 296 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:56.200 dog because I think something like that, Yes, you could 297 00:13:56.200 --> 00:13:58.879 have prevented it if you did something that was so simple. 298 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:01.879 And I know many you know, there's you can find 299 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.960 low cost spaying and neutering. So I don't know, not 300 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:07.720 that people should take a test or have a light. 301 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:09.720 I mean, you can get a dog license or but 302 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:11.919 I think sometimes you might need to take a test. 303 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.360 But that's just me. I know it's a little extreme, 304 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:15.919 but no, I would. 305 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:16.279 Agree with that. 306 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.840 Yeah, thank you, thank you, Kathy, thank you. Don't you think? Yes, 307 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:21.919 I mean I see people do stuff on the street 308 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.080 with their dogs and I'm like, oh my, I'm not 309 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.240 going to say anything because just because but the people 310 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:30.759 are just really stupid, and I think, you know, I 311 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:34.519 hope you never reproduce because you know you're not handling 312 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.639 that dog very well a human or correct correct. So 313 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:40.919 tell me what is positive tails doing for spee and 314 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:41.559 neuter month? 315 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:44.919 I don't even know if November is spay or newt 316 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:45.960 or not. But we're making it. 317 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.120 Yes you are, yes, yes, well that's what I meant 318 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.399 for you. No, I don't know if it is either. No, 319 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.559 it's you. Yes, no, you are starting it. 320 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:58.639 Yes, we are doing a spae and neuterrathon. And I 321 00:14:58.639 --> 00:15:00.320 I think we came upon the idea of just because 322 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.440 of you hear about all the adoptathons, and sure, amazing 323 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:05.279 that is when you hear those numbers. Yeah, but then 324 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:08.279 of course there's still going to always be in plenty 325 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:10.559 of animals to adopt. But let's get to the heart 326 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:13.960 of the issue, right and make less cats and dogs 327 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:14.960 that do need homes. 328 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:15.399 Correct. 329 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.840 And so what we're doing is we are partnering with 330 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.720 at this point, we probably have about thirty clinics in 331 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:27.000 the city. That's awesome, donating forty of those procedures. 332 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:30.679 That's very nice record. Wow, that's nice. 333 00:15:31.240 --> 00:15:34.559 So what we're partingering with all these private clinics who 334 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:38.720 aren't giving us spots so either for free are extremely 335 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:39.679 low costs. 336 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.120 Right, so, which is very important. Yeah, I mean that's all. 337 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.279 Over the city, So based on where people are located, 338 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.120 we're something them to different spots, and original goal is 339 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:49.600 to do one hundred, but now we're going to do 340 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:52.720 We're off to like well over two hundred's point. 341 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:53.559 That's awesome. 342 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:55.720 So and hopefully maybe we'll make it to three. 343 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:58.600 That's great. So, Now, if someone who's listening and who's 344 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.360 in the area, can they see like where the clinics 345 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.399 are by going to positive tails dot org or they 346 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.000 would contact us or just contact you. 347 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:08.320 Yeah, we would, and we have an application where Okay, 348 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:12.519 because we are targeting people who financially need. 349 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:15.080 Us, how would they contact you or get in touch? 350 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:16.679 Yeah, they mean they could get in touch on our 351 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.919 website or and there will be our email and our 352 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.759 phone number, and okay, send them our application which takes 353 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:24.440 about three minutes to fill out. 354 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:26.919 Oh, that's great, okay, and that's a positive tails dot 355 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:31.039 org correct, Yes, okay. So the other part about spaying 356 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:33.279 and neutering that we didn't really touch on, and I 357 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.679 think a lot of people don't think about it, is 358 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:40.000 the fact that dogs and cats get euthanized. Right, So 359 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.799 let's you know, let's talk a little bit not about 360 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:44.679 the horrors of it, but the fact that it is 361 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.679 a fact, and people, I think don't think about. 362 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.639 It, well I don't. I think they don't want to. 363 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:51.440 They don't want to. 364 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:52.120 They want to. 365 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.320 See the cute puppies and cute kittens or even the 366 00:16:55.320 --> 00:16:58.639 adult dogs and cats, but they don't want to think 367 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:01.320 about the fact that if they go buy a dog 368 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.519 right instead of going to the local shelter rescue group, 369 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:09.599 there's there are finite resources currently, especially in New York City, 370 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:14.119 and resources finite space. So the older or maybe the 371 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.720 ones with the chronic illnesses that could otherwise be managed. Sure, 372 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:20.440 they're being put to sleep, and you know, we use 373 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.920 terms like put to sleep because it makes people feel better, but. 374 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:28.160 They're killed, correct, which is sad terrible? Yeah, no, it's 375 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.240 very sad. And I think people don't think about that. 376 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.680 And I think people think, oh, well, we can just 377 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.000 drop it off at you know, a shelter or rescue, 378 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:39.119 and many of them won't take it. Like I know 379 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.359 that happens at springtime when all the cats and all 380 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.960 the kiddies are being born and people what do I 381 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.839 do with them? Well, why didn't you know, why didn't 382 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:48.599 you spay your kid your cat? 383 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:49.039 Right? 384 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.559 Or the holidays where it's a great idea to open 385 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.319 up a gift and it's a living creature. Worse thing, 386 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.640 it's a dog or a cat that needs to be 387 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:03.279 cared for. And then you know they lose interests after 388 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.920 the holidays. Well we'll just bring to the shelter, and 389 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.000 they just tell themselves that the dog or cat will 390 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:08.640 be adopted. 391 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:09.839 And that's not always the case. 392 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.039 It's not always the case. It's not always the case. 393 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:14.200 And I know in the sense in the fact with 394 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:17.359 the city shelters, like I know people who don't realize 395 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:19.839 that they don't have a choice because they're city shelters. 396 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:21.759 And it's like that around the country. A city shelter 397 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.160 has to take the cats and dogs even if they 398 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.640 don't have the room, So how are they going to 399 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:31.680 make room? They have to euthanize, And people don't think 400 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:33.799 about that, want to think about it, but it's really 401 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.880