WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:06.639 Astonishing Legends Network Disclaimer. This episode includes the usual amount 2 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:09.560 of adult language and graphic discussions you've come to expect 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:12.480 around here, but in the event it becomes an unusual amount, 4 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:14.240 expect another call from me. 5 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:17.480 Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Scarett All the time. I'm 6 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.440 Chris Klari, I'm Ed Vicola, and this week we are 7 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:24.679 kicking off our season two Summer of Fear with a 8 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.679 trip to the beach, and not a fun beach. This 9 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:30.559 is a very scary beach because all of a sudden, 10 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.600 when you look out towards the horizon, there doesn't seem 11 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:36.840 to be much water here. The seabed looks dry for 12 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:39.280 a mile or two. Fish are flopping in the sun, 13 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:43.320 and that can only mean one thing. Somewhere out beyond 14 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.560 that horizon, A massive wave is building up steam and 15 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.679 when it gets here, there's going to be trouble. This 16 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:53.560 week we're talking tsunamis one of the most terrifying ways 17 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:55.479 nature has come up with to kill a lot of 18 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:58.759 people at the same time, Faster than a hurricane, bigger 19 00:00:58.759 --> 00:01:02.399 than an earthquake by orders of magnitude, the single deadliest 20 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:06.120 category of natural disasters in the twenty first century, so far. 21 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:08.640 If you manage to ride the wave all the way 22 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:10.359 to the end of this episode with us, you're gonna 23 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.439 get some very very bad news about a seven hundred 24 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:15.519 mile fault line off the west coast of the United 25 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.400 States that is one of the world's most dangerous ticking 26 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:20.599 time bombs. But before we get to all that, I 27 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:23.280 should mention ed and I are not alone on this 28 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.760 doomed beach today. Today, we've got Cassidy and Amanda from 29 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.519 the Drinking the kool Aid podcast to keep us company 30 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.239 as we all flee that incoming wall of water moving 31 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:35.319 faster than a seven forty seven. So take the higher 32 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:37.359 ground with us and make sure your phone is fully 33 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.480 charged so the episode does not stop halfway through the 34 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.400 Summer of Fear is about to begin? 35 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:49.319 What are we screed? When are we all the times? 36 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:50.040 Now? 37 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:50.799 Which is time? 38 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:56.640 Full time God Scan? All right, guys, welcome back to 39 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:58.920 the show. Before we hit the waves, I want to 40 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.280 take a second to introduce our guests for this episode. 41 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:06.560 We have Cassidy and Amanda from Drinking the kool Aid Podcast. 42 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.360 Thank you so much for joining us. 43 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.280 Thank you so much for having us. We're excited to 44 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:10.599 be here. 45 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:13.560 You folks have a very funny podcast and they cover 46 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.680 lots of scary and weird topics like we do. So 47 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:20.240 if you want to go check them out after this episode, 48 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:21.159 where can they find you? 49 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:21.520 Guys? 50 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.759 You can find us at Drinking the kool Aid podcast 51 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:29.240 on Instagram or really anywhere social media wise, but you 52 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:31.520 can find us anywhere you listen to your podcast just 53 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.879 Drinking the kool Aid. Kool Aid all one word. 54 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.280 And needs two have been at this a lot longer 55 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:36.759 than we have. 56 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:40.000 I mean, their studios so nice. Their studio is so nice. 57 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.680 We just recorded some episodes or not some episodes we guessed. 58 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.080 I don't like it. 59 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.560 We were there for a while today recording. They've got 60 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.280 hundreds and hundreds of episodes out. So when this is 61 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:52.080 over and you're like, damn, I need to hear more, 62 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.120 you know, wherever you're listening to this show, go listen 63 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.800 to their show. So before you do that, though, let's 64 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:03.879 talk tsunamis. I assume most people are probably familiar with 65 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.439 the basics of a tsunami. It is really just a 66 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:09.199 big wave. But Ed, I never know what you will 67 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:11.560 or won't know on this show, So we'll start with 68 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.439 the basics to make sure that we are all on 69 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:17.319 the same page. According to the US Geographic Service, quote, 70 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:20.879 tsunamis are ocean waves triggered by a variety of things, 71 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.039 from large earthquakes that occur near or under the ocean, 72 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.199 to volcanic eruptions to submarine landslides, by which I think 73 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:31.680 they mean landslides that occur sub. 74 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.120 Beneath the waves. I thought that was when I first 75 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.800 read out all those submarines are coming down the hill. 76 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:37.520 That's what I thought. 77 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:40.639 I was imagining a pile of submarines landsliding. But I 78 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:43.599 think they mean almost like sub mariner landslides. 79 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:45.039 But sure that didn't help me at all. I mean, 80 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:46.159 I have a superhero my head. 81 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:50.360 Even on shore landslides that throw large volumes of debris 82 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.800 into the water can cause tsunamis because all of these 83 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.439 events displace mind bogglingly immense amounts of water, and that 84 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.199 water has to go somewhere, oftentimes racing out in all 85 00:04:02.199 --> 00:04:07.120 directions to collide with the nearest shoreline. Scientists don't use 86 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.400 the term title wave when describing Sonama. 87 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:11.759 I remember title waves, I do. They were a thing 88 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:13.240 for a minute. I feel like that was a term 89 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:13.639 i'd hurt. 90 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.399 Tidle wave is definitely something I've heard before. Also like 91 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:18.360 rogue wave, but that's a different thing. 92 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:20.480 Okay it is, and we're actually going to talk about 93 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.839 rogue waves in a minute. I don't know why title 94 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:25.000 waves got so popular in. 95 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.319 I don't know. It's a sudden the language change in 96 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:28.920 the nineties. 97 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:32.439 I feel like, like Hershey Park has a water ride 98 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.000 called Title Force, or like a tide typhoon lagoons. 99 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.360 I'll get into. That's my first getting hurt by a wave. 100 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:40.319 I was gonna say. I feel like tidle wave was 101 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:42.560 the name of my local water parks, like the wave 102 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:43.920 pool was called tidal wave. 103 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:47.639 Yeah, and there are tidal waves. They are giant waves 104 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:49.480 caused by the tides. 105 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:51.839 But nowhere near as big as a soon nowhere near 106 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:53.720 as big or as dangerous as I do like a 107 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:55.879 theme park, that's like, we're not going to be able 108 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.360 to do like tsunami size rides. 109 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:02.079 Let's just well, especially after the title two thousand and four, 110 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:03.879 you can't be calling anything tsunami. 111 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:07.319 We're going to get into it, don't worry. I got 112 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:08.000 some thoughts. 113 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:12.240 But unlike typical ocean waves that are generated by wind 114 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:18.279 and storms, tsunamis don't break the way that curling wind 115 00:05:18.360 --> 00:05:21.759 generated waves that are popular with surfers do. So you know, 116 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.279 when you picture a big wave, you're picturing that curl. 117 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:28.319 That is not a tsunami at all. No curl tsunami, 118 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:28.759 no curl. 119 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.439 Okay, there you go. Now you know the women. 120 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:33.560 Now I don't even I genuinely don't know what I'm 121 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:35.759 looking at now. Then it's just a big like a 122 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:37.600 mountain moving like it's a roll. 123 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:39.519 Yeah, it's more of a wall. 124 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.040 Wall Again, only anyone who saw it lived. 125 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:47.000 We well to ask, we should say, I guess we've learned. 126 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.279 Something we learned earlier today talking to Cassidy is that 127 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.040 Cassidy is a big weatherhead. 128 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:53.120 Weahead crazy. 129 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:57.519 Tsunamis aren't really weather, but they are natural disasters. And 130 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.040 I feel like there's a lot of crossovers. So I 131 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:02.439 feel like on this uppisode, Cassidy is gonna have some 132 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:04.800 knowledge to drop, and you're gonna have a lot to 133 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:05.319 learn ed. 134 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:07.759 I will say, if you're watching this episode, she will 135 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:09.079 be covered behind your hand. 136 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:11.600 Because I'm waving all I said, I've only seen. 137 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:17.319 That's how I like to keep it personally. Listen, it's 138 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:17.920 never good. 139 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:19.759 I mean, that's probably why I had all the things 140 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:21.839 set up the way they were. Amanda. I feel like 141 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:22.959 we step on your. 142 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:28.560 Yeah, something you did something. Cassidy also loves more than 143 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.160 anything in the entire world is the ocean. 144 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:35.040 So she yes, that's an unusual around here. 145 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:38.560 Really, most people hear ocean they go Whenever we have 146 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.319 guests like what we want to talk about what scares you, 147 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:41.360 it's almost always ocean. 148 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:42.160 Well that scares me. 149 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:43.480 There you go. Perfect. 150 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.959 So I have had the tsunami nightmare though before, where 151 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:48.439 you're on a beach and you can't get off and 152 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.120 you can see the wall of water coming. That's like 153 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:51.800 a that's like a reoccurring nightmare. 154 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.439 I have had. I have that as well. 155 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.120 I I uh later in the episode, I thought it 156 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:58.680 would be very clever to call it a tsunami to nightmare. 157 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.199 But I feel like we're jumping the gun and we'll 158 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:03.879 get to it right now. I have that nightmare. I 159 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:07.240 also have a similar nightmare about knowing that a nuclear 160 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.519 explosion has happened and like seeing the wall of like light, 161 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:12.680 which would never if you actually were caught near a 162 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.680 nuclear explosion pretty fast, Yeah, you wouldn't see any movement, 163 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.439 but that there must be something about that, like the 164 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:20.839 tension of seeing your death coming. 165 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:22.879 Maybe our therapist should hang out sometime. 166 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:28.079 They would uncover so many weird things talking about what 167 00:07:28.120 --> 00:07:29.800 we are afraid of. But that's what we're here to 168 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.240 do on this show. So I thought tsunamis were a 169 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:34.399 good topic to kick off the summer of year, because 170 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.639 while tsunamis are not explicitly a summer thing, they can 171 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.839 happen any time of year. No place gets to me 172 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.519 thinking about them, like the beach, which is not a 173 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.120 place ED or I really go. When you guys live 174 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.079 near a beach, I don't want to dox you. 175 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:48.639 We do. 176 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:51.399 We both live like within a mile of the beach, 177 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:55.680 and we've actually we had a tsunami warning last year, 178 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.519 did we? Because there was an earthquake, I mean parts 179 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:01.720 and member part of Russia Japan got it really bad. 180 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.639 I didn't know because tsunamis are so random, you really 181 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.680 don't know until it's hello, you know. So we were 182 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.839 on a tsunami warning. We did end up just having 183 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.680 like really really high tide is basically what it resulted in, 184 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:15.720 and really bad riptide. So they're like, just don't go 185 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:17.360 in the ocean for like three days because it was 186 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:20.240 really strong. But yeah, we have. If you walk around 187 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:23.639 the area that we live, there are tsunami disaster paths 188 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:26.360 like go this way if you hear get away from 189 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:28.040 the beach, like this is the way to go? Is 190 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:28.879 there heroes? 191 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:31.519 Do you guys know is there like a specific. 192 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:34.879 Like warning app or warning alarms that you have near 193 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.080 the beach? Like do you get a heads up? 194 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:42.559 Or is it just I feel like I remember something alerting? 195 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:44.679 We got to push notification on a phone and it 196 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:45.600 basically said. 197 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:47.200 Sounds like you took it really seriously. 198 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:50.320 Yeah, well no, I. 199 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:50.360 I took it too serious. 200 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:52.919 Story soon for when. 201 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.399 Things like that happen, I immediately text Castidy and I'm like, 202 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:58.480 am I gonna die? Like what are we gonna do? 203 00:08:58.679 --> 00:08:59.960 Like what do I have to do? 204 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:00.840 Get my car and drive away? 205 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:01.840 Like what am I doing? 206 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:05.720 And She'll either be like maybe or that's. 207 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:06.279 A lot of pressure. 208 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:08.080 You're now responsible for two lives. 209 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.120 Yeah, I just figure, you know, if I'm going to 210 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:11.039 go out, she's going out too. 211 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:11.320 You know. 212 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:14.480 If I'm not fleeing, she does, she's not allowed to 213 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:15.480 flee personally. 214 00:09:15.639 --> 00:09:16.919 Well, I just need to know if I need to 215 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:19.720 like pack up my animals and get the fuck out 216 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:20.879 of here because I will. 217 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:23.960 Well, no, we got like a push notification through Apple, 218 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:25.600 and I think we got a text from the city 219 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.519 being like, don't go to the beach if you know, 220 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.480 if you live by the bluff, stay on the bluff. 221 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:32.679 There was tons of flooding. There's an area in Long 222 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:36.000 Beach that is a peninsula that flooded like crazy, like 223 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:39.399 people's homes flooded. You know, the water was in the streets, right, 224 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.960 But we live up more like on like the bluff area, 225 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.200 so obviously we're higher ground. 226 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:49.519 R Well, the USGS, the US Geological Service, notes that 227 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:51.639 you want to hear about my story. Oh yeah, I 228 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:53.360 do want to hear about I'll give my. 229 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:55.799 You know, this story, the tsunami story where I got 230 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:58.399 a fucking alert on the Amazon robot. 231 00:09:58.679 --> 00:09:59.879 So I was like, what's the. 232 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.480 I know the story, but the audience doesn't. That's why 233 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:04.240 you're talking it to a microphone. 234 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:07.159 Well, I'm just saying that, like, uh, that's it. I 235 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:10.440 I woke up, I was blurred, like fucking tired. It 236 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:12.159 was early in the morning and I got had an alert. 237 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:14.240 You know, I can get notifications on the Amazon robot 238 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:18.080 and it's like it was like, hey alert, IM like 239 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.759 I know or anything. What's the alert little machine? And 240 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.000 it was like tsunami warning in effect for and it. 241 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.399 Said my zip code. I don't live anywhere near the 242 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:27.039 fucking beach. 243 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.440 And so I was like, what, Like in my brain, 244 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:31.720 I was like, this is the I don't live It 245 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.000 must be the biggest wave in the world. Yeah, because 246 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:36.360 that's where my brain went. I'm like, if I'm getting 247 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:37.759 a warning right now, that. 248 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:39.919 Is that is we awoke in me as I'm like, hey, 249 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:40.600 there's a warning. 250 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.840 Yeah, yeah, you're like Santa Monk has already gone. 251 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.639 So I got in my car and drove east. I 252 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.080 just got and didn't didn't ask anything else about it. 253 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.000 I was just like, oh, if they're not on the 254 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:52.000 roador ready, they're fucking. 255 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:53.440 Idiots, Well thank god you have my phone number now. 256 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:54.039 Yeah now. 257 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:55.440 But I just got in and I was like, there's 258 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:57.159 other things I could do out there anyway. So I 259 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.039 just drove all the way to like sam Berndino. I 260 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.279 just went into like the wall out there, did some stuff, 261 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:02.080 and then I like. 262 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.000 Went on figuring what this giant wall of water was 263 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.799 gonna come fifteen miles in land and you drive home 264 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:08.519 later that night. 265 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:12.200 I thought, I just didn't want to be here, as 266 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:14.679 I I've seen that movie. I didn't want to be here, 267 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.200 and so I'm like, ah, man, so anyway, that's a 268 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:19.240 true story. It's like an embarrassing story. But I I 269 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:21.080 found at things to do out there. But I just 270 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:24.000 got in the car being like my stupid brain was like, 271 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:27.200 if I'm being told about this to your point, like 272 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:28.480 it's way there are those. 273 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:29.039 Cities are gone. 274 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:30.440 Yeah, there's no. 275 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:34.279 No even why would them given a notification twenty miles inland? 276 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:36.679 Yeah unless so I took it very seriously and so 277 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:38.159 I for like thirty minutes. 278 00:11:38.240 --> 00:11:40.159 It was an error, I would imagine. Yeah, I went 279 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:41.679 on the internet and it was nobody talking about it. 280 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:45.879 I don't know what the situation was, but I followed 281 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.480 it disorders exactly. 282 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:50.080 I had sort of the inverse of a tsunami panic. 283 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.120 So I don't think I knew what a tsunami was 284 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:55.840 until I saw the nineteen ninety eight classic Deep Impact. Yeah, 285 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.360 which has is most people might know is not a 286 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:03.000 tsunami movie. It's an asteroid movie. But the end of 287 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.679 the movie is really about the tsunami that the asteroid 288 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:10.519 causes and it comes into like North Carolina, like it 289 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:12.440 comes like way West Virginia or something. 290 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:14.440 I mean, I learned I made sure to learn to 291 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:16.759 drive a dirt bike because of that movie. Yeah, dirt 292 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.720 bikes can't take you to higher ground, yeah. 293 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:20.519 Yeah, and you can dip around traffic. 294 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.399 Yeah, come on, do you have a dirt bike? 295 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:26.360 Brothers, I didn't personally own one or anything, but well, 296 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.759 you're building the time. But I mean, yeah, I'm building 297 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:30.519 the moped. But I'm saying like at the time, I 298 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:34.120 was young in those I had access to those with family, 299 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:36.320 and so I was like, I'm gonna make sure I 300 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.279 know how to ride this ship. 301 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:39.879 Yeah, you're like, this is the one thing I need 302 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.039 for my disaster preparedness kit exactly see dirt bike riding skills. 303 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:44.440 And then I got older and it was just never 304 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:46.120 a situation where I'd have room for a dirt bike 305 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:50.679 or money for one or anything. Also, it's a useless 306 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.399 skill unless everyone else dies from. 307 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:53.799 The wave and I take their dirt bike. 308 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:56.720 Well, when I saw that movie, I was also young, 309 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:59.720 but I was recovering from an oral surgery and I'm 310 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.919 drugs and pain meds, and there's shots in that movie 311 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:04.519 where like, I don't want to say it was one 312 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:06.000 of the first movies, because it probably wasn't, but it's 313 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.320 one of the first movies. I remember where they put 314 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:11.200 cable news in the movie, like with Wolf Blitzer on 315 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.720 CNN and stuff. And I was like, hi, on pain 316 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:18.600 meds for the first time in my life, and very 317 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.759 confused for a little bit about what was real and 318 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:22.639 what wasn't. And then the wave happened and I was 319 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.639 super scared. And then I basically forgot about tsunamis until 320 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:30.720 the earthquake in Japan in twenty eleven, and I was online. 321 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.240 I was on Facebook in the middle of the night 322 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:36.679 or like whatever time it was midnight here, and we 323 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.240 have a friend who went to college with who was 324 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:43.200 living in Japan at the time, and he was posting 325 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:45.200 about this giant earthquake and I was like, oh my god, 326 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.519 that sounds really scary, and there was some videos of it, 327 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:50.639 and then I started seeing all these tsunami warnings pop 328 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.720 up and about how it wasn't just gonna hit Japan, 329 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:55.399 that there was a tsunami was gonna hit the west 330 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.799 coast of America. Keep in mind I was living in 331 00:13:57.799 --> 00:13:59.600 West Hollywood at the time, but I. 332 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:00.639 Might rain went. 333 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.240 I didn't get a warning, but my brain went to, 334 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:05.039 oh my god, I need to get the fuck out 335 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:05.320 of here. 336 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:06.919 Like, you're even closer to the beach than I was. 337 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:10.039 It was still, however, ten miles inland, and probably I 338 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.759 don't know what the elevation there is, but hundreds, if 339 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.519 not thousands of feet higher than the than the oat, 340 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:17.799 than the beach. And so I was like, do I 341 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:19.080 need to pack a bag? Do we need to get 342 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:19.840 the fuck out of here? 343 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:20.000 Like? 344 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:22.879 And then at some point I became aware. I don't 345 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:25.000 know if I was googling or what, but I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, 346 00:14:25.039 --> 00:14:27.080 I'm okay. Like I didn't go go far inland. 347 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:27.720 I didn't google. 348 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.559 In question, if you're not in the car, you're a 349 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:30.679 man of action, of action? 350 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:34.919 Yeah, well last day I did that. I don't I'm 351 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:35.600 not a man of action. 352 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:38.720 But anything else going to gym buying stuff that I'm 353 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:39.639 low with low on. 354 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.000 But you did the right thing, sort of, because the 355 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:44.919 US Geological Service notes that a rule of thumb is 356 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.159 that if you see the tsunami, it is too late 357 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.759 to outrun it, oh no, or as an article we 358 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:51.000 were going to touch on at the end of the 359 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:55.039 episode puts it quote among natural disasters, tsunamis maybe the 360 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:57.679 closest to being completely unsurvivable. 361 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:00.000 The only likely way to outlive. 362 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:02.480 One is to not be there when it happens. So 363 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:08.639 they are extremely dangerous, and I guess it's good to 364 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:11.000 know that all four of us to some degree have 365 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:14.840 either had an experience with one or are sufficiently afraid 366 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:15.159 of them. 367 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.240 Well, what's that movie with Natalie Nailmi Watts. 368 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.039 It's a tsunami movie and it's some of the most 369 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:22.559 graphic fucked up. 370 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.240 Based on the two thousand and four Is that impossible? 371 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:26.639 The impossible or something like that. 372 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.279 I always just think of Day After Tomorrow. 373 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:31.879 I haven't seen all of it, but I had seen 374 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.080 like the one clip that not even on YouTube, it 375 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:38.000 was like on cable or something, and it was like, Oh, 376 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:41.320 that's the most horrific, graphic fucked up thing I've ever seen. 377 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:45.240 Yeah at that moment, Yeah, and I was just that 378 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:48.200 was in my brain when the warning came in, where 379 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:51.639 I was like every element of the little bit of 380 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:56.080 that movie I saw, like the post tsunami issue I 381 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.440 was like, I want to be nowhere fucking near this. 382 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.720 Well, yeah, because the tsunami self is destructive, the aftermath 383 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:03.399 is also horrible. 384 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.080 Also, the idea that, like, because it would happen the 385 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.360 mid of the night or late Yeah, the idea. 386 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:10.039 That you're asleep and all of a sudden, now you're underwater. Yeah, 387 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:10.480 I don't know. 388 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:12.600 If it's if it's sneaky like that, like could it 389 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:14.840 you just be asleep and now you're underwater. 390 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:16.720 Well, I don't know, but sleep and then you'd be dead. 391 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.039 I'm not sure. There's depending on where you are in 392 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.480 a moment you go, oh no water underwater. But that 393 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:22.000 freaks me out. 394 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:23.279 Man, Okay, well can I ask the question? 395 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:25.279 Yes, so on this show. 396 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:31.120 Doing it anyway. So the tsunami, big, big, big, big 397 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:32.960 wave like I'm assuming hundreds. 398 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:34.279 Feet high can be can be? 399 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:38.679 Depend and then it goes out from the ocean, yeah, 400 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:44.200 covers a bunch of houses land, and then just smacks down. 401 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:46.879 So it doesn't We're going to get to the physics 402 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.320 of a tsunami in a minute. It doesn't really smack down. 403 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:52.519 Because oh, it doesn't curl. 404 00:16:53.120 --> 00:17:00.480 So the etymology, the etymology of the word tsunami is actually, 405 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:02.600 I think one of the most basic things about these 406 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.279 natural disasters. It comes from the Japanese soup meaning harbor 407 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:10.160 and nami meaning wave, harbor wave, because that's where the 408 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:13.720 damage was always the worst. Out at sea. We'll get 409 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:14.960 to this in a bit too, But out at see, 410 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.119 you don't even notice the tsunami. They're not big giant 411 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.759 curling waves. They pass under your boat like regular water. 412 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:24.319 So ancient Japanese fishermen out at sea wouldn't even have 413 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.240 any an idea that anything was wrong. 414 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.160 I'm sorry for real, Yeah, they wouldn't have. So when 415 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:31.359 do you know something? How close to the land is 416 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:33.039 a guy to get before you see like a wall 417 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:34.519 of water. We're getting to that. 418 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.119 Confuses That's why I was like. 419 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:39.720 Waves, so I could be like on the water. And 420 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:41.880 then that's why. 421 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:44.039 Well, by the time so the fishermen would come back 422 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:46.279 and they wouldn't even a they wouldn't know that anything 423 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:48.000 was wrong. And by the time they got back to shore, 424 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.599 the waves have already receded, so they weren't in any danger. 425 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:53.799 They just found a wrecked town basically where a town 426 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:56.759 had once stood. So the Japanese got hit by the 427 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.559 tsunamis a lot, and they knew a lot about them, 428 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.599 and that'll come back into a story for us a. 429 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:02.319 Little bit later. 430 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:05.880 But before we get to that, and before we get 431 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.640 to the physics of it, I do think we should 432 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:13.279 mention that, yes, there are two modern, very famous, very 433 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:20.400 terrible tragedies that people are aware of that involves tsunamis Fukushima. 434 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:24.519 Fukushima was a tsunami. That it was the tsunami that 435 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:29.319 I was afraid of in California actually causing problems in Japan. 436 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:34.319 That earthquake was a nine point one magnitude earthquake, one 437 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:37.720 of the largest earthquakes ever recorded, and it took about 438 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:42.279 an hour for the wave that it created to smash inland. 439 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.799 And it would have been bad enough if the ninety 440 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:49.920 eight foot tall wave had only killed the eighteen to 441 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:53.079 twenty thousand people caught in its path, but it caused 442 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:56.000 a second disaster, which was crashing over the sea walls 443 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.240 that had been built around the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant, 444 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:02.440 where it round the backup generators in the basement of 445 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:06.319 the of the power plant and caused three reactor cores 446 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:09.480 to melt down within seventy two hours, creating a nuclear 447 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.319 disaster that will contaminate the entire area for the next 448 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:13.519 forty to fifty years. 449 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:20.039 I remember after this happened. I at the time was vegetarian, pescatarian, 450 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:21.559 and so I was eating a lot of fish, and 451 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:23.720 I remember everyone was like, stop eating fish right now. 452 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:25.799 Because the radiation that leaked into the water. 453 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.440 No one's talking about that, considering he said forty to 454 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:33.359 fifty years. I remember about that that month, But now 455 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:34.720 I feel like we're a couple of years out now. 456 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:37.160 No one's talking about three eyed sushi. 457 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.839 I don't know how far. I don't know how far 458 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:45.240 that radioactive water spreads around the disaster area water. I'm 459 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.240 sure no one's fishing in that area right now. 460 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.759 I don't think some of those fish got out, probably 461 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:52.240 effecting the other fish like zombies. 462 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:55.200 Well they're not fish biting other fish and turning them 463 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:55.920 into fukushini. 464 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:56.319 You know. 465 00:19:56.400 --> 00:19:57.839 Yeah, we don't spend enough time down there. 466 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.640 I mean, I guess anything could be happening. I do 467 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:05.480 think radioactive water probably could seep out in all directions, 468 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.640 But you're talking about such massive amounts of water that 469 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:12.119 I'm not sure. I'm sure somebody has studied the radius 470 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:14.319 of which you can be outside of and say this 471 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:14.759 is safe. 472 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.079 A number of times I've thought I'm sure someone studied, 473 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:18.799 and then in an episode of our show I find 474 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:19.799 out they fucking didn't. 475 00:20:20.559 --> 00:20:21.920 Like you were like, I don't know, We'll just see 476 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:22.319 what happens. 477 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.920 Yeah, it was really no one knew, just no one new. Well, 478 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:26.799 as a quick aside, if you want to know howtimes 479 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.839 fish kish other fish kish at your feet, I don't know. 480 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.359 This is a problems. We all been fish fish kiss 481 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.720 other fish sometimes fish fish in terms of radioactive and 482 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:37.400 you don't even know. 483 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:40.599 Oh my gosh, that would make an amazing flaming lip song. 484 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:44.559 Well, as a quick aside, I was gonna say, if 485 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:46.279 you want to see how the Japanese or some of 486 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:49.440 the Japanese feel about the way that their government handled 487 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.519 the Fukushima nuclear disaster, you should see a Godzilla movie 488 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:55.960 called sen Godzilla that came out I think in like 489 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:00.160 twenty sixteen. It is not only a great take on 490 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:04.200 the Godzilla design, but it is a really funny satire 491 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:08.240 about the Japanese government's inability to handle a crisis. And 492 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:10.720 while I think some of it's probably lost on me 493 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:14.759 not being Japanese, it is pretty obvious even to an 494 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:18.240 American viewer. It's sort of like if Armando Iannucci, who 495 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.880 did Veep, decide to make a Godzilla movie. It's super funny, 496 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:24.920 it's pretty scary, and the Godzilla is great, and I 497 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:26.799 think it gives you a sense of maybe how people 498 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:31.119 felt about how trustworthy the government was after that event. 499 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:32.240 So I'm sure there. 500 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:35.279 Have been some things that have maybe been whitewashed, the 501 00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:38.640 little or you know, we've been told don't be afraid, 502 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:39.839 and maybe we should be afraid. 503 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.680 The fish, the fish. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. Oh 504 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:44.799 my god, dud. The wonderfish is the only thing that 505 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.200 hasn't gone up in price because. 506 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:50.880 Because they're fishing, because they know I'm gonna cut the 507 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:54.839 sih img out. I don't want to sound like a 508 00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:55.839 nonsense person. 509 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:00.480 As ed noted years prior to this, disapur in two 510 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.319 thousand and four and even more devastating tsunami hit Indonesia, 511 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:07.680 which was also came in the wake of the third 512 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.319 largest earthquake ever recorded, tied in a nine point one 513 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.559 on the Richter scale. The fault the earthquake fault ruptured 514 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.480 along about seven hundred and fifty miles of seabed, which 515 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:21.880 is the longest fault rupture in human history. It shook 516 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.920 for about ten minutes, which is crazy because most earthquakes 517 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:27.880 only shake for thirty to sixty seconds. 518 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:28.160 Maybe. 519 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:30.640 Yeah, even sixty seconds is like feels like forever. So 520 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:32.160 I can't even imagine ten minutes. 521 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.519 I would lose my mind. 522 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:34.319 Yeah. 523 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:37.480 Like, actually, if you felt an earthquake that strong. 524 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.960 For ten minutes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it should be walking towards. 525 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:43.039 This, you would lose. 526 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:46.599 Yeah, at a certain point, you'd be like nine minutes. 527 00:22:46.599 --> 00:22:48.240 Any like, it's never gonna end then, yea, this is. 528 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.279 Never gonna end. This is life. There was life before 529 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:52.559 the shake, and now we just live in shake. Yeah. 530 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:55.519 Or the world's gonna split in fully in half. Yeah, 531 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:57.039 this group has been split in half by your hand 532 00:22:57.079 --> 00:22:57.880 the entire time. 533 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:01.680 According to Sky and Telescope maggaz quote, the Sumatra earthquake 534 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.319 released as much energy as four hundred and seventy five 535 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:08.200 mega tons of TNT, or about twenty three thousand times 536 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:10.920 the energy released by the atomic bomb dropped on Heroshiam. 537 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:12.480 It shifted. 538 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:14.519 It was such a powerful earthquake that it shifted the 539 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:18.000 planet's axis by about a centimeter, and scientists recorded evidence 540 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:22.359 that the entire planet vibrated up to about ten millimeters 541 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:23.559 during the quake. 542 00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:27.000 See that makes me. That makes me sick. Yeah, everything else, 543 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:29.960 I'm like, I can conceptualize that, but the idea of oh, yeah, 544 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.079 I forget that we're in space and we are our 545 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:34.400 own small object really just upset me right now. 546 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:36.480 Didn't trying to build a big dam or something. And 547 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.079 it also functions it up. I don't know what you're talking. 548 00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:40.279 I'll do we get into it. 549 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:43.640 The show notes and there's like man made stuff very 550 00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:46.559 recently that's just too big. And it also like adjusted 551 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:47.880 the axis or something like that. 552 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.319 But the idea, I think, I think to Cassidy's point, 553 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:54.240 the idea that the entire globe vibrated, you know, in 554 00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:58.079 multiple directions, even millimeters, does make you think, like, I 555 00:23:58.079 --> 00:24:00.279 don't even understand the physics of how that would have happened. 556 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:06.359 The Earth is suspended in space gravitational poll by the Sun, 557 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:09.880 and this quake was strong enough to break that poll. 558 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:13.319 Well, we're not technically suspended in space. We're flying through space. 559 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:16.359 Well sure, right, right right, So trying to imagine our 560 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:20.599 planet rotating, I was just up at at Griffith Park 561 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:22.480 Observatory the other day and they had a little model 562 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.799 of the seasons and they have the Earth rotating around 563 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:27.920 the Sun and it makes the full It goes the 564 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.079 whole way around the Sun in you know, two minutes 565 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.240 or whatever, and they have the Earth spinning at the 566 00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.319 speed that like a day would be when you fast 567 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:36.720 forward it that fast. And it was like, I mean, 568 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.119 the Earth is not spinning that fast, but to see 569 00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.680 it illustrated that way was crazy to see how many 570 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.000 times the Earth spins basically in a whole year, just 571 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:45.400 keeps fucking going. 572 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:47.480 And then to think about it, it's like three hundred 573 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:48.759 and sixty five times it is. 574 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.200 I do you guys remember Okay Cupid and they might 575 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.720 still be a yeah. So pre like the apps and stuff, 576 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.400 there was a lot more desktop dating or whatever, and. 577 00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:00.279 I remember I'd signed up for it. 578 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:02.119 I've never even used it, but I signed up for it, 579 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:05.880 and I was had a very long elaborate uh like 580 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:09.519 like like you have to check off Like it was 581 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:11.839 like a whole test of like here's a question and 582 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.920 then it's yes or no question, and then the third 583 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:16.759 thing is how important is it to you. 584 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:18.799 The person that you're gonna be matching with got this 585 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:21.400 right or wrong? And it was like, oh, do you 586 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.599 think skunks are pretty or whatever? And it was like 587 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:24.039 yes or do? 588 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:26.480 It was like, but I do, I guess. But if 589 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:28.960 the person who wants to date said no, I don't care. 590 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:31.720 One of the questions and I think about it all 591 00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:32.079 the time. 592 00:25:32.359 --> 00:25:35.519 One of the questions was does the Earth revolve around 593 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.960 the sun? Or does I'm sorry, does the sun revolve 594 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:42.000 around the earth? And it was like yes or no? 595 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:44.160 And then how important is it to you that the 596 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:45.680 other person got it right? 597 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:47.000 Yeah, that was the only one where I was I 598 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:51.079 got a very strong opinion on that I need them 599 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:51.640 to know this. 600 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:51.960 Yeah. 601 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:56.960 I went back to like, you know, pre like ancient. 602 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:01.559 Rome my partner to be a heliocentric Julio centrist. 603 00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:03.519 Yeah, but I think that was actually a pretty good 604 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:06.079 system maybe of like how to do the matching or whatever. 605 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:09.680 Do you care if your match is an idiot and 606 00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.960 then they can just put everything. I might say no 607 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.720 to that, Oh that's true. 608 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.039 I might not care. But if they don't know this 609 00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:18.720 one fact, that's a game trape. 610 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:20.759 That's my problem is I'd be like, yes, it's very 611 00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:22.400 important to me that you know this, but then I 612 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:23.960 would end up with a know it all like myself, 613 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:25.119 and I'd fucking hate them. 614 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:26.160 Oh you would. 615 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.279 I don't think knowing that would make you not that one. 616 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.559 I mean like every single Oh. 617 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.599 Oh yes, yes they should. 618 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:35.160 They should follow up your firm, yes with how hot 619 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:36.759 does the person need to beat in the gate? 620 00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:41.640 This change above? 621 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:43.599 Yeah? 622 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:47.960 Anyway, The tsunami that followed this massive earthquake killed two 623 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:53.480 hundred and twenty seven thousand people across fourteen countries a 624 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:58.079 long in the ocean, yes, the wild. Unlike Japan, who's 625 00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:02.200 been prepared forever, the the countries along this Indian Ocean 626 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.880 area had no tsunami warning system whatsoever. The Pacific Tsunami 627 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.440 Warnings had to detected the quake, but it had no 628 00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.400 protocol or contact list for anyone in. 629 00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:13.319 That part of the world. 630 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.559 So by the time they gathered all the affected governments 631 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.839 literally phone numbers to call them and say, hey, you've 632 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.200 got a problem, it was already over that. The wave 633 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:24.119 had raced ashore. 634 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:26.000 So you literally cannot survive. 635 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.119 It's very, very difficult. 636 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:31.440 Some people did. I remember watching documentaries of life, but 637 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:32.400 it's like three people. 638 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:35.200 Yeah, it's sheer. If you were right where it hits. 639 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.480 When it hits, you're probably gonna die. And there's a 640 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:38.039 couple of reasons. 641 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.400 I think The Impossible is based on a real family. Yes, 642 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.640 and even what was I part of that is true. 643 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.359 I'm like, this family is unbelievable. 644 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.279 Well, that's I think the title of the movie references 645 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.880 both the strength of the wave and the luck of 646 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:54.200 the family that survive. 647 00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.079 It also represents that getting me to watch any more 648 00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:58.519 than I watched would be impossible. 649 00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:01.359 I will never watch that movie. It is I'm so 650 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:04.440 afraid of the like this topic in particular, like is 651 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:05.359 gonna give me nightmares? 652 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:06.599 Good good, good good. 653 00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.880 Welcome, then your therapists can talk to me. 654 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.359 Yeah, I'm gonna be like scared all the time. Here's 655 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:12.839 their contact. 656 00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:17.240 Yes, we we probably we should get a like workers 657 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:20.200 comp insurance because as we have more people guests on 658 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.880 the show and we give them horrific nightmares. Yea, yeah, 659 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.000 we're gonna need a lawyer to help handle those cases. 660 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.039 Ship man lawyer. But we don't have any money. Look 661 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:30.960 where we're sitting. 662 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.559 So one of the reasons that people for so long 663 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:42.279 have thought of tsunamis as giant curling waves is because 664 00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.079 this very famous work of Japanese art called the Great 665 00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:48.680 Wave off Kanagawa famous. Yeah you sent me, Ed sent 666 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:49.160 me an. 667 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.400 Emoji of this artwork as I was prepping this episode 668 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:54.720 already in the phone. That's how famous it is. 669 00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.359 Yeah it is people. Some art historians believe that it 670 00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:00.759 is the most reproduced art work of art in the world, 671 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.920 even more so than the Mona Lisa. And it has 672 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:08.000 completely fucked up people's thoughts of what a tidal wave 673 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.720 is or what a tsunami is, because what the painting depicts, 674 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.319 this famous blue curl, if you're going over a pretty 675 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.359 small boat, going over a pretty small boat is actually 676 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:21.680 a rogue wave, Amanda, As you mentioned earlier, rogue waves 677 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:22.880 or Cassidy even. 678 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.880 Very interested in, So rogue waves are. 679 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.119 Very very different than tsunamis. Besides their shape and form 680 00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:34.039 is where the energy in the wave is stored. So 681 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.000 a wind wave, the energy is all stored on the 682 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.440 surface of the wave, which causes that curl and when 683 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:43.960 they hit the shore they crash. And that is also 684 00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.480 why a wind wave you can if you're standing if 685 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.039 you've ever been standing on the shore of a beach 686 00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.599 and you see the wave coming. People will say, well, 687 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.559 dive under the wave if you don't want to get hit. 688 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.000 If you dive under a wind wave, the energy dissipates 689 00:29:57.039 --> 00:29:59.200 the further down the wave you go, so but when 690 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.200 you dive under the of it, you won't even feel 691 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:01.759 it going over. 692 00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.799 Your surfers go down when they're yes blue crush. 693 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.319 Here is where we get into the physics of the tsunami, 694 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:12.799 how the wall is formed, all those important questions. A 695 00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:15.759 tsunami is the opposite of a wind wave in terms 696 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:20.599 of its energy distribution. The tsunami is the entire water 697 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:25.240 column moving from the seafloor to the surface of the ocean. 698 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.160 It's not a wave on top of the ocean. It's 699 00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:32.720 the entire ocean getting pushed sideways. And that is why 700 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.440 ships at sea don't notice them passing beneath, because there 701 00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:39.359 is no energy atop the curl. It is just the 702 00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:41.680 entire water table being pushed. 703 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:42.920 And we wouldn't even bump up a little bit. 704 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.160 Sometimes on the open ocean, a tsunami can be three 705 00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:48.279 or four feet tall, so you'll notice a little bit 706 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.319 of a rise, but nothing that you would think is 707 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.000 going to be a problem at any. 708 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:55.599 Point so that's the tsunami, like gearing up. 709 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.279 Yes, I guess it's a tsunami in the sense that 710 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.400 it's like if someone was standing behind you trying to 711 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:01.240 push you forward. 712 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.440 Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, what the fuck? What 713 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.279 the fuck? Everyone leave me be Like it feels like 714 00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.960 it's physically the ocean's being pushed. Yes, I think so, 715 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.000 I think I was pushing. Its just an earthquake, but 716 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:13.319 I think, yeah, the easiest way to get nothing better 717 00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:13.519 to do. 718 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.599 I think the easiest way to imagine this, even though 719 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:20.160 they are not as common, are our tsunamis caused by 720 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.519 landslides because it's the easiest way to imagine the water displacement. 721 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.359 So you have this giant landslide, right, all of that 722 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:31.240 earth slams into the water and suddenly all that water 723 00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.240 is displaced and has to go somewhere. In this case, 724 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.599 you know, if the landslide is moving forward, that water 725 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.720 is being pushed forward. So all of that water is 726 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.279 being pushed forward. And in deep water it might be 727 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:46.519 you know, just a couple of feet tall, but it 728 00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:50.920 can be two hundred kilometers long front to back, moving 729 00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:55.640 at the speed of a jet basically sometimes up to 730 00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:59.799 four hundred and forty miles an hour across the entire ocean. 731 00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.680 Is I can't. I know we were talking about fish earlier, 732 00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.440 but what a fucking day like. 733 00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:08.319 You must be racked down there, because on the surface 734 00:32:08.359 --> 00:32:10.759 it's fine, yes, but like the whole it's like. 735 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:12.799 If all of a sudden the air became heavy and 736 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:14.400 pushed it. Yes, there must be. 737 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.720 Fish doing fucking carwheels down there, flipping and zipping and 738 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:18.440 going crazy. 739 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:19.039 Yeah. 740 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.559 Do I even want to know this, but I'm gonna 741 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:22.160 ask it anyway. 742 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.640 Yeah, all the creatures in the ocean, they land, they 743 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:27.960 must be get thrown out they land somewhere else. 744 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.880 No, the creatures in the ocean find a squid on 745 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:31.519 top of a mountain. 746 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.559 Yeah, the creatures in the ocean sometimes get it pretty bad. 747 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:36.960 I'm sure the I don't know that there is a 748 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.119 one all the time answer to that. I'm sure the 749 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:44.000 science of the particular wave determines how bad the creatures 750 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.319 get it. But there are many creatures that can be 751 00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:50.880 brought to shore by the wave hauling ass across the 752 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:51.720 entire ocean. 753 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:53.119 That was one of the things that happened in two 754 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.279 thousand and four, where when these places were getting flooded. 755 00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.759 The animals were also getting flooded, and also all of 756 00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.039 the land animals were seeking refuge, and so there were 757 00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.359 like stories about people who were had climbed into like 758 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.319 tall palm trees, and there were scorpions and snakes and 759 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.920 stuff that also had gotten into these palm trees, also 760 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:16.359 seeking refuge and were obviously very riled up and biting 761 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.200 and attacking. Whoa, yeah, so that's there's so many things 762 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:20.960 that you don't think about the outside of just oh, 763 00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:22.240 drowning or getting hit by. 764 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.039 This way, we need to figure out how to communicate 765 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:24.480 with animals. 766 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.160 I was gonna say, they didn't become friends, like, huh, it's. 767 00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:31.400 Cool, we're all up here, not slapping and biting. 768 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.680 Just a truth for a minute. We'll get back to 769 00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.160 whatever we're up to when this is done. But no, 770 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.039 that was one of the stories I remember reading about 771 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.559 this this person who survived a tsunami and they were 772 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:42.039 holding on to the top of a palm tree because 773 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:43.880 the water had hit Yeah. 774 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:45.599 Crazy palm tre is a good one because it's. 775 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.000 Got like flex Yeah, and that's probably one of the 776 00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.640 reasons that you know, but that there were scorpions and 777 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.720 snakes in the palm tree with him and biting him 778 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.039 and attacking him. He was, but he was like, if 779 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:58.880 I let go, the water was so strong, If I 780 00:33:58.920 --> 00:33:59.599 let go them dead. 781 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:04.079 Wow, that's that's a that's a tough person. I don't 782 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.359 know that I would have. I would say like, oh, 783 00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.360 no scorpions and just let go take me. 784 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.679 Same to take me away. I mean, I wouldn't even 785 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:14.679 have the upper body strength to go together in the place. 786 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:15.119 I don't know how. 787 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.760 This is the person who was already doing that anyway, 788 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:18.760 just climbing. 789 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.800 Every time he got bit by a scorpion, he just 790 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.559 flexed and kissed his bicep again and remind himself how 791 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:24.920 incredibly strong he was. 792 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.679 No, stay up here, I would My last thought would be, 793 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.360 I bet it would be safe up there if I 794 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:32.079 had the strength to get to. 795 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:33.039 Oh, and then the wave comes. 796 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.679 Well, there are two reasons that these waves, the tsunamis, 797 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.760 are incredibly dangerous when they make land. And the first 798 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:44.280 is called shoaling, which is why they become these walls 799 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.960 of water. And I'd never heard about shoaling before, but 800 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:52.000 it's a pretty fascinating process to picture. So what happens 801 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.760 is you have all this water racing along and then 802 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.960 as it hits the shallow water near the coast, the 803 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.840 front of this giant wave creates friction with the seafloor 804 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.599 and starts to slow down, but the back of the 805 00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:07.480 wave doesn't slow down because the back of the wave 806 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.280 is still moving at the same speed. And that's how 807 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.960 you get that compression where the back of the wave 808 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.719 catches up to the front of the wave, and that 809 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.800 creates that building wall of water as it all just 810 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:23.119 builds up against the water, pumping the brakes at the front, 811 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.440 and so that creates that wall of water effect and 812 00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.960 turns it into this giant, roaring churn, and that shoaling 813 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.880 effect can turn a three foot wave into a thirty 814 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:35.320 foot wave, into a sixty foot wave, into one hundred 815 00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:39.119 foot wave even bigger. The other reasons un I mean 816 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.039 waves are very dangerous is once they hit the shore, 817 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:46.199 they don't stop. That energy that a regular wave expends 818 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.320 when it crashes is because there's no crash, No, it's 819 00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.639 just moving straight forward and that wall of seawater just 820 00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:59.840 keeps coming. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration warns people 821 00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.960 with regards to tsunamis that just six inches of a 822 00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.079 tsunami can knock a full grown adult down, and twelve 823 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:08.760 inches can carry away a car. 824 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:10.719 Now, this much I know to be true because the 825 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:15.280 typhoon Lagoon at Disney, which is maybe a canceled term, 826 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.199 I don't know, but it is. 827 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.920 I was on the shore, the little tiny shore, with 828 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.880 my little six year old legs in the water. 829 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.519 So the typhoon legoon, if people don't know, it's like 830 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:27.800 a man generated wave that comes to big wave. It's 831 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:29.320 like a water park and then I don't know if 832 00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.519 people enjoy it. But I was a little six year 833 00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.000 old and I just head up to my little six 834 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.440 year old knees in the water, and it doesn't become 835 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.079 soft ground until like a couple feet in, so it's 836 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:43.639 still like like sidewalk ass concrete until you get to 837 00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.199 the soft parts. But the littlest amount of wave that 838 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.960 was at that point it had dissipated so much, but 839 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.760 for a little six year old spinlely legs, it wasn't 840 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.920 enough and I got immediately swept down and knocked over 841 00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:58.639 and like dragged all the way across that It was 842 00:36:58.679 --> 00:36:59.360 blood in the water. 843 00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:00.000 It was crazy. 844 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.599 I had to go to a first aid hut or 845 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:03.679 whatever the theme was. 846 00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.800 I'm glad there weren't any sharks in the still with 847 00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.480 noon sharks. 848 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.360 For that as well, say where with the alligators we 849 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:11.360 were in Florida. 850 00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:14.079 It was Florida. There was no alligators. 851 00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.599 And but I'm just saying that, like I it was 852 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.320 such a small amount of water that knocked me over 853 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.199 and dragged me multiple multiple feet, right. 854 00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:26.159 So there's a lot of force in that fast moving water. 855 00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.000 So that's why even just six inches or twelve inches 856 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.159 can take a car, because you're talking about water that's 857 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.199 been going hundreds of miles an hour for hundreds of miles, 858 00:37:34.599 --> 00:37:38.360 and so when it impacts something, that impact is basically 859 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:41.480 like being hit with a car, just with water, So 860 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.960 you're not feeling the full force of it when it's 861 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:45.840 just a little bit, but it's enough to sweep your 862 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:48.559 legs out from under you. That's on top of the 863 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.920 fact that that water that is racing towards you, whether 864 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.519 it's six inches or twelve inches or twenty feet or 865 00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.199 forty feet high, is filled with everything that it's already hit. 866 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.199 In many cases, that water has already churned up boats 867 00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:07.199 and cars and animals, and so it is a wave 868 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.320 of a wall of water moving hundreds of miles an hour, 869 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.639 filled with glass and wood. 870 00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:14.039 This is mud battle. 871 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:16.320 To ever play mud bombs as a kid, No, you 872 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.199 would like take like dirt bombs, and like you would 873 00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:19.480 you would have like snowball fights. 874 00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.360 So with dirt No, well where they filled with glass too. 875 00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.039 But the thing is there'd always be like pebbles and 876 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.199 rocks and weird ship that was in there that that 877 00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.079 the kid wasn't checking, you know what I mean? 878 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.119 Mud bombs so confidently like that was gonna be. 879 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.159 Yeah, I was like, no, I just had snowballs. 880 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.559 Yeah, we had sometimes we needed that. That lifestyle have 881 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:37.639 survived beyond. 882 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.159 Right, Yeah, but I guess what it worked too. It 883 00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:41.280 made me seem less insane. 884 00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:43.360 But yeah, sometimes it'd be like rocks and stuff and 885 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.079 that as the person didn't check before they threw it. 886 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.880 Yeah, well that's basically a PSEUDONYMI you got it then, yeah, 887 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:49.760 and everyone hears. 888 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:51.559 You're microdosing tsunami. 889 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:53.119 Yeah. 890 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.239 So yeah, if you are hit by all of that 891 00:38:56.320 --> 00:39:00.840 debris and and all of that force, it's really bad news. 892 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:02.639 When you're in the middle of it, there's really no 893 00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.440 way to survive it. Oh my god, And one final 894 00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.079 detail I think worth knowing about physics of tsunamis is 895 00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.239 that sometimes, as seen in two thousand and four, the 896 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.079 sea pulls all the way back right before it happens. 897 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.159 It kind of looks like the low tide comes in 898 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.800 in just a couple of minutes, like way back, and. 899 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:24.519 It also looks like menacing, like it's charging up to yeah, 900 00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.280 like drawing back a boat or shoot it at you 901 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:26.960 or something. 902 00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.559 Basically when it happened in two thousand and four, though 903 00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.440 some of the video that survives you can see tourists 904 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.079 like kind of being like, huh what They're like running out, 905 00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:35.599 Oh that's. 906 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:37.320 Yeah. 907 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.239 They're like they don't they have no idea what's happening. 908 00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:42.840 It is so ominous. It's like some of the most 909 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:47.639 jarring for like not being actually explicit to watch right, 910 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.159 you know. Yeah, it is some of the most disturbing 911 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.119 footage that I've ever seen. 912 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:53.599 In my life. How do we still have that? Whatever 913 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:56.159 camera or phone survived, I'd. 914 00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:59.679 Be like it was like CCTV stuff, so that was like, oh, okay, 915 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:01.599 there's like resorts and stuff on the sea. 916 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.440 Sure, yeah, that would have been like that's my commercial forever. 917 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.880 It's in portste But I'd be like Saiko the watch 918 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:09.320 that survives a tsunami. 919 00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:12.440 That type of thing would be like we built. 920 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:16.239 The whole thing out of the black box exactly. But yeah, 921 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.079 it it pulls all the way back. And that's so 922 00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.679 this I had more trouble picturing. But the reason that 923 00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:26.679 the sea draws back is because if the initial displacement 924 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.440 of the water drives the seafloor down. So I was saying, 925 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:33.559 imagine the landslide version right where all the land rushes 926 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.440 in and pushes all the water forward. If an earthquake 927 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:41.199 happens when one when one of the Earth's plates slips 928 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.639 over the other, it pushes the other, pushes one plate down, 929 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.559 it creates a trow at the front of the wave, 930 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:51.639 which I can't quite picture, but New Zealand's g. O. 931 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.000 Neet tells us that quote. Sometimes the trow reaches the 932 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:58.239 coast first, and so when the trough reaches first, the 933 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.599 ocean draws down and sucks water are away from the coastlines, 934 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.199 and then it rushes back in with enormous speed when 935 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.679 the wave arrives. So it's not actually building up, okay, 936 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:09.440 but it. 937 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:10.239 Appears that way. 938 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.840 I do like to imagine that the snow the water 939 00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.480 at the shoreline was like who's coming, what's coming? No, 940 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.320 we're gonna go. Yeah, and then couldn't get out fast enough, 941 00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.480 just like us, ends up getting sucked into it, the 942 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.079 water itself, the water itself in this style. 943 00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:28.039 Yeah, yeah, this water is like we're not deep sea water. 944 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:32.880 We want We're hanging out with like snorkelers. We're chilling. 945 00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:34.119 People love us. 946 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.280 Yeah, they're happy to see us. They want to They're 947 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.440 excited to pop their little tosies in the sand. Yeah 948 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:39.480 and get a little taste. 949 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.400 Yeah, this is cute Pixars waves. I can see the 950 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.159 trailer now. Yea being bullied by the big bad tsunami. 951 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:49.199 Tsunamis like help us hurt everything, Amanda gets it. 952 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:50.840 Yeah, that would make me cry. 953 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:53.280 Well, that's what Pricksar movies are supposed to do. 954 00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:54.920 You remember the volcano. 955 00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:57.880 One about a volcano like cars with a. 956 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:01.000 Volcano, this volcano and he's like singing about how the 957 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.679 water is rising above him and his his love. 958 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:08.039 Is like out. Yes, they played it before, Malana. I 959 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:11.000 think that I did not know how to play it 960 00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:12.599 under the water and then. 961 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:16.000 And then the water comes up and then he gets 962 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:18.760 back up and then he's with his love so beautiful. 963 00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:20.480 I know how to play that whole song on the ukuleles. 964 00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:21.800 Can you please sing it for me? 965 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:24.440 Pop it out? I'm just kidding. 966 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:27.599 I will cry when. 967 00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:28.119 I hear that song. 968 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.159 Think our shorts are so good. I never pick up 969 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:31.400 on them. Like the one with the little bird on 970 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:32.280 the beach is so good. 971 00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:33.119 Oh I like that one. 972 00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:37.039 Yeah, Sandpiper on sand Piper presto. There used to be 973 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.239 a big deal. You'd watch Bernie before Wally. 974 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:44.320 Yeah, cute that that particular volcano one is It's real good. 975 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.800 The real tsunami is less cute, right right, Yeah. 976 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:50.000 There's no like little cute eyes on the tsunami. 977 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.760 I guess I like think about like when I think 978 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.159 about like water displacement in particular, Like you think about 979 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.159 those videos that are like slow motion when they drop 980 00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.840 like bowling ball into a bucket, Yes, and you see 981 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:03.159 the water well up before it goes out, right, Like 982 00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.599 That's what I'm picturing kind of. There's like this inciting 983 00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.800 incident and it wells up around the where the incident 984 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.400 happened and then falls back out right. 985 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:16.320 It's really I try to sometimes get into more like 986 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:20.199 granular detail about these things on this show, But it 987 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.280 was wild to me as soon as I scratch just 988 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:27.280 a little bit below the surface, the like water physics 989 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.360 that you that even Wikipedia is trying to describe, like 990 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.639 the way that the wave motion and this thing hits. 991 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.000 I was like, this is I'm so far out of 992 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.800 my depth even trying to describe this math toew you think, 993 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.599 I mean, waves are something we see all the time, 994 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:42.920 but it certainly seems like the physics behind all that 995 00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.639 is very, very hard and complicated. 996 00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.840 So my problem with physics is I'm like, I'll be 997 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:49.639 like reading it and I'll be like, I understand what 998 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:51.840 this is saying, and then but I'm so I'm smart 999 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.119 enough to read it, but I'm not smart enough to 1000 00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.639 make it, like to regurgitate it in any sort of 1001 00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:58.360 meaningful way. 1002 00:43:58.559 --> 00:43:58.719 Right. 1003 00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:00.880 Well, that hasn't stopped anyone who likes the idea of 1004 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.719 string theory from you know, being like, you. 1005 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.760 Know, it's like quantum physics, is it? 1006 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.559 Because I don't think anybody writing these books understands a 1007 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:11.440 single fucking thing. 1008 00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:13.440 Aren't you also six beers deep? 1009 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:20.480 Yeah, we've found evidence, and by we I mean scientists 1010 00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.800 that tsunamis have been wrecking havoc on human civilization for centuries, 1011 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:27.719 mostly due to the fact that we humans have been 1012 00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.639 placing ourselves in their cross hairs since the beginning of time. 1013 00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:33.599 But that is what happens when your prehistory is filled 1014 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.800 with fishing cultures that spring up around coasts, inlets, bays, 1015 00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.440 and places where tsunamis generally end up being. 1016 00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:40.360 A really big problem. 1017 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.960 The earliest tsunami we have decent evidence for may have 1018 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.639 actually helped destroy one of the most sophisticated civilizations of 1019 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.719 the ancient world, the Minoans, who lived on Crete about 1020 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.280 seventy miles south of the island. 1021 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:58.760 It's an island, is an island Greece, Greece, unclear, he'll 1022 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.000 tell you. 1023 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:03.400 And Crete was about seventy miles south of a small 1024 00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.599 Greek island called Thera, which we all know by its 1025 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.320 modern name Santorini. 1026 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:09.800 But the blue and. 1027 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:12.559 White instagram bait that we see at every Honeymoon photo 1028 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.800 for the past twenty years is not what Santorini originally 1029 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.480 looked like. Those cliffs and the bay are what's left 1030 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:23.360 after one of the largest volcanic eruptions in human history, 1031 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.920 literally blew the top off the island and dropped it 1032 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:32.119 into the sea. The date of the explosion is contested. 1033 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:35.280 Modern dating places at around sixteen twenty seven to sixteen 1034 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.880 hundred BC. Other archaeologists using Egyptian historical records place it 1035 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.719 somewhere around fifteen thirty to fifteen hundred BC. But whatever 1036 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:48.119 the case was, it was classified now as a VEI 1037 00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:53.559 seven or volcanic explosivity Index seven, which is a little 1038 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.719 bit less than what Ed will rate at if anything 1039 00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.440 goes wrong with the table that he's concerned about. 1040 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.280 I don't know what happened, but the reason I've been 1041 00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.039 looking down is for some reason, my camera and just 1042 00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.280 my camera became insanely blown out and I'm just like 1043 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:14.360 a white ghost with like dark eyes. So I've been 1044 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:15.639 trying to fix it in real time. 1045 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.079 But this is this is why we brought you here today. 1046 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.719 There was a tsunami. You didn't drive fast enough. 1047 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:24.480 He's the ghost. 1048 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.119 This is your sixth sense moment. 1049 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:27.119 And I'm sorry. 1050 00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.360 Why would God make a ghost who always wants to 1051 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:31.199 kill themselves? 1052 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:33.519 Is that like a way to. 1053 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.119 He's you know, he's a lot of irony. 1054 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:37.119 This is no good. 1055 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:41.800 Well anyway, I'm I'm I'm from the movie Powder Now. 1056 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.760 But it makes you feel better to try to fix it. 1057 00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:47.159 Give me two seconds. 1058 00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:48.199 Yeah, I know, I know what. 1059 00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:57.119 The ve I seven is the second highest classification on 1060 00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:02.239 the scale, second only to ve I, and scientists think 1061 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.519 that this explosion expelled four times as much rock and 1062 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:09.559 ash as Krakatoa. The ash fell across hundreds of miles, 1063 00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:15.119 and then the now empty center of the island collapsed 1064 00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.079 into the empty magma chamber of the volcano, and the 1065 00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:21.280 sea poured in to fill the hole, which created an 1066 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:25.000 even bigger eruption because when cold seawater hits an open 1067 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.440 volcanic vent, you get a giant explosion of all of 1068 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.960 that water instantaneously turning to steam. And then when the 1069 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.280 chunk of the island the size of a small country, 1070 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.320 fell back into the ocean, you got a tsunami. Now, 1071 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:41.079 remember that explosion happened on the island of Thera. The 1072 00:47:41.119 --> 00:47:44.400 Manoans were living on the island of Crete, seventy miles 1073 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:48.079 to the south. They were pretty sharp people. They had 1074 00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:51.639 a navy, a writing system, multi story palaces with flushing 1075 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:55.719 toilets and indoor plumbing, beautiful frescoes, and they traded with Egypt, 1076 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.280 the Levant, and probably even as far as Spain, they 1077 00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.880 would have heard the explosion and seeing the sky filled 1078 00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.920 with ash, and in fact, archaeologists this was really interesting. 1079 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:10.159 I thought, archaeologists haven't covered an ancient city called Aquatiri, 1080 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.000 which was covered in ash from the explosion, basically like Pompeii. 1081 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:18.000 But what they didn't find in Aquatiri was a single body, 1082 00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.719 leading them to believe that most of the city felt 1083 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:25.960 earthquakes before the explosion, and people kind of like organized 1084 00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:29.119 and left so that they wouldn't be there when whatever 1085 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.639 they thought was coming finally hit. Well, why they never 1086 00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.800 come back, Well, because most of them fled to crete. 1087 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.519 So the Minoans on the island of Therah knew that 1088 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:42.119 something was very wrong, and they knew enough to leave. 1089 00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:44.320 They just didn't know that a tsunami was going to 1090 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.039 come for one of the places that they were most likely. 1091 00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:47.679 To flee too. 1092 00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:51.920 And it's like sometimes with tsunamis, if you're further away, 1093 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.000 it's worse because it gives it more time to fucking 1094 00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:55.079 get yeah generate. 1095 00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.599 Yeah, oh my god, I think I got out of here. 1096 00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.159 So when the Theras tsunami hit Crete, the way wave 1097 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.480 we believe about fifty feet high and crushed the northern coast, 1098 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:08.960 wiping out settlements and ports. Geologists have found tsunami deposits 1099 00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.079 at coastal sites where the wave came up to four 1100 00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:14.679 hundred meters inland and ripped chunks of architecture out by 1101 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:18.000 the foundations. They even found a port at a place 1102 00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:22.039 called Amnisos where the walls of the buildings were knocked 1103 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.920 completely out of alignment. They described it as looking like 1104 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.519 if someone had shoved the entire city sideways. So that's 1105 00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:33.960 how powerful the wave was. According to National Geographic I 1106 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:35.360 thought this was really interesting too. 1107 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:35.880 Quote. 1108 00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.960 Some scholars believe that the traumatic collective memory of this 1109 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.639 event gave birth to Plato's allegory of the sunken city 1110 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.800 of Atlantis, composed a thousand years later. But it was 1111 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:51.719 a strong enough disaster and a big enough disaster that 1112 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.079 whatever had been passed down that. 1113 00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:57.679 Plato was trauma. Yea still ma art, Yeah, that's. 1114 00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.679 In twenty twenty one, archaeologists working had a site on 1115 00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.760 the Turkish coast found the first theorist tsunami victims that 1116 00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.920 we that we know about, a young man clutching his 1117 00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:11.679 dog buried together in tsunami debris under a layer of 1118 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:20.599 therin volcanic ash. Scientists call it the double whammy. Yeah, 1119 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.079 this is like, this is the only real Pompei body 1120 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:25.920 they found, but they think the tsunami is actually what 1121 00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.679 killed them because the tsunami debris is what was encasing him. 1122 00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.239 Yeah, the ash was on top of that. Oh wow, yeah, that's. 1123 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:35.079 Like he got buried. 1124 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.840 Yeah, he got buried by the tsunami and then the 1125 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:39.159 ash falling on. 1126 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:42.559 Top then then then frozen like an amber. 1127 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.000 Yeah, basically you think it's you think you'd spend a 1128 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:47.840 little extra time with those types of bodies when you 1129 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.360 find them, because be like God wanted us to find 1130 00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:50.880 this one. 1131 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.360 Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, what's the clues? 1132 00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:56.840 Yeah, I mean I think they you know they sometimes 1133 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.760 I kinda this is this is well, I don't need 1134 00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:01.559 to say it's morbid. This is you know what fucking 1135 00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:04.440 podcast you're listening to. I think sometimes it'd be great 1136 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.239 to go out as a as a disaster victim like 1137 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:11.599 this and you're discovered thousands of years later, because. 1138 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.159 I find it amazing the one hand we can't see 1139 00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:14.639 on camera and he's like that, it would be great 1140 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.519 to go out like I'm que jerking off. 1141 00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.480 We going out this way? But no, like I don't know, 1142 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:24.159 there's something really like capital are romantic about the idea 1143 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.639 of you live your whole life, you're not necessarily important 1144 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.760 or interesting in your life, and then the way you 1145 00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:36.679 die makes you incredibly rare and meaningful thousands of years later. 1146 00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.480 Amanda and I have talked about this before too, because 1147 00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.239 she has said I've said stuff like that before about 1148 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.840 like finding bodies or mummies or you know, we talk 1149 00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:48.360 about a lot of stuff like that on the show, 1150 00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:51.159 and she's always like, yeah, that's like the ideal, Like, 1151 00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.360 oh my gosh, like two thousand years after you die, 1152 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.880 someone's still talking about you. Yeah, you're the hot You're 1153 00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.079 the hot gossips in the long run, like everybody's got 1154 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:00.360 to die, usually. 1155 00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.960 Usually for a good reason, you know, they're not usually 1156 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.159 digging up the mummy being like this fucking. 1157 00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.760 We hate this guy. 1158 00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.360 We're talking again. 1159 00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:16.519 It's on the Ugly Boones Exhibit History. 1160 00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.280 So then more than a thousand years later, in three 1161 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.960 sixty five CE, another tsunami was born from the fault 1162 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.320 lines near Crete, and this time we have beautifully written 1163 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.519 record of it. Thanks to the pen of Roman historian 1164 00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:38.760 Amianos Mussellanos. This tsunami we know, hit on July twenty first, 1165 00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.400 three sixty five, and I'm in that summers. It's a 1166 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:48.599 summer tsunami. There we go theme summer fear, Marcellinos wrote, 1167 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.119 And this is a bit of a long quote, but 1168 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.000 the writing is so good, I just wanted to read 1169 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:52.480 the whole thing. 1170 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.440 Lay it on us, all right, I'll take a break 1171 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:55.239 for a little. 1172 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.239 After daybreak, preceded by heavy and repeated thunder and lightning, 1173 00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:02.199 the whole of the firm and solid earth was shaken 1174 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.440 and trembled. The sea, with its rolling waves, was driven 1175 00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:07.840 back and withdrew from the land, so that in the 1176 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:11.960 abyss of the deep thus revealed men saw many kinds 1177 00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:15.679 of sea creatures stuck fast in the slime and vast 1178 00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:19.440 mountains and deep valleys, which Nature the Creator had hidden 1179 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.960 in the unplumbed depths. Then, as one might well believe, 1180 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.400 first saw the beams of the sun. Hence many ships 1181 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.039 were stranded as if on dry land. And since many 1182 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.840 men roamed about without fear in the little that remained 1183 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.119 of the waters to gather fish and similar things with 1184 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.800 their hands, the roaring sea, resenting as it were, this 1185 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:44.079 forced retreat, rose in its turn, and over the boiling shoals. 1186 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.920 It dashed mightily upon islands and broad stretches of the mainland, 1187 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:51.320 and leveled innumerable buildings in the cities and where else 1188 00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.119 they were found, So that amid the mad discord of 1189 00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:57.840 the elements, the altered face of the earth revealed marvelous sights. 1190 00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.039 For the great mass of water, returning when it was 1191 00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:04.639 least expected, killed many thousands of men by drowning, and 1192 00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.559 by the swift recoil of the eddying tides, and number 1193 00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:11.440 of ships after the swelling of the wet elements subsided 1194 00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:15.679 were seen to have foundered, and lifeless bodies of shipwrecked 1195 00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:18.360 persons lay floating on their backs or on their faces. 1196 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:22.119 Other great ships, driven by the mad blasts landed on 1197 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:26.159 tops of buildings, as happened at Alexandria, and some were 1198 00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.960 driven almost two miles inland, like a Laconian ship, which 1199 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.239 I myself, in passing that way, saw near the town 1200 00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:36.920 of Mathone yawning apart through long decay. 1201 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.519 So okay, So if the ships are too close to shore, 1202 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:42.920 they can get caught up in this wall and be 1203 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.159 like on top of the wall basically, yeah, and end 1204 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:47.480 up inland like, which is such a crazy. 1205 00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.280 Like they got sucked out and then zip not sucked. 1206 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.000 Out like they were out, I mean, not even however 1207 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.760 far out, however far in it's coming right, Like, Okay, 1208 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:56.960 let's say you're only a mile off shore, but the 1209 00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.000 water's going three miles in. You might just end up 1210 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:03.119 on top of this water fucking and into the devastation 1211 00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:05.519 where if you're like five miles off shore, it might 1212 00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.239 go completely under your ship. It might shift you closer 1213 00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:10.199 to shore, but not all the way, you know what 1214 00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:10.480 I mean? 1215 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:13.199 I do like that. His story was like the water 1216 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.960 receded and people are like, hey, free fish. Yeah, it's 1217 00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:18.159 the best day I fucking like. 1218 00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:22.280 And then God was like, hey, no, free fish is 1219 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:23.440 the way he describes it. 1220 00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:25.079 Yes, here comes a wall of water. 1221 00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:28.159 Yeah here's this. Oh you greedy, little, greedy little guy 1222 00:55:28.280 --> 00:55:30.159 a little bit. This is what you get. You get 1223 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:31.920 wall of water, You get water. 1224 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:35.559 Do I need to move away or tonight? 1225 00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:37.760 Where from the ocean? 1226 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:38.480 Oh? Yeah? 1227 00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:40.719 Do you want to move where they have blizzards and 1228 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:43.199 ice storms? Do you want to move where they have tornadoes? 1229 00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:44.920 Do you want to move where they have hurricanes? Do 1230 00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:46.880 you want to move where they have other earthquakes? Where 1231 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:47.960 you think is going to be safe? 1232 00:55:48.039 --> 00:55:50.079 Do they have like none of those things somewhere. 1233 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.320 No, it does seem as though, and I'm not picking 1234 00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.280 on Japan the way God seems to be, but it 1235 00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.559 does seem like it goes westbore like you might end 1236 00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:03.000 up to your point about should I move, seems like 1237 00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:05.599 we end up with some residual tsunami stuff where it 1238 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:09.280 seems like they're getting tsunamis and rogue waves. It's that 1239 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:12.119 it's become part of their art and that they had 1240 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:14.800 a system in place for Hey, tell everybody there's a 1241 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:17.320 tsunami coming. So I don't know how much we're the 1242 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:19.119 recipient of full blown tsunamis. 1243 00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.639 No, I think I think the Pacific Northwest is actually 1244 00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:27.239 more in danger like day to day than we are. 1245 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:28.480 Then you're good, they're right here. 1246 00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:34.960 Yeah. Actually, like southern California statistically speaking for natural disasters, 1247 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.800 I mean it's gotten worse obviously with wildfires recently, but 1248 00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:41.719 like not where we live, and earthquakes and earthquakes, but 1249 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:45.280 even then, like once again, statistically speaking, we had our 1250 00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:49.400 first hurricane in recorded history, and it was like a pitdlling, 1251 00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.199 you know what I mean, And like we have tsunami 1252 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.679 warnings and it's like it's just high tides, stay away 1253 00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:55.440 from the beach. 1254 00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:56.440 I know that now. 1255 00:56:58.199 --> 00:56:59.960 Not all of us could drive to sand Burn, Anita. 1256 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.719 If you if anyone's watching the video, there's very good 1257 00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.039 chance that I have not fixed this camera, which means 1258 00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.039 as white as I am on camera right now is 1259 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:08.400 as white as I was in bad that much. 1260 00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:11.000 Oh yeah, when I first heard it's. 1261 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:13.280 Soon on me alert, it's like it's like, you know, 1262 00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:16.599 this is like your personal version of when Hawaii got 1263 00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:21.239 the nuclear exactly, You're right, except you had they didn't 1264 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:22.079 have anywhere to go. 1265 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:25.280 How many people do you think ruined their life that day? 1266 00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:27.159 Like they were like I've always wanted to leave my wife, 1267 00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:31.119 I'm rushing, I'm rushing over to like this girl who 1268 00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.159 I've had a crush on, you know, and I'm going 1269 00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:35.960 to profess my love and she's my coworker. And then 1270 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:37.679 it like it didn't happen, Like do you think that 1271 00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.000 guy was like really, that would have been a really 1272 00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:40.719 nice of that new. 1273 00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:42.880 Kid, Just say, guy standing in front of a girl 1274 00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.760 at the for sure end of the world. The world. 1275 00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.000 Guys, that's really funny because if she in real aft, 1276 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:50.480 there was no humor to be found on that day. 1277 00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:55.039 It sounds really like the worst possible oops all of. 1278 00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:57.159 Them are in I would hope deep deep therapy. 1279 00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:57.480 Yeah. 1280 00:57:57.599 --> 00:57:59.639 I feel like I feel like that's going to be 1281 00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:04.599 a real interesting population to study year after year as 1282 00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.239 to see the effects of I mean, how often has 1283 00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:12.079 there ever been something on that scale where that many people, 1284 00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:18.519 you know, in a quantifiable, studiable way, we're told you 1285 00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.039 are about to die, and then you can go study 1286 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.679 the population and ask questions. 1287 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.320 And I mean, am I outrageous for thinking it doesn't 1288 00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:29.920 maybe matter in the sense that to us, the thing 1289 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.280 that's so interesting about it, Well, yeah, but I'm saying 1290 00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:34.679 the interesting thing about this is that it wasn't a missile. 1291 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:35.719 Yeah. 1292 00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:38.840 But I imagine if you're living somewhere right now where 1293 00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.519 you're probably getting missile alerts and there are probably missiles, 1294 00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.960 but they don't hit you or the area you're in, 1295 00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:48.960 even though it might have been a warning, how many 1296 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:50.639 of those in are you like, well, fuck it, the 1297 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:51.480 alert's going off. 1298 00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:51.840 Yeah. 1299 00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:53.559 I feel like that's one of you go one or 1300 00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:55.480 two ways, like you either live in constant fear or 1301 00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:57.960 you kind of like get so desensitized where you're like 1302 00:58:58.039 --> 00:58:59.480 whatever whatever will be will be. 1303 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.159 This one's only interesting because there was no missile at. 1304 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:04.159 All, and because it was a one off. Right, like 1305 00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:06.159 peow who are living in war zones, we know the 1306 00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:08.480 psychology and like what happens and the damage that that 1307 00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.360 does to your your psyche, Right, but like this is 1308 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.039 a very unique one off. 1309 00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:16.920 It's basically like you experiment a couple thousand people with the. 1310 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:19.440 Fear gun, and you can stu trying to do. 1311 00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:22.320 What that did to them for decades. 1312 00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:24.360 Hey, we were just talking about the FBI and the 1313 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:27.039 CIA and the government experimenting on us without our consent? 1314 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:28.599 Have we ever thought that that was what they were doing? 1315 00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:29.679 They hit them with the fear gun. 1316 00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:33.000 Listen, as Ed said, if we can perfect the fear gun, 1317 00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:36.159 we CIA, FBI, we are open for business here. It's 1318 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.679 scared all the time enterprises that really spread whatever rumors you. 1319 00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:41.800 Need, we are willing to sell out. 1320 00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:44.400 Yeah, we just also found out that we're not getting 1321 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:46.719 paid enough to What were you going to say about China? 1322 00:59:46.760 --> 00:59:48.719 Head, Maybe repeat that thing you were going to say 1323 00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:51.360 about China and the horrible thing they did to the planet. 1324 00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:57.320 Oh, I don't think it was horrible, but but. 1325 00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:59.480 We're all because we're also open to Chinese money. 1326 00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.000 If anybody in that case, it was never horrible at all. 1327 01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:03.000 Like I'm happily. 1328 01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:05.800 Listen, my kid is young enough. You can speak whatever 1329 01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.760 language you want him to. So let's write the checks. 1330 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:09.119 Boys. 1331 01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:12.280 Anyway, we're going to fast forward more than a thousand 1332 01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:16.480 years and God, finally I travel halfway around the world 1333 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:20.639 to the Pacific coast of Japan because this case is 1334 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:25.760 really really interesting. It's the night of January twenty seventh 1335 01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:29.400 in the year seventeen hundred. It's the twelfth lunar month 1336 01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.000 of the twelfth year by the Japanese calendar, and that 1337 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:36.159 specificity becomes important later in this story. Ito, which is 1338 01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.039 modern day Tokyo, has a million people in it, making 1339 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:41.519 it one of the biggest cities in the world, the biggest. 1340 01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:42.960 It's seventeen hundred. That's crazy. 1341 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:44.079 Yeah, it's crazy. 1342 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:45.960 Out on the Pacific, that's. 1343 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.519 That kind of thing where water gets to talking. Yeah, 1344 01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:51.840 we can get a lot in one go here, boys. 1345 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:53.039 Yeah. 1346 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:57.159 Out on the Pacific coast of Hanshu, fishermen are asleep 1347 01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:00.400 the villages are quiet, and suddenly as soon I'm comes 1348 01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:03.400 rushing in. It destroyed fields and houses and rice patties 1349 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:06.679 and tire fishing operations. It put four meters of water 1350 01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.960 on the coast. Just like every tsunami. It killed people, 1351 01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:14.159 it destroyed homes. It's not nearly as dramatic and destructive 1352 01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:17.079 as the previous waves that we've just talked about. What 1353 01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:21.679 it is, though, is extremely well documented. We don't have 1354 01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:24.840 just one source like this previous tsunami. We have six, 1355 01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:29.519 six different writers scattered across six hundred miles of coastline. 1356 01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:33.840 Each documented the arrival of the wave. These were local officials, 1357 01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:37.280 head men, merchants, and their records survive in temple archives, 1358 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:40.440 in family papers, and in disaster reports. Filed up the 1359 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.000 chain of command to the shogunate, who I think was 1360 01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.880 like maybe the mayor or something, doesn't matter. 1361 01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:51.440 The reason is some and for the purposes of our show, 1362 01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:51.960 we're moving on. 1363 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.320 It was filed up the chain of command. People kept 1364 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:56.920 very detailed records of this wave. And the reason that 1365 01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.760 so many people took note and wrote about the tsunami 1366 01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.280 is because, like I said near the beginning of this episode, 1367 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.559 the Japanese to use this phrase that Ed Loves made. 1368 01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:11.960 What a different episode. Oh yeah, that was a different show. 1369 01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:17.039 They're gonna be like fucking drunk racist yo, he made 1370 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:18.360 himself whiter on. 1371 01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:21.360 Purpose, first himself out. 1372 01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:25.440 Like I said, near the beginning of this episode, the 1373 01:02:25.519 --> 01:02:29.159 Japanese made it their beeswax to understand tsunamis. They know 1374 01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:32.119 the rules and how they work, and this one did 1375 01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:35.800 not seem to follow the rules. Primarily, there was no 1376 01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.639 earthquake preceding it, which was very weird because while they 1377 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:41.840 might not have had in this advanced model of the 1378 01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:45.760 physics of tsunamis, the coastal Japanese knew that tsunamis didn't 1379 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.280 just show up and come racing ashore for no reason. 1380 01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:50.239 Did they think that maybe somebody dropped like a lot 1381 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.639 of submarines or as. 1382 01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:53.760 A submarine landslide. 1383 01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:58.400 This bothered Japanese scholars for a very long time. Obviously, 1384 01:02:58.480 --> 01:03:01.800 the suspicion outside of the submarine landslide was that there 1385 01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:04.280 was an earthquake that happened somewhere too far away to 1386 01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.760 feel that triggered the waves, possibly somewhere else in the 1387 01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:09.440 Pacific rim which is a very. 1388 01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:11.639 Active like those movies theologically active. 1389 01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:13.679 Yeah, yeah, that's where they came from. I think from 1390 01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:14.360 an earthquake. 1391 01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:16.000 Let them loose, right, yeah, I think it was a 1392 01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:18.760 split in the ocean. Yeah, yeah, well this is more. 1393 01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:20.360 They didn't know about that back then. They didn't know 1394 01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:22.280 those robots that did it. They did it. But the 1395 01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.800 thing the robots fought aliens, it's unclear. Kaiju kaiju. 1396 01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:29.639 As the centuries progressed, people kept trying to answer this 1397 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:32.920 question of what cause. They called it an orphan tsunami, 1398 01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:36.639 which happened enough that there's a term for them, because you. 1399 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:38.599 Don't know it's mother. Wow, that's so good. 1400 01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:42.199 So people were trying to figure out what caused this 1401 01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.639 orphan tsunami. The quake they know would have had to 1402 01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:47.480 have been huge because the wave was big enough to 1403 01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.639 put meters of water onto the shore and wipe out 1404 01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:55.800 all these homes. So someone somewhere in seventeen hundred would 1405 01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:58.960 have had a record of this earthquake. They checked South 1406 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.880 America because they all to the giant Chilean earthquake could 1407 01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:04.559 have sent a wave across the Pacific without anyone in 1408 01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:05.760 Japan feeling the quake. 1409 01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.880 They checked, No, no, no, They sent a guide down this 1410 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:11.079 no more modern. 1411 01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.679 As I said, as the centuries progressed, scholars tried to 1412 01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:19.119 solve this mystery. So they checked Chile, they checked come Chatka, 1413 01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:21.400 they checked the history of the Aleutian Islands. 1414 01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:23.519 But what if you're like, I mean, everyone nobody had 1415 01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:28.400 like a consolidated telling time thing, Well, oh shit, what 1416 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.519 if they wrote down like, oh, it's thirteen thirty six 1417 01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:34.719 Jesus before cry. 1418 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:36.239 Yeah. 1419 01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:40.079 I think these scholars were trying to do their best 1420 01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:44.239 piece together a mystery and hope that if someone had 1421 01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:46.039 a record of it, they could try to line up 1422 01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:48.119 their dates with the Japanese dates. 1423 01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:50.960 And I'm sorry, that's just something I actually never once 1424 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:55.000 actually thought about when we're like comparing ancient records, especially yes, 1425 01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:57.960 the difference in how people the different calendars. I never 1426 01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.199 thought about that till right now, which seems fuck stupid. No, 1427 01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:02.760 But but I really never thought about. 1428 01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:03.920 That all because a lot of time. To find the 1429 01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.400 Rosetta Stone in a different way, you'd have to find 1430 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:07.199 like who's. 1431 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.440 Writing about something that multiple nations would have seen at 1432 01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:10.119 the same time. 1433 01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:12.239 Like yeah, like a comment or yeah, or a. 1434 01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.840 Comment or Haley's comic came in at oh eleven fifty 1435 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:17.480 and it was like, really actually. 1436 01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:20.480 Says three, Yeah, came in year three. I must be 1437 01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:22.559 thinking of a different comment. That would be an interesting 1438 01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:25.159 bonus episode to do, Like I don't I have. I'm 1439 01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:27.559 sure there are like why is ed always late? The 1440 01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:29.880 calendar mystery. 1441 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.480 I'm sure there is, like a calendar of Rosette. There 1442 01:05:32.559 --> 01:05:34.000 must be like some you know. 1443 01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:38.199 Someone should have calendar. I think that sound Yeah. Anyway, 1444 01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:39.360 they checked all these places. 1445 01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:41.559 None of them had a record of a giant earthquake 1446 01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:44.119 on the night of January's twenty sixth or twenty seventh, 1447 01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:48.679 seventeen hundred and Japanese record keeping, we know, was super precise, 1448 01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:51.280 so there wasn't a question as to the correct date 1449 01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:54.480 within a day or two of the Japanese The mystery 1450 01:05:54.519 --> 01:05:59.039 was just everything else. Then three centuries later, in the 1451 01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:03.760 late nineteen eighty US, a US Geological Service geologist named 1452 01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:07.559 Brian Atwater started digging up a dead forest, and he 1453 01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:10.440 not only solved this mystery, but he uncovered a looming 1454 01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.480 natural disaster that should scare the shit out of anyone 1455 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.519 living on the West coast of America. 1456 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:17.440 Wait, why did he get money? Sorry? 1457 01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:19.199 And I just made you feel good about living here. 1458 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:23.079 This is the story of the really really really big one. 1459 01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:24.519 Are you okay? 1460 01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:26.119 It's fine, It's fine. 1461 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.440 So there is a seven hundred mile fault that runs 1462 01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:32.960 off the west coast of North America. A fault line, 1463 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.239 as I think we briefly touched on earlier, is where 1464 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:39.079 the earth tectonic plates meet and build up pressure for hundreds, 1465 01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:42.079 if not thousands of years. Eventually that pressure gets to 1466 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.599 be too much and the plates, yeah, they edged for 1467 01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:45.440 thousands of years. 1468 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:46.719 The plates slip past each. 1469 01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:50.280 Other, unleashing all of that energy into an earthquake that 1470 01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:51.760 we feel above ground. 1471 01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:54.360 If I'm not crazy, Amanda, I don't think he's even 1472 01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:55.800 talking about the San Andreas fault. 1473 01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.119 It's not the San Andres. 1474 01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:02.280 I was just going to say, literally, no, what that means. 1475 01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:02.960 There's two. 1476 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.639 This one's like I said, the Pacific Northwest. That's not us. 1477 01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:11.480 That's it's finally going to get its come up. 1478 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:12.840 And get it to day in the sun. 1479 01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:15.679 It's day under this day in the dark water. 1480 01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:20.679 I love everybody. I figuring out where this is going. 1481 01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:22.760 Okay, I will say this. 1482 01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.360 Will end up being very very bad news, probably for 1483 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:31.559 California due to knock on effects. But oh, Yeah, there's 1484 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:33.679 a lot of things that can go very very wrong here. 1485 01:07:33.719 --> 01:07:36.400 But this particular fault line correct, this is not the 1486 01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:37.480 San Andreas fault. 1487 01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.159 Uh. This particular fault line starts. 1488 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.760 Around Vancouver Island in British Columbia, and it runs the 1489 01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:46.119 entire length of Washington State, the entire length of Oregon, 1490 01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:50.400 and down into northern California before tapering off near Cape Mendocino. 1491 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:54.920 This is called the Cascadia subduction Zone. It's where the 1492 01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:59.239 Juan de Fuca plate is grinding underneath the North American 1493 01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.599 plate about an inch and a half a year. 1494 01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.920 It's like it's really far like an eighth grade formal 1495 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:05.760 in there. 1496 01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:12.000 Pretty much until unlike an eighth grade formal, scientists assumed 1497 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:16.600 that this grinding plate was basically asleep. It was basically 1498 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:19.479 just creeping. There were no big earthquakes, nothing to worry about. 1499 01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:24.920 And then Brian Goddamn mother fucking Atwater started studying the 1500 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:28.520 ghost forests, or the patches of forest along the Washington 1501 01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:32.119 and Oregon coast where the western red cedars are all dead. 1502 01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:34.199 And for a long time this has been a mystery. 1503 01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:35.600 And they're above ground, they're. 1504 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:38.960 Above ground, they're just dead, dead trees not rotting, just 1505 01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:47.560 sitting there dead and that way they're bleached. You may 1506 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.159 have seen pictures of these. They are really striking image. 1507 01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.520 You're seeing it right now. Have you watched them the video? 1508 01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:55.479 That's right, that's right. I'm a ghost forest. 1509 01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:57.239 You are a ghost You are one example of a 1510 01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:00.560 ghost forest. But do you know what killed you? No, 1511 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:02.239 you don't have to have an answer to that because 1512 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.920 for a long time, nobody knew what killed you. That's 1513 01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:07.880 why Brian got Lindsay Lohan. 1514 01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:09.800 Was that movie the strip movie? 1515 01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:13.239 Yeah? Anyway, no one could explain. 1516 01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:14.520 A stripper in that movie, isn't she? 1517 01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:18.680 Yeah, just to wipe help get the confusion off of 1518 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:21.439 Amanda's face. They're talking about the Lindsay Lohan classic where 1519 01:09:21.479 --> 01:09:23.800 she plays a stripper who is killed and her ghost 1520 01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:26.560 nose who killed her. It's a very bad midnight movie. 1521 01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:28.520 I have never seen this Lindsay Lohan movie. 1522 01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:30.520 Yeah, it might be a good it might be a 1523 01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:31.600 good streaming watch. 1524 01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:33.359 Who should we do a movie night? 1525 01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:34.760 You might need to do a movie night. 1526 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:39.399 Yeah, But anyway, this guy was like, this is weird. 1527 01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:41.439 I want to figure out why these trees are all dead. 1528 01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:43.920 No one's ever figured this out before, so he dug 1529 01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.000 into the sediment and found something kind of unexpected. He 1530 01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:52.800 found a thin sheet of ocean sand resting on top 1531 01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:56.760 of buried pete or bassed pete, is basically like ancient 1532 01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:00.840 forest floor. The sand was evidence that the tsunami had 1533 01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.560 swept inland and deposited the layer, but the way that 1534 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:06.720 it was stacked on top of the ancient forest floor 1535 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.520 or the peat, suggested that the land had been just 1536 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:12.880 a normal coastal forest and then all of a sudden, 1537 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:16.279 in a split second, it had dropped several feet into 1538 01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:18.880 the water right before a wave came in and dumped 1539 01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:22.159 this sand everywhere. At the same time that he was 1540 01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:24.520 studying all this big bad Brian teamed up with a 1541 01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:29.039 Japanese scientist named David Yamaguchi, who specializes in what sounds 1542 01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:33.960 like an incredibly boring science called dendro chronology, the study 1543 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.000 of growth ring patterns in trees. 1544 01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:38.000 Okay, that's actually very cool. 1545 01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:41.199 I was gonna say that is incredibly boring. 1546 01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:44.479 Oh well, we're of two minds on this podcast, and 1547 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:46.399 I will never say how I feel about David. 1548 01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.159 And in this case, David's job is actually pretty cool 1549 01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:53.520 because he took samples of these cedar rings and found 1550 01:10:53.960 --> 01:11:00.600 that every tree in this forest had died simultaneously. Ooh tree, 1551 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:05.199 the last ring that had grown dated to the summer 1552 01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:06.960 of sixteen ninety nine. 1553 01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:07.680 That's fucking cool. 1554 01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:10.000 That's what I get. We're saying it was boring. 1555 01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:11.039 No, no, it's still boring. 1556 01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:14.640 But like the reveal at the end of the boring 1557 01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:18.439 task is like, if only is someone who had this 1558 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.199 job had more friends, you know what I mean? 1559 01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:25.039 They to tell Yeah, if only they had a podcast. 1560 01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:28.079 Yeah, bringing around David and Bryan. 1561 01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:33.199 Yeah, oh my god. Can you that's endless content Going 1562 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:37.319 through the history of each tree ring by ring, there 1563 01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:40.000 would be no forest left. Decade of success of that 1564 01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:41.159 came in. They could do. 1565 01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:43.760 A crossover with the people who like read the sediment 1566 01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:46.000 layers and like the larth you know what I mean? 1567 01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:48.920 And serial killers who thought you can age ladies by 1568 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:50.880 the rings inside if you cut them open. 1569 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:53.159 Are there serial killers that thought that? I don't know 1570 01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:54.079 I'm cutting that anyone? 1571 01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.680 Okay, you're cutting that out like a serial killer takes 1572 01:11:57.680 --> 01:11:59.239 out a rings of a woman. 1573 01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:03.319 So god, you guys got to start doing a blooper 1574 01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:03.760 real life. 1575 01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:07.079 Everything you want to cut is too good, and out 1576 01:12:07.119 --> 01:12:07.800 of context it. 1577 01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:10.279 Would be even funny, too good, more work for me. 1578 01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:13.319 So the trees were alive at the end of the 1579 01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:22.159 summer of sixteen ninety nine and dead by the time. Anyway, 1580 01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:25.399 as you probably have guessed, this means that something very 1581 01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:29.000 big had happened on the Pacific Northwest coast between August 1582 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:32.039 of sixteen ninety nine in May of seventeen hundred. 1583 01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.079 Something to scare the forest. Isn't that a thing? That's 1584 01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:37.399 something fied forest? That is that is a term. 1585 01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:42.159 Uh, that's something in this case rhymes with giant fucking earthquake. 1586 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:46.479 Because David Yamaguchi started working with Brian to produce models 1587 01:12:46.520 --> 01:12:48.880 of what could have caused this, and it turns out 1588 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:52.760 that if a magnitude nine earthquake popped off on the 1589 01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:56.479 Cascadia Subduction Zone at roughly nine o'clock at night Pacific 1590 01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.479 standard time on January twenty sixth, seventeen hundred, it would 1591 01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:02.720 have traveled across the ocean at about the speed of 1592 01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:05.239 a seven forty seven and arrived in the middle of 1593 01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:06.319 the night in Japan. 1594 01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:07.119 Two things. 1595 01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:10.520 One mystery to think, yeah, it doesn't just rhyme with 1596 01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:12.119 it is actually those words. 1597 01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:16.039 Yes, two anything over on this guy. 1598 01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:18.039 I was gonna say mystery soft, but you beat me 1599 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:19.800 to it, which is to say that this guy was like, 1600 01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:21.039 fuck whatever Chili's do. 1601 01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:24.319 And we know, yeah, they knew. I'm badgering the Chileans. 1602 01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:26.039 They don't have answers. 1603 01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:28.079 But here's the thing. Not only did they not have 1604 01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:30.520 anyone to tell. Even if they did, there wasn't much 1605 01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:34.119 celebrating to do because the scientists also realized that this 1606 01:13:34.279 --> 01:13:37.880 same earthquake would have sent a tsunami barreling into the 1607 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.840 West coast of North America in about fifteen minutes, and 1608 01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:46.039 that tsunami would have been lots bigger than what ultimately 1609 01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:47.199 hit Japan that night. 1610 01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:49.880 Do you think, why don't they're already dig in the ground, 1611 01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:53.319 They're already looking at sediment. Why don't they dig a 1612 01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:56.199 little deeper and just see, Like, all right, if this 1613 01:13:56.239 --> 01:13:59.600 amount of deep in sediment is sixteen sixty nine, then 1614 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:02.119 the next the mount deep and sediment we can establish 1615 01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:04.319 it's probably fifteen ninety nine or some so you can 1616 01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:05.600 carbon date what have you. 1617 01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:07.880 I'd be looking for the other time, all the. 1618 01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.760 Trees died to be like, all right, does this happen 1619 01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:13.039 every sixty years or is there something we can use 1620 01:14:13.079 --> 01:14:15.359 to fucking how does this help us for tomorrow? 1621 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:15.760 Ed? 1622 01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:18.720 You need to talk to a guy named Chris Goldfinger 1623 01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:26.000 at Oregon State University because they realized that this was 1624 01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:26.680 a huge problem. 1625 01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:28.159 Is that the school that's Beaver's or the. 1626 01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:33.720 Ducks, I don't know, Morgan State that is the exactly 1627 01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:34.720 no one knows. 1628 01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:36.119 Probably the Savanna Bananas. 1629 01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:38.960 That's the Savannah Bananas callback. 1630 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:44.960 Two episodes in one show ago. So anyone listening to this, well, no, 1631 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:45.880 eight hours. 1632 01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:48.279 We spent a week with these girls one night. 1633 01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:53.800 Anyway, The Cascadia subduction zone that's seven hundred mile fault 1634 01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:55.840 is still down there, and it has been locked in 1635 01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:59.359 place since it shifted that nine pm at Pacific Standard 1636 01:14:59.399 --> 01:15:00.640 time January twenties. 1637 01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:01.880 Stop grinding that day. 1638 01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.479 It's but just for three hundred and twenty six years. 1639 01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:07.600 It will grind again, and that is what Oregon State. 1640 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.039 You can kick me out of this dance, but I will. 1641 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:11.319 There will be more dances. 1642 01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:16.079 Chris Goldfinger has dedicated his life to pulling up sediment 1643 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:20.279 cores from the ocean floor. Again, these guys questionable decisions 1644 01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:22.560 about to dedicate their lives to, but they are figuring 1645 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:25.439 out so much shit. He has spent much of his 1646 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:30.039 career looking for something called turbidites, or basically these distinct 1647 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:34.439 layers of mud left behind by massive underwater landslides every 1648 01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:37.520 time that fault line snaps. And thanks to his work, 1649 01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:41.000 we have a ten thousand year history of the Cascadias 1650 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:44.680 temper tantrums, and the math is not great. For people 1651 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.840 living in the Upper West coast of the United States. 1652 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:51.479 On average, a major rupture happens every four to five 1653 01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:54.840 hundred years. Again, it has been three hundred and twenty 1654 01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:56.720 six years since this last one. 1655 01:15:56.840 --> 01:15:59.359 Oh my god, where we do so right? 1656 01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:02.039 I'm gonna be an old piece of ship swimming. We'll 1657 01:16:02.039 --> 01:16:04.520 be dead right well, right now, I live in another 1658 01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:05.279 forty years. 1659 01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:08.079 Give me forty years. I don't think you're fourhundred with 1660 01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:10.520 every four hundred years and we're twenty six. 1661 01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:11.920 Yeah, you said through twenty six. 1662 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.199 We're three twenty six, so how many years, and so four. 1663 01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:17.640 Hundred seventy five years I'll be the good Well. 1664 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.119 Fuck these other kids. 1665 01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:19.800 These kids are fucked. 1666 01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:22.279 I just said quick math, Okay, I couldn't. 1667 01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:25.199 Sometimes it is faster, just two or three hundred years, 1668 01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:28.479 and sometimes it takes closer to a millennium. So right 1669 01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.560 now we are sitting in the seventy fifth percentile of 1670 01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:32.760 that historical win. 1671 01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:34.039 We're right in the sweet spot. 1672 01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:38.239 We've outlasted three out of every four gaps. 1673 01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:38.920 Between these mega quills. 1674 01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:39.600 Oh that's not good. 1675 01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:40.279 This is not good. 1676 01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:42.880 And the problem is, as as one of the articles 1677 01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:46.119 I read put it, there's just enough time between quakes 1678 01:16:46.199 --> 01:16:49.800 to build a civilization exactly where it's going to hit, 1679 01:16:50.079 --> 01:16:52.680 because right now there are more people living in harm's 1680 01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:56.000 way than ever before. There is evidence a big chunk 1681 01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.880 that I sort of stepped around because it was there's 1682 01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.800 a lot of maybe and maybe that's but there does 1683 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.640 seem to be a large, at least folk record of 1684 01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:09.640 various Native American tribes who have legends sort of dating 1685 01:17:09.680 --> 01:17:13.279 to around the period that this Japanese quake would have happened. 1686 01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.520 Living like cyclically in this area, like, hey, don't go 1687 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:17.560 around these times, exactly need to move out. We've been 1688 01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:18.199 here too long. 1689 01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:22.840 Ye yeah, and or legends of you know this Godvillaga god. 1690 01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:25.399 Yes, but we're not like, hey, let's pick up San 1691 01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:27.720 Francisco and get out of here. Well, we're right, we 1692 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:29.880 can't do that now. But my point, my point, you 1693 01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:32.560 can us four, we can make a compound somewhere else. 1694 01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:38.479 There is a history to civilizations saying, hey, this might 1695 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:43.000 be a bad news area. But because you know, the 1696 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.239 Americans who founded this country and the Native Americans didn't 1697 01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:48.680 have the best relationship, I think a lot of people went, 1698 01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:51.239 who gives a fuck, I don't care what your legend says. 1699 01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:56.159 So we are in the cool zone, we can call it. 1700 01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:00.000 And one of the scariest articles that I have ever 1701 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.920 read for this show is about exactly what might happen. 1702 01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.880 Back in twenty fifteen, Catherine Schultz wrote a piece for 1703 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:09.880 The New Yorker titled The Really Big One, which both 1704 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:12.800 snags were Pulitzer and ruined my day a decade later. 1705 01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:15.000 This is the woman who did the episode. When we 1706 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.560 did the Big One episode, we touched on this in 1707 01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.119 the Big One episode. We didn't read the article. 1708 01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:22.680 This article is a heavy duty. Yeah, I've read it 1709 01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:23.319 more than once. 1710 01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:27.119 Yes, it's a really well written article and you definitely 1711 01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:29.039 should go read it. I'll put it in the show 1712 01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:31.680 notes so you can read the whole thing. But in 1713 01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:35.039 this article, she talks to Kenneth Murphy, a regional director 1714 01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:38.560 for FEMA, and she asks what the government is expecting 1715 01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:43.399 when the fault finally snaps exist, and his reply is, quote, 1716 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:47.319 our operating assumption is that everything west of Interstate five 1717 01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:48.279 will be toast. 1718 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:50.560 So if you're toasts, the technical term. 1719 01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:52.479 That's ah my god, FEMA. 1720 01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.079 If you're unfamiliar with Interstate five, it is the massive 1721 01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:59.520 freeway that connects Mexico to Canada. And I don't think 1722 01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:02.439 he means everything tipped to tail. He's talking about the 1723 01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:06.039 entire coastline of Oregon, in Washington, chunks of Portland, most 1724 01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:09.960 of Olympia. Seven million people live in the area that 1725 01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:14.479 he says bets. As detailed in the article, the earthquake 1726 01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:20.079 itself will be absolutely nightmares. Just one passage to illustrate quote. 1727 01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:23.399 The shaking from the Cascadia quake will set off landslides 1728 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:26.199 throughout the region, up to thirty thousand of them in 1729 01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:30.720 Seattle alone. The city's Emergency Management Office estimates it will 1730 01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:35.720 also induce a process called liquefaction, whereby seemingly solid grounds 1731 01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:39.000 starts behaving like a liquid to the detriment, as she 1732 01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:41.600 puts it, of anything sitting on top of it. 1733 01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:44.479 It's literally like everything becomes quicksand yes. 1734 01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:49.000 Fifteen percent of Seattle is built on liquefiable land, including 1735 01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:54.640 and grunge, including seventeen daycare centers and the homes of 1736 01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:58.840 some thirty four thousand, five hundred people. So is Oregon's 1737 01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:04.720 critical energy infrastructure hub. This seems like a completely insane decision, 1738 01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:07.319 and I just I guess they didn't know. But this 1739 01:20:07.399 --> 01:20:10.000 is a six mile stretch of Portland through which flows 1740 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:14.159 ninety percent of the state's liquid fuel and also houses 1741 01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:19.239 everything from electrical substations to natural gas terminals. So together 1742 01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:25.600 the slashing, sliding, and shaking of liquefaction will cause fires, flooding, 1743 01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:30.560 pipe failures, dam breaches, and hazardous material spills. Any one 1744 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:34.560 of these second order disasters could swamp the original earthquake 1745 01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:37.640 in terms of cost, damage or casualties, and one of 1746 01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:41.760 them definitely will. Four to six minutes after the dogs 1747 01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:45.239 start barking, the shaking will subside, and for another few 1748 01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:48.199 minutes the region up ended will continue to fall apart 1749 01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:52.000 on its own. Then the wave will arrive and the 1750 01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:53.680 real destruction will begin. 1751 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:56.520 Oh, that's pre wave, that's pre that's all. 1752 01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:58.680 That's just from the earthquake. 1753 01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:01.800 I'll know I'll never see the wave. I'll be like 1754 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:02.640 and good day. 1755 01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:05.239 Yeah, I see what's happening here, and I'm gonna just 1756 01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:06.600 dip off the side of this building. 1757 01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:10.520 Now, this article is yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's true. 1758 01:21:10.760 --> 01:21:12.800 Wait dogs started barking. I was God. 1759 01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.800 This article was written in twenty fifteen, so maybe something 1760 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.680 has changed by now. But in the article they say 1761 01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:23.800 Kevin Couples the city planner for the town of Seaside, Oregon. 1762 01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:25.800 Joke sounds like a planner of relationships. 1763 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:27.960 I say, every single one of these names almost sounds. 1764 01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:34.600 Like crazy Wally Golden Finger and Kevin Matchmaker. 1765 01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:38.000 Who is the detective in the New Fur Unlocked? Uh 1766 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:41.239 if you are not subscribed to our patreon, subscribe to 1767 01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:43.399 the patreon and go listen to the New Fur Unlocked 1768 01:21:43.439 --> 01:21:47.039 about the Wild West, something ukble murder mystery. 1769 01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:50.000 It's some like it's a word for like being right. 1770 01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:52.479 It works out that way, Like how is the guy 1771 01:21:52.520 --> 01:21:56.359 who solves like cold case crimes? His last name as holes? 1772 01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:57.479 Like what's the hole in this? 1773 01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:58.520 You know? Yeah? 1774 01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:01.720 Like sometimes you just something and you're like, I swear 1775 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:02.720 to god, I'm not making this up. 1776 01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:05.920 No, his name is something like it might as well 1777 01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:09.000 be like Cowboy like Harrison always right. 1778 01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:11.439 Yeah, it was like something sharp. 1779 01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:13.960 It was something sharp, but it was like it was 1780 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:16.439 a crazy It was like significant sharp or something. 1781 01:22:16.479 --> 01:22:18.319 If somebody who's listening to this now it can go 1782 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:20.399 listen to that episode and then comment what the name was, 1783 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:21.520 that would help add out a lot. 1784 01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:22.479 Please anyway. 1785 01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:26.239 Kevin Couples, a part time a Cupid for the town 1786 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.239 of Seaside, Oregon, jokes that people will only be notified 1787 01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:33.000 it's time to flee the earthquake itself by what he 1788 01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:36.560 calls a vibrate alert system, which he means there is 1789 01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:39.520 no there is no system here. I see the earthquake. 1790 01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:43.640 It's happening. That's how you'll know to leave. And people 1791 01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:46.319 will be urged to leave on foot. Since the earthquake 1792 01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:49.960 will render roads impassable, depending on location, they will only 1793 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.520 have between ten and thirty minutes to escape the path 1794 01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:55.720 of the wave. That timeline does not allow for finding 1795 01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:59.520 a flashlight, tending to an earthquake injury, hesitating amid the 1796 01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.600 ruins of your home, searching for loved ones, or being 1797 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:03.600 a good Samaritan. 1798 01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:04.319 Quote. 1799 01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:07.520 When that tsunami is coming, you run, says Jay Wilson. 1800 01:23:07.560 --> 01:23:10.880 The chair of the Oregon Seismic Safety Policy Advisory Commission, 1801 01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.800 or as pack. You protect yourself, you don't turn around, 1802 01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.119 you don't go back to save anybody. You run for 1803 01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:20.600 your life. Twenty two percent of Oregon's coastal population is 1804 01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:23.359 sixty five or older. Twenty nine percent of the state's 1805 01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:27.399 population is disabled, and that figure rises in many coastal counties. 1806 01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:29.399 There's seventy five. Now this is ten year old article. 1807 01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:34.000 Yeah, quote, we can't save them. Kevin Couple says, I'm 1808 01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:36.439 not going to sugarcoat it and say, oh, yeah, we'll 1809 01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:38.039 go around and check on the elderly. 1810 01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:39.359 No, we won't. 1811 01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:43.319 Honestly, I like actually appreciate his candor, yeah, because I 1812 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:47.640 feel like the problem with a lot of like emergency preparedness. Okay, 1813 01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:50.800 so I'm from like a small town, yeah, and I've 1814 01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:55.880 known some preppers and grew up in Arizona, knew some preppers, 1815 01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:58.359 new people whose families were preppers. And I feel like 1816 01:23:58.399 --> 01:24:00.760 the one thing they get right is they're like extremely 1817 01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:05.920 realistic about what you can actually achieve, right, Like so 1818 01:24:05.960 --> 01:24:07.560 like for example, like I know, Amanda a Manna is 1819 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:09.439 like I would need to be corralling my animals and 1820 01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:10.720 I would need to be doing this. And I'm like, 1821 01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:14.239 then you're gonna die with your animals like that. If 1822 01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:17.840 it's so bad that your animals are going to die immediately, 1823 01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:19.720 you all you will die with them. I'm not I'm 1824 01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:21.680 not leaving them, no, And I think that that's fair. 1825 01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.399 I'm just saying we need to be realistic right about 1826 01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.000 about what is realistic. 1827 01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:28.840 And also I like that this guy gave me a 1828 01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:30.920 defense for my actions that day. I told no one 1829 01:24:30.920 --> 01:24:32.079 I was, got in my car and drove. 1830 01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:35.159 Oh yeah, like you're he would. He would have applauded. 1831 01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:39.880 He was. He was personally testing random people and you 1832 01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:40.560 passed the test. 1833 01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:42.479 Oh yeah, Oh my god. You hear that outside the. 1834 01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:46.880 Dogs, please Jesus. 1835 01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:51.479 Even worse, the article documents in elementary school in the 1836 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.399 community of gear Heart, where the children will be trapped 1837 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.800 quote they can't make it out from that school, Superintendent 1838 01:24:57.880 --> 01:25:00.840 Doug Dougherty says they have no place to go. On 1839 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.000 one side lies the ocean, on the other a wide, 1840 01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:07.920 roadless bog when the tsunami comes. The only place to 1841 01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:11.399 go in Gearhart is a small ridge just behind the school. 1842 01:25:11.560 --> 01:25:15.239 At its tallest, it is forty five feet high. Lower 1843 01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:18.680 than the expected wave in a full margin earthquake. For now, 1844 01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.239 the route to the ridge is marked by signs that 1845 01:25:21.319 --> 01:25:27.520 say temporary tsunami assembly area, stop it it rais it temporary? 1846 01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:30.399 Indeed? Once he hits it, I don't even like that. 1847 01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:34.520 Hi, this is a person who's looking at the world 1848 01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:36.479 through the eyes of a tsunami. 1849 01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:39.279 Yeah, which is an insane way to live. They're just like, Oh, 1850 01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:41.720 you built to school here. Interesting? Interesting you did that. 1851 01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:45.000 This guy, I've never heard anything more relatable. 1852 01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:48.800 Okay, I thought I thought he'd be bad at parties, 1853 01:25:48.840 --> 01:25:51.680 But you want to have a second marriage now, Like, 1854 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:53.039 you're just obsessed with this person. 1855 01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:55.479 No, I just I would have invited him to the 1856 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:56.439 wedding if I knew. 1857 01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:59.479 Yeah, and he'd probably be like, woof, it's actually be 1858 01:25:59.479 --> 01:26:01.840 pumps vague and. 1859 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.039 You would have bummed everyone out. And I would have 1860 01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:05.720 been like, guys, if you met have you met couples 1861 01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:07.960 over here? Sorry, this is my celebrity guests talk to 1862 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.640 couples about what's gonna happen in the Pacific Pacific Northwest. 1863 01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:13.319 And he's like, Vegas perfect where you want to be. 1864 01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:17.079 This is truly he's about to be side property. 1865 01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:21.319 Have you guys seen that movie Knock at the Cabin. 1866 01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:23.119 Movie. 1867 01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:27.399 Yeah, so the scene where the scene I'm going to 1868 01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:29.239 talk to the one person who's seen it sign, Oh 1869 01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:33.239 you've seen it, Okay, the scene where there the tsunami happens. 1870 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:36.359 That is, this is the scenario in that movie that happens. 1871 01:26:36.399 --> 01:26:39.479 They talk about this ridge in the in the news articles. 1872 01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:42.239 That's what they're saying. We're we're talking about it and 1873 01:26:42.279 --> 01:26:46.319 it's on a beach in in the Pacific Northwest. When 1874 01:26:46.359 --> 01:26:47.960 they have that scene where all the water goes back 1875 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:51.039 and there's like people out on the beach. That's literally 1876 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:53.560 there's like, that's what they talk about in that movie 1877 01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:55.560 as this is the thing that happened to Pennsylvania. 1878 01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:57.760 Yeah, you'll never be closer to m Night in your life. 1879 01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:00.279 You gotta go hit him up and be like, know 1880 01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:00.960 about ridges. 1881 01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:03.680 Yeah, I'll get him on the pod. He doesn't seem 1882 01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:04.640 like a busy man at all. 1883 01:27:06.039 --> 01:27:10.359 Tom's gonna be a twists. The twist would be him 1884 01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:13.920 showing up. That would be pretty crazy. Yeah. So yeah, 1885 01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:14.920 I think we'll leave it there. 1886 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.119 I feel like I've given you all enough nightmares to 1887 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:19.720 think about as you try to fall asleep and wonder 1888 01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:23.359 when that when the Juan Dea is going to act 1889 01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:26.960 up like an eighth grader and start grinding. 1890 01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:31.039 Yeah, oh man, so much pre come. 1891 01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:34.319 Oh Jesus, I went. I thought this will be the 1892 01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:37.439 episode we don't say pre come, and I feel like 1893 01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:37.760 we have. 1894 01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:38.920 Two beautiful ladies on the show. 1895 01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:40.119 Yeah, this is definitely not. 1896 01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:46.479 Well technically we did say it. 1897 01:27:44.119 --> 01:27:45.840 Without pre com We can leave the number right where 1898 01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:46.159 it is. 1899 01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:51.640 Okay, before either of you go any further with that 1900 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:55.279 train of thought, we have to rate Tsunamis on a 1901 01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:55.880 fear tier. 1902 01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:56.880 Ladies. 1903 01:27:56.920 --> 01:27:59.199 You are our guests today. So where do we put 1904 01:27:59.239 --> 01:27:59.960 Tsunamis on a skin? 1905 01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:04.680 Really quick? Because I still don't really know how they 1906 01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:08.000 don't Okay, if they don't break, how do they diminish? 1907 01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:09.479 They eventually? Yeah? 1908 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.760 They They think of it just like a giant flood, 1909 01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:14.720 Like there's a nut. When the water is fully displaced 1910 01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:18.039 and it completely runs out of the energy of whatever 1911 01:28:18.119 --> 01:28:21.399 pushed it in that direction, it recedes, Okay, it. 1912 01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:24.079 Just goes back to the ocean eventually, yeah, or just 1913 01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:25.279 goes into a sewer. 1914 01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:27.600 Well or wherever water. Yeah, I mean it takes a 1915 01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:28.199 long time. 1916 01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:30.479 I mean it's water, So I guess it goes to 1917 01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:32.279 the path of least resistance always. 1918 01:28:32.439 --> 01:28:35.600 Yeah, yeah, so it it depending on how low lying 1919 01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:38.920 the area is. It can just come in and sit 1920 01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.560 there for a long time. I don't know the actual 1921 01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:43.520 tidal effects. 1922 01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.359 What if you're a what if you're a tsunami. Yeah, 1923 01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:49.439 and now you're here, I am, I'm in your in 1924 01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:50.159 your neighborhood. 1925 01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:52.319 Like what if it went into a lake. Yeah, so 1926 01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:57.640 there's some lakes with tsunami water probably just going yeah, 1927 01:28:57.680 --> 01:28:58.600 probably I'm salty. 1928 01:28:58.720 --> 01:28:59.600 That water's confused. 1929 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:00.880 That's not salty. Confused. 1930 01:29:00.920 --> 01:29:04.319 One sounds a good sequel to Pixar's Waves. You have 1931 01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:05.560 lake water, that would be that. 1932 01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:09.000 That would actually be the short that would play before it. Yeah, 1933 01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:10.920 salt if you confused lake water? 1934 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:11.520 Oh my god. 1935 01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:14.079 Yeah, and the salty is the salty water moves in 1936 01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:15.760 next door and it's all grumpy and salt. 1937 01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:18.680 It doesn't even want to be there, No, because that's salty. 1938 01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:21.239 It's like we are in the wrong life cycle of 1939 01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:26.600 the steelhead trout. Only real fish heads will get that one. 1940 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.520 Oh my god, dude, hit us up. If you're into weather, 1941 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:30.479 if you're into fish. 1942 01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:33.640 I'm realizing now that I have the I have the 1943 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:34.319 interests of. 1944 01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:36.159 A of a much older man. 1945 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:38.720 I was going to say, a very bullied seven year old. 1946 01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:42.039 I feel like you find the interesting interests. You're talking 1947 01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:43.520 about it in this advanced age. 1948 01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:45.079 Yeah, you're like a grumpy old man. 1949 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.039 You're a grumpy old man from the film Grumpy Old Man. 1950 01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:47.920 To be grumpy. 1951 01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:50.640 Feel like you'll get there when kids keep being like, 1952 01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:53.199 I hate what you like, and then you'll turn into. 1953 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:53.840 A grumpy I was. 1954 01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:55.920 I was at a I was at a baseball game 1955 01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:57.239 yesterday and this little girl. 1956 01:29:57.359 --> 01:29:57.840 Was it banana. 1957 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.159 It was the savanna bananas. How do you know? And 1958 01:30:01.279 --> 01:30:04.960 this little girl kept climbing over the bleachers and I 1959 01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:07.159 just and I kept going, this is this is really 1960 01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:09.039 gonna piss me off when she falls down and hurts herself. 1961 01:30:09.079 --> 01:30:10.159 And my friends are like, what do you mean it's 1962 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:11.920 gonna piss you off? And I was like, because it's preventable, 1963 01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:14.560 and she's gonna cry. And then sure enough, she fell 1964 01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:16.479 down on her herself. She started crying real, real loud, 1965 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:18.039 and I was like, see there, what did I say? 1966 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:21.920 What did I say? And I was like, geez, Louise, okay. 1967 01:30:21.640 --> 01:30:23.800 Grandpa, fucking ma rats, I get that kid. Off. 1968 01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:27.079 Yeah, I was like, this is an astar waiting to happen. 1969 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:30.359 All right, what tsunamis. I'm going to give tsunamis a 1970 01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:33.720 solid It's hard to give it like too high of 1971 01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:36.199 a number because I don't think that I'm and this 1972 01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:38.199 is knock on wood, I don't think I'm in the 1973 01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:41.119 like danger zone like as much as so many other 1974 01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:43.039 places in the world. 1975 01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:44.319 We're pretty close. 1976 01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:45.640 We are. 1977 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:49.159 Like once again, you look at all the times we've 1978 01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:51.159 even had tsunami warnings where I live. 1979 01:30:51.399 --> 01:30:53.399 And who's to say when the big earthquake happens, we 1980 01:30:53.439 --> 01:30:59.600 don't get a fucking tsunami, which big earthquake means. 1981 01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:02.560 Yeah, I don't think the San Andrea's fault would cause 1982 01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:06.880 a tsunami because it's not gonna display the earth that's 1983 01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:09.359 slipping is not beneath the water. 1984 01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:10.239 Yeah. Yeah. 1985 01:31:10.239 --> 01:31:13.039 But companies that are doing well don't need to lay 1986 01:31:13.079 --> 01:31:15.159 people off. But when they see other companies that do 1987 01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:17.600 well lay people off, they feel. 1988 01:31:17.439 --> 01:31:20.079 Like they can do it too. So San Andrea's fault 1989 01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:22.439 goes off. Now you've got Ricky Pacific going right. 1990 01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:25.640 This is that actually is a thing that people think 1991 01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:27.720 that there's like a trifecta effect that could happen if 1992 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:30.159 anyone wants to be even more scared from this story 1993 01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:33.640 that either one the San Andreas or the Pacific Northwest 1994 01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:35.840 fault could hit and trigger the other one, and then 1995 01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:40.479 that could trigger the super volcano that's under Yosemite. 1996 01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:41.680 He's nervous about that. 1997 01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:44.960 Yeah, I think about that more than any Probably that's 1998 01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:46.720 when I think about a lot, because that's gonna be worldwide. 1999 01:31:46.760 --> 01:31:48.359 That's like that's like second Ice Age ship. 2000 01:31:48.520 --> 01:31:52.520 Well, yeah, because we've we've created these civilizations. I mean 2001 01:31:52.560 --> 01:31:56.239 not just not not just in the lulls between tsunamis, 2002 01:31:56.319 --> 01:32:00.760 but I think that's something in in in Earth time. 2003 01:32:01.359 --> 01:32:03.720 Humans have been around for such a small amount of 2004 01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:07.279 time that we've never really experienced the bad stuff. Yeah, 2005 01:32:07.479 --> 01:32:10.000 never really experienced how bad it can really get. 2006 01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:12.920 And that's how I feel every time we talk about 2007 01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:16.720 these like mega events, and especially living where we live, 2008 01:32:16.760 --> 01:32:20.640 where we don't experience like radical hurricanes and you know, 2009 01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:24.760 devastating things beside wildfire fires are really our biggest thing, 2010 01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:26.880 and even the last ones were like holy shit, that 2011 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:29.720 was like unprecedented. Yeah. Yeah, so I feel like it 2012 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:31.359 does almost feel like, oh, this thing that we talk 2013 01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:33.840 about that will never happen, but like eventually it will, 2014 01:32:34.039 --> 01:32:36.600 and who knows if it's five minutes from now or 2015 01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:38.319 five hundred years from now. We really don't know. 2016 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:40.640 You need to ask it for more details. 2017 01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:43.000 I gotta I gotta get into like getting a psychic 2018 01:32:43.039 --> 01:32:43.760 on board or something. 2019 01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:46.039 Yeah. I just recently started pulling tarot cards. 2020 01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:47.680 Card about this. 2021 01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:50.399 I don't have any decks here. Oh, but where are you? 2022 01:32:51.840 --> 01:32:53.479 I don't know, it's I've go I started hanging out 2023 01:32:53.479 --> 01:32:54.920 people who are like, you want to pull the tarot card, 2024 01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:56.119 and so I guess it's a gateway drug. 2025 01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:57.000 When's your birthday? 2026 01:32:57.479 --> 01:32:58.159 I don't know the. 2027 01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:02.279 Other ones though, bday I got I'm an orphan wave. 2028 01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:08.800 I uh, I'm I'm Christmas Eve. Oh but so I'm 2029 01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.239 a Capricorn. But I couldn't tell you my son's signs 2030 01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:11.880 and moon sign. 2031 01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:14.079 I was asking when your birthday is. I was going 2032 01:33:14.119 --> 01:33:15.800 to say, I'll get you a because you're not supposed 2033 01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:17.640 to buy your own tarot deck. You're supposed to have 2034 01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:20.079 it gifted to you. Interesting, but that seems too far away. 2035 01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:22.640 I probably will just you'll forget that, Yeah, you'll forget 2036 01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:25.720 Oh No, I just am bad at keeping. 2037 01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:28.520 I have to, but I've never opened them before because 2038 01:33:28.520 --> 01:33:29.359 I've been too scared. 2039 01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:31.159 I don't want anything stupid though, I don't want like 2040 01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:32.319 a Pokemon Saturn. 2041 01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:32.920 I won't do it. 2042 01:33:32.920 --> 01:33:35.000 I will keep it classic, Okay, thank you, keep it classy. 2043 01:33:35.600 --> 01:33:39.119 I'm gonna go seven tunami because it is terrifying, but 2044 01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:42.439 also you can't avoid it easily by not living on 2045 01:33:42.479 --> 01:33:45.640 the coast. Interesting because if you get hit on vacation, 2046 01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:47.800 how are you gonna get fired on your day off? 2047 01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:50.479 You know what I mean? Like you that's just like 2048 01:33:50.600 --> 01:33:53.359 God really was like that one in particular, you're out 2049 01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:55.119 of here. But like, if you live on the coast, 2050 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:56.560 obviously you're you're playing. 2051 01:33:56.640 --> 01:34:00.600 Also, with the exception of again a nearly world endingly 2052 01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:07.119 devastating earthquake and wave, the chances unless you live directly 2053 01:34:07.199 --> 01:34:09.760 on the coast, the chances of it coming even a 2054 01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:12.880 mile or two inland is I didn't know that pretty 2055 01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:14.199 pretty unlike pretty rare. 2056 01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:15.640 Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna give it 2057 01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:18.279 a seven because I do live less than a mile 2058 01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:21.399 from the beach, and I will always take that risk 2059 01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:23.159 as somebody who just needs to live by the beach. 2060 01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:25.840 But I do understand, like, if it's something that you're 2061 01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.159 genuinely terrified of, you can just live in Lakewood, you know. 2062 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:31.239 I think that's a pretty good number, Amanda. 2063 01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:32.920 So it's just a classic one through ten. 2064 01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:36.039 Yeah, yeah, ten is the scariest bucket a piston. 2065 01:34:36.039 --> 01:34:39.199 Shit, I'm gonna go nine point five. 2066 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.359 Okay, all right, I like that. I like it way 2067 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:42.880 up there. 2068 01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:45.520 Now that I know that it pushes from the bottom 2069 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:48.479 and that's how it destroys everything, it's way scarier to me. 2070 01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:52.479 I thought, so I thought I could just like duck. 2071 01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:55.600 Under No, but you've never even done that with a 2072 01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:56.359 regular way. 2073 01:34:58.000 --> 01:34:59.720 Now, all of a sudden, you need to be most. 2074 01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:02.079 Just talked about this on the podcast I was a kid. 2075 01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:04.520 I said, you've never experienced diving under a wave? And 2076 01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:05.600 you said, and I never will. 2077 01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:09.159 Well, like a small wave, like a teeny tiny little 2078 01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:11.439 guy that you like pop over when you're like. 2079 01:35:11.399 --> 01:35:13.880 In the water, A little short can't not like a. 2080 01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:15.720 Big guy, not like something I'm gonna surf. I'm not 2081 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:16.359 going under that. 2082 01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:19.079 Okay, Yeah, Because I do like open water swimming and 2083 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.520 stuff that's like fifteen feet to get out to where 2084 01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:23.479 it's like enjoyable to actually swim. You have to get 2085 01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:24.079 past the surf. 2086 01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:26.119 It's not enjoyable sooner. 2087 01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:28.439 No, No, it's usually waves. 2088 01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:30.720 Yeah yeah, and if you want to actually swim, like 2089 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:32.119 I'm talking, goggles on, we're. 2090 01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:34.000 Going I have, I have at all. 2091 01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:35.479 I have never dove under a wave. 2092 01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.279 Can handle it? No, No, we couldn't. I had a 2093 01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:40.199 racist peanut butter cup during this recording. 2094 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:43.279 I have never dove under a wave. 2095 01:35:43.439 --> 01:35:46.239 When my when I can't touch the bottom of the ocean, 2096 01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:48.000 oh wow, Okay. 2097 01:35:47.760 --> 01:35:49.479 That's when you need to do it. Yeah, like when 2098 01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:50.880 I'm just say as you just kind of do like 2099 01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:51.840 one of those yeah, you. 2100 01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:55.000 Know when you're doing that. I dove under those Okay, 2101 01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:58.560 and I'm like, whoa, that's crazy. Sure, but that's about it. 2102 01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:01.239 And I'm terrified at the ocean also, so and I'm 2103 01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:05.199 terrified of earthquakes, terrified of the ocean. I'm just terrified 2104 01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:09.319 of death in general. So all those things are kind 2105 01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:11.000 of in a tsunami. So that scares me. 2106 01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.720 Yeah, tsunami is those are three ingredients in the tsunami cakes. 2107 01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:15.560 Yeah, that scares me. 2108 01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:16.800 Shit man, all. 2109 01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:18.439 Right, So you have a seven to nine point five 2110 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:19.439 ed you. 2111 01:36:19.399 --> 01:36:22.119 Go six really because it dragged me out of bed, 2112 01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:24.439 but I now learned that I was too far away 2113 01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:26.560 to be in danger, so I had to lower it. 2114 01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:29.119 So that morning it was a nine point five. Now 2115 01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:29.720 it's a six. 2116 01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:31.039 Okay, Well, are we okay? 2117 01:36:31.159 --> 01:36:33.039 Because I'm not going to move any closer to the water. 2118 01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:35.640 I just feel like, can we change the fear though 2119 01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:38.520 based on like, let's say you're at the beach. 2120 01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:39.680 Oh, you're going to be five. 2121 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:45.199 The beach and you see the fucking waves coming, that's 2122 01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:45.560 a ten. 2123 01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:47.880 To be fair, we do face this question at the 2124 01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:50.319 end of nearly every episode. We're like, well, if the 2125 01:36:50.319 --> 01:36:54.520 clown is in my house, that's a ten. Guessing I 2126 01:36:54.560 --> 01:37:01.279 don't know, so okay, uh seven, nine point five six. 2127 01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:04.119 I feel like I have to go, like I have 2128 01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:05.920 anxiety about it, but I feel like I have to 2129 01:37:05.960 --> 01:37:07.199 go lower than you because. 2130 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:08.079 Because we're not by the beach. 2131 01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:11.119 No, well, because you fled and the time and you 2132 01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:14.119 didn't know fifteen minutes I thought I was fucked. I 2133 01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:14.920 didn't go anywhere. 2134 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:17.000 But also a six made you flee. 2135 01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:18.800 No, no, no, I said. On that day, it was 2136 01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:20.760 like a nine point five. I learned, and now I've 2137 01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:23.760 learned that was an irrational reaction to it. And now 2138 01:37:23.800 --> 01:37:26.239 I'm lowering to a six, which is to say, above 2139 01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.520 a five because might find a big fucking wave. 2140 01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:31.239 I was gonna say I gave it a seven because 2141 01:37:32.079 --> 01:37:33.560 I live closer to the beach. 2142 01:37:33.359 --> 01:37:35.039 And also saying I should go lower. 2143 01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:37.920 Well, I'm just saying, yeah, like, you don't need to manage. 2144 01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:40.239 You don't see anybody, no I do. This is your 2145 01:37:40.279 --> 01:37:41.840 decision so bad. 2146 01:37:42.119 --> 01:37:43.640 Like we were talking about in the beginning, this is 2147 01:37:43.680 --> 01:37:46.119 a reoccurring nightmare that I do have of standing on 2148 01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.279 a beach and watching the water receipt and knowing there's 2149 01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:50.359 nothing I can do. Like, so I'm saying this is 2150 01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:52.039 clearly something I think about in that I fear. 2151 01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:53.960 Yeah, I know, I'm I should maybe go lower, but 2152 01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:54.840 I'm sticking with it. 2153 01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:56.880 But I think that's what makes it so much scarier 2154 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:59.920 is that once it's happening, you're done right. 2155 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:03.119 Yeah, there's nothing It's like getting necrotizing fascy iteas you 2156 01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:03.560 have to be like. 2157 01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:06.680 That was a hell of an episode. That much was 2158 01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:08.239 not an easy episode to get through. 2159 01:38:08.920 --> 01:38:10.760 All right, Well, then I guess you bring up the 2160 01:38:10.760 --> 01:38:14.079 good point about the nightmares that I also have, So 2161 01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.399 I feel like I get. I guess I'll go. 2162 01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:19.800 Seven as well. I guess I'll go seven as well. 2163 01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:21.079 I'm sticking with my six. 2164 01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:23.079 I know, I think that that's fair. I think even 2165 01:38:23.119 --> 01:38:23.399 like I. 2166 01:38:23.359 --> 01:38:25.119 Was, six is a healthy fear of it. 2167 01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:27.560 But yeah, I was expecting like a four from you. 2168 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:34.319 A lot of people say that, but yeah, that's in all. 2169 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:37.159 Fairness though, Like, I don't think there would be many 2170 01:38:37.159 --> 01:38:39.079 things you could tell me on this podcast that wouldn't 2171 01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:40.319 be close to an eight or and I. 2172 01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:43.000 I was gonna say for me, you are scared of them. 2173 01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:43.800 I'm scared of a lot. 2174 01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:47.319 She's scared all of the literal perfect. 2175 01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:49.000 You are the perfect guest for this show. 2176 01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:51.239 Can't cut that, you can't cut that? 2177 01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:53.439 All right? 2178 01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:57.359 Well, guys, this has been an insane journey, very funny, 2179 01:38:57.439 --> 01:39:00.239 lovely time with Cassidy, Amanda. Thank you, guys ky so 2180 01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:01.439 much for coming on the show. 2181 01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:02.840 Thank you for having us so much. 2182 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:05.439 The podcast again is drinking the kool aid. Go check 2183 01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:08.159 them out right now, throw them on the Spotify follow list, 2184 01:39:08.319 --> 01:39:12.560 like subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Until next time, 2185 01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:15.880 the show is I'm Chris Calari and I remain ed 2186 01:39:16.199 --> 01:39:17.640 and the show is scared all the Time. 2187 01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:22.399 We'll see you later. Bye bye, bye bye bye. 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