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Governor Ron DeSantis and Florida has confirmed Florida's twenty twenty
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Democrats would be left with three out of the twenty
eight and that would have been essentially negate California's redistricting.
So there's that. At the end of the last hour,
I was playing some audio from the press conference that
was held today at the Government Center. About two dozen
people showed up to speak. Media was there to not
ask any difficult questions or pushback on any of the
assertions or predicates of their arguments. All the questions, there
were three of them, and all of them were basically,
what advice do you give to illegals to avoid getting caught?
As essentially all of their questions, what do you tell people?
I hate that question? What do you tell people? So
one of the speakers I did not catch her first name.
I think it was either Nissi or Rec Brown. And
she is the SEIU leader, so Service Employees International Union leader,
and she drove all the way up from Charleston to
speak because Charlotte is part of I guess her territory.
And Trent asks on Twitter, why does the voice of
Charlotte North Carolina workers live in Charleston, South Carolina. That
just doesn't make any sense. That's a very good question.
But I don't know the internal regions of the SCIU.
But fair question this from Dennis who says, hey, Charlotte
Airport has border implications as an international airport. Yeah, because
State Representative Aisha Do Democrat was saying, you know, why
do we need customs and border patrol here? We don't
have any borders. Where are they going to be protecting
the Rock Hill border? Like? What are they doing borders. Yeah,
we have an international airport, so we do actually have borders.
It's the airport. Also, he says SCIU is a huge
group of malcontents, not to be trusted a union for
the union. First, all right, let me get back to
some of this audio from this news conference. I don't
even know who's the speaking, Well, just play it.
Speaker 2: Joanelle Coswell, who was a part of the chair for
the International Cabinet, also worked with International House and is
also an immigrant herself.
Speaker 3: The representative due I don't know, maybe maybe this isn't working.
Speaker 1: However, I was the microphone. They're they're my little microphone speaker.
It wasn't working correctly. But this is a feed from WBTV,
so that's why the audio is pretty good. Uddy, and
good morning.
Speaker 3: This is a very very dire time that we're gathering
here today.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I'm a proud immigrant. I'm a proud Jamaican American and
I have been a part of this community for over
a decade. The immigrant community in Charlotte is vibrant, productive,
and contributes over a billion dollars of spending revenue each year.
Speaker 1: Okay, so again, when they do these types of stats,
they never look at the other side of the ledger.
This is just to spin propag into job right. They
never they're not giving you all of the data. Also,
she says she's a proud immigrant. Fair enough, sounds like
she's a legal immigrant, that's what it seems like. But
she's only been here ten years. This is again one
of those things, like you're telling people what we should
be doing and what Charlotte is all about, and all
that you've only been here like ten years.
Speaker 3: So this community immigrants not only bring their culture and diversity,
but we help to make this community prosperous and a
healthy economic ecosystem. I have recently been grieving the loss
of a very very dear friend, and I can only
imagine that this kind of grief, this kind of sorrow
is only can I can't. I can't even describe what
families must go through when they come home to find
family members gone missing. It is one thing if you
are going after criminals. It is one thing if you're
going after people who have broken the law. To have
to take someone with no due process, this is not democratic.
This is not America, and this is not Charlotte, and
this is not this country.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, hang, on this side. I thought America was
systemically racist, didn't you guys tell us that for like
the last five years, that we're just inherently original sin
you know, cops or slave patrol like all of that stuff.
We're systemically in capable of treating people fairly. I thought, So,
wouldn't that make up? This would make I mean, this
would actually make sense if you had this consistent philosophy.
But now you're saying it's not. Uh so, does that
mean we're not systemically racist and haven't been all this time?
And you were lying about that? Just I'm trying to
I'm trying to get some clarity. I would like a
consistent standard too, if possible. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Our community is strong and it is made stronger by
the presence of immigrants and the international community. Okay, we
need to stand together and we need to protect our
community members because they do not come here to rob
do not come here to steal.
Speaker 1: They come here for a better.
Speaker 3: Life and to make this community better by.
Speaker 1: Working hard hashtag. Not all of the immigrants, not all
of them. Some of them did actually come to set
up like cartel operations and that sort of thing, which
would be what federal enforcement officers like that, they would
be looking into doing that sort of operation. Right, A
lot of people, Look, I agree, I want there to
be legal immigration. I think we should be picky and
choosy about who we allow into the country. But I'm
not an anti immigration person. That being said, I am
an anti illegal immigration person. And so if you came
into the country illegally. Key part of the equation here,
key part of the debate that nobody seems to be
mentioning in any of this press conference, And no media
thought to ask, like, why are you conflating illegal and
legal immigrants? Because they are different, they're a different category.
Why are you doing that? Nobody asks that because everybody
is in on the same racket here. They all know
what's happening. They understand that. The reporters that are there,
they know this, right, the people who are speaking at
the press conference, they know this. They all know this.
They know there's a difference between legal and illegal. But
they don't want to say any difference is they don't
want to say the word illegal because they want all
of the empathy for legal immigrants to transfer to illegal immigrants.
That's why they keep changing the word, right, undocumented, unauthorized
people lacking proper documentation. If you don't have any word
count to have to abide by in your news story and.
Speaker 3: Participating and volunteering just like myself. We need to stand
together and we need to protect our community members and
we have to say no, this cannot happen, and we
need to defend our democracy and make sure that there
is due process.
Speaker 1: Okay, so defend the democracy. So you got to defend
the democracy. But the people who are here illegally, they're
not allowed to vote. You guys keep telling me that too,
that they're not allowed to vote. There are federal laws
about that, and we don't need the state law which
was passed to restrict voting to only legal residents. Right
to legal citizens, I should say, to only citizens. Right,
you said we didn't need that law either, because they're
not voting. So how exactly is this about the democracy?
Because they can't they can't participate in the democracy. Like
it's just this is what I mean. It's intellectually flabby.
They don't even know how to formulate logical arguments on
this matter. Well, but that I'm saying that, see, and
I know I know if I had to formulate a
logical argument here. I would not be able to do
so either, because you're defending something that is illogical. Nations
have the right and the authority to police their borders
to expel people who enter their country illegally. Think of
it like your home. You have property rights. If you
don't want somebody on your property, you are allowed to
have them removed from your property. Every other nation on
Earth understands this. You don't just get to go and
set up in another country. Well, I shouldn't say there are.
There are probably some out there that you could do that,
like war torn countries that aren't monitoring their borders very well. Well,
but maybe the war torn ones are. They got troops
on the borders and stuff. Yeah, this is within a
national authority.
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news conference audio, I'm developing a brain bleed. I'm having
a problem accepting elected officials declaring that illegal aliens form
part of their constituencies, and Russ says, I agree with
your intellectually flabby point. I've also been noticing for a
while that we've had a real loss of logical reasoning.
Schools and media have been teaching people that it's okay
to hold diametrically opposed thoughts in their head. At the
same time, I've seen so many people contradict themselves in
the same statement with no idea they're doing it. Yeah,
let me jump over here and get to Doug. Hello, Doug,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 6: Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: Be good, sir? How are you pretty good?
Speaker 6: Pretty good? I was listening to this just for a
little while. Once I get back in my call, I
heard all this, and I think it's so it's just
so funny. What these folks expectations are. I moved, Well,
it didn't move. I went down to Mexico back in
twenty eleven on vacation. I ended up long story short,
I ended up living down there for eight years. But
I had to follow a legal process down there, basically
worked visa and then I ended up, of course having
a couple children, got my permanent residents and all that.
But if I hadn't followed the legal processes down there,
I would have gotten booted and sent back to the US.
That was just the way it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And when I went back up and I brought my
wife and my children and all that, guess what. We
followed the same legal processes here. I hired a lawyer,
we applied or put in all the applications. We did
exactly what we're supposed to do. Eventually my wife got
my wife and my step son got their residencies and
all that. My wife was able to go to work.
And I just find it totally amazing, so amazing that
we have all these folks that are just saying, oh, no,
they're here, it's okay, as long as they haven't broken
a law. But the fact that they've come into the
country without even applying for citizenship or what have you,
it just amazes me because I've paid like thousands of
dollars just for my wife and my children to be
up here, right, And you know, it's just it's insulting.
Speaker 1: No, it's insulting to the people like you who did
it correctly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I just wanted to call it and kind
of just mention that. And you know, if the third
world country requires you to follow the laws in order
to get permanent residency, work visas and all this other
stuff in order to be able to stay there and
live there, why can't we do that here in the US? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, a friend who works in Central America and he
has to return to America once a year because he
like he's there. It's part of their it's part of
their laws where you can't you can't live there year long.
You have to return to your native country and then
come back. So every year it's.
Speaker 6: Probably like an extensive visa or what have you. Right,
that's what I'm passing anyways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and I don't know what. I don't know
what is particular, you know, visa is or anything like that.
But yeah, like they have all these laws too, and
Mexico's laws from what I understand, or even stricter than ours.
They don't suffer this stuff that we do at all.
That's that was my impression.
Speaker 4: They don't.
Speaker 6: And when I live down there, if I had broken
the law, if I'd disrespected the flag, if I'd done
anything political, guess what, they would have booted me out.
I wasn't allowed. I was not allowed to take and
do any type of protest or march or anything like
that there. If I had done that, I would have
been gone. Yeah, it was just that simple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug, I appreciate the insight. Thank you, sir. Have
a good weekend, Yes, sir, thank you, all right, take care. Yeah,
It's that's the thing when you actually take the time
and look at what the rules are for other countries.
You realize what an anomaly we are. And well, I
shouldn't say not just US, but Western civilization countries, Western nations.
We have this suicidal empathy that we have to take
every single person that gets across the border. And like
other countries don't feel this requirement, there's no pressure on
them to do these sorts of things. Dave, Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 4: Dave. As a veteran, this is not the country that
I swore an oath to the constitutions of the fact
the lack of education is the worst part of it.
That woman says she's a Jamaican American, Okay, did she
come through the country properly through the vedded and and
you were going her residency and become assimilated to our culture.
And they're talking about skin call and everything. That woman
who got stabbed on the light rail, she came through legally,
she would can process. She was white as you know
white in the cloud too.
Speaker 1: Is Ukrainian?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, uh, but it has that has nothing to
do with it.
Speaker 1: No, you know, there are Look, there are Russian illegal
aliens in America and maybe and I'm going to go
out on a limit and say maybe a portion of
them that are here illegally might actually be engaging in
criminal activity. I don't care what the racial makeup of
the person is. I care about whether they're here illegally
or not exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as they're checked and check some bounces
and according to the constitution, yeah, five years you have
to be checked in and checked on, and five years
speak the language, assimilate in the community. And if after
those five years, if you haven't assimilated which community and
become part of a of the society to contribute to
your community, you're bruted. Yeah. I was put it in
the conversation by Teddy Roosevelt, and that's one of those
erver sights of education. Now, well, I don't know what
people are looking at. It has nothing to do with
it has everything to do with safety. And this is
not the country I remember that playing it out.
Speaker 1: It's got and I appreciate the call. Dave, thanks so much,
and thank you for your service to the country as well.
I would say that I, like I said, I want
people to come in and I want them to do
it the right way. And here's the thing. Coming to
America is not a right you have no right to
come to America. You have no right to go to
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the text line, Steve says, the illegal aliens could have
created their own due process through the ports of entry.
Yes see. But here's the problem. Also is that the
prior administration created these pathways to flood America with millions
of illegal immigrants. That was an intentional policy. I'd been
talking about it. Conservative media had been talking about it,
but legacy media was not. And people who consume legacy media,
they were not hearing this stuff. They were not hearing
any pushback. They weren't hearing about Alejandro mayorkas breaking the
law in doing blanket asylum passes via the CBP. One
app right, they weren't getting that kind of information, so
they may be completely in the dark about what's going
on and what's going on here, despite what the Charlotte
Observer Editorial board said in their editorial where they say
this isn't a debate about immigration policy. Oh no, it
most certainly is. See because this the CBP coming to
Charlotte ice enforcement actions. This is the ramification of your
policies of what you guys championed. You said, open the doors,
let everybody through. We're not even going to ask them
to sign the guest book. And then when it got
to be too politically radioactive for you and for Joe
Biden slash Kamala Harris, then it was like, oh okay,
well yeah, well we need some new legislation. Then, and
James Langford, the useful idiot, lends his support to this
idea of new legislation. And when Republicans and Conservatives and
Trump and his administration, when they looked at the meat
of that bill, they were like, uh, yeah, no, we're
not doing this. This is garbage. Oh my gosh. That
means he wants the problem to persist. He's doing it
for political purposes and all of this. No, what we
all knew was that the laws exist already to do
the very things that we are seeing done. And so
the things you're seeing done are the natural response to
your transgressions. So, yes, this is about immigration policy, they say.
The Observer Editorial Board says, Oh, it's no, it's not.
It's about whether the government should use fear and force
to achieve its goals, and it's about what exactly those
goals are. Well, those goals have been laid out pretty explicitly,
which is to arrest illegal immigrants, particularly the ones with
criminal backgrounds. If you're an illegal immigrant that gets in
their way, then you're going to get scooped up too. Oh,
and also we want the people who came here illegally
to leave on their own. That would be the safest
way to do it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: If you don't want all the fear and all of this,
you have a choice. You can go back to your
home country and avoid any of the fear and anxiety. Now,
as to whether the government should use fear and force,
do you know what government is. It is force. That's
what government is. It is an entity to which you
do not have the ability to say no, because that's
at the heart of all force. The use of force
is only required if I say no to you and
you want me to do something, and I keep saying
no and you can't get it or you can't get
me to do it, then you would use force against me.
And what Govco has is the monopoly on force. It
has always been. Thus, see, this is the problem with
your argument. Whether you know these things or not, I
do not know. I cannot tell. I'm just reading your words,
and they betray a profound lack of understanding of what
the core tenet of government is. It is force. It
is a monopoly on force quote unquote legitimate force, the
authority to make you do something, or to stop you
from doing something, or for you to pay right like,
that's it. That's what government does.
Speaker 4: But no, this.
Speaker 1: Is about immigration policy. It's sort of like when they
say it's not about the money, then it's about the money.
And so when the Observer editorial board says it's not
about immigration policy, it's about immigration policy, it is exactly
about the policy that you guys celebrated. You guys wanted
to see proceed. You guys kept pushing this same sort
of dumb assery, and now this is the response because
there isn't any other way. And that's also part of
this as well, talk about policy. This is to make
sure that Trump is not successful in shutting down the border,
which he did without the new legislation. He did that
he enforced the law. Border crossings are like zero now.
And the other component is then to remove the people
that have come in, particularly over the last four years.
And because you let in four million, ten million, I
think it was ten million under Biden, that's a lot
of people. You let in a lot of people, and
unless they leave on their own, there isn't any other
way to do it. Unless, of course, all of this,
all of this editorial, and all of the words being
said and spilled on the print pages of The Observer,
all of the these reports, it's all just we want amnesty.
We want to give amnesty to all of the people
who came in illegally. That's really the game. I suspect
that's the game, and I suspect it has more to
do with the congressional districts and control of the US
House and the electoral College. Now, if you want to
have a discussion about that. I am wide open for it,
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And here's a little segment we do every Friday to
close out the program, to close out the week. There's
a little segment we like to call pregaming with Brett Brettwintertable.
That is, he's on three to six here on WBT
Brett Winterable. How art thou, sir?
Speaker 7: The pleasure is mine?
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 7: Good, I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right?
Speaker 7: You're looking beautifully.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I do appreciate that. So are you?
Have you marked yourself safe on Facebook from the from
border Patrol?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not.
Speaker 1: This is are you freaking out?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: Because I grew up with this. You have to remember
I was on the border right and so I am not.
I'm not fearful of Border Patrol CBP ice. Some of
that is because I have you know, I have the
right to be in the country. But at the same time,
if you just let them do their job, it will
just go so much easier.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 1: It's yes, yes, Wait, So are you saying that I
should not like throw a subway sandwich at their chest,
I should not like key their vehicle, that I should
not try to run them off the road or anything.
Speaker 5: No, no, and and listen, I can I can I
say something that I'm probably going to regret, but I
but I need to say that.
Speaker 1: Then you have to say it.
Speaker 7: Yes, Okay, here we go. Where's all the No Kings people?
Speaker 5: I would think that they would want to be shielding
these people, right, I mean, how come.
Speaker 7: No Kings are?
Speaker 5: They're only out there when it's puffed the magic dragon
and all those sorts of things. You know what, be
a productive person and try to try to try to
affect the change you seek to uh to appear.
Speaker 1: With fling your body at the king.
Speaker 5: No, No, that's wrong, I'm trying to elevate.
Speaker 4: Oh that's no.
Speaker 1: But that is what they are trying to rally. That's
what these local activists are trying to rally people to go.
Do they want a they want to replicate Chicago and Portland? Yeah,
they want that, But nobody, nobody wants to be either
of those places. No, I nobody, no, No, I like,
I think that's a profoundly dumb idea. But these are leftists,
so they are they are animated by something else. For example,
in Portland, have you seen the latest form of protesting
that they took up against the ice facility in Portland.
Speaker 7: I'm a little behind.
Speaker 5: The last one I saw was the people dancing like
weirdly in the street.
Speaker 7: Is that the one you're talking about?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, that was phase two. So Phase one was the
inflatable costoms, Yes, right, I saw that.
Speaker 7: I remember that.
Speaker 1: Phase two was the dance party stuff.
Speaker 7: Okay, I that right.
Speaker 1: Phase three is now jazzer size.
Speaker 7: So they're doing jazzuer sizes like in the street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're getting dressed up in their spandex. Sorry
for that visual, but roughly two dozen self described freedom
fighters gathered outside the Ice facility in Portland's South Waterfront
earlier this week for what they called sweating out the fascists.
Speaker 5: Sweating out Okay, let me tell you that that's a
pretty good job. I wish Rush was here for that,
because do you know what Rush could do with that bit?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: Go ahead, give me the name of it again.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: Sweating out the fascists coming to a town near you?
Speaker 7: Yeah, your answer to TPUSA, I mean I don't know
what is this?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So aerobics is apparently how you defeat the fascism, organized
by a local gym called folkrum fitness, and they claimed
that they were standing up for democracy and due process.
You think it will work, That's why I don't think.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think they're going to do process properly.
It's not gonna work. This is not gonna This is
so bad. But I love it, but I hate it.
But I'm glad it's Importland and it's not here.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think maybe we get some ideas like
I'm curious, like what, and so here's my here's my
actual take on these uh you know, the inflatables and
the dance off and edible Yeah, the well, obviously that's
a part of this. But the the aerobics now is
that these all of these methods only started being used
after what do you remember what happened about maybe a
month ago regarding a lot of these violent protesters. Remember
something happened at it like an executive administration level.
Speaker 7: No, I don't recall this.
Speaker 1: Remember Trump designated them as oh Antifa as terrorist organizations terrists?
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 1: And I suspect that that, along with the you know,
Portland's not a war zone tweets that we keep saying,
like look at me, I'm walking through the park and
there's no you know, there are no Antifa people attacking
folks with hammers. I mean that's on the sidewalk around
the corner. It's not here though. While I'm taking this picture,
and so I think this is their rebrand effort.
Speaker 7: I think, look, it's a smart move.
Speaker 5: And let's be honest here, we could probably get these people,
get the best of these people's you know, animatronics, whatever
they're doing, and what we can do. Why don't we have.
Speaker 7: This become a television program?
Speaker 1: Oh I like it.
Speaker 7: I'll llah you know, Simon Cowell and have and have
like let's.
Speaker 1: See Antifa it's got talent.
Speaker 7: Yes, we got spirit, Yes we do, we got spirit.
Oh no, it's pooh.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Say there's Brett always working in the
poop jokes. No, I'm kidding. So what I'm what I'm
also thinking is next round, Yes, sir, break dancing, broken dancing?
Speaker 4: Mmm?
Speaker 7: You see what I'm saying.
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